China’s Ghost Cities

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Why would they build cities and have no one live in them?

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I just thought this was interesting.

Reference (and more pictures):

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339536/Ghost-towns-China-Satellite-images-cities-lying-completely-deserted.html

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Jerome Corsi’s Red Alert reports Google Earth photographs of China depict city after city of vast complexes consisting of office skyscrapers, government buildings, apartment buildings, residential towers and homes, all connected by networks of empty roads – with some of the cities located in China’s truly most inhospitable locations.

Images of these “ghost cities” – after countless billions of dollars have been spent on the towns’ design and construction – reveal nobody lives in them.

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“The photographs look like giant movie sets prepared to film apocalyptic motion pictures in which some sort of a neutron war or bizarre natural disaster has eliminated people from the face of the earth while leaving the skyscrapers, sports stadiums, parks and roads perfectly intact,” Corsi noted.

“One of China’s ghost cities is actually built in the middle of a desert in Inner Mongolia.”

Business Insider ran a series of photos of these Chinese ghost cities. One showed no cars in the city except for approximately 100 parked in largely empty lots clustered around a government building, and another showed a beautiful wetland park with people added using Photoshop.

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China now has an estimated inventory of 64 million vacant homes. It is building up to 20 new ghost cities a year on the country’s “vast swathes of free land.”

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Does anyone have a clue what is going on?

Maybe someone from China can explain this.


55 Responses to “China’s Ghost Cities”

  1. well according to the article one person commented after china gets nuked for attacking the US and other countries they will simply just move into the so called abandoned cities.. sounds like they have plans for taking over…everything,, after the dust settles..

  2. There have been prophecies about China invading the USA, and taking over the state of California, sanctioned by the UN, because the USA is so greatly indebted finacially to China, and can not ever pay it back.

    Part of these prophecies is the taking of many American captives as slave laborers to work for the Chinese both in China and on USA soil that will be taken over by China.

    Could these cities have been build to house the ten thousands of Americans taken captive by China?

    Just some thoughts……

  3. China is way ahead of everyone else in the pursuit of an evil take over of the world. Could anyone believe they built these cities with reckless abandon?! It may appear thay way for a “cover” to throw us off the track, but the elite Chinese are calculating and determined. They don’t know God is in control…..

    • I think this is where a lot of people go offtrack. We think God rules the Earth Sovrenly. He doen not.He does not interfere God does not cause war , hate death etc. Satan does and the earth is his domain because of Adam. Jesus gave us the power to fix our lives.We have just been taught what you said there thus satan makes us sit back and get out of his way. If you only knew the POWER you have it will stager you/.

  4. Could it be because their 1 child policy is decreasing the population to the point of no return and cannot fill those city’s because there is no one to populate them?

  5. In a Time magazine article dated April 5, 2010..titled “Inside China’s Runaway Realstate Boom’..author Bill Powell says China’s money men/speculators are playing the same game America’s banking industry played which resulted in the bursting of the bubble…and a landscape dotted with massive amounts of unoccupied/unsellable realistate. According to Powell,
    ‘No question keeps more economists, investors, hedge-fund managers and bankers up at night than this one: Is China’s property market a bubble?

    The reason for their angst is clear: A property meltdown in China would imperil the whole world’s fledgling economic recovery.

    Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1975336,00.html#ixzz1GNRjgjt9

    Being from the southeastern United Staes, I’ve witnessed many entire communities in Florida which were built with millions of free money…which now stand empty. Once can drive for hours and see them all along the roadways. When the ‘bubble burst’…they were unsellable. It’s really sad. But that was during such inflated realistate pricing where banks were mortgaging mobile homes sitting on a plot of ground just larger than the mobile home itself…for $250,000. TALK ABOUT INFLATED REALISTATE!!

    The ghost towns in China are just the result of realstate speculation gone amuck…..just like in Florida…though Florida’s is on a smaller scale. Just more signs of the times. From what we are seeing around the globe..concerning economies…natural disasters, and so forth…CHINA’S ‘BUBBLE’ WILL BURST…..casusing further economic chaos around the globe. COUNT IT ALL JOY!

