House Vision of the Night (1971)

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Vision from 1971 predicts the last Presidential terms in America.

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1971, updated 6/1/97
C. Alan Martin
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All commentary is the original, except where I (Marianne) make a comment, which will be indicated by a ***

The editor’s note is by Steve Quayle.

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http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Prophetic/040610.12.houses.html

(Editor’s note: I think I first saw this particular prophetic word in 1994, during the Clinton Administration. C. Alan Martin had at one time hosted a "prophetic school" in the early days of the public internet. Several years ago, he moved and then shortly after that the web site vanished. This is the most current copy of this dream/vision that I have been able to locate.

Since the time that this was written, we have seen the Monica Lewinsky scandal erupt over the Clinton White House, and in the sixth year of the presidency the "Star Report" was published.

George Bush then was elected president, and we have seen the weeping for the World Trade Centers. I am sure that his commentary on his dream would be quite different now, but so far, this vision itself has remained uncannily accurate. Mr. Martin, if you read this, feel free to update us!)

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The Vision

In 1971, I received a vision of the night in which I was shown a row of houses.

It was not until 23 years later that the Spirit gave me a dream which held the key to the meaning of these houses.

*** this would have been about 1994

They represent presidential administrations, starting with Truman , and extending into the future for two more presidents (beyond Clinton).

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Linear Recounting of the Vision of the Night:

"We were fleeing the persecution and calamity of the day.

*** persecution predicted

A brother was fleeing with me. He fell and I paused to help him up.

We prayed "Lord Have Mercy".

My friend vanished, and I looked around to see that I was at the top of a hill overlooking 12 houses.

As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10) and proceeding through to the last house (#12).

*** these are administrations Clinton (10) through Obama (12)

I looked into the sky over #12, and saw an arc of what appeared to be 6 stars in the sky.

One of the stars fell to the earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb.

*** What do these 6 stars represent? Maybe 6 more terms, but one is lost, leaving 5 more Presidential terms? 

Or, maybe the star is a leader who “falls” from power.

A voice came to me and said "look to the east!". I began to turn to the east, fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the clouds.

The dark clouds opened up in two places and I saw the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood.

*** this is the 6th seal of Revelation.

As I looked to the east, instead of seeing the Lord in the sky, I saw an army.

This army was made up of ancient armaments such as battering rams, catapults and siege ramps.

I ran down and joined the army at house #5.

Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a "temple fortress".

The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate.

A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress.

He was dressed in a suit.

A voice said to me "he says he is god, but he is of devil".

Then the vision ended.
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I waited for 23 years to receive a clue as to the meaning of these houses.

In another dream in 1995, I was in the back yard of house #3.

I looked down at my feet and saw a LIFE magazine, with a picture of JFK on the cover, and the words "In Memory of Dead Presidents". House number three is the house that represents the term of John Kennedy.

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The Houses

As Stated above, each house represents a presidential administration.
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House 1 Truman:
Nothing significant revealed about this house.
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House 2 Eisenhower:
In a related dream, a model rocket was launched into the air and was drifting down into yard of this house. The rocket then turned into a glider and glided into the yard. My aunt used to refer to me as her "rocket boy" because of my early interest with model rocketry. It was in the Eisenhower Administration that I was born. (1954).

It was during this dream that I ran through the back yard of house #3 (to retrieve the falling rocket) and was shown the Life Magazine with Kennedy on the cover. It was then that I knew that these houses represented presidential administrations.

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House 3 Kennedy:

The yard in which I was shown the key to the meaning of the houses. The Life Magazine with JFKs face on it with a caption stating "In Memory of Dead Presidents" was in this yard.

It has been suggested that all the presidents on this "street" must pass away before the events discussed in the remaining revelation can occur. This would mean all presidents up to Carter and maybe Reagan (his house is on a corner lot).

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House 4 Johnson:

This house was occupied by a family of Jews named Levine. It was during the administration of LBJ that Jerusalem was returned to Israel during the 1967 Arab Israel war. Levine is a long form of Levite. This is a very significant event in the history of the world.

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House 5 Nixon:

It was into the yard of this house that I ran down and joined the army of God which was marching forward through time(the backyards of these houses). It was also in the Nixon administration that I was saved, filled with the Spirit, and had the vision I am now describing. Everything up to this point had already happened in time.

However, everything recorded in the remaining houses had not yet happened. It is significant to remember this president, since it will be (according to the falling star and darkened house #10) the 6th administration after Nixon that will endure the beginning of judgment on America.

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House 6 Ford:
Nothing significant

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House 7 Carter:
Nothing significant
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House 8 Reagan:
A Major shift occurs in the time of this president. The house sits on a corner lot, and the row of houses changes direction TO THE RIGHT. It can be noted that the nations’ politics took a sharp turn to the right during the Reagan administration. Right or wrong, This shift undoubtedly was in the plan of God for the series of events leading up to the last presidents and the fate of the nation.

House 9 Bush :
Nothing significant in this administration.


*** the elder Bush

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House 10 Clinton:
It is this administration that is the main focus of the vision of the night.

Over the house was a very dark cloud, so dark that it seemed like night.

The cloud was very low so as to almost touch the rooftop.

There was something very significant about the "back door" of this house that may have some meaning.

The lights were on in the house and they stood out brightly in the darkness created by the cloud.

As I looked at this cloud hanging low over the 10th house, I also saw an arch of 6 stars in the sky to the west.

The stars were of different colors, and the last (sixth) of them fell to earth like a fig that was shaken loose from a limb.

I believe the ‘fall’ or bad times represent the accelerated moral decline of the U.S. over the Clinton years.

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House 11 President: ?

In the yard of this house (# 11) is a large weeping willow tree. This tree represents mourning and sorrow. But under the draping limbs of this tree are children playing.

My interpretation……………. (If my understanding of house 10 and the six stars is correct, the nation has 6 years left after Clinton leaves office)

*** This is Bush, the son

***I do not think it means 6 years, since GW Bush was in for 8 years. I think this means that each Presidential term is 4 years, and there was potentially 6 terms left (24 years), but the last term would be “lost,” leaving 5 terms (20 years) from Clinton to the last term for House 12 is ended. This would be years 1993 – 2013.

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House 12 President: ?

*** This is Obama.

This is the last house that I saw in this vision of the night.

After this house was a dirt path that lead toward a collection of boulders arraigned in a semi circle which reminded me of a place where a trial was held and judgment rendered.

In another dream which took place during the millennial age, I was standing among these rock looking at the ruins of a world rocked by the tribulation.

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In the ruins of these boulders I found a witch doll.

I knew immediately that one of the reasons that the USA was judged was because she had gone after the occult and witchcraft.

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Across from the path after house #12 was a new row of houses stretching off into the distance. These I believe are the rulers of the land that Jesus will set up during the millennium.

In the vision of the night (after I saw the star fall to the earth), I heard a voice say "Look to the east".

As I turned I saw the clouds part and I saw the blood moon and the dark sun.

*** This is the 6th seal of Revelation.

Both of these are symbolic of judgment being levied on a nation and the fall of a nation.

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I continued turning to the east and saw the ancient army approaching from the east through the yards of all the houses of the presidents.

*** The terrorists come from the “east.”

I saw a man emerge from what I perceived to be a "temple fortress" who was dressed in a diplomatic suit, and carrying a briefcase.

A voice said "He claims to be God, but is of devil".

Then the dream ended.

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Pattern after Reality

Perhaps the greatest miracle concerning this vision of the night, and the hardest to conceive, is that the neighborhood described is an actual neighborhood from my childhood in Massena New York!!!

The street was called "Washington Street" (for presidents?).

The houses are just as I describe them, and were that way long before I had the dream.

There really was a family of Jews named "Levi" in house #4.

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The street did (and still does) take a right turn at house #8.

House #11 really does have a weeping willow tree under it, and children did play there… because I was one of them in my early childhood (early 60s).

*** Sorrow over 911. Desire to protect the innocent.

There really is a path leading up from house #12, and there really is a collection of boulders at the end of that path!

There really is a row of houses stretching off into the distance on the other side of that path.

These facts can be verified with little effort, as the streets and houses exist today as they did 25 years ago.

