The Fourth Beast of Daniel and Revelation – the Antichrist of Islam – the 12th Imam Mahdi
Traditionally, the Christian world has thought the antichrist was a Catholic Roman, and somehow the European Union – the “revived Roman empire” – would be the headquarters of the beast, because in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream in Daniel 2 mentions “iron” in the feet and toes. However, there are many other prophesies that also give details that may point to another region, religion, and person. Integrating all these prophesies together, along with history, modern day events, and geographical areas mentioned in scripture, one is faced with a modern day reality that is staring us in the face, and we must consider this possibility that this is the real identity of the Beast.
This is to present the glaring reality of Islam in light of the prophecies in the books of Daniel and Revelation. This is meant to educate and have people reflect on what I say. We are almost upon the final days of the end times. If we wish to survive, we cannot afford to be wrong in our judgments, and allow evil to overtake us in a deception. Please prayerfully consider what I have compiled and presented.
All respect is given to those of any faith who read this, including Muslims, if they are seeking the truth of God in setting them free from error, and wish to know more about their eternal destinies.
May God bless all who read this, and open their eyes and hearts.
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Marianne’s note:
There are several theories out there about the Antichrist:
1. it is a Pope from Rome
2. it is a European, from one of the original states that made up the ancient Roman empires
3. it is a middle eastern, from one of the original states that made up the ancient Grecian empire. (Bible calls him the Assyrian)
4, although the bible does not mention religion of the Antichrist, many think it might be Osama bin Laden, because of his current terrorist activity. This makes the connection to radical Islam, which is known to persecute Christians.
There are mixed religious groups within each territory.
The bible also describes him as someone who does not respect or desire women, and because of this, some claim he is homosexual.
The bible also says that even a Christian can be Antichrist in spirit, if they just claim they are Christian, but disobey what Jesus taught, and God’s commandments. There have been Antichrist Christians in history who have persecuted others.
I think there will be speculation until the Antichrist actually shows up. It is wisdom, however, to explore every possibility so that we are not deceived.
There are times when I favor one view over another, because of current evidence. However, I do not know with certainty WHO the Antichrist is, and I can always change my views, if new and stronger evidence is found. My intent is not to harm anyone of any religion, but to send a message to anyone who would be in harms’ way because of deception.
In the view here, I am seeing the Antichrist as a Muslim, but if I thought it was a false Christian, I would also discuss this as well.
The point is that the Antichrist is everyone’s enemy. His true identity will be confirmed when Jesus defeats him.
My view is not the ONLY one, and I am not claiming to be error free in my thinking. I stand corrected if new, contradictory evidence arises that convinces me as well.
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Actually it is traditionally thot that the false prophet will come through the catholic papacy. The antichtrist is a different person.
The New World Order is one agreement with 3 headquarters (false trinity) with one God/Allah . A multi-cultural faith (mixed). The worship of Jesus as God will likely be banned once this is set up and agreed !
Moving to the anti-christ he is more likely to be of Jewish descent but in a position of political,religious and royal bloodline. He will likely be 30 yrs old if he is to be accepted by Jews as their Messiah…and there is only one “candidate” I know alive today who fits…and he will be 30 in 2012.
In Islam, we have some one named Dajjal. Try to read about him from the Muslim perspective.
The Muslim perspective is based on the viewpoint of Islam’s false prophet, who took all that was prophesied of Christ and Antichrist and reversed it to prevent Muslims from taking the correct view.
Derek Stansbury, Who are u referring to that is the candidate for the Anti-Christ, and who will be 3o yrs. old in 2012?
Brian Curry
Indiana, US
Only Protestants think this hardly traditional idea.
All thoughts welcome. What I do is just make certain thoughts of mine known so they can be factored into other things people are considering. I guess we will find out when things develop more.
Why not apply logics only before deciding who is the anti christ.
what does it mean Anti Christ? Does it mean enemy of Jesus? if yes, Muslims will not have the Anti Christ behaviour. In fact, we respect Jesus (Eesa(peace be upon him)) and believe in him that he is the messenger of Allah. So why the the anti christ from the Muslim community. it is impossible and illogical. we have to find who was the enemy of Jesus from his date back? Only those who hates him when he was on earth will start hating him now also. Or Anti Christ may mean a country ruler fighting the real Christianity rule or the Bible’s teachings. In this case we have to find a country that is trying to destroy Jesus teachings by any means. Which country is doing this business? Take out the major countries involved in hating and destroying Jesus teachings.
1. USA – They have destroyed the bible teachings in every way.
2. Europe – They are partner with the USA.
3. Russia – Socialist does not believe in religion. But Putin is trying to restore Christianity as per some rumors.
4. Muslims – Sunni – They never hated Jesus or christians. In fact, we are told that people of the book (i.e Christians) are the nearest to you. If you find one who hates Jesus, then he has rejected the Quran and he is not a Muslim but he is treated as kafir.
5 Muslims – Shia -They are in trouble with the Sunnis and USA + Israel.
6. Israel – They have admitted that they have crucified Jesus and also they hate Muslims and they rule over Europe and USA with their banking system.
7. China – They have a very different religion and are peaceful people
out side of their country.
Therefore, First we have to define what anti christ mean and then apply the definition or meaning to people/peoples or country Ruler or united countries ruler that matches with the definition or meaning.
This is only to my knowledge.
Ali
You are asking a legitimate question and the answer is complex.
You have to click on the pdf file above to read what the bible description is of this person.
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
truly, this person really hates God, but will also hate Jews and Christians especially, and will persecute them to death.
there is also a geographical identity to the antichrist figure. He is from one place but will travel to another place before he is finished. He is part of an ancient empire from long ago, which now includes mostly Islamic countries. But as you say, this does not mean he is a muslim.
in fact, the bible says he abandons the faith of his fathers and has no god but himself…..so if he says he is christian, jew or muslim, it is still a lie, because he makes the god of forces and himself ruler over all. he will put all 3 groups at war with each other.
and one has to do more than say they admire Jesus…….to be free from this description……the bible says that in the last days, that people will kill others, saying they are doing God a favor.
Currently, we see this happening with Islam, and millions of Christians have been hated and killed by Muslims. I know not all Muslims are like this, but it is happening, and so this points the identity to the Muslims for now…..to truly love Jesus, you have to love his followers also.
Israel is not killing Christians, Muslims are. Currently, in Syria, for example, they are collecting the blood of murdered Christians and selling the blood for profit. They kill the Christians every day somewhere in an Islamic country. It is a blood bath.
We all know that it is a small number in every religious group that is not peaceful, and creates violence.
I would be very happy not to label any large group because of what a small part of that group is doing. But for some reason, small groups are in control, instead of the large groups.
for example, there are mostly peaceful americans, but we do not support the war that a few people in power want to have.
the antichrist is a SPIRIT, which can infect any group…..it seeks to destroy what God has done and what he wants……it lies about Jesus and God to everyone, and wants to remove god from the earth. it will destroy anything good in its path.
we have to understand that the antichrist is really a human or human hybrid who is possessed by satan……he is therefore satan himself, and not a human of any sincere relgiion.
I wish all muslims peace….and hope they are protected by God from the evil that is to come soon.
1. Where exactly christians are killed by Muslims.
2. Who ever is killing Christians must be some one trying to create a war between Islam and Christians.
3. Remember the Christians under Syria President leaves peacefully until the USA and Europe brought the so called Muslim Fighters as their proxy fighter against the regime. These so called Muslims fighters are helped by Christians. Are you going to tell me that these Christian nations are against Christians? There must be someone who is not Christian doing all these. if not, then these nation’s leaders are not Christians if they help the so called Al Qaida or Muslim fighters to kill millions of Christians. Who is killing who?
All the terrorist attack is done by the name of Islam. Who knows about these terrorist intentions. They may be working for America under the name of Islam. They may be fighting for the Israeli regime to create economical problems on other nations. They may be fighting for a hidden government and hidden agenda.
But all of these fighters are wearing a mask called Islam and Muslims.
Who knows? These fighters are may be Christians with big beards, trained to act like Muslims on the field.
All Muslims fighters are supported by USA.
Who rules America?
Russia? No way.
The Arabs? No way.
Israel? Yes
Christians? Maybe..
our leader has many musilms in positions of power and influence around him.
but yes the muslim fighters are supported by USA….and they are killing christians in syria
Which leader are you talking about? Bush? Clinton,Reagan.
Don’t forget that the Lobby in America with power to force the American president is the Jews one (AIPAC).
The arabs are not there. if there are, they are sent by Jews.
You know the only country looking for war against Iran were Israel and Saudi Arabia. Means they are sisters and brothers. These applies only to the rulers not the whole Muslim Populations.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/frontpagemag-com/the-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates-obama-administration/
You seem to be very reasonable.That is why I am asking you your view on the 12th Imam and its amazing resembelance to our anti Christ?
John, actually about 90% of Americans are true believers in Jesus as the Son of God, and try to live according to Gods Christian law.
Muslims are the worst enemies of Christ and Christians ever.
This is very well documented. I have preached for 20+ years what I term; The Islamic beast theory. The 8th empire was one of the 7 that “is Not” At the time of the writing of this prophecy, Babylon was the nearest to the “is not”. You hit that right on the mark. I am going to come back to this when I have more time to make notes. Thank you for your work.
Rev Len,
Thank you. Feel free to share this with others.
marianne
I am very pleased to see this subject being raised because it is something I have been considering recently. Not that it dawned on me that your contention is possible, but that people become hemmed in by their devotion or dedication or strict adherence to a single thought. While specialization is good in this sense it is like blinkering a horse in another sense. Witness the problem of the Roman Catholic: because the Pope is infallible he can not err. If he misspeaks than doctrine has to be changed. Witness Ellen Gould White and the Seventh Day Adventists: EG White is infallible, so he contention that the Roman Church is the beast means they have to preach this or reject her, or at the very least demote her. Thank you for this site
Ron
Dear Ron,
Thank you for your comment. I am trying to present an alternative view here, so that people think past the traditional one, which was around long before Islam took over the world scene.
marianne
I am not an American, nor do I see things the way Americans do. Perhaps its because I’m a bit long in the tooth but I seem to remember that there were three superpowers not too long ago: USA, Russia, and China. When Russia “fell” the US began to claim they were the only superpower. 3 minus 1 = 2, not one. North Korea is also a superpower, though it keeps this quiet. Russia may have reduced its arsenal but I seriously doubt they got rid of it.
Also It concerns me that there are 2 superpowers right there in America that are being overlooked as a possible connection: The Word of Faith Movement (Rhema) and the Signs and Wonders Movement (Vineyards Church, International House of Prayer, Keansas City Prophets).
Hi Ron
So you think the beast is more of a religious movement than a physical nation or kingdom? that is possible too. 🙂
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Mehdi is not an Anti Christ. He fights for Islam only. He unites the Muslim and fights the soldiers that conquered the Muslim countries. In fact he will accept Jesus as his leader and follow jesus.. Also, There will be time that Muslims and Christians will unite to fight a common enemy. It can be at Mehdi’s era. But the only problem i am unable to understand is which christian will create unity with the Muslims. is it the Orthodox, or The Catholic or both ? i will leave the answer for you logical explanations?
I don’t know answer.
the reason people suspect mehdi is because he has a ruling period of 7 years…and this last fierce leader who comes to destroy has a 7 year covenant with many against Israel. so they both have the 7 years.
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I have some research about Mecca here (this is NOT spam). I hope you get a chance to see it. it is VERY serious, this is not spam. Mecca could be the woman that rides the scarlet beast, and the Mystery Babylon the great might be uncovered in the research too. it is all speculation, i am not trying to say this is it or anything, but please add to your knowledge so that you are aware:
http://meccasevenmountains.blogspot.com/
Hi Jonathan,
That is a good theory. I had been looking for an Islamic city on 7 hills ( mountains) so I proposed Istanbul. Mecca makes more sense.
I will be looking at the website you gave me.
blessings.
marianne
How many know that Mecca is ‘The city of seven hills’ today.
Saudi Arabia fits much more then Rome:
1) Saudi Arabia has influence via Oil over the kings of the earth (17:18).
2) Corrupts the nations (17:2; 18:3; 19:2) with Islamic influence.
3) Even Mecca is called “The city of seven hills” today.
4) Persecutes the saints (17:6). Do you see any persecution in Rome today? Yet in Saudi Arabia believers are “be-headed”, exactly as Revelation stated “I see the ones who were be-headed …”.
Isaiah 47:10 – “For thou hast trusted in thy wickedness: thou hast said, None seeth me.”. The Saudis commit sins and live in pleasures and lusts, yet they think that since it is all hidden, that it is ok, but God sees them.
This cannot be New York since sin is out on the open. This city is sinning in “secret”.
Revelation 18:9… And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning.
They will cry for Oil and is no more, since the Oil was the reason they all prosper.
Revelation 18:11 – “And the merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her, for no one buys their merchandise anymore”
Saudi Arabia and the Islamic world will no longer import the products that the West makes.
Isaiah 47:15 – Thus shall they be unto thee with whom thou hast laboured, even thy merchants, from thy youth: they shall wander every one to his quarter; none shall save thee.
All the export companies will take off from Saudi. Saudi lives TOTALLY by imports.
Yet what are the most things Saudi imports:
Revelation 18:12 – “The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones”
Go to Saudi and see for yourself the bazzars, what are they selling? Gold, silver, and diamonds.
“and of pearls”
They buy tons of pearls from other Arab countries and from Japan.
“and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet”
They love fine silks in Saudi.
“and all thine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass”
They love to buy expensive decorations, even ivory is sold in Saudi for expensive swords and dagger handles. All sorts of wood work is also bought to decorate their castles, brass art works and copper tables and decorations is well known amongst the rich Arabs.
“and iron, and marble”
Iron for construction and marble for the flooring and exterior. Who else uses so much marble in houses like the Arabs of Saudi? They import marble from Turkey and Italy.
18:13 – “And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense”
Spices, perfumes, and frankincense are well known in Saudi.
” and wine”
Most of the rich Saudis drink in secret.
“and oil, and fine flour, and wheat”
They import ALL their foods.
“and beasts, and sheep, and horses”
Arabs love sheep (lamb) meat more then any other. This cannot be the West which is famous for cattle. They also race horses and all of these rich Saudis love Arab horses.
“and chariots”
Chariots? They import ALL there cars.
“and slaves”
Aha … slaves? All workers are imported from all over the world, they even literally have slaves.
“and souls of men.”
Souls of men ??? !!! They corrupt the souls with Islam. Who else fits that bill more then Mecca which tries to Islamize the world? Saudi Arabia funds almost EVERY Islamic movement to Islamize the world.
18:15 “The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing”
Yes indeed, all the companies that export to Saudi will suffer a loss.
18:16 “And saying, Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls! ”
decked with gold? They use the simplest things made of gold. Even the faucets are made of pure gold for the rich Saudis. How can anybody miss that?
18:17a… “For in one hour so great riches is come to nought.”
Islam has also killed 270 million christians
You misunderstand the Muslims. Muslims hate USA and other countries not because they are Christians but because they are supporting Israel which is the enemy of Islam. I don’t know why the Christian society hates Islam and Muslims.
because Islam kills us…….
1. Where exactly christians are killed by Muslims.
2. Who ever is killing Christians must be someone trying to create a war between Islam and Christians.
3. Remember the Christians under Syria President leaves peacefully until the USA and Europe brought the so called Muslim Fighters as their proxy fighter against the regime.
These so called Muslims fighters are helped by Christians. Are you going to tell me that these Christian nations are against Christians? There must be someone who is not Christian doing all these. if not, then these nation’s leaders are not Christians if they help the so called Al Qaida or Muslim fighters to kill millions of Christians. Who is killing who?
All the terrorist attack is done by the name of Islam. Who knows about these terrorist intentions.
They may be working for America under the name of Islam.
They may be fighting for the Israeli regime to create economical problems on other nations.
They may be fighting for a hidden government and hidden agenda.
But all of these fighters are wearing a mask called Islam and Muslims.
Who knows? These fighters are may be Christians with big beards, trained to act like Muslims on the field.
All Muslims fighters are supported by USA.
Who rules America?
Russia? No way.
The Arabs? No way.
Israel? Yes
Christians? Maybe..
Muslims hate Christianity and all who hold it dear. They imagine a Jewish and Christian society that never existed, in their own image. That – therefore just their own selves- they honor, not accepting Christians or Jews for who and what they really are.
I have some input to join your conquest to protect the true messiah (Christ) from that of the false(antichrist).Muslim too believe the false messiah will have a 3 symbol mark on his forehead. two of which corresponds to the likeness of the greek numbers following the pre vatican book of reverlation stated to 616 made up by 600+10+6.
now by koranic letters, clearly the 10 and 6 are the same. but not the 600 which is a X.
I hope you could shed more light on this, as this is the era to join force for misconnections will lead us to our own distruction.
May god be with us all.Ameen
A Muslim Brother
Sources:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread80914/pg1
http://www.666man.net/666religionhistoryoverview.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dajjal
Trump throws up the 616 in his right hand…mark, number, of beast
Hello Faiz,
I am not familiar with the different marks you describe, but if you give a small, detailed explanation, I would be glad to post it as the Muslim viewpoint. In the meantime, I will look at your references.
Thank you
blessings
marianne
Hello Faiz ( again 🙂 )
I looked at the references, and I found them inconclusive.
First about the number 666. From one of your references, it appears that 606 or 616 was just a scribe error. His handwriting may have not been clearly legible, and the 1 and the 0 were written instead of the 6.
There are several theories out there about the Antichrist
1. it is a Pope from Rome
2. it is a European, from one of the original states that made up the ancient Roman empires
3. it is a middle eastern, from one of the original states that made up the ancient Grecian empire. (Bible calls him the Assyrian)
4, although the bible does not mention religion of the Antichrist, many think it might be Osama bin Laden, because of his current terrorist activity. This makes the connection to radical Islam, which is known to persecute Christians.
There are mixed religious groups within each territory.
The bible also describes him as someone who does not respect or desire women, and because of this, some claim he is homosexual.
The bible also says that even a Christian can be Antichrist in spirit, if they just claim they are Christian, but disobey what Jesus taught, and God’s commandments. There have been Antichrist Christians in history who have persecuted others.
I think there will be speculation until the Antichrist actually shows up. It is wisdom, however, to explore every possibility so that we are not deceived.
There are times when I favor one view over another, because of current evidence. However, I do not know with certainty WHO the Antichrist is, and I can always change my views, if new and stronger evidence is found. My intent is not to harm anyone of any religion, but to send a message to anyone who would be in harms’ way because of deception.
In the view here, I am seeing the Antichrist as a Muslim, but if I thought it was a false Christian, I would also discuss this as well.
The point is that the Antichrist is everyone’s enemy. His true identity will be confirmed when Jesus defeats him.
I will be glad to post this response to your note in the post, so that people will not assume that my view is the ONLY one, and error free in its thinking.
blessings
marianne
After reading all these replies,one is left just as confused and bemused as before!
I’m sure that the unfolding of Biblical prophecy will not only be different than it seems, but different than it can seem!
All these theories and ideas are mere speculation, and the final truth, more than likely, will be 180 degrees from all the interpretations that have been submitted.
Christian book shop shelves, are filled with a myriad selection of authors claiming to the the truth about the last days.
However there can only be one truth,which, with the travail of time, will reveal itself in cold hard reality.
Israels Messiah came and went and was missed by most of the people of the time, even though the learned ones were more than familiar with prophetic writings of His arrival and mission.
It would seem that as followers of Christ, it is far more important to keep a check on one’s heart, more than tickling the mind with endless chatter, about events that may not be realised until they have passed!
In the final analysis,we may all do well to take heed, to what Bertrand Russell said.
“It is not good enough that we see things the way they seem, but that we see them the way they really seem!”
Islam has long been unfolding one satanic plot. What’s to be confused about? There has never been another false prophet called by all the world the prophet.
hi Glenn,
What you say is very true.
The attempt here is to raise awareness of the topic, and get people to examine all possibilities. This way, we not not fooled or deceived when the time comes, because we have been thinking about it, and suddenly, all the pieces will come together, and we will understand, and act accordingly. For those who have put no thought into this topic, there is a possibility of spiritual blindness, which could lead to being deceived, and therefore hurt. I want to help others avoid this happening.
Some comments here, or maybe most, were made without looking at the PDF file I have offered. The PDF file explains why I think the way I do. At this time, this seems to be the most likely scenario, and it is right under our noses.
Take a look at the file and see what you think.
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
But as you say, what matters is that our hearts are right with God.
blessings
marianne
I’m not so sure if you have the woman on the hills part right, as scripture says mountains.. and some seem to take this as kingdoms. If you could clarify that more in your pdf it would be great.
Love it! I’ve studied revelation a lot and now I can’t deny Islam as the beast at all, it fits too well.
It is Mecca that sits on seven hills and seven mountains Loz.
Hi Loz,
One thing about God’s Word is that we have to continually study it, to get the revelation that was intended. This is my journey. Sometimes my interpretation strengthens over time, and sometimes it evolves into a better one, and I correct what I originally thought.
The woman on the hills is really up for debate. I have heard other legitimate interpretations of her as well. Someone else told me that Mecca had 7 hills too. Maybe they are kingdoms, and not hills. At this point, I was trying to take it literally.
Here is a more recent post. I identified 7 “heads” that would most likely be involved by looking at ancient maps of the Seleucid empire that was also within the Assyrian empire.
Maybe this is more accurate. I just sit here and keep thinking, so all comments help me to sort through things.
blessings
marianne
Marianne, I have looked at your PDF article, “the fourth beast”, and would like to make some comments about it.
First a comment on the time of Daniels writing. which seems to be a “typo” as it reads 165 B.C.
The book of Daniel was written between 616-534 B.C
Next; You mention that the four kings that succeded Alexander the great were Antigonus,- Syria,(Eastern) Ptolomy,- Egypt,(Southern)
Cassander,- Greece, Macedon, (Western) and Lysimachus,-Asia minor,Turkey,Trache,(Northern).
The last three are correct, but the fact is, that Alexander had five “generals”,(not only four) and Antigonus was slain at the battle of “Ipsus”.
So correction please, Seleucus was the general that took over the “Eastern” or Syrian divission.
Now to the main part. It may come as a shock to you, but the prophecy in Dan 7. , is NOT directly related to Nebuchadnezzars dream of Dan 2., For the following reasons;
God had proclaimed that Judah would be serving Babylon for 70 years, and in Jer.27:7 it discusses three generations of kings that will rule over Israel during the 70 year captivity.
Yet Belshazzar, contrary to modern theology, was not the grandson of Nebuchadnezzar, but the Great grandson.
Here is how it happened; Nebuchadnezzar ruled for aprox.41 years.
His son Merodach,(also mentioned in the scriptures) ruled for aprox. 6 years, and was murdered by one of his sons, Then there were aprox. 6 years of “insurrection”. This brings us to 53 years, of a total 70 years predicted by God.
Then Nabonidus (the third generation) rules for the remaining 17 years.
But wait ! Was not Belshazzar the King who saw the writing on the wall ? Yes he was, and he was the son of Nabonidus, and the GREAT grandson of Nebuchadnezzar. So how is this possible ?
Well , see in the last three years of the Babylonian captivity, (year 68,69, and 70) King Nabonidus had to go defend the Eastern border against the Medes, so he made his son,Belshazzar, “co-regent” with himself, while he was gone to war.
This is why in Dan 5:7 Belshazzar offers Daniel gifts and the promise that he, Daniel would be made the “third ruler” in the kingdom, if he could decipher the writing on the wall. (Because Belshazzar was the “second ruler” under his Dad, King Nabonidus)
So we see that God’s word was correct, that Judah and the nations would serve three generations of Babylonian kings, as King Nabonidus died the same night as his son Belshazzar, when Darius the Mede, and his son Cyrus took Babylon.
On a side note; Darius the mede was the King who put away his queen Vashti, and married “Esther”, a Jewess, (That made Cyrus a Jew as well) and that is why Cyrus was prophesied about in Isaiah, 175 years before this, as God’s servant,
Now back to Dan.7 . When Daniel has this vission, it was in the “first year of Belshazzar”. This is very important, as this refers to the time-line of the year 68, of the 70 year captivity.
In other words, the captivity is almost over. next we notice that the angel tells Daniel in verse 17, that at this “late hour” of the captivity, these “four beasts” are four kings that “SHALL ARISE” (future tense) Meaning that they could not represent Babylon, as it was coming to an end. These four had to be some future kings, after the Babylonian kingdom.
When correlating this with Rev.13, we discover that they are indeed “end-time kingdoms”, at the time of the predicted Antichrist. So who are they, and particularly to this discussion, who is the “fourt beast” ?
Before I explain that, let me first correct another problem with your article, Marianne. You have laid an incorrect premise, (probably by mistake) for understanding of the territories of the animals discussed. God is not the “author of confusion”, and so we know that he does not change the premise on us, so when he calls Babylon an Eagle (Ezek 17) then that is always going to be the symbol of Babylon, as a Gentile nation. (not to be confused with the Eagle of the tribe of Dan of God’s chosen people)
Marianne, you equated Greece with a Leopard, Media with a Bear, and Persia with a Lion. This is not biblical !!! and it will distort the prophetic vission totally.
God calls Medo-Persia a “Ram with two Horns”. (Dan.8:3-7) Thats the everlasting symbol for Medo-Persia.
God calls Greece an “He goat”. (Dan.8:5-) Even secular history bears this out, as Alexander’s son by Roxana, was called Alexander “Aegus” (Alexander the Goat), and he was burried in “Goat City”.
Arabia has always been known as the territory of the “Leopard”.
See, once we get our “ducks in a row”, it becomes relatively easy to understand all of this.
Now, who are these four beasts ? Well since we have established according to Rev.13:1-2, that hey all are “end time” kingdoms, and that the first three, the Lion, the Bear, and the Leopard, make up parts of the “fourth beast”, it should not be to hard to identify them. ( My book “None Dare Call It Deception”, explains all this in detail. just click on my name at the end of this post, and it will take you to my website)
Because of time constraints, let me simply identify them, without any explanation. The first three beasts that make up part of the “Fourth beast”, are as follows;
The Lion represents England, The Bear represents Russia, and the four headed Leopard, represents the four largest Oil producers in the middle east, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, and Iraq.
These three become part of the “Fourth beast”, which the book of Rev.17, explains as the “beast that was , and is not”, at the time of the giving of the revelation to John in 95/96 A.D.
So the eighth King,(who is one of the seven) comes back to rule for a “second term” in the latter days, and must come from the “first five”. They were Egypt, Assyria,Medo-Persia, Babylon and Greece. Which one ?
Dan.8:22-23 reveals it to be the Revived GRECIAN empire,(under the four generals after Alexander the great)
Verse 23 is the “key scripture” that unlocks the secret. “In the latter time of their Kingdom,(when the transgressors are come to the full)” Transgressors will not come to the full, until the very end of the tribulation, and then God’s wrath will be poured out on them, in the Battle of Armageddon.
So the “Fourth beast” is the revived Grecian Empire, and it is from this Eastern (Syrian) divission of the Grecian empire, that the Antichrist will appear, and “subdue” the other three Kings, and be in controll of the old Roman empire territory.
Just to clarify another aspect, the city on seven hills you all are speculating on, Is Jerusalem. Jerusalem is built on seven hills, not only Rome or Rio de Janeiro etc.
Morgan Sorensen
Hi Morgan,
I have noticed the similarities between ancient symbols and modern ones, ex the use of the lion, bear, etc, so I can see how a more modern application could work as well. I agree that it is the revived Grecian empire, rather than the Roman, that so many adhere to. In one place, the Antichrist (ruler of fierce countenance) is referred to as the Assyrian. That makes it rather clear.
blessings
I suspect Marianne is correct…so is Walid Shoebat abourt the beast etc.
Did you know?
The city of Mecca is in the middle of seven hills
Mecca is a city in the South West part of the present Saudi Arabia, not far away from the Red sea. Centuries before the rise of Islam, Mecca was serving as the main religious, cultural and commercial center for all of the Arabic tribes. An amazing detail about the city is that it is surrounded by seven hills.
Mecca is also the city which gave birth to Muhammad (the strongest antichrist ever to appear throughout the last 2000 years) and to his religion of Islam. It became the capital of the Islamic empire and the official residency of Allah. Therefore, and since then, Mecca gained the title of being called “almadina almukarrama” (the bountiful/honored city). Muslims’ prayers are required to be directed toward the city and its shrine of “Ka’ba.” It is also their duty and one of their five pillars of faith to visit the city at least once in their lifetime. Non-Muslims are strictly forbidden to touch the (holy) soil of Mecca. If someone is caught, he will definitely be put to death.
The non-Arab Muslims to the north of Israel are on the verge of giving rebirth to the Caliphate. The Caliphate is the only title of authority over all Islam, yet we see the call for it throughout the Islamic world. The Muslims are slaying over a million of non-Muslims already with the west giving a deaf ear.
Mystery Babylon is also Islam, of course mixed with Christendom’s harlots The great Whore, whom the Muslims will do away with. So the much-promoted idea that the anti-Christ will be a “Roman dictator” is wrong and more likely a Southern Russia – Gog, Nimrod, The Assyrian, The Babylonian. Since the Anti-Christ holds Babylon and Assyria he is rightfully called “King of Assyria” and “King of Babylon”.
“Woe to Assyria, the rod of my anger! And my fury is the staff in their hand. I will send him against an ungodly nation, and against the people of my wrath. I will command him to plunder plunder, and to strip off spoil and to trample them like the mud in the streets … And it shall be in that day, the remnant of Israel … shall not any more lean on him who struck him. But they will truly lean on YHWH, the Holy One of Israel. The remnant shall return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God … And a shoot [David] goes out from the stump of Jesse, and a Branch [Yeshua] will bear fruit out of his roots … and he shall strike the earth with the rod of his mouth … and the wolf shall live with the lamb …” (Isaiah 10:5, 6, 20, 21; 11:1, 4).
Micah 5 And this man shall be the peace, when the ASSYRIAN shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men. And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the ASSYRIAN, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.”
“As I have purposed, it shall rise; to break Assyria in My land, and on My mountains I will trample him … this is the purpose that is purposed on all the earth, and this is the hand that is stretched out on all the nations.”.
Curiously enough when Rome was absorbed into the Eastern Empire which was called the Byzantine Empire Christians tend to forget that this Empire was totally fallen by the Ottomans who also fell to the Brits…which also restored it to present day Islamism and Israel to the Jews… so
The Roman Empire was divided into two parts, East and West. Rome, the former capital of the Roman Empire, was located in the West Roman Empire, which came under repeated attacks from nomadic barbarian groups (wandering tribes noted for their brutality). Rome finally fell in 476, and the East Roman Empire survived as the Byzantine Empire. Much of the West Roman Empire was then absorbed into the Byzantine Empire.
Many historians, however, date the beginning of the Byzantine Empire earlier, at A.D. 330, when Roman emperor Constantine the Great (306–337) moved the capital of the then-united Roman Empire from Rome to Byzantium (present-day Istanbul, Turkey). Byzantium was subsequently known as Constantinople. By this definition of the empire, Constantine the Great was, therefore, its first ruler. Over the next 1,000 years nearly 100 emperors ruled the Byzantine Empire. At its height, during the reign of Justinian I (483–565) in the sixth century, the empire included parts of southern and eastern Europe and the Middle East (southwest Asia and northern Africa).
The Byzantine Empire ended when the Ottoman Turks conquered Constantinople in 1453.Destroyed it and slaughtered most who would not convert burning everything of the infidels.
It seems that the piggy back ride or marriage of Rome or Byzantine or the left west/east today on the back of Babylon/Assyria?Greece or Islam today is curiously going on under everyones noses.
It would appear that it is all mixed together, or trying to be mixed together as these below are too today…..but are no different with the sexual perversions and slaughter of the unborns by the multi-millions.
Only the names have changed.
“Queen of Heaven with the ancient Phoenicians, was Astarte; Greeks, Hera; Romans, Juno; Trivia, Hecate, Diana, the Egyptian Isis, etc., were all so called; but with the Roman Catholics it is the Virgin Mary, Statue of Liberty, Isis…
Judges 2:11 ..13.. And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth.
Judges 10:6 And the children of Israel did evil again in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim, and Ashtaroth, and the gods of Syria, and the gods of Zidon, and the gods of Moab, and the gods of the children of Ammon, and the gods of the Philistines, and forsook the LORD, and served not him.
This discussion is very nice. i am quoting from you
“Mecca is also the city which gave birth to Muhammad (the strongest antichrist ever to appear throughout the last 2000 years) and to his religion of Islam”
Can i ask you to provide a proof that our prophet is an Anti Christ? Just prove only.
I think you are talking to Marie Jean, but I can answer.
one definition of antichrist is to deny that jesus is the son of god.
proof is in quran
Then, we can say that whole human being is anti Christ including yourself. You know why, No one follows his teachings. In Christian there are 10 commandments. Tell me which Christian follows these commands. I have Christian Friends in Ethiopia and they are against the Bible’s teachings.
I am not antichrist…..
I obey the bible and accept Jesus for who he is
and I submit to God
Hi,
Enclosed is a Bible study of the 7 Bible clues which reveal the identity of the coming antichrist of the Great Tribulation. Hoping for your comments and feedback.
Your eternal friend in Jesus,
Richard
WHAT ARE THE 7 BIBLE CLUES WHICH REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF THE COMING ANTICHRIST??
Revelation 13:17b,18: “The mark of the beast {Or antichrist} is the *NAME* of the Beast or the number of *HIS NAME*. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, *LET HIM* calculate the number of the Beast {Even in AD 96 when Revelation was written}, for it is a man’s number {Or “Number of a MAN”}. *HIS* number is *666*.” God has promised in the above inspired passage that any saint {Even in AD 96–which implies that the name was known in AD 96} with spiritual wisdom and insight may calculate the name of the beast which is a *MAN’S NAME* and adds up to 666.
In Thess 2:3 the Beast of the End-Times is called a “*MAN* of sin or lawlessness” or very SINFUL MAN and therefore the name of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S* name which is also confirmed in Rev 13:17b,18 above. Therefore, the NAME of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a sinful *MAN’S NAME* and could not be the name of a woman or a city, country, computer or Satan, etc.. Rev 13:16,17: “He {The False Prophet} forced everyone… to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead. No one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {Nero Caesar??} or the number of his name {666}.
Actually there are 7 BIBLE CLUES that show who the antichrist of the future 1260-day Tribulation will be. By an amazing coincidence all 7 Bible clues can be applied to Nero Caesar!!
{1} The anti-christ will be a “MAN OF SIN” or very sinful MAN as per 2 Thess 2:3 above.
{2} The number of this sinful man’s name is 666 as per Rev 13:16-18. The Bible was written by 40 divinely inspired Hebrews in Hebrew and Greek; so then it is highly probable that this man’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew or Greek. Nero Caesar’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew which we will show later in this Bible study.
{3} This sinful man whose name adds up to 666 died BEFORE AD 96 when Revelation was written.{See Rev 17:8 below} We will show later why Revelation was written between Sept AD 95 and Sept AD 96. Nero Caesar lived from December 15th, AD 37 to June 9th AD 68.
{4} This sinful man who was alive and then died before AD 96 was FATALLY WOUNDED by a sword wound to his head. Nero Caesar committed suicide with a sword wound to his head on June 9th, AD 68. {See Rev 13:3 and Rev 13:14 below}
{5} This very sinful man who died before AD 96 was a KING in the Roman Empire as per Daniel 7:24. There were 11 Roman Kings or Caesars who died before AD 96 including the 6th Roman Caesar who killed Paul and Peter in AD 66; and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew. Domitian Caesar was the 12th Caesar who was alive when Revelation was written in AD 96.
{6} The beast is also called an 8th KING who ruled before AD 96 as one of 7 KINGS crowned by the city on 7 hills. {Rev 17:9-11} The identity of these 8 KINGS will be discussed later in this article.
{7} This very sinful ROMAN KING whose name adds up to 666 and who was fatally wounded by a sword before AD 96, will “COME UP FROM THE *ABYSS* or hell as per Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8. We know that the ABYSS is HELL by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31. We can be sure that Nero Caesar is now in the Abyss or Hell since he killed Paul and Peter and thousands of Christians and sent Vespasian {the father of Titus and Domitian Caesar} to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. The MAN OF SIN or Nero also killed his own mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach.
Revelation 17:8: The beast, which you saw, once was {alive}, Now {in AD 96} is not {alive} and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book life.. .. will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was {Before AD 96}, now {In AD 96} is not {Alive} and yet will come. Rev 13:14: He {The False Prophet} will order the inhabitants of the earth to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived.” Rev 13:3: One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound. but the fatal wound had been HEALED!! The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.
When I was a missionary in Israel I studied the Hebrew language. One of the first things that you learn when you study the OT Ancient Hebrew language {Which is also the language of Israel today!} is that the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet ALSO represent 22 numbers! When you read Psalm 119 you will note that the 176 sentences are divided into 22 sections; each section with 8 sentences or verses praising the Word of God. These 22 sections are each headed by one of the letters in the Hebrew alphabet in the exact same order as shown below. The ancient Hebrew language {Which is exactly the same as the modern Hebrew language} frequently used the letters of their alphabet to designate NUMBERS IN THE OT as follows:
ALEPH=1. BETH=2. GIMEL=3. DALET=4. HE=5. VAV=6. ZAYIN=7. CHETH=8. TETH=9. YODH=10. KAPH=20. LAMED=30. MEM=40. NUN=50. SAMEKH=60. AYIN=70. PE=80. TSADHE=90. KOPH=100. RESH=200. SHIN=300. TAV=400.
NOTE: Most vowel sounds excpt “O” {VAV} are not used as letters in Hebrew. These vowel sounds are designated by dots and dashes under their *PRECEDING* consonants. In Hebrew “N” is added on the end of all foreign names ending in “O”. Therefore, the foreign name of Nero would be “NERON” in Hebrew. The name Nero Caesar would be pronounced Neron Kaysar in Hebrew. The “E” in Neron and the 2 “A” sounds in Kaysar {There is no “C” in Hebrew} are designated by dots and dashes under their preceding consonants and therefore are not letters in the 22 letter Hebrew alphabet, and so have no numerical value. Neron in Hebrew would use 4 letters with numerical value: N-R-O-N and Kaysar in Hebrew would use 3 letters with numerical value: K-S-R. There would be a dot under the first N to show the “E” sound in NEron There would also be 2 dots under the “K” to show the “AY” sound in KAYsar and a dash under the “S” to show the “AH” sound in KaySAHr.
The 4 letters with numerical value in NERON would be {SEE TABLE ABOVE} N = 50; R = RESH = 200; O = VAV = 6; and N = NUN = 50 and 50+20+6+50 equals 306. The 3 letters with numerical value in “KAYSAR woyld be K = KOPH = 100; S = SAMEKH = 60; and R = RESH =200 and 100+60+200 equals 360. And so the numerical value of Nero in Hebrew is 306 and the numerical value of Caesar in Hebrew is 360, and therefore the numerical value of Nero Caesar is 306+360 or exactly *666*!
There is a very interesting footnote in the revised Standard Version concerning the number 666 which states that some ancient manuscripts have the number **616** which *DOUBLY* confirms that Nero Caesar may be the Anti-Christ!! You will note that the Hebrew language adds an “N” to all foreign names eding in “O”. Now “N” or “NUN” in Hebrew has a numerical value of **50**!! and so if you decided not to add the last “N” in NERON then Nero Caesar would add up to exactly **616** in Hebrew. I think you will admit that this is an absolutely amazing coincidence!!
Any honest Hebrew language scholar will confirm that the letters of Nero Caesar’s name add up to 666 in the hebrew language whose 22 letters are also 22 numbers as shown above. Since all of the prophecies concerning the Antichriist are written in OT Hebrew {Like Daniel 7:8-25} or NT Koine Greek it would then seem logical that God would use one of these 2 Bible languages to identify the Name of the Beast whose letters add up to 666. One of the problems of doing this in NT Koine Greek is that the letters of their alphabet are not also numbers. And therefore you can only assign a numerical value of 22 to the 22nd letter, etc.. Using this formula you could not get any name to add up to over 250, let alone 666. You have the same problem with English and all other languages other than the Hebrew language!
NOTE: The 3 different Greek words used in Revelation 13:18b to arrive at the number 666 are the 3 different Greek words for 600 and 60 and 6 and not 6 + 6 + 6.
Will the 6th Caesar {Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & the *6th* is NERO who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD *66*} be the Beast who comes up from the Abyss {Or Hell-See Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8} in the coming Great Tribulation??
Rev 1:8,9: “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos beacuse of the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” We know that the island of Patmos was the site of a Roman prison in the first Century and that the Apostle John was suffering in this prison because of his religious beliefs. {As per Rev 1:8,9 above} The island of Patmos is about 30 miles from the port of Ephesus in Western Turkey.
History tells us that the second huge Roman persecution of Christians {The first was NERO’S PERSECUTION OF AD 64-68} occurred in the last year of the reign of Domitian Caesar which would have been from September AD 95 to September AD 96. During the last year of his rule Domitian Caesar decreed that everyone in the Roman Empire must worship idols of former Roman Caesar’s or else they would be killed or put in prison. Historical documents show us that the Apostle John lived to about AD 100 and therefore would have been alive during Domitian’s evil decree of September Ad 95 to September of AD 96. Since we can be sure that the Apostle John would never worship an idol of a Roman Caesar it is then highly probable that John was put in prison on Patmos Isle sometime during Domitian’s evil decree from September AD 95 to September AD 96. Rev 1:10,11: “On the Lord’s Day I {John} was in the spirit and I heard a loud voice {Jesus} said, ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the 7 churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatria, Sardis, Philadelphis and Laodicea.” The last 6 churches are all in Western Turkey within 77 miles of Ephesus. About 50 years earlier Paul had started churches in these 7 cities. Paul always had Jewish converts in the cities where he preached since he had the habit of teaching in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath. It was then highly probable that all 7 of these chuches had Jewish believers who were very familiar with the Hebrew language and of course knew that the 22 letters of the Jewish alphabet are also 22 numbers and also remembered the first Roman persecution by Nero or the “MAN OF SIN” about 30 years earlier when Paul & Peter and thousands of Christians were martyred because of Nero Caesar. Nero also sent Vespasian, the father of Titus and Domitian; to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. He also killed his mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach.
Christian writings in the early 2nd century AD show that many Christians at that time believed that Nero Caesar {Who adds up to 666 in Hebrew} would return as the Anti-Christ of the End-Times. Rev 13:18: “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight {Even in AD 96}, let him {Even in AD 96} calculate the Beast, for it is a man’s number. His {Nero Caesar’s} number is 666!” And so the above Scripture absolutely guarantees that anyone with spiritual wisdom and insight could figure out who the Anti-Christ of the End-Times would be even when Revelation was first given to the churches in AD 96, and that the number of his name adds up to 666. This would of course mean that the future antichrist must have been alive before AD 96 when this Scripture was given to the churches. Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} certainly qualified since he lived from Dec 15th AD 37 to June 9th, AD 68 when he was fatally wounded by his own SWORD.
NOTE: There are many statues of the exact likeness of Nero Caesar including a 151 foot statue in the “Golden House” in Rome. The statue of Liberty {Without pedestal} is also exactly 151 feet high… hmmm. At the beginning of Great Tribulation the False Prophet of 666, Rev 13:14: “Will order the people of the earth to set up a statue in honor of the beast who was wounded {Fatally-Rev 13:3} by the SWORD and yet lived!” {Again} This staue of the Beast will be the “exact likeness” of Nero Caesar and could possibly be seen on World Wide TV so that people of all nations will be able to worship this statue as per Rev 13:15b.
Revelation 17:8b: “Those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life will be astonished when they see the beast {666}, because he once was {Alive–AD 37-68} now in AD 96 is not {Alive}, and yet will come.” {During the Great Tribulation} The Beast once was {Alive before AD 96} now is not {Alive in AD 96}, and will come out of the ABYSS {Or HELL} and go to his destruction.” {On the last Day-See Rev 19:20b}
The fact that the ABYSS is HELL is confirmed by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31: 2 Peter 2:4: “God did not spare the angels when they sinned but sent them into HELL, putting them in gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment.” Luke 8:30b,31: “Many demons {Or Hell’s Angels} had gone into him {A demon-possessed man}. And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them into the ABYSS! {Because they had already been in Hell or the ABYSS before!!} Also in Luke 16:22-24 we read that there was a rich man already in HELL at the time of Jesus. Now we can be absolutely certain that an evil Roman king from the city on 7 hills; who was fatally wounded by a sword *BEFORE* Revelation was written in AD 96; and whose name adds up to 666 is presently in this ABYSS or HELL!!
All historical documents agree that Nero Caesar {The 6th Caesar who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD 66 and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th AD 68. In Revelation 13:14b we learn that the False Prophet of 666 will order the building of a statue of 666 “Who was {FATALLY-See Rev 13:3} wounded by the SWORD and yet lived!” {AGAIN} Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} again qualifies for this inspired clue as to the identity of the antichrist. Nero’s 4-year Roman persecution began when he blamed the Christians for the burning of Rome in AD 64; and ended when Nero was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th, AD 68.
Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 will come from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast or Nero Caesar-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
Revelation 6:7,8: When the Lamb opened the 4th seal, I heard the voice of the 4th living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death {666, who will cause the death of millions} and Hades {The False Prophet who will cause millions to go to Hades by receiving the mark of 666} was following close behind him. THEY {Nero Caesar and the False Prophet} were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. Daniel 7:8,20,24 says that an evil Roman King will conquer 3 of the 10 kingdoms {which will cover one fourth of the earth??}–Russia {Combined with former Soviet Union}, China and India cover one fourth of the earth and have over one fourth of the world’s population! These 3 kingdoms may object and become jealous of 666 and his False Prophet ruling every country in the world.
The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in Rome. 666 and his False prophet will then quickly gain complete control over the radio, tv, internet, newspaper, book and magazine medias.
Revelation 13:4: Men worshipped the dragon {Satan}, and they also worshipped the beast {666 or Nero Caesar} and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?
The next 2 paragraphs are an interesting SPECULATION about what might happen at the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation and who might be the future false propet of 666.
Revelation 6:6: “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages!” This phrase can also be translated “A loaf of bread for a day’s wages.” This event will occur at the coming of the black horse rider {Rev 6:5} which will take place just before or at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Because of the world’s present economic crises the peoples in the 40 poorest counties now have to pay a full day’s wages for a loaf of bread as per Rev 6:6. And if the world experiences a world-wide depression this event could occur in over 100 countries. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. Many countries such as the Phillipines are far worse off than people in the USA during the Great Depression when there was 20 % unemployment. Two years ago there was 8 % unemployment in the Phillipines. One year ago there was 20% unemployment in the Philipines and NOW there is 40 % unemployment!! The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. There are now 70 countries with unemployment rates of over 30 % and this should rapidly increase. And then the world will certainly be looking for an Economic Savior such as 666 and his very deceptive False Prophet. They will be looking for someone who promises CHANGE!! If the Great Tribulation would begin in the near future is there a well-known, powerful world leader that may qualify to be the deceptive False Prophet of 666 who will promise CHANGE you can believe in!! Will this powerful world leader try to bankrupt the USA which will in turn cause a worldwide depression and cause the price of a loaf of bread to cost a full day’s wages???
And so Nero Caesar with the help of the armies of the False Prophet {Obama??} and other nations aligned with him will conquer 1/4 of the world {See Rev 6:8; 13:4b} and then 666 will appoint 10 kings over 10 kingdoms to rule the world who have never before ruled {see Rev 17:12-14} who will then take orders from 666 and his False Prophet from their headquarters in the evil city on 7 HILLS or Rome.{See Rev 17:9}
“Babylon” is called a CITY 7 times in Revelation, chapter 18, and a SEAPORT in Rev 18:17-19. Peter was inspired to call Rome “Babylon” in I Peter 5:13. Rome is a CITY and a SEAPORT built on 7 HILLS! Babylon and Jerusalem are not seaports and are not built on 7 hills!
