Dragon’s Tail

In Revelation 12, the Dragon attacks the Woman Israel several times with his “tail.”

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~ by Marianne on July 3, 2010.

28 Responses to “Dragon’s Tail”

  1. Hi Marianne,

    Rev.12:1-7 is a summary of Rev.12:8-16, which is the detailed account of Rev.12:1-7. For example, the dragon sweeping a third of the stars out of the sky is a summary of the war between Michael and his angels versus Satan and his angels. In Rev.12:4 the stars are symbolic for Satan’s fallen angels, which are flung to the earth. The details of that, are Michael and his angels fighting against Satan and his angels and they not being strong enough and lose their place in heaven and are hurled down to the earth. The dragon is identified as Satan in Rev.12:9:

    “The great dragon was hurled down — that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth and his angels with him.”

    The “Stars” that are flung do not represent Israel! The crown of twelve stars that the woman wears are sybolic for the twelve tribes of Israel (see Gen.37:9-10), where the stars that the dragon flings to the earth are symbolic of Satan’s angels found in Rev.12:7-9. The meaning of him (Satan) flinging a third of the stars to the earth, is that, Satan is the one responsible for their rebelion, since he was the one who recruited them due to his “Trafficking” of a third of heavens angels.

    The woman clothed with the sun with the moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars. (See Gen.37:9-10)

    Sun = Jacob
    Moon = Jacobs wives
    Twelve Stars = Jacob’s sons, the twelve tribes of Israel.

    Therefore, the woman is sybolic for Israel.

    Dragon = Satan
    Stars = Fallen angels

    Satan is standing before the woman (Israel) to devour her child the moment it is born. She gives birth to a “Male Child” that is to rule all nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. This male child is not Jesus as many proclaim, but is a collective name for the 144,000, which are also males, ergo “Male Child.” My agrument for the male child not being Jesus is because, when you take a closer look at the details, Jesus does not fit the criteria of the male child. Satan is standing in front of Israel, waiting to devour (kill) her child “The moment” it is born, but he doesn’t get the chance to kill the male child because the child is “Snatched up” alive to God’s throne and so he is not devoured. Jesus on the other hand, was crucified, where the male child escapes. The word “Harpazo” is translated “Snatched up,” which is the same word used when the Church is “Caught up” and the same word that is used when Paul said that he was “Caught up” to the third heaven and the same word was used of Philip when he was “Caught away” from the Eunich after he was baptised. The male child escapes “alive” to God and and his throne, where Jesus was crucified and then resurrected after the third day. He does not fit the criteria for the male child. The male child, which are the 144,000 sealed as the first fruits out of Israel are those who come to the knowledge that Jesus is there Messiah, which is what is meant by the woman “Israel” giving birth. The male child is seen in Rev.14:1-5) Notice in the following verse that they are all “Males.”

    “These are those who did not defile themselves with “Woman,” for they kept themselves pure.” (Rev.14:4)

    By saying that they “did not defile themselves with woman,” it shows that this group of 144,000 are all male, ergo “the male child.” The woman “Israel” on the other hand are the unbelieving nation of Israel, who are cared for out in the wilderness for 3 1/2 years out of the reach of the dragon (Satan). This is where the woman flees to when the abomination of desolation is set up in the temple and this in fact is the desolation of Jerusalem, which is cause by the setting up of the abomination.

    Yours in Christ – Don

    • http://sabbathsermons.com/2010/07/03/what-are-the-seven-stars-of-revelation/

    • Dear Don,

      Your perspective is very valid. What I was looking at was additional layers of meaning. I find scripture beautifully loaded with extra meanings once we reflect upon them. The layers are past, present, and future applications. Thank you for your insights. They add to the tapestry.

      Stars have also represented Israel in scripture, as in (one example) when Abraham was shown the stars in the sky, and told that his children would be as many as the stars. I was aware of the ancient application you used, as in when Satan was rejected from heaven with his angels.

      But what I did is view the chapter 12 as if it only applied to the end times, and then interpreted it from that point on. This does not negate the first interpretation, but add to it.

      I saw chapter 12 as a chronology of the pre-trib history of the last days, rather than a summary of ancient times until the present. Notice that there is another war in heaven after the child gets caught up, and satan gets cast down again.

      The Word is food for the soul.

