I am not good at math and when I saw this site I thought you could “interpret” in laymans terms what it all means…It also had to do with what everyone is debating about and thought it would add to the conversation…:)

Now, I did see the correlation with Jacob and Rachel. This one I understood. The way I understood it, is that Israel’s fight/work for peace to gain Jerusalem is Jacob’s fight/work for marriage to Rachel. As you know , there is alot of symbolism thruout the scriptures in regards to dates, numbers etc…40 days and 40 nights….3 days….6 days the earth was created and then on the 7th He rested….Now what throws me off is when the scriptures say “hour” and then others intrepret that to mean a “day”; or a “week” actually means a year or something else, I don’t know….With Daniel’s 70 weeks I am totally lost….

I was just wondering about the 3 weeks for Jacob’s trouble…where did she get that?

Otherwise, I think we are close to the time when most people will recognize jacob’s trouble, just from the events taking place.

Have a great weekend.

I only copied the above from this link:
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/feb2010/sherryv219.htm

I was trying to find where Jersualem had declared it officially Jacobs trouble…I remember Abigail I believe had posted it on here somewhere that Jerusalem had made it official…..I came upon the above by accident and thought it fit in to what everyone else is posting here…and wanted to know what everyone thought about it…it was written by Sherry Vance.

The book of daniel says Jacob’s trouble is 3 1/2 years…..or a time, times and half a time….it says nothing about 3 weeks. Revelation confirms this with 42 months, or 1260 days.

I do not see any evidence that the life of Jacob and how he got married is related to the last days.

if 3 weeks, why not 4 weeks or 5 weeks, if that does not work out?

see what I mean?

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I am just going to send this letter I recently wrote to someone asking me questions. It’s sort of an overall view of the whole timeline (summarized.) I’d like you to read it and then see what you think. Maybe it will give someone a different perspective and understanding.

Unbeknownst to most people, the time of Jacob’s Trouble entailed THREE WEEKS, with the last Week, the 70th Week (7 years) being known as “The Time of Jacob’s Trouble from which Jacob shall be saved out of.”….(with the coming of the Messiah – or, better known as the Second Coming of Christ.)

The point is, Jacob’s Trouble had to start “sometime.” How would you know when it started? You would know when the issue of the trouble with Jacob/Israel became the world-wide focus with “Jerusalem becoming a cup of trembling to the world.” Isn’t that where we are now? First was the birth of Israel (born in a day) in 1948. When Israel was 19 (following the analogy of the first time Israel became a nation under Moses) the age of 19 meant MATURITY – and it was also the age of NATIONAL SERVICE in Israel. It was also determined that those who were under 20 years old would be the only ones to GO INTO THE PROMISED LAND, with the rest of the people having to die off during the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness because of their rebellion against God. In other words, there would be a generation who would “pass away” and not go into the promised land which was covenanted to them by God Himself.

Well, not surprisingly, within one month of when Israel was about to turn 20 years old, the 1967 Six Day War occurred and Israel re-unified Jerusalem!!!! First time in 2,000 years Jerusalem came under the sovereignty of the Jews. The FIG TREE had sprouted (1948) came of age/matured at 19-20 yrs, old, took national responsibility and reunified Jerusalem, their Eternal Capital!!!! Effectively, this marked the BEGINNING OF THE GENERATION THAT WOULD NOT PASS AWAY BUT WOULD SEE ALL THINGS FULFILLED!

Coming right down the timeline…….

Now, when would Jacob’s Trouble begin? Well, there has always been trouble for Israel – constant wars which they did not initiate, but which God used to continually increase their land mass (think pre- 48 & 67 borders). However, when the FOCUS came to rest on JERUSALEM, then we should have known it was the beginning of the end. Israel had been content to let Jordan remain in charge of Jerusalem. But during the 1967 war Jordan sided with her Arab brothers and Israel was forced to take Jerusalem back in defense. However, General Moshe Dyan was responsible for GIVING BACK THE TEMPLE MOUNT – for two reasons actually. One he was trying to show a gesture of “good will” (yuck, puke) and two, Moshe Dyan was not a biblical or religious person. He didn’t care about any of the prophecies concerning the Temple Mount or the Temple, etc. For that reason, meaning the reason of GIVING BACK THE TEMPLE MOUNT, God caused this LAST generation to again “wander in the wilderness” for another 40 years! If you doubt that, than take note that in the year 2007 (40 years) the 70th Week of Daniel began on Rosh HaShannah! That meant Israel’s 2nd set of 40 years had ended and something spectacular was about to begin! It would now be all about ISRAEL! It was the Sabbatical Year of 2007 – the beginning of the last week of Jacob’s Trouble FROM WHICH JACOB/ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED OUT OF!……in other words, the 70th Week of Daniel began on Rosh HaShannah, Sept. 13, 2007.

