Large Black Birds Overhead
Raven soaring.
I wonder what they are doing here.
Eze 39:4 Thou shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, thou, and all thy bands, and the people that [is] with thee: I will give thee unto the ravenous birds of every sort, and [to] the beasts of the field to be devoured.
Large black birds, either ravens or crows, have appeared in my area after 25 years of not seeing any around, especially in residential neighborhoods.
We do not normally see ravens in North Carolina.
This reminds me of Hitchcock’s movie, “The Birds” in which the birds took over the town, and harmed people.
My daughter thinks they are crows, but I am not sure. They soar like eagles, and they are so huge.
If they are crows, they are strange ones.
Crows, which are smaller, are a little more common for this area, and flap their wings in flight. Crows do not soar. They flap.
They might be ravens, which are rare around here. They are huge, and soar through the air. I can see them flying from at least a mile away.
Watching some of them, they are almost too big to be considered ravens as well.
I read of one type of crow that is a mix between a raven and a crow, but that is not indigenous to this area. It is from Africa, I think. It is called the Pied Crow.
As elements of nature, they respond to natural changes.
If they are ravens, either they are coming here because of a danger somewhere else, or there is about to happen something around here, and they are drawn to it.
I guess I am still undecided.
But for either crows or ravens, they are omnivorous, and can behave as birds of prey.
Isaiah had mentioned that ravenous birds would be brought in when God judged sins, and brought death to His enemies.
I just hope this is not true for my area. But, maybe it is. Makes me sad, if true.
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-Information below I collected on these birds (extra reading):
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COMMON RAVEN
(Corvus corax principalis) Crow family
AKA: NORTHERN RAVEN; AMERICAN RAVEN
Length
26 to 27 inches
Male
Glossy black above, with purplish and greenish reflections. Duller underneath. Feathers of the throat and breast long and loose, like fringe.
Female
Like male.
Range
North America, from polar regions to Mexico. Rare along Atlantic coast and in the south. Common in the west, very abundant in the northwest.
Migrations
An erratic wanderer, usually resident where it finds its way.
When seen in the air, the crow is the only other bird for which the raven could be mistaken; but the raven does more sailing and less flapping, and he delights in describing circles as he easily soars high above the trees. On the ground, he is seen to be a far larger bird than the largest crow. The curious beard or fringe of feathers on his breast at once distinguishes him.
Ravens acquire early on in life the fortunate habit of eating whatever their parents set before them — grubs, worms, grain, field-mice; anything, in fact, for the raven is a conspicuously omnivorous bird
Crows are smaller with squared tails
Common nests are on rock ledges and cliffs. Nest cliffs close to human activity were not taller than those in remote areas. Observed proximity of roads and dwellings to nests had no significant effect on nest productivity. Nest sites were found between 335-1130 m above sea level, with 44% below 580 m. Successful nests below 580 m fledged a mean of 3.08 young compared to 2.37 at higher elevations. Starvation of nestlings, due to a loss of feeding efficiency in adults nesting at higher elevations, was suspected.
AMERICAN CROW
(Corvus americanus) Crow family
AKA: CORN THIEF; COMMON CROW
Length
16 to 17.50 inches
Male
Glossy black with violet reflections.
Wings appear saw-toothed when spread, and almost equal the tail in length.
Female
Like male, except that the black is less brilliant.
Range
Throughout North America, from Hudson Bay to the Gulf of Mexico
Migrations
March. October.
Summer and winter resident.
When the first brood of chickens is hatched, the crow’s serious depredation begins. Not only the farmer’s young fledglings, ducks, turkeys, and chicks, are snatched up and devoured, but the nests of song birds are made desolate, eggs being crushed and eaten on the spot
Range of The Common and Familiar American Crow
In North America, the American Crow (Corvus brachyrhynchos) is a common sight. These noisy birds live throughout North America in summer, except for the extreme north and very deep south. In winter, they vacate the colder regions, ranging throughout the United States, southern British Columbia and Atlantic Canada.
They are common in both urban and rural areas, taking advantage of both road kill and garbage. If you see a large black bird, about 48cm (19in) long, especially in the city, it is probably an American Crow.
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http://djringer.com/birding/2009/07/07/crows-that-soar-and-paraphyly-in-ravens/
North American Range of The Common Raven
Common Ravens (Corvus corax), are much less common than American Crows. The normal range of Common Ravens includes all of Canada except the southern Prairie Provinces. In the United States, they occur in Alaska, in the west including the mountains, around Lake Superior, and in the northeast. Common Ravens occur in many other locations globally.
Physical Differences Between American Crows and Common Ravens
The most obvious physical difference between an American Crow and a Common Raven is size: the raven is bigger, about 63cm (25in). The difference between a large crow and a small raven can be very subtle, however, especially if the two are not standing side by side. There are other physical features to note:
- The bill of a Common Raven is larger and heavier, and has a less obvious downward curve—the raven’s upper bill does curve downward at the end but is more parallel for most of its length.
