6th seal, DUMBs, 2012



Is the government unwittingly confirming prophecy, and giving us clues as to when the time of wrath begins? Or, has it been listening to too many New Age predictions?

I was watching a series by Jesse Ventura on DUMBS and 2012.

These points impressed me:

1. Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) are real, and there are many of them in the western – mid western part of the country. Some are 300,000 square feet in size.

2. Solar flares are expected to peak in 2012, and possibly permeate or pass through a hole in the earth’s magnetic field.

3. The government seems to have “scientific confirmation” of this catastrophic event occurring in 2012, which would force the “elect” to hide underground.

So, will this occur in 2012? Or, thinking in reverse, does this political behavior, being privileged to special, top secret data, confirm what the Bible has predicted?

Does the government’s conspicuous agenda and deadline, actually give a date for the fulfillment of the prophecy?


The 6th seal is opened:

Rev 6:12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

Rev 6:13   And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

What would make the sun turn black, the moon as blood, and the stars to fall from the sky? “Stars” fall to the earth, possibly creating fires.

This sounds like a massive meteor shower. But the event with the sun and moon sounds like more than an eclipse issue, since eclipses are very common, and would not be considered a special sign.


Will solar flares in 2012, permeating the hole in the Earth’s magnetosphere, create a “peeling back of the sky” in this next event?

Rev 6:14   And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

If the sky rolls back at the same time all the mountains move, this must be a global event. But what causes it?

News reports about the breach in the earth’s protective magnetosphere:




Above: A computer model of solar wind flowing around Earth’s magnetic field on June 3, 2007. Background colors represent solar wind density; red is high density, blue is low. Solid black lines trace the outer boundaries of Earth’s magnetic field. Note the layer of relatively dense material beneath the tips of the white arrows; that is solar wind entering Earth’s magnetic field through the breach. Credit: Jimmy Raeder/UNH.

In this following video, we see the solar rays approaching the earth from the right, flowing over the earth and proceeding to the left……can proton particles invading a breach, peel back the sky?

Another video, showing the solar radiation from the left:

NASA’s opinion about 2012 and solar flares- not a threat:



Regarding the note that “EVERY mountain and island” is predicted in Revelation to “move out of their places:”

This would indicate world wide earthquakes, and major movement of land masses.

This is the moment when people run for cover.

The governments then go to hide in DUMBs, and ordinary people just try to seek shelter, or get left to die.

The government has already fooled itself into thinking that it is safe in these underground bases.

The last place you should be in an earthquake is under the earth, where the earth is moving. You might get buried there.

Rev 6:15   And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

Rev 6:16   And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

Rev 6:17   For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

But scripture is clear that those that hide from the Lamb will face his wrath.

Those that have selfishly spent trillions of dollars on hiding themselves will have wasted their money.

Thoughts on all this:

1. If all this were to occur in 2012, then the tribulation: seals 1-5 (war, famine, pestilence, death, martyrdom) have to occur before that. We only have 2 years left.

2. There is a solar peak every 11 years, and we have not seen massive global physical disasters because of past peaks.

3. I personally do not think all this will occur, maybe some of it. God is not going to allow the destruction of man in 2012, even if it is the 6th seal. There are still 7 trumpets and 7 seals to go – the time of

wrath, and people are obviously still around.

4. What I think might happen, considering some scientific data, is that there will be some astronomical phenomenon, at some time in the near future, which will scare the wicked, marking the end of the tribulation period of the saints (my definition in the discussion here is the first 5 seals = tribulation), who will be removed at that point by Christ.

How close the 6th seal is to 2012 still remains to be seen.

4. We still need to witness the time of Jacob’s trouble, which is 3 ½ years. For this to occur by December 2012, Jacob’s trouble would have to start by

June 2010.

5. Jacob’s trouble appears, however, to occur after the first 6 seals (Rev 6) , because it is after this that the “servants of our God” are marked for their protection from the wrath. Rev. 7:3

6. Only once the servants of God are sealed, is any massive, world wide physical disasters unleashed.

7. So, this would make me assume that there will be “trouble” before 2012, and wrath after, at some point. Solar flares do not control God’s activities and design for man’s judgment, although God may use them.

8. The government is reacting to the Mayan predictions and some “science” predictions. While some harsh times may be ahead, the DUMBS will not protect them during the wrath period, and what they think will happen, will not really occur to that extreme, until after ALL saints are removed from the earth.

9. It is possible that a nuclear war or missile attack could occur in the future, and the DUMBS could be used as shelter during this event.

10. Anyone who enters the DUMBs will never come back out again.

11. It is best to remember Jesus, who described what would happen before the 6th seal:

Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Mat 24:5   For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:6   And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

Mat 24:7   For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

Mat 24:8   All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.