Note this map of the area:

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Can you see the miracle that God somehow manipulated the houses, events, and even street names so as to coincide with this vision of the night!!!!

This in an undeniable, verifiable miracle where God used (and is using) an existing neighborhood to lay out His plan for America and the manifestation of the Antichrist.

We are in house #10 now.

*** actually we are in house 12, so we are at the end.

Hold onto your hats, because the next dozen or so years are going to be a roller coaster ride!!!


http://members.aol.com/chursey/c_alan_martins_house_vision.htm

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Marianne’s note:

To summarize, the darkness came in with Clinton.

We recall Osama bin Laden attacked the World Trade Centers in 1993, and the USS Cole was also attacked by terrorists.   Clinton did not respond.

Any other darkness may have been spiritual, with the allusion to the “back door.”

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The darkness from terrorism came to first peak with Bush, and 911.

The darkness will completely take over by the end of the Obama administration.

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Somehow, an extra possible term (star) falls, and it does not occur.

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This is when the man in the dark suit, who thinks he is God, shows up.

Are the 6 stars:

a.   6 administrations, with one lost, leaving only 5?

b.   6 world leaders, with one falling from power?

c.   the first 6 seals of Revelation?

The issue that the sun turns dark and the moon turns red (6th seal of

Revelation) by the end of house 12 implies that the world has just

gone through the first 5 seals.

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This means either:

1. the first seal (white horse) was opened during Clinton, and the false peace of the Oslo accords, the second seal (red horse) was opened during Bush with the war on terror, and the third (black horse of famine), fourth (pale horse of death), and fifth horse ( martyrdom) would occur during and / or after Obama.

2. All the seals are opened during or after Obama.

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There is no time frame given to each of the seals.

War can be continuous.

It does not take long to starve to death, or die of martyrdom.

By 2012, we will know how this vision turns out.

America may still be here, but what kind of people, or government, will be present?

 


61 Responses to “House Vision of the Night (1971)”

  1. The only time that you really have to worry about is : when you see Spain engulfed in war. As for the Ant Christ It is a religion (ISLAM)I wrote this before, but the Beast is a being from outer space (HE COME FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA)perhaps Mars or any other planet. As far as the 13 Years goes .unfortunate I do not believe that we have that many years left The world future will no longer be in the hands of greedy man but will be governed by God .that is of course after the 3 days of darkness ,the braking of the 6th seal. So Listen and listen very carefully .Do not go on assuming that you have a long time but instead start to prepare ,live each day as if it was your last .Make no plans for the future because the future may never arrive .God Bless you
    Rosa

    • Well Marianne, I hate to rain on your parade but someone has to be the voice of reason here.
      First of all, what are the credentials of the author here? He had a dream when he was 17 and now we are to believe he is a prophet of God? Sorry to be so skeptical but Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets so I am always cautious when I hear stories like this.
      To verify the story I used Google Earth to check out the neighborhood and it turns out there are 11 houses on the top row and 9 on the side row for a total of 20 of which the author uses only 12. He lived in the neighborhood so naturally he had a dream about his home turf. If he had been in California or Europe and saw the neighborhood I might be impressed but in this case I am not.
      Also, there is no trail as mentioned in the article, but that may be due to the time since he was last there.
      As for the interpretation, it sounds to me much like what I hear from many others trying to decipher bible prophesies. They come up with a personal theory and then look for little items here and there that seem to fit the bill. I have seen some very elaborate schemes developed from just a few bible passages. And when they have gaps in their theories, they simply ignore them. (As in Ford, Carter and Bush 41).
      As for the first 2 seals being opened, that is complete rubbish. You suggest that maybe they are opened but maybe they are to opened after Obama. So what you are inferring is that perhaps these events are so insignificant that we may have missed them. Really?. These are supposed to be events of biblical proportions. The pale horse kills ¼ of all mankind. So the first two slipped thru unnoticed somehow? You are trying to fulfill prophecy using insignificant events, just to fit the theory. I see this a lot lately.
      And why are you trying to tie events in the US government to bible prophecy? What do our presidents have to do with the Book of Revelation? Do you think that God is revealing His time line through this vision? Or does this dream over-rule the bible?
      I think this is one more exercise in silliness and to give it any attention is making it into something it is not. These dreams are a dime a dozen. There must be tens of thousands all over the internet and YouTube. They only succeed in drawing our attention away from the word of God to pursue the follies of men.
      Forget about it.

      • hi James,

        You may or may not be right about the houses. I looked up the map too. True, there are more houses now, but it is 40 years later, and they could have built up the neighborhood more. I am not sure, and I will admit that.

        It is also a matter of interpretation what is of “biblical proportions.”

        If you look again, I did not say that the pale horse had ridden out.

        I only said that maybe the white horse ( false peace _Oslo) followed by the red horse ( war) could have ridden out. But since wars happen frequently in history, and we have had 2 “world wars” which were ONLY focused in Europe, it may be that the war on terror, which is actually world wide now (lots of countries are dealing with terrorists) that this could be the red horse.

        The black horse and pale horse have not come yet. But have the other two? That is a question, not a conclusion.

        As the main world power, events in US government SHOULD be related to the Book of Revelation. It has its role, judgment, and demise, like any other nation. I do not think anything is insignificant, as it all plays into the final scenario.

        We are instructed to be watchful, in waiting for the Lord to return. To many of us, this means watching everything, governments, churches, news, events, individuals, etc.

        I presented this dream just for discussion. No one has to believe it. But it does provide food for thought.

        • Hi Marianne,
          I was not trying to suggest that the pale horse has ridden yet, I only used it to give some perspective to the term “biblical proportions.” If the fourth horse kills one-fourth of mankind, surely the first horse can not be signified by the Oslo accords. You are grasping at straws trying to prove this silly dream. Sure it might be a fun exercise but we are warned not to follow seers, soothsayers, psychics, etc. We are warned by Jesus Himself about false prophets.
          You seem quite ready to make excuses for errors in his story and are eager to find events that seem to fit the dream no matter how trivial or unlikely they might be. It is this mind-set that will draw millions to believe the antichrist is the true God. You are anxious to get confirmation of bible prophecy and you look to anyone who has an interesting story.
          Well, maybe God is cool with that and maybe he will be cool about all the pagan holidays we now celebrate in the name of Jesus, but I’m not taking any chances. This is why I am so skeptical so forgive me if I sometimes seem a bit harsh.
          As for the U.S. being part of the Book of Revelation, it is not a factor. Sure, there will be a WW3 and the US will be involved most likely, but Revelation is not about that. You can’t use U.S. presidents for fulfilling prophecy any more than rock bands or Hollywood movies all of which reflect the morals of the nation.
          I wonder if blog sites in Great Britain are doing this kind of thing with prime ministers. We here in the U.S. tend to believe that everything revolves around us but in the eyes of God we are just one of many nations and he does bot seek our destruction because we have fallen from grace in His eyes. The whole world will be affected by the seals and bowls of Revelation.
          But you won’t find any clues in the White House.

          • James

            I am not depending on this dream to explain everything. I only look at information for any value it might have.

            I personally have had dreams that have come true. For example, I dreamed that Carter would win after Ford, when I did not even know who Carter was at the time.

            A dream does not have to tell the whole story, or be completely true. It might be partly true, and mixed in with our own human impressions. What is true, however, might just be a tid bit of information that has to fit into a bigger picture. If you notice, his interpretation is not the dream itself.

            He thought the pattern was after a street he knew. But this does not look accurate. It does not change the dream.

            Considering the dream does not mean we accept it as 100% accurate. It just gives us something to think about.

            Obviously, the bigger picture is the world, not just one country.

            No one should rely on just one dream to tell them everything. People should primarily rely on the Word of God.

            In each country, people should be watching for changes that bring us to the final end. We are told to watch and pray.

            Somewhere on this planet, there is an antichrist figure that will take over. So watching governmental changes in power seems wise.

            Not that watching should just be confined to governments. And, as you believe, watching what happens in the “church” is very important as well.

            • Marianne,
              I understand your interest in trying to find tidbits of clues to watch for fulfillment of prophesy. I used to do the same thing not so long ago. But then I realized you was looking to men rather than the word of God, which is all we need.
              The main thing I object to in this article is that the author claims the following:

              “Can you see the miracle that God somehow manipulated the houses, events, and even street names so as to coincide with this vision of the night!!!!

