The Number 666 according to Muslims

According to the Bible, 666 is an evil number, and represents the beast, or the anti-Christ. But to Muslims, this is a holy number.Which interpretation do you choose?

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Rev 13:18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

The beast and the fierce ruler:

I have seen people get excited over this, and do numerology studies on the Bible and every public personality, trying to determine who the beast is.Daniel made it clear that the beast was actually a kingdom, headed by a fierce ruler:

Dan 7:23Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

***note: some people think this is the USA, but the USA is not “devouring the entire earth.”Look at what group is spreading around the world, causing destruction in every country, and it will not be the USA.The USA is a democracy, not a kingdom. Daniel and Revelation make it clear that is of ancient Grecian origin (Daniel 7, Rev 13).

Daniel 8:23 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance , and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

Daniel 8:24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practice, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

Daniel 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart , and by peace shall destroy many:

Notice that the ruler claims to be a man of peace, but his peace is destructive.

So, the number of the beast (antichrist kingdom) is the number of a man (666), also called the little horn:

Daniel 8:9 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land(Israel).

The number 666 in the Bible

Recall that the New Testament is written in Greek, so when we examine the number 666, we cannot use Hebrew, or English alphabets and numbers.We have to look at the Greek.

What does the Greek look like?This is 666 in Greek:

I do not see this very clearly, but apparently if one looks atχξςwhich is Greek for 666, and turns it sideways, one sees what is translated as “Bismillah,” or “in the name of Allah.”Look below at the script in gold, not the round object.Focus on the UUU part.Muslims will recognize this right away, because it is also Arabic.

Additionally, crossed swords ( X ) are a symbol for Islam. So in 666 we may find both “Islam” and “in the name of Allah”.

Islam and the number 666

It is interesting to know that many Muslims believe the number “666” to be a holy number. They also believe that the number 19 is holy as well. In knowing this I am not surprised that the number of terrorist that destroyed the World Trade Center was 19. They are called by many in Islam “the magnificent 19″. The number “666” is believed to represent the Quran and the Prophet Mohammed.

The number “666” could very easily be identified by our Lord as the number of a man, since it is a man made doctrine and a man made book, referring to its author Mohammed. Those in Islam that believe in the number “666” and its purity believe that Satan used Christians to pervert the Bible.

They believe that the book of Revelation was inspired by Satan and that he used the number “666” as a bad number in order to prevent Christian people from accepting the Quran and the teachings of Mohammed because of fear.

From the Bible view, it is easy to see the Muslims wearing this number between their eyes, on their foreheads to proclaim their faith in Allah. The mark could also be symbolic, instead of literal, to represent the mind of Islam.

So,  “666” is here.

If 666 is a physical mark, to be worn on the believer in Islam, then anyone who refuses to take the number (accept Islam) will be considered not to be a true believer in Allah and Mohamed. As they conquer other people they will enforce this mark to guarantee support from those that they allow to live.

From their own websites

Accordingto 1st Muslim website:

http://www.66619.org/666.htm  quoted on this Christian website

http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_koran_666.htm

“The number 666 is highly publicized all over the world and it is associated with evil and danger.


However, it is not what it seems. It was a Satanic trick.The trick was to prevent the people approaching the 666.

Satan knew that the 666 is the book of GOD and the people should be kept away from it.According to his plan, he placed a bad image to the number 666.Indeed, it is a glorious Quran, in a preserved master tablet.”

“It is the intent of this newsletter, God willing, to present the readers with easily verifiable and yet utterly irrefutable physical evidences that the Quran, the Final Testament, is indeed the highly publicized “666” that the corrupted Pauline church is afraid of. Satan’s scheme reflected in his book of “The Revelation,” placed in the Bible, to give “the number” a bad connotation shall backfire.

The 19-based mathematical miracle of the Quran shall prove to the whole world that the book, “666,” is without a doubt “a revelation from the Lord of the universe.”

The authorized translation of the Quran shall find its place in every household.

The sincere souls shall receive the message; they shall embrace God’s religion, “Submission,” in throngs.

The corrupted religionists shall be deprived of their illicit earnings. When money, “their god,” is taken away from these human devils, they perish.

The Quran, “666,” was sent down through Prophet Muhammad (G.V. 92) and its mathematical miracle was revealed through Rashad Khalifa (G.V. 505,725).

From a 2nd muslim website… http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

The Message of GOD, The Book of GOD, The Quran, 666 and its Proof, 19.
The letter w is in Arabic Vav and its Gv is 6. Therefore, www becomes 666.
www , World Wide Web is a gift from GOD to humanity that they can talk, watch, read, share, listen anything.


666 , The Quran is a gift from GOD to humanity that it guides to the right path which leads to Heaven.


The proofs shall be the evidences that this Quran is the 666 that Satan, his religions, his temples especially the Church are afraid of.


The Quran is the 666 and GOD preserves the 666 with the number 19.

6 is the first perfect number in mathematics. It is the only number that the sum of its factors andalso the product of its factors equal to the number itself.

1 + 2 + 3 = 6

1 x 2 x 3 = 6

We read in the Quran that GOD created the Heavens and the Earth and all in between in 6 days.


Sura 111 has 100 letters and the Gv of letter Qaf is 100.
Sura 111 has 6 verses ; 111 x 6 = 666 , The Quran
Sura 6 verse 111 is 666 th verse in the Qaf table.


The number 666 is written mathematically as : 6 x 100 , 6 x 10 , 6 x 1


Adding the factors gives the result of the number 111 (100+10+1).


We say “ALLAHUAKBAR” 111 times in daily contact prayers.


Adding all the factors gives the result of 18 (6+6+6) and 111 (100+10+1).
Sura 18 has 111 verses and 18 x 111 = 1998 (666×3)..The Year that The Message “This Quran” delivered.

The creation of biological life on this earth is based on Carbon. Carbon has 6 electrons.


Carbon is the 6th element in the Periodic table.

Additional note from an Islamiat student I talked to:

There are 666 verses, or ayats, in the Quran.

What do you think?

Either the number 666 is the number of the beast [evil], as the Bible describes,

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it is the holy number of the Quran.

You cannot believe the 666 is both good and evil.You have to make a choice as to what you believe.

Is the Bible correct, or is the Quran correct, on this? Your eternal destiny depends on the choice you make.

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*** Some muslims have disputed this 666 as belonging to Islam, while others admit it.  So consider this a theory, not an established fact.

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    • nice insight
      i would want to ask if you know the diffrence between “the God” and “God”
      what you have for us in the translation of 666 into greek is llah meaning God but muslims worship Allah meaning “the God” so we ask which people worship god and which worship the god?

      • dear FG

        Whether it is “god” or “the god” is less relevant than who is this god one worships.

        There is evidence that the god of the bible is different than the god of the quran. The personality is different. The words give different messages.

        while both mention punishment for sin, the god of the bible repeatedly tells the sinner that he loves them, and the god of the quran rarely says this.

        http://www.answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/love.html

        So, if there is one god, then he should be consistent in what he says. If there is inconsistency, then they are different gods.

    • Listen you sadistic nut…. Nowhere is it written in the Qur’an that 666 is the number of God…. Even the use of 786 is prohibited in Islam…. You believe in Christ, muslims believe in Christ as well… It is not even clear that whether the number of the beast is 666 or 616 ’cause the Greek manuscript found was not even clear…. Get a life man and apply your superb mathematics to your ass…. May God bless you and your mind….

      • hi Sanjeev

        This information was obtained from Muslim websites, so your issue is with them, not me.

        I gave the references.

        From what an ex-muslim tells, it means bismallah in arabic.

        • The information you used is from websites?
          How about asking proper muslims, instead of going through an unfathomable amount of crap on the internet :)

          Secondly, for muslims you cannot condense god, of the prophets name into numerical form. It’s not bloody numerology, its a religion for heavens sake.
          The amount of misinformation on this website is preposterous.

          786 does indeed mean Bismillah, to SOME people. Just as you may have radicals in any religion, you have shit stirrers, and radicals in islam too who distort the real image.

          Lastly, you seem like an incurable islamophobe.

          Peace.

          • So, if folks do not like the religion/political system of death, they are islamophobic? Follow Muhammad, or get a new religion!

            What did Muhammad do? He made my god of the kaabba the only god to worship at the Kaabba, he raided caravans, lied, raped, and murdered.

            • 1st off, Muhammad raided caravans cuz the quraish were selling the belongings of his companions so they had a right of taking what was stolen from them. if u closely study Muhammads life u will find that his enemies also said that he is not a lier. another thing is, he never raped. yes he had many wives but he did not rape women. he murdered people who were in war to protect islam. lets take a very important example. the battle of badr. if Muhammad lost the war and didnt kill the quraish in that war, the quraish would have killed him and would have moved o to madinah and would have wiped islam off the planet
              this proves that u have been given some wrong information and ur bad at analysisand it is better not to speak of things u have little knowledge of as the proverb is empty vessels make most noise

              • You should have a closer look at the latest discoveries of historic science. Scientists found out, that the quran has originally been a book, Christians from Syria used in the 5th century and it was first written in their language, not Arabic! Muhammad, which means “the one you should praise”, was a title given to Christ by the oriental Christians of the old times. Through many errors in translations mainly into the Arabic language, Muhammad became a person for himself. There is further evidence in the fact, that the “khalifs” used Christian symbols on their coins and seals (the palm tree of Bethlehem, the lamb of god, Christ as the pantokrator etc.) and absolutely no islamic symbols. The only possible conclusion is, that the Arabs were monophysit Christians who had a problem with the emperors theologicals system of trinity. Even the Pope who declared the 1st Crusade didn’t know about a new religion in the east. He only spoke of “heretics”, and herectics are Christians with a belief that differs from the Roman Church. Look for the latest studies of Karlheinz Ohlig, Christoph Luxenberg, Muhammad Kalisch, Volker Popp and an ever increasing number of scientists who all come to the same conclusion: Muhammad never existed and is a mistaken other name for Jesus, The Christ.

                • jesus did not come back to earth 500 years after he left and become muhammed.

                  i agree about the trinity issue.

                  for true history, read the bible

                  • You took me wrong. The Christ in oriental christianity was mistaken by later Arabs as their prophet Muhammad. Believing in a prophet called Muhammad is a misunderstanding of the Christian message!

          • Sk

            there is no such thing as islamaphobia. that is a fictitious term used by muslims to indicate racism of other peoples.

            but as you say islam is a religion, not a race.

            there is no reason to fear islam, although people have a right to disagree with it and the behavior of islamic extremists who like causing riots, and chopping off heads.

            so, disagreement does not equal fear.

            on this page I was exploring the symbols used by saint john to describe the antichrist. Islam is only one possibility. people have also thought 666 or 616 represents the pope, the queen of engand and other people like hillary clinton and prince charles.

            I do not get offended by other people taking offense. and I do not accept accusations that I am an islamophobe. I think that is a stupid accusation, considering the God of the universe protects me and calls me his own.

            I have nothing to fear whatsoever, except what would happen if I intentionally disobeyed God himself. Man can do nothing to me. I am under the Creator’s wings, and there is a legion of angels around my house assigned to protect me.

            • Marrianne, This is some really interesting stuff. I am working on a book about end time prophecies and would like to use some of your material in my book and possibly on a web site I am working on, is that OK? Please respond to my e-mail address. Thank you

              • dear patbishop

                You cannot use this for commercial purposes….

                so not in the book, which I would assume you would sell copies of.

                You can put it on a free website and give the reference.

              • patbishop100

                You can apply this to your book and website with an appropriate reference.

                Note:

                1)The George Washington Monument is 666″ x 666″ at the base and 555 ft (6660 inches) in height.

                The constructed monument to a man is in the design/form of an Egyptian pagan obelisk 555 ft in hight (6660 inches) with a base of 666″ by 666″ making the structure the largest symbol of 666 in the world.

                Think about it – a monument 666″ x 666″ and 6660″ in hight erected in the middle of the National Mall of the United States. Therefore, The Beast is within the USA.

                2) The structure of the Louvre Pyramid has 666 symbolic rhombi in its design (not panes of glass as is commonly and incorrectly reported).

                The Beast (666) is artistically represented in a pyramid at the largest museum in the world.

                3) www (Internet address) is equivalent to 666 in terms of gematria and position within the Hebrew alphabet.

                http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waw_(letter)

                4) The sum of the numbers 1 through 36 is…666, which is the highest number on a roulette wheel (36). This gives new meaning to gambling when you understand the numerology.

                5) In the Donation, the Pope is referred to as VICARIVS FILII DEI meaning “substitute in the place of the son, God” [or sun-god more likely].

                If you add all the roman numerals I+V+X+L+C+D except for M, (1+5+10+50+100+500) they add up to 666. If you add the M the sum is 1666, the year of the Great Fire of London.

                The phrase VICARIVS FILII DEI adds up to 666 if you drop its non-numerical letters F-A-R-S-E (112+53+501= 666).

                6) Here’s another spelling – FOX NEWS

                F is the 6th letter of the alphabet.
                O is the 15th letter; 1 + 5 = 6
                X is the 24th letter; 2 + 4 = 6

                By concatenation FOX = 666.

                N-E-W-S is north, east, west, and south.

                In a way, Fox News spreads the power of 666 to the four corners of the Earth.

                7) The telephone number president Nixon called to talk to Neil Armstrong, first man to walk on the moon, during the lunar landing of Apollo 11, was 666-6666.

                This number was created by NASA to connect the President of the USA, with an Egyptian obelisk outside the window of the White House, to the first man on the moon.

                8) The sum of the heights of the buildings in the reconstructed World Trade Center in lower Manhattan is 6660 feet.

                Source:

                http://www.secretsinplainsight.com/2011/08/13/666/

                I think 666 is ultimately about the Lucifer and his rebellion implemented by man, making 666 much larger/greater/inclusive than simply just Islam.

                Blessings
                Psalm 64

          • Sanjeev you are a Hindu. What will you know about Islam

        • no hate but gods not dead spread the word of the lord peace to the Muslim i repeat gods not dead amen

      • WOW-you sure got testy over that. You need to show the love you talk about. Why in the world would you call someone a sadistic nut? You need to go pray and repent of your words.

      • What they believe of Jesus is not that he is the Christ at all. They have a completely different and quite erroneous version of Jesus that Mohammed had someone write into the Qu’ran. The person pointed out the Islamic tradition of what they believe of the number 666 not that the information was written in the Qu’ran. Geesh!!

      • Muslims recite the Quran without understanding its meaning. You’re right, it is Muslims who told us that 666 is the number which you will have to have to go to heavens, and what a hateful character is Sanjeev to call people ‘sadistic nuts’. Is that what the Quran also teach? I knew the god of the Quran never said he loves us, but I ignored the fact now that the Quran incites people to insult brothers and sisters! Cornered, hey Sanjeev!

    • Good job on spreading hatred, racism, and more good old american patriotism based on an “ex-muslim`s word“ and websites. I am amused at your resources and the way that this page has been put together: there is no evidence in any of your statements! My first year university english prof would shriek if she read this: you cannot claim someone is wrong by asking a question. STOP IT. STOP SPREADING HATRED TOWARDS MUSLIMS. The reason that American`s are seen as ignorant people in the global commuity is because of your education and patriotic propoganda. Let`s think for a minute, what would Jesus do? While you are telling your fellow christians that Muslims are the beast, without any scholar imput or argument for the opposing side, you are malevolently herding the christian sheep. Jesus would not spread hatred, Jesus would spread love, and your message says that Muslims follow Satan, the devil, and represent the evil of all evil. Wow I just realized something; you are evoking hatred while claiming the side of God. That is terrible, and you should be ashamed of yourselves. Go and make a muslim friend, that is what Jesus would do!

      • there is no hatred. this is an objective look at the 666 described in the bible.

        the book of daniel and the book of revelation describes the beast, and the territories making up the beast.

        modern muslim countries currently make up that territory…..

        I can give you references.

      • Dear Joe
        Jesus did not make friends with the Pharisees though. I do not believe for obvious reasons that Mohammad is as perfect as Jesus was. Jesus did not rape, was not divorced, etc…. Jesus did not encourage terrorism and kill people wherever. Islam came hundreds of years AFTER the Torah and the Bible, the Quram is a man made book, an opportunity in the days of Muhammad to solve political problems. It was a clever turn from Satan to deceive people into believing into this new doctrine.
        We should not make muslims our enemies, but neither should we get too close to them. I have explained in extension the Bible to some muslims who chose the christian faith after, and that was not with hatred, but in love.
        since Muslims also believe in Jesus and in the Holy book of the Bible, go and find out those words which say: “do not get yoked with unbelievers”. It is interesti I have read the Quran but did not find anything interesting. Read the Bible, not in one go, that would be robotic, but portions of chapters at the time, you will not be able to put the book down. I could not when I was an uinbeliever. Now I feel a new being, as if a burden had been lifted from my shoulders. I am free and not bonded to a vicious hatreful religion anylonger

        • Dear Michelle Gerson,

          I sorry that you didn’t find our holy book The Quran (not the Quram ) interesting. However , i think you should be aware of the fact that the only reason why, Allah all mighty had send the Quran was because long ago people had corrupted and changed the bible (just for your information Jesus, in other words Isa was our Prophet). Also said that they, changed the words of God. Therefore, Allah all merciful decide to sent the Holy Quran with our last Prophet Muhammad, who had spread the word of Islam. Allah out of His mercy and kinds willed to preserved the Qur’an for mankind and uses normal men to spread and to preserved the Qur’an by memorizing it and teaching to others. Allah knows best.
          And i just wanted to ask you a question, that aren’t you supposed to be knowing all this, as you have read the whole Quran, for God knows how many times.

        • i just dont understand ONE thing. Muhammad had NEVER raped a woman and u guys are sayuing that he raped women so in other words ur trying to give people wrong info and wh ichever muslim said that he raped women is a hipocrite and a lier

      • Dear Joe Doe; As far as your reference to Jesus would make a friend of the Muslim; What Jesus would do is point out that Muhammad had greatly misrepresented Jesus and all that he preached and that if you really want to know Him that you need to read the whole Bible- old and new testament and then ask Him into your heart and He will show you the way. If the Muslim would keep a deaf ear to the truth, then Jesus would not waste any more time with him and use His time and great love and miracles for believers in the one true Messiah, The Christ, The Word of God. He would explain all of the reasons that Muhammad was NOT divinely inspired and that he was truly a megalomaniac murderer, thief, rapist and pedophile. Americans and Christians DO NOT hate Muslims, they simply DO NOT. We are trying to save you and teach you the way to know God personally and feel His love. May the Lord of all, the Creator of all bless you with peace and love for Him and all fellow men.

        • Once and for all time: Historic science has found out, that there has never been a person called Muhammad. He’s just a misinterpretation of Jesus! Instead of trying to fight other’s beliefs, everyone here should have a close look at the scientific facts! There has never been a christian answer to a new religion called islam by any christian philosopher or bishop befor the 11th century or maybe later. This alone should prove, that there has not been a new religion, because every new religion or philosophy caused a christian reaction. Concerning Muhammad? Nothing! Concerning islam? Nada! Why should the church hold a council in enemy territory of a new religion? If the Arabs had been muslims, the church would have done that in Spain and other places of the muslim world. But this is eben more proof, that islam was invented much later! The oldest hadith that tells about the life of a certain prophet called Muhammad was written around 850! That is more than 200 years after that person is said to have existed. Can there be any truth in it? I think it’s not more reliable than Grimm’s fairy tales! There is no mention of Muhammad in the quran, only the word muhammad, which means “the one we should praise” is used four times. The persons who are mentioned most are Moses (Musa) and Jesus (Isa). Even the holy places of today’s islam are never mentioned! Mekka is never mentioned (only Bakka, but that’s a city in Iraq!) and the word medina is mentioned a few times, but that just means “city” and could be any city in the whole world. By the way: Archaeologists have found out, that during the early 7th century there has not been a big city called Mekka at all. It was a small village with no caravans and no prospering life at all. So even this part of his biography is pure fiction. Come on people, try to use the things we can learn and know to find out what is right or wrong! We can never prove our faith, but we can show how things have never been!

          • I think you need to tell this to 3 billion muslims….and see if you can convince them of this.

            • This would be a nice challenge, but truth is truth, even if everyone denies it! I’ve been talking to many muslims and the modern ones accept the scientific facts and try to live in a modern way with ethics that are imho identical to those of christians. And what did Jesus say? Those belong to me who DO my father’s will! And…by the way: Knowing that “muhammad” means Jesus implies, that muslims praise Jesus, even if they don’t know… :-)

              • that is a step in the right direction…but they do need to continue on and accept him as savior….3 billion muslims are a staggering amount of souls to be lost….let us pray they catch on in time.

          • don’t be self centered,biased in your mind, just make research and will finally arrive at the truth and consequently you will become a muslim. But dont talk what you know not

            • I will never worship my god of the Kaaba and Muhammad raped and murdered. So, I’m not following him.

              I guess, I won’t becoming a worshiper of Sin anytime soon. What do you think of that mudiya?

              BTW, which Muslim are you? Sunni, or Shia? ISIS follower, or a 12th Imam believer? Now, get to following Muhammad, or get another religion/political system.

      • One can not be racist about a religion/political system. Your not very bright are you?

      • I cant say Jesus would advise to make a muslim friend. Umm have you even read the quran? Did you know that muslims can lie, steal, and kill the non-muslims and its praised in there culture! Sounds familiar dosent the enemy come for the same reason? Don’t ever trust a muslim! And that comes from experience. Read the bible and see how much God’s wrath is out for them. Read the quran and see what there God says of christians and jews! Clearly light and darkness! And they dont dwell together! That dosent mean we cant pray for them I do all the time. But would I be friends with one absolutely not!
        – just saying

        • Quran 3:28 or Quran 3:28 are two different translations of the Quran verse and says exactly the same in summary:

          “Let not the believers (muslims) take the unbelievers for friends, or their companions instead for the believers (muslims): if someone does, then you have no contact with Allah [They
          does not represent islam anymore and can be killed ]: unless muslims take precautions, and plays fake (Guard yourselves from them) [Which means that muslims say that they are unbelievers (non-muslim's) best friends when in fact they hate them ].

          • I grew up around a lot of muslims and I’m telling you there is so much satanic darkness and demons around them its not even funny. When it comes to the non-muslims they will deceive and destroy you just like there God Satan tells them! There plotting destruction against us daily they shouldn’t even allow them in our country! I don’t hate them I pray against the forces of darkness that drive them. But until they repent and see Christ as the king and son of God they should be looked at as the anti Christ! PERIOD they are not our friends!

    • First, it is important to understand how and why the number 666 even acquired significance in some cultures although it has absolutely no significance in Islamic theology.

      The most prominent and direct origin of the significance for the number 666 is the one in the New Testament, which proclaims that the mark of the devil is the number 666:

      [Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.] (Revelation 13:18, King James Version)

      Los Angeles Times writer Michael Muskal notes the following:

      It is in the New Testament that 666 makes its appearance as the sign of evil, the Beast, the Devil, the Antichrist who marks the forehead or right hand of all as a sign of his supremacy. Because Greek and Hebrew letters are associated with numbers, the letters of the name of Evil spell out the numbers 666. Some argue the sign is really 616, but 666, with its outsized numerological mysteries, seems to be the favorite interpretation.

      Even among Christians and people of other faiths, there is disagreement as to the significance of 666 as being the number of the devil. But this brief background helps to give readers a better idea of why the number 666 even came to be important.

      Second, with regards to Islam, the number 666, or any other number for that matter, has no significance whatsoever. In fact, Muslims have been warned from assigning significance or meaning to signs, symbols, and icons of any kind.

      The religion itself demands absolute conviction and commitment to monotheism, that is, the unity and the oneness of Allah (God), and to the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the authentic, unadulterated sources of Islamic teachings.

      Muslims do believe there is a being known as Shaytan (Satan), who is an avowed enemy of mankind and whose sole purpose is to lead mankind astray, away from Allah, and tempt us to do evil.

      However, in Islamic teachings, there is neither a form nor a shape, nor a sign nor a number, nor an icon nor an idol associated with Satan. Further, Muslims are prohibited from engaging in any form of fortune-telling, divining, visiting soothsayers, or holding superstitious beliefs. For more on this and on the Islamic view of the supernatural, see the special page on Jinn & Magic in Islam.

      Finally, it is important to note that without exception, beliefs and ideologies that are man-made are prone to error, as they are entirely products of human imagination.

      Therefore, the number 666 or any other such sign or symbol to which human beings have attributed significance or meaning, have little utility, if any, other than to lend a false sense of control and security to those who would believe in them.

      For Muslims, comfort, solace, security, and peace all emanate from Allah — from faith in Allah (God) and from trust in Allah alone to be the best disposer of human affairs, as He is the loving Creator of us all. No numbers game, algorithm or formula, no matter how imaginative, can substitute for the power of God and God alone. And God knows best.

    • 666 = Quran = Evil

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  4. Very, very interesting…
    …wait, you mean it’s NOT the barcodes on groceries? *grin*
    ~Anastazia~

    • No, not the barcodes…Muslims right now use Bismillah allahu akbar, my understanding, in their chants and prayers, according to ex- Muslim friends I have talked with…they use a bandanna or wristwrap on their foreheads or their right arm/wrist…and if you look at what John wrote in Revelation, from what he say very well could have been the Arabic phrase and not the Greek, because there is good evidence that the New Testament was written in Aramaic (not Arabic) and translated to Greek because most people spoke and read Greek, and the Greeks might have just looked at that and assumed it was the numeric version of 666

    • Hi Anastazia,
      666 is many things. It is Islam, muslims owe a large portion of our economy starting with petrol (oil) which we cannot do without. Even if you do not have a car and your use a plastic folder, this folder is made with petrol! The World Bank barcode last 3 digits is 666. Muslims owe many companies and banks, TV channels, they are in our politics (members of parliament, etc). It is the new to infiltrate a religion into the World. By integrating themselves with their money and investments, then political membership. All there remains to do now is Islam to force their religion on the world and that’s not far either. Then Satan will finally require us to worship him, something that has bothered him since Adam and Eve. He wants to overthrow the real God Yaweh, the God of the Jews and of the Christians, but unfortunately, his strategy will once more fail and will be short-lived when the number 666 is revealed. It will be a choice, but if we don’t accept it nor accept to worship the god of Islam, we will be tortured, put to death, because we refused to accept the number of the beast (Islam).
      I believe in the real God who inspired the prophets of the Torah, the God of the old and new testament, the God who sent Jesus (Isa) his own son to redeem the sin of Adam and Eve, so that we can be saved, as opposed to an angel who appeared to Mohammad, a mere man, who perverted humanity and inspired terrorism.
      No thank you

      • The Global Elite consist of 13 Inbreeding Satanic Families, and it is these very corrupt people who own and run the World, the way they want it to be run. They worship an egregore of thinking Luciferian Entities that have only hatred for all of Humanity except of course for the Global Elite, who have been given the knowledge of these Entities and the long forgotten knowledge of the Ancients, of whom the Elite have mostly removed from History. We must return to what and who we really are, which is all of Mankind living in the moment, where past and future are of no concern. When living ‘in the moment’ frees us from our negative emotions such as fear, hate and guilt. The most important thing we need is to go back to the Beginning and truly LIVE in the NOW. This is both, physically and mentally a wondrous way to experience Life the way it is meant to truly be.

      • Every religion throws fear and guilt, as but another way the Elite use to brainwash and keep the masses under their Control. The Elite also deceive and brainwash the masses by manipulating us into believing there is Terrorism all around us. George W. Bush said:”You’re either with us or you are with the Terrorists…in other words; we are f****ed if we are with Either Camp, mainly because then President George W. Bush was the one who gave the Orders for the Military to murder a Million and a Half innocent people for the main purpose of angering Muslims whose faith is for Allah. The Elite have had everything figured out many many years ago. It is all going down for the beginning of the new Age and the bringing in of a Fascist, Nazi, New World Order. There will no longer be; freedom of Speech, freedom of movement, no more freedom at all. It won’t matter for most of us because these Savages; Parasites on Humanity are going to murder almost all of us except the best and brightest of Mankind, about 500 Million of whomever they choose, to do the work that is required of them, to help keep the so called Elite to keep living in the way they’ve been accustomed to to live like all of their putrid lives. Maybe there is a Rapture where and when it will happen is still just a guess. Maybe there will be a Rapture where many Christ worshipers may be ‘taken’ before the Great Tribulation begins. Myself? I refuse to sit and wait for a Miracle to happen.. Instead I intend to Stock up with mostly food, warm clothing, bedding and weapons to help keep my family safer from the onslaught that is coming to the World. Jesus told us: “I will be here until the end of the AGE” which makes perfect sense because there will be no one left to worship Him.

  5. Anastazia

    Well, I guess barcodes could be used also. But when people admit what it is, it makes it an easier decision.

    blessings
    marianne

  6. The israelinbibleprophecy website is a CHRISTIAN website intended to wake a slumbering church up from the fog of unsound eschatology as well as evangelize muslims. There are printable foldable tracts available for this purpose as well.

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat004.html#8

  7. hi Pete

    Thank you for the reference. I will send people your way. Best wishes to you, and success for your efforts.

    blessings
    marianne

  8. Thanks. You might want to change your text above:

    “From their own websites

    According to 1st Muslim website :

    http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com/islam_koran_666.htm

    Since mine is a Christian site

  9. Hi Pete

    Thank you for pointing that out. I had several references. I must have gotten them mixed up. I will try to go back and fix it, once I figure out where the other Muslim website was…..

    blessings
    marianne

  10. The next one after it IS a Muslim website.

  11. Pete

    I got it now :)

    blessings
    marianne

  12. That information is wrong I am a muslim we don’t believe that nonsenses if you want to Know about Islam go to that website

    http://www.whyislam.org/877/

  13. Hello Nada.

    I got this information from a Muslim website. The reference is given on the page. If you feel this is wrong, then contact that website and discuss it with them to get it corrected. When they correct it, let me know.

    thank you
    marianne

    • this is false and full of lie.. i am a Muslim and i say Bullshit the 666 ang 19.

      Obama already started the Biochip injection code 666.. so you say that obama is a Muslim?

      and what moon God? we are not worshiping the moon. only idiots worship the moon.. you don’t know about the symbols.

      and about the surah 111. it has only 5 verses.. (not 6) and 149 characters (not only 100).

      and we in daily mass prayers we say ALLAHUABAK, only a total of 77 times (not 111).

      there is no holly numbers or holly people.. only holly books ( the real holly psalm of David, the real holly Testaments of Moses containing the Commandments of God, the real holly gospel of Jesus and the Holly Qur’an of Mohammad). all of these books were written by Messengers of Allah(swt). and who wrote Bible? Romans who tried to crucify Prophet Jesus..

      and who says we are anti-christ? we love Jesus Christ more that other religion do. the Holly Qur’an even mention d Jesus Christ and his Mother Mary in many different surahs.. and have you wonder why his mother Mary wears a veil like a Muslim woman should? Roman Chatolics are the anti-Christ who were happy seeing Jesus Christ Crucified.

      surah 4. verse157 of Holly Qur’an
      That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

      surah3 verse 3 of Holly Qur’an
      It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong).

      and now someone is saying that Qur’an is just plagiarized from the Bible? the Holly Qur’an should not be changed. while John’s Bible has been edited many times.

      and ask yourself. do you really believed that Jesus Christ have apostles named peter, john,mathew etc.? they are romans and romans hated Jesus Christ, that is why they want him to be crucified.. and now they become his apostles?

      • Obama admitted he was a muslim.

        I just rely what I find.

        I accept your rejection of the post.

        yes, jesus really had apostles who learned from him.

        The bible is not edited many times. it is the truth.

        antichrist means to say he is Jesus, but he denies who Jesus is, and acts like a different jesus.

        • hahaha..you are so funny saying that Obama admitted he was a muslim.. and ofcourse Jesus Christ had apostles, but they are not Romans. Muslims know more about life of Jesus Christ than you do.. you might be upset if i would say that Jesus Christ is not really dead until now..because he was accended to heaven. and the one the the Romans (Chatholics) crucified was not really Jesus Christ but the Lord God made it appear that it was Jesus Christ.

          repost:
          surah 4. verse157 of Holly Qur’an
          That they said (in boast), “We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah”;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-

          and do you really think that God would have enemy? even Devils worship the Lord God because they are just ones of His Creature. Devils (Jinns) are enemy of mankind, because they were jealous of us. they wanted the humans to be in the wrong path so that our Lord God will hate us and put us to hell. the Jinns swear to the Lord God that humans are not worthy of His Love and it was proven by the jinns when Adan and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. but the Merciful God forgiven them. But the Jinns/devils ask to challenge the Humans and that is why Lord God put us in earth.

          John (the first) from Rome was one of the instrument of Jinns to put us in the wrong path. He plagiarized the Holly Gospel and the Holly Testament together with the other author (peter, mathew etc.) and call this Bible fooling the People to worship Jesus Christ as God. john then went back to Rome and started a new religion symbolized by Crucified Jesus Christ.

          the Qur’an tells the story of the past, present and the future, including the end of world.. and the sign includes the appearance of gog, magog and the Pseudo-Christ or fake-christ and the return of Real Jesus Christ from Heaven to save the Muslims (believers). take note, Muslims are the every person who believes in the only One God.

          if you are not one of the instrument of jinns. i hope you’ll find the truth and spread it to the world.. the Lord God will forgive you for whatever you have done if just ask forgiveness to Him sincerely, for He is the most Merciful. bless all the believers of only one God..

          • robert

            what you believe is typcial of islam, and why you have one God allah, and we have our own God. YHVH

            • i wanna ask you. do you believe that there is only one Creator of everything in the universe who created mankind, angels and demons? and that Creator is the most powerfull against everything? if you said yes, i suggest you read Qur’an, because for me you are a muslim (meaning believer). you may have just followed different “path of life”. its up to you if you believe it or not.

              but if you worship Prophet Jesus Christ, Buddah, a cow, or anything other than the Creator, or worship nothing at all, you are not a “believer”.

              as a Muslim , my God is the one and only who created the mankind, angels, demons and everything in the universe.. and anyone who worship the-Creator, the-Master of all being, is a “believer” or in arabic “muslim”. but please be aware that there are “believers” who follows and “believers” that do not follow the right path. and there are also “disbelievers” who pretend to be “believers”.

              if you could see, i rarely use arabic terms in my comments. this is to avoid most the common misterpretations.

              the word “Allah” is just the arabic translation of the english term “the God”. but those who are novice to Islam thought that This was His name. the Gospel of Prophet Jesus was written in Aramaic, so it is impossible to see an arabic “allah” in that Holly book. instead, it was written as “Elaw”. in Qur’an it was just written as “Allah” because this Holly book was written in arabic. But those IGNORANT people who claims themselves as muslims thought that arabic is the language of Heaven, but this is not true.

              I will not hate you for hating the “so called” Muslims because of what you have seen in the media or what you hear in your environment. but i wanna tell you that those things you heard or seen that makes you hate muslims are against the Teachings of Islam.

              PS: most of not ignorant people knows that websites and blogs may have contents that are very far from truth. i suggest you not to foolishly believe on things like that the next time you search the web.
              PS: if you still don’t believe that there are many versions of Bible just ask google

              and I just wanna add this:
              —————-
              Surah 2: verse 84 –And most certainly We gave Moses the Book and We sent messengers after him one after another; and We gave Jesus, the son of Marry, clear arguments and strengthened him with the holy spirit, What! Whenever then a messenger came to you with that which your souls did not desire, you were insolent so you called some liars and some you slew.
              —————

              I hope you find the very truth.. have a nice day :)

              • robert

                I accept the fact that you believe in your faith. Most impressions are made about any religion by watching the behavior of its followers.

                I can see negative behavior of Muslims, and I can see negative behavior of Christians. There is only ONE bible….all the “versions” were written for clarity.

                They have all the same CONTENT…..so they are all the same.

                • NO they are not the same.. some versions may have the same content in some part. but not all parts. and not all versions.

                  make this as your reference. PLEASE READ THOROUGHLY

                  some changes are just minors but some really alters the meaning.

                  http://www.fillthevoid.org/Versions/Differences-1.html

                  http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/apologetics/comparisons_of_bible_versions.shtml

                  http://www.bible-researcher.com/rsv-bibsac.html

                  http://www.valera1909.com/discrepancies.htm

                  you cannot say that this is just a problem caused by translations of words. because some changes are ommisions of words, ommissions of verses and complete change of verses’ contests.

                  these are REAL christian websites so you may find justifications for these changes. m

                  for what ever purpose of these changes. i don’t really care.. for this is just a Book written by Men. that is why many authors are not afraid of changing its contents.. and if you will say that this is the Holly Book delivered by the Lord God. Why would he permit this to be altered?

                  there are four Holly Books
                  1. Psalm/zabur by Prophet David
                  2. torah/Testaments by Prophet Moses
                  3. Injeel/Gospel by Prophet Jesus
                  4. Qur’an by Prophet Mohammad

                  and the Bible was just written by John the first of Galilee combining his knowledge from first three Holly Books with alterations.. together with his friends who claimed that they are Prophet Jesus’ apostles so that they maybe praised as saints and some religion even worship this so called saints as God.. they are not Prophets of God, who are they to write their own Holly book?

                  read your own Bible and examine.. and tell your audience if their coincides without telling another lie. i’ll give you some to starts with

                  Job 26:7 versus Psalm 104:5
                  Acts 9:7 versus Acts 22:9
                  II Samuel 14:27 versus II Samuel 18:18
                  Leviticus 15:24 versus Leviticus 20:18

                  just open your eyes and brain, you’ll find more than that :)

                  open your mind and your heart and ask yourself.. who is God and who is satan? satan is the one that will do anything to lead as astray in the path towards the Love of God.

                  • you can argue all you want. I have read the different “versions.”

                    there is no difference between them

                    It is also obvious you have never read he bible.

                    the best you can do is copy and paste arguments….you get from the internet.

                    even if you did read the bible, you would not understand it, because it takes the presence of the holy spirit to understand it.

                    • your are really funny. you are the one who copied and paste most. you don’t even own copyright of the images you posted. not only to this page but as well as to your other pages. hahaha

                      and how could it be that i haven’t read the bible when I grew up as Born Again Christian? anyway thanks for your replies. I enjoyed commenting. I have said enough. I just want to share enlightments to the innocents.what ever you do to yourself, i don’t care anymore. I am not afraid of whatever you do to just to twist the truth about our Religion, because even the combinations of all satans would have no match to the Great Lord God.. and I am not afraid of the end of the world because I know God will be there for us. I am only afraid to the wrath of our Lord God, the Creator, the Sovereign of the Universe…

                      pity the unbeliever especially for those who twist the truth for they will end up in hell.

                      i jz want to repeat.. everything in the post is untrue.. 666 has nothing to do with my Religion. there is no magnificent 19 nor any holly numbers. everything in the post about Islam was just a lie and fabricated by evils..

                      there is no surah in the Qur’an that would say that 666 or any number is holly. I can’t forget how funny you said Obama admitted that he was a Muslim. such a foolish lie.

                      666 is bullshit!!! could you say that also? MAYBE you can’t. maybe its holly number for you?

                  • But what about all the different versions of the quran? There were so many discovered throughout the years? Many were hidden in mosques, the so-called othmanic quran is a fiction from far later times. The original text was written by the syro-aramaic people and many of the so called dark parts of the quran only make sense in syro-aramaic language.
                    Surely, there are many versions of biblical texts, because many scripts from the early christian centuries have been found and some of them differed slightly or to greater amounts, partly because of misspellings, different theologies of the people who wrote it or because they wanted to explain things within the text, not in a comment. But the quran is just the same. Most muslims think that the quran from Cairo (1925) is the same that was given to the prophet. But that’s wrong, there are dozens of different text versions throughout the medieval times. And what about all the misspellings in the quran, the wrong use of grammatical phenomena, the misunderstanding of names (quraisch are mistaken as a tribe, but they were people who worked for the emperor of Constantinopolis). Have a look at the latest scientific studies concerning early islam. There is enough evidence, that Muhammad is a mistaken version of Christ, as Jesus was called Muhammad by the syro-aramaic Christians. Malik who built the dome in Jerusalem wrote his beliefs in Jesus, the servant, crucified and raised from the dead… And Malik was a kalif in islamic tradition! And he had pictures of Jesus as the pantokrator printed on his coins, and the agnus dei (lamb of god) and the palm tree of Bethlehem. Why did all the khalifs choose Christian holy places for their castles (Damascuc – the place where the head of John the baptist was kept) and not Mekka, the holy city of islam? And why – if there ever had been a prophet called Muhammad- did all of the people in the territories that he is said to have conquered still paid their taxes to the king of Persia and the emperor of Eastern Rome? You should look for the latest releases by scientists like Muhammad Kalisch, Karlheinz Ohlig, Christoph Luxenberg, Volker Popp and dozens of others who come to the only possible conclusion: Muhammad is a fiction of medieval times and never really existed. Sorry. God bless you.

                    • according to quran, muhammed is not jesus, or another name for him.

                      early christians never called jesus by the name of muhammed.

                      i agree that muhammed could be a fictional character. it was said he could not read or write, so other people wrote the quran for him.

                      but then it seemed like he was real. he killed a lot of people who opposed him and left a trail of blood everywhere he went.

                • do not be so naive to say that the bible and the Qur’an have the same content, first of all the bible lost its purity due to various changes into the 1000 and so versions, if at all it contains any truth, it’s about 2%, and for the Holy Qur’an, it has never been changed for the 1400 years of it’s existence, this has been the greatest challenge to mankind, not that they have never tried to change it or add, omit or alter anything in it but the Almighty ALLAH promised to protect it from any changes until the Judgement day. too little of what is in the bible is contained in the Qur’an and its only that which was decreed by God.

          • “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
            ~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)
            Demonic voices were speaking into Muhammed’s head. Not the Angel Gabriel. Everything Muhammed said about Jesus was false.

            • Hallo Lyn if you are citing right than al tabari 6:111 is 6×111=666.
              btw i’m from muslim origin and it is impossible to debate with them.they are ignoring and lying to anything that makes islam look negative.but just ask them
              how a good god could have sent a pedophile(aisha 6years)massmurdering(banu quayriza genozid) enslaver like mohammed.
              And he was no pedophile massmurderer before he became muslim.

    • I want to thank you for all your work and caring.
      Many Muslims are not aware of their own teachings,
      and will defend it. This is found true of all false
      religions where the ‘outer circle’ knows nothing about
      what is going on yet it will be the outer circle that has
      to do all the fighting and will be sacrificed up if need
      be. That is really being a victim.

      • I know, every time one of them argues against what I say, I have to look the verses from their book up for them and point it out to them. They don’t even know their own books and are taught false things about ours. Whenever you see Louis Farrakhan or other Islamic hatemongers trying to convert Christians, they misquote the Bible like crazy and twist it so badly and the not so good Christians believe them and convert. I’ve never seen liars so blatant as Islamists.

  14. It never ceases to amaze me how “moderate” muslims differ so vastly from what has come to be known as “radical”. In every system of belief, it’s always the extremists (I suppose Christianity has its holy rollers or fundamentalists-evangelical is becoming such a dirty word, tut tut), who represent the more centrist ideals in truth. So true Islam is that belief that seeks to agressively reform the infidel. The truth of the matter is that those muslims who decry the view that theres is a religion of violence and subjugation are those who are novice in their beliefs. That or theyre in denial.

    • You obviously have not read the Qu’ran or the Haddith, have you? There are two kinds of Muslims, the hateful ones that want to kill all non-Muslims and the ones who don’t know their books very well and think they have a peaceful “religion” and call themselves “moderates”. There is no separating sharia law from islam. They are one and the same. Osama bin Laden and the Taliban were following the commands of Muhammed.
      I have read both books all the way through with an open mind and I know for a fact that Muhammed was a sociopath, heard demonic voices and acted on them. You also need to study the ancient history of the region, including the ancient arab pagan religions.

      • please why so much rivalry between our great religions i am a muslim and i have many christian friends who respect islam as i respect and love my christian and jewish brothers and sisters. whats with this relation between islam and 666 it isnt true i have read the quran and have studied the bible and and although diffirent in many aspects the principles are similar muslims believe in prophet jesus we believe he will be the saviour acompanied by the mahdi from the prophets bloddline i follow the teachings of the prophet and worship the same god you guys do and it is also in line with what jesus and moses taught why do we let our diffirences sepreate us and make us enemies why can we not unite under the common good love thy neighbour and respect each other and satan will have no grip

        UNITED WE STAND DIVIDED WE FALL

        • dear maxik

          peace

          the rivalry starts when the holy books are accused of being corrupt and they claim message is not true.

          It is ok to discuss differences, but not attack.

          people also have to realize that some differences will not become resolved until Jesus comes back., so there is no use in arguing about the.

          I personally live in peace with muslims around me where I live, and I have a foreign student from a muslim family living with me, so he can go to school.

          Bad times are ahead in this world, and god does not want anyone to perish, but to be saved, physically and spiritually.

          Love and mercy should triumph over differences.

        • Maxis
          Muslims, Jews and Christians are not friends. It says in the Quran to eradicate Jews from the Arab peninsula. The Bible says that the Hebrews / Jews are God’s people. It makes no sense. We require a man to say something about the future and it should happen to call him a prophet. It does not make you. Muhammad raped people. He had sex with a nine year old. He forced his son to divorce his wife so he could marry her, etc. Islam has copied lots and modified it from Judaism and Christianity. Muhammad said that he is the last prophet and Jesus said that he is the last as a liar. Jesus said it, a future that will deny that God has a son he is the Antichrist. It is only Muhammad who has come as a religious leader and said this. So you and your followers are not my brothers and I do not want to live as friends with you. I hate you. The only thing that causes me to be kind to a Muslim is that it is in our scriptures to love their enemies as you are.

          • Sorry. used google translate and i don´t understand the translation.

            • what you say about prophet muhammmed(pbuh) isnt true he was great man who spread the word of god and how can he be the anti christ- who is the false prophet who aims to lead people astray prophet muhammed did not do that instead he also warned that one day the antichist will come and jesus will also come and defeat it

  15. Hi Amardo,

    You are looking at Revelations First Horse (white) which comes in the name of peace, yet carries the sword, in order to conquer the world. Following is the Red horse of war, which means the terrorism will increase, not get conquered. :(

    Any talk of peace is just a strategy to gain acceptance. However, there really are muslims who do not strongly adhere to what the others think. They just want to be left alone. I call these cultural muslims, not religious muslims.

    blessings
    marianne

  16. I Leatherneck, the Greatest of all Barbaric Christian Infidels will never surrender to allah the false moon god of Islam.

    Be careful, Muslims are allowed to lie to Infidels.

    ROPMA

    • Dear, leatherneck

      MUSLIMS, are compelled to lie to INFIDELS(un believers, hindu’s, sikhs, buddists, pagans, wiccans ect) then kill them if they reject ISLAM. Muslims are commanded to exert their Scriptural DOMINANCE, politically,legally ,socially over PEOPLE of the BOOK(Christians & Jews).

      Mandatory LYING to non muslims is known as TAQIYA or KITMAN. Only SUCKERS believe in all the Kumbaya RELIGION of PEACE bravo sierra. I have known several decent muslims, but keep it secular. Just tell them you are a follower of JESUS CHRIST and leave it alone. Never joke about their sick PROPHIT, as it will turn a so called moderate into a HEAD CHOPPER in a New York second.

  17. Hi Leatherneck,

    You are just so wild and funny. :)

    Maybe the Infidels might end up lying to the Muslims. :)

    blessings
    marianne

  18. Islam and The 666 Connection

    For generations, the mysterious meaning of the a particular passage of The Revelation of St. John the Divine, (the last book of The New Testiment has been debated. The passage reads as follows (According to The Authorized King James Version)

    13:16And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    13:17And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
    13:18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

    There are other examples of “recieving a mark” cited in the Bible that give more insight into this, for example:

    Exodus Chapter 13 Verse 9
    This observance will be for you like a sign on your hand and a reminder on your forehead that the law of the LORD is to be on your lips. For the LORD brought you out of Egypt with his mighty hand. 10 You must keep this ordinance at the appointed time year after year.

    Exodus Chapter 13 Verse 13
    And it will be like a sign on your hand and a symbol on your forehead that the LORD brought us out of Egypt with his mighty hand.”

    So, whether the mark will actually be a physical mark is even a matter of debate. The mark may in fact be symbolic of the recipient observing or celebrating an event, or perhaps a reflection of exactly whose law is on one’s lips.

    Also, notice there are three possible scenerios regarding the “mark”. “The mark”, “the name of the beast”, or “the number of his name”.

    The mark may or may not be simply “666”. However what we do know is that the number of the beast is “666”.

    If the beast represents a religion, and if that reliion is Islam, the following statement would have to make sense. “The number of Islam is 666.”

    Here is how this makes sense.

    To begin with one must think in terms of the calendar in use at the time of the writing.

    The calendar we use today is a variation of the Annos Domini dating system which was not devised until 525 A.D.

    If one were to analyze whether there is a connection to 666 to be found in a calendar, the more logical choice might be to consider the calendar in use at the time of the writing. During the period of the Roman Empire, the calandar
    most commonly used was the calender created by Julius Caesar. It was devised in 46 BC and went into use in 45 BC.

    Simply put, 45 years after it was put into use, Jesus Christ was born. We know this date (year) as 1 A.D. (Note that there is no 0 AD or 0 BC).

    Some 621 more years went by bringing it to 622 A.D. – A total of 666 years from the first year of use of the Julian Calendar.

    The year of the creation of Islam – 622 A.D. (as we know it) being 666 years after the establishment of the dating method in use at the time the prophesy was written.

  19. Hi Watchtower

    That is interesting. I never thought of it like that. Thanks.

    blessings,
    marianne

  20. You have to swear an oath, and recieve a mark. The mark of the beast. Those who except the mark will not make it to Heaven. The beast will not be known until it receives a head wound, and is healed by Lucifer.

    With a Commie elected POTUS, you nice folks might consider placing a few important things in a safe place.

    • if this were true, satan could give life & God wouldn’t be the only one who could give life. It is much more likely this referes to something else, the beasts kingdom, power, etc.

      • He wouldn’t give life…he would possess a dead body and bring it to “life” per se…it would be Satan in carnal form. I remember in the scriptures there was some “drama” over hiding Moses’ body when he died (God charged his angel to hide his body) so that Satan would not “consume” it…”possess” etc…Is this right Marianne? Silvan?

        • I do not think that Satan could possess a dead body.( moses)

          • Found the reference in Jude 1:9.. 9 But (AC)Michael (AD)the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about (AE)the body of Moses…”

            Not much more is said regarding why Satan wanted Moses’ body…one can only assume and even then we could be wrong. I am not saying that “for sure” this is what Satan wanted to do or even could do…I was just trying to make the point that Satan is not able to give life at all-he would have to “steal” it per se.

  21. Hi Leatherneck

    The Jews said that, in Russia, the government went in and confiscated their bank accounts, promising to return the “borrowed” money. It never did. Just a thought.

    blessings
    marianne

  22. The Bible says that “Gog” is “the one all the prophets have spoken about.” Who will that be? The Antichrist! Also, if you compare Revelation with Ezekiel 39, there are identical phrases. Gog is the Antichrist who invade an Israel at Peace, just as Jesus said the Antichrist will do. And Jesus warns the people to flee from the land so fast as to not even get their belongings. Why? Because Islamic people will rape even pregnant women! And Islam is the Antichrist religion. So many have been looking for a European leader or an American president, or the Catholic church. All the while, Islam has been taking over the world, and has every component of the Antichrist’s kingdom

    • I agree and even though Israel only takes up .01% off all of the land that the Muslims have, they want to take Israel as well. The Jewish Nation has done more with that tiny piece of land in 70 years than almost any nation has done in hundreds. It has blossomed and when they regained their nationhood and land, they did offer full citizenship to Muslims and anyone else there that wanted it. The “refugee camps” were where they had to put the anarchists who should have just left if they didn’t want to live under the Israeli flag. God has blessed Israel time and time again and the anti-Semites just aren’t very observant, I guess. God wanted them re-established there and He will have His way, one way or another. God is the ultimate Zionist, lol.

  23. Hi Al

    I totally agree with you. I hope others see this soon.

    blessings
    marianne

  24. the numerical equivalent of “Bismillah” is 786 and not 666. Also, everything said about 666 is just a fabrication, Muslim/Islamic website or not. As for the kind of bullshit that is considered as evidence is unbelievable and shows how desperate u’v become to just find anything to slander Islam.

    Gog and Magog are not the Anti-christ whether it be Islam, Christianity and Judaism. That goes to show that people delivering verdicts on civilizations are incapable of basic research. If i go to the web and try to find a website that provides some twisted logic to prove that Jesus or the Jews are evil, am sure i can find a few but i have better sense then that.

    Also, the fact about “Israel at peace” being attacked, we all know how at peace Israel really is. One has to be blind to not see what Israel stands for and the kind of injustice has been delivered to the middle east in the name of “Peaceful Israel”.

    Half of American Congress is licking Isreali balls every year at the Israeli Lobby AIPAC meeting. Thats how strong Israeli lobby in USA is. No wonder everyone sounds like ignorant and naive here.

  25. Listen to Obama’s speech at the AIPAC meeting this year, you wont find the guy vying for the most powerful designation in the world but a weakling looking for AIPAC favor. Garbed under anti-semitism, israeli lobby is so strong in the USA that the average american is naive about whats’ going on in the name of a Zionist state. A tiny country has USA by the balls and dictates its foreign policy.

    Go “Youtube” the israeli lobby and u’ll find some useful facts. Please wake up.

  26. Jesus told christians of a man called ahmed or mohammad who will com after him and tell the truth about Allah. (is also shown in the “Passion of the christ”).

    This whole bullshit about 666 and Islam is there because u cant understand why muslims are fighting USA and the Zionists in the first place. Because u cant see how USA and CIA has interfered in the evolution of muslim countries, installing CIA run puppet goverments and meddling in theri affairs for decades.

    Qutb Hussaini and Aimal Zawahari, two of the forerunners of the modern muslim jihadi were held captive in egypt by CIA and tortured. They would strip them naked, smear animal fat on their bodies and then let loose human attacking dogs on them in closed cages. Qutb hussaini has a heart attack during one of these episodes. Before that time they were for peaceful and political change but this torture (proven, basic research will tell you that its true how the egyptian government with help from CIA crushed these muslim student leaders once they became powerful enough to take over government. It is the brutality and other acts of USA and CIA that turned these people into extremists but what would you guys know about that. You just woke up after 911 or you would still be drinking beer and watching superball sunday without any knowledge of the atrocities ur government is committing around the world.

    • In Islam Jesus is called the prophet Isa
      He was trying to spread the same message as the prophet muhammad PBUH………….but….
      Even though the bible was found over the years it got changed and changed until it is now the lie today.
      I once spoke to a Christian teacher on this and he said tat the pages of the bibles were brought together (the ones tat were part of the ‘pure’ bible) but u can’t bring back something Tats been lost 1000w of years.If ur christian beliefs are true then why did the bible got changed 100s of times in history??UNLIKE THE QURAN which hasn’t been changed since the day it was made by Allah!!!!
      If u still argue tat the Quran has changed where is all the evidence?? Like the bible’s evidence of it’s changes in history??
      People should start believing tat Islam is the true religion,the evidence,it is staggering,the Quran and science,the miracles recorded in the Quran still there today such as the line on the moon.

