OORAH for the American troops!
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The American troops in Iraq have had great success reducing violence, helping the Iraqis to establish their own government, and rebuilding the infrastructure in Iraq. These are the statistics the godless liberal media does not want you to know.
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Liberal media sucks, and commits slander. American soldiers are the greatest in the world!!
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American soldiers are giving their lives so that Iraqi people can be free from terrorism.
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DID you know that DUE TO THE AMERICAN TROOPS:
47 countries have now reestablished their embassies in Iraq ?
Did you know that the Iraqi government currently employs 1.2 million Iraqi people?
Did you know that 3100 schools have been renovated, 364 schools are under rehabilitation, 263 new schools are now under construction, and 38 new schools have been completed in Iraq ?
Did you know that Iraq’s higher education structure now consists of 20 Universities, 46 Institutes or Colleges, and 4 research centers, all currently operating?
Did you know – that Iraqi women are now allowed to attend schools?
Did you know that 25 Iraqi students departed for the United States in January 2005, for the re-established Fulbright program?
Did you know that the Iraqi Navy is now operational? That they have five (5) – 100-foot patrol craft, 34 smaller vessels, and a naval infantry regiment.
Did you know that Iraq’s Air Force now consists of three operational squadrons, which includes 9 reconnaissance and 3 US C-130 transport aircraft (under Iraqi operational control) which operate day and night, and they’ll soon add 16 UH-1 helicopters and 4 Bell Jet Rangers?
Did you know that Iraq has a counter-terrorist unit and a Commando Battalion?
Did you know that the Iraqi Police Service has over 55,000 fully trained and equipped police officers?
Did you know that there are 5 Police Academies in Iraq , that produce over 3500 new officers each 8 weeks?
Did you know there are now more than 1100 building projects going on in Iraq?
They include 364 schools, 67 public clinics, 15 hospitals, 83
railroad stations, 22 oil facilities, 93 water facilities and 69 electrical facilities.
Did you know that 96% of Iraqi children under the age of 5 have received the series of polio vaccinations?
Did you know that 4.3 million Iraqi children were enrolled in primary school by mid-October?
Did you know that there are 1,192,000 cell phone subscribers in Iraq , and phone use has gone up 158% ?
Did you know that Iraq has an independent media that consists of 75 radio stations, 180 newspapers and 10 television stations?
Did you know that the Baghdad Stock Exchange opened in June of 2004?
Did you know that 2 candidates in the Iraqi presidential election had a televised debate recently?
OF COURSE WE DID NOT KNOW. WHY DIDN’T WE KNOW THIS? THE NEWS MEDIA REFUSES TO TELL US.
Godless news media sucks. Americans are great people, and Iraq would not even exist now, if our troops were not there. They would all be dead, without decent burial, under Sadaam Hussein.
Instead of reflecting our love for our country, we get photos of flag burnings, incidents at Abu Ghraib and people throwing things at the presidential motorcades. – —-
Godless news media sucks. We are NOT there for the stupid oil. We have to pay for oil, just like everyone else. It costs us money to be there. We have no financial profits. News media people are liars, and I am sick of stupid people believing everything they are told. .
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Now what have the terrorists done for Iraq, besides kill people and blow things up? NOTHING !!!!
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All the above facts about Iraq are
verifiable on the Department of Defense website: <http://www.defenselink.mil/>
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More Good News From “The Iraqi Surge”. from 2007….and we have done even more since then !!!!.
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Reference:
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/03/more-good-news-from-iraqi-surge.html
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Sharp decline in attacks, killings and assassination in Baghdad
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In a press conference held by General Kamber, commander of Baghdad operation and general Qasim Atta, spokesman for Baghdad’s operation “Rule of Law”. Atta gave a summery of the operation and comparisons to crimes committed during the same period in 2006. The operation started on Feb.14.2007.
The most important accomplishment of the operation “Rule of Law”:
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1- The decline in murders (bodies found with no ID) by 28%. The health ministry and Police comandry have confirmed these numbers.
2- Car thefts are down 65% from 57 to 37. Twenty cars were stolen and seventeen were as a result of carjackings.
3- Assassinations have declined 95%. From 517 to 22.
4- Kidnappings are down 90% from 98 to 10.
5- Bombing crimes are down 38% from 163 to 102.
6- Car bomb crimes are down 36% from 56 to 36.
7- Mortar attacks are down 47% from 204 to 109.
8- Hand grenade attacks are down 70% from 10 to 3.
9- Katusha attacks are down 35% from 23 to 15.
10- RPG attacks are down from 6 to two attacks.
11- Deaths are down 85% from 1440 to 265 and wounded are down 77% from 3192 to 781.
12- Motorcycle bomb attacks are down 100%, 1 before and 0 now.
13- Terrorist arrests are up from 160 to 713.
14- Suspect’s arrests are up from 160 to 1152.
15- Terrorist attacks are down 84% from 94 to 19 incidences.
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I have not seen this news in any of our main media outlets. The Iraqis we have trained are taking the lead in much of this operation and our own forces are putting a tremendous effort in this operation. The recognition and thanks are mute.
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But not so for Americans like me. I love my guys in uniform. 
We are the majority opinion that counts!
*** I am still looking for the 2008 statistics !!….
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Good Job, Guys !!!!!
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OORAH for the American troops! « Heaven Awaits said this on November 11, 2008 at 4:54 pm |
I am a retired disable vet, and want to thank you for writing this wonderful article. May God bless you.
Hi,
You are right, and lots of American soldiers died there, i have just finished 3 years in Baghdad, and it is no vacation.. there should be some recognition, not just a small memorial..although not every Iraqi agrees, but things have changed for the better. My last year has been on the USAID project and that wouldn’t have been there if the soldiers weren’t there. Also the US Army vets are wonderful, as i’m a dog handler/trainer and they helped us out alot.
Blessings
Hi foundthetruth & Rev Williams.
I appreciate all you have done. My life is what it is because of your sacrifices.
I just added some stats showing the success of the surge. So double back and take a quick look, if you did not see that part.
blessings
marianne
A heartfelt thankyou and prayer for all american troops!
Blessings and Protection!
A heartfelt thankyou and prayer for all american troops!
Blessings and Protection!
Hi Marianne,
Thank you for releasing some figures, people should know.
I have written something once, on the day of some bombings..
http://foundthetruth.wordpress.com/2008/07/28/another-day-and-then-you-die/
Keep up the good work Sister
Blessings
Corne
you idiots. what caused all that lawlessness and disorder? the usa starting a war on acountry that had no connection with alqueda, no wdms, and was essentially powerless afte 13 long years of economic sanctions against them. but you are so fucking blinded by your fake religion waiting for the end of everything that you can’t see it.
you had better hope there is no god because you will surley pay for all of your evil actions and thoughts as promised in your “holy” book.
on second thought- i hope there is a god because wont you be surprised to spending eternity in fire with a godless heathen like me.
Thank God for our troops, who sacrifice their lives to keep us free. May God protect them during this Thanksgiving holiday, and always.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hkGzqpGx1KU
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=5pfBUUZNbFM
People complain about why we are in Iraq. It is stories like this that explain it.
Why should terrorists be allowed to do things like this, and go unstopped?
God help them, when the US troops pull out.
I never said I was against us being in Iraq and helping the people.
I’ve learned a lot about George WMD Bush and that’s what I’m against, not our troops.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance44.html
http://www.vancepublications.com/about%20lmv.htm
About Laurence M. Vance
Laurence M. Vance is an author, a publisher, a lecturer, a freelance writer, the editor of the Classic Reprints series, and the director of the Francis Wayland Institute. He holds degrees in history, theology, accounting, and economics. The author of eighteen books, he has contributed over three hundred articles and book reviews to both secular and religious periodicals. Vance’s writings have appeared in a diverse group of publications including the Ancient Baptist Journal, Bible Editions & Versions, Campaign for Liberty, LewRockwell.com, the Independent Review, the Free Market, Liberty, Chronicles, the Journal of Libertarian Studies, the Journal of the Grace Evangelical Society, the Review of Biblical Literature, Freedom Daily, and the New American. His writing interests include economics, taxation, politics, government spending and corruption, theology, English Bible history, Greek grammar, and the folly of war. He is a regular columnist and blogger for LewRockwell.com. Vance is a member of the Society of Biblical Literature, the Grace Evangelical Society, and the International Society of Bible Collectors, and is an adjunct scholar of the Ludwig von Mises Institute.