Those were the physical changes. There is no mention of the sun destroying the earth at the 6th seal.

The main physical occurrence would be earthquakes. In the USA, the fault zones are as below, which is why the government is running to the western part of the country – places like Colorado.



Power outage issue in Ventura’s videos:

The videos mentioned power grids going down, but we must remember that, even if the government hides away in cowardly fashion, normal, “every day” people, real American citizens, work at the utility companies, and will be trying to get power back to people.

They would at least want power for themselves, being as victimized as we are. So, they would be motivated to help get power back.

There may be power outages for periods of time, but I think there will be times of recovery as well.

I cannot see the power outages due to solar flares, as much as I can due to missile attacks and war on the east coast.


It is the human behavior that will be more dangerous than the acts of nature:

Mat 24:9   Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.

Mat 24:10   And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

Mat 24:11   And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat 24:12   And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

What I have discovered interesting is the first of the 10 commandments of the New World Order, found on the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES:

“ 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”

Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world’s people, or dramatically reducing the population of the world.


Going off the deep end, with an extreme interpretation:

The best way to do this (decrease the world population by 90%) would be to hide and protect those who are favored to survive, and bomb the rest of us, or kill us with famine and plagues.

So, the 2012 solar issues, and fake planet Xs, and plagues moving toward us might just be concoctions of our own governments, to mislead us, so they can have the shelters WE paid for, but are not allowed to use. Just a thought.

Maybe in 2012, the governments try to wipe out most of their unwanted populations, and the DUMBs are bomb shelters. They could also intentionally target areas where there are geologic faults, so that earthquakes could occur as well. Just guessing.

Maybe the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are not a single enemy, but governments executing population control?

I am not sure about the “FEMA coffins” that have been publicized. There are only about 500,000 of them from what I understand, and there are over 300 million Americans.

The “coffins” are actually grave liners. If there were to be mass executions, it is more efficient to do it Nazi style, and just dig a hole, and bull doze all the bodies into the hole.

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If this could occur in a country where people are considered affluent, compared to the rest of the world, imagine what will happen to people who are hopelessly poor. There is no chance for them.

I am not saying this is true. I am just looking at it as a possible explanation.

When I look at current governmental behavior, it matches. After all, if they cared about us, they would be building places for us to hide as well, but they aren’t. To steal from us, just to take care of their own needs, is unforgivable.

In case of national destruction, we would no longer have a country, and would no longer need these worthless people as leaders anyhow. Let them stay buried. We can start over with a new group that cares about us.

I personally think the government has built the DUMBs because they anticipate a missile attack off the highly populated east coast, so they move west for protection.  Also, they would be far away from the New Madrid fault.

Message to our useless government(s):

The government needs to read the Bible, and gets its facts and behavior in line with God. It needs to repent.

Instead of robbing the people of their tax money, in order to protect just themselves, instead of all the people paying for their DUMBs, they should have taken care of the poor, and helped those in need.

Then they would merit the mercy of God, and would not need to hide.

They are going to die anyhow.


Final Word

YHVH God saves. Man doesn’t.

Trust God for all your needs. Repent of your sins.

Do your best to prepare, then place your trust in God.

You will then be ok, no matter what happens.

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DUMBs are TOMBS …. Click here for more.

144 Responses to “6th seal, DUMBs, 2012”

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    • Here is a must have map …

      I was just reading on another site something concerning the Mad Rid fault …
      I will simply just copy and paste part of this letter …

      The area inbetween the earthquakes now happening appears to be Northwestern Arkansas
      and western Tennessee!

      My guess is that the earthquakes happening in eastern Tennessee are the plates being shifted
      by the movement of the other two areas.

      There are warnings everywhere – terrible destruction coming to central United States.

      I believe it was Perry Stone that stated that when the Madrid Earthquake hit there would be
      some areas totally cut off from the rest of the US with no immediate source of help.

      Also – if the Mississippi widens to 50 miles wide – the rest of the continent may well be moving
      also – 50 miles somewhere – perhaps California – but the pressure appears to be moving east.
      (This whole area was part of the Gulf Coast many eons ago. They have found shells,
      etc., buried deep here. Lots and lots of sand in the Madrid MO area that are clear to see
      from the air.)

      Speaking of sand … I had a dream a few days ago and in this dream I saw a Rhino
      a mud colored Rhino … He was huge and was doing a lot of damage as he rolled around in the mud. Maybe nothing and maybe some meaning.