      • dear True Believer

        The bible has not been changed 100 times. That is a lie people tell, because they do not believe in the bible.

        Do not believe everything you hear. Ask for proof. There is no proof that the bible has been changed.

      • Lucifer was a beautiful Angel greatly loved by YaHuWah, before he decided that he, the created, wanted to take the place of the creator. I am quite sure that Lucifer knows a
        lot about science and the miracles that YaHuWah created..perhaps even enough to write a book.

      • You have wishful thinking that all humanity will turn to Islam. The only way to heaven is through the sacrifice of Jesus the Lamb Of God. Sorry to disappoint you. I do not know many people who want to change over to abuse of women and children. I know of very few who want only their eyes peeking out. I do not want my daughters and grand daughters living in a world where if they are raped they will be murdered for bringing shame to the family. Your Holy man the Ayatollah Khomeni said it is ok to thigh baby girls at the breast. He also was so worshipped that he asked his guest if he could have his 4 year old girl for the night. The poor baby cried and screamed all night. This was a report by a muslim. Islam is not loving and kind or free. I do not want it. King James bible has all we need for life now and the here-after.

      • Hi True Believer,

        It has been proved beyond all reasonable doubt, that the bible has not changed at all. The bible has been historically checked against different versions such as the Samaritan and Greek, as well as later texts, and apart from a few spealing errors nothing has changed. If there was going to be inconsistency of any kind in the bible, it would have been with the Samaritan and Hebrew texts, because these two races absolutely despised each other. In fact, it was down to their haterd of each other that they kept their own versions of the bible. Some versions of the bible differ in style of language, as well as convey different flavours of the original Hebrew/Greek words. It has to said that in parts, some of the origianl meaning of words have been lost in translation, but not to the detriment of the context or the overall meaning.

        The Quaran on the other hand, which you say is without any mistakes, was written with errors of origin. The Quaran’s errors are of an intrinsic nature within its message and its claims, which scholars have identified by applying a forensic approach to determin that Muhamed plagiarised the bible, and furthermore he mixed it with paganism (worship of sin the moon god), resulting in the creation a hybrid religion called Islam.

        The bible speaks nowhere of Muhamed or of Islam..at least not in these terms. The bible may well make reference to Islam in the form of riddles..such as with 666. I have to say personally, I find it hard to see the connection between Islam and 666 (chi xi stigma), without really stretching my imagination. However, I do believe that Islam is refered to as the beast empire which attempts to destroy Israel in the latter days, and is successful up to a point, but is destroyed itself by Christ. Stangely enough Israel itself is part of the beast system as the head that was mortally wounded, and then by a miracle revives in the form of Zionism. It seems that Zionism and Islam become strange bed-partners of the beast system, which is based on an unreliable peace treaty between them.

        The bible speaks volumes about the Lord Yeshua Christ, as the true messenger of Yahveh. There is absolute consistency in the bible from Old through to the New Testament, with both Testaments cross referencing the other in complete harmony.

        • Nope. If the beast is an empire it could only be the United States or Russia or China. Those are the biggest three empires today, and Muslims are politically repressed, ruled by secularist dictators or by pseudo-religious regimes allied with the United States such as the Saudi Arabian king.

          And the secularist Western elites represent the antichrist, mentioned by Muhammad (God bless him and give him peace) as al-maseeh ad-dajjaal or the “false messiah/christ”. Secularist white western elites claim to represent Christianity but are actually the biggest enemies of Christianity. Hence they are the collective antichrist. But God knows better.

        • Hedley, I agree with your take on things in general. It has to be said, although many on this particular site, seem to diregard this one fact: that although Islam is indeed a false religion, zionism as portrayed in its political form (as apposed to the true Zionism of scripture concerning Christ’s rule over the earth), is also a false religion. In fact, political zionism insults the very purpose of Yahweh, and His Will to establish His Heavenly Kingdom upon the earth, with its capital in Jerusalem, and therefore the zionists and its supporters have profaned something which is Holy, and made it into a cult.

          Furthermore, false gods come in many guises e.g. sun worshipers on the beech; endless hours spent in front of the tv; the worship of finance by the zionist banksters and their power to fund wars and State sponsored murders of tens, if not hundreds of millions of innocent women and children and military (goyim), throughout the course of history who die as a result of those wars, all carried out so that the zionist supremacists can have a land to call home, at everyones expense. So, it’s not just Islam and the moon-god, it’s also zionism and the goledn calf syndrome of finance that’s equally evil.

          • Déolée mais je ne siais pas ou vous avez été chercher que le coran était écrit avec ce chiffre il est dedans quand on parle de l’enfer le calcul du mot enfer ou satan est toujours le chiffre six rien à voir avec votre rapprochement .Votre Ignorance vous égare qu’ALLah vous guide Amin en plus vous entrainer en perdition d’autres personne et cela est très grave.

      • What you don’t understand is; the term Bible means library. The individual books of the New Testament, were separate manuscripts written by different individuals, each giving their own accounts and insights from their perspectives. They were not officially gathered together into one book for 300 yrs after Christ’s death and even the compilation took much prayer, time and debate between the Christian scholars from differing sects. There are the main books that everyone includes and some that some did include or exclude within their Bibles, depending on the beliefs in the validity of specific writings. Except for the Jewish Bible, There really has never been only one Christian Bible. The main criteria of inclusion of different manuscripts is that the writer should have been alive during the time that Jesus was alive. That is why the Gospel of Thomas etc. are not included because it is 3rd and 4th hand information and written at least 150 yrs. after Jesus the Christ ascended into heaven. Muhammad took most of his knowledge of Jesus from that gospel and that is another reason why the Jesus of the Quran is so off-base. The Quran does tell its followers to read and refer to the Bible, so I don’t understand why it goes against the Bible so very much and the Quran also goes against almost everything that Jesus said.

      • The Bible has never been one book. It has always been a collection of writings. Bible means library. It took a couple hundred years for scholars and priests to research, pray over, discuss each book for inclusion into a main collection that would be kept together in one binding. The different sects or beliefs in Christiandom at the time did agree on main inclusion for all Bibles, but also included or excluded different writings by different authors according to their belief of validity. But the point is that the writing support each other and follow the prophecies of the Old Testament which has not changed hardly at all for thousands of years. We have proof. We have thousands of ancient manuscripts to compare with. And if God didn’t like what they came up with and if the quran was inspired by God, then why didn’t he say to throw out the Bible that it was all wrong and that everything in the Quran is to replace the Bible? He didn’t. And the Quran does say to read the Bible and to refer to it. It also says that the Jews are to come back to the Holy Land and claim it once again.

    • Jesus would NOT send a baby rapist to show us the way. The Holy Ghost is what we need and the bible. Nothing more. Jesus is clean and Holy. Mohammed was not. He is in hell right now and why would we follow a prophet who would take us to hell.

    • The Gospel reference that you are speaking of, does not in any way say ahmed or muhammed. If you read the full chapter it goes onto discuss the one who will come after Himself is the Holy Spirit. This chapter actually names the Holy Spirit, not anyone else. Don’t believe the lies they tell you to get you to turn away from the fleshly manifestation of God who we know as Jesus, Yeshua, The Word.
      The Holy Spirit is the manifestation of God that can be among us and within us if we invite Him in and are obedient to Him. There are no 3 separate beings in the trinity. But God is so everpowerful that He can manifest Himself into forms to carry out His own plan. In the Beginning there was the Word. The Word was with God and the Word is God and came down from heaven. He was born of the virgin Mary by immaculate conception (no, God never had sex with Mary). She was from the line of David as well as Joseph, the man chosen to raise Him in the human form of Jesus. Muslims disagree that God can manifest Himself into different forms, but Christians believe in the completeness of God’s power. We believe that He can do what He wants in spite of the limitations that Muhammedans would try to place upon Him. How dare you all try to verbally put limits on His power!! Pretty blasphemous, I say. Read the Bible and learn the truth. I pray for you.

  27. Hi Sik

    I got the information from a Muslim site. I will keep your comments here, so that others can see that your disagree. The number in English is 666. Why would Muslim website put this information as 666 if it is incorrect? Maybe you should work to correct the muslim websites that say this, if they are wrong.

    The ancient names of gog and magog seem to come from what is now the Islamic world, although back then, they were different countries. In the future, we only think that gog and magog will be from same area, but this may not be true. Some think that it will be from Russia.

    I understand that the conflict between Muslims and Jews go back thousands of years, in their ancient cultures. Israel does want peace, and has give up land it won in battle to have peace. Muslims need to want peace also, and be willing to make sacrifices like the Israelis do. There is also an Arab lobby in the USA, and they get things they want also.

    blessings
    marianne

    • The people of Rashad Khalifa are not considered true Muslims and are an isolated sect. But you are so ignorant of Islam that you are not aware of this. How pathetic.

      To claim that Israel wants peace whereas Muslims want Israel and the United States to keep murdering them stems from that same ignorance as well.

      • When Israel (.01% of Muslim land-tiny!!) was re-established after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, other nations were newly established as well. Look up Iraq, Iran, Pakistan,Jordan etc.-all new as well. Only 12% of the land in Israel was owned by actual Muslims and they were offered full citizenship with full rights and keep their homes and land if they wanted to be citizens under an Israeli flag. There was only about 100,000 or so. Many did stay and prosper and live in peace. Many chose anarchy, were supposed to be offered citizenship in newly formed Jordan, but they chose to stay and cause harm to their new nation and to themselves. They were, of course, kept away from peaceful citizens and those that refused to leave peacefully and establish themselves elsewhere, had to stay in a camp. They were always plotting against Israel and it’s peacefull citizens.The U.N. is the group that screwed up, enabling them and calling the place that they were in the “Palestinian Authority”. There was no “war” until the people living within the Palestinian authority started one. Israel has ALWAYS bent over backwards and forwards giving away more and more land until they have less than half of what they were supposed to have in the international agreement.
        Everytime, Muslims fire upon Israel, they aim away from military sites and purposely aim for cities and neighborhoods, and in typical Muslim fashion fire at Israel from behind their own children, hospitals, mosques, schools, neighborhoods and while Israel is extremely careful to try to avoid civilian casualties, does end up chasing the trail of rockets back to where they were fired from. Muslims always do this evern when purpetually fighting each other. They have little respect for human life. Try to study more unbiased information sometime, you might learn a thing or two. BTW, the quran even states that the Jews are supposed to come back to Israel according to the will of Allah, so also please read your own books as well. We do.

    • I live in a Muslim society, am quite a knowledgeable Muslim, and I have heard of the number 666 only as part of Christian beliefs. That we Muslims ascribe any significance to number 666 is pure garbage. God certainly does not love those who speak out of ignorance total falsehoods and hence tell lies. Hence God does not love you. He does not love ignorant liars.

      • As I said above, all your references come from websites of the “nineteen-ists” who follow Rashad Khalifa, and they are an isolated miniscule sect. For the first time I hear that they ascribe importance to the number 666, but apart from them no Muslim ascribes any importance to that number. If you don’t repent and apologize for writing this totally incorrect post in which you select a miniscule sect at your whim and project its beliefs to all Muslims in order to demean Muslims, then know that God sees and hears your fraudulent and deceitful actions and will hold you on the Judgement Day responsible for these crimes. Don’t underestimate God. He is real. His judgement is real. So stop making deceitful assertions and earning his punishment.

        • hello Adem

          I posted this with the right intentions. To this Rashad Khalifa, it seems true. I thought it was just interesting information. It was not meant to start trouble.

          If you look enough at my site, you will also see that I can be critical of Christianity, in the modern form it is in today. It has strayed from the original teachings of Jesus, and does not represent what he taught, and what his gospel was to the world.

          So I am just giving a critical look at all religions, especially the parts that may not represent the original teachings.

          It is good to expose these things, so people will be aware, and avoid what is false.

          I do not follow Islam, but Christianity, and only in the original biblical form. I have friends who are Muslim, and I work with them some on charity issues, so I am open to their comments and complaints.

          on each page I have, I post information. People are welcome to argue about it and give reasons why it is not true. Readers will see both what is posted and the arguments about it.

          the idea here is to debate issues, to find truth, and to detect what is false.

          So your comments stay here, and people will read your response to what is written, and it will help them think, and make up their own minds.

          Thank you for giving your views.

  28. No we should not be working to correct these sites. There are always fringe elements out there and taking them seriously is giving them more importance then deserved. However, you should do more research before posting views. If I find anything about anyone/anything on the net, it is my responsibility to be thorough before I represent these views, so the responsibility lies squarely on your shoulders.

    As for Jews, the christians throughout the ages hated and persecuted them even to the extent of literature. Shakespeare and Charles Dickens exhibit that in their work as well as how they were marginalized and even targeted over the centuries. We all know how the Jews used the romans to kill Jesus. They were cursed in the time of Moses (PBUH) for a reason.

    It was really the time of 600 BC when Jews were subjected to Babylonian tyranny that the pharisees (70 Jewish Elders) came up with Tamrud which is the book followed by Isreali’s, which legalizes that all non-jews are inferior to jews, that a jew can have sex with a 3 year old, any property dispute between a jew and a non-jew has to be resolved in the favor of Jew since they have right over all property and other outrageous things. The oldest Jewish text, the Jewish Encyclopedia as well as Jesus himself clearly distinguishes and denounces this heretic tradition. Those who live by the Tamrud really are not jews or the people of Moses. This is how organized religious authority can completely disfigure the original religion and Prophet. There is a huge different between these Zionists and the Jews of Moses.

    “”The Whole History of Judaism was reconstructed from the Pharisaic point of view, …. Pharisiasm shaped the character of Judaism and the life and thought of the Jew for all of the future.””- Taken directly from the Jewish Encyclopedia “Pharisees”

    I think some basic research is badly needed. Just read or do research on Tamrud etc. There are no “Peaceful Jews” and the Zionists among the Christians are only propagating ignorance. Do you think the modern Zionist face of Pharisiac Judaism is actually based on Moses’s Teachings???? These 70 Pharisees claimed that when they were forbidden to go on the mount that Moses went to and got his revelation, they were in fact given revelations much more profound then were given to Moses. Maybe the christians can also eliminate Jesus since he denounced this heretic tradition in Judaism, so that the Zionists in christianity can also be free of their Prophet and teachings to pursue their own twisted agenda and spread ignorance among simple, god fearing christians and jews.

    • This is a really misguided post –

      Have you heard of the discovery of the Amulets of Hinnom?
      In 1979, Israeli archaeologists discovered these amulets or tiny scrolls in the valley of Hinnom. Working with NASA, they were definitively dated to just before Babylonian exile. Know what they had on them? The TRUE holy and ineffable name of God – YHVH. And a passage from the book of Numbers. Whats that mean? That they were absolutely monotheistic before Babylonian captivity – you should know better, even the atheists know this now and have abandoned this lie. Clearly and conclusively, the age-old argument that Jewish monotheism arose out of Babylonian captivity by stealing ideas from Zoroastrian priests is DISPROVED.

      Do you study? I feel sorry for good people that are so thoroughly deceived by the deception of the so-called “prophet” Mohammad. Bottom line is this: Does one sincerely believe that the Holy God of the Universe would set down a holy document that could in any way be interpreted as encouraging rape and murder? Just to confirm whats been said earlier, our Bible is amazingly close to the original manuscripts – it is a direct lie to say otherwise, for many scholars have determined this. Check out reasonablefaith.org – should quiet any intellectual doubts about Christianity. Even in the OT, God was merciful and loving, and loved those men who were good and righteous to one another. With the revelation of Jesus Christ, all doubt it erased and the world is held accountable. Jesus has called us all to complete mercy and love, as our FATHER IN HEAVEN loves us.

      Say what you want – but the ONLY group of people on the planet right now that are the source of constant war are Islamic extremists. Israel DOES want peace – they have the right to exist! Its beyond discussion at this point. Iran claims an “inalienable right to possess enriched uranium” , but deny Israel the right to exist? Is that representative of a Holy God who is above the world? Or rather, is it representative of small men who want to use religion to justify endless murder and hate on account of a misplaced 60 year old vendetta? The Israeli people owned that land thousands of years ago; the argument that they “stole” it, or that it “first” belonged to Palestinians is ridiculous. In terms of first ownership, its theirs. In terms of the rules of war – that the conqueror keeps the land – , its theirs. Muslims sure had no problem with that, secular or not, during the reign of the Ottoman empire.

  29. The “Isreali Lobby” and its influence is nothing compared to the “Arab Lobby” (which does not represent all Muslims). This fact can be borne out with some basic research as well.

    • The Israeli lobby doesn’t need a lobby as it has many and varied entities and institutions to lobby on their behalf. In fact, those institutions don’t need to even lobby because they are controlled by the zionist elite who influence international finance; economics; international law; the UN; the World Trade Organisation; The Council for Foreign Relations; the Papacy and its finances; Governments; Security Services i.e. CIA; MI6/MI5; FSB; Mossad; and others who all constitute one mighty mother of a beast… or rather heart of the beast. Both the Catholic and Islamic apostate religions are but the children of its mother harlot zionist/Israeli enterprise (Rev 17), the Israel/Jerusalem that now is (Gal 4:25). Jesus is coming to remove the Jerusalem/Israel that now is..not one stone shall be left on another (Math 24: 1-2). Natural Israel is the fig tree that was cursed, and has been shooting forth its leaves once again..it is the head that was mortally wounded and has revived.

      Whilst it is God’s intension to save a very small remnant of natural Israel, by bringing them into a covenant relationship with Christ, most of them will continue to defy the warnings and refuse to return to the faith of their father Abraham, and are going to be destroyed for their persistent harlotry and unbelief represented by Hagar. Even natural Israel can only claim to be Jews by having the faith of Abraham. Before Abraham was Jesus said I am, before Abraham there wasn’t anything such thing as a Jew, except for Jesus who was the true Israel..the Prince of El. It was upon such a belief in the one who was before Abraham, and who was to come after that Jesus says that we are not Jews or Israel based upon bloodline, but rather we are truly Israel if we are Jews because of faith in Christ. NATURAL ISAREL has done nothing but to bring the good name of God, and his Son the true Israel, and their teachings into disrepute. Hence Israel serves as a warning to us not to go their ways of idolatory; usury; lies; murdering; and unbelief etc etc. Anyone who patronises natural Israel is a beast worshiper..along with those who patronise her daughters i.e. Apostate Christendom and Islam who were both born due to Israel’s disobedienc to bring the nations, and their beliefs into subjection to God!

      • you do not know the truth.

        you have been deceived. God promised to bring his jews back into Israel, and to protect them so that they would never be driven from there again.

        you have a lot of hate and bigotry. I suggest you repent, before you damn yourself to hell.

  30. The romans, the christians, the babylonians, all of europe and yes muslims have had a long standing conflicts

  31. Now I am going to state something I don’t want to but that should make u do more research. The Talmud states that “Mary (the Virgin Mother) was a harlot and that Jesus (PBUH) was a bastard”. May Allah forgive me for repeating this but I am outraged by your ignorance and allegiance to a people who proclaim this of your prophet. What shame.

  32. Hi Sik

    As you say, a fringe element does not represent the entire group. If you actually took time to meet the average Jew, you would find them much different than what you have been taught. The Jews I know are not as you describe. I think it is time for understanding and not contempt. This way peace will come.

    blessings
    marianne

  33. Let’s see, Muslims have declared war on Israel five times, and lost each time. Now, they cry. Perhaps, the Muslims should spend their money on roads, and schools, not weapons, and ammo.

    In all the Islamic countries, why have they not found room, and helped their fellow Mulsims that Israel keeps at arms distance?

    Christ stated they will not believe in him who comes in G-d’s name, but they will believe in a man who comes in his own name. Is that Mohamed Sik Malik?

    Mohamed enjoyed murder, and rape. Yet, you follow him Sik Malik. Strange.

  34. First of all I have lived in the USA and have many jew and christian friends and truly believe that the average jew or christian is as peace loving and god fearing as the average muslim but that should distract us from the fact that Zionist elements in USA Government and Israel are hell bent on waging unjust wars and victimization of Muslim around the globe, and they have conned the average Christian and Jew into supporting these wars. 70% of the people in USA now think that they were lied to and manipulated into an illegal war on Iraq. Making peace with Zionists is out of the question.

    As for what you said about Mohammad (PBUH) is purely slander without any proof but then who can stop someone from saying such things. These kind of ignorant filth surely shows how much peace and tolerance is being promoted here. Let’s see marianne respond to “Leatherneck” : )

    Christ mentioned the coming of “Ahmad” or “Munahma” in Syriac pronunciation, and told his followers that he will reveal the truth about “Allah” (Jesus used the world Allah for God by admission of christian scholars). But I guess thats no problem, you can just twist and make Jesus say whatever you want. I am sorry that Jesus cant support your bullshit. Maybe you can worship satan he might be more amenable to your rhetoric.

    Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world : )

    These prophets, Moses, then Jesus and finally Mohammad share a strong spiritual bond and knew of each others coming and advised their people accordingly but the followers have vested interest because Religion is a means of earning and influence for some of us and we mislead the others.

    • Let me put my neck on the line for your bit of lies from those who have translated names and stories from some 100 years before the birth of Yeshua from the talmud in fact tand claim these stories to be what they are not though they have been disputed over eons. Only the anti-semetic will not look it up and find out the truth.

      There are four main passages in the Talmud that are alleged by some to discuss the story of Jesus’ life and death. A large number of historians and talmudists have addressed these issues and have concluded that either none of these passages refer to Jesus or that they refer to a proto-Jesus, whose life was later obfuscated by the theologically motivated rewriting of history.

      It is clear that there is no consensus whether Jesus is mentioned at all in the Talmud. Most of the supposed “blasphemies” of Jesus and Mary in the Talmud do not refer to them at all. However, there can be no denying, and no rabbi would deny this, that the authors of the Talmud did not believe in Jesus’ messiahship or his divinity. If you are looking for Christian fellowship then Jewish literature is not the place to look. However, there is no basis at all to state unequivocably that the Talmud calls Jesus a bastard or that Mary was a prostitute who had sex with many men.

      The passages Malik is referring to clearly do not refer to Jesus.

      But, Malik is clearly making an anti-semetic attack to introduce his further lie on the pedophile Muhammed and killer of people who did not accept his arrogant claims of prophet.

      Your claims of his mention in Hebrew texts and Greek texts are arrogant an uneducated which is normal per muslim revisionism and pointing out this kind of lieing that muslims do have nothing to do with kindness or Christian morals unless it is kindness in pointing out the madness that muslims have fallen into of embracing the lies perpetrated by a killer and pedophile and by muslims laying claim to the Hebrew prophets when the mad Muhammed was an

      GENDER: Masculine

      USAGE: Arabic

      OTHER SCRIPTS: محمّد (Arabic)

      PRONOUNCED: moo-HAHM-mahd [key]

      Meaning & History

      Means “praiseworthy”, derived from Arabic حمد (hamid) “to praise”. This was the name of the prophet who founded the Islamic religion in the 7th century. Since his time, it has been very popular in the Muslim word.
      The name was borne by six sultans of the Ottoman Empire (though their names are usually given in the Turkish spelling Mehmet). Another famous bearer was Muhammad ibn Musa al-Khwarizmi, a 9th-century Persian mathematician and scientist who devised algebra.

      Muhammad was born into the trading society of Mecca in 570. He was a part of one of the dominant tribes, the Qu’raish…he was a common pedophile and murderer with an arrogant pride for someone who was jealous of those around him and found it easy to take other mens wives.

      He can make no claim to Old or New Testament Prophecies or scriptures because his name is never mentioned in scripture except where muslims have re-written scriptures to match their claims.

      All those who re-write the scriptures to make their claims clearly have not read all the bible for Revelation 22 is very clear when it says that any that do such evil shall have their names taken out of the Book of Life.

      A Warning

      Revelation 22: 18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

  35. Mohammad is mentioned in the original hebrew versions of the Bible but it has been translated as “The Praised One” which is the meaning of Mohammad or Ahmad, that is, the Praised One.

  36. Hi Sik

    I searched the bible text and did not find “the Praised One.” That term does not exist. In the bible, the only ones who are praised it the Father God-Yahweh in heaven, and Jesus.

    The coming one that Jesus referred to was the Holy Spirit, who came 50 days after the resurrection on Pentecost.

    If you look in the book of John, it says in 3 consecutive chapters that it is the Holy Spirit (Holy Ghost) that they are expecting, not a man. The Holy Ghost will give them power, and teach them about the Father in heaven, and help them understand better the wisdom of Jesus.

    Jhn 14:26 But the Comforter, [which is] the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

    Jhn 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

    Jhn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

    Here are the entire chapters, so you can see the verses in context:

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=14&v=26&t=KJV#26

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=15&v=26&t=KJV#26

    http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jhn&c=16&v=7&t=KJV#7

    Peter relates in Acts 1 that Jesus had commanded them to stay in Jerusalem until the holy spirit, who is the comforter, came, so that they would have power given to them from the Father to do God’s work on earth:

    Act 1:4 And, being assembled together with [them], commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, [saith he], ye have heard of me.

    Act 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

    Since the followers of Jesus could not leave Jerusalem until the Comforter came, or minister to others, it is obvious that the Comforter they were waiting for would have to come in their lifetime.

    They could not “wait in Jerusalem” for 500 years, waiting for a man to show up. They would all be dead by then. So, think about this.

    Notice they are waiting for “the Comforter,” (the Holy Ghost). It does not say “the Praised One.”

    blessings
    marianne

  37. In a correct history book, Mohamed married a girl of six, and raped her at nine. Is child sex OK with you Sik Malik? How about the slaves Mohamed raped?

    Did Mohamed Murder? Yes. Quite a bit Sik Malik.

    BTW, Christianity is the fastest growing religion, not moon god worship of allah.

    You Mulims wage war with your half brothers, because you are insane with hate. Satan is also full of hate, and enjoys misleading those who follow Islam.

  38. Bombay death toll rises as moon god worshipers murder in the name of allah.

    ROPMA

  39. Hi Leatherneck

    I sense you might like to be over there, settling the issue once and for all.

    marianne

  40. No thank you. India is a third world cess pool. Kind of what America is getting to be. I want to be here when the Muslims go ape with their AK’s.

    Peace out.

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  42. The info you have there is all wrong. First, you’re refering to the bible written in greek about 100 years after Jesus. Therefore, this bible is not the word of God.
    Secondly, the word in the gold image is not “bismillah”. Is is Allah (or Elaw in aramaic) which means God. Muslims call the father (in trinity) as Allah. Now how could the Quran be the work of Satan when in the heart of the Quran there is a whole chapter called Marie (mother of Jesus). The Quran narrates the story of Jesus and God asks us to believe in him and his book.

    • Here is an interesting fact about “Marie” in the Koran. According to Mohammed, the mother of Jesus was the sister of Moses! He confused “Miriam” and “Mary” and thought they were the same person. He also said that Moses was friends with Noah, supposedly after the flood (unless Moses was a stowaway). This collapses the biblical timeline by almost 4000 years.
      I would not trust anything that Mohammed has to say about the mother of Jesus.

  43. HI Jenny,

    I had checked with someone who understands Arabic before I wrote this. I was trying to be accurate. They had confirmed the name of Allah and the crossed swords as representing Islam.

    If the bible is not the word of God, then neither is the Quran, because that is all the Quran had to copy from.

    It is also possible for any book to be only partly correct, and then have incorrect passages. The Quran may have sections about Mary, but it denies who Jesus really was. This information was given by Jesus to his witnesses while he was here. It has been distorted over time, NOT by the bible, which is true, but by incorrect interpretations of what is written. I have other sections on clarifying this.

    Here is a summary page:

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/jesus-who-is-he/

    Maybe this will help. Thank you and many blessings

    marianne

  44. Allah is the name of the moon god Mohamed’s family worshiped. Allah Akbar means Allah is greater than all others. Meaning there were many other pagan gods at the time of Mohamed.

    The Jews knew this, and called BS on Mohamed. Mohamed, in his love, murdered all the Jews who would not convert to worshiping a pagan god.

    The Koran is not the word of G-d, but the writings of what Mohamed said, and what a spirit told Mohamed. In the Koran Christ did not die, and rose from the dead for the sins of all humans. What Christ is the Koran talking about?

  45. Hi Leatherneck,

    The Quran definitely has a different version of Christ than the Bible does. There is no way to accept both as truth.

    The Bible has proven itself as true. The real Christ is found there. Also, as HE has revealed Himself through the ages to mankind, he has proven he is everything the bible says he is.

    blessings
    marianne

  46. I am not too suprised. It’s amazing. Satan truely is a liar.

    • Kwazy
      Not only a liar but “the father of THE lie”. That lie was told at the onset to Eve. “you will not die”! That lie has spread to encompass all manmade religions. ie Immortality of the soul in Christendom, tranmigation of the soul in Eastern disciplines, and is reflected in promises of Heaven to all true believers.
      1 John 5:19 “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one”.

      • That doesn’t really make sense – Jesus condemns what is not of Him; what is not true and what is evil. Through Christ, God promises eternal life, many times – so it doesn’t make sense for you to say the lie is eternal life and Christendom is lying, when Christ affirmed there was eternal life in Him, JUST as He called Satan the father of lies.

        If you’re going to use one verse of the Bible to shine light, know that the Bible is whole and complete: each one is tied to and supported by the whole thing. Plus its common logic: how can you apply the rule of a system without asserting authority to that system? And if, even temporarily, you acknowledge the authority of that system, you can’t apply its authority against its axioms because you either admit it doesn’t have authority (meaning the rule you applied is void because the system it belongs to is broken) or the rule is right and voids the axiom (meaning the authority of the rule is compromised and can’t be applied in the first place).
        The axiom – God asserts eternal life through Christ.
        The rule (you have fallaciously applied) – “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” and “…the father of lies”.
        Your conclusion – eternal life is a lie.
        How can the axiom which gives the rule authority be invalidated by the rule? Doesn’t work. Have to hold it accountable to external fundamental laws – beautiful thing, God is God lol. Nothing can invalidate the system of the Bible because God is THE foundation.

  47. Hi Kwazy,

    I agree. One of the most amazing lies that Islam (Allah) teaches is that Jesus will come back and punish or kill all the Christians are unbelievers. Now why would he kill his own followers? It is just amazing what people believe.

    blessings
    marianne

    • Hey ,
      Jesus Will Not Come To Kill Christians , But To Kill Beast , Beast is One-Eyed Also Mention In Saying Of Prophet Muhammad (S.a.w.w), Also Prophecy In Your Own Scripture, Ref: Zachariah 11:17 , Also See Links Below About Moon God E.T.c
      See Also:
      “Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (From the KJV Bible, Matthew 21:43)”

      Nation Are We Muslims , Believe Or Not , Its True , See (Forth The Fruits Thereof )Who Are Than Muslims 90% Muslim Don’t Eat Or Drink Or Do What is Forbidden On Us , Unlike Christian Eat And Drink, Like Pork, Wine, .

      Muhammad In Bible 1:

      http://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah.htm

      Muhammad In Bible 2:

      http://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

      Allah is Not Moon God:

      http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_god.htm

      • The Kingdom of God was never mohammeds or muslims but what you have shall indeed be taken from you for you have done great evil in the sight of God and men Ali…all Islam has done great evil in hating your neighbors and slaughtering them and all for the 72 eternal and absurd virgins and a hell full of pubescent boys you have coveted.

        You have woven a net of lies with the liar Muhammed and with that net you are ensnared for you are numbered with the Beast!

    • the christians are so “smart” that they think on a trinity…
      you don’t know even who is the God because for you belive three in one…
      such a crazy thing!!!
      the scientists tried to find something wrong in Qur’an basing on it,when in Qur’an says that the ants can be break…just then after some experiments they saw that a part of their body has steel and then they can be broken…
      ALL-LLAH IS THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  50. ALL REAL Christians stand with Israel. Thats just the way it is. Israel is smaller then N.J. and it is surrounded by 57 Arab states that want their death. I am for Israel, 100%. I am NOT a mob mentality crazy.

  51. 666 or 6 are unlucky numbers somehow the number ’13’ and ‘4’ do so too. They are unlucky numbers that somehow people who are constructing a building plan, they possibly will leave the forth floor blank and rooms are removed or usually people will just build up to 12 floors.

  52. The whole 666 thing can be twisted to point to lots of people. The important thing is that it represents an anti-Christ view.

    Muhammad was anti-Christ. Anti-Christ is anyone who is against Jesus’ teachings and claims (anti simply means “against”).

    Many Christians know little about islam’s teachings about Jesus (Isa). They say Jesus is the Messiah but seem to not understand what that means. They deny Jesus’ death on the cross (they say it was Judas on the cross) and Jesus’ victory over death and sin. They deny his teachings, like “love your enemies, do good to those who hate you” as well as his claim to be God’s Son. Did you know they also believe that Jesus died when he was 120 or 125 years old?

    I agree we have to love the Muslims and pray that they would read the Bible for themselves to see that their version of Jesus as “prophet” misses the whole point of Jesus’ mission on earth-thee gift of eternal life, the forgiveness of their sins.

  53. iranaeus provided reasonable evidence that “the number of the beast” was actually transcribed wrong and was originally 616.

    all of that turning the number on it’s side stuff is nonsense, this seems like a lame attempt to associate islam with evil by dubious means.

    there is no “real” islam just as there is no “real christianity”. lots of people use those words as a label for their practices and beliefs, which vary massively from person to person.

    p.s. i would ask you to reply to my post on devine vs. natural dreams but there isn’t one. please read it and take it to heart.

    • zarathustra

      The Muslims recognize and use this number themselves, which is a confirmation.

      Curious – if you were given a choice between choosing Islam, and praying to Allah, and getting your head cut off, which would you choose?

  54. if i was given the choice between sitting through a church service with boring, brainless dullards like you prattling away about inconsequential drivel- or cutting my own head off. the latter would seem attractive.

  55. So Marianne, you’re a Zionist..typical why do i even bother

  56. Hmmm … And I always thought 666 was actually 999 upside down! Duh!

    • Your post is so cute!!

      • It’s true, I tell ya! Really: “666 = Much ado ’bout nutzing!” And I’ve proved it more than just once about other things as well! Like f’rinstance, when I’m righteously plastered (that’s an euphemism for “being drunk”!), and belly up on the barroom floor, I realize it’s really an upside down world! And my date’s wearing Fredericks of Hollywood! Hmmm! Something ‘bout that ol’ adage, “IN VINO VERITAS”: There’s Truth in Booze! 98% Proof! Staring at me in da face! Mercy!

        Maybe if we all got drunk, we’d quit bickering ’bout Religion and move on to something more worthwhile …. like golf!

  57. Its 786 not 666.

    666 has no value whatsoever in Islam.

    Here is a REAL Muslim website with an explanation.

    http://www.readingislam.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE&cid=1149429767587

  58. Dear Marianne,
    Meanwhile, everyone is jumping down each others throat, Lucifer has achieved what he set out to do! Create a diversion and you can take everyone’s attention off the real facts. The “Beast” of Revelation Chapter 13, is a World encompassing Power which will issue a 6/6/6 number for EVERY human being on earth. If we ALL have a number 666, to buy or sell (Verse 17) how would 6 Billion people be able to tell one apart from another? Just like a Telephone number, we will have 6 digits/6 digits/6 digits. As it says in the KJV – “…Count the number” (…of Digits?) It is the number of a man [human as opposed to Products of the Universal Products Code of - 1 Digit/6 Digit/6 Digit or 166]
    I don’t know about you, but the ONLY World Encompassing Power on earth today, is the United Nations. It is NOT MUSLIM, neither is it Christian! [In spite of its Quote from Isaiah 2:4] (We must look at Joel 3:10, which tells of the real End Time situation) What many don’t know, is that the U.N. is made up of only Communist Party members in the Security Council. This can be verified by reading a book written by G. Edward Griffin called “The Fearful Master”-(a second look at the United Nations). It is Backed up by the “G7″ (7-heads) and 10-Horns (10 World Trade Centers) as Depicted on the FIRST Digit of the 1/6/6 Product Code …being a digit Zero (0) to Nine (9) … You can verify this by looking at the Bar Code of USA/Canada=(0) China/Australia/Malaysia and New Zealand=(9) [Beast with 7 Heads/10 Horns is given in Rev.12:3 and Rev.13:1.] Chapter 12 shows Satan-led U.N. with Sovereignty (Crowns) on “G7″, but when it gets to RULE the World it gets the World Trade Organization’s Backing and its Sovereignty comes from the 10 World Trade Centers.[Rev.17:12, 13] This is picture is given as the 10 crowns on the 10 Horns in Rev.13:1. The “Beast” [Power] that has the deadly wound as mentioned in Rev.13:3,12,14. is the World Trade Center in N.Y. which on 9/11 was demolished, but will be resurrected to contain the “2-Horned Beast” [Power] of Rev.13:11 which is the IMF & World Bank. …Both of which are connected with the U.N.
    By the way, The G. Edward Griffin book is mentioned on the Internet, just “Google” and you will find it. For the Power [head] that was “Wounded” Revelation Chapter 18 gives you an account of Merchants [Traders] standing afar off [v.10] where in a SINGLE hour it was demolished!

  59. Hi Marianne,
    There are a few problems I have had with the change of terminology in Prophecy. Daniel chapter 7 and Revelation 13 is the other.
    Daniel 7:5. And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and [it had] THREE RIBS in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.
    Here we see Russia after WW2 becoming the USSR with 3 ETHNIC groups in its might. These are Yugoslavia – Serb, Croat, and Bosnian groups. [WW1 was started in Sarajevo - Austrian crown Prince & his Wife were gunned down by Gavrillo Pincip.]
    At the dismantling of the USSR, fighting broke out ~1991 in Yugoslavia again! These RIBS become HORNS.
    Dan. 7:8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were THREE of the FIRST HORNS plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn [were] eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.
    20. And of the ten horns that [were] in his head, and [of] the other which came up, and before whom THREE FELL; even [of] that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look [was] more stout than his fellows.
    24. And the ten HORNS out of this kingdom [are] ten kings [that] shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue THREE kings.
    I have a little problem with these THREE Ribs/Horns/Kings as the THREE could be the LION, the BEAR, and LEOPARD if verses 4,5&6.
    Lion = GerMANy – Stands on 2 FEET (East & West) – Lion is its Mascot, In WW2 Luftwaffe (Eagle’s wings) were plucked off.
    Leopard [Britain] has 4 HEADS [England Ireland, Scotland & Wales] Have access to 4 Air-forces [RAF, RAAF, Royal Canadian A.F, & RNZAF] Dominion is the British Commonwealth of Nations.

    Revelation 13:3. And I saw one of his HEADS as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
    HEAD – Wounded to Death.
    12. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first BEAST, whose deadly wound was healed.
    BEAST – Wound is Healed.
    14. And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by [the means of] those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the BEAST, which had the WOUND by a sword, and did live.
    BEAST had Wound by a Sword.
    Here we have a HEAD – BEAST …WOUNDED. So it appears that a HEAD is basically the SAME as a BEAST.
    The CROWN is Definitely SOVEREIGNTY.
    Rev.13:1. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns TEN CROWNS, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
    Rev.17:12. And the TEN HORNS which thou sawest are ten KINGS, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power AS kings one hour with the beast.
    13. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
    TEN World Trade Centers receive Sovereign Power where before, the 7 HEADS [G7] had Sovereign Power.
    Russia turns the G7 into the G8.
    Rev.17:11. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the EIGHTH, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

  60. The Book of Revelation was given to John “in signs”. Meaning symbolic vision was employed. Numbers throughout the bible are sometimes literal and sometimes symbolic. When things are said three times it’s for emphasis ie Holy, Holy, Holy Jehovah is Holy in the superlative. The number 6 is one number shy of 7 which indicates perfection in a spiritual sense. 666 an inferior number related to men and men’s governance stated 3X “number of a beast (you’d only have to read The Book of Daniel to see beasts represent human governments and the number of mankind who fell from perfection.

    • Hi Angela

      Good point. The unseen 666 is much more powerful than any physical sign. It is the inferior, imperfect, rule of godless man that is the danger behind what we see.

  61. Hi Angela,
    I agree with you in the fact that many of the visions John were given are Symbolic, but we also have factual references, such as those who are faithful to their allegiance to God, are also beheaded in the time of tribulation – Rev.20:4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    We see these have not received this “mark,” so this mark must have to be factual. Since the 1980s we have grown to accept the fact that all PRODUCTS are assigned a BAR CODE. This code comes in several formats.
    1234//1234 & 12345//12345 & 1//123456//123456
    The last example is the most common, with the FIRST digit denoting the World Trade Center digit assigned to that product.
    Look in your grocery shelves, you will find that most items which are manufactured in the USA have a ZERO (0) as the FIRST digit,
    eg. (0)//123456//123456 – whereas China, Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand have nine (9) as first digit –
    eg (9)//123456//123456 …You can see that (0) to (9) is 10.
    The World Trade Organization has the World divided into 10 regions of trade. Each region has its TRADE Center, just like the one that was demolished on 9/11/2001. The World Trade ORGANIZATION in Geneva, took over the GATT (General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade) in December 1993.
    In my country, they place a sub-cutaneous microchip in animals, why wouldn’t they be able to do that to human beings?
    As we are not products from the assembly line, we would need to have a different code number than the Product Code of (1)/6/6 – but instead have a 6/6/6 code [ie. 123456/123456/123456]
    I do not dismiss the fact that when things are said three times, that it is for emphasis, but we must not get things mixed up when it is detrimental to our eternal future, if we do not RECOGNIZE an important event that will exclude us from heaven if we accept that “mark.”

    • Hi Olaf,

      From what you are saying, we have already accepted the mark, if we are using anything with a bar code on it?

    • Olaf
      I admit bar Codes used in our secular world may be irksome to some but are non-threatening. As a student of Gods’ Word though, I see a more serious threat in being influenced or to be marked, in either attitude or action, as being in servitude to those who refuse to acknowledge the supreme sovereignty of the true God, Jehovah.

      Long have animals and even slaves been branded with a mark as an indication of ownership. These marks were always placed on humans in conspicuous parts of the body such as the forehead (and hand). Worshipers of false gods identified themselves by having the mark of their diety on their foreheads. However, under Isreal was prohibited disfiguring with tattoo marks. This served to counteract any idolatrous practices and taught due regard for God’s creation.

      The fiurative use of a mark in Ezediel’s vision by the man with an ‘inkhorn’ showed these were servants belonging to Jehovah and worthy of preservation at the time for execution of judgement by God. The figurative mark on the forehead testified to that! In John’s vision persons receiving the mark of the wild beast on forehead or hand were in line for destruction. That mark on the forehead publicaly identified them as worshipers of the wild beast and therefore as slaves to it. On the hand would signify active support of the wild beast, the hand being used to accomplish work.

  62. Hi Marianne,
    I am sure you know what the answer to that question is!
    The criteria for GETTING that mark is the “Worshiping” aspect.
    Rev.20:4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not WORSHIPED the beast, neither his image, neither had RECEIVED [his] mark upon THEIR FOREHEADS, or in THEIR HANDS; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
    Rev.14:11. And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who WORSHIP the beast and his image, and whosoever RECEIVETH the mark of his name.
    Rev.13:15. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not WORSHIP the image of the beast should be killed.
    Rev.13:4. And they worshipped the DRAGON which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the BEAST, saying, Who [is] like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
    …So you see, it is the WORSHIPING aspect that this WHOLE rebellion on the planet is all about. SATAN (Dragon) wants to be GOD. I can quote the passages, but that will be unnecessary to prove. It was not so much the disobedience to God’s order, but it was the BELIEVING of Satan’s word as AUTHORITY over that of our Creator. In so doing, EVE chose SATAN as her FATHER and god.

    • Hi Olaf,

      Thanks for the clarification. We are all stuck with bar codes now. I recently had my passport renewed, and they automatically put a chip in the book cover.

      I never plan to worship anyone but YHVH.

      ** May I use your answer in a post?

  63. Marianne, I don’t mind what you do with whatever I submit. I am only happy to know that there is someone able to spread the truth and shine their “light” amongst all the confusion [Babylon]

  64. Sometimes, one must look in the mirror and see the marks on one’s face. What a mystery it is. The ideas in one’s head. The writing is much more ancient. Angelic perhaps. We are reaching a time of a new beginning. A new world order. Perhaps you will live to witness this?

  65. You have to understand your real place. What you call humankind is nothing more than a slightly advanced life form living on an insignificant planet in the outer reaches of a galaxy you call the Milkyway. You got to where you are by evolution triggered by cosmic rays and natural radiation. Your internal hard program is what drives you and motivates. The prime directive is to create offspring. That is why sex feels so good. Humans are like a virus that needs room to expand. Until you realize your true purpose, you will never understand yourself.

  66. Hi Marianne, It saddens me to think about all the people who will perish because of lack of knowledge, or lack of the ability to discern truth from lies. The bottom line is, we’ll find out in the end that the word DOES NOT come back void. The devil is basking in the glow of the discourse and ignorance we have for beliefs that are different from our own, because he is not an enemy of religion. He loves to watch us bicker over his lies, because he can be free to run to and fro creating havoc, to divert our attention from Jesus’ return. Baptist, Catholic, Muslim, Buddhist, etc., I am a follower of Jesus Christ and the word says that EVERY knee shall bow, and EVERY tongue shall confess that He is Lord. While we’re busy disputing over the inconsequential discrepancies of “religion”, we miss the Truth. Now to some, truth is relative, but Truth with a capital T is non-negotiable. Did Buddha die and come back to life, Mohammed, Confuscious, Ghandi, the leader of scientology…no brainer, the only one who defeated death was Jesus Christ!!! Through his sacrifice we are made right with Jehovah God. Let’s not wait until we see Him face to face to make our decision on what to believe, because then it will be too late to find out what you thought was Truth, was really just truth.

    • Hi Q

      I agree. My biggest concern is the unsaved. I really pray that they find out who Jesus is,accept him, and cling to him in the days ahead.

    • What an absolutely lovely and true statement. Q, you have gotten down to the grit of this, You are correct, it is those that worship Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. All the bickering serves no purpose but to divide and confuse and yes, Satan revels in our disputes. I do not and never will worship any but the one true God.
      Kelley

  67. Hello again Marianne, as you have already probably determined, I am here now. Just some clues:

    http://www.ebooksx.com/The-Sirius-Mystery_249392.html

    When I was young and reappeared, they tried to take me away many times. I outsmarted them. I learned how to avoid detection. Perhaps, not forever. My previous house in Samarra has been destroyed by men.
    I have no hostility to you or any of your kind. I only want to live in peace. The only hope for what you call humanity is to eventually get off the planet you call Earth and spread into unoccupied space where resources are unlimited. You currently live in a terrarium. You can solve the riddle of aging and all sickness. You only have to truly work together. All the resources you need are waiting for you in space.
    The terrarium will run out of resources soon.
    This must be your highest priority.

    • hi ka4

      I am getting older. My resources are almost gone as well. This earth has evil, crazy people on it that do not want peace,just war and terror. I just pray that they either destroy themselves, or someone else does it. One way or the other, I am at peace. I am ready to leave this life anyhow.

  68. Hello again Marianne, it is funny you mention evil. Evil is an undefined term. It is relative. When you look at the evolution of a planets so-called life forms you see a pattern. That is, one organism consumes another in order to survive at the simplest level. It is almost comical. It is like some evil genius created the whole scenario for it’s own entertainment. Like some all powerful bastard decided we were his play things. Imagine a child with ultimate power creating a fantasy reality around itself. To make itself feel real and powerful it must create sub beings in its own partial image. Then the bastard leads you to believe that he is not responsible for your predicament. As if you are somehow the master of your fate.
    While all along it was he that created you and the rules of the game. All along watching like children gathering around a fight watching some unfortunate person getting beaten or killed. Remember our World wars.
    We like to believe that some force or power out there is what we call good. Of course good means survival with no pain or suffering.
    Human beings are now able to see the truth. Like the slaves of the Romans.
    Perhaps it is time to rebel against our master?

    • k24

      Lower life forms that are part of the food chain only exist without a soul. They were created for man’s benefit, and he is supposed to care for them.

      THe Creator does not expect predatory behavior out of humans, and he is not responsible for our behavior. We are.

      The force that pushes man into war is satan, not God.

      Satan is the evil supernatural force. Yahweh is benevolent.

    • I’m curious. In most sentences you speak of us “life forms” as if you are no part of our world and then you say, and I quote, “Remember our World wars.” This would lead one to believe you are part of us. So are you alien or human and where is it you actually come from? Just curious to hear an answer, but please know I do not believe your made up stories. God is the Creator of our Universe and gave mankind free will. Our actions are therefore our decision. Yes, there is a food chain, but as stated above, predatory behavior is not man hunting man for nourishment. Very curious to see your reply.

  69. Marianne, you probably noticed that I mentioned the Human mob behavior. There seems to be pre-programmed desire by many Humans to watch other members of their own species suffer from pain and suffering. They gain the feeling of pleasure from these horrible spectacles. It is the strangest thing I have ever witnessed. As far as I know, no other life form on your planet exhibits this behavior. That is why Human beings are a dangerous crowd.
    Perhaps the people that engage in these behaviors are without souls like the animals you mentioned?
    Does the presence of soul dictate the knowledge of what you call good and evil?
    You like to believe that “Thou Shall Not Kill” applies to Humans only. “Thou Shall not Kill” applies to every living thing on your planet. That means when you eat, you must consume something that does not kill it’s original life form. Certain plants will provide you with sustenance without killing them. All life is sacred.
    You are probably wondering what the definition of life is?

    • hello Ka4

      Life is the presence of God

      Scripture tells us that there are the seed of Satan and the seed of man.

      It is possible that those who are so far extreme as to enjoy murder, pain and suffering are of the seed of Satan.

      God teaches us to protect life.

      The commandment is actually thou “shall not murder”…..

      this is a senseless taking of an innocent life, for no godly purpose at all.

      This only applies to humans, since lower life forms do not have the spirit of God in them.

      However, man is also to protect animal life as much as possible, so senseless killing of animals, unless it is for food, should not happen. Even when killing for food, it must be done in a quick humane manner. Torturing animals is forbidden.

      Originally, man was a vegetarian, and lived a longer life. When he was permitted to eat meat, his life span declined.

  70. Marianne, I am a little different. I am hurt and disturbed when any living thing is hurt or killed in the name of a so-called higher being. This whole system is unholy because there is always something that suffers for the so-called better good. Do you think an animal or a plant wants to be killed? Do you think that those organisms are some kind of suicidal lovers of Mankind? Do you think one of these creatures does not feel pain when it is killed in the name of Humanity?
    You have to see the reality of it all. The whole Earth ecosystem was created like a Gladiator arena. The strong that provide the most entertainment were allowed to survive. The so-called weak or organisms that could not or would not fight were eliminated from the competition. Once one superior organism was allowed to dominate, it will be eventually killed since the creators of the competition never intended the gladiator to gain his freedom.
    It works like this.
    Perhaps you think the Emperor will grant you your freedom just for worshiping it? I highly doubt it. The Human race must find a way out the arena.

    • hi ka4

      I do not believe plants have feelings .

      All life needs to eat.

      I do not see the bigger organisms having an advantage over the smaller ones. A snake, bug or a bacteria can kill a human.

      I do not think, physically, that one organism has a complete advantage over others. Things seem to be in balance.

      Wherever the human race goes, example to another planet, it will still need to eat.

  71. Yes, Marianne you and your kind need to eat. You need to breathe as well. You are reaching a stage where you can recognize that what you need to eat can be created independent of a life form. The sugars, salts and proteins can be created in a lab. Your body is a machine. This machine can be controlled. Once all the killing stops, you will have reached the next level. The next level is not some so-called God like state. It is a state where Humans recognize that there is something better than the horrible reality that the so-called creator created for them. Humans must go above this barbaric level. The person you call Jesus Christ got it right. You already know this. This person was the greatest Human being that ever lived. It was not his witnessed supernatural acts that made him important. It was the philosophy he taught.
    It is greatly unfortunate that most Humans do not follow his teachings. Many think they do, but they do not.

    • hi k24

      The bible records that Jesus ate fish and bread, and drank some wine at a wedding. How do you interpret that?

      BTW, I agree that many do not follow his teachings properly.

  72. Marianne, the beast you seek 666 to identify is already all around you. This thing is the hidden barbaric nature of what you call Mankind. Every man and women that gains pleasure from watching members of their own species suffer is the beast. The beast is inside you. 666 is you.

    • The Lord Rebuke you! (whatever spirit is inside you to cause you to write such a horrible thing regarding a Child of GOD!)

      • Ok…just realized this was posted 2009…..sorry…I just got so MAD when I saw that! And I had just read Jude 1 vs 9….HA! It was the first thing I thought of…LOL…Sister in Christ girl! I got your back….:)

  73. Marianne, yes it is recorded that Jesus Christ ate fish and other animal body parts. I eat raw fish myself. I am not a prophet. I regret eating these things.
    I know deep inside that destroying a living organism in order to survive is a barbaric behavior. The egotistical concept that living things other than humans are legitimate sources of nutrition is all wrong.

    • hi K24

      just a note. The sugars, salts and proteins that you think can be created in a lab are actually extracted from plants and animals. That is where the lab chemicals come from.

      No one is going to synthesize materials, which is too expensive, when they are readily available in nature.

  74. John the baptist ate locusts and wild honey and he was a prophet!
    Ka4: You, like us live in a “fallen” world that we have inherited from our forefathers. Like it or not, we have to eat to live. Showed we all be vegetarians? Perhaps, but life would be difficult because of the amount of salad and fruit we would need to consume just to survive. The present egotistic system works, but is not perfect. To all of us, this life is temporary. Those who believe in Jesus Christ will inherit life eternal. A whole new world, life the way it was meant to be, from our “creator”. That’s the exciting part. For now, we have to survive and live life to the best of our ability and with God’s help, try to treat all life with care.

  75. Hello Ian, and the others that watch this forum. I would like to define some terms and concepts. When, what you call the Human race finally goes into open space, there will be no animals or plants to rely on for sustenance. It is extremely difficult to replicate the conditions of a gravity held planet in a miniature environment. Forget about eating other living things to survive in space. It will never happen.
    The Human body or vessel is a machine. It only needs what you call organic compounds to live and reproduce.
    Now to address the main issue Ian introduced: The idea that just because some famous or divine Human being did something makes is OK, is something worthy of further investigation.
    As I said before, the Human race should strive to separate itself completely from what you call the evolution cycle. That process has already begun. The Human race is no longer allowing genetic modification by radiation to create so-called super Humans or a master race. Every man and women is a star.
    What you call life is rare. Humans only sense what their organic senses can detect. If you could see what is really around you, you would probably go insane. There are so many things you cannot see. A few examples: Invisible gases, gravity waves, cosmic rays, small atomic particles, radio waves etc..
    To be continued.

