Reverse apartheid……South Africa cries out for help
I am passing along this cry for help I received from someone in South Africa. Sometimes we only see one view, the one that makes the most noise, or the one that is the biggest group. This is about persecution of white Christians by blacks in Africa, something we do not hear much about.
The Boers are a small group of Christian Dutch colonists that relocated to South Africa in the 18th century, to find a place to farm.
They legally bought the land, and now it is being taken away, and they are being persecuted for just being white and Christian.
The letter:
I live in South Africa in a country where it is okay to murder, kill rape, steal and name any sin you want to, if you are black. Here they already murdered more than 4000 farmers, but they will carry on about 4 student that just wanted to initiate black people to their hostel. All of a sudden it is taken out of total context. The world is running with it. But what is really important, is not important. Our sons and daughters are fearing for their lives.
We live in fear.
You may murder, rape, sodomize, and lock up people for years with out a proper trial, if you are black. In my country we live behind bars.
Private security budget is nearly the same as our police budget. There is hardly any border control. People from neighboring countries are streaming into our country because, in their countries, there is not enough food.
If I were them I would have done exactly the same but our infrastructure can’t take it. We are top heavy. The government officials are stealing money from the poor.
The people that must build houses for the poor are stealing the money, they build sub standard houses and pocket the rest. Farms that are bought by the government from white farmers, and given to black farmers, is not producing enough food.
Those farmers only produce enough food for themselves or they are a total failure, like all the other black nations around us. There is just not enough real farmers left on the ground. But still they carry on murdering our farmers.
They kicked out the people with the skills to run the factory’s, mines, schools, electricity, etc. They put people in charge that have no idea how to run it. They even kicked out the people that know how to maintain it. This is all over Africa.
Just go and see what is going on in all the Africa nations. Starvation. wars. Oh this people love making war and call it freedom, but all they want is money, money, money, not taking care of their people
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In my country we gave them big parts of the country which is theirs now. We also gave them the money to build up their country, but they did not want to do that, they want what did not belong to them, that is their tradition. They are not prepared to work for it.
Countries, world wide, keep on giving money to Africa to make war. They keep on feeding them so they don’t have to plough the fields and provide for themselves. People that don’t work for a living give Satan their time.
Stop giving money to Africa, stop giving them weapons because they are destroying themselves, and stop providing for Africa and their statesmen.
AND STOP BELIEVING THEM THAT WE STOLE THERE LAND. BECAUSE IT IS NOT TRUE. When the Dutch came to South Africa, they bought the ground from the people. And as the white people move into the country, vast amounts of land, there was no people living there.
And where there was people living, our leaders went to so the head of that tribe, and bought the land from the people. So please tell me why we must give our country that we build up to them.
Why could they not build up their part of country as we did ours. They love to tell the world we suppressed them, they don’t tell the world that they love to make war, and take what does not belong to them, because they think it is their right.
We provided them with schools, hospitals, universities. We provide them with the means to build up there country. But they are a lazy bunch. It is easier to take than to build.
They are liars, and the world believes them. They told the world that we supplied sub standard education and hospitals that is a lie. They burn down their schools, destroy their country, because WHY MUST WE WORK HARD if it is already there.
And the world believes their serpent language. And discriminated against the BOER people have always been God fearing people. We wanted a place where we can live with God. That is why we try to help them also.
God’s people can’t walk hand in hand with Satan people. It is forbidden. Since they have taken over the country, Satan is loose in this country.
But God also sent us a man that walked with God, and he told us this is going to happen. But that we must not loose faith, that the Lord will restore this country but not in the way we think. He also told us it will get much darker before the light will returns, and the only thing that will save us is our trust in the Lord our Savior. He also said that this country will be a save place for people that will flee for their beliefs. He also said that the people that don’t believe will die or flee out of this country.
But WE MUST HOLD ONTO THE LORD JESUS OUR SAVIOR. PLEASE PRAY FOR MY COUNTRY AND THE PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN JESUS because there is so many people that has lost faith.
There is so many beliefs here that is speaking serpent language. That our people is losing their way. Some of our big churches has lost the way totally, they are saying Jesus did stand up out of the dead, that it was only his spirit, He did not go to the heaven in the way that the Bible says, that the old testament is only a story.
PLEASE PRAY FOR MY PEOPLE.
That they will hold on to the Lord Jesus, our savior, because that is our only Hope. Our children and grand children must learn now in our schools all the religions. We are trying to build schools for our children, where we can educate them.
But I fear we are loosing the battle, to many people has lost there faith. But I know if Christians all over the world will start praying for the Christian in this country we will survive.
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Do you know how many of the so called Christian people in this country is shouting “KILL THE BOER. ONE BULLET, ONE BOER.!!”
Do you know how our children is indoctrinated, do you know how our moral standards is destroyed amongst our girls. That our sons have higher standards.
Do you know how our children are raped, sodomized, crippled or killed? Do you know how our old people is raped, sodomized, crippled, that there soles of their feet is cut off, hot water is poured over them, burned with cigarettes etc?
That husbands are forced to watch while there wife is raped, sodomized and sometimes cut open if they are pregnant. Children must watch while these ungodly things is done to their parents. Parents must watch while these ungodly things is done to their children. We are not aloud to defend ourselves if we do we go to jail.
Please pray that you don’t ever go to jail in this country. Black men in jail sodomize our men. They are deliberately put in with this type of men. Or they get robbed of the little they have including their clothes.
No. I don’t live in a terrorist country according to the world. I live in a country with no respect for God, and His word.
They use the Word as they see fit. And that is the work of the SERPENT.
They even went back to there old traditions of praying to their fore fathers. [I assume she means something similar to voodoo here]
PLEASE PRAY FOR MY PEOPLE THE BOERS.
Hate for the black people of this country is flaring. Where there was no hate before there is now. Where there was respect for other people before, there is no respect.
And the problem is that the black people of Africa are their own downfall, because they listen to people that speak serpent language. Very few black people uphold the 10 commandments.
And our Lord says you won’t walk with this people. You won’t mix with this people. Except to bring the Word to them. That we did, but they want more. They are never satisfied.
So PLEASE PRAY FOR US.
This is not a terrorist country, but a Serpent country. That is worse.
You don’t fight a visible enemy, but an invisible enemy that manifests itself in the people. You may tell the world.
*****Please pray for the Boers in South Africa. Thank you.
See also South Africa – the second cry for help Click here for more
Reference (more information on the Boers culture)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boers





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Reverse apartheid……South Africa cries out for help « Heaven Awaits said this on May 9, 2008 at 12:02 am |
wow, I live in south Africa and couldn’t have said it better than she did. All she says is true.
If you don’t believe her come and live here for a while not just as a tourist in the ” safe places ”
Please pray for our country
Bee,
Your area has already been put on my prayer list. I had no idea what was going on until I got the letter. I never heard from her again either, and I pray she is ok. I also notice that certain dutch sites have been linking to my site. I can see this on my administrative page.
This is horrible, and should not be true. People from there need help. Maybe it will end up being someone with authority outside the country who has read about this.
God bless you
marianne
Hello,
Hope you are well. I have every doubt of your purchasing the land and of finding the land empty. That sounds too close to the lie in the USA about Manifest Destiny. Historians always leave the bad parts out or twist the truth in their own histories. This is a world wide occurance. Fact is that the lighter skinned Euorpean people have been oppressing the darker skinned peoples for a very long time. This isn’t only in South Africa but all around the world. So if what you are saying is indeed happening I would point you to the scripture that you reap what you sow. That may sound cruel but it is true. I will pray for you and I suggest that you follow the teachings of Jesus. Mathew 5:44 “Love your enemies.” For you see your ancestors have done the darker people a very grevious injustice. If what you are saying is true than you are getting the same horrible treatment. This does not justify it by any means it just helps you understand it.The answer is to break the cycle. Return the hate with Love that is what Jesus did.
Love,
John
John it is just that more intense in South Africa simply because we hold the land that has to provide a home to you and your descendants during the last days, when much of TRUE Christianity will relocate here, as their countries will become uninhabitable due to military action that will even burn the very soil.
This country has always seen the most intense battles between satan and Jesus, that is what apartheid REALLY was about – to keep the communist atheist from taking over power. The idiotic free West, however, did satan a favour by ensuring that the antichrist rises to power here.
The Afrikaner (also called Boer) comes from 40% Dutch, 40% German, 9% French, 9% Scottish and 2% other bloodlines. We came here to establish Christianity but were soon overpowered by the British, whom wasted no time in putting mineral resources under the power of the illuminati, headed by the qreen…..
The rich British communists were the FIRST to write apartheid laws into their constitution….. They burnt our farms, killed thousands upon thousands of our women (Just Google “South African War” or “Anglo-Boer war” and see what comes up.
