3 Years of Seclusion
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How many ministers prepare- the way Paul did, for ministry?
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Sometimes, we may wonder why we do not see the miracles that were in Paul’s ministry.
The usual practice has been to go to seminary for 2 years. Some spend longer in school.
But is this enough?
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Others take a more casual approach, and go into ministry without formal education, and sometimes, with little experience in the Word.
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Some points about Paul’s qualifications:
1. Paul had a rigorous religious education, and as a Jewish male, he had been educated since childhood in the Torah.
Act 22:3 I am verily a man [which am] a Jew, born in Tarsus, [a city] in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, [and] taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day.
Gamaliel the Elder, or Rabbi Gamaliel I, was a leading authority in the Sanhedrin in the mid first century. He was the grandson of the great Jewish teacher Hillel the Elder, and died twenty years before the destruction of the second temple in Jerusalem.
Gamaliel was celebrated as a Pharisee doctor of Jewish Law, who was the teacher of Paul the Apostle. The Book of Acts portrays Gamaliel as a man of great respect.
So Paul was the equivalent of a PhD today, having studied under the most famous Rabbi of his time.
But this was not enough.
2. He was also zealous, but this was not enough either. He was persecuting the saints, thinking he was serving God.
Act 22:4 And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women.
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So, what was he missing?
1. the calling and grace of God. Being called of man is not enough.
2. seclusion from the world -to confer with God, not man.
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called [me] by his grace,
Gal 1:16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood:
Gal 1:17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.
Gal 1:18 ¶ Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.
Gal 1:19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord’s brother.
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The first response Paul had was to get away from people and their ideas.
He went to Arabia, which is nothing but desert, and most likely went to the Mt Sinai site to be alone with God for 3 years.
Only AFTER 3 years of seclusion with God, did Paul even visit Peter for the first time.
Then Paul continued to be a “loner” of sorts.
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What a radical change !!
from a well respected, prosperous, popular temple scholar, to a
withdrawn, secluded hermit who had nothing material, or social, to comfort him. His own rejected him.
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3 years is a long time:
NOT to have friends,
NOT to be taught by teachers,
NOT to hear the thoughts, and ideas of others,
NOT to be comforted
NOT to have the approval of man.
NOT to have the comforts of life.
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This is the opposite of the response to the call of God we see today.
People surround themselves with the very things Paul denied himself of.
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What was the result of this change?
While his former colleagues were described as white sepulchers of dead man’s bones, with all their knowledge, and dead to the true life of of the Spirit
Paul, in his self degraded, humble condition, walked in the power of God.
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Ministry preparation today
There are so many that want to jump from a life of sin into the pulpit, with no real preparation.
These are the worst ministers, and they do exist.
Many attend school first.
Most seminary students love the social atmosphere, and friendship of the school and church.
Most love to be fed weekly by their pastors.
So when they think they are “ready,” they go out into the world of ministry, with the words and thoughts of others about the Word, rather than hearing from God themselves.
And their sermons sound like their school notes.
While study and other experiences are helpful, that is not the end of the preparation.
Even Paul had an education and friends.
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Questions and thoughts
1. What would the church, be like, if all serious students of ministry spent 3 years in seclusion, with God as their only companion and teacher, before going into the world to preach.?
I believe that they would turn the world upside down with the power of God.
I believe we would see no doctrines of man, or fake manifestations of “spirit.” No deception.
I believe we would see humble ministers, and not the pomp and circumstance of false ministers.
So…….
I believe that more students of ministry, and current ministers, should spend more time in seclusion with God.
The proof will be in the power of what comes out of their mouths, and the effectiveness of their ministry.
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2. Have you been in a time of seclusion, where you seem cut off from friends and church family?
Maybe your situation does not look promising at all, yet you have so much inside that needs to be expressed and shared?
Maybe this was not your choosing, but by God’s design.
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3. Or maybe you feel called, but do not know how to start?
Paul was educated first, then called, then went into seclusion.
Consider education first, then time alone.
Make sure God calls you, not man.
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If you are really called of God, you will find this seclusion beautiful and inspiring. However, it might be painful and stressful, as your “flesh” dies.
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If you are NOT really called of God, you will be in a hurry to get a job with a salary, and you will have a mediocre ministry with a congregation that does not expect much anyhow.
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Seclusion is the key to the inspiration, and power of God.