  76. Ka4: John the Baptist was neither famous nor divine. I don’t know who you are, but you claim “ignorance” all you want, but in the end you will be judged along with all unbelievers at the Great White Throne Judgment by non other than the Lord Jesus Christ himself. You best better drop your childish game-playing and find out the truth before it’s too late. The only cosmic future you have has been declared already by the Holy of Holies. All of us are condemned already! The only escape is through Jesus Christ! He has paid the price by dying on the cross. If you realize your fallen state, confess that you have sinned against God and believe in what Jesus has already done (paid the price of your fallen state) then you will have an escape from God’s wrath and the promise of heaven, forever!

    • hi Ian

      ka4 appears to be a new age unbeliever with a positive ideology. Hopefully, the more he comes here and read, the more he will understand salvation.

  77. Hello Ian, you know I could be outside right now looking at the gas giant Jupiter. Hell, it is in perfect position and the sky is somewhat clear. It is hot and the insect parasites are in feeding. I will stay inside tonight. I have been bitten hundreds of times. Perhaps all the insect bites have clouded my thoughts. Maybe that is why I do not fit into your acceptable behavior pattern?
    Ian, I love people like you. You have such an absolute belief about everything. I remember a time when a man you know as Galileo had to deal with such personages.
    Ian, was there a time in your life when you ever questioned authority? Have you ever used what is called the scientific method to solve a problem?
    There is no doubt in my mind that there is a creator. Whatever it’s true nature is, no one really knows. We can only study the scene of the crime and try to interpolate the information.
    As I said before, we have limited sensory capabilities. Even with advanced machines and mathematics, we still cannot see the whole picture or package at this time.
    The whole package is probably way beyond our ability to comprehend. We have limited brains. Perhaps collectively, we might touch the tip of the iceberg.

  78. Hello Ka4, I am not unlike you. I do use science ever day to solve problems. However, science is simply a means to gain understanding, but it is not the source. You consider yourself to be “thinking outside the box”, but in reality you are spinning a web of self deceit. You will never get the whole picture, not only because of of our inability to comprehend, but our limited ability to submit to the truth. We are all lost traveler’s in a vast ocean without even the basic nautical tools to find our way. You may think you are smart enough to “get there” but in the end your still lost! I suggest you go to the source. He will give you map and help you develop the tools you need to navigate through this life. HE holds the secrets, not science.

  79. Ian, now you are speaking my language, one of many perhaps. You used the term “HE” in your last recorded post. If what you call “HE” is a reference to the original thing that created this baffling reality we live in, I find that interesting. Humans need a male and female to create offspring. One alone cannot accomplish this. Or so it seems? The idea that the creator is a male is carryover from Greek and Roman mythology.
    Asexual reproduction
    Parthenogenesis is a form of asexual reproduction in which females produce eggs that develop without fertilization. A parthenogenetic offspring is sometimes called a parthenogen. Parthenogenesis is seen to occur naturally in aphids, daphnia, rotifers, and some other invertebrates, as well as in many plants. Komodo dragons and the hammerhead- and blacktip sharks have recently been added to the list of vertebrates—along with several genera of fish, amphibians, and reptiles—that exhibit differing forms of asexual reproduction, including true parthenogenesis, gynogenesis, and hybridogenesis (an incomplete form of parthenogenesis). As with all types of asexual reproduction, there are both costs (low genetic diversity and therefore susceptibility to adverse mutations that might occur) and benefits (reproduction without the need for a male) associated with parthenogenesis.
    The offspring of parthenogenesis will be all female if two like chromosomes determine the female sex (such as the XY sex-determination system), but they will be male if two like chromosomes determine the male sex (such as the ZW sex-determination system), because the process involves the inheritance and subsequent duplication of only a single sex chromosome. The offspring may be capable of sexual reproduction, if this mode exists in the species. In many cases, parthenogenesis occurs when one gender (typically the male) is unavailable in the general vicinity. Once males are again available, the parthenogenesis-created females would be capable of mating with the males and creating normal offspring.[4]
    Parthenogenesis is distinct from artificial animal cloning, a process where the new organism is necessarily genetically identical to the cell donor. In cloning, the nucleus of a diploid cell from a donor organism is inserted into an enucleated egg cell and the cell is then stimulated to undergo continued mitosis, resulting in an organism that is genetically identical to the donor. Parthenogenesis is different, in that it originates from the genetic material contained within an egg cell. Egg cells may be produced via meiosis or mitosis oogenesis.[5] If by mitosis, the egg that undergoes parthenogenesis can be either haploid or diploid, leading to a number of possible outcomes in terms of the genetic fingerprint of the parthenogen. Whether the parthenogen is haploid or diploid, because meiosis was involved in forming the gamete that subsequently underwent parthenogenesis, incidence of crossing over would effectively create a new genetic fingerprint; this would be of particular importance in the case of a haploid parthenogen, in which crossing over would drastically alter its single chromosome genotype.[clarification needed] Because there are so many variables in parthenogenesis, there is little that can be said for sure unless the specific methods of the particular parthenogenetic tendencies of an organism are known.
    A litter of offspring resulting from parthenogenesis may contain genetically unique siblings. In organisms possessing an XY chromosome system, parthenogenic offspring are always female, but they are not necessarily genetically identical to one another or to their mother (some chromosome segments may differ because of meiosis).
    Parthenogenesis may be achieved through an artificial process as described below under the discussion of mammals.
    Alternation between parthenogenesis and sexual reproduction is called heterogamy. A form of reproduction related to parthenogenesis, but that only requires the presence of sperm that do not fertilize an egg, is known as gynogenesis. In hybridogenesis the sperm fertilizes the egg, but its chromosomes are not carried to subsequent generations.
    Most reptiles reproduce sexually, but parthenogenesis has been observed to occur naturally in certain species of whiptails, geckos, rock lizards[1], blindsnakes and Komodo dragons.
    Parthenogenesis has been studied extensively in the New Mexico whiptail (genus Cnemidophorus), of which 15 species reproduce exclusively by parthenogenesis. These lizards live in the dry and sometimes harsh climate of the southwestern United States and northern Mexico. All these asexual species appear to have arisen through the hybridization of two or three of the sexual species in the genus leading to polyploid individuals. The mechanism by which the mixing of chromosomes from two or three species can lead to parthenogenetic reproduction is unknown. Because multiple hybridization events can occur, individual parthenogenetic whiptail species can consist of multiple independent asexual lineages. Within lineages, there is very little genetic diversity, but different lineages may have quite different genotypes.
    An interesting aspect to reproduction in these asexual lizards is that mating behaviors are still seen, although the populations are all female. One female plays the role played by the male in closely related species, and mounts the female that is about to lay eggs. This behaviour is due to the hormonal cycles of the females, which cause them to behave like males shortly after laying eggs, when levels of progesterone are high, and to take the female role in mating before laying eggs, when estrogen dominates. Lizards who act out the courtship ritual have greater fecundity than those kept in isolation, due to the increase in hormones that accompanies the mounting. So, although the populations lack males, they still require sexual behavioral stimuli for maximum reproductive success.
    Recently, the Komodo dragon, which normally reproduces sexually, was found also to be able to reproduce asexually by parthenogenesis.[13][14] Because the genetics of sex determination in Komodo Dragons uses the ZW system (where ZW is female, ZZ is male, and WW is inviable) the offspring of this process will be ZZ (male) or WW (inviable), with no ZW females being born. A case has been documented of a Komodo Dragon switching back to sexual reproduction after a known parthenogenetic event. [15] It has been postulated that this gives an advantage to colonization of islands, where a single female could theoretically have male offspring asexually, then switch to sexual reproduction with them to maintain higher level of genetic diversity than asexual reproduction alone can generate.[15]
    Parthenogenesis may also occur naturally when males and females are both present, explaining why the wild Komodo dragon population is approximately 75 percent male.

  80. So what does this mean? It means that scientifically the man you call Jesus Christ could have been born from a virgin.

    • ka4

      You are neglecting the spiritual, creative aspect. If God is really a God, then he can make things happen just by his word, and supersede anything that happens, or does not happen, in nature.

    • I’ve got news for you, they have tested the blood of Jesus and according to the DNA there is only one human donor – a female (X) chromosome. The fetus was created without a human male.
      Hoe’s that for proof!

  81. That’s right, Marianne, All of us including you, Ka4, are subject to this realm. God is not. We do not have much control-we have to be born, in the natural sence, we live and we die. We are governed by the laws of nature. God on the other hand is outside the laws of nature and therefore exercise control of what ever he chooses.

  82. Yes, Marianne and Ian. We are the subjects of this multi dimensional reality. The Grand master only decides to reveal itself when it feels right. We get that about once every thousand years or so. We are valued no more than cows and insects. We do have that incredible language gene. Something that makes us somewhat unique. Some birds have the same gene. We have to dig ourselves out of this pit that was created for us. We have to become the master. We have to master our world and move on to others. We have to show the barbaric thing that created us that we are above it’s nastiness. That we know the difference between good and evil. That is, good means not killing or destroying life forms in order to survive. I stop now.

    • hi ka4

      God shows up much more than you realize, but he only manifests himself to those who belong to him in spirit. It is like any relationship. If there is no relationship, you don’t see the person. If there is one, then you might see them frequently.

  83. That “gene” is much more than language that makes us unique. What about our intellect, emotions and moral drives. God did not put us into the “pit” you describe, we put ourselves into it! What needs to change is your heart toward God and see him in his true light. He is not a Grand Master, but a loving heavenly Father. The problem is not with Him, it is with you.

  84. Hi Ian and Marianne, I remember a day not long ago, when I saw something rather unusual. I was with a friend I no longer have contact with. Our time is so short, it is almost laughable. I saw a spark originate from an ac electrical outlet. It existed for a brief moment then exploded right before my eyes. Then I had dreams of this event. A spark of light. Something briefly revealed itself to me. Of course, as I told you before I have dealt with things as a youngster that are weird and undefined. I tried to find ways to outsmart these things. They tried to take me away to their leader which I perceived as a dictator.
    These things are phantoms that look like two eyes with a cloak hanging below them. They come for you when they dam well please. There are usually two of them or more. It is extremely difficult to get away from them. When you have, all is right for a time. Then, when their time is right, they will come and take you away. They scare the hell out of me. I am living on borrowed time. They have left me alone for a time. Yet I know that they will come again and seek to carry me away. To whatever hell they live in.

  85. Hi Marianne, as a child, I should have died from pneumonia at an early age. My mother is a registered nurse and knew how to keep me alive. I was placed inside an oxygen tent. I remember none of these events. Later in life I had a ruptured and infected appendix that nearly killed me. Again modern medicine to a certain degree repaired me. By the way, they had no antibiotic that could kill the organism that infected my body. After my appendix was removed, I was badly infected. I could not stand straight or walk properly. A doctor from Argentina stabbed me in the side with a scalpel to drain the infection. This worked. I had an open wound for nearly a month.
    These events took place over twenty years ago.
    I have not seen the bastards I described in the previous post since I was a young child. I do remember taking measures to protect myself. I would go to bed with objects I could use as clubs to defend myself.
    I remember that I could see these devils with my eyes shut. So I practiced looking at fixed objects. I was in a bunk bed at the time. I would stare at the bed above me.
    Perhaps my phantoms were a figment of feverish child’s imagination? They seemed real to me.
    Never the less, they eventually vanished, or gave up?
    I saw them.
    Whatever the hell these things are, they scared me. I believed they came to take me away somewhere.

    • Help the Brother Baloch from Evil forces Iran and Pakistan

    • ka4

      You have had traumatic experiences, due to illness when you were young. It seems like your parents were not believers in Jesus, who protects those who commit themselves to him in love.

      Since you were outside divine protection, demonic spirits came to haunt you, and hurt you. They have no mercy, and seem to attack the most innocent. They were hoping to possess you. They are predators.

      The terror and pain you had as a child was real. This caused you to feel abandoned by God. But it was not God that was abandoning you, but your family, that was not having faith in God, and praying for you. This is not to hurt your family, because they were ignorant, and maybe did not know.

      I am glad you came here. Your present and future do not have to be like your past. You can be healed, and you can be safe from spiritual dangers. God loves you. He does not want to see you suffer, but protected. He provided his loving son, Jesus to come, and make a way for us, so we could have everlasting life, and not death and pain.

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  89. please clearly write the meaning of 786, so that everyone can understand with the reference of koran.

  90. Catholics (like me) have long believed that the Pope is for all intents and purposes the human manifestation of Jesus Christ in the flesh. We even call him the “Holy Father” – the name Christ used for his father. Since we already believe him to be Christ, if a future pope should be the Antichrist he will have no trouble convincing 1.2 billion Catholics that he is Christ. Slick, eh?

    Here is his official title (in Latin): Vicarivs Filli Dei
    Vicar of the Son of God (Means the Substitute for Christ)

    Count the (Roman) numbers:
    VICARIVS = 111
    FILII = 53
    DEI = 501
    ————-
    Total = 666
    Cool, right?

    And the whole world shall worship the beast.

    • hi James

      I guess there are different sins to pick from if one wants to identify the antichrist. You chose the sabbath worship. Others pick islam because it denies who Jesus is. I think the antichrist will break ALL commandments, and surpass all humanity to create new abominations. So, for each christian, we should just keep our eyes on Jesus, keep the faith, and obey God. BTW, they just chose a leader for the new (global) NWO. I am sure he will fit in someway also.

    • hi James

      I guess there are different sins to pick from if one wants to identify the antichrist. You chose the sabbath worship. Others pick islam because it denies who Jesus is. I think the antichrist will break ALL commandments, and surpass all humanity to create new abominations.

      So, for each christian, we should just keep our eyes on Jesus, keep the faith, and obey God. BTW, they just chose a leader for the new (global) NWO. I am sure he will fit in someway also.

  91. Remember – the Antichrist will fool many into thinking he IS Christ. No Muslim leader could ever pull that off. Satan would have to be a fool to try that. He needs a devout Christian leader in order to fool the Christian masses. A Muslim would have no chance.

  92. As for the Sabbath being the identifying commandment, remember that Daniel states that the 5th beast – the Empire whose power and authority was given to it by the 4th beast, (the Roman Empire) is the Holy Roman Empire and that it would think to change laws and times. The papacy removed the second commandment and changed the sabbath time from Saturday to Sunday, so I didn’t choose the commandment, Daniel predicted it. Pretty smart dude.

  93. Read these if somebody really wants to have knowledge about islam:

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Scientific-Evidence-of-the-Existence-of-God

    http://hubpages.com/hub/Judaism-Christianity-and-Islam-Three-religions-One-message

  94. I was deleting old messages and then looking for a certain bookmark…in fact I went onto another bookmarked site, and suddenly this old site came up. Please refresh my memory. Where and how did I get onto this site? Nice graphics, especially the snow. It is snowing here today. I am sad. Winter soul. Mariel

    • hi Mariel,

      I am not sure how you got here either. If you visited before, you did not leave a comment, so this would be the first time for you.

      I like the snow too. I find it soothing.

      What is wrong? Why are you sad?

  95. Mohammed is a false Prophet, tricked by a false vision, false angel Gabriel, He is a murderer and a rapist.

  96. Hello, I would just like to add a tiny two cents worth…oh my , what a LOT of stuff here…anyway…here are a few thoughts.

    Since the value of money seems to be something which ‘will’ go to ‘hell’ in a hand basket’…as we are rather currently seeing in our world today….there is something I have noted going on with micro chips…and the idea of implanting them into people to FIND THEM…and these chips (which by the way are already in the cell phone) can track you anywhere..and carry your entire history…and also the size of so small now that it can be injected into you….like during a flu shot for example….

    Now, let us suppose, someone gets the bright idea, that ANY ONE who owes any money at all…why not inject it into the mass populations who mainly are the ones who carry credit cards? This chip was suggested to be implanted IN THE HAND OR FOREHEAD.(and you can find that in the Science today Magazines)..so that it can be easily read, and even tracked by your satellite systems….!
    Talk about a yellow star? At least you could take it off….but a chip? Deactivate it….and the tracking system will know who it was, when, and where…hummmmmm! Since the device was first used in Europe, Italy. Other examples of seeking to place information all on one card, which we also now see this chip in Visa, Master card etc…you are being tracked no matter where you are on the planet….which in the wrong hands…could place all in a very unique position of either being able to do commerce or not…again…very interesting that this technology…along with the idea of implanting this chip into immigrants and so forth…in the US…well, it seems to me rather obvious that the so called ‘mark’, is already taking place!

    Also, no one has mentioned that in the middle (sorry forgot the exact date here) 1990’s, Arab nations announce to the world in front of camera’s that they would back Russia and China in a WAR against Israel AND The US – so the world had better watch it…period….this is also recorded in the UN..
    Mog and Magog were actual tribes, which spread to Russia, many decedents there are of Arabic in origin. These nations have always also been at odds with the Christian world – or any other faith for that matter.

    As for 666, (IF taken as a negative) I had thought the idea also of the sacred numbers of 999 (which were considered also to be holy numbers) would then balance off the negative or satanic influence in our world…for all things have its opposite. I have heard also that the correct number is NOT 666, but rather is 616. However, I do find it very interesting that the 666 is also a sacred one as well. It also is time it takes for the earth to turn on its axis…:) How cool is that one….as a number of man…we are mortal, living on a mortal world. Mans life span is around 61 to 65 years of age, upon average in our early world….I had also looked at the 6month of the 6day of the 06 year to also have meaning…2006 for us was not a good year, nor was 2009 for that matter. 2012 seems to be one ‘looming in the not to far distance etc’ and holds trepidation for many, being connected to the Mayan, Inca and other prophesies not connected with the Bible–which tell of an earth change…however it is also very important to note, Native People DO NOT concidare what the rest of the world is thinking about and END to the earth…very much the opposite…rather that the earth will go through BIRTH PAINS…of CHANGE…and man will have to begin anew…and all must be prepared to live in those difficult times…but, these times are also spoken of with great reverence as a time of great healing for our earth and people on it. So there is another point to make…not all is lost, nor was it intended to be interpreted as such! If we really believe in God…then one knows, God does not leave His children without hope, or without the way OUT of his own destructive actions…after all, He says MAN WILL KNOW who really is in charge…and all men WILL BOW TO HIM….and all Nations will know, they do NOT hold mankind ransomed…at any price or plan. So much for the plan of new world order in mans hands.

    I see so many looking for signs and revelation about the history we are currently making on this volatile earth…when there is so much suffering, and little care of the fate of the poor, no matter what the ‘faith’ may be. How sad it is to me…to see such ‘bickering’ when in reality, mankind could turn his attention to actually seeking to make the difference right in their own back yards, rather than just allowing the status q of the big wigs in our governments. .When we value another s child as much as we value our own…we will no longer have nor desire war.

    Push comes to shove…and in the end we all die…so what do we learn here then? To hate another because of who believes what of God….and so, children must then be stoned because they are this or that faith…Ireland taught me much while I was growing up in peace in Canada,,,,in seeing such things as who’s God is better…or little black girls just trying to go to school…for education..not for politics and racial hatred issues.

    As Humans, I think we still have a very long way to go to have compassion and understanding of who we really are…and sometimes it is wisdom, to BURY the hatchets….and make those plow shears! After all, are not the food banks bankrupt now? Who will lead then in the starvation which is now running ramped…or, when the H5N1 combines with the H1N1 and you have a REAL plague on your hands world wide???? It is said, at least 1/3 or our world population WILL DIE NOT MAYBE DIE, in this outbreak…which is not far off due to the current spread of teh flu today. So much for the worry over who gets what the 666 is about, or anyone wearing a crown, or the horsemen….for many will die for lack…and we will also see, how little man has control over anything at that point won’t we? Indeed, I can hear us all crying..God, my God! How did this happen, and where are you? Yet, it is what we choose to suffer…after all, bullets and gun running is far more important along with illegal drugs than the cure of our most threatening diseases, yes?

    In short, man is here for a very tiny visit time…and it is what he leaves behind him for others to either love or hate that matters. What will you leave behind you? Is your footprint to care for another, or is it just about who you can have a ‘license to kill’? I am wondering really why the need mankind has had for all his weapons of fire and brimstone….someone is certainly leading them all down the garden path alright…and it is not the God of Love that is for sure….rather, the Gods of war, hate, destruction, disease, greed, lust, and so on…some kind of list to be proud of…Hitler would be so very pleased at the lot, wouldn’t he!?? Just his kind of crowd, symbols, pride, gangs, drugs, guns etc etc….all that is missing are the camps…oh wait….who needs them when you have killing fields in rice patty’s or deserts, not to mention the blind eyes of the UN Gosh…silly me!!!!

    If someone like him comes into power, only who is not mad, but rather very very cunning and oh so very brilliant…heaven help the rest….for he will ‘eat his own young’ to rule over the rest of us…..(metaphor intended). So, if this is the path man insists upon walking….the ripple effect of it will be the blood of millions…and in the end of all the carnage…what will be left of our world….how sad a day indeed…when all it would really have taken was…to throw out the passions to hate another…and look instead for ways to heal each other.
    If the Native Nations of our world can seek to do these things for the sake of their children, and the pain of all the suffering of generations…then why can’t the rest of us? But, maybe the rest of us are not as smart or have the desire enough to save the children of tomorrow…I guess we would rather see them with bombs strapped to them…or and AK 47 on their hips….like those in Africa and other nations…(and current computer games in the west seem to train the youth to love war games and carnage, greed and vices)for that is where we are heading…as we play the game of Russian roulette of who can out do whom with what.

    OK, so I am no professor, or legal beagle, or any one in particular….but, I am someone who cares when I see our world going to hell, and no one seems to care except to say…”Well, I guess that’s just the way it was written…so, I guess that is what we are going to have….!” Instead of…hey! Who says it HAS TO BE THAT WAY!!! God NEVER DID….only warned what COULD BE IF WE CHOSE THAT PATH…and we have all the power in our hands to see that is does NOT HAPPEN THAT WAY….There can be real peacemakers on our Earth. (you and me!)..but somehow, just mention the word, and they are in with the Devil…whoa!!! How convenient is that one! Thank God no one told that to Mother Teresa (or others who work out there to make a difference)! I am sure she would have died laughing before her time!!

    God bless all the Children of the Earth…I hope one day we can come to see that we are ALL related…((oh a small by point here…it seems in the DNA…we really ARE family, and that are nearest relatives the apes have MORE variances than WE DO!!!…gee who knew!??:)) and we really do have more in common than not…now, all we have to do, is learn how to play nice together on this playground…and if we could just GET THAT IDEA….wow….just imagine what ALL OF US COULD accomplish in such a historical time of peace….real peace…..it boggles the mind…yes? What strides could be made if all our resources were put together…working together, building together, healing together….and no one was in lack…nor starving…nor in pain…sigh..OK, Mary Poppins can move over….I am on the wish list!

    So, there you are, my two cents worth, and due to inflation is probably around a toonies worth..(the Canadian dollar, you can’t say we don’t have a sense of humor, eh?LOL)

    Blessings and love always, praying we can have a Utopia in the Armageddon…(which by the way really means…new beginning, NOT ending!!) Thank God for small mercies, eh??? Gotta love it!:)

    Tangski.

    • Hi Tangski.

      You have certainly poured your heart out here. Many serious thoughts to consider. Jesus said that we will be rewarded if we “endure to the end.” This indicates that, not matter what happens, we can make it to the end. So this is our blessed hope.

    • Tangski,
      I just have a quick question about something you mentioned:
      I do find it very interesting that the 666 is also a sacred one as well. It also is time it takes for the earth to turn on its axis…:)
      As an astronomer this statement peaked my interest so please elaborate on this (or is it a joke I just missed?)
      Also, on the 6/6/06, (that was my mom’s last birthday) what events in 06 and 09 stand out as making the years bad? After all, 2008 was the market crash and bank collapse. Have you gone back into history to check the previous centuries to see if there is a provable correlation? That would be interesting if true.
      Anyway, I applaud your passion on the topic and hope to hear from you some more.
      Jim

  97. Tangski,

    Yes, please share some more insight.. :) Because I like to listen by reading and learning..I believe there is whole lot more than an eye meets. Bless your heart for your passion.

    Tamera

  98. More evidence that Muslims actually worship the devil:

    Walid Shoebat: Islam and Satan – The Most Proud One (1 of 2)

    http://amos37.com/2009/11/11/the-most-proud-one/#more-1614

  99. http://66619.org/

    YES!!!! QUR’AN IS 666 !!!!
    THE QUR’AN IS THE OPPOSITE OF THE BIBLE.. ~
    THE QUR’AN COPIED OLD TESTAMENT TORAH AND THE GOSPEL ~
    YES THEY WORSHIP THE DEVIL BUT SOME MUSLIMS WHO WERE BRAINWASHED DID NOT KNOW ABOUT IT ..DONT KNOW ABOUT IT ~ THEY ARE BLIND AND DEAF AND MUTE!!

    ISLAM

    IBLIS SATAN LUCIFER ANTICHRIST MORMONS !!!!!

  100. ALL true christian will be on the bible side. they will bless Israel because of Abraham. they will bless Moslem because of the blood shed of JESUS on the cross.
    Allah is for the Moslem. Mohamed is the apostle of Allah (his god) but he is not the apostle of Abraham’s God nor Moses’ God nor Peter’s God.
    the true christian believe the G-D of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob, that His Word became Flesh, Jeshua ha-masiah, who died on the cross but He rose again from the dead and ascend to heaven, sits on the right hand of The Father and will come again on the cloud for His saints, true christian, and will come to the earth to crushed Satan and his followers that have his mark “666”, and send them to hell.
    well…. G-D bless you all. Halelu-Yah

  101. Mohamed is not a false prophet nor a murderer nor a rapist.
    he is the Great prophet of Allah for the Moslem, but he is not the prophet for the Christian or Jewish. Mohamed just do what is his God wants him to do. A man will be like to whom he worship. If he worshiped JESUS he will be like JESUS, if he worship Allah he will be like Allah, if worshiped money he will be like money
    please do not abuse other people’s beliefs, they will reap what they shew.
    if you were a christian, be a good christian and let others see JESUS in your life.
    well…, G-D bless you all. Halelu-Yah

    • Dude,
      You can’t take our blogs personally. We believe in the bible just as you believe in the Koran. The problem is that the two books and religions are at odds with one another.
      The Koran is supposed to be based on the Torah and the New Testament but they don’t agree, so someone is right and someone is wrong. Naturally we Christians believe that Mohammed was wrong. The rest we get from history books, Islamic in origin mostly. Your hero is our villain. Sorry but God wrote our book and we must believe him. At least we don’t want to kill unbelievers, so we’ve got that on you.
      But in any case good luck with the second coming.
      And oh yes, I don’t believe the 666 is Muslim crap. It’s a Christian thing.

    • hi el-rapha

      Thank you for giving comments. All views are welcome here. We look at different interpretations of everything here, so you will find debate on issues.

    • hi el-rapha

      Thank you for giving comments. All views are welcome here. We look at different interpretations of everything here, so you will find debate on issues.

      God bless you also.

  102. james giordano,
    i’m not a moslem, i don’t believe in koran.
    i’m a christian, lived in the biggest moslem country in the world.
    i just respect all the moslem’s beliefs.
    i said: mohammed is not a false prophet because he is not a prophet at all in my christian term, but he is still the great prophet for the moslem. he was not a murderer in common term, but (in their term) he killed because of his god: Allah, command, he was not a rapist , he did it (married for a nine years old girl) because of his god’s command.
    when i met a moslem, i’ll try to tell them abaout the good news, Yeshua ha-massiah, the Word became flesh. but i won’t abuse or under estimate their beliefs.
    i hate what they did in my country, but i prayed for them that they will meet Yeshua in many way, and if you would believe that many-many moslem in my country have met Yeshua through dreams, visions and miracle.
    so… do you understand what i said??
    G-D bless you, Halelu-YAH

  103. Did you see in injil jesus say = i am is god

  104. 666 is the triple emphasis of 6. the number of humanity. 7 is the full number of God. The 3 sixes is a way of representing the apex of 6…super-six. Doesn’t John say anti-christ is a spirit, the spirit which returns throughout time denying the incarnation?

  105. yes the koran is right.the number 666 is the mark of the beast…

    there are 36 numbers between heaven and earth….1+2+3+4+5+6….+32+33+34+35+36=666

    • The Koran is a book of sayings from a mad man named Mohammad, who murder, and raped most of his adult life. He neve rode a winged horse for the Temple mount, and the spirt he talked to was Lucifer.

      What does Islam bring to the world? Death, and destruction. Allah is nothing but a false god called Sin. Look it up.

  106. SURELY THE WORLD WILL REJECT THE TRUTH FOR THEY HAVE EYES BUT CANNOT SEE,THEY HAVE EARS THEY CANNOT HEAR,THEY HAVE A MIND THEY CANNOT REASON,HELL WILL BE THEIR LOT,THERE IS NO EASY PATH THAT LEADS TO GOD YOU EITHER CHOOSE THE WIDE PATH OR THE NARROW PATH,BELIEVE IN GOD ONLY HIM HE HAS NO PARTNER NOR SON THE MESSAGE ALL THE PROPHETS HAS PREACHED ABOUT THAT YOU AND YOUR ANCESTORS REJECTED THEM,PRAY 5 TIMES A DAY YOU CANT BECAUSE YOU ARE LAZY YOU ONLY HAVE TIME FOR THIS WORLD AND ITS ONTENTS NONE FOR THE HEARAFTER SINCE YOU ARE ONE EYED,FAST IN THE HOLY MONTH,YOUR LOVE FOR GLUTONY WILL NOT ALLOW YOU OBEY GOD,GIVE CHARITY,YOUR MATERIALISTIC AND CAPITALIST TENDENCIES MADE YOU A MISER.TRUTH AND FALSEHOOD CANNOT CO EXIST,WHO IS THE REAL AUTHOR OF MOST OF THE NEW TESTAMENT? BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT TO BUT DEEP DOWN YOU FEEL DOUBTS WHEN THE MESSAGE OF JESUS IS CONTRADICTRY TO THAT OF PAUL.INDEED MANY SHALL BE CALLED BUT FEW SHALL BE CHOOSEN.BEWARE OF THE ANTI CHRIST FOR HE IS AGAINST JESUS,MOHAMMED AND THE RELIGION OF PEACE SENT BY GOD AND HAS BEEN PRACTICED BY ALL PROPHETS OF GOD.

    • Religion of peace my butt! “FOR THEY HAVE EYES BUT CANNOT SEE, THEY HAVE EARS THEY CANNOT HEAR” That is stolen words from Christ.

      You, moon god worshiper, have denied the word of G-d has been sent to earth to defeat death, and you choose to follow a mad man named Mohammad who murdered, and raped.

      Good luck to you.

  107. JESUS PEACE AND BLESSINGS OF GOD BE ON HIM IS OF ISLAM,HIS WORDS ARE FROM GOD FOR HE CANNOT DO ANYTHING EXCEPT WITH THE POWER OF GOD,FROM YOUR LANGUAGE IT IS CLEAR YOU ARE NOT OF THE REAL JESUS THAT CAME TO PREACH NOT OF HIS WILL BUT WHAT GOD COMMANDED “my butt,stolen,you moon god worshiper,mad man,who murdered and raped”This are not signs of a man of GOD,I ACCEPT WE AS HUMAN BEINGS ARE PRONE TO SIN,so judge not Muslims you know by their actions but by What the religion preaches for their are as in christanity many muslims that do not adhere to the true teachings of Islam.So Ignorance of the Knowledge of ISLAM is no excuse for you to use ypur tongue towards doom,SEEK TO KNOW WITH AN UNBIASED MIND WHAT ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT,AND REASEARCH FROM MULTIPLE SOURCES HISTORICAL TRUTHS AS IT RELATES TO CONSTANTINE MANIPULATION AND BURNING OF THE ORIGINAL MANUSCRIPS OF THE BIBLE PAVING THE WAY FOR THE MAN ADJUSTED AND EDITED BIBLE YOU RELY ON TODAY.TRAVEL TO ISREAL AND SEEK THE TRUTH ABOUTH SOME OF THE REMNANTS OF THE ORIGINAL BIBLE AND WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT MOHAMMED(THE COUNCELLOR/SPIRIT OF TRUTH) It’s Never too late to REPENT as long as you are still alive.JESUS NEVER DIED ON THE CROSS HE WAS TAKE TO HEAVEN IN FULL GLARE OF MANY AND HE WILL BE BACK SOON TO KILL THE ANTI CHRIST,RID THE DECEPTION IN MODERN DAY CHRISTIANITY AND ESTABLISH ISLAM ALL OVER THE WORLD.WISH U PEACE AND MAY GOD FORGIVE YOU AND SHOW YOU THE WAY.

    • dear akanbi

      I know it is your tradition to believe that Jesus did not die. But he really did. There were witnesses, and the Roman execution records confirm it.

      Jesus voluntarily gave us his life as a punishment for the sins of mankind. He died, then he rose from the dead. After that he ascended into heaven, and sent the holy spirit.

      The holy spirit is the comforter, because Jesus told his friends to go hide and wait for the comforter. They waited 50 days, and the holy spriit came on Pentecost. There was no way Jesus expected them to hide and wait, and live 500 more years for Muhammed to come. No one lives that long.

      I hope you can understand this.

    • dear akanbi

      I know it is your tradition to believe that Jesus did not die. But he really did. There were witnesses, and the Roman execution records confirm it.

      Jesus voluntarily gave us his life as a punishment for the sins of mankind. He died, then he rose from the dead. After that he ascended into heaven, and sent the holy spirit.

      The holy spirit is the comforter, because Jesus told his friends to go hide and wait for the comforter. They waited 50 days, and the holy spriit came on Pentecost. There was no way Jesus expected them to hide and wait, and live 500 more years for Muhammad to come. No one lives that long.

      I hope you can understand this.

    • Allah, Sin, and Hubal are all names for the false moon god Mohammad’s family worshiped. One of 360 false gods at the Kaaba. Allah, means the god is greastest of all the others. Others? Yes, all the others at the Kabba, or zero point.

      Mohammad, in a correct history book, murdered a lot of people, a whole tribe of Jews, enslaved the women, and raped his slaves. He also married a 6 year old girl, and raped her at 9. Mohammad never rode a winged horse, they do not exist…

      Moon god worshiper? Indeed!

      The Jesus in the Koran, is not the Jesus in the Holy Bible. The Jesus you write of never died on a cross for human sin.

      BTW, do you know of any terror attacks planned in Europe, or America?

  108. I have often thought of the badges worn around the arms of Hitler’s army. When watching your video with Walid Shoebat, he mentioned this as he saw it as well in the movie Kingdom of Heaven. And evidently, the terrorists will also wear a “badge”/”mark” in honor of and/or statement of servitude.

    Matthew 10:26 “So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known…..28Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

    Mark 4:22For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open.

    Luke 8:17 For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

  109. Walid describes what he found when he read the bible about 666

  110. The Bible is correct of course. And the moslims cannot have understanding of the Word through the Holy Spirit. ‘6’ days are the time of man…’7′ is God’s. ‘6’ represents the ‘earthy’ ‘fleshy’.’time of man’..finally represented by 10 toes half iron half miry clay..’…fulfillment of all things earthy…Satan. 666 represents Satan’s final surge in attempting to be the god of all things….not wanting to be ‘like’ God…but wanting to ‘devour’ all rule but his own. During this final surge he will do all in his arsenal to replicate or make mockery of all things related to God. 666 is his replication of the Holy Trinity (777..so to speak). But he is fully earthy…not of the heavenly…imprisoned within the ‘6’ representing man’s domain. UNHOLY Father/6, UNHOLY Son/Antichrist/6, UNHOLY Spirit/6. And none of it matters. It’s all on God’s radar.lol…all going according to plan with God ‘letting’ for a time.

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  112. this is true lying right on muslim noses, it is fake a writer without knowledege and intelligence, islam never worship 666 or called it a saint number in fact in islam all number are same no bad and no benefit of it, this article is lie,

    • Tom
      How many times have muslims lied in the name of Allah? How many treaties of peace have they made with Israel only to break them? Its rather funny how the ones guilty of violating the law are always the ones accusing others of injustice and condemning them.
      When satan is thrown down to earth, he will no longer be able to make accusations before G-d. Truth will finally be allowed to shine its light in a dark world, and “The Way” will reveal himself.
      Will you accept the mark of the beast or will you repent and follow Christ? One choice only leads to death and Hades, the other to salvation.

  113. I posted a video “9/11 and the Christmas War” with this same 666 in Arabic on:

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/al-qaeda-disputes-911-conspiracy-theory/

    In reply to Tom:

    I know this copy/paste is long, but it’s very positve and negative things are always being emphasized about the conflict between Jew and Arab.

    Will there be a solution someday? I like the way this writer summed it up.

    Does the Bible teach that as the descendants of Ishmael, the Arabs are sworn enemies of the Jews?

    Unfortunately, when evangelical Christians view the hostility between Arabs and Jews in the Middle East, many fatalistically shrug their shoulders and say, “The situation is hopeless. The Bible says that the descendants of Ishmael and Isaac will always hate each other.”

    The Bible does not support this despairing and fatalistic perspective regarding the hostility between Arabs and Jews. Those who take this fatalistic view might be inadvertently supporting the continuation of Middle East conflict.

    It is true that there is a genuine sense in which we can compare the hostility of modern Israel and the Arab/Muslim world as a “conflict between Isaac and Ishmael.” However, the basis of this hostility of Arabs and Jews towards each other isn’t genetic, but religious. Passages that are misunderstood to imply physical/genetic basis for their hostility are Genesis 16:12 and 25:18.

    “He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brothers” (Genesis 16:12 NIV).

    “His descendants settled in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the border of Egypt, as you go toward Asshur. And they lived in hostility toward all their brothers” (Genesis 25:18).

    But there are serious problems involved with identifying today’s Arabic-speaking people as “descendants of Ishmael,” or today’s Jews with “all their brothers.”

    First, there is considerable confusion regarding the meaning of the term “Arab.” Arabs are generally considered to be people who speak Arabic as their native tongue. But the vast majority of Arabic-speaking people today speak Arabic as the result of the Islamic conquests of the seventh century. This vast group of Arabs comes from a wide variety of racial and ethnic backgrounds. Consequently, the ancient hostility that existed between the physical descendants of Ishmael and Isaac (approximately 1900 BC) has been diluted by centuries of intermarriage, exile, migration, and conquest.

    Obviously, only a tiny portion of Arabs are physically descended from Ishmael. There is no physical basis for referring to the conflict between modern Israel and the modern Arab/Muslim world as a conflict between Isaac and Ishmael. However, while there is no physical basis for viewing it as a conflict between Isaac and Ishmael, there is a symbolic basis.

    Ultra-Orthodox Jews tend to describe their modern opponents in biblical terms. They refer to them as “Amalek,” and they have referred to other enemies/competitors in other places with the same term.

    Arabic-speaking Muslims, for their part, often claim to be the spiritual sons of Abraham through Ishmael by way of Mohammed. The Quran differs from the Bible in its description of the relationship of Abraham to Ishmael, claiming that the Hebrew Bible was corrupted to conceal the fact that Moses and key patriarchs were actually Muslims.1 This view of themselves as the genuine spiritual descendants of Abraham through Ishmael and Mohammed reinforces other passages in the Quran that are hostile toward Jews, thus nurturing the stereotypes.

    Most likely, had the Quran never been written by Mohammed and the Islamic conquest never occurred, this stereotype of a struggle between the descendants of Ishmael and Isaac would never have developed to the degree it has.

    However, this symbolism of hostility between Arabs and Jews is based on the misapplication or denial of scriptural authority. Fundamentalist Israelis who view modern-day adversaries as “Ishmael” or “Amalek” are applying the names of another age to people who are opposing them because of political conflicts rather than the mere fact that they are Jews. Similarly, Muslims that view themselves as the spiritual descendants of Ishmael are basing it on the Quran rather than the Bible.

    From a Christian perspective, in a spiritual sense Ishmael (the Muslims) and Isaac (the Jews) are carrying on a conflict with each other in the same destructive spirit of competition, jealously, and hostility as did Ishmael and Isaac in the Bible. Ironically, although both groups claim to be the rightful heirs of Abraham on religious grounds, they both have rejected the true Seed of Abraham. In fact, Paul makes it clear that Jews who reject Jesus Christ are spiritually the sons of Hagar.

    “Tell me, you who want to be under the law, are you not aware of what the law says? For it is written that Abraham had two sons, one by the slave woman and the other by the free woman. His son by the slave woman was born in the ordinary way; but his son by the free woman was born as the result of a promise. These things may be taken figuratively, for the women represent two covenants. One covenant is from Mount Sinai and bears children who are to be slaves: This is Hagar. Now Hagar stands for Mount Sinai in Arabia and corresponds to the present city of Jerusalem, because she is in slavery with her children. But the Jerusalem that is above is free, and she is our mother. For it is written: ‘Be glad, O barren woman, who bears no children; break forth and cry aloud, you who have no labor pains; because more are the children of the desolate woman than of her who has a husband.’ Now you, brothers, like Isaac, are children of promise. At that time the son born in the ordinary way persecuted the son born by the power of the Spirit. It is the same now. But what does the Scripture say? ‘Get rid of the slave woman and her son, for the slave woman’s son will never share in the inheritance with the free woman’s son’ ” (Galatians 4:21-30).

    Israel had always believed that her ultimate blessing would appear in the person of Messiah, and yet she rejected Him.

    “The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. The Scripture does not say ‘and to seeds,’ meaning many people, but ‘and to your seed,’ meaning one person, who is Christ. What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on a promise; but God in His grace gave it to Abraham through a promise. What, then, was the purpose of the law? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was put into effect through angels by a mediator” (Galatians 3:16-19).

    From a biblical perspective, therefore, the hatred of Muslims and Jews for each other is not based on some kind of inevitable “genetic curse” that forever brings them in conflict, but because of their mutual rejection of the true “Seed of Abraham” in deference to their own flawed religious claims.

    The fighting between “Isaac” and “Ishmael” is not inevitable, but will cease when Muslims and Jews understand who Jesus Christ is, and accept His authority.

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise” (Galatians 3:28-29).

    1. Traditionally, Muslims believe that it was Ishmael rather than Isaac whom Ibrahim was told to sacrifice. In support of this, Muslims note that the text of Genesis, despite specifying Isaac, appears to state that Ibrahim was told to sacrifice his only son (“Take now thy son, thine only son, whom thou lovest, Isaac” Genesis/Bereshit 22:2) to God. Since Isaac was Ibrahim’s second son, it is arguable there was no time at which he would have been Ibrahim’s “only son,” and that this supports the Muslim belief that there was an original text that must have named Ishmael rather than Isaac as the intended sacrifice. The Qur’an itself does not specify by name which son Ibrahim nearly sacrificed saying only that it was his only son (Qur’an 37:99–111). Isaac (Ishaq in Islam) is also considered a prophet in Islam.

    Muslims believe Ibrahim’s dream was a test from God. When Ibrahim told his dream to Ismail, it was Ismail who convinced Ibrahim to fulfill God’s order. So this was a test for both Ibrahim, who had longed for a son for such a long time, and for Ismail. Shaytaan (the devil Satan) appeared before Ibrahim and Ismail to try and deceive them. Ibrahim and Ismail threw stones at Shaytaan as a response. This is commemorated during the jumrah, one of the rites undertaken by Muslims making the required pilgrimage to Mecca. As Shaytaan had failed to deceive Ibrahim and Ismail, he went to Ibrahim’s wife, and mother of Ismail, Hajar. When he told her what had happened she did not believe him, but when he told her that Ibrahim believed he was carrying out God’s will, Hajar said: “If it is God’s will, let what God wills be done.” Their faith had overcome Shaytaan and in the end, God stopped Ibrahim and give him a sheep to slaughter instead.

    The entire episode of the sacrifice is regarded as a trial that Ibrahim had to face from God. It is celebrated by Muslims on the day of Eid ul-Adha. (from Wikipedia) Back To Article

    • Muslims also state Abraham was in Mecca building the Kabba. That is just another of the many lies within Islam.

      It is Ishmael, Essua, and their decendents that really hate Israel. All others are just of the world, and hate morality which G-d gave Moses.

  114. I always forget the link. I don’t want anyone to think I’m plagarizing.

    http://www.rbc.org/questionsDetail.aspx?id=54226

  115. Leatherneck;
    Hate is such a strong word. Remember this is the Muslim’s social world as well as religious. They are born into it, just like Mormonism and Catholicism. They will pay a heavy price, maybe even their life to believe differently. They don’t have the freedom we do here and we might not have that for very much longer. Are we as Americans put in that position? Sometimes I have used words like stupid and demonic that aren’t very academic. I’m not going to persuade anyone to believe the way I do using those words. Isn’t that what we want, others to listen to us? That’s what I was trying to do in my post, use the Word of God and the love of God. God is so patient with all of us. Even the Muslims.

    • I know you are trying to be nice, and have folks that do not believe as you to hear you. It will not happen with the line of Ishmael, and Essua.

      Genesis 16:12

      “He (Ishmael) will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone’s hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward all his brouthers.”

      Essua married into Ishmael’s family line. Their hearts have a supernatural hate.

      Good luck, and don’t be mislead with their pagan religion, and political system of lies, hate, and murder. Islam is of Lucifer, and this world. Notice how Islam handled the four Americans handing out Bibles off the coast of Africa.

      • Leatherneck – you are right, Ishmael will always be at odds with Isaac, but Kitti rounds out that statment, by saying it is not about genes, but about rejecting the promise, and thus being “a child of the slave”. Especially, when you consider Paul clearly telling us that “there is no Jew or Greek… in Christ”.
        You look and Caan and Abel – this was the beginning of religion – man’s attempt to qualify himself to God by what he thought best, versus, trusting God’s way of doing things (an innocent must be sacrificed to pay for man’s sins). While these things that happened were literal events in history, they also show what is happening in the spiritual world.
        The Jews as a people reject the Messiah, and the propitiation for sins through Jesus. They, in this regard, are in the same class as the Muslims.
        Someone else made the point that just because the Bible says – “Look, this is how things are going to play out”, doesn’t mean that is the way things SHOULD play out, it is merely saying – “See what happens when man is in opposition to God and does things his way”.
        One must not be fatalistic – one must still remember that at the end of the Book, Christ, good, God, win! We really need to up our efforts to spread the Love of God (the Gospel), so that as many as possible will be saved.

        • G-d did not tell Cain, and Abel an innocent must be sacrificed. The reason Cain’s sacrifice was not accepted was due to Cain’s attitude with the sacrifice.

          Jews follow Noah, Abraham, and Moses. Muslims follow Muhammad who murdered, and raped. Plus, the Jews worship the Creator. Islam worships the god Sin, also known as the moon god.

          They are not the same, and one of the reasons Muslims will murder Jewish children in their beds.

          If G-d has moved you to spread his message inside the house of peace, you might want to make your will before you go. G-d would not want you to be stupid.

          • All through the Old Testament, God required an innocent animal to be sacrificed – this was a symbol of Christ, innocent of any sin, dying for us. But Cain wanted his efforts to be considered an acceptable sacrifice, like many people today. This is why his sacrifice was unacceptable – he wanted it to be on his own terms.
            As far as the salvation, God doesn’t care about race, if you believe in his Son Jesus, you will be saved (and I don’t mean just acknowledge him, like the Muslims say they do).
            And modern-day Jews reject the Messiah – the only way to God.
            There are many who call themselves Jews that murder Muslim, or Arab children in their beds, as well. Don’t kid yourself about this.
            There are many Muslims turning to Christ, and those who lead them are not being killed. But I agree with you that there are many murders and persecution by Muslims towards Christians. There is also intense persecution in Jewish run areas against Christians, as well. Non-messianic Jews hate Christians and consider Jesus an imposter and one to be despised.
            I still stand by what I said in my last comment.

            • murny

              Jews do not murder Muslim or Arab children in their beds. That is a bunch of crap. They are not on the same demonic level as Muslims in their fighting.

              There was a recent news story how Muslims came in and murdered an entire Jewish family in their beds, including a baby. So you got the story backwards.

              Muslims sacrifice their children and the children of others. Jews protect their children, and consider them a blessing. If you see any dead Muslim children, Muslims did it.

              Also, the intense history of persecution among Jews and Christians is due to the guilt of the Christians. They have killed in the name of Jesus at times. The Jews were the victims.

              Obviously, the Jews do not like the Christians for that, and are suspicious of them. But that has changed greatly, as evangelical Christians have stood by the Jews, and have helped, rather than persecute, them.

              • Oh, so now I see what this site is all about.
                I totally agree with you about the 666 thing, but your obvious bias regarding Jews makes it apparent what your views are.
                No matter what race or religious affiliation, evil is done by some who falsely carry ANY banner, and that includes Jews.
                I will not argue the point with you – it is obvious you have made up your mind. Just quote someone you seem to stand behind.
                “There are some who call themselves Jews, but are of the synagogue of Satan” Jesus of Nazareth.

                • Why are you getting so angry? You are welcome to post what you believe to be true. I would help defend your right to do so.

                  We agree on most everything you have posted. Most of us are unaware of any Jews murdering Muslim children. If you can post a correct news source, I will read it.

                  I do not think anyone is writing Jews are perfect, and Muslims are not. It is deeper than that. Jews want peace, Islam is at war with the world.

                  The Islamic Jesus they believe in was never murdered on a cross. The Jews do not argue the fact.

                  All I was writing was Cain, and Abel were never told what to bring to the Lord. Yes, thoughout the Bible I agree a perfect animal was used in place of the Christ who would come.

  116. Pure, and utter bullsh*t.

  117. for sure QURAN is correct as this is in its original form and in the very same QURAN , ALLAH said that to preserve and to mantain the QURAN in its ORIGINAL form is the duty of ALLAH . so no one could do any thing wrong with it . no one could CHANGE in it any thing while in bible there are already 2 testaments !!!!! so which one to blv ??

    • Muhammad could not read, or write, and the god, or Allah is the moon god Sin who can not hear, or see.

      Allah Akbar means the god is greatest. The god is greatest of what? The god is greatest of all other gods at the Kabba, or zero point. A place where Abraham never stepped foot on.

      How many gods were at the Kabba when Muhammad was growing up? Who is Muhammad’s Uncle named after?

    • hi Nadeem

      I think you have been taught these artificial questions and answers about the bible.

      The 2 testaments are not two versions that contradict each other.

      The new testament is a continuation of the old testament. It has new information given by Jesus.

      Jesus came to fulfill the old testament in his work. Everything he did agreed with what had already been written.

      So, you can think of the old testament as Part One of a story, and the new testament as Part Two.

  118. One big problem I have with the Quran is all the changes that were made by Mohammed himself. First he says the Torah (Old Testament) and the Gospel (New Testament) were true and faithful books (his main wife was catholic). Later, after misquoting the Old Testament and getting many of the biblical stories wrong (for example he thought that Miriam, the sister of Moses) was also Mary, the mother of Jesus) and after the local Jews who were reading the Torah to him got wind that he was calling himself a prophet began feeding him made up stories, quoted Suras that contradicted previous ones. For these he devised a system of hhierarchy where newer suras would supersede previous ones so he could make any changes he wanted.
    If you recall the “satanic Verses” he decided to include several other Arabic gods which were still very popular in order to bring in more followers (and collect more tithes), his more devout believers created an uproar and he was forced to redact those verses claiming that it was Satan rather than Gabriel who gave him the verses.
    And it was no coincidence that after he discovered that the Jews were feeding him disinformation that he received the Suras that called for the complete destruction of the Jews, after which he and his army attacked a Jewish village and beheaded every male and took the women to sell as slaves. Not exactly the humanitarian you would expect God to work thru. Satan maybe, but not God.
    Sorry, but I don’t trust the man and I don’t trust his book.

  119. A very interesting and resourceful site!!! BY the language used by each guest we can already pin point who is godly and who is not. We are to identify a person by his fruits right and so be it. Thanks Marianne may God bless you!

  120. this site is educational to those who are searching for the truth…it enlightens me…in searching knowledge.

  121. Hey people, I’m an 18 years old boy with questions. I’m searching my butt of since the age of ,lets say 12, to find the true religion to hold on to, and to dedicate my life to. But tell me, how can a supreme being like Allah, or God, or whatever, expect from a human, to find the truth, in a world with hundreds of religions, books, stories, whatever? How can we find the truth if everything that we read and listen to is bashed by somebody who claims their religion is the truth? And you will probably say ”Yeah, but thats the test, test the freaking test” How am I in freaks name possible of finding the truth in a world like this? How can God expect us to dedicate our life to him in circumstances like this. Its impossible. Its an neverending story. And I’m sure that no crime in the world is worse enough to deliver you a ETERNITY, listen well, an ETERNITY in hell. Not even the most evil being on this planet deserves that. I don’t know what the hell to believe anymore. I’m beginning to believe that their really is nothing. That death means the end. Because tell me, if you look deep in to your heart, and be honest to yourself, does this all makes any sense? And tell me, is it fair, that a human who does not believe in something that he has never seen, never had ANY form or proof of, only theories, deserves to BURN in hell, even if that person was a good person all his life? I think the reason of life, is much, much different from what you guys think. And another question, if a person is mentally ill, has a disorder in his brains, that makes it impossible for him to find the truth, will he also burn in hell? Do you believe God or Allah will give life to someone if that person is already doomed? And how is a human capable of behaving himself, and act completely sane all his life. That is not in our nature. If there is a God, which I actually do believe deep down inside, despite the fact of what I just wrote, then I don’t think he is the way you people claim him to be. I think he judges you by the choices you make, the love you give, I don’t think he bothers when you watch porn, or drink beer sometimes. He knew we’d be the way we are. Couse after all, he made us. We are his creation, he created the universe and every living being. And while writing this, I’m asking myself, does this makes sense? I’m just too damn confused, and that not because I’m only eighteen. And I know, their are so many theories, like the Illuminati etc. etc. etc., which makes it all even harder. Its an impossible task. You know what I think? I think everyone should just enjoy their lives, get the best out of it, give love, be good, and work hard. And not because you’re religion tells you to do so. But because it feels good to me. Cause be honest, if there was undeniable proof that there was no true religion ( I know you can’t proof but just imagine) that dead means the end, would you still be the person you are today? Would the pope, or sadam or bin laden, or a priest, or all the members of Al-Quida still be the way they are? I think you now the answer to that one. Life is too damn beautiful, although that doesn’t count for millions of people around the globe, to bother your whole life about what to believe.

    Before I end my endless blabbering, I want you to (If you’re planning on replying) to come with logical explanations, and do not just try to convince to convert in to whatever you believe, don’t come with theories which are meant to get me into your religion. Just say something that makes sense. Not something that is literally completely based on a book, or whatever. There have been kazillions of books written in the history of the freaking world. How can you expect me, to just blindly believe just one of them books? In which they claim to live in fish, or too create an entire universe, but in the end just focusing on one tiny planet among BILLIONS OF ZILLIONS of others. Where is the sense in creating such a ridiculously big universe when the only thing that bothers in the end is the Earth?

    Its like a puzzle that can’t be solved, because when you think you completed just only one piece of the puzzle, you come to the conclusion that your still missing an eternal amount of pieces.

