Antichrist – who is he? – the secret is in the “mix”

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The Antichrist is a fierce end time ruler that leads a Beastly kingdom to control the world, and crush Israel. There are conflicting views about who he is, and what and where the beast is. So what do I say? The secret is in the “mix.”

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Symbolic images of the Beast, that supports the Antichrist:
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
The animals that represent the beast are defined by Daniel:
DAN 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.
DAN 7:5 And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
DAN 7:6 After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.
Summary, so far:
The main body is that of a leopard: this is the revived Grecian empire, which is today the Islamic middle eastern and eastern countries
The feet are that of a bear – this represents the Medo-Persians – today this is Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Jordan, Russia (south), Georgia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Ubekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan (?), Tajikistan, so the part that “moves” will be this part.
The mouth is that of a winged lion – this represents Babylon, ie Iraq, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Georgia, Jordan, Azerbaijan, Armenia (12). The hate speech and condemnation comes from here.
Notice above that almost the same countries are involved for each animal.
Daniel also adds a little more insight about the makeup. The beast is a kingdom, not a person. The antichrist is the head part of this beast. The beast has 10 horns, iron teeth and nails of brass:
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
DAN 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
DAN 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

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Integrating this with Nebuchadnezzar’s statue in Daniel 2 – the secret is in the “MIX”:
Babylon (Head of Gold); Medo-Persia (Arms & Chest of Silver; Greece (Thighs (from knee to hip) and Belly of Bronze); Rome (Legs of Iron); and future “Rome” mixed with other nations (Feet of Iron & Clay).
This is where some think that the last kingdom is Roman, and not Grecian. But look at this closer.
*** We should see that this kingdom is not European, or purely Roman. If we look today, Europe does not like to fight, even in the war against terrorism, which affects its own safety. Such a passive region is not the belligerent entity, the 4th Beast.
I admit this part is confusing, but we have to look at all scriptures before we form a conclusion. We have to remember that the maps of the ancient Roman (teeth of iron) and Grecian (nails of brass) territories overlap, to some extent, so this is a mixed kingdom with a new identity. The 2 legs represents 2 of the 4 divisions (legs) of the Grecian territory (which also happens to overlap with Roman land): East (Syria, king of the “North”) and South (Ptolemy/ Egypt, king of the South). This is explained in Daniel 8:21-22, with the vision of the goat and the ram.
I believe the Antichrist comes from the empire of Seleucus II Callinicus, son of the former king of the North (Antiochus II Theos) and the daughter of the King of the South (Ptolemy II Philadelphius). Antiochus IV Epiphanes, a descendant of Seleucus, is the one who performed the first abomination of the Temple in Jerusalem. I would not be surprised if the Antichrist came from this lineage.
*** This is a mixing of North and South. There was another mixing later when Cleopatra (South, Egypt) married the Syrian Ptolemy V Epiphanes (North).
We then have to take the rest of Daniel to see how mixed it is, and who is in it. In Aramaic, the translated word for “mix” is “ARAB.”
A more extensive explanation is given here:
http://www.bibleprophecyinthenews.com/Daniel_27s_20Scope_20of_20Prophecy_20does_20NOT_20include_20Rome_.pdf
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The antichrist’s relationship with the saints: he is their enemy
1. He persecutes them
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak [great] words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.
2. he destroys them
Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
3. he destroys their city and sanctuary
Dan 9:26 ….and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
4. He forms an alliance with others that allows him to desecrate the temple, and divide the land. There is no mention of a covenant of peace with Israel here, where the rights of the Jews or the sanctity of the Temple is respected.
Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.
5. He is at war with the saints. He overcomes them.
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nation
There is no evidence that he forms a peace treaty with Israel, only with others who will support him against Israel. Click here for more
Other descriptions of the Antichrist:
1. He is an egomaniac. Commits blasphemy, and prospers until wrath is complete. (Daniel 12:36)
2. He regards not the god of his fathers (Daniel 12:37-38), he honors the god of fortresses, and a god which his fathers did not know, he shall honor with gold and silver….this means either:
a. he is an atheist, but worships money
b. he is a convert from another religion
c. his parents come from different religions, and he uses the religion of his mother.