Rev 13:14-17: The False Prophet deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR} or the number of his name {666}. And God will supply all the needs of His faithful and corageous Tribulation saints just as He miraculously supplied all the needs of the Israelites for 40 years in the wilderness. {See Matt 6:31-34}
Rev 13:5-10: The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time, times and 1/2 a time-See Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b}….. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb…. This call for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints.
Matt 24:9-12…Matt 24:29-31: Jesus says, “Then {During the 42-month Great Tribulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by ALL nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved… Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the **CLOUDS**{See Rev 1:7; Mark 14:62 & I Thess 4:16,17} of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud **TRUMPET**{See Rev 10:7; 11:15-18; I Cor 15:51,52; I Thess 4:16} call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” {Mark 13:27 adds, “From the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.
There will be 2 Comings of Jesus on the same Last Day: The first above was *FOR* His saints and then after the Marraige Feast of the Lamb Jesus will come *WITH* His saints as per Rev 19:6-8; 11,14,19-21: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns, Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the Wedding of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready, fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear…. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True… The armies of Heaven were following Him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean… Then I saw a beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His army {See Rev 17:14 & Jude 14,15}. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs and his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshipped his image. The two of them were thrown ALIVE into the fiery lake of burning sulfur {See 2 Thess 2:8}. The rest of them were killed by the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
WILL THE CITY ON 7 HILLS OR ROME BE THE END-TIME BABYLON?? AND WHO ARE THE 7 KINGS FROM THE CITY BUILT ON 7 HILLS??
Most Bible scholars believe that the book of First Peter was written shortly after the beginning of Nero’s Roman persecution of Christians in AD 64 because of I Peter 4:12,13 & 5:8,9. We know that Peter and his wife were living in Rome at this time. Peter was inspired to write in I Peter 5:13: “She {Peter’s wife} who is in *BABYLON* {Nickname for *ROME*!} sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.” Apparently some Christians including Peter were inspired to call ROME “BABYLON” after Nero’s terrible persecution of Christians starting in AD 64. This is very interesting since the evil city of the End-Times is called “BABYLON” 6 times in Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21. Ancient Babylon Had destroyed God’s Holy Temple and God’s Holy City, Jerusalem; and killed, exiled and persecuted God’s people for 70 years. Actually all encyclopedias agree that Babylon was completely evacuated in 275 BC and completely destroyed by 141 BC. The Wikipedia encyclopedia states, “By 141 BC, when the Parthian Empire took over the region, Babylon was in complete desolation and obscurity.” The only question that remains is: Was Babylon rebuilt so that there could be people living in Babylon around AD 65 when Peter wrote 1 Peter 5:13??? Which leads us to the promises of God in Jeremiah 50:1-3,13: This is the word the Lord spoke through Jeremiah concerning Babylon..”Babylon will be captured… A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land. No one will live in it; both men and animals will flee away!” Jeremiah 52:52:61-64: When you get to Babylon, see that you read all these words aloud. Then say, “O Lord, you have said you will destroy this place, so that neither man nor animal will live in it; IT WILL BE DESOLATE FOREVER When you finish readiing this scroll, tie a stone to it and throw it into the Euphrates. Then say, “So will Babylon SINK TO RISE NO MORE because of the disaster I will bring upon her.” And God ALWAYS keeps His promises.
And God kept His promise for about 2284 years; since ancient Babylon is still a pile of rubble to this very day, and will remain that way until the Last Day of the Planet Earth; for God always keeps His promises. “Babylon” {Nicknamed Rome by Peter} is a “GREAT SEAPORT” in Rev 18:17-19; JUST LIKE ROME and UNLIKE Babylon whose ruins are NOW 4 miles from the very shallow Euphrates River; or Jerusalem which is 2000 to 3000 feet above sea level and 35 miles from the Mediterranean Sea. Babylon is also completely FLAT whereas the End-Time “Babylon” will be a city built on 7 Hills JUST LIKE ROME!!
Rev 17:18: “The woman you saw {Rev 17:3–Who sits with the Beast with 7 heads} is the great *CITY* {Rome–nicknamed Babylon in I Peter 5:13–See Rev 17:5a} that will rule over the kings of the earth.” {During the Great Tribulation} Rev 17:9-11: “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 hills on which the woman {Or city of Rome} sits.” Rome is a city built on 7 HILLS!! They {The 7 Heads} are also 7 KINGS {From the city on 7 hills or Rome}. Five {Of these 7 KINGS} have fallen {Or died before AD 96}, one {the 6th KING} *IS* {Or reigning when Revelation was written in AD 96}, the other {or 7th KING} has not yet come, but when he {The 7th KING} does come, he must remain for for a little while. {Possibly the False Prophet of 666 {Or Black Horse Rider} who will be anointed by Satan just before the coming of the 8th KING {Or Pale Horse Rider} who ruled before as one of the 7 Kings} The beast {Nero Caesar who once was {Alive from Dec 15, AD 37 to June 9, AD 68}, and NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive} is an 8th KING. He belongs to the 7 {KINGS}, because He once was {Alive-AD 37-68} NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive}, and yet will come {1260 days before the Last Day}.”
WHO ARE OR WILL BE THE 8 KINGS OF REV 17:10,11?? ROME APPOINTED THE JEWISH KINGS AFTER THEY CONQUERED ISRAEL IN 63 BC AND THE 7 KINGS OF REV 13:1B all had “blasphemous names” so we can assume that they were evil kings who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers. And so the first 3 EVIL KINGS {Who are all called KINGS in God’s Word{See Matt 2:1; Mark 6:25,26 & Acts 12:1} were all Israeli KINGS who killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers} and who were appointed by the evil city on 7 hills or Rome:
AND SO THE 8 KINGS WERE OR WILL BE:
** {#1} ** Herod the Great who tried to kill the baby Jesus: Rev 12:3-5: “Another sign appeared in Heaven : An enormous red DRAGON {Or Satan-See Rev 12:9} with 7 heads {Or 7 KINGS-See Rev 17:10a}… and 7 crowns on his {7} heads {Satan crowns the 7 kings whereas 666 crowns the 10 horns}. The DRAGON {Or Satan} stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her Child the moment he was born {Thru his first evil king or Herod the Great as per Matt 2:13b,16!!} She gave birth to a Son {Jesus} a male Child, who will rule the nations with an iron scepter!!”
**{#2}** Herod Antipas who killed John the Baptist and ridiculed and tortured Jesus {See Matt 14:1-12; Luke 23:7-11}
**{#3}** Herod Antipas who killed the Apostle James and tried to kill Peter. {See Acts 12:1-5,19-23} **{#4}** Nero Caesar who will come again as the 8th KING who will be the anti-christ of the End-Times.
**{#5}** Titus Caesar who killed thousands of Christians when he destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. Titus is also mentioned as a “Prince” in Daniel 9:26. Titus Caesar was the oldest son of Vespasian Caesar who was Caesar from Dec AD 69 to AD 79; and therefore heir and Crown *PRINCE* to the throne in Rome and was Caesar from AD 79 to AD 81.
**{#6**}** Domitian Caesar the 6th KING {“NOW IS”} was ruling in AD 96, and decreed in the last year of his reign {Sept AD 95 to Sept AD 96} that everyone must worship former Roman Caesars {Like Nero} or be killed and put in prison. {Like the Apostle John who was living in Ephesus at that time.}
**{#7}** Possibly the False Prophet of 666 who will be crowned the 7th evil King of Rome by Satan shortly before the coming of the:
**{8th}** KING or Nero Caesar {The End-Time Beast or Anti-Christ}; who ruled before as one of the **7 KINGS** The 4TH & 8TH KING will come up up from the Abyss or Hell exactly 1260 days before the last Day to rule from the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
Rev 17:6: “The woman {ROME} will be drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bear testimony to Jesus.” While in in Rev 13:7 we learn that the Anti-Christ will be given “power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.” And in Rev 13:15b we read that 666 will “cause all who refuse to worship his statue to be killed.” We must therefore conclude that the evil city “on 7 hills” or Rome will be the HEADQUARTERS of 666 during the Great Tribulation.
The Anti-Christ will very quickly conquer 1/4th of the world with many miracles {See Rev 6:8; 13:4} and will then appoint 10 Kings who have never before ruled over the 10 most powerful nations of the world {See Rev 17:12-14,17}. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every country in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the city built on 7 hills or Rome.
Hi Richard,’
You uphold the popular “ROME” view of the Antichrist and the beast. According to Daniel, the beast is a kingdom. The man of sin is part of that kingdom. So when his (the beast’s) number is 666, it is referring to the number that represents a kingdom, but also a man who represents that kingdom.
Take a look at these links, and let me know what you think.
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
I am a Muslim, i can prepare a Christian Web site and use the number 666 on the web site . Does this mean Bible is 666?
Can you verify really this web site belongs to a real Muslim community?
Those who lose the peaceful fight, they use such methods to get hatred between Muslims and Christians. You have to know that we don’t have Nuclear weapon to propagate Islam. We do it peacefully with logic and proof.
This video is intended to buy a fight between Christians and Muslims and destroy themselves.
Who ever is after this, will declare his throne over the Muslims and Christians after the fight.
I believe that this video is not from the Christian society. It must be from other than a Christian society who wants to destroy Islam and Christianity by letting them fight each other and then declare a throne over us after our fight is over.
One Day, Muslims and Christian will unite and destroy this enemy from its root. It may be when Mehdi comes. It is a true prophecy.
no I cannot prove the site is Muslim…..they claimed it was.
As I said, i can have a Christian website with the number 666.
As a Christian, can you believe what the web site claims.? I don’t think so. But me as a Muslim, i will seek the truth from the right sources. Believe me this website belongs to either Jew or Christian.
You have to know one thing that in Islam, we don’t believe in translating words into number and say foolish things. I do not believe in the number 666 or 786, etc. But I do believe that there is a satan by name not by number. There is Allah by name not by number.
Nobody has a right to change or translate somebody’s name except for the owner of the name himself. What will be the legal action against changing somebody’s name and using it everywhere including the media?
I am amazed to hear the word Jesus.
What is his real name? Yeshua, Eesa.
My name is Ali. Ali means something going up or you can say rising.
If i go to America, are they going to call me rising? NO.
Who ever is telling you to call Jesus by the name Jesus is misguiding you to know his real name. You should find his real name and call him by that real name.
DOES THE BIBLE GIVE US CLUES FOR THE EXACT DATES IN THE
CHRONOLOGY OF JESUS CHRIST??
All encyclopedias state that Augustus Caesar died in August AD 14 and therefore the 15th year of the reign of his successor, Tiberius Caesar, would have been from August of AD 28 to August of AD 29. Luke 3:1,2: “In the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar… the Word of God came to John son of Zechariah in the desert.” Now we know from Luke 3:1-3 above that John the Baptist began his ministry in the 15th year of Tiberius which most likely began on his 30th birthday according to OT Law {As per I Chron 23:3}. And we know from Luke 1:35-37 that John was 5 to 6 months older than Jesus. Luke 3:23: “Now Jesus Himself was as thirty years old when He began His ministry.” So if Jesus began His ministry on His 30th human birthday {As per OT Law} on or about December 2nd, AD 29 then John would have began his ministry 5 to 6 months earlier About June 2nd to July 2nd, AD 29 which would been in the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar since the 15th year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar was completed in August of AD 29. We will show later that the 30th birthday of Jesus was about December 2nd AD 29 and that He was baptized or Anointed 40 days earlier on October 23rd, AD 29. And that the Resurrection Day of our Lord Jesus was exactly 1260 days after His Anointing on Oct 23, AD 29 which would have been on April 5th, AD 33.
Numbers 28:16: “On the 14th day of the 1st month the Lord’s Passover is to be held.” Exodus 12:6,7,12,13: “Take care of them {The Passover Lambs} until the 14th day of the month when all the people of Israel must slaughter them at Twilight {Just after sundown}. Then they are to take some of the blood and put it on the doorframes of their houses. On that same night I will strike down the firstborn of the Egyptians… but when I see the blood I will PASS OVER you.” Deut 16:1: “Observe the month of ABIB and celebrate the PASS OVER of the Lord your God, because in the month of ABIB He brought you out of Egypt by night.” Luke 22:7,8: Then came the day of Unleavened Bread on which the Passover Lamb “Had” to be sacrificed. Jesus said, “Go and make preparations for us to eat the Passover.” Christ became our Passover Lamb on Passover Day! 1 Cor 5:7: “For Christ our PASSOVER LAMB has been sacrificed.”
Whereas the Jews {who were following the evil Babylonian moon calendar held their Passover on the 15th of Nisan which always occurs on the night of a full moon} observed the Passover on the wrong day as per John 18:28: “Then the Jews led Jesus from Caiaphas to the palace of the Roman Governor {Pilate}. By now it was early morning, and to avoid ceremonial uncleanness the Jews did not enter the palace; for they wanted to be able to eat the PASSOVER!!” Which would have been the day “AFTER” Jesus correctly held the Passover on the 14th of ABIB which God has commanded.
So we can assume that the month of ABIB is different from the Babylonian moon month of Nisan and therefore has nothing to do with the moon. So then when does the first month of the Bible Year called ABIB begin?? Some have speculated that it may begin of the first day of Spring which comes every March 21st. If you go to the Internet under {www.timeanddate.com/calendar} you will be able to find the calendar for the month of April AD 33 {Backspace and remove AD 2008 and type in AD 33}. You will observe that April 2nd, AD 33 was on a Thursday and that April 5th, AD 33 was on a Sunday. So it is quite possible that Jesus held the Passover right after Sundown on April 2nd, AD 33; was crucified on Friday, April 3rd, AD 33; and then was raised to life on Sunday, April 5th, AD 33. Then the 14th day of the first Bible month of ABIB or PASSOVER DAY would have began would have began on the 14th day after March 21st AD 33 {The first day of Spring}. This absolutely confirmed by the fact that there was a full moon {The 15th of Nisan} on April 3rd AD 33 {As per full moon footnote on calendar for April AD 33 proven by the exact science of Astronomy} which would have been the day AFTER Jesus correctly held the PASSOVER on the 14th of ABIB or at twilight on Thursday, April 2nd, AD 33. If the first day of ABIB was from sundown, March 20th, AD 33 to sundown March 21st, AD 33 then the 14th day of ABIB or Passover Day would have been from sundown, April 2nd, AD 33 to sundown, April 3rd, AD 33. And so our Lord’s Resurrection Day is always on the 16th of Abib; which is always on April 5th each and every year!!
***WILL THE REIGN OF 666 AND THE GREAT TRIBULATION LAST EXACTLY 1260 DAYS??
By comparing Revelation 12:6b and Revelation 12:14b we find that 1260 Days and Time {360 Days} Times {720 Days} and ½ a Time {180 Days} are the exact same period of time. Likewise, when we compare Revelation 13:5b with Daniel 7:25b we learn that 42 {30-day Bible} MONTHS and Time {12 Months}, Times {24 Months} and ½ a Time {6 Months} are also the exact same period of time. And therefore 42 {30-Day Bible Months} and Time, Times and ½ a Time are the exact same period of time since 42 X 30 days equal exactly 1260 days.
12 Months = 360 Days = {1 Time}
24 Months = 720 Days = {2 Times}
6 Months = 180 Days = {Half a Time} And therefore:
42 Months = 1260 Days = {3 and a Half Times}
Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 will come from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” {Which is also 42 {30-day} MONTHS or 1260 DAYS–*NOT* 7 years} “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completely destroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
Revelation 13:5,7a: “The Beast {Who was a *KING* from the “City on 7 hills”—Or *ROME*–See Rev 17:9-11,18} will utter proud words and blasphemies and will exercise his authority for *42 MONTHS* {Which is also 1260 days or Time, Times and ½ a Time–*NOT* 7 years}. *42* Jewish/Babylonian moon months have always been only 1239 days since 29.5 days X 42 months = 1239 days. {A new moon comes every 29 ½ days}
And then in Daniel 12:1,2,6b,7b we learn that the resurrection of the saved and the lost will occur at the “END” of the Great Tribulation that will last for Time, Times and ½ a Time which is also 42 MONTHS or 1260 DAYS–*NOT* 7 years.
FOR EXAMPLE: If the 1260-day or 42-month Great Tribulation begins on June 6th, AD 2009 it must then end exactly 1260 days later or on November 17th, AD 2012 which would be the LAST DAY or RESURRECTION DAY or DAY OF THE LORD. Luke 21:23b,24: Jesus says, “There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the TIMES {42 or 6X6+6 months} of the Gentiles are fulfilled.” INTERESTING SPECULATION: Will 666 begin his 42 {6×6+6} month rule exactly 42 {6X6+6} years after the Jews encirled and then captured Jerusalem on 6/6/67 which would be on 6/6/2009. The invasion of Normandy occurred on 6/6/1944 and the first day of the 66th year will also occur 65 years later on 6/6/2009 where it will be celebrated on a Normandy SHORE by Barack Hussein Obama. Revelation 13:1: “And the dragon {Satan} stood on the SHORE of the sea. And I saw a beast {666} coming out of the sea.”
Daniel 12:1B,2,6B,7B:“There will be a time of distress such as not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—EVERYONE whose name is found written in the Book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake; some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt… It will be for a Time, Times and ½ a Time {Or 1260 days or 42 Months}. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken *ALL THESE THINGS {The 1260-day Great Tribulation immediately followed by the resurrection of the saved and lost} WILL BE *COMPLETED*!!”
Isaiah 46:10a,11b: God says, “I make known the *END* from the beginning, from ancient times what is still to come… What I have said, that will I bring about, what I have planned that will I do!”
NOTE: The prophecies and time periods found in Daniel 8:1-27 {1150 days or 2300 morning & evening sacrifices} & Daniel 10:11 to 11:45 & Daniel 12:11,12 {1290 & 1335 Days} were all completely fulfilled during the evil reign of Antiochus Epiphanes IV from 172 BC to 164 BC {See Macabees 1:10,44-64; 4:52,53} and have absolutely nothing to do with the time periods and prophecies of the 1260-Day Great Tribulation. Daniel 12:1-10 was an End-Time Prophecy parenthesis { } which did not include Daniel 11:45 nor Daniel 12:11,12. Almost all of the prophecies in the OT are a parenthesis { } in a text which had nothing to do with the prophecy.
Now there are some who suggest that the antichrist will exercise his authority for 7 years {Not 42 Months} and that the Great Tribulation will last 7 years {Not 1260 Days or 3 ½ Times}. They have only **ONE** Bible verse {Daniel 9:27—which they grossly misinterpret} to support this idea which absolutely contradicts God’s Divine Time Periods as found in Rev 13:5b, Dan 7:25b & Dan 12:7b.
NOTE: According to Leviticus 25:8 a Sabbath ‘week’ is *7 YEARS and 7 times 7 YEARS or ‘weeks’ is a Jubilee or 49 years.
I believe that the first half of Daniel’s 70th Week has already been completed since Jesus has already put an end to all meaningful sacrifices and offerings and made a New Covenant with many until the *MIDDLE* of the 70th WEEK when He was cut off but not for Himself {See Dan 9:26a & 9:27b}. Hebrews 10:8-10: When Christ came into the world, He said: “Sacrifice and offering You did not desire… Christ set aside the first {Covenant} to establish the second…we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.” Hebrews 9:15: “Christ is the Mediator of a NEW COVENANT.” Those who wrongly believe in a 7-year Great Tribulation believe the “HE” who confirmed a Covenant with many and put an End to sacrifice and offering in Daniel 9:27a is the Anti-Christ of the End-Times and not Jesus.
Daniel 9:27: “He {Jesus not 666} will confirm a Covenant with many for one 7. In the Middle of the 7 {Or after 3 & ½ Times or 1260 days from Oct 23rd, AD 29} He {Jesus} will put an End to sacrifice and offering {Or on April 3-5 , AD 33}. {And then after a long pause} And on a wing of the temple he {The Anti-Christ} will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed {See Rev 19:20 & 2 Thess 2:8b} is poured out on him {Which will occur on the Last Day of the 1260-day Great Tribulation at the 2nd Coming of the Anointed One} Note: Since we know that the last half of the last 7 is exactly 1260 days then the first half of the Last 7 must also be 1260 days or Oct 23rd, AD 29 to April 5th, AD 33.
NOTE: When you go from BC to AD you must deduct 1 year since there was NO year Zero. For example: Oct 23rd, 1 BC to Oct 23rd AD 1 was just 1 YEAR and not 2 years. Therefore, Oct 23rd, 455 BC to Oct 23rd, AD 29 would be exactly 483 years or 69 7’s since 455+29 = 484 minus 1 equals exactly 483 years or 69 7’s or WEEKS.
Daniel 9:24: “70 7’s are decreed to *ANOINT THE MOST HOLY* {After 69 7’s or 483 years—The Anointed One then began teaching the New Covenant} *TO ATONE FOR WICKEDNESS* {Exactly 3 ½ Times or 1260 Days after His Anointing in the *MIDDLE* of the Last 7; the Anointed One put an end to all sacrifices for sin—See Dan 9:27a} *TO PUT AN END TO SIN AND BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS*.” {EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS will occur on the Last Day of the 70 7’s exactly 3 ½ Times or 1260 Days after the Abomination of Desolation comes up from the Abyss—See Dan 9:27}
NOTE: About 280 years earlier God made this amazing prophecy in Isaiah 44:28: The Lord… says of *CYRUS*, “He is my shepherd and will accomplish all that I please; he will say of JERUSALEM LET IT BE REBUILT!” This verse absolutely contradicts the Artaxerxes theory!
Daniel 9:25,27: “From the issuing of the Decree {By Cyrus on October 23rd, 455 BC—See Isaiah 44:28 above} to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the ANOINTED ONE, the RULER, comes {Jesus was Anointed on Oct 23rd , AD 29} THERE WILL BE 7 7’S AND 62 7’S {Or 69 7’s or 483 years}… *HE* {The ANOINTED RULER} will confirm a Covenant with many for one 7 {This Covenant will not End until the Last Day of the Last 7 when the ANOINTED RULER, Jesus Christ, comes again}. In the MIDDLE of the 70th 7 {On April 3-5, AD 33 exactly 1260 days after His Anointing} *HE* {The ANOINTED RULER} will put an end to all {Meaningful} sacrifices and offerings {By His Atonement for sin}. {And then after a long pause the Last Half of the 70th Week will begin when}… “The Abomination of Desolation will come {Up from the Abyss or Hell-See Rev 11:7 & 17:8b} until the decreed end is poured out on him.” {By the Anointed Ruler {Jesus} exactly 1260 days later on the Last Day—See Rev 19:20; Dan 9:27b; 2 Thess 2:8b}
And so the “FIRST HALF” of the 70th Week began at the Anointing of Jesus on Oct 23rd, AD 29; and ended 1260 days later in the “Middle of the 70th Week” on April 5th, AD 33 at the Resurrection of Jesus; when He completed our Atonement for sin by “Tasting Death” {See Heb 2:9b} for all who will be saved; and when He eliminated all other meaningful sacrifices and offerings for sin.
Have you ever wondered why God selected the time period of 1260 Days for the Great Tribulation immediately before the 2nd Coming of Jesus and our resurrection?? It may very well be because Jesus went through 1260 days of Great Tribulation beginning with His 40 days of fasting and ending with His resurrection!! I Pet 2:21: “Christ suffered for you, leaving you an example, that you should follow in His steps.”
As we have shown before Jesus became our High Priest and began His ministry on His 30th earthly birthday on December 2nd AD 29 {See Luke 3:23} as per OT Law {See I Chron 23:3} which was exactly 40 days after His Anointing or Baptism {See Luke 4:2 and Matt 4:2} on October 23rd, AD 29; which was exactly 1260 days before His resurrection on April 5th, {The 16th of ABIB} AD 33. And so the 30th birthday of Jesus was 40 days after October 23rd, AD 29 on or about December 2nd, AD 29.
Jesus was 30 years old when he began his ministry {as per OT law} on his 30th birthday or on December 2nd, AD 29. Which would mean that Jesus would have been born on December 2nd, 2 BC since you must deduct 1 year going from BC to AD since there was no year Zero. {Dec 2nd 1 BC to Dec 2nd AD 1 was just 1 year and not 2 years} If Jesus was born on December 2nd, 2 BC then He would have been circumcised on the 8th day or on December 10th, 2 BC and his parents would have taken him to God’s temple to offer a sacrifice 33 days later as per OT law {See Lev 12:3,4,6-8} which would have been on January 12th, 1 BC. The events that occurred when Joseph, Mary and Jesus went to God’s temple to offer a sacrifice are recorded in Luke 2:21-38. Joseph could have been warned by an angel that Herod the Great would try to kill Jesus as early as the evening of Jan 12th, 1 BC {See Matt 2:13-15} and Herod’s decree to kill all the children in the Bethlehem {See Matt 2:16} area could have occurred as early as Jan 13th, 1 BC.
Now according to the exact science of astronomy there were 2 eclipses of the moon in this approximate time period on March 13th, 4 BC and on JANUARY 9th, 1 BC. Now according to the complete Works of Josephus, pages 363-365 we learn that Herod had erected a large golden eagle above the temple entrance which was against God’s law. Mathias and 40 Jews tore down this golden eagle and destroyed it; and they were captured and burned to the stake by order of Herod; and that night there was an eclipse of the moon. {On January 9th 1 BC} Herod could have then ordered the death of all of the children 2 years old or younger on or about Jan 13th, 1 BC. Herod then became deathly sick because of his terrible sins, and went to his winter home in Jericho where he ordered that all the principal men of the Jewish nation should be burned alive. Herod also ordered the death of his own son Antipater who was to succeed him; and on the 5th day after the execution of his son; Herod the Great died. And so Herod the Great {Who tried to kill Jesus} would have died at least 10 days after January 9th, 1 BC when there was an eclipse of the moon in the Jerusalem area. Herod the Great would then have died on January 19th, 1 BC or shortly thereafter according to the historical account of Josephus, and therefore Jesus could have been born about December 2nd, 2 BC. The March 13th, 4 BC eclipse of the moon doesn’t work since then Jesus would have been 33 years old when he began his ministry which would contradict God’s Word in Luke 3:23: “Now Jesus Himself was as 30 years old {His human age} when He began His ministry.”
On the Last Day of the 70th Week {Which is also the Last Day of the 1260-day Great Tribulation at the 7th & Last Trumpet} Jesus will give the saints of all ages their new heavenly bodies and they will then enjoy the marriage Feast of the Lamb. Immediately after the Marriage Feast of the Lamb {On the same Last Day of the Lord} Jesus will mount a great White Horse and His saints of all ages will follow Him on white horses. {See Rev 19:7,8,11-14; 17:14} They will conquer the Beast {666} and his armies, and the Beast {Nero Caesar or 666} will then be thrown back into the Abyss or Hell for all eternity. {See Rev 19:20; Dan 9:27b; 2 Thess 2:8b}Revelation 3:3: Jesus said, “REMEMBER WHAT YOU HAVE RECEIVED; OBEY IT AND REPENT. BUT **IF** YOU DO NOT WAKE UP, I WILL COME LIKE A THIEF, AND YOU WILL NOT KNOW AT *WHAT TIME* I WILL COME TO YOU.”
Wasn’t Jesus a Post-Trib Prophet when he never even mentioned the supposedly very important pre-trib, rapture, fairy tale in Matt 24:3-31 or Rev 5 to 19!! Rev 22:16: “I Jesus, have sent My angel to give *YOU*{The Greek for *YOU* is plural and therefore includes*ALL SAINTS*} this testimony {ALL OF REVELATION} *FOR THE CHURCHES*!” QUESTION: Will every saint present during the Great Tribulation have his name written in the LAMB’S BOOK OF LIFE and therefore be a member of the CHURCH of Jesus Christ?? ANSWER: Revelation 13:8: “All inhabitants of the earth will worship the Beast {Anti-Christ}…. ALL whose names have not been written in the LAMB’S BOOK OF LIFE!”
The ONLY TIME that Paul mentions the Anti-Christ of Man of Lawlessness {Who will rule the world from Rome during the 1260-Day Tribulation} is in 2 Thess 2:3-9. 2 Thess 2:9: “The coming of the Lawless One will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders.” 2 Thess 1:1; 2:1,3,8: “To the *CHURCH* of the Thessalonians… Concerning the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ and *OUR* being gathered to Him… Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for *THAT DAY* will not come *UNTIL* the Man of Lawlessness is revealed!!, the Man doomed to destruction… Then the Lawless One will be revealed whom the Lord Jesus Christ will destroy with the splendor of His *COMING*!” And so Paul absolutely confirms the *COMING* of the Lord Jesus will come on the *LAST DAY* of the Great 1260-day Great Tribulation when His *CHURCH saints will be gathered to Him! And Mark 13:11b absolutely contradicts the idea {From a wrong interpretation of 2 Thess 2:7} that the Holy Spirit will not be in the Tribulation saints. 2 Thess 2:6 paraphrased with obvious additions: “The reason that the Coming of the Man of Lawlessness is being held back: is that he may be revealed at the PROPER TIME.” Which would be exactly 1260 days before the *COMING* of our Lord Jesus Christ on the *LAST DAY!
Some End-Time Groups who wrongly interpret Daniel 9:27a, and who believe in a 7-year Tribulation, {Starting with a New Jewish Temple} are now spreading false rumors that religious Jews are planning to tear down the Muslim Dome of the Rock in order to rebuild a Jewish Temple to Biblical specifications and will then re-establish OT animal sacrifices??? However there are several big problems with this scenario:
** All 21 Arab Muslim nations including Pakistan which has many nuclear bombs would then immediately declare an all-out Holy War on Israel, and the Israeli government fully understands this. I know this for I was a missionary in Israel.
** A Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications would then take at least 7 years to build during this continuous war with the 21 Muslim nations. And most of these same End-Time Groups also teach that a pre-trib rapture could occur TODAY {Not at least 7 years from today} Now all those who believe in a 7-year Tribulation only because of the wrong interpretation of Daniel 9:27a also believe that immediately following this pre-trib rapture of the Church saints that the Anti-Christ will make a Covenant with Israel; allowing the Jews to make animal sacrifices in a Jewish Temple built to Biblical specifications. By wrongly interpreting Daniel 9:27a thay believe that at the end of 3 1/2 years in the middle of the 70th week the Anti-Christ will then put an end to all animal sacrifices. These same problems would also apply to mid-trib and pre-wrath rapturists who also believe in this same 7-Year End-Time scenario and who also believe illogically according to their beliefs that this 7-year Tribulation could then begin TODAY.
**** Most importantly: For over 1,000 years religious Jews have believed that when their Messiah comes He will bring with him the New Jewish Temple and the required Ark of the Covenant. And then the Messiah will re-establish the Levitical priesthood; who will then offer animal sacrifices according to OT Law. For according to OT Law {See Numbers 3:5-10} all Jewish Priests must prove that they are direct descendants of Levi and these Levitical genealogies were completely destroyed when the last Jewish Temple was destroyed in AD 70. Therefore, no Scriptural OT animal sacrifices could possibly occur before then; since no Jew can now prove that he is a Levite!! And so if you are waiting for this Jewish Temple to be built to Biblical specifications by Jews you are going to have to wait until this bogus Jewish messiah comes. Please do not hold your breath until this time!!
NOTE: A BIBLE MONTH IS *ALWAYS* 30 DAYS:
Revelation 13:5 reveals that the beast or 666 will rule for 42 {30-day} months which is also exactly 1260 days. The only other text where the Bible specifies the number of days in a month is Genesis 7:11 & Genesis 8:3,4: Where the 17th day of the 2nd Bible Month {Gen 7:11} to the 17th day of the 7th Bible Month {Gen 8:4} is EXACTLY 150 days which would be exactly five 30-day months {Gen 8:3 & Gen 7:34}. All Bible Years are 12 consecutive 30-day months followed by 5 or 6 days. Pagan Babylonian Moon Months sinfully adopted by Israel during the Babylonian captivity have alternating 29 and 30-day months since there is a New Moon every 29½ days If God was using Babylonian Moon Months in the above passage he would have said that 5 Bible Months were 147 or 148 days and not EXACTLY 150 days!!
If you check your concordance
Richard, your arguments in the emmidiate above post, are terribly flawed. I am a missionary/author,and in ministry over 45 years,and can speak with authority on many of these issues. Your post previous to the above post, is also “full of holes”, and since your posts are so lengthy, I do not intend to refute all of it, as I do not have the time for that.
But rather, let me point out a couple of errors in the above post, (which should be enough to prove my point to you.)
You very “adamantly” assert that Jesus began his ministry in ’29 A.D.’ and that He was crucified on a ‘Friday’ 33 A.D., and that “Tiberius’s 15th year” was 28-29 A.D. ( All of which is incorrect, for the following reasons )
If you do a little more ‘historical’ research, you will discover that even though “Tiberius” became “sole ruler” in A.D.14, he ‘co-ruled’ with “Augustus” before that, begining in 12 A.D.
So according to Lk.3:31, the 15th year of “Tiberius”, was 12 A.D. + 15. which equals A.D. 27, and not A.D.29 as you suggested.
Next, acording to Jn.12:1, Jesus made an 18 mile journey from ‘Ephraim’ to ‘Bethany’, “six days before the Passover”. If the passover was on a Friday,(as you assert) then six days before would have been on the previous “Sabbath”, which was an ‘impossibilty’ as a Sabbath’s day journey was just less than two miles, and Christ was “to keep the Law perfectly” to every ‘jot and tittle’.
Next, Christ prophesied that as Jonah was “three days and three nights”
in the belly of the fish, so like wise he would be in the “heart of the Earth, three days and three nights . Which makes it clear, that Christ had to be crucified on a ‘Wednesday’, and not a Friday.
Mt. 28:1 in the ‘Greek text’ renders the word ‘Sabbaths’ (in the plural) indicating that there were “two Sabbaths” that week, and indded there was, as the “feast of unleavened bread” commenced on the 15th of Abib, as the “passover” was coming to a close, and was called a ‘High Sabbath’, (Lev.23 and Jn.19)
If you look up Jewish “high dates”, you will dicover that between
A.D. 26 and A.d 34, only two “passovers” fell on a ‘Wednesday’, and that was A.D. 28, and A.D. 31. Since we have evidence that Christ was born on “Yom Kippur” (feast of Atonement, and our Sept/Oct.) 4 B.C., and we have evidence that Herod died in B.C. 1 ,( and not B.C. 4 as erroneously propagated by certain disinformation circles) the whole “puzle” comes together without conflict, when the all the “biblical and historic time-lines” are correctly understood. Click on my name below and visit my website.
Morgan Sorensen
Why contemplate on what is going to happen?
And not think about what has happened?
Osama Bin Laden is dead, he deserved to die
Saddam Hussein is dead, he deserved to die
But guess what?
We had this discussion before, and I told you to remove the word Islam
This is a Shia belief, and shia are considered as Non-Muslims by Muslims
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Hello Afsar,
This is a summary of all beliefs about the Antichrist, so the Shia view has to be included.
Shia are considered nonmuslims by Sunni, but both are Muslims
The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9: And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10: And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12: And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13: These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
We have had a period in recent history, from 2001 to 2004, when there were six living presidents, five of whom had fallen from office, and the sixth was then – and still IS now – our acting president, President George W. Bush. If he is the one that is, then we are talking up-to-the-minute current events here, and the person who is elected president in 2008 will be number seven, the one who will preside for a little while.
Who will take the office of president when something happens to number 7? None other than the one Revelation identifies as the Beast, himself!
Clue, Part Three: “The beast, who once was (president),
and now is not, is an EIGHTH KING- GEORGE BUSH
(he resumes the office of president once again!).
He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.” Rev. 17:11
http://www.ezilon.com/articles/articles/7299/1/Mystery-of-Babylon-Solved!–The-BEAST-Identified%3F–New-CLUES-to-understanding-Revelation.
http://dreamingofmoshiach.blogspot.com/2008/01/president-bushpresident-gog.html
What will happen between President Bush second and third visit to Israel that will cause the USA elections to be cancelled? It says in the Zohar HaKadosh that Iran will bomb the USA and in response, the USA will make international wars against all the Arab countries that opposes her.
In total, President Gog Bush will visit Israel 3 times. But between his second and third visit, something* will occur that will cause the USA elections to be cancelled and President Bush will remain the president.
BABYLON THE NATION
http://www.watchmanbiblestudy.com/biblestudies/Definitions/Def_Babylon.htm
Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jeremiah 50:12).
Babylon would be the Queen among the nations (Isaiah 47:5,7; Revelation 18:7).
Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isaiah 47; Jeremiah 50,51; Revelation 18).
Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jeremiah 50:23; Revelation 18:23).
Babylon is called a lady,(frihetsgudinnen)
and has the symbol of the lady (Isaiah 47:7,9).
Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jeremiah 51:41).
Babylon is center of world trade (Jeremiah 51:41; Revelation 17:18; 18:19).
Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the World (Revelation 18:3,7,19,23).
All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Revelation 18:3).
The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Revelation 18:23).
Babylon is a huge nation, with lands, cities, and great wealth (implied throughout).
Babylon is nation “peeled”, or timbered, a land of open fields (Isaiah 18:2).
Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isaiah 18:2).
Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isaiah 18:2).
Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isaiah 14:20; 18,2,7).
Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jeremiah 51:13).
Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jeremiah 50,51; Revelation 18).
Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jeremiah 51:13; Revelation 18).
Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world (Jeremiah 50,51; Revelation 18).
Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jeremiah 50:26).
Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isaiah 13, 47, Jeremiah 50, 51; Revelation 18).
Babylon is noted for her horses (Jeremiah 50:37).
Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jeremiah 50:26, 27; Revelation 18).
Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Revelation 18:3).
Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jeremiah 50: 16, 26, 27).
Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Revelation 18:22).
Babylon’s musicians are known around the world (Revelation 18:22).
Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isaiah 14:13-14; Jeremiah 51:53; Habakkuk 1:6-10).
Babylon’s skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isaiah 18:1; Jeremiah 51:53).
Babylon has a huge space industry, has “monted up to the heavens (Jeremiah 51: 53).
Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jeremiah 51:53).
Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jeremiah 51:53; Habakkuk 1:6-10;implied throughout).
Hi Torstein,
I understand what you are saying about America representing itself as a spiritual or end time Babylon.
I do not follow your logic about Bush. According to American law, he is only allowed to hold office 2 times. He has done this, and is now retired.
The 2008 elections were last year. This is 2009, and Obama is President. Some agree with this and some do not. But, officially, for now, he is President. If he were to leave office, the vice President or the Speaker of the House would take his place. Since the democrat party is in power, it would not have Bush, from the republican party, take Obama’s place.
But then, these are the end times, and anything crazy could happen from now on.
Dear Torstein,
The USA is just a part of “THE GREAT BABYLON” . The 3.5 year time of “JACOBS TROUBLE” will be WORLD WIDE. Each MAN, Each NATION ……..will be dealt…the LORDS WRATH……..each in its own MEASURE.
Hey Torstein,
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Torstein, Your observations are interresting to say the least, as the “Bush family” are known to be a “criminal Family”, and would easily fit into Satans plans.
Only problem is, that the book of Revelation was given to John in aprox.96 A.D. (the Roman empire time) and Revelation 17:10 specifically mentions that “time-element”, (“the sixth is”) in regards to this prophecy.
This indicates that the first five kings, must have “existed before” the Roman empire “time-line”, and therefore refers to the five “world empires” that have “opressed Israel”, before the Roman empire, Namely; Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo Persia, and Greece. (and it is from one of these “first five” that the “eighth” king must come.) hint; the revived Greecian empire, specifically the ‘eastern’ or “Syrian” divission.
Also there is clear prophecy in the O.T. which excludes America, from being “Babylon”. (I am Sorry I cannot divulge that info at present, as my second book discusses this in depth in revealing the “set-up” of modern Babylon, by the Zionists)
Torstein, you can email me from my website, just click on my name in the box below.
Morgan Sörensen
You have not considered one important thought – When the prophecy was given, john was transported to the future – the end times – the time we are now in. In this case the kings may represent any number of kings or kingdoms between his time and ours. The idea of a roman king being resurrected in our times only fits your catholic-style explanation but is not logical unless it is supernatural.
And don’t count on a Revived Greek empire anytime soon, if ever. Unless maybe Alexander the great is going to be resurrected. What do you think?
Morgan, you have some very good ideas, but I believe Scripture indicates that the Revelation is only a little more than a 3 1/2 year period, and not a 7 year period. Most of the older commentators believed that Christ fulfilled the first 3 1/2 years of Da’s 70th wk himself, and by His death on the cross, caused the sacrificial system to cease, God bearing witness to this by tearing the vail in half from top to bottom.
A key time indicator in Revelation is the 1260 day preaching of the Two Witnesses. It does not tell us when they start; we have to figure that out, but it is very clear when they end, toward the end of the 6th trumpet, which is towards the end of the 7th Seal, Which is the book of Revelation. The beast only continues 30 or 40 days past the Two Witnesses before the Vials of the Wrath of God are poured out on him and his Islamic kingdom. There are no verses in the Bible that say that the beast is going to make a covenant with Israel for 7 years, except Da. 9:27, if it is interpreted that way. There are many verses both new and old that tell us that Jesus confirmed the Abrahamic covenant with many for the first half of the week, starting with Lk 1:67ff; Ga 3:14ff. Read my study by request at my email add. on Da 70th Week. Revelation deals only with the 2nd half of the week. You possibly have not heard this view; it is not new, but very Biblical.
There is no 7 yr tribulation, thank God, nor does the Bible refer to a 7 yr tribulation. According to Jesus, in Mt 24:29 tribulation ends with the sign of the Sun Moon and Stars being darkened in Re 6:12. It took me ten years of looking at this, and one day the Lord said, how long do I have to present this to you before you will accept it. The same sign of the sun moon and stars is associated with the O.T. day of the LORD starting with Is 13; Joel 2 & 3. Tribulation ends with this cosmic sign of Mt 24:29, and this is the O.T. sign signaling the start of the Day of the LORD, which is the 7 trumpets; the 2nd part of the day of the LORD is the wrath of God, the 7 Vial judgments. 9 times in Revelation the Vials are called the wrath of God, or Armageddon is called the wrath of God, which is the 6th Vial. If you believe in Pretribulationism, don’t bother to send me your refutations please; I preached pretrib for 16 years. Mike mmboehm@msn.com
Hi MR
I think along the same lines as you do. Daniel mentions time, times and half a time (3 1/2 years). The woman in Rev 12 escapes for the same time period into the wilderness. Other passages mention 42 months.
The last week of Daniel and the covenant does not mention Israel specifically. It just says a “covenant with many” for one week. So, who are the “many?”
The Islamic fable known as the Mahdi indicates that this conquerer of the infidels will crawl out of an abandoned well and initiate a global apocalypse. Followers of Islam worship the pagan deity known as Allah the crescent moon idol of Arabia. Allah was one of 360 idols worshipped at the Kabah in Mecca, yet Muhammed in his earnest to convert Jews and Christians decided to install Allah as the supreme deity although still recognized as a pagan idol. Islamic prophecy or fables has nothing to do with Bible Prophecy, the belief in the 12 Imam or Mahdi is a modern fable not even found in the Quran.
The modern fable concerning an Islamic Anti-Christ is now being circulated by so called prophecy scholars such as Joel Richardson.
This belief is contrary to scriptures that identifies clearly that Islam will be irrevelant in the events of the Last Days having been soundly defeated during the Gog/Magog invasion of Ezekiel 38-39. The Mahdi is not found in the Quran, it is a modern fable.
My Dear Bro Rodney,
I appreciate you expressing your opinion, but, remember, your theological opinion is not inspired, any more than any other writer on this page, that is, unless you have the full mind of Christ yourself, and an infallible understanding of End Time things?
I assume that you swim in the text book, Bible School, doctinal pool of Pretribulationism, which is founded upon ten suposition that have not been proven, nor can be proven, and upon Dispensationalism, which is a Scofieldism. The most prominent of these ten is imminency. Remember to that, Pretrib, midtrib, post trib, partial rapture etc, are all just theories. It used to be called the Pretribulation rapture theory. A theory is not something to be dogmatic about. The Pretrib theory started around 1825 with John Darby of the Plymouth Brethren. You can research this on the web, or you can read the book, The Rapture, Pre, Mid, or Post-Tribulation, written by three professor of Grace Theological Seminary. They all teach in the same school, so I assume they have grace, and Christian character to get along with each other. The best part of the book is the first chapter, A History of the Development of the rapture positions; an excellent treatise. Post tribulationism is the oldest of the three positions, and by far the easiest to prove from Scripture. It doesn’t have the spiritualized passages that pretrib has. Remember, we follow the normal literal method of interpretation. An excellent article by Charles Erdman on the Post tribulation rapture can be found in ISBES, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia set, under Parousia; it is the only article written on the rapture in the 5 volume set, but the set was written around 1900, before pretribulationism was a prominent view in Premillennialism. Charles Erdman was the only editor of the Scofield reference Bible who was not pretrib, I think; there might have been one other. Pre tribulationism is newer, and mid trib is the newest, starting around 1950. The Pre Trib preachers, Gabeline & Scofield were funded by the Pllymouth Brethren, from whence the doctrine emerged from its founder, John Darby. They held Prophecy conferences all over the country, and those conferences, and Scofield’s reference Bible were the two key things that popularized pretribulationism; by 1950 it had eclipsed the postrib position. (I cut my teeth on Scofield’s Bible)
It is interesting that Charles Spurgeon and George Meuller thought Darby’s new theory of eschatology was a strange. Now in these end time, last days it is the golden calf.
Anyway, my dear brother, may God guide you by His Spirit into all truth; it takes a lot of prayer, studying, and fasting to gain a true and Biblical understanding of end time things. Remember to, that Daniel understood Jeremiah’s 70 weeks prophecy by fasting for 3 weeks. Have you lifted up your voice in prayer with fasting to God for understanding, that your voice might be heard on high, and that God might be pleased to open your understanding to understand what will happen in the end times? Let us go forth unto Him without the camp.
Hi,
Enclosed is a Bible study of the 7 Bible clues which reveal the identity of the coming antichrist of the Great Tribulation and could Obama possibly be the future False Prophet of 666. Jesus is our bestest Friend and only Jesus and His Father gives Endless Love. Hoping for your comments and feedback. My phone is 863-651-4426.
Your eternal friend in Jesus,
Richard
WHAT ARE THE 7 BIBLE CLUES WHICH REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF 666??
Revelation 13:17b,18: “The mark of the beast {Or antichrist}is the *NAME* of the Beast or the number of *HIS NAME*. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, *LET HIM* calculate the number of the Beast {Even in AD 96 when Revelation was written}, for it is a man’s number {Or “Number of a MAN”}. *HIS* number is *666*.” God has promised in the above inspired passage that any saint {Even in AD 96–which implies that the name was known in AD 96} with spiritual wisdom and insight may calculate the name of the beast which is a *MAN’S NAME* and adds up to 666.
In Thess 2:3 the Beast of the End-Times is called a “*MAN* of sin or lawlessness” or very SINFUL MAN and therefore the name of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S* name which is also confirmed in Rev 13:17b,18 above. Therefore, the NAME of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a sinful *MAN’S NAME* and could not be the name of a woman or a city, country, computer or Satan, etc..
Rev 13:16,17: “He {The False Prophet} forced everyone… to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead. No one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {Nero Caesar??} or the number of his name {666}. The antichrist is called a “BEAST” 36 {6×6} times in Revelation and the BEAST is a much better name than antichrist since antichrist is mentioned 4 times in God’s Word {I John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 1:7} and each time the word encompasses all who are against Christ. I JOHN 2:18: “Even now many antichrists have come.” Surely all who receive the mark of the Beast are antichrists.
