Speaking in Tongues – the Science and the Spirit

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While many Christian denominations deny the experience, scientists have already accepted it, and are doing brain scans, showing results. But is what they find a mental change, spiritual change, or both? Can the spirit produce a physical change?
The Bible says that we must renew our mind. The minimum requirements are to reject sin, repent, and accept the salvation offered by Christ. This level of interpretation has to do with changing our thoughts and behavior, in line with God’s standards of righteousness.
But can thought changes produce physical changes? Will a renewing of the mind renew the body?
Previous posts have asked what is different about our physical bodies from heavenly bodies, or those of fallen angels.
See posts:
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/does-satan-have-a-body/
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/prophecy-rapture-and-the-science-of-time-travel/
http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/quetzalcoatl-the-god-behind-the-mayan-prophesies-for-2012/
Now I ask what is different about the spiritual (with God) man’s body, from the natural (against God) man’s body?
It starts in the mind, but does it end there? The brain affects the rest of the body.
I also ask, if true, that the spiritual man actually has different brain chemistry, which would then produce a different physiology, then is he closer to the physical, more glorified condition that Adam was in, in the Garden of Eden?
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Scientists have done brain scans on those speaking in tongues, and find chemical changes. They find this is believable, even when some Christians do not. This is a strange twist of circumstances, since usually science will try to oppose religion, and here, there are some scientists that believe more than some Christians do.
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Brain scans of those speaking in tongues
Glossolalia and Temperature Change in the Right and Left Cerebral Hemispheres
Authors: Ron Philipchalk; Dieter Mueller
November 09, 2006
The neuroscience of speaking in tongues:
The New York Times has covered a recently published brain-scanning study of five individuals who ’speak in tongues’ – an experience also known as glossolalia – where someone appears to be speaking in an incomprehensible language over which they seem to have no control.
This is usually linked to religious and spiritual worship, particularly for Christians in the charismatic tradition. A team of researchers, led by Dr Andrew Newberg, used a type of brain-imaging called SPECT to compare blood flow differences in the brain between when participants were singing hymns and when they were speaking in tongues.
The main findings were that when participants were speaking in tongues compared to when they were singing, there was a decrease in activity in the prefrontal cortex, the tip of the left temporal lobe and a deep brain structure called the caudate nucleus.
Although brain areas are known to have multiple functions, the prefrontal cortex is known to be involved in cognitive control, while the left temporal pole is associated with naming and the caudate nucleus has been associated with the ability to switch between multiple languages.
The authors suggest that these findings may indicate a loosening of control over language functions in the brain, potentially leading to the production of apparently unstructured language that the participants experience as outside their control.
*** note: Is it possible that Adam, in the Garden of Eden, could speak unstructured, multiple languages?
And maybe his brain, more in tune with God, actually allowed for a flow of unlimited languages directed by God, rather than a disconnected brain, limited speech, based on his own earthly abilities?
Notably, there were also relative increases in activity in the left parietal lobe (linked to our sense of body and spatial awareness) and the amygdala – an area known to be heavily involved in emotion.
However, this is not the first time that neuroscientists have studied speaking in tongues.
Dr Michael Persinger reported a case in 1984 where he used EEG recordings to look at the electrical activity in the brain of a 20 year-old female who experienced the same phenomenon.
The graph on the left shows EEG recordings taken from the temporal lobes during a period of speaking in tongues that show increased ’spike events’.
This indicates that, like the more recent Newberg study, changes in temporal lobe function may be an important part of the experience.
Link to NYT article ‘A Neuroscientific Look at Speaking in Tongues’.
Link to abstract of SPECT study on speaking in tongues.
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Glossolalia vs meditation
http://www.vxm.com/NLPVitaliano.html
Delta spikes occurred within the temporal lobe during protracted intermittent episodes of glossolalia (speaking in tongues) by a member of a Pentecostal sect. There are other reports of delta activity during TM practices (Stigsby et al. 1981, Pagano et al, 1976), but these delta waves were mostly reported to be associated with stages of deep sleep.