d. religious, but his religion is different from ancestors ( pagan or religious)
e. he is into worshipping aliens, which is not too unrealistic, since UFOs are being seen quite frequently now
f. he practices witchcraft
g. he is his own god
3. He shall not regard the desire of women (Daniel 12:37), this means either:
a. he is homosexual
b. he is so obsessed with power, he ignores the women he has.
c. he is heterosexual, but does not care about women, or what they desire, so he abuses them
4. His behavior is a repeat of his earlier forerunner Antiochus, and it seems to be history (Dan 11) repeating itself. The clue that it is a new event, as well as history, is that Jacob’s trouble, which occurs in the “time of the end” follows immediately in the next Chapter (Dan 12),. So, if we look at the history, and then look at modern events, we will find similarities which will help identify the Antichrist.
5. He has issues with both the king of the North (Syria) and the king of the South (Egypt), although he is from the North (Selucid empire). (Daniel 11) This may be why he has to forge a “covenant with many,” in Daniel 7, since he tends to upset other countries.
6. The beast he belongs to has 7 heads and 10 horns, and one of the heads is wounded, but gets healed. (Rev 13 1-3).
I wonder if this wounded head is Iraq, or Afghanistan. The terrorism has been wounded there, but may heal, and go back to terror, when the USA and the Coalition forces leave.
7. He is called an Assyrian
Isa 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed his WHOLE WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria , and the glory of his high looks.
Isa 14:25 That I will break the Assyrian in MY land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.
8. His Location
But remember he is also from the northern portion of the Seleucid empire (Daniel 11), which overlaps the Assyrian region
………….Assyria…………………………………Seleucid……………….

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So, the composite, restricted area, where the antichrist himself would come from, would be between the 2 blue lines on this map in the Seleucid portion:

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According to Daniel 8:9 the Antichrist, also called the “little horn,” comes from his location to attack Israel.
Dan 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed (grew) exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant [land].
Since he is moving or growing south-east “toward” Israel, he must be coming from the northwest of Israel. The only one I see northwest of Israel is Turkey. Am I reading this correctly? Even the country of Turkey looks like a head on a beast, and it is the only nation with a “horn.” There is an area on the “head” of the Turkey map that is called the “Golden Horn.” If I am wrong here, then it is the opposite logic.
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The 7 heads (?):
From the combination map- within the blue lines: Syria, east Turkey, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, or Iran, Kuwait. (7 heads)
So what about the 10 horns?
From the Selucid map: Syria, east Turkey, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Kuwait, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan. (10) ….if I am reading the map correctly.
· Jordan seems to be exempt. Daniel 11:41 says that Edom, Moab, and the people of Ammon escape from his (Antichrist’s – the “Assyrian’s”) hand.
Conclusion:
The Antichrist, according to scripture, is a leader from one of the modern Islamic Arab countries of the revived, ancient, Seleucid (Grecian-Roman) empire, with a following from the surrounding nations, that is forged through a multi-nation alliance (covenant) against Israel. He will be defeated by Jesus at the battle of Armageddon.
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See also:
What kind of covenant will the Antichrist really confirm? Click here for more
The 7 year End Time Covenant in Days and Years Click here for more.
The Goat and the 2300 Days. Click here for more
Jewish Return to Israel in the last days. Click here for more
General files for Antichrist: Click here for more


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Hi Marianne,
The book “Days of Vengeance” by David Chilton (out of print, but free to read on the internet) is the most fascinating book I’ve ever read about Revelation. He explains it in a way that it all makes sense, and all is quite easy to understand. If it is “revelation” (not “confusion”), then we ought to understand it perfectly well.
It’s worth a look!
God bless,
Paul
Thanks Paul,
I will try to look for this book.
blessings
marianne
Hi!
i found a link, here it is…looks really interesting, & I really enjoyed your article, Marianne!
http://freebooks.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/2226_47e.htm
Here’s another link…
http://www.preteristarchive.com/Books/1987_chilton_days-of-vengeance.html
Sorry to be a pest, but found this interesting, too…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Chilton
Ok, now I’m likely bugging you, but I just had to post again, feel free to delete my links posted, above, if you’re so led…he’s a preterist (is that the right term? Believes the prophesies in the book of Revelation has been fulfilled)…
…sorry ’bout that…
~Anastazia~
(again)
What do you make of the fact that the statue’s feet in Nebeccanezzars dream, made of iron and clay, would NOT mix? What does this mean? Have a great rest of the week!