  6. You gotta be kidding! They will have any decrease compensated in no time. There is no one to populate them? They still have big problems with people leaving the country side for the cities. They just have to redirect those and those cities will be full in no time.
    These cities seem to be high-tech and deliberately left empty.
    Are they expecting the relocation of a huge number of people due to catastrophes? I had a very strange dream a week ago. I dreamed reading a newspaper story that China would buy 24 million cows on the world market. My thoughts were:”It is starting, they do expect a global catastrophe!”
    Do these cities look like for slaves? How much of China would be in danger by a tsunami that happened to Japan yesterday?

    • that is a thought. maybe they are planning to relocate people in case of disaster. That would demonstrate concern for its people.

      Not like the American government, who builds places for itself with taxpayer money, and will not let the citizens in for shelter.

  7. These cities will be a international project to house millions of homeless, including Americans. They have obviously worked out where will be safe after some occurance and remote places appear to be the answer. Don’t knock these cities you may get a nice room. Better than a tent in a field.

  8. gyod “Are they expecting the relocation of a huge number of people due to catastrophes?”

    I think you have just nailed it…but more so the elite and government then your ordinary citizen….

  9. If these cities are built for relocation of MILLIONS of people in an emergency, how would they do that? Is that really probable? Yes, we have empty residential/towns here in the U.S, very sad, but is the situation in China the same? Are they in billions of dollars in debt to anyone? We don’t even use our empty towns for the homeless or victims of disasters, why do we think they would?! It would be easier to evaluate and explain if it were a matter of glutenous over bullding. I don’t think the expert economists would be pondering as they are if that is really the case. I agree these dwellings are for the elite and the people needed to carry out the daily work for the elitist’s lifestyle. Afterall, they will need “worker bees”, servants, slaves, and whomever else (I shudder to think!) they will need to carry out their hedonist lifestyle. If the Chinese elite see themselves as the eventual world power, how would they want to live and excersise that ppower?…I pray fior all…Come soon, sweet Jesus, come!

    • well said Elle, hope you are ok.

      I was hoping this-Japan earthquake-would be the last of it..but “sensing” that this is only the beginning of more earthquakes being at least 8.9 and worse…birth pangs are increasing for sure.

      • if their plan is to eliminita the half of popullation on Earth, you should be the next. Dont worry, death is not the end!? you happy?

    • That these cities are build to house the (Chinese) Elites makes a lot of sense to me. The Elites all over the world work together to build their utopia in which they will live like gods. Communism around the world, also in China has been implemented by the world wide elite. The elites in the USA financed (with tax payer money) the implementation of communism in China, Russia and elsewhere. Communism suits the elites the best, because it is the ultimate control tool to manage the masses and to be able sit as gods above the rest of the sheeple.

      These cities are most likely build to house the Elites, and the many servants they need to live like gods. Off course: will GOD allow them to come this far in their evil plan to rule the world?

      Let’s pray the Lord will totally overthrow their plans!

      Pray For The Peace Of Jerusalem, They Will Prosper Who Love Thee.

    • lol

  10. Hi Lyndsey! Thanks, I’m ok, hoping you and yours are ok, too. Yes, I think the birth pangs are in full force. Calif. is apparently on a related plate that slipped and caused the epic Japan quake. The possible Calif. quake is now predicted to have a seismic reading of 9.9!!! And currenty, there is detructive flooding in the east and midwest. IF China wants to take over the U.S. they better hurry before they have nothing more than our mess!! Blessings to all!

    • Hey Elle,

      Was wondering if the million of dead fish in California have anything to do with the Japan earthquake or an impending earthquake for California?

      I have learned that we should look to nature-birds and wild life to find out what is going on with our weather etc…so wondering if the dead fish are telling us that something is about to happen or already happened (underneath the oceans’ surface) that will soon affect the fault line…..

      most importanly, Are you able to leave if you need to?

