Will Messiah come this next Jubilee Year?

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Between Mayan prophecies, predictions that seem reasonable from solar cycle peaks, Bible prophecy in general, and the Seiner prophecy, it seems like the time of wrath would start around 2011, and end in 2015, with the return of Jesus. Can this be true?

-***note; take all this as an estimate.  I first came up with 2018, then back tracked when I saw someone else’s math, but I am not sure.  In the way things can be viewed, I can see a 3 year difference in the outcome, 2018 vs 2015.  Just be prepared. I might be wrong, but I think things will start changing very soon.

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Reference Seiner prophecy- predicted Messiah would come in Jubilee year:

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/siener-van-rensburg-visions-of-the-future/

Different calculations for current solar cycle 24 (2008-2019), indicating more turmoil- peak in late 2011 or mid 2012:

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/solar-cycle-24-and-more-earth-changes/

http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/solar-cycle-24-and-the-economy/

hebrew-calendar

Calculating elapsed years to determine the right year in the Jubilee cycle using Hebrew calendar – this is an ESTIMATE

Current year on Jewish calendar September 2008- September 2009: 5769

Year temple was destroyed – first year of 7 year cycle: 3829

Years elapsed: 5769-3829 = 1941

Last Jubilee year on calendar – but not observed currently since Israel is still not all returned to land.

1941 elapsed years / 50 =~38.8 , or

really 1941 / 49 since in cycles of 7, not 50 = 39.6

50 x 38 =~ 1900 elapsed years

1941 current elapsed years – 1900 elapsed years = about 41 years ago would have been the last Jubilee if all Israel had returned home. This means there will be another Jubilee in about 9 years, at the end of solar cycle 24, beginning of solar cycle 25 ( est. years 2017-2018 solar calendar) . This is an estimate, meaning that the end of the next set of 7 years should be the official Jubilee year.

Converting to solar calendar

Now: September 2008 – September 2009 = first year of next 7 years, and next solar cycle of 11 years.

So 41 years already into the jubilee cycle (from above calculations), + 9 years from now =

September 2017 – September 2018 next year of Jubilee estimated.

However, since this year is 5769, which is a one (1) year, the next (1) year should be in 5776, which is Fall 2015-Fall 2016.

** I may be off by one year here, since one Hebrew year overlaps one solar year.

this is another link about this, some of the conclusions are different.:

http://twelvebooks.wordpress.com/2008/11/18/nov-18-2008dec-20-battle-of-gog-and-magog-wwiii-sudden-destruction-and-the-rapture/

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Messiah

If Messiah would come to establish peace in September 2015-16, then 7 years before that is the tribulation/wrath period. This means the 7 year period would start in September 2008-2009.

Since 2015-16 (Messiah)

– 7 =

2008-09 ( 7 year tribulation/wrath) starts

HOWEVER, I believe that the term tribulation is misused.  I believe that there will be a time of trouble that Jesus called the tribulation that the Christians will go through (seals 1-5), then the wrath follows. I do not think the time of wrath is 7 years but maybe half of that time.  So I see possibly 3 1/2 years of tribulation or less, the rapture, and then 3/12 years or more of wrath.  The rapture would occur about mid 2012, my guess.

Suggestion

This is all calculations. So remember that. The Jubilee calculation agrees with what I see in the solar cycle predictions. It also agrees with the Mayan calendar of 2012, since September 2011 – September 2012 is the first year of the wrath period.

Money, property, family and friends:

a. work to witness to family and friends to assure salvation, so they will leave with you, if there is a rapture in 2011.

b. prepare to leave what you have behind to Israel, so the heathen world will not confiscate your stuff and use it for evil.

c. make sure your own heart is pure and righteous before God

If I am wrong, then fine, we have more time.

If I am right, we have very little time left.

*** assurance to all McCain/Palin supporters. If this is true, then the election results make more sense. Obama would have to win, to preside over the country as the believers, including McCain/Palin, would leave, in a pre-wrath rapture. Only the unbelievers and the untested Christians would be left behind with Obama.

Only time will tell if I am right or not.

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See also Jesus, the Hallel, and the 4 day gap in prophecy Click here for more

*** Note:  math corrected on 11/20/08



319 Responses to “Will Messiah come this next Jubilee Year?”

  1. [...] would start around 2011, and end in 2018, with the return of Jesus. Can this be true? Click here for [...]

  2. Marianne,
    The Scripture says that whoever calls on the Name of the Lord shall be saved–
    Of course, only God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ knows the day/hour of the return of Jesus Christ.
    However, it is true that He has everyting under His control and although we may not understand fully His Mighty Plan as it unfolds, it is important that we completely trust in Him for guidance and security.
    In Jesus Christ my Lord,
    Veda

  3. Hi
    Yes, Veda, ” Whichever man calls on the Lord and doesn’t have the ” mark of the Beast” will be saved.
    This is becoming harder and harder as the apostate church is already in control of Christian community.
    We are already practicing some other religion in the name of Christ
    Blessings
    B

  4. Hi Bee,

    I think your comparisons earlier were true. Obama land will end up like Mandela land. Obama land people, and others, will have the mark of the beast.

    Wow, I cannot believe it is almost time.

    blessings
    marianne

  5. I know , I’m even wondering if mandela was not the door opener for Obama, rather than Obama being the door opener for someone else.
    although according to Siener, the man that sells the mark of the beast stands up in europe and not America???
    Not sure here.
    Blessings

  6. Hi Bee,

    Remember they are working on a one world government here, so a man could be from one continent, and rule from Europe from his central headquarters.

    I still think the Antichrist is a Muslim, and will come from the “middle east – far east” part of the world. But he will need people already in place that are deluded, and think that Islam is ok. Mandela and Obama comply with this, and will cooperate with the Antichrist.

    Eventually, all countries will need some kind of godless, Islam compatible leader.

    blessings
    marianne

  7. Mmmm, Ok that makes sense !
    thanks
    B

  8. I have to admit, a the entire “Obama as the Antichrist” hype garners some kind of attention.

    However, I’d like to point out that Christ himself said no one knows the hour of his coming except for God. =) Therefore, all attempts to pinpoint His Son’s return are in vain. I would caution against using various calenders and mathematical efforts to do so, as they are unsubstantiated and can lead to widespread speculation; rather, as Christians, we should focus on our mission that GOD has given us – to spread the redeeming word of Christ. I believe that as Christians, we as a whole have isolated ourselves from the world. While we definitely are called to not be friends of the world, we do in fact live IN the world, and our resistance as a whole to actively participate in world events could be part of the current moral decline.

    As an ending note, I think taking into account the words of seers and the Mayan calender to reinforce the idea that the “End Times” are coming is misaligned with Scripture. God warns us against such things as sorcery and divination. Please do not read my comments as derogatory. I have just been reading a lot of things that I feel distract us from our purpose here on Earth.

    Just food for thought.

    • Yes, you are right about our mission. However it’s a fact that all unbelivers are “Antichrists” we must not lose our focus! Everything that happens pertaining to “One World Government” is falling into place daily…we can see and hear the signs …”as it was in the days of Noah”! Christmas as the world knows it focuses on “The Baby Jesus”…He’s not a Baby any longer and soon to return Lord and King! gale02316@yahoo.com

  9. I like how Perry Stone explains the rapture- He describes it as a Jewish Wedding- Which is actually what Jesus describes it as as well in the Bible! In a traditional Jewish Wedding the groom takes his bride to His Fathers House for 7 days! (Isn’t the tribulation supposed to be 7 years?)

    You can check out Perry Stone’s website- http://www.voe.org He explains the Jewish wedding and how it relates to the rapture or “catching away” of the BRIDE OF CHRIST! :)

    -Catrina-

  10. For A Christian: I agree with you that our MAIN focus as followers of Christ should be soul-winning and bringing the lost sheep to The Shepard- Our Lord Jesus Christ…

    I also believe that it’s OK to be EXCITED about the fact that we are most likely the generation to be going home wih Jesus! But we definetely need to REACH out to as many others as possible… There are a lot of lost souls out there and we are called to live out His Love!

  11. Hi Catrina,

    I agree. We seem to have a lot of work to do in the time ahead of us.

    blessings
    marianne

  12. Surely we don’t know the date of Christ’s return, but we should as christians be able to identify the “season of His coming”.
    Also, some preachers hold to the belief that the signs of His coming refer to when Christ returns to rule and reign for a thousand years. They say that the signs of Christ’s coming refer to that particularly and that the rapture of the church will occur independant of these signs seven years prior to Christ’s return to earth. (Jack and Rexella Van Impee)
    Any comments?

  13. Hi Mr. T

    It seems like we are in the season. God follows his own calendar and keeps his own feast days and holidays. So picking a feast day to return would make sense.

    this is what I think too:
    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/jesus-the-hallel-and-the-4-day-gap-in-prophecy/

    blessings
    marianne

  14. There may be another reason for the return of Jesus Christ around 2018. In the sermon in my church today the preacher spoke about God having specific time periods, like the 70 year captivity in Babylon. The temple was destroyed in 70ad. Israel was established in 1948ad. Although the Jews were back in Israel, they were not free yet. If there were another 70 year period this would end in 2018ad and the captivity truly would end.
    Just a speculation.

  15. Hi GYOD

    I guess there are different ways to look at this. We keep coming up with the same conclusions! :)

    blessings
    marianne

  16. The generation that would see all revealed, including the 2nd Advent, began in June, 1967, with the liberation of Jerusalem by Israel in the Six Day War. Thus, the Rapture will be on the Feast of Trumpets in September, 2011. World War III will follow in October, 2011, with the invasion of Israel by Russia and her allies of Iran, Saudi Arabia, Libya and Turkey as described in Ezekiel 38 and 39. Russia will nuke America with a first strike during this time (Ezk. 39:6-7). Israel will retaliate by nuking Mecca, Medina and Damascus upon being attacked. The Dome of the Rock will also be destroyed during this invasion by a Scud Missile or some other type of explosive. The religion of Islam will cease to exist with the destruction of its three holy sites thus setting up the one world religion described in the Book of Revelation. World War III will probably last no longer than ten days.

    From October, 2011, to May, 2012, Israel will be burying dead invaders and clearing Mount Moriah for the building of a new temple to worship in. America will be in shambles and no longer a major player on the world scene. God’s judgment upon America will be complete at this time for her endorsing abortion, homosexuality and secularism. The European Union will fill the world wide power vacuum caused by the destruction of both Russia and America.

    The President of the European Union, Romano Prodi, two time ex-Prime Minister of Italy, will agree to defend Israel from all future attacks from any enemy by signing a seven year Defense Treaty with the political leaders of Israel in May, 2012. The day this treaty is signed will begin the 2520 days that precede the 2nd Advent of the Lord Jesus. This period of time is commonly known as the Seven Years of Tribulation. Needless to say, Romano Prodi is the infamous Antichrist.

    The Lord Jesus will return to planet Earth with His 2nd Advent on the Feast of a Day of Atonement in October, 2017. To fulfill the specified number of 2520 days of the treaty signed in May, 2012, God is going to shorten the days during the seven year treaty by increasing the rotation of planet Earth from a 24 hour rotation to a 16 hour rotation (Mt. 24:22; Mk. 13:20). The 2nd Advent of the Lord Jesus will fulfill the prophetic significance of the Feast of a Day of Atonement and the Times of the Gentiles and the Year of the Jubilee. The first 75 days after His 2nd Advent will be spent judging the 2 1/2 billion people who physically survived the tribulation years as to whether they became Christians [sheep] or non-Christians [goats] after the Rapture and during the tribulation years (Mt. 25:31-46).

    Anyone interested in the detailed arguments and Scripture verses to support this scenario is welcomed to visit my site at http://www.endtimewarnings.net where you can read A BIBLICAL VIEW OF THE FUTURE. What I have just given here is a summary from it for the casual reader.

    What few Christians realize is that we are supposed to know the day and the hour of the Rapture according to the apostle Paul (1 Th. 5:4). My reasons for saying this highly controversial statement can be found in the above mentioned work. Also, the Church was NEVER to look forward to the 2nd Advent but to always look forward to the Rapture – the Blessed Hope.

    This is, without a doubt, the most exciting time to ever be alive since the creation of mankind. If – you are a true Christian. Maranatha!

    • If the tribulation began on Tuesday, September 20, 2011, ***exactly*** 3.5 years later (to the day) there will be a total solar eclipse on Friday, March 20, 2015. This of course would also be the day of the abomination of desolation.

      • Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.

    • For the days to be shortened, the Lunar months must decrease, so perhaps an asteroid impact on the moon. 19.5 day orbit would do it and comply with God’s reconning with dates.

    • Robert E and others: Your predictions have come and gone. Have you wondered why? Perhaps your belief in a pre-trib rapture has something to do with the messed up eschatology most of you have. Apparently, when Yeshua said “the last trump” you misread, or missed reading that verse…something???? 1 Cor. 15:52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. See this verse is speaking not of a pre-trib rapture but of the rapture at what…”the last trumpet” This same verse is also talking about the resurrection of the dead and the resurrection does not occur until the last trumpet. John 6:40, 44, 54 and John 12:48. Rev. 20:11-15 describes the resurrection of the dead for judgement. Now there are some who believe in 2 resurrections (Rev. 20:5) but even if you hold to 2 resurrection theory then it is still not until after the tribulation for those that are saved and will reign with Christ during the 1,000 year reign. So you see no pre-trib rapture can be found and supported in scripture. Sorry to tell all you pre-tribbers the bad news that you will be here for the tribulation. Don’t get overly discouraged though, Elohim always protects and has a way of “removing” the elect from His
      Wrath just like He did with Noah.

      Peace Brothers and Sisters

      • hi Stacy

        You will find a mixed group of thinkers here. Some are pre-trib. I personally have my own view, which is outlined in the orange text above.

        I believe the Christians will be here for the 3/12 years of Jacob’s trouble, the Lord will return for all gentile and jewish believers at one rapture, and then the wrath begins, which is trumpets and vials. My post is mostly about the year something might start, not finish, not whether or not it occurs in a pre-trib, mid trib or post trib manner.

        Considering what is to happen next in the world, we should all be gone by now if there was a pre-trib rapture. So you have me in agreement with you, at least.

        There are others on this site that are not pre-trib also. I have a open view on what might happen, and just wait and see attitude. If I am here, then I am here. If I am gone, then that is better, since what is coming is something I do not want to think about, but I still have to plan for.

        • Hi,
          It is mid-trib, that’s what the prophets have been shown. 31/2 years tribulation and then the wrath for the remaining 31/2 years. Israel will celebrate its last Jubilee before the 2nd coming. The 7 year peace accord “Land for Peace” will concluded during the next term of the US Presidency. America will betray Israel when Israel turns to it for support against pressure to agree to the peace accord. America will face judgement soon after that for this. When Israel surrenders its occupied land, its enemies are now within striking range. 2/3rds of Israel would be destroyed at the end of the 7 years -the Chief Prince of Israel, Michael and his angels who have been guarding Israel will step back from proctecting Israel to let prophecy be fulfilled. It is then the remnant of the Israelites will call upon God…only then will Jesus come and step foot on Mt Olives.

          The peace accord could take off anytime from 2013 to 2017 or even towards the very end of the term of the US Presidency. The restrainer (Holy Spirit) will be taken away and so will be those who are ready for the rapture. This will be 31/2 years into the tribulation. Our spiritual garments have to be spotless from lust, greed, unforgiveness etc. Remember all the ten were virigins…spiritually consecrated to God but hmm only 5 were eagerly awaiting…the other 5????
          God Bless.

          Tom (previoulsy Pre-Trib)

          • Tom

            What makes you think 2/3 of Israel will be destroyed? what scripture?

            • Dear Marianne, Please refer to Zechariah 13:8-9. In the whole land, “declares the Lord, “two thirds will be struck down and perish; yet one third will be left in it. This third will I bring into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call my name and I will answer them; I will say, “They are my people,” and they will say, “The Lord is our God”. (NIV)

          • America’s Judgement thus also lends support to the Duduman prophecies that America is indeed the Babylon that will fall. However, America is not the harlot who is drunk with the blood of saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus…this could only refer to the Vatican…but I have yet to confirm this.

            • i do not see the blood of the saints spilling yet in america…..that could be in the future….but so far, other candidates like the vatican and islam have done more damage than america

      • Amein!! Amein!! I was so glad to see someone has actually read and understands that Yahuweh’s Right Hand is not shortened during the Tribulation and that He will protect us as He carries us to the wilderness to deal calmly with us as He protects us. This is the comparison to the Jewish Betrothal! I assure everyone that the Elohim YHWH will not be in the mood for a wedding feast or party due to Him having to pull a global Sedom and Amorah upon what He Created in His Image!! As far as the day and hour of His Return, we are children of the day and not children of darkness; therefore, we will know the season if we are walking out His Feasts Days with YaHuShuA HaMoshiach being the Focus/Goal! A Great falling away will occur when many realize that there is a Resurrection, not a rapture at the Last Shofar Blast! People need to really read and Study the Scriptures in Spirit and Truth! Shalom!!

        • Dear Suzanne,I was almost disappointed when I read the previous remarks. I was thinking why do we christians just remember jashua’s words about His second coming when he said that day only my father knows. Then I saw your remark and got courage. Yes, everybody, let us not make guesses who will antichrist be or when he will be presented.let’s concentrate on studying the word, and filling our lamps with lots of oil .Let us be ready to meet the Lord any time he comes.thank you all and God bless you all shalom
          Araxi

  17. Hi Robert,

    Your comments about the timing seem to match up with what I calculated. You start at 1967, and I start at 1948, and seem to end up with the same final year, +/- a year. I have to really focus on using the Jewish calendar, and converting it to the solar calendar. I do have some concerns that America may have serious troubles before the 2011 date, but I hope I am wrong about that, which gives us at least a year or two left.

    blessings
    marianne

  18. Nice website,
    Just change the spelling of apostasy on the right hand column

  19. Hi N Warner

    Thank you. I have been meaning to get to that misspelling. :)

    blessings
    marianne

  20. Marianne,

    You may have seen the article a few months ago about Tetrads (a series of 4 very rare eclipses that will fall on Jewish Holy days in 2014 and 2015

    As you may be aware it is mentioned in the Bible that The sun will be darkened and the moon become like blood (these are references to eclipses)

    Coming Lunar Eclipses:
    Passover 2014
    Tabernacles 2014
    Passover 2015
    Tabernacles 2015 and
    Coming Solar Eclipse
    on Trumpets 2015.

    You can verify this at the NASA Eclipse website and A Jewish Calendar.

    Here’s a website that shows you how it all works out:
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=63076

    http://harvestreno.org/messageVideo.asp?id=134&quality=medium

    http://harvestreno.org/gallery.asp?area=fullGallery&galleryID=12&galleryName=Signs%20in%20the%20Heavens&iefix=93703861

    Disclaimer: The Harvest Church website video has a Pre-Trib belief which would have meant Christ would have raptured the church on Oct 30 2008. It also means that the 7 year peace agreement would have needed to start on Oct 30 2008 – to my knowledge that has not occurred.
    (And the Harvest Church is still here)
    But the fact that Eclipses fall on God’s Holy days seems very significant. Will Something of significance occur during that period?

  21. hi showmetheonetruegod

    I do believe God is using nature to confirm his prophecies. I am aware of the eclipses you mention, and they may prove to be significant. We will wait and see. This is an exciting time for believers.

    Here are some things I have written:

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/does-solar-cycle-25-predict-good-weather-for-the-future-reign-of-the-messiah/

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-of-the-sun-and-moon-before-the-day-of-the-lord/

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-in-the-stars-before-the-day-of-the-lord/

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/sun-goes-down-at-noon/

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/solar-cycle-24-and-more-earth-changes/

    blessings
    marianne

  22. You are very close. I hope with this, your course of life will change, to be better prepared. Please take a look at the site, it will give you a clear timeline. God Bless.

  23. Hi Cretian,

    I looked at your chart. I get 2018 sometimes also, depending on the method. The jubilee year method throws me off some – by about 3 years.

    I am not sure about the exactness of the current calendar. The solar (july 11) and lunar (dec 21) total eclipse signs for 2010, calculation of one generation (age varies from 40-70) from 1948, and from 1967, the peak of the solar cycle, all seem to point to 2018 as the 2nd return, with 2011 as the beginning of the 7 years.

    Also, the Lord told me I would not be here for my retirement years. I would retire with the State in Oct 2010, Federal in 2017. So this means I am gone before one of those dates.

    one way or the other, our time is just about up, I think. Bible study of prophecy is really fun, especially if we belong to the Lord.

    Where do you see a rapture event in your time line, or do you see it at the end in 2018?

    blessings
    marianne

  24. This may mean nothing. I am a believer in the Lord Jesus. A few weeks ago I had the strangest dream (at that time I did not know this site existed). I could see in a cave and it had torches and there were 2 keys in the cave on a stand. The Sphynx raised its head to the sky and a calendar started at 2011 and started to tear off pages rapidly until 2086 if I remember there were other pieces . Someone was also speaking in the dream. It may not relate however, it has some reference to Egypt.

  25. Hi John,

    Well, things are getting more tense around the world, even from a secular perspective. Terrorism, possible war with Iran, Russian threats, etc. The Sphynx may represent the middle east to you. Just watch that area and see what develops. Right now, the Gaza situation affects Egypt and its borders. Also, from what I can tell, the antichrist may have issues with Egypt in the future.

    blessings
    marianne

  26. Hi Marianne,

    I am catching up on all your articles and I just got to this one. I am so glad to see that you use the Jewish calendar and then convert to the other. G-d definitely uses His timetable and His Feasts are there for a reason, one of which is as our timetable and throughout our history He has repeatedly used specific dates (other than the Feast days) to work. Example, Tisha B’Av both temples were destroyed, and edict of expulsion of Jews from Spain 1492, when Columbus sailed. I know he can use any day He wants to work His plan…He is G-d! , but He is a G-d of order!

    One of the things I wanted to comment on as to knowing the times and the seasons, but not the day or the hour, as to the L-rd’s return, is this: Personally I believe we will be caught up on Yom Teruah, Feast of Trumpets, which as you know, precedes Yom Kippur. And the reason that we know the time and the season is that it falls every year around the same time, but the day changes (Jewish calendar compared to Gregorian) and then we don’t blow the trumpet until the moon arises in the sky, different time of day depending where you are on the planet!

    It may seem (even actually be) an over simplified way of looking at it, and I know that with modern technology and all we can predict the exact times of sunsets and moon risings, but the times are in G-d’s hands and I have always found that for me, faith is easier to exercise if I just take G-d at His word. He commanded us to keep our Feast Days and so far all of our redemption has centered around them…so I trust Him to continue to do so! I don’t know which Yom Teruah He is going to call us home, but I know that my people who don’t know Yeshua as Messiah yet are looking for Moshiach to come very soon, and they are beginning to realize that only G-d can help them now, as it seems the whole world is against them. We have experienced Anti-Semitic demonstrations out here in Calif. that I never thought I would see in America!
    Sorry for going on so long! I am just glad to find a site that is sensitive and in tune to G-d’s Word from a Jewish perspective,
    G-d bless ,
    Trish

  27. Hi trish,

    I agree with you about the feast of trumpets. It also agrees with the 6th seal, where the sun darkens and the moon is like blood. “Blood moons” typically occur in the fall of the year.

    Here is some other thoughts I have about the sequence:
    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/jesus-the-hallel-and-the-4-day-gap-in-prophecy/

    baruch haba! :)
    marianne

  28. Dear Believers in Messiah,

    Please also keep in heart mind and soul that 800 + years before Messiah even came in the form of GOD and humanity that the prophet Isiah said and wrote that “Today is the day of salvation.” We ALL must be prepared at ALL times <lest we suffer the fates of the five foolish virgins and get locked outside.

    kevin

  29. Dear Believers,

    Please forgive me for misspelling the name of the great old testament prophet Isaiah. I had just submitted an email a few minutes before writing this one, after realizing that I had made an error. It just goes to show, perhaps indirectly as opposed to accidently, that one cannot read GOD’s word enough!!

    ALL be blessed in the name
    of the FATHER MESSIAH and the HOLY SPIRIT

    kevin

  30. Hi Kevin

    What you say is true. Each generation has had to deal with their own “day of salvation,” even though/if the Messiah had not come yet. Each individual who has died in faith, is still assured eternal life. We may also face our own personal tribulation, whether we are here in person, or not, for the Great Tribulation that is predicted. We should all be prepared, as the wise virgins, who kept their lamps full of oil.

    blessings
    marianne

  31. imam kabir shreen @ facebook

  32. I believe a Jubilee of years is 50 years. The last, the 50th year being the Year of Jubilee. I believe the last year of Jubilee was in 1967 add 50 years and you come to 2017, the return of Christ. Not certain if you allow other websites on yours, pardon if I am wrong to add mine, http://www.spiritwars.net. for my timing of the rapture and the 70th Week of Daniel. I pray you prayerfully consider these scriptures. May all be done according to His perfect will. We all sincerely desire to get it right!
    Prepare for persecution saints!
    Mary Kay Mason

    • Hi Mary Kay,

      Yes, you can put your website link on here. Your date seems to confirm my calculations. Maybe it will be 2017.

      I definitely think 2010 will be the start of something significant.

      I have seen some people predict this year, 2009, but it did not feel right to me. The sky is blue, the sun is out, and the grass is green. It is too perfect now to be the start of trouble. The world will have to change radically in the next 12-18 months for 2010 to start the tribulation. The stage is set. We just have to wait and see if the players will move.

      I think it is amazing that so many people I have met now are tuning into the same time frame and years for things to start. The Holy Spirit is really working among us.

      God bless you on your site.

  33. Caution: “know man knows the day or the hour” of his return. So why are so many trying to set dates?
    I think many are mistaken if they believe that the “Church” will go through any part of the Tribulation. In Mary Kay Mason’s website she writes: “The pre-trib view is that Christ leaves Heaven and comes a second time for the church, and then a third coming for the great battle of Armageddon. But clearly the Bible never mentions a third coming.” THIS IS INCORRECT. The pre-tribulation view never includes a Third Coming! The pre-trib view: Christ comes in the clouds for his bride, takes “her” to heaven for the marriage supper, whilst Tribulation is happening on the earth for a period of 7 years. The tribulation period ends when Christ “Glorious Appears” with His Bride to establish His Millennial Kingdom. This is referred to as the SECOND COMING. During the first coming, our Lord was mocked, rejected and abused which lead to His crucifixion. His second coming will reveal Him as the Glorious King.

    • Hi Ian

      I like to try to figure out dates, just for fun and personal interest. I like a puzzle to be solved. But I am not bound by what I calculate. I realize it is only a guess or calculation, or opinion.

  34. Dear Ian,

    I don’t see where anyone here is claiming a day or hour, do you?