666 is referred to in the MASCULINE gender 28 times and the Beast is never referred to in the feminine or neuter gender. It is interesting to note that if the Beast of the end-times will be a religious organization, country or city it would be referred to in the female or neuter gender!!! The masculine pronouns used for the Beast are “HIS” 11 times: Rev 13:1, 5,16b,18b; 14:9,11; 17:7b; 19:2; 20:4(2X) & Daniel 7:26. “HE” 10 times: Rev 13:1;6a,7a,7; 17:8b; 17:11; 2 Thess 2:6; Daniel 7:24,25 & Daniel 9:27. “HIM” 5 times: Rev 13:4b; 19:20; 2 Thess 2:6; Daniel 7:25 & Daniel 9:27. “HIMSELF” 2 times in 2 Thess 2:4.
Actually there are **7 BIBLE CLUES** that show who the BEAST of the future 1260-day Tribulation will be. By an amazing coincidence all 7 Bible clues can be applied to Nero Caesar!!
{{1}} The BEAST will be a “MAN OF SIN” or very sinful MAN as per 2 Thess 2:3 above.
{{2}} The number of this sinful man’s name is 666 as per Rev 13:16-18. The Bible was written by 40 divinely inspired Hebrews in Hebrew and Greek so then it is highly probable that this man’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew or Greek. Nero Caesar’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew which we will show later in this Bible study.
{{3}} This sinful man whose name adds up to 666 DIED BEFORE AD 96 when Revelation was written.{See Rev 17:8 below} We will show later why Revelation was written between Sept AD 95 and Sept AD 96. Nero Caesar lived from December 15th, AD 37 to June 9th AD 68.
{{4}} This sinful man who was alive and then died before AD 96 was FATALLY WOUNDED by a sword wound to his head. Nero Caesar committed suicide with a sword wound to his head on June 9th, AD 68. {See Rev 13:3 and Rev 13:14 below}
{{5}} This very sinful man who died before AD 96 was a KING in the Roman Empire as per Daniel 7:24. There were 11 Roman Kings or Caesars who died before AD 96 including the 6th Caesar who killed Paul and Peter in AD 66; and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew. Domitian Caesar was the 12th Caesar who was alive when Revelation was written in AD 96.
{{6}} The beast is also called an 8th KING who ruled before AD 96 as one of 7 KINGS crowned by the city on 7 hills. {See Rev 17:9-11} The identity of these 8 KINGS will be discussed later in this article.
{{7}} This very sinful ROMAN KING whose name adds up to 666 and who was fatally wounded by a sword before AD 96, will “COME UP FROM THE *ABYSS* or *HELL* as per Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8. We know that the ABYSS is HELL by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31. We can be sure that Nero Caesar is now in the Abyss or Hell since he killed Paul and Peter and thousands of Christians and sent Vespasian {the father of Titus and Domitian Caesar} to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. The MAN OF SIN or Nero also killed his own mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach. Inscriptions have been found in Ephesus in which Nero is called “Almighty God” and “Savior. In Revelation 13:8a we learn that all the unsaved inhabitants of the world will worship the Beast. Nero and Caligula “abandoned all reserve” in promoting emperor worship – they were the only two Roman Caesars who demanded divine honors while still alive. Nero claimed to be the sun-god Apollo. In 2 Thess 2:4 we read that the “Man of Sin” will proclaim that he is God!
Revelation 17:8: The beast, which you saw, once was {alive}, Now {in AD 96} is not {alive} and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book life.. .. will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was {Before AD 96}, now {In AD 96} is not {Alive} and yet will come. Rev 13:14: He {The False Prophet} will order the inhabitants of the earth to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived.” Rev 13:3: One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound. but the fatal wound had been HEALED!! The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.
When I was a missionary in Israel I studied the Hebrew language. One of the first things that you learn when you study the OT Ancient Hebrew language {Which is also the language of Israel today!} is that the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet ALSO represent 22 numbers! When you read Psalm 119 you will note that the 176 sentences are divided into 22 sections; each section with 8 sentences or verses praising the Word of God. These 22 sections are each headed by one of the letters in the hebrew alphabet in the exact same order as shown below. The ancient Hebrew language {Which is exactly the same as the modern Hebrew language} frequently used the letters of their alphabet to designate NUMBERS IN THE OT as follows:
ALEPH=1. BETH=2. GIMEL=3. DALET=4. HE=5. VAV=6. ZAYIN=7. CHETH=8. TETH=9. YODH=10. KAPH=20. LAMED=30. MEM=40. NUN=50. SAMEKH=60. AYIN=70. PE=80. TSADHE=90. KOPH=100. RESH=200. SHIN=300. TAV=400.
NOTE: Most vowel sounds excpt “O” {VAV} are not used as letters in Hebrew. These vowel sounds are designated by dots and dashes under their *PRECEDING* consonants. In Hebrew “N” is added on the end of all foreign names ending in “O”. Therefore, the foreign name of Nero would be “NERON” in Hebrew. The name Nero Caesar would be pronounced Neron Kaysar in Hebrew. The “E” in Neron and the 2 “A” sounds in Kaysar {There is no “C” in Hebrew} are designated by dots and dashes under their preceding consonants and therefore are not letters in the 22 letter Hebrew alphabet, and so have no numerical value.
Neron in Hebrew would use 4 letters with numerical value: N-R-O-N and Kaysar in Hebrew would use 3 letters with numerical value: K-S-R. There would be a dot under the first N to show the “E” sound in NEron There would also be 2 dots under the “K” to show the “AY” sound in KAYsar and a dash under the “S” to show the “AH” sound in KaySAHr. The 4 letters with numerical value in NERON would be {SEE TABLE ABOVE} N = 50; R = RESH = 200; O = VAV = 6; and N = NUN = 50 and 50+20+6+50 equals 306. The 3 letters with numerical value in “KAYSAR would be K = KOPH = 100; S = SAMEKH = 60; and R = RESH =200 and 100+60+200 equals 360. And so the numerical value of Nero in Hebrew is 306 and the numerical value of Caesar in Hebrew is 360, and therefore the numerical value of Nero Caesar is 306+360 or exactly *666*!
There is a very interesting footnote in the revised Standard Version concerning the number 666 which states that some ancient manuscripts have the number **616** which *DOUBLY* confirms that Nero Caesar may be the Anti-Christ!! You will note that the Hebrew language adds an “N” to all foreign names eding in “O”. Now “N” or “NUN” in Hebrew has a numerical value of **50**!! and so if you decided not to add the last “N” in NERON then Nero Caesar would add up to exactly **616** in Hebrew. I think you will admit that this is an absolutely amazing coincidence!!
Any honest Hebrew language scholar will confirm that the letters of Nero Caesar’s name add up to 666 in the Hebrew language whose 22 letters are also 22 numbers as shown above. Since all of the prophecies concerning the antichrist are written in OT Hebrew {Like Daniel 7:8-25} or NT Koine Greek it would then seem logical that God would use one of these 2 Bible languages to identify the Name of the Beast whose letters add up to 666. One of the problems of doing this in NT Koine Greek is that the letters of their alphabet are not also numbers. And therefore you can only assign a numerical value of 22 to the 22nd letter, etc.. Using this formula you could not get any name to add up to over 250, let alone 666. You have the same problem with English and all other languages other than the Hebrew language!
NOTE: The 3 different Greek words used in Revelation 13:18b to arrive at the number 666 are the 3 different Greek words for 600 and 60 and 6 and not 6 + 6 + 6.
Will the 6th Caesar {Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & the *6th* is NERO who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD *66*} be the Beast who comes up from the Abyss {Or Hell-See Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8} in the coming Great Tribulation??
Rev 1:8,9: “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos beacuse of the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” We know that the island of Patmos was the site of a Roman prison in the first Century and that the Apostle John was suffering in this prison because of his religious beliefs. {As per Rev 1:8,9 above} The island of Patmos is about 30 miles from the port of Ephesus in Western Turkey. History tells us that the second huge Roman persecution of Christians {The first was NERO’S PERSECUTION OF AD 64-68} occurred in the last year of the reign of Domitian Caesar which would have been from September AD 95 to September AD 96. During the last year of his rule Domitian Caesar decreed that everyone in the Roman Empire must worship idols of former Roman Caesar’s or else they would be killed or put in prison. Historical documents show us that the Apostle John lived to about AD 100 and therefore would have been alive during Domitian’s evil decree of September AD 95 to September of AD 96. Since we can be sure that the Apostle John would never worship an idol of a Roman Caesar it is then highly probable that John was put in prison on Patmos Isle sometime during Domitian’s evil decree from September AD 95 to September AD 96.
Rev 1:10,11: “On the Lord’s Day I {John} was in the spirit and I heard a loud voice {Jesus} said, ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the 7 churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatria, Sardis, Philadelphis and Laodicea.” The last 6 churches are all in Western Turkey within 77 miles of Ephesus. About 50 years earlier Paul had started churches in these 7 cities. Paul always had Jewish converts in the cities where he preached since he had the habit of teaching in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath. It was then highly probable that all 7 of these chuches had Jewish believers who were very familiar with the Hebrew language and of course knew that the 22 letters of the Jewish alphabet are also 22 numbers and also remembered the first Roman persecution by Nero or the “MAN OF SIN” about 30 years earlier when Paul & Peter and thousands of Christians were martyred because of Nero Caesar. Nero also sent Vespasian, the father of Titus and Domitian; to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. He also killed his mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach. Christian writings in the early 2nd century AD show that many Christians at that time believed that Nero Caesar {Who adds up to 666 in Hebrew} would return as the BEAST of the End-Times.
Rev 13:18: “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight {Even in AD 96}, let him {Even in AD 96} calculate the Beast, for it is a man’s number. His {Nero Caesar’s} number is 666!” And so the above Scripture absolutely guarantees that anyone with spiritual wisdom and insight could figure out who the BEAST of the End-Times would be even when Revelation was first given to the churches in AD 96, and that the number of his name adds up to 666. This would of course mean that the future BEAST must have been alive before AD 96 when this Scripture was given to the churches. Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} certainly qualified since he lived from Dec 15th AD 37 to June 9th, AD 68 when he was fatally wounded by his own SWORD.
Revelation 17:8b: “Those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life will be astonished when they see the beast {666}, because he once was {Alive–AD 37-68} now in AD 96 is not {Alive}, and yet will come.” {During the Great Tribulation} The Beast once was {Alive before AD 96} now is not {Alive in AD 96}, and will come out of the ABYSS {Or HELL} and go to his destruction.” {On the last Day-See Rev 19:20b} The fact that the ABYSS is HELL is confirmed by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31: 2 Peter 2:4: “God did not spare the angels when they sinned but sent them into HELL, putting them in gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment.” Luke 8:30b,31: “Many demons {Or Hell’s Angels} had gone into him {A demon-possessed man}. And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them into the ABYSS! {Because they had already been in Hell or the ABYSS before!!} Also in Luke 16:22-24 we read that there was a rich man already in HELL at the time of Jesus. Now we can be absolutely certain that an evil Roman king from the city on 7 hills; who was fatally wounded by a sword *BEFORE* Revelation was written in AD 96; and whose name adds up to 666 is presently in this ABYSS or HELL!! All historical documents agree that Nero Caesar {The 6th Caesar who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD 66 and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th AD 68. In Revelation 13:14b we learn that the False Prophet of 666 will order the building of a statue of 666 “Who was {FATALLY-See Rev 13:3} wounded by the SWORD and yet lived!” {AGAIN} Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} again qualifies for this inspired clue as to the identity of the BEAST. Nero’s 4-year Roman persecution began when he blamed the Christians for the burning of Rome in July, AD 64; and ended when Nero was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th, AD 68.
Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 willcome from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast or Nero Caesar-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completelydestroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
Revelation 6:7,8: When the Lamb opened the 4th seal, I heard the voice of the 4th living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death {666 who will cause the death of millions} and Hades {The False Prophet who will cause millions to go to Hades by receiving the mark of 666} was following close behind him. THEY {Nero Caesar and the False Prophet} were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. Daniel 7:8,20,24 says that an evil Roman King will conquer 3 of the 10 kingdoms {which will cover one fourth of the earth??}–Russia {Combined with former Soviet Union}, China and India cover one fourth of the earth and have over one fourth of the world’s population! These 3 kingdoms may object and become jealous of 666 and his False Prophet ruling every country in the world. It is also possible that Israel will attack Iran’s nuclear facilities which will precipitate World War III and Russia China and India will back Iran. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and about 70 % of the world’s military power and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every country in South America except Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. After appointing 10 kings who have never before ruled {See Rev 17:12,13} in these 10 nations 666 will then have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in Rome. 666 and his False prophet will then quickly gain complete control over the radio, tv, internet, newspaper, book and magazine medias. There are some who suggest that these 10 nations will all come from Europe and will not include Russia, China, India, Japan and the USA and will therefore only have about 5 % of the world’s population and about 20% of the world’s military power. Daniel 7:24 confirms that the 10 kings of a revived Roman Empire also mentioned in Rev 17:12 will help 666 rule the world. However to assume that the 10 kings of these 10 end-time kingdoms must come from Europe is a false assumption since a REVIVED Roman Empire could include the Major powers of the world of the future Great Tribulation. Revelation 13:4: Men worshipped the dragon {Satan}, and they also worshipped the beast {666 or Nero Caesar} and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?
The next 5 paragraphs are an interesting SPECULATION about what might happen at the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation and who possibly may be the future False Prophet of 666. The False Prophet is referred to as “HE” {Masculine Gender} 9 times in Rev 13:11-16 & Rev 19:20. And “HE” was a very “DECEPTIVE” False Prophet as shown in Rev 13:11-16 & Rev 19:20.
And so Nero Caesar with the help of the armies of the False Prophet {Obama??} and other nations aligned with him will conquer 1/4 of the world {See Rev 6:8; 13:4b} and then 666 will appoint 10 kings over 10 kingdoms to rule the world who have never before ruled {see Rev 17:12-14} and who will then take orders from 666 and his False Prophet from their headquarters in the evil city on 7 HILLS or Rome.{See Rev 17:9} Revelation 6:6: “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages!” This phrase can also be translated “A loaf of bread for a day’s wages.” This event will occur at the coming of the black horse rider {Rev 6:5} which will take place just before or at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Because of the world’s present economic crises the majority of people in the 40 poorest counties now have to pay a full day’s wages for a loaf of bread as per Rev 6:6. And if the world experiences a world-wide depression this event could occur in over 100 countries. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. Many countries are far worse off than people in the USA during the Great Depression when there was 20 % unemployment. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. There are now 40 countries with unemployment rates of over 30 % and this should rapidly increase. And then the world will certainly be looking for an Economic Savior such as 666 and his very deceptive False Prophet. They will be looking for someone who promises CHANGE!! If the Great Tribulation would begin in the near future is there a well-known, powerful world leader that may qualify to be the deceptive False Prophet of 666 who will promise CHANGE you can believe in!! Will this powerful world leader try to bankrupt the USA which will in turn cause a worldwide depression and cause the price of a loaf of bread to cost a full day’s wages??? The False Prophet is featured in Revelation 13:11-17; 16:13 19:20 & 20:10.
Do Obama’s religious beliefs qualify him as a False Prophet?? Some insight into Obama’s “Christianity” comes from an interview he gave in 2004 to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani for her book, “The God Factor: Inside the Spiritual Lives of Public People.” “I’m rooted in the Christian tradition,” said Obama. He then adds something most Christians will see as universalism: “I believe there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.” Jesus says of Himself, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” That sounds exclusive, but Obama says it depends on how this verse is heard. According to Falsani, Obama thinks that “all people of faith — Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone — know the same God. “Obama doesn’t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell. But he’s not sure he’ll be going to heaven, either.” Obama told a crowd at Hocking College that he believes the Sermon on the Mount JUSTIFIES his support for legal recognoition of same-sex unions?? Obama approves of same sex romantic and sexual relationships as do his former church, his pastor, and his former (So-called} Christian denomination?? The False Prophet should be hugely popular world wide. Interesting fact: Obama has greater worldwide popularity than any leader in modern history, according to a recent poll in Reader’s Digest. Jesus is our Messiah and is called the LAMB 27 times in the book of Revelation. The False Prophet is someone who is like a LAMB according to Rev 13:11b. People from all over the world have already given Obama this interesting nickname “THE MESSIAH”!! The False Prophet will certainly teach that you can have your cake and eat it too, and that you will not go to hell if you receive the Mark of the Beast; allowing you to buy or sell everything. However, Rev 14:9-11; 19:20 & 20:10 confirm that he and all who receive the Mark of the Beast will be tormented day and night for ever and ever in Hell!
NOTE: There are many statues of the exact likeness of Nero Caesar including a 151 foot statue in the “Golden House” in Rome. The statue of Liberty {Without pedestal} is also exactly 151 feet high… hmmm. At the beginning of Great Tribulation the False Prophet of 666, Rev 13:14: “Will order the people of the earth to set up a statue in honor of the beast who was wounded {Fatally-Rev 13:3} by the SWORD and yet lived!” {Again} This staue of the Beast will be the “exact likeness” of Nero Caesar and could possibly be seen on World Wide TV so that people of all nations will be able to worship this statue as per Rev 13:15b. Obama’s Air Force 1 plane just had a photo op with the Statue of Liberty….Hmmm…. The face of the Statue of Liberty could easily be changed to look like Nero Caesar within a week!
666 is called a BEAST 36 {6X6 times in Revelation and the False Prophet is also called a “BEAST” in Rev 13:11. Obama has nicknamed his presidential limousine “THE BEAST”!! In Revelation 13:11 the False Prophet is called the BEAST of the {PRESENT} EARTH. Whereas all true Christians are looking forward to a new heaaven and NEW EARTH as per 2 Peter 3:13: “We are looking forward to a new heaven and a NEW EARTH the home of righteousness.” {See Rev 21:1} Obama is the all-time world’s greatest champion of EARTH day and saving the PRESENT EARTH from Global Warming, Geeenhouse gasses, coal buring and carbon emissions and he may bankrupt the world in trying to achieve these goals.
In Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24:15 666 is called an “ABOMINATION”. In a recent Middle East tour Obama declared that the USA was “NOT a Christian nation!” I would tend to agree with Obama since with dominating majorities in the House, Senate and Supreme Court Obama is rapidly and surely turning this nation into an “OBAMANATION”!! WARNING: The possible identity of the future False Prophet of 666 is just an interesting SPECULATION.
” Revelation 7:9,14,4: “There before me was a great multitutude that no one could count, from EVERY nation, tribe, people and language {The Full number of Gentiles} standing before the throne in front of the Lamb….These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”…..”Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 {Evangelists} from the 12 tribes of Israel. It is possible that only Jews will be saved during the last months of the Great Tribulation after the Full number of Gentiles has come in.
“Babylon” is called a CITY 7 times in Revelation, chapter 18, and a SEAPORT in Rev 18:17-19. Peter was inspired to call Rome “Babylon” in I Peter 5:13. Rome is a CITY and a SEAPORT built on 7 HILLS! Babylon and Jerusalem are not seaports and are not built on 7 hills!
Rev 13:14-17: The False Prophet deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR} or the number of his name {666}. And God will supply all the needs of His faithful and corageous Tribulation saints just as He miraculously supplied all the needs of the Israelites for 40 years in the wilderness. {See Matt 6:31-34}
Rev 13:5-10: The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time, times and 1/2 a time-See Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b}….. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb…. This call for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints. Matt 24:9-12…Matt 24:29-31: Jesus says, “Then {During the 42-month Great Tribulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by ALL nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved… Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the **CLOUDS**{See Rev 1:7; Mark 14:62 & I Thess 4:16,17} of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud **TRUMPET**{See Rev 10:7; 11:15-18; I Cor 15:51,52; I Thess 4:16} call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” {Mark 13:27 adds, “From the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.”
There will be 2 Comings of Jesus on the same Last Day: The first above was *FOR* His saints and then after the Marraige Feast of the Lamb Jesus will come *WITH* His saints as per Rev 19:6-8; 11,14,19-21: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns, Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the Wedding of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready, fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear…. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True… The armies of Heaven were following Him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean… Then I saw a beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His army {See Rev 17:14 & Jude 14,15}. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs and his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshipped his image. The two of them were thrown ALIVE into the fiery lake of burning sulfur {See 2 Thess 2:8}. The rest of them were killed by the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
WILL THE CITY ON 7 HILLS OR ROME BE THE END-TIME BABYLON?? AND WHO
ARE THE 7 KINGS FROM THE CITY BUILT ON 7 HILLS??
Most Bible scholars believe that the book of First Peter was written shortly after the beginning of Nero’s Roman persecution of Christians in AD 64 because of I Peter 4:12,13 & 5:8,9. We know that Peter and his wife were living in Rome at this time. Peter was inspired to write in I Peter 5:13: “She {Peter’s wife} who is in *BABYLON* {Nickname for *ROME*!} sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.” Apparently some Christians including Peter were inspired to call ROME “BABYLON” after Nero’s terrible persecution of Christians starting in AD 64. This is very interesting since the evil city of the End-Times is called “BABYLON” 6 times in Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21.
Ancient Babylon Had destroyed God’s Holy Temple and God’s Holy City, Jerusalem; and killed, exiled and persecuted God’s people for 70 years. Actually all encyclopedias agree that Babylon was completely evacuated in 275 BC and completely destroyed by 141 BC. The Wikipedia encyclopedia states, “By 141 BC, when the Parthian Empire took over the region, Babylon was in complete desolation and obscurity.” The only question that remains is: Was Babylon rebuilt so that there could be people living in Babylon around AD 65 when Peter wrote 1 Peter 5:13??? Which leads us to the promises of God in Jeremiah 50:1-3,13: This is the word the Lord spoke through Jeremiah concerning Babylon..”Babylon will be captured… A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land. No one will live in it; both men and animals will flee away!” Jeremiah 52:52:61-64: When you get to Babylon, see that you read all these words aloud. Then say, “O Lord, you have said you will destroy this place, so that neither man nor animal will live in it; IT WILL BE DESOLATE FOREVER When you finish readiing this scroll, tie a stone to it and throw it into the Euphrates. Then say, “So will Babylon SINK TO RISE NO MORE because of the disaster I will bring upon her.” And God ALWAYS keeps His promises. And God kept His promise for about 2284 years; since Babylon is still a pile of rubble to this very day, and will remain that way until the
Last Day of the Planet Earth; for God always keeps His promises.
“Babylon” {Nicknamed Rome by Peter} is a “GREAT SEAPORT” in Rev18:17-19; JUST LIKE ROME and UNLIKE Babylon whose ruins are NOW 4 miles from the very shallow Euphrates River; or Jerusalem which is2000 to 3000 feet above sea level and 35 miles from the Mediterranean Sea. Babylon is also completely FLAT whereas the End-Time “Babylon” will be a city built on 7 Hills JUST LIKE ROME!! Rev 17:18: “The woman you saw {Rev 17:3–Who sits with the Beast with 7 heads} is the great *CITY* {Rome–nicknamed Babylon in I Peter 5:13–See Rev 17:5a} that will rule over the kings of the earth.” {During the Great Tribulation}
Rev 17:9-11: “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 hills on which the woman {Or city of Rome} sits.” Rome is a city built on 7 HILLS!! They {The 7 Heads} are also 7 KINGS {From the city on 7 hills or Rome}. Five {Of these 7 KINGS} have fallen {Or died before AD 96}, one {the 6th KING} *IS* {Or reigning when Revelation was written in AD 96}, the other {or 7th KING} has not yet come, but when he {The 7th KING} does come, he must remain for for a little while. {Possibly the False Prophet of 666 {Or Black Horse Rider} who will be anointed by Satan just before the coming of the 8th KING {Or Pale Horse Rider} who ruled before as one of the 7 Kings} The beast {Nero Caesar who once was {Alive from
Dec 15, AD 37 to June 9, AD 68}, and NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive} is an 8th KING. He belongs to the 7 {KINGS}, because He once was {Alive-AD 37-68} NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive}, and yet will come {1260 days before the Last Day}.”
WHO ARE OR WILL BE THE 8 KINGS OF REV 17:10,11??
ROME APPOINTED THE JEWISH KINGS AFTER THEY CONQUERED ISRAEL IN 63 BC AND THE 7 KINGS OF REV 13:1B all had “blasphemous names” so we can assume that they were evil kings who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers. And so the first 3 EVIL KINGS {Who are all called KINGS in God’s Word{See Matt 2:1; Mark 6:25,26 & Acts 12:1} were all Israeli KINGS {who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers} appointed by the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
AND SO THE 8 KINGS WERE OR WILL BE:
** {#1} ** Herod the Great who tried to kill the baby Jesus: Rev 12:3-5: “Another sign appeared in Heaven : An enormous red DRAGON {Or Satan-See Rev 12:9} with 7 heads {Or 7 KINGS-See Rev 17:10a}… and 7 crowns on his {7} heads {Satan crowns the 7 kings whereas 666 crowns the 10 horns}. The DRAGON {Or Satan} stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her Child the moment he was born {Thru his first evil king or Herod the Great as per Matt 2:13b,16!!} She gave birth to a Son {Jesus} a male Child, who will rule the nations with an iron scepter!!”
**{#2}** Herod who killed John the Baptist and ridiculed and tortured Jesus {See Matt 14:1-12; Luke 23:7-11}
**{#3}** Herod Antipas who killed the Apostle James and tried to kill Peter. {See Acts 12:1-5,19-23}
**{#4}** Nero Caesar who will come again as the 8th KING who will be the BEAST of the End-Times.
**{#5}** Titus Caesar who killed thousands of Christians when he destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. Titus is also mentioned as a “Prince” in Daniel 9:26. Titus Caesar was the oldest son of Vespasian Caesar who was Caesar from Dec AD 69 to AD 79; and therefore heir and Crown *PRINCE* to the throne in Rome and was Caesar from AD 79 to AD 81.
**{#6**}** Domitian Caesar the 6th KING {“NOW IS”} was ruling in AD 96, and decreed in the last year of his reign {Sept AD 95 to Sept AD 96} that everyone must worship former Roman Caesars {Like Nero} or be killed and put in prison.{Like the Apostle John who was living in Ephesus at that time.}
**{#7}** Possibly the False Prophet of 666 who will be crowned the 7th evil King of Rome by Satan shortly before the coming of the:
**{8th}** KING or Nero Caesar {The End-Time Beast or antichrist}; who ruled before as one of the **7 KINGS** The 4TH & 8TH KING will come up up from the Abyss or Hell exactly 1260 days before the last Day to rule from the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
Rev 17:6: “The woman {ROME} will be drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bear testimony to Jesus.” While in Rev 13:7 we learn that the BEAST will be given “power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.” And in Rev 13:15b we read that 666 will “cause all who refuse to worship his statue to be killed.” We must therefore conclude that the evil city “on 7 hills” or Rome will be the HEADQUARTERS of 666 during the Great Tribulation.
The BEAST will very quickly conquer 1/4th of the world with many miracles {See Rev 6:8; 13:4} and will then appoint 10 Kings who have never before ruled over the 10 most powerful nations of the world {See Rev 17:12-14,17}. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD’S MILITARY POWER and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city built on 7 hills or Rome.
My Dear Bro Rodney,
I appreciate your opinion, but, remember, our theological opinions are not inspired, but only opinions, granted, studied ones, as is every other writer on this page. We don’t have the full mind of Christ; our understanding of End Time things is not infallible?
Pretribulationism is founded upon ten suposition that have not been proven, nor can be proven, and upon Dispensationalism, which is a Scofieldism. The most prominent of these ten is imminency. Remember to that, Pretrib, midtrib, post trib, partial rapture etc, are all just theories. It used to be called the Pretribulation rapture theory. A theory is not something to be to dogmatic about.
The Pretrib theory started around 1825 with John Darby of the Plymouth Brethren. You can research this on the web, or you can read the book, The Rapture, Pre, Mid, or Post-Tribulation, written by three professor of Grace Theological Seminary. They all teach in the same school, so I assume they have grace, and Christian character to get along with each other. The best part of the book (in my opinion the only good part of the book) is the first chapter, A History of the Development of the rapture positions; an excellent treatise. The book is worth getting for that 50 page chapter. Post tribulationism is the oldest of the three positions, and by far the easiest to prove from Scripture. It doesn’t have the spiritualized passages that pretrib has. Remember, we follow the normal literal method of interpretation.
An excellent article by Charles Erdman on the Post tribulation rapture can be found in ISBES, the International Standard Bible Encyclopedia set, under Parousia; it is the only article written on the rapture in the 5 volume set, but the set was written around 1900, before pretribulationism was a prominent view in Premillennialism. Charles Erdman was the only editor of the Scofield reference Bible who was not pretrib, I think; there might have been one other. Pre tribulationism is newer, and mid trib is the newest, starting around 1950. The Pre Trib preachers, Gabeline & Scofield were funded by the Pllymouth Brethren, from whence the doctrine emerged from its founder, John Darby. They held Prophecy conferences all over the country, and those conferences, and Scofield’s reference Bible were the two key things that popularized pretribulationism; by 1950 it had eclipsed the postrib position. (I cut my teeth on Scofield’s Bible)
It is interesting that Charles Spurgeon and George Meuller thought Darby’s new theory of eschatology was strange. Now in these end time, last days it is the golden calf.
Anyway, my dear brother, may God guide you by His Spirit into all truth; it takes a lot of prayer, studying, and fasting to gain a true and Biblical understanding of end time things. Remember to, that Daniel understood Jeremiah’s 70 weeks prophecy by fasting for 3 weeks. Have you lifted up your voice in prayer with fasting to God for understanding, that your voice might be heard on high, and that God might be pleased to open your understanding to understand what will happen in the end times? Let us go forth unto Him without the camp. Thank YOU!
Wow I’m speechlsh how you got that ifro.! Even I would not know all that, I may be come preist and one day and I might use that ifro. May the lord watch over these work Aman.
The Bible identifies The beast, antichrist, lucifer in flesh as being of Ishmaels descendtants in several scriptures.Consider the broad way of Matt 7 that leads to hell..It is also called false prophets.. This broad way is built on SAND… Now consider Revelation 13-1 where John stands on the SAND OF THE SEA and sees islamic beast rise up out of the sea…THIS IS THE SAND FOUNDATION OF MATTHEW 7..complete with the false prophets of the broad way… Now consider Rev 20-7, 8 whereby satan deceives and gathers the men who are numbered as the SAND OF THE SEA to battle Jesus..
As for Lucifer consider what he said in Isaiah 14-13.. He said he will exalt his throne above the STARS OF GOD..He does this with the lie that Ishamel, who is as the sand of the sea shore is the chosen , not Isaac whose descendants are as the STARS of Heaven..
I should have worded the above COMMENT like this..
Lucifer said in Isaiah 14-13.. He said he will exalt his throne above the STARS OF GOD..He does this with the lie that Ishamel line who is as the sand of the sea shore is the chosen , not Isaac whose descendants are as the STARS of Heaven..
And then he begins to gather Ishamel’s descendants as stated in Rev. 20-7,8…satan deceives and gathers the men who are numbered as the SAND OF THE SEA to battle Jesus..
He gathers them in to the BROAD WAY that is built on THE SAND FUNDATION(ishamels SAND)…MATT 7..
JOHN IDENTIFIES THIS BROAD WAY BUILT ON sand AND THE FACT THAT THE BEAST IS ALL TIED IN WITH iSHAMEL’S DESCENDANTS WHEN HE STATED IN REV. 13 -1.John stands on the SAND OF THE SEA and sees (islamic) beast rise up out of the sea…
These who profess they are of IShmael and are the real chosen line are same as those of Satan’s synagogue that say they are jews (chosen) but are liars..The only thing Ishamel’s line was chosen for was to be outcast.unless they convert to the real Jesus
hi ruth
Those are good points, about the sand and stars. I should look into that and have a post about it. Thank you very much.
Hi Ruth,
That is an interesting connection; I totally missed that.
Hi,
Enclosed is a Bible study of the 7 Bible clues which reveal the identity of the coming antichrist of the Great Tribulation and could Obama possibly be the future False Prophet of 666. Jesus is our bestest Friend and only Jesus and His Father gives Endless Love. Hoping for your comments and feedback. My phone is 863-651-4426.
Your eternal friend in Jesus,
Richard
WHAT ARE THE 7 BIBLE CLUES WHICH REVEAL THE IDENTITY OF 666??
Revelation 13:17b,18: “The mark of the beast {Or antichrist}is the *NAME* of the Beast or the number of *HIS NAME*. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, *LET HIM* calculate the number of the Beast {Even in AD 96 when Revelation was written}, for it is a man’s number {Or “Number of a MAN”}. *HIS* number is *666*.” God has promised in the above inspired passage that any saint {Even in AD 96–which implies that the name was known in AD 96} with spiritual wisdom and insight may calculate the name of the beast which is a *MAN’S NAME* and adds up to 666.
In Thess 2:3 the Beast of the End-Times is called a “*MAN* of sin or lawlessness” or very SINFUL MAN and therefore the name of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a *MAN’S* name which is also confirmed in Rev 13:17b,18 above. Therefore, the NAME of the Beast which adds up to 666 is a sinful *MAN’S NAME* and could not be the name of a woman or a city, country, computer or Satan, etc.. 666 is also identified with a MASCULINE pronoun 28 times in God’s Word which we will show later.
Rev 13:16,17: “He {The False Prophet} forced everyone… to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead. No one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {Nero Caesar??} or the number of his name {666}. The antichrist is called a “BEAST” 36 {6×6} times in Revelation and the BEAST is a much better name than antichrist since antichrist is mentioned 4 times in God’s Word {I John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John 1:7} and each time the word encompasses all who are against Christ. I JOHN 2:18: “Even now many antichrists have come.” Surely all who receive the mark of the Beast are antichrists.
666 is referred to in the MASCULINE gender 28 times and the Beast is never referred to in the feminine or neuter gender. It is interesting to note that if the Beast of the end-times will be a religious organization, country or city it would be referred to in the female or neuter gender!!! The masculine pronouns used for the Beast are “HIS” 11 times: Rev 13:1, 5,16b,18b; 14:9,11; 17:7b; 19:2; 20:4(2X) & Daniel 7:26. “HE” 10 times: Rev 13:1;6a,7a,7; 17:8b; 17:11; 2 Thess 2:6; Daniel 7:24,25 & Daniel 9:27. “HIM” 5 times: Rev 13:4b; 19:20; 2 Thess 2:6; Daniel 7:25 & Daniel 9:27. “HIMSELF” 2 times in 2 Thess 2:4.
Actually there are **7 BIBLE CLUES** that show who the BEAST of the future 1260-day Tribulation will be. By an amazing coincidence all 7 Bible clues can be applied to Nero Caesar!!
{{1}} The BEAST will be a “MAN OF SIN” or very sinful MAN as per 2 Thess 2:3 above.
{{2}} The number of this sinful man’s name is 666 as per Rev 13:16-18. The Bible was written by 40 divinely inspired Hebrews in Hebrew and Greek so then it is highly probable that this man’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew or Greek. Nero Caesar’s name adds up to 666 in Hebrew which we will show later in this Bible study.
{{3}} This sinful man whose name adds up to 666 DIED BEFORE AD 96 when Revelation was written.{See Rev 17:8 below} We will show later why Revelation was written between Sept AD 95 and Sept AD 96. Nero Caesar lived from December 15th, AD 37 to June 9th AD 68.
{{4}} This sinful man who was alive and then died before AD 96 was FATALLY WOUNDED by a sword wound to his head. Nero Caesar committed suicide with a sword wound to his head on June 9th, AD 68. {See Rev 13:3 and Rev 13:14 below}
{{5}} This very sinful man who died before AD 96 was a KING in the Roman Empire as per Daniel 7:24. There were 11 Roman Kings or Caesars who died before AD 96 including the 6th Caesar who killed Paul and Peter in AD 66; and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew. Domitian Caesar was the 12th Caesar who was alive when Revelation was written in AD 96.
{{6}} The beast is also called an 8th KING who ruled before AD 96 as one of 7 KINGS crowned by the city on 7 hills. {See Rev 17:9-11} The identity of these 8 KINGS will be discussed later in this article.
{{7}} This very sinful ROMAN KING whose name adds up to 666 and who was fatally wounded by a sword before AD 96, will “COME UP FROM THE *ABYSS* or *HELL* as per Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8. We know that the ABYSS is HELL by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31. We can be sure that Nero Caesar is now in the Abyss or Hell since he killed Paul and Peter and thousands of Christians and sent Vespasian {the father of Titus and Domitian Caesar} to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. The MAN OF SIN or Nero also killed his own mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach. Inscriptions have been found in Ephesus in which Nero is called “Almighty God” and “Savior. In Revelation 13:8a we learn that all the unsaved inhabitants of the world will worship the Beast. Nero and Caligula “abandoned all reserve” in promoting emperor worship – they were the only two Roman Caesars who demanded divine honors while still alive. Nero claimed to be the sun-god Apollo. In 2 Thess 2:4 we read that the “Man of Sin” will proclaim that he is God!
Revelation 17:8: The beast, which you saw, once was {alive}, Now {in AD 96} is not {alive} and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book life.. .. will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was {Before AD 96}, now {In AD 96} is not {Alive} and yet will come. Rev 13:14: He {The False Prophet} will order the inhabitants of the earth to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived.” Rev 13:3: One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound. but the fatal wound had been HEALED!! The whole world was astonished and followed the beast.
When I was a missionary in Israel I studied the Hebrew language. One of the first things that you learn when you study the OT Ancient Hebrew language {Which is also the language of Israel today!} is that the 22 letters of the Hebrew alphabet ALSO represent 22 numbers! When you read Psalm 119 you will note that the 176 sentences are divided into 22 sections; each section with 8 sentences or verses praising the Word of God. These 22 sections are each headed by one of the letters in the hebrew alphabet in the exact same order as shown below. The ancient Hebrew language {Which is exactly the same as the modern Hebrew language} frequently used the letters of their alphabet to designate NUMBERS IN THE OT as follows:
ALEPH=1. BETH=2. GIMEL=3. DALET=4. HE=5. VAV=6. ZAYIN=7. CHETH=8. TETH=9. YODH=10. KAPH=20. LAMED=30. MEM=40. NUN=50. SAMEKH=60. AYIN=70. PE=80. TSADHE=90. KOPH=100. RESH=200. SHIN=300. TAV=400.
NOTE: Most vowel sounds excpt “O” {VAV} are not used as letters in Hebrew. These vowel sounds are designated by dots and dashes under their *PRECEDING* consonants. In Hebrew “N” is added on the end of all foreign names ending in “O”. Therefore, the foreign name of Nero would be “NERON” in Hebrew. The name Nero Caesar would be pronounced Neron Kaysar in Hebrew. The “E” in Neron and the 2 “A” sounds in Kaysar {There is no “C” in Hebrew} are designated by dots and dashes under their preceding consonants and therefore are not letters in the 22 letter Hebrew alphabet, and so have no numerical value.
Neron in Hebrew would use 4 letters with numerical value: N-R-O-N and Kaysar in Hebrew would use 3 letters with numerical value: K-S-R. There would be a dot under the first N to show the “E” sound in NEron There would also be 2 dots under the “K” to show the “AY” sound in KAYsar and a dash under the “S” to show the “AH” sound in KaySAHr. The 4 letters with numerical value in NERON would be {SEE TABLE ABOVE} N = 50; R = RESH = 200; O = VAV = 6; and N = NUN = 50 and 50+20+6+50 equals 306. The 3 letters with numerical value in “KAYSAR would be K = KOPH = 100; S = SAMEKH = 60; and R = RESH =200 and 100+60+200 equals 360. And so the numerical value of Nero in Hebrew is 306 and the numerical value of Caesar in Hebrew is 360, and therefore the numerical value of Nero Caesar is 306+360 or exactly *666*!
There is a very interesting footnote in the revised Standard Version concerning the number 666 which states that some ancient manuscripts have the number **616** which *DOUBLY* confirms that Nero Caesar may be the Anti-Christ!! You will note that the Hebrew language adds an “N” to all foreign names eding in “O”. Now “N” or “NUN” in Hebrew has a numerical value of **50**!! and so if you decided not to add the last “N” in NERON then Nero Caesar would add up to exactly **616** in Hebrew. I think you will admit that this is an absolutely amazing coincidence!!
Any honest Hebrew language scholar will confirm that the letters of Nero Caesar’s name add up to 666 in the Hebrew language whose 22 letters are also 22 numbers as shown above. Since all of the prophecies concerning the antichrist are written in OT Hebrew {Like Daniel 7:8-25} or NT Koine Greek it would then seem logical that God would use one of these 2 Bible languages to identify the Name of the Beast whose letters add up to 666. One of the problems of doing this in NT Koine Greek is that the letters of their alphabet are not also numbers. And therefore you can only assign a numerical value of 22 to the 22nd letter, etc.. Using this formula you could not get any name to add up to over 250, let alone 666. You have the same problem with English and all other languages other than the Hebrew language!
NOTE: The 3 different Greek words used in Revelation 13:18b to arrive at the number 666 are the 3 different Greek words for 600 and 60 and 6 and not 6 + 6 + 6.
Will the 6th Caesar {Julius, Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius & the *6th* is NERO who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD *66*} be the Beast who comes up from the Abyss {Or Hell-See Rev 11:7 & Rev 17:8} in the coming Great Tribulation??
Rev 1:8,9: “I, John, your brother and companion in the suffering and kingdom and patient endurance that are ours in Jesus, was on the island of Patmos beacuse of the Word of God and the testimony of Jesus.” We know that the island of Patmos was the site of a Roman prison in the first Century and that the Apostle John was suffering in this prison because of his religious beliefs. {As per Rev 1:8,9 above} The island of Patmos is about 30 miles from the port of Ephesus in Western Turkey. History tells us that the second huge Roman persecution of Christians {The first was NERO’S PERSECUTION OF AD 64-68} occurred in the last year of the reign of Domitian Caesar which would have been from September AD 95 to September AD 96. During the last year of his rule Domitian Caesar decreed that everyone in the Roman Empire must worship idols of former Roman Caesar’s or else they would be killed or put in prison. Historical documents show us that the Apostle John lived to about AD 100 and therefore would have been alive during Domitian’s evil decree of September AD 95 to September of AD 96. Since we can be sure that the Apostle John would never worship an idol of a Roman Caesar it is then highly probable that John was put in prison on Patmos Isle sometime during Domitian’s evil decree from September AD 95 to September AD 96.
Rev 1:10,11: “On the Lord’s Day I {John} was in the spirit and I heard a loud voice {Jesus} said, ‘Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the 7 churches: to Ephesus, Smyrna, Pergamum, Thyatria, Sardis, Philadelphis and Laodicea.” The last 6 churches are all in Western Turkey within 77 miles of Ephesus. About 50 years earlier Paul had started churches in these 7 cities. Paul always had Jewish converts in the cities where he preached since he had the habit of teaching in Jewish synagogues on the Sabbath. It was then highly probable that all 7 of these chuches had Jewish believers who were very familiar with the Hebrew language and of course knew that the 22 letters of the Jewish alphabet are also 22 numbers and also remembered the first Roman persecution by Nero or the “MAN OF SIN” about 30 years earlier when Paul & Peter and thousands of Christians were martyred because of Nero Caesar. Nero also sent Vespasian, the father of Titus and Domitian; to kill the Jews and destroy their Temple. He also killed his mother and killed his pregnant wife by kicking her in the stomach. Christian writings in the early 2nd century AD show that many Christians at that time believed that Nero Caesar {Who adds up to 666 in Hebrew} would return as the BEAST of the End-Times.
Rev 13:18: “This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight {Even in AD 96}, let him {Even in AD 96} calculate the Beast, for it is a man’s number. His {Nero Caesar’s} number is 666!” And so the above Scripture absolutely guarantees that anyone with spiritual wisdom and insight could figure out who the BEAST of the End-Times would be even when Revelation was first given to the churches in AD 96, and that the number of his name adds up to 666. This would of course mean that the future BEAST must have been alive before AD 96 when this Scripture was given to the churches. Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} certainly qualified since he lived from Dec 15th AD 37 to June 9th, AD 68 when he was fatally wounded by his own SWORD.
Revelation 17:8b: “Those whose names have not been written in the Book of Life will be astonished when they see the beast {666}, because he once was {Alive–AD 37-68} now in AD 96 is not {Alive}, and yet will come.” {During the Great Tribulation} The Beast once was {Alive before AD 96} now is not {Alive in AD 96}, and will come out of the ABYSS {Or HELL} and go to his destruction.” {On the last Day-See Rev 19:20b} The fact that the ABYSS is HELL is confirmed by comparing 2 Peter 2:4 with Luke 8:30b,31: 2 Peter 2:4: “God did not spare the angels when they sinned but sent them into HELL, putting them in gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment.” Luke 8:30b,31: “Many demons {Or Hell’s Angels} had gone into him {A demon-possessed man}. And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them into the ABYSS! {Because they had already been in Hell or the ABYSS before!!} Also in Luke 16:22-24 we read that there was a rich man already in HELL at the time of Jesus. Now we can be absolutely certain that an evil Roman king from the city on 7 hills; who was fatally wounded by a sword *BEFORE* Revelation was written in AD 96; and whose name adds up to 666 is presently in this ABYSS or HELL!! All historical documents agree that Nero Caesar {The 6th Caesar who ordered the execution of Paul & Peter in AD 66 and whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th AD 68. In Revelation 13:14b we learn that the False Prophet of 666 will order the building of a statue of 666 “Who was {FATALLY-See Rev 13:3} wounded by the SWORD and yet lived!” {AGAIN} Nero Caesar {Whose name adds up to 666 in Hebrew} again qualifies for this inspired clue as to the identity of the BEAST. Nero’s 4-year Roman persecution began when he blamed the Christians for the burning of Rome in July, AD 64; and ended when Nero was fatally wounded by his own SWORD on June 9th, AD 68.
Almost all conservative Bible theologians agree that the 4th Beast of Daniel 7:7,19 is the *ROMAN* Empire. In Daniel 7:20,21 we learn that a little horn who is also called a *KING* in Daniel 7:24 willcome from this *ROMAN* Empire. Daniel 7:24b,25-27: “A *KING* {From the *ROMAN* Empire–Nero Caesar??} will arise…. He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. The saints will be handed over to him for a Time, Times and ½ a Time.” “But the court will sit, and his {666 or the Roman King or the Beast or Nero Caesar-See Rev 19:20,21 and 2 Thess 2:8} power will be taken away and completelydestroyed forever. *THEN* the sovereignty, power and greatness of the kingdoms under the whole Heaven will be handed over to the saints, the people of the Most High. His Kingdom will be an everlasting Kingdom.”
Revelation 6:7,8: When the Lamb opened the 4th seal, I heard the voice of the 4th living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death {666 who will cause the death of millions} and Hades {The False Prophet who will cause millions to go to Hades by receiving the mark of 666} was following close behind him. THEY {Nero Caesar and the False Prophet} were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. Daniel 7:8,20,24 says that an evil Roman King will conquer 3 of the 10 kingdoms {which will cover one fourth of the earth??}–Russia {Combined with former Soviet Union}, China and India cover one fourth of the earth and have over one fourth of the world’s population! These 3 kingdoms may object and become jealous of 666 and his False Prophet ruling every country in the world. It is also possible that Israel will attack Iran’s nuclear facilities which will precipitate World War III and Russia China and India will back Iran. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and about 70 % of the world’s military power and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every country in South America except Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. After appointing 10 kings who have never before ruled {See Rev 17:12,13} in these 10 nations 666 will then have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in Rome. 666 and his False prophet will then quickly gain complete control over the radio, tv, internet, newspaper, book and magazine medias. There are some who suggest that these 10 nations will all come from Europe and will not include Russia, China, India, Japan and the USA and will therefore only have about 5 % of the world’s population and about 20% of the world’s military power. Daniel 7:24 confirms that the 10 kings of a revived Roman Empire also mentioned in Rev 17:12 will help 666 rule the world. However to assume that the 10 kings of these 10 end-time kingdoms must come from Europe is a false assumption since a REVIVED Roman Empire could include the Major powers of the world of the future Great Tribulation. Revelation 13:4: Men worshipped the dragon {Satan}, and they also worshipped the beast {666 or Nero Caesar} and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can make war against him?