But I’m getting ahead of myself. How would anybody know when the Three Weeks of Jacob’s Trouble began? Answer> when the focus of the world turned to Jerusalem and the issue of Israel’s right to exist in her land covenanted to her by God came into direct view – and opposition to world opinion. When did that happen?
With the Oslo Accords in 1993. It was the first time the Arab nations “acknowledged Israel’s right to exist” – but not really. Their Charter still called for (and still does) the annihilation of Israel. The reason for the Oslo Accord was actually the Arabs trying to negotiate to get their Palestinian State. (This had actually been offered to them back in 1947, before the State of Israel was voted on by the UN. They turned it down. They wanted it ALL….but that’s no different than later when Arafat turned down 95% of the West Bank at the Wye Agreement.) Oh well.

The Oslo Accords were signed ON Rosh HaShannah 1993…..a 7 year agreement, during which time multiple upon multiple meetings were attended to try to bring about a negotiated agreement to Palestinian Statehood. The analogy of this to the historical first week of Jacob’s Trouble was that Jacob DESIRED Rachel and agreed to work for 7 years for her. In 1993, Israel DESIRED PEACE and agreed in the Oslo Accord to work 7 years toward that end.

The Second Week of Jacob’s Trouble began on Rosh HaShannah 2000 with the Palestinian Uprising, better known as the Intifada. Do you recall that Ariel Sharon went up on the Temple Mount and there were riots? Do you recall the next 7 years of bus bombings, suicide bombers, Israel under seige with terrorists? I was there. I was in Israel at least once or twice every year during that time. I SAW it. I was there and saw the barricaded public places, CNN set up on every corner in order not to miss yet another bombing, I saw every building, restaurant, grocery store, McDonald’s for heaven’s sake!, armed with security guards and check points in and out of malls and intersections, etc. The Sbarro’s Pizza on Ben Yehuda Street was bombed shortly after I left – I had just eaten pizza there! This was also the time when Israel started building The Fence….which was actually a literal (electronic) fence on 95% of the borders with electronic WALLS (like along the highways separating roadways from residential areas) along the other 5% of land running between Arab villages and Israeli villages to keep the Arab snipers from shooting into the Israeli towns and killing passersby traveling on the roads. (I was with a group of Jews one day visiting soldiers at a checkpoint opposite Tulkarem across from Netanya (where the Passover massacre occurred.) We were handing out candy & snacks to the soldiers while Arab snipers were shooting right then at the Wall from inside Tulkarem!…..(and no, I didn’t tell my husband when I called home that night!….but he did call me a few days later when he’d heard about another bus bombing in Jerusalem knowing I was there and that I sometimes took the bus.)

In the historical analogy, Jacob still desired Rachel and willingly kept working for her, but it was a miserable second set of 7 years which he was surely somewhat disgruntled about, wouldn’t you think? Well, with the fence up, much of terror was thwarted. There was no real peace as 2006 ended, but Israel had settled into a kind of peace which they themselves had worked toward in building the fence. The real issue, though, was Israel had backed off the politic negotiations for the most part. No progress was seen and none seemed that important to pursue in light of the internal problems between Fatah and Hamas. WHO was Israel supposed to be dealing with anyway, Hamas, the terrorist organization which had been “democratically elected”? It was, still is, a struggle between the Arabs themselves as to who will be the spokesman or negotiator with the ‘evil Zionist occupiers’! And so the Second Week of Jacob’s Trouble ended. There were no more negotiations, no other “contract” between Israel and the Arabs….just like Laban & Jacob.

