Earth wobble and pole shift in Isaiah 24
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Do current noises heard around the world match the description in Isaiah?
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Earth Wobble
There is a natural wobble to the earth’s motion, but there is no audible noise associated with it.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chandler_wobble
The Chandler wobble is a small motion in the Earth‘s axis of rotation relative to the Earth’s surface, which was discovered by AmericanastronomerSeth Carlo Chandler in 1891. It amounts to 9 metres (30 ft) on the Earth’s surface and has a period of 433 days. This wobble combines with another wobble with a period of one year so that the total polar motion varies with a period of about 7 years.
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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/05/040520065656.htm
Geoff Blewitt, University of Nevada research geophysicist, has an explanation for this mysterious geo-wobble.
“The theory, which my colleagues and I have proven using GPS observations of the Earth, is that it’s likely to be caused by the surface matter being redistributed,” Blewitt said.
To make the Earth wobble, large amounts of mass need to be moved from one place to another so that the Earth is “off balance,” according to NASA-funded researcher Blewitt, who said the North Pole then adjusts to a new position to compensate.
Large amounts of water are displaced seasonally when glaciers and ice sheets melt in spring, for example. The mass shifts back when they refreeze in winter.
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Naturally occurring Pole shift
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http://www.nasa.gov/vision/earth/lookingatearth/29dec_magneticfield.html
Scientists have long known that the magnetic pole moves. James Ross located the pole for the first time in 1831 after an exhausting arctic journey during which his ship got stuck in the ice for four years. No one returned until the next century. In 1904, Roald Amundsen found the pole again and discovered that it had moved–at least 50 km since the days of Ross.
The pole kept going during the 20th century, north at an average speed of 10 km per year, lately accelerating “to 40 km per year,” says Newitt. At this rate it will exit North America and reach Siberia in a few decades.
Sometimes the field completely flips. The north and the south poles swap places. Such reversals, recorded in the magnetism of ancient rocks, are unpredictable.
They come at irregular intervals averaging about 300,000 years; the last one was 780,000 years ago. Are we overdue for another? No one knows.
Reversals take a few thousand years to complete, and during that time–contrary to popular belief–the magnetic field does not vanish. “It just gets more complicated,” says Glatzmaier.
Magnetic lines of force near Earth’s surface become twisted and tangled, and magnetic poles pop up in unaccustomed places. A south magnetic pole might emerge over Africa, for instance, or a north pole over Tahiti. Weird. But it’s still a planetary magnetic field, and it still protects us from space radiation and solar storms.
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How Isaiah’s wobble is different from the natural wobble
This is much more dramatic, devastating, and rapid than what naturally occurs.
Quotes from Isaiah 24:
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Pole shift predicted – earth rotates 180 degrees, and goes “upside down”
V 1 Behold, the LORD makes the earth empty, and makes it waste, and turns it upside down, and scatters abroad the inhabitants thereof.
Fearful Noise heard as this all happens, the sky opens up
V 18 And it shall come to pass, [that] he who flees from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.
Earth wobble is excessive
V 19 The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.
V 20 The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.
For the leaders who will hide in underground military bases at that time:
V 21 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones [that are] on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.
V 22 And they shall be gathered together, [as] prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.
When will it happen?
V23 Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.
It will happen at the 6th seal, when the Lord returns to Zion.
Rev 6: 12
And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
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Noises heard in diverse places
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Strange noise, ignore commercial at end
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booming noise in sky – Costa Rica
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around the world
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Brasil
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Hell sounds – Location?
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ITN News tries to explain science of noises
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Thoughts
Are all these videos supported by Isaiah 24?
I do not know, since I cannot confirm the source of the noises heard.
But from Isaiah’s description, the actual earth changes would sound similar to what people have on videos.
So, the videos are good to consider.
But the focus should be on the Lord and His Word, and our relationship with Him.
What will be, will be



There are so many things that it could be. I don’t know and if I try too hard and really wrap my mind around it, I lose my focus on The Lord. (It is a me thing. Others are good at this and I would love to hear ideas.)
I asked for faith increase. I asked to be taught trust, as I didn’t know what it was or what it meant. I am learning. I asked to KNOW HIM. To see Him. I pray that many others receive the increase of faith in The Lord. Real true faith. Because with out it, nothing matters.
Isaiah 24-6…Therefore hath the CURSE devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
This verse explains exactly what the curse of the earth is…. The word curse used herein is spelled ALAH in Hebrew….
