2014-2019 Islam’s countdown to the 12th Imam Mahdi

Many are waiting for a European anti-Christ, who starts out peacefully, and then wages war. There is already a plan in place, which Islam admits to, where a world war will take place to convert the world to Islam.   When is the 12th Imam Mahdi showing up?

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~ by Marianne on July 25, 2008.

234 Responses to “2014-2019 Islam’s countdown to the 12th Imam Mahdi”

  1. I am a muslim. I have respect for both christians and jews. By that i mean the true christians the the true jews. A quick history lesson. The bible has been re-written many times over and the original version has infact never been recovered, the recovered versions were infact re-written versions. Jesus (isa) never claimed to be the sun of god, the messiah of god he claimed. Now the ancient egyption god horus, was infact born on december 25th and his mother was a virgin called mari, horus merged with the sun god RA/RAY, now tell me this, why is it in all churches why jesus has a sun behind him, why your holy day is SUN-day and why jesus was born on december 25th. Even the 3 kings were infact a myth. The 3 kings are stars which around decmeber align to point towards the sun. Christianity is a beautifull religion that has been corrupted with the misunderstanding that the messiah of god is the sun of god, when infact if you reverse “sun of god” you get GOD OF SUN, This is not a coincidence and is infact the plan of the antichrist who’s plan is to imitate the true messiah. You are praying to the antichrist.

    Judaism has allso been corrupted. During the babylonian age, the rabbi’s were taken prisoner by the devil worshipping, black magic practicing babylonians, they were converted to their way of thinking and the torah was re-written. Now the true jews, they do not believe in the state of isreal, the land was allways the palistinians, and they oppose zionism.

    Islam to some degree has been corrupted. Divide and conquer is a popular phrase used in wars. Islam has been corrupted by the division between us. Islam is suppost to be one great family, ONE UMMAH. We have shites, sunni’s, Sufi’s then devided between them is their origins, Pakistani, Arab, bengali, and between them we have divided their wealth, and even between families their are divisions, divide and conquer, We are divived, but Allah the allmighty promises that we will never by conquered and islam will be victorious in the end.

    Now to the 12th imam, Imam mehdi. he will come down to this earth to fight against the dajaal/ the antichrist, by raising an army of muslims, to fight the evil one. Many christians and jews alike will convert of their own accord to islam. And there are people of all religions who will follow the antichrist. The war started many thousends of years back, but the war is accelerating, secret war is becoming an obvious war. Think lord of the rings for an idea if you do not understand the concept.

    We will unite the ummah once again. We will not let man made labels devide us and keep us from reaching the true goal, Jannah/ Heaven

    • hi adydadon.

      I agree with you that Christianity got corrupted, but it was because the Roman ruler Constantine never read the bible. He did not change the bible, because he did not even know what was in it to begin with. I agree that he did pervert the faith into a paganized version of the original faith.

      I do not agree that the “bible has been re-written many times.” That is just a popular claim for those who do not agree with the bible. The only contradictory records would be the gnostic gospels which were written 300 years after Jesus, by people who were NOT witnesses, and were fiction and heresy, and so they were rejected. Only the eye witness accounts of the apostles dating to the original period 2000 years ago are accepted.

      The original version of at least the old testament is still preserved by the Jews, and agrees with the Christian copy. The dead sea scrolls also confirm many writings. Jewish historical records by Josephus and the Roman criminal records confirm many aspects of Jesus life and ministry, and why he was condemned.

      I can understand some objections Muslims have about the pagan version promoted by the Catholic church, which is an outgrowth of Constantine’s changes. I have spent much time on this site trying to correct these errors. For example, there is only one God, and Jesus made this clear, and this is recorded in the original gospels. Only the Father in heaven is God. Jesus did say he was the son of God, but you have to understand what he meant. The Catholics misinterpreted this, and made this error a tradition and false doctrine to this day.

      Anyone who is in spiritual unity with the Father in heaven, obeys his commandments, and loves God, is a child of God. Many times in the bible, God refers to the children of Abraham as his children, when they are obedient, and then calls them a harlot when they disobey. Jesus was speaking of spiritual purity, not of a marriage God had with a woman who produced a child. This is a physical relationship, not a spiritual one.

      This is why Jesus told his followers to be “born again.” The first birth was physical only, and makes us a part of a fallen world, full of sin. But the second birth has to be spiritual, rejecting sin, and it is this “birth” that makes us sons and daughters of God. Since Jesus was already obedient to the Father God, he was already a “son of God.”

      According to prophecy, Israel has to be re-established and the Jews have to be gathered from the 4 corners of the earth, before Jesus can return. In the battle of Armageddon, enemies of Israel will then attack it, and Jesus will return to stop this battle. In this salvation experience for the Jews, they will then recognize their Messiah, when before they had not accepted him. The current establishment of Israel is for a divine purpose, or it would not have happened. Israel has to be gathered together in order to finally learn who Jesus really is.

      Other people that live there could also use the same lesson, and God expects them to live in peace with everyone, and not fight.

      Maybe this helps a little. I am not the typical Christian you see on TV, or around you. I follow what the bible says, and the original faith that Jesus taught.

      I hope someday soon, Jesus will return, and all the disagreements about him will stop. Once everyone meets him, they will be able to see who he is.

      • dear ms marianne, i know a few christians like you who reject calls for jesus to be god. i admire your stength in the face of the jesus is god campaign. i too was christian and have been muslim for over 27 years now. i fell out of step with catholicism and went into evangelical christianity where i really learnt a lot abut having a relationship with god. i hope that many of the muslims who were christians (sincere practising ones) will try to bridge the gap between muslims and christians rather than cause division. it is always so very easy to see our differences rather than our similarities.

    • Well adydadon, I won’t repeat what Marianne said because she has most graciously tried to guide you to the truth and out of the corruption of your understanding of a false history you have been taught by Islam and she speaks the truth well. There are false churches and beliefs but the true faith and followers she has spoken of has always existed since the Lord called His children the Jews and all those gentiles who sought and found Him with the guidance of the children of Israel and their keeping of the only Blessed Words from God that exist and were kept over so many thousands of years. Corruption at times may have occurred by some but always the Words of God were kept in their original Aramaiic, Hebrew and Greek and exist even today and of course they were copied in order to keep them which is what the Lord told the Jews to do.

      But I will correct you about the fact that Islam Is corruption and did not exist until its’ pedophilic/killer self-proclaiming prophet Muhammed created it taking with him the moon god of Mecca and its Indian rock worship heathenism while destroying everything and everyone else in his path while he created his new religion. Everything Islam is and has including your countries has been stolen from others, but it’s demise is come full circle and to its’ soon end.

      Your violent and terrible religion and demi-god is just another attempt at destroying humanity by vain man and the terrible growth of another cancer shall find its fall under tiny Israel ‘s feet and the stone that strikes you shall be none other than God’s Hand as chapters Ezekiel 38 & 39 explicitely expounds for this prophet wrote of your demise a thousand years before yours ever existed. Yours came along in 637 ad long after all other religions, and Ezekiel who different than your false prophet,set out the war and wrath of God against Islam that hates their neighbors.

      You like many muslims have just said you will go after all lands on the earth and do this very thing… you will especially attack Israels’ ancient homeland that God has restored to the Jews…I write portions of it and you may read it all that you may repent and turn from your demi-god allah and worship the true God who made us all, for the time is short and we are all left only moments in time to change wicked ways adydadon.

      Gog and Magog are the countries of Islam named in these passages and they are a warning to Islam that they pursue an evil God never meant for mankind to take and you Islam, your time is short and you shall not consume the earth as your desire and destroy all that refuse your false prophets’ poison.

      Ezekiel 38 & 39

      10“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: On that day thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil scheme. 11You will say, “I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people—all of them living without walls and without gates and bars. 12I will plunder and loot and turn my hand against the resettled ruins and the people gathered from the nations, rich in livestock and goods, living at the center of the land.” 13Sheba and Dedan and the merchants of Tarshish and all her villagesd will say to you, “Have you come to plunder? Have you gathered your hordes to loot, to carry off silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods and to seize much plunder?”’

      14“Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army.

      17“‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: Are you not the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel? At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20The fish of the sea, the birds of the air, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22I will execute judgment upon him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’


      • Since you understand Christianity so poorly, let me put it in a way you might be capable of understanding… Jesus was Allah, who came to earth to be a human named Jesus.

    • Jesus was God’s SON, not SUN…you dumbass. Thats the whole point of all christianity…the trinity. Jesus said over and over that he was the SON (1/3 trinity). God the FATHER, God the SON, God the Holy Spirit. He does not have a sun around his head, it is a HALO, because God is the God of Light. And no one thinks Jesus was born in winter, he was born in June…We just celebrate his birth on Dec 25, for reasons I wont explain, as I can tell all of this is over your head. Differing opinions are acceptable, but not even having a clue about your topic, now that ignorance is unforgivable.

  2. You have just proven that islam is the truth. 1400 years ago the prophet muhammed stated that last battle would be fought from isreal, Imam mehdi would take the fight to the Antichrist and unite the muslims around the world. The jews are following the antichrists ideologies and so are christians. The antichrist has made you worship jesus instead of god, and made jews think they are allowed their holy land when they were banished from the land god promised because they started worshipping a golden calf. According to islam after the arrival of imam mehdi, Jesus/Isa will step down from heaven and take the fight to the devil and kill him. Know this Christians, Muslims and jews. The devil has a single eye and his other eye is blind and protrudes. He will have the words KUFAR(non believer) written on his forehead and will claim to be the rightfull messiah. He will look like a man except for the blind eye. The greatest task of this world is to escape the shaytans deception

    • adydadon

      Islam represents the Antichrist spirit. Jesus will not help the Muslims. He will come to defeat them, to save Israel. Your prophecies are wrong.

      • It is only Muslims who follow Jesus to the word. Suppose if Jesus comes today and he will visit any ordinary christian home, what will he find their – christians dancing with each others wives and daughters, pig and wine on the dining table, uncurcumcised men more than 10000 christian sects and denominations and every sect and denomination sending other sects and denomination to hell and every sect and denomination claiming that they have the holy ghost..

        if Jesus comes to any Muslim home he will find them like him, Kosher food will be served to him, he will find any Muslim women like His own mother Mary (I mean Covered). Furthermore he will find Muslims following all his commandments… So analyze it and think……

        • Dear Tariq

          The main question Jesus will ask the Muslims when he comes is, “Do you know who I am?”

          Jesus is more than a prophet.

          We are not saved by works, like eating the right food. We are saved by knowing who Jesus is, and accepting his sacrifice for us.

          Many do not know this.

          I hope the Muslims get to know the answer to this question. Pray, and ask God to show you. I can answer this, but maybe separately from this comment. And I can prove it. 🙂

        • The first and original Holy book, The Bible warns us to “beware of false prophets(mohammed)who come in my name(God)and lead MANY astray, case closed.

          • i’m sorry to inform you b thomas, but the bible is NOT the first nor original holy book. and even if you say muhammad is a false prophet leading people astray then surely he would have been identified in bible. but yu christians say he is not mentioned at all in your holy book. isnt that strange? i think so. jim jones was a ‘false prophet’ who lead many american addicts to their death in guyana. jimmy swaggart was one too as he was a eeping tom evangelist who loved to peep at naked women through key holes. many priests have broken young people’s lives by having sex with them. the list goes on and on. in like manner there are many muslim leaders who have done the same sadly. have you ever looked at the book? the quraan? i’m not talking about believing in it. i’m speaking about looking to see what 1 billion peole believe in. you need to do that if you want to have an informed opinion, otherwise you will come across as just anther bigot to many muslims and then yu will say’ i dont care, i have jesus’. but the world has not advanced 1 inch by that thinking. many muslim bigots also exist and i tell them ‘go read what the people believe and then come back’ sadly many of them just like many of the christians do not even read their own book but love to defend it ignorantly.

            • Sadly ansar I have read the Qu’ran, some of the Hadiths that are so vile I shall not mention here the evil teachings and the Surah and any may do so online if they will and I find them all a disgusting expose of the slaughters and vile teachings of a pedophilic murdering prophet who married a 6 year old consumating at 9, cut off more heads than his pleasure should have and telling evil stories of why his demi-god should send them all to slaughter the infidel, Jews and Christians who reject his new and mean religion. While Muslims may be proud of the declarations and carefully written hordes of mankind you slaughtered and wrote of in them, the horrible teachings and treatment of people is not even archaiic as much as hard hearted and evil. I found little else than rubbish and wondered how so many millions could choose to follow such insanity and believe a God that created mankind would dictate such trash…. and I say this with respect because so little of it can be consider good when so much of it is vile. Describing why it is acceptable to please a man on a baby as long as he does not enter the child is an affront to humanity and you would have mankind call that holy. It is ludicrous pedophilia and not holiness and it is old as internet pedophilia is new but it is the same vile crime as covering women with tents is a worship of a false god and shows that muslim men are men pleasers in their oppression of women children and mankind but satisfying their baser appetites by writing these vile books rather than curbing their baser appetities.

              Yes I have read these vile books and am much disturbed by the fact that Islam is religion that feeds the spoiled and base appetites of men while making it legal for them to do anything they want as long as they stamp it with Muhammeds allah!

              • That evil man even forced his son to divorce his wife so he could marry her.
                He broke 2 of the 10 commandments when he did this evil act.