    Hmmm, you’re making my point Ian. True, there is no third coming. It a the pre-trib rapture scenario that makes a third coming necessary. As He would “come” in the clouds for believers, that would be a second coming and then again at the end of time for the great war, that would be the third time He comes.

    5 points

    In Acts 2:34, it reads, “For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, until I make thy foes thy footstool.” This is referring to the final battle when God puts Satan under Yeshua’s feet at the end of the tribulation. If Yeshua leaves heaven to Earth’s clouds at a pre-trib rapture He can not be sitting at the Father’s right hand as it says “until” He makes Yeshua’s foes His footstool, can He?”

    point 2
    1 Corn 15:51-53 says, “Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. For this perishable must put on the imperishable, and this mortal must put on immortality.” When is the last trumpet?

    point 3
    II Thess.2: 1-4, “Now We beseech you brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto Him let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshiped; so that he as sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.” Again the “coming of our Lord” is tied to “our gathering together unto Him.” Yeshua says that “that day will not come until 2 things happen first. One, the falling away of the Jews into humanism/atheism, and secondly the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition. This occurs 3 1/2 years into the 70th week of Daniel. So the rapture cannot possibly happen until these things occur first,… according to Jesus.

    point 4
    1 Thess. 4:15-17 states, “For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede them which are asleep.” For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.” When’s the coming of the Lord?

    point 5

    Matthew 24:29-31, “Immediately AFTER THE TRIBULATION of that day shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.” Then comes the “Day of the Lord” judgment wrath. Is this not referring to the rapture, AFTER the tribulation of that day?

    Dear Brother, I too was like you believing the lie of Satan that we will escape all persecution. He WANTS you and the church weak, lazy and unprepared. Plese prayerfully consider these verses. We will both know soon, If we’re raptured,I’ll be the first one to say you were right. If I’m right then you will be caught unprepared. Please read Matthew 24. Yeshua warns us so many times, it must not escape our notice.
    Peace.

    Mary Kay Mason http://www.spiritwars.net

  35. Um…The Second “Coming” is to the Earth. In the rapture, the Lord will not come to the Earth. This is more than semantical, if one does not live in preparation for the Rapture, he or she will not go. There wont be a “hey, we’re all here, I was wrong about the Rapture. Those who are wrong about the Rapture, wont go. Maranatha

  36. the anti christ will be a pope. read revalatioons and look at the history of the catholic church.

  37. The antichrist most certainly will NOT be a pope. The Catholic Church is and has been for many years a background player in endtimes. Nowhere in Revelation (no ‘s’) does it say otherwise. Lazy students of prophecy lay the mantle of the AC at the feet of the Pope and name the Roman Catholic Church as Mystery Babylon because the Bible says the woman sits on seven mountains.
    You MUST use the Bible to interpret the Bible. In every instance of scripture when a mountain is used allegorically, as it was throughout ALL of Revelation (check for yourself, nowhere in Revelation is a mountain ever used literally) it’s always in reference to a kingdom. Besides, even if it was literal, there are too many places that sit on seven mountains to name Rome only (San Francisco, Worcester Massachusetts, Mecca and a few other places fit the bill).
    Secondly, any end times assessment that doesn’t take into account the role of Islam is woefully incomplete. When the pope himself makes obeisance to Islam. the RCC’s standing as the endtimes juggernaut falls to pieces. Note, ALL of the nations in scripture that were enemies of Israel are Muslim nations; Islam has a larger following than the RCC; Islam as a religion is the only one in the world where its adjutants think they are doing the work of God (per Matthew 24) by killing Jews. Furthermore, the Bible clearly states that the antichrist will be an Assyrian. So that leaves a number of countries that were formerly a part of the Assyrian empire from which to choose your false messiah.
    Ultimately, while it is tantalizing to set targets on people who fit the nefarious bill, we won’t know who he is until the Church is removed from the earth. Let’s make sure we’re saved so we can compare notes from Heaven’s balcony, eh? Maranatha

    • According to Martin Luther, John Calvin and every single Christian reformer of the time, the catholic church was the second beast of revelation and the pope was most certainly the Antichrist. If Protestants are true to their churches and history, every one of them should agree with this – the founding principle of the reformation. It seems that no-one remembers or agrees with this any longer so why not re-merge the protestant churches with the papacy and create one big happy universal church. Oh wait – the one-world church was actually prophesied and the pope has already welcomed 11 protestant churches back to the fold (2002) with only the details remaining to be worked out.
      And if the pope is not the Antichrist, how does he (especially a Muslim) get the “whole world” to worship him and believe he is Jesus? The Catholics already believe it so that would work out great for Satan if he picked a pope. And he can if he wants to no matter what anyone wants to believe.
      By the way, if the Holy roman Empire was not the second beast of Rev. Then why did it last 1260 years (538-1798) exactly as prophesied? If the second beast has only recently arrived then we are all wasting our time here since the second coming won’t be for another millennium or more.
      History has already proved most of revelation.

      • Catholics do not worship the Pope as Jesus. They worship Yeshua and there are many Charmistic Catholics that have been anointed with gifts. Everyone is going to need everyone in the Body of Christ if we are here. Love one another. The Church probably will not be like you think at the end…..Just be ready…Read Daniel 2….

  38. Doesnt matter WHO says something if it doesnt line up with scripture. Calvin and others named the contemporary pope as the antichrist yet we see now how wrong he was. Also, Luther and Calvin differed so dramatically, I think you’d only do well to use them in the same sentence to say how much they didn’t agree on. Further, I’m not a Protestant, lower or capital case. The body of Christ never disappeared even while idiots bickered about meaningless things. All the while the “reformation” was going on, the Church was in operation, uninterrupted. The antichrist must be an assyrian; scripture makes this plain. Unless the RCC elects a middle eastern pope, then this conjecture is as moot as it is flawed. The reason why few contend this point currently is that it is an outmoded idea, one being overshadowed by an increasingly evident force, Islam. ALL of the nations in scripture that God pronounced judgement on are Muslim nations; muslim nations practice beheading as capital punishment per the book of Revelation. Doesnt matter what the catholics believe- we have only to look at current events to conclude that the endtime religion will probably either be Islam or a mixture of Islam and humanism- so pervasive in many churches. By the way…the Roman empire didnt end in 1798 What kind of measurement are you using? If that was accurate, Rome was a superpower when Columbus sailed, when Settlers arrived at Plymouth Rock and when America became a nation. Don’t think you can coddle together disparate events and dates and try to bend scripture to it and no one will notice. Incidentally, Rome expired around 476 A.D. Read Revelation, the beast does not appear until the church is gone from the earth

  39. This video is for you amando … I think the beast has been here for a while now…

  40. On Christ returns Check out http://www.waytozion.com video teachings; watch Daniel’s Timeline [Prophecy]. Also watch Brad Scott video teachings; Prophecy and the Ancient Hebrew Language 1,2,3

  41. Um…I don’t think this hodgepodge of images says much, if anything. The viewer has to draw his or her own conclusion because this menagerie doesn’t form a coherent idea.

    Regardless of what people on youtube say, the Bible says he’s not here yet. The antichrist CANNOT come while the church is on the earth. There have been many forerunners of his; the spirit of antichrist is certainly here, in fact- the man who Satan will possess to wear the mantle of THE antichrist is alive on the earth already. But he is not operating in the capacity of the lawless one yet.

    Pervasive wickedness has been the condition of the world since the fall. Some of the things shown in this video are in fact the manifestation of wickedness but most of it is contrived and clutches at straws.

  42. Wow. I just got a word from the Lord telling me to (or perhaps the church as a group) to celebrate “the sixth feast”. I sensed it had something to do with end times. I just found out through this website that is the Feast of Jubilees. I just read Siener’s prophecy about Jesus coming during the Feast of Jubilees. Something is going to happen then; either the rapture or the actual return of Jesus.

    • Karen

      Exciting times, isn’t it? :)

    • I found this very interesting…”Jesus said in the story, “ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.” (Matthew 25:13)

      Biltz says people need to examine the quote in its proper context.

      “When He says you don’t know the day or the hour, He’s speaking to the foolish virgins, not the wise virgins,” he explained.

      Biltz was also asked about the famous statement in Matthew 24:36 when Jesus was discussing the signs of His “coming, and of the end of the world”: “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” (Matthew 24:36)

      He responded by referring to the annual Feast of Trumpets holiday, saying Israelites never knew the precise moment it began, “because it was based on the sighting of the new moon.”

      “When He (Jesus) says you won’t know the day or the hour, He’s telling you it’s the Feast of Trumpets because that was known as the feast where no one knew the day or the hour that it would begin,” said Biltz. “So it’s kind of like if I told you, ‘I’m not going to tell you when I’m coming, but “Gobble, gobble, gobble,’” [pointing to] Turkey Day.”

      Church stressed despite the information suggesting 2015 could be a pivotal time, “We don’t know that that will be the concluding year of the tribulation period … so we’re not setting a date and saying this is a warning. We’re introducing the possibility of a watch….http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=63076

      This makes sense doesn’t it?

      When reading the above from the link provided, I remembered the following: 2) The night Obama was officially declared the winner of the presidential election in Nov 2008, the HS said “it has begun” and then 2) Shortly after my father died in Feb of this year, 2010, the HS said that I needed to learn/know the Jewish holidays; these were important.

      The HS reminded me AGAIN in March 2010 to learn the Jewish Holidays…just in time for Passover and Unleavened Bread (I am trying but still new to all of this).

      Sooooooo when I read the above concerning Jesus saying when the day and hour is “He responded by referring to the annual Feast of Trumpets holiday, saying Israelites never knew the precise moment it began, “because it was based on the sighting of the new moon.”

      “When He (Jesus) says you won’t know the day or the hour, He’s telling you it’s the Feast of Trumpets because that was known as the feast where no one knew the day or the hour that it would begin,” said Biltz. “So it’s kind of like if I told you, ‘I’m not going to tell you when I’m coming, but “Gobble, gobble, gobble,’” [pointing to] Turkey Day.”

      And….Biltz says, “You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.”

      “If you think that this is a coincidence, I want you to know that it’s time!” exclaimed Prophecy in the News host J.R. Church. “There are no more of these for the rest of the century.”
      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=63076

      • And……in Revelation it says we will meet Him in the air at the LAST TRUMP! Couldn’t this be the LAST “FEAST of TRUMPETS”? In the year 2015, How many “Feast of Trumpets” would that be?….The Seventh Trumpet
        15The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:
        “The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ,
        and he will reign for ever and ever.” 16And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshiped God, 17saying:
        “We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty,
        the One who is and who was,
        because you have taken your great power
        and have begun to reign.
        18The nations were angry; and your wrath has come.
        The time has come for judging the dead,
        and for rewarding your servants the prophets
        and your saints and those who reverence your name,
        both small and great—
        and for destroying those who destroy the earth.”
        19Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a great hailstorm. Rev 11:15

        • Hi Lyndsey,

          maybe the last trump is the last trump sounded on the the Feast of Trumpets

          In outline form, the Jews start the celebration of the fall feasts 30 days prior to Rosh Hashanah which falls on the 1st day of the 7th month. For 30 days the shofar is blown every morning in the Synagogue to remind the people that the holy days are approaching, in order that they may prepare themselves. Their preparation consists of confessing their sins and seeking forgiveness along with a change in life if needed.

          On Rosh Hashanah, a series of 100 trumpet blasts are sounded for a specific reason. They announce the setting up of the eternal court, with the trumpets heralding God as the all-seeing, all-knowing Judge of the Universe.

          It would be the 100th trumpet blast ending the 30 days of preparation and the Days of Awe.

          http://ad2004.com/prophecytruths/Articles/FeastDays/feasts.html

          -

          • Isn’t that incredible! Does the lunar/solar eclipses fall in line with the above in 2015? I am not familiar with the holidays (I feel incredibly blessed that the HS told me to learn them-I didn’t have a clue). After reading your blog site and learning about the holidays and combining it with scripture, it is ALL coming together (like a puzzle) and making SENSE!

            Tell me marianne, the night of Obama’s election in Nov 08…HS told me “it has begun”….what do you think the HS was referring to? the start of the tribulation? the start of something else? OH MY….I just now thought of something….Nov 2008 + 7 years = Nov 2015…..what month are the lunar/solar eclipses in 2015? in allignment with the Feast of Trumpets?….

            • Here we go….”Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light … And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” (Matthew 24:29-30)

              When checking the schedule for solar eclipses, Biltz found two – one on the first day of the Hebrew year and the next on the high holy day of Rosh Hashanah, the first day of the seventh Hebrew month. Both of these take place in the 2014-2015 year…Biltz says, “You have the religious year beginning with the total solar eclipse, two weeks later a total lunar eclipse on Passover, and then the civil year beginning with the solar eclipse followed two weeks later by another total blood red moon on the Feast of Succoth all in 2015.”http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=63076

              Thu Oct 9 2014 First day of Sukkot Jewish holiday
              Mon Sep 28 2015 First day of Sukkot Jewish holiday
              http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/us/sukkot

              Obama elected president Nov 4/5th 2008 + 7 years later = Sep 28 2015 First day of Sukkot Jewish holiday (For 30 days the shofar is blown every morning in the Synagogue to remind the people that the holy days are approaching, in order that they may prepare themselves…Marianne )= October 28, 2015..may need some help here marianne..LOL http://www.jfqc.org/ten_year_calendar.pdf

              so…..if 2008 was the beginning of the “tribulation” then 3.5 years later would be…May 2012 ?

              • I do not think 2008 is the beginning of the tribulation. or other things would have happened by now.

                The first 220 days are quiet. Then events start to occur in the world and Israel. We are at day 440 now since the inauguration.

                http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/daniel-2300-vs-2520-days/

                what i do think is that, for the Jews, there are 2 holy places, because they live in 2 general areas – America and Israel.

                Since America needs to fall first as an ally, which would drive the Jews home to Israel, the abomination has to occur here first, as a warning and foreshadowing of the final abomination in the temple.

                Having a defiled person, an enemy of Israel, who took the position by intrigue, sitting in the white house, the “holy place” for America is this first abomination.

                30 months, corresponding to the 30 days of warning before the days of awe, later would be the summer of 2012. This is a guess.

                In the meantime, let us see if an AC figure makes an “agreement with many” regarding Israel. The bible does not say the agreement is one of peace, or that Israel is happy about the agreement. It might be the about division of Jerusalem.

                wait and see!

                • Hey Marianne….I noticed in Matthew…….”Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light … And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.” (Matthew 24:29-30)

                  It says Immediately after the tribulation….if the last solar/lunar eclipse for this century is in 2015…wouldn’t that put the tribulation in 2008? I don’t know….I am guessing

                  • remember, solar and lunar eclipses happen all the time…every year since time began.

                    if we were in the tribulation, there would be war ( yes) famine, pestilence and death…so far, in America anyhow, it has not been too bad…unless this is the wilderness the woman from Rev 12 escapes to.

                • However, the last time for a full lunar (4)and solar eclipse to occur on G-ds holy days is 2015-they will no longer occur on these holy days again this century….”He logged onto NASA’s eclipse website which provides precision tracking of the celestial events.

                  He noted a rare phenomenon of four consecutive total lunar eclipses, known as a tetrad.

                  He says during this century, tetrads occur at least six times, but what’s interesting is that the only string of four consecutive blood moons that coincide with God’s holy days of Passover in the spring and the autumn’s Feast of Tabernacles (also called Succoth) occurs between 2014 and 2015 on today’s Gregorian calendar.

                  “The fact that it doesn’t happen again in this century I think is very significant,” Biltz explains. “So then I looked at last century, and, believe it or not, the last time that four blood red moons occurred together was in 1967 and 1968 tied to Jerusalem recaptured by Israel.”

                  He then started to notice a pattern of the tetrads.

                  “What’s significant to me is that even before 1967, the next time that you had four blood red moons again was right after Israel became a nation in ’48, it happened again in 1949 and 1950 … on Passover and Succoth. You didn’t have any astronomical tetrads in the 1800s, the 1700s, the 1600s. In the 1500s, there were six, but none of those fell on Passover and Succoth.”

                  When checking the schedule for solar eclipses, Biltz found two – one on the first day of the Hebrew year and the next on the high holy day of Rosh Hashanah, the first day of the seventh Hebrew month. Both of these take place in the 2014-2015 year…”
                  http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=63076

                  *this has to mean something don’t you think?

            • hi lyndsey

              Not absolutely sure about what the HS meant, but it was not good. Beginning of something bad, end of what was good.

              My only thoughts for now is that America has to fall as an ally of Israel, for the end time events to occur there. Having a secular Muslim President would result in this scenario.

              Also, we have officially turned our back on God, by voting for a godless person.

              The rejection of Christianity as a positive force will worsen in the near future. It will be demonized as the cause of problems, instead of as the solution. Sin in the church will ruin our reputation.

              Alliances with demons will become more open and public.

              Earthquakes and other natural disasters will increase, as the birth pangs begin.

              We will lose our authority in the world, and the world will leave us behind in many ways.

              Israel will be abandoned, being left open to the Gog invasion.

            • yes these special feast days there are blood moons that are going to be on these days and this will be the last time in this century so look up JESUS IS COMING…I am as well learning about the FEASTS and how they attest to HIS COMING and THE BLOOD MOONS I AM SO THANKFUL TO A YOUNG LADY THAT TOLD ME ABOUT The FEAST…THEN BLITZ REALIZED THE CORRELATION FROM NASA’s table of THE MOONS AND THE JEWISH FEAST DAYS AND THEY ARE ONTHE SAME DAY PRAISE GOD

      • I too believe that it will be Feast of Trumpets when the Lord returns andt that is exactly what he is referencing when he says we will not know the “day of the hour”…i believe the Lord will be returning on the next Sabbath year which if I am not mistaken is also the next jubilee year. I do not believe we are “out of here” to be taken out of anything but will possibly he will protect those that are like the 5 wise virgins. in the meantime, I am preparing so I will not have to take the mark of the beast for food and water and if by some chance I am wrong and we are taken sooner, praise Jesus and whomever is left can find all my supplies. If my discernment of scripture is right I will have hopefully prepared enough supplies to share with all those that the Lord has me to share with.

  43. Karen,

    Me too…but my was more radical (meaning of the root; check out what Paul says about olive roots vs grafts). First I had a dream that showed me I was NOT full filling my spiritual potential (I was just happily cruising along as a non-practicing Christian). It was a very heavy admonition to shape up, now!

    Then, while I was traveling a stranger told me that ‘I would receive ‘my inheritance’ very soon’…since it was following the dream I found myself searching EVERYWHERE for any information I could get about what THAT might mean.

    Then I started reading (imagine that!) the Bible and found that according to my understanding, we were supposed to be following God’s calendars, feasts and celebrations – including honoring God’s day of rest (the Sabbath not Sunday [the day of the sun god]).

    That was a bit of a shocker, but glad to know now, as apposed to later (too late). I find the Jewish calendar and feasts a bit overwhelming to take in during such a short time period (because above all things, I know that TIME is short, very short). I hope you guys post some more of the dreams, or strange things happening to you…

    One thing to note, the last time I paid any attention to the Christian religion NONE of this was under discussion or on the table ANYWHERE…so what might have been progressive for you guys was a huge shock to the system for me…it was like being in college and showing up the last day of class, to the final, when you hadn’t attended a single day of class…know what I mean?

    • hi Christian

      Do not feel alone about being out of touch, and then suddenly waking up to all this. The same is true for the rest of us as well.

    • Same here Christian….A few weeks after my father died last month, the Holy Spirit told me to learn the Jewish Holidays….(i was raised baptist so didn’t have a clue). Another few weeks went by and I had forgotten about it and then Marianne’s posts kept pointing to the Jewish Holy days…and then I heard Him again “urging” me to learn them. I found them here at this link:
      http://reluctant-messenger.com/citsym/holy-day-calendar.htm

      I thought it was interesting that there are 7…with the Feast of Trumpets being the 4th…Analogy of the “7 year tribulation or Jacob’s trouble and the Feasts of Trumpets being in the last 3.5 years..” and then somewhere in Revelation it says we will be taken at the last trump?…is that right?

      Long story short, I have been trying the last few weekends to keep the REAL sabbath. And it is harder than it appears-you might laugh, but I have ADHD, and for someone who has to keep busy it is the HARDEST thing to actually REST as G-D commands…No EBAY….No idle words…..No working….No doing things that you like to do…..my Aunt laughed when I told her what I was doing..so I went to bed and took a nap (figured I couldn’t mess up if asleep :) LOL

      I have a whole new respect for the Jewish people!….And I haven’t even mentioned the Seder meal and unleavened bread,,,(I just went grocery shopping and bought PIZZA and BREAD)

    • The Lord is working miracles with many people. I believe he is beginning to wake up his “church” …I am so grateful that Jesus never gave up on me. It was I that drifted from him. We are in the final 7 years now. The Lord did tell me specifically on March 5, 2012 in a dream if you can call it that as it was actually just words he put in my head when he woke me. He said quit looking for the Covenant it has happened, you are in the final 7 years not. The next thing to look for is the Abomination of Desolation. so many people really just do not want to believe it has happened. First most say…don’t you think it would be all over the news, which I always thought the opposite. I had come to the conclusion that satan would probably NOT want it all over the news so we Christians that are seeking, and looking for it would not see it to know we were in these final years. I was one of those that was looking and looking for something that could have been “it” as the way the world was moving downhill so fast I thought surely it has happened but then never could “find anything specific” of course. anyway…I believe the next Sabbath/Jubilee year we will see the return of our Lord. I AM READY, COME LORD JESUS. QUICKLY.

      • The sign to look for is the rider on the white horse, not a covenant.

        The covenant has been in place for a long time.

        the AC only confirms, or affirms the covenant, which is “routine news,” and does not seem spectacular.

        the treaty between Israel and the Arabs has been in place since the early 1990s.

  44. He will transfer us from the kingdom of darkness to the Kingdom of Light of His glorious SON. Soon so very soon because He is on the Doorstep even now. This is one of those small little films which RE affirms to me how close we are.

    • you might want to put 7-31-2010 on your calendar, and watch, and see if the antichrist signs a 7 year peace deal with Israel, as this person says.

      • I think the antichrist is from Israel and he will sign a covenant with the many.
        Isa 28:14

        Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which [is] in Jerusalem.

        Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

        And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

        • Abigail,

          You are the first person, other than myself, who I have heard say this (it is so unpopular and everyone tends to screech anti-Semite, but it is the only thing that makes a bit of sense). I think he may be one of the Rothschild family, I am watching them closely. The Rothschild’s (name means Red Child, very significant) are German Jews, but perhaps also the most powerful people/family in the world currently, they have a questionable past, including financing the Nazi’s in WW2 to the detriment of many, many, Jews all for the worship of money. Some in the family supported the state of Israel and some didn’t want the state formed. The are a complex and secretive clan who wield more power than most of us have a concept. More importantly, they fit the bill perfectly for a number of biblical prophecies about the end time turning over Israel to a leader who is not of the line of kings…and all destruction that comes about from the hands of this man. And who is going to be fooled by the appearance of the anti-christ, Christian’s who know of him, or Judah, the people of Adonai, who have never read the new testament?
          Shalom,
          Christian

          • VERY INTERESTING…I Believed this family to have some part of the end time plan but mainly with the Bilderberg/illumanati but did not put much thought they could possilbly be involved in being the one who made “the convenant with many” …but sure could be a high possibility.

      • Recent Headlines:

        Obama slips (under secrecy) into Afghanistan to voice US resolve..Sunday, March 29th, 2010 (yahoo world news)

        Netanyahu tries to play down tensions with US
        AP – Sun Mar 28, 4:22 pm ET (yahoo world news)

        Arabs rule out peace talks unless Israel halts settlements (yahoo world news)

        Israel blames Palestinians for blocking US peace efforts
        AFP – Sun Mar 28, 4:25 pm ET (yahoo world news)

        Syria, Libya pressure Palestinians to quit talks
        -Syria and Libya teamed up Sunday to pressure the Palestinian leader to quit peace talks with Israel and return to violence, delegates to an Arab leadership summit said.AP via Yahoo! News – Mar 28 6:56 AM

        .Arab leaders renew support for peace efforts, rejecting calls from Syria, Libya to quit talks
        SIRTE, Libya – Arab leaders on Sunday renewed their support for Mideast peace efforts, rejecting pressure from Syria and Libya on the Palestinians to abandon talks with Israel and resume armed resistance.The Canadian Press via Yahoo! Canada News – Mar 28 10:48 AM

        Why is the EU failing to comply with its international law obligations over Israel?
        If you lived on a street where a neighbour frequently and flagrantly broke the law, you would want something done about it, especially if that neighbour took part of your garden, replaced the fence with a 30ft wall, cut down your trees and redirected your water supply.Times Online – Mar 10 1:56 PM

  45. Why are we talking about a jubilee in regards to a solar calendar when the Hebrew calendar is a lunar one.

    • hi John,

      I tried to take the Jewish calendar into consideration. Note comments like:

      However, since this year is 5769, which is a one (1) year, the next (1) year should be in 5776, which is Fall 2015-Fall 2016.

      ** I may be off by one year here, since one Hebrew year overlaps one solar year.

      If we have just a few years left the 2 calendars would be almost the same anyhow. They would differ, however, over long periods.

  46. I beleive your dates may be off. According to the Balfour Agreement, Israel was re-establshed in the land in 1917 and 50 years, on the next jubille, the captured jerusalem in the “six day war”….those highly prophetic events are fulfillment of leviticus 25, land reverting back to origional ownership as part of the the law ofthe Jubillee year….that leaves 2017 as the next jubillee year…. september feast days yet to be fullfilled, so september 2010 is the time the 7 yr trib possibly starts….. see earthquake2010.org for more on that

    • hi weatherbill

      You might be right. Makes sense. I figured what I did was just an estimate. I was guessing 2011, and on the jewish calendar, the year starts the previous september.

  47. 1967 was a signicant year, so i figure, 50 years is 2017,
    They will sound the Trumpets!
    Day of Atonement, during 2017….

    • hi mark,

      Things are getting close. It seems surreal. I am really excited about all this. wow, 2017…and it would all be over….finally. I hope this is right.

      • I am with you….Oh how I pray it will be this next Jubilee year!! so, can the Jubilee year then be from the Fall of 2016 to the Fall of 2017…and the Lord might could return either one of them ?

  48. Um, there is no rapture. If you believe in a rapture then you don’t believe in the second coming of Christ but a third coming too. When the saints who are dead in Christ awake because they hear their name being called and rise to meet Him in the air and then the rest of us whom remain alive will also be caught up IS the second coming of Christ. How then can this be considered a rapture yrs before Christ comes to rule the earth?