The fight against the darks side has always been very, very intense. Then came the Belgian Dr hendrik verwoerd in 1961 and turned South Africa into racial mayhem with his Nazist government. But don’t be fooled into blaming us Afrikanesr for everything. The uprisings on June 16, 1976, was planned in the Kremlin by the mid/late 1950′s as was discovered by gerard Ludi, undercover security police officer whom had infiltrated the sa communist party and even had an office in the Kremlin!
Recommended reading: Operation Q-018 by Gerard Ludi as wellas A History of Communism in South Africa by Dr Henry R Pike.
Breaking the cycle, John, will need you to go and kill satan….. this is no ordinary matter, but one that goes hand-in-hand with end time events. it cannot be compared with any other region as the reason for the battle is different.
I would suggest that you come to south africa and do your bit of breaking the cycle, come see for yourself what is going on. I have spent a lifetime alongside Christ jesus and understand what you are saying, all I am also saying is that talk remains cheap. I challenge you to prove your worth in making the esssential difference here. and if you have success in practice HERE, then tell us to follow your good example.
before you get onto the plane, check with Dr Bruce Wiliknson first…he came to do what you have said, and left… Oprah had her disappointments…it is NOT comparable to anywhere else. it really is rather unique….
Hi John,
Wasn’t it the black Muslims who sold their brothers into slavery to begin with?
I could be wrong, but I do not think this particular group of settlers were oppressive.
I do agree that all oppression should stop, and love should take over.
marianne
John,
The Bible also says “Ths children shall not be put to death for the fathers, nor the fathers for the children, but every man shall be put to death for his own sin.” This woman did not “sow” what she is now “reaping”. You reap what YOU sow, not what your ancestors sowed. In this situation, you’re required to give encouragement and to pray, not to give a “history lesson” about how these people deserve their plight because of the sins of their ancestors. I will pray for God’s Peace on this woman and her nation.
Duane.
Thank you for your comment. I really pray that the love of Christ erases past generational curses on everyone. We do not have to be victims of any past, or current abuse. God will help us all, if we trust in Him.
marianne
Hello,
Hope you are well. No the Dutch had a very big part in the slave trade though I’m not sure those in South Africa participated in it.
Duane Williams that scripture from Ezekiel is referring to how God views and judges. God has the remarkable ability not to be influenced by the past and looking at each soul individually. Unfortunately most of us humans don’t have that ability to act impartially. That is why the hatred caused by wars are passed on from generation to generation. Ask a man in Georgia about how he feels about General Sherman and thus the North, one day. Or you could have asked my Polish grand father why he hated the Russians so much.
I know something about South Africa from the Bergs who attended church in the Manhattan Church of Christ with me. When I asked them if they were happy after Nelson Mandella’s coming to power and reforms they said they were estatic. They then informed me that the congregation they attended was almays a mix of races.
Let me bring these questions to the people who wrote this article. How did they treat people of darker skin twenty five or thirty years ago? Did they go out and welcome them in their churches? Did they try to build bridges of friendship? Did they fight for the rights of the opressed majority?
We’re not talking about ancient history here. These are times where the writers of the article most likely have lived in unless they are young. Furthermore the action of reconcilliation must originate from the oppressor rather than the oppressed. That is just the nature of reality.
I would that all people live up to the standards of Jesus. But this is impossible. 1 Peter 1:5 starts the building blocks of a Christian with goodness. If only we could just be good people that would be a wonderful start.
But it is important to understand that things happen for a reason. Also we must understand that God is slow in responding to a situation as He acts in His own time frame. One day America will be held accountable for the way the European invaders have committed genocide on the indigenous people and have enslaved the African people. You may ignorantly dismiss this as a “history lesson” as well but it is not. The impact and ramifications of the evils transgressed against these individuals effect their society in a profound way until this day.
I do not know you sir, your race or your beliefs. I’d imagine you are a Christian, but unfortunately in the world today that doesn’t tell me much. I would hope that you are loving God and loving your neighbour as those are the greatest two commands.
Finally when Mandella came to power there were no mass executions. Instead he conducted manners with great nobility. If things have changed I am unaware of this and I would say it is most unfortunate. Still there are reasons why things happen and turning a blind eye to their cause and reducing vibrant emotions and feelings to a “history lesson” is not the answer.
Love,
John
John,
How would you suggest dealing with the current situation? I have to admit, I am not intimately familiar with the history of this region, but I wish that anything wrong be corrected. Anyone injured unfairly up to this point has my deep sympathy.
Marianne
I pray that you don’t feed on the “bait” of satan by focusing on the “blacks” who are doing you and your people wrong. If so, you will be ensnared and weakened by the “Serpent’s” corrupted double-edged sword. I know you are hurting – but is it right to labled a whole group of people based on the actions of a few? So we should stop sending money to Africa, huh? In that case should we stopped sending money to all countries that commit these wicked/evil crimes? Sin is everywhere. Jesus predicted these times (Matt. 24) And, sin is sin whomever it’s in; sin has no “color”. Where is the love of Jesus Christ? Where is the Word of God? You speak on many who are now hating “blacks” in Africa because of these gross and wicked sins. Are these people Christians? If so, Jesus told us to “love” our enemies. Now I realized this can’t be done in the natural. It fact that statement is unnatural. To be honest, I once held hatred and resentment in my heart against a group of people (whites) for what they did (enslaved & killings) to my people. However,I did not realized at the time I was “feeding” of the posioned “bait” on Satan – himself! To be blunt – I was wrong!! – and – in sin!! When the Lord revealed this to me, I had to confess and repent. This was not a easy process for me – but thank God I am healed and delivered!! Amen!! I had to except what Jesus has commanded us to do. And, He would not have commanded us to do this is if it was not possible. In fact, Jesus led by example when He prayed (for his murders) to the Father to “forgive them for they know not what they do” Again, this can’t be done in emotions or feelings. And boy do I know! When I processed things thru my emotion/feelings, I failed. We are not supposed to walk by feelings; we are to “walk by faith – not by sight”. I will pray for the safety of the Boers. And, I will pray for these terrorists to come into the loving grace and salvation of Jesus Christ. To this end, let us pray for – all people – for this is the heart of God. (John 3:16). Peace & God Bless
Hi Pastor Luke.
It is true that divine love is a supernatural event in someone’s life, that can only be accomplished by allowing God to work his will.
marianne
John,
As for your American History lesson, why should America as a whole be judged for the deeds of dead white guys? There is more to America than just white people. I have done extensive research on American history and I know her injustices and hypocrisies all too well. My mother’s side of the family is of Cherokee Nation descent, and the Trail of Tears has been etched into my consciousness. However, I don’t hold these tragedies against innocent white civilians or the modern American Government. Jews have no right to hate Germans(born after WWII), or modern day Romans or Babylonians or Assyrians or Philistines(if there still are any of the last three) or Egyptians. Blacks and American Indians have no right to hate whites who haven’t done any harm to them. Chinese people have no right to blame the rape of Nanking on Japanese children today. Americans have no right to hate Brits today because of the burning of the Capitol, or to hate Japanese citizens because Pearl Harbor was bombed. If all whites in America were to be put into slavery as justice for the enslavement of blacks, would you object? You should, because punishing innocent people who have never owned slaves would not be justice, it would be yet another American tragedy. I do object to the fact that we press the image of a genocidal murdering racist onto our $20 bills and hold him up as some kind of American hero when in reality he was a lowlife scumbag and a coward to whom I will not give the respect of typing his name. BTW, I know all about the differing attitudes on General Sherman, having family in the deep South who resent him and currently living here in William T’s hometown of Lancaster, Ohio, where he is practically worshipped.
Greetings,
Hi hope you are well.
Ev. Duane Williams. You are of course one hundred percent correct that people should be Loving and forgiving. In fact Love is the most essential thing about a Christian and I cite the two greatest commandments and 1 Corinthians 13. God is Love after all. If only that Love was a reality in all people we would have most of our problems dissapear. In fact that is our great hope that when we are caught up with Jesus to be taken home we will indeed in a land without pain, sorrow and suffering. A place so wonderful that we cannot conceive of it now on Earth.
Yet too deny the historical realities that brought us to this place in time is a grave error. The conversation began with what is occurring in South Africa. Just as one can’t understand the United States without it’s history one cannot know any other place. I choose to use American history because it is the one I am most familiar with and one that I guessed others on the blog would be the most familiar with.
Let me say the legacy of all peoples follow them through the generations whether it is consciously or unconsciously. For example the Jews practice the Passover. To ignore the Passover would be a great folly if one wished to understand Jews.
The general point I was trying to make was that there are reasons why things happen. When calamity happens to oneself it is viewed as more than a disaster than if it happens to another.
There is only one way to break the cycle of hatred and destruction on this planet and that is through Jesus Christ. The unselfish, all giving, cross bearing Love that the Son of Man displayed.