            • ansar june 6, Islam is in the Bible and every Nation that is Islamic is named in Ezekiel 38 & 39. Islam is called Gog and Magog and it is against Gods’ people Jews and Christians. Against God is what it means and thousands of years ago the prophet Named all the Nations of Islam in Ezekiel 38 & 39 that are Islamic today that will come up against the re-gathered nation of Israel, the Jews, that God would and did regather to their Ancient homeland when Islam (Gog) will come up against His people. We have come to this time and it is a sad time because so many of you have been taught so many lies by your Imams and books.

              Adam June 6..Yes Adam I forgot that one. Muhammed was so greedy that he did take the wife of his uncle was it?

              • MJ
                Muhammed took his sons wife and married her.
                You are right that Ezekiel are muslim nations but you forgatt Russia.

                • Ah yes Adam, I had forgotten it was the wife of his adopted son who he disowned so his adopted son could divorce his wife and Muhammed could then marry.

                  I should have mentioned Russia is Rosh and thankyou for doing so.

      • ms marianne, on what basis will a righteous jesus come to assist a decadent israel nation? that seems inconsistent with god’s law. i believe that jesus will put rights where there were wrongs- whoevere did it. but to say that jesus will assist a godless people because they found favlur with him a few thousand years ago is not going with god’s way of doing things. if israel was a god fearing nation i would agree with you wholeheartedly. i believe that is why up to today god still smiles on usa. but he does not have a ‘turn a blind eye to evil’ policy to anyone- even those he favours. apart from that i see jesus as coming to establish justice in a place that is mired in injustice. when you look at the conflict there can you see who are the evil doers there? are the british in america in 1700’s the evil people or the american freedom fighters? we need to be clear at all times about our biases and the facts. biases cloud facts and facts inform us of our biases. if you love israel that is a bias- not necessarily a bad thing- but it is a bias unless you love everyone else the same way who are doing the same things as israel. consistency is necessary for a serious thinker such as yourself ms marianne. and i have decided from yur speech so far that you are an active seeker of truth and consistency. please keep u the god work.

        • ansar

          There is no nation now that can claim to be a righteous nation. All have sinned.

          The commitment Jesus made to Israel was made, knowing Israel would fail, as in times past. But the mission of jesus is forgiveness, and he will establish peace and justice.

          Israel is no different than other nations.

          You are referring to the palestinian conflict, and I do not want to get into a political debate.

          The palestinians have many faults, and have done many things wrong. They are not innocent either. They have a history of terrroism and violence as a method of choice to get what they want. They also break peace agreements constantly.

          The history of that area is difficult. It has been occupied by many groups, babylonians, persians, romans, christians, ottomans, british…

          .those that owned the property were not the same ones that lived there.

          The arabs and jews there were just inhabitants, not owners

          The british transferred property to Israel in the early 1900s, and the land was occupied by both arabs and jews.

          The arabs remained as inhabitants. The jews became owners, as well as inhabitants.

          So that is the situation.

          The arabs want the Israeli land to be theirs, so they can be owners also.

          But they do not want to share. they want the jews gone.

          This approach will not work.

          no one can bring peace to this region of the world except God himself.

          There may be a false peace before that, as the antichrist brings a false peace to obtain power. once he declares himself God, this bring chaos and evil to the region. then both the jews and arabs are in trouble.

    • Your Prophet Muhammad is the false prophet , do you want a prove ?
      1/ Do you think God kills ?
      so how does a man justify thousands of murders committed by himself in the name of islam ? (Aslim taslam ) a common arab phrase that were used in the time of Mohamed , Muhammed was Possessed by bad spirits ,he claim to be (Rasoul al alah ) but he is a deceiver.
      Whereas the old serpent ( The devil ) is the Mahdi your twelve Imam , he has been prophesied by Christians from thousands of years ago till our days , that the son of sin ; Mahdi , is coming and moreover he will be accompanied by a false Preacher, someone well known in the International Community , and this false preacher will be Nero himself , one of the high ranks in the Infernal Army , they will preach against Jesus Christ , they will deceive many , especially “doubters” : Doubters are the scenes you see in Europe
      The mahdi will claim raising Dead people back to life but its fakeeee !!!! The son of sin ( mahdi ) will be ordering an infernal(bad) spirit to go to the body of the deceased person …. and many such false miracles ….

      ohh poor Muslims what awaits you if you don’t repent to your only God , Jesus Christ , he paid OUR debt so that we CAN repent .

      The devil himself (The mahdi ); the old serpents awaits you ! it will tremble your spirits so that it can take over you to guide you to Hell !!!

      What I ask you as a brother , is to pray for your Guardian Angel to guide you to light ! May your Guardian Angel protects you from the devilish moments that is ahead Please read the following as many as you can and your life will be changed , you will see , you will discover the truth ifff you WISH !!

      We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen. We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father,
      God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God,
      begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made. For us and for our salvation
      he came down from heaven:
      by the power of the Holy Spirit he became incarnate from the Virgin Mary,
      and was made man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate;
      he suffered death and was buried. On the third day he rose again
      in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven
      and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
      He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead,
      and his kingdom will have no end.

      We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son. With the Father and the Son he is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the Prophets. We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church. We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins. We look for the resurrection of the dead,
      and the life of the world to come. Amen

      God Bless you

      • Sleiman,
        You have arrived at the same conclusion that I have regarding the dragon spoken of in revalation, being the muslim Mahdi. What is your reasoning for this? and who then is the Beast, to whom he gives his authority?

      • Dear all,

        i would advise you all to better read about hazrat ali and prophet mohammed in detail which will extinguish all your misconceptions about islam.


        • All one needs do is read the slaughter ordered for the infidel ordered in the quran, hadiths or surah to rid oneself of any misconception of the violence of islam and its’ vile teachings. Your prophet, when he was not beheading infidels while taking their cities and homes married their wives and even a 6 year olf Aisha, consummating at 9 years olf. Pedophilia in the hadiths are gross beginning with your prophet and going on to the allowance of playing with babies and as many marriage photos are shown in Gaza, men marrying little tiny girls dressed in wedding garments and none can tell the story of when these were consummated but, knowing Islams lack of critical thinking or self control of men given the stamp to do what ever they want to men women and children we can imagine especially hearing cases of little girls sold for mens pleasures …no Islam is not peaceful nor is it holy. And your books are such a degradation of 1400 years of Islamic slaughter, I will give but a small show of what your books really say! And notice I have not even gotten into the Hadiths or Sura.

          Quran (8:12) – “I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them”

          Quran (9:73) – “O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination.”
          Quran (8:59-60) – “And let not those who disbelieve suppose that they can outstrip (Allah’s Purpose). Lo! they cannot escape. Make ready for them all thou canst of (armed) force and of horses tethered, that thereby ye may dismay the enemy of Allah and your enemy.”

          Quran (48:29) – “Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves”

          Quran (9:123) – “O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness.”

          Quran (47:3-4) – “Those who reject Allah follow vanities, while those who believe follow the truth from their lord. Thus does Allah set forth form men their lessons by similitude. Therefore when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them, then make (them) prisoners,”

          Quran (9:88) – “But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper.”

          Quran (9:111) – “Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme.”

    • 1400 years ago, the prophet muhammed…. Jesus was here 2000+ years ago. and He already said what would happen then. john was given a revelation that was written in approximately 95 a.d. also way before muhammed’s time. which means that muhammed copied things from the bible both old and new testament.

    • This adydadon is Islams last battle and it is Israel that shall bury you all that do not turn from Muhammeds’ darkness. Read Ezekiel 39 in its full text and you will see the destruction that comes soon.This Prophecy names every Islamic country that was stolen for your demi-god and you are gog and magog, aunion against God and Israel. The only escape is repentance and turning away from the evil you desire.

      adydadon Israel has returned and Jacob is returned to united Jerusalem and their captivity is done and no muslims or any nation may stand against what God has begun and will finish in the judgement on Islam and its nations that surround Israel hoping to destroy her. You may not touch her and you shall be destroyed up to one sixth of you that shall be left alive only.

      Ezekiel 39

      1“Son of man, prophesy against Gog and say: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: I am against you, O Gog, chief prince ofa Meshech and Tubal. 2I will turn you around and drag you along. I will bring you from the far north and send you against the mountains of Israel. 3Then I will strike your bow from your left hand and make your arrows drop from your right hand. 4On the mountains of Israel you will fall, you and all your troops and the nations with you. I will give you as food to all kinds of carrion birds and to the wild animals. 5You will fall in the open field, for I have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord. 6I will send fire on Magog and on those who live in safety in the coastlands, and they will know that I am the Lord.

      7“‘I will make known my holy name among my people Israel. I will no longer let my holy name be profaned, and the nations will know that I the Lord am the Holy One in Israel. 8It is coming! It will surely take place, declares the Sovereign Lord. This is the day I have spoken of.

      “‘On that day I will give Gog a burial place in Israel, in the valley of those who travel east towardb the Sea.c It will block the way of travelers, because Gog and all his hordes will be buried there. So it will be called the Valley of Hamon Gog.d

      17“Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says: Call out to every kind of bird and all the wild animals: ‘Assemble and come together from all around to the sacrifice I am preparing for you, the great sacrifice on the mountains of Israel. There you will eat flesh and drink blood. 18You will eat the flesh of mighty men and drink the blood of the princes of the earth as if they were rams and lambs, goats and bulls—all of them fattened animals from Bashan. 19At the sacrifice I am preparing for you, you will eat fat till you are glutted and drink blood till you are drunk. 20At my table you will eat your fill of horses and riders, mighty men and soldiers of every kind,’ declares the Sovereign Lord.

      21“I will display my glory among the nations, and all the nations will see the punishment I inflict and the hand I lay upon them. 22From that day forward the house of Israel will know that I am the Lord their God. 23And the nations will know that the people of Israel went into exile for their sin, because they were unfaithful to me. So I hid my face from them and handed them over to their enemies, and they all fell by the sword. 24I dealt with them according to their uncleanness and their offenses, and I hid my face from them.

      25“Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now bring Jacob back from captivityf and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will show myself holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the house of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord

  3. What we should be doing is to do what is good. Good that our individual religions tells us to. We cannot force a person into believing what we believe but guide, pray or hope that God will open his heart to the straight path and towards his mercy. We must respect each other and never accuse a another religion of being untrue but let him know that there is only one god and that Muhammad is the prophet of God. If he choose to disbelieve that is his own right what matters is that we have done our part. As for the Qiamat, Armageddon or days to the end of the world… It is not important right now. Yes we should prepare for it. But preparation should be by obedience to God, alms giving and other good. Would you guarantee you’ll be in his mercy if you don’t practise these things now… later.

    • ADzim,

      I agree with you on the most of the points you made. My main concern is harming others, and people perceiving this as “obedience.”

      The bible says that people will kill each other, in the last days, thinking that they have done God service.

      But instead, they have disobeyed God.

  4. In Islam and as in the Qur’an as pointed out by Barack Hussein Obama, if one kills an innocent person it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind and if one saves the life of an innocent person it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind. I believe that in the Bible it is mentioned that the two most important commandments are to love god with all your might, mind and soul and to love your neighbour as yourself. It is therefore never the agenda of the faithful to kill. True christians or muslims never kill the innocent but as you have mentioned humans are inclined to wickedness. What I suggest is that you do good and by that it is also by educating those around you towards the path that is straight and that path will show you light and guidance. The path which God has bestowed his love and mercy.

    • hi Adzim

      THere is much wisdom in your comment. I wish there were no wars, or conflicts or hate. I just wish the time of peace would come soon.

    • adzim..Islams version of innocent is not most peoples version of innocence for you may slaughter all infidels for not accepting Muhammed or his foul demi-god and call us not innocent. This is not righteousness to God or mankind but to Islam you may slaughter anyone not muslim. According to your Qu’ran, Hadiths and Surah slaughter in the agenda until all the earth is under Islam so what you say is not according to your religious books, teachings and history of Islam. I saw this week the beheading of a Christian while listening to the Islamic prayer to put him in hell for his refusal to accept Islams hellish demi-god. Nothing you or anyone Islamic will convince anyone I know that there is peace in Islam…look at the Islamic Nations today. They are no different than other nations and the rest of mankind in its’ bloodlust of war. There is no peace in Islam as long as all the world is considered the house of war by Islam.

  5. Charity, neighbourliness, feeding the poor and orphans. Attending to the sick and elderly. Respecting elders. Greeting one another. Obeying,respecting and pleasing your parents. Serving your community, country. Just some of it..

  6. With technology in the wrong hands… This is what happens.

  7. In Islam and as in the Qur’an as pointed out by Barack Hussein Obama, if one kills an innocent person it is as if he has killed the whole of mankind and if one saves the life of an innocent person it is as if he has SAVED the whole of mankind. I believe that in the Bible it is mentioned that the two most important commandments are to love god with all your might, mind and soul and to love your neighbour as yourself. It is therefore never the agenda of the faithful to kill. True christians or muslims never kill the innocent but as you have mentioned humans are inclined to wickedness. What I suggest is that you do good and by that it is also by educating those around you towards the path that is straight and that path will show you light and guidance. The path which God has bestowed his love and mercy.

    • Obama is a man of deception and it is noticeable for one that says he is a Christian and separated from a hate filled black separitist church to run for President and calls the Islamic demi-god the same god as the God of Judah which is a terrible blaspheme and thinks the most beautiful sound he has heard is the sound of the Islamic call to prayer; I am not surprized to hear you quote him. Pity!