The Third Week of Jacob’s Trouble began on Rosh HaShannah 2007 – a Sabbatical Year in the cycles of 7. It began relatively quiet. Not much seemed to be happening. WHY? Back to the analogy>>> In the first year of the third week, Jacob had already received Rachel. Jacob was no longer working for Laban….he had fulfilled his contract. He had worked for 14 years to get Rachel and now there was finally no more “contract” to labor under. But Jacob remained in Laban’s household for another year (which is that year which constitutes the 21 years of the three weeks since Jacob stated he’d been with Laban (under contract) for 20 years), however he was not under any working contract obligation. In that first year of the Third Week we call the Honeymoon Year, Rachel conceived and bore Joseph. Jacob wanted to “go back to his country then and asked Laban’s permission. Laban entreated Jacob to STAY because as long as Jacob was in his household, Laban was “blessed” (materially.) So Jacob agreed to stay on with Laban if he could “increase Laban’s flocks and herds and build his own inheritance from them.” Jacob worked another 6 years toward this end before finally leaving:
(7 yr. contract (Leah) + 7 yr. contract (Rachel) + 1 year in Laban’s household yet no contract + 6 yr. laboring for inheritance/wages/economics = 21 years…..in other words, Israel worked under the lied-to-contract of the Oslo Accords from 1993-2000 and didn’t get the desire of his heart – Peace. Israel labored long and hard during the next 7 years laboring again for Peace while trying to stay alive, although they still didn’t get real peace…..it did quiet down thanks to the Fence.

Now to plug the analogy into these present days >> In 2007, a Sabbatical Year, the start of the 70th Week, Third Week of Jacob’s Trouble, the first year (2007-2008) was quiet, just as it was for Rachel & Jacob due to his not having to labor under contract to Laban. But at the very beginning of the second year of the Third Week/70th Week ON ROSH HaSHANNAH 2008, we experienced a global ECONOMIC meltdown – the stock market closed at 777.68 !!! Did the three sevens get your attention? The analogy is a perfect fit – God is showing something here!!!!!! Three Sevens!!!!! The attention turned to ECONOMICS right on schedule….with SIX YEARS TO GO!!!!

This is the analogy of the Three Weeks of Jacob’s Trouble. With what you know now and what the current situation is, and who is now in charge, and with all the hindsight plugged into Israel as the Fig Tree, her birth, her growth, her national service and responsibility of reunifying Jerusalem and the start of the generation which would not pass away (as the former generation did) but will go into the Promised Land/Kingdom on Earth, HOW CAN ANYBODY NOT BELEIVE WE ARE WHERE WE ARE!!!!????

The reason we are where we are, is because this SET TIME had to start “someplace” and we see now when it did. I will tell you, Phil Rogers and I have had this timeline since way back in 2001. But we didn’t have complete understanding back then. We believed that the Second Coming would be in 2007 – not in 2014! Why? Well, we knew back in 2000 that Israel’s Rabbis had declared the ending of 6,000 years/man’s 6 days according to the Jewish calendar. If the 6th day (1,000 years for a day) was ended, it meant the 7th day had begun. Now understand that God gave man dominion over the earth (usurped by satan, of course, in the Garden) for 6,000 years, or 6 days. When the 7th Day came around it would be GOD’S DAY!….the SABBATH DAY.

It stands to reason, if the 6th day has ended, the 7th day has begun. What would happen in the 7th Day? Well, the Jewish day begins at sundown…..the evening and the morning were the first day, etc……but on the 7th day, there is no such designation. There is no mention of evening nor morning. That means the Lord’s Day, the 7th Day goes on for as long as the Lord wants it to go on. Since the 6th day ended and the 7th day began, the Lord has now taken over…..what has He taken over? HIS PLAN TO BRING ALL OF HIS CREATION AND HIS PEOPLE TO REDEMPTION! Didn’t He say He will raise us up in the Third Day? This is the Third Day….it’s been 2 days (2,000 years) since Jesus was here. He has, in all this time, been building His Church/His Temple. Now it’s time to redeem His people Israel.

The 7th Day began in 2000…….world attention started turning toward ISRAEL……Jerusalem came to the table in the form of a cup of trembling. Jacob began ‘wrestling’ with more and more ‘trouble’ but he is prevailing, hanging on until he gets his blessing.

The 70th Week/Time of Jacob’s Trouble began in 2007. In the years that commenced on Rosh HaShannah 2007, we have seen the focus of the world turn to Israel, we have seen the focus on economics, we have seen the man-of-sin elected, we have even seen his turning away from Israel as our ally in the Middle East (remember > I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you saith the Lord)…..and in only 13 months the world will be at the MID-POINT of the 70th Week and the start of the time of great tribulation! We have about 11 months to go before we are swept off the scene before satan is cast out of Heaven. People are not seeing this. Most people sense something troubling and foreboding, but they don’t know why.