But God is also a just God. As you pointed out in your first entry that God looks at each individual uniquely and judges their sin. But we do reap what we sow. This is not an iron clad rule but a general one. For I know babies being aborted or blown up by bombs sowed no evil at all.
But history, the good and evil of man has brought us to this present world. I see that we are on the brink of disaster where hatred and war threatens to distinguish all life. In all this I seek to serve God as best I can.
Have you ever heard of ‘flight’ or ‘fight’. It is a condition that is carried over by some of those originally from Africa who were enslaved in America. There are scientific studies that back up this theory. Basically because of the upbringing these former slaves do not react in a ‘normal’ fashion. Instead they will run or become extremely confrontational. It is traced back to the trauma of slavery and its evils. I heard it explained to me from a woman who was of African descent.
So we are a product of our history. I myself who was a victim of abuse must realize that it plays a part in my life. When I understand why I react to certain things I can then seek a remedy.
This brings me again to what the letter claims to be happening in South Africa. Even if everything is true, which I doubt, there are reasons for their plight. Furthermore the tone of the letter demonizes all Africans. Jesus wants us to Love our enemies.
Certainly anyone acting in the fashion described in the letter would be denying God simply in their actions. But the enlightened Christian should be the one with the wisdom to make peace. Turn the other cheek, bless those that curse you, bear your cross daily, store your treasure in heaven. Aren’t those the Words of Jesus?
Not everyone who claims to be a Christian is a Christian. When I was a child we moved into a neighborhood next to a Dutch farm. They were supposed to be Christians but they were sons of the devil. Their own kin would testify to that and have. I have forgiven them and moved on. Vengance is mine sayeth the Lord.
So you have evil people in the world and many times for very good reasons. Like I said only Love will break the cycle.
Perhaps if the tone of the letter was presented differently. Perhaps if the writer of the letter also simply asked that we pray for the Africans to turn to the Lord. Perhaps if the author of the letter acknowledged the abuse of the darker skinned majority. Perhaps if the author didn’t demonize all of Africa. The letter is a far cry from Jesus’ words on the cross, “Father forgive them for they know not what they do.”
Love,
John
I think throughout history, we have have seen
whites fight whites
Blacks fight blacks
semites fight semites
anti-semites fight semites
whites fight blacks
whites fight other races
chinese fight chinese
russians fight russians
germans fight other europeans
romans fight greeks
british fight turks
french fight french
pakistanis fight indians
meixicans fight americans
arabs fight jews
arabs fight blacks
one religion fight another
they usually fight over property and power. This is not a unique thing. Someone wins, and someone loses….then if the loser wants their property or power back , they revolt and have another fight. The one who is the best prepared wins. The loser is not necessarily a victim. They are just the loser, and they either need to get over it, or re-group and learn to fight better and try again.
slavery has also been around for centuries…ages…..and it is the loser that ends up being the slave…..the slave owners can be good or bad to the slaves. there have been times when slaves actually chose to stay with their owners because their life is actually more secure and better than the way they had it before.
there is a difference between a conflict over property / power and true victimization. Child abuse is victimization. Adults fighting is just that.
If one group is stronger than the other, it means they are more prepared to fight for what they want. If the other one is easily defeated, why are they so far behind technically? Why is one group so much smarter, or stronger, or more educated, or more physically fit, and the other one so much more primitive, illiterate, or clueless in many aspects of life?
In the Africa case, the natives were just that…primitive, most likely practicing voodoo, instead of becoming more civilized. Civilized people are not necessarily evil because they decide to expand their territory. People usually do this when they are too crowded where they are.
I do not approve of hurting anyone, but some people benefit from the leadership of others, esp when they are not advanced to have any of their own. If they are illiterate, whatever schooling they get is better than what they had.
If they know nothing about government, civilization, or democracy, I can see why they would not know what to do with the right to vote anyhow. We have that case today, with illegal immigrants who cannot read or write, but people want to give them the right to vote, so they can get into office. The ignorant aliens have no clue how to contribute to a democratic government.
However, if someone is really being beaten, or raped, the first instinct is to cry out for help. Turning the other cheek is only feeding the abuser. One can forgive, but they should not submit, and they should try to get away from the abuse. Once they get some distance, they can practice forgiveness in peace and safety.
Marianne,
Hi hope you are well.
Your ignorance shines through in a big way. Following your thoughts you would commend the school yard bully for his superiority. I recall a time when the most sophisticated country was Nazi Germany.
Just because a country isn’t advanced in technology does not make them inferior. In fact most likely they were more advanced socially. Also written language is no guarentee of advancement either. Perhaps you have been watching too many movies from Hollywood.
Furthermore if you don’t like turning the other cheek I suggest you take it up with Jesus, those are His words. Turning the other cheek is fufilling the command to Love your enemy. I’m not suggesting someone being raped shouldn’t attempt to escape or run away.
In the context of this discussion “turning the other cheek” or “loving one’s enemies” would mean the Boers going out and embracing their offenders.
I understand that the Boers were in every way very much like the oppressive KKK in America. The KKK after all claims to be Christians as well. Not that it justifies the African natives actions but it helps you understand why they want to do what they are doing.
Love,
John
John,
I am glad to hear from you. I only try to give an alternate view, trying to understand both sides. Please continue to feel free to offer your perspective.
I had understood that the British had come in and actually defeated the Boers for the property, so the Boers were not really in control anymore. For me, I wish they would all live in peace together.
This seems to hit a personal note for you. Do you know people there?
Marianne
Marianne,
The English did takeover. But the Boers are Dutch had larger families so they regained power over the years.
Love,
John
There is a misunderstanding,in the first place I dont hate the black people and my people and some of the black people live in harmony.Till theire leaders greed overtook them because my people work hard and their life stock became more.Then the black people will attack them,kill them if they can.Then my people went out and attack them and bring back our live stock.
Some of our people have still today documents to proof they have bought the land.Some Boer people did not trust them.But most of them have the following Christian attitude,if I have given my word,then it was as good it was written on paper singed and sealed.They expected the same from the other party.They believe if you live the TRUTH and walk in the truth other people will do it also.Then the English came with theire greedy fingers.And everything went down the drain.But the Boer people picked themsefs up with the help of theire Father in Heaven.And rebuild the land again.Then communist came and told the black people again they dont have to work,they can carry on in there tradition to take what does not belong to them instead of starting buld uo there own country.
Not all the black people is like this,but they are only a few.But most of them will steal and kill.
If you cant give that money or food directly to poor and the hungry dont give.Because most of that money and food go to the war makers and the people that is supossinly doing the admin.Or make very sure you give it to a VERY trust worthy organisation.
Thank You to all who carry us in your prairs.
We never have the attention to come to this country to kill.But every time we are forced to defend ourselfs.We just wanted to live in peace and take care of ourselfs,and live near GOD.
Greetings in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST OUR ONLY SAVIOR AND HOPE
Alida,
I believe you. Things like this happen in America too. The wrong people get the blame.
Marianne
And for those that dont believe,this is happening.Go to the following sights and read.
http://www.boerevryheid.co.za/forums/index.php
http://www.citizen.co.za/index/article.aspx?pDesc=66161,1,22
The first one,you will find some article in English to read.
Keep you eyes on Jesus He is coming soon.
As a young white South African im am appalled at this letter. Its is a utter disgrace that someone with this mentality and someone with these thoughts and ideas is allowed to live in the new south Africa. You are seriously sick and need help. May i suggest immigration. The South Africa that you are describing is not the one that i know. You clearly have not accepted the change that has taken place in Mzansi and cannot deal with the fact that this country now belongs to ALL wholive in it. Your facts and figures and opinions are blatantly racist and one only hopes that your miserable, frustrating life does not end in this way. It is disturbing to know that i am living with white people like you in the same country!!! Get a life and grow up – accept the change and move on you prick!!!
Dear John,
Your letter is the first I have gotten that contradicts this letter. Where do you live in relation to what is described? I am interested in all viewpoints.
blessings
marianne
Dear John,I also want to know where you are living.Because it is not in South Africa.Do you read news papers,do you have a TV?
Well it seems you have internet.Go to the following sight and go and see the photos.But a word of caution if you dont have a strong stomach dont look.But if you look start praying that this wont happen to your family.
http://dienuwesuidafrika.blogspot.com/2007/04/die-suidlanders-inligting-dvd-januarie.html
Scroll down till you reach the photos click on the first one and it will open.
Where were you,when the xenophobio was happening.They even put a tire around one persons neck and set it on fire.It was on the news,TV and in the news papers.
You either dont live in South Africa.Or you are a very lucky person.So where are you living,my friends and I would love to move to that part of the country.
Alida
Alida,
John d may not be white, like he says.
marianne
Hi
having lived in South Africa since birth (37 years) I have seen many changes, I did my 2 years national service when I was 18 fighting against the terrorists bombing churches and shopping centres, and then saw the coming of the rainbow nation.