    • Hi Nigel

      I understand what you are saying. This is just a look at different ways to anticipate the return of the Lord.

      It is really a guess, although I think we are close.

      If you look above, I anticipate the “rapture” to occur at the time that many would call the second coming, which is after Jacob’s trouble, not before it.

      The idea of a rapture first, then a second coming later, is not something I am totally comfortable with.

      I personally feel believers will go through tribulation, as described in Matt 24, and then after, we will meet him in the air.

      So, in this case, the rapture = second coming.

      • Yes Marianne, you are correct, not all believers get to flee into the wilderness and be protected by God. Gods true people are scattered all over the earth.

        The more important question we have to ask ourselves is are we part of the true body of Christ or are we deceived in this world and are part of the body of satans massive church? Do we really follow God? Do we honor Jesus The Christ by listening to His voice and doing what He says? Do we keep the 10 commandments? Not 9 or 8 or 7 of them, or those which ever suits our lifestyle? Do we keep the 4th commandment? Do we still go to church on the seventh day of the week? Or do we follow the majority of the world and go on Sunday the first day of the week? Do we keep His Holy days that are supposed to be a statute forever and they foretell His whole plan to mankind? Do we mirror Christ? Do we know He came to not cancel the Law but to enforce it and make it even harder to follow? Back in the days before Christ came people could lust in their hearts all they wanted as long as they didn’t physically break the 7th commandment. Today Jesus tells us that if we even THINK about committing adultery we are guilty of sin now. True Christianity is even harder to do and we need to stay true to our calling and follow our Shepard so we will hear His voice wake us up from our graves when He returns but we also have to remember that God our Father in heaven needs to call us to the truth first. No one can come to Jesus unless the Father opens his/her mind. If we are not called we are following the wrong god.

        • Nigel … You say … ‘Do we still go to church on the seventh day of the week?’
          I say … Mat 6:5 ¶ And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites [are]: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

          But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

          So to answer your question … Let us obey ALL 10 commandments.
          The command of the seventh day is this …
          ‘Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it [is] holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth [any] work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.’

          Keep the seventh day Holy.
          Do not do any work in it.
          Do not carry a burden on that day.
          Which means no shopping.
          Do not do your own pleasure in that day … but rest … and keep it Holy.
          Keep your mind on the things of God.

          • i agree….i think we can go to church every day if we want including Sunday but that is entirely separate than keeping the Sabbath day Holy. I tend to agree with how you do on what the Sabbath day is about. For me the Holy Spirit has led me to NOT shop, to not work, to not cause anyone else to work, to rest, to meditate on him and his word and reflect and listen to the voice of the Holy Spirit to guide you.

  49. Hi Abigail, the problem with responding to each other via text and not actually saying if you agree or disagree I can take this two ways. If you are agreeing, then I say wow!!! I am amazed and very impressed. If you don’t agree with me I don’t understand if you are trying to tell me I’m a hypocrite? If its the latter I can say that internet does give extreme privacy and this is not my reward. I am hoping that people are reading what I am saying and the questions I asked earlier makes sense to them. This could be some peoples calling to the truth of God and it makes them want to seek out more of what the bible really says.

    Also, let me say to everyone who reads this, I must admit, after reading all the comments on this website I am very impressed overall with the open minds the people all have here. A lot of other sites I stumble across usually have the attitude, “Just love Jesus and believe in Him and you will be saved” But Jesus tells us more than that. Sure, believing in Him is important but its only a piece of the puzzle.

    The Holy Days (feast days) are important to God as noted here earlier by Marianne on Nov 7/08 and by Trish on Jan 6/09 therefore (according to the church I belong to and in my opinion) they should also be important to us and we need to observe them.

    The Passover season is fast approaching us again and we need to more deeply than usual examine ourselves. We need to humble ourselves and remember we are sinners needing to fine tune ourselves to be more like Jesus. To really make an effort and show God we love Him and we will put sin out of our lives. We do this by doing what Jesus did and He told us to do it and wash each others feet. (John 13:14) Also by starting the new year right by observing His first feast day coming up called the days of Unleavened bread starting sundown March 29th because yeast puffs up and grows just like sin can in our lives. We as people always liked something tangible to remind us of Gods ways so people wear crosses, but He gives us a tangible thing here and no one does it anymore. We need to purge out leaven from our homes and bodies because God told us to as an everlasting ordinance. Exodus 12:14-20

    For anyone interested, please Google “Gods Holy days” and read read read.

    Thanks to all who read my preaching. :)

    • Dear Nigel … I agree with you 100 %

      I was simply adding …
      And again I am adding … Passover from from march 28 th. sunset to sunset march 29th.
      Then begins the days of unleavened bread.
      I make my own bread and it is a poor man’s bread …
      Yes clean your home and your body of all leaven and during those Holy days eat nothing else but unleavened bread.
      This is not to prove your Love for God …
      But rather His Love for us.
      Seven days are the days of unleavened bread.
      Observe those Holy days and The Lord Himself will bless you. :)

      • :)

        I’m so happy to hear that Abigail. I hope you have a great passover season. I’m curious, do you observe the NTBMO coming up too?

        • What is NTBMO?
          Yes I plan to dance and sing and drink and eat turkey …
          We can’t have beef because the caterers don’t know how to make it kosher …
          Ron will be blowing the shofar … I think we will have a good time at Passover … God willing.
          This will be my first Passover with a group … I have always celebrated by myself … but this year I was invited by a Messianic church to celebrate the meal with them …
          Don’t know what to expect … if I go.

          • Hi Abigail, it means “night to be much observed” Some churches observe this as a special night because the bible say to observe this throughout ALL our generations. (Exodus 12:42) It takes place at sundown on the beginning of the 1st day of Unleavened bread.

    • If only it were as easy as just “believing” in Jesus to make it through those narrow gates. Even satan believes in Jesus and I sure don’t think he will be with the Lord in the end. I used to think that was all I had to do…never worried about my salvation because “I believed in Jesus”….well, the Holy Spirit has taught me differently….most preachers don’t preach the “and keep my commands” part. I know that we will none of us be sinless but I do believe that Jesus expects us to sure give it our best shot and strive to be Holy. I try to immediately ask the Lord to forgive me if I sin ( as the Holy Spirit usually brings it to my attention immediately). I don’t even want to wait at all before I ask for forgiveness. I do not want to die with unrepented sin in my life. I try to heed to the voice of the Holy Spirit immediately.

  50. Would love to know how to observe Passover and unleavened bread the right way? I am new to this….

    Would like to add that since reading Marianne’s sight, I have been more “aware” of food that we eat and buy. I try to only buy Turkey vs Pork…however, my son snuck in some Pork rines that I didn’t know were Pork until we got home…LOL

    But I don’t have a clue as to where I buy unleavened bread? Is that Ezekiel bread unleavened?

    • hi lyndsey

      Go to the international section of your grocery store and ask for Matzah. It comes in square boxes. Matzos look like giant crackers. Some stores actually have a kosher section…and all the Jewish foods are there.

    • The first thing you must do is clean your house … from top to bottom.
      Then you must gather all the leaven foods together and sell them or give them away.
      If this is not possible … then put them all together in an area which you nor anyone else of your family are able to access for the ten days of unleavened bread.
      Then during those ten days … you must eat only unleavened bread and nothing else.
      Surprising what this will do for you.

    • p.s. After you got rid of all the known leaven in your house such as rice , pasta etc …
      Declare before The Lord that any leaven you might have missed does NOT belong to you.
      ‘See how a little leaven leavens the whole lump.’

      • I meant 7 days … sorry my mind was elsewhere …
        But here is the scripture verse …
        Exd 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

        • I will try….William is very picky about what he eats…pizza or pasta…Is pasta ok?

          • no pasta is not ok.
            you could make pizza on unleavened bread.
            The command is you must eat unleavened bread.
            There are recipes on the net.
            Hope it is not pepperoni that he likes …

            The feast of unleavened bread is to commemorate the departure from Egypt.
            The first born must fast 24 hours prior to passover.

            Think of it this way.
            The angel of death went through out the land and killed the first born of the egyptian.
            Those who had the blood of the lamb on the doorpost were left untouched …
            but those who did not … well the first born died.

            i see here some mistake this feast with the atonement.
            They are different.
            The Israelites left in a hurry and did not have time to make fancy cakes for the journey.

            We are always coming out of Egypt … and if this is your first passover then it is your time to come out of Egypt.

            Another note here …
            The feast of Tabernacles does not entail any sacrifice.
            Only Atonement does.
            The feast of dwelling in tents has nothing to do with Atonement.

            And the feast of unleavened bread has nothing to do with Atonement.
            It is a feast unto the Lord because it is Him who delivers His people from slavery.

      • This mind set is a little scary to me and I’ll humbly try to tell you why……….. Rice and pasta are not leavened products. Even the world agrees that rice and pasta are not leavened.

        If you are going on the thought that you should not eat it because the bible says you must eat unleavened bread 7 days you are adding to the scriptures. No where does it say “ONLY” eat unleavened bread?? Also, the thing about declaring to the Lord that any missed leaven does not belong to you, once again, that is adding to the scriptures. God does not tell us to do this but He does warn us about adding to His rules and scriptures. (Deuteronomy 4:2 12:32) I hope this helps.

        • hi Nigel

          I think it depends on how far you interpret this. God said not to have any leaven in the house, so obviously if food contains leaven, it should not be there for the 7 days.

          Exd 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

          Exd 12:19 Seven days shall there be no leaven found in your houses: for whosoever eateth that which is leavened, even that soul shall be cut off from the congregation of Israel, whether he be a stranger, or born in the land.

          Exd 13:7 Unleavened bread shall be eaten seven days; and there shall no leavened bread be seen with thee, neither shall there be leaven seen with thee in all thy quarters.

          I am not sure about rice, but pasta is dry, but once it is exposed to water, it swells. The wet product is an easy substrate for leaven (yeast) to grow, which can come from the general environment.

      • Jesus also spoke of the leaven of the Pharisees. Part of the leaven was that humans had the right to build large houses and have slaves. Are you prepared to live in a modest home? Are you prepared to do your own laundry and house cleaning during the thousand year reign of Christ?

  51. In our church we do clean our homes to De-leaven them but we don’t KILL ourselves doing it. The days of unleavened bread is to portray putting sin out of our lives and the spiritual side of things are way more important to God vs the physical. No, you cant have bread in your freezer or yeast packs in your cupboard, you do need to make a conscious effort to remove the leaven from your home and we don’t store it somewhere and bring it back in either. That leaven needs to be put out of your dwellings as a symbol of sin. Just like the Israelites did with the scapegoat. They put their sins on it and sent it into the wilderness. It was a joyful time cause they knew the sins of their past were on that goat and God our Father has forgiven us thus far.

    Also, another point, since when does rice and pasta constitute leavened products? They are not puffed up.

    During Unleavened Bread we are to have no leaven or leavened products in our home (Exodus 12:15; 13:7). This includes yeast, a biological leavening agent that produces fermentation, and chemical leavening agents such as baking powder, baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) and potassium bicarbonate. These are ingredients to look for on labels. Items such as bread, cake, crackers, cookies and prepared cereals and pies that contain leavening must be put out. Doing this is symbolic of putting both the visible and hidden sins out of our lives.

    Although the following ingredients are associated with leavening products, they are not, by themselves, leavening agents: brewer’s yeast, yeast extract (a flavoring), corn starch and cream of tartar. Cream of tartar, being a dry acid, merely neutralizes the alkaline nature of baking soda and does not, by itself, cause dough to rise.

    I hope this helps everyone. :)

  52. PS: You don’t have much time left to prepare if you wish to do it on Gods calender this year. The days of unleavened bread are FAST approaching us.

    This year, the first day of unleavened bread (a holy day) it starts on Monday night at sundown March 29/10

    Passover is a day earlier, March 28th at sundown. A whole week away from the worlds view of easter monday on April 5th this yr.

  53. http://universaltorah.com/programming/2010/03/24/why-is-this-night-different-an-introduction.htm

  54. Oh cool, I didnt know we could post websites here. :)

    http://www.ucg.org

  55. Question: I am told that we are under grace and not the law…..so does that mean that we don’t have to continue the rules from the OT? I am confused….I am already feeling the “pull” with my Christian friends and family who think I am crazy to try and practice the jewish traditions….

    • Before Jesus, man had to use his own efforts and strength to obey the law. He was under the law as an ox is under a yoke.

      Since Jesus, the grace given us is the strength to obey the law out of love, not forced. Jesus said his yoke was light. We can now obey the law with ease, since Jesus helps us every step of the way.

      This pertains to the moral law and the various + 10 commandments.

      The ritual law is suspended as Jesus was our sacrifice. Once the feast of tabernacles is re- instituted, we will have sacrifices again.

    • Hi Lyndsey, I would like to try to explain why I think why people say the things you just said in your message. People who are not called by God don’t want to understand the truth. It’s too hard to follow God without His help from the Holy spirit. It’s God who opens our mind and things just make sense and to me it sounds like you are definitely heading in the right direction. You are asking all the right questions

      When people say we are saved by grace alone they are partially correct. I’ll be the first to admit that we are saved only by grace alone because there is nothing we can do to save ourselves. We sinned and the penalty for sinning was death. But if we LOVE Jesus we want to obey Him and listen to what He tells us to do. (Matthew 19:17 Mark 7:9 John 14:15,21) I say this my whole heart that the bible tells us that the PENALTY for breaking the law was the only thing that was nailed to the cross, not the law itself. God tells us in many places that we still need to obey Him and follow His 10 Commandments. (Matthew 5:18 is a great example of this. Heaven and earth are still here so the law was not done away with. If anything, Jesus made it HARDER to be a Christian now. As an example, back in the olden days people could lust in their hearts all they wanted towards another woman, as long as they never physically committed adultery with her they were safe, but Jesus came down to earth and increased the law a told us now that if we even look at a woman and lust in our hearts we are guilty of sin. (Matthew 5:28) We are told to live a Godly life, to be an example to the rest of the world. Does this sound like He did away with the law? I say no, He didn’t. We will obey His law BECAUSE we love Him and want to please Him. The bible also tells us that faith without WORKS is dead. If you have faith, you will automatically have works, they go hand in hand. (James 2:14-26)

      As for the Jewish traditions, I submit to you for your consideration that they are not Jewish traditions. They are Gods peoples traditions. When the Israelites left Egypt it was ALL the tribes of Israel that kept Gods Holy Days. The tribe of Judah just happened to be the one tribe that kept them the longest while the rest of the tribes fell away from God. I also submit to you that EVEN the gentiles kept the Holy Days too. If you read the new testament (which actually shouldn’t be called the new testament, a more accurate english description would be the revised or updated testament and the old testament should be called the original testament) Paul taught the Holy Days to the Gentiles. Why would he do this if they were only Jewish? Its very suttle and easy to miss but Paul wrote letters to the gentiles when he was in jail and he wrote 1 Corinthians 5:6-8 to the gentiles.

      Feel free to ask anything else that I might be able answer. :)

      Nigel.

      • Nigel,

        On your earlier post about the yeast…you HAVE to check…I thought the same thing and I had to throw out a bunch of food the I would have NEVER in a million years thought contained leavening, I wasn’t even going to check it (thought I was safe) and I checked it on a whim…everything from pasta, hot chai tea, to sauces, BBQ’d nuts, chicken stock (canned and powdered)…it seems like yeast in in many products from trail mix that had some crackers in it. We got tired of being surprised and went through the whole house after we discovered leavening in hot chai tea and powdered chicken stock. We ended up with a few pastas that didn’t have yeast (the Blue box of Barrilla) we kept all our dried beans, rice etc…and I consider anything that doesn’t have yeast added to be ok…but I was surprised, really surprised at all the places yeast is added into foods nowadays. I know it says ‘unleavened bread’ but I have kids so I am extra careful…you never know what they are going to mix together as a snack and I don’t want them to worry about making a mistake. Exodus says this (but don’t panic, if you didn’t, we are held responsible for what we KNOW)

        Exodus 12:15
        For seven days you are to eat bread made without yeast. On the first day remove the yeast from your houses, for whoever eats anything with yeast in it from the first day through the seventh must be cut off from Israel.

        Too Lyndsy,

        I just wanted to say that it is wonderful to hear that the Lord is continuing to work in peoples lives, I pray nightly for the Lord to call His people. I KNOW someone prayed for me to be able to hear Him calling and I am really excited to know that He has called another person to His ways. Your family may come around sooner than you think…my husband and my daughter were atheist before I returned to the Lord and they both told me independently how much the Lord working in my life has made a difference in theirs. As the spirit of God gives me the gifts of love, kindness, long suffering, etc, they both noticed that their lives had become more peaceful too and that their world was better for it. Now my daughter helps me with Sabbath and fixing the feasts and has taken a real interests and I have never said anything to them, other than explaining what I am doing. Don’t worry…let the light of God shine out from you and your family WILL fall in line…they already know Jesus (Yeshua) so they will see His will acting through your life soon enough.

        Shalom,
        Kiki

        • this is very encouraging to hear about your husband and daughter. I am praying for my son all day long that the Holy Spirit will draw him to him…and send someone “human” if necessary:-) to help with bringing him to know Jesus Christ truly as his Lord and Master. I know that Jesus says he will hear the prayers of a righteous man and I am diligently and faithfully seeking him and trying to live the holiest life I know how and put every ounce of effort and energy to live obediently. so, as I pray for my son to be with me in His eternal kingdom I know he will be as the Lord does promise to answer the prayers of His faithful. So all you out there praying for loved ones, live everyday for Jesus and He is faithful.

      • Thank you Nigel!

  56. Hi Christian, I’m very glad that a lot of people are taking God’s holy days, the days of unleavened bread to heart.

    All I can add is if you think some ingredient is a sin then don’t have it in your house. Do what you think is right in your heart and let no man judge you in what you do to follow God.

    And for all those people who still think pasta and rice count as leaven because they puff up. Absorbing water causes pasta and rice to puff up so it does NOT apply. You need to look at what is in pasta and/or rice.

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080109121416AAbMW1g

    This is just one example of what I found on the Internet. Pasta does not qualify as a leavened product in ANY WAY. We need to keep in mind why God said no leaven in our homes. It is supposed to symbolize the Israelites leaving Egypt in a HURRY. They didn’t have time to wait around for their bread to rise so they left Egypt in haste and this is another tangible aspect of what God is having us remember. Another exception to this rule though depends on what your church says too. If your church says pasta or rice is leavened then its leavened because what is bound on earth by the church is bound in Heaven. My church says pasta/rice is NOT a leavening agent…… but sodium Bicarbonate is a leavening agent. Personally I disagree with this too because I believe the leaven God is talking about is alive just like sin. Its a bacteria, it grows out of control if left unchecked. (A little leaven leavens the whole lump) SB is just a chemical reaction that is instant, theres no waiting around BUT, my church deems it to be a leavening agent that needs to be purged so as much as I disagree with them I put it out anyway because we are to obey the authorities over us which makes God happy.

    Tortilla yeast is another great example, even though its called yeast doesn’t make it a leavening yeast. This yeast does NOT make things puff up so it does not need to be thrown out.

    • this is how the Jews handle this issue:
      http://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/664473/jewish/Printable-Passover-Guide-2010.htm

      What is Chametz?

      Chametz is any food product made from wheat, barley, rye, oats, spelt, or their derivatives, which has leavened (risen). Our Sages have determined that flour from any of these five grains that comes in contact with water or moisture will leaven unless fully baked within eighteen minutes. As we are commanded by the Torah, if a food contains even a trace of chametz, we don’t eat it, we don’t derive benefit from it, and we make sure not to have any of it in our possession for all the days of Passover.

      To be certain that a product is Kosher for Passover, it must have rabbinical certification. Otherwise it is possible that it contains chametz ingredients, or traces of chametz if it was processed on the same equipment as chametz products. Thus, unless a product is certified “Kosher for Passover,” we consider it chametz, and make sure not to have it in our possession on Passover.

      the yahoo answer is not correct

      Flour can be self rising (with yeast or other leaven already in it)
      or
      plain flour (without yeast or other leaven.)

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leavening_agent

      If it is plain four, without yeast, it is still very susceptible to being leavened. If it is wet and exposed to the environment for a short time, it can pick up yeast from the surroundings, so if it gets wet, it has to be baked right away.

      I think people should do the best they can, however. It is the idea of sin that is to be removed from the house.

    • :)

      Yeah I know…I guess what I was trying to say was that 1/2 the pasta in the house had leaven added to it as an ingredient and 1/2 didn’t…we kept the pasta that had no leaven added but threw out the packaging that had leaven added to it.

      Then because Leviticus says to go throughout your house and get rid of the yeast we did…the people that I am in church with say that the yeast is a symbol of sin and that getting rid of it is a symbol of divesting yourself of sin…so while it was hard to get rid of that food I though to myself, well it is hard to get rid of sin too…but out it goes!

      Anyway, I know that you are correct. Everything we do we do for the Lord NOT other men/women. So I hope that whatever you decide the Lord is with you and this has been a blessed Pesach to you.

      Shalom,
      Kiki

      • Just a quick point here:

        It does not say “yeast” unless you are reading the NLT. The word yeast in the NLT comes from the word מַצָּה [matstsah /mats·tsaw/] which means unleavened…. therefore particular yeasts that do not leaven do not apply here. :)

  57. You are taking responsibility for leaven being in regular flour??? I don’t think God will hold you responsible for what happens naturally. Plus your bag of flour would have to be open for a long time to actually get enough yeast in it from the air. Any Tupperware container or even the closed bag you store flour in is good enough to stop natural yeast. But, I”ll tell you what I’m going to do, I am going to try this for an experiment. I am going to put enough flour in an open container and leave it for 10 months and try to make bread with it with no yeast added and see if it actually bakes properly. I’ll let you know my findings.

    But as I already said earlier. “If you think it’s a sin then don’t do it”.

    Happy 4th day of Unleavened bread everyone. I hope all is going well for you. :)

  58. Good Morning all, this has really been weighing on my mind that there are good people out here who want to follow God and His Holy Days He gave us but we are bearing a burden that we shouldn’t be.

    I want to add another point here for peoples consideration on some flour types leavening by itself. Just because the Jews do something one way, doesn’t make it right. Remember, the Jews were told by Jesus not to read more into the scripture constantly when He was here on earth and even from that link that Marianne posted there is another page worth noting here.

    http://www.chabad.org/holidays/passover/pesach_cdo/aid/627626/jewish/Is-alcohol-chametz.htm

    Chametz alcohol??? I remember watching a TV show once called the naked archaeologist (great show) and they were talking to two Jewish rabbai’s about alcohol and they said for example (I think it was vodka,) even though you can make alcohol two ways, grain based and vegetable based were chemically the same but one wasn’t allowed in the faith? (I think it was the true blue episode comparing the blue dye from the real Hilazon vs other types of blue dyes, one type is allowed, one is not.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck6XuWPb87Ethe

    We need to back our beliefs up from scripture in the bible and stop making things harder than God wants them to be. Just like the Pharisees did making up all these laws people couldn’t break on the sabbath like carrying a mat? Why couldn’t you not carry a mat? Because the Pharisees decided that it was considered work to carry anything heavier than a fig! But yet Jesus told us this was ridiculous and told us about doing good on the sabbath, like helping people, animals etc.

    God tells us to put leaven out of our homes for 7 days, thats what we need to do, we don’t need to be making this harder than it already is by saying well this COULD leaven on its own so we need to get rid of it too. Lets focus on the actual leaven in front of us and inside us and purge it out of our lives.

    Happy 6th day Of Unleavened bread everyone. :)

  59. Well we all have read and heard that our sun will turn dark … and some believe it to be an eclipse.
    I don’t and never did think that something as mundane as an eclipse of moon would herald My King.
    Yes! our sun will put on sackcloth … and soon too! …. But it will be of a different nature!
    For those of you capable of hearing this …. I pray you hear!

    • There is a good chance you are right about these references to the sun being darkened, being more than just an eclipse. But you need to understand this, God uses eclipses as warnings. Solar eclipses are bad omens for the gentile nations. Lunar eclipses are bad omens for Israel. These eclipses will be important signs that God uses to bring understanding to His people and will most likely be a major part of the tribulation period. Specifically on God’s Feast Days.

      • Hey Al,

        I don’t think eclipses are always bad omens…the last time that eclipses fell on Jewish Holy Days Israel became a state in 1948 and Israel won Jerusalem in 1967 (6 day war).

        • Hey Lyndsey,

          The blood moon being a bad omen is how the jews have come to understand it. While May 15, 1948 was the day Israel became a nation again, that same day they were attacked by Egypt, Lebannon, Syria, Iraq, and Saudai Arabia. In 1967, the six day war. In 1492, the Spanish Inquisition. The question is, what event will unfold during the Blood Moons of 2013-2015? If this is Yashua’s return, before He does come back, 2/3 of Israel will perish during this time period. It seems like good things come out of some of these events, in the long run. But not in the shortrun.

          • maybe one of these years will be when the Abomination happens…I believe that the Abomination is going to happin in 2013…not sure if it will but seems to be in my mind a lot lately this could be when we really need to be on the alert…to be ever so watchful.

    • I believe the darkening will be the result of volcanic eruption caused by the earthquake at the breaking of the sixth seal, which appears to be the same time as the 7th Trumpet…the coming of the Lord.

  60. Okay. To seriously turn the tables on anyone who believes that now is the time of the anti-christ and Christ. The reason of Christs second coming has nothing to do with your prophecies. Everyone in the world including most organized religions, even the Christians who find themselves flawless through the belief in Christ (and this does has some truth to it), are finding new ideas and problems of the imagination (because none of this is real yet) because they operate through fear. The fact that so very few see themselves as actually wanting to face serious suffering to be humbled in the new mind of god, thus facing some sort of resurrection themselves, shows me that yes now is the time. Now is the time because you are all simply lost. You cannot condemn Islam, you cannot simply speak of truth finding its way into the world. You need to be more responsible, and if there is one thing you could say, it would be to say that Christ is here now (the whole idea of the present moment which you have forgotten… by the way holy people exist and they are merely people that see themselves as servants to god) and that Christ beckons you to be a little more critical of your personal quest and to remove such outlandish thoughts from your mind because they simply misdirect you from communicating with your higher self.
    Slow your role as people. If you condemn Islam you place condemnation into your mind and this is fear. This is far from what your God is and if you do not have a fully loving relationship with god as religious peoples then YOU are exemplifying anti-Christ. Wisdom is inside you and you need not point fingers as to where the world makes its doom. Doom is evident when all fail to realize people are brothers and that we as Gods have the ability to unite or separate. please, create peace in your own minds before you spread what you feel is knowledge, for knowledge in fact can be your greatest downfall. There is much unlearning to be done before your journey begins. Give yourself to humanity give your ego away, forget fear, and accept only love in your hearts. This is the meaning of Christ, this is the meaning of the lord.