  2. There is a few errors in this article so I have put together this as an explanation of what is what in Revelation. Read here http://sabbathsermons.com/2010/07/03/what-are-the-seven-stars-of-revelation/ for full details but also see below.

    Sun = the gospel
    Moon = old testament
    Twelve Stars = are the twelve apostles.
    Dragon = Rome
    Stars = The stars are the angels, ministers or messengers of the seven churches.

    Revelation 1:13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
    14 His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
    15 And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
    16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.

    These are not seven literal stars, Jesus doesn’t have stars. Stars are angels, ministers.

    Revelation 1:20. The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

    Revelation 2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive.

    Here the ministers of righteousness are symbolized by the seven stars, which the First and the Last has under his special care and protection. The Lord Jesus Christ is acquainted with the number of the stars. He calls them by their names, binds the sweet influence of Pleiades, and looses the bands of Orion. The ministers of the gospel of Christ are greater blessings to the church than are the stars to our world. All are in God’s hand. He directs their motions. He disposes of them in their different orbs in their positions. He fills them with light and influence. He supports them, else they would soon be falling stars. They are instruments in his hands, and all the good they do is done by his hand and by his Spirit’s power. {RH, May 31, 1887 par. 4}

    The seven churches are symbolic of seven periods of time, the Christian era. Seven =completeness.

    Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

    The woman is the church. Twelve Apostles are the twelve stars. Crown represent kings, government and authority.

    Revelation 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
    3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
    4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
    5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
    6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

    The dragon tries to eat Jesus. The dragon is Rome. The crown is church head, authority. Twelve apostles wrote the gospel. The sun is the gospel.

    His Tail Drew a Third Part

    The dragon, being a symbol, could deal only with symbolic stars; and the chronology of the act here mentioned would confine it to the Jewish people. Judea became a Roman province sixty-three years before the birth of the Messiah. The Jews had three classes of rulers, – kings, priests, and the Sanhedrim. A third of these, the kings, were taken away by Roman power. Philip Smith, History of the World, Vol. III, p.181, after describing the siege of Jerusalem by the Romans and Herod, and its capitulation in the spring of B.C. 37, after an obstinate resistance of six months, says: “Such was the end of the Asmonean dynasty, exactly 130 years after the first victories of Judas Maccabaeus, and in the seventieth year from the assumption of the diadem by Aristobulus I.”

    The Jewish government was composed of three different offices. Kings, High Priests, and Sanhedrim, or 70 Elders. These, in prophetic language are called stars. One of these offices, that of kings, was taken from the Jews; and cast to the earth, that is, Roman government.

    • dear Sabbath Sermons,

      Your perspective is very valid. What I was looking at was additional layers of meaning. I find scripture beautifully loaded with extra meanings once we reflect upon them. The layers are past, present, and future applications. Thank you for your insights. They add to the tapestry.

    • PS. See what I said to Don below. I think a little differently. I try to look for additional meanings, so that I will not miss anything.

  3. Hello again,

    God has revealed who the sun, moon and the twelve stars are if you will read Gen.37:9-10. Jacob in response to Joseph’s dream gives us the answer to who the these represent, which is why God used the woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars. The woman is Israel, there is no mistaking that, for Scripture interprets this. You can’t guess at the symbolisms, but we must let Scripture interpret Scripture.

    • hi Don

      Very true what you said. But I am trying to think outside the box a little.

      Say, there is interpretation/layer #1, interpretation/layer #2, interpretation/layer #3, interpretation/layer #4, interpretation/layer #5.

      While most would just stop at Jacob and the twelve tribes, I am looking at the stars as representing all Israel, which is an extension of the 12 stars.

      see here too:
      https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/sand-and-stars/

      here i cite passages:

      Gen 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed;

      Exd 32:13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom you swear by your own self, and said unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit [it] for ever.

      Deu 1:10 The LORD your God hath multiplied you, and, behold, ye [are] this day as the stars of heaven for multitude.

      1Ch 27:23 But David took not the number of them from twenty years old and under: because the LORD had said he would increase Israel like to the stars of the heavens.

      Starting with these as a basis, I am extending the destruction of the 1/3 of the stars, to the destruction of 1/2 of the Jews, descendants of Jacob.

      In Isaiah it says:

      Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

      Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

      The stars here could be physical stars, angels, or the Jewish people.