*** interesting note: speaking in tongues produced the same results as those in deep relaxation, or deep sleep.
So tongue speaking is not due to increased mental effort. It is due to relaxing the mind.
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Science begins to make room for spirituality
http://pewforum.org/events/?EventID=185
Over the last some number of years, this hardcore materialism (in science) has eroded. It’s getting more open to spirituality. There are ideas that come out of the field, which leave room for spirituality, and also explain it.
One is the plasticity of the brain, the incredible adaptiveness, the fire-together, wire-together idea that we’re not hardcore driven by material things, that we’re wired to adapt to environment and that the nature-nurture distinction is a bogus one, and that therefore, this plasticity makes it a less material, less predetermined organ.
Second, again, is the power of the unconscious, the power of things that happen below reason and rational awareness
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Summary of scientific findings
1. Tongues does produce measurable changes in brain activity and blood flow in the brain.
2. Certain part of the brain experience decreased activity- those that reflect conscious (cognitive) control, structured language, and learning and memory.
What this means is that the mind is
a. not controlling the tongues,
b. language become unstructured and something the person is NOT familiar with
c. real tongues is NOT a learned, or remembered, manifestation.
3. Speaking in tongues is not due to increased mental effort. It is equated with deep sleep or deep relaxation.
4. There are spike events with Tongues, showing momentary decreased blood flow. Spikes are also found in epilepsy, but at a more intense level.
Before one becomes concerned that tongues is harmful, one needs to understand what epilepsy is, and how the EEG (brain electrical activity) is different from tongues.
Epilepsy reflects abnormal, excessive or synchronous neuronal activity in the brain. This means that during the disease state, excess neurons are firing in unison, causing a seizure. In this case, the spikes are continuous, and excessive.
However, during tongues, the neurons are firing in spikes at much lower frequency intervals. There is a certain advantage to neurons firing in unison, to achieve a successful effect. But in tongues, they are “working together” but the participation is NOT excessive.
What can also cause brain malfunction, is if the neurons never work together, in unison.
Tongues seems to be a condition between the two extremes of excess spikes, and none at all.
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Spiritual application of scientific findings
Perhaps man, in his fallen condition, is in a state where his 1) conscious (cognitive) control, 2) structured language, and 3) learning and memory, as changed above, is alienated from God through sin, and a negative worldly environment, that is so very opposite of what Adam experienced in the Garden.
Another way of saying this is that with God, all things work together well, and man’s mind is open to God’s direction and control.
But without God, there are limitations in these 3 areas mentioned above.
Does tongues bring man’s mind back into balance, closer to his original mental state?
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Fake and real tongues
Fake tongues reflects:
1) conscious (cognitive) control,
2) structured language, and
3) learning and memory,
The excess stress created by the excess conscious control could produce excess EEG spikes, and cause a seizure, or partial seizure condition.
Real tongues is the absence of all 3 characteristics. There will be no excess stress, since it is effortless, and God has taken over the brain. The result will be more compared to deep relaxation or sleep. Rest restores the body, and helps it repair from harm.
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See also:
“Fake and Real Charismatics” Click here for more
“Baptism of the Holy Spirit and Speaking in tongues” Click here for more
“The Church is Having a Power Failure” (signs and wonders gone in the church?) Click here for more
“The Wheat and the Tares” Click here for more
“God’s Glory- a Practical Application” Click here for more


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Speaking in Tongues – the Science and the Spirit « Heaven Awaits said this on February 19, 2009 at 6:54 pm |
When Christian leaders say they got filled with the Spirit but did not get tongues, I have to wonder, after what I went thru re; this. I went to the altar many times, seeking the infilling. My church was stearn on believing it always comes with tongues, and I believed them. But I got no tongues. Years later, after giving up, I still once in a while muttered “tongues” under my breath during worship. I noticed when I did this, I saw visions and heard words from God for others present. I found I already had tongues, but had not known it.