Now please do me a favour and visit http://www.news24.co.za on a regular basis and see what our current leaders are doing to our country.
and yes when I say “our country” it is for all races, I don’t usually argue about politics with people that do not live in said country since they really do not have a clue what is going on.
For example our health minister has recently blamed the C.I.A for starting AIDS in africa, and in a public speech told the nation to go to bed early so we can wake up clever.
2 days ago school kids where picked up to go protest against the constitutional court so that they can drop the charges of corruption against Zuma ( the person who is to be our new president in 2009) so that he does not go to jail…
Many black people have declared a wish for apartheid rule since thay where better off then, now I dont really care who is in charge since I follow God first and only pay my taxes ( render onto Caesar) but to blame the white South Africans who landed on these shores and created this country 150 years before the first black people came here (fleeing from Central Africa) is wrong.
Now most Americans know nothing about South Africa and visa versa, but I can tell you now nobody is safe in this country under current rule and our(communist trained) leaders are as far from God as I am from the moon.
South Africa was once rated as one of the few Christian Nations in the world alas that has disappeared and it feels like Satan has taken over.
before you flame me down, please go do your homework on our history from the beginning
God Bless and pray for us all
Dear Robert,
It is interesting that you mentioned the “rainbow nation” A black rights movement here is called the “rainbow coalition.”
I would not “flame you down.” My desire is to give white farmers and others in south africa a fair view, and a voice, so others will know their situation. I am willing to help in any way I can.
My opinion is that opinionated, uneducated people have no talent to fairly rule others. Your current government sounds like it is ruled by these kinds of people.
blessings and prayers
marianne
thank You Marianne
the”flaming” was not aimed at you, but from experience when people’s posts go against what they want to believe (see some of the above responses) it is easier to try break them down than to have intelligent debate.
And yes our current government (irrespective of the color of their skin) is corrupt and rotten to the core.
The “Rainbow nation” was supposed to be the new utopia once Mandela was released from prison and took over, but the people that fought ( blew up churches etc.) for the right to govern South Africa seem to have lost sight of those ideals and are now only concerned with lining their own pockets at the expense of ALL citizens, so the whole “Rainbow Nation” is debunk.
I thank you for your willingness to be impartial and fair, and hopefully more people will see that open discussion is more constructive than narrow minded preconceived opinions (mostly not their own but like sheep to scared to stand as individuals)
Lucky for us their are Christians like Angus Buchan trying to make a difference, if you have never heard of him read the link below for a short history on this simple man who through Christ can get 35 000 people to gather together in His name at any given time.
http://www.joymag.co.za/mag/3-2006/3-2006-angus.php
Robert
4 666 4 Mandela and his people never had these ideals that they tell you about – atheist Communist Karl Marx and his ideas were firmly rooted in the blacks from the Eastern Cape where andela hails from……and their late 1800′s riots and sensesless violence ever since is what GAVE RISE TO APARTHEID in the first instance. Apartheid was a necessary evil to protect various minority groups, black and white, and to keep the constitution there for God. Now the stan has his in place………
Kimberley – A woman has told how she “screamed and screamed” while she was allegedly being raped by four men after she was locked up in a police cell with them early on Sunday morning.
The rape ordeal lasted about three hours, Monica Kanyane, 19, from Galeshewe, said on Monday.
“Police arrested me on Sunday morning and then locked me up in a cell with the four men. The men were at the back of the cell.”
Kanyane was apparently arrested and locked up for being drunk in public.
“There was a bed in the cell and I went to lie down on it. One man kicked me awake. I screamed for help, but nobody came to help me.”
‘The men took turns’
She said she was then repeatedly raped by all four men.
“I was crying. The men took turns. At about 06:00 the police arrived and I told them what had happened. I had to make a statement and was taken to the Kimberley hospital. I also saw a counsellor this morning (Monday).”
She said the policemen had apologised to her, but she was angry at the officials who had locked her up with the men.
“My stomach felt like it was turning inside out. They must lock up men like that in a separate cell.”
Dan Morema, provincial head of the Independent Complaints Directorate, said on Monday the case had been reported to them.
Tomboy
“The complainant said police had called her a tomboy and said she had to be locked up with the four men in the cell. She was then raped.”
Morema said the Independent Complaints Directorate’s preliminary investigation had indicated that police had helped the woman to open a case of rape.
“They also helped her get medical care. The case file has been given back to police for further investigation. The official who locked up the woman with the men will be dealt with by the department.”
Police spokesperson Constable Sergio Kock said police were investigating the allegations against the respective police members. “The investigation is continuing.”
# Kanyane gave permission for her name to be used.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2382493,00.html
NO LAW & ORDER NOBODY CARES WE ARE ALL DOOMED
Robert,
I think the policemen knew what would happen when they put the woman in there to begin with.
You say “nobody cares.” Well, I do. Find a way to leave there. What do you do for a living?
blessings
marianne
Kubheka said he did not think the “kill the farmer, kill the boer” slogan constituted hate speech.
web designer and bianca & I do(did) property – http://www.fullview.co.za
thank you Mariaane for your support
God Bless
had a awesome night last night – our small congregation got together to start the Biblical Portrait of Marriage course and we could feel the Holy Spirit’s presence
the above rape case is made worse by the fact that both the victim and the police where black, no compassion even for their own kind, it seems that they have gone back a few hundred years and become savages.
The Democratic Alliance is to take the African National Congress, the South African Communist Party and Congress of South African Trade Unions (Cosatu) to the newly established Equality Court for incitement to violence.
This comes after members of the tripartite alliance brandished posters saying “Kill the boer, kill the farmer” outside the Phalaborwa magistrate’s court in Limpopo on Tuesday. Other posters waved outside the court read “Tired with the boers” and “Castrate the boers”.
this is after a black man was murdered, yet whites get murdered by the dozen on a daily basis – it is sad how instead of making a difference as they promised to get white votes to come into power they have decided to rather exterminate us.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_A…383162,00.html
Durban – A policeman is being charged with corruption after he allegedly took R500 from the suspected rapist of an eight-year-old girl.
Police are now investigating other instances of alleged corruption by Inspector Kistasamy Pillay, 44, from the unit for family violence, child protection and sexual offences in Kokstad, after case files and documents from other cases were allegedly found at his home.
The price of a childs innocence.. R500..
Does anyone know of anything bad happening in the Cape Town area? My friend is being sent there to live as a missionary. And how far is Cape Town from all this violence?
Hi Decie,
I am sending you an email with a response.
blessings
marianne
Shoot me too, that’s OK. You’ve murdered my husband and I can’t live without him.”
These were the words of Jeanette Greig, 64, to the robbers that had shot her husband, David, 65, only minutes before on Friday night.
“They threatened to kill me after David had closed his eyes for the last time,” she said.
“I no longer cared, because they had taken my loving, funny and generous partner from me.”
David, an immigrant from Wales who came to South Africa in 1967, died in exactly the same spot where his seventy-two-year-old mother, Hannah, was shot by robbers in 1996.
‘Don’t be scared’
Jeanette said she woke up when her husband rubbed her shoulder and told her not to be scared.
“The armed man at the foot of our bed demanded that I unlock the kitchen door for his two companions,” she said on Wednesday.
She went to the kitchen while the men outside held up her husband with another firearm through the bedroom window.
“David must have got away, because suddenly he was there with us. Several shots rang out, from inside and outside the house, during a struggle for the gun,” she said.
Jeanette said the murderer watched coldly as her husband sank to the ground, before shooting him yet again in cold blood.
She was badly assaulted and stabbed with a blunt knife after the other men also gained access to the house.
Fled with just R1 200
A hard knock against the head burst her eardrum and has caused permanent hearing loss.
“I knew David was dead, but I wasn’t allowed to go to him,” she said.
Forty-five minutes later the men fled with only R1 200. Jeanette went to ask some farmworkers to call for help.
His son, David jnr said: “My father would not have wanted to be regarded as just another murdered farmer.
“I think it would be his wish that his cruel death should spur on the farming community to actively join the police in fighting this crime.”
“Despite my grandmother’s murder and the high crime rate, he never spoke of leaving South Africa. He believed in this country.”
Another farmer murdered for 121$
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2460641,00.html
Harare – A South African farmer in Zimbabwe had to slaughter 1 000 of his pigs and feed the meat to crocodiles because farm invaders had decided that no pig feed would be allowed on the farm.
Louis Fick has been farming with pigs, crocodiles, cattle, fish and grain near Chinhoyi since 1993.
He said the last of 3 500 pigs will be finished off within weeks, while all his cattle had already been killed.
This is partly due to the ban on animal feed and partly because the senior Reserve Bank official who had seized the farm in July 2007 was limiting Fick’s farming activities to 5ha of the 400ha farm.
Nothing was happening on the rest of the land, said Fick from Zimbabwe on Wednesday.
http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2460662,00.html
destroy the farms and kill the farmers and the rest of Africa starves
Hi Robert.