The curse is also spoken of in Zech 5-1,3… It seapks of a roll (book) that goes over the etire earth and is a curse… The word CURSE here is also spelled ALAH in Hebrew….
This curse is the koran that desolates men of God’s spirit…It is the abomination that makes men desolate…
Look these verse up in Blue Letter Bible /Hebrew translation…
THE BIBLE SAYS REPEATEDLY THE EARTH WILL STAND FOREVER…
Isaiah 24:6 “curse” H423 אלה ‘âlâh (aw-law’) From H422; an imprecation: – curse, cursing, execration, oath, swearing.
Wow, that is facinating!
Thanks.
What connection (if any) do you feel there is between the book of Revelation Scroll with 7 seals and this Zech5 flying carpet (20×10 cubit) curse?
Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.
Zec 5:1-3 Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. v2 And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is 20 cubits, and the breadth thereof 10 cubits. v3 Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it.
hi 45
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-zechariah-curse/
i think the flying scroll is a missile with a nuclear warhead on top.
this would, coincide with the red horse, 2nd seal,
the nuclear war will start with Iran, islam
An exothermic avalanche of free falling isotopes certainly fits the idea of the red horse rider having of a GREAT sword.
Since this flying scroll goes across the face of the whole earth,
it raises questions of just how many ‘angry birds’ are we talking about?
one? two? a thousand? from where? to where?
But I was more curious about the ‘Do not Lie’ and ‘Do not Steal’ (fraction of the 10 commandments) written on the Zechariah flying scroll. Why these two sins are the only ones listed, thus suggesting them to be more important with regard to provoking a Heavenly Edict of a severe curse upon certain people’s homes(Zec5:4)? There is something to the spiritual aspect of this that I do not yet understand…and how that might tie into the Book of Revelation.
not sure….maybe lying and stealing are brought to a new international level of “achievement” due to the successful spread and justification of the use of the missile..Look at islam now. it lies and justifies terrorism, and blames Israel for everything.
The foundation of the earth is God’s works of creation according to Scripture..This foundation is being shanken because satan has risen up and claimed he is he god of Abraham and he created everything..This lie is shaking somes faith and they are accepting allah as the god of abraham..
The foundation of the world is that which satan did in genesis 3… This is the world that will end soon…THE EARTH WILL STAND FOREVER…Satan’s foundation will not…
Hi Marianne,
Isn’t there the possibility that the translation of the Hebrew into English here is incorrect?
Isaiah 24:1 reads as follows in the King James…….
“Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.”
The English words “and turneth” above are translated from the Hebrew “עוה”, transliterated as “`avah”, (Strong’s 5753) and its primary definitions are, “ to bend, twist, or to distort”.
The English words “it upside down” are derived from the Hebrew “פנים”, transliterated as “paniym”, (Strong’s 6440) where in maintaining the context as it would refer to the Earth, would be referring to the “surface”, rather than an actual global inversion of sorts.
To me this verse is describing the resulting upheaval as a result of severe earthquakes, which would then correlate more with what is described in the book of Revelation. To the best of my recollection, there is nothing in that book, (Revelation) that would describe the Earth rotating on its axis to the point of it turning upside down?
In regards to the various noises heard throughout the world recently, I have no idea?
However I believe, that any sounding of the Holy Shofar of El Shaddai would and will be, UNMISTAKEABLE!
Just something to consider.
Be Blessed
hi
well, that is one translation. I guess the future will do the translating for us.
2007 graphic of the acceleration of Magnetic North Pole Migration
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/geomag/image/north_dip_poles.png
Can’t find it right now on the web, but a few years ago there was a similarly related graphic which projected the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NASA_54556main_nmppath2001_med.gif into the future to arrive in Siberia by the year 2050. From the projected graphic, one could easily see the nearest proximity of the magnetic north pole being in conjunction with the spin axis north pole would occur in the mid 2020s.
Alienated, the earth turning upside down would not be like picking up the earth and turning it physically upside down, but rather that the INTERNAL magnetic field sharply changes, while the earth continues to physically spin as normal. If such a violent magnetic field takes place, then there could be severe disruptions in the world atmospheric ozone layer for a short duration until it restabilized (recalibrates itself). Should such a disruption take place in the ozone layer across the earth, then during that moment severe sunburns from the sun could occur in seconds, rather than the normal time of an hour or more. The book of Revelation does suggest such a type of event occuring, whether due to temporary ozone depletion or some other factor.
