Siener van Rensburg: Visions for Africa, Europe, and America– Boer perspective
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The Seiner lived in the last century, and interpretation of his visions vary somewhat, with emphasis on different aspects. These are more revelations from the tradition of the Boers, regarding the world and its future.
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Current plight of Christians in Africa foreshadows the future plight of Christians in America
Right now it is Zimbabwe that is being destroyed. South Africa is next, and the idea is to annihilate the Christian Boer people completely at that time, because it us who really are standing in Satan’s way – nobody will want to believe this but we as a people are rather important in Jesus’ eyes and planning. America will follow after Germany and all notion of “conservative (Christian) resistance” in Europe has been overpowered.
Leaders like Obama, Clinton, Mandella, Mbeki, Zuma, Mugabe, etc, they all work for the same organization and the promises they made and still are making are meant to play for time only. When the right time comes fall of them will change into the monsters they really are.
Zimbabwe eye witness report:
I mean they are actually ploughing down brick and mortar houses and one family with twin boys of 10 had no chance of salvaging anything when 100 riot police came in with AK47′s and bulldozers and demolished their house.
It’s genocide in the making and if you do not believe me, read the Genocide Report by Amnesty International which says we are – IN level 7 – (level 8 is after it’s happened and everyone is in denial).
The petrol queues are a reality, the pall of smoke all around our city is a reality, the thousands of homeless people sleeping outside in 0 Celsius with no food, water, shelter and bedding are a reality. Today a family approached me, brother of the gardener’s wife with two small children. Their home was trashed and they will have to sleep outside. We already support 8 adult people and a child on this property, and electricity is going up next month by 250% as is water.
All property is going to belong to the State now. I want to send out my Title Deeds to one of you because if they get a hold of those, I can’t fight for my rights.
Censorship!—-We no longer have SW radio [which told us everything that was happening] because the Government jammed it out of existence – we don’t have any reporters, and no one is allowed to photograph.
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The place of the USA in the visionary story
The visionary story deals with the coming Third World War, and it consists of four mainline stories that intertwine to form the narrative. I will briefly describe each of these to enable you to place the USA more effectively.
1. The biggest one (70% of the whole) deals with the struggle of the Boer People against their enemies. Those of you who are conversant with the (racial) situation in South Africa will be surprised to hear that there is absolutely no sign of a racial war in my country in these visions. Your perception of what happens in South Africa is mostly based on disinformation and the deliberate spreading of political lies.
2. a struggle between Germany and four other countries against England and France. It may come as a slight surprise to you, but the information in this part of the visions is of such an explicit nature that I could only name it The fall of the European Government.
The exact term European Government, furthermore, is no older than only some twenty years – and yet Seiner coined the exact name in 1923!
3. rebellion inside the ranks of the European Government, which includes (as in incorporate) the body known as the British Commonwealth. This eventually plays a major role in the fall of the expansionist British Empire in the visionary warning.
4. war between the USA and the extremist revolutionary Islam in Europe! My friend, when this old man died in 1926 there was absolutely no sign of any future clash between the USA and the Islam.
5. The coming Third World War will be started in Europe by a terrorist character called The Turk and his fighting force. This fellow seems to attempt an attack somewhere in Germany, but he is smoked out before he can do so, and then the fight is on. He is assisted by three Indian terrorist groups, also deployed in Europe, and they work together with an evil group of Englishmen. The symbolism employed makes it clear that these are terrorist groups, and who else but the revolutionary Islamic terrorist groups are this active today on a world wide scale? The governing body of this evil and hidden group of people is the UNO (in Europe).
Germany and the Americans in Europe become allies against this evil plot to overpower the free western world, and this part of the story describes how the Americans eventually overcome and destroy the Turk. It is interesting in this respect, for me at least, to watch how the admission of Turkey to the EU is developing at present.
Seiner used the maps printed in the back of his Bible to point out how the war would run its course from Europe “over the North Pole” (Siberia), into Alaska and then roll through Canada right down to your southern border, and maybe even beyond that into Mexico and South America.
He described this as three black clouds that came from Europe and Africa, and that they moved in from the north (Canada) and settled on the USA. He then heard a great deal of fighting in the semi-darkness around him. This was made up of the clashing of swords (probably bayonets), as well as musket and gun fire. I am not quite sure, but I think he also saw men fighting each other, i.e. soldier against traitor and invader.
During World War 3, South Africa will be a place of refuge for Christians, because by then, South Africa will have gone through and completed its own time of tribulation.
*** quick synopsis of Seiner at http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060830064534AA0TZ3A
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Siener van Rensburg: Visions for Africa, Europe, and America– Boer perspective « Heaven Awaits said this on December 11, 2008 at 9:11 pm |
Hey Marianne,
Thank for the Siener post. I used to read all the books about Sieners visions and prophesies. We grew up as Afrikaans South Africans and it was part of our heritage, although you don’t hear any of that these days in South Africa.. South Africa used to be a safe place, but i can see in now way the white standing together, even to survive.. Well definately going the way of Zimbabwe, just wondering what to make of Sieners visions of Prieska and the railway lines and the help that would arrive from Germany, Germany seemed to hail Obama when he went on his tour, somehow this picture is not clear to me, but what is much clearer is what is going on in the US and also Europe.. Africa is darker as ever.. just praying that this is the minute before dawn, when the Light of this world will arrive..
Blessings
Hi Corne,
I have just started collecting information on Seiner. THis may be quite incomplete. I am willing to post more, if I have new information. Obama will show himself soon to not be everything he said he was, and will be forced to “change” himself. (“Change” was his mantra during the election). What to expect from him- mostly what Germans would expect from Bill Clinton, since he has all Clinton advisers.
The USA is dark too, but it is presented as a false light now. Soon, the falseness will be more evident, and the darkness will manifest itself as something that has been there for a long time. Now that Obama is the next leader, this will speed things up. I noticed that in the future predictions, that America and Germany will be cooperating against the terrorist from Turkey.
blessings
marianne
“Change” Oh no! “Speeding up the change” is the motto of the ANC in SA, but all they ever ,are names. The rest just fall downwards!