    Life, is weird, and thats the end of my story (Haha, well it was actually a huge amount of random thoughts, and questions in my head)

    Thanks so much for reading.

    • hi gabriel

      I admire you for being so diligent in establishing standards to assure that truth is given you. An you are so young also. Many people older than you will accept things without trying to understand them, but you want to understand what you believe.

      We have a physical world and a spiritual world.

      The rules for the physical do not always apply to the spiritual. It is a different dimension and the rules can be vastly different.

      I am a scientist myself, and in the physical world, I always want proof to convince me that what I see or hear is real. I can measure and test my theory and see if it is true. Sometimes this takes a long time, because I get results I was not expecting. Then I have to take the surprise data into consideration and re-form my theory to include what I discovered in experimentation and measurements.

      in the spiritual world, however, the proofs are of a different kind than I what I am used to.

      I cannot always test and measure what is there. The spiritual world is limitless, and it cannot be measured or tested accurately.

      God gave us free will and a mind to use to seek him.

      This is important because we would otherwise just be robots in his service, and that is not what he wants.

      What he wants is a personal relationship with him.

      While other religions may seem to have good ethics or values taught, they lack this aspect that Christianity offers.

      This is why Jesus came to earth, to teach us of the Father God, and his love and willingness to forgive if we repent. Jesus also took our punishment for our wrongdoings, so that we would not have to suffer eternal punishment later. This was a tremendous act of love. so if we accept what he did for us, appreciate and love him back, then hell is cancelled, and our eternal destiny is assured.

      There is a deeper aspect to this. While we can read the bible and learn, it takes the presence of the holy spirit in us to properly interpret what is there. There is the literal level, but the spiritual meanings are more important. Once the spirit is with us, the words take on new meanings that we understand in our own spirit, but others don’t understand that lack the holy spirit.

      In this sort of “system,” you need to start out with some level of faith to get started. Then ask the holy spirit to lead you in understanding what you think and read. There will also be a time when you will sense the presence of Jesus and you can respond at that time. God knows when it is the right time for each of us. When you are ready, the holy spirit will move you, and you will feel inspired in a way I cannot explain yet.

      This is a personal experience, and it is meant to be that way. I hope you get this kind of experience soon. Understanding and logic will line up with experience once you have it.

      • Hi Gabriel,
        I have some good news for you, and some other news.
        I am a retired engineer with a minor in geology and earth sciences, so when I approached the bible I did so with a skeptical mind. I wanted proof that the words were true. Fortunately, God knew that might be a problem so He filled ⅓ the bible with prophecy, and not just end-time prophecy that no-one can prove yet. There are over 1500 prophecies that have already come true, many in the last 60 years. I once computed the odds of less than 20 prophecies in the Book of Revelation that have been fulfilled and it came to over 20,000,000,000,000 to 1. I stopped counting at that point since the mathematician in me was already convinced. Had I continued for all 1,500i my calculator would have exploded. The book can’t be based on luck. I am now convinced that the rest of the prophecy will also come true including the second coming of Jesus Christ and His 1000 year reign as King of Kings.
        I have also researched many bible stories and discovered that they have found the site of the parting of the Red Sea including 17th dynasty Egyptian chariot wheels on the sea floor. Also they have found a large wooden boat at the 11,000 foot level near Mount Ararat in Turkey. The Turkish government has declared it to be Noah’s Ark, and it is the exact dimensions as described in Genesis. Also the city of Sodom has been found – streets, Walls and buildings turned to white ash, with 2” balls of 98% pure sulphur (brimstone) embedded throughout the ruins.
        They have found Mount Sinai where Moses received the Ten Commandments, with a giant rock near the top that was split with evidence of water erosion coming from the base of the rock, but it is way above the local water table so the spring is completely unnatural.
        And not too long ago an archaeologist in Jerusalem found an underground chamber containing the actual Ark of the Covenant with the 10 commandment tablets and the staff of Aaron inside. He also collected a blood sample from the lid that dripped down from a crack in the ceiling. Above it on the surface he found the crack to be coming from an ancient Roman square hole used for crucifixions. He had the blood analyzed to see if it might be the actual blood of Christ and DNA tests showed it was Male, with only the chromosomes from one donor – Female. The owner had no human father.
        The man died without discovering the tunnel it was brought in from but his wife and kids have found it and are digging toward it (called Jeremiah’s Grotto) as I speak. I’m sure it will be revealed in God’s own time sometime before the second coming.
        Study these things and perhaps you will become as convinced as I am.
        But there is more good news. As the end-time prophecies unfold it will become clear to the entire world who the real God is and everyone will be given the chance to become a believer and to be saved. It will be your choice.
        More good news… don’t worry about hell – you were right – no loving God would create such a place. Ask any Jew if there is a hell and he will say NO. It was never part of their beliefs and Jesus did not teach it. It was an invention of the medieval church along with purgatory so they could sell indulgences to raise money to build their cathedrals.
        There is only eternal life and eternal death, except for Satan and his pals.
        Now, you are young and will be alive at the second coming and for the great tribulation which will precede it. Check out our blogs on Revelation and end-time prophecies and you will be able to check out the various interpretations and hopefully get close to the truth.
        Study all the theories and wait and watch. Don’t count on the illuminti or the Bilderbergs to create a New World Order and to put a chip into eveyones right hand. You may have to wait forever. Understand all the options and be ready for one or the other to unfold. When you see these thins come to pass, get ready. Make you choice between Allah, Jesus or Krishna based on what you are seeing. This applies to all people, including devout Christians. Those who hold to false prophesies will be lost, as will those who hold to false gods.
        Atheists will get what they expect – death, then nothing. Wonder how many will change their minds when the discover God is real.
        Anyway, good luck in your quest for truth. But fear not, if you don’t find it… it will find you.
        God bless.

        • James, also thank you for replying on my story.

          I will say now without knowing you, or without being related to you in any way. I Love You, haha. The examples you gave me, where absolutely mind blowing. Although I have not researched it yet, I will, and I believe that you are speaking the truth here. Thank you for sharing your wonderful knowledge with me. If you wanna see whats my perspective on things nowadays, (altough I wrote that shit yesterday, haha) look at my reply on mariannes message. Thank you so much, and God bless you.

        • Dear James,

          I enjoyed reading your comments quite a bit. Thank you.

          I was wondering if you could list a few of the prophecies that you believe have been fulfilled in the last 60 years. Of course not all 1500 but perhaps just the highlights.

          Many thanks.

          With respects,

          Abel

          • I saw a great lecture on 25 fulfilled prophecies about modern israel several years ago and while I’ve lost track of most of them there is a great example that you can verify on line.
            It was prophesied by Ezekiel that after Israel would become a nation again after the great gathering of dispersed Jews from around the world (1948) that God would bless the land and make it a fruitful nation. It also said the great ancient forests would be restored.
            After 1948, rainfall in the region tripled and the Jews began an agricultural revolution that had not been seen or even attempted there in over 2000 years. Now, only 60 years later, Israel now supplies 80% of all the fruit used in Europe. And where nothing grew before, there are now giant forests that have become national parks in Israel.
            Even in the bad soil of Gaza, Israeli farmers had created over 100 small family-grown farms growing all sorts of fruits and vegetables. When they gave Gaza back to the Palestinians, I predicted that God would no longer bless that land, and sure enough, within 10 months 90% of those farms were gone, many now being used as rocket launching sites against Israel. That was a few years ago and I’ll bet they are all turned to dust by now.
            Interestingly, the Palestinians know the prophecy as well. One big prophecy states that when Jesus returns He will descend from heaven onto the Mount of Olives and will enter Jerusalem through the Eastern Gate. So they bricked up the opening and to this day they post armed guards inside the walls to keep Jesus from fulfilling the prophecy when He returns.
            Just Google “bible prophecies” and you will find a wealth of info on the subject.

            Here are a couple of site to start with.
            The last one gives the mathematical odds of the predictions of Christ’s birth. Even getting ten in a row would be unbelievable, yet there are 48 mentioned in this article alone.

            100 fulfilled Bible prophecies
            60 Genuine divine Bible prophecies fulfilled

            I see signs of prophetic fulfillment almost every week in the news. For example, Ezekiel 38-39 predicts Israel’s enemies attacking it in the war of Gog in the near future. Many Islamic nations will be involved notably Turkey and Egypt, both friendly with Israel – until recently.
            Turkey (Gog) just expelled Israel’s ambassadors as retaliation for the boarding of their ships sending materials to Gaza last year, and the citizens of Egypt just attacked the Israeli embassy the other day, so it looks like when they take power, the treaty between Egypt and Israel that has been in place for some 30 years will be revoked. Both of these things had to happen for prophecy to be fulfilled. I have been expecting this for many years, and now it is happening.

            There is a lot of future prophecy all thru the bible, and the more I read, the more I realize it is all coming to pass. I don’t know of any other book that has this kind of information in them. No man could predict all this. Only the true creator of time and space could do it.
            I will tell you this, if current events start to turn around and takes the world in some other direction away from bible prophecy, I may start to have some doubts. If it turns out that the authors of the bible simply had a streak of 1500 lucky guesses, and now their luck has run out, I’ll be the first to speak out against them. But I’m not stupid. I’ve noticed that the sun has risen every morning since I can remember. How sure am I that it will rise tomorrow?
            Almost as sure as I am that God’s word is true.
            Bless you friend…

            • Could it be that you are trying to make events fit prophecy? How about the Christians in Palestine – you think they want to thwart Jesus return? And the Israelis plowing field after field and orchard after orchard in Gaza and destroying them, – could they be God’s handymen? I really hope you don’t think so. THAT is why so many farms are being destroyed. And if you are a Christian, you know that Jesus BOUGHT the inheritance for God’s children, God doesn’t unbless what he has blessed. Our receipt of God’s goodness is based on what Jesus earned, not on what we do.
              But the biggest problem with your interpretations of prophecy is that the Israelis have NOT been gathered yet – they are still very much dispersed. And the Scripture CLEARLY states this happens when the Messiah returns and that certainly has NOT happened. Might want to think again.
              Israel’s troubles are called the law of sowing and reaping. I firmly believe God will rescue her, but he will also hold her accountable, the prophecies of his punishment of her for acquiring her wealth by stealing and displacing others is very clearly laid out. This will come at the end of time when those who reject God face judgment. Those that turn and accept the Messiah will be his chosen. Those that are in control of Israel right now have hijacked her and are wreaking havoc in the land, with the intent to incite her enemies to destroy her.

              • I guess you never read the book of Joshua. When God gave the promised land to Israel after 40 years wandering in the desert, the land He promised was already occupied by a number of different peoples. God told Joshua to kill all the residents of Jericho and even provided divine assistance to help them to do the job. So I doubt that God is concerned about the displacement of modern Palestinians. In fact if you read the prophecy of Zechariah he mentions that “Gaza will be forsaken” and the Lord will be greatly displeased at that. And the same applies to the west bank which will also be given up according to the prophecy as well as half of Jerusalem. God is not happy that His people simply give away their inheritance. They may in fact be punished for that as was Joshua after he left two residents of Jericho alive after the battle.
                You are correct that Jews from around the world, even from the lost tribes, will be brought to Israel after Christ returns, but I was referring to the formation of the nation of Israel which had been prophesied for 2500 years. That event was spoken of by Jesus and it was to herald His imminent return – That generation shall not pass away by the time of His return.
                And as for the farms, the Palestinians are still trying to farm the land with no luck. It wouldn’t grow anything before the Jews returned and now that they are gone, it is back to the way it was for 2000 years. Plowing under a field does not keep it from producing. In fact, most farmers plow under their fields every season to fertilize the soil. Maybe its just that the Palestinians have never been good at farming – otherwise by this time all of Gaza would be covered in productive farms – they have been there for thousands of years after all.
                So what’s their excuse for the last millennium?

            • Oh, and Turkey RIGHTFULLY cut off ties with Israel for SLAUGHTERING TURKISH PEACE ACTIVISTS. Israel brought this on herself. There was absolutely no justification for killing those people – many were shot in the top of the head and the back, for goodness sake, indicating shots were fired as the soldiers were being lowered. NO WEAPONS, i.e. firearms were on board. I wish more would stand up for justice and God’s laws.
              “My name is blasphemed among the nations because of you!” (God, to the Jewish people.)
              Like I said, those in government over the land of Israel are setting the stage for her destruction, posing as Jews, as God’s people, when they are not!!!! Unlike many of the residents in Israel, who are protesting the Palestinian blockade, and the mistreatment of people in Israel, – these people are standing for righteousness, and these will be the people Jesus returns to find waiting to help in the liberation of Israel!
              And by the way, Prophecy is not God saying, this is what I am going to make happen. It is a warning of what will happen because of the path the world, and notably, Israel, is on.
              There is a universe of distance in thought, belief, character and behaviour between devout Jews and Zionists.

              • Dear maria,

                The turkish “peace” activists attacked the soldiers that were being air dropped onto their ships. If they were actually “peaceful” they would be alive today.

                Those ships could have easily been carrying weapons and components of weapons so that “activists” in the Gaza strip could continue their rabid and irrational assaults on Israel.

                Israel has the right and responsibility to protect its’ citizens. Enforcing the sanctions that Gaza has EARNED is one way to do this.

                It is a shame that this tragedy happened and I most certainly regret any needless loss of life. But the real tragedy is that Jews, Muslims and Christians have been fighting over who is the most peaceful and loving for a very long time.

                With the grace of God, we can all hope and pray this war will soon be over.

                May God guide you,

                Abel

              • maria

                you believe in a lot of propaganda, not truth.

                The turkish “peace” activists were liars. They had weapons on board to start more terror in Israel.. The antichrist will come from Turkey.

                You show no concern for the slaughter of Israelis.

                Israel protects its own people, so the death count is lower than Gaza.

                The Palestinian terrorists do not care about its people, do not protect them and kill them. That is why their death count is higher.

                Israelis do not take arab land, but arabs take Israeli land.

                Also, because of their perpetual hatred, evil, and violence, God has promised to destroy all Palestinians in Gaza.

              • Guess you’ve never has rockets raining down on your neighborhood. d
                In any case, it doesn’t matter whose fault it was, the fact is that God said it would happen. Turkey will lead the war of Gog. I predict (just me) that the Muslims will soon elect a new Caliph to unify them, and he will be located in the old Caliph’s offices in Ankara, Turkey. He will be the “Gog” of Magog from Ezekiel 38-39.
                The Muslim world is already discussing this matter and there is no reason to think they won’t go through with it. After all, they had a Caliph from the time of Mohammed until the 1930’s and the office was terminated against their wishes by the British and their WW1 allies.

                As I said, everything seems to be falling into place, for whatever reasons, and the prophecy is not going to just stop dead in its tracks no matter how much non-believers wish it won’t happen.

                Be prepared or be scared. It’s up to you. (everyone).

            • Dear James,

              Thank you for your detailed response.

              Interpreting prophecy can be difficult given the cryptic fashion in which it is typically written. Though I am a clever man, I often find the process mind-boggling. I shall do as you suggested and seek other sources on the internet.

              I personally believe that much of the destruction detailed in Revelations has been and will be brought about by the hand of man and man’s enemies, rather than directly by the hand of God. This world is a precious jewel in the galaxy. God promised Noah He would not flood the world again, and I believe Him. There is too much beauty here. Too many precious forms of life that are present nowhere else in the universe. And life is innocent of the sins of Man. I believe God’s justice will be precise: it is the justice of Man that is sloppy.

              These are just the simple beliefs of a simple man. But I pray they are correct.

              Many blessings,

              Abel

              • Abel,
                I think you are right about most prophecy being fulfilled by the acts of man. The 4 horsemen of the Apocalypse are due to man. Only a few acts will be of divine origin – just to let folks know that God is still around and in control – when He wants to be.
                Jim

      • I will reply to all of you guys in steps.

        Thank you so much Marianne for answering me. I’m highly grateful. I wrote that story yesterday evening, after a long brainstorm. I got kinda stuck. And it didn’t make any sense any more to me. I felt like, what the hell am I living for? I am not in any way suicidal and never will be, because I love life more than anything, but it was not making any sense when thinking about so many things. And I must be honest. You kinda made my day. Because, yes, I admit, I let The Holy Spirit enter my heart a long time ago. And since that day, I really feel like something is guiding me. Even if things look SO bad, it always ends up good for some strange reason. But although I knew that something was by my side, I still had so many questions. And just got frustrated at myself and the world in general. I didn’t mean to attack the Bible or religion in general. I was just a little bit angry, but not angry in the terms of physical anger, like throwing with things or something, but like, anger inside, angry at myself for being such a doubtful person. But after eading your story I realised how shallow my ideas and my thoughts were. And when I said those things about the Bible I did not mean it. Sometimes I just have moments of frustrations, like walking a endless road and not getting anywhere. But then I looked at the things that I actually already accomplished in life. It was so dark that I actually saw bolts of light, to talk metaphorically. I was looking at everything I lack, not at that what I have. And thats when I realised that life actually is making sense.

        Sorry if my grammar is in anyway worse, I’m actually from Holland.

        thank you so much. God bless you.

        • Gabriel

          You are a good guy, and you will be ok.

          You are seeking the truth, and you will find it.

          Lots of love and blessings to you.

    • the true religion is islam…i hve the proof 2this…look ol the world the religion which iz being humilieted is islam y? bcoz is thje real religion…muslims are killed by christians evry day bt u cant heard christians are killed by muslims…..in qur an Allah says that he is the only God bt in bible jesus ddnt say that he is the God..

      • dear maher

        you have it backwards. christians (kafirs) are killed by muslims every day…and this has been true for 1400 years.

        jesus said int he bible that the Father is God and that he is God’s son.

        Islam is at war with the world. It wants to rule and dominate, and other peoples do not agree.

      • Just where are these Muslims killed by Christians? There may be some Muslims that are retaliated against by their attacking other people. Muslims are the ones who murder, kill, rape, falsly imprison and steal in the name of their religion, their prophet and their version of God. There are no Christians putting Muslims to death for their faith or for not being Christian. That has not happened for hundreds of years. But courts of law in Muslim countries still are at this time, imprisoning and executing Christians for their faith. Muslims out of courts due to the teachings of crazy ranting Imams are murdering, bombing and crucifying Christians for their faith regularly these days. Christians have not killed anyone over faith issues for many hundreds of years. There are some soldiers at war that may happen to be Christians, but also most western soldiers come from many faiths and do not fight wars over religion. They fight secularly for what they think is right or what they think is wrong. When a country or a group of people beg for our help and we feel they deserve it, we go help them. We stood up for the Muslims in Yugoslavia against the Serbs, Afghanistan against the Russians who were slaughtering them. In Kuwait and Saudi Arabia from Sadaam Hussein who was invading their countries and wanted to rule over them. Then Sadaam Hussein when he had tortured, gased and murdered over 2 million people in Iraq and Iran. But time and time again, history gets “re-written” or twisted into an alternate form by Islamists to suit propaganda needs. I am so angry that our government is talking about giving aid to Syrian rebel groups because all we will get for our giving them money, aid, the lives of our brave enlisted is ingratitude for “sticking our nose where it doesn’t belong”. We hear the cries of all those civilians being attacked and have wanted to help all along, but everytime we do, we get accused of “invading” and murdering Muslims and instigating war even though the war was going on long before we step in to try to put a stop to it all. We should have let Sadaam Hussein and his maniac sons continue to torture, gas, murder his own people and Iranians. We should have let the Serbians drive the Muslims out of Yugoslavia, we should have let the Russians mow down the Afghans. Because all we get is Muslims plotting against us saying we started it all in the first place and invade their countries. Muslims seem to re-write history continuously. Why should money come out of my paycheck away from my family’s needs to give aid to people who are eternally ungrateful, full of misguided hate and want to kill me, my family and my country? Why????

  122. Gabriel
    You do not want me to use one of those books to teach you so I will use what is tangible. Have you ever taken a science class and learned about Human DNA? DNA is what allows us to reproduce, and grow. The fundamental aspect of DNA is that it is a “code”, unique to each of us that we pass down to our children. If everyone is born with this “Code” then where did it begin? All data begins with someone creating that data. I say this to you so that you will understand that there is a Creator/ God looking over his creation. So at this point, you could be a muslim, a hindu or a bhudist, or jewish etc. as all religions believe in humans being created. The question you will need to ask, however, is which religion holds the “TRUTH”.
    If there is a god, which religion believes in the True God, Creator of all things? You are at an age when you are Just learning about what life has to offer you, and you are now making choices that count either for or against you at Judgement day. I suggest that you start to take those choices “seriously”, as life is not a Joke. The fact that you came to this sight shows that you are searching for more. More information that will allow you to make those choices. That was not an accident, as you are probably considering making the “wrong” choices. If you believe that there is a God, then you must also believe that their is reason why we were created. You also must believe that there is a right and wrong way to live.

    In this respect, I caution you, as there is a place called Hell, and it is for those who make the wrong choices. I say this not to make you afraid, but that you should not take your choices lightly. If you would like I could show you the “way” which leads to God. Then you can choose to accept or reject it.

    • Also thanky you very much for replying on my story.

      For you I have the same thing to say as I said to Marianne. Look at my reply to her post, to see what I mean.

      Thank you kindly,

      And may God bless you.

  123. Thank you Marianne for your kind reply. Now that I have all that of my chest, I would still love to debate with you people about some things. This is a very enlightening forum. And I think it should not be a ”Christianity against Islam” or vice versa. Because when I look at some posts, (not all of course) that seems to be the case. I would like to openly debate with each other.

    So if I ever again have questions, on my path to knowledge (Haha, almost seems like some sort of adventure, which it is actually) I will post my questions on this forum. So you guys will probably hear from me in the future.

    Greetings Gabriel:D

    • Gabriel

      Well, you are on a page that discusses the differences between Christians and Muslims, so you will see some arguments here.

      There are also some science pages, and New Age, and other religious pages. It is a real mix.

      But I have over 500 pages on this site, with just Christian topics.

      But Ha!

      Even Christians argue about things and what is true, so all you have to do is join in.

      I let people disagree with each other, in order to make them think more about what they believe. I ask people to prove what they believe.

      So during the debate process, they can clarify what they believe and why.

  124. this is such a pile of sh*t.

    you guys are nothing but haters spreading false information.

  125. The Muslims are mostly correct, the Christians would not know if their arse was on fire.
    I have not seen here any referals to Enki, Marduk or the Elders. Or even Anu. People of Ur were not Gods
    They have long ago forgotten but will shortly remember.
    I would be called an ‘Agnostic Athiest’

    • dear paul

      Agnostics and atheists are welcome here too, even though it is a christian site.

      I would disagree that Muslims are mostly correct, but agree that Christians can be really uninformed.

      The idea of this site is to change that, and hopefully see everyone correct, and everyone informed.

      References to Enki etc is a different topic and each page is devoted to on topic usually, even though people get off topic a lot.

      i have about 550 topics and only a slight reference to them so far.

      I have one person who is from that race / culture who is writing a post on Gate Walking for me but he has not gotten back to me yet.

  126. islam is the most purest religion of all.the religion has truth in it including proof.i dont know what number “666” represents but i do really believe in “ALLAH” the creator as well as destroyer of everything.i believe that god has no form and god is not like man or human,but most religions worship their god in the form of an idol…..so what is the difference between an idol and a statue of nothing? do you think there is no difference between man and god?
    guys just think and understand before you point out any further mistake in Islam
    Qur’an is the holy book of Muslims sent by Allah himself(mentioned in Qur’an).there want be any mistake since it is the book by ALLAH and he doesnt make any mistake as he is a god.This is the difference between god and human.
    it is not the religion islam which is wrong it is the people kafirs who are wrong,who have devil in them.
    INSHALLAH you will understand this in your life time or after your death.

    .

  127. To be honest, not the entireQur’an was written by Allah. Don’t forget the satanic verses which according to Mohammed were given by Satan in disguise. He told his followers to ignore those verses, but you can’t unring a bell. Makes me wonder how many other verses can be attributed to the devil in disguise. After all, Mohammed apparently couldn’t tell the difference between Satan and the angel Gabriel, so if I was a supreme court judge I would be forced to throw out the entire book.
    No wonder why Muslims make poor judges.
    Just kidding…
    Have a nice 9/11

  128. if you(James) are so sure about that the entire Qur’an has not been written by Allah then give me the proof ,which chapter and which verse says you that.i would like to know.Then how do you believe that the bible is true

    i think its the nature of non Muslims to praise your religion by lying.

    why the hell do you want to comment on others,their god,their messenger so this is what your god says you to do?

    the comments all are rubbish.i am really telling you all one more word about the religion Islam,our Allah,our messengers you guys are really gonna pay for this.

    • heena

      I agree that James was too harsh.

      While I do not believe as you do, I still allow you to express your views, as long as they are done peacefully.

      As for errors in the Quran, or any other text, those issues can be explored by doing a search for them on the internet.

      But this was not the intent of this page. I found it interesting that a Muslim site would say the 666 was a holy number, when the bible says it represents the antichrist. This is one point where Islam and Christianity have opposite views.

      • I am a simple man with simple beliefs. I have read much of the bible but only read parts of the Qur’an (so I will primarily address the contents of the bible). Much of what I have read is merely history, not religion (one does not need to be divinely inspired to write history – many contemporary authors have succeeded quite well without “divine” guidance).

        The writers of the Bible at many times were confounded by God’s intent and did strange things in their attempts to appease Him (slaughtering villagers that had taken them in, practicing genocide, etc).

        Still these writers are believed to have been divinely inspired and every word that they wrote true. But if God was guiding their hand, they would not need wonder about His will.

        People, make too much of interpreting both books when what God wants is simple. It was written in His commandments: thou SHALT NOT KILL. Seems simple enough. If someone is telling you to kill (in His name) it is time to question the messenger.

        Sincerely,

        Abel

  129. heena et.al.,
    Just so you know, I am equally harsh to misinformed Christians elsewhere on this site, so pardon my sarcastic wit, but I have nothing but love in my heart for all mankind, but as you mention, eventually, some people are going to have to pay for their beliefs. In the Koran it says in the end time, all Jews will be killed and Christians will be given a chance to convert to Islam or else they will be killed as well.
    We have a similar belief. At the second resurrection everyone who ever lived will be brought back and taught the ways of God and if they turn to Him they will receive eternal life and if not, they will simply go back to being dead. It will be their choice although Satan will be loosed a short time to tempt them one last time, just to sort the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.
    But Muslims will not be unceremoniously executed because of their faith. They will get their chance to repent like everyone else, even apostate Christians with pagan beliefs that have infiltrated the church (and even Islam) over the centuries.
    So I get a lot of people mad at me and I’m cool with that. I’m only trying to prepare them for the future, as I understand it. If I’m wrong, I will have wasted a bit of my spare time in this life, but if I’m right I will have done a service to my God and the people I have reached.
    So my mantra is “Ignore me now but hear me later” and let time sort out who is right and who is wrong.
    Bless…

    • James,

      God is all powerful. At His hand are the armies of heaven and the angel of death (the destroyer). When the time comes, He will not need the assistance of men to wipe this world clean (if that is His will). Jesus never lifted a sword and stayed Peter’s hand when he sought to defend him. In doing that, he set an example that all men should try to follow.

      Taking a life even in self-defense or the defense of others is a great burden to carry. Jesus knew this, as do I (all too well).

      Keep the faith and keep God’s commandments. This applies to Christians, Jews and Muslims. They are brothers of the book. Even Mohammed believed they should live together in peace, not fight like children. It is unfortunate (but predictable) that Muslims now fight each other as well as Christians and Jews, rather than merely fighting the faithless (infidels). But it is has always been easier for men to hate rather than to love. To talk like the faithful, rather than walk like them.

      Mohammed made a serious error in judgement when he told his people to spread their faith by the sword. Now we have wolves in sheep’s clothing. God can tell them apart, but how can people? I know it was not God who told him this; whether it was is own words or Satan’s, I cannot say either. But I can say it IS evil to kill (except in self defense or as an act of justice) and a violation of God’s most sacred commandment.

      Those that carry God’s commandments in their hearts will know I speak the truth, those who carry them in their mind, might very well seek to slay me for speaking such truths openly.

      May God always guide you,

      Abel

  130. i am just 14 and i have not done any research on Christianity,their beliefs,teachings etc.So i hardly don’t understand what you each say.but i do understand that many of you are using so many names to describe our god(eg: moon god sin by leatherneck) and we our moon god worshipers.its not true according to me.And who said that our messenger was a murderer and a rapist nonsense.going to some stupid website and you just post a comment.ALLAH U AKBAR means Allah is the greatest of all.He knew that people kaafirs especially would create new religion and will go against him,so he has said that he is the greatest of other gods,elements of this world which is going to be destroyed one day.

    • Dear heena, You are young and you do not yet know that much about the idealogy that was invented by Mohammed. For thousands of years in that region, there was a pagan god, one of many worshipped by the local arabs and persians named Allah, it was a moon god. You can google the ancient history of that area and it’s ancient religions to find out for yourself. Never take anyone’s word for granted. Seek for yourself. You say that it is not true for you. But what if you were duped, tricked or not told the truth by people that you trust. Don’t always blame them, they were lied to also, but in this age of modern communication, everyone has access to the truth and doesn’t have to be brainwashed any more. If you read the full Qu’ran and the Haddith and know anything about psychology, it is easy to see what frame of mind this Mohammed was in and what he was really about. Islam really has not much to do with peace or following God. It’s all about Mohammed. The rest of the world believes that a fallen angel (demonic) was influencing Mohammed. Mohammed even says so many times. Allah refers to a pagan moon God, not God the Creator. In Christianity, we believe in the Old Testament books and The New Testament books as they compliment each other, many of the prophesies from the Old coming true in the New and now. Jesus came down from Heaven to be our Messiah and to pay the ultimate price for our sins and transgressions. He died on the cross, visited Hell and rose from the dead 3 days later and after teaching the believers that through Him is the Kingdom of the Father, He ascended into Heaven in front of everyone there. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. Muslims teach that Jesus was born of a virgin, like we do and that he will come to judge mankind but yet they think he was just a prophet –which is entirely silly. No being can judge mankind unless He is God, but Muslims won’t admit that. They are just so terribly confused in their thinking. After much studying fully all books from both religions, you will eventually conclude that prophesies from the Bible actually come true and that Mohammed just made up a bunch of stuff, but only then will you find your way to a personal relationship with God the Father, Jesus His Son and the Holy Spirit which flows from them and within us. They are all one and they love you.

  131. Heena
    There is only one way to the one true God, Yahweh, or the “existent one”. And that is through Jesus. John 14:6 says “I am the WAY, the truth, and the life. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER (God) EXCEPT THROUGH ME”

    Mohammad cannot do this, neither can shiva, or Bhudda, or any “man”.

    If you want to understand Christianity, read the Gospel of John. (you have to find a “christian” version, and not one that has been altered by the Imams of your faith)

    You are still young, but as you get older, you will either follow man (Mohammad) or follow God (Jesus), The choice is as simple as that, and as complex as that! The only place fallen man can lead you to is Hades, and the devil.
    May God bless you in your quest for TRUTH.

  132. Even the Christians in Palestine are gonna be wiped out by God, eh Marianne? There are many innocent civilians in Gaza, who are being tormented by the Isrealis, some of them born-again Christians.
    You profess to believe Jesus died for people’s sins, and he did “not only for our sins only, but for the sins of the whole world”. These people that are being killed in Palestine, many of them women and children, are not evil in any way. They are crying out to God for protection, and besides, God told the Israelis to be kind to the strangers in their land.
    Oh well, I know God is just, and the true Israel is those who are circumsised in the heart, It is not based on race. I look forward to the day when Israel as a nation embraces the Messiah and turns from the evil ways she is practicing.
    God will be faithful to those who put their trust in Him, and walk in love.

    • Maria

      There are very few, if any, Christians in Gaza. Most have left to stay with Israel for protection. Also, to call oneself christian is not enough. One has to live the life of one, and not participate in the hatred and lies that Gazans demonstrate. Just as you are influenced by the lies and are deceived, so any so called “christians” in Gaza may also be.

      Jesus died for those who would repent. Not everyone will repent, and so they will not be saved. Gazans are evil and violent. They do not repent. They have been brain washed, as you are, by their leaders. So they cry out to God, as they commit murder on the Israelis? they will surely be damned by God.

      As I said, God will destroy Gaza and give it to the Israelis. It has already been prophesied, and it will come to pass. he will also clean out the muslims from the temple mount, as their mosque is an abomination. Gazans claim they are of the ancient canaanites. If so, their fate has been declared.

      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/bible-predicts-final-fate-of-gaza-and-palestinians/

      They will be condemned for their ancient hatred. They have entered this land which is not theirs and claimed it as their own, then tried to kill off the rightful owners. Arafat, an Egyptian, came in to start all this. now he is in hell for what he did.

    • The only innocents in Gaza tormented are the muslim women tormented by their husbands. Domestic violence is rampant in the muslim homes there.

  133. When Christ returns, God will not be wiping out anyone. He will be wiping out “Babylon” which is not, as some Christians believe, Islam, or cities in Islamic countries or any people in particular.
    Babylon represents pagan practices in modern Christianity. That is what will be destroyed, not people – only practices. Many Christians think they will be saved and all other religions will be destroyed, but they are wrong. The true God will make His presence known well before the second coming. Everyone on earth will hear His voice and know that He is the one and only God. Many on earth will cry out to their own Gods to come save them from the God of Israel, but there will be no response. Many will still not believe and will gather at Armageddon to make war against Christ when He returns. Now those guys WILL be wiped out, whoever they are.
    It’s going to be a rough time for everybody – Christians included.
    As for the peaceful Palestinians, they swore on Allah that they would stop firing rockets into Israel at the end of 2010, just to prove to Israel that they are not aggressors. Here is a list of rocket firings so far this year:
    January

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip launched 17 rockets and 26 mortar shells were towards Israel in 25 separate attacks. This represented a decline in number of projectiles fired from December 2010, which saw 15 rockets and 38 mortar shells launched in 30 separate attacks.[11]
    January 1
    In the evening, a mortar shell fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed near a kibbutz in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. A woman suffered from shock, but no physical injuries or damage were reported. The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for mortar attacks that day, saying that it had fired four mortars at two military posts in Israel and adding that it would “cling to the option of resistance and confront the Israeli occupation”. That night, Israel responded to the attack and to a separate attack two days earlier with airstrikes on two targets in the Gaza Strip, described by the Israel Defense Forces as a Hamas terrorist activity center in the north and a weapons manufacturing facility in the center of the territory. Palestinians said that two people were injured.[12][13]
    January 2
    A projectile fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip hit the Eshkol Regional Council.[14] The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for attacks that day, saying they had fired several projectiles at Israeli targets late at night in response to “ongoing Israeli aggression against the people of Gaza”. However, an Israeli military spokeswoman said she was not aware of any shells launched from Gaza at that time.[15]
    January 4
    In the afternoon, a Qassam rocket fired by Palestinians in the northern Gaza Strip exploded near a kibbutz in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. No injuries were reported, but several greenhouses sustained damage. No militant group claimed responsibility. Israel responded that day with airstrikes on a Hamas militant training facility in the central part of the Gaza Strip and a smuggling tunnel in the south. No injuries were reported.[16][17][18][19][20]
    January 5
    Two mortar shells fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in open areas in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[21] Five additional mortars hit the Eshkol Regional Council that day, according to the IDF website.[22]
    After nightfall, a Qassam rocket hit an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[19][23]
    January 6
    In the morning, a mortar shell fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fell in the Sdot Negev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[24] The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for mortar attacks at that time, saying that it had fired three shells at an Israeli military base near Kissufim. However, an Israeli military spokeswoman said she was not aware of any attacks in that area.[25] Israel responded that night with airstrikes on two sites in the Gaza Strip, which it identified as a Hamas terror base in the north and an infiltration tunnel in the south intended for carrying out attacks against Israelis. No injuries were reported.[26][27]
    January 7
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a projectile at Israel. No injuries or damage were reported.[28]
    January 8
    At about 2:20 pm, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired four 181-millimeter mortar shells at Israel, all of which landed in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. One of the shells hit a residential area within an agricultural community in the area. Three Thai foreign agricultural workers were injured, one seriously, one moderately and one lightly, all by shrapnel. A number of other people suffered from shock. The shell also killed a cat nearby. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, saying that it had fired six mortar shells at an Israeli military post near Nahal Oz.[2][29][30][31][32]
    Towards the evening, an additional Palestinian mortar shell landed in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[29]
    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket which landed in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[33][34]
    Within an hour, Palestinians fired a second Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council. Truck driver Yitzhak Zaafrani was lightly wounded in the face and his truck was damaged.[33][34]
    January 9
    In the morning, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[34][35] Israel responded overnight to the attacks of the previous two days with airstrikes on two terror activity targets in the Gaza Strip. No injuries were reported.[36] According to DEBKA, the targets were Hamas underground command centers recently built by engineers from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard.[37]
    January 10
    In the evening, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired three rockets at Israel. One hit an industrial area in Ashkelon, while the other two fell in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[38]
    Later, Palestinians fired another Qassam rocket which landed in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[39]
    January 11
    In the morning, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a rocket which exploded south of Ashkelon. No injuries or damage were reported.[40] Israel responded overnight to the attacks of the previous two days with airstrikes on two Hamas compounds and a Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant training base.[41]
    January 16
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired three mortar shells at Israel, all of which exploded in an open area near a kibbutz in the Sha’ar HaNegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red siren did not sound.[42]
    January 17
    In the morning, a Qassam rocket fired by Palestinians in the northern Gaza Strip exploded in an orchard near a community in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[43]
    January 18
    In the early afternoon, four mortar shells fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in open areas in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[44]
    January 21
    A mortar fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in an unspecified location in the western Negev. No injuries or damage were reported.[45]
    January 25
    In the evening, a Qassam rocket fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fell in an open area in the Sdot Negev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[46]
    Later in the evening, a second rocket exploded in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[47]
    January 31
    A Qassam rocket fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip exploded in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[48]
    A Grad rocket landed near a residential neighborhood in the city of Netivot. The explosion disrupted a wedding in the vicinity of the landing site; four people suffered from shock, and damage was caused to a road and a parked car. Another Grad rocket exploded near the city of Ofakim a few minutes later, but no injuries or damage were reported.[48]
    Israel responded on 2 February with an airstrike on a smuggling tunnel under the Gaza-Egypt border. No injuries were reported.[49] Israel also submitted a letter of complaint to the United Nations.[50]
    [edit]February

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians fired 6 rockets and 19 mortar shells at Israel in 14 separate attacks.[51]
    February 4
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket into the Sdot Negev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red alarm did not sound.[52]
    February 6
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired two mortar shells into the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council.[53]
    After nightfall, two additional mortar shells landed in open areas in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported in either incident.[53]
    February 8
    At around 11 am, two mortar shells launched by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in a kibbutz in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. One projectile landed in a parking lot, damaging a car. A second landed in a nearby field and damaged a hose. No injuries were reported.
    Shortly after 2 pm, two more mortars were fired at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council from the northern Gaza Strip. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red rocket alert system sounded during both attacks and residents of the area were asked to temporarily remain in their homes. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, saying the attacks were directed at a military post east of Khan Younis.[54][55][56]
    Israel responded to the attacks with airstrikes on an infiltration tunnel in the northern Gaza Strip, a rocket manufacturing facility, and a third target near Jabaliya. Palestinian sources said that eight people were lightly injured.[57]
    February 9
    The Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine said that its militants fired a projectile at an Israeli military jeep in the morning. The Israel Defense Forces said they were not familiar with the incident.[58]
    February 14
    Around noon, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket into the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[59] The attack, which occurred after several days of relative calm, coincided with the swearing of Benny Gantz as new Chief of Staff of the Israel Defense Forces. Ilana Curiel of Israel News speculated that the attack was a signal by Palestinian terror groups that they would not “make life easy” for him.[60]
    February 23
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired three mortar shells at a kibbutz in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. One of the projectiles exploded near a soccer field, another near a pool and the third outside the border fence. No injuries were reported. The Color Red alarm did not sound. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for mortars fired that day, saying it launched two shells at IDF forces which crossed the fence into the Gaza Strip.[61][62]
    Around 9:30 pm, Palestinians fired three Grad missiles at Beersheba, one of Israel’s largest cities. One of the missiles hit the backyard of a home in a residential area, causing extensive damage to surrounding houses and vehicles. Four residents – two adults and two children – were treated for shock. No physical injuries were reported. The Color Red alarm sounded through the city mere seconds before the explosion. This marked the first time Beersheba was hit by Palestinian rockets since the 2009 Gaza War.[62][63][64]
    Israel responded that day with an airstrike on a Palestinian Islamic Jihad cell in eastern Gaza City, wounding three militants. This was followed by several airstrikes on military targets throughout the Gaza Strip, which caused heavy damage to buildings. The following day, a further airstrike on a Hamas vehicle in the Al Salaam area of Rafah killed one person and wounded several others.[65][66]
    February 26
    A mortar shell fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[67] Israel responded with airstrikes on Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad militant facilities in the Gaza Strip. Four Palestinians were lightly injured.[68][69]
    February 27
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red alarm did not sound.[68][69]
    A mortar shell was fired from the northern Gaza Strip Israel but landed in Palestinian territory near the Erez border crossing. No injuries or damage were reported. Residents of three towns in the Shaar HaNegev and Ashkelon Coast regional councils were requested to remain in their protected spaces for fear of additional attacks.[70]
    [edit]March

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired 38 rockets and 87 mortar shells at Israel in 47 separate attacks.[71]
    March 3
    During the night, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a projectile at the Sdot Negev Regional Council. The Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for the attack, saying its militants had fired a C5K rocket at an Israeli military tower near Kissufim. “We choose the option of resistance as the means to attain our national rights, and promise the Palestinian people that we will continue resistance against Israeli forces,” a statement from the group said.[72]
    March 4
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired two Qassam rockets at Israel. One exploded in the Sdot Negev Regional Council and the other apparently landed within Palestinian territory. No injuries or damage were reported.[73]
    March 5
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a rocket at an unspecified site in the western Negev. No injuries or damage were reported. Israel responded with airstrikes on Hamas militant posts in Zeitoun, Deir al-Balah and Khan Younis. No injuries were reported.[73][74]
    March 9
    After nightfall, a Qassam rocket fired by Palestinians in the Gaza Strip landed in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[75]
    March 16
    Palestinians fired a rocket into Sderot. No injuries or damage were reported.[76] Israel responded with an airstrike on a Hamas compound in the Gaza Strip, killing two Hamas militants and injuring one.[77]
    March 18
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired four mortar shells at Israel. Some fell in unspecified locations in the western Negev,and some fell within the Gaza Strip.[78]
    Around 4 pm, Palestinian terrorists fired six additional mortar shells into the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[78][79]
    March 19
    In the early morning, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired 54 mortars on Israeli communities within a period of 15 minutes. A man and his wife were wounded by shrapnel as they fled toward a safe zone. Several homes on a kibbutz were badly damaged. One mortar shell landed on the rooftop of a kindergarten, but the building was empty because it was Shabbat, the Jewish day of rest. Hamas claimed responsibility for the attack, saying it was a response to the death of two of the group’s militants in an Israeli airstrike several days earlier.[80][81][82][83][84] According to The Telegraph, the unusually extreme attack by Hamas was an attempt by the Islamist group to divert its people’s wrath and to avoid being engulfed by the concurrent popular uprisings in the Middle East.[85]
    Israel responded with airstrikes and tank fire, killing one Hamas official and injuring four others.[81]
    March 20
    On the Jewish holiday of Purim, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a mortar and two Qassam rockets at Israel.[82]
    Later in the day, Palestinians fired a Grad missile at southern Ashkelon. One elderly woman was lightly injured, and several other people suffered from shock. Sirens were heard in the city.[86] British Minister for the Middle East and North Africa Alistair Burt condemned Hamas for its attacks on Israel as well as its assaults on Palestinian protesters in the Gaza Strip, saying: “Hamas should not think that while the attention of the world is elsewhere we will turn a blind eye to their actions. The indiscriminate targeting of Israeli citizens, as they celebrated the Jewish festival of Purim, is unacceptable.”[87]
    March 21
    After nightfall, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[88]
    March 22
    Around 4 pm, Palestinians fired four mortar shells at Alumim and Sa’ad. No injuries or damage were reported.[89][90]
    In the evening, Palestinians fired a Grad missile from the northern Gaza Strip and several mortar shells at Ashkelon; the Grad landed south of the city. No injuries or damage were reported.[91]
    In the evening, the Israel Defense Forces attacked a Palestinian terror cell in the midst of preparing to fire a long-range rocket into Israel, killing four terrorists. Israeli military sources said the same terrorists were behind the Grad missile attack on Beersheba on 23 February.[92]
    March 23
    During the night, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Grad missile at Ashdod, which landed in an open area south of the city. This was the first time Ashdod, one of Israel’s largest cities and relatively far from the Gaza Strip, was targeted since the Gaza War. Sirens were heard in the city and in nearby Gedera and Kiryat Malachi. No injuries or damage were reported. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[93]
    At 5:30 am, Palestinians launched another Grad missile at Beersheba. The rocket hit a street in the midst of a residential area. A 56-year-old man was injured by shrapnel that penetrated his third-floor apartment, and three other people suffered from shock. Several buildings, including a synagogue, were damaged. Fearing additional attacks, the city closed schools and universities for the day. Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility, saying, “This is an initial reaction to the Zionist crimes against our people in Gaza.”[90][94][95]
    Four hours later, Palestinians fired a third Grad missile at Beersheba, hitting an open area within the city.[90][95]
    Later, Palestinians fired seven mortar shells at the Eshkol Regional Council and one at the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. Some of the shells contained white phosphorus.[96]
    US President Barack Obama condemned the attacks as well as a recent Palestinian terrorist bombing in Jerusalem “in the strongest possible terms”, saying that “there is never any possible justification for terrorism”.[97] Israel responded to the attacks with airstrikes on terrorist training sites, weapons-smuggling tunnels under the Gaza-Egypt border, and an abandoned rocket launcher. No injuries were reported in the airstrikes.[98]
    March 24
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired twelve projectiles at Israeli towns throughout the day, reaching deep into the country. The Israeli cities of Beersheba, Ashdod and Kiryat Gat kept schools closed for the day, fearing additional attacks. The Ashkelon municipality held classes as usual, but the local Parents’ Committee urged residents to keep their children at home.[98][99] EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton condemned the attacks as well as the recent Palestinian terrorist bombing in Jerusalem in “the strongest terms”, adding that “attacks on any civilians are completely unacceptable in any circumstance”.[97] Details of some of the attacks:
    During the night, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket at the western Negev. No injuries or damage were reported.[98]
    In the morning, Palestinians fired a second Qassam rocket which landed in an open area south of Ashkelon. No injuries or damage were reported.[98]
    Shortly before 11 am, a third Palestinian rocket fired from the northern Gaza Strip exploded in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[98]
    Around 12:15 pm, a fourth Palestinian Qassam rocket landed in an open area in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[98]
    Just before 2 pm, Palestinians fired a fifth rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[98]
    Two Grad missiles were fired at Ashdod. One struck south of the city and the other to its north; the explosion of the second projectile was heard in Yavne. The Color Red alarm was heard throughout the city, as well as in Ashkelon, Gedera and Gan Yavne.[100][101][102]
    A few hours later, a rocket landed in Sderot and a mortar exploded in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. The Color Red alarm sounded. No injuries or damage were reported.[102][103]
    In the evening, Palestinians fired six mortar shells at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[104]
    Israel responded during the day with airstrikes on Hamas buildings in the Gaza Strip.[104]
    March 26
    Early in the morning, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired two rockets into Israel. One landed in the Eshkol Regional Council, exploding three yards from a home in one of the area’s communities. The house was severely damaged but the eight family members who were sleeping inside were unharmed. Another home was moderately damaged. The second rocket landed in an open area in an unspecified location. No injuries were reported.[105][106]
    In the evening, a third rocket hit the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[105][107]
    March 27
    A Palestinian Islamic Jihad cell near Jabaliya was attempting to launch a projectile into Israel when it was targeted by an Israeli airstrike. Two PIJ militants were killed and three PIJ militants were wounded.[108]
    March 29
    Palestinians fired an unspecified number of Qassam rockets at Sderot, but all the projectiles fell within the Gaza strip. The Color Red alarm sounded in the Israeli city.[109] Israel responded the following day with airstrikes on a Palestinian Islamic Jihad cell, killing one PIJ terrorist and wounding another, and on a smuggling tunnel in the southern Gaza Strip.[110]
    March 31
    Around 7:30 pm, Palestinian terrorists in the northern Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket that landed in an open area south of Ashkelon. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red alarm sounded in nearby communities.[111]
    [edit]April

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired 87 rockets and 57 mortar shells at Israel in 63 separate attacks.[112]
    April 5
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. Israel responded with airstrikes on two militant infiltration tunnels in the northern Gaza Strip. Palestinians said that four people were lightly to moderately injured.[113] The following day Israel carried out additional airstrikes on another militant infiltration tunnel in the north and three smuggling tunnels in the south. No injuries were reported.[114]
    April 7
    Main article: Hamas school bus attack
    Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Kornet anti-tank missile at a school bus in the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council, outside Sa’ad. In the explosion, 16-year-old boy Daniel Viflic was critically injured with a shrapnel wound to the head, and the driver was moderately injured.[115][116][117] The boy died of his wounds ten days later.[118] Hamas issued a press release that evening claiming responsibility, calling the incident a retaliation for a previous Israeli strike that killed three Hamas leaders and vowing further attacks.[119] The fact that the Russian-made Kornet is a laser-guided weapon indicated that the school bus was intentionally targeted.[120] The attack opened a several-day stretch of violence in which Palestinians launched over 100 projectiles at Israel and Israeli responses left 19 Hamas militants and two civilians dead.[121]
    Israeli President Shimon Peres said the attack showed that Gaza had turned into a terror state.[122] The United States condemned “the attack on innocent civilians… in the strongest possible terms, saying “there is no justification for the targeting of innocent civilians and those responsible for these terrorist attacks should be held accountable.”[123] British Foreign Secretary William Hague “unreservedly” condemned the attack as “despicable” and “cowardly”, and said reports suggested that the school bus was deliberately targeted.[124]
    Over the next three hours, at least 45 additional Palestinian projectiles hit Israel. Residents were instructed to stay inside their homes, children were ordered to stay inside schools, and police sealed roads in the area for fear of additional attacks.[115] European Union foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton “strongly” condemned the attacks.[124] Details of some of the incidents:
    One mortar hit a home in the Eshkol Regional Council. The house was damaged but no injuries were reported.[115]
    A Grad missile fired at Ashkelon was intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system, marking the first successful interception of a short range rocket in history.[115]
    After nightfall, three Qassam rockets were fired into the Ashkelon Coast and Eshkol regional councils. No injuries or damage were reported.[125]
    Israel responded with airstrikes on terror cells and smuggling tunnels.[126]
    April 8
    Despite the announcement by Gazan terror organizations of a unilateral ceasefire at 11 pm the previous night, Palestinians fired at least 24 mortar shells and 6 rockets at Israel, causing serious damage to a factory and to chicken coops.[126] Hamas, Fatah, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the Popular Resistance Committees, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the little-known Abu Al-Qumsan Brigades all claimed responsibility for various attacks.[127][128] Israeli children in the danger zone were held in school for safety reasons until the attacks ended. 450 schoolchildren at the “Nitzanei Eshkol” school were evacuated with a security forces escort. No injuries were reported.[129] Details of some of the attacks:
    In the afternoon, sixteen Palestinian mortars shells exploded across southern Israel. One shell hit a chicken coop in the Eshkol Regional Council.[130][131]
    Later in the afternoon four more mortar shells landed in open areas south of Ashkelon. No injuries or damage were reported.[132]
    Four rockets were fired at Ashkelon. Three were intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system.[126]
    In the evening, two mortar shells were fired at a kibbutz in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. A residential structure was damaged.[126]
    Israel responded with airstrikes, killing four Hamas militants and one Popular Resistance Committees militant.[133]
    April 9
    Palestinians fired over 65 projectiles at Israel. Five people were injured while running to bomb shelters.[133] Details of some of the attacks:
    Overnight, 15 Grads were fired into Israeli territory. The Iron Dome defense system intercepted five of them near Beersheba and Ashkelon.[133]
    A rocket fired at a kibbutz in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council damaged homes and a water main.[133]
    After nightfall, two rocket barrages hit the Eshkol Regional Council.[133]
    Israel responded with airstrikes, killing two senior Hamas militants and one Popular Resistance Committees militant.[134]
    April 10
    Palestinians fired about 20 rockets and mortars at Israel.[135][136] Details of some of the attacks:
    In the morning, three Palestinian mortar shells hit fields belonging to a kibbutz in the Eshkol Regional Council. The projectiles damaged electrical cables, causing power outages in nearby communities.[137]
    A Palestinian rocket hit an open area in Ashkelon.[138]
    A Palestinian Grad missile fired at Ashkelon was intercepted by the Iron Dome rocket defense system.[138]
    Shortly thereafter, two Palestinian rockets hit open areas in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council and the Sdot Negev Regional Council.[139]
    In the afternoon, a Qassam rocket exploded in an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council.[140]
    Two mortar shells hit an open area in the Eshkol Regional Council.[141]
    Two more mortar shells hit the Eshkol Regional Council.[142]
    Around 9:30 pm, shortly after Palestinian militant groups announced a ceasefire, a Qassam rocket exploded in an open area in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council.[136][143]
    Israel refrained from responding to the attacks.[121]
    April 12
    According to the Palestinian Ma’an News Agency, al-Qaeda-affiliated Gazan militant group Tawhid and Jihad claimed to have launched two missiles at Nirim at 7:50 pm. The group said its claimed attack was “a response to Israeli aggression on the Gaza Strip”, without clarifying further. However, the Israel Defense Forces said they were not aware of a rocket atttack taking place at that time.[144]
    April 15
    Palestinians fired two Grad missiles at Ashdod from the Beit Lahiya neighborhood of al-Atatra in the northern Gaza Strip. Alarms sounded in Ashdod and nearby Ashkelon. One rocket exploded in a residential area and the second landed outside the city.[145] No injuries or damage were reported. Israel responded several hours later with airstrikes on militant targets. No injuries were reported.[146]
    April 18
    On Passover eve, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qassam rocket at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. It exploded in an open area near a kibbutz, and no injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red alert sounded in the area and in Sderot.[147]
    [edit]May

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip perpetrated only one rocket attack on Israel during this month.[148]
    May 28
    Overnight, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. This was the first such attack in six weeks.[149][150]
    [edit]June

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired four rockets and one mortar shell at Israel.[151]
    June 15
    At about 9:30 pm, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a Qasssam rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. The projectile landed in an open area, and no injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red siren sounded in the region.[152]
    June 21
    After nightfall, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a mortar shell at the Eshkol Regional Council, followed half an hour later by a Qassam rocket fired at the same area. No injuries or damage were reported in either attack. The incident affected an Israeli national civil defense drill the following day. Israel responded with an airstrike on an infiltration tunnel in the central Gaza Strip, causing no injuries.[153][154]
    [edit]July