Rev 16:8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
The sounds almost (or, pretty much) sound like the track of a movie . . . Or, could the sounds possibly be from HAARP? (http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/) “The goal of this program is to further advance our knowledge of the physical and electrical properties of the Earth’s ionosphere which can affect our military and civilian communication and navigation systems.” Some people have very interesting theories as to what extent this program is actually attempting to achieve, or has achieved. (i.e. causing earthquakes, changes in weather, etc.) Either way, whether the earth undergoes a massive earthquake or the entire planet turns upside down, we will all experience a major shake up to our very core. And very soon.
JOHN 14:27 – Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you, not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be afraid.
In response to alienated:
Could it be this the second sound of the Shofar ‘Shevarim’ ?
- could be, could be not. It’s best to pray and ask G-d for discernment.
http://poleshift.ning.com/profiles/blog/show?id=3863141%3ABlogPost%3A825325&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_post
It’s really weird, I watched this video first, the narrator here talks about an African tribe called the ‘dogon’ – and after that I find some interesting notes while browsing thru my study files. I was amazed to see how the dots connect to the video and the notes. The video and the website are two different sources. Glad to share it here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQSavQ9DV-s&feature=player_embedded#!
Quote:
You’ll Never Learn This in Church:
The primitive Dogon tribe in Mali, Africa, according to their records, were visited by a being or beings called “Nommo” around 4,500 years ago.
They left images and writings of “Nommo” who specifically came from a planet that orbited the second star in the Sirius system, Sirius being the brightest star in the sky. They related that this being or beings brought down from the heavens great knowledge, which was shared with mankind. The Dogon have a map marked on a large stone, which depicts the orbital period of this apparent mythological secondary star, which they claimed has a cycle of 50 years.
Up until 1970, Europeans believed Sirius was not a double star system, contrary to the Dogon tribes’ belief. In this particular year however, a telescope was built that was powerful enough to finally see this secondary star and measure it’s orbital period, which ended up being, yes, you guessed it, 50 years.
Another name for the Nommo (which is both singular and plural) is “The Monitor” or “Monitors.” This is very similar to the term “Watchers,” beings that are referred to throughout the Bible. Daniel 4:17, “This decision is by the decree of the watchers, And the sentence by the word of the holy ones, In order that the living may know That the Most High rules in the kingdom of men…” and Jeremiah 4:16, “Make mention to the nations, proclaim against Jerusalem, That the watchers come from a far country And raise their voice against the cities of Judah.” http://www.flyingchariotministries.com/ufos.htm
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I’m wondering if this mythological secondary star is now in orbit and possibly these strange sounds do have something to do with these watchers and the apocalypse… who knows?
hi Jes
this is the same legend as nibiru, which is a dark star, with its own planets orbiting it, one or two of which would contain the “ancestors” – watchers – who were here before to colonize the earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius — 50 year twin star helix orbit
Yes Jes, you have happened upon one of the key pieces of End Time jigsaw puzzle. This is the only major heavenly sign matching the Hebrew Jubilee year. Worship of the star Sirius is a central part of upper levels of Freemasonry and Luciferianism. Sirius as the Dog Star, brightest in the night sky is iconic of Lucifer himself. If studied deep enough, what you will find is that when cultures were worshipping the Sun at the center of our solar system, the priests of those people were worshipping the Dog Star Sirius. The science fiction works of “2001 & 2010 Space Odessy” portray a new sun being birthed in our solar system. While the movie remained silent, the 2001 book named that new star ‘Lucifer’.
From a physical (non-spiritual) dimensional plane, the twin stars, Sirius A and Sirius B are so gravitationally linked in their locked helix orbit, that for one of them to separate from the other and come flying to earth, is the epitome of non-sense.
But from a spiritual point of view, it is prophesied in occult circles of this bright illumined one to come in his due season. The coming of Nibiru is not a physical star or planet, but a spiritual coming of the Christ (Biblical Antichrist or Lucifer) to earth, to rule and reign.
