Why did the Jesus movement die?

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The Jesus movement was popular back in the 1970s. If people are still Christians,  what happened to the movement?

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The popularity and timing

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_Movement

The Jesus movement was the major Christian element within the hippie counterculture, or, conversely, the major hippie element within some strands of Protestantism. Members of the movement were called Jesus people, or Jesus freaks. The movement arose on the West Coast of the United States in the late 1960s and early 1970s, and spread primarily on college campuses through North America and Europe, before dying out by the early 1980s.

Perhaps the height of the Jesus movement was in the week-long gathering in Dallas, Texas known as Explo ’72, which attracted 80,000 young people and brought the hippies of the Jesus movement together with young people from traditional, Christian families and churches.

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If it was so popular, why did it die?

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First, one needs to see the underlying characteristics of the students, and understand the times. I am speaking as someone who was a cohort of this group.

1. The movement as a whole was characterized by a resurgence of brotherly love, and kindness, during an era in which society was being torn apart by the Vietnam War. When the war ended, the social environment changed.

2. The main participants were college students who had college deferments and did not serve in the Vietnam war. Many went to college to avoid service in the war. This was a social activity at school. Once they graduated, they focused on their careers.

3. There was a need to be constantly in an ideal world. This was very characteristic of the hippie population. For Jesus people, Jesus replaced drug use, but the need to escape into Paradise, rather than facing reality, was common to both of them. Some did not go the Jesus route, but participated in the Transcendental Meditation movement instead, something borrowed from the eastern religions.

4. There was a need to feel spiritual, which was ok in itself, but the milk of the Word and the fellowship was for a younger crowd. They eventually grew up, and needed the meat of the Word. Some got this, and went on. Some remained in the past.

5. Many wanted the love and fellowship, but not the hardships and responsibility. Witnessing was reserved to safe situations, to other escapist young people, or others who were already Christians, but wanted “a little more.” The witnessing agenda was canned with a set presentation, and simplistic answers to complicated questions. This was ok, since easy answers worked for a crowd looking for easy answers. They attracted others with great music, that appealed to that generation. There was no deep thought involved. People just wanted to be happy and have friends. Of course, the same was true of any hippie or young person. Dependency on others, rather than independence.

6. Incomplete recreation of the early church. One has to remember that the concept of ministering one to another that went on in the early church was due to persecution of the times, as people sacrificed themselves to bring others to faith in Jesus. The persecution was real, and people died. The Jesus movement included the encouragement of members without the persecution. Getting teased or their witness rejected was about all they would experience. So, their faith was not “tested in the fire.” This kind of testing produces spiritual maturity.

6. Escapism. As hippies, one had the choice of drugs or Jesus. Jesus was legal in those days. Drugs weren’t, although popular with those who did not care about the law.

7. It was easy. So easy come, easy go. Bible studies were fun, but routine in content. When society became more complex and challenging, easy answers did not accomplish as much, or win many converts, unless the situation just happened to be an easy one.

9. Changes in the youth culture towards a more materialistic society. They became successful in the business world through education and social networking. Whatever spiritual growth had occurred in college was regarded as adequate, and reached a plateau. Many commercialized their faith, and made a good business for themselves. They turned into what we call “prosperity preachers” of today.

8. For some, the need to grow up, and deepen one’s commitment to their faith. This would mean to put aside the things of a child, and take on the things of an adult. This does not mean to abandon the faith, but to pursue it in an independent, rather than a dependent fashion, to dig out answers for oneself. This would distance them from fellowship with others, who had preferred to remain emotionally back in the 70’s. This growth is actually a good thing, but it is not manifested in large group settings.

9.  Many had a “bless me club” focus, with a desire for sensational experiences.  This promoted egocentric activity, with the primary focus on getting blessed in a tangible way, rather than focusing on the needs of the unsaved world.

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If the Jesus movement is dead, does that mean Jesus is dead, or Christianity is dead?


NO !!!!!


Jesus lives forever. He is not dead.  :)

But the way Christianity is presented is dead.

Sugar cookie Christianity is dead.

We cannot live in the past, and cling to simpler, easier times, when we face a dangerous and evil world.

We need to grow up.

We need to get smart, and work hard, and put Jesus first again.

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So what changes need to be made?

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1. seek the spiritual gifts, not for self glory, or to be cool, but to make oneself a servant for the Lord Jesus Christ

2. Go deep into scriptures, and go after the difficult answers to modern day questions.

3. Realize that unbelievers are not poor lost things, like in the 70s, who are seeking Jesus, and they do not know it. Most unbelievers have been exposed to sugar cookie Christianity, and the prosperity gospel, and are turned off from it. You will now have to fight doctrine put out by your own faith, in order to witness to others.

4. Look to the Holy Spirit, not man, for answers.

5. Drop the fake stuff, and the prosperity heresy. It makes people laugh at you, and makes a mockery of Jesus.

5. Stop hiding in your house, and hanging around only people who are Christians like you.

6. Get out in the real world and feel the damage.

7. Preach the REAL gospel, the kingdom of God. Heal the sick, and the lame and the blind. Cast out devils.

8. When unbelievers attack you, and accuse you falsely, get a prayer life, and expect to die for your faith. Expect other Christians to be jealous and attack you too. Courage only comes with intimate association with God. Get there on your knees.

Today’s world is not for sugar cookie Christians, who want to sit around and sing. Worship is fine, but what use is it, if you are useless to God?

The Jesus movement is NOT dead. It has just needs to evolve into something more powerful.

This is not the Vietnam War era anymore. Hippie thinking is out.

This is Satan’s final hours. The fight will be brutal. Be prepared or perish.


104 Responses to “Why did the Jesus movement die?”

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  2. I really liked this post. Materialism has really taken a strong hold in our society. Being a Baha’i myself, I love Jesus and feel that He has come again in the form of Baha’u'llah, but still people need to be committed and practice their faith and exhibit their love of Jesus and Baha’u'llah through deeds.

  3. Hi anotherworldcitizen

    How really nice of you to visit my page. I have met some Baha’i students from Iran. They were wonderful people.

    I think all people of faith should be mature, loving, responsible and care about others.

    thank you for visiting
    many blessings
    marianne

  4. We humans need to take our being called, “sheep” more seriously. We have not been smart, anymore than the Disciples really never understood Jesus as they walked with Him. Nor do our shepherds really understand Him so they can teach us properly. Our shepherds are blind, and they lead the blind. How can a move of God that depends on us participating long continue? DavWms

  5. Hi David

    There is a saying in the science world

    “Publish or perish.”