The next 5 paragraphs are an interesting SPECULATION about what might happen at the beginning of the 1260-day Great Tribulation and who possibly may be the future False Prophet of 666. The False Prophet is referred to as “HE” {Masculine Gender} 9 times in Rev 13:11-16 & Rev 19:20. And “HE” was a very “DECEPTIVE” False Prophet as shown in Rev 13:11-16 & Rev 19:20.
And so Nero Caesar with the help of the armies of the False Prophet {Obama??} and other nations aligned with him will conquer 1/4 of the world {See Rev 6:8; 13:4b} and then 666 will appoint 10 kings over 10 kingdoms to rule the world who have never before ruled {see Rev 17:12-14} and who will then take orders from 666 and his False Prophet from their headquarters in the evil city on 7 HILLS or Rome.{See Rev 17:9} Revelation 6:6: “A quart of wheat for a day’s wages!” This phrase can also be translated “A loaf of bread for a day’s wages.” This event will occur at the coming of the black horse rider {Rev 6:5} which will take place just before or at the beginning of the Great Tribulation. Because of the world’s present economic crises the majority of people in the 40 poorest counties now have to pay a full day’s wages for a loaf of bread as per Rev 6:6. And if the world experiences a world-wide depression this event could occur in over 100 countries. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. Many countries are far worse off than people in the USA during the Great Depression when there was 20 % unemployment. The world economic crises is rapidly accelarating. There are now 40 countries with unemployment rates of over 30 % and this should rapidly increase. And then the world will certainly be looking for an Economic Savior such as 666 and his very deceptive False Prophet. They will be looking for someone who promises CHANGE!! If the Great Tribulation would begin in the near future is there a well-known, powerful world leader that may qualify to be the deceptive False Prophet of 666 who will promise CHANGE you can believe in!! Will this powerful world leader try to bankrupt the USA which will in turn cause a worldwide depression and cause the price of a loaf of bread to cost a full day’s wages??? The False Prophet is featured in Revelation 13:11-17; 16:13 19:20 & 20:10.
Do Obama’s religious beliefs qualify him as a False Prophet?? Some insight into Obama’s “Christianity” comes from an interview he gave in 2004 to Chicago Sun-Times religion editor Cathleen Falsani for her book, “The God Factor: Inside the Spiritual Lives of Public People.” “I’m rooted in the Christian tradition,” said Obama. He then adds something most Christians will see as universalism: “I believe there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.” Jesus says of Himself, “I am the Way and the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.” That sounds exclusive, but Obama says it depends on how this verse is heard. According to Falsani, Obama thinks that “all people of faith — Christians, Jews, Muslims, animists, everyone — know the same God. “Obama doesn’t believe he, or anyone else, will go to hell. But he’s not sure he’ll be going to heaven, either.” Obama told a crowd at Hocking College that he believes the Sermon on the Mount JUSTIFIES his support for legal recognoition of same-sex unions?? Obama approves of same sex romantic and sexual relationships as do his former church, his pastor, and his former (So-called} Christian denomination?? The False Prophet should be hugely popular world wide. Interesting fact: Obama has greater worldwide popularity than any leader in modern history according to a recent poll in Reader’s Digest and was also awarded the Nobel Peace Prize even though he did nothing to deserve it. Jesus is our Messiah and the Prince of Peace and is called the LAMB 27 times in the book of Revelation. The False Prophet is someone who is like a LAMB according to Rev 13:11b. People from all over the world have already given Obama this interesting nickname “THE MESSIAH”!! The False Prophet will certainly teach that you can have your cake and eat it too, and that you will not go to hell if you receive the Mark of the Beast; allowing you to buy or sell everything. However, Rev 14:9-11; 19:20 & 20:10 confirm that he and all who receive the Mark of the Beast will be tormented day and night for ever and ever in Hell!
NOTE: There are many statues of the exact likeness of Nero Caesar including a 151 foot statue in the “Golden House” in Rome. The statue of Liberty {Without pedestal} is also exactly 151 feet high… hmmm. At the beginning of Great Tribulation the False Prophet of 666, Rev 13:14: “Will order the people of the earth to set up a statue in honor of the beast who was wounded {Fatally-Rev 13:3} by the SWORD and yet lived!” {Again} This staue of the Beast will be the “exact likeness” of Nero Caesar and could possibly be seen on World Wide TV so that people of all nations will be able to worship this statue as per Rev 13:15b. Obama’s Air Force 1 plane just had a photo op with the Statue of Liberty….Hmmm…. The face of the Statue of Liberty could easily be changed to look like Nero Caesar within a week!
666 is called a BEAST 36 {6X6 times in Revelation and the False Prophet is also called a “BEAST” in Rev 13:11. Obama has nicknamed his presidential limousine “THE BEAST”!! In Revelation 13:11 the False Prophet is called the BEAST of the {PRESENT} EARTH. Whereas all true Christians are looking forward to a new heaven and NEW EARTH as per 2 Peter 3:13: “We are looking forward to a new heaven and a NEW EARTH the home of righteousness.” {See Rev 21:1} Obama is the all-time world’s greatest champion of EARTH day and saving the PRESENT EARTH from Global Warming, Geeenhouse gasses, coal burning and carbon emissions and he may bankrupt the world in trying to achieve these goals.
In Daniel 9:27 and Matthew 24:15 666 is called an “ABOMINATION”. In a recent Middle East tour Obama declared that the USA was “NOT a Christian nation!” I would tend to agree with Obama since with dominating majorities in the House, Senate and Supreme Court Obama is rapidly and surely turning this nation into an “OBAMANATION”!! WARNING: The possible identity of the future False Prophet of 666 is just an interesting SPECULATION.
” Revelation 7:9,14,4: “There before me was a great multitutude that no one could count, from EVERY nation, tribe, people and language {The Full number of Gentiles} standing before the throne in front of the Lamb….These are they who have come out of the Great Tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.”…..”Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 {Evangelists} from the 12 tribes of Israel. It is possible that only Jews will be saved during the last months of the Great Tribulation after the Full number of Gentiles has come in.
“Babylon” is called a CITY 7 times in Revelation, chapter 18, and a SEAPORT in Rev 18:17-19. Peter was inspired to call Rome “Babylon” in I Peter 5:13. Rome is a CITY and a SEAPORT built on 7 HILLS! Babylon and Jerusalem are not seaports and are not built on 7 hills!
Rev 13:14-17: The False Prophet deceived the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was {FATALLY-Rev 13:3} wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast {666}, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast {NERO CAESAR} or the number of his name {666}. And God will supply all the needs of His faithful and corageous Tribulation saints just as He miraculously supplied all the needs of the Israelites for 40 years in the wilderness. {See Matt 6:31-34}
Rev 13:5-10: The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise his authority for 42 {30-day} months {Or 1260 days or time, times and 1/2 a time-See Dan 7:25 & Dan 12:1,2,6b,7b}….. He was given power to make war against the saints and to conquer them. And he was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the book of life belonging to the Lamb…. This call for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of the saints. Matt 24:9-12…Matt 24:29-31: Jesus says, “Then {During the 42-month Great Tribulation} you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by ALL nations because of Me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved… Immediately after the distress of those {1260} days ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light and the stars will fall from the sky.’ At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the **CLOUDS**{See Rev 1:7; Mark 14:62 & I Thess 4:16,17} of the sky, with power and great glory. And He will send His angels with a loud **TRUMPET**{See Rev 10:7; 11:15-18; I Cor 15:51,52; I Thess 4:16} call, and they will gather His elect from the 4 winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.” {Mark 13:27 adds, “From the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.”
There will be 2 Comings of Jesus on the same Last Day: The first above was *FOR* His saints and then after the Marraige Feast of the Lamb Jesus will come *WITH* His saints as per Rev 19:6-8; 11,14,19-21: “Hallelujah! For our Lord God Almighty reigns, Let us rejoice and be glad and give Him glory! For the Wedding of the Lamb has come, and His bride has made herself ready, fine linen, bright and clean was given her to wear…. I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose Rider is called Faithful and True… The armies of Heaven were following Him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean… Then I saw a beast and the kings of the earth and their armies gathered together to make war against the Rider on the horse and His army {See Rev 17:14 & Jude 14,15}. But the beast was captured, and with him the false prophet who had performed the miraculous signs and his behalf. With these signs he had deluded those who had received the mark of the beast and worshipped his image. The two of them were thrown ALIVE into the fiery lake of burning sulfur {See 2 Thess 2:8}. The rest of them were killed by the sword that came out of the mouth of the Rider on the horse, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
WILL THE CITY ON 7 HILLS OR ROME BE THE END-TIME BABYLON?? AND WHO
ARE THE 7 KINGS FROM THE CITY BUILT ON 7 HILLS??
Most Bible scholars believe that the book of First Peter was written shortly after the beginning of Nero’s Roman persecution of Christians in AD 64 because of I Peter 4:12,13 & 5:8,9. We know that Peter and his wife were living in Rome at this time. Peter was inspired to write in I Peter 5:13: “She {Peter’s wife} who is in *BABYLON* {Nickname for *ROME*!} sends you her greetings, and so does my son Mark.” Apparently some Christians including Peter were inspired to call ROME “BABYLON” after Nero’s terrible persecution of Christians starting in AD 64. This is very interesting since the evil city of the End-Times is called “BABYLON” 6 times in Revelation 14:8; 16:19; 17:5; 18:2,10,21.
Ancient Babylon Had destroyed God’s Holy Temple and God’s Holy City, Jerusalem; and killed, exiled and persecuted God’s people for 70 years. Actually all encyclopedias agree that Babylon was completely evacuated in 275 BC and completely destroyed by 141 BC. The Wikipedia encyclopedia states, “By 141 BC, when the Parthian Empire took over the region, Babylon was in complete desolation and obscurity.” The only question that remains is: Was Babylon rebuilt so that there could be people living in Babylon around AD 65 when Peter wrote 1 Peter 5:13??? Which leads us to the promises of God in Jeremiah 50:1-3,13: This is the word the Lord spoke through Jeremiah concerning Babylon..”Babylon will be captured… A nation from the north will attack her and lay waste her land. No one will live in it; both men and animals will flee away!” Jeremiah 52:52:61-64: When you get to Babylon, see that you read all these words aloud. Then say, “O Lord, you have said you will destroy this place, so that neither man nor animal will live in it; IT WILL BE DESOLATE FOREVER When you finish readiing this scroll, tie a stone to it and throw it into the Euphrates. Then say, “So will Babylon SINK TO RISE NO MORE because of the disaster I will bring upon her.” And God ALWAYS keeps His promises. And God kept His promise for about 2284 years; since Babylon is still a pile of rubble to this very day, and will remain that way until the Last Day of the Planet Earth; for God always keeps His promises. The ruins of ancient Babylon are a tourist attraction in Iraq and the Iraqi government will not allow any of the ruins to be removed or built upon. If you check out the latest Iraqi Tour Guides you will notice the folowing statement: “Today, Babylon lies COMPLETELY in ruins. A large and splendidly carved stone lion is all that remains of its former glories.”
“Babylon” {Nicknamed Rome by Peter} is a “GREAT SEAPORT” in Rev18:17-19; JUST LIKE ROME and UNLIKE Babylon whose ruins are NOW 4 miles from the very shallow Euphrates River; or Jerusalem which is 2000 to 3000 feet above sea level and 35 miles from the Mediterranean Sea. Babylon is also completely FLAT whereas the End-Time “Babylon” will be a city built on 7 Hills JUST LIKE ROME!! Rev 17:18: “The woman you saw {Rev 17:3–Who sits with the Beast with 7 heads} is the great *CITY* {Rome–nicknamed Babylon in I Peter 5:13–See Rev 17:5a} that will rule over the kings of the earth.” {During the Great Tribulation}
Rev 17:9-11: “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The 7 heads are 7 hills on which the woman {Or city of Rome} sits.” Rome is a city built on 7 HILLS!! They {The 7 Heads} are also 7 KINGS {From the city on 7 hills or Rome}. Five {Of these 7 KINGS} have fallen {Or died before AD 96}, one {the 6th KING} *IS* {Or reigning when Revelation was written in AD 96}, the other {or 7th KING} has not yet come, but when he {The 7th KING} does come, he must remain for for a little while. {Possibly the False Prophet of 666 {Or Black Horse Rider} who will be anointed by Satan just before the coming of the 8th KING {Or Pale Horse Rider} who ruled before as one of the 7 Kings} The beast {Nero Caesar who once was {Alive from
Dec 15, AD 37 to June 9, AD 68}, and NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive} is an 8th KING. He belongs to the 7 {KINGS}, because He once was {Alive-AD 37-68} NOW {In AD 96} is not {Alive}, and yet will come {1260 days before the Last Day}.”
WHO ARE OR WILL BE THE 8 KINGS OF REV 17:10,11??
ROME APPOINTED THE JEWISH KINGS AFTER THEY CONQUERED ISRAEL IN 63 BC AND THE 7 KINGS OF REV 13:1B all had “blasphemous names” so we can assume that they were evil kings who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers. And so the first 3 EVIL KINGS {Who are all called KINGS in God’s Word{See Matt 2:1; Mark 6:25,26 & Acts 12:1} were all Israeli KINGS {who had killed or persecuted Jesus and His followers} appointed by the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
AND SO THE 8 KINGS WERE OR WILL BE:
** {#1} ** Herod the Great who tried to kill the baby Jesus: Rev 12:3-5: “Another sign appeared in Heaven : An enormous red DRAGON {Or Satan-See Rev 12:9} with 7 heads {Or 7 KINGS-See Rev 17:10a}… and 7 crowns on his {7} heads {Satan crowns the 7 kings whereas 666 crowns the 10 horns}. The DRAGON {Or Satan} stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that he might devour her Child the moment he was born {Thru his first evil king or Herod the Great as per Matt 2:13b,16!!} She gave birth to a Son {Jesus} a male Child, who will rule the nations with an iron scepter!!”
**{#2}** Herod who killed John the Baptist and ridiculed and tortured Jesus {See Matt 14:1-12; Luke 23:7-11}
**{#3}** Herod Antipas who killed the Apostle James and tried to kill Peter. {See Acts 12:1-5,19-23}
**{#4}** Nero Caesar who will come again as the 8th KING who will be the BEAST of the End-Times.
**{#5}** Titus Caesar who killed thousands of Christians when he destroyed Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. Titus is also mentioned as a “Prince” in Daniel 9:26. Titus Caesar was the oldest son of Vespasian Caesar who was Caesar from Dec AD 69 to AD 79; and therefore heir and Crown *PRINCE* to the throne in Rome and was Caesar from AD 79 to AD 81.
**{#6**}** Domitian Caesar the 6th KING {“NOW IS”} was ruling in AD 96, and decreed in the last year of his reign {Sept AD 95 to Sept AD 96} that everyone must worship former Roman Caesars {Like Nero} or be killed and put in prison.{Like the Apostle John who was living in Ephesus at that time.}
**{#7}** Possibly the False Prophet of 666 who will be crowned the 7th evil King of Rome by Satan shortly before the coming of 666.
**{8th}** KING or Nero Caesar {The End-Time Beast or antichrist}; who ruled before as one of the **7 KINGS** The 4TH & 8TH KING will come up up from the Abyss or Hell exactly 1260 days before the last Day to rule from the evil city on 7 hills or Rome.
Rev 17:6: “The woman {ROME} will be drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bear testimony to Jesus.” While in Rev 13:7 we learn that the BEAST will be given “power to make war against the saints and to conquer them.” And in Rev 13:15b we read that 666 will “cause all who refuse to worship his statue to be killed.” We must therefore conclude that the evil city “on 7 hills” or Rome will be the HEADQUARTERS of 666 during the Great Tribulation.
The BEAST will very quickly conquer 1/4th of the world with many miracles {See Rev 6:8; 13:4} and will then appoint 10 Kings who have never before ruled over the 10 most powerful nations of the world {See Rev 17:12-14,17}. The following 10 powerful nations have about 50% of the world’s population and ABOUT 70% OF THE WORLD’S MILITARY POWER and certainly have the military, political and “religious” power to control and rule all the nations of the world: #1. United States #2. Russia #3. China {1.3 Billion} #4. Great Britain #5. France #6. India {1.1 Billion} #7. Germany #8. Japan #9. Brazil #10. Egypt. Brazil borders every nation in South America except for Chile. Egypt is the university, intellectual and theological center of Islam. And then 666 will have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” as per Rev 13:7b, from his headquarters in the evil city built on 7 hills or Rome.
You have ignored two important prophetic clues. In prophecy a woman represents a church, not an actual city, in this case the Roman Catholic church, and especially in Daniel, a day equals a year so the beast rules for 1260 years, not days. (Just try to do Daniels prophecy of 70 weeks in real weeks and see what I mean).
Here is a general list of prophetic symbols. Hope it helps.
Bible Prophecy Symbols
Why cloak Bible prophecies in Symbols? And Jesus said, “To you it has been given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is given in parables, that Seeing they may not see, And hearing they may not understand.” Luke 8:10. Many of the apocalyptic prophecies were given while the prophets were in a hostile foreign land. One reason God cloaked the prophecies in symbols was to protect the messages.
Animals and their Parts
• Horse = Strength and Power in Battle Job 39:19, Psalms 147:10, Proverbs 21:31
• Dragon = Satan or his agency Isaiah 27:1; 30:6, Psalms 74:13-14, Revelation 12:7-9, Ezekiel 29:3, Jeremiah 51:34
• Beast = Kingdom / government / political power Daniel 7:17, 23
• Lamb = Jesus / sacrifice John 1:29, 1Corinthians 5:7
• Lion = Jesus / Powerful King i.e. Babylon Revelation 5:4-9, Jeremiah 50:43-44, Daniel 7:4, 17, 23
• Bear = Destructive Power / Medo Persia Proverbs 28:15, 2Kings 2:23-24, Daniel 7:5
• Leopard = Greece Daniel 7:6
• Serpent = Satan Revelation 12:9; 20:2
• Tongue = Language / Speech Exodus 4:10
• Wolf = Disguised Enemies Matthew 7:15
• Dove = Holy Spirit Mark 1:10
• Ram = Medo Persia Daniel 8:20
• Goat = Greece Daniel 8:21
• Horn = King or kingdom Daniel 7:24; 8:5, 21-22, Zechariah 1:18-19, Revelation 17:12
• Wings = Speed / Protection / Deliverance Deuteronomy 28:49, Matthew 23:37
Colors
• White = Purity Revelation 12:9; 20:2
• Blue = Law Numbers 15:38-39
• Purple = Royalty Mark 15:17, Judges 8:26
• Red/Scarlet = Sin/corruption Isaiah 1:18, Nahum 2:3, Revelation 17:1-4
Metals, Elements, and Natural Objects
• Gold = Pure Character Precious and Rare Isaiah 13:12
• Silver = Pure Words & Understanding Proverbs 2:4; 3:13-14; 10:20; 25:11, Psalms 12:6
• Brass, Tin, Iron, Lead, Silver dross = Impure Character Ezekiel 22:20-21
• Water = Holy Spirit / Everlasting Life John 7:39; 4:14, Revelation 22:17, Ephesians 5:26
• Waters = Inhabited area/people, nations Revelation 17:15
• Fire = Holy Spirit Luke 3:16
• Tree = Cross; People / Nation Deuteronomy 21:22-23, Psalms 92:12; 37:35
• Seed = Descendents / Jesus Romans 9:8, Galatians 3:16
• Fruit = Works / Actions Galatians 5:22
• Fig Tree = A Nation that should bear fruit Luke 13:6-9
• Vineyard = Church that should bear fruit Luke 20:9-16
• Field = World Matthew 13:38, John 4:35
• Harvest = End of World Matthew 13:39
• Reapers = Angels Matthew 13:39
• Thorns / Thorny Ground = Cares of this life Mark 4:18-19
• Stars=Angels/messengers = Revelation 1:16, 20; 12:4, 7-9, Job 38:7
• Jordan = death Romans 6:4, Deuteronomy 4:22
• Mountains = Political or religio-political powers Isaiah 2:2-3, Jeremiah 17:3; 31:23; 51:24-25, Ezekiel 17:22-23, Daniel 2:35, 44-45
• Rock = Jesus / truth 1Corinthians 10:4, Isaiah 8:13-14, Romans 9:33, Matthew 7:24
• Sun = Jesus / the gospel Psalms 84:11, Malachi 4:2, Matthew 17:2, John 8:12; 9:5
• Winds=Strife / commotion / “winds of war” Jeremiah 25:31-33, 49:36-37; 4:11-13, Zechariah 7:14
Miscellaneous Objects
• Lamp = Word of God Psalms 119:105
• Oil = Holy Spirit Zechariah 4:2-6, Revelation 4:5
• Sword = Word of God Ephesians 6:17, Hebrews 4:12
• Bread = Word of God John 6:35, 51-52, 63
• Wine=blood/covenant / doctrines Luke 5:37
• Honey = happy life Ezekiel 20:6, Deuteronomy 8:8-9
• Clothing = Character Isaiah 64:6, Isaiah 59:6
• Crown = A Glorious Ruler or Rulership Proverbs 16:31, Isaiah 28:5, Isaiah 62:3
• Ring = Authority Genesis 41:42-43, Esther 3:10-11
• Angel = Messenger Daniel 8:16; 9:21, Luke 1:19, 26, Hebrews 1:14
• Babylon = apostasy / confusion / rebellion Genesis 10:8-10; 11:6-9, Revelation 18:2-3; 17:1-5
• Mark = Sign or seal of approval or disapproval Ezekiel 9:4, Romans 4:11, Revelation 13:17; 14:9-11; 7:2-3
• Seal = Sign or mark of approval or disapproval Romans 4:11, Revelation 7:2-3
• White Robes=Victory / righteousness Revelation 19:8; 3:5; 7:14
• Jar / Vessel=Person Jeremiah 18:1-4, 2Corinthians 4:7
• Time = 360 Day Daniel 4:16, 23, 25, 32; 7:25; Daniel 11:13 margin
• Times = 720 Days Daniel 7:25, Revelation 12:6, 14; 13:5
• Day = Literal year Ezekiel 4:6, Numbers 14:34
• Trumpet = loud warning of God’s approach Exodus 19:16-17, Joshua 6:4-5
Actions, Activities, and Physical States
• Healing = Salvation Luke 5:23-24
• Leprosy / Sickness = Sin Luke 5:23-24
• Famine = Dearth of Truth Amos 8:11
People and Body Parts
• Woman, Pure = True Church Jeremiah 6:2, 2Corinthians 11:2, Ephesians 5:23-27
• Woman, Corrupt = Apostate church Ezekiel 16:15-58; 23:2-21, Hosea 2:5; 3:1, Revelation 14:4
• Thief = Suddenness of Jesus’ coming 1Thessalonians 5:2-4, 2Peter 3:10
• Hand = Deeds / Works / Actions Ecclesiastes 9:10, Isaiah 59:6
• Forehead = Mind Deuteronomy 6:6-8, Romans 7:25, Ezekiel 3:8-9
• Feet = Your Walk / Direction Genesis 19:2, Psalms 119:105
• Eyes = Spiritual Discernment Matthew 13:10-17, 1John 2:11
• Skin = Christ’s righteousness Exodus 12:5, 1Peter 1:19, Isaiah 1:4-6
• Harlot = Apostate church/religion Isaiah 1:21-27, Jeremiah 3:1-3; 6-9
• Heads = Major powers/rulers/governments Revelation 17:3, 9-10
Also you must consider the fact that the beast may have also already existed for those 1260 years for if not we all have a very long wait for the second coming.
John said there are many anti christs among us now… He further said “they were of us but they went out from us”…This is more than likely the pharisees and the gnostics who followed Jesus for awhile..These were the antichrist of John’s day…
The identifying doctrine of antichrists is the denial that Jesus is son of god and god is father..as Did the pharisees.. The gnostics said Jesus did not come in flesh but in sprit only..This belief is also another evidence of anti christ..Muslims doctrines and practices are exactly identical to the Idumean (Descendants of Ishamel and Esau) pharisees….It is exactly the same as Islams doctrines… Islam and koran have also incorporated into their doctrines many gnostics beliefs……These are the body of antichrist today.. THEIR HEAD would of course be mohammed… But guess what, mohammed promised to return in judgement day with the name HUSSEIN…
The Head of antichrist is none other than lucifer in flesh…The false prophet are those who believe his (koran)words and pass them off as god’s words to the world.. These false prophets are also responsible for killing the masses who will not worship the allah beast..This has been happening all over the world for 1400 years….I think the IMAGE OF THE BEAST could be the return of Mohammed with the name of Hussein..
The beast’s head is wounded deadly and then healed.. This is probably about mohammed’s return from the pit..The seven kings are symbolic of these seven heads of the dragon.. It says in Rev 17-9 that the seventh king is also the eighth king…This also falls in line with the return of mohammed.. He was the seventh king…Herod was probably the 6th king…I do not know who the first five fallen kings are but are probably other fallen angels of satans crew.
If this doesnt make sense read rev 12,13,17..
Islam is the broad way built on the SAND FOUNDATION.l. This SAND FOUNDATION is stated in Rev 13-1…Rev 20-7,8 reveal that the men gathered by this beast of Rev 13 are the men who are numbered as the SAND OF THE SEA.. This is Ishamel’s desendants..
When Lucifer said he would exalt his throne above the STARS OF GOD.. He knew full well he would say Ishmael was the chosen line above Isaac’s line
If you don’t the teachings of Jesus, then you are an anti Christ.
Rev. 12-9..And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. These angels are the SEVEN HEADS…
The above verse not only reveals that the serpent in the Garden was/is the great dragon of Rev 13 and 17..It also shows that satan and his angels were cast out….. Satan is the great dragon and his fallen angels are the seven heads… This coincides with the rev 17-9, 10…And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. THESE seven heads are the seven fallen angels incorporated into ancient astrology lore… Astrology was part of the wisdom of the tree in gensis….Astrology doctrine was satan’s way of causing men to look up and see the sun, moon and stars and be driven to worship the host of heaven.. strickly forbidden in Deut 4-19..This was satan’s version of the creation…all delusional but it worked and caused men to turn from the true god to pagan gods..BARACKIEL was the chief angel who taught men astrology… His name merans LIGHTNING.. When Jesus said “I beheld satan as LIGHTING (barack) fall from heaven,” he knew exactly what he was saying…
I think the Barack has returned to tempt humanity again.. This time with Islam , same lies, just a different name..
Hello Marriane,
My name is Chris, Im from Australia and recently spent some some in Malaysia on a short term missions trip.
I looked up your article because as we where doing some intercessory prayer for each other, in the church I was at. I was waiting on the Lord and I wrote down the words Teeth, Lion, Eagle, Wings, teeth and then the verse Dan 7:20. These words just came into my mind, so by faith I wrote them down. The first thing I read in Dan 7:20 (i did not know what was in it) was a lion with the wings of an eagle. Then I read about the fourth beast and it had TEETH of iron.
So very excited I kept on reading and go to verse 20 and as I read it I interpreted it as the boastful beast being Islam, and in that church and country the beast was seemingly defeating the saints. But I told them that this was given to me to remind them and encourage them that God will come through for them- and that they should keep fighting.
So I read your paper, it makes alot of sense and is interesting and seems true, but i still cant understand it, and would like too. is there a simplified version of evidence that islam is the fourth beast?
and is the fourth beast the most powerful one? evil one i mean
thanks
dear chris
I am sorry you had trouble understanding my post. It is good to get feedback.
“Teeth, Lion, Eagle, Wings, teeth” represent ancient Babylon revived. Each ancient empire was represented by an animal in Daniel. Today countries surrounding Iraq- Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iran, Turkey….represent Babylon….and they are all Islamic.
Did you read the actual pdf file that was linked here? This is the actual full length study.
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
here are some other articles:
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/4-horses-%E2%80%93-4-horns-%E2%80%93-4-beasts-of-zechariah-and-revelation/
In general, Israel has had the same satanic enemies for 4000 years, so the beast will not be from countries that do not care about Israel. Only the Islamic, Arabic countries want to destroy Israel and its Messiah, which is the main goal of the beast.
To other countries, Israel is just a country that the Arab states complain about.
The conflict in the middle east over Israel trying to keep its property , and protect itself from terrorists, who now want Israel’s land, is what is going to start the war of Armageddon. They will be invading Israel to destroy it, and its people, and then take it over.
Hi Marianne you are slightly mistaken about Armageddon. The armies gather there to make war against God. After seven years of war, famine, plagues and pestilence the world gathers to make war with the Lamb, but he slays them in an instant thus ending human conflict.
Rev 16:12-16
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
Rev 17:14
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
God Bless.
I think it’s a complete fallacy to assume the prophecy of Rev. 17 is talking about islam.
1. She is drunk with blood of the saints. This can not be attributed to islam, which started in the 7th century, but can be applied to both Rome and the Catholic church a true lasting legacy of the roman empire.
2. When the prophecy was given only Rome was known as the city on seven hills.
3. Psalm 83 hints at the possible destruction of Israel’s nearest neighbors in the end times
4. Ezk 38-39 talks about the destruction Gog and Magog and their coalition of Islamic countries Gomer, Put, Persia, Togarmah, etc.
Based on these events I think the Islamic world is going to be crushed along with a part of Europe and/or Russia. I personally believe these events in addition to the rapture will provide the political, military and economic conditions that give rise to the “little horn”.
Especially, since the first thing he does politically is guarantee the security of Israel and allows them to rebuild the temple and re-institute the sacral system. For this to happen the Islamic world must be to weak to fight the Anti-Christ or raise a fuss over removing the dome of the rock. It may get destroyed in the earthquake that destroys the invading Gog army.
Either way the temple is rebuilt under the safety and security provided by the anti-christ and there is little more mention of Islamic countries until Armageddon when “all” the nations are gathered for war.
In reading the responses, I am reminded of the comment that if something walls like a duck, quacks like a duck, and maybe even looks like a duck, there will be those who observe this creature saying that it is probably not a duck, even though the evidence says otherwise. The same is true of the anti-Christ. The Bible is very clear on what this power is, how and when it came into power, how long it would last, and the very specific characteristics of this persecuting power. Ask any good Seventh Day Adventist scholar and you will get thr real skinny. Anything else, in my humble estimation, is pure speculation. The books of Daniel and Revelation are full of both fulfilled and to be fulfilled prophecies-all of which are explained within the Bible. WHO, OR WHAT, IS THE ANTICHRIST? EVIL ALLIANCE, OR SINISTER INDIVIDUAL? SOME SAY HIS APPEARANCE IS STILL IN THE FUTURE. OTHERS SAY HE APPEARED LONG AGO IN THE DAYS OF ANCIENT ROME. BUT THE BIBLE INDICATES THAT HE IS ALIVE TODAY! THE BIBLE PROPHECIES TEACH THIS ANTICHRIST POWER WILL PLAY A CRUCIAL ROLE IN THE FINAL EVENTS OF EARTH’S HISTORY. DO YOU KNOW WHO HE IS? ARE YOU SURE? YOU NEED TO BE, FOR YOU CAN’T UNDERSTAND LAST-DAY EVENTS UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THIS EVIL POWER. BE PREPARED FOR ONE OF THE MOST INTRIGUING STUDY GUIDES YET!
THIS STUDY, BASED ON DANIEL CHAPTER 7, CLEARLY AND UNMISTAKABLY IDENTIFIES THE ANTICHRIST. BUT IT IS ONLY AN INTRODUCTION. WHAT YOU DISCOVER TODAY MAY DISPLEASE OR SADDEN YOU, BUT PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE PROPHECY OF DANIEL CHAPTER 7 COMES FROM JESUS, WHO LOVES YOU. PRAY FOR GOD’S GUIDANCE AS YOU DELVE INTO THIS URGENT SUBJECT. BE SURE TO READ DANIEL 7.
1. AS THE CHAPTER BEGINS, DANIEL SEES FOUR BEASTS COMING UP OUT OF THE SEA. IN PROPHECY, WHAT DOES A BEAST REPRESENT? WHAT DOES THE SEA REPRESENT?
“THE FOURTH BEAST SHALL BE THE FOURTH KINGDOM UPON THE EARTH.” DANIEL 7:23. “THE WATERS … ARE PEOPLES, AND MULTITUDES, AND NATIONS, AND TONGUES.” REVELATION 17:15.
ANSWER: BEASTS REPRESENT KINGDOMS OR NATIONS. WATER REPRESENTS MULTITUDES OF PEOPLE OR LARGE POPULATIONS.
2. THE FOUR BEASTS OF DANIEL 7 REPRESENT THE FOUR WORLD KINGDOMS (VERSES 17, 18). BABYLON, THE FIRST KINGDOM (DANIEL 2:38, 39), IS REPRESENTED AS A LION IN DANIEL 7:4. (SEE ALSO JEREMIAH 4:7; 50:17, 43, 44 FOR BABYLON PICTURED AS A LION ELSEWHERE.) WHAT DO THE “EAGLE’S WINGS” MEAN? WHAT DO THE “FOUR WINDS” OF VERSE 2 REPRESENT?
“THE LORD SHALL BRING A NATION AGAINST THEE … AS SWIFT AS THE EAGLE FLIETH.” DEUTERONOMY 28:49. “THUS SAITH THE LORD OF HOSTS, … A GREAT WHIRLWIND SHALL BE RAISED UP FROM THE COASTS OF THE EARTH. AND THE SLAIN OF THE LORD SHALL BE AT THAT DAY FROM ONE END OF THE EARTH EVEN UNTO THE OTHER END OF THE EARTH.” JEREMIAH 25:32, 33.
ANSWER: THE WINGS OF EAGLES REPRESENT SPEED. (SEE ALSO JEREMIAH 4:13; HABAKKUK 1:6-9.) WINDS REPRESENT STRIFE, COMMOTION, AND DESTRUCTION. (SEE ALSO REVELATION 7:1-3.)
3. WHAT KINGDOM DOES THE BEAR REPRESENT (DANIEL 7:5)? WHAT DO THE THREE RIBS IN ITS MOUTH SYMBOLIZE?
ANSWER: READ DANIEL 8. NOTICE THAT THE BEASTS IN CHAPTER 8 PARALLEL THOSE IN CHAPTER 7. DANIEL 8:20 SPECIFICALLY NAMES MEDO-PERSIA AS THE KINGDOM THAT PRECEDES THE ROUGH GOAT, OR GREECE, OF VERSE 21. IT IS THE SECOND WORLD KINGDOM–THE SAME POWER AS THE BEAR OF DANIEL 7. THE EMPIRE WAS MADE UP OF TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE. THE MEDES CAME UP FIRST (REPRESENTED IN DANIEL 7:5 BY THE BEAR COMING UP ON ONE SIDE), BUT THE PERSIANS EVENTUALLY BECAME STRONGER (REPRESENTED IN DANIEL 8:3 BY THE RAM’S SECOND HORN WHICH GREW “HIGHER,” OR TALLER). THE THREE RIBS REPRESENT THE THREE PRINCIPAL POWERS CONQUERED BY MEDO-PERSIA: LYDIA, BABYLON, AND EGYPT.
4. GREECE, THE THIRD KINGDOM (DANIEL 8:21), IS REPRESENTED BY A LEOPARD WITH FOUR WINGS AND FOUR HEADS (DANIEL 7:6). WHAT DO THE HEADS REPRESENT? WHAT DO THE FOUR WINGS REPRESENT?
ANSWER: THE FOUR HEADS REPRESENT THE FOUR KINGDOMS INTO WHICH THE EMPIRE OF ALEXANDER THE GREAT WAS DIVIDED WHEN HE DIED. THE FOUR GENERALS WHO HEADED THESE AREAS WERE: CASSANDER, LYSIMACHUS, PTOLEMY, AND SELEUCUS. THE FOUR WINGS (INSTEAD OF TWO LIKE THE LION) REPRESENT SUPER-SPEED, WHICH WAS TRUE OF ALEXANDER’S CONQUESTS (JEREMIAH 4:11-13).
5. THE ROMAN EMPIRE, THE FOURTH WORLD KINGDOM, IS REPRESENTED BY A HORRIBLE MONSTER WITH IRON TEETH AND 10 HORNS (DANIEL 7:7). WHAT DO THE HORNS REPRESENT?
ANSWER: THE 10 HORNS REPRESENT THE 10 KINGS OR KINGDOMS INTO WHICH PAGAN ROME WAS EVENTUALLY SPLIT (DANIEL 7:24). (THESE 10 KINGDOMS ARE THE SAME AS THE 10 TOES OF THE IMAGE DESCRIBED IN DANIEL 2:41-44.) ROVING BARBARIAN TRIBES SWEPT IN UPON THE ROMAN EMPIRE AND CARVED OUT LAND NICHES FOR THEIR PEOPLE. SEVEN OF THOSE 10 TRIBES DEVELOPED INTO THE COUNTRIES OF MODERN WESTERN EUROPE, WHILE THREE WERE UPROOTED AND DESTROYED. THE NEXT SECTION WILL DISCUSS THOSE KINGDOMS THAT WERE ROOTED UP.
VISIGOTHS–SPAIN
ANGLO-SAXONS–ENGLAND
FRANKS–FRANCE
ALEMANI–GERMANY
BURGUNDIANS–SWITZERLAND
LOMBARDS–ITALY
SUEVI–PORTUGAL
HERULI–ROOTED UP
OSTROGOTHS–ROOTED UP
VANDALS–ROOTED UP
6. IN THE DANIEL 7 PROPHECY, WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?
“I CONSIDERED THE HORNS, AND, BEHOLD, THERE CAME UP AMONG THEM ANOTHER LITTLE HORN, BEFORE WHOM THERE WERE THREE OF THE FIRST HORNS PLUCKED UP BY THE ROOTS: AND, BEHOLD, IN THIS HORN WERE EYES LIKE THE EYES OF MAN, AND A MOUTH SPEAKING GREAT THINGS.” DANIEL 7:8.
ANSWER: THE “LITTLE HORN” POWER APPEARS NEXT. WE MUST IDENTIFY IT CAREFULLY BECAUSE GOD TAKES MORE SPACE DESCRIBING IT THAN THE OTHER FOUR KINGDOMS COMBINED. WHY? BECAUSE THE BIBLICAL CHARACTERISTICS IDENTIFY IT AS THE ANTICHRIST OF PROPHECY AND HISTORY. THERE MUST BE NO MISTAKE IN MAKING THIS IDENTIFICATION.
7. ARE THERE CLEAR POINTS OF IDENTIFICATION?
ANSWER: YES, GOD GIVES US NINE CHARACTERISTICS OF ANTICHRIST IN DANIEL 7 SO WE CAN BE CERTAIN OF HIS IDENTITY. AND EVEN THOUGH SOME MAY FIND THESE TRUTHS FROM GOD’S WORD PAINFUL, WE MUST BE HONEST ENOUGH TO ACCEPT THEM AS HIS REVEALED WILL. NOW LET’S DISCOVER WHAT JESUS’ NINE POINTS ARE:
A. THE “LITTLE HORN” OR KINGDOM “CAME UP AMONG THEM”–THE 10 HORNS WHICH WERE THE KINGDOMS OF WESTERN EUROPE (DANIEL 7:8). SO IT WOULD BE A LITTLE KINGDOM SOMEWHERE IN WESTERN EUROPE.
B. IT WOULD HAVE A MAN AT ITS HEAD WHO COULD SPEAK FOR IT (DANIEL 7:8).
C. IT WOULD PLUCK UP OR UPROOT THREE KINGDOMS (DANIEL 7:8).
D. IT WOULD BE “DIVERSE” OR DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER 10 KINGDOMS (DANIEL 7:24).
E. IT WOULD MAKE WAR WITH AND “WEAR OUT” OR PERSECUTE THE SAINTS (DANIEL 7:21, 25).
F. IT WOULD EMERGE FROM THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE–THE FOURTH WORLD KINGDOM (DANIEL 7:7, 8).
G. GOD’S PEOPLE (THE SAINTS) WOULD “BE GIVEN INTO HIS HAND” FOR “A TIME AND TIMES AND THE DIVIDING OF TIME” (DANIEL 7:25).
H. IT WOULD “SPEAK GREAT WORDS AGAINST” OR BLASPHEME GOD (DANIEL 7:25). IN REVELATION 13:5, THE BIBLE SAYS THE SAME POWER SPEAKS “GREAT THINGS AND BLASPHEMIES.”
I. IT WOULD “THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS.” DANIEL 7:25.
DON’T FORGET–ALL THESE IDENTIFICATION POINTS COME DIRECTLY FROM THE BIBLE. THEY ARE NOT SOME HUMAN OPINION OR SPECULATION. HISTORIANS COULD TELL YOU QUICKLY WHAT POWER IS BEING DESCRIBED. THESE POINTS CAN FIT ONLY ONE POWER–THE PAPACY. BUT IN ORDER TO BE CERTAIN, LET US CAREFULLY EXAMINE ALL NINE POINTS, ONE BY ONE. THERE MUST BE NO ROOM LEFT FOR DOUBT.
8. DOES THE PAPACY FIT THESE POINTS?
ANSWER: YES, IT FITS EVERY POINT PERFECTLY. SEE ITEMS A THROUGH H BELOW.
A. IT “CAME UP AMONG” THE 10 KINGDOMS OF WESTERN EUROPE.
THE GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION OF THE PAPAL POWER WAS IN ROME, ITALY–THE VERY HEART OF THE TERRITORY OF WESTERN EUROPE.
B. IT WOULD HAVE A MAN AT ITS HEAD WHO SPEAKS FOR IT.
THE PAPACY MEETS THIS IDENTIFYING MARK BECAUSE IT DOES HAVE ONE MAN AT THE HEAD (THE POPE) WHO SPEAKS FOR IT.
C. IT WOULD PLUCK UP OR UPROOT THREE KINGDOMS.
THE EMPERORS OF WESTERN EUROPE WERE LARGELY CATHOLIC AND SUPPORTED THE PAPACY IN ITS GROWTH AND AUTHORITY. THREE ARIAN KINGDOMS, HOWEVER, DID NOT SUPPORT THE PAPACY–THE VANDALS, HERULI, AND OSTROGOTHS. SO THE CATHOLIC EMPERORS DECIDED THEY MUST BE SUBDUED OR DESTROYED. HERE IS HOW DR. MERVYN MAXWELL, A THEOLOGIAN AND HISTORIAN, DESCRIBED THE RESULTS IN VOLUME 1, PAGE 129, OF HIS BOOK GOD CARES: “THE CATHOLIC EMPEROR ZENO (474-491) ARRANGED A TREATY WITH THE OSTROGOTHS IN 487 WHICH RESULTED IN THE ERADICATION OF THE KINGDOM OF THE ARIAN HERULS IN 493. AND THE CATHOLIC EMPEROR JUSTINIAN (527-565) EXTERMINATED THE ARIAN VANDALS IN 534 AND SIGNIFICANTLY BROKE THE POWER OF THE ARIAN OSTROGOTHS IN 538. THUS WERE DANIEL’S THREE HORNS –THE HERULS, THE VANDALS, AND THE OSTROGOTHS–‘PLUCKED UP BY THE ROOTS.’ ” IT IS NOT DIFFICULT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THE PAPACY FITS THIS POINT.
D. IT WOULD BE “DIVERSE” OR DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHER KINGDOMS.
THE PAPACY CLEARLY FITS THIS DESCRIPTION, ALSO. IT CAME ON THE SCENE AS A RELIGIOUS POWER AND WAS TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE SECULAR NATURE OF THE OTHER 10 KINGDOMS.
E. IT WOULD MAKE WAR WITH AND PERSECUTE THE SAINTS.
THAT THE CHURCH DID PERSECUTE IS A WELL-KNOWN FACT. THE PAPACY CLEARLY ADMITS DOING SO. MUCH SUPPORTIVE EVIDENCE EXISTS. EVEN CONSERVATIVE HISTORIANS CLAIM THE CHURCH PROBABLY DESTROYED AT LEAST 50 MILLION PEOPLE OVER MATTERS OF RELIGIOUS CONVICTION. WE WILL QUOTE HERE FROM TWO SOURCES:
1. “THAT THE CHURCH OF ROME HAS SHED MORE INNOCENT BLOOD THAN ANY OTHER INSTITUTION THAT HAS EVER EXISTED AMONG MANKIND, WILL BE QUESTIONED BY NO PROTESTANT WHO HAS A COMPETENT KNOWLEDGE OF HISTORY. 1
2. IN THE HISTORY OF THE INQUISITION OF SPAIN, D. IVAN ANTONIO LLORENTE PROVIDES THESE FIGURES FROM THE SPANISH INQUISITION ALONE:
31,912 PERSONS WERE CONDEMNED AND PERISHED IN THE FLAMES.
241,450 PERSONS WERE CONDEMNED TO SEVERE PENALTIES.
F. IT WOULD EMERGE FROM THE FOURTH KINGDOM OF IRON–THE PAGAN ROMAN EMPIRE.
WE ARE QUOTING TWO AUTHORITIES ON THIS POINT:
1. “THE MIGHTY CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS LITTLE MORE THAN THE ROMAN EMPIRE BAPTISED … THE VERY CAPITAL OF THE OLD ROMAN EMPIRE BECAME THE CAPITAL OF THE CHRISTIAN EMPIRE. THE OFFICE OF PONTIFEX MAXIMUS WAS CONTINUED IN THAT OF THE POPE.” 2
2. “WHATEVER ROMAN ELEMENTS THE BARBARIANS AND ARIANS LEFT … [CAME] UNDER THE PROTECTION OF THE BISHOP OF ROME, WHO WAS THE CHIEF PERSON THERE AFTER THE EMPEROR’S DISAPPEARANCE. THE ROMAN CHURCH IN THIS WAY PRIVILY PUSHED ITSELF INTO THE PLACE OF THE ROMAN WORLD-EMPIRE, OF WHICH IT IS THE ACTUAL CONTINUATION.” 3 SO, ONCE AGAIN, THE POINT FITS THE PAPACY.
G. GOD’S PEOPLE (THE SAINTS) WOULD “BE GIVEN INTO HIS HAND” FOR “A TIME AND TIMES AND THE DIVIDING OF TIME.” DANIEL 7:25.
SEVERAL THINGS NEED CLARIFICATION IN CONNECTION WITH THIS POINT:
1. A TIME IS A YEAR, TIMES IS TWO YEARS, AND THE DIVIDING OF TIME IS A HALF-YEAR. THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE TRANSLATES IT: “THREE AND ONE-HALF YEARS.” 4
2. THIS SAME TIME PERIOD IS MENTIONED SEVEN TIMES (DANIEL 7:25; 12:7; REVELATION 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14; 13:5) IN THE BOOKS OF DANIEL AND REVELATION: THREE TIMES AS A TIME, TIMES, AND HALF A TIME; TWICE AS 42 MONTHS; AND TWICE AS 1,260 DAYS. BASED ON THE 30-DAY CALENDAR USED BY THE JEWS, THESE TIME PERIODS ARE ALL THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME:
3 1/2 YEARS = 42 MONTHS = 1,260 DAYS.