Laurence M. Vance: “Champion of Liberty and Peace”–Lew Rockwell, chariman of the Ludwig von Mises Institute
Since the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, Bush has gone out of his way to maintain that Islam is a religion of peace that is not much different than other religions. Indeed, our “Christian” president has gone overboard, not just in his tolerance of, but in his promotion of Islam.
On November 19, 2001, Bush hosted a Ramadan fast-breaking dinner (an Iftar) at the White House for fifty Muslim ambassadors. The president said in his opening remarks that the United States is “made better by millions of Muslim citizens.”
On October 11, 2002, when commenting on U.S. humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, Bush stated about Islam: “Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions.”
On November 7, 2002, Bush hosted another Iftar at the White House “to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan.”
On October 24, 2003, Bush released an official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that “people who practice the Islamic faith have made great contributions to our Nation and the world.”
On October 28, 2003, Bush hosted yet another Iftar at the White House with ambassadors and Muslim leaders. During this dinner he had a Muslim Imam lead in prayer.
On October 15, 2004, Bush released another official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that “Americans who practice the Islamic faith enrich our society and help our Nation build a better future.”
Some Christians will excuse Bush’s attempts to placate Muslims by saying that since Bush is the president he has to participate in certain functions as the head of state. True, but when did Nixon, Reagan, or even Bush’s father promote Ramadan? Ah, we are told, this is necessary because the world is different since the September 11th attacks! I wonder how many years will have to pass before we cease to hear that trite cliché? Other Christians will dismiss Bush’s actions by saying that, after all, he is just a politician, and politicians say and do a lot of things that they really don’t believe and don’t want to do. But I thought Bush was a Christian? Aren’t Christians supposed to “provide things honest in the sight of all men” (Romans 12:17)? Okay, still other Christians say, Bush means well, he is just naïve about Islam – but his Christianity is genuine. The first part of that statement is certainly true, but what of the second?
The disturbing thing about Bush’s Christianity is not his naïveté, his hosting of Ramadan dinners, or his statements about Islam. What is so troubling about Bush’s Christianity is his anti-Christian theology. He told the leader of Turkey (a Muslim) that they both believe in “the Almighty.” When questioned by a British reporter about the God of Islam being the same as the God of Christianity, Bush replied: “I believe we worship the same God.” In an October 26, 2004, Good Morning American interview with Charles Gibson, Bush was asked: “Do we all worship the same God, Christian and Muslim?” His reply: “I think we do.”
It is impossible that Christians and Muslims worship the same God, and for one simple reason: Allah had no son. The Koran teaches that Allah had no son (4:171, 6:101, 9:30, 10:68, 17:111, 18:4,19:35, 19:88-92, 23:91, 25:2, 39:4, 72:3, 112:1-3); the Bible teaches that God had a son, Jesus Christ (Matthew 27:54, Mark 1:1, Luke 1:35, John 3:18, Acts 9:20, Romans 1:4, 2 Corinthians 1:19, Galatians 2:20, Ephesians 4:13, Hebrews 4:14, 1 John 5:20, Revelation 2:18). It doesn’t matter if you believe that the Koran is right and the Bible is wrong or that the Bible is right and the Koran is wrong; the result is still the same: Christians and Muslims couldn’t possibly worship the same God.
But it is not just Islam that Bush is confused about. Evangelical Christians who rejoice when they hear Bush talk about faith ought to do a little investigating before they get so ecstatic. When I talk about faith, says the president:
I don’t talk about a particular faith. I believe the Lord can work through many faiths, whether it be the Christian faith, the Jewish faith, Muslim faith, Hindu faith. When I speak of faith, I speak of all faiths, because there is a universal call, and that main universal call is to love your neighbor. It extends throughout all faith.
So, it is not just Christians and Muslims that Bush thinks worship the same God. The god worshipped by any “faith” and the God of Christianity are one and the same. How can “the Lord work through many faiths” unless he is the God of all faiths?
In his Good Morning American interview, Bush was also asked by Charles Gibson: “Do Christians and non-Christians and Muslims go to heaven in your mind?” His reply: “Yes, they do. We have different routes of getting there. But I will, I, I want you to understand, I want your listeners to understand, I don’t get to decide who goes to heaven. The almighty God decides who goes to heaven. And I am on my personal walk.”
So according to President Bush, one religion is just as good as another. It doesn’t matter what “faith” a person holds to – Christian, Jewish, Muslim, or Hindu – as long as you have “faith.” But even that is probably saying too much, for the question put to Bush about who is going to heaven included “non-Christians.” That could mean adherents of any non-Christian religion – Judaism, Buddhism, Taoism, Animism, Confucianism, Shintoism, Zoroastrianism, Sikhism, Scientology, Rosicrucianism, Islam, or Hinduism – or adherents of no religion – atheists and agnostics.
Someone e-mailed me with this. I’ve never done this, but it sounds like a good idea.
http://www.redcross.org/holidaymail
Holiday Mail for Heroes Program Overview
It’s that time of year again! The American Red Cross and Pitney Bowes have teamed up for the fourth annual Holiday Mail for Heroes program.
From now until December 10th you are invited to send holiday cards to our American service members, their families, and veterans all over the world. Anyone can send a card and you can send as many as you would like! Please send all cards to
Holiday Mail for Heroes
PO Box 5456
Capitol Heights, MD
20791-5456
The deadline for this year is December 10th. Unfortunately, if your cards are not postmarked by December 10th they cannot be delivered. After Pitney Bowes collects and screens the mail received in the PO Box, Red Cross workers deliver holiday greetings to service men and women in their communities. Check out how our uniformed men and women and their families expressed their gratitude for the Holiday Mail program when it delivered cards to Walter Reed Army Medical Center.
Don’t wait until someone is gone, to do something like this. Our nursing Unit did this during Desert Storm. It was fun sending letters and getting them back. A marine even came over to my house and shared with me, my mom and dad and another RN his experience in Kuwait/Iraq in 1991.
From an email…….remembering treasonous times, and Hanoi Jane
For those of you too young to remember Hanoi Jane is a bad person and did some terrible things during the Vietnam war Things that cannot be forgiven by those who were betrayed by her!!!!
and now OBAMA wants to honor her…….!!!!
In Memory of LT. C.Thomsen Wieland who spent 100 days at the Hanoi Hilton
IF YOU NEVER FORWARDED ANYTHING IN YOUR LIFE FORWARD THIS SO THAT EVERYONE WILL KNOW!!!!!!
She really is a traitor.
A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70′s and after who do not remember, and didn’t have to bear the burden that our fathers, mothers and older brothers and sisters had to bear…
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the ’100 Women of the Century.’
BARBARA WALTERS WRITES:
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country, but specific men who served and sacrificed Vietnam
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot’s name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison the ‘ Hanoi Hilton.’ Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ’s, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American ‘Peace Activist’ the ‘lenient and humane treatment’ he’d received. He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was dragged away. During the subsequent beating, he fell forward on to the camp Commandant ‘s feet, which sent that officer berserk. In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying career) from the Commandant’s frenzied application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E’s). He spent 6 years in the ‘Hanoi Hilton’,,, the first three of which his family only knew he was ‘missing in action’ His wife lived on faith that he was still alive. His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and clothed routine in preparation for a ‘peace delegation’ visit. They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they were alive and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his Social Security Number on it, in the palm of his hand. When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man’s hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: “Aren’t you sorry you bombed babies?” and “Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?” Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper. She took them all without missing a beat. At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him all the little pieces of paper. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Colonel Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know of her actions that day.
I was a CIVILIAN economic development advisor in Vietnam , and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years. I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year in a ‘black box’ in Hanoi. My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot , South Vietnam , whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border. At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs. (My normal weight is 170 lbs). We were Jane Fonda’s ‘war criminals. When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi , I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with her. I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received, and how different it was from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as ‘humane and lenient.’
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched with a large steel weights placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane. I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda soon after I was released. I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of ’100 Years of Great Women.’ Lest we forget,,,’100 Years of Great Women’ should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots. There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane’s participation in blatant treason, is one of them. Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and
she needs to know that we will never forget.
RONALD D. SAMPSON, CMSgt, USAF 716 Maintenance Squadron, Chief of Maintenance DSN: 875-6431 COMM: 883-6343
I had no idea how bad it was. My father mentioned it over the years but never truly understood what she did. Thanks for posting this.