    So goes with Christianity. It is the same concept as “faith without works is dead.”

    Stupid sheep get eaten by wolves, so getting smart is up to each sheep. Pastors were only meant to teach lambs to become sheep.. Now the sheep need to think for themselves, and stop sitting around, or they will be around an 7 more years than they had originally planned.

    blessings
    marianne

  6. A few days ago I watched on NBC or MNBC (can’t be sue) a documentary ‘Witness to Johnstown’. The story of Jim Jones. How suave and persuasive he was to those people! I had difficulty to keep my eyes dry. How much comfort people are craving for. How much one needs to make himself pleased to be omnipotent over those poor souls. For him, and for his follows, it is all the ‘pleasure’ (get pleased) that counts. All in the name of Jesus. This pleasure is what we call in biblish ‘glory’. No one is looking for how to please God for His glory, but going after his own glory. In the beginning part, while Jim is in U.S. before his paranoia and drug use set in, the only sign Satanic was the way he laugh. You should listen to it. It’s much worse than anything in horror movies. Most of time you can detect this from their eyes. For him, it was a later one, but then, most of times he wears a hinted (sun) glasses. It would not be obvious. But just look at the eyes of O’Bomber on TV when he was making right after the vote count was over. Of course, for the sake of cinematography, they make up monsters with horrible facial figures, but among the humans, you can feel something about their character from their voice, their speech (remember it will be tickling to ears and 90% are genuine-sounding), and their eyes. It is not easy to hide who and what they are.

    Speaking of the naive Jesus Freak movement, it is just one of the myriad examples sprung up throughout the human history. That includes also all the denominations after first 2 centuries persecutions (i.e. Roman Papal Catholicism, and its protestant denominations). It includes all the cults derived from those interested in prophecy, Revelation, and predicting the time of Christ’s return (includes Adventists, Jehovah’s Witness, etc.) and other quasi-christians (Christian Scientists, Mormons, Course of Miracle cult, Unitarian-universalits), various pentacostalism, Obamnation’s Afro-centrism, ‘Word of Faith’ and other health-wealth-prosperity gospels (Oral Roberts, Robert Schuller, Copeland, many more, incl. Pure Gospel cult of Cho-yonggi from Korea – the one boasting the largest church in the world with over 700,000 members).

    Now we have an untold number of TV programs broadcasting 24/7 with all their plans, projects, programs, preachings, peddling God’s words, raking money in their pockets those reverends, pastors, preachers, evangelists, faith-healers, etc. Now, not all they say is wrong – that’s the problem. I can see about 90% of what they say is very good to hear. But that score is worse than the Satan’s, which is 99% true and enticing, but better than the politicians (which is about 50% true. O’Hama tops them by flip-flopping to make almost 100% lies because we cannot tell which is truths which is lies, etc. Actually I heard he was now getting on-the-job training from Hillary, McCain, etc. on the issue of economy. It is to be or not to be for Auto makers.)

    Now our task is how to filter them? We need the sword to cut down through the schemers, spammers, squanders, scorners of the truth:

    I have a suggestion here that should work well:

    (1) anything which is not in the bible but is added for their claim. Like left-behinders.
    (2) any preaching which is not based on the Cross of Christ.
    (3) any preaching which does not tell the Suffering of Christ, who calls us to suffer with Him. He never promised us to become rich, to never suffer from physical illness or death. When someone tells you a promise to make you rich, to get return 10 100 1000 times of the money you pull out of your wallet or what little you have and give to God (that is into their own pocket), seed – harvest messages work the same. – Then just run away. If you see healing on TV, you know it’s fake. There are myriads and myriads people ill and sick and hurt. In you home, home at the next door, in the hospitals. If they have genuine healing power (which I do not doubt), why don’t they pop in a hospital and get them healed for God’s sake. Not just faking to have someone walk out of a wheelchair. What is all about babbling in tongue? How does it prove that one is really saved, one has received spirit? It is same as spirit-possessed as a demonic spirit-possessed. It used to be in the closet, like gays. Now they are out of closet. Not only that, they like to show off on TV!

    How we can ask God bless us? God bless this country? Does Sun shine only for those righteous people? No, God sends His blessing to all, good and evil. It’s how you received it, or rather how you realize that you HAVE received His blessing.

    After fashion of WWJD, now, if Jesus comes here, where would you find Him? Will he be there in the Presidential morning breakfast prayer club with pastors (in Korea, they have this one once in a while)? On a TV show of charismatics dancing with slaying by shaman’s spirit to talk with them in a tongue? In a crystal cathedral to give a nice testimony like a celerity? Would he prefer to be with the Pope in the St. Peter’s basilica to give a real blessing to all, standing next to the weeping Mary’s stature? In my bedroom to discuss the bible, where it is not easy to find what color of the carpet is? Or would he rather be found among the homeless?

  7. LOL, Marianne. I hope your tongue was in your cheek when you said the above. It doesn’t take much to see how the churches are set up to gather sheep and keep them under the leadership. (Of course, tithing all the while.) Where is one where a shepherd teaches the sheep to think for themselves? I have been around for a loooong time, and I have yet to see one.

    And if God sends a prophet to speak out correction in a church, what is the usual result? The prophet is sent away in disgrace, for what shepherd will stand for correction these days?

    And the purpose of the Spirit gifts becomes entertainment for feel good moments, while the devil and his cohorts laugh at the powerless sheep who know nothing about spiritual warfare. They know nothing about it because they are caught in never ending milque-toast and elderberry wine sermons of how to enjoy life, not how to defeat the enemy of their souls.

    And when a shepherd actually tries to step out and teach about the enemy’s wiles, he is attacked by the brethren, those preachers who are afraid to learn truth not taught in seminary.

    Let’s look at that verse where the shepherd is supposed to leave the 99 and go after the lost one before it is devoured by wolves. Shepherds take that to mean they should go out and find new converts. But that whole context shows that lost sheep ALREADY had belonged to that flock, and the pastor needs to go after the one HE LOST! But do they? No, they are blamed for leaving and getting devoured by wolves. Now, if the pastor taught truth, even about the enemy, perhaps the sheep never would have gone astray.