3. ONE PROPHETIC DAY EQUALS ONE LITERAL YEAR (EZEKIEL 4:6; NUMBERS 14:34).
4. THUS, THE LITTLE HORN (ANTICHRIST) WAS TO HAVE POWER OVER THE SAINTS FOR 1,260 PROPHETIC DAYS OR 1,260 LITERAL YEARS.
5. THE RULE OF THE PAPACY BEGAN IN A.D. 538, WHEN THE LAST OF THE THREE OPPOSING ARIAN KINGDOMS WAS UPROOTED. ITS RULE CONTINUED UNTIL 1798 WHEN NAPOLEON’S GENERAL, BERTHIER, TOOK THE POPE CAPTIVE WITH HOPES OF DESTROYING BOTH POPE PIUS VI AND THE POLITICAL, SECULAR POWER OF THE PAPACY. THIS PERIOD OF TIME IS AN EXACT FULFILLMENT OF THE 1,260-YEAR PROPHECY. THE BLOW WAS A DEADLY WOUND FOR THE PAPACY, BUT THAT WOUND BEGAN TO HEAL AND CONTINUES HEALING TODAY.
6. THIS SAME PERIOD OF PERSECUTION IS MENTIONED IN MATTHEW 24:21 AS THE WORST PERIOD OF PERSECUTION GOD’S PEOPLE WILL EVER EXPERIENCE. VERSE 22 TELLS US IT WAS SO DEVASTATING THAT NOT ONE SOUL WOULD HAVE SURVIVED IF GOD HAD NOT SHORTENED IT. BUT GOD DID SHORTEN IT. THE PERSECUTION ENDED LONG BEFORE THE POPE WAS TAKEN CAPTIVE IN 1798. IT IS PLAIN TO SEE THAT THIS POINT, LIKEWISE, FITS THE PAPACY.
H. IT WOULD SPEAK “GREAT WORDS” OF BLASPHEMY “AGAINST THE MOST HIGH [GOD].”
BLASPHEMY HAS TWO DEFINITIONS IN SCRIPTURE:
1. CLAIMING TO FORGIVE SINS (LUKE 5:21).
2. CLAIMING TO BE GOD (JOHN 10:33).
DOES THIS POINT FIT THE PAPACY? YES! LET’S FIRST LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE FOR IT CLAIMING TO FORGIVE SINS: “DOES THE PRIEST TRULY FORGIVE THE SINS, OR DOES HE ONLY DECLARE THAT THEY ARE REMITTED? THE PRIEST DOES REALLY AND TRULY FORGIVE THE SINS IN VIRTUE OF THE POWER GIVEN TO HIM BY CHRIST.” 5 THE PAPACY FURTHER UNDERMINES JESUS BY SETTING UP A SYSTEM OF CONFESSION TO AN EARTHLY PRIEST, THUS BYPASSING JESUS, OUR HIGH PRIEST (HEBREWS 3:1; 8:1, 2) AND ONLY MEDIATOR (1 TIMOTHY 2:5).
NEXT CONSIDER THE EVIDENCE FOR IT CLAIMING TO BE GOD: “WE [THE POPES] HOLD UPON THIS EARTH THE PLACE OF GOD ALMIGHTY.” 6 HERE IS ANOTHER: “THE POPE IS NOT ONLY THE REPRESENTATIVE OF JESUS CHRIST, BUT HE IS JESUS CHRIST, HIMSELF, HIDDEN UNDER THE VEIL OF FLESH.” 7
IT?S OBVIOUS THIS POINT, LIKEWISE, FITS THE PAPACY.
I. IT WOULD “THINK TO CHANGE TIMES AND LAWS.”
IN A FUTURE STUDY WE WILL DEAL WITH THE “TIMES” OF THIS POINT. IT IS A MAJOR TOPIC AND NEEDS SEPARATE CONSIDERATION. BUT WHAT ABOUT CHANGING THE “LAWS”? THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE TRANSLATES “LAWS” AS “THE LAW.” THE REFERENCE IS TO CHANGING GOD’S LAW. OF COURSE, NO ONE CAN REALLY CHANGE IT, BUT HAS THE PAPACY ATTEMPTED TO DO SO? THE ANSWER IS “YES.”
IN ITS CATECHISMS, THE PAPACY HAS OMITTED THE SECOND COMMANDMENT AGAINST VENERATION OF IMAGES AND HAS SHORTENED THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT FROM 94 WORDS TO EIGHT AND DIVIDED THE TENTH COMMANDMENT INTO TWO COMMANDMENTS. (CHECK THIS FOR YOURSELF. COMPARE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS IN ANY CATHOLIC CATECHISM WITH GOD’S LIST OF THE COMMANDMENTS IN EXODUS 20:3-17.) THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE LITTLE HORN POWER OF DANIEL CHAPTER 7 (THE ANTICHRIST) IS THE PAPACY. NO OTHER ORGANIZATION COULD POSSIBLY FIT THESE NINE POINTS. AND INCIDENTALLY, THIS IS NO NEW TEACHING. EVERY REFORMER, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, SPOKE OF THE PAPACY AS ANTICHRIST. 8
WORDS OF CARE AND CONCERN
LEST SOME SHOULD THINK THAT I AM ATTACKING FELLOW CHRISTIANS BY IDENTIFYING THIS LITTLE-HORN POWER, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE PROPHECY IS AIMED AT A SYSTEM AND NOT INDIVIDUALS. THERE ARE SINCERE, DEVOUT CHRISTIANS IN ALL CHURCHES, INCLUDING THE CATHOLIC FAITH. DANIEL CHAPTER 7 IS SIMPLY A MESSAGE OF JUDGMENT AND CORRECTION UPON A LARGE RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION WHICH COMPROMISED WITH PAGANISM, LIKE SO MANY OTHER CHURCHES THAT AROSE AFTER HER.
PROPHECY REVEALS FAULTS OF ALL FAITHS
OTHER PROPHECIES POINT OUT THE FAULTS OF PROTESTANT AND JEWISH FAITHS. GOD HAS TRUE PEOPLE IN ALL RELIGIONS. HIS TRUE PEOPLE (NO MATTER WHAT THEIR FAITH) WILL ALWAYS HUMBLY ACCEPT THE CORRECTION OF THE LORD AND WILL NOT SHUT THEIR EARS AND HEARTS AGAINST HIM BY SELF-DEFENSIVENESS. WE SHOULD BE VERY THANKFUL THAT GOD’S WORD SPEAKS WITH IMPARTIAL HONESTY ON EVERY SUBJECT.
1 W. E. H. LECKY, HISTORY OF THE RISE AND INFLUENCE OF THE SPIRIT OF RATIONALISM IN EUROPE, VOLUME 2, P. 40.
22 ALEXANDER CLARENCE FLICK, THE RISE OF THE MEDIEVAL CHURCH, PP. 148, 149.
3 ADOLF HARNACK, WHAT IS CHRISTIANITY? (NEW YORK: PUTNAM, SECOND EDITION, REVISED, 1901), PP. 269, 270.
4 THE AMPLIFIED BIBLE, ZONDERVAN PUBLISHING HOUSE, GRAND RAPIDS, MICHIGAN 1962.
5 JOSEPH DEHARBE, S.J., A COMPLETE CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC RELIGION (NEW YORK: SCHWARTZ, KIRWIN & FAUSS, 1924), P. 279.
6 POPE LEO XIII, ENCYCLICAL LETTER “THE REUNION OF CHRISTENDOM” (DATED JUNE 20, 1894) TRANS. IN THE GREAT ENCYCLICAL LETTERS OF POPE LEO XIII (NEW YORK: BENZIGER, 1903), P. 304.
7 CATHOLIC NATIONAL, JULY 1895.
8 R. ALLEN ANDERSON, UNFOLDING THE REVELATION, P. 137.
9. WASN’T DANIEL TOLD TO SEAL UP HIS BOOK UNTIL “THE TIME OF THE END”? (DANIEL 12:4) WHEN WILL DANIEL’S PROPHECIES BE OPENED TO OUR UNDERSTANDING?
ANSWER: IN DANIEL 12:4, THE PROPHET WAS TOLD TO SEAL PARTS OF THE BOOK TILL “THE TIME OF THE END.” IN VERSE 6 AN ANGELIC VOICE ASKED, “HOW LONG SHALL IT BE TO THE END OF THESE WONDERS?” VERSE 7 SAYS, “IT SHALL BE FOR A TIME, TIMES, AND AN HALF.” THE ANGEL ASSURED DANIEL THAT THE SECTION OF THE BOOK DEALING WITH END-TIME PROPHECIES WOULD BE OPENED AFTER THE END OF THE 1260-YEAR PERIOD OF PAPAL CONTROL WHICH WAS 1798. SO THE TIME OF THE END BEGAN IN THE YEAR 1798. OBVIOUSLY, THE BOOK OF DANIEL CONTAINS CRUCIAL MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN FOR US TODAY. WE ABSOLUTELY MUST UNDERSTAND IT.
10. MANY CHRISTIANS TODAY HAVE BEEN TRAGICALLY MISINFORMED REGARDING THE ANTICHRIST. TO BELIEVE AN UNTRUTH ABOUT THE ANTICHRIST COULD EASILY CAUSE A PERSON TO BE DECEIVED AND LOST. WHAT SHOULD A PERSON DO WHEN NEW BIBLE TEACHINGS ARE ENCOUNTERED?
“THESE WERE MORE NOBLE THAN THOSE IN THESSALONICA, IN THAT THEY RECEIVED THE WORD WITH ALL READINESS OF MIND, AND SEARCHED THE SCRIPTURES DAILY, WHETHER THOSE THINGS WERE SO.” ACTS 17:11.
ANSWER: WHEN A NEW BIBLE TEACHING IS ENCOUNTERED, THE ONLY SAFE PROCEDURE IS TO COMPARE IT CAREFULLY WITH SCRIPTURE TO SEE IF IT IS IN HARMONY WITH GOD’S WORD.
11. I AM WILLING TO FOLLOW WHERE JESUS LEADS, EVEN THOUGH IT MAY BE PAINFUL?
CONCLUDING REMARKS
GOD HAS GIVEN THESE PROPHECIES TO:
A. REVEAL EARTH’S CLOSING EVENTS.
B. IDENTIFY THE PARTICIPANTS IN THE FINAL PHASE OF THE BATTLE BETWEEN JESUS AND SATAN.
C. CLEARLY REVEAL SATAN’S SINISTER PLANS TO ENSNARE AND DESTROY US ALL.
D. PRESENT THE SECURITY AND LOVE OF THE JUDGMENT; GOD’S SAINTS WILL BE VINDICATED!
E. UPLIFT JESUS–HIS SALVATION, LOVE, POWER, MERCY, AND JUSTICE.
MAJOR PARTICIPANTS WILL APPEAR REPEATEDLY
KEY PARTICIPANTS IN THE CLOSING WAR BETWEEN JESUS AND SATAN WILL APPEAR REPEATEDLY IN THESE PROPHECIES. THESE INCLUDE: SATAN, JESUS, THE UNITED STATES, THE PAPACY, PROTESTANTISM, AND SPIRITISM. JESUS REPEATS AND EXPANDS HIS MESSAGES FROM THE PROPHETS TO MAKE CERTAIN HIS WARNINGS OF LOVE AND PROTECTION COME THROUGH WITH CLARITY AND CERTAINTY.
THOUGHT QUESTIONS
1. I ALWAYS THOUGHT ANTICHRIST WAS A PERSON RATHER THAN AN ORGANIZATION. AM I WRONG? (DANIEL 7:8 )
ANTICHRIST IS AN ORGANIZATION–THE PAPACY. THE WORDS “EYES OF MAN” IN DANIEL 7:8, HOWEVER, DO POINT TO A LEADER. REVELATION 13:18 SPEAKS OF MAN WITH A NUMBER BEING INVOLVED. IN DANIEL CHAPTER 8, GREECE IS REPRESENTED BY A GOAT AND ITS LEADER, ALEXANDER THE GREAT, IS SYMBOLIZED BY A HORN. THE SAME IS TRUE OF ANTICHRIST. THE ORGANIZATION IS THE PAPACY. THE POPE IN OFFICE IS ITS REPRESENTATIVE. THE PROPHECY OF DANIEL CHAPTER 7 IS NOT SAYING THAT POPES ARE EVIL AND THAT CATHOLICS ARE NOT CHRISTIANS. THERE ARE MANY WARM, LOVING CATHOLIC CHRISTIANS. THE SYSTEM, HOWEVER, IS CALLED ANTICHRIST BECAUSE IT HAS USURPED JESUS’ AUTHORITY AND ATTEMPTED TO CHANGE HIS LAW.
2. DO YOU THINK IT IS WISE OR CHRISTIAN TO PASS LAWS TO ENFORCE CHRISTIANITY? (JOSHUA 24:15 )
NO. THE BIBLE IS CLEAR THAT ALL SHOULD HAVE FREEDOM TO CHOOSE THE DIRECTION THEY WISH TO GO IN MATTERS OF CONSCIENCE (JOSHUA 24:15)–EVEN IF THEY CHOOSE TO DENY GOD AND BE ATHEISTS. GOD PERMITTED ADAM AND EVE TO CHOOSE TO DISOBEY EVEN THOUGH IT HURT BOTH THEM AND HIM. FORCED WORSHIP IS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO GOD. FORCED WORSHIP IS THE DEVIL’S WAY. GOD’S WAY IS LOVING PERSUASION. HISTORY SHOWS THAT VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME THE CHURCH PASSED LAWS TO ENFORCE ITS BELIEFS, PERSECUTION AND MURDER OF OTHERS RESULTED. THIS IS A LESSON WE CAN LEARN FROM THE MIDDLE AGES HISTORY OF THE LITTLE HORN.
3. PERHAPS I HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT MY CONCEPT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT ANTICHRIST WOULD BE AN EVIL BEING WHO OPENLY OPPOSED GOD. IS THIS CONCEPT INCORRECT? (1 JOHN 4:3 )
WE USUALLY CONSIDER THE WORD “ANTI” TO MEAN “AGAINST”. BUT IN “ANTICHRIST” IT MEANS “IN THE PLACE OF” OR “INSTEAD OF”. ANTICHRIST IS GUILTY OF ASSUMING THE PREROGATIVES OF GOD. IT CLAIMS:
A. ITS PRIESTS CAN FORGIVE SINS WHICH ONLY GOD CAN DO (LUKE 5:21).
B. TO HAVE CHANGED GOD’S LAW BY DROPPING OUT THE SECOND COMMANDMENT (ON WORSHIPING IMAGES) AND SPLITTING THE TENTH INTO TWO PARTS. GOD’S LAW CANNOT BE CHANGED (MATTHEW 5:18).
C. THAT THE POPE IS GOD ON EARTH.
SATAN’S ORIGINAL PLAN
SATAN’S ORIGINAL PLAN (IN HEAVEN) WAS TO ASSUME GOD’S POSITION AND AUTHORITY. HIS AIM WAS TO OUST GOD AND RULE IN HIS PLACE. (SEE STUDY GUIDE 2.) WHEN SATAN WAS EJECTED FROM HEAVEN, HIS AIM DID NOT CHANGE, BUT RATHER INTENSIFIED. THROUGH THE CENTURIES HE HAS ENDEAVORED (USING VARIOUS HUMAN AGENCIES) TO DISCREDIT GOD AND TAKE OVER HIS POSITION.
ANTICHRIST APPEARS TO BE SPIRITUAL
SATAN AIMS TO REPLACE GOD IN THESE LAST DAYS BY DECEIVING PEOPLE INTO FOLLOWING ANTICHRIST, WHO APPEARS SPIRITUAL AND HOLY. THE MAIN PURPOSE OF THE PROPHECIES OF DANIEL AND REVELATION IS TO EXPOSE SATAN’S TRAPS AND STRATEGIES AND LEAD PEOPLE TO ANCHOR IN JESUS AND HIS WORD FOR SAFETY.
ANTICHRIST WILL DECEIVE MANY
MOST PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THE ANTICHRIST (REVELATION 13:3), THINKING THEY ARE FOLLOWING CHRIST. ONLY THE VERY ELECT WILL BE SAFE (MATTHEW 24:23, 24). THEY WILL BE SAFE BECAUSE THEY TEST EVERY SPIRITUAL TEACHING AND LEADER BY SCRIPTURE (ISAIAH 8:20). RELIGIOUS DECEPTION IS EVERYWHERE TODAY. WE CANNOT BE TOO CAREFUL.
4. DOESN’T THE BIBLE SAY IN 1 JOHN 2:18-22 THAT THERE ARE MANY ANTICHRISTS? (1 JOHN 2:18 )
YES, THERE HAVE BEEN MANY ANTICHRISTS DOWN THROUGH HISTORY WHO HAVE WORKED AGAINST THE KINGDOM OF GOD. HOWEVER, THERE IS ONLY ONE ENTITY THAT SPECIFICALLY FULFILLS ALL THE PROPHESIED CHARACTERISTICS OF THE ANTICHRIST. IN DANIEL CHAPTERS 7 AND 8 AND IN REVELATION CHAPTER 13, YOU WILL FIND AT LEAST 10 IDENTIFYING TRAITS OF THE ANTICHRIST. THESE 10 IDENTIFYING MARKS CAN BE FULFILLED IN ONLY ONE ENTITY, THE PAPACY.
5. IN PROPHECY, DOES THE SYMBOL “BEAST” MEAN “BEASTLY” CHARACTERISTICS? (REVELATION 13:1 )
NOT AT ALL. GOD USES THE SYMBOLISM OF A BEAST TO SIGNIFY A RULER, NATION, GOVERNMENT, OR KINGDOM. IT IS HIS WAY OF DEPICTING GOVERNMENTS IN PROPHECY. WE DO THIS OURSELVES TO SOME DEGREE: WE HAVE DEPICTED RUSSIA AS A BEAR, THE UNITED STATES AS AN EAGLE, ETC. THE SYMBOL “BEAST” IS NOT A DEMEANING, DISRESPECTFUL TERM. IT IS SYNONYMOUS WITH “ANIMAL” OR “CREATURE”. EVEN CHRIST IS PORTRAYED AS A LAMB BY JOHN THE BAPTIST (JOHN 1:29) AND THE APOSTLE JOHN (REVELATION 5:6, 9, 12, 13). THE TERM “BEAST” IS UTILIZED BY GOD TO GIVE US A MESSAGE ABOUT NATIONS AND LEADERS, GOOD AND EVIL.
I could continue with many other prophecies that 99% of the propounders miss the truth because they refuse to let Scripture explain itself. Any other explanations are mere speculation and in the end will lead millions to follow the anti-Christ into the Lake of Fire. Steve Wilcox
please!!! dont say yes to anti-crist if it come to you cause it is a ticket to hell just like jesus is ticket to heaven please pray everyday with your family in jesus name god bless you
Anyone could be a ROMAN citizen by just living there and claiming it. It was not the Roman rulers that called for the sacking of Jerusalem in 70 AD it was the general of the Roman army that instigated it. The soldiers were all for it. The Roman soldiers were mostly Arab, only 1 to 2 out of every 20 soldiers were Caucasian, there was other races also in the Roman army. So yes the anti-christ could be Arab. If he offers Israel a 7 year peace treaty why would it be Europe or America or other white nations if we are friends with Israel? Seems Israel’s “ENEMY” would be the one offering a peace treaty NOT friends who are NOT at war with them. They would already be at peace with Israel so why sit at the table and sign a peace treaty with them if they are not at war with Israel? If America was at war with China and someone from either side said stop we give up. The two would compromise a solution and sit together at a table to sign a peace treaty. It would not be America signing a peace treaty with Canada whom we were not at war with, it would be China we are signing the peace treaty with.
Like I said Kirk, some people will look at a duck and call it a hippo. The prophecies of Jesus, Daniel, and John the Revelator have very specific applications that do not require your’s or my interpretation. We must let Scripture and history do the talking. In Matthew 24, the disciples came to Jesus and asked Him what would be the signs of His coming and of the end of the world. Jesus aswered with a dual application-first the destruction of Jerusalem which happened under Titus in AD 70 and secondly, the signs that should be looked for that would herald His promised and VISIBLE return. The talking heads in most churches, have come up with all kinds of scenarios that I would imagine God even considers foolish. For instance, the secret rapture and the seven years of tribulation (you know-the Left Behind novels by Jerry and Timothy!) Space does not allow for a complete and thorough discussion of this fallacious doctrine that millions believe because they have not taken the time to read the details of the return of Jesus (I Thessolonians 4:16-18). The cut and paste job done by Scolfield, Lindsay, and many others on the 70 weeks of Daniel (taking the last week and moving it until after the supposed rapture before the great tribulation) is downright feeding into the hands of the father of lies who wants us to believe there just might be a second chance for those who did not make it in the first collection. The seventieth week is clearly about Jesus and not some imaginery Anti-Christ who crops up somewhere in the middle of the supposed 7 years of tribulation.
When Christ died, the earthly sanctuary service ended (curtain between holy and most holy place ripped from top to bottom) because type (earthly sanctuary practices) had been replaced by the sacrifice of the true Lamb of God. By the way, Paul says that the anti-christ was already working its way into the church in his time. In fact he said there were many anti-christs. The definition of anti-christ, by the way, means stands in the place of God (kind of sounds like satan’s desires to me). Before I close, I want to ask you a few logical question-were Noah and his family saved out of the flood or through the flsood? And didn’t Jesus say that as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be when He comes again? Didn’t He also promise His disciples as He was returning to heaven that He was going to prepare a place for them and would come again to receive all who believe on him and tkae them back with Him (“That where I am, there you will be also”)? Doesn’t sound very secret to me? And one final question, since Revelation 14:12 describes those who are redeemed as keeping His commandments and having the faith of Jesus, doesn’ that rule out those who worship on a day not declared holy by God? There’s that pesky fourth commandment again! You know, the one we were told to remember and that was put into effect way back at the end of the six days of Creation. Isn’t the dispensation of grace wonderful! We just do not now have to obey Him, right? Wrong!!! This concept of Old Testament Salvation by works and New Testament Salvation by grace is a doctrine of devils. The wages of sin have always been death but because of the Grace of God, Adam and Eve were not immediately put to death, nor are we when we sin. God so loved the world that He gave His only Son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. (And this promise was made to Adam and Eve way back at the beginning of sin-Genesis 3:15). God’s grace has therefore been raining down upon us from the point that sin entered His perfect creation. Yes, I have rambled a bit, but Kirk, and anyone else ready this blurb, please remember what the prophet Isaiah wrote in Is. 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.” Always verify any and all “truth” to the Scriptures and you will never be lead down the road that leads to destruction.
Y E S H U A is the name of the Messiah. The Jews are still waiting for their savior. I am a gentile and unlike the rest of my fellow gentiles, I agree with the Jews. The savior has not been here before. I must be one of the first Gentiles to cross over the line and join the Jewish Camp. What that means is: “Everything writen about Jesus was made up by the Romans under Constantine”. I asked a Rabbi once why they don’t believe in Jesus. He said because it is the story of Zues. Zues does the same thing, he comes down to Earth and has sex with a human. They have a divine child. Similar story.
So who is the Dragon that deceives the whole Earth? My quess the Dragon is the Roman Catholic Church. The Dragon and the snake, both reptiles both lie and trick. Plus the crest on the door of the Vatican is a Dragon. Steve above falls into the group of people that have been deceived. Steve has been fooled and he doesn’t get it. He doesn’t think he has been deceived, but he has. Sorry Steve I was once in your camp but I did a lot of researh. I have been doing a lot of digging. I talk to the Atheists, the Religious and any one on the Fence. I get all sides of the story. I also looked up some Greek words, like the name Jesus. Je-Sus is two words. Je – means Man, Sus means =Swine. That makes Jesus the “Pigman”. So Jesus is the Beast. Now Jesus was crucified and died on the cross, but he wasn’t the prophet. Jesus wasn’t his real name either. The Romans called all of the Jews Swine. That made them feel superior and gave them the right to sacrifice Jews to their Pagan Gods. Like the moon goddess Diana. Jesus didn’t die for anyones Sins, he was food for the Gods. Human sacrifice. Now the Romans weren’t the only group of people doing Human Sacrifice. They all did it. By sacrificing a Human the group would receive a benefit from their God. For some the crops would grow, a bridge would stay up, or others Sins would be forgiven. Then they could enter Heaven.
“WHO IS THE WHORE OF BABYLON? Babylon is located in the Middle East. My quess he is an Arab. Yes, men can be whores. I hear Tiger is back on the tour. The name of the great whore is a jumbled name. The name is: ‘Madamm Ho’. See if you can unjumble the name ‘MADAMM HO’ to find out who the great whore is. The name fits perfectly. You heard it first from me. I didn’t find this information somewhere else.
Revelation 13.. the dragon, the beast and the false prophet..This is the body of the anti christ..HE IS A COUNTERFEIT of Christ and his followers
The dragon is counterfeit of God’s spirit… The beast is a man….v.18 says he is a man…This beast is a counterfeit of messiah Jesus….The false prophet beast are those that take the false gospel koran of the beast messiah and say they are words of God..VERY SIMPLE..In truth these are allah, mohammed and muslims… and…
Revelation 12-9 and rev. 16-2 says this dragon beast is none other than THAT OLD SERPENT
Revelation 12-9…And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
The dragon is none other than THAT OLD SERPENT from the Garden of eden…
Revelation 20-2..And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
This dragon serpent is bound 1000 years and AFTER the 1000 years(it doesnt say exactly how long after) satan is loosed to deceive the world again.. This is probably the return of the madhi..
From whay I’ve read, the devil will be bound during the millennium of Christ’s reign then just before the final judgement of everyone who has ever lived, the devil will be released a short while to try to tempt the non-believers – to separate the “wheat from the chaff” so to speak. Those who turn to ssatan will die in the lake of fire and the true believers will have eternal life. After that the devil will burn forever in the lake of fire and all believers will retire to the city of New Jerusalem, where God himself will reside.
Don’t worry about the Mahdi. There is no Mahdi – that’s something made up by that Mohammed dude. Not true, just a clever story.
Stick with the bible, you’ll be fine. See you someday in the city.
Y E S H U A is the Messiah. Jesus is the counterfeit messiah.
Thank you for finding this verse: Revelation 12-9…And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
YAHWEH (God) is very precise in his words. It says: “which deceiveth the whole world.” That means everyone in the whole world has been deceived. That includes you and me. Everyone has been deceived. Yes, you have been deceived. So have I. The Dragon (The Roman Catholic Church) has been lying to us. So have all of the other False prophets that have come forward in the past 2200 years or more, All the way back to the OT. They have all been lying to us. All the false prophets have come and gone. They sold it and we all bougth it. We have all been deceived. The whole earth has been deceived. Yahweh said the whole earth. He means the whole earth. Everyone
Melanie…Revelation 16-12..And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the WAY of the kings of the east might be prepared.Note: this says THE WAY of the kings of the east… THE WAY of these kings is Islam…The next verse shows us THE WAY of the kings of the east…V.13..And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.THE WAY of the kings of the east is Islam and the bible depicts this WAY as the dragon , beast and false prophets of Rev. 13.
V. !4 shows these take THE WAY to the entire world to prfepare for the battle WITH JESUS…
ARE YOU A MUSLIM MELANIE???
Wrong again Melanie…The Bible says IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DECEIVE THE ELECT…
THE BEAST OF REV 13 WHICH IS THE WAY OF THE KINGS OF THE EAST IS….
A counterfeit of Jesus…..The dragon is a counterfeit of God’s spirt that indwelled jesus, The beast man is a counterfeit of messiah Jesus…. The false prophets are counterfeits of the Christians who took the real words of god to the entire world..
How else would satan battle jesus except by setting up a counterfeit messiah, a counterfeit gospel, denying Christ death and resurrection and that he is son of god and by killing all Christians who won’t bow to the allah beast.as Islam continues to do…THEY LOSE BIG TIME AND SOON…it is written…
Hi Ruth, NO, I am not a MUSLIM. Like you I can’t be fooled by False Prophets. I am Anglo Saxon White American Gentile. The Jews are still waiting for the messiah Yeshua. I believe the Jews are the chosen people they have kept the true word of G-d Yahweh.
The false prophet says to watch out for those coming in my name. Everyone will see Jesus coming in the clouds. That is how you will know it is Jesus returning. Jesus can’t fly but the Dragon can. Dragons have wings.
Ruth, are you a Muslim?
Satan, which deceiveth the whole world.
The whole world has been deceived. This as already happened. Some are watching for a false prophet to come so they will not be deceived. He has already been here and he deceived the whole world. But he can’t deceive me and you, we are to smart for Satan. Wrong. We have all been fooled.
Melanie… you must be very confused or are attempting to confuse others.. First you say the name JESUS means the pigman and he is the beast….AND then you say his name was not really JESUS…
And I can almost promise you with certainity that JE does not mean man and SUS does not mean pig.. you just made that up …
Melanie, you are a true unbeliever…
Melanie..
JESUS
c.1175 (O.E. simply used hælend “savior”), from Gk. Iesous, attempt to render Aramaic proper name Jeshua (Heb. Yeshua) “Jah is salvation,” a common Jewish personal name, the later form of Heb. Yehoshua (see Joshua). As an oath, attested from late 14c. For Jesus H. Christ (1924), see I.H.S. First record of Jesus freak is from 1970. Jesu, common in M.E., is from the O.Fr. objective case.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=jesus&searchmode=none
Hi Ruth, The old testament was written in Hebrew because it was written by the Jews. The new testament was written in Greek because it written by the Romans. In most texts names are not translated. Peoples names remain the same. Only the text is translated. The fact that before the 1600’s Christ name was Iesus. Then in later version it became Jesus demonstrates tinkering. The Jews never changed one letter in the OT. Yahweh never changed over thousands of years. They were faithful to God.
And Yes Ruth, I know there is a G-d, Yahweh, he is our Father in Heaven. I believe he wants us to be in Harmony. That means we all have to agree. People that can’t agree can’t live together. If we are all going to live in Jerusalem together we have to be in harmony. The world is in disagreement with each other.
The Church is broken apart.
The rabbi also told me that there is no record in the history books of a Jesus living during that time period. There is only a record of a James. NO Jesus. There is a record of King David in history. NO Jesus. You’d think someone that performed miracles would at least have been mentioned somewhere. There is no mention of him.
ALLAH is nothing but a counterfeit of the god of Abraham…He was the moon god of ancient arabia…
ALLAH..The term was also used by pagan Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity in pre-Islamic Arabia.[4]
The concepts associated with the term Allah (as a deity) differ among the traditions. In pre-Islamic Arabia amongst pagan Arabs, Allah was not considered the sole divinity, having associates and companions, sons and daughters – a concept which Islam thoroughly and resolutely abrogated.
In pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was used by Meccans as a reference to the creator-god, possibly the supreme deity.
Allah is the dragon of Rev. 13.. Mohammed is the false messiah beast man.. and muslims are the false prophet beast of rev 13…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah
Melaine..Jewish historian Josephius Flavius wrote much about Jesus..as did also many others…
Melanie… Have you never read that god promised in latter days to send man a PURE LANGUAGE whereby men could call upon god’s names…Zep. 3- 8, 9..
HEBREW, ARAMAIC, GREEK AND ARABIC, ETC ARE ALL FROM THE TOWER OF bABEL.
Greek language had no j’S…iN THE PURE LANGUAGE THERE ARE VOWELS AND THE LETTER j AND SUFFICENT ALPHABET..
JESUS IS GOD….HE WAS FORMED IN FLESH as he himself said in Isaiah 43-10… Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Hi Ruth, I agree with you on the false prophet from Babylon. I never write his name because in a search people that follow him will come here and join in the conversation. And Yes, I also agree that all langauges come from God, Babel.
I went to a neutral source, Merriam Webster Dictionary, to find the meaning of the word SUS. I picked the Dictionary because it is the most precise meaning of words. I go there a lot. There are lots of other sources that say pretty much the same thing. Some other sites are bias. This is what I found.
Thank you for your dialog. You seem to be well informed just like I am.
Hi Ruth, I found another good site that explains the name of our savior. http://www.scribd.com/doc/21578539/The-Saviours-Names-Has-Never-Been-Jesus
I think this site is worth looking at. It is the Jewish point of view. I think the best way to get at the truth is to look at everyones point of view. The saviors name was never Jesus. By calling our sweet savior by the name Jesus is blasphemous. Our savior is named after his Father, Yahweh. The saviors Jewish name is Yeshua.
Again Ruth, thank you for listening. My intention of coming here was to share my interpertation of Revelation and Daniel. I came to share and not win a debate. You know all of the verses better than I do. I only read two books mentioned above.
The names the Romans called Jesus while he was dying on the cross were blasphemous. He was from the House of David, the decendant of a Great King. Gods favorite. He was called horrible names and his real name was not Jesus. The Romans were horrible. Also Jesus, died in Rome not Jerusalem. (Jesus’ Real name is unknown)
MELAINE.. THE HEBREW JEWISH APOSTLES AND EARLY FOLLOWERS OF JESUS SAID HIS NAME IS JESUS…JESUS MEANS JEHOVAH IS SALVATION.. JESUS IS GOD MADE FLESH.. THE HEBREW JEWISH APOSTLES JOHN said Jesus is the god of the beginning and Genesis 1-1 is the beginning..
Who gave them the right to change his name? if he Jesus, he should be called Jesus any where in the world. if his name is Yeshua, then he should be called Yeshua any where in the world.
it is just Jesus in english, Isa in Islam, Iesus in Greek, Yeshua in hebrew
John 1-1 IN THE BEGINNING was the word and word was with god and the wORd was god…
Genesis 1-1 IN THE BEGINNING GOD….
Hebrew was not the language spoken at the garden of Eden.. Hebrew is a very inferior language.. It has no vowels, or j’s or enough alphabet.. Hebrew is from the tower of BABEL AS ALL LANGUAGES ON EARTH EXCEPT THE PURE LANGUAGE WHICH GOD SENDS AFTER THE NATIONS ARE GATHERED.. THIS WOULD BE AFTER AMERICA WAS established..It is probably English…English is said to be made up of every language …This would fit with the tower of bable splintered languages..And jesus name in English is Jesus…and Jesus is the only way back to God…
I repeat…every language on earth is from the tower of Babel EXCEPT the pure langauge…and it is not “Hebrew.
I see a link between Hebrew and English. Hebrew is read from right to left. English is read from left to right. Hebrew is a mirror image of English. The following verse can be read from left to right and right to left and it says the same thing. “First is Last and Last is First”. Or the First will be Last and the Last will be First. Its a mirtor image. Two worlds, one is the reflection of the other. PLUS there is a hidden message in this verse. I see Hebrew as a complement to English.
I also see Jumbled Hebrew Words that translate into English words. Two Hebrew names I see are YAHWEH and YESHUA. Yahweh unjumbled means “Celebration”. Yeshua is an odd name, I don’t know anyone by that name. Unjumbling the name YESHUA into an English name tells you who the true Messiah is. Last is the name of the false prophet “The Whore or Babylon”, His jumbled name is “MADAMM HO”. Whore defined: To offer indiscriminately for sexual activity. He had how many wives, plus he was raping lots of women. God says he’s a whore. I believe God. Yes, I think he fits the description of a WHORE, and YES, he comes from BABYLON. He comes on the road from the East.
A swine is a beast, and the Dragon is a liar. The Catholic Church is the Dragon. The false prophet is the Great Whore. Which matches up to the Verse you picked below.
V.13..And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
The beast, the dragon and the false prophet are three different entities. They are separate. A dragon is a reptile (lying snake), a beast is a mammal (swine, goat, sheep). False Prophet is a man.
Dragon is a mytholocial animal. It’s made up. A dragon is a myth. The Roman Catholic Church has roots in Mythology. The pagan symbols are everywhere within the Church. The Church wrote another myth. Dragons lie.
Beasts are not a myth. Animals can’t talk for themselves. They lack representation and that is why humans pass laws to protect animals from abuse and cruelty. Last false prophets are nothing but lying whores.
So what this comes down to is everyone is wrong but the Jews. We worship a Virgin and they worship a Whore. The Jews only worship God.
Yes, I was fooled. I was deceived. I beleived just like the rest of you. I had to admit I was wrong. I did a lot of research. I looked everywhere. I went to the dictionary, I talked to the Atheists, I talked to the Christians, I talked to the Jews. I talked to the kids that think they know everything. You should listen to the kids, they think they have it all figured out. I see all of their points. I took it all in.
Melanie,when I was very young I saw that men do not know the truth particularily about Scripture…For instance, God told man to be fruitful and multiply and he blessed them…This would make sex a blessing from god…Yet men tried to imply that sex was original sin, some even going so far as to say Eve was seduced by the devil and produced Cain..This is nothing but garbage…
Anyway when I began my search for real truth of Scripture I did not turn to any man.. I turned to the Bible and Jesus who incidentally is truth… Immediately he began to enlighten me and change me…
One of the first truths he showed me was the sealed mystery of Genesis 1-26 where god said “Let US make man in our image..”” He not only revealed to me that the other entity of this verse is satan and that satan began his MAKING of man in Genesis 3…Satan MADE ADAM’S INTELLECT LIKE UNTO HIS OWN…Gensis 3-22 verifies this..Then the Lord showed me in Matthew 13-35-40 when he he expounded this mystery..It is about god’s children, the wheat and satan’s children the tares…Satan did not take part in the creation of man That event was done by God only.. Genesis 1-27 verifies this… Satan changed/MADE men into a creature like himself…Man became like satan in understanding what is good and what is evil…THIS IS WHY NO MAN UNDERSTANDS THE SCRIPTURE UNLESS GOD ENLIGHTEN HIM…
Genesis 3-22.. And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
What could be clearer.. MAN BECAME LIKE SATAN IN UNDERSTANDING GOOD AND EVIL…How could such an intellect understand truth without enlightenment from God himself…JESUS IS gOD…
IF YOU WANT REAL TRUTH YOU MUST GO THROUGH JESUS….
Satan’s children and God’s children are made thus by the spirit that indwells them…The two trees of Genesis show this truth.. Adam ate of the evil wisdom tree and BECAME LIKE SATAN… iF HE HAD EATEN OF the Good Wisdom tree he would have lived forever and been like an angel…
If jews had the complete truth today they would be Christians…
Melanie. Rev 13….THE DRAGON is none other than that old serpent , satan and his fallen angels.. Rev 12-9..
The beast in Revelation 13 is A MAN…Rev 13-18..for it is the number of a man;
The false prophet beast rev 13 are those who carry the false doctrines of the beast and who profess an imposter is god..
This is Islam and Mohammed and muslims and it is not over yet..
THE EIGHTH KING (HEAD) HAS RETURNED…Rev 17-11..
But I think you need to learn about salvation before you tackle revelations…
Hi Ruth,
I love conversation. When two minds meet and everything is agreed upon there is nothing more to talk about.
I find this verse hard to interpert. What are your thoughts on this verse?
I have trouble calculating the number of man without taking a census. The number adds up to 666. Why 666?
According to Webster – : Beast 1 : Animal 1: esp a four footed mammal 2 : a contemptible person.
Webster clearly says a beast is both an aminal and a person. According to this definition a sweet little Lamb is also a beast. Sheep, goats, lambs, cows are all beasts and are lead to slaughter. Jesus is both a Man and the Lamb of God. Jesus was also lead to slaughter.
Last you wrote I need to learn about salvation? I think I am going to Heaven. Are you thinking somewhere else? If you don’t believe in Jesus doesn’t means your going to Hell. I am a good person who does good deads. I don’t think someone who steals, murders, lies and beleives in Jesus gets to go to Heaven just because they believe. That’s not right. Good people go to Heaven even if they are an Atheist.
I agree with you about Islam. There is more to come. They hate us because we support the Jews. They hate us even more now that we have envaded their lands. It’s just getting deeper and deeper. Our enemies are living amoung us. If we try to live in their country we get our heads cut off. They are bigger haters than we are.
I did some research on the number of the beast, 666. Seems that the name JESUS adds up to 666. It is based on the number 9 from the letter T in the Hebrew language. You can see how it is calculated here:
http://www.jesusorsatan.com/
Seems that my salvation is assured. I am not the one worshipping Satan according to the number 666. You should check it out. There is always someone one step ahead of me that has already figured things out before I have. I love my people. They have such great minds. Some of these Armageddon sites are funny as Hell. Who would have thought Jesus’ number is 666.
Melanie…Acts 4-12.Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name(Jesus) under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Acts 10-43..To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
John 3-18..He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God
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No Melanie you are not saved and you are not going to Heaven..unless you change…
Acts 2-38, 39.. Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, [even] as many as the Lord our God shall call.
Saying the number 666 means Jesus is asinine…and shows a complete lack of wisdom ….or understanding..
The beast group makes war against Jesus…do you think Jesus is a schizophrenic that fights himself..??
Rev 16-14, rev 17-14, rev 19-19..
Hi Ruth, I have my Bible in front of me. Rev 16 -14 says this:
I see no mention of the Lamb here.
I read this to mean that the King will do battle with the Lamb. Those faithful will also do battle against the King. Again this entire page is in symbols I do not recognize yet. I did read that the beast will become a King. It also says that Jesus is a King. If you understand these verses well, then Kudos to you.
Ruth, YOU are WRONG, I am not here to tear apart your faith. You can believe in Jesus. God will not condemn you to Hell for your belief in Jesus. Now you would condemn me to Hell because I do not believe as you do. I believe as the Jews do. The Jews are not going to Hell either. God is a far better judge than you are. God judges fairly. This is the big problem with Christains, they think they are going to Heaven and everyone else is going to Hell. This is what tears us apart and separates us from being in Harmony. Christians stand on top of the Hill saying I am right and you are wrong. God allows us to be wrong, we are here to learn. WE have all be deceived. We have to learn the hard way. I would like to make peace with you. I would like you to make peace with the Atheists and the Pagans. We are all in this world together. I don’t like being wrong any more than the next person. No one likes being wrong. The whole world is wrong. When you quote a verse from the NT like what Peter said. It’s something that the Pagan Romans made up. It’s all fiction, mythology.
I am not going to push you to think like I do because you are superstitious. Why? Because if you don’t believe in Jesus your going to go to Hell. So you need to believe. I don’t want you to live in fear that you are going to go to Hell so you should continue to believe. God does not send pagans to Hell. God does not send Atheists to Hell. God does not send adulters to Hell. God is fair. God knows how you are.
My job is to tell everyone one they are wrong. That is my mission from God. That is the first step in rebuilding the Church. Because the Church is broken and needs to be rebuilt. If we don’t come together, we are at war with each other. The war will not end until we come together. Just like you and I are at war with each other. You started a Holy War with me.
No Melanie.. I am not at war with you…You are at war with the Gospel…That is your choice..
You say you are a jew…you should understand the old testament..
After Adam sinned god informed him he had becvome like satan in understanding good and evil…Adam lost his sonship with the lord….Jesus restores this sonship…He did so with the jewish apostles and early jewish converts to CHristianity…
John 1-12..But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name
Jesus is god almighty…your own scriputre tells you..Isaiah 43-10…Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God FORMED, neither shall there be after me. FORMED MEANS MADE FLESH..
you choose to not believe.. That is your perogrative…
Jesus said he would restore the kingdom to Israel in time, but I can promise you Israel will have to come back the same way the Jewish apostles did, through Jesus..
And Melanie.. you could never tear apart my faith….but you really should not lie and attack Jesus the way you do…It not ony is not nice, it is very unappreciative since he died for you too… and i am sure God is not well pleased with this behavior
Human Sacrifice is a Pagan practice. Jesus did not die for me. Our Father does not need a Human Sacrifice. The Romans served Jesus up to the Goddess Diana at a late summer Event. The Romans enjoyed drink and food while Jesus was sacrificed to the Moon goddess Diana. Jesus suffered greatly as the Romans called him blasphemous names. After the Event his body was thrown out in the trash. Jesus did not walk around in his old dead body.
God came for his Son before he died and brings him back to his fathers house where he is given a beautiful new body. Jesus is resurrected in his Father House, not in Jerusalem. You get a new body in Heaven. Your old dead body does not come back to life. Your old body is trash. It is a discarded empty SHELL. JESUS did not die for me, he suffered because the Romans are cruel. Jesus’ real name is John Doe. He is not the Pigman that the Romans called him as he suffered on the cross.
See I love John just as much as you do. The Romans took the House of David to Rome so they could be entertained. And then they took the Holy Words of the Jews and corrupted them.
It is the Romans that should Repent for their sins against a great king.
Hi Melanie,
If you could summarize your thoughts, who is Jesus to you? What/who is he, and what/who is he not?
Hi Marianne,
Jesus is not YESHUA. Jesus does not translate into Yeshua. J does not exist in Hebrew. The Jews are still waiting for their Messiah. Jesus is the name the Romans made up. John is not the Swine God. John is the son of a Great and fair King. The romans shipped thousands to Roman for their events. It is well documented what happen in Rome. Jerusalem is where life begins and Rome is where life ends. Rome is Hell. The Dragon came right out of Hell.
hi Melanie
Jesus is supposed to be the English word, which was derived from the Greek translation, for Yeshusa.
But putting all that aside, who do you think Yeshua is?
Do you believe the contents of the New Testament?
Who is John that you refer to?
Hi Marianne,
How are you? Do you know Ruth? And are you a regular on this site? You asked who do I think Yeshua is. My answer is: Yeshua is the Savior. Then I am curious why you ask if I believe in the contents of the NT. I think I have clearly contradicted the contents of the NT. It’s a story made up by Constantine and the Romans. Liars always get caught up in their lies.
Next question. John is Christ, but hold on. Christ comes from the word Christo, Christo means annointed. All of us are annointed, so we have more than one Christ. The body of christ is bread, bread is dough. Dough and Doe sound the same. Johns last name is Doe. Christ’ real name is John Doe. Revelation and Daniel are in symbols, I have learned how to read the symbols. God has left a trail of symbols and clues.
Marianne. What is your stand on the New Testament? Do you believe in God? Did Jesus die for your sins? Just curious on your position on religion.
Hi Melanie
I am the owner of this site. I let people speak their views, so they can learn from each other.
Most people believe that Yeshua = Jesus, and that the NT is a record of the life of Yeshua while on earth. They also believe that Yeshua is the Christ, not a man named John. The bible teaches that Yeshua (Jesus) is the Christ. He had a follower named John, who wrote several of the books in the NT, but John was not the Christ, Yeshua (Jesus) was.
The reason I asked is because you believe some things Christians believe, and other things I have not heard of. Where do you get your ideas? They seem to be a mixture of impressions from different spiritual paths, or are you New Age?
The fact is there is a Christ and there is an antiChrist..Those that reject the real Crist will according to the scripture accept the antichrist….
The Bible says those that do not believe the Gospel of Christ will believe a delusional lie that damns them..This delusional lie is the Gospel the asntichrist brings and deceives the world.. ALL BUT THE ELECT OF CHRIST..
This antichrist gospel will be the exact same doctrine the Idumean pharisees taught…It is the same as Islam..Jews could fall for this lie because the anti christ teaches the prophets, the old testament, moses, abraham and a wimply little imposter called Issa.TAKE YOUR PICK….
There is not much time left…
I would hate to think God is so stupid he was not aware of the translations of the tower of Babel languages..or of the coming pure language..
Melanie, read Genesis 1-26 and tell me who god was speaking to when he said LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE..nOTE he said MAKE ,not CREATE..,Who helped god MAKE MAN…??? Again I say MAKE, not create..
The actual creation of man is in the next verse.. genesis 1-27….which says AND SO GOD created man in his OWN image.. So what did he mean in genesis 1-26 when he said LET US MAKE MAN…the answer to this is in Gensis and also in the book of Matthew..
