Sun Wings

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~ by Marianne on February 3, 2019.

4 Responses to “Sun Wings”

  1. Marianne,

    I caught your message on tithing on a blog here. I noted some things you said about the bible that weren’t in agreement with what I have read in the bible. You said that no where in the bible did anyone get paid from tithes and offerings. Paul talked about being paid a few times in the New Testament, paid from the offerings. It is in the “muzzle the ox” section. Also, in the Old Testament, the Tithe was used to pay the Levites and all the offerings were for the High Priest and his family. 1/3 of the tithe went to the poor (once every three years the entire tithe was for the poor). Also a tenth of the tithe was paid from the Levites back to the High Priest and his family. Under the law the High Priest and family would have been the wealthiest in the land, though they had no inheritance of their own. I’m not saying your points aren’t valid, just thought you should know that there was some stuff you had overlooked or missed. People will come here and take what you are saying as truth. I am not condoning Pastors getting rich from tithes or something. Again, just pointing you to the bible so that maybe you could make a few corrections.

    I haven’t read anything else, just the one article.

    I would have emailed you directly ofcourse if I saw that email address. Feel free to delete this comment after you read it.

    Love what you are up to, all my best! Jason

    • hi jason

      your thoughts and comments are welcome here.

      i think we are in agreement, but I did not make my definitions or explanations more clear. that is my fault.

      I do not see tithes and offerings as payments or salaries to persons in ministry.

      and these tithes and offerings were only meant to be brought to the temple in jerusalem to the priest, who burned them on the altar. after the burnt offering, there was nothing left. so he did not go to the bank with them 🙂

      so the tithes and offerings were not for the priest, but for God.

      he was allowed to have a taste of the meat or whatever was being brought, sometimes it was bread or meal. but there was no way he could eat the whole thing. nor could he preserve it as there was no refrigeration then. the whole sacrifice was burned, not used as income.

      neither the high priest, nor the other priests, even owned land, so they were not “rich.” they had to live on the temple grounds.

      in the NT, paul did not receive tithes. Tithes were to go to the temple in jerusalem only. when the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, all tithes stopped. not even the jews pay tithes now, they are waiting for the next temple to be built. they pay only the temple tax toward their synogogue, which is a small amount of money each year, if they are able. others just give offerings.

      tithes were only for the temple. and never meant for the income of gentile pastors who came later

      all the apostles worked for a living. some were fishermen. paul made fishing nets. none expected a salary. this was a divine commission.

      paul only accepted a few offerings, and stated he did not want to abuse his authority in the gospel:

      1 cor 9:

      13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

      14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

      15 But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.

      16 For though I preach the gospel, I have nothing to glory of: for necessity is laid upon me; yea, woe is unto me, if I preach not the gospel!

      17 For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

      18 What is my reward then? Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ WITHOUT CHARGE, that I abuse not my power in the gospel.

      19 For though I be free from all men, yet have I made myself servant unto all, that I might gain the more.

      so, if this was an earthly “job” it might seem ok to ask to be paid. but for paul, his job is spiritual,

      and by not accepting or expecting money from men, he is therefore not their servant, but God’s servant. no one can say, because we pay your salary, you need to do things our way., which is what we see a lot in churches with boards. they can actually fire a pastor or minister. so the pastor answers to them, not God.

      in the NT, free will offerings were the only “donations” meant for the church. no tithes.

      hope this helps

      you will get my personal email when you receive my comment

      some other links:

      https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/108/

      Click to access tithing-for-jews-and-christians-for-internet-pdf-conversion.pdf

  2. “in the NT, free will offerings were the only “donations” meant for the church. no tithes.”

    I see it that way also, however, if one wants to be a true disciple, then one must forsake all and follow Jesus. Then He will teach you to only trust in Him for everything, food, lodging, health, etc.. As He said, “So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.” Luke 14:33.

    Otherwise we are to give generously to God’s work, be it a local church where one attends or to various ministries where the Lord may put on your heart to support, etc..

    Dan K.
    https://jesus-movement.org/

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