    So what I said above I still stand on. Shepherds do not let their lambs grow up to be sheep, if they can help it. If they do happen to grow up, they become unwelcome, for they will have seen the folly they are being taught…. DavWms

  8. hi Oun

    You sound like a regular Encyclopedia of church knowledge.!!!

    Good comments.

    blessings
    marianne

  9. Hi David,

    Fake preachers and pastors are the one thing that will really push my alarm button. :)

    I have written several posts on this topic

    here is one example:
    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/false-prophets-and-teachers-%E2%80%93-characteristics/

    they got the sheep in bbaaah bbaaah land.

    marianne

  10. Marianne, I’m not talking about the obvious fake pastors. I am saying that I know of only a VERY few who will seek deep truths that are found in the Bible. They teach what they were taught in seminary by others who never sought deep truth, either.

    Then after becoming “educated,” they fear even discussing with another, things they see and hear that do not fit in the box they have put around spiritual matters. They do not dare let their peers know they have for example, seen a Christian whom they know very well, manifesting of demons.

    No, they don’t dare let that be known that a Christian can have demons. But worse than that, they don’t even realize that “the old man” in us they talk about is demonic. No, they keep it sounding milque-toast. Never dare to take seriously God’s words that His people perish for lack of knowledge. .. DavWms

  11. hi David,

    are you talking about pastors who intentionally are like this, or they are just ignorant themselves.?

    marianne

  12. Hi, Marianne. In my first comment I think, I used the term, “Blind.” When we talk about being spiritually blind, it means they do not know they are blind.

    Long ago, you put my e-book “Walking With God” on this site for anyone to read. This type blindness is the main subject of the book. What I show in the book is that this is Scriptural to any who will open their Spiritual eyes. But that the seminaries teach their students to only see what they themselves have seen in the Word, but no more. (They are rich and need no more.)

    For example, if you went up to a large detailed work of art and only looked at two square inces of it in one corner, you would only learn what is in that context, but would miss the overall message the artist intended.

    A long time ago I had just watched a docu on the pyramids in Egypt. As I walked away from the TV, I was wondering if that one we always see, the one without the capstone was the last project the Israelites had worked on. (Jesus is the Capstone.) Then I heard, “Watch this!”

    An open vision appeared before me. I saw a huge pyramid made of many shaped stones. I “understood” each stone represented a Bible verse. Then I saw a red line go from one stone all the way across the structure to another stone. Then the red line went elsewhwere to another stone, etc; Shortly the whole pyramid was red. I got the message that “Every verse in the Bible should be seen in the light of every other verse.”

    As I pondered this, I realized it meant that yes, we should read in context as we search out a detail. But we cannot see His overall meaning without seeing the whole Bible too. That opened me up to see things I had never seen before IN THE WORD! Even what Jesus was telling His disciples was importsant when we are reading what happened for example, to Joseph and David. VERY important! But I have yet to hear anyone teach what is available to open spiritual eyes.

    People want all to stay as it is, thinking they are rich, and have no need for more. Lukewarm Laodacia, and they do not know it… DavWms

  13. Hi David,

    I wonder what the meaning of these numbers mean, then…

    http://agards-bible-timeline.com/q10_bible-facts.html

    Words: 783,137

    Verses: 31,101

    I wonder if that has a hidden clue to something.

    marianne

  14. Hmmm, I don’t know, Marianne. I envy people who can make sense of numbers and such. So many Bible things intrigue me, but He only showed me what He wanted me to see. I know after reading your book, that you understand that learning deep things costs a price. It is suffering by experiencing what Jesus experienced when He was persecuted.

    I would like to say more, but it is written in my book. I almost always get in trouble when I speak of these things, because it is not what people were taught. That is why I had to sneak into the real truths my book shows. I layed out Bible stories then showed how they really told another story that few see.

    I went to a seminar Saturday, and was encouraged as Charles Kraft taught about evil spirits. But there were only about 30 present. I saw some get their eyes opened, tho, as it became obvious Christians have demons. I just wish this knowledge was out for all Christians to see. How else can the Bride cleanse herself for His coming? And yes, Rev. 19:7 says the Bride will prepare herself! So that which we hear that we are ready for His coming for us may not be so. I see lots of spots and wrinkles, as I’m sure you do… DavWms.

  15. hi david

    I hope many people come to be part of the bride.

    marianne

  16. Hi Marianne,
    Interesting term “The Jesus Movement”. It was a great time in American history. My wife was saved during the Jesus Movement at a Billy Granham crusade. The salvation experience “stuck” and we as faithful as we know how.

    It is awesome that there is still at least one more Jesus Movement that none will be able to deny. We can only hope it is sooner than later.

  17. Hi archie,

    I think the 70s was “phase 1″…..we need a “phase 2″

    blessings
    marianne

  18. Christianity is still alive and well. That is the true “Jesus Movement”.

    I remember the Jesus movement of the 1970′s, and it was anything BUT Christian. A bunch of them went around, thinking that Jesus was going to take care of them and therefore they didn’t have to work, create, take care of themselves or their families.

    They went around waiting for the REAL Christians and churches to feed them, provide housing for them, medical care, …

    WAIT! It sounds like the folks on the left who voted for Obama because they think he will provide for all their needs.

  19. Hey DEebbie

    Cute comment. :)

    marianne

  20. LOL, Debbie…I was in that movement too. With Ralph Wilkerson at Melodyland Christian Center and Chuck Smith’s Calvary Chapel both close by, we got to see a lot. So many of those hippies from Cal. Ch. went on to be preachers and plant new churches all over the world. It was an awesome time… DavWms

  21. LOL, Debbie…I was in that movement too. With Ralph Wilkerson at Melodyland Christian Center and Chuck Smith’s Calvary Chapel both close by, we got to see a lot. So many of those hippies from Cal. Ch. went on to be preachers and plant new churches all over the world. It was an awesome time… DavWms

  22. Hi David,

    I never made the connection until now. I have been to Ralph Wilkerson’s Melodyland, but after he turned over the church to that guy from South Africa. I met Ralph in California, when I went to Anaheim for a science meeting, but did not realize he was part of the movement. This was about 10 years ago. I am trying to remember the exact location I was at, but he and his wife prayed for me, because I was sick that day. I just remember it was a small room now. He is a nice man. I have traveled with him too, once, when I went to Israel with Benny Hinn. They sold the Melodyland property to Disney.