The fascinating part (to Biblical Jews and Christians) about the Jubilee 50 year connection with the Twin Star System of Sirius, is that our Holy God of Heaven has ‘arranged’ a meeting between both Wholesome Prophecy and Demonic Prophecy, such that all His plans are fulfilled. The overlay of both polar tips of the Spiritual Realm Principalities is coming into synchronized fulfillment at the same time !!!! Tremendously fascinating time to be alive to watch all this unfold before our eyes. Both occultists and the holy have waited eons never living to see the fulfillment, that is transpiring right in front of us!
locating Sirius in the night sky
http://www.ehow.com/how_6086096_do-locate-sirius-night-sky_.html
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2S0JiWh8iEg/0.jpg
Marianne
I feel the scripture of Isaiah 11:15 explains a possilbe goings on.
“And the LORD shall utterly destroy the tongue of the Egyptian sea; and with his mighty wind shall he shake his hand over the river, and shall strike it into seven streams, and make men go over dryshod.”
What do you suppose Gods’ hand being a drier sounds like?
I think God is preparing for war in the middle east, the battle belongs to him,
If the palaces had their spiders and weaved webs, they will fall into their own traps. Those who gave the money and opened the eyes of the green
snakes will most likely not go unpunished.
Isaiah 19:16 In that day the Qgyptians will be like women. They will shudder with fear at the uplifted hand that the LORD Almighty raises against them.
I think they forgot the six day war where the Angels held their hands down and they could not shoot their weapons. His anger is great from what you read here.
I pray that we get a new leader who has fear of God and sense not to
deal with the rest of the world. I didn’t loose anything over there. I go for protecting the Jewish brother and sister where ever they are but the other part against God, I am against. I support the word of God.
Those who live by the sword will die by the sword. Those who love the Lord I believe will be saved at this point. I pray that all who are not saved and fulling around in the world, turn to God and rememeber or find him and his word. His anger just in words is enough to scare you even knowing him, people need to stop playing.
Augusto Perez said in the news letter he saw Maryland and Virgina beaches with a Tsunami. He heard the explosion. I believe it was the back end of my dreaam about D.C.
Those who think they can out smart God and make new springs and follow a whoring after false dieties and idols are going to be brought to punishement according to Gods’ word.
I feel that this is about the bees and the arm, the river euphrates lookes like an arm. This is the unfolding of another dream I gave on your site from God.
Notice anything
Just play ‘match the sounds with all the videos… it’s fun, but no apocalypse.
hi sally
So what do you think it is? a trick?
Anyhow, I had a friend call me from Pittsburgh and say there was a loud creaking sound coming out of the sky. He was not joking. He said his dog was afraid to go outside.
The problem is that non of the viseos show anyone else in them. You would think that if a lot of people heard it they would be on film, at least some of them. The other problem is that as soon as one film goes up…. loads of hoaxs follow. Do I believe there were sounds in the sky? I haven’t heard any. Do I think you can trust utube evidence, no.
But this is as close as you’ll get to a reason.
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/228630
hi sally
Well, it is something to investigate. Sometimes electrical and magnetic energies make strange noises, especially if there is water nearby, and the sound waves bounce off of it. I just heard my furnace start up, and it made some strange noises. Up in the sky and what causes it is beyond me, except that it is unusual.
And God does do things sometimes to warn us, so I take that into consideration, since these noises are not normal. To me, an abnormal experience means something abnormal is going on.
The key to it all is a 13,000 year cycle as the diagram above states. It appears God has a 13,000 year cycle!
Marianne
since it said that these noises were also in Norway. I contacted my siser in law. She and her grown children live there in Oslo and she has a home at the sea.
She said there has been no such noise that they no, nor could they figure were that type of noise comes fomr, maybe this is another hoax.
Anyway if you are a true disciple of Jesus Christ there is no reason to worry.
if we were to go home some will not be happy, but for me i would be thrilled.
hi pattie
I just think the noises are interesting fro a scientific point of view.
Say, what if the Sun divides in two by mitosis? Then we would have two suns and the flare ups from such an event would account for the earth problems?