Looking back, I can see there was a hesitancy in me to look foolish before others, and that is why I did not believe I got tongues earlier at the altar. I had blocked it myself. I have to wonder if this is why our present leaders often do not get tongues. Maybe they are unwilling to look like a fool to others.
I later had John Wimber as my pastor. One of his famous sayings was, “I am a fool for God. Whose fool are you?” Now I am willing to be a fool for God. I treasure the gift of tongues.. DavWms
Hi David,
Many people cannot receive the baptism in a public setting, while others can. Groups can make us nervous. I went through what you did…..but I finally received the experience alone in my bedroom during private prayer. So all ended well.
I think we receive what we ask for, when it is something special like this, but the manifestation may occur at a later time.
Some do not believe in tongues, and so they will never ask, and so they will never receive or manifest the gift.
Like you said, it is a gift to be treasured.
blessings
marianne
I agree with the two of you. I went to the altar, but I left drunk in the Spirit with no tongues. Yet years later it manifest. At that time I could have cared less about the gift, because all I wanted was to minister the word, and I didn’t need tongues to do that, but Holy Ghost power. Even today I still say as Paul said, Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
I have also been in churches where everyone was speaking in tongues and I did think they were all mad. There was no order.
If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28 but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God.
23 Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad?
Hi, Patrick, yes, I’ve also seen tongues used out of order. But most who argue against tongues make a simple mistake. There are several kinds of speaking in tongues. Paul knew when he wrote to the churches, that they would know which type he was talking about in each case.
The first type was shown when Peter stood before the crowd on Pentecost and spoke in his own language. Yet each in the crowd heard the words in their own dialect. No interpretor needed.
The next type is when we pray in tongues, and that is different from the other types. That is when our own words are not sufficient in our talking to the Lord, and the Holy Spirit in us prays thru us, for he knows the right words. No interpretor needed.
Another type tongues is usually what we hear in church, and like Patrick said, it should have interpretors present to let everyone know what God is saying thru the one speaking in tongues. It is often exhalting the Lord Almighty, but sometimes is prophetic words for the people present.. DavWms
When people speak against tongues, more often than not they have not seen the different types, and condemn them all.
I agree there are different types, and like you I have seen them used in several ways. I think the most alarming for me was when a young lady was barking like a dog and the pastor was saying let the Lord have His way. And there were still others down on all four crawling around like animals howling. This often happens in many churches where there is a lack of discerment.
Tongues and in a personal pray language it what i’ve seen most.
Yes, Rev. Patrick. I also saw that “Toronto Movement” come into my church, and I watched with amazement. I saw some people actually being dealt with by the Holy Spirit, and some obviously manifesting of demons, and some faking it to look like they were also having an experience with God. And the pastors looking upon it all as if it was ALL of God. Discernment was lacking, and I am concerned that if so many were fooled this time, what will the devil’s next move accomplish?
As that movement progressed, we saw the leaders of it make up excuses for each of the odd manifestations, trying desperately to show it was all from God, even tho it looked like nothing shown in the Bible. People are hungry for God to manifest, and this makes them ready to believe anything supernatural. Sad. DavWms
I know. That it what will lead many to fall for antichrist. If they couldn’t see Obama, they wouldn’t see him, nor will they discern their being deceived. I value your insight and wisdom my brother. Both you and Marianne have shown a great desire to serve the Lord.
Good morning. This is a post to link to when I et time. I’ve never read a report on tongues from a scientific standpoint. I’m not sure how to reply as there are so many thoughts going throughmy mind, but here it goes.
I received the baptism of the Holy Ghost in August of 1984. It was the first time that I had ever visited a full gospel church and it took place during prayer before the ervice. It happened so fast that it caught me off guard.
