Bible Answers for Martin Sheen

 

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Martin Sheen, an actor, playing the role of a President in the TV show “West Wing,” is not an expert in psychology, or biblical studies…but challenges a “defenseless, weak Christian,” showing his “power” as a “knowledgeable skeptic.”

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Credit for bring this up:

Lyndsey

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To Mr. Sheen and his producers:

As Jesus would say, “you err because you do not know the scriptures.”

If you understand the meaning of the scriptures you try to refer to, you would appreciate the truth of them, instead of misquoting them, and mocking them in ignorance.

But it takes the presence of the Holy Spirit to properly discern the truth, and apply the scriptures properly.

Since you do not have the Holy Spirit in your lives, you will continue to have this problem, or will need to rely on people who do.

We all have free will to think what we want.

I hope you find these answers helpful. I will be more than happy to discuss any other scriptures as well.

I will go through each of the stated mocked scriptures. A real Christian will study scripture, and show himself approved before princes and kings, when questioned.

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1. homosexuality is a sin according to the bible. Yes it is, and God is not changing his mind, for anyone. It means just what it says.

Lev 18:22   Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

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2. Exodus 21:7 What is the price for selling daughter into slavery?

This passage does not say this. There is no price.

This passage is about servant hood of Hebrews to Hebrews, usually for the resolution of debts- not slavery.

They serve for 6 years to pay off the debt, then they go free, unless they choose to say, out of love for their master.

“Buying” of Hebrew servants- we would say hiring, or working to pay off a debt.

Exd 21:2   If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.

Exd 21:3   If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.

If he is given a wife by the master, she and the family remain if he leaves.

Exd 21:4   If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master’s, and he shall go out by himself.

The choice to stay with master

Exd 21:5   And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:

Exd 21:6   Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

A daughter is given to be a maidservant for the purpose of marriage – if he does not like her, then she is free, and it is forbidden to make her a slave, contrary to what Martin Sheen said.

He must instead provide for her anyhow. If she leaves, then she is provided for. This is to protect her honor as well.

Exd 21:7 ¶ And if a man sell [normally called a dowry] his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

Exd 21:8   If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

Exd 21:9   And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

Exd 21:10 If he take him another [wife]; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

Exd 21:11   And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.

For the President, Martin Sheen, since his daughter has been sent to the best schools, I hope she has gotten a good job, and never finds herself in debt.   If she is appealing enough, she might be able to find a husband on her own as well.

If she divorces, she will expect alimony or child support, as it is provided for her in the passage above.

She can thank the bible for establishing this principle long ago.

The woman is provided for, if the marriage does not work out.

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3. working on Sabbath , Exodus 35:2, who gets to put his employee to death, since he is morally obligated to kill?

Exd 35:2   Six days shall work be done, but on the seventh day there shall be to you an holy day, a sabbath of rest to the LORD: whosoever doeth work therein shall be put to death.

There is a difference between killing, murder, and capital punishment.

This is capital punishment, and yes it is a commandment that God issued for man to rest.

Today, when we work and never rest, we kill ourselves with heart attacks, so no one needs to touch us. We will do it to ourselves.

Also, Jesus pointed out that acts of mercy and certain work can be performed on the Sabbath.

He healed on the Sabbath, which is technically “work.”

He made it clear that the true intention of the commandment was to make people rest, when they wanted to work, so they would not kill themselves.

It was also the day they dedicated to God, to honor and worship and fellowship with Him.

They had been slaves in Egypt, and worked 7 days a week.

They were to respect their own bodies enough to refrain from hard work that would hurt them.

Jesus explained that the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

The Sabbath was also to show one day where they put God first. It was a time of fellowship with God.

They should appreciate what God was doing for them, rather than rebelling. The death penalty was for this rebellion.

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

Jesus also pointed out that acts of mercy, and necessary work was not to be condemned.

For example, animals need to be watered every day, and cannot be ignored on the Sabbath. Or if they are hurt, they need to be helped.

Luk 13:15 The Lord then answered him, and said, [Thou] hypocrite, doth not each one of you on the sabbath loose his ox or [his] ass from the stall, and lead [him] away to watering?

Luk 14:5 And answered them, saying, Which of you shall have an ass or an ox fallen into a pit, and will not straightway pull him out on the sabbath day?

Jesus healed on the Sabbath. Today, Jewish doctors work on the Sabbath, and there is nothing wrong with it.

Luk 14:1 ¶ And it came to pass, as he went into the house of one of the chief Pharisees to eat bread on the sabbath day, that they watched him.