  61. The Bible says that when you see these signs come to pass, look up.
    We know Christ comes soon.I tell my people to be prayed up and paid up for we see Christ’s coming is very soon. Be ready.

  62. Here is a free download of a book that gives a very different interpretation of Bible prophesy. Very positive message that has its foundation in Love< Worth a look!!!!!

  63. http://www.lulu.com/product/file-download/satans-release-and-his-final-defeat/10981635?productTrackingContext=search_results/search_shelf/center/1
    Sorry here is the download

    • hi Ray

      Thanks for the link. I am thinking there will be no revival without suffering first. Most Christians are too complacent, and they will not be motivated unless something really bad happens.

      • Hmm, thats a different way of looking at it.I think True Christians who follow God are eating, breathing, and living every minute of their lives trying to be a light to this world and mirror Christ in good and bad times. If you are not doing this, you are not called by God and therefore not a first-fruit anyway and will go through the great tribulation and probably die from it too.

        • Nigel,

          We all fall short. Be careful judging, for you will be judged accordingly and worse.

          Matthew 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

          2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. Mk. 4.24

          3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

          4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

          5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.

          • I’m sorry you took this as judgment. I’m only giving an opinion. Judgment is more like saying you Mr “fill in the blank” are going to die in your sins, etc.

            I just meant a generic “YOU” (anyone) don’t obey God you will suffer.

            • well…I agree as scripture does say that Christians are accountable.. that is why when a brother sins against us we are to go to them in private, if that does not work take a witness, it that does not work go to the church with it…it is only for the sake of that person salvation that we are to speak to a true fellow believer about sin in their lives.

  64. 71+ of your book is something everyone who celebrates Christ should read. Don’t forget that Christianity is but one religion amongst thousands of gifted seers and prophets whose only concern was to discover spirituality for themselves so they could unite many who seem lost. They might be offended to hear that one was recieving all the praise, and moreso that there own personal knowledge was categorized into a realm of religion which is all too human. Mysticism is the greatness that many would learn to see and the first step is to educate on how. Great job with your book/work. Hope you continue to stay driven on informing.

  65. I have read a lot of the comments contained in this blog. Though it is evident that the time of Yashua’s return is close, it is not the most pressing issue here. The question is, WHO IS HE COMING FOR? Without starting a firestorm, I would like to give some food for thougt. Are you aware that the United States is the only country in the world to believe in a pre or mid trib catching away? I have read that even Hal Lindsey has said there is nothing solid and concrete that states a pretrib rapture (not a direct quote). Everything is based basically on incomplete reasoning. One opinion basically leading to another until the desired outcome is reached. The danger is, no one in the western church prepares for what is coming. Remember, Yashua said that it would be in the last days as it was in days of Noah. He was not being critical of the fact, that Noah’s generation was doing basic everyday ordinary things, like eating and drinking, giving in marriage and so on. You have to look at what was missing from that list. PREPARTION! Why were they not preparing. Regardless of what they believed, they didn’t think it pertained to them. Tell me how this is different from what the western church is doing and thinking. I believe the bible text, as it was originally written is infallible. Not what we have among us now. The word says to study to show yourselves approved. And that doesn’t mean these loose translations we have now. It takes time and energy to do. But to not do it is deadly. In large part people are basing their salvation on another’s opinion. I am not talking about the original writers of the scriptures, but rather those who translated with a bent towards their own personal theology. Don’t be naive, it is there. The subject is too deep and wide to go into here. Just look at the Book of Revelation. Here is one of the assumptions the church has made concerning the rapture. After the discourse to the seven churches, the term “church is not mentioned anymore”. The assumption, it is no longer here. It has been raptured away and Israel is left to endure the tribulation. Two things, the word church is never found in what is called the old testament. Yet the root word for church is the same as the root word for assemly or congregation. The question is, why in the New Testament was a new word used in the english language that had never been used before? To show that this is purely a gentile thing and has nothing to do with Israel. It was a breaking away from the Father’s original intent, that ALL Israel should be saved. If you have made it this far, I have one more thing to add. Why did Yashua start off talking to each of the assemlies in Revealtion, with the phrase, I know your WORKS! Why did he not say, I know your heart, or I remember the day you acknowledged me, or something that throws the responsibilty for our salvation fully on His shoulders, as if our actions mean nothing. Don’t get me wrong, He and He alone paid for our salvation. But that doesn’t mean we have no obligation. Don’t be naive. The natural is a reflection of the spiritual. No one raises their children to believe that our actions don’t matter. I will submit this: Paul in Ephesians talks about Jew and Gentile, one New Man In Yashua (Jesus). What does the “church” offer here? The Messiah, Yashua. What do the Jews offer here? The response and life we are to give to the Messiah. Look past the preconceived ideas and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

    • hi Al

      What is your conclusion about the timing of the rapture?

    • They did not prepared because they did not believe.
      Instead of believing and thus preparing they mocked.
      And so the day caught them unaware.

      In the case of Lot … remember Lots’ wife.

      • HI Abigail

        I understand what you are saying, but I think we are talking about two different things. I am not talking about belief in God as creator and the one who saves us. I am talking about what we believe as far as the timing of the catching away. This is very specific. The Word says that (concerning the tribuation) if those days had not be shortened, not even the elect would survive it. While I believe there is physical prepartion, there is also a preparation that affects our spiritual preaparedness, mental outlook, our daily thoughts, a concerted effort to pull more away from concerns over earthly matters and focus on the reality of His appearing. If we believe we will not be here during this time,where is the urgency of being more vigilant and diligent? Especially, when we have been taught that all you have to do is say a small prayer and all is done. Nothing else is required of you. The scripture says “MY” people perish for a lack of knowledge. He is not talking about unbeliever’s here. I do believe that there are those who believe in a pre-trib rapture, who will be able to make the adjustment based on their total committment to Yashua. But conversely, I believe the weak and those without understanding, will be disallusioned and confused, causing bad and wrong decisions to be made. Yashua talked about two houses being built, one on the rock and one on the sand. Yashua is our rock, but in Him is understanding and wisdom and knowledge. All of this is too important to just accept teaching from tradition and others without finding out for ourselves. While provision is made for His people during the tribulation, everything we perceive with our physical senses will bring nothing less than terror. I believe if a person enters the tribulation calling themselves believer’s, but never cultivated and took the time to deny themselves and struggle to advance spitiually, they will be consumed with the storm and sink. Much like Peter when trying to walk on the water. I am not trying to be argumentative or finding fault. I have a hard enough time dealing with my own shortcomings. But,if people do not take responsibility for searching out truth and knowledge, and then apply it in their lives, they will reap the reward of what they do possess. God will be everyone’s judge.

        • Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.

          That is the Rock! No matter if I sleep or work or eat and drink or whatever I do my mind is FIXED on HIM.
          And to Love Him The Christ who stands in me and gives me The Strength every moment.
          My hands are His … My feet are His … My eyes are His … My ears are His … My mouth is His … My lips are His … truly I am the handmaid of GOD.

          And He protects His own. And He guides and leads His own. And He counsels His own … There are no secrets which He withholds from His own. And He is my camouflage and my cloud by day …
          And He is my Fire and Light by night. He surrounds me and He surprises me … There are no dangers that He does not inform me of.

          Stand there with a pretentious attitude and He will let me know your intent. Stand there in hypocrisy and He will let me know your thoughts.
          No one can harm the anointed of God! I trust Him for all things and in all things!
          If a person decides to serve HIM … it is God Himself who will wash your feet!
          If a person in their heart decides before God to love Him and to Love what God loves then …. it is God Himself who becomes your shield and your spear!

          It is Him who judges where you would give it Him to judge.
          it is Him who recompenses where you have not thought that an event or an abuse would have been repayed!

          And I could say so much more …
          The bottom line is this … My God has a ‘little’ flock!
          Not many at all …
          The rest just do not care to seek Him … because they are not His.

          But know this that though His Flock is little … He who Tends these IS MIGHTY!!!!!!!!!

          • Hi Abigail,

            Just read this and it couldn’t have come at a better time. Is this a prophetic word? I needed to read this…”Stand there with a pretentious attitude and He will let me know your intent. Stand there in hypocrisy and He will let me know your thoughts.
            No one can harm the anointed of God! ”

            Thank you G-D! and Thank you Abigail for being his eyes, ears, hands…..

  66. Hi Marianne

    Just as Yashua fulfilled each of Yaweh’s spring feasts, to the day, to the hour, so He will fulfill the Fall feasts, to the day, to the hour. Just as Elohim, at Mount Sinai, told Israel they had two days to prepare, for on the “third day” when the trumpet blasts they were to appear before Him cleansed and pure. The year is not that easy to nail down. I have my thoughts on that, but the day of the year is settled. It is not a specific day on the Gregorian calendar, but a fixed day on the Hebrew calendar. Iishri 1, which is the Feast of Trumpets. The Feast of Trumpets begins the 10 days of Awe, which is the period of time when God’s wrath is truly poured out on this earth. At the end of the 10 days of Awe, we come to Yom Kippur, Tishri 10, the day of restoration for national Israel, when the Nation of Israel will be restored to their prominience among the nations. On Tishri 15, the Feast of Tabernacles, the Messianic rule begins. It is my understanding that between Tishri 1 and Tishri 10, the Marriage Supper of the Lamb will take place. I personally believe the triulation period actually began in Sept of 2oo8. That in the early part of 2012 will begin the final 3 1/2 years of Jacob’s trouble. That would make the catching away at the Feast of Tumpets 2015. Everything I see and understand point to that but I refuse to say I know for a fact that is when it will happen. One thing we do know for sure, it is time for all of us to PREPARE! It is not a small thing, even for the elect.

    • hi Al

      I am glad you reminded me of the trumpet blast at Sinai. I heard one at 4:30 am on May 28th.

      Two other people heard it also, in different parts of the country, that did not know me. They wrote in about it.

      I wrote about it here:
      http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/first-trump/

      A man on the west coast, I am east coast, said it reminded him of the horn that blows when it is time to take cover in war, when missiles are coming in. I thought maybe it was a warning.

      But it would also make sense that it is a signal to prepare for “day 3″ when God will descend to the earth. If correct, this means we have 2 years left from May 28th, which was right after Pentecost. The man on the west coast heard it the week before, on Shavuot (Pentecost). The woman on the Gulf coast heard it on the same day I did.

      Shavuot (Pentecost) in 2012 is on Sunday, the 27th of May.

      If Jacob’s trouble starts then, it will be over by the Fall feasts 3 1/2 years later, in 2015.

  67. Nigel and everyone;
    I just want to make you and eveyone else aware of something when you post a video. Post it in a separate box, or else it won’t show up, only the web site will. And I don’t think these You Tube TV sites or google videos will post either, so see if the video is on You Tube. I used to get my videos to pop up and then they wouldn’t and I couldn’t understand why. Marianne suggested I use a separate box. The videos you posted look interesting but will be missed. I’m going to post your videos for you so next time you will know. When there gets to be a lot of entries, others might miss out on a good video.

  68. Who is Beyond Today sponsored by?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Church_of_God
    http://www.hwarmstrong.com/
    http://www.bible.ca/pre-british-israelism-herbert-armstrong.htm
    http://www.beyondtoday.tv/booklets/us/britishisraelism.asp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Israelism

  69. Bobby Fisher was a former member of the United Church of God. Here is what he had to say about them

  70. What does Bobby Fisher have to do with the Messiah?

    A year and half ago when I learned what I consider to be the truth about 9/11 I went on this journey with some Israeli friends on the internet, first starting my investigation of different Christian denominations and beliefs and then moved into the influential Jewish people. It was mostly me. They tolerated it. I was always taught Israel and the Jews was God’s time piece so I watch them. You said so yourself over in

    http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/anti-zionism-%E2%80%93-jewish-self%E2%80%93betrayal/

    “Again, according to prophecies, the Branch, the Messiah, will come to save Judah from its enemies. He cannot do this if they are not there already…!!!!!”

    “Even Christians understand end time events predicted by your prophets better than you do.”

    How’s God going to do that? They can go peaceably and willingly or they can go forcibly by persecution and destruction. That’s coming to this country. I’m not going to quote any scripture, it’s just my opinion. Rabbi Zamir Cohen made reference to this in his video too. http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/how-does-gog-and-magog-relate-to-armageddon/

    Bobby Fisher came up because this Israeli friend of mine was teaching his 3 year old how to play Chess. Some people look at life like its a Chess game. If you play your moves right you win. Isn’t God in control? Bobby Fisher was really deceived and he had a brillant mind. What a waste. I hope others learn from his example.

    Those videos Nigel posted are very deceiving, even to me. They look and sound good. Satan knows his time is short so he’s doing everything in his power to deceive people. The cults are just an example of that. We won’t have long to wait for his return.
    I thought it was interesting . I’m always getting off the subject or going down rabbit trails. It’s easy to do. I see connections. I don’t know anyone who thinks like I do.

    This was the long way of making a point. Sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe some will finding it educational.

  71. Wow Kittii, thanks for all the posts….. I think, LOL. :)

    Let me be the first to say that I don’t believe Mr HWA was perfect by any stretch and he had his faults like we all do. But HWA was never anything like the evengelical preachers you see fall from their thought of grace today.

    And UCG is not a cult. Cults control its members and UCG tells you that you take responsibility for your own actions that you do in your life. This church follows the bible and what it says. We don’t make anything up thats not in the bible. I ask that you look past all the HWA problems you are focusing on and just look at the church and what it teaches. What does UCG teach that can possibly make you think its the work of satan?

    Thanks.

  72. I have heard Armstrong preach on TV, and I thought he was ok. Nothing radically different from what the bible says.

  73. Thanks Marianne, I appreciate the comment…….. and for the record, to Kittii, I did watch your entire video of 1 hr 14 minutes and I plan on watching it again too just so I know for sure what they are trying to say. But so far here are some comments off the top of my head about the video:

    It’s sad that comments were made about the literature that people were sent and they threw it out without even reading it. We are told in the bible to examine things and prove the bible and that is why I watched the video. I don’t fear what anyone says about my religion, heck I ask for people to challenge me at work to prove me wrong from the bible. No one has done it yet and this video hasn’t done it yet either. Its all about interpretation of the bible. Just like in the video, they kept giving credit to God about the new direction the church was heading…… ONLY GOD could have made such drastic changes they keep saying……. well, no, thats not true. If this was one of Gods true churches then after Mr Armstrong died God could have easily gave satan permission to test this church with the new found doctrine. Who would have stayed and who would have left??? Well, we found out who the wheat and chaff were very fast when Mr Tkach SR changed doctrine. Plus the video doesn’t mention this but Tkach SR died 40 WEEKS after he announced the new doctrine……. do you not find this suspicious? Why would God allow His minister to die if this was a revelation to be given to the people from God? I’m not saying God was responsible for his death, but it makes you wonder.

    Also, this video implies that Armstrong never talked about Jesus??? He always talked about Jesus. So for people to say they never knew Jesus until Tkach taught Him is absurd.

    If you also believe this video you posted then you have to ask yourself, why did God make the (so called old covenant) if He knew it would fail? If God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow, how could His thoughts on His law change? It was man that couldn’t keep the covenants, they are perfect, man is flawed but with the Holy Spirit man can at least try to follow Gods law.

    There also were a LOT of covenants God had with man, but the only covenants that were done away with was the sacrifices, the high priest, circumcision, etc. Unclean meats is still in effect. The last time I checked, the unclean animals like pigs and lobster still cleaned the earth. God did not change their purpose on earth so how can you tell me they are clean now? Same thing as the Holy days, why would God do away with them but yet bring them back when His Son returns? You are saying all the covenants that God had with man are obsolete and they are not.

    I can go on and on about what I think is wrong about the video you posted but I think links are a much better way to let people decide on what is right and wrong. Below is a link to a long and detailed view on our churches belief backed up by scripture in the bible on the old covenant and does it abolish Gods law? It’s a good read for anyone interested.

    http://www.gnmagazine.org/booklets/NC/

    The video also talks about the Holy Spirit being an entity of its own. But, IT is only the POWER of God. If we learn about the original greek text from the bible when the bible says “he” will teach (John 14:26) the greeks dont have a greek word for the word IT. So when the bible was translated to enlish the word was translated to HE. The greek word could have also meant SHE but definitely not IT. The word IT does not exist in greek so of course they would have said he. Its kinda like the femine/masculine thing we find in french and spanish. Plus, if the Holy Spirit was an enitity of its own then why doesent the bible EVER mention that we CAN or NEED to pray to it??? Plus if you read Matthew 1:18-20 it says Mary was concieved by the Holy Spirit, so if the Holy spirit impregnated Mary, why does Jesus call the Father in Heaven His Father? Wouldnt the Holy Spirit be His Father??

    I highly recommend reading the whole booklet called WHO IS GOD, but I’m going to post a link to the chapter of the book that deals with the subject of the Holy Spirit directly. It makes a LOT of good points on why we believe the God Family does not have three people but only two and the power of God is distinct.

    http://www.ucg.org/booklets/wg/holyspirit.htm

    As I said, there is sooooooo much I can go on and on about in this video but I want to point out one more thing thats fresh in my head. The video makes fun of mr Armstrong when he tells people we will become Gods when His Son returns. I’m pretty sure he gets this from the bible. One place I know of off the top of my head is John 10:34,35 oh and don’t forget 1 John 3:2 as well.

    In closing, I hope all of you search the scriptures for the answers yourself. If you are called by God, you will interpret them one way, if you are not called then you will interpret them another way. The bible is very clear that the bible is full of mystery and hidden truths.

    With Love,

    Nigel.

  74. I like testimonies. Here’s another one;

  75. First off, let me apologize to this thread for Kittii completely hijacking the thread and turning it into something completely off topic!! As I said Kittii, you need to give up on your hatred for HWA and look past that. It’s the past, he is dead, fast asleep in his grave. lol. UCG is completely different, we don’t have any of these issues that faced WWCOG. Everything is different about us now. A different leadership, we now have a council of 12 leading the church, not one man anymore. It got rid of a lot of little HWA mistakes.

    If Kittii wants to give an address to another thread somewhere on the internet I would LOVE to continue this discussion there. But for the record I will comment on these two videos made by this person who was probably 4 yrs old when the church that HWA was leading went through most of this. If I don’t comment on a certain topic she talks about, its true and biblical.

    1. Mr Armstrong thought he was the only true church, yes, this was an error on his part. Many members did not believe this because it was not biblical. We still went because there was nothing else in North America that came close to teaching what we believed.

    2. HWA never said that God spoke to him. I have heard him say God spoke to him through the bible…… big difference.

    3. We didnt look down on mainstream christianity because they thought they would burn in hell forever.

    4. Putting people out of the church for sin is bibically sound. 1 Cor 5. It sepends on the ATTITUDE of the person, do they care to change their ways? if not, then they might as well not even bother coming to church. Jesus warns us that a little sin can leaven the whole lump and to purge sin out of our lives. If the sinner is not willing to change, they need to be kicked out.

    5. Your body is supposed to be a temple for the holy spirit to dwell in, why would you want to defile your temple by hurting it with smoking or anything bad for it?

    6. I married someone outside the church and was never kicked out, my dad was married to my mom who was outside the church and both of us never got kicked out or punished. If this happened in her congragtion it was a minister of the area that made that decision.

    7. Thanksgiving is not pagan based, whats wrong with thanksgiving?

    8. 10% 1st tithe is now on net in UCG

    9. 10% 2nd tithe was put in your own bank account and spent on yourself at the feast of Tabernacles, it helped people not borrow money to go to Gods Holy Days. If you had excess (couldnt spend it all) the church would ask for you to send it in so they could distribute it to lower income families who didnt make enough to pay for their feast celebration. It was voluntary and still is. Its between you and God, not the church if you do it or not.

    10. 10% 3rd tithe she talks about was every 3rd year. This money was distributed to other church memebrs who had no income like widowers etc. UCG does not do this anymore because of the government system we have setup here in North America. In the past when the church would suppliment someones income the government would claw back their support in an equal amount so UCG declared that 3rd tithe was no longer needed.

    11. Sabbath was and is a day to honor God, you could do anything on this day as long as it was God centered.

    12. People were not USED in resteraunts. They made a choice to not honor the sabbath so they were at work by their own choice. Not ours. They are in charge of their life. BUT, there are a lot of people who are still conflicted about going out to resteraunts on the sabbath and UCG says its really a personal choice, if you think its a sin, don’t do it.

    13. Makeup, once again a HWA fiasco.

    14. Saying bad things is completely biblical Col 3:8. If you have a good bible program just search the word “mouth”

    15. I was always allowed to go to the doctors when I grew up in WCG. Once again, this was personal choice, the church NEVER said YOU CANT GO TO A DOCTOR!!!

    16. Wow, she admits she was only 2 when HWA died. This just proves my point about this whole testimony you quote, everything she is saying is hear say. That explains why she has so many details jumbled.

    Point me to a different website Kittii. I would love to continue anything else you have. The bible tells us to be prepared with an answer and you are honing my skills. :)

    Nigel.

  76. Nigel;
    Hatred is a very strong word. Hatred in you heart for anyone is murder. That’s a sin. WWCOG

  77. WWCOG is another cult. It’s replacement theology too. And God is the one who hates the cults who usurp the truth. I guess I’m going to be known for “Hijacking” the thread and getting completely off the subject on a lot of these blog pages. At least I’ll be remembered.

    I want to retract something I said above about God regathering the Jews of America to Israel. I said it was my opinion. That’s not entirely true. I just had to go dig around for the scripture and reference. Here is the reasons I came to believe the Jews have to be regathered:

    http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/an-interpretation-of-matthew-24-25-part-1

    So this verse not only speaks of the judgment that surely came in a.d. 70, but looked to a future time ofredemption for Israel because the passage contains the forward looking word”until.” Luke 21:24 recordsanother use of “until” by our Lords when He says, “and they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all thenations; and Jerusalem will be trampled under foot by the Gentiles until thetimes of the Gentiles be fulfilled.” Hebrew Christian Bible teacher, Dr. Arnold Fruchtenbaum, says Israel must call for the Lord to rescue them as a condition for the second coming,based upon Matthew 23:39.[4] Dr. Fruchtenbaum explains:
    But then He declares that they will not see Him again until they say, Blessed is He that cometh in the name of the Lord. This is a messianic greeting. It will mean their acceptance of the Messiahship of Jesus.
    ` So Jesus will not come back to the earth until the Jews and the Jewish leaders ask Him to come back. For just as the Jewish leaders lead the nation to the rejection of the Messiahship of Jesus,they must some day lead the nation to the acceptance of the Messiahship of Jesus.[5]
    Dr.David Cooper echoes Dr. Fruchtenbaum’s understanding when he says, “Since Jesus came in the name of the Lord, and since He will not return until Israel says,’Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord,’ it is clear that thepeople of Israel will see and recognize that Jesus was and is their trueMessiah.”[6] The last few verses of Matthew 23 means that judgment was coming in the near future, but, beyond judgment, deliverance and redemption awaits the Jewish nation. Judgment did come in a.d.70 and Matthew 24 speaks of the still future redemption of Israel.

    The Jews of America are too comfortable here and the dual citzenship has to be abolished.

  78. http://grou.ps/lastdaysprophecy/blogs/item/when-is-the-next-jubile

  79. Kittii, so you are basically saying the jews will decide when Christ returns?

    I think Matthew 24:22 and Mark 13:20 indicates that God intervenes on His own schedule. We make such a mess of things that He saves our butts when all people know there is no way out of the mess we are in. Maybe this IS when jews will admit Jesus is our Lord. Who knows?

  80. Nigel;
    The Jews are the time piece. You need the Jews, Israel and a Temple to fulfill Revelation. No one else can do that. That’s why Satan hates them, is always persecuting them and tries to get rid of them. Did you know so many, probalby most Jews don’t know they are the lynch pin.

  81. OOPS! WHAAAAAAAAAAAATEVER!

  82. First, I’ve really enjoyed reading everyones posts en this message board about ” The Lords Jubilee Year! ” The Lords Year of Jubilee is All About Forgiveness ! The Lords Forgiveness of all of us, and How All of us should Forgive ! Their is Nothing Closer to God’s Heart, than His Year of Jubilee ! For it is ” The Lord God ” that FREELY Gives us ALL THINGS!

    Yet Everyone take a Look Around You, and See and Witness How Fast Man can ” Get A FREE GIFT ” From ” The Eternal I AM ” and Then Turn Around and Sell that FREE GIFT They Received From ” God ” For Money $$$ Sell That Gift that They Got FREE to Their Fellow Men and Brethren For “Filthy Lucar & Money” and then Enslave Their Fellow Man into Financial Slavery and Bondage ! ( Dear Lord in Heaven ) Let Everyone on this Message Board See This and Understand this.

    The Judgement upon Israel in AD 70 with the Destruction of the Temple, and then them being scattered all over the world, Came Expressly Because of the Hardness of the Hearts of the high priests and the people, in NOT OBSERVING The Years of ” The Lords ” Jubilee Properly, and for Rejecting The Messiah Jesus Christ !

    Also I would like to remind everyone of the scripture that says that “No Man knows the Day or the Hour” and also of the verse of scriptures that say:
    Revelation 1:7 which states:

    Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

    John 19:37 And again another Scripture says, “THEY SHALL LOOK ON HIM WHOM THEY PIERCED.”

    Zechariah 12:10 “I will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son, and they will weep bitterly over Him like the bitter weeping over a firstborn.

    Matthew 24:27:

    For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
    _____________

    What Do We All Do for ” The King of Kings ” ???

    We Wait Patiently, Prayerfully, and Most of All Thankfully !!!

    Maranatha

  83. Thanks, i appreciated the article. I agree with you on most things. No, we cannot really set a date, but i too think the time is growing near and your explanations are great. They agree with Mark Biltz “blood Moon” teaching. During the Obama run for presidency i aslo stated that he would win because of the times…America has to fail to the agenda of the New World Order and the uprise of the gov’t that will soon be run by antichrist, whoever that may be. I do not agree with you on your Palin and McCain comment. These two are also part of the elite’s system of politics just like bush was. If this statement seems confusing, please do our research on Bush, skull and bones, bohemian Grove, and many of the other secret societies these ACTORS belong too. Things have not been as they seem for a long time now. We live in exciting times where we wee these things speeding up on a daily basis.

    Come Yeshua Come

    • hi Sam

      Well, disagreement (yours about Palin) keeps this blog going. :)

      My approach is that: through cognitive dissonance, truth is reached.

      I think Palin really is a Christian, maybe not perfect. I thought she was smarter than the men we had running.

      My view was that at least, on the platform they were running on, disaster for America would not have come so rapidly as it is coming now. They at least had a pro-Christian voting history and position on some issues.