Good Job Marianne,
For those of you who would like to ask Hanoi Jane a question, go to her website, and leave her a message!
http://janefonda.com/ask-jane/
That’ why I felt Desert Storm did a lot of healing. All the troops were included in the welcoming home. All were honored from “all” wars and all branches of the military.
Marianne and C.J.:
Are you aware that Jane Fonda became a Born again Christian and divorced Ted Turner?
If you don’t know who Christopher Hitchen is, here information on him:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Hitchens
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=3952
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000404/bio
http://www.adherents.com/largecom/fam_born_again.html
http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/j/janefonda.htm
ANE FONDA BECOMES A BORN-AGAIN CHRISTIAN>Robert Stacy McCain
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
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Jane Fonda has become a born-again Christian, enthusiastic in her newly found faith, and her conversion is making waves from Atlanta to Hollywood.
She’s regularly attending church services and Bible studies in Atlanta, and>one friend calls her faith “very real, very deep.”
One of her longtime critics calls it a conversion “right up there with Saul of Tarsus.” The story leaped from Internet gossip to mainstream newspapers following the disclosure last week that she and her husband, Ted Turner, have separated.
Miss Fonda has so far declined to talk to reporters about it, and her spokesman, Steven Bennett, Thursday told The Times: “We do not comment on her personal life.”
She had said in an interview two years ago, on the eve of her 60th
birthday, that she had asked herself, “Where do I want to go with the last third of
my life?”
Friends say Mr. Turner’s unhappiness with his wife’s enthusiasm for her new faith in Christ contributed to the split-up. The couple said they hope to work out a reconciliation.
Her friends in Atlanta and Hollywood are rallying around her.
“I am extremely impressed with the genuineness and sincerity in [her] search for spirituality and wholeness,” the Rev. Gerald Durley, pastor of Providence Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta where Miss Fonda has attended services, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “I think she’s>found a certain sense of peace among people who’ve found peace with Christianity.”
Ted Baehr, chairman of the Christian Film and Television Commission in Los
Angeles, who worries that news of Miss Fonda’s conversion will put the>actress-activist under pressure as a “celebrity Christian,” urges Christians to pray for her.
“We should be kind and gracious and thoughtful and respectful,” says Mr. Baehr, who said he had been aware of Miss Fonda’s journey toward faith for>more than a year.
Joseph Farah, whose Internet site WorldNetDaily.com first reported Miss
Fonda’s conversion, said he had heard “rumblings” about her search for faith
for two years. “Then, last summer, I started hearing again from people who were close to
Jane, that this was real, that she was really attending church and Bible study and had made a sincere commitment to Christianity. It resurfaced recently with the separation between Ted and Jane. I heard from one of my sources that the real reason was spiritual,” he said.
Mr. Turner, who turned a bankrupt Atlanta advertising company into a media empire that grew even larger this week with the merger of Time-Warner and America Online, has been an outspoken critic of Christianity, calling it a “religion for losers.”
At a meeting of population control groups last year, Mr. Turner ridiculed the Ten Commandments and told a Polish joke about Pope John Paul II, who was born in Poland. But later he appeared chastened and told the First Baptist Church of Woodstock, Ga., an Atlanta suburb: “From the bottom of my heart, I apologize for the things I said about Christians.”
Mr. Turner has told friends that he had accepted Christ as a young man at a Billy Graham crusade, but lost his faith after the death of his sister.
Among those involved in Miss Fonda’s path to Christ are several Christian>friends in Atlanta. These are said to include Ginny Millner, wife of Georgia Republican leader Guy Millner, and Nancy McGuirk, whose husband is an executive in Turner Broadcasting Co.
The key figure in Miss Fonda’s search, however, may have been her>chauffeur, who shared his faith with her, Mr. Baehr said. When her husband became upset when she began attending Atlanta’s fashionable Peachtree Presbyterian>Church, Miss Fonda “asked her chauffeur where should she go.” The chauffeur invited her to attend his church, the predominantly black Providence Missionary Baptist Church.
She accepted the invitation, and became a regular parishioner there, though she apparently has not joined the church. Miss Fonda, who founded the Georgia Campaign for Adolescent Pregnancy Prevention, helped Providence Church establish its Fathers Resource Center, which educates young men about the emotional and social responsibilities of fatherhood.
She has not publicly talked about her political views, or whether she has changed any of them, but she is said to have declined to participate in a meditation ceremony at an environmental conference not long ago with an admonition that “it would be better to pray to Jesus Christ.”
A member of Providence Church, who has worked closely with Miss Fonda, said
telephone calls from reporters have flooded the church since the news broke of Miss Fonda’s attendance at Providence Missionary. “It’s been a zoo here.. . . It’s been absolutely incredible,” she said. That kind of media frenzy worries Robert H. Knight, senior director of cultural studies at the Family Research Council, a conservative advocacy organization.
“I would hope, if her conversion is genuine, that Miss Fonda will not come under undue pressure before she is able to handle it,” he says. “She probably needs time to grow in the faith and experience the joys of knowing Christ, before undergoing trials on His behalf.”
Spiritual growth may be difficult for Miss Fonda because of her Hollywood background. The Academy Award-winning actress, who was called “Hanoi Jane” after her 1971 trip to North Vietnam, where she was photographed posing on an anti-aircraft battery, “has been in a cultural universe that is utterly hostile to Christianity,” Mr. Knight says.
Speculation has grown in Atlanta that Mr. Turner might soon follow his wife in a search for his own discarded faith. “Nobody is beyond the grace of God,” says Mr. Baehr. “That’s why Jesus died>for the sinners, not for the righteous. . . . Nobody is beyond God’s grace>whom God decides to call into His kingdom.”
http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/2005/04/Christianity-Is-My-Spiritual-Home.aspx
‘Christianity Is My Spiritual Home’
Jane Fonda talks about how she is ‘riveted’ by faith and why she believes feminism is what Jesus taught.
BY: Interview by Lisa Schneider
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From her longtime political activism to her Oscar-winning acting, Jane Fonda has never done anything halfheartedly, and she brings this characteristic intensity to her faith. When she talks about “feeling the presence of the Almighty,” her view of Jesus, and the way she prays, her voice wells from deep within her chest. You may know this voice from her films (among dozens of others: “Barbarella,” “Klute,” “On Golden Pond,” and currently in theaters, “Monster-in-Law”), or from her aerobics videos (“feel the burn!”), or from film reels from the sixties, when she spoke out against the Vietnam War. Fonda, now 67, spoke with us recently about her spirituality.
Read Beliefnet’s complete interview and listen the audio excerpts below.
http://badchristians.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/born-again-jane-fonda-attends-pre-grammy-party/
“Born again” Jane Fonda attends pre-Grammy party
Jane Fonda, who announced in 2001 that she was a “born again Christian” shortly after divorcing Ted Turner, attended the pre-Grammy party held at the Beverly Hilton, last night.
Jane Fonda at the pre-Grammys
There’s nothing really noteworthy about her appearance, nor is she a “bad Christian” for attending, we just wanted to use the opportunity to remark on how old Ted Danson is starting to look these days! (Just look at that poor guy… she dumped multi-gazallionaire Ted Turner for him?) Jane, you’ve achieved “cougar” status… now go forth, and claim your uh, er… well…
… I guess the geriatric ”Ted Turner” isn’t so bad after all.
Okay, there is ONE negative thing we can say about Hanoi Jane since she has mellowed out and become a Christian: she’s not nearly as fun to hate as she used to be…
kitti
I visited her blog when CJ first mentioned jane. I read about how she thinks she is born again, but is no longer with the church and back to her own version of spirituality – new age, hinduism is ok etc,. I left a cold response that she was then not a real christian, if she abandoned her faith that fast. When I go to her site now, the entire page on her new spirituality , which has little to do with Jesus, is missing.
Ps. She has never repented of all the American troops she had murdered in Vietnam.
Marianne;
I wouldn’t be so hard on Jane Fonda. All these wars have been
manufactured.
Gulf Of Tonkin Was A Staged False Flag Event
(Highlights)
“It was just confusion, and events afterwards showed that our judgment that we’d been attacked that day was wrong. It didn’t happen.” ~ Robert McNamara, Secretary of Defense in 1964
Over 1,100 pages of previously classified Vietnam-era transcripts released this week by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee highlight the fact that several Senators knew that the White House and the Pentagon had deceived the American people over the 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident.
It would take over thirty years for the truth to emerge that the Aug. 4, 1964 Gulf of Tonkin incident, where US warships were apparently attacked by North Vietnamese PT Boats – an incident that kicked off US involvement in the Vietnam war – was a staged event that never actually took place.