      • ms marie, i think that yur words are really caustic. i guess there is no ground for dialogue so i will just continue tomonitor yur comments rather than engage you in any debate or sharing of ideas across our immense divide. i’m sorry that you have these ideas that i am smehw evil but i guess to you yur religion and to me mine. at first you were appearing to be a reasoned, thinking persn. i guess i was wrong. may allaah-oops , god give you more guidance than yu can ever imagine possible. peace.

        • this is one page where both muslim and christian thoughts should be respected.

          so I agree

        • ansar what you perceive as caustic by others are perceived as truth, and when the truth is spoken of in the negative of any religion the same thing is often said because it is taken as an affront. The fact is that if it is said about Christianity or Judaiism by such say as yourself or by Muslims it is generally accepted or ignored because the truth cannot be denied but speaking about the truth in Islam is not allowed. I am aware of this, but, on the other hand I am bound by the warning that when people are in danger because they have done wrong or have been taught wrong things and I know better then I am to blow the shofar and warn them, I am to warn any that they are in danger and taking the wrong path or your blood wouldl be on my head because I knew better and did not speak up and say so.

          This is straight forward but I am to blow the shofar if you will, it is a warning to say you are in danger because of what and who you follow. I am not to cut your head off as Muslims do on the internet. This is not what Jesus has taught and even He gave warnings to everyone He met where it was required. This in fact is part of why He was put to death. If you take this as caustic then that is not how it is meant. They often say the truth hurts…it usually does at first.

  8. I believe that in the Bible it is mentioned that the two most important commandments are to love god with all your HEART, mind and soul and to love your neighbour as yourself.

    • Hi Adzim

      Yes, you are correct. They are commandments that are in the Old Testament, and are repeated by Jesus as the greatest commandments.

      If we love both God and man, with our whole heart, and with our whole mind, and with all our strength, how can we do evil to either one of them?

  9. We are all descendants from Adam and Eve. There is no ‘one of them.’ What differentiates us is our faith and the good that we have done. All of us have to face God someday and answer to what we have done in our lives. We will be rewarded for the good things we have done and punished for the bad things we have done. Ultimately, all of us have to face God.

  10. Imam Mahdi…
    Do you really want to know?
    Do a search here for Tabut al Sakina at wordpress find my article on it, don’t be shocked.

  11. if you cant find it search farook mohammed aka alfaarooq

    • Hi alfaarooq1

      Interesting presentation of the Islamic viewpoint. I always wondered how the Muslims would decide who the Mahdi was.

      I tried to leave a comment on your page, but it said “page error.”

  12. I will never follow someone who claims to be the Imam Mahdi a.s. The guided one won’t do such a thing. Neither would he yearn for authority or followers to feel important or have followers to boost his ego. Thanks for the read.

  13. Imam mehdi is the sign from god that the fight is coming. The imam will become evident to all thr true muslims because he will have the values of the prophet mohammed. Because of the Sunni/Shia divide, we are presented with conflicting opions, the main message behind all relgions, is prepare, prepare for the end because it is closer than you think. For those atheists, life has no meaning if god doesnt exist, everything you do is therefore pointless and you only work towards your own death. God gives life a purpose and a true meaning, without god humanity and all its accomplishments are pointless, religious people work towards a goal, reward, reward for the actions of the life you lived.

  14. Read my article with clarity Abdul Adzim…
    No one is to take an Illah (Deity) besides Allah.

    Read it fully before you suspect things.

    Allah Maaf on your mistakes and I ask Allah Maaf on mine as well.

  15. Make no mistake about it, Muslims worship the devil and in the endtimes they will wage war against GOD and His Annointed (Yeshua Ha’Mashiach) and His people (Israel and righteous gentiles), this was revealed to Psalmist Asaph through the Holy Spirit, and Holy Spirit does NOT lie:

    Psalm 83:
    1 A Song, a Psalm of Asaph.
    2 O God, keep not Thou silence; hold not Thy peace, and be not still, O God.
    3 For, lo, Thine enemies are in an uproar; and they that hate Thee have lifted up the head.
    4 They hold crafty converse against Thy people, and take counsel against Thy treasured ones.
    5 They have said: ‘Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.’
    6 For they have consulted together with one consent; against Thee do they make a covenant;
    7 The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites; Moab, and the Hagrites;
    8 Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
    9 Assyria also is joined with them; they have been an arm to the children of Lot. Selah
    10 Do Thou unto them as unto Midian; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook Kishon;
    11 Who were destroyed at En-dor; they became as dung for the earth.
    12 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb, and like Zebah and Zalmunna all their princes;
    13 Who said: ‘Let us take to ourselves in possession the habitations of God.’
    14 O my God, make them like the whirling dust; as stubble before the wind.
    15 As the fire that burneth the forest, and as the flame that setteth the mountains ablaze;
    16 So pursue them with Thy tempest, and affright them with Thy storm.
    17 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek Thy name, O LORD.
    18 Let them be ashamed and affrighted for ever; yea, let them be abashed and perish;
    19 That they may know that it is Thou alone whose name is the LORD, {N}
    the Most High over all the earth.”

    Edom, Ishmaelites, Moab, Hagrites, Gebal, Ammon, Amalek, Philistia, Tyre, Assyria – ALL of them are modern Arabic or Muslim nations.

  16. @ Gavriel
    Who’s worshiping the Devil? Do you see the Muslims praying to the Devil? Get your facts right… Let the Quran speak for itself:

    Click to access quran-English.pdf

    No where do we pray to satan, you can be charged with defamation of religion for saying what you have said, your claims have no basis.
    May the Curse of The Lord of the Torah be on you for calling Him the devil and for branding His religion.
    Islaam is written everywhere in the Torah and the Gospels of Jesus the son of Mary, even Jesus himself and Moses profess submission to the will of Allah i.e. Islaam, they tell their followers to submit to the will of Allah, Jesus says this is not my will but the will of Him who sent me.
    Israel means “Servant of Allah” “Isra and El” Hear O Isra “Servant of” El “Allah” the Lord, The Lord our Illah (Deity) is One Allah The Most High Most Holy.

    Gavriel learn the Holy Scriptures not just to know but learn to understand.

    1. In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
    2. All Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds,
    3. The Beneficent, the Merciful.
    4. Owner of the Day of Judgment,
    5. Thee (alone) we worship; Thee alone we ask for help.
    6. Show us the straight path,
    7. The path of those whom Thou hast favoured; Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray.

    Oh Allah Thy Kingdom Islaam has come, Thy will be done, On Earth as is in Heaven (Islaam is the Biggest relision) give us this day our daily bread (Spiritual SUSTAINANCE Salaah) for Thine is the Kingdom forever and Ever Ameen!

    • Hi alfaarooq1,

      From what I learned – the merit of Arabic nations is 1300 years, because Ishmael war circumcised at age 13, after the end of that merit – Arabs (generally all Muslim nation) they are left with their own free will – very interestingly extinction of the merit of Ishmael (1300 years) more or less coincides with the return of the Jews to their land and recapturing Jerusalem;

      What I want to say is this – the fact that Arabs beleive in God of Abraham, is NOT through merit of Mohammad, but through merit of Ishmael – and Ishmael was NOT son of the covenant, Jacob was, so by fighting Israel and refusing and not giving Temple Mount to its rightgul owners – Israel, you are rebelling against God and even against your fathers – Abraham and Ishmael…

      I’m sure that you truthfully beleive in your faith just as much as I do, and there is no compromise when it comes to the Word of God – which is Torah, which was fulfilled by God’s only begotten son – Yeshua Ha’Mashiach…I pray that He will help to unite Jacob with Ishmael…but Islamic world does not have anything to say on behalf of One True God, it was long ago corrupted by rebellion against Israel.

  17. This is a letter from Al-Faarook of the UMN Intl Org to the Vatican and Neturei Karta

    In the name of Allah Most Gracious Most Merciful

    Dear Brethren in the faith of the One Lord, our King the Almighty Allah (Eloah), the Incomparably Great, Most Holy, Most High I greet you with Peace.

    As’Salaamu Alaikum (Shalom) In the name of His Highest who is the sole Owner of all the Most Holy and Most Beautiful Names, Attributes/ Titles our Lord the Creator.

    I wish this letter, and open invitation receives you in the best of health.

    It is our common goal in faith to uphold all that is good and forbid all that is evil, this letter comes as a request for your cooperation in the common goals we share.

    As religious leaders, as dedicated believers and scholars of the Holy Scriptures from our Lord, as His agents on Earth it is our duty to protect, assist and guide mankind to that which is good.

    Why fight against the evil forces alone when we can stand in unity for the pleasure of the Lord?

    Let us set aside our differences and work together to fight against the evils of the world.

    The world we live in today is filled with corruption, oppression and an evil that is flourishing amongst our people. It is our duty as religious leaders to uphold and encourage the common good of mankind. The problems we face in our world today is with substance abuse such as drugs, alcohol and a variety of un-Khosher (Haraam) things, unlawful sexual relations before marriage, sodomy and racial discrimination amongst our people. Our Creator has created only one race in mankind and that is the Human race, He divided us into many beautiful nations so we may know each other. Having said this I would like for us to work towards a common good and fight against all evils in unity as we await the coming of the Messiah, this, a token of our preparation for the End.

    For the Almighty Allah Says in the Holy Quran: Q2:62 “Those who believe (The Muslims) and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabaeans whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.”, Q2:63 “And remember O Children of Israel, when We (Allah) have made a covenant with you and caused the Mount to tower above you, (saying): Hold fast that which We (Allah) have given you, and remember that which is therein, that ye may ward off evil.”

    The Almighty Allah says in the Holy Quran: Q5:44 “Lo! We did reveal the Torah, wherein there is guidance and a light, by which the Prophets who surrender to His will judge (rule) the Jews, and the rabbis and the priests (judged) by such of Allah’s Scripture as they were bidden to observe, and thereunto were they witness. So fear not mankind, but Fear Me. And batter not My revelations for a little gain. Whose judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are disbelievers. Q5:45 “Whoso judge not by that which Allah hath revealed: such as wrongdoers.” Q5:46 “We bestowed on him (Eesa / Jesus) the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was revealed before it the Torah a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off evil.” Q5:47 “Let the people of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed; such are evil livers.” Q5:48 “And unto thee (Muslims) We (Allah) revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We (Allah) have appointed a Shariah (divine law) and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you. (He hath made you as ye are) So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.”

    O People of the Scripture lend me an observant ear, we find in our midst today the evil doers promoting a law called democracy, for all they do and command by is said in the name of democracy and not in the Name of our Lord, in their evil system of law religion have no right to judge, in their system the religious head have been removed from the political scene. In this system called democracy the evils of corruption, sodomy, un-lawful sexual relations, theft and usury thrive as it feeds of the oppressed and innocent people. O people of the Scripture let us unite in the common good to ward of evil and stand united against all evils such as sodomism, oppression, corruption etc… and take back the Laws (Shariah) of Scripture, let us restore our family values and shift the world towards peace and a better understanding of all mankind in its beautiful diversity. O people of the Scripture the Shariah (Divine Laws) of the Almighty is complete and needs no adjustment, for it is made clear, it is free from any need for amendment.

    For our Lord says: “Whose judgeth not by that which Allah (Eloah) hath revealed: such are disbelievers.” Disbelievers speak the will of the people but, Believers, the upholders of Shariah (Divine Law) says the will of the Almighty Allah and the rights of the people.

    As Muslims we believe in Allah and the Holy Quran revealed unto us, we believe in His Angels, His Prophets and all that revealed to them, some of which to mention are (the Zabur, Torah, Injeel “Gospels of the Bible”, and the completion of all that have gone before the Holy Quran), and we believe in the Last Day. We are Muslims (People who surrender to His will)

    Brethren in faith I honor thee with the request to prayer, an ancient practice of the Prophets, the very prayer requested by the Prophet Mohammed Sallallahu Alaihi Wa’salaam when he was visited by the High priests of Christianity and the rabbi’s of Judaism of afore time.

    This letter comes to broaden the mission and vision of a common word between us and you, this is for us to work together which in turn will create that brotherly unity, love, respect and peace which we all have hope for, it is not impossible for the Lord our Creator is our help and assistance.

    Brethren Let us pray our Lord:

    In the name of Allah (Eloah) Most Gracious Most Merciful

    All Praise be to Allah (Eloah), Lord of the Worlds,

    The Beneficent, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

    Owner of the Day of Judgment,

    Thee Alone we Worship Thee Alone we Ask for help.

    Show us the straight path,

    The path of those whom Thou has favored; Not the path of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who have gone astray.

    Ameen (Amen)

    Whosoever pleaseth Thee O Lord of all, those whom Thou have favored, have them rule the world by Thine will and cursed be those who displeaseth Thee and have gone astray.

    Ameen (Amen)

    May the Almighty Allah guide us all.

    The United Muslim Nations International Organization calls on all Muslims, Christians and Jews around the world to work together towards common goals in the fight against all evils.

    • Hi alfaarooq1,

      From what I learned – the merit of Arabic nations is 1300 years, because Ishmael was circumcised at age 13, after the end of that merit – Arabs (generally all Muslim nations) are left with their own free will – very interestingly extinction of the merit of Ishmael (1300 years) more or less coincides with the return of the Jews to their land and recapturing Jerusalem;

      What I want to say is this – the fact that Arabs beleive in God of Abraham, is NOT through merit of Mohammad, but through merit of Ishmael – and Ishmael was NOT son of the covenant, Jacob was, so by fighting Israel and refusing and not giving Temple Mount to its rightgul owners – Israel, you are rebelling against God and even against your fathers – Abraham and Ishmael…

      I’m sure that you truthfully beleive in your faith just as much as I do, and there is no compromise when it comes to the Word of God – which is Torah, which was fulfilled by God’s only begotten son – Yeshua Ha’Mashiach…I pray that He will help to unite Jacob with Ishmael…but Islamic world does not have anything to say on behalf of One True God, it was long ago corrupted by rebellion against Israel.

