Bible predicts outcome of Iraq War

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The Iraq war is described in Jeremiah 50-51, Revelation 18: 9, 11, 19, and Rev 17:4. It is part of the war on terror, which is the predicted Red Horse of the Apocalypse.

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Discussion plan

physical Babylon

the divine purpose for the war

who was to be involved

why Babylon falls twice

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Babylon itself

“Babylon” represents the territory we now think of as (1) Iraq. However, ancient Babylon also included the territories now known as (2) Syria, (3) Turkey, (4) Saudi Arabia, (5) Jordan, (6) Lebanon, (7) Israel (Palestinians). Over time, there have been different kings that ruled over this area. At the moment, there are separate countries, but they will be united one more time under the Antichrist.

Rev 17:9 And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits.

Revelation 17 discusses Babylon as a mystery, a woman who sits on a beast, and is drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus. Babylon, as an ancient city, represents the Antichrist empire.

*** Since this was meant to be futuristic, the only modern system that is drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus is Islam. Communism also qualifies, but to a lesser extent.

Revelation 18 discusses Babylon’s merchandise, in order to identify her, and indicates that merchants weep over her.

In Rev 18:19, it says, “And they cast dust on their heads, and cried, weeping and wailing…”

This is a middle east custom, so Babylon is a place those in the middle east do NOT want to see destroyed.

**** Note: There are many debates over who Babylon could be, including America. I will acknowledge that ANY country can act like a SPIRITUAL Babylon, and suffer punishment from God, but there is only one PHYSICAL, literal Babylon. This is NOT a discussion of spiritual Babylon.

Babylon is by “many waters.” (Jer 51:13, Rev 17:1)

It is an ancient empire, including lands touching the Euphrates river, Tigris river, Nile river, Mediterranean Sea, Black Sea, Red Sea, Aegean Sea, Caspian Sea, and Persian Gulf.

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How we know it is modern Babylon, and not just ancient Babylon being described in Jeremiah

1. the whole earth is involved. This did not happen the first time.

Jer 50:23 How is the hammer of the whole earth cut asunder and broken! how is Babylon become a desolation among the nations!

2. the “great nation (USA-America)” and coalition forces of “many kings” were meant to be “raised from the ends of the earth” against it, in God’s will, who would “show no mercy” (50: 41-42) This did not happen the first time.

Jer 50:9 For, lo, I will raise and cause to come up against Babylon an assembly of great nations from the north country: and they shall set themselves in array against her; from thence she shall be taken: their arrows [shall be] as of a mighty expert man; none shall return in vain.


***note, modern warfare – they can, through satellite, thousands of miles away, shoot a missile (arrow) now, and aim it straight into a particular window in a building. So extreme accuracy.  America (USA) is also northwest of Iraq.


Jer 50:41 Behold, a people shall come from the north, and a great nation, and many kings shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.


Jer 50:42 They shall hold the bow and the lance: they [are] cruel, and will not show mercy: their voice shall roar like the sea, and they shall ride upon horses, [every one] put in array, like a man to the battle, against thee, O daughter of Babylon.

3. The king of Babylon, who would become anguished, feeble before them (50: 43)

Jer 50:43 The king of Babylon hath heard the report of them, and his hands waxed feeble: anguish took hold of him, [and] pangs as of a woman in travail.


**recall Sadaam Hussein was so scared he was hiding, feeble, in a hole in the ground

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Purpose of the Iraq invasion in the divine plan (this is not a political statement) All passages are from Jeremiah

1. To defeat Iraq, and desolate her (50: 3,23)

2. to execute vengeance, punishment (50: 15-18, 27)

3. to protect Israel in its final return home (50: 4-7, 19-20)

4. because Iraq contended against the Lord (50: 24)

5. it is the work, and will, of God, to come against any ungodly nation by using opposing armies. (50: 25)

6. Iraq was proud against the Lord, so to destroy the pride and humble it. (50: 31)

7. it oppressed Israel (50: 33)

8. the “great nation (USA-America) and coalition forces of “many kings” were meant to be “raised from the ends of the earth” against it, in God’s will, who would “show no mercy” (50: 41-42)

9. to anguish the king of Babylon, who would become feeble before them (50: 43)

**recall Sadaam was so scared he was hiding, feeble, in a hole in the ground.

10. to “repay” Babylon/Chaldea for evil done in Zion (51: 24)

11. it caused Israel to fall (51: 49)

12. so that the Lord’s purpose would be fulfilled (51: 29)

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Iraq – Win or loose?