The LBJ Presidential tapes, declassified and released in 2001, prove that LBJ knew the Tonkin incident never happened. After dressing down his Defence Secretary Robert McNamara for misleading him, Johnson then discussed how to politically spin the non-event and escalate it as justification for air strikes.
Remember when they tried to pass the Equal Rights Amendment in the
1980′s?
Were you willing to be drafted? Where were you and what were you doing?
http://www.eagleforum.org/psr/1986/sept86/psrsep86.html
ERA would take away women’s traditional exemption from military conscription and also from military combat duty. The classic “sex discriminatory” laws are those which say that “male citizens of age 18″ must register for the draft and those which exempt women from military combat assignment. The ERAers tried to get around this argument by asking the Supreme Court to hold that the 14th Amendment already requires women to be drafted, but they lost in 1981 in Rostker v. Goldberg when the Supreme Court upheld the traditional exemption of women from the draft under our present Constitution.
yes i WILL be hard on her. She personally sent many American soldiers in prison camps to their deaths. She was there in Hanoi, to witness the brutal beatings and killings, and told the soldiers they deserved to die. She is a beast and a tramp. And she has not changed.
Marianne;
You didn’t answer my question. Are you willing to have our women drafted?
Are all these wars manufactured and false flag attacks?
Women are equal to men in the armed forces, and already serve there. There are exemptions for family, education, etc. So I see nothing wrong with women serving in the military.
I do not believe every false flag theory that comes along.
May I assume in your answer that you believe in the EQUAL RIGHTS
AMENDMENT
http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/faq.htm
and the drafting of women?
It sounds like you do believe there are false flag attacks.
I didn’t say I don’t believe Women should serve in the military. My mom was a Wave in WWII.
After reading this article is this really what we want for our men and women in the service?
http://www.couragetoresist.org/x/content/blogcategory/23/37/
http://www.pslweb.org/site/News2?
page=NewsArticle&id=5761&news_iv_ctrl=1044
http://www.countermilitary.org/SuzanneSwift.html
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2007/03/07/women_in_military
http://www.tomjoad.org/warheroes7.htm
The private war of women soldiers
Many female soldiers say they are sexually assaulted by their male comrades and can’t trust the military to protect them. “The knife wasn’t for the Iraqis,” says one woman. “It was for the guys on my own side.”
BY HELEN BENEDICT
This story has been corrected since it was originally published.
As thousands of burned-out soldiers prepare to return to Iraq to fill President Bush’s unwelcome call for at least 20,000 more troops, I can’t help wondering what the women among those troops will have to face. And I don’t mean only the hardships of war, the killing of civilians, the bombs and mortars, the heat and sleeplessness and fear.
I mean from their own comrades — the men.
I have talked to more than 20 female veterans of the Iraq war in the past few months, interviewing them for up to 10 hours each for a book I am writing on the topic, and every one of them said the danger of rape by other soldiers is so widely recognized in Iraq that their officers routinely told them not to go to the latrines or showers without another woman for protection.
The female soldiers who were at Camp Arifjan in Kuwait, for example, where U.S. troops go to demobilize, told me they were warned not to go out at night alone.
“They call Camp Arifjan ‘generator city’ because it’s so loud with generators that even if a woman screams she can’t be heard,” said Abbie Pickett, 24, a specialist with the 229th Combat Support Engineering Company who spent 15 months in Iraq from 2004-05. Yet, she points out, this is a base, where soldiers are supposed to be safe.
Spc. Mickiela Montoya, 21, who was in Iraq with the National Guard in 2005, took to carrying a knife with her at all times. “The knife wasn’t for the Iraqis,” she told me. “It was for the guys on my own side.”
Comprehensive statistics on the sexual assault of female soldiers in Iraq have not been collected, but early numbers revealed a problem so bad that former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ordered a task force in 2004 to investigate. As a result, the Defense Department put up a Web site in 2005 designed to clarify that sexual assault is illegal and to help women report it. It also initiated required classes on sexual assault and harassment. The military’s definition of sexual assault includes “rape; nonconsensual sodomy; unwanted inappropriate sexual contact or fondling; or attempts to commit these acts.”
Unfortunately, with a greater number of women serving in Iraq than ever before, these measures are not keeping women safe. When you add in the high numbers of war-wrecked soldiers being redeployed, and the fact that the military is waiving criminal and violent records for more than one in 10 new Army recruits, the picture for women looks bleak indeed.
Last year, Col. Janis Karpinski caused a stir by publicly reporting that in 2003, three female soldiers had died of dehydration in Iraq, which can get up to 126 degrees in the summer, because they refused to drink liquids late in the day. They were afraid of being raped by male soldiers if they walked to the latrines after dark. The Army has called her charges unsubstantiated, but Karpinski told me she sticks by them. (Karpinski has been a figure of controversy in the military ever since she was demoted from brigadier general for her role as commander of Abu Ghraib. As the highest-ranking official to lose her job over the torture scandal, she claims she was scapegoated, and has become an outspoken critic of the military’s treatment of women. In turn, the Army has accused her of sour grapes.)
“I sat right there when the doctor briefing that information said these women had died in their cots,” Karpinski told me. “I also heard the deputy commander tell him not to say anything about it because that would bring attention to the problem.” The latrines were far away and unlit, she explained, and male soldiers were jumping women who went to them at night, dragging them into the Port-a-Johns, and raping or abusing them. “In that heat, if you don’t hydrate for as many hours as you’ve been out on duty, day after day, you can die.” She said the deaths were reported as non-hostile fatalities, with no further explanation.
Not everyone realizes how different the Iraq war is for women than any other American war in history. More than 160,500 American female soldiers have served in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Middle East since the war began in 2003, which means one in seven soldiers is a woman. Women now make up 15 percent of active duty forces, four times more than in the 1991 Gulf War. At least 450 women have been wounded in Iraq, and 71 have died — more female casualties and deaths than in the Korean, Vietnam and first Gulf Wars combined. And women are fighting in combat.
Officially, the Pentagon prohibits women from serving in ground combat units such as the infantry, citing their lack of upper-body strength and a reluctance to put girls and mothers in harm’s way. But mention this ban to any female soldier in Iraq and she will scoff.
“Of course we were in combat!” said Laura Naylor, 25, who served with the Army Combat Military Police in Baghdad from 2003-04. “We were interchangeable with the infantry. They came to our police stations and helped pull security, and we helped them search houses and search people. That’s how it is in Iraq.”
Women are fighting in ground combat because there is no choice. This is a war with no front lines or safe zones, no hiding from in-flying mortars, car and roadside bombs, and not enough soldiers. As a result, women are coming home with missing limbs, mutilating wounds and severe trauma, just like the men.
All the women I interviewed held dangerous jobs in Iraq. They drove trucks along bomb-ridden roads, acted as gunners atop tanks and unarmored vehicles, raided houses, guarded prisoners, rescued the wounded in the midst of battle, and searched Iraqis at checkpoints. Some watched their best friends die, some were wounded, all saw the death and mutilation of Iraqi children and citizens.
Yet, despite the equal risks women are taking, they are still being treated as inferior soldiers and sex toys by many of their male colleagues. As Pickett told me, “It’s like sending three women to live in a frat house.”
Rape, sexual assault and harassment are nothing new to the military. They were a serious problem for the Women’s Army Corps in Vietnam, and the rapes and sexual hounding of Navy women at Tailhook in 1991 and of Army women at Aberdeen in 1996 became national news. A 2003 survey of female veterans from Vietnam through the first Gulf War found that 30 percent said they were raped in the military. A 2004 study of veterans from Vietnam and all the wars since, who were seeking help for post-traumatic stress disorder, found that 71 percent of the women said they were sexually assaulted or raped while in the military. And in a third study, conducted in 1992-93 with female veterans of the Gulf War and earlier wars, 90 percent said they had been sexually harassed in the military, which means anything from being pressured for sex to being relentlessly teased and stared at.
“That’s one of the things I hated the most,” said Caryle García, 24, who, like Naylor, served with the Combat Military Police in Baghdad from 2003-04. García was wounded by a roadside bomb, which knocked her unconscious and filled her with shrapnel. “You walk into the chow hall and there’s a bunch of guys who just stop eating and stare at you. Every time you bend down, somebody will say something. It got to the point where I was afraid to walk past certain people because I didn’t want to hear their comments. It really gets you down.”