You see Mealnie, although god created man in his image, Adam did not retain that image…God said Adam became like satan in gensis 3-22.Another prophecy of this sealed mystery of Gensis 1-26 is in Gnesis 3-22… This verse speaks of the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent..These are the two images of Gensis 1-26 and this prophecied battle between these two images occurs in the last days…
Jesus further expounds this sealed mystery in Matthew 13-35 through 40… He said he will expound mysteries that were sealed from the foundation of the world.. That would be up to and including Genesis 3…Jesus also said this sealed mystery is about the wheat who are god’s children and the tares who are satan’s children and he sowed them..now go tell your rabbi and see how well he multilates this…
I can show you genesis 3 -15 what it means to bruise the heel and to bruise the head but not until you accept the truth…
Melanie.. have you never wondered what the original sin was or what cain’s doctrine was or what God meant when he said he declared the end from the beginning, What thee two trees in the midst of the garden really were, what part astrology played in the history of man, where it originated and why,?????
The following verse shows that men worshipped at the astrology shrine.. Deut 4-19..Deuteronomy 4-19..And lest thou lift up thine eyes unto heaven, and when thou seest the sun, and the moon, and the stars, [even] all the host of heaven, shouldest be driven to worship them, and serve them, which the LORD thy God hath divided unto all nations under the whole heaven.
Melanie, I know the answers to the above questions The answers are all in the Bible…..God is pouring out the truth and opening the sealed mysteries for this crucial time we live in…Please do not allow your mind to be closed by believing lies.. IT means more than you know…
I never meant to offend you.. forgive me if i have…
Hi, Marianne
You asked where do I get my ideas? They seem to be a mixture of impressions from different spiritual paths, . . . The answer to your question is very long. I would have to go all the way back to the TREE, the beginning to answer your question, so I will make it brief. God talks to us in a number of ways. We can read his words and we can also see the World that we live in. God talks in symbols a lot. I have learned when he is talking in symbols by what I see in life. I match the two up. Then I research what the symbol means, I ask: What are the characteristics of the symbol. Since Ruth wants me to read Genesis, lets look at the symbols there. Lets start with the TREE.
This verse is symbolic. The fruit on this tree is knowledge. The tree grows both good and bad knowledge (read in Hebrew direction right to left). God says you must not digest the knowledge because it’s poison. Now how do we know this is symbolic. First, ask what do I know about trees? Trees grow tall, have branches and deep roots. You can’t eat knowledge from a tree, so we know that God is talking in symbols. Since we know this one verse in Genesis is symbolic we can assume there are symbols in the rest of the story. Then what do we know about knowledge, like a tree, knowledge grows and branches out. There is good knowledge on the tree (sciences) and it branches out into other fields of knowledge. There is also bad knowledge on the tree which branches out. Since this is bad knowledge this limb on the tree might die and fall from the tree. A new branch may grow in its place.
Now how can Knowlege/Technology make us positively die? We can send ourselves from here to Kingdom comes with technology. Nuclear Jihad? Is car pollution going to kill us? Do cell phones damage our bodies? What about all of those wireless devices? Are all of these things from technology going to kill us?
These are my techinques in interpertation.
Melanie
It sounds like you just walk to the beat of a different drum. Maybe we can share drumbeats. 🙂
Hi Ruth,
Your question. You asks me: Melanie, read Genesis 1-26 and tell me who God was speaking to when he said:
Yes, Ruth, I agree, God does say MAKE and not CREATE. God made it up. God made the World up. He didn’t create man he made him up. It’s a play on words. God does play with words, he’s a genius with symbols, clues and word play. How can God make things up and not create anything? I have given this a lot thought before you even brought this up. This is how I have interpreted Gods words. There are two Worlds (See Quantum Mechanics, and theory of Multiple Worlds). One World is the reflection of the other World. You are in both worlds at the same time. Dreams and Quantum Mechanics, sorry, these are two hard subjects where most people lack knowledge in but I have to take you to these two subjects to explain Gods words. Now hold on, the World is far more complex than anyone could imagine. That is why God has written stories for children. Yes, we are children. Back to the subject of Dreams, this kind of
answers the question between MAKE and CREATE, when your dreaming everything is MADE UP. Your always in a made up place when your dreaming. Right now in the other World, your dreaming. That’s right, this is the dream world. When you wake up, resurrect, you’ll be in the other World (heaven). You are going to be in the exact same place you were in the Evening (death) when you wake up (resurrect) in the Morning (birth). The dream world disappears. That is also why you can’t see God. You can only see one World at a time even though you are in both when your dreaming.
Again, this is my Interpretation, Experiments like the Infamous two slit experiment in Quantum Mechanics has scientists baffled. I have a small understanding of this experiment. I don’t expect you to understand what I wrote above any more than I expect you to understand Atoms and how they work. That is why God wrote a story about how the World began for Children. I don’t mean that in a belittling way. We are all children of God.
Ruth, you also asked:
Melanie, Adam died because god cut him off from the tree of life.. The Bible says in Genesis 3-22..THE MAN BECAME LIKE SATAN AND GOD SENT HIM FORTH FROM EDEN LEST HE EAT OF THE TREE OF LIFE AND LIFE FOREVER IN THE WRETCHED CONDITION HE WAS NOW IN…
And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
nOT TO MENTION THAT THE SOUL THAT IS SINNING IT shall die.. BUT THE son aBIDETHin the house forever.. This means born agains do not die ever…spiritually.
Hi Ruth,
My bible words Genesis is a little different than yours does. This is what mind reads:
I don’t see the words “THE MAN BECAME LIKE SATAN” anywhere in my bible. When God says “live to time indefinite”, What that means to me that he will not live forever on Earth. Another thing that I find interesting are the words Adam and Atom. They both sound the same. Everything that God made in the beginning is made of Atoms including Adam. God made Adam from Atoms. Eve means: 1 Evening 2: the period before some important event. I don’t have an interpretation for this word.
Now I find this story about Adam and Eve kind of sweet, both of them are hiding from God in the bushes because they are both naked. Which they didn’t realize before. Then God gives them clothes and kicks them out of the Garden. I just find that funny.
Melanie..There were four in the Garden when God spoke this..It was Adam, Eve, God and the serpent/satan..Of course he meant satan when he said man is become as ONE OF US.. Remember the man was already like God.. The serpent changed him…THE SERPENT/SATAN HAD JUST TAUGHT MAN HIS VERSION OF WHAT IS GOOD AND WHAT IS EVIL and thus the man became like his teacher…Genesis 3-22..And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
This is why a man must be born anew.. to rid himself of Adam’s condition which all inherited..Jesus only can accomplish the rebirth of mankind..
God kicked Adam and Eve out of the Garden so they could not eat of the tree of life and live forever in their wretched condition…Can you imagine living forever with illness, crime, deceit,, with all things bad on earth and no relief..Kicking them out was an act of mercy..as was also death….Man becomes very corrupt very quickly when they do not have God..
Hi Ruth,
You wrote . . . “Jesus only can accomplish the rebirth of mankind.”
I hope the reason why Christ had to suffer on the Cross isn’t because Adam and Eve disobeyed God in the garden. That’s not fair.
Lets say, I am sitting in the Living Room in Gods House. God comes in the living room and puts a cookie on the table. He then says don’t eat the cookie. God leaves the room. I am alone in the living room with the cookie. As soon as God leaves the room I put the cookie in my mouth. Satan said to eat the cookie. Yes, I am defying God. I have cookie crumbs all over my shirt. I am defying my Father because he put a cookie on the table then he has to say something about the cookie. I like cookies and I know there is a cookie on the table, he told where it is. My Father comes back in the room and asks “Where is the cookie?” I pop the last bite of cookie in my mouth and swallow. I talk back to my Father saying, “You didn’t have to leave a cookie on the table and then tell me about it.” If he hadn’t said anything about the cookie, I wouldn’t have known it was on the table. God and I have an argument about the cookie. He tells me to leave the room. I get up off the couch and not only do I leave the room, I leave the House. It’s about time I get out of my Father House because he is being a jerk. I get a job, get married, buy my own home, have a family. I turn out to be just like my Father. My kid is just like me. The kid is sitting on the couch watching TV and playing video games. I put a bowl of cookies on the table and tell the kid not to eat any of them. Before I leave, I tell the kid again “Don’t eat the cookies”. Just to make sure the kid heard me. I leave the room. I can’t feed the kid forever, someday I am going to die.
Melanie, and what if the parent put two bowls of cookies on the table and cautioned not to eat of one of them…and what if they ate of the one anyway and it was poisoned..It was so poisoned that they were no longer sane or recognizable..WHAT THEN… SO YOU SEE IT A MUCH MORE THAT just forgiveness… IT IS ALSO ABOUT RESTORATION…Sad to say, but when satan told Eve she would be as gods he knew she would lose her god given image and become like his depraved, disfigured self..
And what if that person who ate the bad cookie likes their new disfigured not quite sane self…I guess the real father would have to do something drastic to wake up this wayward child like taking a horrendous beating to ensure healing and to be killed to pay the death penalty the cookie eater had brought upon themselves and their offspring.. But of course it would be up to the cookie eater whether they accept this divine sacrifice…But I fear the first thing the cookie eater would have to do is to know their spiritual father was not unkind nor war was he unfair…They were disobedient and he gave everything to fix things..
And if the cookie eater persists in denying the real father is not unkind or unfair I guess the cookie eater would have to invent an entity to replace him…like a far off in the future messiah by the same name…That way cookie eater does not have to face the real father and can continue thinking God was wrong, When in truth it is the cookie eater that is wrong not the father…
Perhaps this is why REPENTANCE is required as part of salvation…
Acts 2-38..REPENT…Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
1 CORINTHIANS 13-11…When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
MELANIE, We must REPENT and understand we are in the wrong, not God….Then we must be willing to wash away sins with water baptism, ..Then and only then can God restore to us the hOLY gHOST Spirit of God that Adam lost for himself and all of humanity….and read Acts 2-38 again and see that it says to baptise in the NAME OF JESUS…and
This is one of God’s cute little mysteries…
Matthew 28-19..Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Jesus said baptise in the NAME of the father, name of the Son, and Name of the holy ghost.. PETER DID THIS IN ACTS 2-38… He knew Jesus was that omnipresent spirit of god, that he was that same spirit that indwelled Adam before sin, and that he was the man Jesus who became flesh precisely so he could die for humanity.. God cannot die.. He had to become a man so he could die to pay the death penalty for mankind.
JESUS IS GOD….
Amen to that, Ruth!
God cannot die, that’s why Daniel uses term “cut off” and Isaiah uses term “taken away from the land of the living” regarding prophecy of Christ’s crucifixion!
i read genesis differently, when adam and eve ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil there “eyes were opened” which means they were “blind” beforehand! my guess is they were like the animals! but now seeing differently knowing good and evil makes them accountable for sin because those whom see are accountable causing spiritual death on the day they ate thereof. it was not physical death but spiritual death otherwise god would be made to be lying when he said the day you eat of you will die! which brings me to another point why do people assume that adam and eves’ bodies were eternal here on earth before sin. the bible as far as i know doesn’t say this! i believe we were always destined to die as our bodies are only the mortal seed to an immortal spirit! that this life is a test lab to trail all spirits while captive to their earthly bodies, to teach us the sad consequences of evil, and no better way to learn, than to suffer under it! god even hot wired our bodies to our soul to feel pain. this i believe god has shown me because i couldn’t otherwise understand how creation could be truly justified. especially when god knew the out comes of everything before he even started! it is because once born into the glory of heaven the spirit can’t be destroyed only imprisoned because it is eternal! so this life is important so there is no more wars that can happen in heaven! no, but unfortunately they will happen here instead.
I think genesis just meant that they were innocent and did not know what evil was. when their eyes were opened, they found out more than they wanted to know.
Ruth, you did make a good point that the fruit from the tree was poison. I thought I made up a good story but I didn’t include the poison in the cookies. The poison was overlooked in my story. God came up with a much better story than I did and he did it with just a few words. My story didn’t include any symbols. I think it is impossible to duplicate what God does in his stories.
God did put the Tree in the middle of the Garden. If he really didn’t want them to eat from it he could have removed it from the garden. He must have known in advance that they would eat from it. He knew that it’s NOT mans destiny to live forever on Earth. We live a short time on Earth then we are Born in the next (heaven). That is the plan.
Melanie, how else would God give men free will but by giving him a choice…with the hope man would choose good…
Isa 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name [is] Holy; I dwell in the high and holy [place], with him also [that is] of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
The word *ETERNITY* only appears ONCE in KJV … but it says it ALL!
I made up a story similar to Genesis. God also makes up a story in Genesis. I say it was made up because it is full of symbols. The Tree is a symbol, because knowledge does not really grow on tree. Symbolically knowledge does grow on trees. What I do that is different from some of you is that I interpert the symbols. Some of you read everything literally.
Abigail is correct in the verse she found. “God does live for Eternity”. I also read in the same verse that God is Humble. God lives in a Tsrif.
ok…….what is a Tsrif?
Hi Marianne
Tsrif is a Hebrew word which means: Shack. It is also part of the mirror image of or the verse First is last and- tsal Tsrif. This verse can be read from right to left and left to right and it says that same thing. I am still explaining the Tree.
The Pope, bless his heart, lives in a Palace. God lives in a Shack. Don’t get me wrong God loves the Pope and so do I.
Back to the TREE in the garden
Melanie God said he declared the end from the beginning and he did..
Revelation 12-9..And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him
Revelatin 20-2.. And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
The OLD Serpent in the garden is satan and he is the dragon beast of REv 12 and Rev. 13….God declared the end from the beginning
Melanie… Genesis 1,2,3 do have a lot of symbology..That does not mean it didn’t happen as recorded..He reveals the truth about the symbols to his own…I understand some of them…
Like for instance the two trees…the tree of life is comparable to the Gospel of life that Jesus brought and the other tree is comparable to the counterfeit koran gospel brought by the angel of light …The gospel of life leads to eternal life.. The koran gospel leads to death..
Did you even know antichrist has a gospel …1 Galatians 1-8 and 2 Corinthins 11- 4,14
to Eve’s deception
Jude 1-11..Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core.
Cain’s doctrine was same as Balaam and Core….Their doctrine was astrology lore and egyptian lore..
This verse in Jude pretty much confirms that astrology lore was gleaned from the tree of knowledge…Cain learned it from his parents probably..Abel did not accept the god of astrology evidently.. This main God of astrology was named SIN, the moon god.He was the main god in astrology and the door to the heavens …and strangely enough , God said to Cain “SIN lieth at the door”…
The astrology lore was praciced by every civilazation on earth and is sill prevalent today…Deut 4-19 is a verse condemning astrology worship…
And allah of Arabia is this ancient astrology god…His name in Arabia was Hubal.. It was this astrology god who was called allah that mohammed said was allah, the god of abraham.
This allah of Arabic is none other than sin the moon god from
Eden..
Both Wilderness of Sin and Sinai were named after this ancient moon god..
Ruth, God loves you and so do I. You know the Bible so well, far better than I do. I read everything you say. Most is new knowledge for me. God works through you. I agree the other religions are far worse than ours is. Other people in the world are into some crazy stuff. But God is telling us in his words that we have all been deceived.
What I am going to write next is going to make you want to pull my hair out and call me a heretic. That’s OK.
The TREE in the Garden
Symbols in this Book are: Adam and Eve are bare naked. Bare sounds like Bear. Adam and Eve are innocent. The fruit on the tree is knowledge. This is a strange tree. Now if you scroll up to the beginning when I came in I say the Roman Catholic Church is the Dragon. In Genesis, God is saying the same thing I am. God says it in symbols.
The Cross is made of Wood. Jesus is nailed to the Tree. The Tree bears Jesus. Jesus is the fruit on the tree. The fruit on the tree is Knowledge of good and bad. The Dragon speaks for Jesus preaching of good and bad. Jesus is innocent.
‘is pleasant to the sight, and good for food’ …
Every tree in the Garden … except for the FRUIT of the tree of Knowledge of good and evil.
I think it is …
1 – the tree of knowledge was one of those trees which was pleasant to the ‘SIGHT’
2 – ‘neither shall ye touch it’ …
3 – ‘*And* WHEN the woman SAW that the tree [was] good for food’
4 – *and* that it [was] pleasant to the EYES
5 – *and* a tree to be desired to make [one] wise …
Now I see in the comments all sorts of things, BUT …
I do not see the TRUTH.
The Truth is as the Scriptures says!
The Tree of knowledge of good and evil was in the garden … a REAL tree!
A tree is a tree. Not a symbol! A tree!
Not a yard of lumber … a tree .. a real tree forbidden by God to touch!
Not a body … Not a symbol … Not sex … Not anything else but a tree.
Why is it so hard to believe the Scriptures ???
Why distort and add and substract and multiply and divide?
Why waist time in idle chit chat?
Why not just call it the way it is??
IT is called UNBELIEF and therefore DISOBEDIENCE!!
To whom?? To God Almighty Creator of Heaven and Earth and ALL that is therein!
What ??? The Word which God Spoke and speaks is still NOT GOOD enough?
How long will you *willinfully* sin against My God!??
AND let me just say to you all … That tree was meant to be DESTROYED!!
AND it will be destroyed! Actually … it will burn!
Hi Abigail,
You wrote: “The Tree of knowledge of good and evil was in the garden … a REAL tree! A tree is a tree. Not a symbol! A tree!”
You can read this verse literally if you want. That is your choice. I see it differently, because I know Trees don’t grow knowledge. And I know that snakes can’t talk. My conclusion is that these are symbols. The Jews don’t sin against God anymore than I do. The Jews are right!
Snakes talk all the time … 🙂
Trees produces fruit after its kind.
But listen, this specific tree gave fruit of good and evil. A mixture!
An extreme!
If a tree produces *knowledge* it should not be of good and evil.
Hot and cold.
Lukewarm is a mixture.
This knowledge was prohibited by God.
Nephilim is a mixture.
Iron and clay is a mixture.
A mixture that doesn’t mix.
The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without MIXTURE into the cup of his indignation***
And it has nothing to do with Jews or Arabs or Americans or British or Africans or etc ….
Hi Abigail,
If a Tree is grafted it can bear fruits of from two varieties. The Old and New Testament is grafted together to make one book. Books come from the pulp of trees.
Here is some more from Genesis 3:4 to 3:6 –
Here the Serpent is telling her the truth. The woman did eat from the tree and did not die that very day. Her eyes did open and she had knowledge of good and bad. Just as the Serpent told her it would.
Proverbs 3-18..She [is] a tree of life to them that lay hold upon her: and happy [is every one] that retaineth her. THE SHE in this verse is speaking of God’s wisdom…So this verse identifies the tree of life as being God’s wisdom……Satan’s tree is also called wisdom.. This is the first recorded event whereby satan counterfeited god….His knowledge tree was a counterfeit of the tree of life..
Provrbs 3-19..The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens.This verse pretty much says the tree of life wisdom founded the earth…
Satan’s counterfeit of this is called the FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD… and his counterfeit of God’s creation was the delusional lies of astrology…Astrology was satan’s version of creation.. He said in effect …””LOOK UP and see the sun, moon and stars that I have made and come and worship me and my gods…Deut 4-19..
Cain and Abel thought they were worshipping god.. But it is evident they had different doctrines…Cain’s was the wisdom gleaned from the serpents tree and Cain thought an imposter was god..As I said before.. Jude 1-11 compares Cain’s way (doctrine) to Balaam and Core ‘s and their doctrines were astrology lore and egyptian lore…
Adam and Eve most definately died in spirit when they ate of the poison tree…The Adams were created in the likeness and image of god.. After sin God said they became like the one who taught them good and evil…This means they were no longer in god’s image…which means they were spiritually dead….The serpent lied…God exiled them from the tree of life so they could not eat of it and life forever.. and they died with a day.. 1000 years is a day in the lord’s timing…THEY DIED WITHIN A DAY…As God said “In the day you eat there of you will die…They died within a day…
God placed his spirit in man when he breated on Adam….Jesus restores god’s sprit to fallen man.. John 20-22..And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: The actual event of this occurs in Acts when a mighty rushing wind filled
them.. This was the breathe of God.. This was the breathe of Jesus who is God…
I think the amount of time that Adam and Eve were in the Garden is One Day. It is their Birthday and they are still wearing their birthdays suits. After a child is born the parents put clothes on their child that same day. God does the same thing. God is with Adam and Eve. They can converse with him. It almost sounds like Eden and Heaven are the same. But there arn’t any symbols that prove this to be true, except God says you will positively die. When you die in Heaven your born into the next world. In this case Earth.
There is a Gate at the Garden. There is also a Gate at the entrance to Heaven. Both have a guard at the Gate. Similar concepts. When you Die (last) in one World you are Born (first)in the Next. Last is First. Genesis is both First and Last.
God is the Author of Genesis. Its full of symbols, Gods trade mark. He puts two or more different stories into one. Mulitple meanings. It is the a true work of a Genius. I wish you could see it the way I see it.
Ruth, In Proverbs 3-18 The Tree of LIfe. My thoughts are that this is Solomom talking and not God.
Melanie…
Do you not know that the Bible is the WORD OF gOD.. God lived in these writers and wrote through them.. The Bible also cannot be understood unless this same spirit of God reveal it…
2 Peter 2-20, 21..Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake [as they were] moved by the Holy Ghost.
1 Peter 1-11..Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Revelation 19-10..
for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.
MOSES GOT HIS WISH….
Numbers 11-9..And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD’S people were prophets, [and] that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!…The testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy…
Interpretation – God is telling your at least two stories in the Book of Genesis with the same words. I want you to see the Symbols like I do. First the TREE, 1: a tree is a TREE, 2: twig, branch, stick are parts of a Tree, 3: and a Cross or Book are products from a tree. The Book is the Bible, cause that is what we are reading from. Knowledge comes from Books. The Bible contains both good and bad knowledge. Your getting the good with the bad. The Bible grows two varieties of Fruit, The first part is good and the second part is bad. The Fruit: Jesus is the Fruit on the tree. The Tree bears Jesus. Jesus is the only person I can think of that is attached(nailed) to a Tree (Cross). Satan is the Stick. The serpent speaks from the Stick(cross). Satan deceives, which is not the same as a liar. Satan says the truth and it is misleading. Deceive means: to use or practice deceit, syn beguile, betray, delude, mislead. This is what I do, I read the story twice. I read it literally and then I go back and read the symbols. I get more than one story out of it. I put the two stories together.
The serpent (Satan) says eat the Fruit, you will not die. Does this statement sound familiar to you. Jesus says, believe in me and you will not die. Satan says, Digest Jesus and you will not die. How is this poison? Because it deceives. You are lead to believe that all you have to do is believe in Jesus and you will live forever. It also leads you to believe that those who do not believe in Jesus are going to Hell. Satan is not lying to you, he is deceiving you, Satan does not say non-believes go to Hell. Satan says believe (eat) and you will live. Satan tells Eve the truth. Eve did not die when she ate the Fruit but it Poisoned her mind. The Roman Catholic Church is the Serpent. The Church like the Serpent, talks though the Cross (stick). Then we can go to the verse in Luke where it says women are not to teach men. Tell me that is not poison. If you listen to Luke, then I would be cut off, stopped, silenced and forced to stay at home. Could you imagine someone as intelligent as Melanie having to wear a burka, silenced, not allowed to work and forced to stay at home. That’s poison. God says do not eat the Fruit. Jesus is the fruit. Do not drink his blood (wine) or eat his body (bread). Do not take the sacrament. Human sacrifice is a Pagan practice. Your not going to die this very day but on Judgment Day your going to be naked and embarrassed, like Adam and Eve. The bible was good to look at and they ate it up. Everything is going to be revealed, (similar to your naked body), total exposure. Your going to see everything. It’s going to be a real Revealing, A Revelation. You are going to want to die. Your just going to want to die. Cause you were wrong. Do you know what it’s like to be wrong. I’ve been wrong. Everything you thought to be true dies, it dead and gone. It’s painful. No one likes to be told they are wrong, even if it comes from God himself. Deception is like poison, it gets in your body, it sickens the mind. Poison also cures and we learn from the poison. We learn, don’t eat from the tree. The tree does not want to kill you, it’s just telling you not to eat her fruit. Just like the snake. The snake says I have poison, mess with me I am going to bite you. God created the serpent to teach you a lesson in deception. You ate it up. The only way you can learn is the hard way. God is not going to send you to Hell for believing in Jesus, God is a fair Judge. Your not going to die a second death unless you’re a mean evil person. What about all of those people that came before Jesus, they are not all going to hell.. They didn’t even know Jesus, he hadn‘t been born yet. God put the tree in the garden and he knew you were going to eat from it. He put the serpent in the Garden too. Just like I tempted my kid with the cookies. I knew they were going to eat.
The Book of Genesis is a brilliant piece of work from God. Who else can tell two different stories in one? You don’t see this kind of genius at work in the New Testament. What you find in the NT are stories that even I could make up. This interpretation proves that God is real. I know there is a God, this is proof. Genesis is the Proof. He is telling you in the beginning what is going to happen in the future. Who else can tell you about the future? This interpretation could turn an Atheist into a Believer and a Muslim into a Jew. This interpretation brings us back into Harmony. We are all now on the same page in the same book.
Ruth, this is an excellent verse that you picked:
I hope that I have brought the spirit of God and his Revelations to this Site. I am Gods servant just as you are.
No Mealnie we are not on the same page….You have deceided that Jesus is satan…You have also deceided that satan is capable of telling the truth…
And Melanie.. Please read Genesis 3-22 again…It says we all are like satan in understanding good and evil…When you fully understand this you can forgive yourself when you know that you are in error and can correct it without fear..
Jesus is God and satan is not Jesus..When you say Jesus is satan you are saying God is satan…Satan is well pleased that you think he is god.. That has always been his plan for everyone..
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=republic-of-fear-2010-03-12
Turkey as the “Republic of Fear”
The Beasts of Revelation are Kingdoms according to the precepts in Daniel. That means the Beasts MUST BE KINGDOMS rather than Religions or single Men. Also the apostle Paul says that the Spirit of Anti-Christ was present and working during his time, and that anyone who confesses that Christ did not come in the flesh is an Anti-Christ.
The Anti-Christ is many people. The Bible says the Earth was given into the Hands of the Wicked and when Satan tempted Jesus he showed him the Kingdoms of the Earth and offered them to him. Satan has had Anti-Christs working in the Earth for thousands of years, we need to not just look out for “ONE SINGLE” man but a Future Nation or Kingdom I.E the “Age of Aquarius”…The New Age and the fact that Muslims will be out numbring all religions in a few short years. The Persecution of the Church is happening now to Christians in China, Darfur..etc. yet no Anti-Christ is here. We have mental persecution in America, Degredation of society, attack on the Family, Homosexuality rampant, the Church has been infiltrated if people can not see this they are blind and sleep. Its like a true Christian has no where to turn. Chances are most of his friends and family are Anti-Christs as they don’t believe Jesus came in the flesh or they don’t care.
People act like the Anti-Christ will pop up, all the Christians will know this or the Rapture will go down. This Anti-Christ will somehow convince the world in 7 short years to kill and persecute Christians(who number in the Billions, I mean if that the case you would think the Christians would form a refuge and guard it with militias in defence…I mean you have Billions of people to network with).
People we need to realize that it has taken thousands of years to set up the coming NWO. In the last Hundred or so years the New Age and Satanic movement has successfully broken down the Family, made Homosexuality seem natural, completely made the historical aspect of Christ a fairy tale and replaced him and the belief in God with “The Big Bang” and “Evolution”. We have been prepared mentally for an Anti-Christ. Not saying we should not be prepared but the fact is given history I think there is more than one Anti-Christ, the True Anti-Christ is Satan and he will use anyone to persecute the servants of the Most High…not sit around and wait for one man to be born.
A TRUE CHRISTIAN is hidden in the Hand of God.
What say you that a true Christian has no where no turn???
A true Christian is upheld by The Mighty Hand and Arm of God Himself!
People are just followers … either of The True LIVING God or of the grave.
Simple !!! No in between!
The historical aspect of Christ???
You are deluded! Christ was from the beginning till eternity!
Big Bang THEOry??
There is but ONE GOD Mighty to Save!
And iiiiifffff GOD is with you who can be against you?????
Answer …. GOD!!!!
JaPone:
I wish you could just go through all the postings and videos on this blog. It’s a puzzle, but you would see a picture emerge. I never thought I would see the United States as possibly Babylon, but I do today.
It will be destroyed. We have to be destroyed so the focus goes back over to the Revived Roman Empire and the Middle East.
How are they going to do that? First they have to do it economically. That could be happening real soon if you look at these web pages.
http://www.businessinsider.com/morgan-stanley-dollar-euro-reserve-holdings-2010-7#ixzz0tBDYFjMd
http://wallstreet.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2010/07/09/central-banks-start-to-abandon-the-u-s-dollar/
Destroy our natural resources:
Look at the Gulf Spill. Look at the videos:
Look at the Emero Conspiracy video on:
When all the chaos begins they pull out the Amero currency, We don’t have a choice.
We’re forced to become a part of the NWO.
If we rebel we’re put in these FEMA CAMPS.
I believe the anti-christ will be Islamic.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/2008-%E2%80%93-the-final-administration-of-man-in-america/
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/2014-2019-islam%E2%80%99s-countdown-to-the-12th-imam-mahdi/
A lot of people, New Agers and even Christians feel gemuimely sorry for the Muslims. A lot of people say 9/11 was an inside job. They are victims, pawns. Thats how they are going to take over, besides having the numbers to do it.
You are right, this is an evolving phenomenom. I’ve been watching this for 20 yaars, but I haven’t seen things move as quickly as they have in the last 1 1/2 years.
We didn’t have the technology to control people like we do now, either.
You need an Anti-Christ and a temple to fulfill The Abomination of Desolation. It’s just a repeat of what Antiochus Ephines did sacrificing a pig on the Jewish alter. Instead it will be a man setting up his image in the Holy place.
Three things you need: Israel, Jews and a temple. We have two out of three right now. The third is in the works.
That’s why I believe I will see the return of Jesus in my lifetime. That’s how I see it.
hi Kitti
You make some good points. Some assume the Babylon and the beast are the same.
However, Revelation shows that Babylon falls but the beast remains until the very end.
So they are different.
It might be that Babylon has to fall so the beast can take over – for a short time.
America might be Babylon, or the entire Western nations can be Babylon.
I once thought Babylon was the ancient Babylon revived as Islamic nations.
Another possibility is the ancient and modern Babylons rising parallel to each other. One assumes the old role (financial, world expansion), and one assumes the new role as beast.
Satan always counterfeits god…The first record of this in Genesis..The tree of life was god’s wisdom Proverbs 3-18,19….. The tree of knowledge of good and evil was also wisdom…Genesis 3-6…But of course it was Satan’s version of wisdom..
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The beast group of Rev 13 is a counterfeit of THE WAY….John shows us that it is the broad way of Matt. 7 that is built on the SAND ….. He stand on the SAND OF THE SEA and sees this beast rise up…in Revelation 13-1..
The dragon is a counterfeit of the spirit of god…The first beast is a counterfeit of messiah Jesus…
The second false prophet beast is a counterfeit of the real children of god who have the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of prophecy..
Babylon is a counterfeit of New Jerusalem which is THE BRIDE OF JESUS…Babylon IS NO WIDOW-Rev 18-7.. SHE IS is a QUEEN and is MARRIED TO THE KING OF Babylon WHO IS LUCIFER…Isaiah 14-4..
Lucifer, The king of Babylon is of the beast…Christian tares are being gathered into Babylon today….
..And it gets complicated…
The first beast comes out of the sea… He is of the fallen angels of Genesis 3 temptation …Ezekiel 28-2.. Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart [is] lifted up, and thou hast said, I [am] a God, I sit [in] the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; yet thou [art] a man, and not God, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God: verse 13..Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone [was] thy covering,
This first beast has transformed himself into an angel of light.. Means he comes as a messiah like Jesus the real light..This is Mohammed
Notice the second beast comes out of the EARTH.. This means this beast is of men.. men are made of earth…..
This earth beast is called a false prophet cause he pedals the Koran as the words of god…This earth beast is who kills all who won’t worship the beast.. Like they killed van goeh..and anyone who speaks against mohammed
The scary thing is the Bible and Mohammed both say the Mohammed beast will return…Mohammed said he will return with the name HUSSEIN as most of the 12 imams were also named…And the bible says…Rev 17-8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 17-10,,And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. Incidentally these heads (kings) are those cast out with that old serpent Satan and are his angels.. Of Rev 12…
This is the return of the beast who is the seventh king…Rev 17-11..And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
It says clearly that the seventh king is the eighth king…
Satan and his angels are tempting the entire world as they also did in the garden of Eden…Paul tells us about the end time temptation that was like Eve’s in 2 Corinthians 11 -3,4,14..
And there is much much more about these things..
Babylon is not America.. She is not Christianity less it be of the tares…She is the wife or queen of the beast… She is a counterfeit of the new Jerusalem who is the bride of Christ..She has been in existence since the garden of Eden.. The Bible says this..
hi Ruth
good comment and explanation of your view.
All these things you have said are opinions. God has the truth and still He wants us to use wisdom to understand all what He sets infront of us. Iam from, Nampula – Mozambique reading all these things.
Here is my thought as well: Satan is not coming in a simple way as many think about all the Kings you´re mentioning. Satan knows all these scriptures and what you are thinking. I have always felt terrified to write this but today is the real time the LORD HAS CHOSEN FOR HIS SAINTS TO OPEN UP THEIR EYES.
A WOUNDED HEAD…..to my opinion refers to SHAME. Africa has always been looked upon as a shame (wound) to the world. Nobody expected something with intelligence from African origin.
OBAMA has the African origin, thus, the wound being healed. The wound that many never thought it would be healed now getting healed. The other American leaders have been there to prepare the way, be it Republican or not, for him.
When OBAMA was in campaign, the whole world preferred him than anybody and thats how Satan planned it all. He was to emerge from the unkown within the elite so that you do not have many arguments before him about his past.
Satan is false. He pretends to be a Christian, Moslem etc just to make his way through. OBAMA is working hard to make sure there is peace, thus, the whole world has the same governing system..DEMOCRACY, hence the confusion in Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen and Syria. Governing systems will have to be unified so that he can operate accordingly.
OBAMA is the 7th and will also be the 8th king. Iam sorry to say this but you need this from an African like me. I know America through USDA Sponsored Programs in my country. All is a way how Satan has set up systems to make nations bow down before him. We have petroleum but we are waiting for America to react. All eyes are on USA.
As soon as governing systems are suitable for him. OBAMA will, in his 2nd term (8th kingship), be all different. It will happen. Systems are being set to make sure everybody is controlled. Plans are delaying with the terrosts (Iam not a terrost supporter). Somethings like terrorism are happening because God planned it in that way so that a certain Joao, Murriel, etc might come to know and receive Jesus while Satan is struggling with his systemic plan.
As soon as the world has one unique governing system, then he will demand a control over any single human through the 666 (be it a chip but anything biometric will be used).
With the 7 Year Israeli-Palestine Peace Plan, things are coming to shape because this will work and you will all say WOW, HE IS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAS MANAGED TO BRING PEACE TO THESE TWO NATIONS. Peace for Israel is the biggest sign for you to know the ANTI-CRIST. He will bring a temporaly peace. OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE, LET THE HOLLY SPIRIT BE YOUR EYES!
The Anti-Cristo is not coming like an ignorant being. He has prepared alot. Sweet speaches, Education and has been exposed to many things. I dont think OBAMA is ignorant, poorly educated, without information. Do not look at him as OBAMA, because if you do, he will seduce you with all his eloquency within him. It is not yet time for him, he is organizing systems with the help of many nations (kingdoms). The woman is there aside and is none other than the QUEEN (England)…the Prostitute because she pretends to help USA and yet on the other hand she has ties with the Islamic countries.
Pray to God and have faith. Do not do evil things. Love your neighbor and God. If you want to see these times, ask God to keep you alive. It is not far.
Thank you so much for your atention. I love you so much and I want you to be on the table on the day of banquet when we will see our KING FACE-TO-FACE!
I will continue this later….satan is not happy for me to continue…iam feeling hungry and always i want to write this i feel so many things. yoswajat@gmail.com
hello Josue
My goal is to encourage everyone to read and think about the Word of God. So your view is certainly welcome.
I think all the leaders of the modern world are now being positioned to receive the antichrist. So we see Tunesia, Egypt, and now Jordan with protests for change in government. These changes will not be good, but bad, and will lead to the next world war.
You are right about Satan. He would like to deceive us, so we must study the bible, pray, and be very careful about what we believe. As we do this, old opinions will pass, and more accurate views will form, as the holy spirit leads us.
I agree on your discription of the beast but about the women riding the beast (please refer Revelation Chapter 17) – it might be USA
see below
But the Woman riding the beast must
– be the great city(country) that has sovereignty over the kings of the earth
(now the only country which authorized over the kings is USA)
– with whom the kings of the earth committed sexual immorality and the earth’s inhabitants got drunk with the wine of her immorality.
(every king or president have relation with US government)
-dressed in purple and scarlet clothing (see the colors of US flag),adorned with gold, precious stones, and pearls
-On her forehead was written a name, a mystery “Babylon the Great, the Mother of prostitutes and of the detestable things of the earth
using holywood, the country(US) is a source of pornography and some blasphem on the most high
just like babylon wall,US Astronomy try to reach the residence of God
– drunk with the blood of the saints and the blood of those who testified to Jesus
if someone try to confuse the work of saints,the blood of saints is up on him – US
– sits on seven mountains (and kings) – in US you can find New york having such configuration
– sits on many waters(it means peoples, multitudes,nations, and languages)
Look the current composition of US ppl- it is from Europe,Africa,Asia… and different language.)
See also some verses below
Rev 18:4 Then I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of her, my people, so you will not take part in her sins and so you will not receive her plagues,”
– That means there are God people living in the woman (Istanbul doesn’t fulfil this – most of the residence is muslim)
18:12 cargo such as gold, silver,precious stones, pearls, fine linen, purple cloth, silk, scarlet cloth, all sorts of things made of citron wood, all sorts of objects made of ivory, all sorts of things made of expensive wood, bronze, iron and marble, 18:13 cinnamon, spice, incense, perfumed ointment, frankincense, wine, olive oil and costly flour, wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and four-wheeled carriages, slaves and human lives.
– Emphasize on ‘slaves and human lives’ ,who do that?
US in the form of DV lottery – Istanbul does’nt stisfy this
hi Tewahido
I agree to some extent. Many believe it is the USA. I entertain different views.
I did check and New York is NOT on 7 mountains. Istanbul has 7 mountains.
America does not deal in certain commodities like Ivory, frankincense, wine, olive oil bronze, and marble.
There is still an Islamic slave trade in Africa, and elsewhere.
Child slavery occurs in many countries, including America.
I do admit that the USA does share some of the qualities of the beast.
The beast may also be larger than just one country.
hi Marianne
There is a difference between the beast and the Woman sit on many waters.
I agree with your Beast description but not about the Woman.
1. Islam is the beast
2. USA is the woman.
This is my view but I am not quite sure on both assumptions.
Thank You
hi Tewahido
There are different possibilities with good reasons for each one.
I think America will fall. Timing is important.
Timing will reveal the reason for the fall, which I hope occurs after the saints leave this earth.
Who rides the Arab world(Islam)? USA
As we kno that the dictator over the Arab world is USA. This indicates The woman(USA) rides on the beast(Islamic nations).
Who ride USA? none
Which country in the world has sovereignty over the kings of the earth?
USA (can’t be Istanbul)
This again confirms USA have a very high probablity of being the woman.
Who sits on many waters(it means peoples, multitudes,nations, and languages)? Who?
Only USA.
(can’t be Istanbul)
We kno that the women is very rich country in the world according to bible.
Who is the richest country in the world? USA
(can’t be Istanbul)
Anyways all of us be awake!!!
Thanks,
Israel Rides USA
the seven mountain explanation might also in it self need further interpretation example mountain was considered a place of worship in the old testament!
So finally the beast and the horns destroy the woman sits on many waters. US will be wiped out if she is really the woman of rev 17.
I feel she influences and abuses most of human minds through holywood films and songs. Make most of the ppl not to respect each other. Civilization is thw systematic work of devil
Finally our Lord,the most high,wins !!!
Haleluya!!!
Juses wins ,he is the king of Kings forever!
Amen
And that is all that really matters. 🙂
Everyone! Read this and tell me what comes to your mind.
9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Revelation 20:9-10
What is the camp of the saints and the beloved city?
Israel & Jerusalem
Who/what is surrounding the camp of the saints and the beloved city?
Make a guess
In this verse there’s only one false prophet.
Who is the most popular “prophet” who claims to be God’s prophet, but is not accepted by both Jews & Christians? But was able to win so many followers.
Go ahead, make a guess.
hi jane
It is obvious, isn’t it?
thanks for the input.
Job 38-18.. and surroundering verses…..Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
BREADTH OF THE EARTH indicates the saints of Rev. 20-9 are those who understand about the light, death, hell, etc.. This would be Christians…I think the beloved city is the new Jerusalem which is the beloved city of god..It is Christianity,,, the bride….rev, 21-2,9,10…The new Jerusalem has the 12 apostles as the foundation..rev. 21-14…This is Chrstianity..Eph 2-20…
I think Camp simply means they are gathered together…..
As for who is surrounding this city it is satan and the men who are numbered as the SAND OF THE SEA Rev 20-7,8….The SAND OF THE SEA MEN would be Ishamel’s descendants…
This event is happening now…. Satan and his group are surrounding Christians with their doctrines of demons…
In this verse there’s only one false prophet.
Who is the most popular “prophet” who claims to be God’s prophet, but is not accepted by both Jews & Christians? But was able to win so many followers.
Go ahead, make a guess.
WOULD THIS BE MOHAMMED….
Or might it be balaam???
Muslims should know the answer. =P
I’m almost finished reading a very interesting book about this very subject..Titled “Uleashing the Beast” the coming fanatical dictator & his ten nation coalition” by author Perry Stone.He sure knows his stuff & is really knowledgable about all this & said he’s been researching it 30-some yrs! And basically the whole book is about how,from Bible scriptures, & prophesies,that the Anti-christ will also be a muslim and it will be called the kingdom of the beast,and how,for us he will be the anti-Christ ,but for muslims he will be their final prophet (the Mahdi)who will make everyone convert to Islam! …gosh that book is scary
thanks Emily
I love Perry Stone. He does a good job.
Beast #1 = USA & UK
Daniel 7:4 – “The first was like a lion, and had eagle’s wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man’s heart was given to it.”
The United States of America was originally a colonial territory of Great Britain. But IT WAS PLUCKED UP from the British Empire when the citizens of the thirteen original American colonies wrote and signed The Declaration of Independence in 1776. After 1776, and the rise of the United States of America, Britain became the largest empire in history.
Beast #2 = RUSSIA
Daniel 7:5 – “And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.”
The Russian Bear is a national personification for Russia. „it raised up itself“ = YALTA CONFERENCE (eastablished socialism / communism). „devour much flesh“ = bloodshed all over Eastern Europe & installation of a Socialst World Government.
Beast #3 = GERMANY
Daniel 7:6 – After that, I looked, and there before me was another beast, one that looked like a leopard. And on its back it had four wings like those of a bird. This beast had four heads, and it was given authority to rule.
4 Heads =
A) Holy Roman Empire (Yes, it‘s German) 962 – 1806
B) German Empire (Deutsches Kaiserreich) 1871 – 1918
C) Nazi Germany 1933 – 1945
D) EU (ruled by Germany, that‘s a fact) 1993 – present
Four Wings = Reference to the „spirit“ of the Roman Empire
A) Western Roman Empire 285–476
B) Eastern Roman Empire (Byzantine Empire) 395–1453
Beast #4 = THE NEW HOLY ROMAN EMPIRE (Order out of Chaos)
Daniel 7:7 – After that, in my vision at night I looked, and there before me was a fourth beat—terrifying and frightening and very powerful. It had large iron teeth; it crushed and devoured its victims and trampled underfoot whatever was left. It was different from all the former beasts, and it had ten horns.
This is a reference to the scarlet beast with ten horns from the Book of Revelations. OBVIOUSLY.
Revelation 17: So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written a mystery: BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Mystery Babylon = Sun worshipping cults from ancient Egypt & Babylon.
Remember a women rides the beast.
Revelation 17:4
And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication.
= THE VATICAN is the „spiritual“ centre of the „New“ Holy Roman Empire.
The current is 111th Pope. He is GERMAN. Remember this.
Remember that they worship Lucifer who wanted to be the most high.
They disguise satanic worship with sun symbolism and mysteries.
They MOCK and hate true Christianity. AND Jews. They are PRO-Muslim and will accept the Imam Mahdi when he enters the scene.
Where will the Imam Mahdi arrive?
Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sat.
Istanbul was Constantinople. Constantinople was the main capital of the Eastern Roman Empire. It‘s the only city built on seven hills. So watch Istanbul. This is where the Imam Mahdi might show up soon and do his miracles and wonders. His reign will last 7 Years and then Jesus Christ will return to judge ALL.
Istanbul is high likely to be the place where the Anti-Christ will appear. He is likely to be muslim and the so called Imam Mahdi. He will do wonders. He wants to be worshipped. Don‘t do it. Jesus Christ will return after the 7 years reign of the antichrist. He will establish the kingdom of God on earth.
But who is the woman on the beast?
Revelation 17:
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.
Angelika Merkel is riding the beast political. GERMANY! Again.
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. -Revelation 17
Great city = Berlin
EU = Germany‘s Fourth Reich
Germany never stopped doing their occult Agenda. It evolved and Germans became used to pagan worship and eastern mysticism. But the fact is: Germany HATES God, Christians and Jews. That‘s a FACT. When they hide behind the Roman-Catholic Church, don‘t fall for this crap. The Roman-Catholic Church worships Lucifer. And guess what, the Pope is German! They are fooling everybody again!
There is a prophecy about the number of popes before the Return of Jesus Christ. It is attributed to Saint Malachy and contains a list of 112 short phrases in Latin. They purport to describe each of the Roman Catholic popes (along with a few anti-popes), beginning with Pope Celestine II (elected in 1143) and concluding with the successor of current pope Benedict XVI, a pope described in the prophecy as “Peter the Roman”, whose pontificate will end in the destruction of the city of Rome.
This is a written prophecy that is NOT inside the Bible.
Fact is, the current pope Benedikt XVI is the 111th and he is 85 years old.
They are obsessed by numerology. They alway leave „supernatural“ traces no one can explain. This is how you teach mystery religions. With things nobody can explain. Because they are blinded by the light of Lucifer. But the wonders and powers will make you marvel.
Pope Benedict XVI is born on 16 April 1927.
The summer solstice is on 21st June 2012
If the pope dies on the exact day, when the sun is the „most hight“ … you‘ll be surprised of his numerology results.
He would be 31113 days old.
This makes 4444 weeks.
Or 85 days 2 months and 5 days.
8+5 = 13
2+5 = 7
To them these numbers mean something. These are „their“ great wonders they do to deceive people from their real belief in Jesus Christ and God.
Remember, this is currently the 111th Pope. Wouldn‘t that be a surprise if he will die on 21nd when the sun is the most high in year, ah?
The Return of Jesus Christ
Daniel 7:13
I saw in the night-visions, and, behold, there came with the clouds of the sky one like a son of man, and he came even to the ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. There was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all the peoples, nations, and languages should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
Matthew 24:30
And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
Mark 14:62
“I am,” said Jesus. “And you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of the Mighty One and coming on the clouds of heaven.”