      Obama opposed anything that God stood for.

  84. If anyone is wondering about the image of Jesus between the Lion and the Lamb, it is a painting done by Lars Justinen and Pacific Press own the rights to it. I doubt it was used here with permission. A print or license for it can be purchased from Goodsalt which has exclusive resale permission for it. See link below.

    http://www.goodsalt.com/details/pppas0577.html

    • Dear Dave

      Thank you for telling me about the picture. I did not know it was copyrighted.

      I found the image on another site where a copyright was not mentioned. The notice at the bottom of the “salt” page indicates that the watermark will be removed for those who purchase the image.

      So, apparently, I found the image that was purchased on a site somewhere, and they did not indicate it was a purchased image. There was no reference to the artists’ site, which is what I would do, to indicate the source of the picture.

      I have just contacted them, and I am waiting for a response. If I do not get permission, I will have to remove the image.

      Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I am willing to comply with GoodSalt to present this picture.

  85. Read Autobiography of a Yogi and The Second Coming Of Christ by Paramahansa Yogananda. God Bless.

  86. Marianne;
    As you know I don’t like date setting, but I thought this was interesting. (I just don’t want people to stop believing.) He’s predicted the rapture is going to happen before the end of this year. Everyone who does this gives good reasons for why they believe so.

    Another link gives good reasons Hanukkah might be the time.

    I guess I have something to look forward to this Hanukkah starting next week on December 1st.

    http://prophecyforum.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html

    Remember that Peter in Acts 2:17-21, when speaking to the Jews in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost [Acts 2:5; 2:14; 2:22; 2:36; 2:39(a)], and transliterating from Joel’s prophecy, clearly stated, “I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams…..” Both the context and the wording used here makes it clear that this statement is speaking of the Jewish people. This cannot be denied by anyone who understands the grammatical construction of sentences and has a real desire to “rightly divide the Word of truth,” 2 Timothy 2:15. It clearly states that in these “last days” Jews would be given prophecies, would see visions, and dream dreams. I am aware that many people today claim they have been given these “gifts,” but it is very obvious that some making the claim have and some haven’t. 1 John 4:1-3 is still in the Bible! However, when I run across a Jew today who claims to have been given a prophecy or a vision or a dream, I pay a good bit more attention to their claim than I do that of Gentiles making a similar claim. Without apology to anyone!

    Then in view of this inspired prophecy given by Peter, I think it is highly significant that…….

    In 1217 the Jewish Rabbi Judah Ben Samuel prophesied that the Ottoman Turks would rule over the holy city of Jerusalem for eight Jubilees. A Jubilee is a period of 50 years according to Leviticus 25:8-13. Eight Jubilees would then be 400 years. Sure enough, 300 years later in 1517 the Ottoman Turks seized control of the city of Jerusalem and ruled over it for the next 400 years. They were finally driven out of the city and the holy land in 1917 by the Allied forces under the command of General George Allenby. The Rabbi’s prophecy about the 400 years was fulfilled exactly to the year.

    The Rabbi had also prophesied that during the ninth Jubilee Jerusalem would be a “no-man’s land.” This is exactly what happened from 1917 to 1967, due to the fact that the holy land was placed under British Mandate in 1917 by the League of Nations and literally “belonged” to no nation. Even after Israel’s war of independence in 1948-49 Jerusalem was still divided by a strip of land running right through the heart of the city, with Jordan controlling the eastern part of the city and Israel controlling the western part of the city. That strip of land was considered and even called “no-man’s land” by both the Israelis and the Jordanians. Anyone even stepping into that strip would be shot down. I lived during that period of time and well remember the reports in the newspapers and shown on TV about the division of Jerusalem. It was not until the Six Day War in 1967 when the entire west bank of the holy land was conquered by the Israeli army that the whole city of Jerusalem passed back into the possession of Israel. So once again the prophecy made by the Rabbi 750 years previously was fulfilled to the letter.

    But that is still not the end of the matter. The Rabbi also prophesied that during the 10th Jubilee Jerusalem would be under the control of the Jews and the Messianic “end times” would begin. The 10th Jubilee began in 1967 and will be concluded in 2017. The Rabbi’s prophecy has been fulfilled to the letter right up to this present day. There is then no Scriptural reason to believe it will not continue to be fulfilled exactly as it was given, until the conclusion of the seven year Tribulation in 2017. This then means that the pre-tribulation resurrection and rapture of New Testament believers will occur this very year; 2010, and that the Messiah and Savior of Israel will return and establish His Millennial Kingdom in 2017, again fulfilling to the letter the Rabbi’s prophecy.

    Glory to God! Hallelujah! Praise the Lord! Jesus is coming for His people VERY SOON! Praise the God of glory! Thank God for the “blessed hope.”

    But this still isn’t the whole prophetic picture. During the 18th century [the 1700's] Rabbi Vilna Gaon prophesied that the Hurva Synagogue in Jerusalem, probably the most magnificent Jewish Synagogue in the entire world, would be destroyed and rebuilt twice, destroyed yet again and built a third time. He prophesied that when it was rebuilt the third time, then construction would begin on the [third… ?] Jewish Temple.

    The Hurva Synagogue was first destroyed by the Muslims shortly after it was originally built. A hundred years later it was rebuilt a second time. Then it was destroyed for the second time by the Jordanian army during Israel’s war of independence in 1948-49. It lay in ruins until 2001! That year the Israeli government and the Jewish people in Israel began rebuilding it again. Now here is the fascinating relation to end-time Bible prophecy…….

    The Hurva Synagogue has just been completed, and is scheduled to be dedicated and officially opened in a grand ceremony in Jerusalem on March 15, 2010. Significantly, the Jewish Rabbinate in Jerusalem has already announced that the plans for rebuilding the Jewish Temple will be presented to the nation of Israel and the Jewish people on March 16, 2010. The Rabbi’s prophecy wins again!

    Glory to God! Thank you Lord Jesus! Praise the Lord! Hallelujah! O glory be to God! Our Lord’s coming for His people is right at the door! Read Revelation 3:8.

    Dear brother and dear readers, it is time for people to GET READY OR GET LEFT! Read John 3:3-7, 3:16, 3:36, 5:24, 14:6, Acts 4:12, 16:30-31, and Romans 10:8-13. DO IT TODAY! Tomorrow may be too late! 2 Corinthians 6:1-2. Then bow your head and your heart before the Lord and ask the Lord Jesus Christ to come into your heart and grant you true repentance and save you, cleanse you, and make you one of His children. The ONLY way anyone is ever “accounted worthy” is to have the “righteousness of Christ” imputed to you. Compare Luke 21:36 with 20:35-36, and then carefully read Romans 4:1-25.

    Any reader who needs spiritual help is urged to contact me or some other true believer in whom you have real confidence. I will count it a blessing to answer your questions, study the Word with you, pray with you, and do whatever I can to help you find salvation in Christ, or the assurance and peace that the Lord wants to give to all of His people. May God grant you His GRACE is my prayer for you.

    Dear brother, I hope this answers your questions and gives you additional spiritual insight. Please feel free to email or write to me anytime. My greatest blessing is to be used of the Lord to minister His Word to His people, and to the lost who are seeking Him for salvation. Please keep me in your prayers. God bless you.

    Pastor F. M. Riley

    http://2010rapture.org/gestation.html

    A Possible Gestation/Tribulation Parallel

    The Time of Jacob’s Trouble, the 70th Week of Daniel, or the Tribulation is equated with the birthing process. It is the time of travail. The countdown will begin when the Church is removed and the final seven years begin. As has been said here previously, it now looks like the 70th Week runs from Hanukkah 2010 to Day 1290 in 2017. This still allows 2,520 days and allows for 1,260, 1,290, and 1,135 days to fit as previously figured to land on the Day of Atonement, Heshvan 10, and the second day of Hanukkah respectively in 2017.

    What is interesting about the potential start time of Hanukkah and then the future fulfillment of the Fall Feasts, is that Jesus was also conceived and birthed on Hanukkah and the Feast of Tabernacles respectively. In a sense then His gestational period matches the sequence of dates over seven years. Then can it be said that His birthing process was set to match what is to come? It would sure look like this was the pattern.

    But in a sense there are two countdowns. The other countdown begins when the signs Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 began to occur. It is most interesting that world war was one of those signs. The two days of importance were its beginning on the 9th of Av 1914 and the surrender of Jerusalem on Hanukkah 1917. From the Hanukkah 1917 date it appears that it is 100 years until Hanukkah 2017 and the fulfillment of Day 1,135. It would then seem that both start dates in discussion here (1917 & 2010) are both on Hanukkah. Hanukkah 2010 may prove to be the start of the final seven years in the countdown. Hanukkah is the time of Messiah’s conception and then the time to start the travail–both start times then at 100 years and at seven years.

    http://2010rapture.org/tevet1.html

    Hanukkah 2010 and Solving Daniel’s 1290 Days

    n the Book of Daniel there is no mention of 1,260 days, that only occurs in the Book of Revelation. If all one looked at was the Book of Daniel to draw conclusions, which is the proper step before jumping to a systematic theology, then the drawing of the 70th Week would look askew to the modern well accepted paradigm. Daniel 12 mentions a time, times, and half a time, but the day counts are listed as 1,290 and 1,335 days–not 1,260 days. The length of of the Great Tribulation is 1,290 days with an additional 45 days (day 1,335) that if reached will be a great blessing. So the proper understanding of Daniel would be as follows:

    Therefore, the mid-point of the 70th Week would be shifted by 30 days if one follows only the Book of Daniel. Therefore, the period of 1,260 days as found in the Book of Revelation when Israel is preserved in exile, does begin at the point of the Abomination, but it does not terminate on the conclusion of the 70th Week. In fact there may be other separate periods of 1,260 days, such as with the two witnesses since that is indeed hard to pin down. However, the fact that 1,260 days ends 30 days before the ending of the 70th Week solves other riddles as well.

    One riddle is when Christ speaks that the days must be cut short, yet how can one alter the clearly inspired day counts? If they are shortened it makes the Word null. But with day 1,260 from the Abomination resulting in the deliverance by Messiah the Prince so that all Israel is saved, He has in effect cut the days short of the Great Tribulation that are laid out as 1,290 days. The 30 days that remain are fore judgment and purification to prepare for the official ending of the 70 Weeks and their stated purpose.

    Therefore, this keeps intact the dates that had originally been suggested. Christ returns during the Fall Feasts with day 1,260 being the Day of Atonement 2017. Day 1,290 would be the second observation of Atonement and the anniversary day of Noah’s sealing in the Ark–Heshvan 10. Day 1,290 completes the 70th Week. Then 45 days later remains Kislev 26 and the anniversary ending day of the 40 days and 40 nights of rain in Noah’s Flood. This is the second day of Hanukkah and the eve on which begins the third day that is the gift giving day.

    So with this adjustment the front end of the 70th week moves back 30 days. Counting 2,520 days back from Heshvan 10, 2017 (October 30) will result in Day One as being December 7, 2010. This is the sixth day of Hanukkah. December 8th is the scheduled day of the new moon in both camps. But with slight calendar variations it may be best to consider Day One as either December 7 or 8. Call this “new moon complications”, but if we are Raptured on the new moon, that day would basically be Tevet 1 and day 7 of Hanukkah. Either way look for that time from December 7-8.

    The adjustment of 30 days also does not affect the original theory here that the Abomination of Desolation would occur on Firstfruits 2014 (Sunday April 20). All of the calculations then are still accurate from 2014 on, if this adjustment is the missing piece to the puzzle. Some of the other dates and discoveries of the past few months also seem to coincide with Hanukkah 2010 (keep reading below).

    One day count example is the 8.8 Concepcíon Chile earthquake. From and including Feb 27, 2010 until December 3, 2010 is 280 days or 40 weeks–the human gestation period. This would be Kislev 26. This corresponds to day 40 of the 40 days and nights of rain in the Flood. It is also the day General Allenby walked into Israel without a shot being fired in 1917 and it looks to be the day, seven Hebrew years later from Kislev 26, 2010, that would equate to day 1335–Kislev 26 (December 14, 2010). 280 is 40 times 7. Those numbers here are duplicated quite nicely.

    This then brings up Oct 18, 2010 and the great solar filament day. It was Heshvan 10. The day that Noah was sealed in the Ark. 7 Hebrew years earlier in 2003 there were the massive solar flares that would have wiped out those on the surface of the earth. That was also Heshvan 10. Heshvan 10, 2010 is also seven Hebrew years prior to Heshvan 10, 2017–which would be day 1290 and now the correct endpoint for the 70th Week. But Heshvan 10, 2010 was also 40 weeks from the 7.0 Port-au-Prince Haiti earthquake. Again more sevens, forties and gestational periods. After all, the coming Tribulation is a term for the labors of child birth.

    Also it must be remembered that this day of October 18, 2010 had Comet Hartley in the same position as Comet McNaught was in 120 earlier on the Summer Solstice of June 21. The was also the largest gamma ray burst ever observed that coincided with June 21, 2010.

    Heshvan 10, 2010 was also the day that ended 120 x 120 days plus 12 x 120 days from the taking of the Temple Mount in the Six-Day War. This has been discussed at length. Both sections coincided with significant Flood anniversary days in 2006 and here in 2010. From Heshvan 10 (October 18), 2010 another 50 days will end at the close of December 7, 2010.

    Other interesting counts are from Elul 1 (August 11), 2010. 2007 360-day years from Pentecost AD 32 would end on August 20, 2010. The next day of Elul 1 is the 40-day Season of repentance. If we count Elul 1 and continue with a total of 120 days, the count will end at December 8, 2010. Yes, similar numbers again.

    There were also the three solar eclipses on Av 1 in 2008, 2009, and 2010. This has made many curious. The 2010 eclipse was poised right over Easter “Firstfruits” Island. This was on July 11, 2010. If we count this day and go forward a total of 150 days, it will likewise come to the close of December 7, 2010–Hanukkah again. Why this is interesting is that Noah’s Ark came to rest on the 17th day of the seventh month–150 days after the Flood. Adjusting the calendars, that day corresponds to the day Christ was raised from the dead–Firstfruits. It does seem to get a little thick then, doesn’t it?

    Is there any more items to glean? Stay tuned. More people will probably soon find many other details…

    And not to forget. Hanukkah is the end of the olive harvest and the time of the miraculous oil and lampstand that began this Feast of Dedication. Was not the Church also described as the Seven Lampstands? The new moon day of Tevet 1 and the seventh day of Hanukkah might be a good picture of the removal of the Seven Churches/Lampstands.

    Other Hanukkah Coincidences

    Gavin L. e-mailed that Esther was married to the King of Persia on Tevet 1. Therefore, could the Bride’s ending day match Esther’s where our beginning day was Pentecost and the kinsmen redeemer parallel with the book and person of Ruth? More info here.

    Also discussed is that Enoch and Hanukkah are related in their root words. Tradition points to Enoch being raptured on Pentecost, but could the names hint to Hanukkah?

    Zola Levitt has an amazing parallel of human gestation to the Hebrew year. All of the important development days coincide to significant days on the Hebrew Calendar with the birth and circumcision book-ending the 8-day festival of Hanukkah.

    Besides the earthquakes listed above or in other articles here, the 7.3 Vanuatu earthquake on August 10, 2010 (the day before Elul 1 and completing 2,007 360-day years since Pentecost) is 120 days back from December 7, 2010. There was also another 7.2 Vanuatu earthquake on May 27, 2010 spacing 74 days between the quakes. The number 74 is the phi (golden proportion) number of 120.

    As the 8.8 Concepcíon earthquake is 280 days until Kislev 26, the 7.7 Indonesian earthquake is 40 days until Kislev 26. The Indonesian earthquake was on October 25, 2010, which was Heshvan 17 and the day that began 40 days and 40 nights of rain in the Flood.

  87. I guess it should of been on this post: http://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/70-years-and-the-last-jubilee/

  88. Great site….been studying myself for years now….many of my numbers are surprisingly close to yours…though I’m curious as to know who are the bible mentioned so “called jews” ?

    • hi Jewel

      The definition of “Jew” depends on the context of the bible passage.

      It can mean either national Israel or the believers in Jesus.

  89. Thank you Marianne for this site and your ministry. I am blessed with what you and others have to say about our Lord and these exciting times.

    • hi Tracy

      You are welcome. It is a blessing in itself to wake up each day and have the Messiah and the Divine Plan on my mind. May Jesus come soon!

  90. Marianne,

    Check out this website to see the amazing mathematical “proof” from the gematria of the hebrew in the Torah to Christ (Messiah) coming in 2018 (5778 on Hebrew Calendar)

    http://kabbalahsecrets.com/?page_id=1300

  91. When is the next Jubilee year?

    http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-is-the-next-Jubilee-year.htm

    In short, the answer to your question is that the Jubilee year is currently not observed or commemorated. The reasons for this are complex and involve many different opinions on the matter. In the following lines I will attempt to briefly relay the relevant issues.

    According to Biblical law, the Jubilee is only observed when all Twelve Tribes of the Jewish nation are living in Israel, as is learned from the verse.1 “And you shall sanctify the fiftieth year, and proclaim freedom throughout the land for all who live on it,” which implies that the Jubilee is only sanctified when “all who live on it” — meaning all who are meant to be living there — are in the Land of Israel. Furthermore, the Jubilee is only observed when every tribe is living in the specific part of the land which was it was allotted when the Land of Israel was divided. However, some are of the opinion that the Jubilee is observed as long as there is a partial representation of each tribe, even if most of the tribe is not in Israel.

    In the 6th century BCE, the Assyrians conquered the Northern Kingdom of Israel and sent the majority of its population into exile. Those who were deported are historically known as the Ten Lost Tribes.

    We are certain that before that point in time the Jubilee was regularly observed. We also know that with the destruction of the Second Temple and the disbandment of the Sanhedrin (Supreme Rabbinical Court) we ceased to mark the Jubilee year in any form. The periods in question are the remaining years between the exile of the Ten Tribes and the destruction of the First Temple, and the Second Temple Era.

    According to the opinion that partial representation of each tribe is sufficient to fulfill the scriptural requirement, biblically mandated Jubilees were fully observed throughout the periods in question, because there remained a small representation of each tribe in Israel.

    However, according to the first opinion mentioned above, with the exile of the Northern Kingdom the required condition for the Jubilee to be sanctified was lost. Thus, the last time there was a Biblical requirement to observe the Jubilee was about 150 years before the destruction of the First Temple.

    The question remains, however, whether according to this opinion Jubilees years were designated or observed during this time due to rabbinic injunction. This is the subject of debate amongst the Sages.2

    As mentioned above, though, today the Jubilee year is neither designated nor observed.3

    And now for the answer to your question: “When is the next Jubilee year?”

    We eagerly await the day when G‑d will bring our entire nation back to our homeland — including the ten “lost” tribes — and we will again resume observing the Jubilee year, as well as so many other mitzvot which we are incapable of performing until that awaited day.4

    Rabbi Baruch S. Davidson

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    FOOTNOTES
    1.

    Leviticus 25:10.
    2.

    The reasons behind this debate: Although there was no Biblical requirement to observe the Jubilee year after the Ten Tribes were exiled, the observance of the shmitah (Sabbatical year) remained a Biblical obligation. The integrity of the seven-year Sabbatical cycle depended on the larger fifty-year cycle — after completing seven seven-year cycles, a one year hiatus was taken before the new cycle began (on the 51st year). It was thus necessary to designate a (non-observed) fiftieth “Jubilee” year. Others explain that the sages also instituted the (partial) observance of the laws of Jubilee to commemorate the Biblical mitzvah.
    However, there is also an opinion in the Talmud that the Jubilee is not an “in between cycles year,” rather it is the first of the next 49-year cycle, and thus not designating it would not impact the calculation of the Sabbatical cycles. This opinion also maintains that the Sages never instituted the Jubilee year as a commemoration.
    3.

    Although the laws of shemitah are observed in Israel to this very day, the Jubilee year is not designated or observed. There are many reasons for this. Some of them: a) The Jubilee only affected the shemitah cycle when the shemitah was established and declared by the Sanhedrin, as opposed to today when it is automatically programmed into the perpetual Jewish calendar. b) The observance of shmitah today is only a rabbinic decree, and therefore the Jubilee year does not affect its cycle. c) No commemoration is in order when there is no Sanhedrin, whose participation in the declaration of the Jubilee year was integral. In fact, it was the Sanhedrin’s blast of the shofar (ram’s horn) on Yom Kippur which signaled the entry of the Jubilee year.
    4.

    The information in this response is taken from Encyclopedia Talmudit vol. XXII, “Yovel” entry.

  92. are you following any of the news about May 21, 2011 as His Return?

    This site can guide you to the studies and the details.
    may212011.com

    • k, please don’t be dismayed.
      Though it would be wonderful if it were true.
      May 21st is from Harold Camping of Family Radio.

      And the formula that he utilized to arrive at this date is flawed.
      It should be noted that Harold Camping previously predicted that Jesus would come back in 1994. Obviously, Camping was wrong. This should give us yet another reason to doubt the validity of his prediction of May 21, 2011.

      • I have a feeling this is going to be the topic of discussion for the next couple of days, Till the 22nd anyway.
        It should be a good time to reach people with the Gospel.

  93. I can honestly say it will not be May 21, 2011 because Feast of Trumpets/Rosh Hashanah is on Sept 29, 2011. :)

    Jesus comes with a SHOUT and THE TRUMPET and on the LAST TRUMP which is known as……wait for it…….FEAST OF TRUMPETS, ta da!! :) LOL

  94. These are my personal observations and calculatins. Jesus was born on September 29 3-4 BC on Rosh Hashanah. The next time Rosh Hashanah comes on the 29th of September is THIS YEAR. The next time Rosh Hashanah occurs on the 29th is not for another 50 years. The Rapture will happen on Rosh Hashanah. What better time is it then the DAY Jesus was born. The Second Coming will occur on a Jubilee year. The next Jubilee year is 2018. If Jesus comes THIS year on Rosh Hashanah that would give us 7 years of Tribulation before the Second Coming in 2018. So I believe that Jesus MAY come THIS year on Sept 29, 2011. I call myself a date setter simply because I love the Lord and want to be with him. If it happens this year that would be AWESOME. If not I know he WILL COME sooner or later.

    • hi carol

      Interesting stuff. :)

    • Yeah Carol!!

      I am so glad that someone else “gets it” :)

      Although I did understand that Yeshua was born on Sukkot….15 Tishri……but even so, Yeshua can come any year now and after learning about the Feasts of the Lord, I now expect to WATCH for Him on Rosh Hashanah aka Feast of Trumpets….the Feast that is KNOWN as the “day and hour no one knows” (for those who don’t understand what we are talking about) :)

  95. I myself believe in the return of the return of my Lord and Saviour Jesus-Christ. But let’s not be wise on our eyes, let’s not go beyond what is written specially from the Lord Himself, not to contradict Him. If He’s our Lord it is sufficient to remain within the limit of being a servant. For it is written:

    Luk 6:40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.
    If the Lord said Himself in the book of Matthew 24:36:
    But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
    Mat 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    and again:

    Mat 24:23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
    Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    Mat 24:25 Behold, I have told you before.
    Mat 24:26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.

    Let’s follow the sound advice of Apostle Paul which said:
    2Co 10:13 But we will not boast of things without our measure, but according to the measure of the rule which God hath distributed to us, a measure to reach even unto you.

    Yes, he surely stay within its limits, concerning the coming of the Lord, when he wrote:

    1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
    1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
    1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

    and again:

    2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
    2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

    • hi Paul

      I agree that we should not set dates. But I think what you see is the general excitement that we are in the last days, and believers are becoming watchful. They see events that line up with prophecy, and they know the time is “soon.” So, they dwell upon the Word of God, seeking deeper meanings.

      I think this sort of watchfulness can produce different emotions: happiness in his coming, but concern for the salvation of others. It makes us more diligent in prayer and personal efforts to reach out and educate others.

      But you are right, we should not over extend ourselves and come to wrong conclusions, then pass this disinformation to others. This would produce a bad witness, just as in the recent “May 21, 2011 rapture” fiasco.

    • Hi Paul,

      May I make a suggestion for you? Perhaps you, (and others) may want to visit the “rapture” page that Marianne has so graciously posted for us all, and read some of its content.

      I believe that like so many, (myself included in the past) have taken the word “elect” in Matthew 24 out of context, as being representative of that of the “church” which didn’t even exist yet. And did not come to fruition until some 50 plus days later on Shavuot, when the promise of the Spirit was given.

      I believe, and have provided commentary regarding this, that Yeshua was answering the disciples questions specifically, and that the word “elect” here is in actuality, referring to that of Israel and the Jewish people.

      Nonetheless, it is an interesting possibility, and I believe it personally to be true.

      I also believe that not “all” who profess to being Christians, will be included within this rapture event either. It will only consist of the “wise” that Yeshua speaks about in the parable of the Ten Virgins. (Matthew 25:1-13) and in adding further clarification, the parable of “the Talents” verses 14-30.

      And that it is in verse 31, that Yeshua now changes the topic from regarding those that will be considered “worthy” to escape, (Luke 21:36) and participate within the rapture, to that of what will occur at His actual “second coming” and when the millennial kingdom will be established.

      Be Blessed

  96. Hi Carol,
    It is interesting that you believe that the rapture will occur this September!
    Rev.3:3. Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
    Have you considered what Daniel has prophesied?
    Dan.11:33. And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, [many] days.
    40. And at the TIME OF THE END shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
    41. He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
    THE FOLLOWING is interesting!
    Dan.11:42. He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
    43. But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [shall be] at his steps.

    This last verse mentions the THREE locations that are in the process of CIVIL WAR, and one would THINK that ETHIOPIA is NOT one of the THREE, but if you check the history of YEMEN … which was in the time of DANIEL – ~ 600BC, a part of ETHIOPIA!
    Mubarak has stepped down, and the leader of YEMEN (Ethiopia in Daniels time?) has departed to have medical attention as a result from an attack on him, and we only need to see Gadaffy (sic) step down. We could see the following:-
    Dan.11:44. But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
    45. And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.

    1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a TIME OF TROUBLE, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

    The scriptures were not divided into chapters and verses before the Spanish Monk divided it a few centuries ago so we could read Daniel chapter 11:45 and Daniel 12:1 being connected.

    We can expect Daniel 11:44 being fulfilled very soon, before we see the 2,300 evenings and mornings of TIME OF TROUBLE, such as NEVER WAS!
    Daniel 8:13 How long [shall be] the vision [concerning] the daily [sacrifice], and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
    14. And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
    Dan.8:17… Understand, O son of man: for AT THE TIME OF THE END [shall be] the vision.
    [NB. Look up the original words for "Sanctuary" and "Cleansed" is the same as the words or meaning of the words "SAINT" and "CLEANSED".
    The 2300days were actually 2300 Evenings and Mornings as mentioned in GENESIS, where Yahweh says "Evening and Morning ... were the (First, ... Sixth) day.
    1x Evening + 1x Morning (2x) = 1 DAY therefore we have 1,150 days in 2,300 E+M.]