Fast forward to 2009 and I find that a lot of my prayer time is without understanding and most of this is in song. It almost seems more natural than my own words. Most understandable prayer requests are for those around me; saints that are struggling, unsaved family members, and what have you. As for me, I’m simply content. There’s nothing in this world that I desire, save more time freed up to do that which the Lord has placed on my heart.
I know that we live in a time of incredible deception and that there is a lack of discernment these days. This makes Jude 20 all the more prominent. “But ye beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost.”
I’ll have to revisit this post later on this weekend. Have a blessed day in Jesus.
timbob
Tongues. I only have one. That would be a tongue. Sorry. Just in one of those funny moods. It seems “tongues” should be listed with the rule, “You never talk politics, religion or tongues”. It seems many are wired so tight, there beliefs get in the way of their ministry.
The world is lost just like it was 2000 years ago at the day of Pentecost. It is easy to believe the tongues thing happened then, because it was 2,000 years ago. Today in the average church, tongues don’t happen for whatever the reason. Is God grieved, I don’t know. Maybe.
I do know he wants the same thing. He wants to be glorified and that happens when we lead others to exchange their life for the life of Christ. If tongues encourages that to happen, then so be it. If tongues gets in the way, then save it for the prayer closet.
God wants all to love Him.
Hey Archie,
Well, like everything else man can mess up, this is no exception.
If the Holy Spirit is really involved, all will go well, and there will be good fruit produced.
Otherwise, the wacky fake stuff creeps in.
blessings
marianne
of course speaking in tongues has a measurable effect on the brain, so does everything else. the existance of trance-like states and speaking in tongues has never been in question from a scientific standpoint. what you are implying here that this is evidence of “spirituality” measured by scientific means- this is obviously nonsense.
speaking in tongues is not a purely christian phenomena. it was passed down to us from ancient forms of spirituality which used ’shaman’ or ’spirit guides’ (often under the influence of hallucinogenic drugs of course). whether you call it “deep relaxation”, “hallucination” or “spirituality” is really immaterial, these are all labels for the same thing- which is a material occurence.
if you would like to delude yourself into beleiving this is a “miracle from god” then don’t let me stop you. it may be more interesting to realise that what you are really doing is tapping into your subconscious mind. the surrealist and dada art movements are exemplary of how fascinating this can be- many drawings, paintings, sculptures and performance pieces used exactly this technique.
p.s. much of your interpretation of that science is deeply flawed. “Over the last some number of years, this hardcore materialism (in science) has eroded” this simply isn’t true. determinism is still a question of philosophy and not of science.
Dear zarathustra
You quote you disagreed with came from the article where the speakers were:
David Brooks, Columnist, The New York Times
Andrew Newberg, Assistant Professor, Department of Radiology, University of Pennsylvania
The points were summarized above, but I will repeat one of them. Speaking in tongues, if genuine, and not contrived, will be the result of decreased cognitive function, not more of it. It is also a measurable experience.
The issue is how does this come about? The religious position is that the mind relaxes and God takes over. The scientific position is that it can exist, but it does not know how to produce this effect itself. It cannot point to a source.
I suggest you try to speak in tongues, and have someone measure your brain. If it shows increased cognitive function, then it is not the real thing. If it shows the opposite, then you made it.
Before you critique a phenomenon, it would be wise to understand it. Until you do understand this, and reproduce it in order to study it, you cannot correctly label it science, philosophy, shamanism, or God.
blessings
marianne
your reply fails to answer or even understand any of the points i just made.
of course it is the result of a lessening of cognitive function. it is the process of letting the brain slip into a kind of autopilot. meditation is one way of doing it.
out of interest, could you tell me how in that study thet induced tongues in the people who’s brains they measured?
Hi zarathustra.
One thing I thought was interesting was the fact that more language came out of a person, when they disconnected their conscious effort, sort of speak, and just used less brain matter. So they accomplish more, with less effort? It seems like the opposite of what we try to do every day. We typically increase our efforts to accomplish more, not the opposite.