  18. Provide evidence for your claims please… Come have a look at my site (United Muslim Nations International) see Ultimate Religious Debate it’s the Bible VS Christianity! I believe in what Jesus says not what you people “Christians” say!

  19. Both Islam and Christianity are deceptions. They were created from a syncretism of past religions. Elements from Horus, Krishna, Mithras, the code of hammurabi, etc were integrated into the belief system. Read all of the religions before christianity, it will show you the outright fraud of it and therefore the fraud of islam.

    • hi Jeremy

      I know you believe that, and I respect your thoughts. But the promise and story of a savior started in the garden of eden, and was perpetuated throughout the generations that followed.

      Different cultures developed, and kept the story, and with time, lost accuracy somewhat, and added their own style to it. But the story was still the same.

      Each culture wanted to think that it had found its savior. But the prophecy was only fulfilled once, in Jesus.

      Of course, when the Christ story was spread to other nations, they quickly associated it with their own folklore, and started making changes so that it all fit together as one story. this is how Christianity got paganized.

      But the real story is found and preserved in the bible. Salvation will not be found in any pagan religion that imitates the true fulfillment, nor in any religion that paganized the story after wards.

      Salvation will only come through the personal relationship with Jesus himself. This need for salvation will become more apparent as the world gets more evil.

  20. islam is true , but it as that has been corrupted with the ,1st kalifa abu bakkar, omer,usman,thay chit to oll the mankin ,today man is safarin bicous of them,

  21. All of the religions and beliefs that I mention pre-date christ, therefore christ is a corruption of those past religions. It it Christianity and therefore islam which mimic past religions.

    What is this fanatical obsession western christians have with pagans? They seem to hate pagans even more than islam. Ironically, though it is islam doing 100 times more damage to Christianity than any pagan religion ever did. Christians and their idol Jesus (Hare) HORUS Christ (krishna) need to get their priorites straight or they will be come extinct like their fellow idoltaring pagans.

  22. Please read Jesus in the Quran: http://www3.sympatico.ca/shabir.ally/new_page_24.htm

    And please read wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam

  23. All religions preach peace and LOVE. I personally am a Muslim, and am proud. I love Christianity and Judaism, do not get me wrong, but whichever version I read in the Bible has contradictions, and nor rebuttals no matter how much I search! Islam, however, when I read the “contradictions” I immediately know that these are rather fake claims and there are always sensible rebuttals! The arguments Christians and Jews pose on Muslims are very weak and bleak. They can be easily defeated. I love Christ, and all the Jewish prophets, but I also LOVE Prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him and his family. Also, women inherit in Islam, are protected through modest clothing, and are honored more than men! The verse in the Quran that speaks of strike your women, has a different definition in Arabic, which is “stay away” or “Give the silent treatment.” This verse is also specific by saying you may only do this on very, very serious occasions. I’m glad to wear the headdress. Anyway, I invite all to pick up the Quran and read it.

    If you read the Quran, ask a scholar if you have a question, I promise you’ll be satisfied with the answer. Scholars encourage us for questions, unlike Christianity. The priests only tell you to “have faith.” If you learn about Islam and embrace it, than you’ll understand the truth about the awaited one. Imam Mahdi is the grandson of the Prophet Mohamed.The Bible mentions twelve moons form the progeny of Abraham. Prophet Mohamed is the great grandson of Prophet Abraham, and he (Mohamed) has the twelve grandsons who are the imams, and the end with Imam Mahdi (AS). I hope this will help guide you to the truth.


    • hi Zehra

      Thank you for sharing your faith.

      If you have any questions about the bible, I will answer them. I have studied the bible for 40 years.

      There are no contradictions to those who understand it, and have studied it.

      Anyone who says “just have faith” has not read the bible enough to learn it well.

      • Marianne,

        I think you are very confused. Anyway, there are many many contradictions in the bible, but ignorant christians will always find a reason to support the lies in the bible.

        what it comes down to is faith. either you see the light, or you believe in a blind way and cannot be enlightened. i can understand from all your commentary above that you are fixed in your mind, you dont seem to be listening to what others are saying.

        may god help you.

        Abdul Rehman

        ps: 40 years or 140, it doesnt matter, if you go on for 40 years, but in the wrong direction, it doesnt mean you have achoeved something good. Reduce your ego about studying the bible for 40 years and you might wake up and see light.

  24. If Islam is a religion of peace, and if respect and harmony are a goal, then why do they ultimately plan to kill others who do not follow them? That is more than disrespect for someone’s religion.

    Everyone will be forced to “believe” or they will be killed! Giving someone a choice, and then killing them if they do not choose your way is not a way of peace and respect. The threat is always there so it is hard to establish trust.

    • hi Sandi

      Very true. Muslims always claim, as well, that the bible has lies in it. So what are they? how can they prove they are lies? The answer is that they can’t prove there is anything wrong with the bible. In the same way, how can they prove their Koran is superior to the bible? the answer is they can’t. The Koran contradicts itself, yet they stick to it. For the sake of “harmony,” they should read the bible, and see its consistency.

  25. Marianne and Sandi;

    What I find so interesting about this video series is how our “Hypocritical” leaders like George “WMD” Bush, Bill Clinton and Tony Blair are featured at the beginning of video and shortly thereafter.

    The Full Length versions is on

    slam: What the West Needs to Know – FULL LENGTH ENGLISH VERSION

  26. Pardon me for listening in… the real bottom truth is… God has had his protection hand removed from this world.. there will be no peace coming until He does. It matters not about any kind of religion… People in all cross the world had been brain-washed into believing the lie words.. and grasp the control of their souls that would march them into the hell.. Which we all, of course, do not desire to see nor do we want our Almighty God to be disappointed in us for not do something… do something by pearching the gospel.. that’s all I can input at this moment. 🙂

    Many blessings.. and be on guard always.. and keep inner fire going … those are the real bridals.. I do not know how I knew.. I just… do. 🙂

    Take care…

  27. Tamera;

    A lot of people believe they are doing the right thing by being involved in government and making a difference. They are so blind to our corrupt leadership especially when the President calls himself a Christian in a “So called Christian Nations”

    Islam, might get a foothold for a very short period of time in the United States, but I doubt for very long. Especially after reading the Prophecy of David Wilkerson and Jonathan Cahn.


    Something terrible is going to happen to this country.

    If you are a dominionist or a recontructionist or a Catholic you believe in establishing the Kingdom of God and then Jesus will return.



    Even Henry Makow a secular Jew believes


    Conspiracy theorists like myself believe modern history reflects a long-term conspiracy by an international financial elite to enslave humanity.

    Like blind men examining an elephant, we attribute this conspiracy to Jews, Illuminati, Vatican, Jesuits, Freemasons, Black Nobility, and Bildersbergs etc.

    The real villains are at the heart of our economic and cultural life. They are the dynastic families who own the Bank of England, the US Federal Reserve and associated cartels. They also control the World Bank and IMF and most of the world’s Intelligence agencies. Their identity is secret but Rothschild is certainly one of them. The Bank of England was “nationalized” in 1946 but the power to create money remained in the same hands.

    England is in fact a financial oligarchy run by the “Crown” which refers to the “City of London” not the Queen. The City of London is run by the Bank of England, a private corporation. The square-mile-large City is a sovereign state located in the heart of greater London. As the “Vatican of the financial world,” the City is not subject to British law.

    On the contrary, the bankers dictate to the British Parliament. In 1886, Andrew Carnegie wrote that, “six or seven men can plunge the nation into war without consulting Parliament at all.” Vincent Vickers, a director of the Bank of England from 1910-1919 blamed the City for the wars of the world. (“Economic Tribulation” (1940) cited in Knuth, The Empire of the City, 1943, p 60)

    Here’s an Argentina economist “Adrian Sulbachi believes:

    “The Coming World Government: Tragedy and Hope?” offers a unique perspective on how the Global Power Elite operates, what its interests and long-term objectives are, and how they have repeatedly collapsed a country like Argentina using it as a Testing Bench for future actions they then take on a much wider, global scale. Argentina thus has had first hand practical experience on “practical globalization”,

    “Second Republic: “An Idea whose time has come:

    1st Pillar:
    “RESTORE THE SOVEREIGN STATE” – First things first: the Sovereign Nation-State is the only social institution designed to promote the Common Interest of the majority of “We, The People” in every country, and to protect the National Interest against perils from abroad (foreign powers bent on imperial conquest), from above (world government) and […]

    2nd Pillar:
    “RECOVER A SOVEREIGN CURRENCY” – Once each of our countries restores its Sovereign State, then the very first thing we need to do is put our National Currencies back in their proper place, which means subordinating the entire financial, banking and monetary system to the needs of the Real Economy. It means breaking […]

    3rd Pillar:
    “REJECT THE DEBT-BASED ECONOMIC SYSTEM” – This will mean a different thing for different countries. In many Latin American countries – certainly for Argentina – it means thoroughly investigating our Public Debts which were artificially created by pressure from the IMF, the global power elites, the World Bank and the private banking cartel […]
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    4th Pillar:
    “REINVIGORATE OUR REPUBLICAN INSTITUTIONS” – A very key issue, indeed: it means liberating our republican institutions from dependency on the Money Power. Sure, today’s money-addicted “democracy” system is music to the ears of the rich and powerful who can hijack and run entire governments, decade after decade, by just selecting their best employees […]

    5th Pillar:
    “RETURN TO TRADITIONAL VALUES” – Last but not least, True Sovereignty is always Personal Sovereignty. Which means, we can only rebuild our nations, recover our lost freedoms and put things back in order, once we ourselves become living examples of True Values and we get our own priorities right. Once we are properly […]

    I think our country is too far gone for a “Second Republic” But even in Israel I encourage my friends to take their government back from the Elites who want to establish “Jerusalem” as the World Capital.

    This link explains what’s wrong with “The Patriot Movement”

    Israelis are going to be micro-chiped too. We need to share it with them and the Islamic people.

    Click to access MicrochipIsrael.pdf

    Someone shared this with me. I don’t know why she didn’t post it.


    Shalom Ricoel!

    It’s 2009, and here in the Holy Land there is a sense that
    something very different is taking place as God’s end-time plan is
    unfolding before our very eyes.

    Orthodox Jews and their rabbis, also echo that we are living in
    the last days. Even the secular Israeli press is publishing articles
    that Believers interpret as technological advancements leading up
    to the arrival of the anti-Messiah (anti-Christ).

    The Israeli Hebrew daily newspaper, Ma’ariv, recently published
    a story on how the Israeli government has passed laws creating
    “Big Brother” to monitor its citizens here in the Holy Land.

    The Ma’ariv article was entitled: “Big Brother’s Watchful Eye.”

    The feature story focused on Bio-metric microchips that
    are implanted in the body, voice analysis, and super
    government databases that will contain information of all 5.5
    million Israeli Jewish citizens – including very private details
    ranging from a person’s medical files to their physical whereabouts.

    The journalist interviewed an Israeli CEO of a private company in the insurance industry who was summoned to the Israeli Tax Authority. He was told that the government clerk knew when he traveled out of the country, what type of vehicle he bought and when he purchased it. “There is nothing the government does not know about me,” the CEO said.

    Another Israeli man who was

    Then I saw another beast, coming out of the earth. He had two horns like a lamb, but he spoke like a dragon. He exercised all the authority of the first beast on his behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed. And he performed great and miraculous signs, even causing fire to come down from heaven to earth in full view of men. because of the signs he was given power to do on behalf of the first beast, he received the inhabitants of the earth. He ordered them to set up an image in honor of the beast who was wounded by the sword and yet lived. He was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that it could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in his right hand or in his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number. His number is 666.

    applying for a high level security job was sent on a polygraph test. He thought he would be asked many questions, however he was asked only to confirm a few details. “I was stunned when I found out that my potential employer already knew everything about me, and I mean everything,” he said.

    The Israeli government wants to be the world pioneer in the surveillance of citizens.

    Just over one year ago on December 21, 2007, “The Law of Media Data” passed its third reading in the Israeli Knesset (Parliament) which merited the title of “The Big Brother Law.” This law enables the Israeli police, to establish the most extensive informational database on its citizens of any democratic nation in the world.

    The information in this Israeli “police” database will include the names of all Israeli citizens, their phone numbers including “unlisted” phone numbers, and the serial number of their cell phone. It will list each call, the time it started and ended, and ensure exact tracking of where the phone (person) is located.

    The police have also attempted to undertake legislation which would enable them to execute secret searches of Israeli homes without the presence of the homeowner. George Orwell’s vision of Big Brother is definitely coming alive in the Holy Land.

    Today there are approximately 16,000 recorded databases in Israel, the Ma’ariv newspaper article reports. Computers, cellular phones, and security cameras, track Israeli citizens at any given moment.

    Israeli lawyers lobbying for citizen’s privacy rights are not making much progress against Big Brother because the Israeli public welcomes this technology. The public sees the benefit of these applications which help their communities in many areas, from aiding the police to track criminals to helping their hospitals track patient care.