Lol… producing two suns with the same hydrogen count in the core as the first
Zephaniah 1:2 ” I will sweep away both men and animals; I will sweep away the birds of the air and the fish of the sea ( recent cases of birds falling and fish kills) The wicked will have only heaps of rubble ( Earthquakes including D.C. and New Madrid caused by Polar Shift and Solar Storms) When I cut off man from the face of the earth” (( Tampa Fla, last year, runways shifted ten degrees off the compass, birds fell , caused by Solar Storms creating HCN Cyanide Gas Noctilucent Clouds in Ionosphere, with down drafts created by vortexs, entered lower atomsphere and Birds were flying into the gas clouds with the blunt force of instant death.) The D.C. quake follows repeated Solar Storm and Earth Magnetic shifting last year and this year. D.C. Quake at 5.8 mag. was described as ” Foreshock” meaning the greater quake is incubating in the earth. D.C. should quake again by august of 2012, and New Madrid Fault recently had a major quake, also a foreshock. A severe vortex downdraft could take the Solar Storm caused Noctilucent Clouds of HCN Cyanide Gas and drop them on the ground level near cities, it would kill all within contact of breathing the gas within one to three minutes. It would appear as a Terror Chemical Weapons attack, but be quite natural. The Birds are like the Canaries , they die first because of their altitudes, Land animals would be hit with the more server sudden cyclone vortex of down drafts that bring the poisonous gas clouds in the Noctilucent formations to where it can strike people, not just birds in the air.
hi carmine
interesting….what is your reference for the gas as the source of death for the birds?
If you read the comments on some of those ‘strange noise’ videos, you find that the sounds recorded are from a movie, where police are confounded by trumpet blasts in the sky while trying to stop a hostage situation of ‘believers’ (hollywood style
) holed up in a church.
I don’t know if actual low-rumble sounds have been heard all about the earth, but we do know that time is winding down and knees need to be bowed to Jesus!
hi jen
I think some videos are real, and some are copy cats.
with the all the earth changes and earthquakes, tectonic plates are shifting, and rubbing together, which might release noises into the air…
I have heard an actual trumpet at about 4 am..it was about 2 years ago….I wrote about it and then discovered others had heard it too, in different parts of the country.
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/first-trump/
however, that was a real trumpet. not these noises we hear now.
be blessed
First, and just my thoughts, is that we are past the 6th seal..and have entered into the seventh…but that is just my feeling on that one. As for sounds, (and one was recorded in the ocean, but was also determined to be from naval experiments, which sadly, effects the ocean wildlife, like whales) it is also told in the Bible that the earth will moan from the evil upon her, and will no longer ‘cover up the dead’…which we are also seeing in the earth quakes, etc. So many die, that mass graves are done. This will only increase as man is determined to be at war, no matter the cost, no matter who is standing in the line of fire. As it is said, the bad will die right along side the good. Current war activists really don’t give a damn who is there, babies and all. What a world we live in…yet, there is also great good being done too, and I believe that God is with us. We can find him everywhere if we look, pray and seek him. There is no place where he will not go for any of his sheep, which is why also, he will look for every lost child in our world, no matter what, for his love is greater than all things here and beyond! Nothing here is without purpose, not even great suffering or even destruction. The lessons taught can also forge new ways to him. He will use all tools available to help his children learn here but will not interfere unless we ask him, and it is in his will then to do so.
Giving into the ‘fear factor’ changes the energies around us, so when we lean upon what is right and in faith, we will not falter. Darkness may have its day, as Gandhi often said, but in the end, they never stand and are always defeated! Gods will is never confounded, only mans.
Yes, it will be difficult times, but then, when has it not been on earth? And it certainly does NOT mean the earth will be destroyed, or how could man exist for another thousand years with God as King here? there is even the time past that, when the earth will be made perfect, just as we are in his sight.
Stands to reason, there is more history to be made on earth, and that Heavens gates will open into a new age of light, wisdom and living. Those born into that generation simply will not tolerate war, famine or hardships for people, rather the opposite, as they will be strong in Gods light and will.
Peace is not impossible, and this has happened even among tribes here on earth hundreds of years before now. Some have even managed to live 200 years in peace! And that is also historical fact.
So, in these times, praying for our earth, and all that live upon it is not only wisdom, but what will bring about the positive energy forward to heal our earth and Gods children upon it, thus preparing it faster for his rule upon it.
It is sad to see so many hooked into the ‘fire and damnation ruin’ rather than looking for the ways to live with compassion and unconditional love with all nations. After all, those who will be with Jesus as King here, WILL be living that higher law!
It is said by native elders, that the earth has been in great peril many times, but prayer is what saved it! in other worlds, nothing is impossible to God, even the moving of an asteroid, comet, or other harm to earth! I have a feeling he has done it so many times, we would be more than surprised just how often! After all, the earth does not have a ‘shield’ for nothing! He will not destroy his creation, as that is not in his promise! He will bring many home who do not understand how to live in the true Grace of God when the time comes for ultimate changes here.