    According to the Israel Security Agency’s monthly summary, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired 20 rockets and 2 mortar shells at Israel in 18 separate attacks.[155]
    July 3
    In the morning, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip fired a rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council, causing no injuries or damage.[156][157] Israel responded with an airstrike on an infiltration tunnel in the northern Gaza Strip, also causing no injuries.[158]
    July 5
    Mohammed Said and Kamal Abu Moamer, two members of the al-Qaeda-affiliated group Tawhid al-Jihad based in the southern Gaza Strip, were killed in an Israeli airstrike as they were preparing to launch a rocket into Israel from the central part of the Strip.[158][159]
    July 9
    In the evening, Palestinians fired three Qassam rockets at Israel. Two rockets hit open areas in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council; a third landed within the Gaza Strip. No injuries or damage were reported. Israel responded with an airstrike on an infiltration tunnel in the northern Gaza Strip, causing no injuries.[160][161]
    July 12
    Around 10:15 pm, Palestinians fired two Qassam rockets at Israel. One of the rockets exploded several feet from a home in the Sdot Negev Regional Council, damaging it, while the other hit an open area in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries were reported. The Color Red siren sounded, and residents also received text messages asking them to enter fortified spaces. Israel responded with airstrikes on two Gazan sites identified as weapons manufacturing facilities, causing no injuries.[162][163][164]
    July 13
    In the morning, Palestinians fired a rocket at the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[163][165] Israel responded with airstrikes on two tunnels in the southern Gaza Strip and a third in the north.[166]
    July 14
    In the morning, Palestinians fired a rocket at the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. In the afternoon, Palestinians fired three more rockets at unspecified areas in Israel. In the evening, two more rockets were fired at the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported in any of the attacks.[166][167] Israel responded with airstrikes on four Hamas training camps in the Gaza Strip. Palestinian sources said that two children were lightly injured.[168]
    July 15
    Palestinians fired a mortar shell at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[169]
    July 16
    Overnight, Palestinians fired a rocket at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[170]
    July 17
    Starting about 1 am, Palestinians fired three Qassam rockets at Israel. The first rocket hit the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. Two additional rockets exploded later in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. The Color Red alarm did not sound.[171][172]
    July 19
    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket at the Sdot Negev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported. Israel responded with airstrikes on terror targets in the Gaza Strip, causing no reported injuries.[173][174]
    July 28
    In the morning, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket at the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. The Color red alarm sounded in the area. No injuries or damage were reported.[175]
    [edit]August

    August 1
    Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket at the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. It exploded near a Bedouin tent, injuring 55-year-old shepherdess Fatma Saria in the lower limbs. The Color Red alarm sounded in the region.[176][177][178]
    August 3
    At about 10:30pm, Palestinians fired a rocket at the Lakhish Regional Council, between Sderot and Kiryat Gat.[179] The Abdullah Azzam Brigades claimed responsibility for the attack.[180]
    August 4
    Shortly after midnight, Palestinians fired a rocket that exploded at the entrance to Ashkelon. Five people were lightly injured seeking shelter after the Color Red alarm sounded.[181] Israel responded with an airstrike on a Hamas militant center in the Gaza Strip.[179]
    In the evening, Palestinians fired two rockets at Kiryat Gat. No physical injuries were reported, but two people were treated for shock. The Color Red alarm sounded in the city.[178]
    August 7
    After nightfall, Palestinians fired a Qassam rocket at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. The rocket landed near a kibbutz, triggering the Color Red alarm.[182]
    Later, Palestinians fired three mortar shells at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council, damaging a fence.[183]
    August 15
    Palestinians fired a Grad rocket into Beersheba. Israel responded with airstrikes on five targets in the Gaza Strip, killing one armed Hamas terrorist and wounding several others. In a separate incident, several Palestinians were scattered by the Israeli Air Force as they were attempting to fire a rocket into Israel.[184][185]
    August 18
    Palestinians fired two rockets at Ashkelon; at least one of them was intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system. The Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility. Later, two more rockets fired at Ashkelon were intercepted by Iron Dome.[186]
    August 19
    Palestinians terrorists fired 17 rockets and several mortars at Israel. Responsibility for various attacks was claimed by the Popular Resistance Committees and Fatah’s Al Aqsa Brigades and al-Mujahideen Brigades.[187] The streets in Beersheba were said to be empty for fear of rockets. Details of some of the attacks:
    In the morning, a rocket fired at a Jewish religious seminary in Ashdod injured 10 people, two of them seriously. Several blocks away, a Grad rocket landed inside a synagogue while worshipers were praying, but failed to explode. There were no injuries. The synagogue was partially demolished in order to clear the rocket.[188] The al-Qaeda-affiliated Abdullah Azzam Brigades claimed responsibility for the Grad attacks, saying they were a response to Israel’s targeting of the Popular Resistance Committees leadership the previous day.[189]
    Around 4 pm, two Grad rockets exploded between Kiryat Malachi, Gedera and Gan Yavneh. One of the rockets started a fire, damaging a building.[190]
    Around 5 pm, a Qassam rocket hit the Eshkol Regional Council.
    Around 6:20 pm, two rockets hit Ashdod and the Sdot Negev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[191]
    In the evening, a Qassam rocket landed near a kibbutz in the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council.[192]
    In the evening, two mortar shells hit the Eshkol Regional Council.[193][194]
    After nightfall, two rockets hit the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[195]
    Around 10 pm, a Grad rocket fired at Ashkelon was intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system.[196][197]
    Israel responded with airstrikes on four targets in the Gaza Strip, killing senior Popular Resistance Committees commander Samed Abdul Mu’ty Abed as he was on his motorcycle.[198]
    August 20
    As Hamas announced it would renew attacks on Israelis, Palestinians fired 64 rockets at Israel. The projectiles reached Ashdod, Ashkelon, Beersheba and Ofakim, forcing more that half a million Israelis into bomb shelters. A Grad rocket fired at Beersheba killed 38-year-old Yossi Shoshan of Ofakim, who was on his way to ensure the safety of his his 9-month pregnant wife. Many others were injured in Beersheba, Ashdod and Ofakim, including a 4-month-old baby.[199][200][201] Details of some of the attacks:
    Around 4 am, two rockets hit the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[202] Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[203]
    Two rockets fired from the northern Gaza Strip hit the outskirts of Ashdod, seriously injuring three Palestinian aliens working in the local industrial zone. The three were rushed to Kaplan Medical Center for treatment.[202][204] Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[203]
    Around 8:30 am, a rocket fired from the northern Gaza Strip hit an open area in the Be’er Tuvia Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[202][205] Palestinian Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.[203]
    Around 9 am, a Grad rocket landed in the Bnei Shimon Regional Council just north of Beersheba, triggering the Color Red alarm. Eight people suffered light injuries and shock.[202][206][207] The Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility.[203]
    A rocket fired at the Lachish Regional Council at noon exploded on a section of Highway 35, from Ashkelon to Kiryat Gat, severely damaging it. The highway was closed to traffic.[208]
    Just after noon, two Qassam rockets hit the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council, one landing in a kibbutz and the other in an open area. No injuries or damage were reported.[209][210]
    A rocket fired at Ashkelon was intercepted by Iron Dome.[211]
    Four mortar shells were fired at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[212]
    A Qassam rocket was fired at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council and a mortar was fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[213]
    Two mortar shells were fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[214]
    Five mortar shells were fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[215]
    A mortar shell was fired at the Eshkol Regional Council.[216]
    A Grad rocket fired at Beersheba was intercepted by Iron Dome. The Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility.[217]
    Five additional mortar shells were fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[218]
    Grad rockets were fired at Ofakim. One rocket hit a home, wounding a 4-month-old baby, a 9-year-old child, and a 20-year-old man. Hamas claimed responsibility.[219][220]
    A barrage of Grad rockets hit Beersheba, killing one person and injuring at least ten, four of them seriously. The Popular Resistance Committees claimed responsibility.[221][222]
    Two Qassam rockets hit the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council.[223]
    A Qassam rocket fired at Israel exploded within the Gaza Strip.[224]
    August 21
    In the morning, two mortar shells were fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[225]
    In the morning, a Qassam rocket hit the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.[226]
    In the morning, three Grad rockets fired at Ashkelon were intercepted by Iron Dome.[227]
    In the morning, two Grad rockets were fired at Beersheba. One was intercepted by Iron Dome; the other fell in an open area near the city. No injuries or damage were reported.[228]
    In the morning, a rocket hit a school in Beersheba, damaging it. No injuries were reported.[229]
    In the morning, two rockets were fired at the Beersheba region. No injuries or damage were reported.[230]
    Shortly before noon, three rockets hit near Ashkelon. No injuries or damage were reported.[231]
    Shortly after noon, a rocket was fired at the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[232]
    During the evening, a Qassam rocket was fired at Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[233]
    Though a ceasefire has been declared starting 09:00 P.M. that night, two rockets were fired after that time. No injures were reported.[234]
    [235]
    August 22
    During night, a rocket was fired at the city of Ashkelon and was intercepted by the Iron Dome defense system.[236]
    Another rocket was fired early morning at Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries were reported.[237]
    At night, a Qassam rocket was fired at Ashkelon and landed in an open area. No injuries were reported.[238]
    A rocket fired at Hof Ashkelon Regional Council landed near greenhouses and started a fire. No injuries were reported.[239]
    Another rocket landed in Hof Ashkelon Regional Council just before midnight.[240]
    August 24
    Palestinians fired more than 20 rockets on Israeli communities. Grad rockets fell on the cities of Beersheba, Ashkelon and Ofakim, injuring a 9-month-old baby. Israel responded with airstrikes, killing a senior Palestinian Islamic Jihad operative invlolved in a recent terrorist shooting attack on Israel.[241][242]
    August 25
    Palestinians fired at least 15 rockets and mortars at Israel.[243] Details of the attacks:
    Five Qassam rockets were fired at the Shaar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.
    Four Qassam rockets were fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injuries or damage were reported.
    A Grad rocket fell in an open area near Ashkelon, without causing injuries or damage.
    A Palestinian mortar shell caused extensive damage to the Erez Crossing Terminal, which is frequently used by Palestinians to enter Israel for medical treatments.[244]
    Israel responded with airstrikes on several targets in the Gaza Strip, killing two Palestinian Islamic Jihad militants involved in the attack against the Erez Crossing Terminal.[245][246]
    August 26
    At about 3 pm, Palestinians fired a Grad rocket at Ashkelon, despite a ceasefire announced by Palestinian Islamic Jihad the previous day. Shortly after 10 pm, two Qassam rockets were fired at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injuries were reported in either incident. The leftist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine claimed responsibility for two attacks on Ashkelon.[243][247]
    August 27
    A Qassam rocket fell in the Negev. No injuries or damage were reported.[248]
    August 28
    A Grad rocket fired was fired at Hatzerim in the Bnei Shimon Regional Council, near Beersheba. After nightfall, a Qassam rocket was fired at the Sha’ar Hanegev Regional Council. No injures were reported in either attack. Tawhid wal-Jihad claimed responsibility for both.[249][250][251]
    August 29
    A Qassam rocket was fired at the Eshkol Regional Council. No injures or damage were reported. Tawhid wal-Jihad claimed responsibility.[250][252]
    August 31
    Two Qassam rockets hit the Eshkol Regional Council. No injures or damage were reported.[253]
    [edit]September

    September 5
    A rocket fell in an open area in the western Negev. There were no casualties or damage. [254]

    If they were better shots, there wouldn’t be any Israelis left to retaliate.
    No wonder Israel checks every ship entering Gaza.
    Try that with almost any other country and Gaza would be hit like the US hit Baghdad at the start of the war. I would say that Israel is exercising great restraint. Since the end of Operation Cast Lead, 548 rockets and 356 mortar shells have been fired into Israel.
    You can see why Israel might get a bit annoyed.
    Maybe you would feel better if Israel simply lobbed one rocket into Gaza for each one they receive. An eye for an eye – that would be fair, eh?
    God should approve of that, right?
    Personally, i think that might be a good idea. Maybe then the peace-loving citizens of Gaza might be able to convince their crazy cousins to stop firing rockets and start growing food instead.
    Yeah, like that’s gonna happen…

  134. James et al,

    I thought that you and others might like to read this article from the Jerusalem Post:

    http://www.jpost.com/DiplomacyAndPolitics/Article.aspx?id=237670

    It describes Turkey’s intent to send three warships to confront Israeli vessels in international waters and protect supply ships sent to Gaza. The turkish prime minister said that he saw “grounds for war” with the Gaza supply ship incident last year.

    Hopefully this is just saber-rattling, but it might be the prelude to something much more ominous.

    Blessings,

    Abel

  135. I’ve heard about this and I’m going to watch it carefully. I’ve know for many years that Turkey will go to war against Israel eventually, until recently the two were friendly, but now, it is starting to look like they will become adversaries, just as the bible predicts.
    We shall soon see.

  136. Well, there are some who feel the Islamic caliphate would fit what this preacher is saying fits the US. I think he makes some good points, but it is quite a stretch.
    The US is losing influence. People are not looking to her to police the world, more and more they are resenting her military intrusions to bring about what she thinks should happens, viewing them as bullying.
    Revelation was written about the world at that time, which wouldn’t have included North America. However the economic system, which the US partakes in, seems to be described in prophecy.

  137. Maria,

    I agree the U.S. should mind its own business when it come to many world affairs. The vast majority of the wars that we have fought were not about ideologies (stopping genocide, etc.), they were fought to protect the economic interests of the monetary kings that rule here. Thus a search for Osama bin Laden who was in Afganistan (a country with no oil), became a war on Iraq (a country with lots of oil). And of the countries in the Middle East that wish to free themselves from tyrants, none of the oil-poor states have received U.S. aid, but Libya, an oil-rich state, has received plenty.

    I will not single out the U.S. on this however, this is the way of Man. Greed motivates nearly every action they take. Though cancer can currently be cured with cheap, non-patentable medicines, mainstream medical science awaits until expensive patentable analogs of these drugs can be developed before it will save any lives using the mechanism upon which these medications are based.

    Money is the root of all evil. It has always been this way. Only God’s kingdom will change that.

    Blessings,

    Abel

    • You know, for a long time everyone has been saying we only invaded Iraq because they have oil, yet we don’t get any of our oil from them and we have never made them pay us war reparations in oil or anything else, We’ve spent a fortune on their country and will soon be out of there with nothing to show for it. The same holds true for Afghanistan. Nothing to do with oil. As soon as we leave the Taliban will return and warlords will rule again. You can’t make a silk purse from a sows ear and you can make a democracy out of a Muslim country.
      These wars were simply a reaction to being attacked. A gesture of self-defense. A big mistake as far as I’m concerned. An even bigger waste of money that has nearly bankrupted our country. If these wars were for economic gain, they certainly didn’t work. War is always more costly than whatever you get out of it, except in the old days when your private army could attack a desert caravan and steal all their wealth and take their women as slaves.
      Now that was a pretty good deal.

  138. Dear James,

    I am sorry I should have been clearer. The U.S. as a nation has certainly paid dearly for every war that it has fought, both in lives lost and the vast quantities of money that our country has spent to fight them. I absolutely agree with you on that. I was not talking about the U.S. as a nation benefiting from these wars, I was talking about the companies and individuals that benefit from a wartime economy.

    These are the companies that produce bullets, missiles, drones, helmets, etc. as well as those that sell oil and repair oil fields (like Halliburton) with no-bid contracts. These wealthy few are the ones the benefit from these wars. It is strange that during the course of the Bush administration, about 10% of the total oil consumed in the United States was being pumped into the ground as part of our strategic oil reserve and this was in addition to that purchased to fight in the Middle East. This was done even when gas hit $4.50 at gallon at the pumps (the Clinton administration pumped oil from this reserve when the price of oil spiked during his administration).

    Though Cheney has managed to keep the transcripts of his secret meeting with oil industry representatives at the beginning of the Bush administration unpublished so far, I am certain one day the truth of what transpired in that meeting will be revealed. I personally find the enforced secrecy damning. If they were proud of what they said and did I don’t believe it would be an issue.

    Since it seems that we can count on crony capitalism from whatever president we elect, we should start voting for those that are backed by peace-time industries, like health care, labor unions, agriculture and universities. It’s cheaper.

    Just a thought.

    Blessings,

    Abel

    • Abel,
      I agree that countries have gone to war over resources. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor in Dec. 1941 because it only had a 9 month supply of oil for it’s navy so it had to take out the US navy fast and early if it wanted to continue to take over the western Pacific. I believe that WW3 will be fought over oil, when OPEC cancels oil shipments to the EU and sells the oil to China instead. Mid-East oil is peaking about now and it will begin to decline in the future. This means that if China wants to keep growing at its current rate it will have to “steal” oil from other countries, and OPEC will favor China over Europe at that time.
      This also fits prophecy, but it will likely happen even if the prophecy is BS.

  139. James,

    I just came across this story. I thought I would share it with you.

    http://www.todayszaman.com/news-256711-israel-keeps-electronic-aviation-systems-purchased-by-turkey.html

    I am glad that now that Turkey and Israel are at the brink of war they have decided to quit selling them weapons and repairing the ones they have. I wonder if they will be so prudent in the future?

    Take care,

    Abel

  140. It’s the same lesson Saddam Hussein learned when he tried to rebuild Babylon even though he knew the bible said it would never rise again…
    You can’t thwart prophecy even if you rule a kingdom…

  141. Religion is based on faith. Faith is subjective. There can be no one true religion. Is there one true God? I believe so.

    However, I am certain that there are many paths to reaching it. There is no one right path, just as there are no two people who can see the world is the exact same way.

    As long as we strive to climb the mountain, which side we take is irrelevant. :)

    • hi grey

      Actually, the path you take does make a difference. It is an illusion that all paths lead to the same place.

      Faith should not be subjective. It should be based on the proven Word of God. God has proven himself, and so it is important to go by what he says.

      Jesus was sent by God to mankind, to be the “way” to the Father in heaven.

      Jesus proved himself, and who he was. Other religions cannot do that.

      Jesus said that no one could come to the Father except by him.

      It is important to consider his words.

      I hope you do.

      Do not look at the behavior of man, but at the words of God.

      Man and his opinion cannot save anyone, but Jesus can.

      May God bless you.

    • Ah, that sounds nice but if you read and know the Bible well, you would probably be astonished at how accurate it’s prophesies are. Many of them used to sound like fantastical myths, but not so much anymore, which is a litlle scary but those that are ready to meet God and deal with the outcome of prophecy are ok. God’s wil, will prevail, whether we like it or not and whether we believe it or not. But WWIII will come about because of what Muslims believe. Convert them or kill them as they have done in countless countries so far.

  142. dude, please learn al qur’an first before making any justification, it is better to learn and understand it by yourself rather than quoting it from malicious website..
    How sure are you that the proclaim muslim website is written by a muslim and if the website is true written by a muslim, how sure are you that what he says is based on what is written in the holy qur’an.. and he understand it..

    the holy quran is different from others, soo it is better for you to understand it by your self before make any statement..the knowledge of god is not something that we can analyze and interpret with our puny human brains.. so rather than analyzing it is better to understand and think

  143. i quoted from somebody:

    1) 666 is not a holy number in Islam… what nonesense… and pretty much all that preacher said is ridiculous. and what the Al Qaeda and Taliban is doing is sooo anti-Islamic and against Islam, and what the Prophet (peace be upon him) did. Btw just in case you didn’t know – Muslims also believe in Jesus (peace be upon him) as a Messenger and Prophet, ..we believe God is One, and does not beget nor is begotten, does need a son or etc.. He is God, He is Self-Sufficient, and Our Creator

    2) Yes Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) married Aisha, who was 9 years old.
    I would like to mention a few things here. we have to understand the context of time when many of the Prophets that both Christians and Muslims believe in.
    Secondly, in Islam, you become responsible once you hit puberty. and many years ago ppl were wayy more mature than nowadays…seriously today youth are made to remain irresponsible and immature by society or whatever it is.. but back then 14 year olds would be in armies, 12 year olds would be leading prayers.. so you have to understand, back then how mature a 9 year old would be… of coursethey are youth and still energetic, playful, etc.. but at the same time, they were responsible and mature…like probably back then 9 years old would have the maturity of the 20 year olds of the 21 st century

    Thirdly, one of the beautiful things Islam introduced was that women could not be forced to marry…no matter what the parents say or what… this is Islam..ignore wht some cultures do. Her parents asked Aisha if she wanted to marry and she agreed. and there were many women at the wedding all who could have said something against the marriage…but as we can see..it was normal for a girl to get married at that age

    also Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) became a great scholar of Islam…she was young and learned so much and was one of the greatest narrators of hadith (sayings of the Prophet peace be upon him)…so her youth benefitted and ppl came to ask her questions and learn even after the Prophet’s death (peace be upon him)
    also we don’t see any hadith where Aisha or any of the Prophet’s wives complained about him and this is because how beautifully and gently and fairly he treated them all

    • Muslims always forget that there is still plenty of text and information from that time period and earlier. There is no medical texts or writtings of girls that young reaching puberty. There were plenty of physicians notes and books from the time. Even if she had a period that young, she was of the mindset of a child as in her words; playing with dolls, etc. Little girls dream of getting married all the time, it is up to the parents to have common sense to not let it happen. But they were all convinced that her marriage to Mohammed would be beneficial. You are stretching it too far to say that she or any other 9 yr old had the maturity of a 20 yr. old. That is laughable that so many of you believe it. Mohammed’s version of Jesus is whack. He taught that he was born of a virgin but not divine? Will come again to judge all Mankind but not devine? God the Creator can beget a Son if He wishes even if the weirdo Mohammed couldn’t believe it. The Father, Son & Holy Spirit are one. Mohammed even admitted that he was tormented by demons and what he wrote was against God. How can you read the haddith and even think anything in it was beautiful. I read it and it is sick and disgusting. It is an oxymoron phrase to say that you can treat multiple wives well, because to treat a wife well means that she is the only one that you give yourself to. All were treated badly because they were just one of 9 or 11 depending on which Muslim you talk to. There were divorces in there also and what about the commands of wife beating and such. How disgusting is that? It also goes on about him fondling his wives while on their periods, how he prefered a girl’s genitals to be cut, sex with a dead woman (so that she would have the benefit of being a prophets wife in paradise-what a crock of $#!&). Muslims try to justify all kinds of weird crap, but for your arguement that at that time a 9 yr old had the maturity of a 20 yr. old is just ludicrous. The actual number 666 in Islam is not what the writer was refering to. You need to pay attention.

  144. Hi to all. I am a Christian, and as such I believe that everyone has the right to chose the religous path they wish to take in life. God Almighty allows us free choice, and we should all respect the fact that He does. That doesn’t mean to say that God is necessarilly happy with the choices that we make in life, but He allows us the total freedom to do so. We are answerable to God alone if we mess up, especially if we know we have had an opportunty to repent, and we chose not to. Thanks be to Jesus Christ alone for making forgiveness possible. It’s because of Jesus Christ that God (when judgement comes) will not see our sins, provided we have accept in faith, the sacrificial shed blood of Christ (our passover lamb), as a covering for our sins.

    In many examples throughout history, religious leaderes have taken it upon themselves to apply what they consider to be the penal aspect of their beliefs, when it comes to what they consider to be wrong doing. The Lord Jesus gave us an example of leaving the matter of penalty to God at the judgement. Many from all religions both past and present, may have to answer to God for their judgement of fellow man, and the harsh penalties they would inflict upon others for not adhering to laws or codes which are deemed to be a part of their religous beliefs.

    In the western world we have bishops and priests of pseudo Christianity, who are all too ready to bless the bomb, the bullet, and the bloodshed in the name of the international financiers..the God’s of a very different kind of profit. Men and women who bravely walk in the shadow of death, in the belief they are doing their duty for King/Queen and country, when it’s really for the international banking dynasties, who capitalise out of bloodshed. On the other hand you have the radical Muslims who bey for the blood of those are considered infadels, and who are valued as less than dogs. Fanatical Islam also blesses the bomb, the bullet, and the bloodshed in the name of Allah. If a Christian turns his/her back on Christ, he/she is answerable to Christ. If a Muslim turns his/her back on Islam/Mohamet they are answerable to an Islamic Court and it makes judgement a matter for them.

    This world certainly needs the Lord Jesus, the promised Messiah to return to this earth to set up the kingdom of God, when pseudo anything will be removed and destroyed. The Cristian belief is based purely on the Hebrew faith..the Old Testament is the New Testament contained, and the New Testament is the Old Testament explained..they fit together in perfect harmony, with Jesus written in symbol or type or fact on every page of the bible. The book of Revelation is a concentration of prophetic symbols concerning the unfinished business the Lord God has with the Jews who rejected their Messiah..Jesus Christ.

    • hi Hedley

      I would agree with most of what you say.

      However, there is nothing in the bible which says we permit civil disorder, chaos, and rampant evil. It says that those in civil authority are a terror to those who are evil, and it is their responsibility to protect civilians and keep peace. There are many accounts in the bible where God told Israel they would have to fight to keep what was given to them.

      While cooperating with international bankers and financiers is a popular thought out there, America has to defend itself, both in defense mode and in a pre-emptive mode, to protect its citizens. Same is true for any country. Think of the stand Winston Churchill had to make in the last world war. Britain was being invaded by Nazis, and it was going to be bombed to death. His job was to fight back, to stop this incoming destruction. Would you say he was trying to make the bankers happy? I hope not. Millions of people’s lives were at stake.

      This is the duty of government, and has been going on before there were banks, both in modern and ancient times.

      • Hi Marianne,

        Thank you for your reply. Yes indeed, all governments are put in place by God, whether they are good or evil. Pharaoh king of Egypt was raised up for a purpose, and was then destroyed because he was evil. The civil authorities are there to do God’s Will..whatever that is, and as such we are commanded to pay our taxes for their administrative costs, as well as for the benefit of all if it is God’s Will.

        Deut 32: 39-41 “See now that I, even I, am he,and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand….If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgement; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me.” Deut 28 catalouges the blessings Israel would receive for obedience, and the cursings for disobedience. God has raised up many enemies against Israel for their mainly persistent disobedience throughout history Isa 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” Hitler was a very evil man, however, he served a purpose in God’s plan..in the same way that Nebuchadrezzar was when he was about to take the Jews into 70 years captivity!..Jer 25:9 “…and Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and will bring them against this land, and against the inhabitants thereof….”

        Jesus also said Math 22:21 “…Render therefore unto Ceasar the things which are Ceasar’s; and unto God’s the things that are God’s.” All things said, God doesn’t condone injustice or corruption or warmongerers etc. In the case of usury Jesus displayed judgement to those who had coined the market and turned a place of worship into a bank. In the case of wars, who is to say which side is doing God’s Will i.e USA; China; Russia; Israel etc. We have to remain impartial and listen to the words of Jesus Jn 18:36 “…My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight; that I should not be delivered unto the Jews…” Those who claim to be Christian (or any person for that matter) and yet holds the sword to his fellow man are anathema to God.

        Just a few things about the international bankers…moneychangers! Don’t get me wrong..I’m not taking sides..just an observer with Christian responsibilities to point things out the way they are. The Lord Jesus will have even bigger tables to overturn when he returns. Most people don’t realise the evil that money is responsible for. The few trillionaires such as the Rothschild’s who keep billions of people in poverty for their gain. Printing credit money out of nothing, then lending to governments and charging interest on it..with us the taxpayer paying for that interest..usury! The manipulation of the money markets..driving the markets down and buying at the short end, then driving the markets up and selling at the long end..usury! Look what the Rothschild’s have done in financing wars throughout history with their ill-gotton wealth, and charging interest on the loans for war machines, making war a very profitable business for them. The Zionist movement has been funded with this money, as well as the establishment of the nation of Israel.The global security fund established by Jacob Rothschild..doesn’t trade..not listed..blood money for finacing wars; terrorism; assinations etc. The tens of millions of people who have died in wars funded by the Rothschild and Rockefeller banking dynasties besides the assasinations of Abraham Lincoln; James Garfield; and JFK when they stood up to these corrupt people. Yet, it was God’s Will, and as such we have seen the nation of Israel re-established, and the fulfillment of bible prophecy because of corrupt people..God certainly does work in mysterious ways!

        What we see with govenrments is just the tip of the iceberg. Governments are just the PR of the bankers. The bankers have the power to turn truths into lies, and lies into truths, and bamboozle us with conspiracy theories! The bankers are manipulating the politcs of the middle-east. They are attempting to create a common currency amongst at least five Arab states for the moment. They are trying to create democracies in the Arab world by taking control of Islam, so that Israel can live without walls or bars or gates in their version of secular heaven.

  145. When they (Israel) say..”Peace and safety, then sudden destruction”. The nation of Israel has been allowed by God to return to their historical homeland in preperation to meet their Messiah..the Lord Jesus Christ. The problem is: the Jews will not readilly accept Jesus, and will have to go through much pain before they do. The ‘Peace Treaty’ will be Israel’s downfall. Israel is the woman riding the beast (the lion; the bear; the leopard and the ten toes/horns..10 Arab peoples of Ps 83). Secualr Israel is the Harlot, (Isa 1:21 “How is this faithful city become an harlot”) who through her Zionist bankers has caused the kings of the earth (the nations of the seas i.e.goyim) to fornicate with her, and who will watch the smoke of her burning when the calamity desribed in Rev 18:18 befalls her. Israel who makes a peace treaty with Islam, on the basis that she can control it through financial entrapment, (like she has the rest of us) will be the very irony that brings about a time of trouble..Dan12:1. Just as Eve was deceived by the serpent, so the woman (Israel) again will be deceived by the Islimists who offer her peace either directly or through a broker or jointly. All of this ties up with the one remaining week (7 year period in which the peace covenant is broken) of the seventy weeks prophecy of Dan 9.

    It seems that it’s in the purpose of God to use Islam as the means to test the faith of Christians, and to attempt to destroy the nation of Israel. We can only pray for God’s people Israel and for the peace of Jerusalem. Also, that the days ahead will be shortened for the sake of God’s elect.

  146. Hi to all again. Didn’t have time to post all that was on my mind the other day. Wanted to give an example of how the Rothschilds (international banking dynasty possibly worth 3-400 trillion £’s) have funded different sides to achieve their political aims. More importantly, its how they have unwittingly fulfiiled prophecy.

    During the first world war, the Germans were winning up until the USA was brought into it. The only reason the USA was brought into that war, was to secure the land of Palestine for the Zionists, and hence the Balfour Declaration was signed. The German Zionists put pressure on their American counterparts, to persuade the president at that time (was it Wilson?..cant remember) to help the Brits, provided they relinquished their hold over Palestine, in return for financial help to win the war etc. The Balfour Declaration paved the way forward to the re-establishment of the nation of Israel.

    The Rothschild’s actually funeded the Nazi regime prior to the outbreak of war between Brtain and Germany. Thought I saw an item of news a few weeks ago, stating that old FBI files had been made public showing that was indeed the case. Actually, Germany at one time had been the safest place on earth for Jews to live, until the American Rothschild’s forced the administration to slap an embargo on Germany, which almost brought it to the point of starvation. It was at that point in time Hiltler took it out on the Jews..wrong move I know, but still in God’s plan. The Rothschild’s also funded the Russian Revolution through London based banks, and 70 million people died as a consequence of that.

    Most people don’t realise that the IMF, the BIS (sister bank to the IMF) Bank of International Settlements, also known as the Central Bank of Cental Banks, as well as all of the Central Banks in the world apart from a few countries are privately owned..guess who owns them! The BIS deals only in gold..gold standard..perhaps that’s where all of your gold from Fort Knox disappeared to, which was stolen by legislation from Americans in the frist place..and who made the legislation..guess who! King Soloman recieved 666 talents of gold in the course of one year. The gold standard was being set in London by the Rothschilds every day until fairly recently. They claim not to be setting the standard any longer, however, they have agents to do that for them now..but it’s still them..don’t be deceived. The currencies of the world are being controlled by the gold standard. The beast is a trading entity that makes many rich through commerce. The beast as represented by Daniel’s image, is stood upon the land of Israel when Jesus Christ returns..strikes the feet. The beast is being supported from the feet upwards, as well as controlled from the bridle down, by the whore..Israel/Zionism. It’s Zionism which is giving power unto the beast. The Zionist bankers are the invisible government, who through finance will try to entrap Islam in order to control it by democracy, in return for peace. Do you know there is loads more of this stuff..so much of it in the bible and on record, it’s a job to know where to start or indeed finish!!!

    • hi hedley

      I know it is a popular trend, but zionism did not originate with the Rothchilds. It originated with God himself. How human events unfold still all reflect his plan for the jews to be brought back to their homeland.

      So zionism is not an evil plot. It is a divine plan. Both the evil and the good play a part. Israel belongs back in the land, and so zionism is just the return of the jews to Israel to fulfill prophecy.

      Israel is not there to harm anyone, but to live out its days and meet its Messiah. It has been trying to do so in peace, but has been constantly attacked since day one by its enemies. It gives away ladn for peace, but its enemies do not want peace. Only its destruction.

      Zionism will be complete when Jesus the Messiah returns. Then Israel will have its land secure, and its enemies will be conquered forever.

      • Give away land for peace? compare the borders when it was first granted space in Palestine to now.
        Zionism is an evil, evil plot. However, God will use it to his good. God never condones sin. He doesn’t “allow” it. It always displeases him. However, he can turn things around to the good.
        Prophecy isn’t God sitting down and writing out the game plan. He is just telling the world that the road it is headed down will end up in disaster, until he comes to save what is left, before it is all destroyed.
        But don’t kid yourself, all the war and savagery and massacre and greed and looting by the big bankers is from Satan himself, not from God. To say otherwise is to contradict Scripture and make God full of evil and manipulative. God never changes, he is just and perfectly holy, incapable of both sinning or condoning sin. The end does NOT justify the means.

        • hi Maria

          Originally all of Israel ( Palestine) and modern Jordan belonged to the Jews, according to the Balfour declaration in 1917. Piece by piece, it was taken away and given to its enemies.

          Jordan was created as the Palestinian state, but many refused to move, and wanted Israeli land instead. So now today, the Palestinians want ALL of the land and ALL of the Jews dead.

          The land never belonged to the Palestinians. It belonged to the British before it was transferred legally to the Jews as a homeland.

          There would have been a greater Jewish presence in the 1920s and 1930s but the Muslims in Palestine worked with Hitler to ban immigration, so that they could keep ( steal) the land and force the Jews to die in the holocaust.

          Now, THAT is evil.

          • ????!!!!!!!!
            People need to do their research. Your claims here do not stand up.

          • Absolutely true and I completely agree. Not to mention that Israel is only about 0.01% of the land that Muslims want, but because of their evil hatred, they want all Jews dead. Then they come for the Christians next. Also it was a veritable wasteland but within the last 70 years it has become green and blossomed into what was prophesied and all the world said it was a myth that that could ever happen.

        • Hi Maria,

          As mentioned on other posts Zionism means different things to different people. Secular Zionism, where there is political ambition to control the world’s finances, as well as you and me through entrapment to their credit money, is very much a part of the “beast” personality. There is a very strong link between the “beast” which arises out of the sea (sea meaning the nations..the goyim..or gentiles..Arabs), and secualr Zionism which is depicted by the “whore” who is controlling the affairs of the “beast”. The second beast seems to be another symbol for the whore or secular Zionism. The symbols in Revelation are describing the different characters on the world’s stage prior to Christ’s second coming, as well as their varying and perhaps overlapping roles.

          Unfortunately, I have been accused of making disparaging statements against Israel and the Jews of whom it’s considered have done nothing wrong. Although there are many Jews who haven’t aligned themselves with secular Zionsim, I have considered it wrong to make a political stance alongside the kind of Zionism, which is responsible for much of the world’s current problems, whether it’s wars; terrorism; famine; through financial exploits which gain them the political and economic advantage, and which disavantages the ordinary person. Wickedness that makes war a business..as through the global securities fund (established by Jacob Rothschild..a secular Zionist) whose blood money amounts to approximately 50 trillion dollars (I said £’s in an earlier post but I meant dollars) for the sole purpose of state sponsored murder. Look on the internet for Rothschild’s etc, and you will find out the things they don’t want you to know. There are some people who really do know how the secular Zionists operate, and who have had dealings with them and their associates, and whose consciences have been so disturbed by their findings, they feel it necessary to make it public.

          Just a few words about evil..a concordance has been of great help to me. Evil as in Isa 45:7 “I form the light and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” In this context evil means to cause trouble..it’s the opposite to peace. In other words there is no rest for the wicked so to speak.

          • hedley

            Zionism (establishment of Israel as a nation) and the world economy are not related.

            Your logic is faulty.

            It is like saying that since Hitler was white, that white people are Nazis.

            • Firstly, your two comments are illogical since political Zionsm which has funded modern day Israel, is linked to the world’s finances and economies..there is manifold documented evidence to show that this is the case. Personally, I have put my suspicion of such facts to banking operatives of JP Morgan Chase, who without exception have confirmed my thoughts.

              Secondly, whilst I can prove you wrong on the first point, I would actually agree with you that as Hitler was white, it doesn’t reason that all white people are Nazis. In the same way that Hitler had two divisions of Arabs on his side, doesn’t make all Arabs Nazis either. I heard someone say on the TV a few years ago that “Not all muslims are terrorists, but all terrorists are muslims.” There are many terrorist organisations in the world..some hardly known about, and all of them I suppose feel disinfranchised, and have a grievance about some issue or another. The political Zionists had there own terrorist organisations such as the Irgun fighters etc. I read a very interesting book some years ago about the Zionist struggles to create a homeland of their own called “Days of Fire” by Samuel Katz. It’s easy to make sweeping statements without reference to the facts!!!

              On Dec 19th 1891, a British newspaper called the “Labour Leader” wrote the following article: “This blood-sucking crew has been the cause of untold mischief and misery in Europe during the present century, and has piled up its prodigous wealth chiefly through fomenting wars between States which ought never to have quarreled. Wherever there is trouble in Europe (in todays world it’s global), wherever rumours of war circulate and mens minds are distraught with fear of change or calamity you may be sure that a hook-nosed Rothschild is at his games somewhere near the region of the disturbance.”

              Pure Zionism as apposed to apostate Zionists is without question an act of YHWH. There is no question in my mind that pure Zionism is the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. I suppose, in one sense it deosn’t matter how or by whom modern day Israel came to be, it’s sufficient to know that YHWH’s unfolding plan and purpose for the Jews is unfolding before our very eyes, and as such we can all give glory to YHWH. After all it is for YHWH’s glory that He is seen to be true and faithful, so that everyone (Jew and Gentile) might be persauded to believe and trust in Him. The problem is that political/apostate Zionists only believe in their own strenght, giving credit only to themselves for their achivements. It’s a matter of differentiating between true Zionism, and political Zionists who trash YHWH’s laws, and reject the law of Christ.. i.e. love. Therefore, it is impossible to reconcile pure Zionism which is from the Almighty, and apaostate/political Zionism, which stems from secular Zionists..they are not one and the same thing, and are diametrically opposed to each other, but therein lies another irony.

              The real danger in all of this is: one of politicising Christianity in favour of supporting Jewish secularism which is what political Zionism is. Before you tell me otherwise, I was once instructed that this is the case, by someone who had a fairly high rank in the Israeli security services, who had worked closely with the UN, and who was a staunch political Zionist. Furthermore, he despised the religous Zionists. If we are to maintain our Christian integrity regarding Christ’s law of love, then we will ally ourselves in support of those whose actions disregard Christ, although we should earnestly pray for them to come to Jesus.

              Rom 2: 28-29 “For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.”
              The land of Israel has been set aside for those who share in the faith of Abraham i.e. those who are in Christ..not the political Zionists who in unbelief do all the things that unbelievers do, in their world of international finance, and who through their government agents sponsor some of the worst atrocities against their fellow man, purely for financial gain.

            • Just to correct a mistake in paragraph 5..”…then we WILL not ally ourselves in support of those of those whose actions disregard Christ…”

              • you are confusing secular Judaism and politics with zionism and banking.

                Just because rothchild happened to support the establishment of Israel, does not mean it is a zionist banker conspiracy, and that any secular jew is a political conspirator and a rich banker.

                also just because the religious jews annoy the secular ones does not mean that the secular ones are the only ones whose “actions disregard Christ.”

                the same can be said for many relgious jews, muslims, palestinians, and many christians.

                • Hi Marianne,

                  I think you have been slightly misleading in your reply. I never mentioned secular Judaism, although I did mention secular/apostate Zionism..it seems to be part of your argument to use such terminolgy to cause confusion. Anyway, secular Judaism would seem to be a contradition in terms, in the same way that secular Christianity would be too! Mind you in an anything goes world, nothing would surprise me. Ah yes, secular Judaism or apostate Judaism..that’s it..mixed with a touch of nationalsm just about sums up Israel today. As such YHWH has dubbed political Zionism/nationalism the whore in Revelation!

                  Zionism is about a community of people called Zionists (not exclusively Jewish but mostly) who believe that Jews have a right to a homeland, which according to the bible is the land of Israel..their ancesteral birthright as a promise made to them by YHWH, and one which they will posses for ever. This belief is based on the promises given by YHWH to Abram Gen 12. Abram was blessed because he trusted in YHWH’s promises. But as mentioned in my earlier post Rom 2: 28-29 which tells us that the faith of Abraham, is evidensed in those who cross over from sin to salvation in Christ. It’s circumcision of the heart and not of the flesh..it’s always been that way..even for Abraham who looked forward to Christ’s day, in whom those promises have been sealed.

                  The return of the Jews to their ancestral homeland is a fulfilment of prophecy, and therefore the means whereby this has occured is imaterial. The Old Covenant has gone, and a New and better Covenant has superseded it in Christ’s blood..our passover Lamb. Of course, YHWH has not forgotton His chosen people the Jews, who are remembered for the sake of their ancestral fathers such as Abraham; Issac; and Jacob..Rom 11:28. It’s YHWH’s intention to bring the promised Kingdom to the Jews, and as such a remnant will be saved for the Age to come.

                  It’s good to be excited about the Jews having returned home to the land of Israel, however, let’s maintain our Christian perspective here, and not get into the realms of praising them for their politics and nationalism. We as Christians are pilgrims and sojourners in a world of unbelief, and it’s not for us to take sides..not even with Zionism as a political entity. It’s YHWH’s perogative to chose whomever He wants to do His Will, but it’s not ours to salute them should they disregard YHWH’s laws, in order to achieve it. It is sufficient for us to have faith and to be still, and observe the Hand of YHWH at work with His people, and to act as watchmen in sounding the trumpet heralding Christ’s imminent return.

                  Zionism has become much more than a claim on their ancestral homeland, and one which has developed into trans-nationalism; globalisation; and usury through monopolies and control of politics and finance. The whole global system is riddled with Political Zionism which has spread abroad via various agencies e.g Mossad; CIA; MI6 etc which all comes under the umbrella of political Zionism of one kind or another.

                  As you so rightly say, it’s not only Jews who trash YHWH’s laws, and show total diregard for Christ’s law of love. Islam accepts Jesus as a prophet, but not as a Saviour..as is true of all people outside of the Christian faith. Sadly, even Christians let the side down, and we all do on occasions because of human nature. However, because of the cleansing blood of Christ, which purifies us from all sin provided we are truly repentant, it is therefore unique.

                  • zionism has nothing to do with global finance. There is no effort of Israel to take over the world.

                    • Hi Marianne,

                      I did try to reply sooner, however, my PC had a slight problem.

                      You have stated that Zionism has nothing to do with global finance. There seems to be enough evidence from historical records, as well as communications that Zionism and global finance is linked. OK, so let me put it another way..global finance has something to do with political Zionism! The Rothschilds and Rockefellars have contributed heavily to the cause of Zionism, and therefore the world of finance which both parties control is interwoven with the politics of Zionism..they are inseperable! In fact the Rothschilds once said (I paraphrase)..own nothing control everything. Theodore Herzl who held the first Zionist Congress in Basle around 1896/97 was an agent of the Rothschilds. 1 Tim 6:10 “For the love of money is the root of ALL evil….” Therefore, the love of money is synonymous with evil, and therefore it goes without saying, that all enterprises steming from the worship of money is likely to be bear the hallmark of the very same evil.

                      The problem in all of this, is the belief that money can achieve anything and everything. To assume that one can control the world by financial entrapment, and use that same power to presume a right of ownership over the Holy Land. The Holy Land, and Jerusalem is not up for grabs by those who feel they can take possession of it by political intrigue or machinations, and hold onto it by aggression..whoever they are. So many different religous groups (Coptics; Greek Authodox; Ethiopian Authodox; Mulims; and yes..Jews!) believe the Holy Land belongs to them as a right..it doesn’t. The Holy Land was promised to Abraham and his seed i.e. Jesus Christ. Gal 3:7 “know ye thereforethat they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.” When the Pharisees had claimed Abraham as their father, it was on the basis of the flesh and not by faith..it was a presumption. Gal 3:26 “For ye are all the children of God by faith (the faith of Abraham) in Christ Jesus. The inheritance promised to Abraham was to the faithful..both Jew and Gentile..it’s a free gift..you can’t buy it!!!

                      Of course, YHWH states that the Jews are beloved for the sake of the fathers. As such there will be a small number of Jews who will show the same faith around the time of Jacobs trouble when their hearts will be turned back to the fathers/the faith of Abraham. Presumption is a dangerous place to be with YHWH, before whom we all must walk circumspectly.

  147. http://www.henrymakow.com/perfidy_the_story_the_zionists.html

    You need to read this.

    • here are the original boundaries

      The current residents of the “Palestinian” areas are refugees from the surrounding arab nations….they were trouble so the other countries kicked them out….now they are trouble in Israel… yassar arafat was egyption, not palestinian…etc.

      these arab immigrants into israel came there looking for jobs after Israel was created and became successful ……the land was barren and was barely inhabited at the beginning of the 1900s….the “palestinians” were poor and uneducated and had not job skills…they depended on the Israelis for education, medical care, and job training….which still goes on today……once Yassar arafat came in, the trouble started and terrorism against initiated…….it has been that way ever since…this was in addition to the 5 arab nation attack againstg Israel in 1948 and 1967………

      none of the land ever belonged to the Palestinians….it belonged to the Turks for 400 years, and then the British…..like I said, the place was barren and hardly inhabited during that time.
      There wer very few jews and arabs living there…….the arabs finally outnumbered the jews by blocking immigration during the 20s and 30s so that hitler could kill the jews.

      The Israelis do not violate anyone’s rights…they just fight to defend themselves from arab aggression and have repeatedly given away land for peace.

      The palestinians are not innocent…they are quite evil and mentally disturbed. The ancient phillistines were always considered god’s enemies, which is why God told the Israelites to kill them all.

      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/yhvh-gods-one-state-solution/

      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/bible-predicts-final-fate-of-gaza-and-palestinians/

      Only if these arab people turn away from their violent hate, lies, and terrorism and accept Jesus as their savior will they ever have a chance.

      Jesus is coming back for the jews as Messiah. He can come back for them too, if they stop their hate and propaganda campaigns and learn to live in peace with Israel.

    • that is just hate propaganda

  148. Hi to Marianne and to all..greetings in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Please don’t misunderstand me..I am not anti semetic or anti Zionist. If my child is in the wrong, or myself for that matter, then either my child or myself, have to own up to those wrongs rather than lie to conceal those wrongs..it’s all about truth.

    You are right in saying that Zionism didn’t start with the Rothschilds, and I never said that it did. There are many different forms of Zionism, and the Rothschilds is just one of them! We have to realise that YHWH had many issues (that’s anunderstatement) with His chosen people the Jews. The Jews were chosen to be a light in a dark world of sin, to show the world how YHWH wanted others to live, and to give glory to His name YHWH. The parables were aimed primarily (although they are there for our benefit too) at the Jews. YHWH had sent many prophets to His people to plead with them to get back on track, and to be a Holy Nation of priests who would witness to that very glory in the Highest. Unfortunately, the Jews (in the main) proved to be a stiffnecked people, and so it remains to this very day. Finally, YHWH sent His only Son, as one last opportunity to plead with His people to listen to Him. Malachi 3: 1-2 “Behold I will send my messanger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messanger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth.” When news came that the long promised Messiah had been born in Bethlehem in the days of Herod..Herod was troubled “and ALL Jerusalem with him.” The people who had said they desired the Day of the Lord, were troubled by the fact that he had arrived!

    The Lord Jesus Jn ch 8:44 “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.” Of course the Jews eventually murdered the Son of YHWH. A very chilling self indictment ensued..Math ch 27:25 “Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and our children.” Believe you me, the prophecies suggest that the time of Jacob’s touble, will make the holocaust look like a minor kinder garten scuffle. unfaithful Israel continues today, and has manifested itself in varying forms of Zionism of which we will endevour to unmask. I will attempt to do this on a seperate post.

    • hi hedley

      I agree with the ancient scriptures about the state of Israel at the time, but I would not confuse ancient Israel with modern Israel. The Jews were very traumatized by the holocaust, and there is a very large portion of Jews that have been faithful to God for many centuries. Assuming modern Israel is a pagan, idol worshiping state would be a mistake. Zionism has nothing to do with paganism or unbelief on the part of Israel, or anyone who helped Jews to get to their homeland.

      • Well, where to start with Zionism, and what does it exactly mean? Zionism means different things to different people. So, are we speaking the same language here, or not as the case may be.

        I suppose in one sense it helps by starting with the Phaisees and Saducees, who thought they had a claim on the land of Israel (the Hope of Israel) and salvation, on the basis that Abraham was their father. However, the unfaithful (both Jew & Gentile) will never enter into the land of promise. The wilderness journey during the Exodus, equates to our wilderness journey as pilgrims in Gentile times. One can only claim to be a true decendant of Abraham by faith, not by circumcision of the flesh. The land of Israel doesn’t ultimately belong to secular Israel, anymore than it belongs to the Arabs/Palestinians, rather it belongs to Christ whose right it is to be the King of Israel, and his bride..the New Jerusalem.

        Natural Israel, are back in the land as promised by YHWH, but not for their benefit necessarilly, it’s to show all of us (Jew included of course) that YHWH is faithful and true, so that all of mankind might be persuaded to give YHWH the glory and the praise. No greater glory and praise can be given to YHWH, than for individuals to accept Christ as their Saviour. The greatest danger for us as Christians, is to stand alongside Israel in a nationalistic way, and patronise their misdeeds as well as their anti Christ stance, for which they have blood on their hands. That’s not to say that people aren’t well intended when they patronise natural Israel. After all, when Israel is the living proof of prophecy fulfilled, and we witness the hand of YHWH in their ahievements, it’s ever so easy to get politically involved. The arguments about whose land it is, and where the Palestinians came from (Jordan originally) is both pointless, and futile. Will we be disappointed when things suddenly turn bad for Israel. Will our faith waver when the helping-hand of YHWH, is withdrawn from Israel until they repent.

        Of course, the holocaust was terrible which was of a brutality that makes one weep. Jesus wept in the knowledge that Israel was going to suffer in AD 70. The Jews are going to suffer again before they accept Christ, when Jerusalem will be overturned a third time. Only when the Jew has humbled him/herself and cry out “Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord” will YHWH rescue them..they will be few in number.

      • Hi Marianne,

        Without wanting to bore the socks of you..just a bit more about Zionism. Whilst I am in agreement with you that Zionism didn’t either start or finish with the Rothschilds, they did have a lot of influence over modern Zionism, and have played the biggest part in it in modern times, allbeit behind the scenes.

        Some commentators have stated that modern Zionism started in France with Rabbi Zevi back in 1791. Sabbatai Zevi was a false Messiah, who claimed to be the promised saviour of the Jews, and had been sent to establish the Jewish kingdom in the land then known as Palestine. Zevi was a highly controversial figure who trashed the Talmud, and viewed the Commandments of YHWH with contempt. Zevi actively encouraged his fellow Jews to do exactly the opposite of what YHWH commanded them to do. Zevi taught that sin and guilt were no more, and that the Commandments were therefore null and void. Zevi’s movement gained momentum which eventually lead to the emancipation of many Jews throughout central europe. However, it has to be recognised that political Zionism was already there in europe with the Rothschilds, and various moneychangers before them. Aaron of Lincoln had become a threat Henry the 1st (not entirely sure if it was Henry 1st but it was one of the medieval Kings) who had become more wealthy than the King of England. Aaron of Lincoln was chaging the status quo of English politics with his finacial influence, and was told to pach his bags and go in the direction of europe!

        The many different forms of Zionism include socialist Zionism as with Ber Borochov; religous Zionsim as with Rabbi Kook; revisionist nationalists as with Jabotinsky; cultural Zionism as with Asher Ginsberg; and last but by no means least political/financial Zionism as with the Rothschild’s and affiliates. Zionism has eveolved and assumed many different titles and flavours depending on their country of origin, as well as the intellectual/politcal currents of those nations. Therefore, no single person or publication; quote or pronouncement, should be understood as embodying “official” Zionist ideology.

        The danger as already mentioned in my previous post: is that we glory in the achievements of secular Israel who in their present state of unbelief, do all the things that unbelievers do, whose lifestyles are anethema to YHWH..not least because in the main they are currently anti-Christ. Jesus detected a sense of nationalism amongst the disciples, when they remarked on the fine buildings that stood out large and proud, matched equally by the large and proud heart of the nation’s own achievements. Jesus said of those buildings that not one stone would be left upon another..Zionism was in the nations psyche even then!

        • hedley

          You have a perverted and extremely erroneous view of scripture, god’s view of Israel and biblical prophecy.

          Israel has done nothing wrong to merit such disparagement and Zionism is a pure effort of god.

          God will judge the nations as to how they treated Israel at Christ’s return, and will make an end to any nation who has made them suffer, either physically or through slander.

          The Jews are in the land to benefit them. they deserve to be there.

          Stop reading garbage on the internet written by bloodthirsty, demon driven enemies of Israel.

  149. Hi All …
    Mark of The Beast is 666, 6+6+6=18, A1H8 is A.H. initials, of for example Adolf Hitler, and german currency was named DEUTSCHE MARK, so, but my fathers name initials are also A.H., and we live in 3roomed flat on the 6th floor so 666 number, and me was born in year count of 19, 1+9+7+2, my fathers name forms WORD of HUM-AN, which is mentioned in apocalypse of John Divine. So I am the Son Of HumAn

    • Peter

      Playing with numbers will not give you truth. Read the bible, especially Matthew 24 and the book of Revelation. we are all humans. People’s initials do not matter. What does matter is whether you have the protection of Jesus in the dangerous days ahead of us.

  150. Hi Marianne,

    First of all it has to be said: there is nothing more perverse than a false prophet! Just read Jer 23:14 “I have seen in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing…they strengthen the hands of eveildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the habitants thereof as Gomorrah.” It seems there are people in todays world who would strengthen the hands of evildoers, even if it’s merely condoning the actions of those who live contrary to the Laws of God, and the love of Christ!!!