I am posting a comment by Pieter, sent in an email to me:
Seclusion: I have had various stints of seclusion, the first 3-year period was from early 2000 – end 2002. God had taken us aside to a secluded caravan park where there mostly were few or no campers. We lived there for three years and had enough time to really grow silent inside and it was only then that I did learn the value of listening prayer. Those were sobering years in my life and I did learn that even listening to Christian music all day (which I passionately love) can mute His soft inner voice. We had learnt to live in ways our forefathers did, devoid of media, at night it would become completely dark as even street lights were switched off to save power. During furious winter storms, nights would become pitch black. We did have satellite TV in the cabin but never needed it, except when it had rained. However, cloudy weather shielded off the signal so we had no reception.
During these times, either individually or as a family, the four of us would worship God, share His Word, seek His face and generally be focused upon Him only. There were times of seclusion beforehand, years ago after my back operation and the resulting complications, but 2000 signalled in the 3 year period. I can testify that there is no way ever to hear God’s voice amidst the buzz of the average person’s life. God will speak but won’t be heard or fully understood. These seasons of solitude, of which there were many ever since 1986, have become my favourite times. Lasting anywhere between a few weeks to a number of years each, these were the true spiritual growth times. Anyone whom had no had this experience will probably question this or disagree, yet only own experience will reveal the truth. Beforehand, like many other Christians, I also was a critic of this phenomena, yet I have learnt the truth over time.
In a lesser way than Job, I also had suffered terrible loss even when I was serving God, as recently as yesterday I had to see a child walk out of our lives again, on my wife’s birthday, just like three years ago. We haven’t seen her during these years, she was about to meet up with us by next week but she has decided to take the easy way through life and wasn’t prepared to suffer for her faith. Our faith as Christians gets tested, we endure much, that is true all around the world. While we have great difficulty making ends meet, at the very same time we experience His grace and we grow in Him. We see how it profits us to endure and to remain true to Him, as we eventually see how His plans fall into place, albeit slowly.
Looking back upon the immense suffering, the sacrifices made, opportunities missed and even the physical exposure to the elements, prolonged malnutrition and resultant medical problems, we still see His light shine across the bay of life. He had never departed even when our very last friends had opted for a life of convenience and even privilege.
We grew strong, we are being prepared for a specific purpose during the last days and we will need to be seasoned, I always imagine my spirit to be weather beaten like Steve McQueen’s leathery hide. This tenacity and gumption does not grow in the daily hubbub and it certainly only grows when tended to intensively by the Gardener. I would like to encourage anybody to find time for this, even if it would be only for a few days at a time. Right now I am in the middle of such a phase again and I can vouch for the value of building character instead of gaining academical hearsay knowledge.
Growing strong has its disadvantages – we had been asked to leave our weekly cell church as the members felt that we had too much faith. That was in 2005, they were all professional people but also reborn Christians. From an occupational therapist with a post-graduate diploma right up the the one with a PhD in industrial psychology, these were people whom had spent a fair amount of time every week in studying God’s Word, attending formal church and cell church, all being involved in missionary activities, etc. Above average Christians yet they felt that we were too “advanced” for them.
Despite my long standing intimate relationship and solitary life spent with Him, I saw the need of enrolling into a fairly basic Bible study offered by WBS. With Job I can say that my knowledge of God is no hearsay, my eye had seen Him. Solitary confinement, presently a hermit’s life, has its virtues and is of great value. It is because I realise how much more of Him I need, of what great value it is to be in His company, that I seek more time with Him.
Pastors going into ministry without being in the desert as Jesus and Paul did, may very well be the root cause of misguided teachings that abound in churches today. There are simply too many distractions in the life of the theological student, endless activities that will lead him/her to believe that they’re on track, yet they may never have even sampled a true relationship with our Father.
Jesus doesn’t do clubs and malls, I’m not even sure that He always does some churches. He does do dunes and beaches, forests, deserts and high mountains, where there is solitude the Spirit will be whispering truths in the evening breeze…………….
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comment by Pieter, posted by Marianne
“where there is solitude the Spirit will be whispering truths in the evening breeze…………….”
I like that!