    blessings
    marianne
    marianne

  23. I was around when allof this was tsk8ing place and I think the communals killed the movement. Within the commune, the group was considered more important than an individual. Also some lesaders were authoritarians.
    I remember Jim Jones, and can see how easily the enemy fooled these people, at the end of the movement. I think more people began reading the bible for themselves and moving out to fulfill the great commission, instead of gathering in one place. JMO

  24. Hi Rev Williams

    I agree that communals contributed to this decline. It goes back to the basics. If you build the church on the Rock, then it will stand. If you build it on some other priority, it will fall when the storm comes.

    blessings
    marianne

  25. hi marianne, i enjoyed your article. i won’t comment on much… i just wanted to mention how i am persuaded that it is nothing short of blasphemy when Jesus is reduced to slogans, T-shirts, and camp-outs.
    (i was still a baby when the hippie movement was choking out its last breaths!) but Jesus is still mocked in this same way, by SO MANY who call themselves “Christians.” i am ashamed of myself for how lightly i have taken the subject at times. sometimes Christians even make jokes about our Lord. this should make us ill. He drank the cup of the wrath of God because of our own foolishness and evil hearts. we cannot even comprehend it, yet we toss His name around like a household term.
    may God sober our hearts for coming days of testing …
    and may God bless you always…

  26. hi looseassociations,

    I was a member of this generation. Between the Christians, the corrupt politicians, and the businessmen that crashed wall street, I cannot say my generation contributed much to God’s work.

    Now we will all pay for this….It is good to hear the next generation has a little more sense.

    blessings
    marianne

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  28. THE FIRST AND ONLY CHANGE THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE IS SIMPLE. EVERYTHING ELSE FOLLOWS AFTER IT.
    1. FALL IN LOVE WITH JESUS CHRIST

    The Jesus movement was intense because these people were having first-hand experiences with Jesus. Some people fell in love with HIM, others fell in love with the feeling or something else, like the crowds or the success of being a Christian artist. They didn’t last. My parents met Jesus in this movement and they haven’t let Him go. And, actually the Jesus Movement is alive right here in my hometown. We have a semi-small church family who have forsaken the glamour of modern Christianity and have re-kindled our first love with Jesus. It feels, looks, and sounds like the Jesus movement expect with a unique added flavor. We have learned to revel in Him and to hear him talk. From the young to the old.

    YOU PROBABLY WON’T BELIEVE ME UNLESS YOU SAW US.

    Free from sin and in love with Jesus Christ,
    Melissa Coolidge
    Yuma, AZ

  29. Hi Melissa,

    Yes, I would believe you. And I would love to see you. There are many of us who grew up, and did not abandon our first love. This post was mainly about those who did not want to grow up, and want to live in the past, with an immature attitude, just living for their own desires.

    In fact, the Bride of Christ that is among us now, matured, and full of the meat of the Word, has grown through much suffering, and will be active as our country fails, and people need the Lord more than ever.

    I am very happy that this love of God passed from your parents to you.

    blessings
    marianne

  30. if we look at the magnitute of what we are talking about, martydom, we really need to fill our hearts and get strength from the Holy Spirit. Otherwise we will find ourselves right along with those others in the JM. It takes a lot of work, prayer,fasting, giving up certain things and people in our lives and of course preaching the gospel with the possibility of imprisionment or even death. I beleive that this is whats to come in the near future. Yes we need to continue to talk about it but more so be in the word and in pray. Strengthen yourselves my brethren for the time is at hand.

    Nissi

  31. Hi Nissi,

    True, what you said. For the future that is coming quickly, it is either “grow up”, or lose out. We all need to go deeper, and grow up more than we think we do, if we are to be tested and found faithful.

    blessings
    marianne

  32. Maybe the “Jesus Movement” did grow up and become the christian right. Were do you think all those “values voters” came from in 2004? Also, the “hippies” you talk about were a minority of the young people in the 60′s and first few years of he 70′s. Most kids back then were just kids, some with long hair some, with short hair, some smoking pot, or playing with tarot cards and troll dolls (did you know troll dolls were demon possessed? That’s what we were told in church.). I knew some of them. Just regular teenagers with typical teenager problems not a lot of spaced out acid-heads. There was no unifying “hippie” philosophy among them. But today everyone thinks the 60′s were just crawling with hippies. Well, they weren’t. Most people had short hair, held jobs, got married. A few who were odd stood out from the crowd and they are the ones who get all the press and publicity.

    The Jesus Movement was a mixture of honest seekers, opportunists, and fraudsters like any spiritual movement. Why did it “go away?” is the wrong question. What is being called the Jesus Movement was really little more than a marketing strategy of the Evangelicals and Pentacostals to gather more members.

    A few longhairs who gave up dope and free sex for Jesus (as defined by the Evangelicals and Pentacostals) at mass rallies with 50,000 people does not constitute a Jesus Movement anymore than the same sorts of people going to live in shacks in the woods constituted a back-to-the-land movement.

    And by the way, back then the “Jesus People” and the “Jesus Movement” were preaching the end is near just like this website is. Every little thing that happened in the news was a “sign” and we had better get ready because he comes as thief in the night and you don’t want to found asleep etc etc etc etc.

  33. Hi 2soil,

    I agree with what you say. It was a mixed group.

    Jesus gave certain signs to watch for, so that is what we do. It does not mean we know any exact date, because even Jesus said only the Father in heaven knew the exact time. I think even secular people have noticed this world is getting more dangerous, and stressful. My website is focused on multiple topics, and guessing “when” something might happen is done to satisfy curiosity, and it is kind of fun to guess sometimes. It is a nice mental exercise to search scripture, and try to analyze it. I do talk about other stuff too.

    For each of us, our own personal “end times” is our own lives, which could end at any moment. Idealistically, we cannot hope for a future time, and only THEN improve our behavior, and faith. We should be doing that all along, and not waiting until the last minute. God purposely does not tell us things, so that we should be ready at any moment, and on our best behavior.

    The Jesus movement was commercialized, yet sincere people did come out of it. Believers need to get back to what Jesus taught, and forget the materialistic stuff. Those who are not believers would then have a much better, and more accurate, impression of what Christianity really was meant to be.

    blessings
    marianne

  34. What was Christianity “meant to be”? How would you or anyone know? I find it strange that in the ~1975 years since the crucifiction that so many people have been coming around claiming they know what Christianity is supposed to be. This website is like that, too.