    Dan.8:26. And the vision of the EVENING and MORNING which was told [is] true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it [shall be] for many days.

  97. What I want to correct here, is where I said “Sanctuary” “Cleansed” . The original words also means in today’s language – “Saint be Justified”.
    Where it says in Dan.8:13 … give BOTH the SANCTUARY and the HOST… it should read “SAINT and HOST”. In other words the SAINT and MULTITUDE.
    Rev.7:9. After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

    (1) We have the “RAPTURE” of the 144,000 – then 1,150 days Tribulation, then Main harvest and Resurrection.
    (2) We have the Wedding feast of the Bride/5-wise virgins … then at the Resurrection, the CORONATION with the Host / Multitude.
    (3) In Jesus’ Ministry He turned WATER to WINE (First Public function with family) and “Palm Sunday” (as Last Public function with Large Multitude) before His Resurrection.

    Matt.24:21. For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
    22. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the ELECT’S sake those days shall be shortened.

    The ELECT are the CHOSEN, or, the BRIDE “Woman” who have 1335 days to be taken away from the DEVIL. [First fruits144,000 virgins]
    Rev.12:1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
    2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
    14. And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, FROM THE FACE of the serpent.
    The WOMAN is “Expecting” and WAITING, or …PREGNANT (Travailing in birth).
    Dan.12:12. Blessed [is] he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

    Rev.7:3. Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.
    4. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: [and there were] sealed an hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

    Rev.14:3. And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred [and] forty [and] four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.
    4. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, [being] the first fruits unto God and to the Lamb.

    These are taken to the Lord’s HOUSE as in John 14:1-4. These are also taken before the “Beast” will “MARK” everyone on the planet.
    Rev.13:16. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
    6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM THAT DWELL IN heaven.

    The MAIN harvest (as opposed to the earlier first fruits harvest) will occur at the resurrection. There are the “Foolish virgins” who go through this time of trouble, plus those “Fence sitters”, new converts and the resurrected ones.
    Rev.20:4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were BEHEADED for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which HAD NOT worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    The last 7 years has 42 Months …THEN 1,260 Days (Rev.11:3)
    144,000 wait 1335 days and are Down trodden, then have Rapture.
    The 2 witnesses (Moses & Elijah Mal.4:4,5) arrive ~ 5 Months before Rapture.
    (Rev.9:5, 10) – Description of Army Helicopters.

    Mal.4:4. Remember ye the law of Moses my servant, which I commanded unto him in Horeb for all Israel, [with] the statutes and judgments.
    5. Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD.

    Rev.9:5. And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
    10. And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months.

    The Main “Beast” of Rev.13 with 7 heads /10 horns is the United Nations.
    “7 Heads” = G7 … 10 Horns = 10 Trade divisions of World trade. – depicted in the FIRST digit of the BAR CODE – eg. 0-9 = 10.
    G7 turns to G8 with introduction of Russia as member in the 1990′s.
    Rev.17:11. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

  98. I am not setting dates but pointing out scripture I do know that the LORD showed me back in the late 80’ early 90’s the word Jubile. He did this for a reason. I wrote this in the first part of 2008 after seeking the LORD for wisdom about when the next Jubile would occur

    In reading this you need to understand that when I refer to the Year 2018 as the Jubile Year. I am referring to the period of time beginning the 10th of Tishrei year 5778 (2017 Gregorian)on the Hebrew calendar to the 10th of Tishrei year 5779 on the Hebrew calendar most of which occurs in the year 2018 of the Gregorian calendar. http://www.hebcal.com/converter/

    Jubile is always celebrated on the Tenth day of the Seventh Hebrew Month (Tishrei) (See Leviticus chapter 25)

    September 18 2010 = 10 Tishrei 5771 * Year 1 Tribulation
    to
    October 8 2011 = 10 Tishrei 5772 * Year 2 Tribulation
    to
    September 26 2012 = 10 Tishrei 5773 * Year 3 Tribulation
    to
    September 14 2013 = 10 Tishrei 5774 * Year 4 Tribulation
    to
    October 4 2014 = 10 Tishrei 5775 * Year 5 Tribulation
    to
    September 23 2015 = 10 Tishrei 5776 * Year 6 Tribulation
    to
    October 12 2016 = 10 Tishrei 5777 * Year 7 Tribulation
    to
    September 30 2017 = 10 Tishrei 5778 * Begins:
    Last Jubile Year / 1000
    to year Reign of Christ
    September 19 2018 = 10 Tishrei 5779

    After the 1000 year reign of Christ we come to the year 6778 on the Hebrew calendar, Which doesn’t equal 7000 years so why doesn’t this end up being 7000 years on the Hebrew calendar? Because there is more to come.

    Revelation 20:7 7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
    8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
    9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
    10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

    How long will Satan be loosed? A little season.

    Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
    2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
    3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

    How Long is a season? It can be considered a fourth of a period of time. So if you are talking about 1000 year periods a season would be 250 years. But this says a short season. Could this short season be 222 years?

    6778 years + 222 years = 7000 years to completion

    You will need to read all the way to the end to see why I believe that 10 Tishrei 5778 is the last Jubile. It has to do with the Temple Mount, the year 1967/1968 and the Six Day War. Also read about the 1917 Balfour agreement it can be Found on the internet this occurred 50 years earlier Notice the date involves another 50 year period.

    The following will explain the 2300 Days/Yrs found in Daniel chapter 8.

    Daniel Chapter 8
    13) Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
    14) And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
    Gabriel comforts Daniel and interprets the vision
    15) And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
    16) And I heard a man’s voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision.
    17) So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
    18) Now as he was speaking with me, I was in a deep sleep on my face toward the ground: but he touched me, and set me upright.
    19) And he said, Behold, I will make thee know what shall be in the last end of the indignation: for at the time appointed the end shall be.
    20) The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia.
    21) And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. (G.R.E. Alexander the Great the King of Greece defeated Darius III the king of the Medes and Persians in 333 B.C.)
    22) Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.
    (G.R.E. The Diadochi was Made up of Alexander’s Generals and his kingdom was divided up into four main Kingdoms. The Kingdom of Ptolemy I Soter, Kingdom of Cassander, Kingdom of Lysimachus and Kingdom of Seleucus I Nicator)
    23) And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
    (G.R.E. Seleucus Set His Son on his throne in 282 B.C before he went out to battle the next year 281B.C. at which time he was killed)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diadochi#The_Struggle_of_Lysimachus_and_Seleucus.2C_285-281_BC
    (The Struggle of Lysimachus and Seleucus, 285-281 BC
    Although Lysimachus and Pyrrhus had cooperated in driving Antigonus Gonatas from Thessaly and Athens, in the wake of Demetrius’s capture they soon fell out, with Lysimachus driving Pyrrhus from his share of Macedon.
    Dynastic struggles also rent Egypt, where Ptolemy decided to make his younger son Ptolemy Philadelphus his heir rather than the elder, Ptolemy Ceraunus. Ceraunus fled to Seleucus. The eldest Ptolemy died peacefully in his bed in 282 BC, and Philadelphus succeeded him.
    Soon Lysimachus made the fatal mistake of having his son Agathocles murdered at the say-so of his second wife, Arsinoe (282 BC). Agathocles’s widow, Lysandra, fled to Seleucus, who now made war upon Lysimachus. Seleucus, after appointing his son Antiochus ruler of his Asian territories, defeated and killed Lysimachus at the battle of Corupedium in Lydia in 281 BC, but Seleucus did not live to enjoy his triumph for long – he was almost immediately murdered by Ptolemy Ceraunus, for reasons that remain unclear.)

    24) And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
    25) And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
    26) And the vision of the evening and the morning which was told is true: wherefore shut thou up the vision; for it shall be for many days.
    27) And I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king’s business; and I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.
    (G.R.E 2300 days/Years, 282 B.C. + 2018 A.D. = 2300 years)

    The following is a partial explanation of the 70, 69 and 62 weeks/years found in Daniel Chapter 9. This prophecy has a dual meaning and relates to Christ’s first coming and Christ’s second coming. In this I am only dealing with this prophecy as it pertains to his second coming

    Daniel Chapter 9
    20) And whiles I was speaking, and praying, and confessing my sin and the sin of my people Israel, and presenting my supplication before the LORD my God for the holy mountain of my God;
    21) Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
    22) And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel, I am now come forth to give thee skill and understanding.
    23) At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth, and I am come to shew thee; for thou art greatly beloved: therefore understand the matter, and consider the vision.
    24) Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
    (G.R.E. Here are the Seventy Weeks/Years)
    25) Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
    (G.R.E. The Sixty-Nine Weeks/Years)
    26) And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
    (G.R.E. The Sixty-Two Weeks/Years)
    27) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

    1948 Israel becomes a Nation again.
    1948 + 62 = 2010 A.D. Start of seven years
    1948 + 69 = 2017 A.D. End of seven years
    1948 + 70 = 2018 A.D. See Jubile Year

    The following explains the 1290 and 1335 Days/Years found in Daniel chapter 12.

    Daniel Chapter 12
    7) And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
    8) And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
    9) And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
    10) Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
    11) And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
    (G.R.E. This is the 1290 Days/Years)
    12) Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
    (G.R.E. This is the 1335 Days/Years)
    13) But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

    The Mosques on the Temple Mount

    http://www.freeman.org/m_online/oct96/winstonj.htm
    Mohammed died in 632 CE. Following Christian precedent, Moslems built a mosques and shrine on the Temple Mount, where the First and Second Jewish Temples stood, to show religious and secular superiority over the Jews. In 683 CE Caliph al Walid built an al Aqsa mosque (one of many called al Aqsa which mean ‘the farthest’) over a Christian church also built on the Jewish Temple Mount as a mark of supremacy. In 685-705 CE. Calif Abd-Malik of Damascus built the Dome of the Rock. Malik’s plan to acquire political/religious leadership of Islam as Mohammed’s heir failed as the Moslems continued face toward Mecca to pray, rejecting Jerusalem as Mohammed mandated. It was the construction of these buildings, as a sign of conquest in the 7th century that the Palestinians now claim as their third holiest site after Mecca and Medina.

    The El Buraq Myth
    After Mohammed’s death, a myth was created which was rejected by serious Islamic scholars. According to this myth, one night as he slept Mohammed flew on a white horse called el Buraq which had the face and breasts of a woman, the tail of peacock and great wings to the farthest place, al Aqsa, at the edge of Medina. (Al Aqsa in Jerusalem wasn’t built until 683 CE, 51 years after the death of Mohammed in 632 CE) He leaped skyward to Seventh Heaven on el Buraq where Abraham, Isaac, Joseph, Moses and Jesus blessed him as the last prophet of G-d. Ostensibly Mohammed absorbed the older religions of Judaism (The Root) and Christianity. He claimed descendance from the Jewish prophets, as the foundation for the new religion of Islam. This myth of his one second night ride to al Aqsa (where el Buraq was to have left a hoof print in the rock on the Jewish Temple Mount) is the basis for current Moslem Arab claims on the Jewish Temple of Solomon and the city of Jerusalem. As in the case with most religious based myths, the story grew in the retelling, finally to become unquestioned fact.

    http://www.bibletruth.cc/Body_AbominationofDesolation.htm
    The Dome of the Rock fits perfectly the description of “abomination that causes desolation standing in the set-apart place.” But does it fit the time frame? There is a general consensus among historical sources that places the time of the building of the Dome of the Rock at 684 C.E. The construction took about 6 to 7 years.
    (G.R.E. Now There is a general consensus that they really don’t know when the Dome of the Rock was Started. Dates range anywhere from 683 B.C. to 688 B.C. I believe it was started 683 B.C.)

    If I am indeed right then you have:

    683 B.C. + 1335 Days /Years = 2018 A.D.

    So what about the 1290 Days/Years?

    683 B.C. + 1290 Days/Years = 1973 A.D.

    So what is important About 1973 A.D.?

    So why 1290 days then Blessed is he who makes it to the 1335th day?

    It was the Year 1973 in which the Yom Kippur war occurred. It was the largest war that has occurred in Israel since 1948 when they became a nation again.

    The 1973 October war also led to a new phase of political compromises which began shaping the agendas of both the PLO and the Arab states. Recognizing the centrality of the Palestinian cause in the Arab-Israeli conflict, most Arab leaders, including Jordan, wanted the Palestinians, represented by the PLO, to set aside their differences and to “march” with them in the pursuit of a diplomatic settlement that would erase Israel’s record of aggression in previous wars.
    The PLO had, of course, to redefine its strategy and tactics to meet regional and other international changes. It also realized the need to formulate policies to deal with Henry Kissinger’s diplomatic activities and the anticipated Geneva Convention of December 1973. It will be remembered that Kissinger had proposed a bilateral step-by-step plan that presented the PLO leadership with the dilemma of having to choose between maintaining its commitment to its traditional revolutionary policy, or working together with the Arab states in order not to be “shut out” of a settlement that would ignore Palestinian claims.
    As a result, the PLO grew “dangerously dependent” on the Arab states, particularly during the Arab feeling of euphoria after the 1973 war. In 1974, the PLO made its first gesture toward a two-state solution at its 12th PNC meeting in Cairo. Its new program called for the creation of a sulta wataniyeh (national authority) in any part of Palestine to be liberated by armed struggle. It was the direct result of both the 1973 war and the 1974 Rabat Arab Summit Conference which recognized the PLO as “the sole and only representative” of the Palestinian people, in exchange for which the PLO accepted the moderating influence of the Arab states.

    (G.R.E. So from the beginning construction of the Dome Of the Rock Mosque in 683 AD until the Yom Kippur war (began tenth of Tishrei 1973 hence the name Yom Kippur war) in 1973 was 1290 years. Since then Israel has had a lot of suffering at the hand of the PLO and other terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Hezbollah. So blessed is he who will now survive until the 1335th Year (the Jubile Year 2017/2018 AD))

    So how does Jubile tie in with the Last trumpet?

    I hope the rest of this isn’t to confusing but you will see if you read it all that Jubile and the last trump do tie in together.

    Jubile

    JUBILE OLD TESTAMENT
    Lexicon Results for yowbel (Strong’s H3104) Hebrew for H3104 Transliteration yowbel
    Root Word (Etymology) apparently from H2986
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) ram, ram’s horn, trumpet, cornet
    a) Ram (only in combination) 1) ram’s horn, trumpet
    b) Jubilee year (marked by the blowing of cornets)

    Lexicon Results for yabal (Strong’s H2986) Hebrew for H2986 Transliteration yabal
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to bring, lead, carry, conduct, bear along
    a) (Hiphil) 1) to bear along; bring 2) to carry away, lead away 3) to lead, conduct
    b) (Hophal) 1) to be borne along 2) to be borne (to the grave) 3) to be brought, be led, be conducted

    TRUMPET OLD TESTAMENT

    Lexicon Results for showphar (Strong’s H7782) Hebrew for H7782 Transliteration showphar
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) horn, ram’s horn

    Possession OLD TESTAMENT
    Lexicon Results for aḥuzzâ (Strong’s Number: 272:) Hebrew for‎ Transliteration: ʾaḥuzzâ
    Root: from passive participle from
    Part of speech feminine passive participle from (‘achaz); something seized, i.e. a possession (especially of land):- possession.

    Leviticus Chapter 25
    8) And thou shalt number seven sabbaths of years unto thee, seven times seven years; and the space of the seven sabbaths of years shall be unto thee forty and nine years.
    9) Then shalt thou cause the trumpet of the Jubile to sound on the tenth [day] of the seventh month, in the Day of Atonement shall ye make the trumpet sound throughout all your land.
    10) And ye shall hallow the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout [all] the land unto all the inhabitants thereof: it shall be a jubile unto you; and ye shall return every man unto his possession, and ye shall return every man unto his family.
    11) A jubile shall that fiftieth year be unto you: ye shall not sow, neither reap that which groweth of itself in it, nor gather [the grapes] in it of thy vine undressed.
    12) For it [is] the jubile; it shall be holy unto you: ye shall eat the increase thereof out of the field.
    13) In the year of this jubile ye shall return every man unto his possession.
    14) And if thou sell ought unto thy neighbour, or buyest [ought] of thy neighbour’s hand, ye shall not oppress one another:
    15) According to the number of years after the Jubile thou shalt buy of thy neighbour, [and] according unto the number of years of the fruits he shall sell unto thee:
    16) According to the multitude of years thou shalt increase the price thereof, and according to the fewness of years thou shalt diminish the price of it: for [according] to the number [of the years] of the fruits doth he sell unto thee.
    17) Ye shall not therefore oppress one another; but thou shalt fear thy God: for I [am] the LORD your God.
    (G.R.E. Continued verse 47)
    47) And if a sojourner or stranger wax rich by thee, and thy brother [that dwelleth] by him wax poor, and sell himself unto the stranger [or] sojourner by thee, or to the stock of the stranger’s family:
    48) After that he is sold he may be redeemed again; one of his brethren may redeem him:
    49) Either his uncle, or his uncle’s son, may redeem him, or [any] that is nigh of kin unto him of his family may redeem him; or if he be able, he may redeem himself.
    50) And he shall reckon with him that bought him from the year that he was sold to him unto the year of Jubile: and the price of his sale shall be according unto the number of years, according to the time of an hired servant shall it be with him.
    51) If [there be] yet many years [behind], according unto them he shall give again the price of his redemption out of the money that he was bought for.
    52) And if there remain but few years unto the year of Jubile, then he shall count with him, [and] according unto his years shall he give him again the price of his redemption.
    53) [And] as a yearly hired servant shall he be with him: [and the other] shall not rule with rigour over him in thy sight.
    54) And if he be not redeemed in these [years], then he shall go out in the year of jubile, [both] he, and his children with him.
    55) For unto me the children of Israel [are] servants; they [are] my servants whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.

    TRUMPET, TRUMP NEW TESTAMENT

    Lexicon Results for salpigx (Strong’s G4536) Greek for G4536 Transliteration salpigx
    Root Word (Etymology) perhaps from G4535 (through the idea of quavering or reverberation)
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) a trumpet

    Lexicon Results for salos (Strong’s G4535) Greek for G4535 Transliteration salos
    Root Word (Etymology) probably from the base of G4525
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) the tossing or swell of the sea

    Lexicon Results for sain’ (Strong’s G4525) Greek for G4525
    Transliteration sain’
    Root Word (Etymology) akin to G4579
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to wag the tail a) of dogs
    2) metaph. a) To flatter, fawn upon b) to move (the mind of one)
    1) Agreeably 2) to agitate, disturb, trouble

    Lexicon Results for sei’ (Strong’s G4579) Greek for G4579 Transliteration sei’
    Root Word (Etymology) apparently a primary verb
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to shake, agitate, cause to tremble
    a) of men, to be thrown into a tremor, to quake for fear b) metaph. to agitate the mind

    Matthew Chapter 24
    29) Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
    30) And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
    31) And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

    1 Corinthians Chapter 15
    The Christian’s victory over death, through Christ
    51) Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
    52) In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
    53) For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
    54) So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

    CAUGHT UP NEW TESTAMENT

    Lexicon Results for harpaz (Strong’s G726) Greek for G726 Transliteration harpaz
    Root Word (Etymology) from a derivative of G138
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to seize, carry off by force
    2) to seize on, claim for one’s self eagerly
    3) to snatch out or away

    Lexicon Results for haire’ (Strong’s G138) Greek for G138 Transliteration haire’
    Root Word (Etymology) probably akin to G142
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to take for oneself, to prefer, choose 2) to choose by vote, elect to office

    Lexicon Results for air’ (Strong’s G142) Greek for G142 Transliteration hir’
    Root Word (Etymology) a primary root
    Outline of Biblical Usage 1) to raise up, elevate, lift up
    a) to raise from the ground, take up: stones b) to raise upwards, elevate, lift up: the hand c) to draw up: a fish
    2) to take upon one’s self and carry what has been raised up, to bear
    3) to bear away what has been raised, carry off
    a) to move from its place b) to take off or away what is attached to anything c) to remove d) to carry off, carry away with one
    e) to appropriate what is taken f) to take away from another what is his or what is committed to him, to take by force
    g) to take and apply to any use h) to take from among the living, either by a natural death, or by violence
    i) cause to cease

    1 Thessalonians Chapter 4
    15) For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive [and] remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
    16) For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
    17) Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
    18) Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

    http://judaism.about.com/library/3_askrabbi_o/bl_simmons_jubilee.htm
    Ask Rabbi Simmons

    Jubilee

    Question: I would appreciate if you would explain the Jubilee to me, and also when it occurs.

    Answer:

    It is written in the Torah, “You shall sanctify the 50th year and proclaim freedom throughout the land for all its inhabitants; it shall be the Jubilee year for you, you shall return each person to his ancestral heritage and you shall return each to his family. It shall be a Jubilee Year for you – the 50th year – you shall not sow, you shall not harvest its after-growth and you shall not pick what was set aside of it for yourself. For it is a Jubilee Year, it shall be holy to you; from the field you eat its crop.” (Leviticus 25:10-13)

    Basically, these verses indicate that the Jubilee requires all debts between Jews to be annulled. Also, any Jew that sold his or herself into slavery is released, whether they worked the amount of time they promised, or not. Rashi, (11th century France) points out the word Jubilee is related to the Hebrew word for “ram,” alluding to the fact that the Jubilee year is proclaimed by the blast of a ram’s horn! Nachmanides adds that the word Jubilee is also related to the Hebrew word which means “to move around.” Thusly, we are reminded that all Jews who had sold themselves into slavery, or were shackled (so to speak) by debt, were now released from their bonds and were given the freedom TO MOVE AROUND.

    The origination of the counting didn’t actually start at the time the Jews entered into the Land of Israel, but rather after they finished conquering the Land and after apportioning it to each family, which was 1288 BCE. (source: Maimonides – Laws of Shmita and Jubilee 10:2) The first Jubilee was forty-nine years later. The Sanhedrin was in charge of counting the years and ensuring its accuracy. The nation was notified of the Jubilee year’s arrival by the blast of the shofar at the end of Yom Kippur. (Leviticus 25:8 and Numbers 35:4)

    However, the Jubilee year is only celebrated when the majority of Jewish people live in the land of Israel, and since there are so many Jews still in exile, the Jubilee year is not celebrated. Furthermore, since the Holy Temple has been destroyed and the great Sanhedrin dissolved, we have suspended calculating the Jubilee year.

    However, we still blow the Shofar every year after Yom Kippur, even in our times. Why? Because the blow of the Shofar still tells us that we can still be released from our bondage — the bondage of habitual mistakes.

    When a person is careless, and he lets himself repeatedly make the same mistake, he becomes habituated to constantly make that mistake. So to speak, he becomes enslaved to habit. Imagine the cigarette smoker. The first cigarette is a purposeful blunder on the smoker’s part. So too is the second cigarette, maybe even the first pack. But when a person becomes addicted to cigarettes, the cigarette becomes the master, and he becomes their slave.

    On Yom Kippur, we strive to gain control over our habits — symbolized by refraining that day from food and drink. Then, when the Shofar blows at the end of Yom Kippur, it is as if to announce, “All those who were enslaved (to their habits) are now free men!”

    With blessings from Jerusalem,

    Rabbi Shraga Simmons
    Aish.com
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    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/67_War.html

    The Six Day War 1967

    Jerusalem Returned to the Jews

    It took only three days for Israeli forces to defeat the Jordanian legion. On the morning of June 7, 1967 the order was given to recapture the Old City. Israeli paratroopers stormed the city and secured it. Defense Minister Moshe Dayan arrived with Chief of Staff Yitzhak Rabin to formally mark the Jews’ return to their historic capital and their holiest site. At the Western Wall, the IDF’s chaplain, Rabbi Shlomo Goren, blew a shofar to celebrate the event.

    This would make Yom Kippur 1967 to Yom Kippur 1968 a Jubilee year starting sometime in Sept/ Oct 1967 and ending in Sept / Oct 1968

    The Next Jubilee year would start Yom Kippur 2017 to Yom Kippur 2018 a Jubilee year starting sometime in Sept/ Oct 2017 and ending in Sept / Oct 2018

    If you will notice every thing that is written in Daniel 8 and 12 and concerning the Jubile year ends up the same year when a major War has occurred in Israel. Coincidences? I don’t t believe so!

    1948 Israel Arab war * Start of Daniels 70 weeks/Yrs from Daniel chapter 9.
    1967 Six Day war * Jubile Year. Israel takes possession of all it’s former land. The beginning of the 50 year count until the start of the next (Last) Jubile year.
    1973 Yom Kippur war * end of 1290 Days/Yrs from Daniel 12.

    Will Israel again be at war soon? I believe so!

    Cover 2 Cover
    Guy R. Epperson

  99. I think you have done a lot of great leg work and I am reading a lot that agree with your timeline of the Sabbath and Jubilee years. But, I do not agree with the rapture before the last 3 1/2 years. We are going to be here until the day He returns. I firmly believe this and scripture does back this up. We will not join Jesus in the sky until AFTER the dead in Christ shall rise. Take a look at this link, http://www.escapeallthesethings.com, I read the book and it is very insightful.

    I gained some great insight from this as well!! Thanks for studying His word and helping others!!

    • hi Debbie

      I guess I just see it differently. To me, there is a tribulation period (seals), then a wrath period ( trumpets, vials). Jesus would return at the end of the tribulation period, and rescue the saints before the wrath of God is poured out. There is a passage that says we are not appointed unto wrath.

  100. I am a Sabbath Keeper and was lead by the Holy Spirit to seek out knowledge of the Feasts and how they may apply to the end time events, but also how they still apply to us still today! My family and I have been on this quest ever since and we are eager to know more as long as it lines up with scripture. We have found that the Feasts are in practically every book of the Bible and of course, without the knowledge of the history of them, one cannot discipher the scriptures fully. God is so good!

    It has been a lonely journey, though we are comforted by the Holy Spirit daily; but our peers do not acknowledge nor believe that the Feasts are applicable today, nor do they believe there is any likelihood that they apply to end time events. This year is the first year we have been persecuted for our beliefs, yet we will not let go of them, by God’s grace.

    As we continue our quest we seek more knowledge via HIS guidance and yearn to know more, especially about the importance of the Jubilee and when the next one shall be…my calculations take me to 2016…but I am uncertain. Additionally, I want to know more about the New Moons…even in the new Heaven and new Earth we shall come before the Lord from one new moon to the next and from one Sabbath to the another…..certainly if it is this important….I want to know more.

    Any info you care to share with us about this wll be greatly appreciated.