    Amir Liberman, CEO of Nemesysco, (www.nemesysco.com) – a company in Netanya, Israel has developed technology that can “read your thoughts” by voice analysis responses and facial movements. Every Jewish person living in Israel is interested in their family’s personal security, and this technology has already prevented Arab terrorist attacks.

    This Israeli software is currently being used by airports and government agencies worldwide. Customs and Immigration agents use the software when asking travelers the reason why they are entering or leaving a country, or what they are
    bringing into the country. It’s also being used by police and treasury departments worldwide. And here in Israel, this local, homegrown technology has been developed to “read the thoughts” of even its own citizens.

    Ricoel, all the signs here in Israel are pointing to the events that will lead up to Messiah Yeshua’s soon return.

    Do you remember the television show Get Smart? Maxwell Smart may not have been a suave government spy like James Bond 007, but he did have a cool shoe that was a cellular phone. Back then it was just science fiction as they didn’t even have push button home phones. I doubt that Maxwell could have imagined 40 years ago, that today, most people would carry a cell phone which could track their every move via an embedded GPS chip.

    This may all be speculation. However, according to the Ma’ariv article, the Israeli police have The Law of Media Data on their side to gain access to find out where I am right now via the GPS chip in my cell phone, which stays on even when I turn off the phone. The Israeli cellular company I use could be tracking where I am right now, as I write this letter to you. (Thank goodness I have nothing to hide.)

    Aliza, one of our Bibles For Israel ministry staff told me, “Zev, starting 12 years ago, the municipal government of Netanya, (Israel) would only process license tags for my dogs if they were implanted with an identification microchip.”

    Four years ago, I was shocked when watching an ABC News Report about microchips being implanted into the right arm of thousands of people in

    America! I wondered if this had anything to do with Chapter 13 in the Book of Revelation which speaks about the mark of the beast-666 (that no person would be able to buy or sell unless they took the mark). See scripture on page 1.

    These microchips which are the size of a grain of rice are produced by the American Verichip Corporation. Today, they are being implanted into the right arm of people throughout the world and the microchip is approved by the U.S. FDA (U.S Food and Drug Administration). I encourage you to visit their website at: http://www.verichipcorp.com.

    In many South American countries including Mexico and Brazil, the microchips are implanted into the right arm of the police so that the government can properly identify their policemen and allow them into secure areas.

    In nightclubs across the US and Europe, the microchips are injected into their customers’ right arms to prove they are of legal age as well as to collect payment electronically instead of using a credit card or cash. This is the same type of RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) microchip used in cars to electronically monitor when it goes through a highway toll.

    And, today the microchip is being used in hundreds of applications and industries throughout the world. But most shockingly, some countries are now using it to segment their populations.

    On Nov. 24, the Associated Press reported that legislators in Indonesia’s province of Papua support a bill requiring “aggressively sexual” HIV/AIDS patients to be implanted with the RFID microchips to monitor them. The police will fine and jail patients who deliberately infect others with the disease.

    Israel has 4000 years of Biblical history going back to the time of Abraham. However, it is a very modern country with technology being its number one export.

    Did you know that Jerusalem was one of the first cities in the world to have wireless technology?

    Jerusalem is mentioned 792 times in the Bible. It is where the kings and prophets lived, and where Messiah Yeshua will return (to the Mount of Olives). And perhaps leading up to His return is what we are seeing now; a plan to track all citizens in Jerusalem, and throughout the Holy Land.

    Some Believers interpret Revelation 13 as speaking about an anti-Christ, in which technology such as the RFID is used in the end-times to determine who can buy and sell. Associating the RFID microchip with Revelation 13 is just speculation, but perhaps it is also fact…we will only know as time unravels.

    What we do know for sure is that the RFID microchip will soon be mandatory/law for all Israelis to carry with them, as it will be implanted into their Toudat Zahout (Israeli National ID card) as well as Israeli Passports. The RFID chip is already implanted into some U.S. passports

    It is law that an Israeli must carry their National ID card with them at all times, or they can be fined 5000 Shekels (approximately $1400). And, because these ID cards can be lost or stolen, it is plausible to expect a new law in the future requiring the RFID chip to be implanted in the right arm.

    Rico, you are going to be shocked when you read what it says on the Verichip website: http://www.verimedinfo.com/for_patients.asp

    ”VeriMed is the first and only FDA-approved patient identification system that uses an implantable microchip. While that may sound like science fiction, it’s really down-toearth, common sense when it comes to your life. About the size of a grain of rice and inserted just under your skin in the back of your right arm, each VeriMed microchip contains a unique identification number that emergency personnel may scan to immediately identify you and access your personal health information – facilitating appropriate treatment with less delay. VeriMed is there when you need it.”

    In Revelation 13:16, it says: “He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark in his right hand or in his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark…” We must remember that the New Testament was written in Greek, and that John (Yohanan) who wrote the Book of Revelation, was writing it from his Jewish Hebraic perspective. The word for hand in Hebrew is Yad, and arm can also be Yad, as the hand is part of the arm.

    Speaking with Israelis, they welcome an implanted chip because it can save lives. Combined with a GPS chip, it could track Alzheimer’s patients, disabled children who go missing, diabetics or heart patients. In the case of an emergency while traveling, doctors can simply scan their medical information from the implanted RFID microchip.

    So again, is it any surprise that Israel wants to be the world leader in tracking information on its

    You may also want to take a look at the industry leading RFID website (www.rfidjournal.com) that reports on all the companies and applications using RFID technology. It also lists companies using GPS and RFID together. Cisco is one of the leading companies using their wireless routing technology in collaboration with RFID technology.

    At a business dinner he had with Israel’s hi-tech leaders, John Chambers, the CEO of Cisco Systems, a $145 billion company, said: “We’re deeply committed to Israel and intend to acquire more technology companies here,” adding that Cisco has bought more companies (9) in Israel than in any other country outside of the United States. Chambers said that Cisco will be very proactive in Israel because he sees a lot of technological innovation in the Holy Land. He even unveiled a community project which uses technology to advance the peace process.

    According to Daniel 9:27, the anti-Christ will make a covenant with Israel for seven years, which will be broken after three and a half years!

    During this time the Third Temple will be standing in Jerusalem. Today, everything is ready for the rebuilding of the Third Temple. All of the temple artifacts, garments, and the funds to rebuild the Temple are available. Even the Jewish Coheniim (Priests) who have been approved as Cohens based on DNA testing are currently being trained in Jerusalem and are ready for service.

    It has been approximately 18 years since all of these preparations began, and now everything is ready for the rebuilding of the Temple. The only thing standing in the way is the Dome of the Rock, and I believe that under a two state-solution, we will see the Third Temple built. President Bush was pushing for this two state solution, and perhaps under the Obama administration we will see it happen.

    All of these events are unfolding to set the stage for the anti-Christ identified in Daniel 9:27. The verse reads: “He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.”

    We are living in a special time in history!

    It has been 60 years since Israel became a nation again in 1948, fulfilling Biblical prophecy.

    Isaiah 66:8 – Who has ever heard of such a thing? Who has ever seen such things? Can a country be
    born in a day, or a nation be brought forth in a moment? Yet no sooner is Zion in labor than she gives
    birth to her children.

    And in these 60 years, Israel has become a world leader in technology. Out of the ashes of the Holocaust there are now 5.5 million Jewish people living in the Holy Land. As described in Matthew 24, we are seeing the warning signs of the End-Times. Today, gay marriages are legalized in the U.S., Canada, and Europe. We have seen economic turmoil, catastrophic earthquakes, and wars continue worldwide. And again, it is not only Believers who understand the signs; Orthodox Jews will also tell you that we are definitely in the last days.

    So Rico, we must be serious about our relationship with the Lord, and tell others about Yeshua so that they also may be saved. Time is running out!

    You may be thinking, “What does this have to do with the Messianic Prophecy Bible, and our Bibles For Israel Ministry?”

    Everything! There are only an estimated 5,000-8,000 Believers in Israel, that’s the size of one large church in the United States. So with 99.9% of the Jewish people in Israel NOT knowing Yeshua, we have a responsibility to tell them the truth about who the Messiah is, and you can help. With your financial gifts we can get the Messianic Prophecy Bible into the hands of the Jewish people here in Israel and around the world.

    Your help will directly be tied into Zechariah’s Messianic prophecy as we reach the nation of Israel.

    “And I will pour on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem the Spirit of grace and supplication; then they will look on Me whom they pierced. Yes, they will mourn for Him as one mourns for his only son, and grieve for Him as one grieves for a firstborn.” Zechariah 12:10

    Tamera,like you said:

    We are to occupy until “The Rapture” and be “Awake” so we won’t miss it.

  28. http://secondrepublicproject.com/

  29. my english not good

  30. Marianne:

    E-mail Henry Makow too.


    Too bad Aaron Russo is gone too, you could e-mail him too. They are both secular.

  31. Hazrat Imam Mahdi will come soon for all of us and for all the people of the world, not for only one nation or religion. So as Hazrat Isa(Jesus) will come soon InsAllah

    • Yes Jesus will come soon, but he is not the Mahdi. According to revalation he will be preceded by the Beast(Antichrist) who will attack the Israelis. The mahdi and your muslim “prophecies” say the Mahdi will attack Israel. From my point of view, your Mahdi is the antichrist. The question you must ask is whose side do you want to be on? The side of antichrist or the side of Jesus Christ, the Messiah of the Jewish people?

  32. Mahdi and Jesus are two different guy. Jesus will come after 7 years of Mahdi’s arrival. Who said you that Mahdi will attack Israel. Dajjal(beast) will raise from Israel and will have 70000 jews followers. The beast will come to everyone, even you and me to believe him as a God. Only Mecca and Madina will be safe from the Beast. Mahdi is a Imam and he will come to unite people against Dajjal(beast). He will stay for 7 years and then Jesus will come to kill the Beaast.

  33. Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” Matthew 7:15

  34. The Bible warns us that the antichrist will deceive us. Remember, Satan does not come with a pitchfork and pointy horns. That’s not how he works best. He comes as an “angel of light” deceiving, and teaching false doctrine and false Christianity.

  35. Jesus said : “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many.

  36. Where is my Jesus?
    He lives in the heavens.
    In my heart there lives no one.
    And the comforter is but a spirit.
    Wind that is brought about by wings from the angels.
    Hurt gashes until the mind comes to a still.
    Then comes the test from god.
    I yearn for you.

    • abdul

      Jesus lives in the heavens, and he also lives in those who love him and believe in him. He is as close as I am to you. Actually closer. You cannot see him, but he is there. He can be everywhere at the same time. Talk to him, and wait for a reply. Be patient. He hears your cry for help.

  37. Who is Jesus?

  38. Why doesn’t he feed the poor, defend the helpless, unite the world with love and protect his followers? Isn’t he suppose to do all that. Why does he rely on fallible, carnal and sinful people to establish his kingdom on earth. I do not find any meaning in this.

    • Jesus is the Christ, Messiah and the Son of God, who came to earth on a mission for the Father God to redeem mankind from sin.

      It is man’s job to accept this salvation from sin.

      Jesus gave us the job of feeding the poor, and helping the helpless, etc. The problem is that we have failed alot and succeeded a little.

      If we accept his salvation ad grace we will not be living in sin, and we will have the power to do the job he gave us.

  39. I don’t like requirements.

  40. Only those that are guided are free from doing evil. Whether intentionally or not. I am not guided so I’ve done plenty. Even though, I hope for the mercy of God. What I am looking for is the root of guidance. And I look for god. He is not Jesus.

  41. May you enter heaven anyways. Good luck with the fighting.

  42. The Qur’an states in the first Sura after Fatiha that “This is the book, there is no doubt in it, it is a guidance for those who are conscious of God” and so on and so on… It begins that way and continues that way stressing that. And there is one very amazing statement in the Qur’an when you come to the fourth Sura 82nd Ayah which says to those who say Qur’an is something else than the word of God. It challenges them saying: “Have they not considered the Qur’an, if it came from someone other than God they will find in it many mistakes”. Some of you are students, would you dare to hand in a paper after you completed a research work or something at the bottom you put down there “You wont find mistakes in this”. Would you dare to challenge your professor that way?. Well the Qur’an does that. It is telling: If you really think you know where this came from then starts looking for mistakes because you wont find any. Another interesting thing the Qur’an does is that it quotes all its critics. There has never – in hundreds of years – ever been some suggestion as to where that book came from but that the Qur’an does not already mention that objection and reply to it. Many times you will find the Ayah saying something like: Do they say such and such and so, say to them such and such and so. In every case there is a reply. More than that the Qur’an claims that the evidence of its origin is in itself, and that if you look at this book you will be convinced.

    So the difference in Christianity and Islam comes down to a difference of authority and appeal to authority. The Christian wants to appeal to the Bible and the Muslim wants to appeal to the Qur’an. You can not stop by saying: This is true because me book say it is, and somebody else would say something else is true because my book says differently, you can not stop at that point, and the Qur’an does not. The Christians may point to some words that it is recorded Jesus said and say this proves my point. But the Muslim does not simply open his book and say: No, no the Qur’an says this, because the Qur’an does not simply deny something the Bible says and say something else instead. The Qur’an takes the form of a rebuttal, it is a guidance as the opening says (Huda lil mutakeen). So that for every suggestion that the Christian may say: My Bible say such and such, the Qur’an will not simply say: No that is not true, it will say: Do they say such and such then ask them such and such. You have for example the Ayah that compares Jesus and Adam. There are those who may say that Jesus must have been God (Son of God) because he had no father. He had a woman who was his mother, but there was no human father. It was God that gave him life, so he must have been God’s son. The Qur’an reminds the Christian in one short sentence to remember Adam – who was his father ? – and in fact, who was his mother ? He did not have a father either and in fact he did not have a mother, but what does that make him? So that the likeness of Adam is the likeness of Jesus, they were nothing and then they became something; that they worship God.