      I guess I am a little different in how I think.

      • oops….should read….

        I am extending the destruction of the 1/3 of the stars, to the destruction of 1/3 of the Jews, descendants of Jacob.

        I said 1/2 instead of 1/3

    • Hello,

      Thank you for your response. My point about the sun, moon and stars representing Jacob, his wives and the stars respectively, was to point to the fact that combined they represent Israel. Therefore, since the woman is clothed with the sun, with moon under her feet and wearing a crown of twelve stars, the woman represents Israel. God used this symbolism in Revelaton knowing that those who would read Gen.37:9-10 regarding Joseph’s dream would understand what the symbology of the woman in Rev.12 represented. The symbolisms that God used to reveal a truth are listed elsewhere in God’s. The problem I find is when people veer away from using Scripture to identify these symbolisms by using their own understand. For example, in one of the responsed to my post, someone had made the claim that the “Moon” represented the “Old Testament,” yet, there is no Scripture to back up that claim; it’s all assumption. Another problem that I see is that there are people that are taking topics in God’s word that are ment to be literal and they seek a symbolic interpretation for it and thereby, it loses its original meaning. Furthermore, most of the symbolism in Revelation is revealed in Revelation. For example:

      “Then the angel carried me away in the Spriit into a desert. There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns.”
      (Rev.17:3)

      Revelation 17:9-11 gives us the answer to the symbolism regarding the “seven heads” and the “Ten horns.”

      “This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills upon which the woman sits.”

      It is very well known that, Rome was built on those seven hills and therefore, since the woman sits on seven hills, we are being told by God’s word that, these seven hills are the headquarters of the woman, because she sits upon those seven hills. We know this to be Rome. The mention of spiritual adultery is in regards to deviation from God, from the true faith. Whenever Israel was worshiping other god’s, they were said to be committing spritual adultery against God. Here is another proof that the woman is Rome:

      “The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth.” (Rev.17:18)

      Regarding the Scripture above, at the time John was receiving the information for the book of revelation from the angel, Rome was the city that ruled over the kings of the earth. So, here again we have Scripture interpreting Scripture. The woman who rides the beast is Rome with her false Babylonian pagan practices. She is “Mystery Babylon.”

  4. The woman is the church, God’s church through all ages. Jewish and Christian.

    Jeremiah 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate [woman].

    • Dear Sabbath Sermons,

      If the woman is the church, how does she give birth to the child? The child is the church.

      • Hi all,

        The woman of Revelation 12 is Israel and is giving birth to a “Male Child.” This male child is also Israel, but they are those of Israel who come to the knowledge that Jesus is there Messiah, which is what is meant by the woman giving birth. The male child are Israelites, twelve thousand from each of the twelve tribes who are sealed being the first fruits dedicated to God out of Israel. The woman (Still unbelieving Israel) are cared for out in the wilderness and protected by God out of the reach of the dragon (Satan.) The reason the woman will be out there in the wilderness is because, they will flee Jerusalem (the desolation) because of the setting up of that abomination that the false prophet will set up in the holy place in the middle of the seven(Dan.9:27; Mt.24:15)

    • Hello,

      The nation of Israel is not the church, but the Church is a separate group from Israel made up of both Jew and Gentiles that was begun by Christ, continued by his apostles and is continueing until this very day. Jesus said the following:

      “I will build my Church and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.”

      He says “I will build,” which is current and future tense.” If the nation Israel was considered as the church, then Jesus would not have said “I will build.” The Church period, which is identified in Rev.1:19 as “What is now,” is still on-going. Once the resurrection and catching away of the entire Church, dead and alive are caught up in the air and taken back to the Father’s house, then God will complete that last seven years that was prophecised in Daniel as the seventy sevens, because only sixty nine have been fulfilled so far. Once the Church is gone, then that man of lawlessness, the beast, will make his covenant with many for one seven and then the wrath of God, that is, the “day of the Lord” will begin to be poured out upon the earth in the form of the seven seals, seven trumpets and ending with the seven bowls, with Jesus soon returning after that last bowl to the earth to set up his millennial kingdom, putting an end to all human government. This is what is meant by the rock that was cut out of the mountain but not by human hands which falls on the feet of Nebuchadnezzar’s statue with the ten toes. Since the statue represents all of the world ruling kingdoms and Christ being that rock that falls on the feet of the statue causing the whole statue to crumble, then this represents the end of all of human government and the establishing of his.

