Economic Long Wave Forecasts and the Antichrist

 

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When is the best time for the Antichrist to make his move?

During good times, or bad?

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Our immediate circumstances, and near future, appear to that of global economic depression.

We need to understand that general economic theory, backed by observable history, demonstrates cycles of prosperity and lack.

There are indications in biblical prophecy that seem to point to a time of prosperity, in which the Antichrist will manifest himself.

This is somewhat intuitive, and makes sense as well. Why would anyone want to come to power and only have poverty, when he could have riches instead?

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Time of anticipated prosperity

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This is what Daniel says about the time of the fierce leader who is to come.

 

Dan 8:23 ¶ And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

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Dark sentences (chiydah):

riddle, difficult question, parable, enigmatic saying or question, perplexing saying or question

a) riddle (dark obscure utterance)

b) riddle, enigma (to be guessed)

c) perplexing questions (difficult)

d) double dealing (with ‘havin’)

Dan 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

*** Craft (mirmah): Riches gained by fraud, fraudulent weights, made to deceive, deceptive scales, deceit, treachery

Dan 11:21   And in his estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honor of the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by flatteries.

Dan 11:22   And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.

Dan 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do [that] which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: [yea], and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time.

*** He is not going to invade poor countries that have nothing to offer him.

The economy has to be good, or in recovery for him to make a profit.

Dan 11:28   Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart [shall be] against the holy covenant; and he shall do [exploits], and return to his own land.

Dan 11:31   And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that makes desolate.

Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvelous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.

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The current failed global economy

It might be an idea to watch the world scene, and see who the Savior is for the global economy.

Watch for a promise of new prosperity, based on a new system of weights and measures, and standards.

The financial basis for the new currency, and prosperity will be a fraudulent one, not being as safe as presented, and will deceive everyone into a false sense of security.

Right now, the basis is fiat paper money, since the world went off the Gold Standard at the outbreak of World War 1. Will it continue to be so?

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Here is some discussions in the news about this new gold standard:

http://www.moneyweek.com/investments/how-the-dollars-collapse-will-lead-to-a-new-gold-standard.aspx

http://www.libertydollar.org/ld/real-money/ogs.htm

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So how do we try to predict when the next time of prosperity will be, in the light of the current crisis?

There are different economic theories of cycles, that, more or less, agree with each other. I will just use one for simplicity.

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KONDRATIEV’S LONG-WAVE CYCLE

http://www.financialsense.com/editorials/fekete/2005/0124.html

The long-wave cycle in the capitalist economy was discovered by the Soviet economist N. D. Kondratieff (1892-1930) in 1922.

Kondratiev’s ultimate conclusion was that he obtained sufficient empirical basis to support the hypothesis of the existence of a long-wave economic cycle in the capitalist economies he studied, with an average duration of 54 years. He allowed a 25 percent deviation from this average.

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http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=11161

Nikolai Kondratiev managed to study only two big cycles and a half, ceasing his research on the rising phase of the third one. He delivered his report already on the descending phase of the third cycle, in 1926, when the scale and length of this descending phase could not yet be assessed (so he predicted the Great Depression):

** the numbers to the far right are estimates on the length, in years, of the rising or declining phase

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K wave dates

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Here are some graphic representations of the cycles he calculated, along with some additional references:

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http://northcoastinvestmentresearch.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/kondratieff-cycle.jpg

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http://northcoastinvestmentresearch.wordpress.com/2009/02/02/the-kondratieff-cycle/

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The experience of earlier K-cycles indicates that traditional anti-crisis measures are efficient only on the rising phase of the cycle, in the period of burgeoning growth when recessions are slight and transient on the background of the progressive development of global economy.

Currently, despite all efforts undertaken by ECB Chair Jean-Claude Trichet and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, positive changes are not achieved.

We are in the declining phase of Cycle K5.

The global economy has to pass through a period of “reloading”, getting rid of the over-accumulated capital through its massive devaluation in the process of an inevitable and lengthy recession.

Devaluation of the monetary capital is likely to proceed through a chain of financial crashes, triggering the third default of the US dollar (as it happened in 1920-1930s and in 1970s).

Thus, the global economy is going to be shaken many times, and the current crisis is only a shot across the bow, warning of major events to arrive in the following years.

The global economy is likely to reach the lowest point at the end of the declining phase of the fifth K-cycle, in 2012-2015.

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The Antichrist cannot come until it is profitable for him, which means it will be after the declining phase of K 5 is finished, and we are in the rising phase again.

The rising phase is predicted to be from 2015-2025 (forecast #1), or 2012-2015 (forecast #2), till 2035-2045 (forecast).

So, we have between 2-5 years before “his majesty” may appear in full view, IF this entire financial theory can even be considered reliable as a predictor.

We could also have to wait from 25- 45 more years.