              This in an undeniable, verifiable miracle where God used (and is using) an existing neighborhood to lay out His plan for America and the manifestation of the Antichrist.“

              He is claiming that his dream came straight from God and that we should believe he is a modern day prophet.
              BEWARE of false prophets says the Lord. What if this dream was inspired by Satan? He is trying to make you believe that the U.S. will come to a terrible end in 2 years. That sounds like terrorism to me – or “rumors of war” as Jesus put it.

              We might as well believe the world will end at the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012. If you believe this guy then why not the Mayans. Not too long ago you were looking for Planet X as a “sign in the heavens.” Now that you realize that was a hoax you are still looking for signs. Signs in the Dow Jones charts and on the cloud belts of Jupiter. Sure, the topics are interesting and food for thought, but they are not biblical and we really shouldn’t be looking at them at all.

              But don’t mind me, I’m the great debunker – that’s what I do best. You have fun building these theories up and I have fun tearing them down.
              So I thank you for yet another opportunity to have a little fun.

              God Bless!

              • James,

                Granted, he was over enthusiastic about the source or total validity of his dream. But if we look at everything as “only human, and not from God,” then we might miss something.

                Nibiru is up there somewhere. Whether it hits us is unlikely, and I said that in the post. A close orbit might cause some physical disturbances, like earthquakes.

                Jesus said there would be earthquakes. If people live in earthquake zones, they should be careful to consider anything that might endanger them.

                I also consider that our own enemy, Satan, sometimes like to show us his hand. It is wise to pay attention to what your enemy says. For example, right now Iran wants to blow up Israel and the USA. So does Russia. It would be wise to pay attention to this threat. So, even information from an evil source could help us protect ourselves.

                I have been thinking about the white horse and the red horse. It seems like they have been riding since Jesus left.

                There can be no real peace until Jesus comes back. And mankind seems to go to war at every turn.

                Maybe the tribulation really started when Jesus left, and the church ( the real one) went into persecution.

    • Hey Rosa,
      I was not expecting the beast to be a martian sea monster but now that I know, I will surely keep an eye peeled for such a thing.
      I’m not sure how you figure that a war in Spain is the trigger for the tribulation but I will also keep watching the news for such an event. Will it be another civil war or with someone else? Got verses?
      Thanks

  2. Studying this vision:

    Truman is the first President in House 1.

    Why him, and not someone else?

    Truman was the first President to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel over the objections of Secretary of State George Marshall, who feared it would hurt relations with the Arab states.

    Truman wrote:

    Hitler had been murdering Jews right and left. I saw it, and I dream about it even to this day. The Jews needed some place where they could go. It is my attitude that the American government couldn’t stand idly by while the victims [of] Hitler’s madness are not allowed to build new lives

    The last President – House 12 – will turn his back on Israel, and promote its desolation.

    • Re Britain: James,you are right!
      ….Britain does not have a written constitution,
      as you probably may be aware,(we make it up as we go
      along!), so we are less inclined to feel let down, when
      what we know to be an apostate “Christian” founded
      political system, does not reflect the values it claims
      to be founded on,because there is no evidence that Britain,
      throughout it’s history,has ever acted in the interests
      of it’s people,in accord with “true” Christian principles;
      but it has acted in accord with “Churchianity”, and
      the “true” followers of Jesus here, know the difference!
      The word “God” is never mentioned throughout election
      campaigns,as a means of political leverage,simply because
      Britain is by most part a Godless nation, and everyone knows
      it!(except the Queen, apparently!)
      Unfortunately,it does appear that most Americans really
      do believe that their Constitution is founded on Christian
      principles, thereby rendering the U.S.A a special case for
      Divine blessings and providence. Let’s remind ourselves that
      all political powers and systems are,and always have been of
      Satan’s domain, therefore no nation can claim anything more
      than a handful of”true” followers of Jesus at any given time,
      since most who claim to be Christian,adhere to the adopted
      doctrines of apostate Catholicism,which all so-called Christian
      states (and Churches)have been founded on.(Hell fire and torment
      and for ex.)
      Because America considers itself to be a blessed nation,it is
      no surprise then, why American Christians are so pre-occupied
      with political and secular matters,(((which,by their very nature
      have nothing to do with our walk with the Lord, which is to
      be no part of this world }) believing as they do, that God has His
      hand on this nation and therefore will intervene if the collective
      Christian will is strong enough.
      We should all understand that God has His appointed times for all
      prophetic events to be fulfilled; the culmination of all events
      that He knew would take place to bring about the final scenario;
      and no amount of political meddling, debate and endless discussion
      is going to change anything one iota…apart from depleting us all
      of vital mental and emotional energy, which could be put to better
      use;dare it be said… on spiritual matters.
      While it is true that we need to be aware of political decisions
      and manoeuvres that could bring about fulfillment of prophecy, this
      is as far as it need go, since God will give us the spirit of
      discernment if we are truly seeking Him; thereby dispensing with
      the need to delve too deeply into political and secular affairs,
      which, because of what they are, constitute the “deep things of
      Satan”;and will prove to be spiritually detrimental and wearisome,
      if pursued.
      The only blessed “nation” of God, is the “body of Christ”;
      the worldwide “congregation” of believers scattered amongst
      the nations;later to include the believing remnant of Israel.

      God bless all you true followers of Jesus, and let’s never
      forget that He will deliver us, come what may !!

  3. Bear in mind the metaphoric nature of dreams. Perhaps only the relevant houses were shown anyhow.

    The Jew in the New Testament context is the Reborn Christian, specifically those with a circumcised heart. Ethnicity plays no role, it is God’s NEW nation that will be sealed on the forehead and protected even amidst the turmoil.

    However, as in Revelation 12, there is a place being prepared in a wilderness region, as we speak.

  4. http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm

    http://www.coverups.com/jfk/lincoln.htm

    The Lincoln / Kennedy Connection – coverups.COM

    Lincoln and Kennedy

    Here’s a little part of US history which makes you sit up and go hmm…

    Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
    John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

    Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
    John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

    The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
    Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
    Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

    Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
    Both Presidents were shot in the head.

    Lincoln’s secretary was named Kennedy.
    Kennedy’s secretary was named Lincoln.

    Both were assassinated by Southerners.
    Both were succeeded by Southerners.
    Both successors were named Johnson.

    Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
    Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

    John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
    Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

    Both assassins were known by their three names.
    Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

    Lincoln was shot at the theater named “Ford’s”.
    Kennedy was shot in a car called “Lincoln – made by Ford Motor Co”.

    Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.

    Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

    Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

  5. James and Rosa;

    You didn’t comment on my videos and web sites.

    http://lrltv.org/lincoln-assassination.html

    http://usa-the-republic.com/items%20of%20interest/abraham%20lincoln.html

    http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm

  6. Unfortuantely a lot of these video clips are selling books. I was a little frustrated with Stansberry’s Investment Advsory. The first 5 clips were very eductional and they did offer one booklet free, but then the rest of the information had to be paid for and they didn’t tell you where to put your money. It doesn’t matter to me, I don’t have any to put anywhere, but I get frustrated with a lot of the Christian world, because they are making money off of the Gospel. I won’t have to answer for it someday.

    http://www.stansberryresearch.com/

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/god-will-shake-the-nations-%e2%80%93-end-times/

  7. Marianne;
    You know, you and I have are differences and I get frustrated with you, just as you do with me. YOu want me to summarize my posts and you don’t like me copying and pasting and making them long. I don’t want people to take my word for things and when I post a link they don’t open it up.

    We shouldn’t be covering up for anyone. God’s in control. We know the end of the story. The Truth has to come out.

    Why did Booth shoot Lincoln? According to:

    http://usa-the-republic.com/items%20of%20interest/abraham%20lincoln.html

    John Wilkes Booth, drug supplier to the First Lady, realized he was the patsy in all this mess.

    Abraham Lincoln’s real father was Jewish.
    Thomas Lincoln Beat Abraham Lincoln when he was growing up.
    After he left home he never saw Thomas Lincoln again.
    Abraham Lincoln suffered from depression.
    Abraham Lincoln never went to the funeral of the Thomas Lincoln. Even when he requested Abraham Lincoln to do so.