I have experienced Seminary studying at Abilene Christian University under the Doctors. I’ve studied under Pastors, served faithfully,Yet I see and feel a need to steal away from the church and Pastors to get a more intimate contact with the MOST HIGH. They seem to not want you to miss a church service due to being a clergy or man of God, yet its the very thing we need to steal away from I feel. I might be wrong or I might not. With wife and 5 children in the home one of which is a grandson, working 11 hours each night as a Security Guard/Housekeeper/Maint person at Solar Hospital Conroe TExas. Being anointed for the office and work God Jesus our Lord has called me, I believe that my father must be taken from over my head like Moses/Joshua,Elijah/Elisha,King Saul/King David,Jesus/the apostles. I see that so far after 15 years since November 20 th 1996 at the 7pm hour of my anointing after being filled with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues… the freedom of the mantel and anointing bestowed upon me hasn’t had the liberty except in moments spurts here and there when the Pastor has left the congregation in his servants hands. I will pray more as I tried 2 1/2 hours each day for a while it almost killed me with my lifesyle not changing no sleep and having diabetes ,high blood pressure ect. Somehow by the grace of God it will all work out for the good. Thank you
The best church my family has had is at home when we worshiped as a family when we couldn’t get a ride or get to the assembly of believers. We’ve experienced some really powerful stuff in our home, and the church seems to take that time away or take away from what…We personally know we as a family can have church at home formally and personally. We are forced out of obligation and duty and a salt covenant with the pastor to keep on where we are, and I don’t feel its been beneficial to us all the time. I might be wrong, but God knows.God forgive me for being so open and honest and candid.I feel I’m being held hostage by a salt covenant.
Dear Rev MArshall
Salt covenants are a device to keep people under them.
God never ordered a salt covenant between people.
A portion of the sacrifice was eaten, so that is why the salt was used. Just like in your kitchen.
It sounds like your 15 year bondage to one person is meant to keep you doing the work, and paying tithes to him, so he can benefit, not you. I bet he gets paid more than you do.
I am also guessing your church is “all about money and prosperity.” Maybe I am wrong there.
Your time is up there, and you do not owe them anything. They owe you for removing 15 years from your life.
Regarding seclusion, Paul and others did this as single men. You have a family (5 children!) You are going to stress out as a married man with financial obligations to care for them.
Use your natural wisdom. There is only so much seclusion possible with a wife and 5 children.
Your home prayer meetings make the best sense for you, and God may be calling you to have home church, starting in small groups.
It is up to you, but I would suggest telling this church with the “bondage covenant” that your season to be there is over, and it is time for you to move on.
God has work for you to do, that is elsewhere, and you need to spend time seeking more direction and details.
As long as you are in that church, you are headed no where.
Since you have work and family, just tell them you need a few hours a week to be alone.
Work out special times with your family, and times away from your family.
You will feel much better.
It is now Aug 6,2011 and I am still with that congregation. I feel a little bit better yet still believe my father must be taken from over my head like I said above in order to walk in the fullness of the anointing on my life and the fullness of the calling of God upon my life. Pray for me.God bless you.
You do not need your father removed for you to serve God. If you do not serve him now, in a humble way, you will not serve him later.
You are too concerned about some “big” position you are to have. Unless you give this idea up, you will not have one.
Ministry is about God, not us, and our ambitions.
I think this is one of your best posts, Marianne. This is real connection with God. In my experience, the times I learned and grew in the Lord most were when I was alone without friends or activities and I’m not talking a day or a week, but a year or several months if not that long. I thought of Lamentations 3:28 “Let him sit alone in silence, for the LORD has laid it on him.”
Mel
hi Mel
Thank you for the sweet compliment. To God be the glory, since such thoughts come from him. He is letting us know he wants us to spent time with him. Such a loving God.!
If you are in a church ,and you go there feeling all bad ,you are not doing yourself and God any favors, you need to be where you can praise him best… where ever. praise him with a happy heart, lots of churches are just a place to socialize,and catch up on gossip…lots are just pure entertainment… what they can do to bring in the masses…Worship is between you and the Great I am…
I like this. I’ve had some seclusion too…too long to give in detail.
I came back to the desert, where I live now, knowing it to be a better place than the “civilization” where I just lived for 9 months. I have no real church affiliation, but I keep trying churches to see if I can find one which seems to be on God’s wave length the most. I don’t expect a perfect church. I can’t go into some churches because I have
a metabolic disturbance (Porphyria) which makes me sensitive to new rug, new carpentry (unless pure wood or metal) carpet cleaner, new paint, plug ins such as are used in bathrooms. And churches here
in our desert town are prone to use these things, so sometimes I can go to church until one of these problems inevitably arises and throws me out the door. This has gone on for decades. I cry over it, but
the seclusion it has brought (relative not absolute) has been a teaching time. And finding teaching on line has been a part of this
training.