Save yourself. The Last Days are coming. Islam will be established. Their Messiah will come and fool the world. You please inform everybody you can with this information provided here. Prophecies are about END TIMES. Don’t look to far in the past. You have to check your current time you are in And this pretty much looks like END TIMES to me. New Agers wait for Maitrey, muslims wait for the Imam Mahdi. Look at the big picture and read your Bible. The End of Duality is near. Jesus Christ will return. Spread the Gospel. Inform the people. Save some souls. Stop watching silly movies. Stop listening to music. Read your Bible and don’t stopt telling people about this what you have read here. Be ready, that you will have to confess to your faith very soon. It will be a matter of life & death. They will force you to reject Jesus Christ as your savior. But let me get this straight to you: if you believe in Evolution Theory, you are in fact rejecting God. God made the earth in 6 days and on the 7th he rested. Inform the people that they believe in false lies. As Jesus told, there will be lots coming in his name to deceive. Don’t fall for the deceptions.
– God made the earth in 6 days and on the 7th he rested.
– Evolutions Theory is wrong, tell the people.
– The Imam Mahdi will arrive and Islam will take over very large parts. He will do wonders. It will look like they will win. But they are wrong. Everything is written in the Bible. Tell the muslims. And DONT FORGET to tell them: About 20% of the Koran can’t be read or translated. It makes no sense at all. Google it. Tell them. 20% make no sense at all. That’s why they have so many people “teaching” the Islam in very poor language and wordings. They made it up. They make up whatever they want to and it will fit. 20% CANT BE TRANSLATED. Inform the world about this. The muslims shall not fall for the deception.
Be ready to stand to your belief in Jesus Christ as your savior. If anyone ask say something like this: “YES, i believe that God made the earth in 6 days and rested on the 7th. Mankind fell in sin and stepped away from God to worship Idols, Icons and false religions. His son Jesus Christ gave his life to offer redemption to mankind. His glory is eternal. God’s love and power is eternal and almighty. The Bible speaks the Truth. Blessed be all prophets and those who accept Jesus Christ to guide trough the darkness.”
Blessed be you the more you spread the word. The more you share faith, the more you help.
Be ready to stand to your faith in Christ.
Read the Bible.
Stop watching TV.
Stop enjoying yourself.
Start informing.
Teach the Gospel.
Tell them about what i have written.
Keep the 10 commandments!
Read the teachings of Jesus Christ and teach other.
Don’t stop reading and teaching.
PRAY. PRAY. PRAY.
Don’t be afraid. Be strongt. Keep your faith when they ask.
Do no commit.
Do not worship them.
Rather help them.
Inform them wisely.
Believe in Jesus Christ. Be prepared that they might want to do you harm or to force you to do stuff you don’t want to. Disgusting stuff.
Keep the sabbath. It’s from Friday evening to Saturday evening. Worship God. Bake some Bread (Matzo) and pray to God. Praise his son Jesus Christ. Inform others. Help them to wake up.
Stop watching the crap on TV.
Don’t enjoy yourself.
Don’t waste your time.
A lot of people out there can be saved and informed.
Tell them. Spread the word.
May be Jesus Christ be with all of you who believe.
May we praise his return and judgment.
Let’s pray to find mercy in his glory. AMEN.
I agree. We should be in prayer and watching the spirits in the world, not the actors on TV
Chip is the anti Christ, and so is Bob
1 John 2-22 identifies antichrist as being those who deny Jesus is Son of God and God is Father…This positively is ISlam…What we term antichrist leader is their messiah Mohammned….He is the one who has a deadly wound and returns during judgment… He promised when he returns he would return in his family name.. That name is HUSSEIN via his grandsons…He had no male heirs except these grandsons..He also promised his return would be as the sunrise in the west…. This sunrise is in reality the apollyon of Rev. 9-11… Apollyon is same as apollo the sun god alias satan….Has no one connect Obama’s logo and name yet to these ancient muslim prophesies???
The sun has risen in the western world…
Isaiah 59-19…So shall they fear the name of the LORD (JESUS) from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD shall lift up a standard against him.
The rising of the sun is the enemy that comes in like a flood of words and deceptions..The rising of the sun is the spollyon and it is the return of Mohammed alias Hussein Obama…
Paul said this great deception is the same as Eve’s.. 2 Corinthians 11-3,4,14…
The entire world is controlled from the shadows by a single power. The New World Order is just Babylon remaking itself over and over. Egypt, Assyria, revived Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, Rome and now the NWO that has run the world since that fall of Rome. It has morphed, changed, accreted new territory to itself. It is the whore of Revelation. It is about to be destroyed by the 8th kingdom in a planned passing of the torch. The beast that was, is not and yet is has always been satan. He was every king. He is the future king. Prepare to follow the Lord. Prepare noe. Repent your sin. aSK God to lead you.
John showed us the foundation of the broad way that is built on a sand foundation in Rev. 13-1..He stands on the SAND OF THE SEA foundation and sees the islamic beast rise up…God dubbed Ishmael’s blood line as the SAND OF THE SEA SHORE …..The broad way built on the sand foundation of Matthew 7 is about ISlam and IShmaell’s descendants…The beast of Revelation 13 is the broad way of Matthew 7…Think about it… Matthew 7 speaks of TWO WAYS only;…The narrow way built on the Rock which is CHristianity and the broad way built on the sand. is Islam….The first beast was Mohammed…He was a complete counterfeit messiah….He had a deadly wound but returns…..This return is the antichrist of the last hour of time…..I am sure it is Obama…..The false prophet beast are the muslim congregation that proclaim the koran is God’s words.. That is what false prophets do…They claim lies and/or satans’s words are God’s words…
The power behind the beast is the dragon and his seven heads..These are satan and his seven wicked spirits of Matthew 12-43,44,45 that inhabit the last wicked generation…Rev. 13 says the best throne and power are from the dragon and his heads..
The entire scenario of Matthew 7 broad way and the beast rev 13 is a counterfeit of God’ works with man…… The dragon and his seven heads. are the counterfeit of the spirit of God almighty…..The first beast is the counterfeit of the messiah Jesus….. The return of the beast is counterfeit of the return of Jesus…. The false prophet beast are counterfeit of the congregation of Jesus.The mark of the beast is counterfeit of God marking the Jewish people with his name and laws in their forehead and hand.. The false prophet beast of Rev 13 making fire come down from heaven means they have deceived people into thinking the beast is god almighty …as per Elijah and the false prophets of Baal and the test by fire…
Lucifer always counterfeits God and his works…. Lucifer is called the king of Babylon. in ISaiah 14….Babylon is his queen….This is counterfeit of Jesus and his bride…
Summary of nations addressed in end-times:
Psalm 83 – includes all, Syria and Iraq “Assyria”, Jordan “Edom, Moab, Ammon”, Arabia “Ishmaelites, Hagarites”, Lebanon “People of Tyre” since Tyre was destroyed (Ezekiel 26). This was partly fulfilled in the Arab Israeli wars since these armies are a “confederacy” (v. 5), “consult together with one voice” (v. 3). All these are Muslim.
Ezekiel 30 – the nations of North Africa, including Egypt and Sudan in the time of the “Day of the Lord” – a clear reference to the end time destruction of Islamic nations.
Amos 1 – Syria (vs. 1-5), Gaza (v. 6), Lebanon (v. 9), Jordan “Teman” (v. 11), Iraq “Bozrah”, Amman Jordan “Rabbah” (v. 14), “Gaza” (v. 6).
Amos 2 – Jordan “Moab”
Joel 3 – This is Armageddon (v. 2) which includes Egypt and Jordan (v. 19), Lebanon (v. 4). Why does Armageddon have Muslim nations by name?
Jeremiah 6 – Jeremiah speaks of Sheba (probably the area of modern Yemen.
Jeremiah 9 – Egypt, Edom, and Ammon
Jeremiah 25 – Moab
Jeremiah 48 – Moab and others.
Jeremiah 49-51 – The destruction of Babylonia, today’s Arab world – Jordan, Syria “Damascus”, Iraq “Bozrah”, Saudi Arabia “Kedar”, this includes past as well as a future outlook in end-times. Iran “Elam” (49 v. 37).
Obadiah 1 – “For the day of the LORD [is] near upon all the heathen” “Esau” “Edom” “Teman” – Jordan and the Arabs.
Ezekiel 25 – Jordan “Moab”, Saudi Arabia “Teman, Dedan (v. 13)”.
Ezekiel 27 – Lebanon “Tyre, Zidon, Gebal” (v. 9), Iran “Persia” and he adds Libya “Lud”, and Phut (North Africa). This takes in middle Asia and North Africa (chapter 27:10,21), just as Ezekiel predicted in chapter 38.
Ezekiel 30 – The fall of the nations of North Africa, including Egypt, in the time of the “Day of the Lord” – a clear reference to the end time.
Ezekiel 35:12-15 (Edom, Jordan)
Daniel 11 – Egypt (verse 40)
Habbakuk 3 – “Teman” and “Paran” “Midian” are Saudi Arabia (center of Islam), and “Cushan” is Sudan (Cush). “God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.” This is definitely Messianic pertaining to the second coming.
3:3-7, 12-16 [“He beheld, and drove asunder the nations [Midian]; and the everlasting hills [nations] did bow” (v. 6), “Thou didst thresh the heathen in anger” (v. 12)
Isaiah 11:14 – Jordan “Edom, Moab”
Isaiah 13 – “Behold, the day of the LORD cometh” (v. 9), For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light” (v. 10), is end-times and includes Babylon (Iraq, Arabia, all Muslim).
Isaiah 14:24-27 – (“I will break the Assyrian [Iraq] in My land, and tread him underfoot”). Here Satan (Lucifer) is addressed as a man “They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms” (Isaiah 14:16)
Isaiah 14:28-32 – (Philistia, Gaza) Muslim
Isaiah 15-16 – (Moab/Jordan) Muslim
Isaiah 17 – (Damascus, Syria) Muslim
Isaiah 18 – (Punishment of Sudan), 18:6 matches the birds feeding on the dead in Ezekiel 38/39 after the Sudanese (Cush Ezekiel 38:5).
Isaiah 19 – “Egypt will fear Judah” (v17), then Egypt will be healed.
Isaiah 21 – against Arabia (Kedar, Tema, and Dumah) The curses on Arabia “burden of the desert of the sea” (v. 1). Dumah is in Saudi Arabia near Yathrib in verse 11, today called “Dumat el-Jandal”, also Kedar in verse 17. These prophecies find both historical and future fulfillment as well. “The glory of Kedar shall fail” (11-17). What other then Mecca and Islam could the “glory of Kedar” be?
Isaiah 31 – “shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof” is the end when Messiah fights “The Assyrian”, “The Egyptians”.
Isaiah 34:2-8 – (Edom, Jordan) note “it is the day of the Lord’s vengeance, and the year of recompenses for the controversy of Zion” (v. 8).
Isaiah 63:1-6 – (“Who is this who comes from Edom (Jordan), with dyed [blood-stained] garments from Bozrah (Iraq).” This is definitely second coming of Messiah and these nations are Muslim.
Zechariah 9:1,2 – (Syria, Lebanon) Muslim, Lebanon is the heart of Hezbullah.
Zechariah 9:5 – (Gaza) Gaza is a Muslim city and the heart of Hammas.
Zechariah 10 – Syria, Iraq and Egypt’s armies destroyed in Lebanon (v. 10)
Zechariah 12:2 – “I will make Jerusalem and Judah like an intoxicating drink to all the nearby nations that send their armies to besiege Jerusalem”. All the nations “round about” (RSV) or “near by nations” (NTL) “peoples around” (NASB), “surrounding peoples” (NKJV) Israel are all Muslim, regardless of which translation of the text one uses. Some say that the entire world’s nations are around Israel for the use of the term “round about” only pertains to the fact that they surround the borders. Yet the verse is clearer when we see the usage in the continuation of the verse “that send their armies to besiege Jerusalem”. So this understanding is flawed since it doesn’t make sense that “surrounding armies” send “armies” to surround Jerusalem. The correct rendering of the verse then must be that these nations are nearby (round about) and send there armies to lay siege on Jerusalem. The Old Testament references to the nations “round about” are widespread, with over 50 references to these entities between Deuteronomy 6:14 and Zechariah 14:4. In passages where these are identified by name (e.g., Psalm 83), they are Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, the “Palestinians” of Gaza, the Bedouin PLO within Israel, Jordan (Moab/Edom/Ammon[the ancient name which Amman the capital of Jordan is derived from]) and Saudi Arabia.
Micah 5:1-6 – agrees with Isaiah 14 (Satan, Anti-Christ) in which the destruction of “the Assyrian” upon Israel’s mountains is foretold, and that “(Israel) shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword” (v. 6).
The whole of Scripture regarding end-times with minor and major prophets speak on none else than the Islamic world.
good points
Many seem to rely on Revelation and forget about the other prophets 🙂
All the round about nations already freed Jerusalem before 1400 years.
round about nations may be Iran, syria. May be these 2 countries have a problem with Israel and they may get help from Russia. Why Russia?
My Question is Why America submitted Iraq to Iran.?
Why Iran is Manufacturing such a huge amount of weapons and nothing is done to stop like they did to Saddam Hussein?
Here is the real story.
1. Since Israel is Ruling America and Europe with its banking system, all wars is done for the sake of Israel.
2. On the current situation, Israel is trying to ignite a war between America and Russia. The only route for this to happen is Iran and Syria. If America kicks Syria and Iran, Russia will not sit idle. They will respond to America immediately for following reason.
1. Iran is border to Russia.
2. There was a plan to put a pipeline to Europe via Syria. This will stop Russia to dominate Europe.
You know what does this mean? America and Russia will lose their superpower ability if they fight each other.
Hence, the result a new superpower. who. Israel
Now, if you see the political situation, USA is turning its face from Israel. Why America is preparing for war.?
Who is trying to attack America.?
Is the threat from inside like 9//11 or from out side.?
if it is from inside, why?
if it is from outside, why?
Who has the ability to attack America whether from inside or outside.?
1. Israel- They are already inside America. They have power to force America to do whatever they want on behalf of Israel. They control the banking system. They control the the economy. This is the first time that Israel has been reject for what she wanted. May be, may be,…, some people with military power in the PENTAGON has rejected the Israeli plan to attack Syria and Iran. Now, the American banking system and economy is in collapse.? why? Because, if you kick the banking system that is financing each and each war for America, you can kick Israel and its power over America and the world. It means that the war against Israel is already started. Now the Dollar collapse is planned. China started money swapping centers in Europe. May be China, Russia, America, Europe, Muslims have united against Israel. Who knows what is going on back of the stage.?
Believe me one day Israel will be without any help and destroyed from the face of the earth. You know why?
1. They rejected Jesus and Crucified him as the bible says. Even one day these Christians will turn their face from Israel and kick her like a penalty.
When Jesus you comes back, what you will do?
1. He will crucify the people who Crucified him. That is logic.
You can not jail Muslims for the crime they have not committed. You can only let stand in a court the criminal or the guilty one but not the arabs or chinese or Christians or etc. The only Criminal Against Jesus is Israel. According to the Jesus book (The Bible) She Crucified him.
Why he has to come back?
to kill Chinese ? For what crime he will destroy Chinese. They don’t even know him. The logic is that he will come to revenge against Israeli.
2. They are running each and every dirty business in the world including pornography.
3. They control the petrol fields in the middle east with their nuclear arsenals and via America.
I want to ask my fellow Christian brothers a simple Question.
1. if your friend is criminal, what is the possibility that the court will jail me not your friend. NONE.
why NONE.? Because you cannot declare someone as guilty for the crime he didn’t commit. Jesus was crucified by the Jews not by Muslims.
Why are you declaring Muslims as guilty instead of Jews. are you afraid of Jews?. Why are after me for the crime i have not committed. Go after the Jews. In fact, Jews are afraid of Muslims and that is why they want help from Christians to fight Islam. They have been kicked out of Jerusalem before 1400 years and they were not able to come back until 1948.
It will take me more than a month to depict the whole picture of this mysterious world.
Who knows what is in the back stage.
China – silent
Europe – Murmurs
Russia -facing the enemy
America – inside fight between Jews and Christians
Muslims – Sunni – waiting for Mehdi
Iran – boasting that Mehdi will be from Shia
The main thing is what is going on inside the meeting room.?
You spend too much energy blaming Israel for every thing.
Israel does not control banking. the Illuminati does.
WE have a ruler who hates Israel because he is muslim and a communist.
The real destroyer in this world is satan.
Alot of these comments confuse me even more
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Istanbul, Mecca, Rome or Budapest. Out of these four which ones are great cities that reign over the kings of the earth?
Whiic Nation can influence other nations and Kings? whathas Rome to offer the world? Saudi has Oil which makes the nations prosperous (it is factories and machinery taht make the world go round not money) anyways, the RCC although sending many to the lake of fire, they are not antichrist. Antichrist denies the Son – Rome is on 7 hills, Mecca has 7 mountains, the true translation of the Greek is mountains not hills
And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which Reigneth over the kings of the earth.
But mecca had no influence over the kings of the earth in the past and was not a great city until Mohammed came about. John was told as if this city was common and powerful.
Sync we forget in our day that Mecca has represented Islam as their most holy ciity and that Islam has ruled the entire known world of the Bible for 1400 years and even their wheeling and dealing in oil and riches and slaves just as Babylon is described has been and is the center of the world of Daniel, Isiaah and Revelation etc has not altered though it falters on the judgements have begun.
The Western world is decadent but it is also different because of the blessings that have come from God to peoples throughout our part of the world and that blessing is on us because of Bible enlightenment and the Jews and Christians who have shared it. For our western world has not always been under the backwards leftist religion of liberalism and evolution as we see today that demands that all live out their vile laws of Molech, the slaughter of the unborn and that their is no God but we have all come from apes and that the marriage of same sex is greater than what God teaches for to them there is no God. Education, freedom the right to own lands etc. was not for the common man and serf etc but, it was once only for the rich and wealthy and monarchy and Catholic Church Hierarchy.
This is only altered in fact fo rthe last few hundred years because the scriptures were brought back to the people and the teachings of Yeshua have effected our world as the Islamic world was not because of the backward and demeaning teachings of Muhammed. We all have only God to thank for His influence throughout the west that we have not lived as in the Muslim world and yet their decadence especially in Saudi Arabia where Mecca is, is exactly as fallen Bablyon of Revelation is described.
I do not understand very much but I know there is a reason that the four angels chained in the river Euphrates were not in the New York Harbour or Rome or anywhere else because they are the ones creating the hate and violence of Islam today and since Satanès seat in in Turkey and Mecca is its heart where the Sauds spread their hate and Iran spreads their armies slowly through the Islamic world, all, who have slaughtered all non-muslims and none may live there that do not worship or have the mark of this beast of Islam today and while the media fawns and worships and defends Islam they slaughter all Christians and non muslims in their lands and are ignored by the great liberal left mouth of the media today (Never has such existed before) such who has and does hate Christians and Jews.
The Euphrates river begins high up in central Turkey and flows down into modern Syria, cutting right through the center of both Syria and Iraq before emptying into the Persian Gulf near Kuwait. At the border of Turkey and Syria the Euphrates comes quite close to the Mediterranean Sea before cutting back east towards Iraq and Iran.
Coming down from Turkey into western Syria, the Euphrates river divides the East from the West; and its long course from Syria to the Persian Gulf divides the Middle East into the ‘North’ and ‘South’ familiar in the words of Daniel.
There is much for us all to think about for these are those days and we are the generations that live to see such things that have and are come to pass.
This separation also divides a Persian north from an Arab south. A future ‘Maginot’-type of line with those kind of perimeters could only occur in the event of an Islamic civil war.
“…I heard a voice come out of the four horns…it said ‘Release the four angels that are chained up at the great river Euphrates’. These four angels had been put there ready for this hour of this day of this month of this year, and now they were released to destroy a third of the human race.” (Rev.9:13-15).
The nations are Gods Sword and while He says He gathers the Nations to judge them on the mountains of Israel where they will fall He also says He has reserved those nations who will bring His sword upon Islam.Ezekiel 38
21 I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,” says the Lord God. “Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. 23 Thus I will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the Lord.”’
Thus says the Lord God: Behold, I am against you, O Gog, the prince of Rosh, Meshech, and Tubal. 4 I will turn you around, put hooks into your jaws, and lead you out, with all your army, horses, and horsemen, all splendidly clothed, a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords. 5 Persia, Ethiopia,[b] and Libya[c] are with them, all of them with shield and helmet; 6 Gomer and all its troops; the house of Togarmah from the far north and all its troops—many people are with you.
We all know that every nation named in Ezekiel, Isiaah, Jeremiah etc are all Islamic today and were Persia, Babylon, Assyria Greek Empires and today they are all Islamic …Babylon with a different face on it.Ezekiel 38 and 39 shows us the nations that surround Israel and the place of their burial and it is not in America or Rome though all nations will be judged also but the main thrust is exactly where all the scriptures point to the middle east.
4 You shall fall upon the mountains of Israel, you and all your troops and the peoples who are with you; I will give you to birds of prey of every sort and to the beasts of the field to be devoured. 5 You shall fall on the open field; for I have spoken,” says the Lord God. 6 “And I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in security in the coastlands. Then they shall know that I am the Lord. 7 So I will make My holy name known in the midst of My people Israel, and I will not let them profane My holy name anymore. Then the nations shall know that I am the Lord, the Holy One in Israel. 8 Surely it is coming, and it shall be done,” says the Lord God. “This is the day of which I have spoken.
All nations and peoples of the world will be judged and will fall as the statue of Daniel shows us and the Lord will set up His Kingdom but, the main thrust and judgements seem to all involve the judgements on the nations that scattered Israel, slaughtered the saints and hate the God and the people of the Jews and Christians and have set up their replacement of their false prophet, false religion, false god, false temple on the Temple mount of God of Israel, and altered the Words of the Bible where John said that any dare do this they shall have their names taken out of the Book of life if they change one jot or tittle. Only Islam has done this very thing. And all who have taken this mark of Islam will have their names taken out of the Book of Life as will all who reject the Son of God and Righteousness and Truth.
heres something I have but am still trying to piece together, so maybe a little premature! the beast that comes out of the sea is the english founders of america! the mouth of a lion-english speaking. body of a leopard- the black slaves they brought to the country that was their body of physical labor. the feet of a bear- the native indians that they crushed in war, the feet also meaning connected with the land! the women on the beast is christs church not a completely false religion, because it fools even gods elite- if possible! the false church could be the pentecostal religion started in los angeles- reason they call fire from heaven in view of all men! the tongues fit this description! it is falsified! the mark of the beast on the right hand or the forehead is the act of being slain in the spirit. so one exercises the gift from his hand or one receives from the forehead! it is actually the spirit of satan masquerading as god. he sets him self up as god in the temple! the human temple of god and pretends to be god! no can buy or sell without the mark. is that no-one can get or receive salvation and gods gifts without submitting to this erroneous teaching which is made by man’s imagination, so it is a man made father son holy spirit! and is false and not gods working but a false Christianity. based on error and ones own ego for spiritual greatness! like the Babylonians whom tried to build there own way to heaven and god caused them to speak in different tongues so history is representing itself! read the whole of isaiah 28. there is more in isaiah also that talks about tongues and how its users stumble like they are drunk but are not drunk from wine! the ten heads with thirteen crowns-3 extra crowns than heads represent a fake presence of the father son and holy spirit, which ain’t really there! hollywood is in los angeles and is the city of harlots, many woman prostitute themselves to get into acting, and also film brings porn to our screen as well as other corrupted messages! even the first internet was switched on from here. interesting is called the city of angels! this is what i have been getting so far, but yet to fully decipher everything and maybe have holes! i am truly worried about blaspheming the holy spirit by calling a group of christians of the devil so i am leaving it open as not completely sure but certainly have some suspicions, because all these years i have tested their fruit and its bad! i myself in early days fell to its draw, and recognise the error of my ways! i ask all Christians at all times to stay truthful and one should never fabricate truth even if it will save a soul in the process- you will not have the lords backing! and it is not of god ever to lie or exaggerate it is of the evil one!
that is a unique view. there are many candidates that resemble the beast. just keep your eyes open and see what happens next.
The beast of Rev 13 whose description is of a lion, leopard and bear is explained in Hosea 13-7, 8..Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe [them]: I will meet them as a bear [that is] bereaved [of her whelps], and will rend the caul of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.
This means the Rev 13 beast-lion, leopard, bear will be as god to the people..
The rev. 13 beast is in reality satan’s counterfeit of God complete with a false messiah beast and false prophet earth beasts who say the koran is god’s word…
Rev 13 is satan’s version of God’s kingdom… Babylon is his ongregation/queen aka muslims..
Thanks for that! i much appreciate being corrected. please what is your veiw on pentecostal teaching! not to mention all other churches flaws! i have been witness to an antichrist running our old church him being exposed to fraud, false testamony, giving false testamonies ect ect. if none of us christains detected it for all those years, years of visions and words from god, yet god fail to mention this deception to any of us, how can we trust anyone coming in the name of the lord. every church i know is incorrect. and i struggle really stuggle to know the truth! all my labors into the word of god don’t seem to pay off i still find error! i doubt i have the spirit of god anymore! maybe i grieved it at some stage and it fled and now i live in a dillusion of being saved! and if so what can i do! please pray for me! i love god and dont want to be erronous in any way! so never want to be working against his will- thankyou!
David
Many pentecostals have false conversions in their search for the “sensual” experience. (see James 3:15, Jude 19) Many of the leaders of these churches are nothing more than “con men” out to make a buck on their “ministry”. Some are even more so working for the “adversary” himself, and are imparting demonic spirits, not the Holy Spirit.
A true Christian faith is based on what is “not seen” (hebrews 11). It is based on a conviction of sin, and the inability to save ourselves. Repentence at the foot of the cross. Once the Holy Spirit enters you he will never leave. The fact that You refer to the “spirit of god” as “it”, Tells me this was not the Holy Spirit that was in you?? That spirit, whatever it was left. IF (Note the Big letters) this spirit in you fled, then perhaps this is the sign that you need to know that the Lord is with you. But the Holy Spirit has not revealed himself to you yet. Read John 17.
God bless
To those who are pentecostal who may happen to read this, this is not a condemnation of ALL pentecostal leaders. I could say the same of the Baptists, and the catholics, or whatever denomination. There is a lot of “rot” in all the churches, as per the work of Satan and his wolves. It is Jesus who will deal with them when he comes.
thankyou dru,
i am at least hopeful because once a few years ago i got a vision from god of a yellow flower like a daisy opening up to the sun and god say you will know the true light like this flower knows the sunlight! during prayer at a baptist church! one of the two after i said this said really thats interresting i got a vision of you in a dark room trying to feel for the light switch and suddenly the whole room lit up like day! this has helped me hang on till god reveals the truth to me. interrestingly the second guy was a pentecostal type at least in spirit and was rude and obnoxious and would often interrupt and speak over the other guy and also me! i know this mans spirit and i have seen it time and time again and i detect within seconds of meeting someone with this type and i imediately go into defence mode against this. this spirit is proud and all who have it behave foolishly and its work is to bring a false witness to christ! it seems its the devil masquerading as the holy spirit, not just as god, like in revelation! i have witnessed time and time again! even ministers lose self control to this spirit and even have a perpensity to yell during preaching, like yelling is to convince people they have the power of god on them! this is shameful behavior and i am against it! so if there is some truth to this, this is shocking and terrifying and i cannot help but not warn others of it! how-ever alot are given over to this! and they see me as the devil or something! i have also witnessed a prophetess whom leads her own bible study. and she starts by giving messages from god to each person and everyone hanging on her every word! i wanted to correct her but was tired at this point of putting my neck on line time and time again. so just left that group! i feel at times i am but a fool myself, so why do i challenge these things! i sometimes wish i was mute so i cannot anymore. but when the fire fanned by the injusteousness stirs within me, i cannot help but challenge these things! which makes me pretty much an outcast to these people!
thankyou also Marianne,
it does though worry me when my views don’t match the views of others! however having said that theirs not anyone i can trust but god! i can’t even trust myself to be always correct! so if iam wrong i hope and pray god reveals it quickly! and that so many differences of opinions over meanings of scriptures can be resolved and that all the variants don’t cause some to lose faith and hope in truth! and i apologise that i speak if i am not gifted in this area. i am just putting it out there to see if iam recieving these things from god or whether its just a fragment of my imagination! so if anyone has the gift of discernment please correct me and shut me up! i won’t take offence, iam asking for discernment!
Jesus said the wheat and tares grow up togeter till the days of seperating….when He will remove the tares from his church…The tares have most definately brought lies into the Christian church….This is one of the reasons i believe the Bible and rely on holy ghost revelation, not mens interpretation..
David,
There are multitudes of Interpretations out there for the end times. I think in the end, all who believe will and do hold a piece of the truth, but no one person holds all of It. I think that was part of God’s plan, until he is ready to unseal those things.
I do not even think any one “church” holds all the truth, as the Lord divided his Spirit among the seven churches.
Regarding your “theory” above, I have found that most who leave a church, see the evil within that church because of their disillusionment. Many former catholics automatically see the pope as the Antichrist…etc. This is reactionary Thinking. Over time, the complexity of God’s plan will make you see that is less so. And the people in many of these churches hold to the Basics of the faith, though their leaders may be less than perfect. Some churches are fully apostate as well. Some have an error in their doctrines that leads to dead churches (calvinism being one, having the doctrine of God’s foreknowledge and predestination take supremacy over the great commission) I suspect pentecostals fall into this last category.
My advice to you is give it time. Study to show thyself approved. Your theory makes many interesting points, especially with regard to the woman riding the beast. The Identity of Babylon varies from person to person, The beast, the falseprophet…etc. One day, they will be revealed with certainty. Till then we speculate. We see through a glass dimly, or something like that is what Paul says. Each time we read the word things come into better focus. Have faith that God is in control.
Be blessed.
David,
Sorry that second paragraph makes it sound like pentecostals have the same error as calvinists…LOL. The point being that they have an error that leads to false conversions, because they see the sole test of salvation as being speaking in tongues. Whereas the test found in scripture is found in 1 John 4:1-6….Jesus was fully God, and he was Fully Human (flesh). Every false religion stems from a denial of one or the other of these. from the Gnosticism, which denies Jesus was fully human, to Mormonism which says he was not God before but became God, To Islam which sees Jesus as just another prophet.
Iam reading all your commentaries. Interesting indeed. In these days, something underground is happening. A false prophet is rising and a way is paved for him: economic crisis, pope’s resignation, arab uprising etc. This man who is rising will combine both religions and act like a peace maker or rather, father of faiths (Not the REAL Faith). He will represent the gods BUT not God. Thus; antichrist. So, my advise to you all is: do not point out one religion as a possibility to bring the liar. He will stand for all and you all know him but you are doubting. May God’s time come so that your eyes be opened. He has mercy on you all. Keep your faith in Jesus.
Josue
Yes, the way is being paved, and it is a wide road. Here is something to consider. There are seven major World religions. The beast is said to have seven heads. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Bhudism, Taoism/confucianism/Mystycism, Secular Humanism/atheism/new age (“Coexist”). All But one denies that Jesus is Lord. Many in Christian churches do not understand why Jesus is Lord is the most important tenet of our faith, and are easily swayed to follow these arguments. This to me is why the “Falling away must come first” (2 thess 2:3). This will separate the tares from the Wheat, Part of God’s plan. They in turn will persecute those who are not fooled. (Matt.24:9-14 ,Luke 21:12-19)
If the next Pope, whoever he may be, Compromises one little bit on this belief, Such as saying Jesus was the “Angel of the Lord”, meaning he was created but now God, Or that He Was not fully God when he was on this earth in the flesh. Then he will probably bring a Billion or more into this coalition with him. Now Imagine if Some protestent church leaders follow his lead. “Two heads like a Lamb” which will lead to people worshipping the image of the beast. Then the seven heads are one beast.
I am not 100% certain on this, but it is very plausible.
All the signs and wonders will be on the side of the adversary, while all we will have is faith in His promise to come again. Hebrews 11:1
God bless
dru
one can consider Jesus as the angel of the lord without denying his divinity. The OT term for him varied, and was limited by man’s understanding and terminology.
Sometimes there is a reference to the AOL, other times he is referred to as “the Lord” other times, he is called “a man” other times, he is seen as the son of man in heaven, or “the son,” etc. this does not mean he is created. he was just a mystery man that occasionally appeared in scripture. I was thinking of doing a post on this.
he was given different descriptions to prepare mankind for his arrival on earth so that they would recognize him. however, when it did happen, many jews had not read their bible….so they missed it.
Theophany is not to be mistaken with Jesus incarnation. God can appear as anything he wants. a burning Bush for one. His Sonship is evidence of his incarnation, That he was fully Human, as is “Son Of Man”. While in the flesh, He was fully God, but chose to not use his Power to prove he was God. Incarnation is something totally different than God appearing as something.
your point is……?
Marianne,
Christophanies and theophanies occured throughout the OT. Jesus appeared as a captain of the Lord’s army to Joshua. Well you would not say that he was elevated to the status of King from captain back then, would you?
God appeared as a burning bush to Moses, But you would not say that he grew up into the tree of life now?
This, however, is what all false religions do with the angel of the Lord theophany/Christophany in order to pervert the Gospel.
IF Jesus was not fully God, He then would have been making himself out to be another god, and as you know God is one.
IF Jesus was not fully God while on earth Then his sacrifice would have been insufficient to forgive our sins.
If Jesus was not fully Human, then His righteousness would have been a hoax. And his death and ressurrection would be meaningless to mankind.
Christophanies and Theophanies are a foreshadow of the incarnation. So I agree with your initial comment. But they should not be used to describe the nature of the Godhead. God Was and Is and Is to Come. Jesus Was and is, and Is to come. They are both eternal, and both God, and they are ONE God. Jesus is God incarnate (in the flesh). He did not just appear, he came!
true
“Ruth”
Sorry for replying under your comment. Your two gravatars look almost the same. I agree with what you wrote.
1 John 2-22..Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
This verse completely disqualifies the catholic church as being of antichrist spirit including the pope…
It qualifies Islam, mohammed, koran and muslims as being antichrist…
It also qualifies the pharisees who had Jesus killed as being antichrist..These all denied Jesus is son of god…
Satan and his seven demons are the sprit of antichrist
People of the antichrist spirit are indwelled by satan and his seven demons as stated in Matthew 12-43,44,45..
Those of the antichrist spirit of John’s day were the idumean pharisees….
Those of the latter days are muslims….
The antichrist comes indwelling his messiah…those that follow this messiah are also indwelled by the spirit of antichrist….This is satan’s version of Christian rebirth whereby men are indwelled by holy ghost aka Jesus..
Ruth,
i do not think the Pope is the antichrist. And i agree that Catholics do not deny that Jesus is the Son of God. As your first comment suggests, tares are in all churches…including the RCC.
The Pope, MAY be the false prophet though. The two heads like a lamb is satan’s attempt to immitate the two witnesses. which to me means that this falseprophet will be Judeo/Christian in appearence (I am about 50% on the pope here). I think the Antichrist could be Muslim, though I am leaning more towards a “secular humanist” figure I am about 75% certain it is the latter. I think the dragon is the Islamic Mahdi (90% certainty on this last one for me)
The woman riding the beast Is either the catholic church or Judaism. My inclintion is catholicism and rome, though Judaism and Jerusalem are gaining ground. (maybe 60% to 30% here, with 10% uncertainty)
Dru
a false prophet is someone who speaks about future and it never happens. I have never heard the Pope speak about future so for me it is easy to understand that the Pope is not the false prophet. muhammed is a false prophet and more muslims will probably be.
Adam
The problem is that you think that prophecy is only “foretelling” the future. The False prophet does not do this, therefore the test of a prophet found in Deut. 18:22 will not apply.
And then He is also “Allowed” to work signs and Wonders, in order to deceive. Deceive whom? “Those who are Perishing” (2 thess. 2:10).
I suggest you take the time and read revelation before commenting. I know its not in your bible, and your church doesn’t believe it. If that is the case, then you should comment on different topics.
Be blessed.
Dru I have read REV between 5-10 times. I am here to discuss REV.
Lucifer said, “I WILL BE LIKE GOD”
and he did..
He came as a messiah like Jesus even claiming blood lines to Abraham…
He brought a gospel as did Jesus
He said he was the way, the truth and the light as did Jesus
He said he ascended into heaven and descended into hell as did Jesus
He also promised to return as did Jesus also promise…
Jesus is the real Christ… Mohammed is the antichrist..
1 John 2-22 proves who mohammed is..
Those who follow the real hrist are indwelled y his holy ghost spirit…
Those who follow mohammed are indwelled y mo’s antichrist spirit..
The reason why I shy away from what you say, is that Mohammed never claimed to be divine (god), and Most muslims will not accept this if he does.
Secular Humanism by definition declares man as his own god.
DRU…koran [61.6] And when Isa son of Marium said: O children of Israel! surely I am the apostle of Allah to you, verifying that which is before me of the Taurat and giving the good news of an Apostle who will come after me, his name being Ahmad, but when he came to them with clear arguments they said: This is clear magic.
Muslims believe this koran verse says Jesus said mohammed is the comorter who comes after him. John 14-16….. The comforter is the holy ghost spirit of god… Muslims says koran 61-6 is about this verse in John….The koran verse is saying mohammed is the holy ghost spirit of god…This is the unforgivable sin…
Muslms use John 14-16 to prove Mohammed was the comforter to come after Jesus… Mohammed is really the prince of the world satan that comes after Jesus in verse 30…
Pentecostals believe speaking in tongues is evidence you have received he holy ghost….This is why they are so adamant about tongues….
Pentecostals are one of the very few who baptise crrectly in the NAME of JESUS, not in the titles of father, son and holy ghost…
They knew Jesus spoke in parables to the masses but showed the truth to his own… And this is precisely why Peter said ‘ Repent and be baptised in the NAME OF JESUS CHRIST for the remission of sin…Acts 2-38……
Father, son and holy ghost is not the name…. The name is Jesus..
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: THAT NAME IS JESUS..
Matthew 28-19…
e13 I don’t think I am understanding you… did you just say that the name of the Father is Jesus, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus? Where do you get that from?
Ruth,
Muslims misunderstand the the concept of the comforter. They will never say that Mohammed is God, whether in Spirit or flesh. If they commit the unpardonable sin, then there is no hope for them to be forgiven. Tell that to the Christians who have converted from Islam.
Faith is based on the power of the blood of Jesus. Not in the understanding of man. This goes for Baptism as well. This begs me to ask you, Does baptism forgive sins? Tell that to the thief on the cross. Or then, since Matthew 28:19 was recited at my baptism, does that mean that I do not have the Holy Spirit?
Well, I loudly proclaim that Jesus is Lord! How is it that I can do that if I do not have the Holy Spiri? .(see 1 Corinthians 12:3)
Then How do you explain Acts 8:14- 17. How about Acts 10:44-48, where the Holy Spirit was received by the Gentiles before they were baptized. In the first case, with the samaritans, it was the Laying on of hands that brought the Holy Spirit.
You see, this is the mistake that people who read a verse like Acts 2:38 make. This was a transitional time between the baptism of John, and the baptism into the church. We receive the Holy Spirit when we become believers in Jesus As per acts 10:44-48. For many of these believers who were dispersed throughout Judea, they had only received part of the Gospel message, and many had not heard of the HolySpirit being Given to the disciples. Some had received the Baptism of John but did not know of the forgiveness of sins that came with the death and resurrection, and when they were Baptized into the church they received forgiveness. Others had received the Holy Spirit, But had not been baptized into the church. The samaritans had received the “Word of God”, But peter had to pray over them to receive the Holy Spirit. This was because confirmation was needed that Samaritans were a part of the church.To take this transitional time, and say that this is what happens during Baptism is a mistake.
It is the same with speaking in tongues. During the time of acts, this was a sign of the HolySpirit. It confirmed that that person or group of people were part of the church. To take this to mean that you have to speak in tongues upon conversion now is Ludicrous. We have a better test for this now, as I mentioned in 1 Cor. 12:3 above, and 1 John 4:4-6. Is speaking in tongues still relevent and possible as a confirmation tool? Yes. But the Better way is to test the Spirit. Is Baptism required to receive the Holy Spirit? No. It is to signify belonging to the church. Speaking in tongues does not edify if there is noone to translate it. Paul puts it this way: “nevertheless, in Church I would rather speak five Words with my mind than ten thousand words in a tongue.” (1 Cor. 14:19)
Matt 24-11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
1 John 4-1..Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
When the bible says MANY false prophets it means millions not a dozen…
The muslims who say the koran is god’s words are these false prophets…
The muslims who say Jesus is not Son of God and God is father are of antichrist spirit and are these false prophets
What does it take to make people understand we are at war with satan and his antichrist children….They want to prove satan is the god of Abraham and God’s real childen want to prove he isn’t..
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Dru…
Acts 2-4.. And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance
Mark 16-17..And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
Isaiah 28-11, 12..For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
I have never spoke in tngues… But that does not make the Bible untrue….
When I rceived the holy ghost I received revelations of some of the biblical mysteries….. The revelations continue today 40 years later..
e13 I don’t think I am understanding you… did you just say that the name of the Father is Jesus, and the name of the Holy Ghost is Jesus? Where do you get that from?
Acts 2-38..Acts 2-37…..Now when they heard [this], they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men [and] brethren, what shall we do? Acts 2-38..Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the NAME of Jesus Christ for the
remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
If Peter didn’t know what Jesus meant i n Mark 28-19, who does????
Matthew 13-34..All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them:
Peter knew What Jesus meant…Peter knew The fthers name is Jesus, the son name is Jrses and holy ghost name is Jesus…. Jesus as John said in John 1 was the God of the beginning…. The beginning is Genesis 1-1..
e13, I believe that Jesus IS the God who dealt with Israel in the old testament, but in Luke10:21 for example, it makes no sense for Jesus to be talking to HIMSELF or praising and thanking HIMSELF. Jesus reveals the Father as a distinct personality, with whom he is in perfect unity with, and that is HOW they are one, but they are not actually the same individual.
Jesus may be a split off from the Father, so in that sense he was not created as the angels were, but he is still the son, and that is why he said the Father was greater than he in John 14:28.
If they were the same person then the son could not have distinguished from the father in ANY way, but Jesus thanking the Father DOES distinguish.
160.000 Christians are Martyred in any given year around the World. Most are “sunday worshippers”. Are they Going to Hell? Have they taken the Mark of the beast? Or is God Punishing them for believing that they have found their restingplace.?
Hebrews 4
Dru,
Muslims misunderstand the the concept of the comforter. They will never say that Mohammed is God, whether in Spirit or flesh. If they commit the unpardonable sin, then there is no hope for them to be forgiven
Dru, muslims do not believe the Bible.. If they did they would know the comforter is the holy ghost and holy ghost is God’s spirit…
Not to mentin the fact allah is satan and mohmmed is his antichrist messiah and these poor deceived people think allah is god and mohammed his prophet….
Satan does not care how he accomplishes it, he always counterfeits God and saying mohamed is the holy ghost comforter is satan’s way of saying he is god…
Also the unpardonable sin in Islam is believing god has partners…..i.e. Son of God…This is ISlam’s blasphemy law of unpardonable sin.. punishable by death….. This means all Christians are under the death penalty ….This is the exact same blasphemy law the pharisees used to
have Jesus killed..
Ruth
In my comment above, I said the following:
“Is speaking in tongues still relevent and possible as a confirmation tool? Yes.”
So I think we are in agreement.
When I received the Holy Spirit, i could see Halos of light around certain people in the Church. One Missionary in particular stood out to me from Zaire. These were not the Halos depicted in paintings, but more Like a glow around their whole form. Any way this African Missionary had been imprisoned For his preaching. I Was a child then, 2nd grade. Later on as I Got older Holy Spirit Gave me revelations from the Word of God, which I was unable to communicate till recently, and even now only by way of writing, except to a select few verbally. When I was a young adult, I was held in high regard by my church. I was preparing to enter the ministry, I put myself on a podium, God Knocked me off that podium, He overcame the original sin of Pride in me then. I in turn became prodigal, rebelled. Though his Spirit never left me. I lived for myself the next 20 years.
In His grace though, he sanctified me, disciplined me corrected me, walked with me, and then he commisioned me. For what, I still do not know For certain. I do know that he has called me to give my “testimony” (Martyria) When the time comes. All of my life has been preparing me for this. Luke 21:12-19 is part of that calling.
Till then, I have stopped trying to exalt myself, and am just living for him, whatever opportunity I get. I write to his glory, If he speaks through what I write, it is to his glory. “Not my will but thine will be Done” has been my prayer. As Jesus prayed at the mount of Olives. I am nothing more than an earthen vessel with a light inside, awaiting the time that he has prepared for me to let my light shine. Till then I live by faith knowing he is in control. I Know one thing though. I Know that I love the Lord more than anything in this world including my life. I have been “rich”, I have been “poor”, I have been popular, and unpopular, I have been wise and I have been Stupid, I have been healthy and I have been sick, I have experience Joy and I have had grief. All the wealth, fame, Wisdom, health and Joy This world offers pales in comparison to his Love. For me, Paul’s words ring true: “For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain.” I see myself as nothing more than his servant, Yet he calls me his son?!
Psalm 143:10
Kind of funny this song came on right after I posted this comment. Has me in tears.
Dru… The song sounds like message from God to you…
Dru…I think we are here to help crush the serpents head with real truths… Genesis 3-15…And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Jesus indwelling Christians are the seed of the woman/church…
Revelation 12-17…And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Crushing-brusing the serpents head means to expose him down to the foundation..Hab. 3-13..God does the brushing but htere is a verse that says we help…
Bruising the heel I think has to do with selling one’s birthright for a morsel of bread…as did esau and Eve…
Our feet are clad with the Gospel of Christ…If we believe the koran lie, etc. our feet become unclad and are bruised..and our feet are turned away from God..
Luke 8-11 says the SEED is the word of god Matthew 13 Says both Jesus and satan sow seed that produce children of god or children of satan.. Hense seed of the woman and seed of the serpent…
Male no misake Our POTUS is part of this battle but not on the side of the Christians…
Thanks Ruth,
I will mull over what you said. Revelation 12:11 speaks to me more than verse 17.
Look also at 2 Peter 1:1, and the stong’s def. of “Obtained”, and then Hebrews 5:1-4 and 2 Peter 2,3.
thanks again ruth and
thanks again dru ,
however dru didn’t leave the church through disillusionment.
my wife and I were part of the music ministry and when we challenged the minister and leaders- cause get this this, is why it remained hidden was because the leaders were corrupt too, he chose them like the scripture an evil king gathers evil advisors. one gets a false sense of security that if the minister falls out of line the leaders would pull him up, but they were protecting him because if his embezzlement of money come to light, the leaders risk the loss of their houses, because this evil minister was clever and set them up as directors. and so as directors would be punished more by law with huge fines! anyway we challenged them and stood down from the music! till they cleaned up their act, because all the while we couldn’t live a lie and pretend everything was ok! we was going to stay and hope things were fixed but was forced out after a preaching to the whole church liking us as september 11 terrorists! with the whole church practically turning heads and giving us filthy looks! but i believe maybe god dealt with this man, his wife left him he lost his house and latter was found dead in his car a couple of years latter, apparently he had let his diabetes get out of control and was living in his car! this was a terrible end for him and is a warning to all! latter their church had a period where everyone was having divorces, so many people ending in divorce! anyway the church wasn’t pentecostal it was anglican. it was a earlier church experience when i was younger when going to a pentecostal church that i wanted to be baptised that after coming out the water the minister prompted me by saying “what did you say” in front of 5000 people, to which i honestly replied ” i didn’t say anything!” realised in the next few minutes of others being baptised they would speak in tongues after coming out of the water! i have had many experiences with many churches and most not good, because each time your integrity gets challenged where i was forced to live a lie or support a lie! there is no place for lies in a church, the church should always stand on truth! anyway you none christains out there that read this and see this a the perfect excuse for not going and being a part of a body of believers in christ, have no excuse to use this! because god sees your motives and the deep motives of all man! and believe it or not these things actually cause one to cling closer to god and learn and understand his ways better! and judgement starts with his church first! some ministers preach don’t judge but take the log out of your own eye! and fail to speak the rest of the verse of then you may see clearly to take the speck out of your brothers eye! yes we can judge those in our church and paul writes the ways about going about that- don’t you know we will be the judges of angels!
and are born in this humiliated state to be a witness to the sufferings brought about by sin in this fallen world to teach us in the hope we will completely detest sin and its evil ways and seek and find gods redemption made possible through christ, before the body dies, like the seed before the sprout and the soul becomes transformed into the likeess of the angels! god sees this as good, because if we were born into a glorified state like the angels, we too are endanger of falling to ego and pride and causing yet another rebellion in the heavens! no! suffering and humility is good for the soul!
woe to those who use the kingdom of god as a way to make money
and feed the lies of prosperity teachings, whom see gods forgivness as a free license to sin, baptism is as much as repentance as it is a renewal in christ and a symbol of the flood. and must a company the recieving of the holy spirit, preferrably before and not left to long after! woe to those whom fabricate the hand of god for their own gain or any other reason! whom preaches all sickness is to do with ones own sin that only if one repents will you be healed, and if you are not healed it is a lack of faith! not everyone is healed! and everyone will eventually get sick and die, this teaching adds further burden to the sick whom don’t receive healing! it may , but also may not be to do with ones own sin or lack of faith! don’t you know that the misfortunate in christ in this life will rule over us in heaven! all have sinned and fallen short of glory of god! only god himself is good! but the spirit of christ is for our clothes to hide our nakedness and help us through this life to transform us into christs image!