    And what is it that Jesus taught? Again, what Jesus taught and what he mneant is the subject of various interpretations and this website is no different.

  35. Dear 2soil,

    If you read the gospels and what Jesus taught, you will see what Christianity was meant to be. My website is a sincere attempt to understand, and explain, what the bible says, and expose problems that I see, so they can be corrected. I do my best to interpret correctly what I read.

    I am open to any questions or criticisms. Is there something I can answer for you? Did I say anything that is wrong? My desire is to find the real truth and present it.

    I can appreciate the frustration that unbelievers have over inconsistent and false presentations of the gospel of Jesus. In essence, man is in bondage to this world. Jesus came and forgave people their sins, encourage repentance from wrongdoing, healed the sick, feed the hungry, and delivered the oppressed.

    That is what Christians are supposed to be doing now. If they aren’t, then they are deficient. I think (my opinion) that we have been waiting so long for Jesus to return, is that the church has not been doing what Jesus instructed. They are too preoccupied in being on TV, being important, raising money for themselves, and selling books. This saddens me.

    blessings
    marianne

  36. I have read the gospels and the rest of the bible too. It is just an assortment of poorly edited stories purporting to be the word of some god. And then there are the so-called ‘lost’ books and ‘apocryphal’ books purporting to be written by various prophets like Daniel or apostles like Paul and Barnabas. Why not include them?

    Its all a matter of opinion and nothing more.

  37. Hi 2soil

    Ok. So you do not believe the gospels. I never said you had to. What do you do for a living?

    blessings
    marianne

  38. Actually, I do have to believe the gospels (the 4 official ones at least) if I am to avoid hell or eternal damnation. That appears to be a theme running through many parts of this website.

    But I don’t believe the gospels or any other part of the bible included the writtings excluded by various theological councils whether Jewish or Christian. I don’t believe that these writngs are inspired by god nor do I believe they are historically correct.

    As with any religious writings that have made it into the canon is that they were written to promote a certain point of view about who the ‘real’ god is as opposed to the god or gods of pagans and sects now considered heretical. Hence the lost books and apocryphal books that almost no average Christian has ever heard of.

    So which Christian and Jewish writings are really inspired? Just the ones between the covers of your King James Bible? Or should you also be reading and praying over the ones found in clay jars by the Dead Sea lost since about 100 BC? How about the ones found in clay jars found in the Sinai desert some 60 years ago after being forgotten for almost 1600 years?

    Waht do I do for a living? I am employed if that’s what you mean.

    So what is the word of god? The people who wrote on those scrolls from the Dead Sea and from Sinai thought they were writing downd god’s words. Are they wrong?

  39. Hi 2soil,

    It is not an option to pick and choose through God’s word in order to satisfy oneself. The doubts you raise about the validity are based on speculation and unbelief, or some nonsense off the internet, not proof.

    The Dead Sea scrolls reinforced what was written in the bible. The early apostles chose the core of what was to be read, which is what we have now. The basic documents for the New Testament were chosen 2000 years ago, and preserved. Nothing else was allowed in. The documents had to be approved by only the early apostles, and then passed down.

    Unless someone was a direct witness to Jesus and his ministry, the writings are excluded. That includes, obviously, false documents that crept up over time, as well as reasonable ones. For example, my writings on this site are reasonable, but I still was not an original witness. Therefore, my writings will never be part of the Bible.

    I asked what you did for a living for a reason. I am a biochemist. I have studied all the texts required which are part of basic Biochemistry. These are backed up with scientific evidence that they are true. Those who were experts put this series of information together so that I, also, could learn and be a biochemist.

    I do not pick and choose which things I believe. The experts do. I accept that DNA exists, and I accept that DNA is made a certain way. I accept that there are enzymes that perform certain functions and the cells in my body have certain activities. Why? Because the information was compiled and presented by the original investigators for future benefit. I accept what Einstein proved. I accept what other scientists have found. I do not sit around and decide that only enzymes exist, but DNA is a hoax. Whatever you do for a living….you have followed the same educational process.

    blessings
    marianne

  40. Marinne;

    I got saved 1972 during the Jesus Movement. Here’s a video/song of encouragement for believers as we go through the hard times!

    http://www.bornagainamerican.org/

    Kittii

  41. Marianne:

    I hope you don’t mind me putting a plug in for this video again. I didn’t know it was on YOU TUBE. It’s so inspirational and I don’t want your bloggers to miss out. I’ve gotten a lot of good feedback on it and so many people enjoyed it. We could all use inspiration right now.

    Kittii

  42. I went to the Calvary Chapel Celebration on May 23rd at the Anaheim Convention Center. Most people associate Chuck Smith with the Jesus Movement of the 1970′s and the hippies.

    http://www.openheaven.com/forums/printer_friendly_posts.asp?TID=32170

    It was very full at the convention center, but I wanted there to be standing room only. If any one is not aware, Pastor Chuck Smith had a stroke in January, but he had a full recovery. He said something very significant that stayed with me at the convention center and I had to ask one of our doctors about it. He said he can’t help but get emotional and want to cry. If you know him, that’s not like him. I think it’s very interesting he recovered from the stroke but was left with this residual. Is the Holy Spirit doing a special work in him?

    Love Song was one of the original Jesus Movement bands. They played and Chuck is going to be going up the Coast of California this summer with them and they are going to play and preach the word wherever God leads. In David Wilkerson’s devotional e-mails he believes God is going to do a fresh outpouring of His Holy Spirit before the rapture and I believe him. I need to believe it with all the doomsday stuff I keep hearing

    THE LAST OUTPOURING
    by David WilkersonTHE SPIRIT AND POWER OF ELIJAH

    The Old Testament closes out with this glorious prophecy: “Behold, I will send
    you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the
    Lord: and he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart
    of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse”
    (Malachi 4:5-6).

    Jesus said of John, “If you will receive it, this is Elijah, which was for to
    come” (Matthew 11:14). What Christ was saying is, “John the Baptist has the
    spirit and power of Elijah upon him—if you could just see it.” We are told
    the angel of the Lord prophesied to Zachariah that his son John would “go forth
    before the Lord in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the
    fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make
    ready a people prepared for the Lord” (Luke 1:17).