Hi,
Hope you are well.
I am sorry for the Boer persecution, I wish all peoples could live in peace.
Saying that why do you have your list of leaders? Nelson Mandella was an outstanding man much in the way of Martin Luther King. The Europeans in South Africa were oppressive invaders and the people there had a right to rise up for their freedom. Nelson Mandella showed great restraint when he came to power.
Perhaps all those people you mention belong to the same group. What was the big difference between Obama and McCain? In America we have the illusion of democracy. There are only two choices Republican and Democrat. Any other party gets zero press coverage so they can never compete. Make a list of the major policies. Both McCain and Obama want to continue both wars, give money to the banks and make some kind of health care reform. Obama showed his true colors when he reneged on his promise to tax the wealthy.
Also what about Bush. He is an evil and wicked man. He accepts both evolution and creation. He started a war with Iraq. Don’t you know the plans to invade Iraq were created before Bush came to office. Then there was 911. If you look hard at that you will see the facts prove it was done by our own government. In the aftermath of 911 Bush took advantage of our shock and turmoil and passed the Patriot Act. That law took many freedoms away and its full implications have not been felt yet. Then Bush had the intelligence changed to say there were weapons of mass destruction. We knew there were none as the weapons inspectors had free access to investigate anywhere in Iraq. Of course we found none after the war. Then we invaded Afghanastan to supposedly hunt of Bin Laden. But when we had him cornered we let him slip away. Just like communism was given as an excuse to do things detrimental to our country so is Isalmic Terroists. The government needs an enemy to keep the policies intact.
God is Love. That is what the Bible teaches. We are to Love our enemies and to turn the other cheek. So many want to water down these words. God says bless them that curse you.
You may disagree with a lot of what I say. Scripture is the basis of Christianity. One must go to scripture and humble themselves and conform to what it says. Too many take their ideas and try to make scripture fit their views.
Love,
John
The rightful owners of South Africa were the bushmen who were persecuted by the blacks from the north and whites (europeans) from the south.The blacks were nomads and travelled where there was grazing for their cattle and good hunting.Much the same as the American Indian. The difference is the blacks were not hunted like the indians and murdered.
Many of the native blacks currently in south africa were brought from other african countries to work on the imperial mines i.e Britian and achieved naturalisation.
Slavery was not amongst the blacks but Malays imported who have since interbred with bushmen,hottentots,whites,chinese and blacks.Their language is predominantly afrikaans (the second largest language group in the country)
Aparteid means SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT retaining the culture of parents and grandparents.Under the current administration this is not happening and within a few generations we will all be the same colour i.e. coloureds.
Hi John,
1. Mandela - Although his supporters glorify Mandela, who he is and what he stands for is not worthy of glory. Since he took power, his country has the highest crime rates in the world, and there is reverse apartheid with a vicious murderous twist, sanctioned by the government. While before there was just issues of equal education or voting, murderous rampages occur to kill all white Christians. He is an evil leader and NOTHING like Martin Luther King. King had morals, Mandela doesn’t. Under Mandela, the Boer Christians are being persecuted, murdered, and their farms taken. Mandela is a murderer.
He has achieved next to nothing in his relatively short political career which saw South Africa rapidly decline to the status of the world’s most violent and crime-ridden country, and, to add to the confusion, his greatest friends are communists and dictators like Fidel Castro, Moammar Qaddafi, Yasser Arafat and Saddam Hussein. His ex-wife Winnie Mandela, whom he quickly jettisoned when it became clear she was a considerable embarassment to his political career, is a self-confessed advocate of terrorism and violence and has even committed murder.
In his public statements and speeches Mandela is always critical of the democratic countries of the west, but has nothing but praise for the remaining communist dictatorships of the world. He condemns mistakes and controversial policies of the west, but refuses to publicly condemn the genocides and brutal repression of current or former communist countries; he is supposedly a “champion of freedom and democracy”, the “hero of oppressed people everywhere” but considers dictatorships like Cuba and Libya shining beacons of freedom and justice…
He was himself originally incarcerated, not for his political views, but for involvement in 23 different acts of sabotage and conspiring to overthrow the government. He and his fellow conspirators of the ANC and the South African Communist Party were caught by the police while in the possession of 48,000 Soviet-made anti-personnel mines and 210,000 hand-grenades!*
Winnie Mandela has been equally fulsome in her praise of Communism and violence.
Mandela the right to hold views opposed to a war on Iraq, but he is here revealing his own racist attitude to world politics – only white leaders are a threat to peace,
His views are always anti-American and pro-Communist. He is an evil leader.
2. Bush – He is not evil. You just oppose the Iraq war. I support it. I also support the Patriot Act. 911 was NOT done by out government. That is a lie that is spread by liberals, hate mongers, and perverse individuals like Hillary and the rest of the Democratic Party. Osama bin laden admitted to 911. There were weapons of mass destruction. They were moved to Syria before the war started, in the 6 month delay created by France, Germany and Russia, who were the real ones after the oil there.
3. One evidence of love is not to lie about someone. To willingly believe lies is an act of hatred. So before one quickly condemns, one needs to examine their hearts and ask why it is important for them to believe that lie, and do nothing to discover the truth.
John, You talk a lot about Jesus, but I do not see the love and compassion you mention. You seem to think all white people are evil, and blacks do nothing wrong. To really love one’s enemies, you have to be fair to them and not accuse based on hearsay, or tradition, or a false impression. You need to realize that black people also abuse white people, and not just the other way around. One should examine all information to see whether it is true or not true. I am having trouble seeing how you could say you are a Christian, and then exalt Mandela, a murderer and Communist, for example, who persecutes and kills Christians.
Maybe this helps clarify my position and views on the issues mentioned.
Blessings
marianne
Marianne
Mandela was put into power by a white man and not through activism or even leadership. He is a kind old gentleman whom is no Christian and his past is rather shady.
You are right – South Africa is falling apart………. thanks to him!
1. Our Dutch (Holland) ancestors came here to bring the gospel to
Africa and founder Jan Van Riebeeck made a covenant with God on
April 6, 1652. Our French ancestors came here in 1688 because
they were being persecuted for their faith in Europe. They were
the French Huguenots. German blood was added later.