      • I do monitor the finches and birds I feed outside the house. As I type there’s none, but I hope they come out of hiding soon. Trouble is, my husband and I think they’re a bit messed up b/c snow melts almost completely, then -screech! we get dumped with snow and wind again, and I struggle a bit keeping the bird feeders full, with as less snow as possible.

        I was having a hard time the other day. Drank lots of cups of tea to keep me calmed down, plus natural supplements. I just wanted to burst out of this country and go back to PR where it’s hot all the time and it does get hotter; but I know what I get.

        Yep when I get CROWS feeding off my bird seed, that is unusual. Then again, I had once a red-tailed HAWK land on top of it! Looked straight at me through the window, squeaking at me. Mind boggling!!!

  11. Marianne,

    I know we also spoke about water that is being carried out of the USA to China in water bladders.

    Well it maybe something else we should look at. What I found is
    they don’t have enough clean water for their people and animals.

    http://www.infowars.com/shocker-feminizing-uranium-fluoride-lithium-in-water-to-be-exposed-on-ventura-tv-show/

    I still don’t get it?

  12. Hi Marianne,

    While reading the different responses to your post about the vacant cities in China, I got an increasing impression about how evil the rulers in China really are. It’s not a coincidence this country is called “land of the Dragon”.

    Let me share something Peter and I discerned spiritually about the part of the world Australia is located:

    We lived in the Western Hemisphere our entire life (40+ years) till November 2010 when we moved to Australia and landed in Perth where we lived the first month. We sensed that we really had left the West, and had moved into an area of the world were much darker spiritual forces are ruling then over the Western part of the world. We also sensed to be under the influence of the spiritual rulers placed over China, but not as heavy as when we would actually have lived in China. But their evil influence was clearly felt by us. Quite oppressive, I’d say! Very uncomfortable.

    I believe God is using the Chines rulers to punish the West, especially the USA, like He used evil rulers to punish Israel for their disobedience and idolatry. One of the things God allows to happen to any nation turning from Him is to give them over to stupidity. The West should know better concerning the evil regime in China, instead they are cosing up with this country. Off course, the Elites in the West are in bed with the Elites in China, but the vast majority of the citizens, and people in leadership positions (not belonging to the Elite) are being fooled hook, line and sinker when it comes to China. That’s because the vast majority of citizens do not want to obey and serve God, but go for convenience, and a self indulgent lifestyle. The Elites can only do what they want, if the citizens of countries do not serve God.

    We should pray earnestly to be found worthy to escape the things coming on the earth and to stand before the Son of Man!

    The Lord is at the door!

  13. Do I wish China lets the people of Japan to live there? YES. They’re country is a mess, and rebuilding is gonna take years. Four passenger trains are still unaccounted for!

    Is it gonna happen as a huge act of mercy-literally or hypocritically? I.DON’T.THINK.SO.

  14. BTW off topic question: Have you had a spike with hits/visitor counts? I have, and I have not covered Governor Palin’s recent news as of yet. What is interesting, is that when I switched to Spanish one afternoon, it went double and a half.

    Apparently there’s some thirst for more information; either related to Japan with the Latin America community, or with Japan and that’s it. My Dashboard tells me so.

    I went over to HotAir to ask around if I should create a sister site in Spanish, b/c posting dual language for more than once would make the blog look weird. Several ppl want me to create a sister site in Spanish. Problem is: I am a team of ONE. And I dunno if WordPress could give me a hand to duplicate everything and just post away in Spanish.

    I would love your feedback, since you have lots of experience (from what I see here). Hugs, Johanna

    • hi Johanna

      Not sure what to say about wordpress. YOu could have separate pages in Spanish..if a sister site, then change the name of the blog, and the titles of the posts. So it looks different.

      also what might be easier…there is a function in google that permits people to translate your page……if you added a spanish button, people could read your blog in spanish and you would not have to do any extra work.

      http://translate.google.com/translate_tools

      I get spikes when there are earthquakes or other disasters. People then are looking for answers.

  15. Thank you so much Marianne! xoxo I was just checking the WP forums for answers and WordPress.com doesn’t have a problem with it.