    Here’s a rebuttal link to Abraham Lincoln’s father not being “Thomas Lincoln”
    http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/father.htm

    Would someone please go to the “Local archives and Historical Records on Families”, publish it and put this rumor to rest.

    • That is what the internet says. The page has no credibility and the author is unknown. Where is the proof for all this? I need to see some official documentation.

      • Hey Marianne,
        Well now you’re starting to sound like me – skeptical. I just wish you would apply this logic to this dream and stuff like Nibiru which you take as true from the internet. Where is the official documentation from scientists about planet-X? It was supposed to be here years ago and since it can’t be seen yet it would be hundreds of years until it could reach earth orbit. That is simple Newtonian science that you can prove for yourself. I guess you simply want to believe it since it fits with some of your prophecy theories and I believe that is the case with this dream nonsense.
        I think you and many others are trying to extrapolate world events from bible verses that have nothing to do with them. It seems to be quite a popular endeavor nowadays which is why the world has tired of the truths discovered by Martin Luther and others and are trying to come up with brand new scenarios that they think they can prove with snippets of current events, miscellaneous bible verses and bad info from the internet.
        It‘s all very clever of course and makes for interesting reading but it sounds like a bunch of Hollywood screen writers trying to come up with the next big blockbuster.
        So I plan to keep you all on the straight and narrow, and continue to be the skeptical voice of reason here.
        Somebody has to do it!

        • hi James

          I need to see some proof of some sort, unless something is just logical.

          For example, I saw a lecture given by a man ( forgot name now) who was a retired intelligence officer. He was describing the physical moves of the government to the mid west and the underground military bases that needed to be completed by the end of this year.

          This is because advisers to the government is expecting some sort of possible physical impact into the oceans which will flood the coastlines.

          He said the government was watching planet X ( Nibiru or something similar). All the retired generals, military were relocating to higher ground (1000 feet). Since he was a credible source, I was willing to consider this possibility. So I did not get this off a gossip website by some wackos. The purpose of the lecture was to inform the public of what he government already knew.

          I wrote about it on this page….
          you tube cancelled the videos but I had summarized his talks anyhow on the page.

          THis is John Moore, the speaker.
          http://www.thelibertyman.com/

          his videos are working….there are a set of 12 of them.

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          If you search in you tube, you can find all 12 of them.
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          http://www.thelibertyman.com/
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          • Well Marianne,
            I checked out this dude’s web site and it is very slick and like the Lincoln guy he seems to be spreading all sorts of doom and gloom in order to hawk his many books and products.
            Anyone can say they are something, especially when they can claim that they were in some sort of clandestine organization that keeps its members a secret. Even I was in electronic espionage when I was in the navy. We listened to Russian submarines from wollenwebber antenna sites all around the world. I had a top-secret crypto security clearance and I was privy to information not known to the general public. So in theory all I need is a slick web site and I could spread all sorts of misinformation. Anyone can. But where is the corroboration? Some large telescope must have picked it up and word would have surely leaked out thru the astronomy world. If someone says he knows something big but everyone else on the planet who also knows is part of a huge worldwide conspiracy of silence, that should raise a few red flags. And there are thousands of similar people out there bilking the public of their hard-earned money.
            You can go back 40 years and find all sorts of reports that said Nibiru will be here “next year” or the one after and so on. They constantly update the day of doom to keep the story fresh and the dollars flowing in.
            And I’m sure you know that there are as many “prophecy experts” thru history who claimed every year till their deaths that Jesus would come “next year.” They are all false prophets. I ask you for documentation and you come up with “I read about this guy on the internet who says he is sure it is out there.” At least some UFO sightings have many witnesses, but absolutely no-one has ever seen Planet X, so I’m sorry if I’m not convinced.
            Must be my background in astronomy…

            • James,

              He was not that commercial when I first heard him. The videos are free, and if you listen to them, you don’t have to buy anything. Government people are used to being paid.

              He was repeating what the government thinks. And we know how they think anyhow. But the american government is preparing for something, because images and reports of DUMBS are all over the country. They are really there. The government is planning on going underground and leaving us behind. For them to plan to hide like this from some disaster they are expecting is predicted in Revelation 6, where the kings of the earth run to caves in the ground to escape the wrath of god.

              Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

              Scientists are mindless too. Just as they assign billions of years to evolutionary claims, they also assign time frames to space issues they believe to occur. Their timing is usually wrong. They even get predicting the weather wrong a lot.

              Planet X is in a lot of ancient drawings too. So scientists are looking for this. Since the bible predicts Wormwood to crash into the seas, something is coming. It will not be a planet like they expect, but much smaller. However, the bible predicts it will cause a lot of damage. Revelation also describes a mountain of fire that falls into the sea.

              Rev 8:8 ¶ And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

              this may be a big meteor, not a Planet, which is why no one will see it coming until it is much closer.

              Anyhow, the bible supports something falling and causing trouble. How the government interprets it is their issue.

              But this interpretation is what John Moore is presenting, since he is government.

              • Marianne,
                Please note that Rev: 6:15 states that everyone – every bondman and every free man will hide in caves. It is not specific to government officials.
                But these DUMBS are not being built in response to Planet X or the expectation of bible prophecy coming to pass. With terrorists so close to acquiring nukes, they are preparing for the survival of the government in case of nuclear war, which we can all agree is coming. Here in California there have been similar preparations made in expectation of “the big one.” I for one am glad that there will be a government left intact after a big quake as we will all be looking to them for guidance, information and things like food and water. Haiti’s government should have been so prepared. So let’s not assume that these bases are being built so that our government can simply abandon us in times of trouble.
                As for Nibiru being able to reach us in time for the tribulation, it can not unless you can break the laws of physics. Just as in your business you scoff at sci-fi movies where a bug bite can cause a person to morph into a totally new species, breaking the laws of genetics (and supporting the theory of evolution of the species) I scoff at any theory that says a far away planet can reach us by breaking the laws of Newtonian physics. So there.
                But I do agree that a meteor will strike the earth. Probably one they call “Apophis” which will fly so close to the earth in 2029 that it will get closer than many communications satellites. There is a current 38 in 1 chance of it hitting and that might well change with a little “angelic orbit tweaking.”
                So you are in the right ball park, but as for a mysterious Planet X, forget about it.

                • dear James

                  Now it is my turn, :)

                  You really believe the government is going to let you into those DUMBS?

                  Think again.

                  Citizens are banned from there. It is only for the elite.

                  If you doubt this, find any DUMBS location, and see if they let you in there. You will be met by an armed guard at the entrance.

                  When disaster strikes, what ever it is, they are leaving you outside to die.

                  They do not care about you – only themselves. Please get with reality.

                  We are not “free” any more. This is not America anymore. It is the NWO. We are slaves to the “government.” And unless you have a cave in your own back yard, you will die during an attack. I have no cave in my yard.

                  Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
                  and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

                  So if you don’t have a local cave to hide in, you will die. The objective of the NWO is to get rid of about 5/6 of the population anyhow, so an attack will suit their purpose.

                  There are only 140 DUMBS….they are not going to fit 310 million people in them.

              • Marianne,
                In response to your skinny post below I decided to respond up here…

                Sounds like you believe our government is planning to kill off most of its taxpayers and live in underground burrows and become mole people. You sound like they are inviting nuclear destruction as if it will greatly improve their lives. Why don’t they just send our own military after us? Then they wouldn’t have to hide.
                So you think every politician in the country is part of a huge conspiracy to destroy their own country? Sounds like you’ve been watching too many YouTube videos and reading too many conspiracy theories.
                Maybe we should bury the entire country and hide down there like rats in a sewer.
                Maybe we should think about overthrowing our corrupt and self-centered government. Replace it with no government at all – every man for himself – survival of the fittest.
                Maybe you could run for office with a the slogan “A DUMB for every neighborhood!”
                And is the military in on this scheme? As a former Navy man and a disabled veteran I take issue with that. They are the only thing between the terrorists and us and if you check out Iraq and Afghanistan, they seem to be on our side. Maybe all that will change when they see the end coming, eh?
                Maybe Obama is the antichrist as some have claimed and the U.S. will destroy itself from the inside. Oh no wait – God is going to do that when Christ returns to punish us for our sins. Or is he going to just destroy Islam for not accepting Christ. Guess he’ll have to take out the Buddhists, Hindus and atheists while he’s at it.
                Any way you look at it we are doomed and there’s nothing we can do about it.
                So I guess we need to do what the pilot of the falling plane told his doomed passengers to do:
                “Put your life jackets on, place your head between your legs, and kiss your ass goodbye.”
                As for me I will simply prepare myself for the second coming and to the best of my ability, enjoy the rest of my life.
                DUMBS? We don’t need no stinking DUMBS!
                Have Fun! Be happy! :)

                • If we don’t need the DUMBS, then why are they building them?

                  http://www.projectcamelot.org/underground_bases.html

                  Each DUMB costs about 2 billion dollars. Millions are unemployed and receive no help from the government. Why not help the American citizen instead?