2. Our forefathers BOUGHT land, I saw some of these deeds of sale
myself. Much of the interior of South Africa was no man’s land
due to the murderous raids by the Matebele of Zimbabwe. Unlike
in other colonies, we did not STEAL any land, but the British
did so at the and of the Anglo Boer War.
3. From as far back as around the mid-1800′s, the BLACK SETTLERS in
Cape Town started riots inspired by atheist communist Karl Marx.
AS whites are outnumbered 9:1, the white Afrikaner realised the
need to protect everybody’s rights from both British oppression
and violent majority rule.
4. This view was strengthened as the result of the Anglo Boer war
when the British used roughly 450,000 troops to burn down our
farms. Women and children were interned in the most inhumane
way in concentration camps, where they wre fed ground glass
mixed with their gruel. Upward of 26,000 died as a result.
After the war, the British chased black farmers of their land
and it were the white Afrikaners whom had shown them mercy.
5. Blacks sided by the British oppressors and also by the atheist
ideologies of Karl Marx. The Afrikaner realised the danger due
to unfavourable demographics and started working at Afrikaner
nationalism that would find its way into government so as to
protect the rights of all minority groups as well. AFRIKANER
RACISM HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND STILL IS THE RESULT OF SENSELESS
BLACK VIOLENCE AS WE SEE TO THIS DAY. We don’t hate blacks,
actually were are fond of them and respect them….BUT we will
oppose their anarchist, ungodly violent conduct with our last
drop of blood.
6. During apartheid years, immense amounts of disinformation was
spread around the globe through a media driven by the New World
Order. the lie was swallowed, hook, line and sinker.
7. The decay of South Africa is unbelievable. Don’t be fooled by
the obvious, scratch underneath the surafce and see what had
happened to social welfare, health care, education,
infrastructure, scientific research, etc.
8. Whites are excluded from job positions – the Afrikaner
government secured jobs for them during apartheid and looked
after them.
9. BLACKS DID NOT PAY INCOME TAX WELL INTO THE 1980′S!!! THEY WERE
EXEMPT! When they then burnt down schools, universities,
hospitals, etc’, the minority white taxpayers were VERY upset,
of course! ( I was a tax officer at Inland Revenue at the
time.)
10. BLACKS – NOT ALL BUT MANY – ARE RACIST, SENSELESS AND VIOLENT,
UNPATRIOTIC, GREEDY AND VERY, VERY LAZY!
11. Anyone criticising me is welcome to do so AFTER you have come
here and applied your wisdom in PRACTICE. Anything short of
that means a lack of insight, you cannot compare this to the UK,
USA or any other country.
12. Can you justify 4,000 farmers killed brutally? Or the 600,000
that, unlike blacks, do not get food coupons or other assistance
from the Government. They live in the most desperate
circumstances and even THEN get robbed by the blacks, as we did
in both Zandvlei near Muizenberg as well as at Kommetjie, both
camping sites around Cape Town. My family and I had gone to
hell and back, we could not sleep at night as many times black
hands came from under the canvas and grabbed our stuff. We
lived through many winters in the wet and cold, whilst blacks
were given tents and even heaters!
THE WHITE AFRIKANER REMAINS THE VICTIM OF THE RACISM OF OTHERS AND, WHEN
HE DEFENDS HIMSELF, THE WHOLE WORLD IS READY TO SKIN US ALIVE!!!
Marianne,
Hi hope you are well.
To be perfectly honest I am not a hundred percent on top of what South Africa has become today. I have two sources. One was a couple who attended the Manhattan Church of Christ who were white. They were thrilled with the changes in South Africa as they always worshiped in a racially mixed congregation. They were ‘white’ by the way. They worked with the South African consulat in New York City. Also I knew a man in special forces who went to South Africa with the United States army and he killed people there to keep the status quo. I recall this man very vividly and his tales. He explained how in South Africa there were many valleys and sometimes forces would just pop up out of them. The people they met were promptly machine gunned dow.
With regards to violence I categorically reject it being a pacifist. I oppose all wars and the Bible plainly tells Christians that we should only fight in spiritual wars. How can you Love you enemy and then kill him. How can you Love your neighbor and then drop a bomb on his house. I would rather go to prison or die then to pick up a gun and kill or harm anyone.
As regards to Mandella supporting other regimes I am aware of this. These were the same people who supported him in his struggle for freedom. Recall in WW2 how the United States allied itself with the Soviet Union. It was out of necessity. Mandella is just repaying those who helped him.
As regards to Iraq I guess we will just have to diasgree until further evidences are seen.
I am not your judge and you are not my judge. Jesus is the Judge. I am glad of that! Just remember Mathew 25 where Jesus says “Whatever you have done unto the least of these ye have done unto me.” So when bombs drop in Iraq and someone gets blown up or a person gets tortured in jail imagine it is Jesus who it is being done to. Love worketh no harm.
By the way thank you for allowing my comments to be put on your blog despite my disagreement with your points of view. That is a noble act.
Love,
John
JOHN
THE FALSE MESSIAH THAT CAME FROM PRISON AND RULED, HAD TURNED THIS ONCE DEVELOPED COUNTRY INTO A TYPICAL MAL-ADMINISTRATED AFRICAN OUTCROP. WHITE ARE BEING KILLED ON THEIR FARMS, WHITES HAVE NO JOBS AS PER THE EMPLYMENT EQUITY ACT. US AFRIKANERS, RIGHT UP TO 1948, WERE NOT ALLOWED TO OWN MORE THAN 49% EQUITY IN ANY BUSINESS AS PER BRITISH RULE.
WE CAME HERE TO PREPARE THE SOIL FOR ALL CHRISTIANS (NOT MANY TRUE ONES AT THAT) WHOM WILL RELOCATE HERE IN THE LATTER DAYS, OR LAST DAYS. EVER SINCE MARX THE ATHEIST COMMUNIST SET FOOT HERE IN THE 1850′S, BLACKS SIDED BY HIM AND THE RCIH BRITISH OPPRESSORS OF THE TIME. THEY DID WHAT THEY ARE DOING NOW – VIOLENT PROTESTS, GENOCIDE, ETC.