Babylon falls the second time. She is forsaken.

Jer 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reaches unto heaven, and is lifted up [even] to the skies.

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As we can see from today’s headlines, because of the civil war that occurred after the Iraq invasion, the total cost of maintaining the troops, and the slowness, however forgivable, of the government to take charge over its own territory, people are calling to give up on the effort. Coalition troops have been slowing withdrawing the entire time. This shows bible predictions are accurate from thousands of years ago!!

The Quran was never this accurate !!! :)

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Rationale behind going into Iraq, if we were just going to give up.


1. See 12 purposes above

2. To show even righteous man how even he has limitations, and has to submit this war to God.

3. The region is too evil for a democracy

4. to fulfill the prophecy that Babylon would fall twice

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What does leaving mean?


Leaving does NOT mean defeat for America. America did its job. It was a tool in the hands of God against Iraq, and its supporters. God used America and the coalition forces to weaken the evil Babylonian system, and give it one last chance for righteousness.

Leaving MEANS:

a. defeat for freedom and righteousness in that country

b. this allows for the consolidation of the “BEAST,” for the Antichrist kingdom to form.

c. they are out of time for repentance, because God will turn his back on them

d. they are ready for God’s wrath

e. they are ready for the 200 million man army, which will march on them during the time of wrath, and destroy multitudes

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How does Beast consolidate? What happens next?

1. Iran invades Iraq to initiate vengeance, and finalize the destruction.

Jer 51:11 Make bright the arrows; gather the shields: the LORD hath raised up the spirit of the kings of the Medes: for his device [is] against Babylon, to destroy it; because it [is] the vengeance of the LORD, the vengeance of his temple.

2. this invasion is also the Lord’s doing

Jer 51:12 Set up the standard upon the walls of Babylon, make the watch strong, set up the watchmen, prepare the ambushes: for the LORD hath both devised and done that which he spoke against the inhabitants of Babylon.

3. northern kingdoms that will come against Babylon (51:27, 48)

Ararat (Turkey)

Minni (Iran)

Ashkenaz (Russia, Armenia, Kazaria, East Europe)

4. The King of the Medes (Iran, allies) will lead (51:27-28) the plunder

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Once American troops forsake Iraq, Iran and its allies will come against it, and take over, destroying it. This will allow for the consolidation of the 4th Beast kingdom territories under the Antichrist.


When will all this happen? I am not telling. It is sooner than you think, or have heard people predict, so purify yourself for the trouble to come, so that God will have mercy on you.


72 Responses to “Bible predicts outcome of Iraq War”

  1. [...] 17:4. It is part of the war on terror, which is the predicted Red Horse of the Apocalypse. Click here for [...]

  2. I’m afraid I have to (respectfully) disagree with a large amount of what you’ve read in to the Book of Revelation. Close inspection of the Book of Revelation (on which I am currently writing a postgraduate thesis) and its contemporaries from the genre of apocalyptic literature show that it was a polemic against the vices of the Roman Empire specifically, and the concept of Empire generally.
    It does not contain prophecy, in other words it cannot be considered to refer to future events such as the Iraq War.

    • Thankyou, was about to write pretty much the same thing, I am not doing a thesis however, was just bought up by the Catholic Church, and decided to take the path where I can actually question what was being read to me.

    • Doesnt matter what degrees ynu are doing. Meek are those whom will know the truth. I am one of the 144.000 I am from The tribe of Joeseph. 23 years old.You Have to seek our Heavenly father to be able to decode His word. If our father is not in your heart and mind.Nothing shall be revealed to you.You Shall only recieve confusíon and condradictions.The Holy Bible Is A Powerful Book and so If you are reading It For your purposes you will never be able to understand It. If you are reading to seek for Truth and righteourness.You shall understand clearly.

    • Way deeper than what you know. Rothschild bloodline controls most of the world. It came from the Roman Empire. This is a prophecy scary but true. All about the new world order

  3. Hi Subhuti

    Most of the quotes came from the book of Jeremiah, chapters 50-51. See above. The roman model is acknowledged to be one interpretation, based on the Nebuchadnezzar’s dream, and the final 10 toes. but if we look further, we see Daniel describing a beast which matches the one in Revelation. And in Daniel, we find the interpretation on which empires it represents – it is a Grecian empire model, which did include parts of the roman empire territory. Many ancient empires overlapped in territory as power changed hands.

    blessings
    marianne

  4. In my study I learned that Revelation is both prophecy and present day events for those living at the time, much about the Roman empire. I’ve found that many people are so fascinated with Revelation and the prophecy, trhing to figure them out and make predictions, that they miss the book in it’s entirety. In truth there are messages for all ages found in Revelation.