Daniel 2:42-43
“And as the toes of the feet were partly of iron and partly of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong and partly fragile.
As you saw iron mixed with ceramic clay, they will mingle with the seed of men; but they will not adhere to one another, just as iron does not mix with clay.”
Hi Catrina,
Just a thought:
If “THEY” will mingle with the “seed of men (human),” then “THEY” cannot be human?
blessings
marianne
hi Anastazia,
You are not bugging me.
Post all you want.
Yes, I have had that book recommended by someone else as well. He sounds like a good author, and since the book is free, we should all take a look at it. Thanks for the links.
blessings
marianne
Hey Marianne,
This is David…..Catrina’s hubby..Anyhow I need help. I recently went to the local zoo and was shocked to see several Buddha statues. I made a complaint and they are currently taking a vote from KMBC News and the local papper whether or not it should be removed. To my understanding God does nike like Idols of any sort exspecially of
Eastern religions. Anyhow can you please vote on both sites and sent this to who ever else you know will vote a Godly vote…Here are the 2 links
God said not to make any idols over and over again in the Bible. He said to make No images of heaven above or earth below. Vote to remove the Buddha statues from the KCMO ZOO and maybe you can leave a comment in my defense. THANKS David Engle
http://www.kmbc.com/news/18479668/detail.html
http://www.kansascity.com/637/story/979947.html?pageNum=2&mi_pluck_action=page_nav#Comments_Container
Please get everyone you can to vote to remove the Buddha statues at the Kansas City Zoo.. The anti-Christ is in full effect as you can see in most of the comments left on these pages slander me..help me out…We need all the Godly votes we can get before this goes to the board for a vote..
David
Posted this in a couple spots around your site for more exposure- Thanks Marianne!!!
As always Marianne, great study and research.
David from Kansas City (I went to kmbc news site and voted against Buddha statues at the Zoo). I agree.
Brother In Christ…David (Shalom)
Sections called Daniel 2:43 and Genesis 6:4 and Matthew 24:36-39. I would like to learn more about them perhaps.
Hi Jacob,
The verses you mention refer to the Nephilium that were the result of demons mating with women in ancient times. Demons have always been around since before man was created. Many of them were destroyed in Noah’s flood, but their disembodied spirits continue on to influence people.
The passage from Daniel also refers to the “Mixing.” If you look up the aramaic word for “mix,” the translated word is “arab.”
blessings
marianne
Are nephilim not offspring of angels and women? I wonder if Greeks helped pervert history and wonder if Hercules is a nephil perhaps… perhaps we live on an interesting planet at an interesting time.
Hi Jacob,
Yes, you are right that they are offspring, and yes, this might be the source of much traditional “mythology.”
I sincerely think there is some very sick stuff on this earth at this time. No, I cannot prove it physically, but from the behavior of some groups, it is not hard to imagine.
blessings
marianne
and He will be cast into the lake which burn with fire forever and ever. AMEN!
Hey Kwazy,
That is what I like about you – short and sweet! AMEN to you too!
blessings
marianne
Thanks.
. I’m glad you don’t make yours short like mine. lol
I just finished reading Dr. David Jeremiah’s new book entitled
“What in the World is Going On? He talks extensively about the image mentioned in the book of Daniel. He also gives his take on the feet of clay/iron.
I would recommend taking a look at this book.
Hi Noreen,
Thanks for the recommendation. Dr.Jeremiah is a good teacher.
blessings
marianne
I think the fourth Beast is America. All immigrants who come to gather in here, to escape thier countries, are not really here to escape but to be placed for that moment when the trumpet sounds, they will rise and turn agianst the nations who took them in. This is a Judas spirit.. all those countries such as Iraq, Islam you name it, it has extended to America.. and so on..will turn on us..some children are allowed to bring swords to schools..I think it is a matter of time when those teeth of Iron will cut people up into pieces..Beheadings. These threats are echoing through as of today..Even now Obama being president, who is to say…he isn’t part of it..but thats just a theory…no need to take me seriously..