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In the meantime, we can watch for anyone who irritates the king of the north (identity is debatable, since there are several to the north of Israel) and the king of the south (confirmed as Egypt).

***  This would be according to Daniel 11.

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The point

The Antichrist would come just at the worst point of a declining phase.

He will know that the crash trend will be soon followed by a natural rising cycle, and he will take advantage of this.

Most bottom periods of a cycle last at least a few years, before a rise occurs.  

This “bottom”  may be the time that rich “Babylon” falls, and the world weeps for her. 

Now their fall will follow hers, meaning they are in trouble also.  

They will be looking for someone to help them.

But when the rise starts to occur, the Antichrist would take credit for the natural rise in prosperity that will soon follow.  

He will claim that it is his “economic plan” that “saves the world.”

This plan is a delusion, and has no secure basis.

The “rise in prosperity” is not his doing, but he will take credit for the improvements.

This would make him a hero to everyone.

His goal is to control the world, and convince them he is their economic, and spiritual savior.

But if we know what he knows, then we will recognize this cycle timing, and be able to identify who this fake savior is. 

We can add this information to what we know from the bible, as a confirmation.

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It is important to note, that with man, there are rises and falls with prosperity.

But with God, prosperity is constant for those who are faithful. 

There are no “declining phases” with Him.

 

 

 

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See also:

God, Man and Stock Market Wave Theories Click here for more

 


35 Responses to “Economic Long Wave Forecasts and the Antichrist”

  1. definitely the bad times . people all over the earth are waiting for a man because all the governments are failing. the Antichrist will appear to bring the governments and economy back up to par and beyond for those who play by his order.

    • hi hotheadbuddy

      You might be very right…..Maybe he will come in just in time to take credit for anything good happening. And people will be so desperate by then that they will believe anything.

  2. times will not only be bad but extremely bad the bible states in 2 timothy 3:1 perilous time in fact. Matthew 24:21 states there will be a time that is worse then any other time on earth. history repeats its self and in fact get worse. i think the great depression and world war 2 should be studied by Christians there is a lot to learn from the 1920-1930s if your eyes are open.

  3. My ‘gold’ (ha) is on 25-45 for the Anti-Christ. The ‘production’ is preceeding exactly according to God’s script . And the world is moving scene by scene to the time of the ‘abomination of desolation. NOW is the time to place our hearts and lives in the safety of the Ark (God). There is nothing to fear. ‘The battle is the Lord’s’ and it’s already been fought. Satan and his son, Anti-Christ,….have already been defeated. God continues to RULE ‘in the kingdom of men.’ There is NONE above HIM.

    • i agree and the time of the LORD is soon at hand. we as christians should not worry about these things as much as we should be praying for souls and the lost because we have made it–we already sit in heavenly places.

  4. there are some references to the Antichrist above such as Daniel 11:21 – 31 which should be removed since they have already taken place . i know it is confusing . but the verses refer to antiochus iv . this has already proven to have been fulfilled as prophecy. the Antichrist is not pointed to in Daniel 11 until verse 36.

  5. ”Right now, the basis is fiat paper money, since the world went off the Gold Standard at the outbreak of World War 1. Will it continue to be so? ” no . the banks hate paper money . it is hard to track, is counterfeited and can be stolen or obtained in ways that are private and used in ways that undermine some of the countries policies. over 95% of economic transactions are an electronic blip on a computer.

  6. look at Germany pre WWII. Hitler was so embraced because not only did he promise but he delivered. bring Germans out of 35% unemployment to almost 0% in just over 10 yrs. he would not have been so important to the German people if he could not have offered them anything. that is why it will be more profitable for the Antichrist to come to power in a down time when people are looking for prosperity and security.

  7. Here Marianne, you are suggesting that the antichrist is waiting for the best time to make some money. That is if I understand this post correctly.
    I didn’t know that was his goal.
    First of all I personally think that money is not a problem with him.
    I think the antichrist already has more than sufficient money/gold/etc.
    As for waiting a dire time for the people that is an old strategy.
    ‘Starve them first and then they will be willing to fight.’

    I think we must look at the goal of the antichrist to understand the means of his accomplishing it.
    How would you define his goal?

    • hi abigail

      Maybe I am not doing a good job here.

      My idea what that he would come just at the worst point of a declining phase,…. knowing that the crash trend will be followed by a natural rising cycle, and he will take advantage of this.

      He would then take credit for the rise in prosperity that followed. This would make him a hero to everyone.

      He goal is to control the world, and convince them he is their economic, and spiritual savior.