                  About 24 % of the budget goes to the “black budget.” This is in addition to regular military spending.

                  • I guess you didn’t get the joke referring to the movie “Treasure of the Sierra Madre” – it’s an oldie.
                    What I meant was that we don’t need to build enough DUMBS to house 300 million people. We only need enough to protect our military force in case of an invasion. They are not being built to protect congressmen from a meteor strike or planet Nibiru.
                    They cost less than a new aircraft carrier and are a better alternative in case of invasion. Carriers are an offensive weapon, DUMBS are defensive.
                    I suppose you would be happier if they continued to build old-fashioned above-ground military bases but a simple dirty bomb can take one of these out in a few minutes, let alone a real nuke.
                    I guess because they are hidden from our enemies, some people consider them mysterious and conjure up all sorts of subversive reasons for their existence.
                    I will admit one thing, we have apparently wasted a ton of tax money on weapon systems we have never used. Not since Nagasaki have we actually used a single nuke. Seems to me we could have simply pretended we had them and saved taxpayers a lot of financial burden.
                    So perhaps DUMBS are a dumb idea. Chances are we will never be attacked or invaded so who needs them, right?
                    Just issue a colt .45 and an M16 to every man, woman and child and we will protect yourselves if the time comes. That would certainly be a lot cheaper.
                    I guess it just depends on your point of view.

                • That would make a good song;

                  1-2..1-2-3-4;
                  dumb-dumb-a-dumb-dumb-dumb-
                  dumb.

                  or

                  doom-doom-a-doom-doom-doom-
                  doom.

                  With the chorus;
                  “One man’s dumb may be
                  another mans doom, but
                  come what me we’ll be
                  as oone “

                  • maybe you need to start your own music company. :)

                    • I have considered that Marianme,but
                      any orchestration
                      must be no part of
                      this world, since
                      we don’t want to
                      give Satan any
                      oppotunites to dnace
                      to his own “tune”;
                      so am looking for
                      violinists and
                      harpists who play
                      within the pure
                      musical scale God
                      gave us, since
                      dissonance origin-
                      ates with Satan,and
                      we all know how ugly
                      that is…don’t we ?
                      If you know anyone
                      with this pure musical tone, then please let me know. ….o.k,will accept the odd b-m note here and there!

                      I suppose I must be
                      in a good doom today
                      ..sorry, mood……
                      perhaps a good time
                      to write a not so
                      dumb or doomy song!

                      God bless………..

          • Hi Marianne,
            I just wanted to give everyone a quick and simple astronomy lesson in regards to the mysterious Planet Nibiru.
            Everyone who believes this nonsense says that Nibiru is out there, somewhere beyond the orbit of Pluto right now, but on a collision course with earth. They also say that NASA has the proof but everyone there is keeping silent so as not to cause mass panic and the collapse of every government on earth.
            Sounds like the plot of the 1951 sci-fi flick “When Worlds Collide.”
            First of all, every planet since Uranus has been discovered due to perturbations in the orbit of the next closer planet as it was tracked in its orbit around the sun. This is done by taking hundreds of photographs over a period of many years by many different observatories and astronomers. The photos are compared and if the observed orbit doesn’t match the predicted one then it is assumed the planet is being tugged on by another one farther out. Depending on where the outer planet is located it can take many years for the inner planet to get close enough to the outer one to be tugged on. This gets harder to do the farther away from the sun the planets are since the distances between them get greater with increased distance from the sun and the time it takes them to go around the sun and thus encounter the next one out also gets longer.
            For example, since its discovery in 1930, Pluto has only gone one-third the way around the sun and only recently have we discovered two more distant objects beyond Pluto. If Nibiru (which these two objects are not) is out beyond Pluto, it may take another hundred years or more to detect the gravitational tug from it in Pluto’s orbit.
            Note that this process is conducted by hundreds of university telescopes and thousands of astronomy professors and a few professional astronomers perhaps. NASA is not involved in this process so they can not suppress any findings by scientists all over the world. In other words, if Nibiru had been spotted, we would all know about it. And no-one would be able to accomplish this with a backyard telescope. I had a fairly large one yet was unable to see Pluto with it. Imagine a smaller planet twice as far away and less than one tenth as bright – at best.
            Then there is the fact that a true planet will travel in a roughly circular orbit and would therefore never come anywhere near earth’s orbit. Certainly no closer than Pluto. So Nibiru can’t be an actual planet. If it is a comet, it is possible that its orbit brings it close to the earth, but comets are never larger than a few kilometers across and are just big balls of ice. They might do some damage with a direct hit but such an event is virtually impossible. A close pass would do no more damage than the moon at perigee (closest approach to earth).
            But here is the clincher. Suppose Nibiru is actually lurking out there and headed straight for us. How long will it take to reach us? Well, it takes Pluto over 250 years to go all the way around the sun (a Pluto year) At that speed it would take around 75 years to approach the earth. Certainly too late for the second coming.
            Nothing these soothsayers are telling us about Nibiru is true. It doesn’t fit with the laws of physics and basic astronomy 101. It is hype perpetrated on unsuspecting believers who are desperately searching for verified biblical events to prove to the world that God’s prophecy is true. When we use false science to try to prove religion we only look like fools to those who know better. Well, I know better and I refuse to stoop to such tactics. I believe that the seals of Revelation will in themselves prove the existence of God. They will have His unmistakable signature and the world will know they are His works. Otherwise all we have is another act of nature and no way to prove our God is the author. Is that really what we want?
            Not me!

            • James

              What the bible describes sounds more like a meteor than a planet. Somehow it grew into a planet in people’s minds.

              But since the godless governments will be around during the time of wrath, I can see why they would be spending trillions of tax dollars trying to build shelters against what is coming.

  8. I told you Hollywood always is throwing out some conspiracy in their movies. I was looking for something else and look what I ran across.

  9. This video clip is thought provoking. Again, I’m not looking for these things.

  10. Marianne,
    Though I visit your blog for a number of good articles like health, health foods, supplements etc… But as far as the Word of God is concerned, I must say that you are more focused on the prophecies of these ‘SELF-PROCLAIMED’ little prophets rather than the prophecies of the PROPHETS OF G-D (YHVH). You may not have realized this but there are millions around the world seeking the truth and, reading this kind of stuff on your blog will certainly lead them in the wrong direction.

    I agree with all what James Giordano said and much of what Rosa said though I am also not sure that Spain might be engulfed in war – perhaps history will repeat itself in Spain for the horrendous act of Inquisition on the Jewish people in 1232, that spread in other parts of the world too and though spain did suffer for this act in the Cordoba massacre in 1236 & Seville in 1248 I hope I got the years right, but again, there still is anti-Semitism in Spain just like its neighboring countries etc.. So will Spain suffer another such Cordoba-like massacre due to the fast-growing Islam?? That would be an answer to wait and see.