“There are only three kinds of female the men let you be in the military: a bitch, a ho or a dyke,” said Montoya, the soldier who carried a knife for protection. “This guy out there, he told me he thinks the military sends women over to give the guys eye candy to keep them sane. He said in Vietnam they had prostitutes to keep them from going crazy, but they don’t have those in Iraq. So they have women soldiers instead.”
Pickett heard the same attitude from her fellow soldiers. “My engineering company was in the first Gulf War, and back then it had only two females,” she said. “One was labeled a whore because she had a boyfriend, and the other one was a bitch because she wouldn’t sleep around. And that’s how they were still referred to all these years later.”
In the current Iraq war, which Pickett spent refueling and driving trucks over the bomb-ridden roads, she was one of 19 women in a 160-troop unit. She said the men imported cases of porn, and talked such filth at the women all the time that she became worn down by it. “We shouldn’t have to think every day, ‘How am I going to go out there and deal with being harassed?’” she said. “We should just have to think about going out and doing our job.”
Pickett herself was sexually attacked when she was training in Nicaragua before being deployed to Iraq. “I was sexually assaulted by a superior officer when I was 19, but I didn’t know where to turn, so I never reported it,” she told me.
Jennifer Spranger, 23, who was deployed at the beginning of the war with the Military Police to build and guard Camp Bucca, a prison camp for Iraqis, had a similar experience.
“My team leader offered me up to $250 for a hand job. He would always make sure that we were out alone together at the beginning, and he wouldn’t stop pressuring me for sex. If somebody did that to my daughter I’d want to kill the guy. But you can’t fit in if you make waves about it. You rat somebody out, you’re screwed. You’re gonna be a loner until they eventually push you out.”
Spranger and several other women told me the military climate is so severe on whistle-blowers that even they regarded the women who reported rape as incapable traitors. You have to handle it on your own and shut up, is how they saw it. Only on their return home, with time and distance, did they become outraged at how much sexual persecution of women goes on.
Having the courage to report a rape is difficult enough for civilians, where unsympathetic police, victim-blaming myths, and simple fear prevent 59 percent of rapes from being reported, according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice. But within the military, reporting is even more risky. Military platoons are enclosed, hierarchical societies, riddled with gossip, so any woman who reports a rape has no realistic chance of remaining anonymous. She will have to face her assailant day after day, and put up with rumors, resentment and blame from other soldiers. Furthermore, she runs the risk of being punished by her assailant if he is her superior.
These barriers to reporting are so well recognized that even the Defense Department has been scrambling to mend the situation, at least for the public eye. It won’t go so far as to actually gather statistics on rape and assault in Iraq (it only counts reported rapes in raw numbers for all combat areas in the Middle East combined), but in 2006 the DOD did finally wake up to the idea that anonymous reporting might help women come forward, and updated its Web site accordingly.
The Web site looks good, although some may object that it seems to pay more attention to telling women how to avoid an assault than telling men not to commit one. It defines rape, sexual assault and harassment, and makes clear that these behaviors are illegal. The site now also explains that a soldier can report a rape anonymously to a special department, SAPR (Sexual Assault Prevention and Response), without triggering an official investigation — a procedure called “restricted reporting.” And it promises the soldier a victim’s advocate and medical care.
On closer scrutiny, however, the picture is less rosy: Only active and federal duty soldiers can go to SAPR for help, which means that neither inactive reservists nor veterans are eligible; soldiers are encouraged to report rapes to a chaplain, and chaplains are not trained as rape counselors; if soldiers tell a friend about an assault, that friend is legally obliged to report it to officials; soldiers must disclose their rank, gender, age, race, service, and the date, time and/or location of the assault, which in the closed world of a military unit hardly amounts to anonymity; and, in practice, since most people in the Army are men, the soldier will likely find herself reporting her sexual assault to a man — something rape counselors know does not work. Worse, no measures will be taken against the accused assailant unless the victim agrees to stop being anonymous.
The DOD insists on the success of its reforms, the proof being that the number of reported military sexual assaults rose by 1,700 from 2004 to a total of 2,374 in 2005. “The success of the SAPR program is in direct correlation with the increased numbers of reported sexual assaults,” Cynthia Smith, a Defense Department spokeswoman, wrote to me in an e-mail.
In fact, as anyone familiar with sexual assault statistics knows, nobody can ever tell whether increases in rape rates are due to more reporting or more rapes.
My own interviewees and advocates on behalf of women veterans say these reforms are not working. They say there is a huge gap between what the military promises to do on its Web site and what it does in practice, and that the traditional view that reporting an assault betrays your fellow soldiers still prevails.
“Are soldiers who report sexual assaults in the military still seen as betraying their comrades?” I asked Smith.
“Our soldiers are being fully trained that sexual assault is the most under-reported crime,” she wrote in reply. “In that training, not reporting a sexual assault is the betrayal to their comrades.”
Back in real life, Pickett watched several of her friends try to report sexual harassment and assault since the 2005 reforms, and she said that none of them were sent a victim’s advocate, a counselor or a chaplain. “These women are turning perpetrators in and they’re not getting anyone to speak on their behalf,” she told me. “There’s no one sitting in that room with you, so you’re feeling all alone.” In the end, she added, it boils down to the woman’s word vs. the man’s, and he is the one with the advocate, not her.
Meanwhile, the studies I have cited, along with the other past and present studies of veterans, who feel freer to talk than soldiers because they are out of the military, show that women soldiers are suffering post-traumatic stress disorder as a consequence of military sexual abuse. All soldiers with PTSD come home to some combination of sleeplessness, nightmares, bursts of temper, flashbacks, panic attacks, fear and an inability to cope with everyday life. They often turn to drugs or alcohol for escape. Some become depressed, others commit suicide. Many are too emotionally numb to relate to their families or children. But those who have been sexually assaulted also lose their self-respect, feel they have lost control over their lives, and are particularly prone to self-destruction.
I have yet to meet an Iraq war veteran of either sex who does not suffer from some form of post-traumatic stress disorder, but officially the number of Iraq veterans with PTSD is estimated to be about 30 percent for those newly back from war, according to a 2004 study of combat veterans in the New England Journal of Medicine.
The extent and severity of PTSD in women who have had to cope with both combat and sexual assault in Iraq is still being studied, but as it is known that these are two of the highest predictors of PTSD, it is logical to assume that the combination is pretty bad. “When you are sexually assaulted by people who are your comrades, PTSD can be worse than in other circumstances,” said Paula Shnurr, a research professor of psychiatry who conducted a new Veterans Administration study of therapy for women veterans with PTSD, published last week in the Journal of the American Medical Association. “You feel incompetent and helpless, like children feel when abused by the very people who are supposed to look after them,” Schnurr told me. “The people you depend on have attacked you.”
I am not claiming that sexual persecution is universal in the military, or that it is inevitable. Several soldiers I interviewed told me that if a commander won’t tolerate the mistreatment of women, it will not happen, and studies back this up. Jennifer Hogg, 25, who was a sergeant in the Army’s National Guard, said her company treated her well because she had a commander who wouldn’t permit the mistreatment of women. But another National Guard soldier, Demond Mullins, 25, who served with the infantry in Iraq for a year, from 2004 to ’05, told me that although there were no problems in his unit he heard from his commanders that there were rapes in other units in his camp. “One time a woman was taking a shower late, and guys went and held the door closed so she couldn’t get out, while one guy went in to rape her,” he said.
While commanders of some units are apparently less vigilant about policing rape, others engage in it themselves, a phenomenon known in the military as “command rape.” Because the military is hierarchical, and because soldiers are trained to obey and never question their superiors, men of rank can assault their juniors with impunity. In most cases, women soldiers are the juniors, 18 to 20 years old, and are new to the military and war, thus vulnerable to bullying and exploitation.
Callie Wight, a psychosocial counselor in women veterans’ health in Los Angeles, has been treating women who were sexually assaulted in the military for the past 11 years. In all that time, she told me, she has only seen a handful of cases where a woman reported an assault to her commander with any success in getting the assailant punished. “Most commanders dismiss it,” she said. A nine-month study of military rape by the Denver Post in 2003 found that nearly 5,000 accused military sex offenders had avoided prosecution since 1992.
At the moment, the most shocking case of military sexual assault is that of Army Spc. Suzanne Swift, 21, who served in Iraq in 2004. Swift was coerced into sex by one commanding officer, which is legally defined as rape by the military, and harassed by two others before she finally broke rank and told. As a result, the other soldiers treated her like a traitor for months.