I feel the Lord will soon come and I will be well from my affliction and so will others who follow Him.
I am more secluded since my husband died two years ago, but I have
grandchildren to see and help here, so I am not really devoid of human love.
Hi Rev Marshall
Home is the best church – agreed! May God answer your prayers and may you go forth and touch even more lives, or perhaps you are to reach just ONE person – even that would be 100% success.
HI, WE NEVER SIGNED A SALT COVENANT , BUT WE DID JOIN A LARGE CHURDH IN A LARGE TEXAS CITY THAT HAD ONE IN THE CHURCH WE ATTENDED.WE WERE HAPPY THERE FOR A WHILE BUT IN ABOUT 4 YEARS WE DID BEGAN TO SEE A HEAVY WEIGHT THERE OF OBLIGATIONS IN MANY AREAS FELT BY OUR FRIENDS WHO HAD SIGNED. WE WERE RETIRED SO WE DECIDED TO MOVE AND GO TO A MUCH SMALLER TOWN . THE STRESS LEFT AND THE PEACE CAME BACK. HOWEVER WE DID NOT JOIN ANY CHURCH BUT DO VISIT AND HAVE OUR PRAYER , BIBLE STUDY AND HOME COMMUNION EVERY DAY WHEN POSSIBLE ALONG WITH THE GOING TO VISIT A CHURCH ON SUNDAY AS MY HUSBAND WAS IN GREAT PAIN FROM BAD KNEES AND COULD NOT SIT THRU A SERVICE WITHOUT SUFFERING . WE OFTEN FOUND WE HAD TO STAY AT HOME AND DID FIND THE SOLITUDE AND WORSHIP AT HOME ESTABLISHED A STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR HEAVENLY FATHER GOD. MY HUSBAND HAS SINCE HAD A KNEE OPERTATION. PRAISE THE LORD HE IS NOW MUCH BETTER. WE WILL HOWEVER NOT GIVE UP OUR HOME WORSHIP AND WHEN HE GETS ABLE TO BE UP AND ABOUT AGAIN WILL VISIT THE CHURCH WE VISIT WHEN WE CAN. THEY HAVE NEVER PRESSURED US TO JOIN.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL, I PRAY THAT THOSE WHO ARE IN A STRUGGLE ABOUT THE SALT COV. THING WILL HEAR FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT HIMSELF ON THIS SUBJECT AND LEAD YOU, INCLUDING PASTORS INTO THE TRUTH ABOUT THE MATTER AND PEACE. IN JESUS CHRIST YESHUA HA MASHIACH’S NAME I PRAY. AMEN . THANK YOU LORD FOR HEARING MY PRAYER FOR ALL THOSE WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH THE SALT COVENANT ISSUE. ALL GLORY , HONOR AND PRAISE BE UNTO YOU FOR EVER AND EVER AMEN
God bless you Nhel. You always have something positive to contribute.
does Pieter have a website address, people can read more of his messages ?
thanks
dear guest
This is all I am aware of
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2361831622#!/group.php?gid=121682147857525
http://www.facebook.com/?sk=2361831622#!/group.php?gid=148647208499863
If you send me your email address, I can forward it to him. And then he can put you on his email list.
hi Marianne,
3 Years of Seclusion is a great post ! the pictures are great !
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Christ was always intended to be the First Love (Rev. 2:4). He always intended to be the Shepherd of our souls through real deal leaders such as Paul who directs the baby sheep to the True Shepherd (Jer 3:15 And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding. ) But each man is without excuse who fails to ‘seek’ the Shepherd who is inately imprinted in the heart (Ro 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath showed it unto them 20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:). Jesus was meticulous concerning the ‘calling’ in His conversation/calling of Peter. .Joh 21:17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? ……… Feed my sheep.’
God is no more pleased with false shepherds than He is with false ‘sheep.’
Jer 10:21 For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered
Jer 12:10 Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.
Jer 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
Jer 23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
INTENDED OUTCOME OF ‘SHEPHERD/SHEEP:
Ps 23:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. 4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.