  5. Hi Debbie, or anyone.

    I think the Roman empire has a role too. The whole world is involved in the end times, and we can see that from current politics. In John’s time, the only empire they knew about was the Roman, so people assumed it would be that one. I just used a few verses from Revelation to help show how “Babylon” could be the ancient Babylon, and not just a spiritual Babylon, which people want to say is America.

    blessings
    marianne

  6. Then where did Gog and Magog go? Seems to me that soon, Russia will move down on Israel with its allies. (I note that Iraq is included in that group.) From my view, this war will take place before the Trib. And the war with 200 millions will come at the end of the Trib. Two different wars at each end of the Tribulation period.

    The first war will get both Russia and the young lions of Tarshish, (USA, Canada, and Australia) out of the way so the antichrist can step in. The second war will be when Jesus comes with His warriors and destroys the antichrist.

    As usual, we can all have many opinions. But we still serve one Lord, Jesus. DavWms

  7. Hi David,

    This is all just looking at the Jeremiah portions. It seems like the USA would have to back off before any other invasions would occur. Right now, the USA is “in the way” of any invasions. Gog and Magog are not mentioned until Rev 21, after the millennium. They most likely are also involved before and during the tribulation as well. 2 wars of Gog? I always thought their involvement was a little confusing. Maybe when we leave, the first Gog and Magog invasion occurs. (?) I guess we will find out soon.

    blessings
    marianne

  8. Hi M
    ” *** Since this was meant to be futuristic, the only modern system that is drunk with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus is Islam. Communism also qualifies, but to a lesser extent.”

    What about the Romans , the Roman Catholics ?

    Check out this link, I think you will find it interesting.
    “John saw this fourth beast three times: first as a red dragon seeking to destroy Israel: “…and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads…” (Rev 12). In chapter 13 this dreadful beast appears again representing the revived Roman Empire whose”deadly wound was healed”-and also its ruler, the Antichrist whom”all that dwell upon the earth shall worship.” Notice, “the dragongave him his power and his seat and great authority.” So the “reddragon,” who is Satan, is actually building his kingdom and using Antichrist to his own ends.”

    http://www.pre-trib.org/article-view.php?id=189

    Blessings
    Bee

  9. Marianne, you seem to have no idea what the second horse of revelation means, some things are right in your text but not all (just as always before)..
    And, i am sorry but i have to explain things little bit deeper so that you cant argue about the TRUTH!

    1.Horsemen is the free world which doesnt keep the land which it had conquered.
    2.Horsemen is the Muslim-Communist alliance, which keeps all land which it has conquered.
    3.Horsemen is New Euro-Middle east Union and Its new banking system.
    (Dan 2:40 And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things : and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.
    This indicates that fourth kingdom conquers all the areas of three earlier kingdoms (Babylon,Medo-Persia and Rome))
    4.Horsemen is the Antichrist, he is the one who wants to kill them all. And he is the king of babylon called Assyrian.

    Q:Now, america is in Iraq, but for what purpose?
    A:To create way to last world kingdom called fourth kingdom!
    All this happens after WWIII when Iran is beaten down and USA is in so big problems which you cant even imagine:
    (more than $8 000 000 000 000 debths + riots + nuke problem etc).
    After this there will be a new agreement, beetween old Rome countries (russia has conquered all other countries in europe) and the countries in the middle east (fourth kingdom).
    From that kingdom (Iraq) shall rise new leader who subdues three countries (antichrist) and his power comes from 10 kings of middle east (we’ll see).
    After this there shall rice false prophet (second beast)
    (king of Israel: Hoos. 10:15
    So shall Bethel do unto you because of your great wickedness: in a morning shall the king of Israel utterly be cut off.)
    Who uses all the power of first beast to decept all peoples who did not believe the truth.
    (Now it is interesting to see whom of these two declares that he is god in the third temple of jerusalem (built after WW3:
    Dan. 9:25
    Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the (false)Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.)
    From the day he has declared himself as god there shall be
    42 moths/3.5 years/1260 days to his end (coming of the real Messiah to beat him with blow of his spirit)&(Rapture at the last trump/ every eye shall see him coming in the clouds)
    Rev. 11:3 ,12:6,12:14 Dan. 12:11

    If you have the ability to count days:
    396 days Rev.9:15 +
    152 days Rev.9:1-11 +
    490 days Dan.9:24-27 +
    1260 days Rev.13:5 =
    2300 days of Dan.8:13-14 !!!
    Here is the picture (if this stupid editor works):


    If not here is the link:

    No one cant be 100% sure when this had started, but Lawrence
    seems to be at least 99% sure about the timing of these.
    Go and check his website if you havent yet:

    http://theendtimeprophet.com/

    And tell to me if you can deny his teaching!