The tongues in this study were not induced. To induce brain spikes, for example, would be a safety risk, since the person could go into seizures. This would be unethical to harm a patient.
The person was already like that before they came in. That is also interesting from a scientific standpoint, which raises the question, how does this happen if the person is putting out no conscious effort.
Tongues, if genuine, which can be confirmed by the brain scan, raises the question of its source. I understand you to be an atheist, so you would not consider God as a source. But then, if not God, where does the language come from?
Normally we think of language as a product of learning. It takes us a few years to teach our very young children to talk.
Is it possible that language is actually innate, and does not have to be learned? If we would stop teaching, and forcing learning on the brain, would it come up with information on its own, because it has been allowed to relax?
Just some thoughts.
blessings
marianne
It does not surprise me that “tongues” have been around in places other than the Christian circles. I dealt with a woman seeking healing from terminal cancer. She said she would not turn herself over to God until He healed her, first. Several of us tried to convince her she was telling a sovereign God what He had to do, and it likely would not work. When we tried to tell her the Gospel, she began babbling, or I should say, blubbering in tongues. When she did this, we could feel the evil, and knew she was demonized and it was speaking thru her to stop her from hearing the truth. It always stopped on command, but only until our next effort to get her to see the truth. She never would give in to God, and eventually died of her cancer.
BTW, I once saw a glowing orange ball about the size of a tennis ball, hovering in front of her face. It went back into her as i came near. DavWms
Hi dave,
That is a good point. Not every unstructured language in tongues reflects God. It could also be demonic. I have mentioned this on other pages but not this one, I should update the post.
thanks
m
After reading there were only five people tested, I quit reading. That is not science. That is liability for fraud. There must be a large number of persons from various areas, backgrounds, ages, and ethnicity. The people then are split into two groups with one being the control group in order to make a test valid. This type of “report” is what makes non-Christians say Christians are uneducated fools. Preach the word.
dear Lisa,
This website is not an online scientific publication. The data was NOT collected by uneducated Christians, but scientists.
For glossalalia, the negative control would be someone who did not speak in tongues. There is already plenty of data on this. The positive control would be the subject who was capable of tongues, but is not actively speaking in them.
The publications apparently passed peer review and the editorial board for the Journals, so the level of controls were adequate.
These are the sources of information for this article, if you wish to read further. You should direct comments to the primary author:
The idea behind this post was not to present data to the science community, but to inform the Christian community that scientists have been studying glossalalia, and found physical evidence for it.
There are plenty of spirit filled Christians who would be happy to be test subjects for testing, since it is an interesting phenomenon.
The scientists only need to ask for more subjects to increase the data base.
The Word is preached here. Remember that God is the creator of science, and we find increasing evidence in science of what has already been declared as true in the Word.
Man is just starting to discover, and prove, what God has always known, and established long ago.
As Christians, we already know the Word is true. But it is good to hear that unbelievers are finding reason to believe as well.
blessings
marianne
Marianne- Don’t listen to all the naysayers! I think the fact that you cover such a broad spectrum of subjects to be very interesting!
By the way, I was curious where you got that picture at the top of the page and what is it of? It looks like some sort of flames or whatnot all around the people?! DO you know what it is?
Hi Catrina,
I got the picture off the internet – images section. It is a revival in Zimbabwe. It looks like tongues of fire over their heads, just like on Pentecost. I thought it fit my topic.
marianne,
Being filled in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, is very personal to me.
It is for my personal prayer life, and very powerful. It is my direct line to HIM, and He has done some very wonderful things for me as I pray in tongues.
I was taught it was of the devil. I backslid and when I came back to the Lord, about 30 years ago, I did not go to church, and did not belong to a church.
I picked up my bible, dusted it off, and started to read it and pray. I also turned on TBN every night. I started seeing all the ways I had been deceived, and I wanted what they had.