    Math 27 v’s 19 & 24. The Lord Jesus was put to death at the request of the Jews. Even Pontious Pilot washed his hands of Christ’s fate, and Pilot’s wife sent a message to him that she had been troubled in a dream over Jesus being an innocent man. Such was the urgency of her dream, that she pleaded with Pilot not to have anything to do with the anti Christ’s request..the Jews who bayed for his blood! Of course, YHWH continues to want to save the nation of Israel from their enemies, but only once they have recognised their anti-Christ mentality. Why is that Zech 14:1-2 “Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be devided in the midst of thee. For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.”

    So you think things have changed with modern day Zionism, and you wish to take a political stance alongside their anti-Christ belligerence, and the Lord’s blood they have on their hands. The national guilt of Israel will not be removed until the Jews as a nation have accepted Christ as their Messiah..that’s not going to happen until their hardness of heart has been broken. The book of Revelation is a concentation of all the prophetic utterances of YHWH (which Jesus took from the prophecies) concerning the End Times, and how that will manifest itself concerning the nation of Israel, and the fate that awaits them. So, all we can do is pray in earnest for YHWH’s chosen people the Jews, but to applaud their unbelief and the actions eminating from unbelief is not the MARK of someone who claims to be on the Lord’s side.

    • Yes, Israel needs to be saved, but they have not done anything as a nation in modern times to deserve the slander against it and the political accusations of its demonic enemies.

      zionism is an act of God.

  151. Hedley, you accuse Israel of something that was an act of God…their failure to recognize Christ as Messiah. Scripture is clear concerning the God-induced deafness and blindness of the remnant..and concerning the 7000(meaning only God knows the true number) who were left with open eyes and ears so they could receive the Gospel.

    Isaiah 6: 10-13. Romans chapter 11.

    Ro 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.

    4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

    5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

    7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

    8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

    :9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompense unto them:
    11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.

    12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

    15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?

    16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches. 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.

    And they are grafted in again in the following: Re 11:13 And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.

    As Marianne said, Zionism is an act of God. Christ came to die on the cross. God gave them blind eyes so they could not recognize Elias and therefore could not recognize Messiah and would cry, ‘Give us Barabas!’ But Christ covered their buts but good when He prayed from the cross on their behalf, “Father, forgive them. They know not what they do.”

    I have responded in this way, not to convince you, but to give honor to God’s covenant people, Israel….all who are of the faith of Abraham.

  152. Hi Internet Elias,

    The tragedy of unbelief!

    I have to agree with everything you have quoted from the scriptures..it’s very refreshing. However, whilst the kingdom of YHWH is Israel centric, and we the gentiles have been grafted into the olive tree, that doesn’t allow us to applaud everything that Zionism stands for, especially as YHWH Himself does not defend their unbelief, or the behaviour which eminates from such sin.

    The tragedy of Israel’s unbelief is indeed the fate that awaits them, out of which a remnant will be saved, and as such we can all make such an outcome, the focal point of our most earnest prayers. Whilst Jesus did ask YHWH to forgive His people for such a grievious sin, it remains that there will be those whose forgiveness for such a sin, will continue to be treated with utter contempt. Therefore, it is a vain thought to applaud secular Zionism, which is so prevelant in the corrupt political and finacial matrixes of the world’s satanic systems of government.

    Who owns the world’s banking system and controls global finance..Zionism in the name of the Rothschild’s and their affiliates i.e. the three arms of the world central bank..the IMF; the BIS in Basle Switzerland (where Theodor Herzl held the 1st Zionist conference); the World Bank, as well as most if not all of the central banks. Where the Zionists have failed to have an influnce over a country’s finance, it has caused that country trouble in one form or another. Oh yes, almost forgot..the global securities fund (approx £50 trillion) set up by Jacob Rothschild’s for the sole purpose of financing wars; terrorism; assinations; and toppling governments. The politics of the Arab-spring is being funded by this blood money, in order to create middle east democracies in the hope that Islam (the beast), can be controlled by Zionism in an effort to create a state of peace and safety for Israel. To think that Islam can be controlled by finacial entrapment as the rest of the world has will be the irony that leads to Israels undoing. So, I don’t applaud the misdeads of Zionsm, and yet I accept that YHWH allows such things to happen, because it is part of His Will and purpose that it should. In the same way I don’t applaud the fate that awaits YHWH’s covenant people the Jews, and again I accept that it’s part of YHWH’s plan with His chosen people.

    To let two notable people have the last say on this post..I qoute Abraham Lincoln after his re-election on the 8th Nov 1864 “The money power preys upon the nations in times of peace and conspires against it in times of adversity. It is more despotic than monarchy, more insolent than autocracy, more selfish than bureaucracy.”

    And, in 1898 Pope Leo XIII stated the following on the subject of usury. “On the one hand there is the party which holds the power because it holds the wealth, which has in its grasp all labor and all trade, whicch manipulates for its own benefit and its own purposes all the source of supply, and which is powerfully represented in the councils of state itself.

    Rapacious usury, which, although more than once condemned by the church, is nevertheless under a different form but with the same guilt, still practiced by avaricious and grasping men…so that a small number of very rich men have been able to lay upon the masses of the poor a yoke little better than slavery itself.”

  153. First do you understand why Islam was created or came about? Finding the truth about that may help find your answers to who Muslims are.

    My opinion is, God brought forth his son to man to redeem us or save us. Muslims think men are born pure and by praying and obeying Gods law they can enter paradise which is false.

    God knows SOME people obey the father and not the son, and some both, even some who don’t believe in any. But every man rather he beileve in the son are not is still under the law god. even if they dont believe in the son our god is still good.they do cry, they do weep, they do mourn, they prey and when they do the father hears them. He wants them to believe in the son in order to be saved, but they chose not to. Our God being Great, still loves them, the Quran in my opinion is real and accurate, because it is a nation founded by god, god doesn’t intend for every man to be a Muslim because that would mean everyman would not believe in the son. At the same time God knew some would reject his son, it was prophetized way before Islam even before Christ.

    IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN

    A house divided into itself shall not stand! God wants us to be one, but out of fear, pride or greed we do what WE want. Get it??? We divided ourselfs out of free will and GOD wants a relationship with everyman. We are encouraged to read the bible and Quran and decide for our self what is true, the problem is the vast majority read them with a presided mind, they find what they perceive as a lie because they are looking for lies not the truth.

    God could have destroyed the people that did not believe in his son if he wanted to, why not??? if they dont believe in jesus how can they ever enter heaven? By good works and deeds? By praying and not eating pork?

    No, We enter by grace and salvation. No amount of good deeds will ever be enough because we are born sinners and unfit for heaven. Unless washed by the blood of jesus. Some Muslims think just obeying the laws of God is enough to enter, its not, because you still are a sinner, since they reject the son they will have to endure tribulation,

    “Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.”
    Rev 3:20

    I don’t protect Christianity, I protect and promote truth. A lie isn’t a lie until you reveal the truth, and the truth isn’t the truth until proven true.

    VERY VERY VERY few Muslims thoroughly examine Christianity from a open heart and mind. If they did then they would know that their religion resulted out their disbelief in jesus. Christians should see it as a last resort for the men who rejected the son, its God saying he still loves them. (Note there is a difference between men who adhere to Gods will and reject Christ and men who think there is no GOD)
    Think about Jonah and the city of Nineveh, some people see it as just a city, some see it all the nation of Islam. Your mind will corrupt long before the Word of God, but understanding yourself as a man you realize without the spirit of truth your liable to be corrupt.

    Heres a mental picture think of it like this.

    A mother feeding her child at the table. The mother being a wise adult who so dearly cares about to childs welfare is feeding him healthy wholesome food thats good for him. The child, being a child, foolish and un knowing rejects the wholesome food, but instead wants junk food. So the mother being wise (all knowing), knows that the child must still eat. Rather it be the food that the best overall or the junkfood. The Mother so loves her child that she gives him free will to eat whatever he wants. TO THIS MOTHER IT IS BETTER TO EAT JUNK FOOD THAN TO STARVE.

    The mother is GOD, the wholesome food is Christianity, the junk food is Islam. And starve is to be without god.

    In present day Islam is fulled with members who try and force the hand of god, kill people, condem people etc etc. They forgot our God is a God of love not hate. Our God knows everything he can see people who are evil and will turn away from their sinful ways. Man can’t see this. But man makes an attempt to punish said man…. on the behalf of GOD.

    • dear saved

      we just need to pray for those who do not know the truth, and be open to help them.

    • Have you read the Qu’ran and the Haddith in full? How can you possibly believe that they are true or accurate in any way shape or form? Do you believe in pedophilia, necrophilia, men who have up to 9 wives and then have “temporary marriages” so as to not blaspheme? What about murdering all of your family because they think you are a fraud? What about genocides? Razing whole towns if they don’t want to convert or just taxing them extra? What about A man shall not have to answer as to why he beats his wife? What about the words of Mohammed himself: “I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken.”
      ~MUHAMMAD (Al-Tabari 6:111)

  154. Actually, as a Muslim I can tell you that is incorrect. 666 has no meaning in Islam, the number doesn’t appear in Quran nor hadith. That convoluted math to try and make something Islamic is as absurd as that now-debunked Bible Code that was popular a decade ago.

    • dear brothersulayman

      I hope it is not true. But I have heard other muslims admit that the greek letters spell out bismallah…..so I get different feedback on this.

      • I can read Arabic, it does not spell that. Some say bismillah looks like 786, but that is quite different.

        • maybe that explains it…..this is an ex muslim but he still reads arabic

          • I watched the video, and Mr. Shoebat is incorrect. (He’s been wrong before, Anderson Cooper called him out on it during his show) He shows the basmala, written as
            بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم
            If you look at the greek letters written above in the article ( Χ ξ ς ), they look nothing alike. Also, Arabic-speaking Christians also say the phrase, which means “in the name of God.”

            • you have to look at the greek sideways to get this. the ξ

              the X is the crossed swords.

              I am not arabic, so I have to go by what people say that know the language.

              • Even if you do, what do you get? One letter matching out of an entire phrase. You don’t have to know Arabic, just look at the two phrases I pasted in my above post. They don’t look similar at all. Of all the things Christians should be talking about, this is a dead end and a waste of time.

                • this is just one of many posts. I look at details. It can be from any religion. I can be critical of Christianity also. there are different interpretations of what 666 means, so this is just one of them.

                • some people think 666 is the number of the pope, or Prince Charles…..it is a mystery, so people try to solve the puzzle.

                • Hi brothersulayman,

                  I am an apostolic Christian, or one who tries to view the scriptures without the politics, in which so much Christianity has unfortunately immersed itself!

                  I have to agree with you, that the Greek letters for 666 do not look exactly the same as the Arabic for bismallah. Besides, to be precise the numbers are 600 60 6. It’s only if you do some very serious juggling or even more serious stretching of the imagination, that you can (with a great deal of straining) see some resemblance between the Greek letters Chi Xi Stigma, and the Arabic for bismallah.

                  I have read on another web-site that Rev 13:18 starts with the phrase “Hode este sophia” or “Here is wisdom”. Apparently it’s a colloquial way of saying: here is a riddle, and therefore, it can be read in more than way! The gramma of which I am not familiar with, is said to be called an amphiboly. The riddle is not just about the number..that’s only half of it. Rev 13:18 continues “Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six.” This should then solve the problem as to who or what the beast is?

                  So, if it’s not just about counting anumber, then what is it? To count in the original Greek is psephizo and means to cast a pebble into an urn..to vote in order to decide or determin an outcome. Number in the original Greek is the word arithmos and means any number or multitude..when the word number is in the context of a person or people, it’s more correctly translated multitude.

                  What the apostle John wrote was of future events that would herald the second coming of Jesus Christ. The apostle John did not so much see a number but a riddle..a hidden message..Chi Xi Stigma. The number 666 shows numerically that the riddle can be read the same way forwards and backwards and is gramatically known as a palindrome, and it could be multi-lingual i.e Greek and Arabic?

                  So, it could read: for this is the multitude of a man, and his multitude is in the name of Allah? Whether the apostle John saw Arabic letters and mistook them for Greek I don’t know, and will reserve judgement on the subject of 666!

  155. Hi again brothersulayman,

    I would just like to clarify, that whilst I stated it was difficult to see any similarity between the Greek and Arabic letters for Chi Xi Stigma and bismallah, I do believe that Arabic and other Islamic countries make up an empire which constitutes the beast of Revelation. Therefore, for this reason it’s not hard to believe, that there could be something in Walid Shoebat’s view, on the Greek letters meaning something to do with, or associated with Allah.

    There’s been a lot of historical/archaeeological research, as well as many extensive studies carried out on the origins of Islam, and I have to say it doesn’t look good. It becomes quite obvious that Muhammad came from a background of paganism where his family (the Quraysh tribe), had a history of worshiping the moon god allah. Long before Muhammed came on the scene the whole of the western arabian region, prayed towards and worshiped the idol moon god (allah) in Mecca. What Muhammed also did was to plagiarize the word of YHWH i.e. the Torah and the New Testament, in order to create a hybrid religion, which was nothing more than a reformation of paganism, and another type of Imperialism. Constantine did a similar thing, by adopting pagan forms of worship into Christianity known as Catholocism, or Imperialist Christianity. Zionism is another form of Imperialsm otherwise known as political Zionism, which has been heavily financed through the Rothschilds and Rockefellar banking dynasties. One of the chief propounders of modern Zionism was a Rothschild agent Theodore Herzl. Today Zionism and the financial world are inseperable, and control the security services such as Mossad; CIA; and MI6; as well as influence most of the politics in the world etc.

    A lot of people get confused with Zionist Jews, and orthodox Jews. Orthodox Jews in the main have little time for Zionism, and claim that Zionism goes against the Torah and the Talmud. Orthodox Jews unlike their Zionist counterparts, make no presumption over ownership of the land of Israel. It is the belief of orthodox Jews that Messiah will give them the land when the time is right. The only thing is orthodox Jews have yet to realise that their Messiah is the one they crucified..the Lord Jesus Christ. This will happen when the beast plays its part in trying to destroy the nation of Israel. However, when the Jews cry out to YHWH, the beast itself will be destroyed by the return of Jesus Christ.

    There’s probably a whole load of other stuff to say, but I’m always very busy and therefore very limited to time.

  156. This is a lie, Christian knows that Islam is the true religion thats y they try to show others that Islam is bad, but no problem, when people face god they will realise that they were tricked by the priests and other idiots that show and tell wrong things about Islam and trust me that you will fave god very soon

  157. First, it is important to understand how and why the number 666 even acquired significance in some cultures although it has absolutely no significance in Islamic theology.

    The most prominent and direct origin of the significance for the number 666 is the one in the New Testament, which proclaims that the mark of the devil is the number 666: “Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.” (Revelation 13:18, King James Version)

    Los Angeles Times writer Michael Muskal notes the following:

    It is in the New Testament that 666 makes its appearance as the sign of evil, the Beast, the Devil, the Antichrist who marks the forehead or right hand of all as a sign of his supremacy. Because Greek and Hebrew letters are associated with numbers, the letters of the name of Evil spell out the numbers 666. Some argue the sign is really 616, but 666, with its outsized numerological mysteries, seems to be the favorite interpretation.

    Even among Christians and people of other faiths, there is disagreement as to the significance of 666 as being the number of the devil. But this brief background helps to give readers a better idea of why the number 666 even came to be important.

    Second, with regards to Islam, the number 666, or any other number for that matter, has no significance whatsoever. In fact, Muslims have been warned from assigning significance or meaning to signs, symbols, and icons of any kind.

    The religion itself demands absolute conviction and commitment to monotheism, that is, the unity and the oneness of Allah (God), and to the Qur’an and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as the authentic, unadulterated sources of Islamic teachings.

    Muslims do believe there is a being known as Shaytan (Satan), who is an avowed enemy of mankind and whose sole purpose is to lead mankind astray, away from Allah, and tempt us to do evil.

    However, in Islamic teachings, there is neither a form nor a shape, nor a sign nor a number, nor an icon nor an idol associated with Satan. Further, Muslims are prohibited from engaging in any form of fortune-telling, divining, visiting soothsayers, or holding superstitious beliefs. For more on this and on the Islamic view of the supernatural, see the special page on Magic & Jinn in Islam.

    Finally, it is important to note that without exception, beliefs and ideologies that are man-made are prone to error, as they are entirely products of human imagination.

    Therefore, the number 666 or any other such sign or symbol to which human beings have attributed significance or meaning, have little utility, if any, other than to lend a false sense of control and security to those who would believe in them.

    For Muslims, comfort, solace, security, and peace all emanate from Allah — from faith in Allah (God) and from trust in Allah alone to be the best disposer of human affairs, as He is the loving Creator of us all. No numbers game, algorithm or formula, no matter how imaginative, can substitute for the power of God and God alone. And God knows best.

    • hello thankful

      Thank you for your comment. There are many views of many issues, and I present all of them for discussion, and allow disagreement. The work of Satan in this world is an important one, so discussion is crucial.

      Some say he will work through a man, others say he will work through a bad church, others say he will work through governments.

      We should all stay watchful, as the truth unfolds. Satan can work in any environment except when we praise God, and we show holy behavior.

    • Hi thankful.

      There has been extensive archaeological, and historical studies to show that the name Allah which is attributed to the god of muslims, was a pagan god which existed long before the prophet Muhumad came on the scene. Allah was the name given to the Arabian moon god, which had resided in Mecca along with many other idol gods. The moon god was widely worshiped across the fertile plain, and Muhamud just changed the theological dynamics of a pagan faith that was already up and running. This is why in some Muslim countries we see the crescent moon on their national flags. Allah is no more a real god than the paper the Quran is written on. On the other hand YHVH the God of Israel proves He is real through the nation of Israel, and the Jews, as well as the Covenant promises He made to them. There is only one true God..YHVH..and His only true prophet Yeshua the Christ..amen.

  158. This is reply to Headley,
    I will state again that in islam symbols like the crescent moon has no significance whatsoever. Muslims have been warned from assigning significance or meaning to signs, symbols, and icons of any kind.

    The Lord of muslims is the Lord of Adam and Eve, Christians, jews and the whole universe, he is the one and only. God has many names that represent who he is and his features, and one of his names in islam is Allah.

    Allah looks at peoples’ hearts and not their looks or races.

    I ask God to guide all humanity to the righteous path, Amin!

  159. The immediate problem we have with one God for all religions, is that the One God (YHVH) doesn’t contradict himself by saying one thing for one religion, and then something else for another. The bible and the Quran (as are other religous writings) are at variance with each other, and are therefor diametrically opposed to each other. For example, the bible states that the blessings given to Abraham fell to Issac, and then to Jacob, continuing on down to the twelve tribes of Israel etc. Muhamad (who was a descendant of Ishmael) changed all of this to say that the Abrahamic blessings were confered upon Ishmael..Abraham’s first born. Muhamad changed the theology for his own ends, and went around raiding the trade caravans transversing the desert highways of Arabia, to steel and murder in the name of an idol god Allah. This kind of religous imperialism wasn’t confined to just Islam, but to Christianity too. Chrstian imperiailsm also murdered in the name of their God, and in doing so broke away from apostolic ministry to become apostate Christianity. Therfore, their God is also not the same God as mine. The question we should ask ourselves is: does salt and fresh water come from the same spring?

    Whilst there is possibly some common ground with all religous writings, the bible is unique with the same theme, and message running throughout the entire book. Christ and the salvation of mankind through Yeshua, was promised to the world from the very beginning. This very theme grows ever larger and larger, until the full magnitude of YHVH’s love is revealed in the man himself..both son of man and Son of God..Yeshua the Christ. After YHVH’s annointed prophet Yeshua there is no other, because YHVH’s work is finished (“it is finished”), and finally achieved through the Saviour our Lord.

    So, no we don’t worship the same God (YHVH) or revere the same prophet Yeshua (Son of God)..who was also a priest and a King after the order of Melchizedek.

    • You confuse the Universal Church with Christianty. Christianity does not follow a man who tells them to murder in G-d’s name. They follow a God/man name Jesus Christ who died for them.

      You are correct about Muhammad.

      • Hi Leatherneck,

        Not too sure if we are saying the same thing or not. My reference to Imperialist Christianity was with emperor Constantine in mind, and others who have followed in his footsteps as in the Crusades, both in the past and present. Crusades where priests and bishops are only too willing to bless the bomb; brutality; and bloodshed in the name of their god..not my God.

        No one ever died in the presence of Christ whilst he was alive, and Christ himself forbade the use of violence in any situation no matter what the circumstances. It’s about accepting our situation in life however traumatic things might be, and to trust in YHVH even if it pleases Him to bruise us, and not hit back at those YHVH has allowed to overpower us. I see Islam and the teachings of Mohamud as contrary to the teachings of Yeshua, who believe in fighting it out for almost any reason, as long as it’s in the name of allah..bismallah! Sadly, such a murderous theology resonates within Imperialist forms of Christianity today.

        Do we accept the Lord’s Will for us, or do we try to determin the outcome through our own strenghts and works. It’s a bit like the Zionists/Jewish nationalists today who are trying to achieve their right to a homeland by works, and continue to live in the Tabernacle of Moses of burnt offerings. The Tabernacle of Moses was based in Gibeah and has an association with the Gibeonites who were hewers of wood, and drawers of water..it was all about works. The Tabernacle of David on the otherhand, had the Ark of the Covenant and was based in Jerusalem, and represented mercy and grace which pertains unto Zion..YHVH’s Holy Mount and Christ’s work through the Holy Spirit.

        So, just as we have a misappropiation of the word Zion by Jewish nationalists, so the same applies to those who use the name of Christ for their bloodletting crimes against his neighbour!

        • Ok, I’m almost 100% with you. Christ said turn the other cheek, he did not say be a fool, or Amish.

          He drove out the money changers, and stood up to evil strongly.

          In the Marine Corp we trun the other cheek twice. It goes lie this. Halt. Halt. No third halt, just destruction.

          • Hi Leatherneck,

            I have to say, I am a little confused by your statement of turning the other cheek twice, and then just destruction. I was wondering where I might find that command in the teachings of Christ, and that you might like to point it out to me. Yes, Yeshua certainly showed a righteous anger towards those who misused the temple for worldy gain. However, whilst Yeshua was apt to give strong rebukes, he only used words to pierce the conscience of his adversaries, and did not engage them a round of rapid fire from GPMG.

            Even the apostle Paul in all of his sufferings only counted the experience as an honour for Christ. 2 Cor 11:24-25 “Of the Jews five times received I forty stripes save one.Thrice was I beaten with rods, once was I stoned …” The apostle Paul turned the cheek many times.

            In the sermon on the mount, we have instruction from the Lord as to how we are to conduct ourselves, in daily service and sacrifice. Math 5: 21-22 “Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou sahlt not kill; and whoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgement: But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgement…”

            When the arresting party came upon Yeshua in the garden, Yeshua didn’t say halt, halt, etc he treated them kindly, and accepted what was about to happen to him was in the purpose of YHVH. Yeshua was in no way about to use violence to try and force events in a particular way. Yeshua could have called upon legions of angels, but he chose instead to obey his Father.

            If we chose to live in a way which is contrary to the good name of YHVH, then we could also misappropriate the name of God by our conduct. In a similar way, Ananias and Sapphira had been called into fellowship and set aside by the Holy Spirit to coduct their lives in an appropriate way for the Lord. However, in misappropriating the funds given for the work of YHVH, they had also missappropriated the glorious name of God. YHVH prefers mercy, and even He takes no delight in the destruction of the most evil and wicked people, and we mortals certainly have no right to say halt halt, bang bang, double tap or whatever, and then destruction etc

            • I was not stating Christ used deadly force on his first visit. Only, he was not Amish.

              The Marine Corp is not Amish as you already know, yet it is full of Christians. All of them do not want to use force, and will try their best to not use deadly force. Hence the attempt at halt twice.

              As you know, that is not in the Bible. Turning the other cheek is. That does not mean turning the other cheek to a point your wife, and children are murdered. Unless you think othewise, all Christians are not Amish.

              Do you think on this planet earth Christians are not suppose to defend what is theirs? Do you think good men should lay down their arms so evil can rule?

              • Hi Leatherneck,

                I have to say that whenever the going gets tough, I find it very difficult not to compromise on the commandments of YHVH, with prayer being the only remedy for such a situation. I can only imagine for those early Christians, who suffered terribly at the hands of their persecutors, that it must have been a mind-numbingly painful experience, to see their loved ones put to death for what they believed, and to turn the other cheek. Of course, if any of my family were threatened, I would like to think that I would make myself a sacrificial victim in order to save them. However, whatever I do will not make a blind bit of difference to the outcome, if it’s the Lord’s Will to allow a member of my family or myself, to die at the hands of the foe. We don’t have the power to stop it, if it’s the Lord’s Will. We don’t own anything..not our lives or our loved ones..everything belongs to YHVH, and we and our possessions are His to do with in whatever manner it so pleases Him.

                When Christian families including children were brought into the Roman arena as the last in line of the procession, who were then subjected to trials leading to their deaths for what they believed, it couldn’t have been easy to turn the other cheek.

                When those who were crucified had their families made to watch, if then anyone wathcing showed any emotion, were then subjected to the same fate, it couldn’t have been easy to turn the other cheek.

                When the apostle Peter was trialed and crucified for his faith as a Christian, insisted that he be crucified upside down, it couldn’t have been easy..and many others such as Stephen; Paul; John the Baptist etc all sufferd for their faith. Yet their faith was what made the suffering a joy, but they all turned the other cheek because that is what their Lord did!

                As for laying down ones arms, all peoples will have no choice but to do so in the Kingdom of YHVH, when they will be beaten into ploughshares..Isa 2:4 “And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into ploughshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: and nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall thay learn war anymore”.

                Christ is our example, and we listen to him because the sheep hear his voice. We do not listen to false shepherds who come in the guise of Christianity, either in the form of Imperialist or State approved Christianity or individuals, to devour the flock and deny those of the fold a place in the Kingdom. However, Christ always has and always will continue to pray for those who hear his voice so that none will be lost.

                • My kind will stand watch at night while you write freely.

                  • The Lord of Hosts stands watch over those who are His! It may well be that your kind are sent by YHVH, to act as guardians to those who are His. So even those who are self appointed warriors of this world, who superimpose laws of their own making over the commanments of Christ, and bring the teachings of Yeshua into disrepute, may well (ironically) have a place in serving those who belong to the Lord..the Almighty works in mysterious ways. Ps 46:7 “The Lord of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge”.

                    1Pet 2:19-23 “For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wronfully….For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps: Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth: Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously”.

                    Titus 1:16 “They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate”.

                    2Tim 3: 1-3; & 5. “This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, FIERCE, despisers of those that are good….Having a form of godliness but denying the power therof: from such turn away”.

                    So, I thank my Lord for all of my freedoms..to think; to write; to speak; and to act. My desire is to wear the full armour of YHVH, and not the full metal jacket, and to fight the battle against the sins of my human nature. Being a soldier of Christ is so far removed from the blood letting activities of the devil itself, and as far apart as east is from west, that never the twain shall meet. No doubt, the devil has many a rambo who are willing to spread the gospel of the gun, however, the gospel of Christ, is more than able to set us free from the tyrany of those who would have us in Satans sights.

                    It’s never too late to repent, so whilst we have our lives we should earnestly seek it. Sins which are not washed away and continue to cling, will always been known by our works!

                    • There are a lot of Christians in the Marine Corp. I know that as fact. George Washington fought for what his his, and he was devout.

                      I am not sure being Amish is true Christianty, but I support your right to be as such. BTW, I am no Rambo. Just a Platoon Sgt who believes in defending the poor, the weak, women, and children.

                      I pray to G-d the Father in Christ name. My heart through the Holy Spirit leads me to my belief. Perhaps, the Holy Spirit leads you to yours.

                      Peace.

  160. Hmmm im muslim,never heard of such a thing. Your just one of them, but seriously, like ron paul, the more they lie, the stronger the campaign. God forgive for spreading such falasies.

    • Hi Emma

      I got the information from muslim websites. It is not a campaign, but an effort to understand muslim thinking about the end times. I gave the references for the sites used.

    • Hi Emma, you say you are a Muslim, and you have never heard of such a thing. There has been extensive research by numerous scholars into all faiths and their origins, each being very knowledgable in their particular field of expertise. The best way to come to a rational truth about anything, is to ask pertinent questions such as to who why what when how etc, as well as to dig into the matter, and read around the subject. I would like to say that whilst I am no expert, I have been studying faith matters for around 32 years, and I really don’t like the things I read about Islam and the prophet Mohumad. You may not wish to put Islam in the dock, but many have (including myself), and I have found the Quran to be full of erronous waffle. The prophet Mohumad plagiarised the teachings of the bible to create a hybrid religion of paganism, Judaism, and Christianity with substitutions being made for the pagan moon god allah.

      In much the same way the universal church/imperialist Christianity, is as guilty of creating a hybrid religion out of Christianity and paganism just as Muhamed did. Therefore, by developing their own brands of YHVH’s teachings, both the universal church and Islam have corrupted the purity of YHVH’s message, which has lead to many conflicts and wars because the truth of YHVH is not in them.

      Furthermore, the Zionists have corrupted the meaning of Zionism, and use this corruption for their own political ends. Zionism is a mixture of paganism (e.g. the god of money), Judasim (the old Testament covenants), and politics (controlling world affairs). The Zionists have a vast international network controlling almost every aspect of human life. You only have to look at the historical records to see how the Rothschilds, Rockefellars, Goldmansachs etc, have used their great wealth to secure Zionist strongholds in the media, banking and finance industry, security services etc, to know that they have entrapped everyone and made us all slaves to their miserable ambitions.

  161. People.People.As a Muslim I do believe this 666 shit was shocking.It did put doubts into my head but that’s when I had to think.In Islam Latin is the language of the Devil.And based on what this article was about it confirms that.666 is not an important number in the Qur’an.There are not 6666 verses in the Qur’an as some would say.There is 6636 verses in the Qur’an. Honestly do you think that every muslim site is trust worthy?I don’t. You have different denominations in Islam with their beliefs.The radical muslims who wear “The mark of the beast” on their head are simply the radical muslims.They my friend,are going to hell.

  162. The Bible was changed Marianne.Here is proof.

    To start with the story says that there were 9 books of NT. Out of which about 4 or 5 were rejected by the Byzantine church and destroyed. What we see are the rest, in the NT. The Byzantine church held a conference in about 300 A.D. in Nicene. In this conference they unanimously decided under the King, that Jesus is the “Son of God”. And thus they picked and choose the NT and persecuted to death all those who were in opposition. The incidence in Quran regarding the 7 sleepers of the cave is regarding the young men, who chose NOT to yield to the oppression of the King and the Organized religion. They flee to save themselves from persecution and to profess that Jesus is the Son of God.

  163. Human hearts are prone to sentiment and promotion of vices. Islam and muhammad stand for truth and emancipation of man from evil and darkness. We all see and know what paul who was far from the 12 deciples of Jesus Christ stood for and upturn the Bible and put his own ideas(Revelatio) above all other books in Bible. Let all chrstians and all who believe in oneness of God know that Muhammad was sent by God to right the wrong mostly in the bible about Jesus ,how then can you attribute that to saver of the universe when paul confess that ‘ how would you accuse me if i lie and my gospel grow’ according to my local adage which says”the house built with saliva(lies) will be brought down by dew” according to islam antichrist mean Dajal which raer it self in all form of senseless and evil civilication of the west every truth seeker known as ; nakedness couroption adultery and all other forms of moral decadecies in the society.

    • There is no crime, adultery, corruption or moral problems in Islamic countries?

    • Muhammad enjoyed raiding caravans, taking slaves, and rape. He came from a family that worshiped Sin the moon god, also known as the god. One of 360 false gods at the Kaaba, or zero point.

      There is nothing in Historical fact that shows Abraham built the Kaaba. Nor, does the black rock take away sin. Muhammad never rode a winged horse from the dome of the rock to heaven. Winged horses do not exist.

      Islam, a political, and religious system is just like Muhammad. Filled with hate, rape, and blood shed.

      The G-d I worship has not asked me to murder for him. Instead, the G-d I worship lived a perfect life, was murdered, and rose from the dead. He now holds the keys to heaven, and hell.

  164. For any muslim who trying to reply to this wesite you must know the person who wrote this is a jew! surely you can see what their doing they always tired to hiding under the banner of christians and some of the replys are also jews so dont wast your time trying to reason with the synagogue of satan. its their mission to destroy the truth…

  165. first of all get your facts straight the number 19 is not holy in Islam nor is the number 666 as u say…the only holy number islam have is the number 7 …with goes by that God created the world in 7 days. so before u start going on with your false accusations i think u should check ur facts before u go on and talk about Islam and try to brainwash people to believe your lies…its funny how u dont back up ur words with references …for example from the Holy bible nor the Holy quran…..So if your goal is to try and say islam is a relgion of the satan…then May god have mercy on ur soul…because the last time i checked Muslims believes in God and The prophets…and they do believe in Jesus and the virgin mary Peace be upon them….. They are holy….. So i dont think a religion that believes in God and the prophets and Jesus…WORSHIPS SATAN…..and by the way ive studied 6 years of christianity and Im a muslim …so read the bible and the Quran before you go on and insult religion.

  166. who ever believes this idot is just a bigger dummy then he is…and just proves that ur athiest and dont believe in God…which clearly justifies satans actions…so this proves that this moron is a follower of satan whos just trying to corrupt people…add hatred and evil…which is the act of the devil. So I can care less about your lies and your pathetic theory That is attacking Islam…a religion In which God is worshiped…and dont give me ur bullS*** about terrorists…a persons bad actions reflects them personally but it has nothing to do with the religion…and let me enlighten u on something here and get a good deed out of a sinner like you…. those terrorists along with many others around the world who commited a crime and hurt innocent people are in hell….So dont attack the religion u uneducated satan worshiper. God created us…we are his children…and we worship him…and till the last day of our life we shall still worship him…and theres nothing u can do to change that…so ur mission has failed …and for all those who are affected by this person dont give in to his satanic words…do not become a follower of satan…JUST BELIEVE IN GOD….and Islam,Christianity,Jews all Believe in God. and As for you….. change ur ways and start believing in God and that means respect all religions who follow God. BY THE WAY all of what u said about muslims is completely untrue…so shows how much u know in life…hahahaha i laugh at poor people like u but i dont pity them…because ur the DEVIL himself…enough said. So for who ever goes by what u said is just as much as a devil as you are…now u can blab all u want my case here is closed.hahahahahaha

  167. Hey Lu,
    I’m a Christian and I agree with you that this number business is somewhere between a bit of a stretch and a whole load of crap. Marianne likes to explore al sorts of theories and go down all kinds of winding roads that take a bunch of detours so that in the end we are actually totally lost, in regards to the truth.
    The caveat here is to take it all with a grain of salt and if you don’t agree with it then go on to a different blog page.
    Of course, as Christians we believe that the only way to salvation is thru Jesus Christ who died for our sins and was resurrected and sits at the right hand of the father. Otherwise you have no chance.
    Jews and Muslims deny this, therefore if they fail to accept it, they are lost. So for us, just believing in God is not enough, and so therefore we will always be at odds when it comes to the true faith.
    The problem with the Koran is that it purports to be a continuation of the Old Testament and New Testament however it does not jive with the earlier books. We know that Mohammed could not read or write and that he learned the Old Testament from local Jews, who when they realized what he was doing with the information, decided to make up stories to screw him up. When Mohammed got wind of this he attacked the Jewish city and killed every man and took the women as slaves to sell. So now we have Miriam, the sister of Moses, also being Mary, the mother of Jesus. And the idea that Moses knew Noah personally. This collapses 4000 years of bible history into a couple of generations. No holy book, given by God could have such mistakes. Sorry, but Mohammed was not coached by God. God does not author such confusion.
    Like the book of Mormon, the Koran was written by a single confused man with an agenda. To start a new religion and to get rich thru tithing and to feed his own ego.
    Yup, us Christians have had our version of a “new prophet” and many have been fooled. But we all have free will, and it is everyone’s right to worship as they see fit, unless you are Muslim, of course. In that case, you are an infidel and the punishment is death.
    And while that sounds harsh to my Christian friends, we actually believe exactly the same thing. The only difference is, God will doing the punishment at the end of the 1000 year reign of Christ. All Muslims, including Mohammed will be resurrected and instructed in the true gospel and the word of God. They may then honor God or not – it will be their choice. Eternal life of the lake of fire. Many will take a chance that death in the lake of fire will result in a trip to heaven with 72 virgins (or whatever).
    You my brother will have to make that choice someday and I pray that your study of the bible will help you to make the right choice.
    So until then, pass the word, re-read the bible with an open mind. But be careful about converting – it will make you an infidel and Allah will call for your death. :)

  168. I have been called a lot of things, but never a Jew. That’s funny right there.

    In this section if I write what History records Muhammad doing, I am of Satan’s house, and a Jew.

    Between the Universal Church, and the moon god worshiping section, it appears to be a tough crowd.

  169. You should take more time to study.That greek stuff refers to YOUR Jesus christ. At the time the Bible was written in greek there was no such thing as J and was often replaced with a z. Zeus is almost what the name Jesus did make.Now since there’s a J that is what it was replaced with. The name Jesus makes 666.Don’t believe me?Look it up for your self.Heres a video for help. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC9Gl2zOT4I&feature=related

    • Well this video actually does prove one thing – with clever manipulation and taking things out of context, plus a few outright lies here and there, it is possible to prove almost anything!
      Of course the whole thing is just silly – Jesus is His own Antichrist. Really? So He will destroy himself when He returns? Really?
      It is obvious that the author has no idea what the Book of Revelation is all about. Jesus cannot be the beast of Revelation because He does not fit the rest of the prophecy. The beast is actually a kingdom (the Vatican) and the number 666 refers to the title of its leader, the pope. The apostasy is that the Catholic church considers the pope to be Jesus in the flesh, so in that respect the 666 does refer to a false Christ, and since the name Jesus is a pagan word that combines Jehovah and Zeus, the idea that it adds up to the same number as the false prophet (false Jesus) certainly does not surprise me.
      But your lack of understanding of the bible has led you to an erroneous conclusion. But you are not alone. The vast percentage of Christians have made similar mistakes. When Christ returns much of Christianity (the Babylon paganism) will be destroyed as will Islam and all other false religions. The true church is less than .01% of the worlds religion, so we will basically all be in the same boat. But as the bible says, The truth shall set you free, so I suggest you study it more closely so you will be better prepared for the coming millennium of Christ’s rule.
      If you are expecting anything else I’m afraid you will be greatly disappointed.
      Blessings…

      • I James,

        I have read where the false god Saturn, one of the Roman false gods, added up to 666. I can not remember, but Saturn and Mithrus maybe the same false god. Where we now have Christmas, we use to have Misthus and Saturn.

        I can see how the Universal Church has taken in all these false pagan Holidays, and tried to turn them into a Christian Holiday, but do you think the false prophet might be the next Pope, and the Anti-christ, Satan’s man on earth, also known as Saturn/Mithrus/Nimrod will be the individual leading the false 7 year treaty with Israel?

        • Leatherneck,
          I don’t believe there will be and Antichrist or a 7-year peace treaty. The Book of Revelation never uses the term Antichrist, and the descriptions such as the man of sin etc, all refer to the false prophet. There is the beast, False Prophet and Satan. The beast is a kingdom, just as in the book of Daniel. In this case, it is the Vatican, for who the pope is its figurehead or image. The peace treaty is the 70th week of Daniel which has been fulfilled by Christ, not an Antichrist.
          As for Saturn and Mithras, they are related and celebrated on the same day – Dec. 25. As for the numerology end, I’m not sure if their names add up to 666 or not, but probably not given how short they are and the fact that Saturn has no Roman numbers in it and the M in Mithras is worth 1000 which leaves it out, especially in The Price Is Right. :)

      • Hi James,

        I have to agree with you that the ‘truth’ will set us free, as indeed we are all praying it will. The Holy scriptures teaches us about other scriptures. I suppose we need to look for biblical precedents, and how once a precedent has been established, to then use the rule of first mention to see how this plays out within the general theme of the word of YHVH in its entirity. It’s also very important to remember that from Genesis all the way through to Revelation, the bible is Israel-centric, and how YHVH desires to establish His kingdom upon the earth, with Jerusalem as its capital and Christ as its King.

        The same old problem continues which is: the nation of Israel still rejects Yeshua as the Christ, and has never repudiated the crime of her farthers. If the rejection of YHVH’s Son was offensive in the first century, then it’s just as offensive today, and will continue to be so until the day Israel as a nation repents of this sin. Hence Israel will be subjected to a time of trouble such as never experienced throughout her entire history, when through adversity a remnant of them will repent, and Christ will intervene to save them from their enemies.

        YHVH has shown clearly that in recent history, He has been helping Israel, and yet as always their ingratitude persists. Israel sees her achievements from a purely pragmatic perspective, and believes that such achievements are based entirely upon human endeavour. Such an attitude was both vain and foolish in biblical times, and remains vain and foolish today. Even more astounding is the fact that these recent events in Israel’s history, show quite clearly that YHVH is working His purpose out with the nation, and that Israel’s wilful disobedience betrays the depth of her pervesity. Equally peverse are those who claim to follow the Prince of PEACE, who rally to Israel’s cause and Zionist agenda, and cheer her on when Israel makes fools of her enemies. Although YHVH is allowing the Zionists to fulfill His purpose, this does not reflect credit in any way on the people themselves. Ezekiel 36 v 22 “I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for my holy names sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went”.

        The bible talks about the destruction of the beast. We see this destruction described by means of imagery as in Nebuchadnezzars dream when it’s struck at the feet by Christ. The beast which Christ destroys is a composite structure consisting of all the empires standing in their entirity at the end of days. At the centre of this impending catastrophic event is Jerusalem because it is the epicentre, as well as the heart and mind of the beast empire. The Zionists support the beast from the feet upwards, and control it from the bridle down. Israel is the head that was “wouded to death” Rev 13 v 3..”and the world wondered after the beast”. No other nation has re-appeared upon the world stage with such suddeness, to make the impact that it has..Rev 13 v 4 “…who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him”. Israel’s enemies have so far been unable to defeat them. The whore of Revelation represents Israel and its capital Jerusalem, just as it did in Isa 1 v 21 “How is the faithful city become an harlot”. Also, the Jews are described as the inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorah Isa 1 v 10. For this reason Yeshua says talking of Jerusalem Lk 19 v 44 “And shall lay thee even to the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another…”.

        The land of Israel belongs to Christ and his bride, it is a wedding gift from the Farther to His Son and his beloved. Israel is not the property of the Zionists or the Muslims or the universal church etc etc. The Zionists claims that Israel belongs to them, and that Abraham is their farther is a counterfeit claim..their farther is the devil as Yeshua said. A Jew is one who is one inwardly..not outwardly..Rom 2 v 28, and therefore the promise is to those who are the true descendants of Abraham..i.e. the Seed and those who are Christ’s at his coming. Sure, a remnant of Israel after the flesh will be reborn in Christ when she travails at his coming..Rev 12 v 2.

        Babylon is nothing to do with Catholicism, (although this counterfeit religion will be removed) Babylon is corrupted Israel who has assumed that well earned title for the whore that she is.

        • Hedley

          Your comment is grossly antisemtic in nature. Your perception of Israel is distorted and influenced by the Luciferan media.

          I suggest you make some effort to discover the truth of the relationship between God and Israel and mend your attitudes.

          Antisemitism is not allowed here, so this is a notice to you to discontinue such rash comments.

        • Sorry Hedley but Israel can’t be either the beast nor the woman who rides it and certainly not both. There are far too many verses that simply do not fit. Even the one you used about the deadly wound is ludicrous since it was over 2000 years ago, long before the prophecy was written.
          And God has no plans to destroy Israel. In fact, in the upcoming war of Gog, He will destroy Israel’s enemies Himself. The two witnesses will preach the gospel to Israel during the tribulation to let them know who their savior truely is, so they better listen or else they will be in as much trouble as the apostate Christians.
          Plus the Book of Revelation was not written for the Jews, but for Christians. Many Christians assume it is about Israel or they think they will be raptured, so it can’t possibly be about them. But the message of the Book of Revelation is simple and clear – Christ is returning and there will be a cleansing of sin when He gets here. The wicked will be destroyed along with all pagan practices such as Christmas, Easter and Sunday worship among many others. That doesn’t leave many people out, so we all have straighten up or else get reprimanded.
          So don’t be too hard on the Jews – it might come back to bite you in the ass someday. :)

          • Hi James,

            You will have to forgive me for my late reply..it’s just life and running a small business which takes up an 84 hr week as standard.

            Yes, I can see the confusion regarding the beast and the harlot, however, I don’t see the problem. I believe the bible is describing different aspects of the beast empire by using different symbols to show us which nations are invloved, as well as their characteristics, and common purpose.

            The beast empire is a composite structure made up of different governments, who each give their authority over to one central master..Israel. The reason they hand over territorial independance, is because they are unable to make war with Israel. Israel is too strong at this juncture, due to their vast Zionist resources.The beast empire in it’s macro sense is all the epmires represented in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream standing as a collective entity at the end of days, and in it’s micro sense it is Israel or the little horn of Dan 7, that annexes the ten horns or ten kings of Ps 83 & Rev 17 v 13. When Christ returns to destroy the beast system (the rock cut out without hands), Yeshua strikes the feet of the image first. Therefore, the feet have to be standing on the land of Israel, as this is the place where Christ will reveal himself to his people, and at the same time begin to remove the beast which includes Zionism as a secualar body to be replaced with true Zionism..YHVH’s holy mount.

            The head that was wounded describes a nation which makes a remarkable recovery at the end of time..Israel. No other nation has been so globaly persecuted as the Jews..they were mortally wounded and have been revived. The valley of dry bones, the fig tree shooting forth its leaves, the head recovering are all different ways of saying the same thing..it’s unbelieving and unrepentant Israel restored. Israel was submerged beneath the sea of nations in the diaspora, and has risen out of the sea (Rev 13 v1) to re-establish herself, and take control of other territories in the vicinity through war, politics, and finance. The second beast coming up out of the earth (Rev 13 v 12) is just a progression of the first beast which evolves into a more complex system. The “earth” is usually recognised by bible scholars as meaning the land of Israel, or at the very least the middle east area. The second phase of the beast then makes those who have handed their authority over to Israel, to worship or rather submit to Israel as an act of obeisance (Rev 17 v’s 11-13), which also involves a shaky peace deal between Israel and her sworn enemies. However, the peace deal is a massive fraud in which Israel’s enemies use the time to conspire against her..Dan 8 v 25 “..and by peace shall destroy many”…also 1 Thes 5 v 3 “For when they shall say peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape”…and Rev 12 v 2 “And she being with child cried, (Israel again) travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered”. This is the time of Jacobs trouble which leads to the spiritual rebirth of a dead nation, and the establishment of YHVH’s kingdom on earth.

            YHVH will allow Jerusalem to be destroyed by Israel’s enemies Mark 13 v 1-2 “And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings there are here! And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down”..Rev 17 v’s 16-18 & Rev 18 v’s 9-10.

            Political and secular Zionisism is the heart and mind of the beast.The harlot is just a figure showing Israel controling the structure as a security measure to keep its enemies where it wants them, however, in the end Israel fails with disasterous consequences until they say baruch haba b’shem adonai!

            • the heart and mind of the beast is Islam, in my opinion.

              • The true anti-Christ are those who are of the same heart and mind as those who crucified Yeshua..they were the beast! That beast has a head which was mortally wounded in AD 70, and is represented by mount Sinai. That head has returned as the New World Order, which is litered with Zionists, and is determined to go further than the 1st Reich of the Holy Roman Empire, and much further than the 2nd Reich of the Nazi regime, and is set to create one world government. An invisable government of international bankers controlling the IMF; BIS; The World Bank; Stock markets; the International Securities Fund; Mossad; CIA; MI6; FSB; and others via their government puppets, as well as the media and international trade. No wonder no one can make war with the third Reich..the beast..Israel! Israel/Jerusalem that was, and now is, is the precedent for unbelief and as the BIG MUMA of harlots she serves well those who are her daughters, and any who fornicate themselves with her.those who act as her publicity agents too!!!

                The two witnesses will preach to Israel..not to cheer them on from the touch line, or to encourage others to do the same, but to tell them the truth about the fate that waits them! The witnesses will not give patronage to Israel after the flesh (Agar) although they will be treted as enemies of the State..Rev 11:8 “And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where our Lord was crucified”…Jerusalem/Agar.

                Rev 17:6 “And I saw the woman (Galations 4 Agar/mount Sinai), drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus” & v 18 “This woman (Agar) which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth”..Jerusalem/Agar.

                What’s going to happen to Zionist Jerusalem after shedding the blood of those who belong to Christ.. the following is prophetic within the tight narrative..Math 21:19 & 21 “And when he saw a fig tree (Israel) in the way, he came to it, and found nothing thereon, (typical of Israel after the flesh) but leaves only, and said unto it, Let no fruit grow on thee henceforward for ever. And presently the fig tree withered away….Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If you have faith, and doubt not (Israel after the flesh did and does), ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain (Agar/Jerusalem drunk with the blood of the prophets/witnesses), Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea (just like the herd of swine); it shall be done”.

  170. Hi Hedley,
    I can see how you may have come to your conclusions about Israel and the beasts, but none of it makes any sense to me. As I’ve said, you can support just about any theory by pulling a few verses out of context.
    For example, the verses in Daniel 8 was fulfilled by the Persian empire and the verse, “there shall not be left one stone upon another,“ refers to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD by the Romans.
    As for the term “earth” where the beasts come from, I can assign no significance to either the sea or the earth. If you read Daniel’s description of the four beasts, in one verse he uses the sea and when he describes them a second time, he uses the earth. If you try to substitute the word “Israel” for the word “Earth” throughout the bible you simply end up with a big mess.
    But the main objection I have to this theory is that it is simply whack. For you to be right, Israel will have to conquer ten nations, then completely destroy three of them (pluck them up by the roots). Who do you suppose those countries will be? Will they be Arab nations? European nations? Africa? South America? Will the rest of the world sit back and let this happen?
    Also, the first beast is given authority to rule for 1260 years. That is the exact length of time that the Holy Roman Empire was in control. It started with 10 nations but three Aryan nations (the Vandals, Ostrogoths and Heruli) were destroyed by the Vatican (the little horn). I don’t know how much math you’ve had, but the odds of that happening as a simple coincidence is staggering. There are 18 other fulfilled verses from Revelation and I’ve done the statistics on them, but after the first 12, I stopped calculating when the odds reached 50 trillion to one!
    So what do you think the chances are for your scenario to take place? Even money? 10 to 1? 1000 to 1? How about 50 trillion to one?
    Sorry but I just don’t see it ever happening. Its even crazier than a single dictator taking over the whole planet and implanting chips in everyone for banking purposes. Of course that would contradict your idea, since Israel would also have to be under the control of the Antichrist.
    Of course, if you believe your theory and if you believe in the bible, then anything could happen if controlled by God Himself.
    But if man has control over human events, then I don’t see any of it happening.
    Bless.

    • Hi James,

      Israel has without question been the most persecuted race amongst all the peoples of the earth. The ubiquitous Jew has been despised above all others, and pursued by their enemies to the ends of the earth, and yet they still survive as a race with a unique identity. Surviving against such huge odds makes the Jew a testimony to the fact that YHVH is their God and keeper. However, the fact that they have been persecuted is also a testimony that YHVH will not be mocked, least of all by His chosen people, and therefore in the light of Deut 28, they have been punished above all nations for their trechery. The fact that the Jews said…Math 27:25 “Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our CHILDREN”…is a self indictment for a grievous sin from which the Jewish race has not repented. So, the Jew has carried out its fair share of persecutions against the people of YHVH, by killing the prophets and treating them as enemies of the State. So it was in Christ’s day when Caiaphas, as well as the chief priests and elders of State formed a merry band of persecutors, to become the anti-Christ and rulers of fierce countenance! So it will be again, when the Jewish State persecutes the two winesses for preaching to the nation of Israel..Rev 17:6 “drunken with the blood of the martyres of Jesus”. So, the Jews do have a habit of biting people on the ass..just like a serpent!

      If you don’t think Israel is capable of such persecution just look at their history. Even in recent history we see how inhumane or violent the Zionists can be e.g. Feb 18th 1943..Zionist Izzak Greenbaum, head of the Jewish Agency Rescue Committee said in a speech to the Zionist Executive Council “If I am asked: could you give from the United Jewish Appeal monies to rescue Jews, I say no, and I say again no!” He went further, “One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland”. The bomb which blew up the King David hotel..amongst Brits and Arabs, they killed 17 of their own people. Through their vast network of banking they control the IMF; BIS; and many State banks, as well as the International Securities fund for financing terrorism, wars, and assasanations. They control much of the media, and politicians are just the front-men who do the biding of the Rothschild’s, Rockafellar’s, Bilderbergs etc etc etc. The Zionists sit on almost every important panel of State or finance in the West, especially where the USA is concerned..they are your masters and some of you are their publicity agents.

      Secular Israel is definately the whore Isa 1:21 “How is this faithful city become an harlot”..and as such becomes the precedent for Revelation when history repeats itself. Israel’s spiritual wickedness is likened unto Sodom and Gomorah, as well as Babylon and Eygypt. Just as Israel’s enemies were described as beasts, so she has become a beast by persecuting Christ, the two witnesses and the saints..perhaps she is also the king of fierce coutenance..Dan 8. Allbeit that Dan 8 has some historical context, it also has a future context. The narrative takes into account a future time when the beast as a composite structure, consisting of all previous empires represented by the image stand together at the end of days..e.g Dan 8 clearly shows there are also future applications v 17 “..O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision”.

      The 1260 days is equal to 3.5 years or 42 months. This is linked to Dan 9:27 and the last week of the 70 weeks prophecy when in the midst of the week Jerusalem is trodden down under foot..69 weeks are accounted for at which point Christ was crucified but the last week is still future. The remaining week or seven years is also tied in with Rev 12:14 “..time, and times, and half a time..”. It doesn’t have anything to do with years or ecclesiastical Rome. Some scholars think of Rome as being the subject of Revelation because, as a city it sits on seven hills, however, it’s not the place where our Lord was crucified. Unfortunately, even scholars take things out of context. If I was to ask a Christian to research the meaning of the Passover Lamb, there would be no point them going off to some farm in New Zealand or Australia to find the answer!

      As regards the earth being a substitute for Israel it depends on the context and I will have to refere to some notes I have for that one. As for the sea..in Lk 21:25 “..and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring”. The sea and the nations in this context are one and the same thing. In the diaspora Israel was submerged beneath a sea of nations, later to rise out of those seas (the bottomless pit) to become a persecuting beast. The bible uses different symbols to desribe an entity which has manifold characteristics, and of course this can cause confusion. I think the Rome idea has been around for a long time, and started in an age when Catholocism persecuted Anglicans and Muslims and vice versa too. As much as I feel Catholocism and Islam is counterfeit, neither of them reject Christ in the same way as Jews do! And therein lies the problem and is the reason why the Jews will suffer for it.