    I believe Malachi’s prophecy is for today also. I believe that once again God
    is going to put upon many of his chosen servants the spirit and power of
    Elijah. And these men and women of God are going to be mightily used to bring
    about a restoration of families. Divorces will be canceled! Children will be
    convicted of their rebellion and be restored in love to their parents.

    This prophecy is being fulfilled before our eyes—right now. In a Texas town,
    an unassuming young pastor began to pray for the salvation of the youth in the
    local schools. God anointed him with the dynamic spirit and power of Elijah and
    not only have hundreds in his local school been saved, but the restoration is
    spreading to schools wherever he goes. Not hundreds but thousands of high
    school students are being convicted of their drugs, alcohol, sex and rebellion.
    Young people are hurrying home from outreaches to make up with their parents.
    They have been confessing deep hatred, but now they weep and repent! This will
    spread all through the land because God has promised to restore parents and
    children.

    Because of what I see coming, I am so excited I can hardly write these words.
    Unknown, unassuming, humble young men and women of God are being miraculously
    touched and anointed. They have been given a supernatural mission to “Go
    forth—and restore! For the day of the Lord has come. The cankerworms of drugs
    and alcohol are no longer permitted to eat away at the life of the youth. God
    will destroy the cankerworms.”

    The Last Outpouring
    By David Wilkerson

    I know some will not receive what I am about to say, yet many will. I do not
    believe we have yet seen the glory and fullness of the outpouring of the Holy
    Spirit as prophesied by Joel. What we have seen are just a few sprinkles! Yes,
    we have had a worldwide charismatic renewal and love has brought many together.
    It has been an experience shared worldwide, yet it is just a foretaste.

    God will permit nothing to hinder what he plans to do. The enemy is in for a
    surprise. Just as it appears the church will be inundated by a satanic flood,
    the Spirit will raise up a standard. Understand what that standard is, and you
    will understand what God is about to do. The standard is a holy people, pure,
    undefiled, delivered from the corruption that is in the world. That standard is
    a new breed of sanctified Christians, who will shine forth as lights in the
    midst of a wicked and perverse generation. It will not be just a renewal of
    love and praise, but a restoration of holiness unto the Lord!

    There will still be shouting and praise, but it will be the shout of victory
    over sin and compromise, fulfilling the purpose of the last outpouring: “That
    all who call on his name shall be delivered…” (Joel 2:32). Delivered from
    what? From sin! From the spirit of the world!

    We will not have had the fullness of the Spirit’s outpouring until baptized
    people separate themselves completely from the world. We must emphasize
    separation and purity of heart. The purpose of the Spirit’s coming is to
    sanctify and prepare a people for the Lord’s return, a people without spot or
    wrinkle.

    When the fullness of the Spirit’s outpouring comes upon all flesh, conviction
    for sin will be everywhere. “He will convict the world of sin, and of
    righteousness, and of judgment” (John 16:8). That is the outpouring of the
    Holy Spirit!

    Tragically, too many speak with tongues, but then live like the devil. Sin was
    never uprooted and all they received was an experience of ecstasy. God blessed
    them just enough to call them into a deeper life of holiness and submission,
    but they stopped and went about saying, “I’ve got the Holy Ghost.”

    Oh, there is so much more! I thank God for the privilege of praying in an
    unknown tongue; it is my way of releasing all the pent-up praises to God in a
    communication beyond my understanding. But you can speak with the tongues of
    men and even angels, and without charity, you have received nothing. But I say
    it goes even deeper. You are not truly baptized with the Holy Spirit until
    every hidden part of your soul has been exposed—and every sin confessed and
    forsaken.

    SPECIAL REQUEST: PRAYER FOR REVIVAL IN NEW ENGLAND

    I am requesting prayer for a spiritual awakening in New England. This burden
    for special prayer for revival began at our Bible school, Mount Zion
    International School of Ministry. The leadership was led by the Holy Spirit to
    begin prayer intercession in anticipation of a Holy Spirit outpouring.

    New England is the birthplace of revivals in America. Now in sobering times,
    God has seen fit to place this prayer burden on many intercessors. Many are now
    sharing their heart cry, “Oh Lord, rend the heavens and come down. America
    needs a spiritual revival more than in any time in history. Lord, do it
    again!”

    Please share this burden with all your friends and contacts. For more
    information, contact us at prayer@mzisom.org or by visiting us at
    http://www.mzisom.org.

    DAVID ENCOURAGED HIMSELF IN THE LORD

    These are familiar words: “And David was greatly distressed” (1 Samuel 30:6).
    He had just returned from Gath, where King Achish had said to him, “Thou art
    good in my sight, as an angel of God” (29:9). With those praises ringing in his
    ears, David and his men returned to Ziklag, anxious to be reunited with their
    wives and children. However, they found their city burned to the ground, their
    homes destroyed, and their children and wives gone. The Amalekites had invaded
    while they were in Aphek and taken captive all that was precious to David and
    his men.

    What a horrible day of infamy in the life of this anointed man of God! “Then
    David and the people that were with him lifted up their voice and wept, until
    they had no more power to weep” (1 Samuel 30:4).

    The people rose up in anger, and because of their overwhelming grief, there was
    talk of stoning David. David himself was torn with grief, with not a tear left
    to shed. “And David was greatly distressed” (v. 6). They had come to the end of
    their rope, all hope gone and swallowed up in grief and despair.

    What does a child of God do when discouragement sets in and he feels useless,
    like a complete failure, abandoned by God and rejected by those who once cared?
    Believe it or not, God was in this apparent tragedy. God had incredible
    blessings ahead, but he had to be cast completely into the hands of the Lord.
    This was a situation that no amount of human resources could solve.

    “But David encouraged himself in the Lord his God” (v. 6).

    David learned to stand alone, dependent only on God and finding all he needed
    through personal communion and affection for the Lord. What a victorious
    sight—David standing amid the ruins of his life, rejoicing in God’s
    faithfulness and encouraging himself in the presence of the Lord. He came to
    see that all that really counts in the face of death and despair is a personal
    knowledge of God.

    Once the lesson was learned, God opened the heavens and spoke clearly to David.
    Directions came loud and clear. David inquired, and God answered, “Without fail
    you will recover all” (1 Samuel 30:8). There was nothing lacking—David
    recovered all.

  43. Does anyone remember Larry Norman’s song: I’d wish we’d all been ready?

  44. Hi Kitti

    Looks like you have some fond memories. God bless you.