The difference was , they had the Baptism in the Holy Spirit. I stayed home, read the bible and prayed. I never prayed for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, I just studied about it.
I began realizing I was groaning when I prayed. I did this for a long time, when I read that was the Holy Spirit in the bible. I gave HIM my tongue and it flowed out. I was at home, with husband in bed. I could not wait to get alone with HIM at night.
God eventually led me to a Spirit filled church, where I had good teaching. I was not deceived any more.
It is not scientific, it is not a phenomenon, it is very real and powerful, and very private to me. There is no way you can convince someone that does not believe in tongues that it is real. It is one of those things you must experience, and no one can tell us it is not real, we have experienced it.
Patty
Thanks Patty,
Yes, the experience is really spiritual. We have so many unbelievers, even within the church, that sometimes they will not believe anything until they see “proof.” Those with the faith will not need this. Those with little or no faith need more.
God seems to provide whatever is needed to reach people, even science, so there is no excuse for rejecting the truth of the holy spirit. For me, the Word was enough to convince me, once I actually realized that this precious gift was available to me. It has really kept my sanity and soul through difficult times, when I had no idea what to say in prayer, because the situations were so confusing.
blessings
marianne
I got delivered a month ago from past abuse from men, the reaason for this was because the guy I was going out with always manipulated me. I felt I always attracted this kinda men. I was sexually abused when I was a child. After my deliverance, I saw my boyfriend in a different manner. I became distant, I kinda showed hate towards him. I also experienced oppression and a sharp pain on my left shoulder. I also experienced restless nights and my spirit felt like Jello..meaning) when I laid down I felt like I was trembling. I also felt fear, anxiety, and stress, and bad luck. I also had bad news and my son came home drunk and began to get angry..So its almost a month now and ttoday, I eel relaxed sort of. But it was a fight..at one point I thought my soul was going to leave my body. I felt it driting, after my deliverance a few days later, I also experienced a nervouse break down, and my chest was sore or awhile. I had some pins poking me, but that started way before…got worse after being delivered. One women spoke in tounges, no transelators and it was hands on healing. I felt possessed with a religious spirit. my question is..Is this normal? she said demons attack you after cause they dont like you being delivered and also they are in shock..I had healing from a Shaman a long time ago ater experiencing witchcraft, and she took it off and I felt fine and relief. I also Felt at peace…SO what is the difference..?
Hi Brandy,
You have had a rough time. What grieves me at this time is that there are others like you who go for deliverance and then end up dealing with religious spirits, who make things worse.
True deliverance comes from God, and you will feel like your authority has been restored. It will be permanent, although you do have to guard against counterattack, since the spirits do not like to leave. In this you build yourself up with prayer and reading the bible, and you get others that you trust to pray for you.
In false deliverance, the relief is either temporary, or if the problem seems to be gone, it has really been replaced with a different problem. Sometimes, demons will obey another demon, because they have a hierarchy. But the door is open to future problems, because the person does not have the infilling of the holy spirit to protect the person from another occurrence.
blessings
marianne
marianne,
One morning years ago, our son called and said his son, our grandson, had fallen the night before and hit the back of his head on concrete. He was then 2 years old. He had cried with pain all night . They had called the doctor and he said get him to the hospital. My husband and I met them at the hospital. My grandson had been vomiting all night, could not keep anything down. Of course, you know these are symptoms of a brain concussion. They were getting him ready for tests. I laid hands on him and prayed all tests would show no concussion and be normal. Every test they did came out normal, no concussion. He was still very sick. Every sip of gatoraid came up. And in very much pain with his head. They decided to admit him and keep him over night.
They told his mother if he did not keep anything down, they would have to hook him up to IV fluids.
Everyone went home but his mother, who stayed with him all night. I could not wait to get into deep prayer, the tongues were bubbling up in my throat.