  16. FYI and maybe you can add it to your website. Google Translator has JavaScript and it won’t work as given by code. Try this website it will help thousands-your content is incredible:

    http://onecoolsitebloggingtips.com/2011/02/14/translation-widget-for-wordpress-com-blogs/

    Your friend (I hope so), Johanna

  17. Marianne

    Hi. Any chance you could put a right hand link for ‘off topic’ blog contributions to let the ‘on topic’ contributions flow. Just an idea.

    • i only have reply and regular comment boxes. If possible to do what you say, this whole page, and other pages, would look like a family tree over a thousand generations. everyone seems to get off topic at some point.

  18. The Chinese government are not evil any more than the US or UK government are evil. They are just following their reasoning like we all do. If you could only save one in a thousand people what would you do?

    • hi Davie

      All governments seem to be secular, and not godly, now. China has many human rights issues. What is “reasonable’ to the government may be harmful to the citizens. But then, as you say, this can be true of any government. I do not know why the ghost cities are there. It might be that they are thinking more of their citizens than the West is, for cases of emergency.

  19. VERY IMPORTANT A MUST READ

    Blog Entry EARTHQUAKE WARNING FROM RUSSIAN INSTITUTE of PHYSICS of the EARTH Mar 13, ’11 3:56 PM
    by Janet for everyone

    EARTHQUAKE WARNING FROM RUSSIAN INSTITUTE of PHYSICS of the EARTH

    Posted by Real News Reporter on March 12th, 2011

    A new report released today in the Kremlin prepared for Prime Minister Putin by the Institute of Physics of the Earth, in Moscow, is warning that the America’s are in danger of suffering a mega-quake of catastrophic proportions during the next fortnight (14 days) with a specific emphasis being placed on the United States, Mexico, Central America and South American west coast regions along with the New Madrid Fault Zone region.

    This report further warns that catastrophic earthquakes in Asia and the sub-continent are, also, “more than likely to occur” with the 7.3 magnitude quake in Japan today being “one of at least 4 of this intensity” to occur during this same time period.

    Raising the concerns of a mega-quake occurring, this report says, are the increasing subtle electromagnetic signals that are being detected in the Earth’s upper atmosphere over many regions of the World, with the most intense being over the US Western coastal and Midwest regions.

    Important to note are that Russian and British scientists are at the forefront of predicting earthquakes based on these subtle electromagnetic signals and have joined in an effort to put satellites in space to detect more of them.

    More ominously in this report are Russian scientists confirming the independent analysis of New Zealland mathematician and long-range weather forecaster, Ken Ring, who predicted the deadly Christchurch quake and this week issued another warning of a quake to hit on or about March 20th.

    Ring explains his methodology for predicting earthquakes as follows:

    “The planets very much affect the earth, indirectly, by having an effect on the Sun. Some planets are very large. If the Sun was a basketball the gas giants Jupiter and Saturn would be the size of grapefruits, and the Earth would be, on that scale, the size of a peppercorn.

    Jupiter and Saturn cause extra tides on the Sun when they get on either side of the Sun (as with Moon – Earth-Sun when the moon is full) and when these gas giants get on the same side as the Sun, (as with Earth -Moon – Sun when the moon is new). These greater solar tides become sunspot activity and solar flares and can be understood as akin to the increase in tides caused by the Moon when it too gets alongside Earth or opposite Earth.

    At the moment we have Jupiter and Saturn on either side of the Sun and creating a tug of war with Earth in the middle. That started last September and will continue until about May. In September the Earth was right in line with Jupiter, Saturn and the Sun too.

    That’s why there were several 7+ earthquakes around, it wasn’t just us.

    For instance there was one in Pakistan on the same day as Christchurch. This Jupiter/Saturn alignment continues until about May, and the Earth comes back into line as well in March. It is why there may be an extreme event, perhaps a large earthquake, around 20 March, which is when the Moon may be again in a trigger position.”

    According to this report, however, where Ring is correct in assessing blame for our Earth’s earthquakes on the Sun and Planets, his substituting of Perigen Spring Tides (also known as King Tides) for the low pressure systems associated with them may be incorrect.