    Another interesting point that Rosa brought up is “the ‘BEAST’ being from outer space”, hhumm!! Very interesting Rosa, No Preacher/Teacher ever teaches on this stuff but I have been doing a study on the sin of Adam & Eve & Satan and the NEPHILLIM (fallen angels) Genesis.6, since the past 4 years and this chapter has been my base from where it took me to the various connections around the world, under the world, and the universe itself and from ancient times. It’s not by chance that I had found these videos more than a year ago. This man is a well-educated Hamas terrorist who converted to Christianity and now has a Ministry in the US. He talks about the antichrist who was taken into outer space by an angelic being and will return.. You will find out who he is in the video. You can watch the rest on http://www.youtube.com Please be patient and listen carefully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJPHniE_ao&NR=1 — Further …

    In Chapter-9: V-3 of Revelation it mentions the release of ‘locusts’ like ‘scorpions’ from the earth, who could these be? Jude V.6, And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. The same fallen angels that were bound in the depth of the earth at the time of the flood? The Chapter and Verse that mentions this beast being released in the ‘end times’ is a weird #– it’s Rev. 9:11 His name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon, who is the king over them (the Nephillim). Satan is leader/king but he is not bound, this we know from Job.1: V-7. 2: 6, And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And what happened to the REPHAIM (the products of the Nephillim through human women?) these were giants – half human/half demon – where did their spirits go? Could they be the “UFO’s or the so-called-Intelligent Beings” which the Vatican and other scientists are trying to make contact with so they can help to save this planet? – what a farce that is! These weird beings are really cannibals who eat the guts of humans. Here I’m providing one video in order not to make this a long comment. You can get the rest of them on http://www.youtube.com Watch PHIL SCHNEIDER – THE ALIEN AGENDA 7 PARTS

    I believe that fallen angels will once again corrupt mankind (both mentally and physically) to such a degree, prior to the return of Yeshua(Jesus) bringing such disaster upon the earth, as He said it will be as it was in the “days of Noah” (Mat 24:37) and the “days of Lot” (Luke 17:28), what He says is true because – The book of Enoch states that too. These disembodies spirits went nowhere. They stayed on the earth. They are the demon spirits that walk through the earth, looking for bodies to inhabit. They know that one day they will be cast into the pit when their time comes. Demons cried out to Jesus, “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” (Matthew 8:29). Just think of Legion and how physically strong that man must have been, but there were possibly thousands of demons inside of him, as they were sent into the herd of 2,000 pigs by Yeshua(Jesus’) command. Those demons certainly did not want Jesus sending them to Tartarus (the deepest abyss of Hades) where their fathers were (Luke 8:31; 2 Pet 2:4)!
    Demons can drive people to commit horrible acts that defy human comprehension and sensibility, and as long as they are in control humans will stoop to anything.

    • hi Jes

      I write on different topics. If you look around, most is bible based. I also have posts on the nephilim.

      see here:
      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/?s=nephilim

      Once in awhile I will look at what average people say, if they have a dream or some other experience.

      Then I will rotate back to what the bible says again.

      I am familiar with Walid Shoebat. I think his contribution is very valid and valuable.

      • Thanks Marianne …

        for the Nephillim link, I’m gonna look into it. Most believers in the Bible are wary about these scriptures and laugh like its a joke but I take every Word of the Bible as the True Word of God.

        Be blessed.

      • Has anyone noticed (through media sources) if Obama has had any personality changes?? just curious…

        I read awhile back that Obama was appearing “out of sorts”……not making appropriate comments…wanting to land the air force one in someone’s back yard..lol

        Does anyone else remember reading this?

        Jes’ comment above made me think of this….

        • maybe he did not have the cue cards in front of him, so he would know what to say…and then his real lack of intellect finally showed through.

  11. Jes;Put your video in a separate box so it won’t be missed.

    • hi kitti

      I am glad you posted this video. I have listened to Phil before, and found his information valuable, but generally unknown to most people. I may post a whole page on his message.

    • Hi Kitty,

      I’m not sure what you mean by “Put your video in a separate box…” I’m not an expert on these things, so how do I do it? And what box? haha:) nutty me!

  12. Enjoyed reading this.

    My thoughts are that Obama’s 1st term ends 2012 and if reelected, 2nd term ends 2016.

    The solar/lunar eclipses are in 2014/2015

    And I do believe the seals have already been opened-not all of them but we are way past the first one….the sixth seal is on its way

  13. Jews know their history. Unfortunately they kept making the same mistakes in the Bible. Americans and Christians don’t their history. History repeats itself. I think you need to understand history to understand what’s going on today in our world. I didn’t know the history of Iraq and Iran when Desert Storm was going on, so I was mislead to believe a lot of things. I really thought this was it, Jesus is coming. I am posting these videos to enlighten some of you. I don’t explain things. Marianne hates that. Let it speak to you, not me. I think things are happenig on purpose by God to confuse the Devil. God knows the outcome, but we don’t so I believe it can go either way. We may or may not see another election. More on that later. I have more to share, but Marianne doesn’t like me to post more than a couple things at a time. I’m at the Library, my computer is getting fixed. YOu can only spend one hour on the internet at the Library, so anything else I post or say will have to wait. No one has commented on my posts/videos. When it comes to the Jews a lot of people won’t touch it with a ten foot pole out of fear of being accused of being anti-semetic.

    Jes, what I was trying to explain was; sometimes the videos won’t open up if you post them in the same box as your text and then people pass over them and miss watching them. I opened up your video. Marianne thought I posted it, but I didn’t. I just posted in a separate box with little text to allow it to open up.

    http://themarysurrattproject.com/The_Issues.html

    Ex parte Milligan – the federal appeal of Confederate agitator, Lambdin Milligan before the Supreme Court at the time of Mary Surratt’s hanging. The petitioner who was tried in a military tribunal where he was convicted of attempting to overthrow Union governments in Indiana, Ohio and Michigan, had his death sentenced stayed by President Johnson (May, 1865) until a decision was reached. A year after Surratt’s death, the Court favored Milligan, outlawing the suspension of habeas corpus and military tribunals. Americans must be tried in a civil court by a jury of their peers – even in times of war.

    Manzanar – the most recognized of the many concentration camps, imprisoning over 110,000 Japanese Americans during World War II. No such actions were taken against either German or Italian immigrant populations who had equally strong “alien” ties to Axis Power nations. Many of the Japanese interned were young men who proved themselves loyal citizens of the United States by enlisting in the war effort, fighting and dying in Europe for the same country that held their parents and siblings hostage. The U.S. government did not address this national embarrassment until the late 1980s when Congress legislated reparation payments former prisoners or their immediate relatives.

    Camp X-Ray – the temporary prison facility established in 2002 whose name has become synonymous with water-boarding and the unlawful detention of radical Islamic enemy combatants. In January 2006, the United States Supreme Court ruled (Hamdan v. Rumsfeld) that the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base military commission set up by the Bush Administration to try detainees lacked “the power to proceed, because its structures and procedures violate both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the four Geneva Conventions signed in 1949.” In January 2009, Barack Obama ordered the Caribbean detention facility closed within one year. To date – the commission and facility remain open.

  14. Here’s your next two candidates for President if we make it to the next election. This is going to be a very interesting next 2 years. But God’s in control and prayer changes things. I don’t thing Sarah will get elected, but a Woman for President of the United States is the next kind of Political correctness that needs to happen. These elistist groups like the Bilderbergers are all in compeitition with each other. Bill Clinton is a member of the Bilderberger. They are actually the ones pulling the strings behind the scenes.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/2826120/Dick-Morris-Prepare-for-Sarah-Palin-versus-Hillary-Clinton-in-2012.html

    Dick Morris: Prepare for Sarah Palin versus Hillary Clinton in 2012
    Sarah Palin is an “authentic model of feminism” and her vice-presidential candidacy “could well” lead to an historic all-female White House race in 2012 against Hillary Clinton, according to a former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2011/01/12/palin,_krauthammer,_and_the_right_kind_of_elitism

    Michael Medved
    Palin, Krauthammer, and the Right Kind of Elitism

    It’s healthy, even natural, for Americans to feel populist resentment against elites that base their status through inherited wealth and family connections. But it’s toxic, misguided and profoundly stupid to focus public hostility on leaders who achieved their positions through education, diligence and ability.

    Recent sniping between Sarah Palin and Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Charles Krauthammer highlights the crucial distinction between rebellious attitudes that attack unfairly arrogated power and privilege and a trendy neo-populism that attacks brains.

    When Krauthammer dared to suggest that the former Alaska governor looked less than “presidential” while shooting caribou with Kate Goselin on her hit TLC reality show, Palin told Bill O’Reilly: “Well, bless his heart, he’s probably used to those in the political beltway who perhaps aren’t out there workin’, but they’re talkin’ and they’re meeting people, and they’re out there doin’ their ‘strategery,’ whereas I’m workin’ and havin’ a great time doin’ it.”