Finally I got alone and could pray. I had prayed everything I knew to pray in my own language, it was time for tongues. I raised my arms, and the tongues started. Soon I heard in my own language, ” Lord, let me take his pain.” I knew the Holy Spirit was letting me know what I was praying in tongues. Instantly a sharp pain went from my finger tips all the way through my body.
I was speachless. I checked the time, and it was 10:00 pm. I had such a peace, and I KNEW my grandson was healed.
I went to bed and slept all night. I got up early the next morning and went to the hospital. I went in his room to find him running around playing with toys.
His mother told me the most amazing thing happened. She said she had gone to the bathroom at 10:00 pm, and when she returned, my grandson had crawled over the railings on his bed, gulped down half the bottle of gatoraid and drank it, and crawled back in bed, and slept the rest of the night. I told my daughter in law what had happened, and we both cried. She was not a believer, but was touched.
They sent him home, and we never knew what had happened.
But I knew.
The Power of the Holy Spirit!!!!
Patty
Hi Patty
That is awesome. We need more testimony like that. You can pray for me anytime.
blessings
marianne
Just so you know, Patty is an online friend of mine. We frequent a Christian chatroom and also we pray together often. We are a close group of believers. Patty and I agreed to let each other know if anything serious happened to either of us. We live on opposite coasts of the USA.
Anyway, I had a stroke about 2 weeks ago. I could barely type an email to her saying i was having a stroke, then the 911 medics came. When she read the email early the next morning, she got all the chatroom friends praying for me, and I’m sure much was in tongues. Let it be known that those prayers got me out of the hospital short of 3 days, total. The Drs were amazed how I came in near death, and improved so quickly. This is a testimony of prayer being answered. DavWms
Hi David,
You are fortunate to have a good friend like Patty. I am glad you could recover so well. I hope you are ok now.
blessings
marianne
I don’t believe that “barking and crawling on all fours “are anything from God… pastors who see this in their church,should speak up,do something, not right…
Why do you think the Bible says to ‘try the spirits not every one is From God…
some may think I am wrong is what I say, but if I was in a church that let this happen, I would be leaving….
Hi Deb,
I agree with you. God is not a fool, and does not act like one. I would be suspicious of any behavior like this.
blessings
marianne
Deb, I would also be out of there. Pastors are suppose to lead the sheep, and most are not doing it.
I agree with you!!!
Patty
PLEASE LORD DON’T LET ME BE A STUMBLEBLOCK O ANYONE…
I must say that i belief in the fruit of the SPIRIT of which tongues is but one of them, according to the bible not all of us will get all of the fruit…some will have healing, some discerning and some tongues etc. Now,what is suspicious to me is that the charismatic chearches and their preachers teach us that one MUST be able to speak in tongues when touched by the HOLY SPIRIT.
That is totally not biblical to me and a huge farce to artificially raise the spiritual level in the congregation and to gife satan a way to infiltrate the congregation…no one in that confusion when everyone and their grandma is speaking in tongues knows just which is from God and witch is from Satan…..I have attended such chearches for a number of years and was babtised in water and in SPIRIT and i truly belief to have received the gift of discerning…..and NOT of tongues… and let me tell you we have been fed a lie for many years….a chearch service should be quiet,serene and orderly with one speaking in a tongue at a time as the bible told us.
Everything in live should be test against the bible…you’ll be surprised to see how few things will stand the test.
Hi Frik,
What you say is true. Not everyone gets all the gifts. This post is about this one gift, and how to tell, at least scientifically, if someone is faking it, or has the real thing.
Wow. The topic of tongues makes a very interesting and emotional study. Unfortunately, most of what I have read here are personal opinions and/or experiential accounts. Has any one done a thorough study from the scriptures? God’s word has to be the final authority until the day we can ask him face to face. So here’s the challenge: let’s hear what you can find to support or negate the “gift of tongues”…
Hi Ian,
In this post, I show the science side of tongues, for those who are not spiritually inclined.
See the links at the end of the post, where I refer you onto other pages, that give scriptural references. The power failure one is quite helpful, I think.