Those are such tragic stories. And how cruel. And how stupid to deny feed, so that others will not starve.
My heart goes out to all of you.
blessings and love
marianne
thank you Marianne
It is so sad what’s happening here
HI Robert,
Can people get visas and leave?
marianne
Well, I’ve been to SA, and I’ve been to Zimbabwe, and it’s not as bad as it is in Zimbabwe that’s for sure. For blacks and whites alike.
I live in South Africa, and I am a Christian. Life here is getting worse by the day – and the responses up here from people NOT living here should be ignored! I try my best not to hate anyone, but I have to ask the Holy Spirit to help me everyday. I went through a armed robbery at a friends house – 4 black men with guns held us for more than an hour – doing whatever they wanted, hiting us, kicking us, a loaded gun against your head is not easy to live through – I prayed the whole time. I should be dead – but I am alive because of God’s grace.If you don’t know what it is like to pray for your life, and eventually saying to God that you don’t know what to pray anymore – then please don’t judge articles written out of desperation John. It was not easy to forgive them for making me feel like less than a dog, making me feel unsafe in my home, making me want to leave a country I love, making me want to hate, making me scared of all black people and making me negative about my future – but I try to forgive because Jesus forgave me. So yes, please pray for us in South Africa – ALL of us in South Africa.
x-x
dear Africa
You have my wholehearted support and prayers. I sit here and ponder what to do about this. I am in a different country.
I pray God’s protection over you, and endless mercies. May He put a hedge of angels around you, to fight off all evil and keep you safe.
Dear Marianne.
Can I suggest that you help us South Africans by raising more awareness about our plight using whatever means and facts you have at your disposal. I fear that this whole situation will explode pretty soon and the world will be shocked at what is going to happen in South Africa. Perhaps there is still a peaceful solution to our woes, but I have to warn you that the Afrikaaner nation is losing their sense of humour swiftly. It would be wise to remember that we are the descendents of a small group of boers that held off the might of the British empire at their height of power. I shudder to think of the consequences if we were once more forced to defend our right to exist under the African sun. The prophecies of Oom Nicklaus Van Rensburg clearly state that a leader will emerge from among us and lead us in battle against the Satanic hordes that murder, rape and steal from us. He states quite clearly that this will happen as a result of the afflictions we suffered under black marxist rule. We never as a nation started any war but we will fight if we are pushed any further.
dear White Afrikaaner
Raising awareness is what I am trying to do here on the website. But you need more than awareness raised. You need physical help.
I will do my best, but my influence is limited. Having limited influence means nothing however, because there is a God in heaven who is able to save, and do anything he desires.
I will write to my congressman, and to the news media, if they will hear me. Maybe they will offer some insight on what to do.
Thank you Marianne for your sincere efforts. I myself am on a campaign of my own outside of the country of my birth for the next couple of months mustering as much support as I can for my poeple and their pressing situation. I have long ago sent my family away to a country of safety as I saw the writing on the wall so to speak of what is inevitable- the slaughter of whites in this country. We had a wonderful life in South Africa with our own business and surrounded by natural beauty. This is all gone now as we had to uproot ourselves and try to build a new life. At least my wife and children are safe where they are even though our standard of living is nowhere where it was. I will however not abandon my poeple and the remainder of my family or the love of our beautiful country. I am constantly rallying poeple together to take positive steps to prepare for the onslaught to come. I would be most interested to see if you get even a slight response from your goverment on this subject as the entire planet seems to have demonised us and turned a blind eye. So much myth and deception has been put to use against my poeple as has always been the case in our history. Nobody deserves what is been dished out to so many of us on a daily basis. Horrible crimes and deeds that even the hardest man finds difficult to digest. Little babies raped and set on fire. Old poeple boiled alive and disembowelled ect. This is an everyday occurence and the world is doing nothing about it. The governments of the west are just as guilty as these terrorists by turning their back on us. They forget how we as a small nation held off the combined might of 4 communist armies in a deadly war that spanned nearly 30 years- all in the name of civilisation and our Christian faith which we believed to be a common thread connecting us to the western nations from where we originated. Our brothers and sisters will have our blood and the blood of countless others on their hands if nothing is done. We have faith that our God sees our despair and we know that at some stage He will avenge our slaughtered women and children. The media doesnt even make mention of what is going on here and if it does it is done in a brushed under the carpet manner. They have put Mandela on a pedestal and just fall short of deifying him. Let me tell you the truth- Mandela is not the angel of peace that he is made out to be, he should rather be called the angel of death. This is war, a war of deception and lies covering the blood of the innocent drenching our soil and crying out to our Lord. It is not just the blood of whites but that of other innocents from all race groups that are victims of this tide of satanic malevalence. My fury at this grows with everyday and I struggle with it knowing that I am powerless as a man and a former soldier to tke up arms and eradicate this filth from the earth. That is my prayer and I pray that He will answer my request that I can be given the opportunity to fight with all my heart against this beast of evil.
SA white gets refugee status
http://www.news24.com/Content/SouthAfrica/News/1059/288551f8ba4e4d94afe1fc21c132ca14/31-08-2009-02-55/SA_white_gets_refugee_status
Yes Huntley caused quite a sensation and the left wing media had a field day trying to dicredit his claims. Even the communist marxist terrorist ANC Goverment at high levels had alot to say about it denying any wrong doing in the running of the country. I have personally seen poeple gunned down on numerous occasions by these savages. Nothing we say will make the world believe us. On one occasion I had to watch an elderly woman die in the street after she was shot at point blank range 6 times in the head and chest- It took her 45 minutes to die. They killed her for her hand bag as she came out of a bakery.(Croydon Kempton Park 1996). My sisters family was attacked in their home by gunmen, pistol whipped and tied up. Thank God my niece managed to escape and alert the neighbours. (Sandringham JHB 2002). My sisters neighbours were beaten to within an inch of their lives, not once but on 3 seperate occasions- they are elderly poeple and have since abandoned their home and gone to Israel. The neighbour on the otherside of her was gang raped by 5 blacks last year. (traumatised for the rest of her life). And this is in an upmarket suburb with security patrols and electric fencing ect.Two of my personal friends have been murdered in the past 15 years.I have had enough and cant even begin to tell you what rage is burning inside of me. I believe in God and and fear Him and you can call me what you want, but I am now at the point where I could kill without any remorse- WHY BECAUSE I AM BEEN DRIVEN TO IT.GOD help us.
Greetings,
Hope all is well. I want to pass this on.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/feb2010/pers-f15.shtml
Thanks,
Love,
John
hi john
This establishes bad leadership. With all the diamonds, gold and platinum, among other rich natural resources, the country should be doing well.
You need education to know how to develop resources. But the masses are uneducated there, and the leadership does not have to be.
Marianne,
Hi hope you are well.
Yes the article proves that the ANC did not do a good job. I agree that education to run things is needed.
You have to understand when the Europeans came they destroyed the existing structure. Now these societies are handicapped by the deliberate depency created by the Imperialistic oppressor.
Now this is why the West see the Russia and China as a threat because they can give the know how as well as the United States and Europe.
True Christianity would create a society that could help itself.
Love,
John
hi john
When the Europeans got there, all they found were bushmen. There was no structure to destroy. The bushmen were primitive people. The Europeans instituted the first schools.
John
Much of SA was no-man’s land when the Dutch settled here. And we BOUGHT land yet some still got killed by brutal blacks long before there was any hint of European oppressors. The Dutch here NEVER did what the Germans and British did where THEY went! And the Dutch, now Boer/Afrikaner in loose terms, got on VERY well with the blacks until the British missionaries arrived and sown dissent.
Marianne,
Hi hope you are well.
Forgive the harshness of this statement but your words express the arrogance of the European.
The same thing that you said was said of the Native Americans or First People. Jefferson called them “merciless savages.’ But the truth of the matter is that the idea of the unification of the colonies came from the Iriquoi Federation as did the concept of a Bill of Rights. The Native Americans in fact had a culture more noble and more sophisticated than the European invaders.
I do not know the African situation with the same intimacy that I know the American one. However I do know that the Zulu nation was quite advanced! In fact they remain a powerful entity even to this day. You can see their sophistication as evidenced by their battles with European invaders. Once again the Zulu situation is not in my expetise but I suggest you reaserch it.
Just because a society does not have technology does not make them less sophisticated and certainly not inferior. I believe any evil that existed in Afica could be met on the same level with of that of the Europeans.
You see things through European eyes. You have to loose that prejudice if you can. It will help you grow in your Love for others as a Christian. Instead see things through the Word of God. Paul became all things to all men to win them over to the Lord. To dismiss the people of South Africa as ‘bush men’ or ‘primitive’ is wrong. You don’t need a building to have a school and certainly not to learn. Psalm 19 says nature testifes about God. There is nothing inferioir about ‘bush men’ than what we call ‘civilized’. In fact I would argue that the ‘civilized’ people were inferior to the ‘bush men’. Imperialism was and is such a wicked abomination that God abhors!!!