David,
Satan Longs to be in the churches, and his biggest tool in his arsenal is pride. Religiousity, self righteousness, Nicolaitanism, Gossip, Foolish controversies over insignificant doctrines, Are all the result of pride. Pride is the Log of the pharisees. And satan Loves nothing more than to sit in front of a church and act like God, and be worshipped. I am sorry to hear of your experiences in the church.
hi david
you are welcome here. this is not a church, but a blog fellowship.
sorry to hear of your bad experiences, we have all had them, so we sympathize.
Psalms 74-13…Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.
Psalms 74-14..Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, [and] gavest him [to be] meat to the people inhabiting the WILDERNSS.
Revelation 12-14..And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the WILDERNESS, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
God crushes the dragon of Rev 12 by exposing all the lies of the Islam kingdom of Satan of rev 13..
God’s children in the wilderness are nourished by understanding the real truths that expose all the lies of the Islamic dragon beast kingdom …
This is the seed of the woman of Genesis 3-15..
Rev. 12-1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Clothed with the sun means she shines forth as the sun.. Matthew 13-43.. The moon under her feet shows that Satan is indeed the moon god. But not yet bruised…..Romans 16-20..And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly.
The crushing takes place in rev 12-14..
Unfortunately one third of this woman’s seed are dragged away by the dragon’s tail.. His tail is said to be false prophets in Isaiah 9-15..The ancient and honorable he is the head, aka Allah and the prophet that teaches lies he is the tail…aka Muslims ..
The dragon beast tail, which is the many false prophets of Islam cause the falling away from Christ in Rev 12-4..And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth:
The false prophets of ISlam cause these christians to believe the koran lies thereby making naked their feet which are clothed with Christ’s gospel…not to mention Esaus and Eve selling thir their birthright as chldren of God for a morsel of satan’s stones posing as bread….
Did not Jacob grab Esau by the heel and later cnvinced him to sell his birthright…
And so the dragon beast goes to make war in Revelation 13 with the REMNANT OF THE WOMAN’S SEED.. Rev 12-17….And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the REMNANT OF HER SEED, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Matthew 12-43,44,45 sheds light on these things… It speaks of the last evil generation, many of whom are swept clean and garnished, meaning Satan is gone and they are cleaned up for holy ghost indwelling… But Satan returns with his seven devils, and indwells the man and his last state is worse than that of Adam…Satan and these seven devils are none other than the seven headed dragon of Rev. 13…aka Satan’s kingdom of Islam..
The seed of the woman is indeed Christ indwelling his children
The seed of the serpent is the seven headed dragon indwelling his children, aka Muslims..
The SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD…Jesus plants the gospel of Christ. In hearts and minds…. Satan plants his version of god’s words, the in hearts and minds…….These SEEDS PRODUCE THE CHILDREN OF GOD AND THE CHILDREN OF SATAN… Matthew 13-37-40..
This scenario is akin to the two trees in the Garden of Eden…Adam believing the serpents lies caused Adam to become like Satan in understanding good and evil… Genesis 3-22
Thanks for posting this video dru – very sobering. Everyone should take the time to watch it.
NT,
There are alot of people that are not ready for what is coming soon. That video was made in 2010, they are much farther along.
Obama’s homeland security assessment named Christians, right to life, vets, and those on a the right as American’s biggest secutiry problem…That was 2009… i knew we were being set up…. But contrary to what some believe SATAN DOES NOT WIN… We do and he will be put in hell forever soon..
nicetiming.com
Jesus entire life was example for mankind to follow and be restored as children of God… His baptism was example for us to follow…He needed no baptism.. He was without sin and perfect…. His temptation was example for us to follow when we encounter the last temptation of Rev 3-9.-10….Jesus is God.. God cannt be temptted..
When he prayed it was for us to follow his example… OUR FATHER,….
Even his death was example for many Christians to follow..
In Genesis there was one God who was an invisible spirit….He had no helpers in creation…. John said Jesus was the God of the beginning meaning Genesis 1 which states THE BEGINNING……
The Genesis 1-26 verse where god said LET US MAKE MAN IN OUR IMAGE is not about creation and god and jesus making men….The creation is in Genesis 1-27 and Genesis 2-6….God had no helpers in creation….
Genesis 1-26 is a prophecy that began with Adam being MADE in the image of satan…genesis 3-22 ….and continues to Matthew 13- 35 -40 where Jesus utters sealed mysteries and tells of the two seeds, Christ’s gospel and satan’s koran gospel whereby these books make and/or remake man in the image of god and or the image of satan…
The tares are removeed from the kingdom via the koran lie…
Dru, I recently read a site from seventh day adventist and they had some truth…But their opinions about the Sabboth are dead wrong…
Matthew 12-2 through 20… Mark 3-4…
John 5-16..the pharisees wanted to kill Jesus because he profained the Sabbath..
and Col 2-16…
Isaiah 28-11, 12..For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. To whom he said, This [is] the rest [wherewith] ye may cause the weary to rest; and this [is] the refreshing: yet they would not hear. Read Isaiah 28-9 through 13..THIS IS THE REST…… THIS IS THE REST…
Jesus gave man two laws
…Love God with your everthing and your neighbor as yourself.. These two laws fulfill the 10 commandments…
The mark of the beast has nothing to do with the Sabbath…Not obeying the Sabbath law is not the unforgivable sin…Thinking not obeying the sabbath is the mark of the beast is the same as saying Revelation 13 is
satan’s kingdom of all christian churches that do not esteem saturday as the sabbath..
Believing evil mohammed is holy ghost comforter is the unforgivable sin if they do not turn araound..
Dru… I think you need to do some serious research about seventh day advinists..
Christains do not live by old covenant laws!!!!!!!!!! But love of God, self and neighbor ensures the commands will be obeyed..
I was replying to Nice timing who is a sabbath keeper,I have found my rest in Jesus, He is my resting place. Hebrew 4. No I am not an SDA member.
e13,
In response, here is a video for you about the law, and about Sunday keeping “Christians.” Please watch it.
I suggest you listen to the whole series available on Youtube, but I have only posted the last one.
good information. the narrow gate is more narrow than people think.
nicetiming.com
Is the seventh day adventist god smart enough to know that when it is saturday in america it is sunday in Israel???
And when it is saturday in other parts of the world it is sunday in other places…. Any God that would expect men to worship according to the measurements of time that man has set is not to bright..
The pharisees of Jesus day wanted to kill Jesus because He healed on the Sabbath… Were these men right???? That is precisely what sda are doing..
Sorry if I offend you but everything I have learned about the seventh day advemtist is lies..
It is just another lie to protect the real antichrist kingdom of satan which is Islam..
The sda say the born again christians are the beast of Rev. 13…satan would most definately agree with them since it provides camoflauge for Islam..
Read 2 corinthians 11- 4,14 and see that satan comes as an angel of light teaching another gsopel and another jesus and another spirit..THIS IS ISLAM…That angel was mohammed in flesh…
Beter wake up quick.. The end is upon us all.
e13, regarding your misunderstanding of why they wanted to kill Jesus, here is the correct explanation.
John 8:39 …Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham.
Abraham did WHATEVER God told him to do: Gen 26:5 says BECAUSE that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws…
e13, in other words, these men were NOT keeping the sabbath law PROPERLY, as you seem to think, and Jesus was not opposing the law as you seem to think. Actually, when Jesus healed on the sabbath it was in KEEPING with obedience to the law of the sabbath. But they did not understand that law, and THOUGHT it unlawful to heal on the sabbath, but that was THEIR rules that THEY had added to the law, not God’s actual sabbath law.
So, why did they really seek to kill Jesus?
John 8:37 …ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.
So e13, it seems to me that they wanted to kill Jesus because he exposed how they did NOT keep the law CORRECTLY. It had NOTHING to do with Jesus supposedly abolishing the sabbath, but it had to do with them actually having God’s word (including the sabbath) inside them, or not.
nicetiming.com
John 5-16..And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.
John 5-18..Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.
When the pharisees of John 8 Said, WE BE NOT BORN OF FORNICATION,…It had nothing to do with the birth of Jesus… Jesus was not born of fornication… Mary and Joseph were married before the birth of Jesus…
The pharisees said they were not born of fornication because Jesus said they were seed of Abraham but not sons of braham.. The pharisees took this to mean Hagar was not married to Abraham and these were therefore born of frmication…
These pharisees of John 8 were not of the Israel bloodline…They were the forced converts from Idumea… Josephius Flavius wrote of these..These converts were of Ishmael and Esau…
Th SDA is dead wrong abot the Bible…better wake up….
e13, they THOUGHT he had broken the sabbath because of the way THEY interpreted it, but you yourself agreed that Jesus was the God of the Old Testament, so your view on the law really doesn’t make much sense.
If you agree the Father and Jesus are in perfect unity, how come you think God would be against his OWN law? Why would God act like some Cheshire cat, making a law about the sabbath in the Old Testament, and then irrationally doing away with it in the New, as if he had made a mistake in the Old? He didn’t do AWAY with it, he clarified it and BLESSES those who STILL keep it — Rev. 22:7 & 14.
Jesus is the Father and the God of the beginning… He was never mixed up….The israelites were mixed up and brought the cursed laws of Moses upon themselves… and so do the SDA..
While Moses was on the mount getting the 10 commandments Israel was making the golden calf image of the moon god satan aka allah…… Moses then broke the tables of stone….and Moses wrote his cursed laws which included most of the 10 commandments with curses if they are disobeyed…
Daniel 9-11..Yea, all Israel have transgressed thy law, even by departing, that they might not obey thy voice; therefore the CURSE is poured upon us, and the oath that [is] written in the law of Moses the servant of God, because we have sinned against him. THE WORD CURSE IS SPELLED ALAH IN HEBREW IN THIS VERSE….
Moses laws were a curse that lead to death, not life.
Moses cursed laws were not the 10 commandments of God..But most of these were incorporated into Moses cursed laws..
http://www.letusreason.org/7thAd20.htm
John 7:19: “Did not Moses give you the law, yet none of you keeps the law? Why do you seek to kill Me?” (did not Moses come down from the mount with the 10 C. The law of God.) Vs:23 “If a man receives circumcision on the Sabbath, so that the law of Moses should not be broken, are you angry with Me because I made a man completely well on the Sabbath? The issue is the Sabbath day and his healing on it. Here Jesus relates the law of Moses is related to the Sabbath which is part of the 10 Commandments, they are one unit.
No man is able to keep all of Moses cursed laws… These laws do not lead to life but to death as he Bible says….
Jesus came to fulfill these laws…. Fulfilling these laws is accomplished by Jesus death on the cross….We are forgiven any infraction of the cursed laws of Moses…
If there were no forgiveness of these laws we would all go to hell…
e13, I’ve just proved the law of Moses and the 10 commandments are NOT all one unit in my last comment in the “woman who sits on 7 hills” thread.
Also the law was not a curse providing you kept the law. You need to understand it was actually the RESULTS of breaking the law that was the real curse. But as it says in almost the last words in the Bible (Rev. 22:14) we are blessed for KEEPING the commandments.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of LIFE… THESE LAWS ACTUALLY LEAD TO LIFE, NOT DEATH which you said they lead to.
Believe what you want. I’m done with this thread.
nettiming.com…
Also the law was not a curse providing you kept the law. You need to understand it was actually the RESULTS of breaking the law that was the real curse.
Do you understand what this means? Read Gal 3-10 through 13..
Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed [is] every one that hangeth on a tree:
No one is able to keep all the laws therefroe they are all under the curse..if they life by these old cvenant laws.
i think it needs to be clarified what law you are talking about! whether you are talking about the ten commandments or the laws of the priests and tabernacle or laws of the land all established by moses! even a part of our law today is part derivative of israels laws. i am no expert on law but my wife has been exposed to it as a legal secretary, i think it is called ecclesiastical law. anyway the 10 commandments are for christians to obey! but they do this as jesus clarified by the thirst two! but as christians we are not to follow the ceremonial laws like circumcision, sacrificing animals ect. they were set out as a physical image of a spiritual reality and were to be made perfect in christ! he is the perfect sacrifice for all time ect.
the image of the temple and its cleansing rituals all points to gods new temple us the bodies of man. and jesus is the high priest that cleanses us with the holy anointing oil of today which is the holy spirit. and some things written by moses is not applicable today, like moses commanded if mould was found in a house, the house and all its possessions must be destroyed by fire -from memory! this was a radical action and required dramatic action. whereas today we would treat our houses, so also not a threat to the neighbourhood of becoming an epidemic outbreak! the reason the jews had such extreme cleansing was because they where dealing with the blood and carcasses of animals. i worked at the abattoirs and are quite aware of the dangers, you had to have injections every month to protect against a number of illnesses! the anointing oil did this for the tabernacle priests! even right down to the dye that was used in their clothes! here is a secret the new testament anointing oil is not olive oil but the old testament anointing oil of cinnamon, cassia, olive oil(pure) it should burn cleanly when lit, not like the stuff we are ripped off in supermarkets with and last of all cannabis! that’s right, not calamus that was a in correct translation in the king james which put instead calamus- which is carcinogenic and actually metabolises in the liver to become mescaline , not ecstasy as some believe! however the cannabis and all other ingredients were crushed by rollers in bays, and the whole cannabis plant was used not just the flowers! whereas to get high from cannabis one has to heat it to at least about 105 degrees (from memory). turning thc into thc acid. however though as time goes on the thc will turn to thc acid and sunlight will speed this process! the two witnesses will bring the anointing oil back, and will wear cloths made from hemp in protest of the big lie, hidden by pharmaceutical, fuel and many other companies, with governments on side all taking a big piece of the pie! today their wouldn’t be a green house effect if hemp was used as a fuel, because to carbon produced would of been drawn out of the air in the first place! so we would have the same footprint as the 1920’s adding also the less trees used deforested because hemp would replace these! i urge all christains to put aside all prejudices to do with cannabis because it is for healing! and its prejudice was a clever plan put forth by the usa government in the first place! and the whole world followed suit in its prohibition! your prejudice is from man not god! and no i don’t think its the tree of life like some cannabis christians think, its actually the tree of knowledge of good and evil, here is another secret before adam and eve ate from this tree they were blind! but that’s not a bad thing because only those whom see are guilty of evil because they are held countable! where as adam and eve once partaking of this tree received spiritual death! don’t bother throwing scriptures at me like this is sorcery! the use of magic herbs and witchcraft! cannabis came from the middle east and even was used in egypt in moses time! what and the bible outlaws healing with this even though they don’t name it, when its been around them for thousands of years! this is partly gets the two witnesses in trouble, like jesus healed illegally on a sabbath, these two will heal with an oil that has an illegal substance! so many christians, governments, and big business will want them killed! in fact government and big business is basically the same body! it is money that rules over us! whomever has the most has the power! and governments have always been in bed with big business!
these two witnesses are described as two olive trees standing each side of the lamp-stand which represents the seven churches, interestingly they each have a olive branch that drips oil into a bowl on top of the lamp stand and from this bowl seven feeder tubes go out to the seven lamps to feed them oil! this isn’t just the two witnesses giving the holy spirit here as a christian would straight away presume. what the israelites failed miserably at was seeing the spiritual representative of the physical representative! what a lot of christians fail to do is see the physical representative of the spiritual! the two are sometimes important and tied together- what you bind here on earth will be bound in heaven. and sometimes while eating pigs won’t kill you spiritually but will probably give you a heart attack latter and kill you physically! and so god provides both for the body and the soul! he cares for both, but spiritual death is the more serious! and those whom destroy the earth will be held accountable in revelation! those whom have ears hear what the spirit is saying!
also note that if one is to make the anointing oil they must not anoint themselves with it or anyone else, also never anoint non christians- please observe
Exodus 30, there’s always a good reason why god says something- this is important to remember!
look up double blind peer reviewed pub-med trials on cannabis!
look at company dupont’s history for some appalling terrible things done to the earth!
recognise the bad drug companies, they do off shore testing in poor countries to dodge strict governing safety protocols, and less costs when sued!
learn the difference in thc (Tetrahydrocannabinol) and cbd (carboxylic acid) compounds
i hereby state as a christian follower of jesus christ i am against the use of drugs for personal recreational purposes i am presenting this for the purpose of uncovering lies fed to us from the powers of this earth and the devils kingdom!
ps. forget to mention myrrh as as one of the ingredients of the anionting oil
again about saying the above, this may or may not be from the lord. i could be just raving the imaginations of my mind. interestingly jobs three friends convincingly spoke in the name of the lord! and it wasn’t the lord at all! when god finally did speak the earth shook! this has not happened to me, so don’t take what i say as true fact. only time will tell what is right!
Islam’s design to take over jerusalem…..And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain: yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him. Dan. 11:45
I think God knew when writing a paragraph the first sentence should pertain or expalin the subject matter…
Rev. 13-1… JOHN STANDS ON THE SAND OF THE SEA (shore) and sees a beast rise up…
I also think God identified Ishmael’s descendants as the SAND OF THE SEA SHORE so we could know who the beast of Rev 13 is.. It is Islam and the devils like Morsi, etc..
Isaac’s descendants are dubbed as the STARS OF HEAVEN including those adopted into the Abrahamic family i.e. Christians..
Aren’t Morsi and obama bed fellows???? Did Morsi mean the usa when he spoke of the united states of Islam/Arabia???
what worries me, and is part the reason that i think the anti-christ is not muslim. is the fact that even the elite will be fooled (if possible). where as for christians, muslim is easily decerned as not from god! this has caused me to consider things like maybe its the pentecostal movement and that the beast when fighting, micheal in heaven has seven heads and seven crowns, but when cast down to earth gains three more crowns, represented maybe as a falsified father, son and holy spirit. and satan pretends to be holy spirit(god) to recieve worship from this group! the three crowns representing falseness because they aint really there because the beast only has seven heads so can’t fit these three extra crowns. and causes fire to come from heaven in full veiw of man – a falsified tongues gift! the mark of the beast being the laying of hands to sell salvation and the spiritual gifts and those whom recieve them by being decieved that by only giving money will god bless them with salvation and the gifts! simon the sorcerer realised a spirit can be given in the laying of hands and can be used to make money! so we must test everyone whom lays hands on us to be sure it is the christ spirit they are giving! because they will be sharing what ever spirit they have! even elisha realised this when he asked elijah to give double portion of the spirit of elijah! the pentecostol movement is like the tower of babel, where mankind tries to build there own way to heaven! isaiah warns that they think they have a covernent with death and will escape the overflowing scourge shall pass through! in fact isaiah warns that these stagger with wine but latter also states that this is not real wine but the effect of -isaiah 28.7 -Isaiah 29:9. it also goes on to say he will speak to these ones in an unknown language! this spirit is a proud filled spirit, to which have thought of themselves bigger than they ought to -isaiah 28:20 and will often accuse over churches of having milky teaching, whereas it is in fact them that are of isaiah 28:9 To children weaned from their milk, to those just taken from the breast. in my convictions i took my wife to a pentecostal church to get her to witness their fruit. it was quite scarry and my wife was terrified. they sang hallelujah in one song for at least forty minutes! and people were twitching and jerking, writhing on the floor, yelling out and speaking a strange tongue! there preaching was on a verse of revelation where the multitude sang hallelujah and actually skipped verses in between to bring home what they wanted to say! the main part of their teaching was about giving back to god in the form of money and they actually had two collections during that service! and after hearing some visiting evangelist talk about needing more money and that their was a evil spirit of poverty that has bad breath, to whom he didn’t talk about his successes in his previous paid missions and what he was going to do on his paid holiday to the next country! these people where hypnotised by this idol of a man! we left when the service started to sing hallelujah again and stated that the spirit was really going to come upon us! -this my friends is the end time abomination that causes desolation if i have ever seen it! my first experience with pentecostals was when i decided to be baptised at one of their churches in front of about five thousand people and when i came out of the water the minister prompted me by saying “what did you say” i responded “i didn’t say anything” and after realised he wanted me to speak in tongues because all the others after me did just that! i have witnessed a girlfriend of mine, after she repented and asked for the holy spirit to be challenged that night by two pentecostals on the street, when she said “i am a christian” they responded “really did you speak in tongues”, “no” she replied. “oh, they said then you are not saved”. these people have infiltrated all the churches of god! you will see them infiltrate the healing ministeries with their false healings! you will see the women prophetesses gather the women of men acting as mediator for god with their false visions. captivating our woman! they proudly and rudely speak their tongue gifts during prayer right over another whom is praying. totally showing no regard for the one praying! these people slain your spirit! god says in isaiah 28:13 Then the word of the LORD came to them:” Law after law, law after law, line after line, line after line, a little here, a little there,” so they go stumbling backward, to be broken, trapped, and “captured”.
i believe yes muslim is a fret and our enemy, god uses our enemies to bring about his wrath! and first he will destroy los angelos with fire, that city of harlots, where the prostitute in the basket was placed! and punish america the beast- mouth of a lion(english speaking) body of a leopard (african slaves- whom was america’s work horse, whom was forced to hard labor, just for the wages of food, even denied decent bedding) the feet of a bear- the crushed indian race, down trodden, were of the land before invaded! whom even had the land that was promised to them, taken from them! and many slaughtered into near oblivion! so america, god used you to bring his wrath on the african and indian peoples for their witchcraft and worshiping other gods! but now its your turn to give an account for these very crimes, and your idolatry, sexual perversion, your denial of the poor of justice, your removal of the plant of renown, provided by god to heal the nations, feed the poor, fuel our energy needs without destroying the earth, and be part of the misinterpreted kana bosm recipe of the ancient anointing oil for the christian people! instead you sided with money and big bussiness, even promoting alternative cures to which you control and bringing upon the sick torture, poverty and death, and suffering upon the poor to whom my spirit reaches! look your denial of truth and your greed is fuelling the very nations riches that are being risen to destroy you! beware israel, because figurative egypt will be destroyed so you can no longer again trust in a rich nation to rescue you! because its enemies have you next in her sites! revelation is here now!
david
Interesting thoughts. I never heard that definition of the beast before. What plant are you talking about?
hi marianne,
what i speak of is Ezekiel 34:29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more.
of the bibles today i urge one to always stick to king james or parrallel bible with king james included, because modern versions have translated into modern english even words of prophesy in the bible, losing meanings of words because those propheses don’t reveal there true meaning until their appointed time! the plant is to do with the miss interpreted callamus the recipe of the holy anointing oil of exodus 30:23 of the king james bible which all latter bibles follow besides the old greek septuagint. the verse goes like this Exodus 30:23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of “sweet calamus” two hundred and fifty shekels. its translated from the jewish language of the word q’nëh-vosem!
good link – http://qbible.com/hebrew-old-testament/exodus/30.html#32
otherwise the word kaneh-bosm. this is the holy anointing oil for anointing the temple priests, prophets and kings! it was also used to clean all of the temple and all its instruments! this special oil was made to protect preists from pathogens and diseases associated with the blood and carcasses of animals! it is specifically made because it is a special compound handed down by god, hence the specific measures! that every it touches is considered holy and is sanctified! and strictly must be treated as such! those whom make it can’t be anointed with it, another must make it for them! and under no circumstance do you anoint non-christians with it! this is the anointing oil of james 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him. – not olive oil like the churches believe! we must seek god directly and have him teach us, or those he has approved in the word of god! not some teaching we have no ideal where it came from in the history of the church since christ! no where in the new testament those it say to anoint in olive oil, that changes the practise of using the anointing oil that i believe the jesus and his disciples used in Mark 6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them. now at this point many will argue that oil represents the holy spirit so we don’t need an anointing oil, and that’s old testament ritual! yes part true, what i say is this- it is necessary that we determine what practices of the old testament still stand. example baptism was practised before christ by the jewish priests, and john the baptist came baptising and these are a baptism of repentance! and is a representative of the flood that destroyed evil upon the face of the earth through water! yet it is still important to practise this, even jesus observed this practise! so is anointing with oil because jesus and the disciples did this! the old testament was a physical representation of the spiritual! and what jews failed to do was recognise is spiritual component! a lot of christains today fail to understand the physical component! sometimes the two are necessary so what we bind here may be bound in heaven! and these two are witnesses to one another and are linked! anyway i will cut to the chase, because i have too much to say and will loose your attention with too many words! now the mystery kaneh-bosm is actually cannabis not callamus! now at this point you may scream heresy, but i urge you to see this mystery hidden truth! it has been the devils work to give this plant a bad stigma throughout the world, even destroy its existence! the two witnesses need this plant to bring back the anointing oil to christanity! so like the devil used evil kings to try to kill the newborn of the appointed, so too he is trying to destroy the anointing oil that the two witnesses will use! callamus is toxic and has carcinogenic Beta-asarone! so much so that only the root was decided to be used! not only this but it only grows in marshes not deserts where the israelites and moses journeyed! cannabis has been in the middle east for thousands of years and originally came from asia! it still grows in the wild of israel. it can be traced through the study of languages, even the countries surrounding israel have familiar words for this plant! look at pub med peer reviewed double blind scientific studies to find the truth! not what governments say! i have been seeking the truth for a few years now! and was once like others whom preached against cannabis only cause others have influenced me to do so not understanding the truth! although i haven’t been anointed with the anointing oil, because i am finding it difficult to get the quantity. i can vouch for cannabis’s amazing medicinal qualities that has helped my injures, because of being run down by a car ten years ago! the leaf is good because of its cbd chemical which is good for my muclespasms and inflammation, apparently cannabis helps those with ms, epilepsy, tourettes syndrome, glaucoma, asthma, ease nicotine addiction, arthritis and other autoimmune diseases, studies show it even destroys cancer cells! it has about the addictiveness of caffine! ask yourself how many people you know when they get married and have kids give up just like that! i did it before i became a christian at 23 years of age! i did not climb the walls, have fits, months of sweating like i did with the pain killers i got addicted to after being hit by a car. and has ruined my stomach so it can’t tolerate medication no more! not only that but cause tooth decay! we are being kept in the dark and lied to! the two witnesses will bring back the anointing -the bible calls them the sons of oil! and the imagery
set in zechariah 4:11 describes them as two olive trees whom have branches provide oil to a bowl which sit on top of the lamp stand which has feeder tubes that supply oil to the seven churches! Revelation 11:1-14 they will wear sackcloth -made from hemp!!! not goats hair as scholars believe! they will do this in morning but also protest! most Christian churches will reject them and persecute them along side governments, law and the general population! the beast will destroy them eventually! if cannabis had been used as a fuel we wouldn’t have a green house effect! it makes 150 litres of ethanol per acre, not including the bio-diesel that can be made from the seed! and if used as a food we wouldn’t have starving people, its rich in omega 3 6 9, better than fish and a better protein than meat! we could survive just off it alone. it has 25000 different uses! governments have always been in bed with big business, and doctors with big pharma! many deaths are happening all in vain world wide, and many sick are denied relief from their sufferings! this should concern all christians- everywhere! a lot of truth is hidden that’s why we must seek it! money is the root of all evil. an evil king gathers evil advisors, and where there is a dead body there the vultures will gather!
sorry this is so long- believe it or not i have toned back quite a bit!
Revelation 11-4..These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. ..THESE TWO WITNESSES ARE THE TWO CHURCHES WHO ARE ANOINTED….The Islamic beast has been killing them for centuries..
Revelation 1-20…the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Two of thse candlesticks are the two churches of Rev. 11…These are aointed with holy ghost and more than likely baptise in the name of JESUS,, not the titles of father, son and holy ghost..
Zech 4-14..Then said he, These [are] the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth. ..I repeat, the two anointed candlesticks are two of the seven churches of Rev 1-20..
hi e1313ruth. the problem with the two witnesses being two of the seven churches is the two witnesses of zechariah have feeder tubes going from them providing oil two the seven churches. Revelation 11:4 These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth. – they are actually two lamp stands, not lamps. and Revelation 11:10 ….because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. so unless this is a mis-interpretation of original text, it says two prophets, not groups of prophets.
p.s i said “the” jesus, that was a typo, it should of been that jesus!
Dear, david p
Don’t agree with all your LEFTY, hate whitey, view of US HISTORY, It’s all B.S. Know you have been dumbed down by the US DEPT of SPECIAL ED, so no need for hard feelings. You SIR are right on about Cannabis sativa being a healing HERB! I Do Believe ANNOITING OIL is made of HEMP SEED. C sativa is a GOD GIVEN gift to MANKIND, in the form of a GREEN HERB……..it is not a DRUG, it is an AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT with MEDICINAL properties. Not physically addictive like MAN MADE pain killers. Just remember David p, the same folk’s (US GOV) that classify C sativa as a SHEDULE 1 DRUG, are the ones filling you head with all the WHITE GUILT BS! GOD BLESS, and have a great day.
thanks wyatt for your comments, and i am glad to see people disagree with me, so if i am am in error, my critics may help me see my error! they are my best friend! like to state that i don’t have a hate whitey view of us history, i am white myself! i am just aware that god uses his peoples enemies to bring upon them his wrath! but then latter goes and punishes those nations he used to bring about his wrath! so the africans had witchcraft and idols, the same with native indians and god went and defeated and punished them using the “whiteys”. then he goes after the whiteys for their violence and evils! he uses one clay pot used for ignoble purposes to smash another till they all have been broken!
I do not think we will see the full power of the fourth beast until the Restrainer is removed.
To me, we see the foundation of the fourth beast now. The UN, world bank, and the WTO. Control of countries through debt.
http://www.chick.com/information/religions/catholicism/sevenhills.asp
someone reading my website
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
http://www.rapturewatch.net/apps/videos/videos/show/17820431-unveiling-the-man-of-sin-dr-joe-vankoevering-full
DAVEP…
Genesis 3-22…And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:
God exiled man because he had become like Satan…He did not want man to have access to the tree of life whereby he would live forever…in the likeness of Satan/serpent…
The Adams eyes being opened meant their eyes were opened to other gods…Eve said the tree was PLEASANT..to the eyes..
Ecclesiastes 11-7 Truly the light [is] sweet, and a PLEASANT [thing it is] for the eyes to behold the sun: ..Sun is spelled shemesh in Hebrew translation…Shemesh is the ancient sun god…..This shows why the tree was pleasant to the eyes.
.The serpent promised Eve light (knowledge/truth)..She thought she was seeing the light of god, aka the sun… But she was seeing Satan posing as the light of god…aka the sun god.. When the Adams partook they became naked of God’s indwelling spirit and in fact became like the serpent/Satan..
The Adam’s died in the day they ate there of…A day is with the Lord as 1000 years and they died before he 1000 years was up…
God had forewarned the Adams about the tree of death as he has also warned us about the spirit of antichrist that denies Jesus is Son of God.. It is Islam… Some listen AND expose it and others become Muslims…
thanks for the comment, i personally believe eves’ attraction to the tree of knowledge, was because they would become like god! it was temptation to become a god themselves! satan himself fell to this, so wanted to drag gods creatures into doing the same sin!
i did not understand the sun reference, i know the egyptians had sun worship. are you commenting on books such as the life of adam and eve, or another pseudepigraphical book. i don’t except that book as scripture. but however i do except the book of enoch, the translated ethiopian version because the book of jude speaks of enoch with such detail as not found in the bible. good point on the 1000 years being a day, i forgot to consider this on the “day that you eat you will die”.
actually i correct my previous post one day does not equal 1000 years, it equals one year “sometimes” in bible prophesy, so i still stand on my original comment on that adam and eve didn’t die physically on the day they ate, it must be referring to spiritual death. i do think though that time runs at all sorts of different speeds for god depending on his omnipresent focal concentration. if it is on the nano its time runs fast if it is on the macro it runs slow and can vary. but that is more my own impression. not one taken from scripture, but from nature.
sorry again, i correct myself, you were right one day can equal one thousand years to the lord according to 2 Peter 3:8. i apologize e1313ruth, i was relying on my memory of scriptures, only to find when i eventually did double check i was wrong!
actually revelation seems to point to what i am saying when christ rains on this physical earth for one thousand years! so maybe I am wright!
rev 20:6-
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
The fourth Beast is not a muslim.
Have fun with that too.
It is part muslim.
It is a composite beast…….
Are you talking about a beast kingdom or a beast individual?
If an individual, the Beast person is not a muslim.
The Beast kingdom is the NWO…New World Order Kingdom that takes over the whole world.
It’s the last world kingdom unlike any other before it. So yeah, you could say its a type of composite.
The unforgivable sin is believing the holy ghost is satan….Mohammed said he was the holy ghost comforter in the koran… that is the unforgivable sin…Mohammed was satan as an angel of light -means messiah like jesus….2 Corinthians 11-4,14..says this angel of light comes with another gospel that teaches another Jesus and another spirit of God…these are koran and Issa and Allah… This proves mohmmed was the antichrist…unless you think antichrist will be forgiven..He also built his position on the lie that Jesus is not son of god ..That too proves He was the antichrist…The bad news Both mohammed and the Bible says he returns for seven years..
As for Babyln..she is the congregation of satan since Genesis…She was the congregation at tower of babel and she is the congregation of the beast… She is the counterfeit of new Jerusalem…. During end times she does cause some of the Christians to fall and join her congregation, hence Rev 18-23…And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Babylon is responsibl for ALL DEATHS… That pretty much says she was the result of original sin…Hence rev 18-24..And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
The beast scenariois the kingdom of Islam and babylon is his congregation /wife..
christians persecuted in over 130 countries
http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2014/01/study-reveals-christians-are-persecuted-in-over-130-countries-video-2489362.html
Did not Lucifer say he would be like God????
Islam is a counterfeit of God’s kingdom… Mohammed is a counterfeit of messiah Jesus, Koran is a counterfeit of the Gospel of Christ..Babylon is the congregation of the Islamic beast and is a counterfeit of new Jerusalem …
I think the seven heads and the dragon are Satan and his seven demons who indwell the last wicked generation ..Matthew 16-43,44,45…This gang of seven is counterfeit of God’s spirit…The eighth king is a return of the seventh king and this is counterfeit of the return of Jesus..He is the 12 imam…
Babylon sits on seven hills…Bear in mind the dragon and his seven heads are Satan and seven demons….These are the original Baal and his gang …Baal and his gang inhabit the high places or mountains… This simply means they are claiming they are the heavenly gang..and are worshipped as such…..
2 Kings 2-35..And he put down the idolatrous priests, whom the kings of Judah had ordained to burn incense in the high places in the cities of Judah, and in the places round about Jerusalem; them also that burned incense unto Baal, to the sun, and to the moon, and to the planets, and to all the host of heaven….Baal, the sun, moon, and five planets are the eight spirits…This is also the originators of the astrology lore in the Garden of Eden..
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Satan has always counterfeited God…
The dragon beast is identified as being that old serpent in Genesis ..12-9..
One more thing..
Rev 18-23…And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
These things are true because these are the fallen Christians(tares) who have joined the Babylon congregation of the beast..
Rev. 18-24..And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
This verse tells us that this same scenario was original sin and caused the death of Abel. And all men….see 2 Corinth. 11-3,4,14 also ..
History and the Bible both confirm that the entire world worshipped the astrology lore except Jews and Christians and even some of them did too..As for Islam…Mohammed picked Allah out of the 360 astrology gods of Arabia and declared him the God of Abraham……We are right back where it started in Eden…Satan loses this time…
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Finally we have the best candidate for Anti-Christ. The ISIS/ISIL, and they come from sunni muslim. This person, or should I say self porclaimed Khalifah clearly Anti-Christ by forcing the Christian either convert, pay jizya(some form of protection money), or be killed by sword. I can see later on that they have the ambition to form the Islamic States. If succeed, the will become a force to reckon with.
oh Marianne, you did it again with another wonderful blog topic…
According to the Saint Malichi Pope Prophecy (which has been 100% accurate since 1590) states the 112th Pope since the prophecy (Pope Francis is the 112th) will be the false prophet (FP)…in study Bibles it tells us the anti-Christ (AC) will be if Assyrian religion (which comprises what is now Iraq, Syria, Jordan and Lebanon) which is Muslim.
Now when you study Rev 6:3-8 and Zechariah 6:3-8 both talk about colored horses…white, (the AC rides this one…so does the Mahdi), the black horse, the red horse, and the (Zechariah says dappled, Rev. in original Greek says chloros or green and not pale like the King James and mose English version say) last one is green which is Islam.
Also, if you put the four colors together, you come up with the colors of a number of Islamic flags…coincidence? I am not sure…I know my God, the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob is a God of wonder…He does things that blow our minds
There is no way that a Pope could be the AC, because the Bible tells us that there will be 1 AC, and if it were the pope, there would have been a few hundred of them…are they men of God, well if you do research on Roman Catholicism, you will find out they were (no offense intended, just stating facts) liars, conifers, they hated Jews..Christians, and anyone that did not believe they same way they did…and they actually worked on creating a master ally to ward of and destroy Jews and non-Catholic Christians…they drew up the plans of starting ISLAM…this info has been given to me by two ex Jesuit fathers that worked in the Vatican archives, and were assassinated, as well as a Sunni Imam in Dearborn and two other devout Muslims in Dearborn…(more evidence to these two false religions being connected is all the similarities between them)…also, 2 Thessalonians 2:3 tells us he will be the son of perdition…the pope is not the son of perdition right now, however, he is trying to merge Islam with Catholicism so they can be allies and help all other faiths to merge with them…
So, what does the Islamically prophesied Mahdi (will just shorten this to 12th even though the Sunni don’t go with that, sorry) and the Biblically prophesied AC have in common you might ask…in case you haven’t noticed it before, they are pretty much 100% the same.
The 12th rides on a white horse, the AC does as well, the 12th is, in essence the savior of the Muslims, sent by allah, and the AC is the savior, meant at first to be sent from God, but they both take on the persona that they are God, leading to blasphemies against the God of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, they both will be dictators against all that will not become submissive to them, they both will have a one world religion, they both will have a one world government, they both will sit in the Jewish temple that will be built soon, (they are ready to build it now just looking for the historical place where it was, and they are finding it wasn’t where the Dome of the Rock is, but right next to where that stands.
The Mahdi and the anti-Christ are the same one…
forgot to add…both will have a global law in effect…what laws are being pushed now…Shari’a…Shari’a is creeping in all countries now…
I agree. and that pale green horse is riding now
Hello,
All I can say about all of this arguments regarding the beast is to SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES. God gave clues who is this beast, what is the mark of the beast, what are the characteristics of this beast..what is the zeal of the Living God, what is the sign between God and his people, what is the foundation of all generations..it’s all in the scripture..so God tells us according to John 5:39, “Search the scriptures, for in them ye think ye have eternal life, and they are they WHICH TESTIFY OF ME”….
Anyone notice that Isis is building a territory between Syria and Iraq that emulates the original Assyrian kingdom….
cilla
no I had not noticed. I was more focused on their evil behavior. I guess we will see how far this gets.
http://m.therightscoop.com/turkey-akp-ruling-party-official-just-outed-the-antichrist-in-a-tweet/
SHOCKING: Muslims are now declaring Erdogan (from Turkey) as GOD
Read more: http://therightscoop.com/shocking-muslims-are-now-declaring-erdogan-as-god/#ixzz3Vxz3VEjh
Salam, my name is Qasim, from last 26+ years Allah and Muhammad s.a.w keep coming into my dreams, over 460+ times Allah comes in my dreams and 250+ times Mohammad s.a.w comes in my dreams, Muhammad S.A.W is the last Messenger of Allah and i am the Ummati of Prophet Muhammad S.A.W, many dreams related to Muslim Ummah, World and the Judgment Day, I have shared few dreams on my fb
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Allah-and-Muhammad-SAW-in-my-Dreams/324568321070386
Who was Muhammad’s Uncle named after?
quiz time..
Yes and it caming from mecca the worship the stone caming from sky represent Satan. From the Islam the antichtist will rise from Turkey.
It has been very interesting this discussion going on for 7 years. I can’t believe people are still looking at the catholic church as the anti christ. But, has anyone considered that the Beast might not be an individual? Also, this whole tribulation period could have already happened. Please give this website a lookover and see if it makes more sense to you. But, becareful, you may have to rethink your hatred of any specific Christian religion. http://www.ellisskolfield.com./index.php/skolfield-bible-prophecy-study
paul
I do not think the beast is just an individual.
book of daniel explains it is a kingdom….
daniel also mentions a fierce leader of end times, which MAY be connected to this kingdom.
4th beast is a combination of kingdoms that previously troubled Israel, so history shows us who this is…..
your link is long, I have glanced at it so far, and it seems to be on the same line of thought as me… ie Islam
did you see this link?
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
not sure about hitler… I think he is a foreshadowing….. we have someone now trying to be as bad as him….
I’d like to share a link to a website:
http://www.christ2k.com
REVELATION 13 by each verse
1. Beast appeared (look daniel 7 4th beast), this is symbol of islam/allah as whole
2. resembled of lion, bear and leopard only islam ever conquer 3 beast territory and it is HISTORICAL FACT you will never seen rome map reach persian.
3. one head wounded but heal, it is the first fitna when muawiyah fight against ali which cost many jihadist troops but finally muawiyah wins and his umayah caliphate conquer from spain to persia
4. who can fight the beast? islam is so powerfull under rashidun and umayah and most of her conquest last until now (while rome suffer many defeats, split even lost its territory) men worship islam as religion not rome
5. 42 month represent power of new system calliphate that replce blood related from 660 (muawiyah gain most IC territory) until 1920 (end of WW1, first meeting of league of nation held in january, fall of ottoman empire)
6. islam insult god and his dwelling place, islam called jesus as man, replace true israel god with pagan deity and build mosque in jerusalem salomn temple
7. islam fight against jew and christian even defeating christian byzantium empire and also islam/allah spread throughout the world.
8 there are 1.5 B muslim now from all over the world
9/10. islam spread her teaching with sword (war)
11. islam claimed to believe prophet isa/jesus believe in all prophet and their book of torah and sabur/psalm (look like a lamb) but insult him by reject jesus divinity, claim all prophet were muslim and claimed bible is a fake (speak like dragon). the beast is early jihadist(when they are still in small number then gaining more follower), two horns represent rashidun and umayah caliphate
12. rashidun and umayah are moslim and they forced people to follow islam
13-15. muslim always claim mohamed split the moon and it is known they respect /using demonic jinn (genie) even dark magic and claimed thats all from allah almighty. they will kill those who insult islam. in war islam bring cannon which unknown to christian that weapon can cause explosion (fire from heaven)
16-18 under rashidun and umayah caliphate islam expand its territory with war/sword they commit forced religious convertion with death penalty or paying high taxes (jizyah) so non converter will become very poor (unable to buy/sell – rev 13:16).
666 beast – triscore
1. it is a mark, those who embrace islam will receive mark in head (belief the idea of pagan deity) and work in way of islam (hand mark).
2.it is a number , the mark of the beast 666 which greece numerical known as tri score and the number is allah
3 it is a name, a converter/mualaf must said syahadat word which mention name of beast/allah (rev 13:17) .
4. it is man, name allah is a name for male deity for female is al lat just like christiano for male and christiana for female
4 beast daniel 7
1. lion – babylon
2. bear – persia
3. leopard – greece
4. islam caliphate
– 10 horns
1. muhamad
2 Abu bakr
3 umar
4 utman
5 ali
6 hasan
7 husein
8 khalid ibn al walid
9 Abu ubaidah
10 jafar bin abi talib
>> 10 horns purpose to give power and authority to the beast (rev 17:13) they will rule for one hour that’s 41 years ( a day equal 1000 years) started 620 (islam perfected when mohamed ascend to heaven-isra mijrad and receive allah order to pray 5 times/day) until 661 when ali,hasan,husein subdue to muawiyah
small horn : muawiyah
after mohamed died he replaced by 4 caliphs, abu bakr, umar both father in law, utman, ali both son in law of mohamed so all blood related to mohamed. problem arise when utman replaced by ali, muawiyah who’s blood related to utman but not to ali protest said no need blood related to mohamed to rule islam anyone can as long as justified and starting rebellion. in 660 AD muawiyah gain control most of islamic caliphate territory and jan 661 ali died months later ali sons hasan (5th caliph) and husain(2nd imam of shiah) surrender to muawiyah. 680 husein killed by umayah troops in karbala (asyura ) this marked conflict sunni vs shiah. new caliphate sytem (non blood/sunni) last for 1260 years from 660 (muawiyah gain control of IC) until 1920 (first meeting of league of nation, fall of ottoman)
7 heads are kings/kingdom, 5 fallen, one is, the other not come (rev 17:10)
1 egypt
2 asiria
3 babylon
4 persia
5 greece
6 rome
7 islamic caliphate – blood related leadership
8 islamic caliphate – non blood related
– the woman represent rome/vatican (now is european community)
– 7 heads are 7 mountains/hills (greek oros/ore can be translated as mountain or hill) represent istanbul -city of seven hills ( turkey) which member of EU where woman sit on the beast – because part of the beast are member of her
– the beast/islam hate the babylon woman (vatican/EU) and will attack her with fire.
donal
you have a good understanding of islamic history
To answer the “trivia” above: Mohammed’s uncle was named after the pre-islamic deity called allah, it’s female form is allat. This is found infrequently among the theophorous names in inscription from North Africa (Authur Jeffrey, ed., Isalm: Muhammad and his religion [1958] p. 85).
interesting, did not know that
Found an interesting scroll from the dead sea scrolls. The manuscript was found among the scrolls found in Qumran Cave 1.
It is called the War of the Sons of Light Against the Sons of Darkness. You can find it at http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/guerradioses/guerradioses02a.htm.
The first section appears to be an overview of the war. The remaining appears to be the process in which the war is fought.
It is an apocalyptic prophecy of war between levi, judah, benjamin and the exiled of the desert against edom, moab, the sons of ammon, the amalekites and the philistia along with their allies the kittim of asshur (referred to as the army of belial).
If one references the geographical locations of the nations mentioned above, they are the nations surrounding Israel today.
I am interested in your take on this scroll.
cilla
i just glanced at it right now . it is long, so it will take me awhile to read and absorb it.
Great, I look forward to you take on the matter.
You put a lot of thought into your post. Good job.
i agree
I see 10 comments, including replies from me. is that what you want deleted?
how can the antichrist true identity be confirmed when Jesus defeats him? he has to be revealed at least by the midpoint of the tribulation …..
fred
jesus will defeat him at the end. so there will be plenty of time to identify him, by his behavior.
Are you still writing future positions.