  10. Hi Bee,

    The modern Roman Catholics do not kill Christians. The unbelieving Romans did 2000 years ago, but they were converted. The reference in Rev is referring to the current conditions of the end times, not what happened 2000 years ago. Greeks killed people too, and so did every other heathen type, but once they were converted, this stopped, for the most part.

    I used to accept, a long time ago, that the roman empire is the antichrist system, but I see differently now, with modern events. The roman interpretation, to me, is an outdated interpretation. The antichrist is an arab. THe beast described in REvelation is interpreted in Daniel.

    blessings
    marianne

  11. Hi Joel,

    Shabat Shalom

    I am not sure where you see disagreement, especially if you look at other posts. I agree that the second horse is red, which means war and conquest. I agree that the antichrist is called Assyrian, and that he will overcome other kingdoms. I also agree, as stated here, that America’s involvement in Iraq, especially when it starts to withdraw, weakening its presence, will create a way for the last and 4th kingdom. I agree that one reason America will withdraw, as stated above, is for financial reasons.

    We should be expecting more of these developments in the near future, as prophecy is being fulfilled right in front of us. It is a dangerous, but exciting time. May we all be safe.

    blessings
    marianne

  12. Hey, Yoel…I like your input, and agree with much of it. But it would sure be better accepted by people if it came without the spirit of superiority. This site is one of the few that people can disagree in a friendly manner. We are not enemies in here, as is the case in other blogsites. But rather we are brethren in Christ seeking truth. Just a friendly reminder….DavWms

  13. Hey Dave

    Guess it is time for a glass of wine, and some cheers!

    blessings
    marianne

  14. Marianne,
    the average Roman Catholic probably will not kill Christians. But once the system in Rome has regained absolute power, it will persecute Christians again. And as in the days of Hitler many Germans were deceived into killing Jews so Roman Catholics may be used to kill Christians and think they are doing God a service.

    • The Roman Catholic Church killed Christians in inquisition, don´t you studied it? Vatican was built over milions of bodies.Rome( Vatican )is sit over 7 moutains:
      The seven hills of Rome are on the east side of the Tiber River and are named:
      + Aventine Hill (Aventinus)
      + Caelian Hill (Caelius)
      + Capitoline Hill (Capitolinus)
      + Esquiline Hill (Esquilinus)
      + Palatine Hill (Palatinus)
      + Quirinal Hill (Quirinalis)
      + Viminal Hill (Viminalis)

  15. Hi all. Yoel I do like your description of the horsemen though I differ somewhat with each:

    1st horse (white): The Roman catholic church did more damage to the Jewish nation in the name of Christianity then any other in history. Notice the rider carries a bow, yet adorned upon a white horse and crown as if he is an image of Christ. The bow is a weapon of war and during the cursades Roman church slay many of our Jewish brethen.

    2nd Horse (red): Both the Old Russia and China use red as their symbol upon their flag. Communisms color has always been red and she has made great effort to conquer by taking peace from the earth, through wars and romurs of war. The cold war was the most noted stand off, and nations fought against nation to spread their gospel.

    3rd horse (black): Capitalism has always been under the black flag. It symbolizes her freedom and the banking system with the pair of scales, that stand for trade, even if the scale is unbalanced.
    Notice the price of food during our times, and things will get worse. Today every nation is crying hurt not the oil and wine Rev. 6:6 The kings of the earth have gotten drunk off her ability to make money money.

    4th Horse (pale): In the greek meaning (Chloros) or pale yellowish green. Islams banner is green in color.
    It preach hate and self infliction in order to obtain heaven with the god. These men and women welcome death and preach hatred for anyone who does not receive their religion.
    Rev 6:8 and power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth.
    1/4th of the earth is occupied by muslims.

    Rev 6:8 to kill with the sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

    Who else today kills with the sword but muslims? Through hunger they’ve killed millions in the Sudan causing the death of babies old and young in an effort to spread their religion.
    Once men die and are enslaved in these remote places, food and clean drinking water are absent, cholera and other animal borne dieases take over.

