The Beast – “is”- or – “is not” – Rome? – end times
(This is a subtopic of the main document the 4th beast of Daniel. See the full document for further clarification )
Traditionally, the Anti-Christ, or 4th Beast is identified with Rome. Does Daniel and the Book of Revelation point to a revived Roman Beast, or a Grecian one, or a hybrid of the two?
The reason I present this separately is because we will interpret current prophetic events in light of who we think the final beast (anti-Christ) is. So it is important first to examine the traditional view that the beast is of the Roman empire, and see if it still fits the world scene today.
The history of the Beast
A. Traditionally, people have thought the 4th beast is a Roman, because from Daniel:
(1) it says the 4th beast has iron (symbolic of Rome) teeth, but note that only the teeth are iron. not the whole thing.
Dan 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and it had ten horns.
Dan 7:19 Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth [were of] iron (ROME), and his nails [of] brass (GREECE); [which] devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; [Notice the beast is part Roman and part Grecian, not just Roman]
(2) Nebuchadnezzar’s dream statue mentions iron
(Babylon=gold, Medo-Persians=silver, Bronze/brass = Greece, iron = Rome)
Dan 2:41 And whereas you saw the feet and toes, part of potters’ clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay.
Dan 2:42 And [as] the toes of the feet [were] part of iron, and part of clay, [so] the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. [This does not indicate how much is iron, and how much is clay].
(3) Also, since the woman of the beast sits on a city of 7 hills in Revelation 17……they think this is Rome. However, the woman sits on the city, not the beast. The beast is much bigger. But there is some connection between the city and the beast, and the city is not the beast.
B. However, the book of Revelation gives more details, pointing to a Middle Eastern Beast.
Rev 13-1-4 describes the Beast, which is the Anti-christ
v1 “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
v2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as [the feet] of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.”
***These symbolic animals were originally identified in Daniel’s prophecy, and represent the modern territories occupied by the Islamic middle-eastern countries – ancient Grecian (leopard), and Medo (bear) – Persian (lion). So, the beast is not modern Europe.
v3 “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
v4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?”
*** Some people have tried to identify this wounding with loss of power by Rome or the papacy, but this prophecy is clear that the wounding does not occur until the Medo-Persian-Grecian beast (kingdom) is united as one entity in the last days. One of the main powers in the beast will loose its authority, but then it will return to power. As politically unstable as the Middle East is, this is very likely one of the Islamic nations. Power is always changing hands in this region, and heads of state have strong political enemies.
In Revelation 17, there are:
7 heads = 7 mountains (Rev 17:9)….….also 7 kings….5 have fallen, one is….and the other not yet come…the beast is the 8th king….and is one of the 7 , and will go into perdition. The history of the people who produce the beast, then, have
1. a history of being ruled by kings, and
2. being enemies with Israel.
10 horns are 10 future kings…. that have no kingdom yet.
History and Today’s Reality
Please observe carefully the distinction made between “what is,” and what “is not” here:
The angel in Revelations 17:8 told John the beast [the wounded head spirit] was [before Johns' time], is not [during Johns' time], and “yet is.” Somehow, the beast is a mixture of “is not” and “is”, indicating a hybrid if some sort.
Verse 8 also says the beast “shall ascend out of the bottomless pit [the ABYSS], and go into perdition [evil deeds],” and become the eighth in a line of a succession of kings that started with ancient Egypt and flowed through Babylon. They are 1. Egypt, 2. Assyria, 3. Babylon, 4. Medo-Persia, 5. Grecia, 6. Rome, and 7. end time (seventh kingdom) and 8. Antichrists, the eighth.
Verse 10 describes the succession of 7 kings before the final beast takes power: “five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet to come.” The current empire was Rome.
But then verse 11 re-emphasizes “And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.” [Note that it does not say the beast is of the 6th, the one that “is,” which would be the Roman empire]
To qualify as the beast, it would have to be “was,” and “is not” during the time of John. Since Rome “is” during John’s time, and not “is not,” this also shows that it is not Rome, but an empire that occurred before Rome. Recall that in Revelation 13, the previous ancient Grecian (leopard) empire, with some Roman (iron teeth) and Medo (bear)-persian (lion) elements, that will arise to be the beast, fit the description of the 7th and 8th beasts. This is the hybrid predicted in verse 8.
He, the wounded head spirit, is the eighth head, but he came out of the seventh kingdom. The seventh kingdom is the end time, physical kingdom, lead by the seventh physical king.
The seventh king, comes out of ten kings from that region, acts as the peacemaker, is given back his ancestral throne [seventh kingdom], whose capital is Baghdad, and whose kingdom is within the area of the Seleucid portion of the Old Grecian Empire, Prince of Persia’s (Satan’s) old domain.
The final Empire that spreads over the area covered by the old Grecian Empire, is the Muslim Empire. There is also the other side of the regions spiritual coin. The Kingdom within the Muslim Empire, that is within the area of the Seleucid portion of the old Grecian Empire, with Baghdad as its capital, is The Hashemite Kingdom. [Baghdad is right in the heart of Babylon, Magog] See map- white outline is Hashemite kingdom:
That That Empire, whose capital is Babylon, is the Moslem Empire. It’s son, the kingdom of Allah’s Prophet, Muhammad, is the Hashemite Kingdom, whose capital, Baghdad, is centered right in the middle of the action on today’s stage. And, the Hashemite King, whose Kingdom was stolen from him (wound to the “head”), by none other than Egypt and Syria, is the key player in the regions peace process, and is already being hailed as the peacemaker, by its friends and enemies alike! The Hashemite King is religious royalty, the heir to the throne of Muhammad, prophet of Allah, he’s the rightful owner of the Hashemite Kingdom, keeper of the keys to the holy shrines of Allah. He also currently controls the Temple Mount. Will the Hashmites return to the throne and control this area again?
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