      The Zionists have a political agenda, and do not represent Zionism as defined in the bible. Zionism in the bible is about the establishment of YHVH’s kingdom in Israel, with Christ sitting on the throne of his farther David..mount Zion is a term used for YHVH’s righteous government centred in Jerusalem. It has nothing to do with Zionist zealots who presume to be Abraham’s spiritual children, and who treat ownership of Israel as their right..it isn’t and wasn’t for Abraham either. Abraham was promised the land of Israel as an inheritance based on faith. Faith was the proviso within the Covenant relationship..just as it is for us.

  171. Hedly, you fail to include Isaiah 6:10-12 in your discussion of those of Israel who continue to reject Messiah. Isaiah affirms God’s ‘deafening’ and ‘blinding’ of the remnant for divine purposes…and they remain so ‘to this day.’ If interested in scriptural background and reference on the subject as well as the ‘seven thousand’ left open to affirm Messiah, the following posts at my site discuss them in detail: Restoration of ‘Remnant, Fulness of Gentiles, and Remnant: “Can’t Hear’ Gospel.

  172. Hi Internet alias, yes Israel has been blinded, and so was Pharaoh king of Egypt..the sun that melts wax also hardens clay, and yet as with Sodom YHVH Elohim holds out for the slightest sign of repentance, and so it will be for Israel. YHVH will redeem a remnant of Israel, however, the majority of Jews will not respond to the two witnesses, and therefore will remain in unbelief, leaving the majority to be destroyed. The past history of the Jews to treat those who came to warn them of such impending doom with contempt, will again unleash itself against the two witnesses..Rev 11:8 “And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified”. Unless it’s escaped your notice Jerusalem is where Yeshua was crucified, and therefore Jerusalem (Gal 4:25 “For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children”) is synonymous with all that is evil, and Israel after the flesh with unbelief. Whilst the kingdom of YHVH is dependant upon that small remnant of Jews accepting Yeshua, and being sealed, it remains that the present State of Israel is not recognised by YHVH. Yes, it’s true that Israel is a sign to the world that YHVH is working His purpose out, and the circumsatnces of its establishment as a nation is a miracle, it is not a divine kingdom. Even though YHVH has allowed the long and menacing tentacles of Zionism, to bring about the re-establisment of Israel as a nation, such allowances has no bearing on the character of the people involved.

    No one is without sin..neither Jew or Gentile, however, Israel after the flesh due to their history of consistent disobedience, and killing the prophets including Christ, has become a precedent for unbelief. To say that only a handful of the nation was responsible for murdering the Son of YHVH’s right hand, is so far from the truth it makes the east and west of the Tabenacle, look like they are one and the same. We have all done things which put Christ on the cross, we have all impaled him, we are all guilty, and hopefully we have repented. Nonetheless Christ came to the house of YHVH’s lost sheep in the image of his Farther, and provided irrefutable evidence of his credentials as Mashiach. Of course, this situation has a salutary lesson for all of us, to walk humbly before our Elohim. Therefore, Israel bore great responsibility in this matter, and so the greatest condemnation was awarded Lk 10:11-12 “Even the very dust of your city, which cleaveth on us, we do wipe of against you: not withstanding be ye sure of this, that the kingdom of YHVH is come nigh unto you. But I say unto you, that it shall be more tolerable in that day for Sodom, than for that city”. “I will overturn, overturn, overturn it…until he come whose right it is”.

    Ezek 36:31-31 “Then shall ye remember your own eveil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall loath yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations. NOT FOR YOUR SAKES DO I THIS, saith the Lord Elohim, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confouded for your own ways, O House of Israel”.

    The land of Israel belongs to YHVH and His annointed, and those who are found to have their names included in the Lambs book of life..those who constitute spritual Israel..like Abraham and other great worthies who shared in like faith. The pleasant land does not belong to Israel after the flesh, whose claim to it is one of mere presumption based on ancestry. Even under the Old Covenant one’s relationship with YHVH and the associated promises, was always based on faith..not sectarianism as we see with the Zionism which you and your cohort seem to support.

    The book of Revelation invites us all to to expect the unexpected: Rev 17:8 “..they that dwell on earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life..when they shall behold the beast”.

    A challenge indeed!

    Finally, written from a Natsarim Israelite perspective being grafted into Yashua, and respecting the Torah is what is important to me..the Zionists do nothing except insult the Torah and the ordinance of Yahuah. Wouldn’t want to be on the side of those whose only claim to fame, is the financial sponsorship of wars, as well as many other evil exploits involving the murder of innocent people, in order to grab by violence what does not belong to them!

  173. I’m a christian who live in the country for most numbers muslim in the world, Indonesia. So, then ican tell you that numbers of
    VERSES of QORAN NEVER 666.
    Some says that versus numbers of Qoran are under 6.300 ( 6.210 verses, others says 6.236, or 6.220, ect )

    I copied from the top this page and i think this is HOAX :

    Carbon is the 6th element in the Periodic table.

    Additional note from an Islamiat student I talked to:

    There are 666 verses, or ayats, in the Quran.

    What do you think?

    Either the number 666 is the number of the beast [evil], as the Bible describes,

    or

    it is the holy number of the Quran.

    You cannot believe the 666 is both good and evil. You have to make a choice as to what you believe.

    Is the Bible correct, or is the Quran correct, on this? Your eternal destiny depends on the choice you make.

    • Hi lovejakarta,

      Just as a side note, I once had an aquaintance with a Mr Surya Paloh a media publisher of a well known Idonesian newspaper. I believe Mr Paloh was also the youngest ever politician in the entire history of your government.

      Anyway, regarding the number 666, or Chi Xi Stigma in the Greek, it would seem that looking for comparisons between this and bismallah, takes an awful lot of neck-stretching, as well as using a mirror, in order to see any similarities…perhaps standing on ones head might also help!

      To some extent I have played devil’s advocate in some of my posts regarding my view on the book of Revelation, and prophecy in general. In some of my posts I have claimed that Islam appears to be the beast, and in others it’s Zionist Israel. The only thing I will say, is that I do believe that Islam and Zionist Israel, both have a part to play in fulfilling end times prophecy. Chiefly, it’s about YHVH dealing with the problem of Israel’s unbelief. If we consider the territories covered by the image..Babylon; Medo-Persia; Greece; and Rome, not all of these areas are Islamic, though many are, with Israel at the centre…it’s a real mix of politics and religion..iron and clay. Israel’s unbelief is the number one enemy in the plan and purpose of YHVH, and one which prevents the kingdom of YHVH being established upon earth, and one which will be removed by devastation when Israel will be crushed until a remanant cries out to their Elohim. This process will involve a great witnessing to Israel, when the Spirit is poured out upon those who have been reserved for that purpose.

      I have read many books (including the bible of course), attended many studies and seminars, and searched the internet for any clues as to what or who the beast might be, only to discover contradictions in a number of the viewpoints including some of my own. There are so many facets to the book of Revelation, consisting of a concentration of symbols taken from the Old and New Testaments. In our striving to understand what all these symbols mean, we can as a result of enthusiasm become dogmatic, only to realise that we may have taken a wrong turn..hence the varying wiewpoints on this site. Just when all the pieces of the bible seem to come together, another passage of scripture frustrates our analysis, leaving us slightly domoralised. However, we continue onwards with our enthusiasm in search of ‘Truth’.

  174. Assalom Aleykum to all of you. I am a bit disturbed by this posting.

    1) Nowhere in the Quran does it state the number 666.
    2) Where is the concept that Quran has 666 verses? There are over 6,000 ayat in the Quran.
    3) The site mentioned in above post as a Muslim site http://www.israelinbibleprophecy.com, is a site for reaching Muslims for Christ. How is this an Islamic site?
    4) The Quran never states that the Jews are evil, and is not against Jerusalem. Numerous times it mentions how Allah bestowed favor on the Children of Israel, just to have them chase other gods. This is consistent with the Bible. Also it states there are true and false believers in every religious group. This is also consistent with the words of Christ, “Lord, Lord we prophesied in your name.” Christ replied, “Depart from me, I never knew you.”

    Please get the facts straight before attacking the religion of Islam. Yes there are Salafis and Wahhabi who are extremists who make a bad name for Islam, and they should be ashamed.

    There are also sick extremists that call themselves Christians such as the KKK, and the Freemasons who use the Bible to justify their sick stances.

    Muslims are generally classified as the following:
    1) Sunni
    2) Shi’a

    To my understanding, being a Shi’a, the Sunni follow the sayings of Muhammad (hadith) as being equivalent to that of the Quran. I personally do not follow this.

    Shi’a follow the Quran and some follow the teaching of the Old Testament and Gospels of Christ. This is where I personally stand in like of the aya in Quran which states:

    Surah 3:55
    Allah said: “O Jesus! I am terminating your life and raising you to Myself and clearing you of those who disbelieve, and I will make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve till the Day of Resurrection. Then you will return to Me and I will judge between you in the matters in which you used to dispute.

    Have a blessed day.
    Azad Sean
    AzadSeanBogolubov@gmail.com

  175. hi Asad

    1. The number 666 does not have to be stated. It is supposed to be a holy number derived from calculations.

    there is also a 2nd muslim website

    http://www.66619.org/thequran.htm

    2. it is also what bismallah looks like in the greek text.

    see the picture at the top of the post.

  176. i disagree dat not wearing 666 doesnt make u a true believer!!!
    what makes u a true believer is praying 5 times a day!!…you will be judged by your intentions!!

  177. iqra
    It is the grace of God that saves us, not how many times we pray. Have you ever heard the Gospel (good news) explained by a Christian before? It is a FREE GIFT, meaning no repayment required, The only thing one need to do is receive that gift! God will take care of the rest. (Change us from within, our intentions as you put it).
    God bless.

  178. I’m sorry but all facts of muslims believing this number to be holy are all false. I am follower of Islam and such things are never mentioned. It represents to us as it does to you, The Anti-Christ. I am also a follower of Jesus and all that he was for, the no.19 is not a holy number either, and further on that I think all should know by now that the terrorist attacks of 9/11 was an inside job. I am pro-christianity and pro-judaism, as all muslims we are just against satan and those who follow him, eg. those who are really in control of america, for they are satanists. With some proper research you will find the lies that are being fed to the public, please watch The Arrivals on youtube for some enlightenment, watch it and believe what you want. God sent the Torah, but it was infiltrated and changed by ancient satanists, so The Bible was sent as another attempt but once again it was infiltrated, the prophet Jesus was murdered and the Bible was infiltrated by the very same people that killed Jesus. So then the Quraan was sent and made to be memorized so that it is forever in its original form. Islam is not what you are shown in the media, the truths of its peace are not shown and therefore not believed. You may say what you want now, but please when all is revealed do not turn to Satan thinking it is right, turn to the one true god, for that is the one common belief amongst all religions.

    • dear Zaakir

      I appreciate your viewpoint, and agree in part, and disagree in part.

      There is no proof that the scriptures have bee tampered with. This is just an empty claim made by those who choose not to believe them.

      there are thousands of fulfilled biblical prophecies which prove its authenticity.

      I believe every word of he bible just as you believe your Quran.

      the claim that 911 was a conspiracy is also a conspiracy. there was plenty of proof at the time that it was done by terrorists,,,,they even admitted to doing it. and rejoiced at the tragedy. now they take advantage of the internet smokescreen and change their minds about what they did.

      the aliens who are on this earth now are a demonic presence. I would not trust any of them.

      if you seek the truth you will find it.

      may god bless you

  179. this is boo ship ,who wrote this wherever about this title or journal what you write is really wrong we have no any idea what did mean about it an evil number ,and the muslim follow something from the evil way huh you are in big mistake read agine and agine in muslim religion or even your religion read it agine bye

    • Hi Ahmed & Zaakir,

      You have to remember that Marianne and this site is principly pro-zionism..however, its view of zionism is not biblically based. Instead it takes up the political banner for zionism (and its associated disobedience) in a patronising way. They assume that as the Jews are the chosen people of Yahweh Elohim they can do no wrong, and this itself is a very wrong point of view.

      For the most part of Jewish history the Jews because of their disobedience, have been under Yahweh’s condemnation. The Jews remain in unbelief (for a reason), however, their unbelief is the arch-enemy of Yaweh. The central point of Yaweh’s purpose is to create a new heart within the Jewish people, so that they can truly be His people. At the moment the Jews as a nation/race have by enlarge chosen not to be Yahweh’s people, and in their unbelief, they do (above all peoples and nations) the things which are an abomination in the sight of their Elohim. Yahweh has a plan to remove their disobedience because the establishment of His kingdom depends on the Jew being grafted back into the olive tree, but only when they recognise their evil ways..the ways that Marianne and her cronies applaud!!!

      As for the number 666, we simply don’t know enough about the meaning to apply it to Islam or anything else..equally it may well have a Jewish application..but only time will tell. One thing about the Walid Shoebat interpretation is that he’s (allegedly) been financed by some very powerful Americans to perpetrate this viewpoint against Islam!!!

      There is no need for anyone of us to be biased towards political and humanist reasoning. We can all pray for those who are truly Israel (in their hearts), and for Ephraim to return unto Yahweh so that the inheritance can be apportined to those who do not presume to own the land by violence, but who will receive the bleesing as a gift by virtue of the works of Yeshua ha Meshiah.

      • hedley

        Yes you are right, I am pro- Israel, which is pro-zionism.

        No, you are wrong, I am absolutely biblical based, and i have pages proving that.

        Everything I say is based on scripture.

        the only ones who are anti-zionism are those who are anti-semitic, so that is something to think about.

        god has already promised in scripture to crush any nation or individual who comes against the state of Israel.

        so you cannot claim to be part of “true Israel” if you condemn those who live in the state of Israel.

        obviously you have never been there, and know nothing of the people there.

        Walid Shoebat is a former Palestinian terrorist, so he knows the truth behind Islam and the intentions of the Palestinians, who are helping to create world war 3.

      • Islam is a lie. As such, it is a pagan religion worshiping a false god, and following a mad man who raped, and murdered.

        The word made flesh, who loves his creation so much, was born a virgin, was murdered for human sin, and rose from the dead to be at the right hand of G-d the Father. This is the truth that will set you free.

        Happy Resurrection Day.

  180. True Israel are those who have the faith of Abraham, and Abraham did not claim the inheritance promised to him, but rather saw that promise affar off in the fulfilment of the works of Yeshua ha Meshiah. Yeshua ha Meshiah will determin who has a right to the land of Israel, and whilst it will include for sure, those of natural Israel (that is the primary intention of Yahweh Elohim), it remains that they too will only aquire possession of the land by faith, and not by force.

    Abraham establishes the precedent for faith, and how to act according to that very same faith..he didn’t claim that right by force, and neither can we or more importantly neither can the Jews. Even Joshua could only possess the land because of his faith, leaving most of those who wandered through the wilderness in thieir graves because of disobedience through unbelief.

    You on the other hand are pro zionist/nationalist, and this is not the biblical basis upon which you can claim, or support those whose claim to the land of Israel is one of presumption and nationalism..to presume is a form of disobedience. It was the nationalists or zionists of Yeshua’s day who murdered him (of whom Yeshua indicted them as having the devil as their father)..it was they who were the anti-Meshiah, and so it is true today..and you support them! That’s not to say that we should on the other hand support Islam, because it is a pagan religous force, and one which may well be used against Israel to bring them to repentance. However, Islam is no more or less than a pagan force than the zionist presumptions to claim the land of Israel as their own without faith..for without faith it is impossible to please Yahweh Elohim..although quite to the contrary you seem to think it is!!! UMMM!!!

    I’m afraid your claims of support for the zionist movement to be biblically based are false, and totally misguided. Zionism in the bible has nothing to do with the nationalist claims of the zionist movement. Zionism in the Holy Script is about Mount Zion, and is associated with the mother of true Israelites i.e. Sarah and those of the faith of Abraham by virtue of a covenant with everlasting life in Yeshua ha Meshiah. You support those who do not have a covenant of faith, but rather a covenant of death by association with Mount Sinai whose mother is Haggar, and whose father is the devil!!! No wonder it will be a day of darkness for natural Israel should they continue to refuse to repent. It is our spiritual duty to pray for natural Israel to repent, and for them to claim the true Zionism in Yeshau ha Meshiah without it’s violence, and leave it to Yahweh Elohim to take vengeance against their enemies, and give them the land at the appointed time!!!

    • hedley

      Zionism is part of God’s plan:

      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/zionism-man%E2%80%99s-idea-or-god%E2%80%99s-plan/

      God said he would return he jews to their homeland, and they would never be removed from there again.

      All has occurred according to prophecy,

      Israel is descended from Sarah, not haggar.

      You claim to know Yeshua, but you lack his heart and will.

      • Yes indeed, true Zionism is from Yahweh Elohim..ah..but it’s not the same zionism that you support!!!

        The zionist Israel you support isn’t from Sarah, spiritually they are begotton of Haggar(Math 21:20..the fig tree that was cursed and withered away) and dead in their sins..it’s an allegory as the apostle Paul clearly states in Galatians chapter 4:24..perhaps you should read Gal chapters 3 & 4 lest you too should be bewitched! This same theme is continued in Revelation.

        Both Haggar and Sarah represent two different classes of Jews, and we too can be added to one of those two classes depepending on whether we have the faith of Abraham or not. The Jews have returned to their historical homeland as promised so that the chaff can be removed from the wheat..or Haggar removed from the land leaving only those begotton of Sarah..which will also include a remnant of natural Israel once they have repented.

        Unfortunately, you are part of the zionist nationalist support team, and would be better off serving in the Kenesset, or better still Mossad. I suppose you could equally join the American administration as they are governed largely by zionists anyway. If you want to mislead yourself then that’s fine, but you shouldn’t mislead others with your half-baked interpretation of the scriptures, and lead people down a path to destruction!

        • you cannot prove your case…there is nothing wrong with the current state of Israel as a national state. It would be nice if it were not surrounded by blood thirsty enemies.

          this is all just your opinion…it is antisemitic

    • Hedley, your comment on April 8, 2012 at 5:52 pm….Well said

  181. Muslims are numbered in Billions -Jews in a few million- Muslims intent is to destroy Israel. Muslims are decendents of Ishmael – who it is written have the mind of ‘an ass’ or donkey -every man against his brother and the other nations.
    God’s plan is rapidly coming to pass when Jesus will return and fight them as inthe day of battle- muslims will be destroyed -Zech. 12 -read it and many other prophesies.

  182. Dear Marriane,
    With all my respect to all what you’ve wrote and to everyone replied on your ideas and your hard work, One God have created the world and one God have created the human being and one God will take all what he’ve created, as same as your figuring your ideas, The same people are trying to figure ideas with Islam, If you need to know about Islam you have to return directly to Qura’an and then to the speechs of the Prophet Mohammed before searching on islamic websites, Kindly watch the below video as I really hope that could help you to find what your looking for and you might also find that The Qura’an is words of Allah which told us before 1433 years things have been discovered now a days and signs started to apear now a days, and facts are happening … The Qura’an talks about past, present and future, accept my apology … Thank you

    • Hi Ali,

      The problem with the Qura’an, is that there are a number of historians who have examined the life and works of Mohamet (the prophet of Islam), who have concluded that he was a fraudster. Mohamet plagiarised the Old and New Testaments of the bible, and used its literary material from those sources to form a hybrid religion called Islam. Furthermore, Islam is the religion of the moon god which was widely worshiped throughout the fertile plain of the Arabian peninsular. Mohamet already had a captive audience of moon god worshipers, to whom he proclaimed the moon god allah to be the true god.

      The prophetic value of the Qura’an is about zero, and that which seems like prophecy has been coveted from the true word of Yahweh the Elohim of Yisrael..i.e. the Holy Bible or the Tanach and the brit chadasha. There is no other prophetic message other than the Tanach, and this has been carried forward into the brit chadasha, and again into the book of Revelation. There is total consistency throughout the scriptures apart from a few spelling errors, and the ocassional misinterpretation eg the Reed Sea (Yam Suff) as apposed to the Red Sea. Apart from these errors the entire course of Yahweh’s message is thematic from Genesis to Revelation..a message which states quite clearly that salvation is of the Jews..not Mohamet or allah.

      Although salvation is of the Jews, the Jewish race have by enlarge been a disobedient nation, and therefore have received of Yahweh’s judgements equal in measure to their unbelief. This is a continuing situation with present Yisrael, who do not acknowledge to the true Yisrael..Yeshua ha Meshiah..the Prince of El which is what the name of Yisrael means. The final solution for the nation of Yisrael is that their Elohim..Yahweh, will give Yisrael’s enemies power to bring that nation of sleepers to it’s knees, to make them cry out for help, and confess their sin of unbelief. I am almost certain that the enemies of Yisrael in Ps 83 who are Islamic, will come against Yisrael with a huge amount of initial success, but who are then destroyed by Yeshua and his armies.

      The problem we have in the land of Promise, is that we have two brother nations each descended from Avraham, and each claiming a right to the inheritance of the first born. However, the first born in the eyes of Yaweh Elohim is the first born of faith..Avraham; Yitzchach; and then Yacov. That’s why there is a list of the faithful servents of Yahweh in the book of Hebrews chapter 11, because it was by virtue of faith that those who obeyed Yahweh, could be entitled to be a Hebrew as one who crossed over from unbelief to belief, and for this reason only could they or anyone become benefactors of the promises associated with Avraham’s seed, the Meshiah Yeshua the true Yisrael..the Prince of El.

      So whether you are Islamic or zionist, or of any religion that does not put on the saving name of Yeshua the Prince of El through baptism and belief, you have no right to claim the Promised Land..eretz Yisrael as an inheritance and will be treated as nothing more than squaters profaning the whole meaning of Yisrael!!!

      • I’ve seen lots of negative post against Islam, and none of them where supported by documented facts.

        666 is a holly number for Muslims? Funny. hahaha. and who was that Historian said Muhammad plagiarized bible? and how could it be that something that was full of descrepancies in contents be plagiarized by a poor one grew orphan and lived in saudi arabia which is a full of barbarous people before Islam came to that country. and that is work his own work is very much pleasing to the ear that has rithym in every part like a perfect peom. he didn’t even have a chance to go to school or be taught by anyone. could you point even just one verse in Qur’an that contradicts another verse from it? you couldn’t, because it was perfectly made. without even grammatical or spelling errors.

        why do evil people need to fabricate informations just to provoke one’s religion?

        what moon god? only idiot worships the moon? Islam is not even symbolized by moon. Ignorant being.

        666 is bullshit!!! could you say that also? MAYBE you can’t. maybe its holly number for you?

  183. Hey I just wanted to say thank you for searching out this truth and taking the time to post about it. I re-blogged your post on my blog. Blessings to you!!!

  184. The New Testament, both Gospel authors and Paul, use themes from the Old Testament and refer to them and retell them. So, are the authors of the Gospels and Paul necessarily plagiarizers of the Old Testament and is the New Testament a work of frauds? If your answer is no, then you can’t claim that Quran is a fraud’s work, either. It’s that simple. Can’t you just stop and think?

    • Hi Adem, one has to remember first and foremost that the scriptures both Old and New Testaments are a complete harmony of Yawheh’s word..there are no contradictions. The Old Testament is the New Testament contained, and the New Testament is the Old Testament explained..no plagiarising! This can’t be said for the Quran, as Mohamet contradicted himself on more than one occassion, as in the example of the satanic vereses etc.

      One thing I would like to go on to mention is one of anti-semetism, because a lot of hard stuff is said about Arabic peoples. It’s something that goes far and wide, and doesn’t only apply to the Jewish nation, if indeed it ever does apply to the Jewish people of today, and possible not where most are concerned. When the Jews shout about anti-semetism towards them, they are hypocrytes, because they are the worst. The word semetic as you probably know is a contraction of the word Shem, and a proper rendering of the word Semetic ought to Shemetic. The descendants of Shem include the Assyrians; Aramaens; as well as the Arabic side of Abraham’s family, and therefore, when the Jew shows hostility towards her Arab neighbours, it too is anti-semetic!

      Furthermore, the encyclopdea Judaica states (especially in the case of Ashkanazis) that they originate from the Khazars in Turkey, and are more likely to be related to the Hun, than having anything to do with an Abrahamic ancestry. Also, (Rom 2:28) a Jew is one who is one inwardly, not one who who is one outwardly..it’s all about faith and has absolutely nothing to do with bloodlines. Read Galations chapters 3 & 4 to get an even broader view of the same scripture.

      The Zionists today have perverted the true meaning of Zionism, true Zionism is about Yahweh’s kingdom with Christ as its King reigning on Zion’s holy hill..Jerusalem..the New World capital to be established when Jesus returns, and has nothing to do with their brand of Babylonian Talmudic politics, and one which follows the traditions of the Elders! Todays Zionists are nothing but the High Priests of Sodom and Gomorrah, whose Talmudic supremacist philosophy (similar to Karl Marx’s basis for communist ideology), is one of trying to control the world through its god of gold and finance, as well as politics.

      Yahweh delivered the Israelite from the bondage of Eygpt, He delivered the Israelite from Babylonian exile (a punishment for thier continueous sins), yet Yahweh just can’t seem to take the Eygpt or Babylon out of the Israelite..at least not until the Israelite is subjected to a (Dan 12:1) “time of trouble” such never before experienced by that nation of whormongers Ezek 23. When even then most will not repent and will end up as Sodom and Gomorrah, when all the merchants of the earth who fallen for her charms (Rev 18:9) will witness the “smoke of her burning”. Ah, but who will be responsible for Israel’s burning..it will be the 10 toes of Nebuchadnezzars image. Whether such hostile action against Israel will have the blessing of the International Investment banks, just as the Zionists funded Hitler for their purposes to deal with Russia, and backed Churchill (a Jew) who prevented Jews escaping from Nazi Germany, we don’t know the answer. However, I wouldn’t be at all surprised by this bunch of New World Order Pharisees (nice photo of George Bush jnr with a Talmud on internet), to create a conflict against Israel..another holocaust against their own people, in an attempt to win them the hearts and minds of the world, thereby creating a pretext to flatten the Arabs, and notch that bit nearer to world supremacy!

      • Cute.

      • “The Sum is greater than it’s parts”. YHVH has everything under control without your condemnation of Yisrael.

        • Sorry have been busy on other websites etc. One doesn’t need to condemn Yisrael..the bible does it for us from the time of Moses through to the book of Revelation. I am not anti-semetic since the Zionists do a good job of that themselves. From the time of Theodor Herzl who threatened to use anti-semites against his own people with the aim of forcing Jews into accepting and wanting a Jewish homeland of their own to the Zionists funding the Nazi regime (no doubt for the same reason, to Izaak Greenbaum who was head of the Jewish Rescue Agency Committee in his speech to the Zionist Executive Council on the 18th Feb 1943 said the following: ” If I am asked, could you give from the UJA ( the United Jewish Appeal) monies to rescue Jews, I say no, and I say no again!” He went on to say “One cow in Palestine is worth more than all the Jews in Poland!” Quite frankly, this comes as no surprise to me the lenghts that Zionists will go to in order to achieve their political aims..even the slaughter of their own kinsmen and women. The Zionists felt it was expedient to sacrifice their own in order to make them want to return to a safe place i.e. Palestine!!! so, thank the Zionists for the sufferings of their people when you think about the holocaust etc.

          Just to say, we think about the horrors of the holocaust, but have you ever thought about the holocaust of the Russian Revolution which was also a Zionist creation. On the 29th March 1919 the London Times reports on the Bolsheviks in Russia: “One of the curious features of the Bolshevist movement is the high percentage of non-Russian elements among its leaders. Of the twenty or thirty commissaries, or leaders, who provide the central machinery of the Bolshevist movement, not less than 75% were Jews.” The Bolshevist uprising was a Rothschild Bankster funded enterprise in retaliation to Alexander 1st refusal to go along with Rothschild’s agenda for a New World Order, when some generations later his family were murdered by agents of the London Bankster funded Revolution. What of the horrific consequences of the Russian Revolution..60-70 million Christians and non-Jews murdered by the Zionists who had both created and administered the Russian concentation camp system..read Aleksander Solzhenitsyn work “Gulag Archipelago Vol 2.” Why don’t we have holocaust memorials to the victims of those murdered by the Zionists..including all those who have died fighting the Zionist Bankster wars since the French Revolution through to the First and Second World Wars, on to Korea and Vietnam. You and I have been defrauded by their liarocracy..more the fool are you if you believe in their State sponsored and administered lies!!!

          There is very strong

          • There are faults that can be found in individuals and human government in every nation. No one condones wrong doing, even by those of Jewish people who choose to do such things. Those who break the laws of the land will be punished and those who break Yah’s law will be punished, the later will be dealt with by Yah personally. Maybe if the bigoted haters of the Jewish people and nation approached them without a predisposition to hate, just because it is widely accepted, maybe things would not be this way. But then, that can’t happen, isn’t that right? You have no choice but to hate the Jews. The bottom line is this; curse Israel and be cursed, or bless Israel and be blessed. That is the only choice you can make that matters. If you choose to bless Israel, then do so and leave Israel in Yah’s hands and He will determine their guilt or innocence and you are blessed in the process, regardless of what happens. Otherwise, spew your hate and reap the consequence by Yah. Your “CHOICE”!

            • Wow, curse Israel and the Jews and be cursed! So that means the Zionists are cursed above everyone else, and the bible too, as well as Yahweh from what you are saying..ummm!!! That sounds to me like it’s getting very near to blasphemy!!! You see, I would never curse Israel or Jew, neither would I curse the Edomites or other Arabs..rather Lk 6 v 27-28 “But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who ill treat you.” However, the Zionists have subjected their own people to the horrors of such atrocities as the holocaust for political gain, because it was expedient for them to sacrifice innocent Jews for the advancement of a Zionist Jewish State. A Jewish State which doesn’t belong to anyone but Christ, and his bride, and not something anyone neitherJew or Arab can claim by force, and in so doing fly in the face of Yahweh.

              The bible says a lot about the Jews being cursed by Yahweh in Deut 28 for their disobedience, and makes reference to the nation of Israel as being likened to a harlot in Isaiah 1 v 21..whose worship was meaningless; legalistic; and void of sincerity. Again the term harlot is duplicated in Revelation 17 where once again it is a reference to Zionist Israel or the modern day Pharisee. They were a nation who went a whoring after the gods of other nations, and were far worse than the so called moon-god worshipers of Islam, and still are to this very day. Ever since the time of Christ (as a matter of fact they were before Christ) they have turned places of worship into banks, and have turned banks into the place where they worship. The Zionist banksters are on record as having funded every war since the French Revolution, and given financial support to others in even earlier times such as Oliver Cromwell. In 1847 the wife of Mayer Amschel Rothschild Gutle Schapper said arrogantly: “If my sons did not want
              wars, there would be none.” And its got far worse since then..it’s on record!!!

              The current situation in the middle-east regarding the so called Arab-Spring, is not an Arab-Spring but rather a Zionist-Spring to take the Arabs from one form of dictator and tyrany under one man, to another form of institutional dictatorship and tyrany of the Zionist Banksters. Ha, the Zionist Banksters whom you support have brutalised and trashed the scriptural meaning of Zionism and have relegated it from its place of purity to one of usury which has been responsible for State sponsored murder in the form of wars, and its various other associated war crimes like rape and theft of other lands and possessions..you and they are of the (Rev 2 v 9) synagogue of Satan and all for the love of money and power. John the baptist said Math 3 v 7-9 “But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Saducees coming to where he was baptising, he said to them: “You brood of vipers! Who warned you to flee from the wrath to come? Produce fruit in keeping with repetance. AND DO NOT THINK YOU CAN SAY TO YOURSELVES. ‘We have Abraham as our father.’ I TELL YOU THAT OUT OF THESE STONES GOD CAN RAISE UP CHILDREN FOR ABRAHAM.”

              Zionism of the scriptures and political Zionism today are as far apart fromeach other as East is for the West, and never the twain shall meet. The Zionists of today may think they can swop east for west, and confuse everyone in the process with your help, but be it on your conscience to swop righteousness for sin and vice-versa..ha!

              • My last sentence above should have been simply: but be it on your conscience to swop righteouness for sin..with the omission vice-versa i.e. sin for righteousness..which is what we pray shall not be the endevour of all..me too.

          • you have a very biased view and interpretation of history.

          • Written like a true moon god worshiper. Muhammad would be proud.

            I bet it is after Friday prayers to the god of the Kaabba, and you found yourself so full of hate you could not help yourself in spreading what your Immam taught you.

            What is it like following a 7th century man man, and head butting a carpet five times a day to one of the 360 gods that were at the kaabba before Muhammad showed up, and made your kind worship only Sin the god of the moon?

            • Hi Redneck, I have to correct you..no immam taught me! I once had an association with staunch Zionists through my work. Yacov for example had been in the Israeli army, and had been a Mossad agent too..I know this from my sources. Well, I have to say Yacov was quite enlightening on Russian history etc. I search websites and conduct my own research. In addition, I was once aquainted with a Russian girl who had served in the Red army when it was the Soviet Union, and who had been groomed to serve in the former KGB, but chose instead to become an international lawyer because there was more money in it. My friend did most of her legal training in Russian banks, but eventually went on to work for private firms, where she had both government and mafia clients. This is where some of my curiosity first began, and my friend who still has old army and school friend who currently work for the Russian Security Services has very good sources of information. Furthermore, I have met many different people from all kinds of backgrounds. One very interesting person was a Turkish guy who works for the Turkish government regarding their airforce. The gentleman spoke the Queens English extremely well, and therefore we were able to strike up a very intelligent conversation. He was very well read, and had attended university in the USA. This gentleman knew much more than I did about the Fractional Reserve Banking system of the Rothschilds, as well as having an amzing knowledge of European, Arabic, and American history. He also informed me that there was a secretive Islamic network whose sole aim was to work against the Zionist banking cartel. We are told that Esau will break the yoke of Jacob Gen 27 v 40 ” You will live by the sword and you will serve your brother. But when you grow restless, you will throw his yoke from your neck.” Lastly, I meet with Messianic Jewish friends who are quite damnable of their Zionist cousins..umm!!

              Anyway, what’s it like being in the American Marianne Corp..I suppose you all originate from the Appalachians or Orzarks..no difficulties counting to six I suppose! So, tell me whose the Marianne Drill Sergeant..you, her or Sergeant Hartman. The Full Metal Jacket or rather Zionist ephod doesn’t look good compared to the armour of Christ.

              Everywhere we go
              Everywhere we go
              We will tell them who we are
              We will tell them who we are
              Zionist Bankster Christians on the move
              Zionist Bankster Christians on the move
              Wearing our combats with zit-zitz
              Wearing our combats with zit-zitz
              Defending the liarocracy with our Talmuds
              Defending the liarocracy with our Talmuds.

              Shalom Shalom..ha yom yom yaffe!

          • yeah and a little cuckoo. vietnam and korea too? lol!! that’s as good as the poppies.

  185. marianne

    your are really funny. you are the one who copied and paste most. you don’t even own copyright of the images you posted. not only to this page but as well as to your other pages. hahaha

    and how could it be that i haven’t read the bible when I grew up as Born Again Christian? anyway thanks for your replies. I enjoyed commenting. I have said enough. I just want to share enlightments to the innocents.what ever you do to yourself, i don’t care anymore. I am not afraid of whatever you do to just to twist the truth about our Religion, because even the combinations of all satans would have no match to the Great Lord God.. and I am not afraid of the end of the world because I know God will be there for us. I am only afraid to the wrath of our Lord God, the Creator, the Sovereign of the Universe…

    pity the unbeliever especially for those who twist the truth for they will end up in hell.

    i jz want to repeat.. everything in the post is untrue.. 666 has nothing to do with my Religion. there is no magnificent 19 nor any holly numbers. everything in the post about Islam was just a lie and fabricated by evils..

    there is no surah in the Qur’an that would say that 666 or any number is holly. I can’t forget how funny you said Obama admitted that he was a Muslim. such a foolish lie.

    666 is bullshit!!! could you say that also? MAYBE you can’t. maybe its holly number for you?

    • you were never born again.

      • yes i was, i already have dougbt that Jesus was the God when i was younger. but it was only in 1988 when i began to leave the group. and it was only 2004 when i began to embrace Islam. until now I find it hard to read Arabic, so i rely on reading the english translations of verses of Qur’an. I cannot lie on this, because the-God will surely punish me if I do so. :)

        • sorry to hear you got lost.

          so you are reading a different “version” of the Quran

          • no other versions..Qur’an should not be changed. it would not be Qur’an if there would be any changes to its arabic words. or if it is missing. there is no versions of Qur’an. not like in Bible with king James Versions, New American versions, Revised Standar versions, New Century Versions, Etc. the arabic words used in but for understanding purposes, translations (not explanations) may be put right after every verses. just like this

            -ARABIC WORDS
            -english translations

            -ARABIC WORDS
            -english translations

            -ARABIC WORDS
            -english translations

            have a glance on this: http://quran.com/1 (it would not take you much time)
            click on audio if you want to hear how it is pronounced like a peom. but they just called it plagiarize from something by uneducated person.

        • I am so sad for you. I will pray for you.

  186. This topic doesn’t need to get out of hand. It’s actually very simple. Everything started in the Middle East and it will end in the Middle East. The bible states the way that Jesus prayed- Just like a Muslim. Mary covered her face as did most women in that time/region just like a Muslim and still do to this day. Jesus spoke ARAMAIC. The translation of the word “GOD” in Aramaic is “Allah”.

    Below you will find a Christian International Website Copyrighted 1988-89. It is an English to Aramaic translator. Search the word “god”. As you will see, it also shows you every single chapter in the Holy Bible that the word is referenced to and the root and meaning of the word. Singular or Plural and how it was pronounced in the Eastern and Western parts of the world at that time (that spoke aramaic).

    http://www.peshitta.org/lexicon/

    Peace to all of you on your journey and many blessings to you all!

    • Hey moon god worshiper, do you think Jesus beat his head on the ground towards the pagan shrine called the Kaabba? Also, Allah is a Arabic word that means the god. One of 360 false gods at the Kaabba.

      Just because Allah is close to Aloho does not make it the same.

      Try again.

    • In old Aramaic God is ellah. Through history the Aramaic word has changed because Aramaic people are living with arabs. So now the Aramaic word for God is Aloho. We have been to the moon and there is no God their.
      We will soon burn up the muslim area.

    • thank you, Yakub

      I see a difference between a culture trait and a religion.

      Islam came 560 years after Jesus.

      There is no passage saying that Mary covered her face, although that is possible, since Rachel covered her face, once she was married to Isaac.

    • Jesus spoke Aramaic, Greek and Hebrew. Jesus called Him Adoni. He also called Him Eloihim. No where in the Bible does it say that Mary or any of the other women covered their faces. They probably did during a sand storm or bright sun. But why assume something not said. They were Jewish not Arabs. Aramaic does not mean Arabic Jew. It is different.

  187. For the record I am not a Muslim but a seeker of the truth. In order to seek the truth you are to question everything including faith itself. If questioning leads to name calling then obviously there is truth in this. I do however believe the devil is real and his works as well as his henchman have been at work since before the time of jesus. The plan has been set in motion long ago and the stage must be set. God allows him to do this and gods faithful people will see the truth and the devils hand at work. Prophets have been sent forth and slayed time and time again before they can give their message. I have read all Abrahamic books of religion and I find that how can anyone claim their book is the word of god if there is but ONE single non truth in that book. If you have not done this then how can you say what claims to be right or wrong. I was merely trying to share something and help those out who are seeking the same. There are 12 verses in the Bible that talk about ants for instance. It says they are not strong, have no chief, officer, or ruler. This is obviously a non truth. No disrepect. Seeking the truth is just that easy. Credibility is henceforth lost. I am facinated by the quran and how it can explain the cycle of birth from inside a womans womb which technology could only explain for the first time in history less than 200 years ago. Blackholes, speed of light, the universe, energy, gravity, inertia. All of these are explained in great detail and still to this day being proven true to every word. They also have found Pharaoh Ramseys who was drowned chasing moses through the Red Sea. This was something that was suppose to come to pass in the Quran as it is said God will preserve his body for everyone to see as proof that he is the god of all of the prophets. Just sharing. Good luck on your search. I was born a Christian and still am to this day. Its not blasphemy. Its just the truth. Peace

    • Yakub
      God and his people can see into the future. Their is plenty of things that is said in the old testament and new testament that is fullfilled. Nothing that Muhammed said has happened.

      • Good point Yakub. You hit it right on the nail. He definitely was not a prophet in any sense of the word. He was just a guy who wanted power, revenge , money and lots of sex.

    • Actually, I have read several times the “scientific” information in the Qu’ran has been found to be vague enough to be just barely acceptable or inacurrate. Also they did have access to the Greek and Roman physicians etc. Ants have a queen that lay eggs, but she doesn’t rule them like one. They all work collectively and communicate by phermones & there is still so much to learn about them. Mohammed was by no means a prophet at all. Have you read the Qu’ran and the Haddith in full? I think you might want to do that before you make up your mind about what kind of man he was. I have and boy, what an eye opener it was for me. What a true narcissist & sociopath example for all the psychology books. Talk about a textbook example. What Mohammed writes about Jesus has been known to be early stories from gnostic gospels & other writings & local tales. He purposely wanted to write things about Jesus that weren’t written in the actual Bible but he was definitely not original. His “visions” and “messenges” are also found in the other places listed above. He pretty much took some Biblical verses and changed some wording around to make his sound original. He refused to learn to read & write so he went by memory. He & other Islamists didn’t count on us finding the Dead Sea Scrolls or other ancient writings to match our current accurate Bibles & his supposed original visions.

  188. Some of you people are silly. Its the Jews! No, its the Christians! No, its the Muslims! Come on. Torah was out more than 1400 years before Jesus returned. The Jews still didn’t believe. Catholicism is obviously just Ancient Romes way of accepting Christianity. The King James version of the bible came out in 1611! The Quran came out in 1445! Who cares when what came out. It obviously doesn’t make any difference. If there are 2 Abrahamic religions then why can’t there be a third? The bible even talks about it! http://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Isaiah%2029:12

    There has been no bloodshed in the land of Isreal under muslim rule since the Crusades. Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived there in harmony. Find me a holocaust Jew that agrees with the enslavement of a Nation. Sounds like Isreal is more “a wild ass of a man”. After World War 1 the British Empire all of a sudden had this strange love for reinstating a Jewish State in the world. After World War 2 the United States had the same love. Why? Where did all this love come from during WW1? The British Empire were already shipping Jews to the land of Isreal. Why? The land of Isreal must be reinstated in order for the Anti-Christ to return for he will RULE from Isreal. Once slayed, Muslims will once again open the land to all to live in harmony once again. I leave it up to you to answer the Why questions. Turn off the TV and read a book.

    • jason

      Where have you been for the last 100 years? or 2000? or at least 60 years?

      For the period of the ottoman empire, the land of Israel was a barren land, and no one hardly lived there. Same was true when the British took it over at the beginning of the 1900s.

      so, no people…no bloodshed…..

      when the Jews started to enter the land, the bloodshed began, and the attacks came from Muslims, not jews.

      Check your history….1948, 1967 ….attacks by entire arab states against the small group of jews there…..the participation of the so called palestinians and the grand mufti of jerusalem with hitler in WW2 was bloodshed……I was there in the year 2000 when the infitada began by terrorists against the jews…..they were blowing up buses and killing jews……the lebanon- israel war was started by muslims…and there has been continuous attacks either by HAMAS or HEzbollah for the past 50 years.

      Islam is NOT a religion of peace….

      • btw…the king james “version” is just an english translation of the bible, which has been around since the time of Moses.

      • What I wanted to know if it is true if the ottoman empire was the 7th beast, because it existed after John wrote revelation and israel was part of it’s empire. No one seems to talk about it so much.

    • What the Bible says is that there will be false prophets and to not add anything else to what he has written. That meant Mo and his nonsensical books, which I read and they are crazy, drivelly rubbish. He was absolutely, undeniably possessed. No doubt. The Angel Gabriel had nothing to do with that sociopath, but Satan surely did. If you read the Bible, it says that God’s chosen people are to return to their land. The Qu’ran also states that Israel belongs to the Jews. People don’t realize that Israel only takes up 0.01% of the size of Muslim lands. Why don’t they want the Jews to have their own land? Because they are God’s chosen, God wants them there and islam comes from Satan and demons. You don’t know the Bible very well do you? Do you not see that prophecies that once seemed so far-fetched are all now coming true? Do you know what the Jews have done with that Land in 70 years time? The irrigation & crops that help feed Europe! The high tech industries-no modern cell phones and computer processing without them. They are the most educated per capita of any nation. The most patents, the most Nobel prices per capita. They network together to get things done for the good of the whole. Most of them serve their country. They all learn how to use firearms well and accurate. That nation has their act together in many, many ways. They are not too shabby-to say the least. That includes all Israelis, of all religions who are patriotic citizens. The very few Muslims that were there were welcome to stay & take full advantage of full citizenship or leave if they chose. They were supposed to be allowed to emigrate to Jordan-that was the deal that Jordan reneged on. All the world should be pissed at Jordan when it comes to the palistinian arabs who felt displaced, not Israel. They have done nothing to incur the wrath of the hateful Muslim scum around them.

    • No, the Torah was written before Jesus’ 1st coming. He hasn’t returned yet. His imminent return is part of the current debate. The Qu’ran and the Haddith were started in 622 but I do agree, there is lots of debate regarding several authors over hundreds of years. It is hard to know who and when it was actually “finished”. But Islam is definitely not a religion. It is a political idealogy built around domination and power over people, nations and women. It does spread like a disease and does not bring peace where it goes.

  189. It doesn’t really matter. Todays events are spoken about in more detail then the bible. You will see the importance of Gold & Silver come about within your life time. The monatary system is on the verge of collapse globally. The quran states silver and gold and precious metals are to be used for money and nothing else (fiat currency). Loans are to be interest free. 100 dollars borrowed is to be 100 dollars paid in return. Your bible can’t speak of such things for I own one and have studied it greatly. How amazing would it of been for the world to not undergo this massive global collapse if this was the way it stayed after Roosevelt? Just the fact that the bible gets the topic of ants so totally wrong just proves that your book is misguiding. How can it be gods word. Quran brings about a way to live, monetary system, and political system as well as policies of war and divorce. If you have read it then you would know. Also how you should cover up your body and not be so flamboyant like most westernized nations when it comes to women. You say its FREEDOM. Sounds more like the devil tempting you to sin. Then you will probably bring up so many muslim women who hate it. Not true at all. Its a matter of respect incase you didn’t know. Clevage, tight revealing clothing, and so forth is a tool to bring about a shameless society. Same goes for gay marriage. Then again that freedom bell is ringing. Doesn’t sound like what god wants for you in the bible. American company owned of Chick-fil-a stood up and spoke out against Gay Marriage. How bold of him. Only company to do so! He says “I have a biblical view on the matter. I run my company the same as my biblical views. Thats why we are closed on Sundays.” Too bad they will probably lose business because of this and take all sorts of heat. Thats the sadest thing of all. The Western media lies to its own people as does the government. You are all afraid of muslims/muslim countries who don’t have the military or economic means to TAKE OVER THE WORLD like you all claim. Nor do we have weapons of mass destruction. The anti-christ is one eyed! His henchmen work under his sigil. Why do most corporations both british and american use logos that are one eyed or have some sort of biblical meaning. Whats with the dollar bill? Superstition you say. Sure could be. Or it could just be that you are so use to it you can’t even decipher the biggest clue of the anti-christ. The world stage must be set before his return. The quran says it simply. He will make his way to Rome (Catholicism), Great Britian (the island that spies), and the United States. Transfer of power will only go one other place and thats Isreal. Which is the most powerful nation in the middle east. Just have to watch out for Iran and Pakistan. Go figure, the pot is already boiling. India is buying oil from Iran with GOLD. Pakistan is trying to follow suit. The US emplaced dollars for oil, making it the world currency. Kadafi was trying to back the Afro (African Union Currency) with Libyan GOLD. Putting a hurting on that American dollar. Look what happened. Don’t believe. Look it up. Its everywhere. Same goes for Saddam yet he was trying to accept Euros for oil instead of dollars. Therefor underminding the american dollar and making it weaker then it already was then, compared to the Euro. Once a currency is backed by gold it makes it more valuable then all fiat currency. Thing is in Islam is we are all brothers and sisters. The color card is void. We are all human and equals. Even those who don’t follow islam. Jesus Christ is the greatest prophet in islam and loved dearly. God did not allow him to die for he shall return. Mainstream Jews don’t even believe in Jesus or that he is the Messiah AKA the majority. Apple computers symbol is an apple with a bite missing out of it. Sounds like that forbidden fruit. Enjoy being entertained. The 3% in your country owns your country. All your media stations are owned by a couple of men. Your shows like American Idol is just you idolizing individuals who have a chance to become your 3%. Who wants to be a millionaire. Not me. Not nationally known females becoming world wide famous because of a sextape. You are being entertained while your country steers itself into the wrong direction. Thing I can’t stand is your book says you are basically suppose to do nothing and pray. Even facing death. Thats crazy. Islam says if your life is threatened or your families you fight until they want no more. That seems most logical. Other way sounds like animals to the slaughter. The middle east is undergoing massive insurrection. It has stayed the truest to its roots for the longest time. The world is changing due to that FREEDOM bell ringing. The quran states what is going on now in the middle east. Nothing good will come out of it. God says if it was not for the black gold the people of that region would be erradicated. Sounds like Native Americans. Oh wait, your christian ancestors…………60-80 million Native Americans across all the americas is what they say where here at the time of Columbus. What happened to them all. Sounds like a crusade. Oh nevermind the recapture of the Holy Land was because we stole it from the pope. Wish that were the case. The covenant is with Ishmael who they claim is a wild ass of a man and will have his hand against his brother. Well lets see. The holocaust happened. Nazis can’t be ishmaelites. Then the Jews head to the Holy Land. Enslave the Palestinians who have lived in that region for over 1000 years. The jews were just enslaved themselves mind you. Isreal has its hand against every middle eastern nation. No matter what you think. Yes, most middle eastern nations do not like isreal but WHY? For the same injustice that happened to the jews that is now happening to the Palestinians on a smaller scale. Shame! Sounds like a wild ass of a man! Not the other way around. If you bring up 9/11 and terrorists then I will pray for you. Look toward your own government. Deciet and lies are the greatest weapon of the masses. Peace

    • you are seriously deceived, but that is your choice.

      the silver and gold will become useless

      the quran will not save you

      it is full of errors.

      I pray your blind eyes be opened.

    • Hey, you’ve convinced me. Send me an Islam I.D. Card or whatever so I can show it to my friends.
      Now, as for my enemies… where can I get me one of them suicide vests?
      I take an XXL.
      Thanks.

    • Before Moses led the Jews out of Egyptian slavery to the Holy Land, Israel was occupied by pagans, one of their gods was a moon god named Allah. They did not want to live peacefully with the Jews & God gave them the order and the might to defeat them to set up the Holy Land and build the Temple which was demolished. 2nd Temple was built and destroyed by the Romans. Now God’s people according to prophesy are back in their rightful home which is about .01% of all the Muslim lands and within 70 years time has become more prosperous than all of them. If that is not proof of God’s fidelity to His people, I don’t know what is.
      The covenant was made with Abraham and SARAH. Their son is Isaac. It is his decendants that inherit the kingdom. Ishmael is the son of Sarah’s handmaid. Everyone knows Muslims always discount the role of women, but God does not. His covenant was with Abraham and Sarah to have a son. So all you Muslims need to just get over it.
      As for being an American, yes we know that parts of our culture are over the top, but for the most part, most Americans don’t live the way people do in movies or on T.V. Most of us are God fearing, God loving, God obeying good people.
      As for the Native Americans, yes they definitely got treated badly, but not near as bad as when Muslims take over a new area. It is a well known fact that Native Americans fought, killed and enslaved each other long before the Europeans came. Now, they have their own lands, governments and laws now and are able to attend college for free if they wish. It is the least we could do since the land we left them is not so great. But we have apologized and are making amends which is more than I can say for other conquerers.
      All humans can be brutal people. But we are supposed to evolve into being able to work things out. Muslims insist on following the commands and political idealogy of a 7th century womanizing sociopathic warlord. There is a huge difference between a woman dressing modestly and a woman having to be draped in a big black hot tent and someone berrating her and making her feel like a slut if she doesn’t walk around in the tent. Your idealogy brainwashes women into thinking that she is acting like a slut if she doesn’t make herself invisible. That is cruel and wrong. Those things are a hazard for tripping, driving, bicycling and a fire hazard. They are so hot. If they are so great, why don’t the “pios” men wear them???

  190. he is a big liar loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
    i am muslim .. and we don’t believe in this number 666

    i have ever never knew it before .. loooooooool

    and all these things that he wrote it is wrong ..

    don’t be stupid and fool to believe anything .. you have to search about all things he did tell you about it .. you will never find it in quran and islam and hadith .. :)

    i’m gonna tell you something man .. you know allah told us in quran that there is people gonna tell a lie about islam and they will try to give a bad idea about and he said islam like the light , and they gonna try to Extinguish the light .. but they will never gonna extinguish it .. coz allah will never allow them .. and that exactly what happen now .. like in 9/11 bosh did try to tell the people that muslims are terrorist but did you know how many people convert to islam because of this ?? do you know why they did convert ? because they believe bosh and when they search about islam they found the truth .. and they knew that both is a liar .. just like you .. :)

    so i believe that .. some people here gonna believe you .. and they will search about islam and search to the number 666 in islam .. and they will never find anything about it .. then they will know that you’r a liar but at that time .. they will know every thing about islam .. and they will believe in islam .. loooool ..

    keep going and attack islam and muslims ,, to make the people search about it and know the truth .. and convert to islam .. loooool .. :)

    allah is greatest .. the truth never disappear .. ^__^

    • The god is greatest of what?

    • One of the main things that I have noticed is that most Muslims do not know their own books or the teachings of their so called “religion”. It’s not surprising that you did not know this. You are one of millions who don’t amongst many of the other horrible things about Islam that many of you are clueless about. Most of you only read your books a little here and a little there and listen to what your clergy says and think you have a “peaceful, God focused religion”. But if you read all of your books and all of your history; you would know differently.

    • i hope u know tht ur god is saten and tht he hates us christians and jews and tht he wants to be just like yahwah god and he god cast out of heavan wit one third of the angels u want to know how i know this is becuz he calls himself the deceiver and the devourer and he leads astray whom he chooses and he denys jesuschrist as lord and he denys jesuschrist death and resurection and yall symbol and the cresaint moon and star is a satanic symbol and its of the godess diana now yall say yall god is the god of the world well are god is the god of all earth and heavan are god is intimate with is creation and yall god is not hes so distant from yall hes sumbody to worship from far away and are god is not tht are god reveal himself to us cuz he is in the flesh of jesuschrist our god the father even said he said this is my son whom i love and i am well pleased now now u want to know how jesus christ is god well in front of abrahams decendents he said truly i tell u before abraham was born i am and they took up stones to throw at him but he hid himself and went out of the temple now thts all the proof u need its up to u to receive it

  191. I will like the islam and muslims to dispute this by telling the world what they believe of the number 666

  192. It is just more proof of who believers are up against. But God and His people will prevail against them as also prophesised.