    It’a obvious to me Sarah is being groomed in the media for this.

  15. Are you going to vote for her?

  16. This is all we need another millionarie running for the Presidency.
    Christians in America lost the struggle for leadership and public respect during the 1800′s because they thought they had “won”, that winning the war with King George III and writing a superb constitution settled the matter. They forgot that there is a spiritual war, and that all other strife (military, political, or otherwise) is just a subset of the larger spiritual war going on all the time — until the return of the real King. Christians had been successfully neutralized and secularized.

  17. The Answer to the Federal Researve. Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.theinteramerican.org/activities/the-road-to-emmaus-at-iai.html
    http://www.theinteramerican.org/about-us/fellows/154-dr-edwin-vieira.html1. The reformation of America’s monetary and banking system along strict constitutional lines—through the introduction, State by State, of (i) an alternative currency system consisting of silver and gold to compete with Federal Reserve Notes, and (ii) a State “credit exchange” dealing in “real bills” financed with actual deposits of the alternative currency to compete in the field of productive loans with the fractional-reserve banks in the Federal Reserve System.

  18. Greetings in Christ!

    I am the same C.Alan that had the vision in question and recounted it to the best of by ability. Alas I was a boy and handled it badly then and in the years that followed. Forget all my or anyone elses attempts at interpreting it. I saw what I saw and that was pretty much it. We lived in Pittsburgh at the time, on the 6th floor of an apartment building on Chatham Park Drive on the south side. I was going to Chartiers Valley High School… I was in 11th grade. I worked at South Hills Village as a stock boy. I found Jesus (or should I say He found me) there.

    I will respond and say the YES, there were more houses on Washington street, but they were not in the vision. I would say the first five or so houses on the street were not a part of the vision. I visited the homestead a couple of year ago and the first house on the street is gone. Fire or something. Everything is so different from over 40 years ago! Trees have grown up where there were none. Everything seems so much smaller.

    Forget about trying to count the houses and assign presidents to them. I no longer think that the number of houses is that important. But I might be. Recall that the title of the article on the magazine was “in memory of DEAD presidents.” I have pondered on that one for a long time. Does it mean that all the presidents on Washington street would have to be dead before we turn the corner? At this time (by my count) Carter is the only one left. Again… who knows. I have found that trying to assign meaning by carnal method simply degrades the whole of it. The only time any of it makes sense is when the Lord has given meaning by revelation.

    Why I was given this I do not know. Since I posted it on the infant internet as ealry as 1989, it has gone around the world and millions have read it. I trust the Lord will just that for something. I am always interested when I find another website with the vision and the comments!

    Anyways!

    Blessed be the name of the Lord.

    And BTW, I an NOT a prophet and I have never claimed to be. I am a teacher by reason of age. Receive the vision if you will. If you do not, then God bless and we will see you when the Lord comes!

    In Jesus, who is my only Hope.
    C. Alan

    • dear C. Alan

      It is so nice to meet you here on the site. I think the dream should, as you say, just be appreciated for what it has to offer.

      regarding the falling star, I, since the time I posted this dream, have also been studying a claim about an approaching star. the bible calls it wormwood.

      This could be the star that falls to the earth. There is a planet X, or dwarf star, reported that is accompanied by asteroids and other planets and moons, from what I understand. It is coming in from below the sun and may cause disruption on earth.

      People expect it to eclipse the sun ( so it would turn dark) and have so much iron oxide that it would turn the sky, and the moon, red.

      Notice in revelation a great earthquake occurs at the 6th seal. People expect planet X to cause a global earthquake due to its size, and gravitational pull. When the trumpets sound, wormwood falls to the earth. The obama administration expects this planet x to arrive in the coming months, or at least by the end of 2012. The government already have bunkers out west to hide in, leaving everyone else unprotected to face this anticipated disaster. Notice also that men are said to hide in caves by the end of Rev 6. these are the bunkers governments have built to hide from this apocalyptic event. At least, that is what people expect and believe. Time will tell. The events for the next year may be ok, or very traumatic.

      I also understand there are NATO ships about 100 miles off shore right now, waiting to invade and take over the US, since they plan to move in and establish martial law after the physical disaster strikes. So that would explain your attack from the east.

      • Well, here it is, near the end of 2012 and Nibiru is nowhere to be seen. There are no NATO ships off our coast. No disaster. No invasion. This dream appears to have meant nothing. Sometimes a dream is just a dream.
        Looks like we can put this article to bed finally.
        Fun while it lasted but ultimately just a big waste of time.
        (Told you so…) :)

        • I think you are gloating too soon.

          There are still ships off our coastlines.

          Bible prophecy does predict wormwood. mans’ calculations when it shows up may or may not be accurate, since God controls how fast this thing moves.

          Obama is still in office. He may also win a second term. Why don’t you just wait like we are, and see what happens?

          The bible does not give a date, but an approximate time. Look for the signs of the Lords return.