DON’T LET THOSE HAPPY GO LUCKY CHURCH GOERS DECEIVE YOU – THE ENGLISH IN THIS COUNTRY HAS A TERRIBLY INADEQUATE UNDERSTANDING OF REALITY, AS WAS PROVEN OVER CENTURIES. THEY EVEN CLAIM NOT TO HAVE INTEGRITY AND JUST TO “SIDE BY TEH WINNER.”
GOD CAN ONLY USE UNSHAKEABLE PEOPLE.
SOUTH AFRICA HAS SEEN SO MUCH OPPRESSION BECAUSE THE EVIL FIGHT IS FOR CONTROL OF THE WORLD’S MAJOR SHIPPING ROUTE – AND FOR LAND SET ASIDE BY GOD FOR YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN, POSSIBLY….!!
I AM FORTHRIGHT, ABRASIVE, DIRECT BUT I SHOULD NOT, WILL NOT, MUST NOT AND SHALL NOT HIDE THE TRUTH! SORRY IF I DID OFFEND, THOUGH
Hi John,
You are always welcome to my site. Disagreement just makes people think more. I also prefer peace, but I am also realistic enough to know that we do not live in a perfect world, and violence will occur. The question is – do I defend myself, and my children, or allow further violence and death through submission?
blessings
marianne
To compare Mandela with Martin Luther King is somewhat of an insult to the latter. I have had a good friend who lived in SA for 10 years and he classified Mandela as a terrorist even while in prison.
I also do not agree that the war Iraq was justified. The whole thing stinks and American soldiers pay for it daily. There are too many hidden agendas involved. I do not believe that the Iraqis would have been able to carry away all those weapons without leaving at least a trace.
I find it somewhat amusing that Siener sees Germany as a great power. Surely they have a good police and secret work but the army is a joke.
There are a few clips around that say that Great Britain plans to make the countries of Europe colonies of GB. It would make sense that Germany and others would oppose that.
HI GYOD
I guess when you mention Mandela, you are referring to the comment made. I hope it is clear from the post, that he was portrayed as a “monster.”
I guess there will always be disagreement over the initiation of the Iraq war. I personally thought the beginning was justified, but then we should have been withdrawing. We have bought some time there, keeping terrorists busy overseas, instead of here. But I will also admit that it is a war that will go on forever, as long as there is one Muslim breathing. And for that reason, we should pull out.
blessings
marianne
“I find it somewhat amusing that Siener sees Germany as a great power. Surely they have a good police and secret work but the army is a joke.”
You know when I was growing up the Berlin wall seemed as thought it and the Soviet Empire would be there for ever, but in a twinkling it was gone. 5 years ago, I would never have believed that a Mulatto could be elected president of the United States. Just look what we have now.
Right now Germany’s military isn’t much of a force, but then it wasn’t much of a force before Hitler came to power either. Who knows what changes may come in the next year or two? van Rensburg has been right about many things that seemed unlikely before they happened.
hi Fritz
very true….and also, many would not have believed that a powerful America could end up in such a huge economic crisis that it will finally collapse, and be invaded by enemies…..yet the enemies are already here, and they are making their preparations.
Fritz….bear in mind how many Americans have German ancestry? He was talking about America but the interpreters saw it is Germany!
The problem with dear old Siener is that his interpreters don’t always have a close walk with God but they are religious. That explains many misinterpretations.
Hi there. It’s very simple. South Africa was a christian country under the Afrikaaner and enjoyed unparralled freedom and prosperity. The constitution started with the words “In humble submission to God Almighty…” When the ANC came in we then fell under an anti christian government – by your fruits you shall know them. Corruption, violence etc. Although I believe we still have more freedom in SA than the USA or Europe. Howver God will not allow a country peace and prosperity that openly rejects Him and so there will have to be a catharis before we come back to God. I’m British originally and rate S.Africa many times better because many of it’s population still submit to God. God will help us overcome a godless governemt!
Hi John,
It is amazing. We are separated by a great ocean, yet have the same God, the same concerns, the same troubles. May God help us both, and keep us safe.
I am a bit confused about a thing or two and maybe you would know the answer?
1. Van Rensburg saw that Britain would attack South Africa – why?
2. If property rights are made away with, why would Europeans still want to come here?
Could you explain please? Thanks!
Hi Andre
I do not see where I said that here in this post. Maybe it was in another post I have, or something you know anyhow?
Britain would only attack South Africa if British Interests were threatened. It was a colony of Britain at one time, and many English people are there. It might be an act of self defense.
Things may change there in South Africa. I am not sure how yet. Governments do have a way of changing hands, as one leaves power, and another comes in. Somehow, it is supposed to be a place of refuge in the future, instead of a place of oppression.
Marianne
Britain attacked us for our gold and diamonds…and they got rich while we remained poor! Interestingly, so many of the British soldiers remained after the war and became …..Afrikaners! Earle, Keevey, Nell, the names say it all!
It is in one of the letters from Boy Mussman the close friend of Siener Van Rensburg. I quote:
“Na daardie twee groot slaë gelewer is op die Westerfront Kom Vyf Duitse oorlogskepe na Duitswes en een Vliegkamp skip na Duits Oos. Sodra die oorlog skepe land, sien ek die Engelse vlug weg uit Rhodesiä en Kaapland. Ons Parlement sit daardie tyd. Dit het gereen en die gras is groen.”
– (rough translation) I see 5 German ships on the West and an aircraft carrier to the East of South Africa. When they dock I see the British flee from Zimbabwe and South Africa.
Hi Andre
Well, that would make sense…if Germans and someone else is attacking south africa, and attacking British people, Britain would have to come to defend them.
It is not a good thing when Germany is against England, and then America becomes an ally of Germany. This means America will turn evil.
No, I will upload the PDF book somewhere for you to read. The British are actually the aggressors and the Germans are supplying the South Africans with weapons. Sorry Marianne, you are not South African are you because you are overlooking the Anglo-Boer war and the results thereof?