Oh and the word ( Mix ) on your topic..it is mixing people all together and different beliefs…I think in these days, spirits are awakened..by all kinds of chantings..people are more demonized today than ever before. Mixing ingredients can become deadly if you do not know whats in the mix…even in churches today, there are some witches, and warlocks, some are dragons having power over believers. In christ name, so ministers need to watch and pray at all times. This Dragon can control them. They are like snakes, and like reptiles, and they can transform into human beings. Some have healing powers, that only last a ew months and the healings have to be repeated..SO whats happening now is they are only stealing your energy, and you will feel bitter to Christ. But with a battle one can overcome it…I think…so its like mixing nations together..sooner or later they will develope hate causeing a dark energy to form..that is why so many churches fight agianst each other..cause each wants to be right all the time. No one accepts christ really if that is what they are doing. Always fighting over God, so we all do not have the same God if there is a war always on his behalf..this is why churches are weak..cause is bring that darkness into the church and many get sick, and not only that it is a place of demons now…mixing) I for myself do not trust the church no more…nor mankind. I think this world is hell..now..
because man ruined it for all…by connecting the spider web to all the world and mixing all ingredents together. Now they are saying Jesus is the anti christ, look what people made him out to look like. Blond, blue eyed holly wood jesus. I feel so sorry for him. I really do..He deserves mercy and not sacrifice…
People boast about knowing him all day long, and they make up an image of what he should look like. I know many follow him. I know he is truth, but that does not make man truth…
I think God just wants true repentance, and does not want man living this life of paying bills, going to work for money, having big houses, stealing from the poor, taking the land for themselves and not allowing a poor man to sleep on any grounds that God made for man in the first place to rest his head and ejoy nature. Man takes Land and sells it, he has no room for a poor man to rest his head. No wonder the beast is here, man has created his image in thier minds causeing it to become real…
Hi Brandy
Good insight. You brought up spiritual and cultural mixings.
blessings
marianne
Your comment at the end of point 5, that there is no mention of a peace covenant with Israel, is not accurate. As the scriptures describe Israel as living “without walls” (i.e. in safety) as well as the fact that the whole Heathen world calls out “peace and safety” (1.Thess.5;1-4)as a result of this peace that comes about by “the covenant” of Dan.9:27, But then comes “sudden destruction” for them, at Armageddon
Likewise, your comment under your title, “other descriptions of the Antichrist”, and in point #2, where you quote, “He regards not the God of His Fathers” ( in Dan. 11:37-38, but misquoted as Dan.12;37…etc.) Ommits the fact in your points “A-to-G”, that the term “His Fathers” indicates that He is a descendant of Abraham, i.e. He is Jewish !!!
The Bible is clear that the Antichris will be an “Assyrian Jew”, rising up from the small nation of Lebanon, which in the near future will be annexed by Syria, which will rise to prominence, and become the ruling power of the revived Grecian empire, as prophesied in the scriptures. (all of which refutes the “Revived Roman Empire” theory, falsely propagated by modern theology.)
Visit my website, and get a copy of my book, “None Dare Call It Deception” and you can read all about it. I am the only author to have correctly predicted the “bosnian conflict” and the political fall of Russia, 5 and 6 years before it happened in a copyrighted work (1984).
Morgan Sorensen
Hi Morgan,
I agree with you that it is not the revived roman empire. I am not sure about the Jewish Antichrist idea, since Abraham is the father of the Arabs too. I do agree that he will be Assyrian.
It sounds like you have valuable information on your site. I hope many visit there and benefit from your insights.
blessings
marianne
Hi Marine, Greeetings.
I stand to be corrected and please help me here if I am wrong. You stated that “Abraham is the father of the Arabs too” Now, Ishmael might be a son of Abraham, but not ‘the’ son of Abraham. In Genesis 17, when God renewed the covenant with Abraham, God did not mentioned anything about Ishmael being blessed…Abraham is the one who insisted upon God giving a blessing to Ishmael. God said I have blessed him too, but the promise is unto Isaac. In God’s original plan, there was never an Ishmael, disobedient and fear (lack of faith) caused this. Abraham is the father of all those who accepts the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, which extends to the church today. So it is quite possible that the anti-christ will rise from that region. Another thing is, why I believe that the anti-christ will be Jewish is that the Jews will not accept an outsider someone not from their culture and beliefs. For they to be misled, the anti-christ will have to practice Jewish laws and know their culture and everything. Jews do not accept outsiders and far more to be led by them. I don’t think so. Another is when the anti-christ will profane the temple of God. He cannot do that if he had no access to it in the first place. I strongly believe it will be a Jew.