  8. We have all benn taught that the mark of the beast and the antichrist will be worldwide in scope, and thus the antichrist will be some charismatic world leader:IE The president of the USA. We have been taught that the pope or some false prophet will lead millions astray into the religion of the antichrist. But what if the antichrist religion is already here and no one noticed? The Bible states that the antichrist will arise to the south, to the east and towards Israel (Daniel 8) This geographical location is where Islam has arisen. BTW, for all of you Damien fans, this is not Europe! In nations where Islam resides, Christians are already treated as badly as any end time text would assert. Revelation speaks of those who are beheaded for there faith. Who beheads people? Islam. Who betrays their parents unto death if they convert to Christ? Islamic children! In Ezekiel 38, there is an invasion by Gog from the northeast, which is the same location Daniel 8 describes-northeast of Israel-or to the south, to the east, and towards the beautiful land,(Israel). And those are all Islamic nations. In Joel, it is written that the Lord coems in the air, he will drive the northern army out of Israel. Who will reside in Israel? The antichrist and his armies! Perhaps when John talks about the “whole world” worshipping the beast, it may well be the whole known world in his day. Will China worship the beast? Will Argentina? This is conjecture of course, but it also may bring hope to the western nations, of whom Isaiah says, “From the west, shouts of praise and glory come” as the Lord returns. Just as the leaders of Israel missed the scriptures of Jesus’ first coming, perhaps we have all been missing it as well. And the western nations may never even come under the antichrist’s rule. And that could be the real blessed hope.
    Alan Brooks

    • Everybody seems to think, the AntiChrist is going to be some handsome and charismatic figure. Hitler was none of this and still took Germany by surprise. The AntiChrist will be cunning and shrewd, that’s for sure and he will be proficient in the dark arts because of the spirit that will possess him.

      • hi gyod

        I personally do not think he will be charismatic. Daniel describes him as fierce, attacking both the kings of the north and south before he invades Israel. I think we need to go by someone’s spirit rather than preconceived notions based on traditional thinking.

  9. The truth is short and simple and to the point…Revelatin 20- 8 shows who gog and majog are…

    • ruth

      It sounds like every nation is Gog and magog by Rev 20…..I wonder if there are 2 invasions – one local and one global.

      Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.

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  10. If you want to knwo who antichrist is read the Bible..Antichrist is a spirit.. 1 john 4-3..And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.The spirit of antichrist is of course satan…Just as men are born again of the gospel of CHrist so
    men are transformed into spirit of antichrist by satan’s doctrines..Born again of satan or what the bible calls twice dead…

    Islam is the body of antichrist… Since 9-11 Islam has been exposed from h… to breakfast and have destroyed the very fundation of Islam… So satan in flesh has come to save his bride… This is the dreaded antiichrist of Rev 13.He has come as a man…and this man will look good to many…but the elect will see him for what he is…and warn others but many will not listen..

  11. Has anyone read the first few chapter of Daniel …

  12. Good morning. I have to admit to always elieving that the son of perdition would appear at a point of despair; at which time he would seem to “solv all of the worlds ills and cause those who know not the Lord to proclaim “who is like this guy? Who can make war with hm?” We’ll know in time who will occupy this place, but we can be certain that contitions are ripening, both physically and spiritually. I recently heard a report from Denmark wherein many hold Mr Obama in higher esteem than the Lord Jesus. The world is primed to follow after a man.

    I’m convinced that when this person does appear, it will be revealed to the true remnant saints. All the more reason for us to be pryerfully watching. Events may unfold in ways that are not in line with our conventional thinking, but they “will” line up with scripture.

    A very intriguing post. Someday I would love to take a weekend and read through all of the pages here. Time is in short supply these days, but it would be awesome. Blessings always in Jesus name.

    timbob

    • This Iranian Hitler says that the twelfth imam cannot come until there is total chaos and he sees himself called to create that chaos.

  13. agreed

  14. Thank you for this study. I
    hope to see more on this same topic. Enjoyed all the comments as well. God bless you all.

  15. Gold did go off the standard in 1971 under Nixon i have read from the top again and dont know where i got that . i stand corrected.

    • Actually it was suspended once in the meantime because there was not enough gold around to pay all the bills.

  16. The “antichrist” is already among us here on earth. the “antichrist” is not just ONE man, he is many things. andone and anything that is not “Christ” like and live for his Glory, is “antichrist”. don’t be looking for a Man, the Antichrist is already among us.

  17. I must be into clocks lately … but here is an amazing clock (live) worth watching.
    http://www.usdebtclock.org/

  18. This is only my opinion. Current economic times are unlike any other in our past. Due to ‘globalization’ we have global companies who have cut their margins to fractional parts in order to remain competitive.

    The products of these global corporations are thing like food, indeed the very products that make human life possible. Your food is shipped in overnight from Brazil (etc), not one chain store has an inventory anymore. JIT (just in time) inventories increased corporate productivity but increased risk exposure and catastrophe exposure by unimaginable margins.

    Because inventories are necessary for stability (think of Joseph in Egypt) humanity sits on the edge of a knife. Should there be system failure, of any kind, global response will be swift, with power quickly and easily given to WHOMEVER can restore balance.