Hi Andre
Yes I am familiar with the war……I was just confused when your question indicated the British attacked, and then your next comment made it sound like the Germans were attacking.
If you can send me extra reading, I would appreciate it.
Hi Marianne/
Good to see that the plight of white South Africans has not been forgotten. It is an absolute atrocity, that which is currently taking place in the country. We as South Africans are most concerned about our future and are slowly coming to realise that ultimately we will have to take a stand against the barbarians that are destroying the last hope for Africa. The current elections might pan out in the favour of peace loving and hard working white Christians but I somehow doubt it. We need a miracle if the Afrikaaner is to survive here any longer. We did the right thing to end apartheid, but now we stand powerless against murderers, rapists and general anti-white terrorism. The averege white man woman and child in south africa is under threat of their very existence. A time bomb waiting to explode is the underlying hatred that blacks always have and always will have towards whites. I myself have witnessed a number of things in the country that do not bode well for the future. And yes I can see why the “uhuru” predictions and the warnings of “Oom Nicklaus” seem very probable now more than ever before.We are painfully aware of what a race war entails and it iis the last thing that any peace loving south african be they black or white needs or wants. Keep up the good work.
Peter
Hi Peter,
This is definitely a world that has gone wrong. I wish there was a way to help those in danger in South Africa. If there was a idea that would produce success, and it was within my capability, I would do it. If there is any way I can help, please let me know. I am a person of simple means, but I am willing.
“5. The coming Third World War will be started in Europe by a terrorist character called The Turk and his fighting force. This fellow seems to attempt an attack somewhere in Germany, but he is smoked out before he can do so, and then the fight is on. He is assisted by three Indian terrorist groups, also deployed in Europe, and they work together with an evil group of Englishmen. The symbolism employed makes it clear that these are terrorist groups, and who else but the revolutionary Islamic terrorist groups are this active today on a world wide scale? The governing body of this evil and hidden group of people is the UNO (in Europe).”
I think this is it…
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8011790.stm
What do you think?
hi Johnrev
It definitely has some of the elements predicted. I always thought that the final terrorist would be from Turkey, be Turkish, or be associated with it. The one who attacks Israel will be called the Assyrian, but part of modern Turkey was part of the ancient Assyrian empire.
The time of the gentiles is ending. 1948 + 70 (time of captivity, time of one generation) = 2018.
2018 – 7 = 2011. Things will be accelerating now until 2011, then they will totally go off the deep end.
“5. The coming Third World War will be started in Europe by a terrorist character called The Turk and his fighting force. This fellow seems to attempt an attack somewhere in Germany, but he is smoked out before he can do so, and then the fight is on. He is assisted by three Indian terrorist groups, also deployed in Europe, and they work together with an evil group of Englishmen. The symbolism employed makes it clear that these are terrorist groups, and who else but the revolutionary Islamic terrorist groups are this active today on a world wide scale? The governing body of this evil and hidden group of people is the UNO (in Europe).”
Why do I have a feeling that this is all connected with the bust in Germany?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1172651/Pakistan-verge-collapse-Taliban-surge-Islamabad.html
and do you really think it is all over in 2018?
HI John REV
At the current pace of Islamic aggression, added to the pacifist response of most countries, it looks like most, if not all, will be over in 2018. I cannot say “all” since I am not God. But there is logical grounds to say this world will be totally different by then, and much evil will occur, and go out of control beforehand.
Hi
Just a comment. 911 was an inside job. Check the buildings falling and listen to the people on the street ecspesially the firemen who survived that they. And why did building 7 after the 2 towers implode, which wasn’t hit by a plane, implode after several hours by it self. When a building was hit in the middle, which was build to withstand more then one plane crash, it will brake of and the top will collide first. It will not implode on it’s own fondament. Ask your self, who have the capabilities of imploding buildings?? Yes, correct America self not someone living in a cave 10000miles away. Go and do research or visit prisonplanet.tv or infowars.com. Oh also the Oklahoma building was also an inside job. Just by looking at the photo you can realize that a truck bomb in front of the building would left a crater in the ground and the building would not have explode but the opposite. And George Bush is evil but also just a puppet for the New World Order. Also want to add. Britain wont fight for there people if the darkness begin in SA they will rescue them by flaying them out of SA.Check out British http://www.MI5.gov.uk. The New World Order is about to take shape with Obama the newly ellect puppet. Britain and America will be the NWO. The American people is in the same position as we SA are. They are losing there jobs daily and there houses and there water food and medicine are potioned. There constitution are also under attack and there guns will also been taken away soon. Their money mean nothing and the bailout plan is the beginning of taking away everything they own. Soon their money wont mean nothing.Then the NWO goverment will own them. So what I am about is that no one in this world is safe anymore. It is not just SA. Forget about freedom and the land. Its about God our Lord Jesus that will come soon after everything progressed. No one will stop what is happening now in this world.
Another thing, dont forget that the Christians that have came to SA is the same Christians that have came to America ass well as history know this. So I take my hat of to those Americans that is now awake that knows the truth and stand with God for the fight of their lives. SA people is still asleep. Sorry but this is true. That is what the ANC have accheived. They are also just puppets for what is about to happen. Remember it was Rhodes and Millner who started appartheid. It was never our founding fathers intention to rule over people. Best regards Diaan SWA.