For example in the United States the so called ‘Christian’ missionaries told the Native Americans that they had to give up hunting and take up farming. You find me a scripture that remotely points to that and I will thank you for adding to my knowledge of the Word of God. In fact in Egypt the Isrealites were shepards.
Perhaps we can discuss which civilization is the greatest. For example the United States has the worlds’ greatest economy and military. Yet it has more people in jail than any other. The people in the islands are poor but the are exceedingly kind, though things are changing for the worse. China has the oldest civilization. Also look at how the Chinese culture honor their eldery while many in United States dump them in nursing homes to die. What is the criteria to be used to say who is the greatest?
One is known by their fruits, that is scripture.
Love,
John
Hi John,
I do not think it fair to the American Indians to compare them to the bushmen in Africa. The Indians were never cannibals or savages. Now that these bushmen have been educated at least some by whites, they are still failing to accomplish anything except violence and blood shed. South Africa has the highest crime rate in the world. Whites had to train them to work on farms, since they did not even know how to grow crops. They were illiterate, and white people provided an education for them. They had the same opportunities as other cultures to advance in the world, but they still fail to advance in any way, and there are still many who practice voodoo and slice off heads for their collections.
Marianne,
Hi hope you are well.
You may be right but I do not know. I don’t things are as simple as we present them. When I took a course in anthropology we were warned against two things. One was the Noble Savage and the other’s name I forgot. The Noble Savage views the objects of the study as superior in every way. The reverse can happen too, where anthroplogists look at the other culture with disdain. The truth is somewhere in the middle.
Still I will stand by the statement that African evil could be matched by Eurpoean evil. Head hunting is in my opinion is just as bad as torturing people as occurred in the Inquisition. I think I will investigate the Zulu culture. I have been studying the Bible pretty intensely these days so my time is limited. I’ll try on the internet first and post links if you don’t mind.
Like I said, Africa is not my expertese especially South Africa. I know about Mandela and Ghandi’s experience in that country. I also know a little about the English and the Dutch as well.
You have to understand that lies are the tool of the devil. I am not accussing you of lying. What I am saying is that the peoples who were the subject of imperialism were demonized. That way it was easier to justify the killing and oppression of them.
A modern example was in WW1. Go back to the American news papers before the Balfor Agreement. You will see the press was neutral. After that agreement then Germany was demonized. You would have cartoons of German soldiers bayonetting babies.
hi john
I agree that one should not blame all one side. Whites have their history of sins as well. I call them bushmen, but I meant whatever the people are called that still practice violence or cannibalism. Many of them practice voodoo. But then we have white people who are satanists. Same thing.
Bushmen are just that … bushmen on any land or continent.
They do no harm … they simply just try to live under the blue skies of this earth.
It is the military and the greedy powers that be mixed with religion and/or other lies … which are the oppressors and enemies of mankind … ir-regardless of color, nationality, gender, age etc.
And these type of atrocities existed in all eras, centuries, decades etc.
And often what we call civilize is quite the opposite and what we esteem as good is evil.
Enough said … watch …
Juluis Malema can sing “kill the boer, they are rapist”, he does this not only in public – but at universities – he is busy swooping up the youth of SA, to hate white people, one of his fans on facebook says they will kill Zuma and start raping and killing white South Africans in 6 weeks (4 from today). Please Google the terms: “kill the boer, kill the farmer”, “kill the boer, they are rapist”, they claim it is a song sang because of Apartheid – AS PER USUAL these days, apartheid is used to excuse EVERYTHING they do. And remember – in the news they say these frases are against the law – they say people are prosecuted for saying it – they tell the rest of the world Malema goes to court over it – IT IS ALL LIES! They do NOTHING.
I will not be afraid – my future is in Gods hands.
John – The San people (bushmen), are the only original tribe of Southern Africa – they where nomadic, which means they never settled in one place and therefor would not get involved in wars, because they did not have the need to protect their land. They have absolutely no aggression towards other people – still today. The problem in South Africa is all the other African people-they believe South Africa belongs to them because they are black. The British settlers payed alot of money to buy land from the San, the other African tribes just took land from them.
Please think about giving South African families refugee status in countries out there – people with children really needs to get their children to safety! I do not have children and will not leave a country I love, unless God tells me to go. And yes John, don’t take this plead out of propotion – we still carry on with our daily lifes here, we work, we drive in cars, we eat…But so did the people that where given refugee status during apartheid – IT IS THE EXACT SAME THING. White people fear for their lifes, because the government ITSELF sing “KILL THE BOER, KILL THE FARMER” – if this is not genocide, NOTHING is!!
http://bibliopolit.blogspot.com/2010/03/kill-boer-kill-farmer.html
I will do my best to help if people want to come to America. I will try to contact churches and see if they can host a family. I am not sure how this will work, but it is better than the danger in South Africa.
Thank you Marianne, good to know that someone cares. The situation in SA the last couple of days has grown very tense! Eugene Terreblance was murdered on his farm – he was the leader of the AWB before 1994 – they were against a black government, and did at times take things to far, they were a small group of white people that believed in race purity, in other words that races should not mix. People are very angry – white, black – everyone. It’s scary how many people are being killed – really scary, I don’t know anymore – looks like there is no answers to this problem for now.
http://afrikaner-genocide-achives.blogspot.com/ – THIS IS STARTING TO FEEL TRUE – MORE EVERY DAY.
Marianne, do you think white South Africans should start applying for emigration? Do you as outsiders see things as serious as we do – or is it just difficult getting perspective on this because we are so close to it?
dear Africa
Most people in the world do not even know about this. While the black advertised their side, before the black government took over, the world has heard nothing, almost, about what is happening to the whites. There is nothing on the nightly news about this.
I have tried to send emails to news media, and then I never see any reporting on the TV. It is as if your situation does not exist. But remember, the media is not Christian, so it only reports what it thinks important. Also, they might ignore many emails.
If you feel it best to emigrate, that is a big decision. It would be a hardship for anyone to do this. So much would have to be left behind, as you would have to travel lightly, and not take much with you. But if it is dangerous, then it might be best to leave.
However, if you do, come with much documentation. News articles, pictures everything you can. or, send them ahead of you, if you suspect officials will block the information. Most countries would take people from South Africa without question. The only countries they might block emigration from at this time are Muslim countries, and even that is still somewhat open.
If you foresee a time when your government or society will NOT let you leave, then it is better to leave now, while you have a chance. Remember Nazi Germany. At first travel was open, but once Nazism took over, the Jews, and others, were not allowed to leave.
Marianne
Emigrating is exactly what about a million had done so far. They were the lucky ones, as most cannot afford it. That is why 600,000 whites are just hopeless and the churches generally don’t look after them.
I still find that missionaries defend the position of the racist element amongst the blacks, or even the communist one. Communism – atheism, period. Churches had been the agencies for communist influences for decades and this has not changed.
God has told my family and I to stay, which is difficult as even ten years ago, we were offered $100,000, a home for a year, a car as well as office facilities in a different country. We stayed in obedience to God and went through immense suffering as a result.
Yet if God told me I was free to go………. being here is not my first choice.
1. Our Dutch (Holland) ancestors came here to bring the gospel to
Africa and founder Jan Van Riebeeck made a covenant with God on
April 6, 1652. Our French ancestors came here in 1688 because
they were being persecuted for their faith in Europe. They were
the French Huguenots. German blood was added later.
2. Our forefathers BOUGHT land, I saw some of these deeds of sale
myself. Much of the interior of South Africa was no man’s land
due to the murderous raids by the Matebele of Zimbabwe. Unlike
in other colonies, we did not STEAL any land, but the British
did so at the and of the Anglo Boer War.
3. From as far back as around the mid-1800′s, the BLACK SETTLERS in
Cape Town started riots inspired by atheist communist Karl Marx.
AS whites are outnumbered 9:1, the white Afrikaner realised the
need to protect everybody’s rights from both British oppression
and violent majority rule.
4. This view was strengthened as the result of the Anglo Boer war
when the British used roughly 450,000 troops to burn down our
farms. Women and children were interned in the most inhumane
way in concentration camps, where they wre fed ground glass
mixed with their gruel. Upward of 26,000 died as a result.
After the war, the British chased black farmers of their land
and it were the white Afrikaners whom had shown them mercy.
5. Blacks sided by the British oppressors and also by the atheist
ideologies of Karl Marx. The Afrikaner realised the danger due
to unfavourable demographics and started working at Afrikaner
nationalism that would find its way into government so as to
protect the rights of all minority groups as well. AFRIKANER
RACISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND STILL IS THE RESULT OF SENSELESS
BLACK VIOLENCE AS WE SEE TO THIS DAY. We don’t hate blacks,
actually were are fond of them and respect them….BUT we will
oppose their anarchist, ungodly violent conduct with our last
drop of blood.