Unable to face returning to the assailant, she went AWOL during a leave at home, and was arrested and put in jail for desertion. At first the Army offered her a deal: It would reduce her punishment if Swift would sign a statement saying that she had never been raped. She refused, saying she wouldn’t let the Army force her to lie.
The Army court-martialed Swift, and stripped her of her rank. She spent December in prison and was then sent to Fort Irwin in the Mojave Desert, far away from her family. She must stay in the Army for two more years, and may face redeployment. The men who assaulted her received nothing but reprimanding letters.
Swift’s mother, Sara Rich, has set up a Web site with a petition calling for her daughter’s release: More than 6,700 veterans and soldiers have signed it, and 102 of them signed their names to stories of their own sexual persecution in the military.
Swift’s case, and those of her petitioners, illustrate the real attitude of the military toward women and sexual assault, the one that underlies its fancy Web site and claims that it supports soldiers who’ve been raped.
The real attitude is this: If you tell, you are going to get punished. The assailant, meanwhile, will go free.
Which brings up an issue that lies at the core of every soldier’s heart: comradeship.
It is for their comrades that soldiers enlist and reenlist. It is for their “battle buddies” that they risk their lives and put up with all the miseries of sandstorms, polluted water, lack of sanitation, and danger. Soldiers go back to Iraq, even if they’ve turned against the war, so as not to let their buddies down. Comradeship is what gets men through war, and is what has always got men through war. You protect your battle buddy, and your battle buddy protects you.
As an Iraq veteran put it to me, “There’s nobody you love like you love a person who’s willing to take a bullet for you.”
So how does this work for women? A few find buddies among the other women in their squads, but for most there are no other women, so their battle buddies are men. Some of these men are trustworthy. Many are not.
How can a man who pressures you for sex every day, who treats you like a prostitute, who threatens or punishes you if you refuse him, or who actually attacks you, be counted on to watch your back in battle?
“Battle buddy bullshit,” said García from the Military Police. “I didn’t trust anybody in my company after a few months. I saw so many girls get screwed over, the sexual harassment. I didn’t trust anybody and I still don’t.”
If this is a result of the way women are treated in the military, where does it leave them when it comes to battle camaraderie? I asked soldier after soldier this, and they all gave me the same answer:
Alone.
kitti
You really have a negative focus on everything. What you are describing is not the norm.
The war is not illegal because there are isolated situations like this.
as far as casualties, if women are on active duty, they can get hurt like the men.
The vast majority of the men are decent, and fighting for their country.
This is a volunteer army, not a group of drafted misfits.
Men soldiers have PTSD also.
I still support the troops, and their cause there.
If they were not there, you and I would be bowing to Allah right now, or getting our heads cut off.
I experienced the same harassment when I was in the Navy. I finally went to the chaplain who “pulled strings” in washington because even he stated that I was in danger. I was out immediately. There is more to it…I knew too much about a certain situation which only added to the already present issues…suffice it to say, I was honorably discharged and given the GI Bill to shut me up. I only served 2 years and you don’t get the GI bill unless you complete 4 years. When I questioned why I was receiving the money despite my completing a full term, I was told to cash it and keep quiet.
Even tho women and men are fighting “together” against a common enemy…unfortunately, the women are having to fight within their own ranks. It is the 21st century and women are still treated BADLY within their armed forces.
more controls are needed……so it does not evolve from isolated events to all over the armed forces.
maybe if the women were not so liberated, and contained within Women groups, like the WACS or WAVES, and not mingled in with the men, it would be better.
There should also be female commanders around for women to go to.
Female commanders would help. And more required classes that educate everyone on what is appropriate behavior and what isn’t and what the consequences are for those who cross the line.
What helped me was finding out that the Chaplain outranked the highest officer. As well as a few Master Chiefs that were G-d fearing officers and who had daughters’ my age.
there is no excuse for any of that type of behavior.
This is a dangerous world and …..
Soldiers should be protecting each other, not harming or harassing each other.
These are not isolated incidents. They are the norm. I am a Viet Era vet. Marine Corps. I was and still am friends with a much younger disgruntled, angry former Captain, who calls himself an ex-Marine and means it. The kind of trash and intimidation going is protected criminality.
) Sad. But humor is the savior of the bitter. We then become smiling cynics. Well, at least I am honest. How about you predators of the American lie?
Abu Ghraib, just like My Lai massacres are going on all over. The Abu gang got caught and it will increase as perverts are treated as minority class citizens. Talk about “emboldened”. In Luxembourg in ’86 I knew an aristocratic gay former Dutch Legionnaire who was sexually abused in Thailand where his family vacationed. They were in some diplomatic service. His abuser was an American army officer who was “taking care of him”. This was during Nam and the officer was there for R&R. NOW! It is taking place in just as brazen a way for the the American troops as well. A pervert Army. Women now are in unprotected man holes of “sacred duty”. Well. This is New Sodom you know. Get thy head out of thy posterior. The circus is over and the carnival is owned by Satan, Inc. You people live in such denial. Uncle Sam works security for “the firm” and has recently gotten a pay cut. Now we must fight for firms and interests that are spoon fed to you bozos of the church as “fighting terrorism”. Spare me. There are reasons why people of other cultures hate us. We did it the old way! We earned it.
You know it all makes sense. JAG groups, especially Army are notorious for homosexual sex. Have been for years. Those guys are the establishment homos. Heterosexual intimidation will follow suit to all this neo-tolerance like a cockroach follows the smell of humans. Next for the military is “pedophiles considered normal by Admiral Lock and Load. Says it’s time for the military to break some new ground…blah, blah, bulllahahablah..blah…” Yeh, and the cry will go up from Sodom once again. And we are in for another humbling. Oh we are going to be dealt with.
Fair enough Marianne.
You have good responses. I wish I was more positive. That’s really what Jesus wants us to be. (I don’t believe I would be bowing to Allah or getting my head cut off if our troops weren’t there)
I should have read some of those articles more closely, I posted. They’re socialist. I’m surprised you didn’t point it out. Thank You! I do like to look at both sides.
I just want people to be educated, to question and to research things.
Don’t accept what I say or anyone else. Find out for yourself.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/shaffer8.html
Here some web sites to check out:
Just follow the links. That’s what I did.
http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Henry_Makow
Henry Makow
FEMINISM IS GENOCIDE. PORNOGRAPHY IS COMMUNISM. THE NEW WORLD ORDER IS GAY.
The man himself.
Henry Makow✡ is a man with a lot to say, who makes a lot of bold claims about the IRL world that he often can’t back up, citing evidence of a conspiracy but offering no proof. Hailing from Canada, and being rather old, he gives the impression of being a wise old man who would give advice to young males in today’s politically correct world given that he has been around for a long while. His views, rather right-wing in nature, purport that there is an “Illuminati conspiracy outlined in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion” and that this is real and is destroying our world as we know it. Yes.
This coming from a Jewish person.
His website, which was formerly savethemales.ca, often contains lulzy articles about how the reshaping of society is occuring by this ruling elite, and he claims to be “exposing feminism and the new world order”. Therefore, the articles are a bizarre mixture of New World Order shit of the David Icke variety and how women are behaving in such an immoral way and should get out of the workplace, back in the kitchen and get pregnant and married and generally be subordinate to men in every way (however Makow does not endorse Simon Sheppard’s website – source). It is thought that at least 99% of his readers are sexually frustrated male college students, who are not getting laid due to the virtue of the fact that they are reading Henry Makow’s website and will thus be never as good as this. Still, he’s better than a Zionist-sponsored fake conspiracy theorist cunt like Alex Jones who exists to draw people off the scent.
Henry Makow was born in Switzerland to Jew immigrant parents who had escaped the Holocaust. He had an advice column in newspapers in the Sixties which his parents’ connections managed to get him called Ask Henry. Later in the 80s he made mega bucks from creating his own board game called Scruples. He also has got a P.h.D. in English literature, although many of his articles are written with one sentence per paragraph rather like a tabloid newspaper for the uneducated proletariat, only the content is different. Very different indeed to what you would find, in, say, one of Rupert Murdoch’s publications, as he is obviously an agent of the international mind control agenda.
Despite his right-wing views, Henry Makow is not a white supremacist. Being Jewish, how could he possibly be? One of his main works is A Long Way To Go For A Date, his book about how Western, white women are not suitable marriage partners for Western, white males because they have no respect for men and are more likely to sleep with niggers. In this book, Henry Makow goes to the Philippines and finds a nice young Filipino loli to stick his cock in. He advises that all white males do the same by following his example, but later he divorced her and goes back on that and is now willing to defend “positive racism”.