Hi
Have more to say.Who is the god of this current world?? The answer is satan. Why does every one believe that it is only the islamic people that is the enemy of us and the rest of the world.We are brainwashed by the media that is belonging to the same people who put us in this very potition through our so called leaders and schools and churches. In some cases yes but remember it is the money powers, the elite, the buldeburg group, the iliminati the rochefellers the rochchilds ect. that play nation against nation. No war have ever started without their involvement. They like money and power. The whole idea is to kill 80 percent of the people of this earth. Remember that there is still soles to turn so dont blame the islamic or any other nation for all our troubles but start talking to them about God and that through Jesus they can have eternal live. Race nor color is the problem. Any one can be a Christian if they believe that the Bible is the only truth in this world and that Jesus has died for our sins and trough Him they can found salvation. Awoke before it is to late. Start researching now if you dont believe what I am saying. Remember the occult, witchcraft and satanism does ecsist. Yes they still kill people or babies for lucifer. What do you think abortion is all about?? Babylon is still amongst us. Every where we look is sin. Our children’s games movies and nowadays is our schools. They are taught newage releigon. Its ok to be gay?? Walt Disney? Who do you think he was. He was a 33degree freemason and also gay. All the walt disney movies comes from this instituite. Wake up people you are being brainwashed and you are letting your children fall into this darkness. Harry Potter. This is real witch craft, real spells real darkness. Not just a movie. Even finding Memo is a movie with certain intentions. Hey an atheist made this clear to me. If an atheist can see the truth of how our Christians are deceived then we are so far gone. How about your elections their now is SA. It doesn’t even help to vote anymore. You have to choose between the devil’s plan in white or the devil’s plan in black. It is the same devil.
Hope to everyone that reads this. Lets pray for our enemies salvation.
Greetings
Diaan SWA
Hi Diaan,
what you say is very true. Islam is a problem, but there are definitely other satanic influences around us that can destroy us.
so where is this PDF book of siener ?
Hi Hodd
I never received it from the person who said he had it…..I will have to write to him, and see if he has uploaded this to the internet yet.
If you ever find it……put it onto ftp for everbody to read. Sort of “banned” here in SA…..
I have been reading up on Siener for quite a while, it is amazing how accurate he has been, NASA has recently sent a rocket to the moon for “exploration”. They are bombing the poles “looking for water”… Could they be testing these weapons that Siener speaks of? Siener also predicted that Mandela would be buried in a glass coffin at the Union Buildings, apparently this has already been organised?
Hi Dev
You have good questions. I cannot answer them. WE just need to keep watching the news for something that might give more information.
I am very interested in Siener’s predictions and feel that they are highly accurate…what wories me, is that I don’t identify myself as ‘white’ , just South African – I am in a mixed marriage and don’t feel comfortable about the prospects of a race war…question: how do we love our neighbour, who is black ? there are not only ‘white’ Christians, you know…concerned Capetonian.. PS i have read one of siener’s books, In English..very good!
HI Paul
Ideally, race should never matter, but apparently it does to some people.
We are all a mix of something now. I have relatives that came from different countries, who seem to have mixed genetic backgrounds.
We should love our neighbor, but we do not have to be their victim. Use wisdom.
Seiner seems to have been fairly accurate, from what I can tell, and not influenced by “public media,” which many false prophets use now to promote themselves.
Hi Marianne…race to me is not the issue, as a I attend a mixed church and live in a mixed residential area (one of few in Cape Town)…my concern is that, if one considers siener’s predictions to be accurate, then one in the future , if one is ‘white’ will have to choose sides…it assumes that God has racial favourites, when before the throne in Revelation we see people from every creed, language and tongue..even the apostle paul says that we are neither male nor female, Jew or Gentile, bond or free but all one in Christ…so how can I, as a Christian, support a future where one racial group dominates another , considering that , surely, there are Afrikaaners who are white, but not born-again, and others who would be seen as the ‘enemy’ but know Jesus? This is my main concern, not the accuracy of the visions, per se.. God may use certain groups at certain times in history for His own purposes, I do not dispute that…and yes, that can change…but as a believer the idea of ‘all white christains vs all non-white non-Christians’ bothers me…any ideas? I write this as a concerned believer in Jesus, not as a ‘white’ person!
Hi Paul
I think the Christians will just have to evaluate the situation when it occurs. No christian will want to fight another one anyhow.
What will be the issue that starts the fight? Will it be race or religion?
I would think that whoever starts the fight will not be a Christian.
Personally, I would not fight myself, unless I was attacked, or someone I knew was being hurt.
This may be something that Christians, both black and white, need to discuss ahead of time, and decide how to protect themselves and stick together.
Hi Paul! A year later and I see your post. “White” in these visions means “true Christian” and not ethnic white. The opposite is true for black in his (and my) dreams. Bear in mind whom the interpreters were/are.
I don’t see God as racist, my broer! Check Collossians 3…go read it to my fellow white countrymen whom think God is their exclusive privilege….
Hello Marianne
Good reply, thanks…
wondering what others think?
I am not so starry-eyes however that I believe we will all live in ‘peace, harmony and the brotherhood of man,’ indefinitely….
The clock is ticking…for the King of Kings to return..and yes, surely before then, we are in for dark times indeed, and need to be prepared!Mandela’s death could be any year now (a few left, at most) he is being kept alive by the grace of God, for afterwards?!!..
Paul
In what country do you all stay. Siener van Rensburg? Read what Deut. 13 says about visioneries and that we should not go after them. Also a wake up call should be given to all those who want to go to heaven…there is no heaven! The Bible says so. Jer 23″:5 say Kind david will rule on earth…so where does they heaven come from? Heb 11:13 says all the great men died not having received the promises…so nobody is in heaven. I dont understand all the hoo ha made by so called christians…maybe they are not true christians….Christ spoke of a little flock and little is definitely not the hordes of Christian which cannot agree on the basics. So what is the truth? Here is 1% of it:
1. Sataurday is the sabbath and not the day of he sun or 1st day of week.
2. God has 7 annual festivals and not xmas and Easter which are in actual fact pagen…yes I know you hide behind thamm as merely family days…Our God is a jealous God.
3. Don’t eat pig…why cause God said so.
4. Dont wear makeup ….cuase god said so.
Enough…go to the only true church site and read for yourself
http://www.realtruth.org …. and come out of her ()
Siener van Rensburg books available from Radio Pretoria (dept) woord en klank (word and sound ) mainly afrikaans language some translated
So…the great leader has fallen? Eugene Terblanche a South African leader of the AWB has been killed on his farm, hacked and clubbed to death. Yhe AWB notorious for their Right wing efforts to ensure that the country does not fall into the hands of the communist, failed, afterwards South Africa was delivered by FW de Klerk (Nobel “PEACE” Price Winner with Mandela).