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I love the way you shared this. I sense His peace in you.
This is a great post.
When I asked Christ into my life back in 1982, it was an act of desperation–I wanted to blow my brains out. My first four years of being a Christian, I didn’t go to any church (once in a while I would visit a monastery)–I prayed a lot, was alone with God in my spare time and I read the classics in Christian spirituality.
Being alone with God separates the wheat from the chaff. Before his conversion, Paul probably said that he had his PhD and studied under some great teachers; as a Christian, Paul probably said that the Scriptures were engrafted into his spirit and that he was a bond-slave of Christ. Do we want worldly credentials or do we want the Lord God Almighty in our lives?
The man of God is made in the prayer closet. The desert of being alone with God really makes the worthless things in our lives die out. The individual who is truly dead to self IS a very powerful sermon.
“The Kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.”
Beautiful testimony !
Wow. I had a severe demonic experince and was delivered at age 33. I am 36 now, and the Lord has led me into a life of seclusion so much that I wear earplugs to drown out any other noise that can be distracting to my thoughts and prayers going up to Him.
This is very interesting to read. During my time of seclusion, the Lord told me to write a book of my experience to help others.
Reading this gave me chills as I realized that without formal training, the Lord was teaching me to abide in Him and Him alone.
Thank you for this article.
I would love to link your site with mine:
http://www.shalombewithyou.com
hello shalombewithyou
It is good to hear you are on this path, and I pray that it blesses you greatly. I will look at your site. May the Lord keep you in His presence, provision, and protection in the times ahead.
Hi Marianne
I have just finished reading your book and it was great, it encouraged me no end. I too have been in seclusion for the last 3yrs. I was going to Uni and working and struggling bigtime, I was miserable and as I was crying out to God about what I was going to do. He asked me what it was that I wanted, to write down the things I wanted for my life. Then He said the thing that I focus on I will become, what was the most important thing that I wanted for my life. The answer was easy I wanted Him, to know Him above all else. I quit uni, resigned from my job and my life has been about my grandson, my family and most of all Him. It has been most humbling as people want to know what I am doing and of course to them I am doing nothing. I have joy, peace and I know that I am in His will.
I havent had those spiritual experiences you have had Marianne but I do desire them. He has allowed me to do some volunteering with a charity that feeds the homeless here. I think I am the only christian and we are not allowed to preach even though we say a prayer before we go out and when we come back. I pray for the homeless and the volunteers. I know when it is time God will give me the opportunities to speak to these ones individually. I am so no where near where I want to be in God and I do struggle a lot with myself and not seeing the spiritual manifestations in my life. My walk with the Lord is one of faith, no visions, voices, fragrances or dreams. I spend a lot of time alone, my friends have dwindled away as i don’t do the things I used to do. I am even too much for my christian friends. It is difficult at times as I love to talk about the Lord with fellow believers but they are very few that I do. I had a real revelation a couple of years ago about being His bride and I want to make sure that I am made ready. I don’t always know why I do what I do but I know it is God because I don’t always want to do it, it isn’t gratifying to my flesh.
My hope is in my Lord that He will perfect that which concerns me and He will show forth His glory in my life. That is the cry of my heart to glorify Him with my life.
Blessings Dianne
hi Dianne
It is such a blessing to me to hear you read the book and liked it.
Each of us has a special place with God, and each of us has a specially divinely prepared plan God has made for us.
The experiences that I had were meant for a short period of time, to accomplish God’s purpose. My life is quieter now. My life was quieter before as well.
As you say, once God calls you as his own, you have trouble fitting in with others. So you see, it is wisdom for God to limit supernatural experiences, because one function we all have is to witness to others. If we are too far set apart, we would not be able to relate to anyone and fulfill this function.
We are coming into a very dangerous period, where our faith and the faith of others will be tested. There is the church, and then there is the Bride.
The church is operating right now, but soon, only the Bride will be at work, because the church will fail.
The light shines greatest in the darkest room.
So, the dark time ahead is when we will shine the most, if we are obedient.
It will be then that the supernatural will open to us, to equip us to give our testimony, and to spread the gospel for the last time before the gates close on humanity, and the Antichrist takes over.
This current waiting period may seem dry to the Bride, but she will be overflowing soon with the everlasting waters, pouring out to the world, in a last effort before the first trumpet of judgment blows.