Love, be bless.
Charmaine.
Hi Charmaine
I agree. I meant only that the Arabs are physical descendants of Ishmael, who was a physical son of Abraham. They do not inherit the promises, but God was merciful enough to bless them.
The bible indicates that the Antichrist will be Assyrian. However, Jews do live everywhere. Also, consider that Israel is FORCED into peace agreements.
They do not voluntarily give up land for peace, and submit to terrorist demands. They are forced politically, in order to keep receiving aid from the US.
The bible never said they would be WILLING to submit to any Antichrist, only that there would be a covenant that is broken. Covenants with terrorists have always been broken by the terrorists.
Have you heard that Amadinejad is Jewish? He gets along very well with anti-zionist Jews who also hate Israel.
Thanks Marianne. I do not mean to oppose you, I just want to bring about a correct understanding. I am a missionary, in ministry over 40 years now. I have lived in South Africa for many years, and am married to an “Afrikaans” lady. I reside at present south of Nashville,Tennessee, USA.
Where are you located Marianne ? I find your site interresting.
“Siener” Van Rensburg was a very God fearing Man, and those of us who believe in God and his providence, understand the importance of this prophet’s work.
By the way, I left you a “strong worded” comment on your post , “Zionism-jewish betrayel”. So please excuse that, but I felt I needed to “Shock you” into reality. ( I think you have possibly bought into the “Zionist’s” propaganda machine) so go back and recheck your facts. I shall Take time over the next few weeks to peruse your site.
Regards,
Morgan Sorensen
Hi Morgan,
It is ok to oppose me. Disagreement can make people think harder.
Debate is not uncommon on my site. I have Christians with different ideas, Muslims, Atheists,etc here.
I am in NC. Do you know any of the Church of God group in Cleveland?
I recognize your name. I do a lot of reading on the internet. Maybe it is from there?
South Africa has been through so much heartache. I hope all goes well there from now on with the Christians.
blessings
marianne
understand that your brother is one in Christ, as you know not every one is your brother, or your sister, thy get that title through being saved through Christ. we become brothers and sisters in Christ, I am not judging, to judge. I am pointing out the things that are not right with him, I could say the evil one, but also would be judging him. or can turn your back and let him destroy, and lead people to hell. yes we the people have a choose, to fellow him, or not. but if people are a sleep and not a ware of him, then thy are a doomed to hell. if we can just get people, to think with a little seed, thy can seek out the truth .on there own, its just like jests you tell them about him thy make the choose seek to follow or back away its got to be up to them Jesus kept trying over and over it was his wish that no man be lost I fill its obama
HI Flybird,
The only judging we are not to do is by hypocrisy, when we criticize others for the same sin we have. WE are entitled to righteous judgment. This is necessary for our survival, to properly evaluate a situation for the sake of our own safety. We have to be able to judge that someone is dangerous, so we can stay away from him, and not be hurt.
This world is full of Antichrist personalities now. World leaders have left God. So, it is important to use wisdom when having to deal with any of them. The truth, like you say, should be obvious to anyone who is in Christ, and has the Holy Spirit to guide them.
blessings
marianne
I wanted to point out something before I post what I wrote I said it before I fill its obama I know I maybe wrong
don’t recall the color of obama? never said his color I due not judge the book by its cover only by his actions.
If you choose to set and what to see fill free to due that thats are choose are god given right to express it
when Noah was building the ark people laugh thy didn’t get rain no that just doesn’t happen
Then he started to take pairs of animals on board then thy got on thy closed the doors
it started to rain Those people had all the chances in the world to turn and due right thy choose not to
it was to late know we have a choose to make we can say he’s black won’t give him a chance or we can say he fits a lot of the ways and yes it might be judging but if your right we may have saved a few which we are told to due if were wrong then we can and will be forgiven be cause we are watching and looking as god commanded us to due
agree we should seat back, and watch, listen, learn, all we can. I am sure every one here no’s what to watch and listen for.
We all no obama is no God we won’t fellow him but yet we due.
We know not to believe him but we due.
We know not to trust him we due.
We know not to follow him but we due.
We know not to make him are god but we due.
We are totaly blind when it comes to him We can not see there will be toughs that won’t see.