He says that his life up until about age 50 was ruined by assuming that the feminist, liberal way of life that is pretty much mandatory nowadays (missing his chance to have a family), and that the “New World Order” seeks the destruction of heterosexuality and the family in order to implement a “depopulation agenda”. This is already happening of course in Europe where they have a fertility rate of about 1.5 children per woman, so they have to import Muslims and Africans in order to pay for the pensions of old baby boomers who believed in the utopian, liberal, hippie ideologies that were spoonfed to them in the Sixties as part of this depopulation agenda which seeks to have Europe, racially speaking, look something like Brazil in 100 years time, because the Zionists want to promote miscegenation, homosexuality, casual sex, the destruction of the family and things like that because they don’t like ordinary white people and generally want them to disappear as fast as possible and be replaced by African negroes. As an atypical, anti-Zionist Jew, Henry Makow realises this and sees how destructive it is. Makow reviewed a book called The Culture of Critique by an academic called Kevin MacDonald which basically says that Jews out-compete non-Jews for resources in today’s Western world and pretty much agreed with it.
Recently the Canadian Jewish Congress filed a lolsuit against Henry Makow for ‘defamation’. It’s extremely ironic that the son of Holocaust survivors would be accused of stirring up racial hatred (“stirring up” being a stupid expression that the lawmakers like to use; is racial hatred a flavour of soup?) against Jews. However it’s thought that Makow won the case.
http://www.savethemales.ca/000180.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/000185.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/000585.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/200202.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/001904.html
http://www.savethemales.ca/150801.html
http://www.yourtango.com/201087202/women-without-kids-80-percent-30-years-ago
http://davidswanson.org/warisalie
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=22305
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EXI/is_2_18/ai_73063458/
http://www.think-aboutit.com/Omega/files/omega29.htm
(I don’t believe I would be bowing to Allah or getting my head cut off if our troops weren’t there)
Hey Kitti,
Our military presence has definitely deterred the above.
All-Female U.S. Marines Battalion
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/All-Female-US-Marines-Battalion/ss/events/us/120910fetmarines#photoViewer=/ydownload_getty/20101209/photos_net_web_yn/1291918299
Lyndsey;
I don’t agree. I think we are fueling it. The belief and the instinct might have been there all along, but we poured Gasoline on it.
Did Muslims create Aids Virus in a laboratory and vaccinate the gay community and then the black community in Africa with it?
Did the Muslims put Anthrax in the mail?
Do you want me to list all the biological terrorism in the world that is going on? Do the Muslims want to mircrochip you? Do they want to control the food supply? Did the Muslims create the detention camps to put people when they rebel when Martial Law is declared?
I forgot, all this surveilance is there to keep us safe. Give me a break.
Sometimes I feel like I’m talking to a brick wall on this blog. No matter how many videos, links, facts etc I post you you guys stick with the same propaganda. That’s what it is.
Give me some facts and details about Arab and Muslim population in the U.S.
There are approximately 3 million Arabs in the U.S. and 75% of them are Christian. Generally speaking, the Muslim Arabs didn’t start to come to the U.S. until the late 1960s. There are about 7 million Muslims in the U.S., about 40% are African American and the other 60% are a mix of immigrants, primarily from Southeast Asian and the Arab World.
Arabs have been in the U.S. since the Revolutionary War, but the heaviest influx of Arabs, primarily Lebanese and Syrian, started coming in the early part of the last century and they were Christian Arabs. Arabs that came in the late 1960s were more largely Muslim. The Christian Arabs who first came were mainly escaping religious persecution, and the Muslims who came later were dealing with the growing instability in the region, such as civil wars.
http://aidsbiowar.com/page1.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=Iwa-lSVqA1M&vq=medium
THE FINAL INSPECTION
The Soldier stood and faced God,
Which must always come to pass.
He hoped his shoes were shining,
Just as brightly as his brass..
‘Step forward now, Soldier ,
How shall I deal with you?
Have you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?’
The soldier squared his shoulders and said,
‘No, Lord, I guess I ain’t.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can’t always be a saint.
I’ve had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough.
And sometimes I’ve been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.
But, I never took a penny,
That wasn’t mine to keep…
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.
And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear..
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I’ve wept unmanly tears.
I know I don’t deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears
If you’ve a place for me here, Lord,
It needn’t be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don’t, I’ll understand.
There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the saints had often trod.
As the Soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.
‘Step forward now, you Soldier,
You’ve borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven’s streets,
You’ve done your time in Hell.’
Author Unknown~
It’s the Soldier, not the reporter
Who has given us the freedom of the press.
It’s the Soldier, not the poet,
Who has given us the freedom of speech.
It’s the Soldier, not the politicians
That ensures our right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness..
It’s the Soldier who salutes the flag,
Who serves beneath the flag,
And whose coffin is draped by the flag.
If you care to offer the smallest token of recognition and appreciation for
the Military, please pass this on and pray for our men and women
who have served and are currently serving our country and pray for those
who have given the ultimate sacrifice for freedom….
THESE COLORS DON’T RUN
AMEN!
WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE!
God Bless Our Military
I appreciate your support for the American troops who are not to blame for the hideous situation they are in. You are partly correct in that the media does not communicate the true reality of war, however the American presence in Iraq is not about saving Iraquis. More American troops who were in Iraq have now killed themselves than were actually killed in Iraq. Please watch this clip of American soldiers sharing their experiences and perhaps you will understand a little more about what’s going on.
rachel
American soldiers are responsible for their own decisions and actions. It is not American policy to dehumanize civilians. And those who testified that they saw destroyed buildings did not say they saw American troops do this.
There is an enemy in Iraq who believes in destroying buildings and people. We are there to stop them. Sometimes, we can’t. We get there too late.
People act like only American soldiers are there, and all the destruction is due to them. This is really ignorant. Islamic terrorists are very eager to claim the destruction they create. There is no sense in claiming we did something that they actually did.
Many of the civilians are actually combatants. The terrorists do not wear uniforms to distinguish them from civilians. The Muslim culture is not like ours. They believe in equipping children with guns and having them fight. This is a monstrous thing to do. No matter what the age, someone with a gun in dangerous. A soldier has the choice of being killed or shooting back. This is war. People will be killed.
Also, civilians harbor the terrorists in their buildings. There is no difference between a terrorist with a gun and someone who protects them.
This whiny video acts like having terrorists kill Americans is ok, but it is not ok to kill back, to stop them. people die in war. Americans try to avoid civilians. They do not intentionally target them. This is the opposite approach Islamic terrorists take. They want to kill civilians and then blame the Americans for the death. They live to die. It is glory to them.
If the extremist Muslims were not killing the people of Iraq, we would not be there to begin with. As the soldiers admit, they could not tell who was safe and who was not, because over there, everyone is brainwashed and dangerous.
Terrorists also use their children and families for human shields. It may be very possible that a terrorist would be found with children and family, and have to be dragged out of the house. this is the cowardice of them, to hide behind the innocent. This dragging out is not humiliation. This is justice.
What you see in the video is a transfer of blame, from those who are truly evil to those who are trying to stop the evil.
These who testified have obviously fallen victim to propaganda and are now spreading it. They cannot see the reality of who started this, and who is evil anymore. They let their emotions rule, rather than facts. That is unfortunate that they do not have the intelligence to see they are being brainwashed also.
These people perceptions are so screwed up. We invaded because of necessity. The terrorists were already having a civil war with each other. They were already killing each other. We went to stop that and save the civilians, not kill them. We are not occupiers. We came and rebuilt Iraq after Saddam destroyed so much. WE built hospitals, schools, homes, oil fields that Saddam set on fire, we gave out military and financial aid, and trained the people to fight the terrorists themselves.
We did not come to take their country. WE did not start that war. AL Queda started the war on terror, not us, and we have the right to pursue them. You are missing the true goal, which is terror and death to enemies, of Islam. These ignorant soldiers are tools of propaganda for some liberal agenda. They have been exploited for political purposes. I saw the same thing happen 40 years ago regarding Vietnam.
Invading Iraq was constitutionally correct. We had just cause.
I’m curious, does god prefer atomic weapons to conventional bombs? Where does god stand on the use of depleted uranium or white phosphorous? Does god condone the use of shock and awe? How about carpet bombing?