- A raven’s throat feathers look shaggy and fluffed out, a feature best seen from the side, in a perched bird.
- The tail feathers of a raven form a wedge shape, while a crow’s tail feathers form a fan, a feature most easily observed when the bird is in flight.
- In flight, the wing of a raven may have a sharper bend than that of a crow, and the primaries, the long feathers at the tip of the wing, are more separate, with space between them.
Behavior Differences Between Common Ravens and American Crows
Because crows are so common, most people have plenty of opportunity to observe them; ravens are more elusive. There are some behavioral differences that can help distinguish the two:
- Ravens don’t flock—they are often solitary but are sometimes seen in pairs. Crows have large family groups and sometimes gather at crow roosts of thousands at dusk.
- Ravens tend to remain in wild undisturbed areas, although they are gradually becoming more common in rural areas.
- During flight, crows typically flap their wings. Ravens are more inclined to soar, and may do somersaults in flight.
http://djringer.com/birding/2009/07/07/crows-that-soar-and-paraphyly-in-ravens/
Crows that soar … and paraphyly in ravens
by David J. Ringer
NAIROBI, KENYA –
Visible only as specks to the unaided human eye, Pied Crows (Corvus albus), soar hundreds of feet above busy, crowded Nairobi, rarely needing to flap their black, oar-shaped wings. Their distinctive silhouettes, and perhaps flashes of their white breasts, identify them as they mingle on the thermals with Black Kites and Marabou Storks.
A group of taxa is said to be paraphyletic if the group contains its last common ancestor but does not contain all the descendants of that ancestor.
A genetic study published in 2005 found that Pied Crows — a common species throughout much of sub-Saharan Africa — are embedded within the Northern (Common) Raven, Corvus corax (Feldman and Omland 2005). Pied Crows were found to be sister to a ‘Holarctic clade’ of ravens (Eurasia and most of North America), while a genetically distinct raven population centered in California was recovered as sister to the Chihuahuan Raven, Corvus cryptoleucus (map of North American populations). This study backs up an earlier one (Omland et al. 2000) that found similar results but had not included the Pied Crow.
If they are merging back together after a period of geographic isolation, then, even though other species have split off from the two populations in the intervening time, they will probably still be considered the same species. Paraphyly happens at the species level (and apparently much more often than we realized) — that’s just how it goes.
Ravens soaring
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird_migration
Many bird populations migrate long distances along a flyway. The most common pattern involves flying north in the spring to breed in the temperate or Arctic summer and returning in the fall to wintering grounds in warmer regions to the south.
The primary advantage of migration is conservation of energy. The longer days of the northern summer provide greater opportunities for breeding birds to feed their young. The extended daylight hours allow diurnal birds to produce larger clutches than those of related non-migratory species that remain in the tropics year round. As the days shorten in autumn, the birds return to warmer regions where the available food supply varies little with the season.
Bird migration pattern
Crows:
raven
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http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/104/identification/Common_Raven.aspx
http://identify.whatbird.com/obj/103/identification/American_Crow.aspx



That’s funny because my sister lived in North Carolina for some time and now lives in Virginia, her husband is in the Navy so they can be some where for a few years and then relocate and then come back. I asked her when I talked to her a few minutes ago and she said that when she lived there back in 2003 they saw black birds. I think that birds migrate to where ever they can go. I doubt that just because black birds are flying over head North Carolina that it means that Christ is coming back even though many people know he already is and from what I heard when I watched something called revelation now with this man named Jack that we have been living in the end for some time.
Are those photos of the birds you saw? Were the birds flying together in pairs or alone?
Could you see their beaks? have you considered the black vulture?
It is hard to help you without the proper info. If these photos are yours then we know …
try to take your own photo of the birds.
I got the pictures from the internet, trying to match them up with what I saw.
But the first one with the blue background does look like what I saw.
There were some at the end of my driveway, and I scared them off, but I did not see their beaks. I was at the opposite end of the driveway – about 50 feet away.
Small flocks, maybe less than 10 together.
Does this look like him?
Yes. They flapped their wings to get into flight, but once there, they glided, or soared. Do vultures do that, or do they keep flapping their wings?
They looked like that from a distance. all black and huge.
according to here
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Black_Vulture/id
I do not think it is a regular vulture, because of the voice.
The head looks different too. Head is more like a crow or raven. It is feathered.
In fight, they look just like the picture given.
And this is raven … larger than a crow …
that was cute. no one sang to me, however.
http://www.naturefootage.com/video_clips/KW60_089
flies like this.
And here is a crow … a lot smaller.