    The mention in this report of massive low pressure systems being associated with catastrophic earthquakes is especially dire to the United States Midwestern region, which even today is continuing to be pounded by horrific rainfall amounts, and most especially impacting the New Madrid Fault Zone State of Arkansas which has suffered over 800 earthquakes in the past 6 months alone.

    Equally in danger, this report continues, is the South American Nation of Bolivia which has, likewise, suffered catastrophic low pressure system storms that in the past week have killed over 52 people.

    Most ominous in this report, though, is its warning that the fault-riddled State of California may be about to suffer its most catastrophic earthquake in decades as new reports for this region show the mass death of millions of fish [photo bottom left] is now occurring, and just like the mass stranding of whales on New Zealland beaches days prior to the February 22nd destruction of Christchurch.

    Making the situation for our Planet even grimmer are the reports that our Sun is continuing to spew forth massive solar flares, the latest warned to hit our Earth today or tomorrow thus prompting the Hermanus Space Weather Warning Center (SWWC) to issue a Solar Flare warning for the Southern Hemisphere.

    Interesting to note in all of these events is the United States Army announcing this week that it is holding a rare training event involving the US Military, the CIA, Canadian officers, US Treasury and State departments, the US Agency for International Development, the Defense Threat Readiness Agency and the International Red Cross between March 21-25 at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, and which should the worst happen they will certainly be prepared for it.

    As this report concludes, that as of yet, “no firmly reliable” method for predicting earthquakes has been scientifically recognized, it is well worth noting the too many to be ignored anomalous coincidences leading up to catastrophic mega-quakes are breaking out all over the World and should only be ignored at ones peril.

    In other words, it is always best to be prepared should disaster strike, wherever the warning comes from.

    Tags: disasters
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  20. Hi Lyndsey, I’m not sure the dead fish specifically warn of earthquakes, per say. I do believe that the dead fish and bird populations ARE a warning sign of the end times…the toxic environments are obviously not adaptable by wildlife anymore. The best earthquake warning that seems reasonable is that we, Calif. are on living on a danger zone “plate”, that is clear! We are also very close to San Oneofry Nuclear Plant, approx. 50 mi.away. It’s only built to withstand a 7.0 quake!!! I could move I quess, but it is not economically feasable at thiis time, thanks for your cincerm! It’s almost surreal and extremely sad to see our earth destruct…but the Lord is coming…we must repent and sing with joy….shalom…..

  21. I read the earth’s core is moving magnetic north 40 miles a year, and this has something to do with eartquakes. Not just the Sun, and moon.

    Labor pains getting closer, and more painfull?

  22. Beware that as we discuss and speculate what we think is happening around the world, we are not calling a person or a people group or a nation evil because of our prejudice. Afterall can one person represent any nation? Can we claim that we have total understanding of the work of any nation? Most of the time we are all just guessing. In all nations there are people serving God, and in all nations there are people doing evil. Let us seek God for understanding of what is going on, while not forgetting that if we don’t have love, we have nothing. Let us be humble and have a heart after Jesus. Guessing can easily lead to fruitless labour, all talk and no action. Bless you all and pray that we will all grow in love and knowledge and understanding and wisdom in Christ.

  23. The time to panic is when the news reports come from officials whilst they are being offered ‘something to eat and light refreshments’ !!

  24. * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWbSyvgES30
    Who can stop them? Nobody? So they (the evil) ask us – human beings, which way next? good question! thank you! I think about all this shitty life here: WHAT HUMANS DO HERE ON EARTH? EARTHLIGS! We eat meat? OK, we eat each other? Do we deserve this?*

    Some might say a big YES. Ask yourself now, if you do support earthligs.
    Have you seen this movie Earthligs? I will not wonder if your g00gle will not find it, you know, the propaganda dont want you to see that.. like 0b1m1 D5C5ption

  25. New places to live after WW3?

  26. …hey, did anybody watch “The Event”…speak about conditioning…anyway, they showed empty neighborshoods and guess what they were for…when the aliens come, they need a nice place to stay!!! Away from us humans.
    …I am so excited to be a child of God…nothing can separate us from Him…nothing!