        • Wait till 21 dec

    • REGARDING THE ARC OF 6 STARS IN THE SKY OVER HOUSE # 12 IN THE “HOUSE VISION OF THE NIGHT”
      First, It is imperative for me to say to you all that to the LORD JESUS CHRIST be the praise and glory.
      As Jesus Christ’s Anointed prophet I need to set the record straight as JESUS CHRIST commanded me, by reminding all about the following scriptures: Amos 3: 7; Deuteronomy 29:29; Psalm 25:14; Matthew 13:10-11; 1 Corinthians 14 32-33. In other words as Christians you are taught by the Holy Spirit all scriptures, but The Glorious Heavenly Father gives His hidden secrets to all Christians and non Christians alike only through Jesus Christ’s selected few prophets who have proven themselves before Him to have diligently studied all the precepts of the entire holy Bible.
      And for you to qualify as Jesus Christ prophet you must not have been educated by Society or Man’s Educational Systems when it comes to the deep knowledge of the Bible, just like all the prophets in the Bible that were educated by GOD alone. John 6:44-45; Isaiah 54:13. And lastly and most importantly the LORD JESUS alone must have visited you in secret in both vision and dream, and poured His holy oil on your head and pronounce you His prophet. Numbers 12:5-6.
      Therefore when it comes to the interpretation of His word the Bible, the Lord does not recognize any Church, institution, organization, seminary school, or the best man or woman approved biblical scholar, but He only respects what His holy prophets and prophetesses interpret. So please do not waste your time running to and fro the earth for interpretation but rather seek the true ministry of His hidden prophets that are unrecognized by His Church.
      Now for your understanding of what the Lord Jesus is doing with the branches of His Holy Spirit amongst His Prophets in our time or generation, please read Luke 1: 17 about John the Baptist. Not that John the Baptist was Elijah the prophet, but rather it was the branch of the Holy Spirit that operated with Elijah that was subject unto John the Baptist. Elijah was appointed to purify the people of Israel from physical sins, transgression, and idolatry by the physical manifestation of the power of God by raw visible fire from God, but John the Baptist was appointed to purify the people of Israel via repentance from spiritual sins, transgression, and idolatry in the heart and conscience of the people by the spiritual manifestation of the truth in the word of God, so each one may be ready as a chosen vessel prepared for the Lord Jesus Christ.
      Likewise today while the Church in general has been asleep, the Lord Jesus has appeared to His chosen prophets He will use during the coming “Great Tribulation”, to whom He has also subjected the branches of His Holy Spirit thus fulfilling 1 Corinthians 14: 31-32.
      When JESUS CHRIST appeared and visited me, on the day He anointed me in December 2002, He said ” I have found my Servant David”, and He gave me my personal scripture concerning my anointing in the word of GOD, which are psalm 89:20; and also psalm 92:10.
      The Lord judged me and counted me worthy because He gave me the fullness and understanding of His word more than all men in the end time generation that we are. And if anybody has any doubt I can only encourage you or your Church prayer warriors to ask the LORD JESUS CHRIST about the matter, since every purified believer has a free access to His throne in Heaven.
      The LORD JESUS did not choose me alone, but has chosen many from all over the World. In my personal search through the internet I was about to find a prophet named Jonah whom the LORD JESUS called “NOAH”. In Jonah’s case the Spirit of Noah was subject unto him.
      The LORD JESUS bear me witness that I have introduced myself this way because of great unbelief within the body of Christ, and because of the gross darkness in the hardened hearts of His elect children who are tossed with every wind of doctrine.
      Now regarding the “ARC OF 6 STARS” in the SKY over the PRESIDENTIAL HOUSE # 12 in the House Vision of the Night given to C. ALAN MARTIN, it is needful to inform you that the reason why the STARS were in an ARC formation is because an ARC in prophesy and vision represents the imperfect rise and fall of a Kingdom, a Government, a Nation, or the entire Earth, in contrast with a STRAIGHT PATH, a STRAGHT LINE, or JACOB’S LADDER that goes STRAIGHT UP to HEAVEN. Thus the RAINBOW with FINITE or LIMITED COLOURS of the SKY above the Earth represents judgment due to sin and transgression, but the colourful bow of heaven with INFINITE COLOURS is a PERFECT CIRCLE emanating from round about the LORD’S Throne in HEAVEN.
      If you as one seeking prophetic understanding were able to remember that the USA came out of the ROMAN EMPIRE, and that JESUS CHRIST is not only prophesying about the USA but also the whole ROMAN EMPIRE, then you would be able to have not a whole idea but a 5% idea of the meaning of the 6 STARS, and yet you still would not have known the meaning of the 6 STARS, and also of the 6th STAR that fell.
      But now the LORD JESUS CHRIST has allowed you to know the meaning by the mouth of His annointed prophet.
      Now here is the interpretation of the 6 STARS:
      The 6 STARS are the same 5 KINGS that have fallen, and one is, which is the USA the GREAT WHORE that sitteth upon many waters, reigning over the KINGS of the EARTH. Revelation 17:1-10.
      It is very important for you to know that in Revelation 17:10, the 5 KINGS are the 5 SEATS OF POWER in the entire ROMAN EMPIRE from the time that ROME came to reign over the whole World. And the 5 SEATS of POWER are ROME, CONSTANTINOPLE, ENGLAND, FRANCE, and SPAIN. All the individual human Kings that ruled in the ROMAN EMPIRE up until the USA came to power attest to the above fact.
      In Revelation 17:1-24, just like a film or recorded video, or movie that was fast forwarded, the LORD JESUS CHRIST was showing John just a clip of the ROMAN EMPIRE in the distant future from JOHN the REVELATOR’s era, about this GREAT WHORE we now know today as the USA.
      And the reason why all the biblical scholars in the World could not understand the meaning of “AND ONE IS” in Revelation 17:10 is because they are oblivious of purpose, time frame, and the subject matter of the vision. And because it is a profound secret of the LORD JESUS CHRIST in seeing who in His Church understands the Vision, therefore He inquired in Revelation 17:9 “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth.”
      Now you can understand that the “SEVEN MOUNTAINS” are not the “SEVEN HILLS OF ROME” as falsely translated by many biblical Scholars who believed the errors of one unrecognized and unconfirmed Scholar. Rather you should know that the SEVEN HEADS which is the same as the SEVEN MOUNTAINS, are SEVEN KINGS or SEVEN SEATS OF POWER.
      And at the time one of the Angels was showing John the Revelator the Vision, he was being told that “5 ARE FALLEN” meaning the five SEATS of POWER have already reigned and past, but that the subject matter in the Vision i.e USA, was the only MOUNTAIN reigning over the Earth.
      Therefore THE USA is the “ONE IS” in Revelation 17:10; and “THE OTHER IS NOT YET COME is RUSSIA, which “MUST CONTINUE A SHORT SPACE”, as The LORD JESUS CHRIST showed His beloved PROPHET DUMITRU DUDUMAN, and SEVERAL PROPHETS AND PROPHETESSES all over the World.
      In Revelation 17: 11, “AND THE BEAST THAT WAS” is the OLD ROMAN EMPIRE prior to ISLAMIC JIHAD that began in 636 AD, which fell and was eventually unseated from being the WORLD POWER by the MUSLIMS.
      It is a big lie by the Western Historians that the BARBARIANS overthrew the ROMAN EMPIRE.
      According to the PROPHET EZRA in 2ND EZRA CHAPER 15, it was the ARABIAN SERPENTS which is the ISLAMIC MILITARY CAMPAIGN that overthrew the ROMAN EMPIRE from World dominance for about 600 years.
      And in 1345 AD during the reign of KING EDWARD THE THIRD of ENGLAND, and the KING of FRANCE, the ROMAN EMPIRE was revived in virtually all of its branches in WESTERN EUROPE.
      And because of the many wars and violence happening at the same time in WESTERN EUROPE including the 100 YEAR WAR between ENGLAND AND FRANCE, the ISLAMIC DOMINANCE was brought to and end in EUROPE. As a result the EUROPEANS were able to recapture AFRICA from the hands of the MUSLIM FIGHTERS.
      In Revelation 13: 3 “ONE OF HIS HEADS AS IT WERE WOUNDED TO DEATH” is one of the SEVEN HEADS which is equally one of the SEVEN MOUNTAINS in Revelation 17:9, and this head was THE SEAT OF POWER in CONSTANTINOPLE, which led to the FALL of the OLD ROMAN EMPIRE. But though CONSTANTINOPLE was still largely under the control of the ISLAMIC PEOPLE in 1345, nevertheless the ISLAMIC JIHAD had no more rule over the now REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE, thus “HIS” meaning the ROMAN EMPIRE’S DEADLY WOUND was healed, and not CONSTANTINE’S DEADLY WOUND, so you may understand the scripture in Revelation 13: 3.
      Now back to Revelation 17:11 “AND THE BEAST THAT WAS, AND IS NOT, EVEN HE IS THE EIGHT, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, AND GOETH INTO PERDITION”.
      The interpretation from our LORD JESUS CHRIST is this:
      After the short reign of RUSSIA which is the SEVENTH HEAD, the WORLD POWER will be given to the BEAST which is the revived ROMAN EMPIRE that we now refer to as the EUROPEAN UNION, and its SEAT OF POWER will be brought back to ROME(THE EUROPEAN UNION) which will be the 8th HEAD or MOUNTAIN, of which ROME was the FIRST SEAT OF POWER, hence JESUS CHRIST is letting us know that ROME which is the 8th is already part of the “SEVEN HEADS” on which AMERICA is sitting on.
      And “GOETH INTO PERDITION” means the EUROPEAN UNION will be brought to an end by force, and judged by JESUS CHRIST, who will thrust all that are guilty into HELL FIRE.
      Now the reason why C. ALAN MARTIN saw the 6th STAR (USA) fell from the sky is because the USA is the only HEAD or MOUNTAIN of the ROMAN EMPIRE that will be no more in existence to fulfill the Words that JESUS CHRIST gave all HIS prophets of the Bible that THE USA will become a DESOLATE WILDERNESS, and that no man, woman or child will live here anymore from the time of its fall.
      As for the rest of the ROMAN EMPIRE (EUROPEAN UNION), THE PROPHET DANIEL in DANIEL 7: 12, lets us know that the rest of the EUROPEAN UNION, their dominion or reign also will be taken away just like THE USA, but first “THEIR LIVES WERE PROLONGED FOR “A SEASON AND TIME”, which is interpreted as 3 and 1/2 years from the fall of the USA, according to Daniel 7:25. Therefore the EUROPEAN UNION will reign only for 3 and 1/2 years after the USA is destroyed.
      Daniel 7: 8 the USA is the “LITTLE HORN” that plucked up in 1945 with the ATOMIC BOMBS of Revelation 13:11-13, the 3 HORNS BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND SPAIN, of the FOURTH BEAST (THE ROMAN EMPIRE).
      Also the USA is mentioned in Daniel 7:11; Daniel 7: 20; and Daniel 7:24-25;
      If you have any questions regarding the prophecies and visions in the 66 books of the BIBLE, and also all old testament and new testament Apocryphal books please feel free to send me an email or call me on my cell 646-234-4541.
      May The LORD GOD, HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, and The HOLY SPIRIT protect you, and give you all understanding of the scriptures written in the Holy Bible. Amen
      GABRIEL TONWURU

  19. Usa. get ready for war against your own government. Be prepared for soon people from the middle of the country will start war against the government.
    Pax vobiscum

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