I believe that the leader that would be burried and flames will erupt around his coffin and then one huge flame from the front might just be this leader, humiliated and demonised before he was locked away for some attack on a petrol attendant. Again, like most news in South Africa, could have been easily orgastrated to get rid of anyone who stands in the way of the worlds new goverment… Christianity is balancing on the tip of a knife. The battle has already begun. Events had been put in motion that can now not be averted, stopped or side-lined. Siener van Rensbug, a revereant himself, a devout Christian and humble servant of the God Almighty, prophecies yet again starts to make sense…. Could this spark a race war all over the world? Could this be the catalyst? The tension in South Africa is at a all time high… And the news report again, purposely misdirecting, that this radical man died because of a wage dispute – demonising him yet again as an unfair and unjust man… This even after fact that 1600 Boers were tortured, some raped and all killed after 1994, with the inception of Mandela. And yet the ruling party keeps quiet about these events.
I noticed John had questions on the British that fought on the side of the anti-christ. This is a simple question to answer. Van Rensburg mentioned the 5 evil (powerfull) men in England that are throwing their plans against the Christian. Even in the old South Africa, the biggest share holders of gold and platinum mines were British owned… The White rule used the profits to build infra structure and produced the most modern civilsed country on the African continent. The British seeked out an ally that could be better manipulated, the black South African. With stereotyping and other arts of war the British powers concocted a plan to bring this old lost colony back under their rule – through the hands of the Xhosa. They just misjudged the plans of the old friend of Cuba and Russia – The Zulu. Mr Zuma, the new Dingaan, Zulu King. Living in ultimate wealth. Costing the tax payer already 16 million rand. Funny, people thought that the white Afrikaner enriched themselves… Did you see the farmhouse of Mr. Terblanche, did you see the humble means in which he lived? Did this house, furniture and out-buildings strike you as a wealthy person in SA? The lies are woven and the world swallows every last drop of it. The Media is after-all the court clown of the New order. The propaganda machine. Lies that will melt like butter in the mouths of the poor unsuspecting viewers/slaves at own will. This is indeed the most dangerous time the world has ever seen. People are slier, smarter with manipulation, artful in deception than ever before. Are we going to be ready for this? The prophecy has been foretold and the warnings were highlighted in the last Book. I can only pray now. I can not see the peace that many of our white South Africans thought will be instilled after ’94 between all races. I remember that black people streamed from their ungovernable northern African countries to South Africa to work on the mines. They worked, enriched the British and the Afrikaner ensured infra structure, water, power and food (Boer-Farmer). This era was known as the Republic of South Africa. Crime was the lowest in the world, at a time the Rand was as strong as the dollar…look it up. And prosperity was slowly but surely borned into this beautiful piece of earth. The government of that time also had raised and funded Homelands, and their vision were simple. Help these Homelands to rule themselves. Lesotho, Swaziland and Venda were all products of these. The black population moved into South Africa 400 years ago, moving from central Africa. The white populous from Europe 250 years ago. This land was undisputedly won with the blood of many Christians. This country were in the hands of God and there was prosperity. Now, it is a place of terror. Hatred. Fueled by the powers from the greedy powers.
There is a promise that I know South Africans will keep with their last dying breath. There will always be a place for Christians in this country. And there is a Promise that God will keep over this country, like bloodbonds shared with Him in our previously historical battles. He will keep us safe. We will fall under his protection. The seal will mark this people. I know this, because we are a good people, kind and faithful. We will not become dust in the wind. 30 000 Boers won against a British army of 400 000..in the name of the Lord. We were protected by His glory. We survived the Great battle against the Zulu’s of bloodriver. We will survive this too….
Ek vir jou Suid-Afrika.
from, a child of God.
As I said before, the British will never be welcome in South Africa. They have caused to much pain.
Many British are GOOD people…
small prophet
I agree with you 100%. Once again He will show the world His power through us, the Boer people, as He did a couple of times over. If you think of it, we should have been wiped out a couple of times.
Ons vir jou Suid-Afrika
Nicolaas
He will only do it through us if we truly repent from our pride and ego as a Boer nation and allow us to be His instruments…..
AWESOME WEBSITE!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11670247
Cameron and Sarkozy hail UK-France defence treaties
can anyone say rather odd =)
God Bless
It was in 1976 and I where my first year in high school – when people from america wanted to make a film about everyday South Africa – We where practice shooting with .22 rifles using normal round paper targets – When a program on verslag where shown, we where shown shooting and then they showed the other side instead of targets there where blacks laying on the ground – filmed 80km away in Pretoria , sleeping during there lunchtime, the filmed our principle praying ( they made him pray 8 times in Afrikaans) and they translated it to their own version of praying .
Very few blacks where killed by whites in South Africa since 1948
most blacks that where killed where by blacks and lots of them by winnie mandela’s slogan “with our matches and our necklaces we will liberate this country” ( necklace putting a tyre round a persons neck douse it with petrol – gasoline and put a match to it. And some John where somewhere telling about a friend who where a Rambo – I now a lot of guys who where not even in the army telling such stories – ( I where on the border wars for 11 months)
dear Wynand
It is obvious you were betrayed by Satans’ people for political reasons…..you have my prayers …..I pray you stay safe…….
What I have read on this blog is shocking, are you really Christians? Who are you to condemn another Human being? God is the only person who can judge and condemn. I think i is time you started praying for your redemption
In 1652, Jan van Riebeeck made a covenant with God, that South Africa would become the torch-bearer of Jesus Christ and, ever since, there was a diabolical effort to thwart this.
Karl Marx’s sister married Cape Town lawyer Jan Juta and that is how Marx got an inroad into the media. His ideologies were accepted by the wealthy Cape English and Jews. It was the FIRST organization in South Africa to EXCLUDE blacks by virtue of its constitution.
Marx, however, saw that changed after he had convinced SACP leaders to include blacks and exploit them as FREE SOLDIERS by means of violent strikes and riots.
The white Afrikaner, outnumbered 10:1, foresaw terrible oppression and totalitarian atheist control. Their REACTION to the black violence and riots around 1860, together witrh their experience with British usurpers and oppressors, is what had given rise to apartheid.