    The Bible is a collection of writings by many different authors. The Qur’an is a dictation. The speaker in the Qur’an – in the first person – is God talking directly to man. In the Bible you have many men writing about God and you have in some places the word of God speaking to men and still in other places you have some men simply writing about history. The Bible consists of 66 small books. About 18 of them begin by saying: This is the revelation God gave to so and so… The rest make no claim as to their origin. You have for example the beginning of the book of Jonah which begins by saying: The word of the Lord came to Jonah the son of Elmitaeh saying… quote and then it continues for two or three pages.

    There are many mistakes in bible You have for example at 2nd Samuel 10:18 a description of a war fought by David saying that he killed 7000 men and that he also killed 40000 men on horsebacks. In 1st Chronicles 19 it mentions the same episode saying that he killed 70000 men and the 40000 men were not on horsebacks, they were on foot. The point be what is the difference between the pedestrian and not is very fundamental.

    Matthew 27:5 says that Judas Iscariot when he died he hung himself. Acts 1 says that no he jumped off a cliff head first. If you study Logic very soon you will come in your course to what they call an “undecidable propositions” or “meaningless sentences” or statements that can not be decided because there is no contextual false. One of the classic examples sited is something called the Effeminites paradox. This man was Cretan and he said “Cretans always lie”, now was that statement true or false? If he was a Cretan and he says that they always lie is he lying? If he is not lying then he is telling the truth then the Cretans don’t always lie ! You see it can not be true and it can not be false, the statement turns back on itself. It is like saying “What I am telling you right now is a lie” would you believe that or not? You see the statement has no true content. It can not be true and it can not be false. If it is true it is always false. If it is false it is also true.

    Well in the Bible at Titus 1:12 the writer is Paul and he is talking about the Cretans. He says that one of their own men – a prophet – said “Cretans always lie” and he says that what this man says is true. It is a small mistake, but the point is that it is a human mistake, you don’t find that if you carefully examine the true content of that statement. It can not be a true statement.

    You go to the index of the Qur’an, you look up the name ISA it is in the Qur’an 25 times, you lookup the name Adam it is there 25 times. They are equal, through scattered references but 25 of each. Follow that through and you will find that in the Qur’an there are 8 places were an Ayah says something is like something else, using this (Mithel), you will find in every case and take both sides of it whatever that word is look it up in the index and it will be lets say 110 times and lookup the other word and it will be said to be equal to the same 110. That is quite a project of co-ordination if you try to write a book that way yourself. So that everywhere you happened to mention that such and such is like such and such that then you check your index, filing system, or your IBM punch cards or whatever, to make sure that in this whole book you mentioned them both the same number of times. But that’s what you will find in the Qur’an.

    What I am talking about is built on a thing that is called in Logic: Use and Mention of a Word. When you use a word, you are using its meaning. When you mention a word, you are talking about the symbol without the meaning. For example, if I say Toronto is a big city – I used the word Toronto as I meant this place Toronto is a big city. But if I say to you Toronto has 7 letters, I am not talking about this place Toronto, I am talking about this word – Toronto. So, the revelation is above reasoning, but it is not above reason. That is to say we are more up not to find in the Qur’an something that is unreasonable, but we may find something that we would have never figured out for ourselves.

    The author of this sentence said if this book came from someone besides God then you will find in it many Ikhtalafan (inconsistencies). The word Ikhtilaf is found many times in the Qur’an. But the word Ikhtalafan is only found once in the Qur’an. So there are not many Ikhtilafan in the Qur’an, there is only one – where the sentence is mentioned. So you see how things are put together perfectly. It has been suggested to mankind: Find a mistake. Man could not get hold of a mistake, and he is very clever, because this sentence could also mean: Find many Iktilafan and so he quickly goes to the index to see if he can find many of them and there is only one…….

    • dear Hassan

      I think you are focused so much on details that you have missed the message of the gospels. As you said, some books are direct words from the prophets and some are just historical summaries.

      2 Samuel was written by the prophet samuel and is to be trusted. For some reason the Hebrews had someone , a scribe, compose a history of their people, and to do this, he would have had to copy from samuel and others. This is a human mistake, and not to be confused with the inspired word of God from a prophet. But this small error does not take away from the truth that is recorded, which is the battle itself, who fought in it, and who won.

      The matthew account just indicates that Judas went off to hang himself. Apparently Judas did not do a good job of this, and fell to the ground, and died. he must have hit something sharp on the ground to have his insides bust open. Matthew would not have mentioned hanging unless there was a rope or noose at the scene of the death. The bible never said Judas jumped off a cliff. It appears he fell out of the noose to the ground.

      It is important to understand the context of the passages, and not look only at one verse.

      The bible is true in its message. What is a concern is that the quran denies the words of jesus as to who he is. Jesus said himself that he was (1) the son of God, and (2) the son of man. This is a long discussion, so I will not put it here. You need to understand what he meant by this, and from what muslims say, it is apparent that they don’t. what is also a contradiction is that the quran agrees that the gospels are true, then says the bible is corrupt.

      the bible is true. you just have to comprehend what it is really saying.

      Again, it is what something really means that is important, not what you think it says, or what someone else says it means. Jesus made it very clear, and so did the scriptures that predicted his arrival, that he was the spirit son of the Father in heaven, that he pre-existed in heaven with the Father god, and that this relationship was still true while he came to earth. He was the first “human” to make a claim like this, and this includes adam. If you honor jesus, then you have to honor his words. jesus did not lie.

      The gospels also are written by eye witnesses, men who were with Jesus. They all died in their faith, being willing to defend what they wrote.

      each may have observed a different scene or situation, as not all of them were with him at all times. For example, only John was at the cross, as the others were afraid and hiding. So his account is the best.

      The most important question is “who is jesus and what is his message.”

      I suggest you read the book of john….it will not take long…that will give you a good view.

      I also want you to know that I think christians have not done a good job explaining their faith to others. If they had, Islam and christianity would be the same faith. The bible is correct, but I have heard explanations that are wrong. People put too much faith in humans explaining their religion to them, and not enough thinking and prayer on their own.

      I have pages here on this site to explain such concepts, but I will not refer to them yet, since this answer to you is long, and I don’t want to make it longer.

      blessings to you

      • Judas was “full” of the devil (Satan entered into him) and I suppose a large amount of demons too. Evil loves company.
        During the end times – men will try to kill themselves but can not and I wonder if Judas tried to hang himself but could not get the job done because he was full of demons too (my guess).

        • Some good people rather kill themselves than go to church then secretly worship the devil. You know what I mean, mister? Hmmm?

          • Judas died on the cross Jesus did not. And the world will have cavities.

            • abdul sweetheart.

              Judas killed himself when he was alone by himself.

              there were witnesses and roman records of the death of jesus. no tricks or changing bodies..the soldiers were watching everything.

              • Marianne mommy, just as prophet muhammad was about to be killed Allah saved him. Its the same with Jesus.

                • Allah brought Jesus into the heavens as he was about to be captured and made Judas the betrayer to look like him. After the torture and crucifixion, after having birds and vultures pecking on his eyes and body when they brought him down from the cross

    • It is obvious Hassan that you are reading the Muslim revisionist version of the bible because your silly quotes which are incorrect can only be coming from the Islamic re-forged versions of the Bible so I will tell you what It says in Rev 22: 18 19 says and I will give you the actual quote and not one made up by Islam as I see you have done because it relates specifically to any who distort the Word of God as your quotes have done….which can only come from the re-written Islamic version, God shall take their part in the Book of Life.

      18 For[i] I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book:

      If anyone adds to these things, God will add[j] to him the plagues that are written in this book;

      19 and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy,

      God shall take away[k] his part from the Book[l] of Life, from the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

  43. Three rocks for the price of one.
    One that is many.
    At a time unknown.
    But known to the elite.
    Will then come a saviour.
    Under curtains of war.
    Fighting for freedom.
    From prices that soar.

  44. A left turn, a down turn.
    A bit of shaking.
    Smoke in your eyes.
    And a puff of oxygen.
    Never mind the fire blazing.
    We’re all in it together.
    Where are you Mr. Burn?
    I heard you whisper.

  45. I was born in the back woods, and raised by a bear.
    I’ve got a double row of jaw teeth, and a double coat of hair.
    I’ve got a steel belly gut, and 40inch gun,
    I don’t call the government, the government runs to me.
    I’m a Texas Marine!

  46. Shoot two birds with one stone.
    Aim rockets at the moon.
    Blow bubbles in the sun.
    Make love in the winter.
    So what will happen in the new year?

  47. hi guys

    • hi dimik

      How are you doing? You have not been here for awhile.

      • Yeah, it’s been a long time. I hadn’t any internet package for couple of months.
        Sometime i use internet from my University and now i brought again a new package for 1 month 😀
        Anyway, so how are you Marianne?

        • hi dimik

          I am fine. We are all still here, having friendly discussions and good arguments, and talking about God.

          I hope you are having a good time in school, and you are learning a lot.

  48. Captain! Three meteorites ahead!

  49. Mother I love you. But I am not strong.
    The weight of your love is to heavy for my shoulders.
    Time and time again I have disappointed you
    as I am the lesser man. How I pray to God that I could
    provide for you and love you as I am.
    I will be strong mother and so help me God I will carry you.

  50. Would you love to deceive?
    When life shows you an out of turn.
    When your time is up.
    When there is no chance at honesty.
    The choice is yours.
    Go to your room.

  51. Who are you that I need you.
    When you give me nothing but worries and show me fear.
    And the chosen ones you cause to fight with another.
    This game is helpful to you and I wonder why?
    What is good cease to endure and its us that earn your anger?
    Will you not be wise and please us when we please you?
    Not even to those who pray to you day and night?
    But you do promise good in the life hereafter.
    Show your love to the world.

    • When I found you, you returned me to a world of dread.
      You showed me beauty.
      Then you showed me pain.
      To suffer in your name?
      I’ve seen your love but I returned hate.
      Is is the same with all your other messengers?

  52. Dit is de beste blog voor iedereen verlangens te zoeken naar uit over dit onderwerp. Je realiseert kennisgeving zo veel haar bijna uitputtende ruzie met je (niet dat ik eigenlijk zou moeten … haha). Je zeker zet een nieuwe een onderwerp dat is al veel geschreven over jaren. Grote , simpelweg leuk!

  53. Hehehe.

  54. Marry me.

  55. How about lunch?

    • There’s an indonesian girl who wants to get married to me. I hope you’ll steal me away from her.

      • The love I’m looking for.
        Is the compassion of a mum.
        The strength of a woman.
        Built by the experience of raising kids.
        The constant showering of affection.
        From a love unconditional and admonishments that are pure.
        Mothers know best.
        And the woman is you.

  56. Is Obama – a Muslim – a Christian….or is he without a belief in anything beyond himself?

    • obama beleives in satan. and he is the antichrist, the mahdi the muslims have been waiting for.

  57. DaOne sat in a BLT marxist Church for 20 years. Rev. Wright was his pastor, and Rev. wright hates America, and hates white people.

    DaOne grew up a Muslim. Learned Islam inside a Madrassa. His Father is a British subject, and his Mother is American. It appears he is an American, but not Native born. that means his Father is British, and he should not be POTUS.

    One can see his Marxism, in the illegal alien invasion, the moon god worshipers being allowed into the country by the millions, the Obama care, gun walking by Justice, and growing the government during a dpression.

    • I’m looking for Abdul’s reply.
      Leatherneck, I reckon we know his politics are not in-line with the Consitution, Bill of Rights or the democratic party of JFK. That party is long gone and most of the GOP of Lincoln too.
      I recall the folks (family and friends of family of BHO) in Kenya and Indonesia say BHO is Muslim. Just wanted Abdul’s best guess or what the word is back home.

  58. To a lady named Gabriel.

    Hold the key my lady.
    Blue is what I’ve known.
    Blue is what I see.
    You’ve heard the power of my love and voice.
    When life has no solution.
    No way back but in.
    No way back but in.
    And light is no delusion.
    I offer you whats yours.
    But hurt will what you’ll be feeling again.
    But feel.

  59. I am Mahdi glad to meet you all.

  60. hi

  61. To be “unity”.

    1. Believe only to the God, forget all the names.
    2. Forget all the religions name, that’s the pure “Islam”.
    3. Forget all the knowledge about religions.
    4, forget all you are come from.
    5.Try to emptying your mind.
    6.Try to live as the new baby born lives.

    # Don’t follow me, because all of you, is the Leader , just follow the thru #.

    regards; mahdi.

    • It’s about time you showed up. I was starting to wonder if you were getting all that beer, and pork skins I have been sending via UPS to the well.

      Do you support Iran’s desire to wipe off Israel from the face of the earth, then the Great Satan?

      • Dear; leatherneck. I am never support any killing. No one can wipe off Israel from the face of the earth, except God. thanks.

    • In other words if you do as Basir says and you become an empty headed muslim that follows a pedophile killing murdering false prophet called Muhammed and you can think it is an angel because you have emptied your head and heart of all sense, facts and truth. No thank you I will not take such an ugly mark of Islam as you offer! But for anyone who has read such junk and it is junk, this is how you can become possessed of the evil spirit of Islam, or anything else that makes such an offer. Give me good hard reality anyday. I want to face the Lord with what He gave us and not what Islam requires us all to cast away for their paper class demons!