6. During apartheid years, immense amounts of disinformation was
spread around the globe through a media driven by the New World
Order. the lie was swallowed, hook, line and sinker.
7. The decay of South Africa is unbelievable. Don’t be fooled by
the obvious, scratch underneath the surafce and see what had
happened to social welfare, health care, education,
infrastructure, scientific research, etc.
8. Whites are excluded from job positions – the Afrikaner
government secured jobs for them during apartheid and looked
after them.
9. BLACKS DID NOT PAY INCOME TAX WELL INTO THE 1980′S!!! THEY WERE
EXEMPT! When they then burnt down schools, universities,
hospitals, etc’, the minority white taxpayers were VERY upset,
of course! ( I was a tax officer at Inland Revenue at the
time.)
10. BLACKS – NOT ALL BUT MANY – ARE RACIST, SENSELESS AND VIOLENT,
UNPATRIOTIC, GREEDY AND VERY, VERY LAZY!
11. Anyone criticising me is welcome to do so AFTER you have come
here and applied your wisdom in PRACTICE. Anything short of
that means a lack of insight, you cannot compare this to the UK,
USA or any other country.
12. Can you justify 4,000 farmers killed brutally? Or the 600,000
that, unlike blacks, do not get food coupons or other assistance
from the Government. They live in the most desperate
circumstances and even THEN get robbed by the blacks, as we did
in both Zandvlei near Muizenberg as well as at Kommetjie, both
camping sites around Cape Town. My family and I had gone to
hell and back, we could not sleep at night as many times black
hands came from under the canvas and grabbed our stuff. We
lived through many winters in the wet and cold, whilst blacks
were given tents and even heaters!
THE WHITE AFRIKANER REMAINS THE VICTIM OF THE RACISM OF OTHERS AND, WHEN
HE DEFENDS HIMSELF, THE WHOLE WORLD IS READY TO SKIN US ALIVE!!!
Just a note: for those of you not from South Africa. Before you judge the whites in this country try living the lives we have to. Racism from whites is few and far between, in fact most whites openly accepted black rule as normal. In the beginning life went on. Blacks had the power to vote and decide on their leaders as did whites. i am an english/afrikaans mix white male. Try getting a job in South Africa, impossible if you are a white male. banks redline whites for business loans, the government openly tells you that they will not help establish white owner run business. The few whites living in luxury tend to remain in the so called safe areas, the rest of us have to do with what we have. I grew up post apartheid, as did my friends, yet as whites we are treated as 2nd class citizens. i was fortunate, I managed to land a job and now i pay taxes to support a corrupt communist government. Our infrastucture is crumbling and the very blacks who voted the government into power are under further pressure to survive. So, being a minority in a country that wants our money but is unwilling to provide basic services in return shows you that racism is alive and well in South Africa. So yes, the original letter is true…and before you judge get out of your sandton security controlled areas and come to the middle class mixed areas, here you will find the truth. God save South Africa because the Americans and British just wanted to destroy a powerful nation in Africa with their sanctions. Where are they now? Where are the reporters and the government officials to help protect the minorities. Oh, yes, they got what they wanted so now we are no longer an issue.
dear Gary,
you said:
I want you to know that you are an issue to me. I want to see this changed so that you have the same freedoms that you have given others.
who told to those white people to go to South Africa and take the land from native people, enslave them. The same tactics aorund the world.. rule the gas, oil, gold mines… and when native people want justice are cleared. VERY NICE INDEED.
zomi
The politics of south africa is complicated. The whites who are having problems are good people. They were good to the black people and gave them jobs and education. But other whites came in who were bad, and caused trouble. So then bad blacks protested, and took over government. Now good whites suffer and good blacks suffer.
Zomi, I agree fully with you. The problem is that the millions of non whites in this country do not seem to comprehend the power they have given the government. During elections the African National Congress goes into the black residential areas and make promises such as free basic housing and services. these are people who are desperate, many dont have jobs. They then select the government who imidiatly start to enrich themselves. I would not mind a non white government if it was based on the true values of freedom. i do not justify what the old apartheid government did and stand against such forms of government, but its the minority in this country who suffer. i feed non white school kids because they are living in such poverty and cannot afford basics even though my basic income barely provides for myself. The government promised these very people assistance but when the time came to help them officials lock themselves away in their big fancy houses with top security paid for by me and other tax payers. The united states in their effort to end apartheid, which I agree had to end have placed a communist government in power here. This government claims to be democratic but with all the new laws prohibiting freedom of speech and forced land sales etc it smells of corruption and racism disguised as democracy. The fall of apartheid was one of the best historical events this country could have been through, and the blacks who demostrated against apartheid where not bad, they just wanted freedom as did many whites.The problem we now face is that through our freedom battles we have been placed in a situation that deprives one race a decent living. I am not racist and i dont say all blacks are bad, what i say is that as a minority in a country that claims its democratic, whites see no future.
Mariaan, thank you for your understanding. Like i said before i ma prof freedom of choice and believe in a strong democracy where people of all races have the same rights and privaledges as each other, no one person should be placed above the rest. However, being white has very many disadvantages, for example…if a white person attacks a non white person the media report is as a racist attack..even if it was a stupid fight over a spilled drink or something. When a non white person attacks a white person the case casually dissapears from the police station file room or the issue is pushed aside. only high profile incidents are actually investigated. I apose corruption and crime in all its forms regardless of which race does it. I do not profess that all whites are good, no, there are bad applaes in any race. i also do not say all blacks are bad. The problem here is the actual government policies that openly victimise the minority white race in this country and the world does nothing. I appreciate that there are organsisations such as your who highlight the problem and maybe one day we will have a black and white government who see all citizens as equil and not as black or white but rather as South African
Sorry folks but I an tired of reading and listening to baloney by PCLF’s, that is, Politically Correct Leftist Fascists. They will claim that it’s healthy to play in excrement, abortion is painless to the victim, Islam is a religion of peace, South Africa is a rosy picture of racial harmony, whites are responsible for all the world’s problems and so on, and all religions are bowed to except Christ. Truth has gone out the window. As Walid Shoebat says, the tactic for the oppressor is to accuse the victim of abuse and cruelty and the PCLF’s go along singing the same song. Like the school bully – side with the bully. Instead of facing up to the real cause of the problem, like aids, they proclaim it’s good to play in excrement (and its pushed on our children in our schools) – wear a condom – instead of the answer to aids – chastity and heterosexual relationships only. Of course TRUTH doesn’t matter, come on parrot the same old PCLF Darwinian line.
I did study the history of South Africa at school and everything this lady says is correct. Some 40 years I remember appeals for children in Africa, aid to third world nations to get them on there feet and they’re still going. After several hundred years of western contact and all the help we have given there has been virtually no change. Why? All sorts of stupid excuses, but never the TRUTH. Aid to Africa will just enable more children to be produced, more billionaire dictators requiring yet more aid. I wish I was wrong.
The only hope for change is for a nation to people to repent of their sin and accept Jesus Christ as their saviour and to live by his rules. I remember when Nelson Mandela took over, everyone cheered, said all was forgiven, they would live happily as a united society. I always said, just give them time, they’ll stuff it up as sure as night follows day and it has. The Nobel peace prize followed (didn’t Obama get one too? – now America is heading for the abyss). Look at Zimbabwe. These people really know how to run a modern nation, fire all the white engineers and administrators and guess what – daily blackouts. Should I continue?
Whenever a Christian points out opression, it’s the Christian’s fault isn’t it? Like when three teenage Christian girls are beheaded in Indonesia as they walked to school. As Scripture says “woe to those who call evil good and good evil.”
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Farm-crime-minister-sets-record-straight-20110310
For all a short history lesson. Download ” When the lourie calls again”
Its a good read and is very accurate. Currently you cannot open the newspaper without reading about a murdered farmer,even a 2 year old little girl being executed. The South African government is ungodly and are run by the most corrupt individuals.
Please Jesus do not wait to long.
You’re all racist pieces of shit…literally the scumbags of the earth… You behave like racists and then cry like little virgin bitches when you get called WHAT YOU ARE. Stop trying to make everyone else seem racists when they call attention to your obvious prejudices and just own up to what you are. You should be riding a horse white your KKK garment and just OWN the ideologies you really embrace instead of pissing on people and calling it rain. Your type is nauseatingly disgusting and YOU don’t deserve to live. Somebody should have aborted you all because you’re all inbred MISTAKES. God’s MISTAKES… and when you die (hopefully within this weekend) you’ll join your step-father that actually wants you, the DEVIL. You’ll join him in the flames with your white garments and be burned to a black crisp for all eternity. Have fun! And pack some sunblock.
It sounds like you need to fine Jesus and get saved.