These and other questions plague me because I seem to recall that god gave tablets to Moses saying “Thou shalt not kill”.
sometimes those weapons are necessary when the enemy attacks first……unless you think it is ok to just submit to abuse and being slaughtered
Forgive me for being out of the loop the last six months. So, what you’re saying is that god really didn’t mean it when he said thou shalt no kill. He was pulling Moses’s leg. What he meant to say is thou shalt not kill unless you (W) want to further your interests in the gulf by convincing the gullible American public, reeling in the aftermath of 9/11, that another group of Muslims (whom you (W) later admit had nothing to do with 9/11 and had no connection with Al Qaeda) had fictitious WMDs and were going to use those fictitious weapons against us.
God help the good-hearted, naive Americans who think they are doing god’s work by slaughtering hundreds of thousands of muslims in his name.
Marianne, I hope you never come to grips with how much harm you and your gullible, nonsensically patriotic buffoons have perpetrated on this planet.
rick
the same god that said thou shall not murder, ( not thou shall not “kill”) also told the Israelites to kill off ALL the canaanites when they entered the land, in order to possess it.
God has many times given orders to kill off wicked people because they defiled the earth. Once he did it by himself, and this was the great flood of Noah’s time, when God had no issue of killing off all the deviant and perverse people who honored satan rather than him.
those same canaanites and their brood are still there causing trouble because the Israelites did not do completely as they were told
AL queda committed 911….and has admitted it… it does not matter what internet gossip says.
WMDS were moved to Syria. There were witnesses. This occurred in the 6 month delay before the war started…they were still hoping to find some still there…..
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-syria-wmd-conspiracy/
I hope you understand the harm there is covering up for Islamic terrorists.
Evil is evil, and if a terrrorist comes in my yard to harm my family, I will shoot him, no matter how much you like him, and think I am wrong.
I wonder if i could meet a soldier face to face so i could tell him/her how thankful i am that they would risk their lives for me
hi audrey
There is most likely a military base somewhere close to you. You could give them a call and say thanks.
Marianne, no one likes terrorists except other terrorists. If a terrorist came onto my property intent on harming my family, of course I would do anything to stop him/her.
Satan is the symbol for the enemy, those that seek to harm us, control us and steal our riches.
God is no more than a symbol for our imagined protector and benefactor. The paternal figure whom we have created to make us feel that we are not alone in this vast, unknowable universe.
I gather that you are a person of faith. You have a right to your faith. You do not have the right to slaughter innocents.
All of that nonsense about WMDs in Syria is hogwash, propaganda invented by empire builders to excuse their irresponsible, devilish invasion of Iraq and the reckless murder of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians.
It was all about the oil and the hegemony of the USA in the Gulf. Research all of the oil contracts that multinationals have signed with the Iraqi government and the semi-illegal Kurdish government in the north where much of the untapped oil fields lie. Getting rid of Saddam threw the doors open to predatory oil companies, headed by the wealthiest few who will be wealthier still.
The price for this fabulous gain for the global elite was paltry: a few hundred thousand Muslims, and the lives and limbs of American soldiers.
“And God looked down and saw that it was good.”
the Muslims there kill each other….they have been killing each other for centuries before we ever went there…we try to stop it.
but we will leave soon, and they will continue to kill each other….
sadaam was a butcher who terrorized his own people…..
he used to put humans into meat grinders feet first just to hear them scream….and then he made his boys watch and get used to it, so they would learn to be like him.
think what you want…you get your opinions from the opinions posted on the internet.
even the bible says God will kill most of the middle east arab population.
so they are not innocent to him
You are sadly mistaken regarding our “great success” in the mid-east. Over 1.5 million Iraqis lost in this bloodshed. Not to mention the sanctions that killed countless numbers of infants, sick people, and elderly during the Clinton Regime.
This is no success at all. Universities and colleges existed in the ancient nation of what is now known as Iraq. An English colonial invention and under Saddam Hussein Iraq was bolstered and Hussein was aided and given his WMD’s by the “Christian” U.S. and leaders of confusion like Ronald Reagan. Rumsfeld practically kissed Saddam when they were readying the engine of war and giving him “God’s Blessing” on fighting Iran.
Later in 1991, Bush Sr. actually ok’d his invasion of Iraq but turned on his word when the perverse U.S. protected Saudis and that Brit witch the Iron Lady objected to Iraq’s take over of it’s own ancient land. Which is no different than Israel’s “right of return”.
Your so-called heroes are sad to say, nothing short of Nazis. You have a land that is becoming already a Fascist state. it’s your’s. Under a “christian” president of the Bush Dynasty your constitution was ripped by the younger Bush of that horrid oil guzzling blood line. Another “christian”. Patriot Act George. “Bring ‘em on!” Yes G-Pilot. Like the Viet Era. Flying over TX.
Under the Bush Invasion of Iraq civilians were intimidated and murdered and just one of the proofs of this extravaganza of blood is that this war of vengeance birthed the highest number of suicides among your glorious God sent army, per capita of any war preceding it. If this duty was so blessed and beautiful and humane, it would not have produced this disgrace. Your rum dumb church blessed this ugly thing and you just can’t face it can you? Your little Larry down the street is probably living a multiple personality life thanks to your government run church and your paid mouthpieces called preachers.
Also, this excrement about the liberal press being so anti-military. Forget it. That old dog can’t even get up to eat anymore let alone hunt. So stupid. The bipartisan support for that war was endless. CNN, New York Times were no different than the “conservative” press, if there really is any. You could have run that game during the Nam lie, but “liberal bias” is a joke when it comes to war and conquest. They all come together. Your pictures of our brave armies are nothing more than propaganda photo ops.
Yeh, we always bomb the living hell out of people and “rebuild their infrastructure” later and we pick their new leaders and we institute worse regimes than were there before. As long as the new death squads work with us. You know, this Christianity of yours just does the limbo to fit everything into this jumbled box of entertainment. Your shame for the church pours out of all and every 5K kg. of bananas your stuffing in a milk container.
You seem to forget that if we were in the old west establishing God’s kingdom you’d be selling pictures of God’s Cavalry. Yes, knowing your ilk, you’d be posting pictures of the “The brave U.S. Calvary rebuilding Native lands and building schools! Yes! Praise God! Yes, and building churches and roads and giving our subjects Christian educations, and fulfilling the destiny of our new Zion.” When I see this ooorah’ crud, I realize you all have not changed one stupid bit. A joke your Jesus is. He’s not mine. We’ll find out who’s the real. I use a KJV and a Geneva. One says basically not to support tyrants. You do. Yes, you do. The American wonderland Christianity. An anti-christ church for an anti-christ impostor.
the shiites and sunnis have been fighting and killing for thousands of years without our help.
We were there to stop them.
they will continue the bloodshed long after we leave.
There is some truth to some of what Distressed Seven has written. There is also a lot missing from their post.
Suddam was sending $20,000 to Hamas for each Jewish murder. That is terrorism. Everyone, including the UN thought Suddam had/made BIO, and Chem weapons.
UN Sanctions were on going for 10 years. They didn’t work. Am I glad we went in? No. Did a lot of people get killed? Yes? Why did we go in?
Some say it was over BIO/Chem weapons, terrorism, and oil. Wars have been fought over energy before, and may be the reason for the next war. However, it appears to me now there is much more going on, and it is a ten year plan. See Egypt, Libya, Syria, etc… to get an idea of what is happening in the Middle East.
The United States Church? There is no such Church. Therefore, war is not supported by any Christian Church. Members of the military are supported by their Churches.
A lot of those who are part of the Tip of the Spear have had the ROE cause them to lose members. Rules of enguagement. That is the reason for so many wounded, and dead Americans.
Those within Islam have been murdering each other before we got there, and will continue to so after we leave. We should have just supplied both sides, and stepped back rather than invade.
What happened 200 years ago is not the same as today. 90% of the native population of North, and South America died by the flu. cold, small pox, and chicken pox. Should anyone be forced to be a Christian? Most of the time I would say no, but in the case of Islam I am torn.
The members of the American military follow their orders. They do not make them.
When an empire like the USA (troops stationed in more than 120 countries) spends more than a trillion dollars and sacrifices the lives and limbs of tens of thousands of servicemen, that empire is acting in its own self-interest, particularly in the self-interest of the wealthy corporate elite who stand to gain the most from such a venture.
Only the terminally naive believe that the corporate elite has an ounce of sympathy for the plight of the Iraqi people, cursed to find themselves living in a parched desert atop a sea of oil and next to the Gulf of Hormuz through which most of the world’s oil and natural gas are shipped.