APARTHEID WAS THE DIRECT RESULT OF BLACK RACISM AND CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE. IT WAS NOT BORN OUT OF HATE FOR THE BLACK MAN BUT AN ACT OF SELF-DEFENSE.
Of course, when white Dutch settlers BOUGHT land, they were murdered in cold blood. When blacks were racist before the white man arrived and still kill their own, it is only the white man that gets accused of racism.
BLACK RACISM IS NEVER QUESTIONED, EVER!!
Nelson Mandela had sided with Soviet and Communist Chinese leaders and fought side by side with the antichrist, but gets hailed as the world’s greatest statesman ever. This is factually incorrect as his hands are dripping with the blood of so many blacks tortured and brutally killed in Camp Quadro and others across Africa.
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=5704 http://www.frontline.org.za/articles/heart_of_communism.htm
http://answerit.news24.com/Question/Question.aspx?QuestionID=87523
http://answerit.news24.com/Question/Question.aspx?QuestionID=87523
http://www.justice.gov.za/trc/hrvtrans/soweto/leballo.htm
http://www.timeslive.co.za/opinion/letters/article237992.ece
http://www.timeslive.co.za/sundaytimes/article221251.ece
ALL SOUTH AFRICANS BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW WITH SPOTS, PINK WITH STRIPES, SPEAKING AFRIKAAANS – ZULU OR FANAGALO OR WHATEVER, READ THIS PAGE!!!
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/angelicas-experience-with-hell-and-heaven/
Talking About Prophesies:-
I don’t accept many of these as true because of many frauds,
Decide for yourself if true or not.
A PROPHECY FOR SOUTH AFRICA &AFRICA
Sent by Pastor Amaka Abe from Nigeria.
I spent my time praying one early morning while travelling in
Nigeria. Suddenly I was in the spirit and I heard the voice of the Holy Spirit.
“Write down what you are about to hear.”
Suddenly I saw the globe and the continent of Africa was in front of me. I saw myself walking from the South to the North. Everywhere my feet fell, I saw rings similar as when a stone is thrown into a pond. These rings went from South Africa all over the continent of Africa, the sea and to the other parts of the world. I asked the Spirit what the meaning of this was and this is what the Holy Spirit told me.
“The rings you see are the healing, saving and miracle power that will start from the Southern tip of Africa. This will be a mighty outpouring of my Spirit and many will come running into my Kingdom. AFRICA WILL BE SAVED!!.
Many people from all over the world will come to experience the power of God. You will see things you have never seen before. THIS IS NOT THE SO CALLED END TIME MOVE, but this is a move where sons of God will raise up and take their rightful place.”
As I moved to the North, these rings just increased in magnitude and as I stepped into Israel, I turned around and looked back to Africa. I stood amazed as I saw the cross over Africa. The foot of the cross grounded in South Africa, the left and right arms on the horn of Africa and on the Western coast of Africa and the top of the cross on the North edge. Suddenly the Spirit spoke to me again……
“My time is now, where I will make My Word come true, Africa will be saved and this Gospel of the Kingdom of God will go from South Africa to the rest of the world. From now on Africa will evangelize the world, and this initiative I will start from South Africa. The best time in the Spirit is on your doorstep South Africa, now you will see My power and love in action. In the darkest moment My light will shine and no darkness will quench it. I’m raising sons who will stand on My Word and will proclaim what I say.
Do not let your heart be troubled, don’t flee South Africa; God will bring the knowledge back to South Africa. A white cloud (Gods Glory) is rising from the South and the Glory of the Lord will cover the earth.”
About 3 months later, one morning in a church service, I was caught up in the Spirit again and God showed me another vision. This was strange because I have NEVER experience such visions before.
This is the vision: I was sitting in an aeroplane and had a window seat. We were flying very high, as if we were in outer space. As I looked out of the window, suddenly I saw a giant cross. Behind the cross I saw the globe and again the continent of Africa was facing me. Suddenly the cross fell down and as I watched it, I saw it was on its way to the earth.
The cross went straight to the Southern tip of Africa and it pecked itself in the Southern tip of Africa. Again I saw the rings as when you throw a stone into the water. I heard the same voice saying, “That is my healing and miracle power that will flow from South Africa to the rest of the world. It will start there. I have a plan and no one will stop me”. Suddenly I saw the Southern tip of Africa becoming blood red and it moved upwards into Angola, DRC, Nigeria till it covered the whole of Africa. Again I heard the voice of the Spirit, “I will move mightily and soon you will taste My might and see what I have in store for My children. It is time for the Spirit-filled to come together as one. Don’t look to colour, for this move is not prejudice. Change your minds and seek Me with all of your hearts. It is time to leave your petty arguments and seek My face”, says the Lord, “for I have a plan. I am about to bless My people abundantly more than what they can think. Supernaturally you will experience My provision. Be faithful with what I give and I will open for you a window of heaven”.
This word must reach each and every South African. Send it to the South Africans overseas. Be sure, God has chosen this nation to show the world what and who He is. Send this to your friend, pray together and help us as South Africans to call Gods Word into action. Families, call on the Lord, seek His face and He will heal your houses, your businesses, your government and your churches and you will live in peace and no harm will come to you.
He knows the plans He has for us, plans of a great future and of a good hope. In Jesus Name, AMEN.
This was received in the year 2011.
I thought this was a good website, but total crap.
Who started the killing and the apartheid ? The lovely christian Boers ? Who did slave trade ? The lovely white christians ? And the crap land deals ? The honest white christians ?
My God is love.
My God Commands restitution and forgievness,
therefore blacks forgive you.
However, restitutions in full still awaited, if not stop fooling yourselves. The wheels are turniing the other way. Sorry for you. Feel it yourselves.
But God is faithful. If you really know him, and cry for help, He will never forsake you.
Amen
second time I find pastor Abe’s vision on the Internet…
I have read a lot of stuff abour this Third World War, I thought it was going to occur in the whole wide world. I was very suprised to know tha our loved father Tata Mandela is also part of this N.W.O
hi MKHULULI
Mandela is a Communist, so he would be involved.