  5. I believe that the Church is the Bride.
    The given birth is to help us understand when the end times are near, the (global)pains like earthquakes, etc will become more intense and frequent like a woman who is giving birth!

  6. There’s 7 parts to this video series so I’m only going to post 2. If you want to pursue it you will have to go to You Tube.

  7. I was listening to Chuck Smith on You Tube on Revelation 12 and I ran across this cool animated You Tube on that chapter. I believe as Don was stating:

    The nation of Israel is not the church, but the Church is a separate group from Israel made up of both Jew and Gentiles that was begun by Christ, continued by his apostles and is continueing until this very day.

    The reason the woman will be out there in the wilderness is because, they will flee Jerusalem (the desolation) because of the setting up of that abomination that the false prophet will set up in the holy place in the middle of the seven(Dan.9:27; Mt.24:15)

  8. Hi Kittii,

    He,he…. thanks Kittii, I got a little laugh out of that animation on the dragon. Very cheesy, ha! It always amazes me when people still try and make the woman of Revevlation 12 the church, especially when God has given us the answer to who the woman is using the same exact symbols Genesis 37:9-10.

    In the description of the woman, she is said to be clothed with the [sun], with [moon] under her feet and a crown of twelve [stars]. When we go back to Genesis 37:9-10, Jacob, regarding Joshep’s dream, gives us the answer to the symbolic meanings of the sun, moon and stars, when Joseph says:

    “I had another dream, and this time the sun, moon and eleven stars were bowing down to me.”

    and Jacob’s reply is:

    “Will your mother and I and your brothers actually come and bow down to the ground before you?”

    Jacob = Sun, Wives = Moon, Eleven stars = eleven of the twelve tribes. In his dream, Joseph is excluded because his eleven brothers are the ones who bowed down before him and Joseph being the one being bowed down to, where Rev.12 includes him, ergo the twelve stars.

    As far as the church goes, I do not believe that we will even be here when the dragon (Satan) goes after the woman (Israel), because this will be taking place during the middle of the seven years. I believe there is a reason why the word Ekklesia, which is translated “Chruch” is seen for the last time at the very end of chapter 3 and never mentioned again within the narritive. I believe the reason for this is because, the church, dead and alive are resurrected and caught up respectively. The next time a believer in Christ is mentioned is in Rev.5:8 and is referred to as “Hagios” translated “Saint.” As far as I am concerned, it is no mistake that from chapter 1 through the end of chapter 3, the word Ekklesia (church)is used over and over again, (18 times to be exact) and then never used again.

    Some might say, “How do you know that this event happens during the middle of the seven?” Easy, as soon as the dragon (Satan) begins to persue the woman (Israel), she is cared for in the wilderness for 1,260 days, or a time, times and a half a time or 42 months, which all add up to the same amount of time, which is 3 1/2 years from the middle of the seven until the end, which is when Jesus returns.

    The dragon (Satan) will be unable to kill the male child (144,000) because they will be caught up to God and his throne as seen in Rev.12 and 14, then the dragon goes after the woman (Unbelieving Israel) and spews out water like a river to overtake the woman; water and a flood being symbolic for sending an army after her. Note: For “Army” symbolism, see Psalm 124 and Dan.11:10.

    God rescues the woman from the flood (army) by causing the earth to open up and swallows them and then the dragon after not being able to devour the male child and not able to get the woman, he then goes after her offspring (spiritual offspring) who are the great tribulation saints that John saw in his vision in Rev.7:9-17. John also sees these great tribulation saints as they are resurrected in Rev.20:4. These are those who will not worship the beast or his image or receive his mark in the right hand or forehead and many will be beheaded because of their resistance and because they will keep the testimony of Jesus and the word of God. It is the survivors of these great tribulation saints, along with the woman (Israel) who will be repopulating the earth during the millennial kingdom, who will still be in their mortal bodies during that thousand years.

  9. I ran across this interesting video.It’s not biblical, but it’s talking about “The Royal Red Dragon Bloodlines” I thought I would post it and see what kind of feedback I get from it.

  10. Don,
    You’re just now watching my video? It’s sort of interesting to go back over what someone posted in the past. What do you think of this video?

  11. There’s 8 parts so I will only post three.

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