Luk 14:2   And, behold, there was a certain man before him which had the dropsy.

Luk 14:4   And they held their peace. And he took [him], and healed him, and let him go;

The point is, that to do necessary work on the Sabbath, is not forbidden.

But to work on the Sabbath as an act of rebellion against God, to refuse Him worship and fellowship, is a sin, worthy punishment.

If we cannot even show respect for the Creator who gave us life, then our life should be taken away.

The Lord has the right to take back anything he has given us – which includes our very lives.

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After all, why should God continue to give you life, when you do not want Him in yours?

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4. touching the skin of a dead pig – Lev 11:7 , do we need wear gloves when playing football? Or can we play football at all?

You got the verse wrong. You quoted verse 7, instead of 8, although it is an introduction to verse 8:

Lev 11:7   And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he chews not the cud; he [is] unclean to you.

Leviticus says not to eat of their flesh.

It does not say wear gloves, or not to play football.

This is a lesson in microbiology.

Contaminated flesh brings disease, and possible death.

Pork carries the parasite trichinosis.

And bacteria are all over decaying flesh of any animal.

Lev 11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch; they [are] unclean to you.

Deu 14:8 And the swine, because it divides the hoof, yet chews not the cud, it [is] unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass.

How to get clean after touching a dead carcass – wash yourself, and take a bath!

Lev 11:31   These [are] unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.

Lev 11:40   And he that eats of the carcass of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: he also that bears the carcass of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.

No one should touch a dead carcass without washing their hands afterwards.

This is a concept in sterile processing and microbiology.

Pathologists and coroners today do the same thing.

Once they have touched anything dead, they wash their hands and arms, up to the elbow.

In the case of “pig skin” footballs, the skin has been processed and sterilized, and tanned. There is no need to fear contamination from a football, unless if falls into sewage somewhere.

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5. I stone my brother for planting crops side by side? (no reference given)

The bible never says this. But see # 6.

No one gets stoned for planting crops the wrong way.

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6. I burn my mother for wearing garments of 2 different threads? (no reference given)

The bible does not say this.

You have to understand the application and the reason behind any commandment.

The temple was made by mixing various coverings.

Num 4:8 And they shall spread upon them a cloth of scarlet, and cover the same with a covering of badgers’ skins, and shall put in the staves thereof.

You maybe referring to this:

19:19  Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shall not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shall not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee.

The specific application involves linen and wool, and Israel was not to mix the fibers from a vegetable product and an animal product into the same piece of material.

It expands in its practical application when we understand that mixing animal and vegetable fibers makes poor quality material.

If worn, the material would rip and tear within a short time.

Therefore, the intent—its spirit—is to teach us to purchase the best quality that we can afford.

The same holds true with the other laws that appear in this context.

God is instructing us that the best thing to do is to keep the breeds pure and not let hybrids develop.

The pure breeds of a species are always considered to be of higher quality.

Good agriculture would plant only one type of seed in one field, to allow the best growth, unhindered by another seed, that might be more dominant, and suppress the growth of the weaker plant.

No one is going to be burned here. These are rules on how to be successful in one’s personal daily works.

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Final Note.

Every person on earth is equal before a holy and righteous God.

There are no presidents, kings or rich men on Judgment Day.

We are all sinners needing salvation and forgiveness for our wrongdoings.

No one gets special treatment because they have been in a position of worldly power, or riches.

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In fact the opposite happens.

Scripture says that to those who have been given much, much will be required of them.

How will each of us be judged?

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I urge the presidents and kings of this world, and those who seem to worship power in high places, to reflect on the true meaning of scripture, which is to give life, not take it away.

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Scripture is the protective fence that keeps us safe from Satan, the enemy.

The Word of God is life to the spirit, and to the soul. 

God understands the spiritual realm better than we do.

If we obey Him, we will have life.

If we disobey Him, we will bring death to ourselves – both physical and spiritual death.

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The real question is, do you want to live ? – here, and in the world to come?

 


16 Responses to “Bible Answers for Martin Sheen”

  1. Is the president of west wing a clone of Obama…His script certainly fits Obama. I am surprised Islam wasn’t incorporated into it…DANIEL did say TRUTH WOULD BE TRASHED IN THE STREETS…AND IT CERTAINLY IS TODAY..

    This trash is just part of satan’s set up to discredit the Bible so they can enthrone the koran, which positively is the gospel of antichrist…

    • hi ruth

      I think Obama watched West Wing. He has no original thoughts of his own.