Anyway, Phil and I didn’t understand that 2000 to 2007 was NOT the 70th Week as we thought it was because we were in the 7th day. Hindsight shows us where we went wrong. But the timeline itself was NOT wrong! It is still on schedule! At the end of the last week/Third Week/70th Week, the Lord will return…..in a Sabbatical Year…….with the following year being the Year of Jubliee – when all of His people are back in the land allotted for each Tribe. Creation will be redeemed, His people will be redeemed and the Kingdom will commence.

Some people have been speculating that the 70th Week may somehow be “split”, but I don’t believe the 70th Week will be split in any way. Here’s proof of why:

The 70th Week is a period of 7 years….seven regular years like any other.
The reason the Week cannot be “separated” is this:
The events described in Revelation follow an exact timetable as Daniel set forth. There is mention of 1335 days, 1290 days, 1260 days, 42 months. Now we don’t know (at first reading of Daniel or Revelation) when these days BEGIN. But if we know the timeline based on historical type and analogy (Jacob’s Three Weeks of Trouble) which is aligned to the 1993-2000-2007 scenario, then we can determine not only that we are IN the 70th Week, but we can also know the time that Christ Jesus will be crowned King of Kings because He will return and be crowned on the Feast of Trumpets at the end of the 70th Week. When is this? Sept. 25, 2014.

So now we have a known date based on Jacob’s Trouble and the Return of the Messiah saving Jacob out of it. NOW we can know how to utilize the counting till the 1335th day —- blessed is he who comes to it!!! Count backwards FROM the crowning of Jesus the Messiah on the Feast of Trumpets/Rosh HaShannah Sept. 25, 2014…….we come to Jan. 2011….the time of the Resurrection/Rapture! We can also count backwards FROM Feast of Trumpets to the 1290th Day – the day of the abomination that maketh desolate. You will see that there are 45 days between the Resurrection/Rapture and the abomination. Forty Five days in which satan has been cast to Earth, God has granted him 42 months to “continue”, the antichrist receives his head wound, satan empowers the antichrist, antichrist “appears” to resurrect from the dead, he commits the abomination, declaring himself god and demanding worship.
This occurs at the MID-POINT of the 70th Week. Meanwhile, God has put His hand of protection upon the Remnant of His people (who are still unbelieving Jews) and they have fled into the wilderness where God will keep them for the 42 months. These people are “hands off” to satan. He is enraged….so he goes after the remnant of the seed of the woman – in other words, Christ’s “seed” – those who become believers during this time. This will continue for 42 months. At the end of the 1260 days/42 months, Jesus Christ RETURNS! It isn’t yet the end of the 70th Week, however. There is an extra month of Adar in 2014. Those extra 30 days before the ending of the 70th Week will be the time that Jesus slays His enemies at Armageddon. He will stand on the Mt. of Olives which will split and the Temple Mount topography will be changed, raised up to accommodate the future Ezekiel’s Millennial Temple. A river of fresh water will spring from the Mt. of Olives earthquake and run down to the Dead Sea where the waters will be healed. Jesus will go into Bozra and lead out the Remnant, who, when they see Him, will recognize Him and mourn for Him whom they pierced. They will believe and be redeemed. The Sanhedrin, which everybody by now knows have re-convened in preparation for declaring “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord” (as Jesus prophesied), will ANNOINT Him. He will be crowned on Rosh HaShannah, coronation day of Israel’s kings and will fulfill the first of the Fall Feasts, Feast of Trumpets on Sept. 25, 2014.

Now, tell me how this 70th Week can be divided or split in any way? It will take ALL of it to accomplish God’s Plan of Redemption for the world and for His people Israel.

You know, this is probably the third, fourth, fifth time (I’ve lost count) that I’ve presented Jacob’s Trouble. The information has not changed, only the format in accordance with what someone asked about or speculated over. I’ve hoped that by re-writing it several different ways, I might reach someone who heretofore didn’t quite understand the way I previously wrote it. I welcome any questions.
Shalom, Sherry Vance

What would Iran have to do with the Temple Mount?

I have read different start dates for the Dome of the Rock. Instead of your date 689, I found one which says 683.

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:_Xq6l0668AoJ:www.bible-history.com/links.php%3Fcat%3D4%26sub%3D265%26cat_name%3DArchaeology%26subcat_name%3DJerusalem+dome+of+rock+683+bible+history+online&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

683
+1290
1973 = year of Yom Kippur war

683
+1335
2018 time of blessing

2018 – 7 = 2011 start of trouble?