Man has to evolve into a higher vibration and wisdom, which unfortunately will also mean, many will suffer and die in great numbers before that time. A birthing process into the new age with God is also a cleansing time. There is much crap to undo here, period. d i also believe that there are many ‘elect’ spirits in heaven who would not come to earth at any other time than during that time with Christ as King…simply because they are already high in their spiritual evolution and do not need the trials many others have needed before them to learn and grow. And the ‘last shall be first, and fhe first (among spirits) will be ‘last’ (to come to the earth) Or so I feel.
Earth is the universal university…we are here to learn who we are, and where we stand in our spiritual growth with God, while we are blinded…and must learn to lean upon him for all things, and trust, that we will make it home one day. May it be so…Amen.
hi Vicki
remember at the 6th seal, the sun turns dark and the moon turns red.
that has not happened yet.
there will be three times “trumpet sounds”. First time is to threatening, based on Quran. it is threatening for some people. who does preparing for the next life is the luckiest person, rather than one who is thinking only to this world.
every single phenomenon has an intention or aim that is “hiding” beyond your head or science.
it’s close, i can feel it..
I find it most fascinating to read all these theories from Bible quoting “Christians” stating that when we die, the “Spirit” , or “Soul” goes to heaven. There are countless passages that tell you the opposite!
Ecclesiastes 3:19. For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all [is] vanity.
20. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
21. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
22. Wherefore I perceive that [there is] nothing better, than that a man should rejoice in his own works; for that [is] his portion: for who shall bring him to see what shall be after him?
John 3:13. And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven.
Vicky just quoted “….believe that there are many ‘elect’ spirits in heaven who would not come to earth at any other time than during that time with Christ as King…simply because they are already high in their spiritual evolution …”
Appart from the “PARABLE” of Lazarus … (not the one whom Jesus had raised), but a STORY illustrating the “reward” we shall receive after the resurrection at the last day, there is really no proof that anyone … appart from Enoch, Moses, Elijah and Jesus who were ever mentioned as going to heaven!
John 11:11. These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
12. Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.
13. Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep.
14. Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.
21. Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.
22. But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give [it] thee.
23. Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.
24. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.
Did Jesus have to call Lazarus’ SOUL back from heaven, after he enjoyed 3 days of BLISS in heaven?
What is the POINT of the resurrection if we all ARE in heaven after death?
As the Bible states, there will be a “First-fruits” group, of ELECT, who escape the “TIME of Trouble such as NEVER was” (Dan.12:1), or also mentioned as Matt.24:21. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mark 13:20. And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect’s sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.
dear Olaf
You are somewhat correct, but have missed something.
In the old testament, or before Christ arose from the dead, the saints did not “go to heaven.”
They went to a place called paradise, which was the “other world” in death, but within viewing of “hell”
remember Christ told the repentant thief on the cross that “today you will be with me in paradise” he did not mention heaven.
here they waited in comfort until they were redeemed by the blood of Jesus.
During the 3 days of “death” of Jesus he descended into paradise and emptied it, taking the departed souls to heaven.
Therefore part of the underworld was now empty, and hell was expanded as more wicked were coming.
Once Christ had arose, being the first resurrection, others could follow.
The resurrection at the end of time is the reunion of the physical body which is left behind at death, with the spirit which will come from heaven to meet it. However, the result will not be the same body as before on earth, but a glorified body.
I live in north-eastern Ohio, and in 2011, we had (I believe) 12 earthquakes along a shallow fault line that runs underneath this area and also into western Pennsylvania… recorded and documented earthquakes from this fault line were always accompanied by a loud, booming noise that sounded like an explosion. This is because when earthquakes come from deeper faults, there is enough ground above it to disspate the sound waes before they reach the surface, therefore you hear nothing, or just a small rumble. When they’re as shallow as they are here, the sound waves make it to the surface, and you hear the boom of the tectonic plates cracking against one another. One of these earthquakes actually had a recorded epicenter under the front walkway of my sister’s house… it shook the whole house, put hairline cracks in the foundation, caused some things to fall off shelves, and tipped over a lamp onto a couch. The Word of God does say that there will be increasing numbers of earthquakes, so this then falls right in line with that.
hi MC
I am glad you wrote in. I have been concerned about your geographical area. I pray you are prepared and safe for anything in the future.
The heat of the sun will be brought to earth. the earth does not need to move closer to the sun to get hotter.