    The 5th seal. Those slain for standing upon the word of God are seen under the altar crying out to the Father. They died taking a stand against the false religion.
    This false religion is but a mixture of all the world religions coming together. Last month all of the leaders of the major world powers came together to talk peace.
    Within their discussions was how to come up with a religion that would be accepted by every nation. Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc.
    These men are moving to forces this one world religion on everyone in an effort to combat terrorism and Islam and the catholic church will be at the front of any decisions made. If everyone(all religions) agree, there is nothing to fight about, seeing as how most wars are fought over religion.
    The only group of people who will not bow to to demonic religion will be true born again Christians and the Jews. This is when we will see Rev 6:9. Pray to the Father for strength.

  16. Hi Rev Williams,

    It certainly is interesting the different interpretations there are of the 4 horses. There is truth in each one, so maybe we should consider all to be true, as they are different facets of the same image. I had never thought of communism as the red horse, but I can see your point. I had the white horse as Islam, but you have it as the pale horse. It is obvious that Islam is involved in these end times. The serious conclusion for the 5th seal, is that it is fast approaching, and all our lives are in danger. And how many of us are ready to die? We all need to pray for strength, like you said. Dying will “hurt.”

    blessings
    marianne

  17. Everything that is going on in these days is a signal. The end of times is really close, the easiest way to find out is by the numbers that give you the Bible rather than trying to give explainations to the descriptions of the old times. Yes the Bible seems sometimes like it was talking about the romans, however if that would have been the case wouldn’t you think that john shouldn’t had have difficulties trying to explain certain things. Do the Math from Genesis to Revelations and remember the anticrist is everything that our Lord hates. God bless every one.

  18. Hi Gabriel,

    You are right. The Romans have their place in time and prophecy, but there is more to evil in the past, and in the end times, than just the Romans. Who has Israel spent the most time fighting? It is something to think about.

    blessings
    marianne

  19. Hi all. Well the situation here in Iraq is quite desperate. With the withdrawl of the US forces that is taking place as we speak from Baghdad, they are now telling all of us EX-Pats who are working here that the Green Zone, also known as the International Zone (IZ) that Baghdad will become the color gray. That is, the green zone will have disappeared by Jan 1st. With the US leaving by the end of 2011, the absolute hatred of the Iraqi people towards the US shows in their icy stares at foreigners, and at worse the kidnapping and killing of a few who are unfortunate enough to get tortured and killed in a very horribal death. That is because we (the US) are the infedels who invaded their country and no one in his or her right mind could ever imagine a country like this becoming democratic for any length of time. GWB was extremely brave by coming back here, and I am just glad it was only shoes that were thrown at him instead of what we get around here at night. No, this place is only worse off than it was before we punished them because of their continual threats to other surrounding coutries. However, now they are just joining in with all the other surrounding countries to ultimately rush directly toward Israel as all of the nations around Iraq and including Iraq hate Israel more than they do Americans. WWIII, aka: The tribulation period is very near. The sad part is, we do not hate the Iraqi people, but they absolutely hate us. As one Jordanian told me before I came here. We are all arabs. Don’t trust one of them for one second.

  20. Dear JRA

    I pray for your safe return here. Although I saw appreciation for the initial Iraq invasion, to stop Sadaam, and rebuild the country, now that they have material things again, they want us to leave. There has been no appreciation since the insurgents came in to destroy the work America had done.

    Even Jeremiah saw that helping basically corrupt people is a waste of time, and that the country would be forsaken. No country, or human, can help the sons of Ishmael now. Only the Holy Spirit can do this, so our work is finished there.

    blessings, and come home soon,
    marianne

  21. Thank you, Marianne. I appreciate your concern regarding my safe return. I sometimes want to just get back on a plane right now before the reality of our leaving here really hits the Iraqis. They will want more and more bribes because they know that the money is going to dry up sooner than they thought. My company does not even want us to move around in the IZ because as of January 1st, the new Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) that GWB signed along with the Prime Minister of Iraq the day of the “shoe throwing” is now the LAW. The Iraqi government can arrest anyone in their country. Problem is, they are arresting us for bribes. Because of that, we carry $5,000. in cash on us at all times just in case we get arrested. They do not need a reason to do that. If I do not have bribe money, then there is no telling what will happen to me in their custody. By the way, that is right here in the GREEN ZONE, or IZ, which is supposed to be the Internation Zone. In this part of the world, it is only bribes that keep you alive. Needless to say, I don’t go out unless I have to, and I usually take a few expats with me. I would NEVER go out alone in the green zone, and NEVER NEVER into the RED Zone. That is where my bosses are located. I have not met them yet, and I don’t plan to meet them. It would be too dangerous for them and I probably would not make it too long out there anyway. We cannot carry a gun with us. Iraqi law. How do I protect myself? Bribe money. A pretty weak weapon in the final analysis.