They were a lot bigger than that.
Well you’ve got me. A vulture, a raven or a crow?
Ravens soars but not as high as an eagle … I’ve watched them trying to pull the feathers out of the tail of eagles.LOL But the eagle soon lost the ravens.
Scavengers are all very smart birds. They can devise all kinds of tricks for survival.
me too…I think it is bigger than a crow, but one of the others…it can stay out of my yard….I will chase it away…makes me wonder what it means….I have never had birds like this in my neighborhood…..so it does mean a change in the natural surroundings.
Try to tame it … Soon they will have little ones … they are cute and will enjoy your cats.
These are not mean birds … they are playful and always in search of food.
Enjoy the creations of our God.
Marianne,
If it is a black vulture then they do exist in your neck of the woods.
As for ravens … maybe the snow you all got brought them along.
They might have went more south than usual.
The weather has changed and therefore it might have confused some birds.
Good topic of discussion.
As long as it doesn’t rain crocodiles …
If anything happens along the New Madrid fault, I might get a few crocodiles as well!
Well those you don’t want!
I don’t care for reptiles that much … LOL
See how smart this one is …
I lived in Portsmouth Virginia for a year when I was in the Navy and we used to get crows by the hundreds in the field next to our house. They looked similar to the crows I would see back in New York growing up. There was no shortage of them in either place.
Not too many here in California. I think they have ravens here.
Anyway, I don’t know how far you are from Portsmouth but finding crows in North Carolina doesn’t seem all that unusual. Maybe their migration route has changed in your local area. Or maybe they just wanted a change of scenery from Virginia.
I don’t think I would worry too much in any case.
As long as the birds do not want me for lunch, i am fine.
Read the Raven by Edgar Allen Poe. It will scare you.
Well, I haven’t seen (heard) so much ravens as they are in Israel, and I live 15 years in Israel and it was not like this all the time, only for last 2 years; The feeling they reflect is not of that of presence of uncleanness (acc. to common opinion) – I would feel that I think, but of judgment, divine judgment and prophecy; They help to purify, acc. to Ezekiel and also acc. to Zoroastrian burial tradition (which I doubt was taught by Jeremiah when he traveled there);
HEY, FUNNY YOU POSTED THAT I COULDN’T GET OVER HOW SCARY MY LAST DREAM WAS ABOUT THIS BIG BLACK BIRD(RAVENS), I WAS TRYING SO HARD TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS DREAM WAS ABOUT!!! IT WAS SO SCARY I HAD TO WAKE MY SELF FROM MY DREAM, AND YES THEY ARE MASSIVE , THE ONE IN MY DREAM WAS SO BIG AND FAT AND REALLY SNEAKY, FOR ME TO STOP IT I HAD TO CHUCK A TOWEL OVER IT’S HEAD AND BREAK IT’S NECK, BUT AFTER THAT IT STILL WORKED AROUND LIKE A LOOSE HEAD CHICKEN!!!! THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS
Help me more about this type bird I’m still lost.There are so many different types of birds here where i live so i don’t have a problem with them large,extra large i love all birds.What type does the Bible speak of as signs more than the rest.I know over the yrs.cause of the weather patterns they are confused and don’t know there way in the path.email me back please,Thanks,GP
Hi Gracie,
All animals are God’s creatures, and they only act upon instinct. IF there is a change in nature, this affects their behavior.
For example, I have a friend who had a bee hive in his yard. 30 days before Hurricane Gustav (category 4.0) hit, the bees left. They did not return for 3 months, after the hurricane season. The same thing happened before hurricane katrina (category 5). So, now he watches the bee hive for warning signals.
Nature is there to give us clues, and warnings.
Maybe seeing the wrong birds in an area does mean confused weather, and to expect more of that. It might also mean that they are fleeing from somewhere that is about to experience damage.
So, for example, if a bird is usually found west of the Appalachian mountains, and suddenly they are seen east of them, then maybe the area west is about to get hit with something that would be dangerous for the birds.
For me, ravens are not found much on the east coast, so if that is what these birds are, then it is a warning for those areas where they came from.
If they are black vultures, then they are supposed to be normal for this area, and I should not be concerned too much.
However, seeing any bird of prey in a residential neighborhood is strange, since the birds usually stay in wooded areas.
But then, with all the house construction going on around my area, it is possible that they got flushed out of the woods, as their habitat was destroyed.
I love you … dear Americans … I mean this from all of my heart!
You are all so dear to me.
From your neighbor, a Canadian.