      • I´m a Christian and my parents are muslims. If muslims had a brain they would understand that Islam is copied and modified from Judaism and Christianity but they don´t have any brain so they don´t understand that they belong to the devil and when Jesus will start his next mission he will burn them with fire and brimstones and then they will burn in hell forever.

      • Dear Adam. i know the Koran is,as your explanation, thank you, the actually Koran is “our brain” only the brain, who can chose this is wrong or right, not the books. when we a follower of somebody, we are not the follower of God. “Mahdi” means “Guidance”. sorry for the grammar. best regards.

      • Dear marie jean. i am my self is ,Basir, Mahdi is the “guidance”, “Imam Mahdi” means the “leader of guidance”, The mind of baby new born is a pure mind. no Islam, no christian etc in the baby mind. “emptying mind” that means, we must thinking out of the box, specially in religion.thanks.

  62. I am not a believer of of any prophets, i am a believer of God only.

  63. dear Marianne. “mahdi” is the pure information or guidance for human being who believed it, and not forcing some body to believe it.

  64. My Dear…… If you read, your holy books? you can identified by your self, where is the Man talking, or where is the God’s commandments. The indications of God’s commandments is example; # I am God. the creator of the universe #. If any words says : Gods is a creator of the universe. this is the man words.

  65. 01.
    `My beloved one. I am God, the creator of the universe, I m create a man from your mother’s and your father’s loves. when you want to find me, I around you. I am not a human, and I am not a material. I am watching you always.

    The pagan man is the man who do not using their brain to think what their reads, and speaking loud what i am speak. you don’t need to see me, because i am a watcher of the universe, I am in secret, no body knows who is my name.

    If you feel you are in sin and you want to apologize to me, you must be in alone, no man as a witness. and leave all what you do before and what you know about your religions before.

    The Pure religion is must be no marks,no symbols,no idolatrous.

    The religion is the straight way of your live. do all what you know best and don’t mixed with what do you know bad. keep your self in save and help the others if you can.

    Eat and drink what you like to eat and what you like to drink except will make you sick and die. no more ” haram and halal” for foods and drinks.

    you don’t need to specially pray to me, you only thinking of me if you want to pray ,event you in walking or in traveling.

    Don’t believe any prophets and angels. is all over. because you don’t and you never see it. you can learning the history, as a knowledge only, but don’t you follow it.

    Be aware of magician, except for entertainment only. I will not to force you to believe me and will not to force you to believe this all my words.

    I need you to change your self by your own thinking.

    The best between you, is who believing me, and who is doing right and do the good things. this is the way to the heaven. you not necessary to hope heaven in your lives. this will be automatic.

    Remember… Only Satan and devil will not believing me.; (God).

    ( mahdi)


    • If you are G-d, what is my real name?

      Works will not get you to Heaven, only the grace of G-d least any man should boast. The word made flesh was murdered, and rose from the dead for human sin. This is the love of G-d the Father.

      The Mahdi is part of a pagan religion. The cult of death. Also, it is known as the cult of the god Sin.

  66. Dear; leatherneck, If you ask direct to me as Basir, sorry ,I am a man. but I suggest you, to Ask G’d directly, G’d will tell your real name. G’d will answer your question into your mind and into your pure heart. thanks.

    • Some muslims say Jesus will come back from heaven and land on a white mosque in Damascus. And That Jesus is the 12 mahdi. When Jesus start his next mission they will destroy Damascus in a earthquake and prove they are wrong.

    • G-d wants to know why you deny his love called the word made flesh.

      • Dear ; leatherneck. I believe g-d know everything.
        As i know, G-d has a relativity law founded by Einstein, maybe G-d can use them loves called ” The words made flesh”. only in different situations, like in creating ; Adam, Eva and Jesus.
        Sorry… i will never mixing my words and the G-D’s words. thank you.

        • Your nothing more than a moon god worshiper writing pagan crap on a Christian web site. You deny Jesus was murdered, and rose from the dead for human sin. I defend your right to do so.

          Take your hate for Jesus to the warriors for the god of the Kaaba website. There you will find like minded individuals writing death to Jews, and the Great Satan.

          Just remember, Muhammad married a girl at 7, then raped her at 9. That is what Islam follows. Now, submit to the god of the Kaabba, and do not make friends with Jews, or Infidels.

          • I do not see where Basir indicated he hated Jesus. He just sounds a little confused.

            • After so many times of writng on a Christian web site, and not writng anything about G-d’s love for mankind, it is apparent who believes in the word made flesh.

              If folks don’t, I support their right to do so. However, the continued denial shows he knows where he is at, and what he is writing. I called him out on it. He states he never met Jesus.

              Unless one is about 2000 years old, one will not met Jesus. His heart is harded, and I have turned the other cheek enough. I refuse to be a fool in a world that is full of hate for G-d’s love.

              I see no questions from him, just pagan statements.

          • I am not believe Muhammad as a prophet. many confuse story about him. I am never hate Jesus, because I am never meet him face to face . I’m not of a moon god worshipers, I am not a follower of any prophets. “God is God” , “Jesus is Jesus”. all changes in the believe system is always make the controversial.. for my self,Kaaba is the center of the great Satan. I am read all the holy books only for reference as a history of human being to find the truth, but the thru must be directly from God of the universe. the important things of the human believe system is how to communicate with God directly and how to receive massage comes from god directly. thanks. basir.

  67. Everyone can make the prediction, its OK. no one knows what exactly will haven in the next. thanks Adam.

  68. Subject under Muslim Knowledge
    In The Name of Allah The Most Respect full The Most Gracious
    I am giving you this Azan (a call) to truth and justice and may Allah be my witness in grave
    The so called shitte countdown is not just a belief of Shia brothers but All the Muslims.
    First i should tell you that the Islamic prophecy did not mention any dates or years like you said but your source of information is incorrect. PLEASE READ THIS MESSAGE TILL THE END so you would come to know the truth.
    Imam Mehdi: (before appearance)
    >a bird of steel would hit the tallest building (9/11 conspiracy to blame Muslims, rather to be honest every one was killed except any Jew, all of the jews were absent that day)
    >earthquakes and tsunamis
    >All Muslim states would be on war against internal and foreign threats
    >A western general, who could not walk, Canadian born (known as Canatia at ancient times) would bring the forces of west to Kirghizstan (Afghanistan)…..American General, to whom Bush gave the honors to announce that America is attacking Afghanistan had his legs cut off (injured in war) he was born in Canada and he was leader of early troops attacking Afghanistan
    >Meteorites would pass the earth
    >the year before his appearance during time of Hajj, a lot of Blood would be Shed
    >***** the year before his appearance during time of Ramadan there would be 2 lunar and 1 solar eclipse. Lunar would happen on 1st or 2nd than solar on 15th than lunar on 29th or 30th.this hasn’t happened yet. It was just 2 lunar no solar
    >12 people would be present to welcome him in Makah
    Imam Mehdi: (during his time)
    > First not all the Muslims sates would accept him as Imam but soon every Muslim nation would recognize him and help him
    >He would form a group (their flag would be of black color) who would conquer the India (Gazwa Hind)
    >he would stay in Afghanistan and fight the invaders
    >70 nations having more than 70thousand army each would fight him
    >his war prisoners would turn to Islam (not because he would force them but because of his patient and humble nature)
    >the armies would say that they would cease fire if he hands over the prisoners who turned to Islam, but he will reject this offer.
    >he would live for 7-9 years
    Anti-Christ: (before appearance)
    >the world would have severe droughts
    >Muslims would have conquered a city with river on one side, forest on other and having big boundary walls.
    >he would appear in a place called Yahudia (town in Iran or place in Israel)
    Anti-Christ (During his time)
    >He would live for 40 days (1st compared to 1 year, 2nd compared to 1 month, and 3rd to 1 week, rest 37 would be normal days)
    >he would have the fastest ride
    >he would ride to every town on earth, but could not enter Makah or Medina rather he would camp outside
    >he would have control over every aspect of life and nature (clouds, fertilized lands crops etc.)
    >he would have paradise in one hand and hell in other hand (it would be a deception, reality would be opposite) his heaven would be actually hellfire
    >he would find the lost treasure of Hazrat Sulaeman (buried bellow jursalim)
    >form headquarters in Israel
    >he would have a spiked hair, redneck, born with teeth; he will have lose eyes and could only see from one eye.
    >First he would announce that he is a Prophet later he would say that he is a god. When his time will be near end he would rub his hands and say that Allah I have completed my duty (to challenge the faith of believers)
    >Arabic words (KUFAR) meaning falsehood would be written of his forehead and every believer weather he knows to read or is illiterate would still be able to read and understand.
    Hazrat Isa (Jesus):
    >he would appear in mosque in Syria
    >Hazrat Mehdi would be starting a group prayer when a voice from sky would announce that Isa son of Maryam has appeared. Then people would bring a ladder and he would climb down of the minarets. Imam Mehdi would continue leading the prayer and Hazrat Isa would follow that prayer (namaz).
    >After the prayer Hazrat Isa would order to open the gates of mosque (other side army of Anti would be present)
    >they would be out matched by Prophet Isa’s power
    >when Anti-Christ would come face to face he would know that his time is over so he would try to flee
    >Hazrat Isa would kill him in a place in Israel
    >every tree of a garden in Israel will speak out that a jew is hiding behind me kill him
    >the justice would be restored and there would be no other religion left except Islam
    >Hazrat Isa would live for 40 years, he will get married
    >During those 40 years Gog Macgog tribes would appear and he would pray to Allah to finish them
    >During those 40 years no one will die or even get sick, a child would be safe playing with a snake
    >he would be buried beside Prophet (SWA) in Medina
    >before his death he would announce the next Caliph after who will lead after him.
    These might seem to be fiction at the moment but then again many predictions have come true. Prophet (SWA) said that all the Prophets before me have warned their nations about Anti-Christ, he would be the biggest challenge and deception in the history. He would lie when he says he is prophet because no prophet would come after me and he would lie when he says he is god because Allah is One. He also said that don’t go near him and avoid him if your faith is weak because his deceptions and trick would impress you.
    The war would be of Muslims against the nonbelievers (atheists) I think because Christians would accept Islam as Hazrat Isa would reappear as a Muslim.
    There are 3 kinds of groups:
    1) Who stand for justice 2) the crowd (spectators) 3) who stand against the justice
    I can understand that at this time you won’t like my call, you won’t consider group 1 as your choice. But I request you to be at least in group 2 and act after understanding everything.
    The rules of war set by Prophet (SWA) during his time would be implied this time:
    >no woman or child should be harmed
    >no old person should be harmed
    >no tree or crop should be harmed
    >the killer should not hold any personal grudge
    >anyone who hides should be harmed
    >anyone who hides in house of Suffyan (Prophets (SWA) former enemy and leader) should be harmed
    >only defend against those who try to harm you
    It is my Wakeup Call, open call for every one of you, I took this time out to state you the correct events these are also present in ancient Hinduism long before appearance of Islam and also in Christians. But the bible has many versions (tempered by humans) whereas Quran is in its pure state up till now. Please do research before spreading rumors. May Allah show His mercy upon you. And only those can understand the truth who wants to. Please do research on True Islam and Quran and Prophet (SWA)
    And do not believe the fake stories media implies on you.
    Thank you for your patience

    • M.Burraq Mubarak said this on January 6, 2013 at 2:53 pm You said….

      But the bible has many versions (tempered by humans) whereas Quran is in its pure state up till now. Please do research before spreading rumors. May Allah show His mercy upon you. And only those can understand the truth who wants to. Please do research on True Islam and Quran and Prophet (SWA)……..

      You obviously do not understand what happens when scripture is TRANSLATED into someone elses language for the versions are only that….Wat a lie!

      What a lie …there is nothing pure about the vile koran and the pedophile who directed the roots of Islam, Muhammed. There is absolutely nothing pure about the Qu’ran or Hadiths or Surah. They are written about a pedophile and murderer Muhammed full of hate for his neighbor and who was vile at every turn and as for the vile books of Islam that have been so altered over your small 1400 years of violence and killing, it has always been altered and corrected with many additions.

      The scriptures kept by the Jews is indeed true and pure in its original tongue , both Old and New Testaments have never been altered in the original Hebrew Aramaiic and Greek. They remain the same todayas they were through the ages and everytime I hear someone telling that lie that it is changed it makes me sick and displays the ignorance you speak with, it is a lie.

      Muslims change those scriptures all the time and tell false stories about all of the scriptures because theyt think they have a right to and have re-written them to suit your lies…because you people have altered them as have other language translators and this is only where there are alterations, outside of the original which many of us read and use today. There are no alterations in the original tongues of the Bible and many of us only use them to read and learn and study the true Word of God.

      You even preach that bloody handed and pedophilic Muhammed is spoken of in the scripture when it clearly speaks of the Holy Spirit and that is and abomination to lie so as it is an unforgiven sin.

      And I tell you your Mahdi is Satan in the guise of the beast and false prophet and the head of the new Ottomans rising up against Israel and the rest of the world and the God of Heavan and earth and the Lord Jesus who when He returns to restore all things and destroy the beast of Islam and false religions of the earth shall indeed show all the truth of these lies. Holy you are not when preaching the false prophet Muhammeds’ evil messages directed from Hell.