    God bless you

    Patricia

  101. I believe your time frame to be on the mark, 110% accurate. I believe the full year of 2017 is the Jubilee year of the Lord. Going back every 50 years from that point shows something significant in Jewish history as far back as you can go. (The declaration of Israel becoming a nation again went out in 1947, not 1948. God’s prophecies are enacted by His Word- the declaration, before the act takes place, sometimes many YEARS before the event.) I do have a few differences of opinion on this however, if I may toss them into the mix here. I believe Jesus will return during the Fall Feast of Trumpets, but in 2016. I believe the abomination of desolation will take place 3 1/2 years before that during the Spring Feast of Passover in 2013. If you go back 3 1/2 years again, before that, it brings us to Fall of 2009. So then, we must consider any events involving a false “Peace” maker that were noteworthy, during that time. The one thing that immediately comes to mind is Barack Hussein Obama being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his works of “peace” (which we know is a blatant lie, as he is the biggest warmonger this nation has ever seen. Also, I do not believe he is the prophesied antichrist, at least not yet. If he is to BECOME the antichrist, there are other biblical prophecies that he has yet to fulfill, so, right now, no, he cannot be “the one”) This peace prize ceremony took place in September of ’09, right on schedule with this timeline of last day events we’re discussing. Of course, this means we are in the first half of the final seven years, and, the Great Tribulation would begin in Spring of 2013, marked by the actions of he who desolates the temple, and causes the oblation to cease. A key factor in delivering proof for these beliefs is the timing. Obviously, we are not seeing daily sacrifices at the temple, currently. But since the Bible states that the beast will cause these sacrifices to cease, we must assume that between now and then, they must resume. So, if the abomination of desolation takes place at the midway point of the final seven years, working our way back from Fall of 2016, again, we see this puts us at Spring of 2013. Author of this page (whom I believe to be a woman), ma’am, I submit to you that within the next eighteen months, we will see the resuming of the daily sacrifices take place in Jerusalem. How long will they go on for before the abomination of desolation takes place? The Bible does not say. So, they could begin tomorrow, they could begin just a few mere days before the Spring Passover Feast of 2013, only to be suddenly halted by the beast. We do not know the details. So, I would suggest that we keep an eye on Jerusalem very closely for the next 18 months, to make a mental note as to when they begin those sacrifices. By my findings in Scripture, based on real-time events and biblical prophecy, we are entering year two of the final seven years in the next couple of weeks. (Today is September 7, 2011) Being a “post-tribber”, this all fits perfectly, to me, but from a pre-tribber’s standpoint, I can only imagine that this news must not be quite as exciting. I don’t believe any true Christians of the remnant body of Christ missed the “rapture”. I simply do not believe the Bible hints at, let alone makes clear, Jesus’ returning anytime before the beast is revealed and fulfills prophecy by setting himself up to stand in that holy place, declaring himself to be “god”. Take this for what you will. I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, and thank you for putting your thoughts online to share with everyone. I appreciate it. God bless you and keep you safe in the times to come.

  102. you fill we well see the anti Christ before we are ruptured

    • II Thessalonians 2:1-3

      1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

      2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

      3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;”

  103. With regard to seeing the first beast of Rev 13 (who is commonly called anti-christ); since the Protostant Reformation the early Protestant reformers, Luther, Calvin and virtually all early Protestants (which simply meant those who protested against the Roman Catholic Papal authority declaring it was Christs replacement on earth with full and supreme authority). The anti-christ has with us. Anti-chist means who stands in the place of Christ.

    I’ll let the Papacy speak for itself regarding whether it believes it is an antichrist. The Pope seems to think he has the authority to rule even Heaven. If I remember my Bible correctly somebody got his butt kicked out just for wanting corulership, let only taking over.

    Concerning the extent of Papal dignity, authority, or dominion and infallibility.
    (Quoadea quoeconcernunt papae dignitatem, auctoritatem, seu potestatem, et infallibilitatem.)

    #1. “The Pope is of so great dignity and so exalted that he is not mere man, but as it were God, and the vicar of God.”
    (#1. “Papa tantae est dignitatis et cesitudinis, ut non sit simplex homo, sed quasi Deus, et Dei vicarius.”)

    #13. “Hence the Pope is crowned with a triple crown, as king of heaven and of earth and of the lower regions.”
    (#13. Hinc Papa triplici corona coronatur tanquam rex coeli, terre et infernoram.”)

    #18. “As to papal authority, the Pope is as it were God on earth, Sole sovereign of all the faithful of Christ, chief king of kings, having a plentitude of unbroken power, entrusted by the omnipotent God to govern the earthly and heavenly kingdoms.”
    (#18. “Deveniendo ad Papae auctoritatem, Papa est quasi Deus in terra unicaus Christifidelium princeps, regum omnium rex maximus, plenitudinem potestatis continens, cui terreni simul, ac coelestis imperii gubernacula ab omnipotenti Deo credita sunt.”)

    #30. “The Pope is of so great authority and power, that he is able to modify, declare, or interpret even divine laws.”
    (#30. “Papa tantae est auctoritatis et potestatis, ut possit quoque leges divinas modificare, declarare, vel interpretari, ad num.”)

    Source: Lucius Ferraris, “Papa,” art. 2, in his Prompta Bibliotheca Canonica, Juridica, Moralis, Theologica, Ascetica, Polemica, Rubristica, Historica. (“Handy Library”), Vol. 5, published in Petit-Montrouge (Paris) by J. P. Migne, 1858 edition, column 1823, Latin.

    Web page: http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/claims.htm

    • Just to make a clarifying point, remember the beast of Rev 13 is not the personification of the Dragon, also called the Devil (false accusser), and Satan (adversary) of Rev 12, simply his agent and a beast refers to a kingdom or governing body as in Daniel 7 & 8, not to a particular person. In Rev 13 the beast has seven heads, ten horns and a really mixed up body used to describe qualifying characteristics about the beast. Would really have to do some stretching to attempt to descibe one person this way, but a system which has undergone a long history, not so far a stretch to find correlation.

  104. We are still here…

    • hi felix

      yes , we sure are still here. We can try to see the patterns, but only the Father in heaven knows for sure the exact time….we just need to be ready.

      I think the next jubillee is either 2017 or 2018.

      I also think the 7 years is not needed. Daniel only said 3 1/2 years for Jacob’s trouble. Part of the last week may already have been fulfilled by Jesus, before he was cut off.

      I am not pre-trib, I am pre-wrath, which means I expect the saints to be around for some trouble, but not the wrath of God which starts with the 7 trumpets.

  105. I to believe the time to repent and receive salvation is very short, Jesus is coming very soon. There will be a world war that starts in 2013 or 2014 in that timeline I believe time will run out to repent.

  106. pray every day when u awake, and every before you sleep, he hear’s everything you have to say, he loves us dispite all our iniquities, he loves us more than there are of any imagination known, he has always been with us, even before our birth, he knew of us and our lives, even our trials and tribulations, before we knew of own lives and where it would lead us day by day, talk to him every day, he is always listening to you and your heart, he is our father…all of us…and for the question?…when will he come…remember this, no one living or even has passed from our times, even the angels of heaven know’s the hour of his coming, only the father knows…so just trust in him always, and love him with all your whole heart, your whole soul, your whole mind, and spirit…and your whole self…for he is the word, and truth, and the light, so worry yourself not….only the lord our father, will know the hour of his coming…and he loves us all unconditionally….God Bless you all, and be at peace…

    • good advice :)

      • Remember all the key words in each comment: “I believe…”. After all you are human, and human nature is to search endlessly for purpose in this life. Searching is okay and religion is too (to a certain extent) as long as you don’t get ahead of yourselves. Just my opinion.

  107. Since the Israelites never kept the jubilee(no evidence they did) what date do you start it from? From the Exodus? From the giving of the ten commandments? From the crossing of the Jordan? From when all the Canaanites were driven out? When?

    • hi David

      There are a lot of assumptions made here, and I cannot claim they are accurate.

      Jews did celebrate the Jubilee while in their land in biblical times.

      Modern Jews will not consider the Jubilee until all Jews are back in the land.

      They feel the next one will be when Messiah comes.

      To Christians, this is right around the corner, but to the Jews, this is unknown.

      • Shame there is no biblical reference though.

        • hi david

          I found this in an old email someone sent me. It may have some clues as to how to back calculate and find the jubilee year. I don’t know if it is accurate, but it seems the jubilee would have started after Jesus arose from the dead in 33 AD, or whatever year it was. The concept of Messiah arrival = jubilee seems reasonable. then we can count forward from there.

          Thus the Sabbatical years were to be counted from the month of Nisan, when the Israelites came into the land which God gave to them.
          1. The 69 weeks began on Nisan 1 in 444 BC, which fell on March 5.
          2. Christ died in 33 AD.
          3. The 69 weeks ended on Nisan 10, 33 AD, which fell on March 30 that year.
          4. March 5, 444 BC, and March 30, 33 AD, are 173,880 days apart.
          •Palm Sunday, April 01, 2012 (sunset) 10 Nisan
          •1260
          •Sunday, September 13, 2015 (sunset) Yom Teruah
          •10 (Days of Awe)
          •Thursday, September 23, 2015 Yom Kippur
          •1290
          •Saturday, April 05, 2019 (sunset) 1 Nisan

          What I am saying here isn’t exactly new. It includes the Biblical explanation of the Sabbatical year long held by the Karites. They even go so far as to consider the Jubilee actually beginning in Nisan. My point is that if the Sabbatical Cycle is Nisan to Nisan as history proves in the 69 weeks, then the Fall Feasts could be fulfilled in the center, this would explain a lot, including why the 1260 and 1290 days are mentioned, rather than just seven years.
          The symbolism of the Fall Feasts seems clearly woven in to Revelation 12. The celestial sign (woman clothed with the Sun, moon at her feet) sometimes associated with Yom Teruah, in 2015 happens a month later on 14 October/ 1 Cheshvan, 1260 days later it leads you back to Nisan 1.
          Some people have argued that Yom Teruah should be considered New Years because it is the beginning of the Sabbatical year. However, the Torah does not say that Yom Teruah is the beginning of the Sabbatical year and all indications are that the Sabbatical year begins on the 1st day of the First Month. The Torah does say the following:

          “And you shall pass a shofar of blasting in the Seventh Month on the tenth of the month; on the Day of Atonement you shall pass a shofar throughout all your land.” (Lev 25:9)

          This verse is saying that a shofar should be used to announce the arrival of the Jubilee year, the 50th year in the Sabbatical system. It does not say that the Jubilee begins on the Day of Atonement only that the impending arrival of the Jubilee year is announced on the Day of Atonement. Indeed the shofar may be passed through the land on Yom Kippur of the 49th year, six months before the beginning of the coming Jubilee year. This interpretation is supported by the immediate context in Leviticus 25. Verse 8 says to count forty nine years, verse 9 says to pass the shofar throughout the land, and verse 10 says to proclaim the 50th year as the Jubilee. This shows that the shofar announcing the coming Jubilee in verse 9 is passed through the land before the Jubilee is actually proclaimed in verse 10

          • You find the jubilee in Lev 25.

            They were to work the land for 6 years and let it rest the seventh year. They were to do this seven times.

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            6 + 1
            6+ 1

            That is 49 years and in that time the land would have rested 2520 days(a biblical year is 360 days).

            The Jubilee is the 50th year. So 7 cycles of 7 plus the 50th.

            In Lev 26 it says: Lev 26:34 Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye [be] in your enemies’ land; [even] then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

            So when was Judah taken captive to Babylon? 605BC.

            And they were to stay there for 70 years.

            Jer 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, [and] an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years.
            Jer 25:12 ¶ And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, [that] I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it perpetual desolations.

            Why they were taken to Babylon for 70 years? Because they broke the covenant of letting the land rest every seven years. If the land rested for 70 years how long had they broken the covenant? 70 * 7 = 490 years.

            • hi david

              Since they did not keep the jubilee, and then there were other breaks in time, and observance, I would have no clue as to how to calculate the real jubilee year.

              Everything is a guess now. Do we follow the original schedule, or do we allow for breaks in time?

  108. To All,

    I would like to make the case for Yom Kippur of 2015 being the time that Messiah will step on to the Mount of Olives as King. I am honestly not trying to date set in all of this. It is just hard to get past all of the things that point to this date.

    1) One thing being the fact that Messiah started His ministry on Yom Kippur when He read Isaiah 61:1 and the first part of verse 2, which was on a Jubilee year. It is recorded in Luke 4:16-20. I am only going to give chapter and verse of scriptures for brevity sake. Messiah will return on Yom Kippur of a Jubilee year; the next being Yom Kippur of 2015. It can’t go to the next Jubilee year without breaking the next fact.

    2) According to Matthew 24:32-34 which basically states that when the fig tree (Nation of Israel) puts forth it leaves (being back in the land of Israel as a nation), the generation that sees this will not pass until all things be fulfilled. There are scriptures that point to 70 years as being the time span of a generation, but even if you don’t accept that, the next Jubilee year is 2065 which makes this whole prophesy null and void. This prophesy only works with the Jubilee year of Yom Kippur in 2015.

    3) The prophecy of Daniel 9:25; the first 62 weeks of Daniels prophecy works out perfectly with the year the Persian King Cyrus commanded the restoration and building of Jerusalem until the first coming of Messiah. The last 7 weeks of the prophecy comes out this way; the Jews regained Jerusalem on June 7th 1967. If you count out the 49 years it falls on Yom Kippur 2015, the second coming of Messiah

    4) The four lunar eclipses (blood moons) called a Tetrad, that Mark Biltz introduced us to, which will all fall on Feast days of Israel in 2014-2015. This will only be the eighth time these Tetrads have happened since the time of Messiahs first coming and have always been on important events concerning Israel. There will not be another Tetrad this century after the years 2014-2015.

    5) The last thing is that the Sabbatical cycle we are currently in adds up to the required 2550 days ending exactly on Yom Kippur of 2015. It is my understanding that not all of these cycles come out to 2550 days, depending on whether there are 86 or 87 moons during the cycle.

    If all of this is the case, we are now entering the time of Jacob’s trouble (the last 3 ½ years).

    This is not a point to argue about, but to be watchful and prayerful. I understand that there are a lot of things that have to happen in conjunction with all of this. We will find out very quickly if this is right or not!

    • Al
      Not trying to argue here, just curious.
      Most people believe that 27 ad was the year Jesus ministry began, how did you start at 15 ad? As I have pointed out to people here before, the solar and lunar calenders match for counting years up, they Correct for differences every seven years or so. For example between the year 1900-1999 there have been exactly 100 solar years, and Lunar years, and Hebrew Yom Kippurs. As you know, Yom Kippur is based on 7, 7 year cycles, the Jubilee being the fiftieth year. As a fall feast, Yom Kippur is always in the fall, and the seasons are based on the sun, not the moon.

  109. Hey Dru,

    Hope all is well with you my brother. I basically took where we are now and listed the salient information that shows the basis for a fall 2015 return of Messiah. I understand the problems of projecting the above dates back 2000 years. I have yet to find much of any concensus concerning dating, considering man decided to change times and how our days are numbered. Even the discussion of using 49 years or 50 years as a jubilee cycle. There is even discussion on whether you start dating the jubilee cycle from the 50th or 51st week of the previous Jubilee. All I was doing above was showing what is coming up in the next 3 1/2 years and how these things relate to a possible return of Messiah. I have not even found a concensus on the current and historical dates of the jubilee cycles.

    My basic point is, given all that is coming up in 2015 and the seeming silence for the rest of this century concerning many of these signs, in conjuction with the dating of a generation from the 1947-1948 time frame, basing our understanding of these things based on our ability to accurately pinpoint unclear dates 2000 years old where there is so much room for error, I think is not wise.

    I do understand what you are saying and appreciate you raising the question. I am good with whenever Messiah’s time to return is. Be it 2015 or later.

    Be Blessed My Brother!

    • Al
      The reason why I ask, is that I have found 4 proofs pointing to 2026/2027. The Most recent being Ezekial 40:1 which is dated to 573 bc, and states the tenth day of the first month being Yom Kippur. Now it does not say that this was a jubilee, but if you add 50′s to it, you hit 26/27Ad,
      ironically, 50 years prior to to 573, You had the rediscovery of the scrolls, and the purging of Israel by Josiah 623/22bc.
      I am just saying, do not be unprepared if the groom is delayed, if you know what I mean.
      Shalom.

  110. Hey Dru,

    Your point is well taken and I receive what you have said with gratitude and watchfulness!

    The reason that Yahshua revealed who He was on Yom Kippur of a Jubilee year is the fact that the scripture He read in Isaiah 61 was accepted and understood to be the deliverance of the Jubilee year. The Jews knew exactly what He was talking about. Verse 19 states “To proclaim the acceptable “year of YHVH”. He was saying that “this year” was the fulfillment of this Jubilee passage out of Isaiah (Messiah’s first coming). In case they had any doubts as to what He was saying, in verse 21 He said “This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.”

    But, as you say, do not be unprepared if the groom is delayed, which is wise advice.

    Be Blessed Dru

    • Al
      Again, I see the events of luke 4:19 occuring in 27 ad, I do not understand where you get 15 ad? I am looking at the leviticus account of numbering the jubilee, and it seems that the new cycle of counting begins after the year of jubilee, making each one a 50 year cycle, so if there is one in 27 ad, then there is one in 77ad, and 1977 ad, and so on. What is ironic, is that the final week of that cycle began with the destruction of the temple, 70 ad, Just as the tribulation begins begins 7 years prior.
      In leviticus, note that food was to be provided for 3 years in preparation for the Jubilee, the 49th year, which is a sabbath year, the jubilee which is a sabbath year, and the following year as new crops are grown. 48th=non sabbath, food stored for three years 49th= sabbath (no sowing,or reaping), 50th=sabbath (Jubilee), 51st=start of new cycle. At least that is where my logic leads.
      what are the other signs for 2015? the eclipses etc?

      • Dru,

        Hope all is well with you. You keep asking why I chose 15 AD. Actually, you are the one that came up with 15 AD; you have determined that there is an extra year at the end of each Jubilee cycle making each cycle 50 years in length, basically 7×7=49+1=50 years. The other camp sees a 49 year cycle with the 50th year being the first year of the next Jubilee cycle. The result being, in a period of 2000 years there will be a 40 year difference comparing both calculations. Everything is also contingent on the original starting date being correct. That is the main reason I am not too hung up on any of this. But having said that, I do believe that Messiah could very well come in 2015 for the reasons that I listed on the blog and I also have some very personal reasons for believing that 2015 could be Messiah’s second coming. Truth is I saw the year 2015 as being His return time before I had read any of this other. But even with all of that, if 2015 is not His time to return, I will keep on with everything knowing that He will come at the right time.

        As for the lunar eclipses (tetrads), since the time of the first coming of Messiah, there have been seven, with one more to come in 2014-
        2015 making it a total of eight. Just had a thought! Let me run it by you. Could this be the ultimate and last Jubilee? Blood moons tend to mean bad news for the Jews. Since 1948, though Israel is suffering due to wars and all that brings to a nation, Yah was positioning them for their final Jubilee release: 1) Israel becoming a nation again in 1948; 2) Israel capturing Jerusalem in 1967; 3) Israel (the nation and the people) being completely set free once and for all by the second return of Messiah 2015.

        Seven sabbatical cycles then the release on the year of Jubilee.

        Seven tetrads and the ultimate release on the final year of Jubilee (eighth tetrad 2014-2015). Then shall we ever dwell with Messiah-final blood moon Feast of Tabernacles 23 Sept. 2015.

        Just me thinking out loud………

        Be Blessed my brother

        • Al,
          I do not put much stock in astronomical “signs”, nor do I say 2026/27, is definately the end of days. That being clear, what I hypothetically see is that Satan, will use these signs to back up his rise to dominance, and his eventual hand off of Authority to the Antichrist. A deception on a grand scale, which resembles the very predicted revelation accounts, which are believed by the church itself. But God, in his wisdom, has confused the matter within the church, So as to conceal his plan from Satan, Just as Satan thought he was winning the battle by Killing Jesus, But in fact it was Satan who was the one defeated by his own act of rebellion.

          That being said, what better way for Satan, in the guise of the Antichrist to declare himself Jesus/God, than to appear as though he is ruling a millenial kingdom, a time of peace and security, until he commits the abomination of desolation. Meaning that many will be deceived into believing that the tribulation, and wrath have already occurred. Lord knows we now have the technology to mimic the wrath of God as described in revelation. That is what I believe I was sent to warn people about.

          One of my loves as a child and young adult was playing chess. The brilliance of the game is that you must think ahead at all possible scenarios, and opponents strategies, all the while being able to alter your strategy, if the opponent does the unexpected. This is where this line of reasoning comes from, and it is wholly in Character with the opponent we are facing. If Satan thinks he knows the date, he will make his move accordingly, But only the Father in heaven knows.

          It could be 2012, 2015, 2017/18, 2026/27, 2030, 2033, or even 3200. I see four proofs in the bible pointing to 2026/27. The question is, is this God’s chess move, or his vindication of the prophets?

          Keep thinking out loud, for the confusion you see, is the confusion the opponent is seeing. We were not meant to truly know when until the game is played out. You might be right, or I might be right, or we both may be wrong. and right?
          God bless.

  111. Look at the following link and imagine that 3/13/2012 is day 1290. That would make Yom Kippur on 9/23/2015 the day Christ returns to Jerusalem. I’m not sure how to interpret the following passage, “blessed are they that wait till the 1335 days”, but 75 days after Yom Kippur is 12/06/2015 the first day of Hanukkah, seems fitting.

    http://vanshardware.com/2012/03/tetragrammaton-and-the-recent-solar-triangle/

    I’m not setting a date because I don’t know what if anything the sun triangle means, but find the way it all fits together very interesting; especially when you calculate day 1260, the solar eclipse 40 days after that, and the other non Biblical prophecies about that eclipse. His return could be very soon, or not, just make sure you’re ready!

  112. Since Jesus said we can know when He returns “right at the door” (Matt. 24.33) then how do we figure out when He returns?

    Very simply He returns on the 2,520th day (end of Daniel’s final seven) from when the Tribulation starts. 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 as a basic prophetic working unit, and it is 7 years x 360 days per year.

    The last 3 feasts pertain to when Jesus returns. Feast of Trumpets (representing the first rapture according to readiness, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10 at 9.7 “before the throne”) commences the 7 year Tribulation, and the 2,520th day must land on Tisha B’Av, the day the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed, for Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years on earth with His overcomers. Not all who are saved receive this reward though all saved do get to enter the New City after the 1000 years. Consider this consequences for slothful Christians.

    Furthermore, we know the “branch is tender” (Matt. 24.32) because Israel is a nation again and the Total Lunar Tetrads coincide with when Israel became a nation May 14, 1948 and entered Jerusalem June 7, 1967 as the signs in the heavens. The 8th feast Tetrad since Christ is 2014/15. And there are exactly 2,520 days from Sept. 14 Feast of Trumpets 2015 to Aug. 7 Tisha B’Av 2022. Not so for 2014-21 or 2016-23.

    To further seal the deal, not that we need more proof, the 3 events that occur right before the Tribulation starts (Rev. 6.12) in exact order are the great earthquake (either 320,000 killed in Haiti 2010 or 5th greatest in magnitude, Japan 2011), the blacksackcloth sun Nov. 3, 2013 (rarest of all, the 4th long H3 Hybrid since Christ), and of course the Total Lunar Tetrad 2014/15 that only falls on passover and tabernacles and won’t happen again till 2582/83. The H3 won’t happen again till 2172.

    If you care to include other evidences like the Malachy Prophecy (religious Rome destroyed in the 1st half of the Tribulation in Rev. 8 in agreement with 17.16), the prophecy of Jubilees, and Ezekiel’s prophecy that takes us to exactly May, 1948 when Israel would become a nation again this only strengthens the timeline.

    Considering the last drop of conventional oil is 2035 when 900 billion barrels (current estimate of available oil by industry reports) are used up at an average of 100 million barrels a day, the war over this resource will be a good 15 years before that to control the flow of oil in the middle east. Hence, 200 million military units in the middle east (Rev. 9.16) and the nuclear exchange (v.18). This fits perfectly with the timeline of the 6th and 7th trumpets from Aug. 20, 2020 (ask me how I derive this calculation) to Aug. 7, 2022. Jesus steps down on the mount of olives on the latter date.

    Now that you know this what do you do? “Overcometh” so that you become a spiritual Christian and not a carnal one to receive your reward to be first raptured and return with Christ to reign 1000 years. Many Christians don’t care for this reward so they will lose this blessing (Rev. 1.3).

    • Partrib,

      The HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH has been working in your heart, and I agree with quite a lot of what you have received.

      I ask that you go deeper though. Ask that your intellect be supressed so that you can become weak.
      In our weakness God becomes strong, and if you happen to “fast” that also helps.

      We listen to the HOLY SPIRIT easier when we are weak, and then when we are full of HIS GLORIOUS SPIRIT we become gloriously strong.
      The less of “you” the better!
      It is all THEM.
      FATHER GOD, YESHUA the SON and KING, and HOLY SPIRIT!

      Be Blessed

      PRAISE YESHUA THE WARRIOR KING.

  113. Simple calculation for the time of messiah arrival is as followed:

    Jesus cruxifixed and raptured : 32-33 CE
    1 day ascend to the right hand of God
    1 day descend to prepare the kingdom of heaven
    total 2 days
    1 day of God = 1000 yrs of man

    2 days = 2000 yrs (biblical lunar years)
    equal to 2000 x (354,3671/365.2425) = 1940 solar years

    32 (or 33) + 1940 = 1972 – 1973
    Jesus was already born in 1972, now he’s 40 years old!

    Jesus will not come from the sky! He will be re-born the same way he were first born!

    Matthew 1:22-23 explains how this is the fulfillment of Scripture: “All this happened to fulfill what had been declared by the Lord through the prophet, who said, ‘Look, the virgin will become pregnant and will give birth to a son, and they will give him the name Immanuel’ – which is translated, ‘God with us’”

    The new Jesus is called : Immanuel.

    God showed us the mark of 2nd birth of Jesus by a great sky event named Great Daylight Fireball 1972, was an Earth-grazing meteoroid that passed within 57 kilometres (35 mi) of the surface of the Earth over Utah on August 10, 1972. Meteor is always the mark of the birth of great king, such as Julius Caesar (JC), occured also in august!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Daylight_1972_Fireball

    Immanuel is already here with us now, awaiting for his appearance like a blazing-star, very sudden! Just like the sudden rise of David, when he slew Golliath, instant popularity!

    I predict he waits for another jubilee (7 years) = 2017-2018

    • dear Titus

      that is not the way the bible describes how Jesus will show up.

      i do not consider the calculations accurate.