    What previously took decades will seem an almost immediate transformation to power (months, because decades would result in complete world collapse), because each day that passes in chaos will compound the suffering of humanity (JIT would be exhausted after maximum 7 days).

    Without the system in place, people will rapidly fall to protectionism, chaos, war and starvation. There will probably be ‘world events’ that hasten peoples will to submit.

    The nations of the world will gladly turn over any power deemed necessary to resume the fragile system of food and goods distribution and economic prosperity in place now. With that power shift, you will be required to submit and probably receive some kind of global identity which swears your allegiance to the Antichrist.

    Christians won’t submit because we are forbidden to accept this mark or swear allegiance to anyone but God…and I am assuming that in the last days the Holy Spirit will be poured out upon the people as it says in the Bible. Our lack of submission combined with our ability to do miracles and our walk with God will cause us to be labeled as ‘terrorist’ for the world will not understand the miracles, but will be seduced by ‘The False Prophet’. Remember the now famous words of G.W.Bush “If you are not with us, you are against us.” Not a whole lot of wiggle room there…

    I believe the ‘False Prophet’ is active now…and you can find him if you know where to look (I don’t recommend it, the message is so seductive that, as the bible says, ‘even the elect will be fooled’ be VERY careful)…but claims that he is ‘waiting to reveal himself’.

    This is one possible scenario of many…one thing that I want to point out through this is that if we are lucky enough, YES LUCKY, to see these times, we will have an opportunity to walk in God’s Holy Spirit in a way that the church has only dreamed about for hundreds, if not thousands of years.

    If you read your Bible, you will see the possibilities of what such a walk with Christ and the Holy Spirit could be like (Christ, and the apostles, were trying to teach you how to behave and believe). When you truly see this potential, all fear will leave you, you will be surrounded with Faith, Trust in God and his Love will be with you.

  19. Prophecy of the Fallen Fat Wallet – Miriam Franklin

    http://endtimespropheticwords.wordpress.com/2009/01/31/prophecy-of-the-fallen-fat-wallet/

    I think some of you guys have been praying for me specifically to get more revelation in certain areas – in fact I am sure of it, and believe at least one person has enquired of God specifically to give me more detail on certain matters – as I have had a load of visions over the last few days!

    Anyway, I had a vision in the early hours of this morning – 31st January 2009. {I was wide awake at the time].

    In this vision, I saw a fat closed wallet, stuffed fat full of wads of banknotes – and it was lying on the pavement – it had been dropped, and perhaps it was lost too. I saw how this wallet had first gone high flying through the air, and then fallen down and landed on the spot, as someone [its 'owner'] had tripped on the pavement further up the road, thus dropping it out of their hands so it went flying to this place.

    I believe the interpretation of this vision is to do with the economy. That the economic crisis which was caused by men ‘tripping’, caused it to soar high and then to fall and descend. [This bit we know already].

    But there is more – as as we speak the wallet has not yet hit the ground. It was like paused mid-descent for a while, I understand that God is saying more descent is to come – as the wallet has not yet reached the ground in its fall. {The ’spot’ where it falls perhaps being symbolic for the low spot rate at that time [its value effectively].] So we have seen the high flying in the bubble, and we have seen part of the rapid descent. Yet we are still to see the landing – or the bottoming out. It was like the wallet paused in mid air for some time before it crashed down again. And God is saying that another sharp descent/fall is coming after that pause to cause this – there is lower to go for the value of certain currencies and the economy, and I believe quite significantly so in terms of the height of this new drop.

    Economic fatness [eg prosperity/wealth] represented by the fatness of the wallet, will be a thing of the past for certain nations and national wealth will fall a lot.

  20. Hey Marinanne,

    I pray for you every night because you helped me on my path. Check this out though…you probably have already seen it, but I am excited because it was the first time I saw it.

    http://www.waytozion.org/video/stream/timeline/timeline.html

    It is Daniels time line, and it might explain the pause in the decent of the wallet. :) I hope this finds you well.

    • hi Christian

      I appreciate your prayers. That means a lot to me.

      Someone else sent me that video. It is very long. I started to watch, and got side tracked. I wish there was just a graph.

      I was looking at the time line last night from Daniel, and realized I had trouble fitting in the 2300 days of the goat and the ram with the rest of the 1260 and 1290 days.

      Once, I thought i had it understood, last night I got confused again. There are 7 years, but I can only grasp half of it. The other half is fuzzy to me. I will have to go back and rethink it.

      here is one post, but i never came to a conclusion:
      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-goat-and-the-2300-days/

      I understand how the Jewish feasts play into things. I just need to understand how the 2300 days fits in.

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  23. Lowes closed 20 stores…not good news…they are a stable company.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/business/2011/10/lowes-closes-20-stores-cuts-1950-jobs/

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