    No, there is nothing but a war torn country left, with a lot of angry people. It is not ever going to get better. You could drench this place with money, and it will never get better. As for a democratic country. No way. Love and blessings.

  22. Hi JRA,

    I really pray you get out of there soon, like in the next 30 days. It looks like the time for redemption of Iraq is over. According to Colin Powell, there is going to be an international crisis, and I do not want you stuck there.

    blessings
    marianne

  23. Hi. That is my biggest fear. Being stuck here. This won’t be like the 1975 helicopters on top of the US Embassy in Vietnam. Whatever is going to happen will be so fast that we will not have time to leave. What is really bad right now are all the troops who are leaving here to go to Afghanistan. We are spread out too thin now. It doesn’t take the bad guys too long to figure that out. Anyway… thank you for your kind words. I believe something bad is going to happen, but I just don’t know exactly when, but I would tend to agree with Colin Powell. The time of testing for Obama may take place before he even enters into the White House. I will try to keep in touch with everyone as to how and when I can get out of here. Best.

  24. Hi JRA

    I would think that if the crisis occurs before Obama takes office, then it is Bush’s problem, not Obama’s. We will see if the crisis is “over” or not by the time Obama is in, but I doubt it. From what i understand, if it is a major crisis, Bush can stop everything and stay in office until it clears.

    blessings
    marianne

  25. I don’t understand how the Iraq War is judgement against Babylon. We went there for misguided political and economic reasons, having to do mainly with our own self-interest. Also, Bush disregarded several intelligence reports that stated things like “the Shiites and Sunnis have a history of violence” etc. However, it could be possible that it was predicted, since Iraq, under Hussein, was considered by the Arabs to be the balancing force and “keeper of the gates” against the Iranians sweeping through the Middle East with demands to overthrow their oil oligarchies. Still, I have a hard time getting past the fact the Bush went to Iraq when we didn’t need to, stretched our military, put us on the debt path that has now gone down to even more insane levels under Obama, and trampled our Constitution, all while claiming to be protecting us from terrorists. I think that he ironically went so overboard trying to increase security that the War on Terror has become a convenient justification to strip away our rights and slowly establish an oligarchy or dictatorship. That’s my 2 cents.

    • Hi Will

      The fall of Iraq and its eventual dissolution is prophetically important to the power distribution in that area. Iraq had dominated that area, and for the Antichrist to come to power, the power distribution has to be equal across the various Islamic nations, for them to unite, and support the antichrist. Since the Ezechiel 38 war indicates an attack from the north, it is important that an Iran- Russia union form, which it has now.

      This is not any advantage to us, but in the end, God will defeat all of them.

      The liberal media dominates right now, and gives a slanted view of our country. We went to Iraq initially because Hussein was a terrorist, and was collaborating with other terrorist groups, like Al Queda. We also had unfinished business with him over nuclear weapons, which were transported to Syria in the 6 month delay before the Iraq war. We could not however invade Syria also, because that would have been too great a war.

      The WMDs were documented as real even during the CLinton years, and were not denied until everyone got “political” over it, and wanted to win the next election.

      We started out with a coalition of forces and were successful, but it turned into a disaster as nations abandoned us when terrorist attacks on their countries and citizens caused them to want to pull out.

      So we got stuck there by ourselves, costing us billions of dollars. If the coalition of forces had stayed united, we would have finished the work in Iraq a long time ago.

  26. lol america was doing gods work, raping women and killing children, no wonder you people are so fucked up in the head if you believe this shit, hope you all die under the cover of a mushroom cloud.

  27. Why would you bring a website here that advertises scientology?

  28. Our blessed Messiah(Michael or one who is like God) already defeated the dragon(the Edomite Priesthood) during the 70th week of daniel which was fulfilled from 67-70 AD. Jer 9:11 predicted Jerusalem would become a den of DRAGONS. The scribes were called SERPENTS in Mat 23:33. The messiah had to wait till his enemies became his footstool according to Heb 12:12. This happened during the WAR referenced by dan 9:26. It lasted exactly 1260 days as proved by dan 12:7 and Rev 11:2. We cannot extend the book of Revelation outside of these 1260 days, because John was told in Rev 22:10 SEAL NOT. This guarantees a first century fulfillment. Those that have a problem with this need to read rev 22:18-19. This is a sobering warning NOT to ADD or TAKE AWAY. How long is mainstream christianity going to continue to ignore this WARNING,

    and preach the gospel of ARMAGEDDON ?? The REAL WAR is found in 1 Pet 2:10 “abstain from fleshly lusts, which WAR against the soul.