  45. I do have fond memories, but the pastors are always saying the best days are yet to come. Where were you during this period of times? What’s your testimony. Maybe you should share it. I love testimonies. Christians used to get up and share their testimonies more during this period of time. I never get tired of hearing them. I used to think I didn’t have a testimony, but I feel different about that now. I went to someone’s funeral last summer and she had such a awesome Eulogy, I wanted to make sure the next 20 years of my life wouldn’t be wasted. I hope I could live up to things that were said about her in my life.It really spoke to me about what’s important and priorities. I haven’t gone to that many funersls.

    • hi kitti

      I was not part of the Jesus movement. On my college campus, I did not see any activity like this. I just attended a traditional church at the time, and went to school.

      after college, I went out on my own in the world, worked and supported myself, and spent time in the word in my spare time, unaware of the Jesus movement.

      It might surprise “Jesus people” that someone could be unaware of them, but I only went to a small college, and I guess the movement only focused on larger campuses.

  46. One more memory, this You Tube didn’t go through for some reason.

  47. God’s always doing a New Work and the Jesus Movement never died it turned into the Harvest Crusades at Stadiums. I miss those huge responses of alter calls at Churches. Maybe you weren’t aware of it at the time because you are from back east and it began in California. It wasn’t on the college campuses per se. I was in highschool. It began with the hippies and drug culture.Calvary Chapel is worldwide now with over 1000 churchss in the United States. There is even a Calvary Chapel Jerusalem, although the web site has been removed.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvary_Chapel

    Calvary Chapel Jerusalem
    http://www3.calvarychapel.com/church-details.cfm?ChurchID=100693
    http://www.forzion.com/

    http://www.calvarychapel.com/
    http://beta.calvarychapel.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5&Itemid=69

    http://www3.calvarychapel.com/international.cfm

  48. I hope you don’t mind me posting all these videos, but I just ran across another song from that err. I’ve been enjoying the songs and testimonies, even if no one else it. I’m glad I have a place to post them. Thanks.

  49. I looked up the history of Maranatha Music:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maranatha!_Music

    It’s something else that we can get this information so easily

  50. I didn’t know Larry Norman passed away in 2008 at the age of 60. That is so young. Here’s a song for Abigail, since she likes the subject of Ufo’s and post videos on them all the time.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Norman

  51. Here’s a goodbye song from him. I never heard this song before, but when you like someone, you like most of their music. Farewell, Larry. I can’t wait to meet you in person in heaven someday.

  52. When you say you attended a traditional church during this time, was it a Bible teaching church? I grew up in a denominational church, that did not teach the Bible. I learned Bible stories in my elementary years.When I look back on those years we even were taken out of school during the week; Catholics and Protestants and went in a bus to get some kind of religious training. It’s amazing how things have changed. The church I attended before the Jesus Movement was a liturgical church, common book of prayer with a lot of ritual.

    • Thank God the Jesus movement died.
      Why?
      It took a vulnerable people and stole their last dime and hope.

    • hi kitti

      I went to a denominational church that presented 2 readings a week, then the sermon was on that. I then attended Sunday school.

      I also attended the church school for high school, and had a “religion class” in with my curriculum.

      So, in a way, I got something from all of it. But I found there were portions of the bible that were never taught, so I embarked out on my own from there.

  53. I think I demonstrated by the above videos it didn’t die. I’m planning on volunteering for the first time at the Harvest Crusade August 4-6 at Angel Stadium. It was, it is and will continue to be a powerful worldwide reaching movement of God in these last days.

    http://www.harvest.org/

  54. It’s too bad you had something negative to say about the Jesus Movement. A lot of people got saved and still are. You didn’t even comment on the song I said made me think of you. (Larry Norman’s UFO SONG) It wasn’t a negative comment either. Did you listen to it? Obviously not.

    • Sorry Kitti … never meant to be offensive.

      The past is the past … It’s like the trickle which started the river.
      I attended Jesus 1978 in Mercer, Penn. It was a great time.
      We ran out of ice and it was hot.
      Over 100,000 thousands in a farmers’ field.
      Great speakers and musicians. Everyone had their tent and the richer had their home on wheels.
      Nevertheless we as a people were all happy and in a trance like state. We ate together, we sang together, we danced together, we got baptized together, we clapped together all in all it was a good time.
      Everyone had their bumper stickers ‘Jesus saves’. And He does.
      It was a festive time and I am glad I was part of it.

      But from there, after a five day festival everyone went back to whatever.
      The rest of the road required something else.
      I have loved those days as I have loved my youth.
      But we have grown up since … and my sandals have worn out.
      My daughter who then slept with me is now 40 years old.

      All I meant to say Kitti is thank God those days have gone by.
      We are now swimming in an ocean …
      There was a reason for the kindle which was fired up …
      Many ambers just plainly burned out.

      Some of us were fanned with a wind which dies not.
      Wind only makes the trunk stronger.

      It’s too bad you viewed what I said as negative.
      It was not intended as such.

      Here let me explain further.
      It was a dream, I stood by the river with my white towel.
      The river was murky and muddy … yet I saw people standing in the middle of it.
      I wondered why they were there …
      Now and then the current would pick up a body of a woman , a child or a man and carry it in its flow.
      I watched where they would end up.
      Unseen by those standing in the river was a wheel like turbine downstream that was waiting to tare them up in pieces.
      And as I watched I saw a man who truly loved the people stuck in the river and he would go and fetch the one who just was stolen by the current and bring them back with the others in the muddy waters.
      But they all stayed in the muddy waters.
      Then I noticed someone beside me on the shore.
      He asked me why was I planning to wash my body in those muddy waters and dry it with the clean and bright towel he had provided for me.

      See how I view things my dear Kitti. :)

  55. You explained yourself, thank you. For me the Jesus Movement is where I discovered “My First Love” this verse comes to mind: Revelation 2:4-5 But I have this against you,that you have left your first love, Remember therefore from where you have fallen and repent and do the deeds you did at first, or else I am coming to you, and will remove your lampstand out of its place. Whenever I start to become lukewarm ect I try to remember those days when it wss fresh, exciting, everyone was sharing the Gospel, street witnessing, because we really believed Jesus was coming at any momemnt.Chuck Smith is the only pastor I know that is always saying “Jesus is Comintg” constantly. The movie “Like a Thief in the Night” came out. I think I am still supposed to live my life like that: another scripture comes to mine: John 3:1 it has not been revealed as yet what we shall be like, but we know that when he shall be revealed we shall be like him, because we shall see him as He is. And everyone who has this hope fixed on him, purifies himself just as he is pure. That is what the Jesus movement represents for me; The Revelation that Jesus is coming back, could come at anytime and that I need to be ready. I guess that’s why I’m always interested in prophecy. I guess for others it was a shallow experience that fell on shallow ground and did not last. I get really sad when I hear people criticise it. There’s no gimmick really to it. The emphasis is on the Bible; verse by verse, chapter by chapter.