    • I couldn’t find what you are referring to at imdb. There is a movie, which may depict it very well. It is called “district 9″.

  27. There is a great movie which dipicts it, it’s called “The News”.

  28. I live in China and have traveled and lived here in a few cities. I am from the US. The Government is thinking about taking care of their people here. I think the plan is to let people have a place to live if they only make 1000 RMB a month, then you can rent a place for 900 RMB’s. A lot of people only make about 1000 RMB’s a month, so many will get a place to live without having to make a lot of money. After all cheap labor is China’s natural resource. Believe me it is plentiful. Yes Cheap labor. Also I hear that people from all over the world are buying up real estate here to flip it. I guess they have a lot of money and want more of a return than .001 % on it from banks. Just a guess on the % rate, my point is that no one is getting rich from savings accounts. In Zhuhai, China I heard that some apartment are going for 750,000 US Dollars, don’t know the truth on that, but 1st hand I know people who are into real estate and live in Brussels. The reason the buildings are empty is because no one can afford to live in them. They are bought up by rich people to turn a profit.My guess is that building buildings is good for the people with jobs building them, not to mention the construction companies. I have seen these buildings being built up close. Talk about bam bam thank you mam. cheap o. My mama told me poor people have poor ways. She is right. China is very much a poor country, at least most of China.The only really evil people I see here I would see anywhere in the world. They are called rich people.Drunk on the wine of that great whore.The other rich people are the kings of the earth that she has sex with.Has anybody ever thought that the “RED” beast that arises in the last time just might be China? The pope ain’t got nothing on China when it comes to red. These people eat, sleep and drink the color RED. Here is a tid bit for you there are 2 temples in China that are dedicated to the worship of only one thing. The DRAGON. Their is no difference from the word dragon and serpent.

    • hi Lanny

      You shed some light on the cities. Thanks. Although I do not see how someone who makes 1000 could rent a place for 900. There is no money left for food and other things.

      You are right about greed. The government here is building luxury underground military bases where only THEY can go in an emergency. The ones who paid all those billions to pay for them are not allowed inside.

      It looks like the dragon works all over the world.

  29. Hi, I just think I saw those figures on TV. It’s a big problem in China, no one can afford to live in a house. So you need help from a family member most likely. Family is God in China, they worship one another. Probably the way you get a lot of stuff is you lie about it, just like in America. Most agencies don’t care because they gotta give it to someone. I have personally reported welfare fraud in America and nothing was done about it. I can only speculate about a lot of things. As you know the bible calls the governments of the world, a beast. A beast is only concerned about itself. If it does anything for you, it’s because it benefits it self. The best government is a dictatorship one, and the one who runs it needs to be very righteous himself, therefore will the people rejoice, if he is corrupt, then woe to the people. Our only hope is the return of Jesus to rule with an Iron fist. Some people have to be made to do the right thing for their own good. A lot of people don’t realize it but China is 60% democratic and 40% Communist.

  30. About the coming of Christ .I believe that there is a misconception about what the coming of our Savor means for all of us .Does anyone really understand what that really mean for all of us? The Lord at His arrivals brings with Him fire .It is the end of the world. I ex. Everyone will die and no one will escape the wrath of the Lamb .So to wish for the coming of our Savior: it is not proper because life on earth as we know it will all end .And it is only after the first resurrection that the Lord will be i the midst of His people and not before .We must pray that everyone will be to repent before the Lord’s arrivals .For tit will be a terrible site to witness.This time Jesus does not come o die for us but rather He comes as a judge to judge all the nations ,and only after resurrection will there be one Government lead by The 44.000 of saints who did not fornicate on earth but remained virgins for the Lamb. It means priests and other saints not regular man.All of this information is in the bible I cannot give you references to which page because I do not have time to look it up, but know that it in Revelation and know all of this by heart.

    • Rosa
      I have understood the 144000 which are sealed to be from Israel, and not the church, and I believe there is also a reference in the OT that they will be the firstborn children from the twelve tribes of Israel that have not reached the age of accountability. The passages escape me. I wonder what your thoughts are on this.