    There are sever consequences for putting the ANTICHRIST into dan 9:27, because the MESSIAH says in John 8:24 “if ye believ NOT that I AM HE, ye shall die in your sins”. I hope and pray you will keep an open mind for the truth as the Holy Spirit wants to reval it to you. AMEN.

    • Hi Rodney

      You have the first century view. This would suppose that the book of revelation was written before the fall of Jerusalem.

      How would you explain the contents of revelation on these points:

      4th beast – was, is not (Rome), and is to come….if Rome “was” at the time of John, then the “is not” doesn’t fit.

      the number 666

      the battle of gog and magog – when did that get fulfilled?

      the fall of Babylon for the 2nds time – when did that happen in the first century?

      how did the 7 seals get fulfilled in the first century?
      the 7 trumpets and 7 vials?

      thanks

  29. As of Feb 14th , 2010: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/09/03/turkey.water.shortage/index.html#cnnSTCText

    http://www.lookupfellowship.com/2009/07/you-want-proof-look-at-euphrates-river.html

    Revelation 16:12 — “And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.”

  30. To those that feel that the book of Revelations was about the Roman Empire and not prophecy: Ever heard, history repeats it’s self?

  31. I ended up doing a major essay on the war in Iraq, and uploaded bits and peices of it; http://torturedmannequin.blogspot.com/

  32. This is some pretty crazy stuff. The Bible is SO old… there are definitely great life lessons to be taken from the books the people back then (not “God”) chose to include in it, but to say that it is predicting what is happening right Now is a bit over the top. It is all interpretation based on agenda. Rivers dry up and flood, wars begin and end, and snakes and bugs flourish and die. These events are all massive or minute depending on context. I would guess that there have been wars in the past that people have applied this same text to, and with equally strong conviction.

    I believe in God, but I also believe this is just as extreme an interpretation of religious text as the Muslims who use the Quran as a rationalization for terrorism. The Quran and Bible are So similar, people just do not take the time to learn with an open mind.

    God loves us all. All of us. Everywhere.

    • dear Really

      You can believe what you choose, but the bible has proven itself true. Hundreds of prophecies have come true, and more are being fulfilled each day. You have to know what they are to see that they are coming to pass.

      Some of the content of the Quran was borrowed from the bible.

      There is One God, who wishes that no one perish without him.

      Good and evil exist.

      Choose good, and ask God to reveal himself to you.

  33. Really:

    There’s a chapter in Dr. Regan’s book on The Exponential Curve.

    “The bible teaches that this acceleration of technology which we are experiencing will be a sign of the end times- a sign that will signal the soon return of the Lord.”

    “Consider Danial 12:4 In this verse the Lord tells Daniel that one of the signs of the end times will be an acceleration of travel and Knowledge”.

    The same concept of end time acceleration is found in the New Testament, Jesus spoke about it when He talked with His disciples about the signs of the end times that would herald his return (Matthew 24:5) He mentions a great variety of signs-spiritual, natural, societal, and world political-and then He said these signs would be like “birth pangs’ (Matthew 24:8)

    I can really relate to it because every time I turn around they are changing something at the hospital or trying or replacing something with a new gadget. As we age this is very stressful and I wonder if I will be able to keep up with it, because I don’t believe there is any retirement in the future for me. Luckily there’s a 79 year old woman working in the Blood Bank. She’s not pushing the patients through the system as fast as we are told to. What does this have to do with the Bible?

    “!# The exponential curve is proof positive that Bible prophecy is true. The Lord has told us what He is going to do in the end times, now he is doing it, and we had better pay attention to it.

    2# The fulfillment of prophecy related to the exponential curve show that god is in control. Even when it appears that everything on this earth is out of control, we can be assured that God is orchestrating all the chaos to the ultimate triumph of His Son in history (Psalm 2)

    3# The exponential curve is very strong evidence that we are living on borrowed time. It points to the fact that Jesus is at the very gates of Heaven, waiting for the command of His Father to return.”