      I understand that truth very well as you preach of your false prophet and not in love do you preach but as the deceiver spoke to Adam and Eve slyly wiith a silken tongue, so has he spoken to all of you as you speak to us and prepare for war. as the qu’ran dictates you to kill us all…you prepare Islamic evil against righteousness and truth. You preach lies and that is the truth!

      • I tell you all this truth because only your repentance and turning away from the lies and bloody works of Islam and calling out to Jesus who can save you is what is necessary. This cry and warning delivers me from the blood guiltness of not telling you the evil path you have chosen and the evil way of death that Islam leads all to.

      • muslims believe what they believe..

        so we should witness the truth to them…giving facts.

        • Excuse me but, I was responding with a rebuttal to a lot of untrue statements made against Judaiism and Christians and Islamic practice and facts by someone who is witnessing Islam to this site. I apologize for misunderstanding the purpose of everyones discussions here and withdraw……or was that statement made solely to me against against takiing part in discussion and rebuttal? Doesn’t matter since I am not here to do what you say I should….I am here seeking out fellowship and and discussion and have obviously misunderstood things.

  69. *any one who hides should NOT be harmed

    • What was the name of the moon god worshiper that took credit for 9-11? Ummm. I think he just got shot a few months ago.

    • An Ode to ‘Islamic Truth’

      by Raymond Ibrahim
      January 7, 2013
      Inasmuch as Salafis are vile and violent, so too must they be credited with being refreshingly frank and honest, especially in comparison with the “moderate”—that is, mendacious—Muslim Brotherhood.

      To understand this, one must first understand that Salafis are simply modern day Muslims who closely pattern themselves after the very earliest Muslims, specifically those generations that coincided with Islam’s so-called “Golden Age,” beginning with Muhammad’s rule, followed by the first four “righteous caliphs,” circa. 622-656.1

      Along with the Quran, Salafis slavishly follow the hadith accounts—the many words and deeds attributed to Muhammad as well as his closest companions. In other words, they espouse the mentality of 7th century Arab jihadis and usurpers.

      Whereas a few decades ago, knowledge of the word salafi was limited to Muslim scholars and theologians—the so-called ulema, literally, “they who know”—today, millions of Muslims identify with Salafism. Similarly, although the word was popularized in Egypt, where the Salafi party won the most votes second to the Muslim Brotherhood, many Muslims, past and present, have conformed to its identity, though under different epithets; for example, Saudi Arabia’s “Wahabbis” and al-Qaeda are Salafis.

      The one saving grace of Salafis, that serves non-Muslims who wish to learn the truth concerning Islamic law and teachings, is that they are immensely proud of their Islamic heritage—as one would have to be to meticulously uphold the practices of 7th century desert people. Like the earliest Muslim conquerors drunk with power and pride, convinced that Allah was on their side and they can do no wrong, today’s Salafis are unabashed when it comes to the things of Islam—from evoking them to upholding them.

      Unsurprisingly, then, it is Salafi-minded Muslims who routinely evoke and uphold any number of things deemed absurd or evil in a Western context—from trying to enforce a canonical hadith that compels women to breastfeed adult men (ironically, to protect their “chastity”) to drinking camel urine for good health, to calling for the destruction of all churches. In all cases, Muhammad said so.

      While examples are legion, consider this poetic ode to the importance of truth in Islam—in the context of disavowing Christians and Sufis (AKA moderate Muslims)—as captured in a recent video of an Egyptian sheikh:

      For this umma [Muslim world], here is true love: to spell out the word of truth—otherwise, what good will it do to consent to fallacy, which leads to everyone’s downfall, if not today then tomorrow? Hence the necessity to speak the truth. It is absolutely unacceptable—this falsification and fraud, and this hypocrisy, that some practice under the garment of love—those [Muslims] who take Christians or Sufis in their embrace. And none of them speaks a word of truth, to show the meaning of Loyalty and Enmity [the Quran’s notoriously divisive doctrine of wala wa bara]. Such [Muslims] live and die as they are—under the illusion that they are on the right side. Because you have shown them [Muslims who err by befriending non-Muslims] nothing but love, friendliness and fraternity, shown them nothing but silence and concealment. Therefore, you can be responsible for them on the Day of Judgment. Better for you and them to speak the truth, saying [all quotes from Quran]: “They surely blaspheme who say that Allah is the third of three”; “They surely blaspheme who say that Allah is the Messiah, [Jesus] son of Mary”; “The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the Son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; they but imitate what the infidels of old used to say—Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded from the Truth!”; “They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah and Messiah, son of Mary, while they were commanded to worship none but one god”…. Learn how to speak the word of truth and how to pronounce it publicly, in the face of the old and the young, the man and the woman, the ruler and the subject: “As for those who strive in Our cause, We shall surely guide them to Our Ways.”

      Thus the Salafis openly say what other Islamists—notably the Muslim Brotherhood—refuse to say, but do with their actions. For example, while the Salafis have always been adamant about their demand to empower the totality of Sharia in Egypt’s Constitution, the Muslim Brotherhood has not—even as MB leader and Egyptian president Muhammad Morsi is now doing everything in his power to impose Sharia on Egypt.

      Raymond Ibrahim is a Shillman Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center and an Associate Fellow at the Middle East Forum.


      1 Afterwards, there was Islam’s first schism, or First Fitna—the first, that is, of countless to plague the Islamic world, past and present—which, among other things, saw the Sunni-Shia split and led to the establishment of, according to the Islamic narrative, the unrighteous and largely un-Islamic Umayyad empire, whose only notable Islamic activity was to continue the jihad on Christendom—specifically against Constantinople, but also into western north Africa and into Europe through Spain—in order to plunder and subjugate.

      Related Topics: Radical Islam | Raymond Ibrahim

  70. Marianne..

  71. Daddy, what is China?
    Oh, it used to be a big country. Now its wiped out of the map..
    Sneak a peek!!

  72. I don’t think that North Korea will hit america. But the ‘resultant force’ of that trigger will be atomic missiles from japan and america.

  73. It’s the brink of disaster.
    We’ll cut the population to size.
    We need this war like we need Iran.
    When those nukes fail we’ll blame ‘Hussein.’
    This will be the melody.

  74. Fine China..
    Shattered into broken pieces.
    Fine, China.
    Because dogs are not delicacies.

  75. I would like to apologize to all Chinese. No nuclear war will happen. And I pray that none ever will.


    Surah Al Maa – waiting time verse 51 :
    ” O ye who believe, do not take Jews and Christians become leaders ( mu ) ; sebahagian they are friends one leader for another . Whoever amongst you take them into the leader , then indeed the person they belonged to . Surely Allah does not guide the unjust people . ”

    That is , we do not ever make the Muslims Jews and Christians be our leaders , making them a place to ask , making them consultants , where asking for advice etc , do not .

    Furthermore, in these verses , it is very worrying for a Muslim , namely : Those who take them to be leaders , then such a person has become part of their group . It means to be Jewish and Christian . And for such people Allah will not give you a hint , because they have dzolim . Na’udzubillahi forbid ! .

    Cruelty JEWS AGAINST ISLAM – Crusader
    Destruction Latest Facts and Oppression Muslims in Bosnia , Algeria , Tunisia , Eritrea , Egypt , Afghanistan , East Turkestan , Chechnya , Thailand , Philippines , Myanmar and Sudan .

    Nations Crime Western Christian Serbs in Bosnia ,
    Kejajatam Hindu Nation ( Paganist ) in Kashmir ,
    Crime Eastern Christians ( Russia ) in the Caucasus ,
    Crime Regimes ( Secular rulers ) against oppressors of Muslims in countries such as Algeria , Egypt , and the Maghreb , Indonesia and Malaysia, all of which act by the same logic , a similar strategy , and Using the same modus operandi . Principle factor is they are all anti- Islamic .

    The U.S. even though the majority of Christians but dominated by Jewish Zionist lobby ( the Rothschilds and Rockefellers ) . Therefore, the United States fully supports Israel ( Jews ) .
    Israel seized Palestinian land and killed many Muslims there .

    U.S. attacked Afghanistan , Iraq , and actually killing the population of Pakistan and Yemen . Millions of Muslims have been killed by it.
    When attacking Iraq , the U.S. supported Saudi Arabia ( Wahabi ) who lend Military Base .
    So that U.S. fighter jets that can reach 2000 km only freely bombed Iraq .
    When attacking Afghanistan , the U.S. aided Pakistan .

    That is the reality of the matter . Only hypocrites are close to the Jews and Christians are currently being hostile to Islam and Muslims slaughter :

    Remember the Word of Allah in the Qur’an . Al – Maaidah : 52
    Then you will see that there are people in his heart diseases ( hypocrites ) hasten toward them ( Jews and Christians ) , and said : We are afraid he will get trouble . Hopefully God will bring victory ( His Messenger ) , or a decision from his side . Then will they repent of what they
    secret in themselves .

    Crusader – Jewish Coalition countries are the U.S., Britain , and France ,
    Existing Christian nation in the West : America and Western Europe , both Protestant and Catholic ,
    Existing Christian nation in the east : the Russian , and Arabic ( orthodox ) , Hindu , Chinese , Japanese ( pagans ) , and Shi’ite ( Iran ) , Saudi Arabia
    Secular regimes local ( formal status of Muslims ) , Arab and non Arab
    The ruling dictator ( local regimes ) , every day taking hundreds of scholars and Muslim youth into prison cells .

    Fight against the anti-Islamic law ( Local Regime formal status of Muslims ) are mandatory

    The enemies of Islam both from the Jews and the Christians and the authorities ( local regime ) are minions of Satan that do not prohibit , issue of Zakat , the pilgrimage , prayer and fasting , however , but they will be wicked for commingling with the falsehood that right . Islam partly because of wear and wear anyway laws contrary to Islamic law .
    The government then such an enemy is Satan and Islam

    Allah says in Surah Al – Baqarah 168 and Al – A’raf 27
    Indeed devil just told you do evil and vile , and said to Allah what you do not know .

    In Surat Al Baqarah verse 216 Allah Subhanahu wata’ala said :
    ” It is compulsory upon you to fight , but fighting it is something that you hate . maybe you hate something , and he is very good for you , and may ( also ) you like something , when he is very bad for you ; Allah knows , while you do not know . ”

    The verse suggests that the war was legal status Mandatory for every Muslim . Same with the command shaum : Required on you shaum ( in Ramadan ) .

    The condition of the world today is similar to the following hadith , the Prophet shollallahu ‘ be upon him said : ” you guys made ​​haste for the sake of charity before the arrival of libel slander like that night in the dark ” .


    Koran is the manhaj ( directions ) for the Da `i is the path of the deen until doomsday , we will bring you to follow in the footsteps of the prince of the apostles Muhammad and leader of all mankind .

    O my people ( Nation of Islam ) follow me , I ‘ll show you the right path ( Surat al – Mu’min : 38 )

    Ikwan O Lets Fight End Times and jihad in Government Shade
    Islamic Caliphate

    Islamic Military Registration Email : angsahitam@inbox.com


    • it sounds like you need Jesus in your life.

      He is a messenger of peace, not war.

      true christians do not support any evil government and work against it. …

      so do not kill us, because that would offend God.

  77. Bleeding brothers of the middle east.
    I will bind you.

    Cheated by folly of the west.

    Though we’re not pure evil.
    We pour hate through our pride.
    Perchance that we will be given abundance in life.
    Life after life.
    Who gave you that promise?
    That you’ll be pardoned from what you have done to the soil.
    Seeding it with enmity towards honourable rice.
    Grains that was grown from harvest of sun shined wheat that has flourished through honesty.
    Integrity, light.
    You, thieving thieves that lurk in the dark.
    From the shadows do you produce your vice.
    And now you sanctioned them?
    Pain I have felt and pain, I do understand.
    Major earthquakes will come.
    It will bring me to them.
    I swear my allegiance to Russia.
    Captain, do what you can.
    Brothers, save yourselves.

  78. Some Logical Truth about Imam Mahdi, worth reading –

    Click to access messiah.pdf

  79. Hi Marianne.

  80. Are you there?

  81. Hi… Can I speak to Marianne please?

  82. Let’s stop this craziness and turn things upright.
    Reason with mind, listen to heart.
    Forget what should be, what should not.
    Set things straight.
    Even though its hard.
    We have solutions not just art.
    Leave the visions those ugly sights.
    Too many lives have been lost.
    There will be a judge.
    With sincerity we must keep things shut.
    Not to let out the truth that is dark.
    Let us leave prophesies and find the light.
    The sun is shining, glory from G-d.
    Grow towards the horizon with love, with our hearts.
    Let us be friends to one another.
    One more time.
    Live with peace. And leave peace be.
    Let love live in our way.
    Forgive me dear God.
    Love us always our dear Lord.

  83. Asyhadu ala ila ha illallah. Wa asyhadu anna muhammadar rasulullah. Allah humma solli ala Muhammad wa ala ali Muhammad. Alhamdullilah hi robbil alamin. Subbhanallah wa bihamdih. Subbhanallah hil adzhim. Ya Rahman, Ya Rahim. Ya Rabb.

  84. Hi Marianne. U there?

  85. Marianne..?

  86. Hi again Marianne.. its me. If China knows strategy it should make an alliance with South Korea and save us all from the craziness of North Korea. I hope that America will consider peace with Russia too. Respect the petrodollar.

  87. Marianne… do you think I’m crazy?

  88. I should run for President of the United States. If elected I will endorse a bill governing most of our food to be shared with the needy from all around the world and equal wages. Therefore, I am King.

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