      Jesus would not show up as a man again, and sit around watching, doing nothing.

      • U should learn about reincarnation, then u will understand

        • I understand reincarnation is a popular theory. But it is not part of the Christian teachings. It says in the book of Hebrews, that we are born but once, then after that we are judged.

  114. Isn’t it a strange phenomenon that in years the 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets is not Tisha B’Av, the 2,550th (1260+1260+30) day is Day of Atonement? Can anyone explain why this is? I will make myself small so I can hear and understand the answer.

    • hi Partrib

      I will have to make myself “small” too.

      I cannot read the mind of God about things He has not explained, so I can only guess, based on patterns and the Word.

      it is possible that the day you mentioned falls on the Atonement day because God is waiting for Israel, and the rest of us to repent, and acknowledge him as Lord before he returns and saves us from destruction.

      • You gave an answer that was not answering my question but you answered why the Day of Atonement was important. That’s not what I asked. My question was why is it that 7 out of every 19 years the 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets lands on Tisha B’Av, and in the other 12 of 19 years it lands on Day of Atonement? My instincts are telling me that not only is the Day of Atonement important but so is Tisha B’Av. Tisha B’Av was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. Jesus returns to reign on earth for 1000 years in person in the 3rd Temple. Day of Atonement is important too of course, since it represents when all those who are saved are determined.

  115. One of the best explanations I’ve found for the return of Messiah can be found at 119 Ministries. Most specifically, on this video: http://119ministries.com/daniel-unsealed
    There are three videos prior that really should be watched before this one, and one following, but this fourth one, Daniel Unsealed, will blow your mind. :) Enjoy.

    • hi Nina

      Thanks for the link. I am watching the video now.

    • great videos!!….i am going to listen to all of them again. I believe without a doubt he could have the time frame of the abomination being in the spring of 2013 and then Christ return on the Feast of Trumpets in 2016….on the video on where he gave his thougths on where it says no one knows the day of the hour being the time when the old earth shall pass away I tend to believe that it has possibly been misinterpreted by many to mean noone knows the day or hour when Christ returns. Anyway…I am going to listen to all 4 again and pray for discernment and study and pray about all the scriptures. I do know that the Lord would want his faithful to be able to discern the truth. it is absolutely worth listening to the first time and I believe will be the second.

      • The Lord told me on March 25, 2012, that it would be a “year and a few days” but did not tell me what “it” was.

        I would be interested in what happens next March / beginning of April 2013.

  116. the day JESUS comes will be the only day of jubilee. since JESUS doesn’t know when the 2nd coming is, it is ludicrious for us to set a date. all property returns to the original owner. GOD is the original owner. most evangelists agree that it will be during this generation.

  117. 666 is evil. the reason JESUS WAS COMPELLED to go to the cross. bible gives you a clue. three score= 3×20. 3 symbolizes JESUS. 2 babies. used together as a six it symbolizes abortion. we are ALL guilty in some way.

    • hi luther

      True, we are all guilty of crucifying Jesus.

      We do not know the day nor the hour, but it is good to be watchful and discuss what we see.

      this way the word remains alive in us.

  118. 7~19~5993

    Greetings in the saving Name of Yahshua, Son of Yahweh Who is coming SOON! John 5:43 I came to this site when looking for info about the Jubilee year during Yahshua’s life. 2000 years from that year = the year of His Return (on The Day of Atonement) unless He cuts the time short for our sake! Yahweh told Noah that man’s days would be 120 years. 120 Jubilee years equals 6000 years.
    Please check Revelation 13:18 in the Greek Diaglott (Free on The Web).
    The #666 = the symbols for the pagan name of Jesus Christ which contains a CROSS, X as in Xmas! The Mark of the Beast is this name Jesus Christ which contains a CROSS! These are the image (idol) and mark of the Roman Catholic Christianity ( of the Vatican) which has destroyed the Messianic truth of the Bible!!
    The saints are sealed in the Names of the Father and Son (Yahweh and Yahshua), Revelation 14:1 Pray NOW to accept BOTH and be sealed which means protected from the the plagues that fall on those with The Mark of The Beast! This also means being saved forever! By Yahweh’s mercy, I did this over 40 years ago! HalleluYah!
    This ancient transliterated Hebrew word means, “Praise ye Yah!”

  119. My question is why is it that 7 out of every 19 years the 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets lands on Tisha B’Av, and in the other 12 of 19 years it lands on Day of Atonement? My instincts are telling me that not only is the Day of Atonement important but so is Tisha B’Av. Tisha B’Av was when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed. Jesus returns to reign on earth for 1000 years in person in the 3rd Temple. Day of Atonement is important too of course, since it represents when all those who are saved are determined before the millennial kingdom begins.

    • dear Troy

      Tisha B’ Av occurs in the month of Av, and the Feast of Trumpets occurs in the month of Tishrei.

      They should never overlap.

      But they are still both important in their own season.

      The design of the months is on 30 days, and so every 7 years, there is an extra month added to make up for the lost days and this makes it equal to the solar calendar.

      • Marianne,

        What made you think I thought Tisha B’Av and Feast of Trumpets overlap?

        That extra month every 2 or 3 years is such that 7 out of 19 years there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B’Av and 12 out of 19 years there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Day of Atonement.

        Neat eh?

  120. 7,000,000,000 people are all in this world for the same reson and no one is better than the other , and no igo should make you think that you are special by being any nation and in any location . God made us all and we all go back to him . We all have same heart and liver and other parts – let someone show is if he/she is any diffrent . Religion is good and I love it but people put more blood and the suffering of many families just because people have different definitions or beliefs . Clean your self from all this suffering and evil, live happily and spread love if you can . Everyone talks of love and the word of God but very few do anything but talk . Keep your religiouse opinions to yourselves and don’t impose religion since you are not god , when you get a power of attorney from god than do what you want – in the mean time you are humans without an authority to impose , what you impose is bringing death – if you think that this is good and this is religion than I would prefer not to have religin at all since I know that god is not about revenge hatred but god is about love – love and love and I see no love in people when they speak of religion – I see sadness – negativity and competition ….. Shame on people who argue on finding difference rather than finding the common parts … If you think you are better then show that in practice and the other will follow but if you cant show it than you have to follow yourselves since you are not worth anything yourself ……I bet you forgot about love of god by now already while reading this and thinking about hatred and the differences even further – that’s what I mean and I hope you got it …… Love your kind , love other kinds , love all Kinds since we started this by saying that we all 7,000,000,000 are from god ….. If you think you are better than you have to ask yourself if you have seen the 7,000,000,000 people on the earth to judge and who are you to judge at all – only god judges – love is the answer so seek love – practice love and show love and other will follow . May your actions resemble what you deserve in this world and the other…..

  121. The reason you can put a date to this is because every thing repeats its self in time Like the seasons it is a respective of the changing world around us one grate city will fall another will take its place or a apple will fall next year a apple will fall again . This is slightly different with are sun alineing with the milkyway as it only happens every 5000 years But when the next messiah is ready he might not show the same empathy as his preadersesser after all you have not shown much improvements as a unit . When I look at humanity it makes me mad as hell how you let your selfs become no more than a slave race just to make the rich richer do what your told blindly following fulse leaders that have no real power only the gift of speech to manipulate your week mind that’s fine by me I believe nothing I hear and only half that I see But please Don’t follow me By the way I don’t have a religion never had time I just live as religion

    • dear master

      I agree that mankind does not follow what God has instructed.

      That is why he will wipe out most of the earth, leaving just a remnant behind.

      We have a choice of being evil, or correcting ourselves.

  122. If god judges us he must first judge him self for he made us he is fully aware of are capabilitys. If The Lord wipes us out he has committed geniside off witch he shall also pay the price it is not a win win situation. two wrongs don’t make a right Except from in math when it douse

  123. Dear brother and sisters!

    Yes, Jesus come back at Yom Kippur 2015, on 23./24. October 2015! This date is right, but it is “only” a time-prophecy, but there is no special messeage in.
    So there is another study, which confirms also this retourn of Jesus Christ on that day, but with a messeage of repentance and reversal, als written in Relevation 18:1-3.

    Please come and study it too! Read http://www.lastcountdown.org

    Thank you and give the Holy Spirit the possibility to change your character (Rom 12:1)

  124. I have this revelation about the 2nd coming of the messiah. Your right Jesus will come again on a revelation of the 2nd jubilee year. You can check my revelation on my Facebook account (markcabales@yahoo.com) thanks and God bless!

  125. Actually you can check my account as mark philippe A. cabales on FB. I hope you read my revelation about the 2nd coming of Christ. Thanks again!

  126. It is not the second coming ther have been many massi form all religions for Christians how ever this will compleat the trinity remember to not forget the others even if they are from a different book of worship that is the kind of ignorance that holly wars are thought for although all wars are one god against the other god it seems that religion douse nothing but start wars But as I sit on top of a moutin looking across the sea toward the holly land all seems peaceful until I go across the land the is still a war ready to erupt

  127. 10~20~5994 Sabbath

    Greetings again in the saving Names of Yahweh and His Son Yahshua!
    Final prophecies are about to be fulfilled!
    In his latest speech before the UN the leader of Iran (whom I refer to as Mad Jad) made something clear for me. He mentioned “The New World Order” and the coming of “Jesus Christ”! This confirms for me that The Vatican will order Russia, Iran, and allies to attack Israel and the U.S. Ezekiel 38, 39, and Psalm 91.
    This may be the REAL reason for all those underground bunkers (i.e. under the new Denver Airport all the way to Colo. Springs) and all those zillions of coffin liners in differest places! End of Mayan calendar Dec. 21, 2012? Maybe not!
    Hanukkah took place on December 25 when an evil king first enforced a deadly worship, possibly the first “Mark of the Beast” and IT WAS THIS SAME PAGAN WORSHIP!! Yes, SO MANY believers CAN BE WRONG!!!
    We are in that final time frame for this prophecy! No Rapture! This Bush Senior 31 year New World Order under The Vatican’s CHRISTIAN CROSS will then enforce “The Mark of the Beast”! Revelation 13:18, Greek Diaglott, free on The Web! The #666 = the pagan name of Jesus Christ (Greek meaning the annointed or saving Zeus!) This name in Greek also contains a CROSS, X as in Xmas! It’s also called a “HEX”? Have you been deceived by it?? I was a very long time ago!! However, I CHOSE to believe in the Father and Son! YOU CAN, TOO!
    For YOUR salvation PLEASE LOOK it up!! Pray NOW to choose Yahweh and His Son Yahshua so that you, too, will be sealed and protected in THEM! Revelation 14:1 Yahshua returns SOON and no Vatican NWO under The Christian CROSS can stop HIM!! HalleluYah!!
    This ancient transliterated Hebrew word means, “Praise ye Yah!”

  128. Listen, learn, read, feel…….be connected…. there is no great conspiracy, there is no end of the world, there is no great judgement. Fundamentalism in any form is an illusion, a false creation of a sense of being. Everyone needs to know that to become fulfilled you should burn all of your scriptures, no matter what your faith and get on with your life….and this just might help you to get on with everyone else. There is no secret message or code…..there are no chosen ones. Everyone is worthy and those who adhere to any kind of betrothen faith are merely the fodder of power mongers who have a great deal of investment in being believed. Put down your force fed texts, visit every room in the library if education is what you seek, there is much more to be learnt with a free mind. No one knows the exact nature of this existence and probably never will. But whilst you are here you have an opportunity…..an opportunity to spread non judgemental love. The only thing stifling this possibility is a lack of openness to everything, put down your books, forget what you have been told and go out and love….that is all that matters and that is where real existence lies………………….

  129. If you really thought the end was near then youd also know our savior is among us. If you do not believe you will be left behind but if you can take god into your heart you will be saved by his son. He isnt who you think he would be. Speculating will not make your relationship with god and stronger. If you believe that times will end soon then maybe you should hide. Darkness is a great place for you. If you are ready to live then your life is in His hands. If you need to believe once again you can look to the light. If you believe the messiah is here or coming you might need to help him. As he would not know what he is or how to proceed. If you were wise you would show him your respect without reserve. Your god is most likely my god. I know him well. He would love to see you stop fighting over him. god bless

    • Michael

      yes the savior is always with us in spirit. And he is who he is and I do not have to think about it. he does not need my help, but I am here to serve him. my life is in his hands, and he will guide and protect me.

      I enjoy looking forward to his return, and like to think about it. I do not fight over him.

      I do not know who your god is, from some remarks you make, which are odd to me.

  130. OOOOPS!
    I guess you guys didn’t get the word, the Rapture already happened, those who left were erased from everyone’s mind.
    It’s all good.

  131. To “The False One”, I presume what you said is supposed to be the biggest joke in history!

  132. 20.04.2020 That will be my last day i will be also be 32
    only seven years Awaits
    Far from the truth only god judges hypocrites the lot of you come on.
    No i can judge due to the duality of intelligence.
    I and I will have no trouble because if this is how you would treat my house then none are welcome not even my uncle would put up with this madness.

    Time and Math is Repetitive
    And my phone number is my birth date are an exact anagram of Hitlers birth date 420 ironic again cant be born the same day as the Anti Christ.

    Then five years of factory work being badly treated by most the polish
    so may be he was not as bad as he seam’d .
    And this is no lie i wished he had won that heart more than any thing.
    ok so now i have the two points of view needed.

    Then I lost my job 21/12/2012 lucky that and that was the change.
    No more polish belittling us.

    The new : Roman Empire through out history for the Golden Eagle it’s there again and again Now America uses it.

    Jesus Christ is dead while you follow and work for the people that kill’d him
    well done.

    He won’t be born called Jesus Christ will he would you name you child Jesus there for you are looking in all the wrong place’s

    look for a Red Devil 20 titles all players that were number 20 have one the most important goals. 20 different goal scores thats a record
    All we need is one more c l for the 4th for keeps. but we’ve got seven years

  133. DO YOU KNOW THE ORDINANCES OF THE HEAVEN?

    The Creator of the Universe is speaking in His BOOK (Isaiah 34:16) in this way: (1). “Do you know the ordinances of the heavens? Can you set their dominion over the earth?” Job 38:33.

    Note: Therefore the Creator designed a FORMULA in the Heavens which gives accurate Phases of Moon, Lunar New Years, Extra Months, Sabbatical Years, 7 X 7 Years, Years of Tithe, Jubilee Years, seasons and Tropical Years forever. That FORMULA was written in Leviticus 25:8-9. So YHWH’S FORMULA rules all the celestial bodies. Therefore the length of each planet is CONSTANT forever according to Matthews 24:35. Let us read now. “Heaven and earth will pass away, but MY WORDS will by no means pass away.” Can’t you believe His words? I do believe His words. That is why I believe that the Scriptural Lunar month and Scriptural Tropical year whose lengths are CONSTANT forever!

    (2). He appointed the Moon for seasons; the sun knows it’s going down.” Psalms 104:19; Genesis 8:22.

    Note: Therefore seasons are occurring as per the (length of) Moon only. So 4 months are becoming one season. 3 seasons (autumn, winter and summer – Genesis 8:22; Ezra 10:9) are becoming one Year or 12 Lunar months are becoming one Lunar Year. Are you not getting Seasons according to the Moon?

    (3). Moon is the Universal Clock for ever according to Psalms 104:19; Jeremiah 33:19-26 and Genesis 1:14-19. But Moon depends on Sun and Stars.

    (A) DAY: Occurs as per the formula of YHWH.

    Note: (a) Day time = 12 hours strictly (John 11:9).
    (b) Night time = 12 Hours (John 11:9).
    Therefore one day takes 24 hours strictly at the equator. This time is CONSTANT around the equator for ever according to the word of YHWH (Matthews 24:35; Jeremiah 33:19-26). We should not trust in the words of astronomers even if they are telling that one day is equal to 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09 seconds.

    (B) MONTH: Occurs as per the formula of YHWH.
    Note: (a) Lunar Month = 29.53135314 days or 29 days, 12 hours, 45 minutes and 8.91089108 seconds.
    (b) Each Lunar month begins as soon as it ends.
    (c) Lunar Month = New Moon to Full Moon + Full Moon to New Moon.
    (d) The moon is visible at one side only while the opposite side is always completely black..
    (e) The first day of the moon is not visible always because its face is projected towards the sun.
    (f) The visible Crescent will appear either on2nd or 3rd day of each Lunar Month.

    YHWH’S Formula only gives the length of Lunar Month in this way:
    YHWH is telling that count 49 years (Leviticus 25:8-10). We can get 606 lunar months if we count 49 Luni-solar years. We can also get 18 Extra Months if we count 49 Luni-solar Years.So we can get the below equations if we count 49-Luni-solar Years.

    49 Luni-solar years = 606 Lunar Months.
    606 Lunar Months = 17,896 days.
    One Lunar Month = 17,896/606 = 29.53135314 days.

    (C) YEAR: Occurs as per the formula of YHWH.

    There are two Lunar New Years. They are:
    (1) New Year which occurs at the end of every 12 lunar months. For example: Muslims are following this method.
    (2) New Year which occurs at the end of either 12 or 13 lunar months according to Luni-solar Cycle ( or Luni-solar Calendar). For example: Jews, Hindus and some people are following this method.

    Note: (a) There are different Luni-solar Cycles ( or Luni-solar Calendars). Jews are using 19-Year Luni-solar Cycle where as Hindus are using 60 – Year Luni-solar Cycle but the Creator himself is using 49-Year Luni-solar Cycle which is recorded in the Scriptures ( Leviticus 25:8-10). All the Luni-solar Cycles (or Luni-solar Calendars) are not suitable to keep the Feasts of YHWH because they can’t give accurate Phases of Moon, Lunar New Years, Extra Months, Sabbatical Years, 7 X 7 Years, Years of Tithe, Jubilee Years, seasons and Tropical Years.
    (b) China banned 60 – Year Luni-solar Calendar in AD 1930(for details you can see Guinness Encyclopedia, Page: 8). But Hindus are still following 60-Year Luni-solar Calendar to this very day in India even if it is inaccurate.
    (c) Jews didn’t realize to this very day that the 19-Year Luni-solar Cycle is not suitable to keep the feast of YHWH.
    (d) People who are following Judaism did not realize that the present Lunar month is not useful to celebrate the Feasts of YHWH.

    (e) Both Jews and Messianic Christians did not realize to this very day that the data of NASA (Phases of Moon from 4000 BC to AD 4000) is not suitable to verify the Scriptural dates which are recorded in the Scriptures.

    (f) The present length of Lunar Month (29.53058885 days) is not same as the Scriptural Lunar Month (29.53135314 days). Therefore the length of present Lunar month is of manmade traditions (Col. 2:8, 20-22).

    (g) We should follow 49 – Year Luni-solar Cycle (or Calendar) because it is established by YHWH and is written in His Book only. Therefore we should not follow the traditions of MEN such as 19-Year Metonic cycle (Colossians 2:8, 20-22).

    NOTE: I am disproving all the false calculations of NASA and Calendar produced by the servants of Satan. Many are following Satan’s calculations concerning Phases of Moon.

  134. Come the return of Christ Jesus be after the following Jubilee around 2057 or so?

  135. Correction on year not 2057 or so ,but 2067 or so?

  136. The upcoming jubilee is 2017.2067 might be wrong for 7 years mulipled by 7 is 49 plus the one year = 50 years which comes to 2067.I was thinking not this upcoming Jubilee but the following Jubilee might be the time in
    prophecy concerning the End Times.

    • jeff

      Why are you waiting an extra 50 years?

      israel was reborn in 1947, and made official in 1948….it has already been back for 65 years.

      how did you get 2017 = jubilee year?

  137. Hi,
    Just for your thought…A prophet of God was told by the Lord that the coming Jubilee would be the last Israel would celebrate before his 2nd Coming. When the prophet asked when was the previous Jubilee, the Lord answered 1967 (when Jerusalem was once again in the hands of the Jews).

  138. I don’t think people should worry about when jesus comes but they should find him first

  139. why would Israel celebrate i don’t get it whats so grate about this sepsis land that is full of Jews that annoy’s even me.

    what do they even do make or contribute to the world i don’t know starting to want to know what happens there now did they make me this slave.

    i don’t think they work in factory’s what the hell do they do but moan about
    well you know. 420 Again you may have been right.

    Jews are well off from making money from non Jews enslaving us all.

    • Jews have contributed more to science, technology and medicine than any other group.

      They have survived the holocaust, sponsored by nazis and arabs, and lived to contribute to the countries that tried to kill them.

      When a nation like Haiti or Philippines have major disasters, it sends medical crews in to help.

      Israel is the only free democracy in the middle east…it is surrounded by rogue nations bent on destroying it….it has God on its side, and as a tiny nation, has defeated 5 nations who attacked at once back in 1948.

      It has defended itself against missile attacks for decades, it has given medical care to its enemies, and shown mercy, while terrorist enemies only look for innocent blood.

      it needs to respond to missile attacks, it sends written warnings in arabic to the area so that civilians can get out of the way.

      It has given up most of its land for peace, while its barbaric enemies have only demanded more, and given up NOTHING.

  140. Hi Marianne,

    haven’t read all the comments in this particular thread but, if it is any sort of confirmation, I too see 2018 as the possible year of the saints “catching away’ or rapture.

    I had a dream earlier this year (2013) where I was at a wedding venue being fitted for my wedding gown. Then, right before I woke up, I heard the words “five more years”. That would bring us to 2018. I also was told that things were going to be made much clearer. Soooo….could it be?

    With that said, I believe in a 7 year time period of “tribulation”- the first 3.5 years being the first half of the tribulation and the last 3.5 years includes the “time of wrath” which, the saints are not appointed to.

    I believe Jesus raptures His bride (the believing ones) BEFORE the wrath is poured out, and then returns again WITH the saints (us) at the END of the tribulation (like he said in Matthew 24:29) to fight the armies of the Antichrist at the battle of Armeggedon-

    So my quess is that the wrath may be a period of 1.5-2 years…making the tribulation time period a period of seven years in totality.

    Not definite on the 1.5-2 years of wrath time, but I read somewhere else that they also thought the wrath time period could also last that long (1.5-2 years)

    Ever heard of this? Just curious

    • hi watch

      yes I have heard of it and written about it too.

      I think there is a final week but the time of jacob’s trouble is 3.5 years.

      the period of wrath is indeterminate…except for where it might mention a time, ex, trumpet 5 is 5 months.

  141. General E.H. Allenby took the Holy Land in 1917. He invited the Jews to re-claim the Promised Land. Fifty years later, in 1967, Israel was re-born. The Jubilee is every fifty years. The seventeen had a significant meaning and stands for spiritual completion. The Ark of The Covenant landed on Mt. Ararat (Ararat meaning the “curse is reversed”) on the seventeenth day of the seventh month. Nisan is the seventh month of the Hebrew calendar. (Not the civil calendar but the religious calendar) Nisan means “miracles”. So Nisan is the month of miracles. The fourteenth of Nisan was when the children of Israel killed the lamb as a sacrifice to God. So it was also when The Lamb laid down His life for us. Jesus would have risen three days later, on the seventeenth of the month. But The Bible also says that no one knows of the time Jesus will return. So, I am not saying that He will return on 7/17/2017. But I do believe that something significant and very good will happen on that day.

    God bless you,

    David

    • hi david

      many are looking forward to 2017 in hope. I cannot say I know what I think yet, but I do share the hope that it is soon.

      • I want to make a correction. Israel re-captures Jerusalem in 1967. It kind of was re-born in 1947. But Jerusalem being the key in 1967. Jerusalem in Hebrew means “foundation of peace”.

        I have more ideas on what 2017 will bring too. I believe more Christians will be looking at the Hebrew language. And with the help of the internet, people will be careful to look into their meanings. For example, things like “repent” and “drunk” will be properly understood as “metanoia” and “euphoric”. And also the meanings of “Jethro” and “Midean” will be better understood and The Word will start to work miracles in them. People will be amazed! Good things are coming! Great things! Blessings are coming to Israel and to the Gentiles!

  142. 3~8~5995 (out of 6000) Sabbath in this “Twilight Zone Apocalypse”!

    Yahshua the Messiah will return at the END of the 120th Jubilee unless He shortens the time for the elect’s sake.

    120 X 50 Jubilee years = 6000 years

    We are in Armageddon NOW! Killer radiation from Fukushima, Japan began on 3~11~11! For uncensored news : http://www.ENENews.com

    The Jubilee year end and begins on Yom Kippur, The Day of Atonement.
    This is the Appointeds Day of Yahshua’s return.
    The time in past history called, “The Day of Jacob’s Trouble” is ONE year. A day = one year in Bible prophecy.
    The saints wisely choose to believe in Yahweh the Father and Yahshua His Son. They are saved and sealed in THEIR NAMES, Revelation 14:1
    HalleluYah! (Praise ye Yah!) ARE YOU??

  143. From my Bible study I know one thing and believe in one thing which even Yashuah said.No one knows the day.Yes I wish He would come that day, but I don’t want to take it to heart and then be disappointed. So, I pray every day to be free of sins and He is welcome any minute or day.Of course I believe that His coming is soon, very soon, and I praise Him for that. Praised be His name and both Yahwe and Yashuah, praise the Lord an let us be ready for His return any minute. God Bless You all.

    • dear Araxi

      you are very wise. we contemplate messiahs’ return, as we find it interesting. but it is better to contemplate the messiah himself!

  144. Dear Marianne, Thank you for your reply. Every day I read on internet so many different teachings, which are so far fm Yashua’s teaching’ so I decided to stick to my Bible and what the H.S gives me to understand. So many people around me are attracted from the he teachings, and I am really sorry for the. The only thing I do is pray for them. I have a very good praying partner with whom we pray 2-3 times p.week. I attend my church here in my home town and find many ministries which still teach according to the Bible. Ideas on line the king James edition and there I have the opportunity to give my point of view …at the end of each chapter. Thanks for your patience and your letter. Amangou

  145. It is important to understand the correct jubileecycle.

    http://www.marieslibrary.com/PDF_Articles/SabJub.pdf

    http://www.everlastingkingdom.info/article/4/

    http://revelation1910.wordpress.com/2012/07/31/the-sign-of-yonah-the-seventy-weeks-of-daniel/jubilee-and-sabbath-years-graph-chart/

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Parashah/Summaries/Mishpatim/Eved-Ivri/eschatology2.gif

    http://trackingbibleprophecy.com/images/jubilees.gif

    http://bki.net/6000/clip_image015.jpg

    The 6000 years will end year 2028.

    http://water.cephasministry.com/bible_believers_6000_years.html

    http://bki.net/6000/6000aar.html

    http://www.giveshare.org/HolyDay/jubilee.html

    Its important to understand who the Antichrist will be.

    http://www.antipasministries.com/html/file0000397.htm

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