I too … ‘i don’t have a problem with them large,extra large i love all birds’
i LOVE YOU TO MRS.ABIGAIT IF WE CAN’T TELL EACH OTHER THIS NOW WHEN WILL IT START.WE NEED TO START TELLING OUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT WE LOVE THEM AS WELL.IT’S TO LATE TO STAND BESIDE A LOVE ONE AFTER THEY CLOSE THERE EYES FOR THE LAST TIME.I FIND THAT THIS IS A SERIOUS PROBLEM EVERY WHERE I GO.WE NEED TO BREAK THIS CURSE,PEOPLE NEED TO FORCE THEIR SELVES TO SAY THIS.I TOLD A LADIE SHE WAS A STRANGER THAT I LOVE HER THE RESPONSE WAS THAT SHE NEEDED TO HEAR ME SAY THIS TO HER.PEASE,TELL PEOPLE THAT YOU LOVE THEM WHETHER YOU GET A GOOD RESPONSE OR BAD ONE YOU GAVE THE MEDCINE ANY WAY THAT THEY NEEDED.love,GP
Thank you Gracie …
Love does cover a multitude of sins …
Isa 33:15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly; he that despiseth the gain of oppressions, that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes, that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood, and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil;
Isa 33:16 He shall dwell on high: his place of defence [shall be] the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters [shall be] sure.
Yes people NEED to hear that they are loved.
Jesus shed His Blood so that even those who do not respond favorably to your words and to your gift should receive freely what you have been Given.
Acts of grace and acts of mercy and acts of gratitude and acts of forgiveness and acts of servitude are all so that their souls may be saved.
For it is true that once death has engulfed the body of your loved ones it is too late for them to receive from your mouth and from your hand … and so it is also for the stranger in your midst.
We have seen robins for the first time in the two years we’ve been living in South Carolina. Of course, isn’t a flock of crows called a “murder”??
oh gee, that is not too reassuring., is it?
ok my daughter loved the video clip of that kitten and the crow and it made me laugh. The crow is right cheeky aswell!
But I always associated crows neighbouring around with” death” or coming death. Sorry sounds morbid but you’re right marrianne, these crows are drawn like this for a reason. It is right for us to be vigillant.
hi, in west Texas we had huge black crows that would sit on the high lines on highways around Pecos to Carlsbad , New Mexico. we now live in north west central Texas and have hugh flocks of what we call grakels that make a great deal of noise and mess if they roost in your trees. They stayed at the Wal Mart store in our town in the trees at their parking lot and there were so many that stayed there it made such a foul mess and oder they cut the trees down. In south east Texas they have huge swarms of black birds and red wing black birds . There are so many when they fly it looks like black formations in the sky that move twist and turn like a school of fish move in the ocean. Every where i have ever lived in Texas we have always had black birds of some sort. i am 70 now and they have never been sighns of evil as far as i know. Hope this will ease your mind. God bless.
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i have seen these birds line up every morning in a tree there are so many of them as if they are wating for someting to happen at that time of day . on my way to work at 6:45 every moring the tree is full of them and more is still flying in like something is calling them to the area . i am so affarid for the childerning getting on the bus. i leave in fayetteville nc and know that things just dont happen with out a reason and plan and we as people of God should be praying and bending these spritis of darknest. we as people are so busy with the natrual things and not seeing with the spirtial eyes that God as given us.
hi mischel
It is good that you are watching. I live in Raleigh. The east coast may be in for trouble.
Wherever the black birds were before now, those metropolitan areas of further north latitude probably do not miss these cackling black nuisances. : ) Bird migration depends on multiple variables, including temperature and earth’s magnetic field line position & strength. Sometimes migration errors arise such as in these two links:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drift_migration
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_migration
But other times, migration patterns can be altered due to gradual (decade plus) changes in average temperatures and magnetic field position & strength. The following two links detail how in the most recent 30 years since 1980, earth’s average temperature and magnetic field stability both have exhibited strong change from what has been ‘normal’ over the past 100 years. While the current rise in global warming is attributed to manmade pollution, humanity could NOT be the cause of the simultaneous acceleration of the earth’s magnetic north migration! Global warming is probably caused by the magnetic north anomaly which would allow for increased atmospheric solar heating via decreased earth’s magnetic sheath strength. Also, since most bird migration is predominantly magnetic field dependant, recent migratory pattern shifts suggest change in the earth’s magnetic field, more so than global warming.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Global_Temperature_Anomaly_1880-2010_(Fig.A).gif
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:NASA_54556main_nmppath2001_med.gif
As a point of history, I remember 30 years ago in the southern USA winters were colder and summers were milder. I know an 80 year old man who told me of his 1940s boyhood experiences in Mississippi where he would hunt wild rabbits for food with just a stick. With bewildered curiosity, I asked how? He said Mississippi winters back then always accumulated large snow drifts, and he would just follow the rabbit’s tracks until the tracks stopped, and reaching down into the snow there was a rabbit. Currently, winter snow drift accumulation for Mississippi is very rare, so things HAVE changed.
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