      Martin Sheen may also be an Obama supporter.

      • I really needed a good laugh today…you are so funny Marianne! and thank you for the credit..:)

        And yes, Martin Sheen is an avid supporter of Obama-he refers him to JFK…I’ll find the video and post it.

        And WELL DONE Marianne! WELL DONE! :)

    • I am laughing so hard….I am picturing Marianne wanting to throw up when she watches this video…”there’s no getting out of here unless we go together”….laughing…:) and the music is just too much! AND THEN he wants a contribution at the end….oh my…

      • Boy , is he deceived.

        Obama would like to get rid of all the Christians to make room for Muslim take over. He would like to see Israel crushed, so the Muslims can take over there.

        He would like to see all patriotic American Soldiers that fought for their country put on the “red list,” and have them labeled as domestic terrorists.

        He would like to see all babies destroyed during partial birth abortion. Sounds like someone a Catholic like him would appreciate.

        He would like to see the United Nations take over this country as he collapses the economy, and the nation, and makes way for the New World order.

        Put his faith into action? How? By building a mosque in NYC?

        He and Obama both hate Christians….they got that in common..since both mock the bible.

        I hope he wakes up. Until he does, he has nothing to offer, and this is a shame, since he has the money to do positive things.

        I wonder if his feelings for Obama have changed any, since the disastrous administration has started.

  2. Marianne,

    Thank you for sanctifying name of The Lord!

    Moreover, for example, in order to carry out punishment of death for profaning Sabbath – it must be proved that person who is accused is raised from the childhood in religious manner and had learned ENTIRE Torah and received all the knowledge regarding observance from his fathers – only in this manner and with presence of 2 witnesses at least court has the right to carry out the punishment; So it’s established, that you need to have condition in which person is raised in religious manner and dwells among other observing people – and as an act of rebellion he publically desecrated Sabbath, only then such death sentence can be applied; Moreover, you need Court out of 120 Judges attending in Temple in Jerusalem…of course, such sentence does not apply to average American who would profane Sabbath and certainly there is no moral obligation to threat person with death…

    American President played by Sheen pretty much resembles spiritual impurity and essence of Antichrist…

  3. Martin Sheen is telling us collective salvation is our salvation….Which is a lie from hell….That is like building a city so we are not scattered…or like many ways lead to god.. IT is the antithesis of the Gospel of Christ..
    Obama also gave a speech about individual salvation depends on collective salvation…..But before he gave the speech a muslim wrote a book using the same theme…Looks like satan’s children all have the same mind….

    http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~db=all~content=a755523676~frm=titlelink

  4. The bible says there will be a great falling away from Jesus and the man of sin be revealed…It is happening.. Matthew 25 and other churches in bed with Obama will probably accept into their hearts and minds the moon god named sin alias allah… Thus the man of sin will be revealed..He will sit in their temples (their bodies) and say he is the god of Abraham..

  5. Keep up the good work, Marianne!

  6. I never watched that show and Sheen has always been an arrogant Liberal in real life. Of course this was his character and the dialogue was written for him.

    Some people love to take the scriptures out of context and use them to their own ends.

    You say “But it takes the presence of the Holy Spirit to properly discern the truth, and apply the scriptures properly.”

    You are exactly correct, some people have hardened their own hearts to the true meaning of scripture, although all have the option to understand, and they can certainly understand the plan of Salvation enough to either accept or reject.

  7. The President is a master and all his servants are paid , or they are not there, are they. So Martin Sheen is showing hypocrisy , where a private person has some religious calling and follows conscience, but he, as president is a technical slave owner, a master over paid servants, and he is restricted by the Constitution not to pass judgments on private people and their religious callings. I could add that he said something about his daughter being sold into slavery, that by interpretation can be said to be a father’s controlling interest in the fortunes of his own daughter, without her permission to do so.

  8. The bible is clear and they who wish to change the meanings of the scripture do it at their own peeril. It is advisable to all christians to avoid arguments with non believers for it is said that it is through discussing issues of sripture that you dont understand that bringeth sin againist the holy spirit. everythin can be explained in the physical world but it wont change a thing for Gods word will be reveal according to his plan. Mortals have no bissiness giving ideas. For Mr sheen we do not know what sent you but we will pray that you see the light. Even paul was prosecuting christians until he saw a revealation. Your time is coming and for sure EVERY kneel shall bow and worhip the mighty God father of jesus. God bless you doctor.

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