  34. http://brittgillette.com/WordPress/?page_id=6

    http://brittgillette.com/WordPress/?page_id=8

    http://www.kurzweilai.net/the-law-of-accelerating-returns

  35. Marianne;
    Did you know George W. Bush has a new book out?

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/lifestyle/tv/george-w-bush-recounts-mistakes-on-hurricane-katrina-wmd-in-iraq-on-winfrey-show-106967568.html

    “George W. Bush recounts mistakes on Hurricane Katrina, WMD in Iraq on Winfrey show
    By: CARLA K. JOHNSON
    Associated Press
    11/09/10 4:16 PM EST
    CHICAGO — George W. Bush recounted the mistakes of his presidency on Oprah Winfrey’s talk show as he launched a book tour to promote his just-released memoir “Decision Points.”

    The former president said he still feels “sick about” the fact no weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq. His response to Hurricane Katrina could have been quicker, he said, and he should have landed Air Force One two days after the storm instead of viewing the destruction through the plane’s window. And he said he didn’t see the financial meltdown coming.”

    I was walking through the grocery store with my husband yesterday and I spotted the book. I picked it up and just laughed. I have a book on him called “The Faith of George W. Bush”.

    http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance44.html

  36. Rev 17 and 18 are both about the USA., it is the only nation that fits that full criteria of the prophecy.

  37. There’s this web site you can subscribe to that gives you pro/con arguments all kinds of subjects.

    http://usiraq.procon.org/view.subissues.php?issueID=000100

    http://usiraq.procon.org/

    http://usiraq.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=000681#bush

    It would be a good web site for someone who wanted to gather the points to debate someone.

  38. Here’s a video that demonstrates the Exponential Curve Dr. Regan talks about>.

  39. People complain about why we are in Iraq. It is stories like this that explain it.

    Why should terrorists be allowed to do things like this, and go unstopped?

    God help them, when the US troops pull out.

  40. God wins, sinners loose. He will punish sinful people who reject his covenant law. They will know God’s wrath.

  41. Babylon does not mean physical babylon babylon was a metaphor meaning a greatly corrupt and satanic nation babylon would invade a country and take it over except this country is its origin place . Babylon in the bible prophecies is america , the satanic nation , and its pagan ally the vatican , the harlo of babylon , with all he fake fundamenalists out there like bush and rick perry , who are in reality satanists . Babylon takes over its origin place , caanan and israel , and is destroyed by a neighbouring empire . Hence the new babylon , america , will take over the old babylon , iraq , is origin place . Babylon was incredibly satanic but its satanism moved to europe and the caucasus and egypt and the americas and all over asia and now there is really nothing going on in the physical babylon as the new metaphorical babylons now dictate satanism . But the new babylon will be destroyed by its neigbouring empire . Sananda Immanuel Esu , he new age ” jesus ” who is really the antichrist , will rule america as president , and then after ruling the world and he new world order , america will be destroyed by belligerent russians, who are fighting for control of iran and norh korea wih america , and both use the excuse of ” north korea invaded the iran ” .

  42. Obama Just announced the Iraq war is officially OVER !! OCT 21 2011 . TROOPS ARE ALL COMMING HOME BY DEC 31 2011 . PEACE.

  43. this blog is disgustingly ignorant.

  44. By the way, Muslims believe in Jesus Christ. He is one of their Prophets. And Iraq is not a Satanic land, they are in fact very religious nice people.

  45. the moslems say the same thing…even the chinese in their prophecies say almost the same thing…but in that story they are the heroes…and same goes for the indian hindu prophecies…..the truth is that the technology by which you are posting these prophecies came into existence only when some 500 years ago some brave men used their brains and questioned religious dogmas and superstitious beliefs, for which some were even burned on stakes and were stoned and hanged in public.

    Well as far as you are concerned i consider u more dangerous then the Talibans…the talibans are illeterate and village dwelling morons …living in prehistoric conditions..whereas you are an educated, tech savy , and a smart man with a shallow and materialistically unsatisfied heart. And guess what !even the God of Christians, jews and Moslems hate that quality in a man.

  46. All the seas, black sea, Persian gulf, large part of med, red sea will be under the dimensions of heaven as it descends.

  47. Of course the sides of heaven would have to be 1500 miles as is the height stated in the bible. Has this ever been mapped geographically?

  48. Yer it includes all the seas mentioned before..

  49. Excellent research works regarding the evolve of Antichrist and its power execution, aftermath destruction as planned by God.

    Need more clarification in simple words that a lay person to understand.
    May His Spirit guide you, Amen.

  50. BUSH EXONERATED: ISIS UNCOVERS WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION IN IRAQ

    http://www.politicalears.com/blog/bush-exonerated-isis-uncovers-weapons-of-mass-destruction-in-iraq/

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