Reading the words and discerning what is BEHIND the words….Sounds like the devil has found your website! babha haah ba ha ha ha
Matthew 15:18But the things that come out of the mouth come from the heart, and these make a man ‘unclean.’
Proverbs 4:23 Above all else, guard your heart, for it is the wellspring of life.
Matthew 12:34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
Matthew 15:11 What goes into a man’s mouth does not make him ‘unclean,’ but what comes out of his mouth, that is what makes him ‘unclean.’”
James 3:6 The tongue also is a fire, a world of evil among the parts of the body. It corrupts the whole person, sets the whole course of his life on fire, and is itself set on fire by hell.
Christina
Last time i checked, the Christian church had members from all or almost all the races of the world. Therefore, it cannot be racist.
We will accept anyone so long as they believe that they can’t save themselves, and that Christ died on the cross to forgive us of our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. I think you need to learn about repentence, and then the cross will make more sense to you.
from an email sent to me.
Just some news on South Africa
Things here are on a knife edge, everyday the news papers are reporting more farm murders of old white people. Brutal murders, women being raped and tortured with boiling water and Irons ( clothes Irons) Men having their heads crushed open with axes and steel pipes. Children being executed and raped etc. This is just getting out of hand
Politicians are just talking about taking back all the land and calling us who have been here since the Reformation thieves.
We are having major strikes by unions lately, I believe that the words of Van Rensburg will come true soon
http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Boys-appear-for-Reitz-farm-attack-inquiry-20110803
Granny 85 years old raped by 16 and 17 year old black men after they stoned her son (a farmer) to death!!!! 80 year old granny beaten and stabbed to death after assualt, these are only 2 of the MANY daily news stories…
THIS HAS GONE FAR ENOUGH – Abba father please save the white South Africans – protect each and every one of them everyday, there is not enough money to immigrate – it is so expensive! Please Father don’t wait any longer, please come back, come take us out of this mess…
dear Africa
I had this note left on another page about South Africa.
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/south-africa-%E2%80%93-the-second-cry-for-help/
I am a Christian and a natural born American citizen. If there is anything I can do for any white south african who want to escape SA, I will do it.
(Sponsorship, travel, housing etc.) please get in touch with me at:
dbarner374@aol.com
May God Help the Whites of SA
damon said this on July 22, 2011 at 6:43 am
Please contact this person if you need help immigrating.
We cant leave SA we have to stay here because this is where Father wants us, we have a duty to perform here for all followers Of Jesus all over the world, it is going to be a safe haven for all of you when the times come. So buy your tickets and book your flights well in advance. My fellow SA’cans do not despair, Father is not sleeping nor slumbering, He is busy preparing a place for all his children here, He WILL provide safety and security here for His children, just believe and have FAITH, He will not fail us. And by this I don’t suggest we are not going to endure hardship, but in the end you will receive your due reward. I attach a prophesy for encouragement.
Marianne thank you for your understanding and support and well wishes, we could do with the concerted prayers of all the Jesus followers all over the world, and then not only for the whites but for all peoples, for all is suffering because of the (forgive me for the word) “stupidity” of the majority.
God Bless SA.
A PROPHECY FOR SOUTH AFRICA &AFRICA
Sent by Pastor Amaka Abe from Nigeria.
I spent my time praying one early morning while travelling in
Nigeria. Suddenly I was in the spirit and I heard the voice of the Holy Spirit.
“Write down what you are about to hear.”
Suddenly I saw the globe and the continent of Africa was in front of me. I saw myself walking from the South to the North. Everywhere my feet fell, I saw rings similar as when a stone is thrown into a pond. These rings went from South Africa all over the continent of Africa, the sea and to the other parts of the world. I asked the Spirit what the meaning of this was and this is what the Holy Spirit told me.
“The rings you see are the healing, saving and miracle power that will start from the Southern tip of Africa. This will be a mighty outpouring of my Spirit and many will come running into my Kingdom. AFRICA WILL BE SAVED!!.
Many people from all over the world will come to experience the power of God. You will see things you have never seen before. THIS IS NOT THE SO CALLED END TIME MOVE, but this is a move where sons of God will raise up and take their rightful place.”
As I moved to the North, these rings just increased in magnitude and as I stepped into Israel, I turned around and looked back to Africa. I stood amazed as I saw the cross over Africa. The foot of the cross grounded in South Africa, the left and right arms on the horn of Africa and on the Western coast of Africa and the top of the cross on the North edge. Suddenly the Spirit spoke to me again……
“My time is now, where I will make My Word come true, Africa will be saved and this Gospel of the Kingdom of God will go from South Africa to the rest of the world. From now on Africa will evangelize the world, and this initiative I will start from South Africa. The best time in the Spirit is on your doorstep South Africa, now you will see My power and love in action. In the darkest moment My light will shine and no darkness will quench it. I’m raising sons who will stand on My Word and will proclaim what I say.
Do not let your heart be troubled, don’t flee South Africa; God will bring the knowledge back to South Africa. A white cloud (Gods Glory) is rising from the South and the Glory of the Lord will cover the earth.”
About 3 months later, one morning in a church service, I was caught up in the Spirit again and God showed me another vision. This was strange because I have NEVER experience such visions before.
This is the vision: I was sitting in an airplane and had a window seat. We were flying very high, as if we were in outer space. As I looked out of the window, suddenly I saw a giant cross. Behind the cross I saw the globe and again the continent of Africa was facing me. Suddenly the cross fell down and as I watched it, I saw it was on its way to the earth.
The cross went straight to the Southern tip of Africa and it pecked itself in the Southern tip of Africa. Again I saw the rings as when you throw a stone into the water. I heard the same voice saying, “That is my healing and miracle power that will flow from South Africa to the rest of the world. It will start there. I have a plan and no one will stop me”. Suddenly I saw the Southern tip of Africa becoming blood red and it moved upwards into Angola, DRC, Nigeria till it covered the whole of Africa. Again I heard the voice of the Spirit, “I will move mightily and soon you will taste My might and see what I have in store for My children. It is time for the Spirit-filled to come together as one. Don’t look to colour, for this move is not prejudice. Change your minds and seek Me with all of your hearts. It is time to leave your petty arguments and seek My face”, says the Lord, “for I have a plan. I am about to bless My people abundantly more than what they can think. Supernaturally you will experience My provision. Be faithful with what I give and I will open for you a window of heaven”.
This word must reach each and every South African. Send it to the South Africans overseas. Be sure, God has chosen this nation to show the world what and who He is. Send this to your friend, pray together and help us as South Africans to call Gods Word into action. Families, call on the Lord, seek His face and He will heal your houses, your businesses, your government and your churches and you will live in peace and no harm will come to you.
He knows the plans He has for us, plans of a great future and of a good hope. In Jesus Name, AMEN.
This was received in the year 2011.
One last thing:- Father forgive Christina because she does not know what she says.
hello Johan
Thank you for posting that. I pray daily for those who are persecuted, and this includes South Africa. I pray all this comes to an end quickly, and there is peace.
Hi all,
I am an African born again Christian living in South Africa. I would like to warn members of this forum to guard against false information being sent out on the internet. First of all, this information posted here about white farmers being killed each day in South Africa is void of any truth but a malicious campaign by a small sector of our community who do not want to accept political changes. They are the very same people who embraced and benefitted during the apartheid era and now do not want to be mixed with other races that were previously oppressed. Secondly, the issue of land is a serious one given the fact that the indigineous Africans of South Africa were forcefully removed from their land by the very same Afrikaners who masterminded apartheid, hence the fact that over 80% of the farming land in SA is in the hands of the minority (9% of total population of about 50mil) Dutch-descendents, i.e. the afrikaners. In closing, what I would like the forum to do is to pray to God for peace and justice in SA.
I know religion and all is very important, But guys in South Africa the only way we can fix this is decreasing Black people’s numbers DRAMATICALLY… Or i fear all you people who thought that everyone here is black… is gonna be right… we have too many D**n black people KILLING and raping the HELL out of …well EVERYONE… In truth, even their own family members and friends…. believe it or not, Most of these Black people say, “No, But it is my Culture”…F**king whatever….
oh yeah and Mxolisi…. Shut the f**k up… you just want to take back SA and kill all the white people…. Or wasn’t that the campain of the ANC?… Kill the boer..Kill the farmer?….
HUH, WASN’T EVERY f**king black piece of sh*t, at those conferences, Singing and screaming to KILL all white people in SA?… dude… when you try to convince people in other country’s that Black people in South Africa aren’t what we say, your really tugging on a rope that could bring a Anvil on you… Seriously, boy… THINK before you write… i really don’t care what these people see from what i write… because they never experienced South Africa like i did and STILL do…
its amazing how the author of this letter forgot to mention how ‘white’ police men killed masses and masses of ‘black’ SCHOOL CHILDREN who were simply voicing their refusal to be taught in Afrikaans. very funny how u turned a blind eye towards that and choose to rather be bickering over land,which God blessed us all to share.