We are told not to be asleep we are to be alert to watch to listen and not to follow
OUR WE WILL BE LOST SOUL’S
theres some kind of chip that comes out in June it was sub post to come out last year but was moved up to this year.
Were you couldn’t go in court house or any thing like that with out this chip or even work in thoughs places.
But this is not the mark the way I understand it but fill its a step forward to it
I think a question we need to ask are self is how far are we willing to go?
What if the time comes were you can’t by food,gas,get your paycheck,pay your bills or due any thing with out that mark?
The rapture isn’t came yet or we missed it ? then what?
will you stand for Christ? die for Christ? will you tell the ones that want to put you to death for beleaving in your god that you will not deny him? you will not take the chip.
Once that mark is taken its over. YOUR A LOST SOUL
the choose we must make needs to be now we don’t know what tomorrow will bring we could have a accident be killed we could be attacked at any moment. LAUGH THATS RIGHT DID WE NO WHEN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER WAS GOING TO BE TAKEN OUT? “no”
Hi flybird, The mark will not be forced upon us, nor will we be tricked into accepting it. People will accept it willingly.
Here are some of my thought on the mark of the beast.
If in fact it is an implanted chip, it could be removed or stolen if a person is killed or wounded. Or it could tamper proof by detonation.
I personally believe it will be a physical mark. Whether administered by the government of the world or in local tattoo shops, the mark is purely a show of obedience or acceptance of the beast! You are correct, once you accept it your soul is doomed, no turning back!
Chris
Saudi files for ‘killer’ tracking chip patent.
http://www.thelocal.de/sci-tech/20090515-19313.html
Another giant step to control people!
Here is an interesting conclusive video
excellent contribution.
Marianne;
Someone sent me this video:
Jesus gave us the Name of the Anti-Christ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXMAnlMmEPw
I’ve been studying that on-line book I got from your web site:
http://www.rapturesolution.com/
There are so many questions people are asking out there. It’s very confusing and I wanted to be solid ground. It’a puzzle; Daniel, Matthew 24, Theasolonians and the Book of Revelelation.
He writes at the beginning of this book:
“How do you explain the different beliefs? Here’s his over-simplified analysis of the situation. Christians and their beliefs about the end times fall into three general categories: 10 Many Christians believe that christ will return before the tribulation because they believe what good bible teachers have told them, not through personal knowledge of the bible, 2) Other Christians who have studied the Bible more see some problems and have come to believe that we will go through the tribulation before Christ returns, and 30 Christians who study the bible deeper yet discover a wonderful harmony in the Bible and thank god that believers will not go through the tribulation after all.” ” He states: If your Bibl study has mad you question pre-trib beliefs, then he’s glad. Glad because you’re in the Bible”
I’ve been getting exposed to other beliefs and I was starting to question the Pre-trib stance. He has great time lines in this book on line. He gives all the arguments too of the different stances: Pre, Mid, Post trib.
From what I have learned so far we can start counting and know the day Christ returns when the abomintion of desolation is committed if we’re still here: In the midst of the week begins the three and one half year countdown. He gives a lot of good diagrams and time lines: 3 1/2 years = 42 months=1260 days So we have to have a “Temple”. So the question is: Are we still here to see this? I don’t believe so, but I’ve just started on this study. I highly recommend it for those of you who have a lot of questions.
Thses videos bother me, because people start looking at us as foolish when our prediction don’t turn out. But then they get you studying too!
Dig in!
Kittii
Someone also sent me this:
“Rather than focusing on when Jesus is coming back, we should focus on what we are to be going as we wait for his return” Makes a lot of sense. Anticipating his return is a refining fire. It keeps you alert!
hi Kitti
The source of the confusion is the TRADITION that someone started…..that the tribulation is 7 years.
Jesus never says this, the bible never says this.
the 7 years comes from Daniels’ last week.
The tribulation, or Jacob’s trouble is only 3 1/2 years, or 42 months. Jesus said he would return after this time.
the rapture is not the return of Jesus…..because we are caught up in the air to meet him in the clouds….he does not come back to earth yet
jesus only returns to earth once…and that is after the 42 months.
the conflict originates in the definitions of “tribulation”…if the definitions are clear, Jesus only comes once, and that is after the 42 months.
the entire 70th week is a different discussion.