    • P.S. I did listen to the song. Thanks!
      Prophecy is the Spirit of Christ.
      As He was rejected then … He is still rejected now.

      A Word from God is never a mile long.
      One Word is all He needs because of the Power of His Spirit in that One Word.
      So many lusts after prophecy to dress their flesh.
      That is not the Way of The Holy.

  56. http://www.larrynorman.com/

  57. Did you know Randy Stonehill and Keith Green are Jewish? I didn’t know that. I was listening to this interview of Larry Norman. I thought I knew everyone who was Jewish. What a crack up!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randy_Stonehill
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Green

  58. Last Days Ministries > Keith Green
    So You Wanna Be A Rock Star

    by Keith Green

    For as long as be could remember, Keith Green’s greatest dream was to be a musical success. After be gave his life to Jesus, however, he felt the need to surrender those dreams and aspirations by laying down his music…perhaps never to perform publicly again.
    Ironically, when sometime later he felt God release him to pick up his music again, he soon had a recording contract and his first album soared straight to the top of the Contemporary Christian Music charts.
    The following message was birthed out of Keith’s encounters with those who approached him, usually after a concert, to ask how they too could “make it big” in Christian music.

    Today, so many people ask me if I can tell them how they can start or enter into a music ministry. At concerts I get countless questions about this, and I also get lots of letters and even some long-distance phone calls from many people who feel they are only “called” into the music “ministry.” One day I began to ask myself why so few have ever asked me how to become a missionary, or even a local street preacher, or how to disciple a new believer. It seems everyone would prefer the “bright lights” of what they think a music ministry would be, rather than the mud and obscurity of the mission field, or the streets of the ghetto, or even the true spiritual sweetness of just being a nobody whom the Lord uses mightily in small “everyday” ways.
    Are You Willing?

    My answer to their question is almost always the same. “Are you willing to never play music again? Are you willing to be a nothing? Are you willing to go anywhere and do anything for Christ? Are you willing to stay right where you are and let the Lord do great things through you, though no one may seem to notice at all?” They all seem to answer each of these questions with a quick “yes!” But I really doubt if they know what their answer entails.
    Star Struck

    My dearest family in Jesus…why are we so star struck? Why do we idolize Christian singers and speakers? We go from glorifying musicians in the world, to glorifying Christian musicians. It’s all idolatry! Can’t you see that? It’s true that there are many men and women of God who are greatly anointed to call down the Spirit of God on His people and the unsaved. But Satan is getting a great victory as we seem to worship these ministers on tapes and records, and clamor to get their autographs in churches and concert halls from coast to coast.

    Can’t you see that you are hurting these ministers? They try desperately to tell you that they don’t deserve to be praised, and because of this you squeal with delight and praise them all the more. You’re smothering them, making it almost impossible for them to see that it’s really Jesus. They keep telling themselves that, but you keep telling them it’s really them, crushing their humility and grieving the Spirit that is trying to keep their eyes on Jesus.

    Ultimately, what we idolize we ourselves desire to become, sometimes with our whole heart. So a lot of people who want to become just like their favorite Gospel singer or minister, seek after it with the same fervor that the Lord demands we seek after Him! And again, we insult the Spirit of Grace and try to make a place for ourselves, rather than a place for Jesus.
    A Thankless Job

    How come no one idolizes or praises the missionaries who give up everything and live in poverty, endangering their lives and families with every danger that the “American dream” has almost completely eliminated? How come no one lifts up and exalts the ghetto and prison ministers who can never take up an offering, because if they did they would either laugh or cry at what they’d receive?
    How come?

    Because (1) we’re taught from very early on that comfort is our goal and security… and (2) that we should always seek for a lot of people to like us. Who lives less comfortably and has had less friends and supporters than the selfless missionaries who have suffered untimely, premature deaths trying to conquer souls and nations for the whole glory of God? Do you really believe we’re living in the very last times? Then why do you spend more money on Gospel records and concerts than you give to organizations that feed the poor, or to missionaries out in the field?

    There are ministries all over the world where “penniless” people are being saved and transformed. They are broken people who have promise and qualities, but just need someone to bring them God’s light during the times when their lives seem so completely hopeless.

    I repent of ever having recorded one single song, and ever having performed one concert, if my music, and more importantly, my life has not provoked you into Godly jealousy (Romans 11:11) or to sell out more completely to Jesus!

    Quit trying to make “gods” out of music ministers, and quit desiring to become like them. The Lord commands you, “Deny yourself take up your cross daily, and follow me” (Luke 9:23). My piano is not my cross, it is my tool. I’d never play it again if God would show me a more effective tool in my life for proclaiming His Gospel.[God gives us each our own unique tools. But we may never use them if we become more interested in someone else's. Seek God, ask Him for His plan for ministry (true, God glorifying ministry) in your life.]
    Conclusion

    To finish, let me say that the only music minister to whom the Lord will say, “Well done, thy good and faithful servant,” is the one whose life proves what their lyrics are saying, and to whom music is the least important part of their life. Glorifying the only worthy One has to be a minister’s most important goal!

    Let’s all repent of the idolatry in our hearts and our desires for a comfortable, rewarding life when, really, the Bible tells us we are just passing through as strangers and pilgrims in this world (Hebrews 11:13), for our reward is in heaven. Let’s not forget that our due service to the Lord is “… not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake”(Phil. 1:29).

    Amen. Let us die graciously together and endure to the end like brave soldiers who give their lives, without hesitation, for our noble and glorious King of Light.

  59. To the author of this piece: first off, EXCELLENT work! Secondly, would you please be so kind to email me at dahorton@kbckc.org

    I’m a Doctoral student who is considering on writing my Dissertation on the Jesus Movement and its effects (or lack thereof) 40 years later.

    Blessings!

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