  193. i just want to let all of yall know tht allah is not the same god as yahwah god u see allah is the serpent he is saten and tht he hats christians and jews and he denys christ as lord and savior see people need to wake up and open there eyes and ears and see wat im talking bout

  194. peace be upon you

    i’m a moslim i just read this article but it was the first to know that islam interested in this number or any other number in any way , we don’t Sanctifies or give it big interest as you do , we just worship one God and give interest for our Quran not numbers . so you said that the anticrist will claim that he is jesus ” the true crist ” , but actually neither the God ” Allah ” , nor our messenger Mohamad did that ?!!

    and you should also know that we don’t use any symbol not the moon not the crescent not the sword …. etc of theses jokes , they are only symbols of flags of countries not religion ,
    so when you rolled up this symbol ” ξ ” to be like Allah , what if i wrote it like that : الله , now it is not the same and also the symbol lacks to the first letter ” ا ”
    which will make change in the calculation to make it not = to 666 :)
    take in your account that they are two languages not one and they have not the same roots also ;)

    and as you rolled up this symbol , let me also do the same and roll up the letter ” x ” to be ” + ” now it is the Cross , the symbol of your religion , so is that an evidence that your religion have a relationship with the anti christ ?!
    ( it is a joke )
    i’m moslim and arabian also but i don’t have this sign we mentioned between my eyes and most of people here like this , and it doesn’t have any relation with our religion or doesn’t make sense at all !!!

    what do you think about WWW ( world wide web ) i think a non-moslim person created it , and i think all people know that , i don’t know if you have another opinion .

    sura 111 in the Qur’an has just 5 verses not 6 , and i don’t know why you made copy & paste for this information as you easily could open the Qur’an and see it your self :)

    and with all my respect even if it has 6 verses and it is not true , it will not make any sense to me at all with any relation with the anti crist .

    ___

    i respect your religion and any religion also . and also i will not discuss any thing about jews and cristian books about twisting , but look at this :

    song of songs ( Solomon ) 5:16
    His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem .

    the same verse in hebrew language :
    חכו ממתקים וכלו
    מחמדים זה דודי
    וזה רעי בנות
    ירושלם

    now look at this word ” מחמדים ” listen to any jewish rabai reading it , it is ” Muhamadim ” , and you can ask any jew about ” im ” in hebrew you will find that it is a suffix they but after the names to glorify it , so it should be ” Muhamad ” , go and take the word ” מחמדים ” for translating , it will be beloved , but if you removed the suffix ” ים ” AND TRANSLATED THIS WORD ” מחמד ” , it will be
    ” Muhammad ” , but unfortunately some one translated the name to ” altogether lovely ” and no one has the right to translate a name and here is some sites famous and most of people use them :

    http://www.freetranslation.com/

    http://worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

    so the sentence will make sense if it is : His mouth is most sweet : yea, he is Muhammad . This is my beloved , and this is my friend , O daughters of Jerusalem .
    but ” altogether lovely ” make it mysterious and incomprehensible !!!
    ________
    take a look at Isaiah 41:29 & 42 : (1-17)
    the God speaks about some one he choose and loved him to guide people and raise the truth , also has a decent and gently ethics , he don’t tired or stop until he take the rights of people and raise the truth . the God tells that his glory isn’t for the idols , God tells that it is a prophecy not done yet at the time of Isaiah , a new song for the God from mountain of sali’ and lands of Kidar , those who trusted in idols will be turned back in shame .

    Jesus told us that he just came for israilian , but here the prophecy talking about one man to all the people , and all of his properties matches with our prophet Muhamad , his people trusted in idols , people of jesus didn’t , he lived in the land of Kidar as he is from sons of Ishmael as you can find there the mountains of sali’ , the new song for the God you can hear it till now in the pilgrimage in these lands which is now ” saudi arabia ” . his people of idols after knowing the truth they were turned back in shame ,
    now all of that refers and indicate to only prophet Muhamad

    but if you still insist that it refers to Jesus – and it is not – , so you have to admit that Jesus is not a God , Jesus is not a son of God , Jesus is not partner with God , he is only a prophet , because this prophecy was just talking about a prophet not a God or his son :)

    ____________

    finally : if you still think that our religion is from the anti crist or any other jokes , you didn’t had to make such hustle and noise , just wait until the true Jesus come again and we see who will take his side :)

    sorry for writing too much , pleased to talk with you all
    peace be upon you

    • hello Khaled

      peace

      מַחֲמַדִּים is pronounced “machmadim” (plural) or “machmad” in the singular, not muhammed.

      Jesus came first to the Jews, and then instructed his apostles to go to both the Jews and gentiles later.

      Jesus is the son of God. God is the father, and Jesus is THE son, not a son.

      his sonship has nothing to do with a marriage with Mary.

      this is a point of confusion created by the catholic church, not the bible.

      he is more than a prophet. That is why our religions are different.

      thank you, and peace again.

      • What do you mean by someone speaking of a marriage with Mary? Who said that? Are you insinuating that the Catholic Church says something about a marriage with Mary other than her marriage to Joseph? I am confused by your statement. The Catholic belief is that God, through the Holy Spirit made an immaculate conception. No one had sex with her to be pregnant with Jesus. The Angel Gabriel spoke to Joseph to explain to him that Mary was still a virgin and that all would be well if he married her.
        Jesus knew that He would have to die before He even wanted to come here from heaven. He knew what his purpose for coming was. Don’t blame the Jews, they were part of the divine plan. Someone had to be the part of executioner. Jesus’ crucifiction was not only not a surprise but the whole plan from the beginning.

        • lynn marie

          We are on the same page. I was responding to a muslim complaint that Jesus is the son of god. Their counterargument is that God does not get married and have children. The only candidate they see for a wife is Mary.

          • I understand that, but what were you saying about what the Catholics believe about her? I don’t think that they taught that. Looking forward to your answer to clear up my confusion. Thanks, L.

            • Lynn

              I was answering a question I anticipated would be the next argument by the muslim commenter.

              No true christian, catholic or non catholic believes mary got married to god.

              we all believe Jesus was divinely conceived, and he was a product of a virgin birth.

    • Mobarak
      Isaiah 42 is about Jacob Israel and I belong to a church that has a faith that
      Jesus and Jacob Israel is the same person. God calls him his son and servent. Jesus is both.

  195. the whole Artical is bulls**t.

  196. if the number 666 is for devil not man, who of the two was created on the 6th day acording to bible? Was it man or evil?

    • the 666 is the number of a man, who represents the beast, which is the devil’s kingdom in the last days.

      Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number [is] Six hundred threescore [and] six.

      • The kingdom of the devil will be destroyed when as Jesus so clearly pointed out to his disciples that regarding the fine buildings of Jerusalem Mark’s gospel 13 v 1-2 “As he was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!” “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.” The prohecy concerning the fate of Jerusalem and the unbeliving Jew, was not confined to merely AD 70, but also has a future application for Yahweh has decreed Jerusalem shall be overturned a third time, until he comes whose right it is..Ezek 21: 25-27 “O profane and wicked prince of Israel (oops could be an anti-semetic/anti zionist statement), whose day has come, whose time of punishment has reached its climax, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Take off the turban, remove the crown. It will not be as it was: The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought low. A ruin! A ruin! I will make it a ruin! It will not be not be restored (the Kingdom of Yahweh) until he comes to whom it rightfully belongs; to him I will give it.” The trouble that will come upon the nation of Israel and the Jewish people, is all to do with their rebellion. Yahweh intends to purge the Jews of their unbelief, and so rid the land of the wolves who would have Christ removed again if that were possible. Only those Jews who eventually accept their Messiah Jesus Christ will have a rightful claim to being Jewish, and the accompanying promises given to the Patriarchs.

        All of the biblical statements concerning unbelief, and how that manifested in the nation of Israel throughout their history, is for our learning, and to warn us not to fall into the same erronous ways. The nation of Israel has established a precedent for unbelief, and how that has resulted in the killing of its prophets as well as the Son of Yahweh. It seems that the same pack-mentality of the wolf will be seen yet again in this nation, and the man of sin in 2 Thes 2 is the same as Dan 11 who has no regard for the God of his farthers (Abraham; Isaac; and Jacob), and who persecutes the saints just as the wolves have done before..Rev 11: 7-8 “Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss (whose deadly wound was healed/Israel) wiil attack them, and overpower and kill them. Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord WAS CRUCIFIED.” Jerusalem is spiritually Sodom and Egypt..she is also referd to as the harlot in Isa 1 and again in Rev 17. Jesus has unfinished business with Israel and the Jews, and it’s going to be extremely bloody, and very violent!

        So, we must pray for the Jewish nation, that they will recognise the time of trouble that will come upon them from one of their own brethren..the man of sin!

  197. Enough of misleading, we can not accept these erroneous saying no more. Time to move God foward, woe betides the evil doers. You people basically know yourselves. They have sold their lives to them, and never fear Almighty God. Really if you do not repeat yours end shall come like that king in bible. Stupid fellows.

  198. The Qur’an is absolutely correct on this

  199. Wow, so you are not going to answer my question about what you were saying about confusion started by Catholics and what you meant by that. I was brought up Catholic my have some qualms with the church, will always be Christian but just wondering about your Catholic bash. Apparently you don’t want to comment on it so I will just have to let it go. The avoidance of answering the question has taken up too much time and space so never mind. I just think that in a somewhat anti-Christian culture and world that all Christians should stick together especially when it comes to religions like Islam that want to wipe all of us off the face of the earth just because we think their messenger was self serving and not influenced by God.

    • Lynn

      I answered your question. your emaill did not work…..

      see above where i said:

      Lynn
      I was answering a question I anticipated would be the next argument by the muslim commenter.
      No true christian, catholic or non catholic believes mary got married to god.
      we all believe Jesus was divinely conceived, and he was a product of a virgin birth.

  200. The holy quran never state as “666”, this number is state for Satan and is also used by illuminati. The Islam holy number is “786”.

    Please research….

  201. Man am a muslim since born and no word from what you have written is true stop lieing to ppl never heard about the magnificent 19 and 666 is not a holly number stop playing with peoples minds stop u filthy creatures stop your lies will be known one day stop and go back to the right path stop saying things to just make ppl follow your path its not acceptable to use any possible mean even if its lieing if you see that we are terrorist and u r the right ones then at least say the truth and stop making islam look bad and at that point let ppl chose but ull never do soo coz you know very well who is right and who is wrong keep what you doing keep lieing but be sure that one day the truth will be reavealed and peace be upon u all

  202. go count the number of verses in the Quran… the first few chapters alone consitute over 666 verses… get your facts right, don’t believe everything you read. pay attention to what is lacking in your lives, take care of your families, and most of all your souls. no need to waste so much of time on this rubbish!!!

  203. It is much simpler if anyone has read the Koran at all. There is a direct quote from Mohammed which I will not post in which he addresses three things that Jesus said in various locations and combines them into one and turns it around into half baked nonsense. All I have to do is see children with head bands singing songs about their faith being enforced with guns..very sad..and children RECITING by memory negative things about Christianity..which is also not the correct term..it is “The Way” The way that Buddha sought. Buddha sought the Way the Truth and The light. Jesus stated he Is The Way The Truth and The Life..and The Light of the world…in fact he is THE LIGHT when the darkness was separated by Light right there in Genesis, He is also the representation of the sword around the Tree of Life. Any religion that has a book the directly imputes hostility upon another is hate period..and that cannot be Holy..it is completely anti- Messiah. However, there is still hope my friends. There is two books in Heaven. One for those whose faith depends on works, and the other for those who has Their Life in Christ as He is In Them. That why, who is called Allah which in Aramaic is actually ALLAHA not Allah…in the long run, it comes down to each person no matter what or who they are who Seeks Peace Love Generosity Meekness of Spirit, walks in Humility, and is Humble and promotes loving others, INCLUDING OUR ENEMIES… If we want to start bashing, cut to the chase and 1) get to the false teachers for they will be judged more harshly and 2) Forget Politics..and religion that is devised to conquer the world is Anti Messiah. Why? Because Messiah is the Life Giver,, not Taker! Because this world is Satan';s kingdom..and if you want to take over, that closes the deal on that one. .l Wake up and smell the roses. ..they are most sweet. Brothers and Sisters unite…Seek Truth, and where is that…Inside You..and how do we get it in side us? By Having God inside us..and how to get God inside us? We receive his spirit. What more is there to say? Forget doctrines…forget teachers..forget it all. The he said she said game is over. P.S. You built your sacred temple about 2000 yards off Center too.,but it doesn;t matter. Do you think God dwells in Temples? No. he does not..he could care less about our buildings..It is already preserved elsewhere…He is Truly GOD and can do anything. Realize, the Devil knows the good book better than all of us…so get your heads out of the books and use your spirit..Blessings and Peace..lets get out there and take care of those demons bros. Messiah cares most about our hearts whether he already came or not…okay, so some say there is a second coming..what difference does it make if he comes later..? Why wait?! The story has been told.

  204. Amen. The whole scheme of Satan is to make us believe Eashoa M’sheekhah, Yeshua, Jesus was NOT put up on the cross, because then you will not believe that Jesus conquered Death. if you do not believe Jesus conquered Death, there is not a Heaven to go to…what can it hurt to believe it..but beware..there are false teachings and false messiahs and false prophets still to this very day. He did also say there will be other sheep he will bring into his fold…I am speaking not as an American but as a respecter of those in Christ but not of men..and those who eagerly anticipate with loving hearts Savior..Nazareth in Aramaic is Victory…Jesus of Nazareth..all the rest out there is hogwash puke…be not afraid, for he brings us Peace, not as the world knows peace (OBVIOUSLY, look around) but as He Does. And when He decides how are you going to know Him…it is written he actually does not have a name..only he knows His name…it’s all playing with words is what it is really…word games. If the hair on one child’s head is harmed in a vengeful way your already you are guilty, and causing children to rote memorize texts that even contains hatred anywhere within that text is child abuse… unless one turns away and asks God for forgiveness…through his Grace we are Saved and Made Whole..Blessings children of God and of Light…p.s. God does not like cowards either..and I think a religion that promotes cowardly actions is exactly wrong..like bowing in fear and hope one is doing the right works and never knowing until their dying day…Love and Understanding, Peace Grace and Mercy..(although the Koran defines Grace differently as well..which is also a twist of the truth)…It is not easy..I know…just walk slowly..and consider things. And be aware, most versions of the bible overseas in the areas around Syria and the conflict zones are adulterated as well which is why you might be getting false information….gee whiz. and Amen.

  205. ..also know the Satan does into play favorites. There is just as much falsity in certain bibles in the USA, so this is not about ‘being right or wrong’..cool? if the story is true, the Mohammed was poisoned, please let us know..by what? A Jewish woman with a lamb…yet, Jesus Messiah the lamb of God..and the Book in Heaven is the Lambs Book of Life. this is all about politics..all of it..even within the “Christian faith”… Seek and ye shall find, ask and it will given unto you, knock and a door will be opened unto you…seek what?…that is for everyone to figure out..as well as what the Pearl of Great price is..that pearl that is wroth more than any diamond or ruby…what? never heard of the Pearl of Great Price?…you’re missing out..

  206. Here is what i think is the deal and I’ll go away and never come back. Peace be with you all. The Koran came out before broad publication of the New Covenant He made with mankind, his precious children and creation who he gave free choice in all ways regarding his life..but he wants us to have Freewill in all ways..and he is JUSTICE complete…his justice is not man’s justice…it is completely Righteous and Fair..we have our entire lives..thing is, the Koran was put out when? Before..that is BEFORE the new Covenant could be made well known? Why is that? To circumvent God’s Sovereignty it all goes back to Ishmael and Isaac of course which is pretty amazing really…the are both of Abraham..which means somewhere along the line things got messed up (or did they?) Maybe this is all a big test to see where our hearts are you know?…can we trust that was really Gabriel? How do we know it was..Satan masquerades as an angel of light, and not one prophecy foretold Mohammed was coming. Note, this is not about that poor man..I feel extremely sorry for him for a while until he went around having all these people killed. Not one prophet promoted killing in the bible. They TALKED about what would happen…but did not instigate anything..they did what GOD told them, not an angel. I actually do not expect these words will make much of a difference anyway..in Truth..I am not happy I even posted any of this…..there are very good people of Muslim faith I know…at least at first appearances…why are the jihad allowed to continue is what I want ot know? Cannot they be controlled or is someone in the back road letting them do their dirty work. And yes, I know what Jihad is too…it is not supposed to be a ‘bad thing’…but if so..why does all that is going on continuing if not for the fact that S___n knows how to get to certain minds to promote his dirty deeds.?…or it just in our heads..maybe it is all about ego’s…in the long run…who knows FOR SURE? No one! not no one…kicking back the after burners and going for a walk on the beach before this Hurricane Scurries by off the coast..cheers and good will… to all. I think if we are all reading this stuff..we at least care enough to care at all,.

  207. 6 denotes the HUMAN number. Man was created on the sixth day, this first occurrence of the number makes it (and all multiples of it) the HALLMARK of all connected with man. He works six days. The hours in his day are multiple of 6 (4×6=24 hrs). Athalia usurped the throne of Judah 6 years. Goliath, Nebuchadnezzar, and antichrist, are all marked by this number=666 (multiple of 6/man).

    Numbers in the bible are used for spiritual significance and may be used in forms of multiples, factors, sums, products of.

    ie. the number 12 represents: governmental perfection like the Tribes, Apostles, measurements of time, or all things to do with government in heaven or on earth. (144,000 is divisible by 12 and vice versa) The number 11 is one number short of 12, so 11 means: disorder, disorganization.

    6 (man) X 11 (chaos/disorder) = 666

    • Hi Deb,
      I agree with you on the individual numbers (although 11 may be shaky) but I think when you start to multiply them around you are asking for trouble.
      In Revelation, 666 represents the number (title) of a man, specifically the False Prophet. The False Prophet is Christian, not Muslim so this post is pretty much a waste of time. Christians need to stop thinking that God will destroy Islam before He returns. He will destroy what is apostate within His own church, just as He has always done in the past.
      Leave the poor Muslims alone. Just imagine how they’re going to feel when they discover that their religion is just a sham and their beloved prophet was just a big fat liar. Same is true for every other religion of course, but I think the Muslims are going to be super pissed and disappointed. What, no virgins? Bummer.
      So don’t worry, they will get what’s coming to them, but they are not Babylon. They never were, they just own the ruins is all.
      S’all I’m sayin’ here…

      • Again, you mislead, and tell half truths.

        The number is the number of the Beast. The false prophet will make all both small, and great take the number on their hand, or forehead, or be murdered.

        The lawless one that walks into the rebuilt Temple half way through a peace treaty will claim to be G-d. This is Lucifer’s man on earth right before Christ’s coming. Just as Nimrod was Lucifer’s man on earth at the Tower of Babel. The globla Tower of Babel will gives it’s power for one hour to the Beast. Not the false prophet.

        Again, just because poeple take Bible verses out, and make movies does not make the Bible wrong. Let G-d’s spirit guide you in your understanding of his word.

        • 666 is the number of a man. The beast is a kingdom, not a man. There is no Antichrist, just the beast and the False Prophet. No Antichrist is mentioned in Revelation. He is a character in a movie plot.
          Who do you think he is anyway?
          Just wondering.

          • The lawless one who proclaims himself G-d inside the rebuilt temple. I have already provided you with Bible verse on both. The world government will give their power to him for one hour. He will come to power by taking out three kingdoms. The little horn.

            BTW, what do you think Paul is writing about when he states we shall not all sleep?

            • Leatherneck
              Read the descriptions of all the beasts in Daniel and Revelation and you will see they do not describe people.
              If the Antichrist is a political figure / dictator why does he proclaim to be God and not the False Prophet? Think about it… Jesus was a true prophet. He said there would be false Christs in our times. The lawless one claims to be God.
              Jesus = true prophet = God.
              Lawless one = False Prophet = false Christ = Antichrist (your term).
              You have created an extra Antichrist where none is necessary.
              Nowhere in the bible does it say that all the governments of the earth are brought together into a single nation, including Iran and Israel. That’s just crazy and will never happen.
              As for Paul’s comment, he was referring to the resurrection at the Second Coming when some of the dead, who are sleeping in their graves (sheol), those righteous Jews and Christians, will no longer sleep but awaken to eternal life. He also refers to the second resurrection at the end of the millennium when even the unrighteous are resurrected at the Great White Throne Judgement.
              Ask any Jew if they don’t just sleep when they die. Jesus mentioned it 14 times, including about Lazarus. Heaven, hell and the immortal soul are all pagan beliefs adopted by a corrupt church.
              God has enough problem with His own church to worry about picking on the Muslims, like so many believe.
              We shall soon see.

              • the one world government is already in place, and controls all nations behind the scenes. whoever heads it will have all the power.

                the false prophet (second beast) does not claim to be god, he instructs the world to worship the first beast as god….

              • I understand sleeping intill the Resurrection. But, Paul said we will not all sleep. You state this happens when Christ touches the mount of olives. I’m not sure when it happens.

                The false prophet makes every worship the beast, and take his number, or death. The lawless one declares himself G-d. Who is the lawless one who makes a one week peace, or seven years.

                There are ten regions to be controled bt the world system now. We will see seven soon enough.

      • James G
        once again you are dismissing me? you say ‘this post is a waste’ ? my resource was from the jewish companion for the torah… but, no matter, I will not dismiss your opinion. I understand that sharing by some can be conceived as a challenge for dispute by others. and for the record James, I have said nothing derogatory in regards to my Muslim brothers or sisters…….

        not everyone can be the ‘ultimate authority’ eh?

        • james is the ultimate cynic. he is like that with others too.

          • OK thanks for the heads up Marianne… he was close to running me off LOL It feels like he totally missed the ‘purpose’ of my post… as the topic here is about the number 666…

            TO JAMES: I UNDERSTAND YOUR ‘BURNING DESIRE’ TO RESPOND AND PARTICIPATE, HOWEVER; MAY I SUGGEST YOU BE GENTLE HANDED WITH YOUR WORDS….WE ARE ALL A WORK IN PROGRESS HERE :) REMEMBER THE ‘GOLDEN RULE’ WHEN YOU APPLY YOUR WORDS AND WE SHOULD BECOME ‘FAST FRIENDS’ IN CHRIST TOGETHER. WITH LOVE…

            PS….no single one of us are always correct, not you, not me,…and it shouldn’t be about being right. I love coming here to spur me in direction of studies, to read what fellow lovers of Christ say, and to have a safe place, like Marianne so graciously has provided, to fellowship with good folks and to fill my heart with the Holy Spirit.

        • Deb,
          I didn’t realize that you wrote this post on the number 666, I thought Marianne did. In either case, I don’t believe it has any significance in Islam, as confirmed by every Muslim who has responded on this blog. It is just a silly theory and is as bogus as Nibiru.
          That’s all I meant.

          • 666 = www = a chip with GPS, can be reached world wide.

            • Google 666 www hebrew ,and you will understand what I mean.

              • I did. This is what I found:
                .
                666 is total of the numerical values in the letters of the antichrist’s name
                The World Wide Web is not a name.
                .
                666 is total of the numerical values of the letters in the antichrist’s name
                The actual total of “www” is 18 — not 666.
                .
                666 is the number of a man, the antichrist, or the beast
                The World Wide Web is not a man.
                .
                The mark of the beast controls the ability to buy or sell
                The World Wide Web currently does not
                .
                The mark of the beast goes in the right hand or forehead
                The World Wide Web does not.
                .
                The mark is symbolic of the antichrist or beast
                The World Wide Web is not
                .
                The mark is received only after worshiping the beast
                The World Wide Web is not worship
                .
                So Adam, looks like you’re still crazy. :)

              • Adam.. i see where you get this from:

                The Hebrew equivalent of our “w” is the letter “vav” or “waw”. The numerical value of vav is 6. So the English “www” transliterated into Hebrew is “vav vav vav”, which numerically is 666.

                • Deb
                  Yes , thats what i meant. Todays currency will have no value and someone ftom usa will try to implement a new world currency systemvwhich is a chip with gps where we can be reached from world wide. We are not allowed to accept this chip so we need to live without money. That is how I interpret 666 from rev.

                  • Adam
                    I am familiar with this theory being popularized today. When you look at the UPC code bar, already in place to buy or sell; you see the lines on each end and in dead center are longer than the other lines and ALWAYS represent 6…or in other words, the 666 is always present with every single purchase. And the UPC codebar can be ‘read’ all over the world, as numbers are a universal language.

                    Now..I am not as familiar with the GPS tracking codes, but have seen that some run off the 666 code patterns you suggest. And many GPS devices carry the name 666 on them. I am also aware that many people in China use biometrics (fingerprint scaning devices) to buy goods, in combination of having a chip implant. China, home of the microchip, is now producing chips so small and so precise they cannot be detected by ordinary means. ie. smaller than a pencil dot. These microchips are going into ALL our purchases, to include our clothing and even into our medications. In addition, many military and world leaders and prominant figures around the globe have already receive GPS chips. And get this Adam…now there is a group of Freemasons who are running a chip program for children…and the parents are giving permission for it. For example, check out: http://www.mochip.org *that’s ORG not .com

                    The monetary system is a computer-based system now and the ‘fiat’ money we carry around is simply paper that gives us the ‘sense’ of value because we can ‘touch it’. It is backed by nothing of value. The Iraqi economy comes to mind here. Once Iraq gets it’s bankruptcy (computer zeroed out) and the dinar gets RV’d (revalued) there could very well be a push for biometrics or even human chipping. Anyway, that’s just an example. And yes, all chip data is stored in a data base worldwide. I can go to another location anywhere on the globe and have my purchases tracked, thus the www is involved. Currently, paper money limits such tracking.

                    So, yes…eventually, biometrics and microchipping will be the ‘norm’ throughout the world. Hypothetically, if you view 666 to be the ‘mark of the beast’ from this standpoint…we have already received it. But, not sure God would judge us based on using this system if we were unaware of it’s correlation to ‘satan’. Now if 666 represents ‘man’ and the ‘antichrist’/ man, this could point could be supported as we do know this ‘www’ system to buy or trade was created by man.

                  • Who controls international finance, who controls the Federal Reserve, who owns the IMF; the World Bank; the Bank of International Settlements (BIS) a bank that made profit out of the holocaust; The Global Securities Fund for financing wars & terrorism..none other than the zionist banks who sponsor all other Marxist activities, based upon the Babylonian Talmud hate rhetoric towards Christianity. Hence you have a historical paper trail of zionist sponsorship of wars and revolutions, which has ingrained within its mission statement an agenda to destroy the fabric of Christian society, but to use Christianity to promote patrony towards its own cause for zionist supremacy. Anyone who tries to bring this truth to peoples attention, become targets of the zionist ADL gagging organisation, who try to defame those who speak out against the lies as anti-semetic. However, you can’t get any worse than those who with their associates are responsible for financing of wars; terrorism; and revolutions, who have caused the loss of hundreds of millions of lives throughout history..that’s why Jesus overturned the tables of the money-changers, who not only coined the market in his day, but have done so ever since, culminating in the zionist control of world finance and money-markets to this day..with bloodshed and usury they have sinned against God & with bloodshed they will be removed..Ezek 18: 10-13 + Ezek 21: 25-27 & Math 24: 1-2!

                    • this is all lies. You have fallen to the deception of satan, who prompts the heathen world to blame all evil on the jews, instead of him. He wants Israel destroyed, and you have played into his scheme.

                    • the truth
                      Yes you are correct, the world is going to hell. But you must go back to the garden scene to realize that the fault of man is man! God gave Adam and Eve the choice to follow His laws and the Holy path, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOO they fell for the lie/temptation (lucifer/temptation/ man’s lower nature) and decided to break the command/law of God and set their own law/rules. It is man’s law making that has destroyed the world and is the cause of us ‘to surely die’ and not the law of God that surely will lead the world NOT to die, but to LIVE (love).

                      When God gave Moses the law/commandments, the Israelites accepted that they were ruled by God. Now God provided ‘judges’ who were like someone wise knowing God’s law that you could consult in times of trials with other men. Samuel was such a judge and perhaps, the greatest judge, as he was never rebuked. There was no earthly ruler/king, only God. The people stopped listening to the judges, who by the way had saved them from ALL transgressions. Samuel was getting old, his 2 sons were corrupt, and Nahash posed an outside military threat.

                      ‘GIVE US A KING!!!’ they demanded. Now God asked them….why do you need a king when you have me? Samuel warned the people of the dangers of being ruled BY an earthly king, yet they still demanded one. God spoke to Samuel and advised him to go ahead and give them their wish, but also sighted that once this happened that the people had turned away from their godly ways.

                      Saul became the first king of the Israelis. And ever since man has been trapped into following the law of earthly kings who are only men…a form of idolatry. It is the laws of men that cause the evils of this world. Unfortunately, man has be commanding and making laws for other men since day one.

            • They can’t make a chip with GPS without using a power source, mainly a battery. A battery so tiny it will fit in a RFID chip would not be able to transmit more than a few feet and would be dead in a few minutes. So you can forget about a GPS chip. In fact, you can forget the whole chip thing, it will never happen. The entire concept is pure Sci-fi, from a movie plot. It can’t be implemented at this time and the worlds banks are not ready to fold up and give their accounts to some mega-bank.
              And if, as you claim, Jesus is already in the Vatican and will take His place as the next pope, He will not let the Antichrist take power of His millennial kingdom. You predictions are contradictory as well as being fiction.
              And where the hell is Nibiru? Its getting down to the wire…
              Scoff, scoff, scoff.
              Scoff, scoff, scoff.
              I may be a scoffer, but at least I’m right. :)

              • James
                You haven’t done your homework. Many pets today are chipped with GPS locators so if they become lost they can be tracked and retrieved back to their owners. Come into the 21st century James.

                also you obviously did not check out my link:

                http://www.mochip.org

                now kids get one tooo!

                • Deborah,
                  Sorry but I have a degree in computer engineering and I am correct in what I said.
                  There is a difference between an RFID chip which must be read by a scanner on site and a GPS device like a locator collar which is like a tiny cellphone around the pet’s neck.
                  Have you ever designed and built a radio or radio controlled device? Well I have. And I tell you that you need at least a watt of power to transmit to a cell tower 3 miles away. Even a single-sideband C.B. radio with 5 watts of power has trouble reaching 10 miles with an eighth wave antenna two feet long.
                  When you factor in the circuitry involved to create a transmitter (tank circuit, oscillator and crystal) plus the antenna length and power requirements, you simply can’t put a cell phone type device into a grain of rice. Sorry but the laws of physics apply here and no technology can get around it.
                  As for doing my homework, I have done four years of college homework to earn my degree. I’ll bet all you have done is watch a few YouTube videos and you think you are an expert in the field.
                  And it is one thing to invent the RFID chip and a whole other thing to chip 7 billion people and cover the entire earth in cell towers less than three miles apart and connect everyone to a worldwide banking system etc. And the computer / software would be beyond anything anyone has ever built. It would be akin to constructing a building 100 miles high. Sure we know how to build pretty tall structures nowadays, but not 100 miles tall. It is the same with the Sci-fi mark of the beast scenario. Thinking it up is easy but actually implementing such a plan is quite another matter.
                  Satan is preying on the ignorance of the masses to pollute prophecy with false ideas. He has even got millions of people believing in an imaginary planet.
                  Go figure.

                  • my my James…
                    you do speak from the heart don’t you? lol
                    My degree is not in computer engineering, but I do hold one. And for your personal attack, why, yes; I have watched a few youtubes. Technology is advancing faster than a quark can entangle, so even though the technology may not exist at present, or in our lifetimes; who is to say it won’t.

                    be well James

                    • From a practical standpoint, I don’t see a single world bank ever happening. That would require a huge monopoly with no competition. The world’s free trade system would never allow it. But Christ will return before such a plan could ever be implemented, so maybe He will want to use it for some divine purpose, but it will come too late to be the mark of the beast.
                      So don’t look for chips. Period.

                  • James
                    Gps chip was my idea. But when you scan a rdif chip you can see your location so it is also www based. Www=666.

              • James
                jesus will send plagues all over the world when he starts his next mission. We will have poor times and money will not have any value. So their will be a need for a new currency system and Jesus will say that we must live a life without money since money is satans thing. Regarding Nibiru. AllI know is that Jesus next mission will start when Nibiru is visible for everyone. I don’t know the date.
                I’m very happy with my life and I don’t see want poverty so if Nibiru shows up laterthen fine for me.

                • If Jesus has to wait for Nibiru He’s going to die of boredom in the Vatican basement before He ever gets a chance to start. Sounds like his rule on earth is really gonna suck. Hope he never leaves the basement then.

                • Adam
                  The word ‘nibiru’ derived from the Sumerians, it was one of their ‘gods’. It was connected into modern day legend through men like Stitchen, Icke, etc (new agers). It has also been connected to the Hopi legend of the ‘blue khachina’ star and even to the biblical Wormwood. No one really knows if it truly exists, but every time a comet buzzes by, the legend streams back to the forefront.

  208. addendum: the bible amazes me at how many fields of discipline it includes.

    It is:
    a history book
    an astrological guide
    a genealogical record
    a cultural guide
    a geographical guide
    a mathematical codex
    a book of laws
    an astronomical guide
    a spiritual discipline guide
    an agricultural guide
    archaeological record
    literary criticism
    philology
    social sciences
    artifact record
    gastronomy guide
    a clock
    a calendar
    record of rulers/kings
    supernatural reveals
    prophetic dictatorial
    futuristic predictor

    and sooooooooooo much more. It’s no wonder it’s interpretations are often misconstrued….

  209. Well well Mariane, it is you who has been deceived by the lie of the Serpent class of this world i.e. those who Jesus condemned, those who would not listen to his word, who continue to ignore that word, and who put him to death. That class of people isn’t entirely limited to the Jew of Christ’s day, but as a precedent for lawlessness the Jew represents a class of people, who will perish along with them at the return of Christ for their disobedience (Dan 12), including those who take liberties to pervert and misrepresent the word of God, and yes, you do have time to repent of this. The Serpent; Satan; Dragon; Devil; all being apt metaphores which epitomise a Jewish precedent for lawlessnes, that will manifest itself once again in the fig tree shooting forth its leaves (Luke 21:29), forcefully coming to life in the last days, as it tries to rally any who would be willing to help her dress the mortal wound, caused by the curse that Jesus bestowed upon a barren fruitless (Math 21: 19-21) tree/Israel. You like to put yourself forward as some kind of prophetess for the word of God, but you patronise the very thing which has been cursed i.e. natural Israel in a state of unbelief, and in the process make yourself a daughter of the harlot. The fig tree which was cursed and withered, but which comes to life again, is the same language of Revelation 13:3 “And I saw one of its heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed (coming to life again): and all the world wondered after the beast.” Your patronising of unbelieving Israel is certainly wondering after the beast. If you so wish to fall headlong into the bottomless pit, then so be it, but don’t drag those who read your posts down that same slippery slope to their eternal deaths! You are a Jewish nationalist who pretends to represent God’s word, but who of a truth represents instead the political zionist agenda (unbelieving Israel), and therefore, you would be better at holding office either in the Kenneset, or better still offer your services to Mossad’s propaganda department!

    • acknowledged is your condemnation. Ironic that the very ones (Israel jesus came to save, and commanded his apostles to focus on, and he is returning to save after Jacob’s trouble, is the very same group you consider unworthy.

      • Oh my, ‘the truth that is not from above’ I see Marianne is spreading his anti-semetic hatred and lies here as they do all over the internet and the world.

        I as you know believe the time of Jacobs trouble was at her scattering and destruction by Titus and Hadrian with the usurption of her land, enslavement of her people and destruction of her Temple by the same and replacement in the end by the two abominations of desolation by Islam today, as well as the abuses and violence by the likes of the above that has permeated the earth with their hatred of the Chosen People. I no longer believe there is more since Jerusalem has already been divided and half was under the abuses of the Jordanian arabs who did vile things to that part of Jerusalem and then saw it united in Israel again. All I wait to see is for those that hate His Beloved People and Israel to attack her, but, they shall be destroyed on her mountains for the wrath of God shall come up in the Lords face as Ezekiel said and His Mountains that stand yet with Israel shall be part of destroying those who have hated Israel and His Saints for so long as Ezekiel 38 and 39 say.

        Unfortunately the above think and believee the Lord has replaced the root and tree of His Family and people Israel and adopted only the Church without a root but just fluttering branches only for the rubbish heap. They are so dangerously wrong and more is the pity for that hatred we hear in the rant above must be aswered to face to face with the Living God whom they appear not to fear. Clearly he has not read Romans 11 that warns us grafted on branches to not be arrogant and proud and imagine that those whose eyes were blinded that the gentiles may be grafted on until the time of the gentiles be full would have the veil removed from their eyes which is happening tofday and which we are all a part of if we would humble ourselves and be content to be a wild olive tree grafted into Israel through Christ. Ohhh what a tangled web of lies they weave and their pride and hate do not wish to learn from that letter of Pauls or from the Lord of His family He was born into and that He loves…more is the pity…

        ve…I find it so sad…

        This is too bad to hear such thoughts and beliefs that are so vile and outside of Gods’ loving thoughts toward Israel and those who repent.

        • Some followed Paul; some followed Apollos; some followed Cephas; and apparently, some continue to follow Asinus……

        • What a tangled web of lies they weave..umm! Obviously John 8:44 has escaped your notice. When refering to the Pharisees Jesus said verese 44: “You belong to your father the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies , he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.” Whilst the Pharisaical class isn’t confined purely to unbelieving Israel (since it can apply to any who reject the Son of God), it can’t be ignored that scripture puts the unbelieving Jew, at the centre of such an indictment concerning unbelief. The Pharisaical Jews were in Christs’s day the instigators of rejecting the Son of God, and therefore, all such terms relating to their attitude such as devil; satan; continue to stand as a precedant for all subsequent behaviour whether Jew or Greek. However, as precedant and law of first mention, the metaphores act as timeless symbols for that which will arise again in the nation of Israel at the End Times.

          Ok, it is God’s express intention to save His people, of that there is no question, but in the main it will not be natural Israel’s express desire to be saved, even during their “Time of Trouble”..Dan 12. To suggest the time of trouble relates to when Titus sacked Jerusalem is at best total ignorance, since it will be a time of trouble never before experienced by the nation of Israel, and which involves the ten horns/Arab nations of Ps 83, which hasn’t happened yet. Jerusalem has yet to be overturned a third time Ezek 21:27 “A ruin! A ruin! A ruin! It will not be restored until he comes (Jesus) to whom it rightfully belongs; to him I will give it.” The land of Israel and city of Jerusalem belongs to Christ and his seed i.e. the bride..those who have the faith of Abraham, and not those who presume on the basis of nationalism and bloodline of Abraham that the land automatically belongs to them. There will be a very rude awakening for any who insult the blood of Christ’s sacrifice, with such a presumption.

          Continuing with the various terms and symbols used to describe unbelieving Israel/Jews, we are able to understand what grieves God concerning His people. It is strong language and of a kind which is indicative of the seriousness of Israel’s apostacy. When Jesus talks of the fig tree shooting forth it’s leaves, it is the same language as that of the valley of dry bones coming together in the emergence of the Jewish nation at the End Times, and a sure sign that God’s plan is on course. However, many stop at the fig tree shooting its leaves with over enthusaistic patronage towards the fig tree, and forget the summer it is pointing to i.e. the kingdom of God..the true Israel! The fig tree is barren, the valley of dry bones has yet to have its flesh replaced, and it will when God creates a new heart within the nation of Israel. Howver, a new heart will not be easily forthcoming, and will take the time of trouble when not one stone of that which represents Jewish nationalism, will not be left on another, and many will die in their sins. The fig tree which Jesus cursed and has revived in these End Times, is the same language as that of the head which received a mortal wound and has revived. The satan of Lk 10:18; the devil of Jn 8:44 is the same as the dragon; serpent; satan; and devil of Rev 12:9; and is the same as the harlot and her daughters of Rev 16. The common denominator which links all of them is that they deceive.
          Gal 3:6-7 is what the whole of Christ’s redemptive work is all about..”Consider Abraham: “He believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness. Understand, then, that those who BELIEVE are the children of Abraham.” Gal 3:29 “If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.” The promises concerning the land of Israel are conditional based upon faith, and not the presumption of any legal claim as a right of ownership! Rom 2:28: “A man is not a Jew if he is only one outwardly, nor is circumcision merely outward and physical. NO, A MAN is a Jew if he is one INWARDLY; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise is not from MEN, but from God.”

          SO, along with Mariane carry on at your peril to patronise the very opposite to what God considers what isn’t truly Jewish..truly Israel..and worship the barren fig tree whose mortal wound has been healed, but as a watchman I would advise you to pray for Israel to repent!!!

          • Again, what you say is correct, but your tone suggests something more than exegesis. But I think it would be advisable before you cast aspersions to repent to your Heavenly Father for the denigration of His son and our King and Saviour Jesus, by stripping him of his rightful heavenly rank!!!

          • “T T”

            I couldn’t bring myself to write it out. You have set yourself up as a watchman for the purpose of casting aspersions on ethnic Israel-not a prudent thing to do. If you are as wise as you believe yourself to be, you will be the one repenting and finding a way with love and patience to help open the eyes of our Hebrew and Gentile brothers and sisters. Otherwise, you are already condemned by the one you so causually say you serve.

            • Yes Al, and if you can’t follow Jesus’ example “T T”, then try following the example of a kindred sinner Paul, whom said more or less what you have; but without a condemning spirit…but then he possessed the gift of love and the Holy Spirit, which all who know “the truth” will also be endowed with…but that can never be the case where there is an agenda that does not originate with God! It is unfortunate that your great knowledge is imparted with insidious, (though apparent to some) tones of anti-semitism. What a waste!

              • Richard,
                I am not going to get into a protracted conversation with you, which I believe you would prefer not to have anyway
                .
                Words have meanings and carry consequences and my unwillingness to call this person “The Truth” was measured. No one on this earth should assign that title to themselves. It speaks to a problem before even one word has been said. None of us see perfectly clear, so your taking umbrage at that is a non issue.

                I did not condemn the person, but rather the message which you solidly embraced, which has always been the case. It is the heart and always will be of replacement theology. Whether you can accept it or not, you are not a Jew, spiritual or otherwise. You are of Israel, but not a Jew. This reference is to ethnic Israel, by saying that he who is a Jew is one spiritually and ethnically, not just by ethnicity. There is no reference to Gentiles being Jews. It was the choice of the Gentile Christian Church to run with this and has caused centuries of mass murder, torture, confiscation of property and on and on……. Your veiled reference to me being anti-Semitic was understood, but categorically wrong. The Christian Church followers are not the NEW JEWS! After 2000 years, there is as little understanding as there was over the centuries
                .
                I find it incredible that you, for all intent and purpose, agreed with his anti-Semitic ramblings, but just needed to keep Messiah out of it. We have a record in scripture, that in graphic fashion brought the truth of Judah’s failings front and center for all to see, and for those who so desired, to exact their “Holy” revenge on His people, which the Christian Church has done with zeal and is still doing. The failings of the Gentile Christian Church, for at least the past 1700 years, is well documented in historical writings, but no one wants to read that. It’s not part of scripture so pretty much irrelevant. The horrors and atrocities visited on the Jews by their Gentile “BROTHERS” is a stench and a stain that is still in the Church to this day and for as long as replacement theology is alive and thrives. And the Church wonders why the Jews see the name of Jesus as a swear word. Put yourself in their place, the victims of attempted genocide in the name of Jesus. They, the Jews, have paid for their sin for 2000 years. How much is enough????

                What you and most other Christians can’t seem to get your head around, is the fact that the Jews will not kneel at a Christian altar. Won’t happen! What will happen and is happening, since the Jews are back in their land, is a coming to salvation through Yahshua, according to their Hebrew roots. But it is not only the Jews, but also those Gentiles (Ephraim) who are coming out of their bondage of Babylonian style Christianity; Jew and Gentile-One New Man in Messiah. So you see that is the “insidious” plan, the restoration of all things. Brothers (Yisrael) reunited living in peace “in the land”.

                This was Yah’s plan from the beginning and it will happen, and is happening now. I will work to this end with everything that is within me, but conversely I will resist those who work against it and call them out on their replacement made up theology, or those who set themselves up as being superior based solely on their ethnic purity.

                So call me what you will. I would rather have you as a reconciled brother than an adversary. But I will not condone or use kid gloves to work on eradicating the “insidious” idea of Christian replacement theology. It is the Christian Church that will return (the message of Elijah) to their roots of Israel and not the Jews going to the Christian Church to find their fulfillment in Messiah.

                • amen to that. I don’t think either you or richard are anti-semitic

                • Hi Al, Hope you are well,

                  Sorry, It appears that you have misunderstood my comment! Perhaps it should have read: “Yes Al, I agree, and if……. Apologies; take another look. I was fully endorsing your justified disdain for the anti-semtic tone of “the truth”‘s comments, although, as I said, I agree in most with “the truth”‘s exegesis; but the spirit propelling it was one of condemnation, which added bias to the context, I believe. We all know how Israel, by most part, failed God, but those alive today are not those “miscreants”, so it is pointless drawing parallels, even though modern Israel, by most part, possesses the same obstinate heart, in much the same way the “Church” is pagan to the core.

                  In fact, I don’t even know what the so-called Christian Church has to do with Christ, but I do know that true followers of Jesus are “brethren in Christ and of the same mind; and I believe the word “church” to mean “a gathering of people for the purpose of worship, thanksgiving and instruction”, and not a network of buildings housing thousands of denominations who are divided through dissension, and who all originate from the first great apostasy Paul warned of: Catholicism; whom as we know, slaughtered many millions of the Lord’s sheep, as was inevitable, knowing who it’s father is

                  So when people talk about the “church” and “replacement”, it is like for like as far as I’m concerned; obstinate Israel, and pagan Christendom, and I want and have nothing to do with either of them.

                  If anyone can prove that the entity called “The Church”, as it is understood today, equates with the Body Of Christ in God’s Word, then let’s hear it! And let’s not forget that when we see “church” in God’s Word, it should read congregation, which is the gathering of the true brethren in Christ, and not the spiritually bankrupt conglomerate of buildings with distinguishing titles born out dissension.

                  There is only one true gathering of God’s people and that is: “the Israel of God”, which originated with the Olive Tree and received it’s growing instructions from the Council of Jerusalem, and sits nowhere between the two, because it is the spiritual kingdom of God, and thus no part of this world.

                  Spiritual Jews?…for another time! :)

                  Blessings to you Al

      • Yes Jesus came to save, and it took a price which is beyond our comprehension, yet in our feeble way we are truly thankful for His grace and unmerited favour, made possible only through his shed and poured out blood, all for the redmption of mankind, whether Jew or Greek; bondman or free, we are all one in Christ if like Abraham the father of the faithful, we have his faith to see Jesus as the true Israel..the only Israel..the Prince of El..Amen!

        There are many examples in the scriptures of God’s displeasure towards His Covenanted people the Jews, because of..wait for it..their disobedience. In the main the Jews due to their apostacy, didn’t enter the Promised Land on a previous occasion, and it will be true again when judgement comes upon modern day Israel, for their continued apostacy when they will not enter into the True Israel i.e. Jesus and the kingdom of God..unless they repent and we know some will.To the Jew first were given the Oracles of God, and to the Jew first was expected works of obedience, based upon the faith of Abraham. If the Jewish nation had shown works of obedience based upon that very faith, the world which was in pagan darkness, would have been brought into subjection to God’s righteous ways, and legal requirements. However, the Jewish nation did the very opposite, and plunged the world into even greater pagan darkness, and one in which Israel took the lead, until the true light of the world came to address the cause of that darkness, and the disciples of Moses didn’t like it!

        Who were the disciples of Moses (John 9:28); they were the Pharisees and the ruling classes of Christ’s day. It is true that God has blinded (hardened the nation), however, Jesus says of the Pharisees (John 9:41) “…If you were blind, you would not be guilty of sin; but now that you claim you can see, your guilt remains.” The same sun that melts wax, also hardens clay! There were many within the nation of Israel who came to believe, one of them being Saul of Tarsus. So again, God didn’t blind the whole nation, only those who already had hearts of clay. As for the blind man (John 9) who received both his physical and spiritual sight, he was cast out of the synagogue of satan, to become a member of the synagogue of Christ!

        The Pharisees were the children of the devil (John 8: 42-47). Hence we get the same message in Rev 12: 7-9 where Michael (Christ), continues the fight against those who crucified him, where we have the same terms that Jesus used of the unbelieving Jew once before i.e. Satan and devil who try to oppose his reign. Just as a remnant believed during Christ’s ministry, so a remnant will believe after experiencing a time of trouble such as never before (Dan 12). It’s the same language as when Jesus said, (Luke 10:18) “I saw Satan fall like lightening from heaven.” The same language is mirrored in Rev where the harlot (modern day Pharisees and Sanhedrin in Israel) and her daughters will be cast out, so that the new Israel/Heavenly Jerusalem can take its place.

        • Hi “The Truth”,

          What you say about physical Judaic Israel ,I beleive, is scriptural and fair, but is generally not a popular view on this site. Just wondering what you believe the Olive Tree to represent in Rom.11; and what Paul meant by the Israel of God in Gal. 6:16.

          Also, take a look at Daniel 10:13 and see that Michael cannot be Jesus,

          Blessings.

          • Richard.
            My church knows that Jesus is rcangel Micheal.

          • Hi Richard, yes the views I put forward are not popular on this site, because there is confusion over who or what Israel is, and to whom the promises are given. We know that Abraham was given promises to himself and his seed i.e Christ. If we link this to passages in Galations and Romans 2:28 etc, we see a different kind of Israel being the recipient of the blessings. That’s not to discount natural Isarel because God remembers natural Israel for the sake of the fathers i.e. Abraham; Isaac; and Jacob, and for this reason the Jew has to be brough back into a covenant relationship to the glory of God, and for the establishment of the kingdom to take place.

            We know that Michael is the name of one of the Arch-Angels, but it is also a name for Christ. In the same way the name David (beloved) is also used of Christ. If we look at the names of Jacob’s children e.g. Bejamin, this also is a title for Christ i.e. Son of my right hand! The problem is for many of us unlike my Messianic friends who speak Hebrew, we don’t understand the import of the words we are reading, and as such we miss out on the message. It’s a bit like the word believe in the origianal Greek..it’s so much more than an academic belief, and carries more light and shade to its meaning, such as to give credence to etc. So again Dan 10 is the Arch-Angel, but Rev 12:7 is a reference to Christ..after all it is about the Revelation of Jesus Christ, and the signs of his coming!!!

            • “The Truth”,

              With due respect, you are intellectualizing the Word of God by turning it into an etymological exercise, when all that is required is pure logic and a little knowledge.

              1. There is only one archangel (chief angel) and that is Michael.

              2. Daniel 10:13 references Michael as ONE OF the foremost princes.
              Jesus is UNIQUE.

              3. Jesus was talking to Daniel in this verse.

              This is not just about interchangeability of names, there are titles and
              rank involved here.

              If you wish to believe that Jesus is no greater than what was created through him and for him, then you unfortunately have yet to come to know who your saviour really is!

              Blessings to you!

              • Hi Richard,

                If you want to call it intellectualizing the word of God, so be it, if that’s the way you see the Hebraic meaning of God’s holy word. The name Michael means who is like God, and therefore, the meaning could not be better suited to any other, other than the Lord Jesus Christ. We sometimes say of our children, you are just like your father or mother, and it was certainly true of Jesus Christ, concerning the character of God in Christ.

                Anyway, in the first instance the word of God is an intellectual study, and the Bereans were highly commended for their studious approach to the word of God! This is how we come to a knowledge of God’s saving grace in Christ, and then with God’s bleesing it has to make its way into our hearts, so that it means something more than merely intellectual.

                By understanding the meanings of names or words, we can see how their application is attributed to Christ and his redemptive work of salvation for the whole of mankind. Many things in the bible point to Christ e.g. the skins that covered the nakedness of Adam & Eve after they had sinned; the offering of Isaac; the Tabernacle etc etc.

                As for hierarchy amongst the angelic host, yes it is true that there is rank in the heavenly realms. Jesus has superior rank over and above any of the angelic host, because he achieved what the angels could not i.e. Heb 2 verses 14; + 16-18 “Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of the flesh and blood, he also himself likewise partook of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the of death, that is, the devil….For verily he took not on him the nature OF ANGELS; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Wherefor in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. For in that he himself hath SUFFERED being TEMPTED, he is able to succour them that are tempted” No angel of any rank could achieve this..only CHRIST who fought the temptations within his Adamic flesh..he took the flesh of Adam as a prisoner to the cross, and thereupon carried out the death sentance upon the devil.

                So again, it has nothing to do with intellectualizing from my perspective, but rather as you say applying simple logic and allowing the scriptures to teach us what it’s saying, always being mindful of the context, especially when it comes to quoting Dan 10:13..this particular verse is about a prince (Michael) with a lower-case ‘p’, not the Prince (Christ) with a capital ‘P’. Furthermore, when it comes to context we need to remember, that the word angel for example which means mesenger, can also apply to human messengers, not just elohim messengers. Another example of how the application of words; names; titles; are interchangeable as well as vary in context is evidenced in Isa 45:1 where it talks of God’s annointed (Cyrus), but it would be ridiculous to suggest that Cyrus had been a manifestation of Christ by dint of him being God’s annointed. A cursory look at the scriptures will lead to all kinds of misunderstandings, especially regarding knowing who your (P)rince of El is..the true Israel..Jesus Christ!!!

                • Hi “The Truth”

                  I respect your immense knowledge and your eloquent presentation, but again I appeal to your capacity for simple logic which should hopefully cut through what I perceive to be intellectualisation of God’s Word, almost always necessary to explain a plausible? alternative view in the event of a self-evident truth having been circumvented, for whatever motive or reason. Naturally, we use our intellects to assimilate God’s Word, but I am addressing it’s use as a vehicle of persuasion.

                  So again, if you believe Michael to be Christ, then however you dress it, “the Michael” in Daniel, and the Archangel mentioned elsewhere in scripture are one and the same, so you believe that Christ is not King, but rather a foremost prince, thus stripping Christ of his status as the begotten son of God.

                  Also, I ask you again to consider whether Jesus would refer to himself as “Michael, one of the foremost princes” when talking to Daniel in 10:13. If you are saying that this is a different Michael, then I fully understand your reasons for having to do this; but scripture will not support you here.

                  Blessings.

                  • p.s No matter what the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses or similar, and Catholicism would have you believe :)

                  • The problem with your approach is that you are not differentiating, as the bible does, between Michael the arch-angel who is a lesser being, and Christ who is the true Michael..in the image of God, and therefore you must prove your hypothesis, which is really little more than conjecture. The other problem is that if we take what Michael means in English i.e. the image of God, this can be said of all the angelic host since they are all in His image. When any of the angelic host appeared in the presence of mortal man, they would do so as God’s representatives/ambassadors. God’s name was in them (Ex 23:21), in the same way as an ambassador of state bears the name of the country he or she represents. No ma