      • <>
        New International Version

        144,000 Sealed

        1After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3“Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

        5From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

        from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

        from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

        6from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

        from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

        from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

        7from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

        from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

        from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

        8from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

        from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

        from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

        The Great Multitude in White Robes

        9After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10And they cried out in a loud voice:

        “Salvation belongs to our God,

        who sits on the throne,

        and to the Lamb.”

        11All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12saying:

        “Amen!

        Praise and glory

        and wisdom and thanks and honor

        and power and strength

        be to our God for ever and ever.

        Amen!”

        13Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

        14I answered, “Sir, you know.”

        And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15Therefore,

        “they are before the throne of God

        and serve him day and night in his temple;

        and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.

        16Never again will they hunger;

        never again will they thirst.

        The sun will not beat upon them,

        nor any scorching heat.

        17For the Lamb at the center of the throne will be their shepherd;

        he will lead them to springs of living water.

        And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

        http://niv.scripturetext.com/revelation/7.htm

        Revelation 14:1 Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads.

        Revelation 14:3 And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn the song except the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth

  31. Hi, Rosa, love your comment, thanks. Just a few thoughts, my grandmother was JW. So I know where you are going with that 144,000 thingy, just don’t agree.I believe there will be so many saved that you won’t be able to count them. Like the stars of heaven and the sand on the sea shore. Go ahead try it. Not going to happen. This was the promise to Abraham right? However using your own words for a brief conversation. “Everyone dies and our Saviour.” Jesus said not everyone will see death. Put your money on a remnant being saved from Israel. As our Saviour he is coming back to save us from the deception of Satan, who has everything really screwed up. A Saviour usually helps something or saves it from something. It’s a mute point if he just kills everyone. Perhaps a little more Tantao (research) on the word Saviour and not everyone will taste death. No offense. I will add it won’t be a cake walk for most people, but I am like my father Abraham, I am looking for something better than what I got now, and like Abraham in this life I have a lot, but it just doesn’t satisfy me. Don’t forget at his coming we will indeed be changed in a flash, and we will be with him. Why would I not look forward to that? Actually it does not get any better than that. I will be satisfied.

  32. Hi, Rosa, love your comment, thanks. Just a few thoughts, my grandmother was JW. So I know where you are going with that 144,000 thingy, just don’t agree.I believe there will be so many saved that you won’t be able to count them. Like the stars of heaven and the sand on the sea shore.

    You are missing the point .My post is not about how many will be saved but ,about the the ones who will rule the planet earth .

    as for the 144,000 to be Jewish and from the 12 tribes of Israel .I agree but not the fact that they died as children .No they lived to be of old age, but like I mention before were priests saints who did not dirt their royal robes.about the 12 tribes of Israel I should mention that one of them separated and was spread all over the world .So it might mean that some of us belong to the 12 tribes.as there are Jews everywhere on earth.

  33. OK, sorry I missed your point. Let me see if I understand you this time. Your point is who will rule the earth. They died as children? 144,000? One of the 12 got shattered, and didn’t get dirty. Also I might be a Jew. Yeah I have heard this before, it may be or it may not be. I thought your point was that in the day of the Lord it will be a bad time for Christians and they should not ought to want it to come so eagerly. I have often heard this before also. Actually I have heard so many things that I am often confused about a lot of things. I think Satan has muddied the water a lot.My point was If I do stand before the son of man in that day and I have washed the dirt off my robes, then it’s going to be a most happy day for me and those who love his appearing and who have made themselves ready. He will admire us and we will admire him, when we are at last together. Saved not killed with the wicked. As in the days of Lot so shall it be.???? The righteous, the wicked and fire. The Angels said to Lot, hurry up boy I can’t destroy these cities until you are out of here. Will it be different? No it will be as it was in the days of Lot so shall it be when the son of man comes.

  34. What is the purpose of the city like this? is this build for the fear of world end by flood or desaster. or is there any intension for the future redymade city?

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