  2. There is something not normal definetly going on, many earthquakes (there may be a lot every year but these are noticeable), level of oxygen lowering in the ocean killing animals, new sicknesses popping up, pastors and priests molesting children, creating child pornography etc.. I know that we bring a lot of this upon ourselves because we are careless, way to much waste and we drive cars now instead of walking or other forms of transportation. We are noticeably destroying ourselves. Not to mention the thought that many have of gay marriages being ok and abortion is a normal medical procedure now. But I doubt that the government can predict when the world will end. In the bible it states that NO ONE knows the day nor the hour not even God in heaven knows. Only the son knows when he will return. I just look for the signs in the news and who knows He could come in the next few minutes or when I die, it is not for me or anyone to try and predict when he will come. I can just look for his physical presence whether I see him entering the skies or I see him when I have been taken.

    • When Jesus says “no one knows the day or the hour” he is making a reference to the Jewish HOly Day-Feast of Trumpets. Remember, Jesus is jewish and he was talking to the jewish people-they would have understood what he was talking about…the Feast of Trumpets is a Jewish HOly Day where “no man knew the day or hour” that it began…it required 2 witnesses (sound familiar) to confirm that they had seen the “new sliver of moon” appear in the sky and they would each-but separately give their accounts as to the exact time and day they noticed it….after the two witnesses story is confirmed then they would set a fire upon the mountain so as to let everyone know that the feast of trumpets had began and that it had been confirmed by the two witnesses whose statements were the same although interviewed separately. So…when Jesus says, “no one knows the day or the hour”….he is saying “gobble gobble…hint hint”…fEast of trumpets occurs sometime in the fall months…Sept/Oct

    • Mark 13:32. But of that day and [that] hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

      Does that say that only the SON knew?

  3. this sounds a loot like a thing that i read in some websites and in youtube. i think people call them HAARP and they could use it for a lot of things you should check it out. over all this makes sense. the most important thing is to remember that God is gonna use anything that happens to His glory and show the world that He is the only one that could save us

  4. There is definitely something peculiar happening, but I imagine every generation has felt that way when they’re on the cusp of great events. Yeah, if that makes me one of those much-maligned “scoffers” then I’m a damned scoffer. We’re definitely coming to an end of an age here, but I don’t think it’s the End of THE Age, you know?

    There’s nothing new under the sun, people. It has been this bad, and worse, before. Anyone who thinks we’re reaching some increased frequency or density of evil doesn’t know history. Tell you what: I’ll get worried when it reaches Thirty Years War levels of suck and we are currently light-years away from that.

    Jesus saves. I know this. I embrace both Him as my savior and do my best to live by His teachings. But this obsession over the timing of His return is not healthy. Not just the timing, but all the evil that will accompany it, is not healthy to focus on. At all. Preparedness; both material and intellectual preparedness for worldly disasters, and spiritual preparedness for the day we’re called home, is important.

    But obsession over ANYTHING is not healthy or productive.

    As for your last paragraph: What are you talking about? The overwhelming, crushing, debilitating debt the US has heaped upon itself the last 50 years is as a result of entitlement spending to “help the poor.” Remember, we’re a representative democracy, meaning the government is YOU. So maybe you should repent your own self?

  5. The bible says the sun will not give HIS LIGHT, and the moon will not give HER LIGHT Isaiah 13-10….I THINK THIS IS IN REGARD TO THE ANCIENT ASTROLOGY SUN AND MOON GODS..As for the stars falling from heaven..Rev 9-1 shows a star falling from heaven…Rev 12 also speaks of stars that apparently fall down to the dragon beast…
    Isaac’s descendants are as the STARS OF HEAVEN… and Christians are as the stars of god…stars faling could represent the great falling away from god…

    The bible says the earth will stand forever and it says the meek will inherit the earth…

  6. It drives me crazy when people including my own family say things like Gaigem did above. Never in History have we had the capacity to literally blow up the whole planet. Yes people have always been enslaved and persecuted to some degree, but with the technology we have there will be no place to hide or extent to which they can control us. This time is different. Israel is God’s time piece. He’s very jealous over her and that piece of land. I guess him and I will just have to wait and see if this is ” THE END OF THE AGE”.

    • Yes, we will, ma’am.

      We do not have the ability to blow up the planet. That would require the impact of a small planetoid to actually fracture the Earth into multiple pieces. We can probably render it inhospitable to complex life via NBC weapons, but strategic arsenals the world over (especially delivery systems) are shrinking and have been for the last two decades.

      Liberty and decent society has defense in depth. Don’t be so eager to see it destroyed. That kind of bloody-mindedness is disturbing in the extreme.

      • GaigeM,

        If you think that any of these disasters are “normal”….who are you kidding…are you truly in that much denial!! Do you think we will still be waiting on Jesus’ return after Nuking ourselves and coming out of our caves!!!! WOW!! Perhaps you need to read Revelation chapter 8….just 1 more time!

  7. It seems that the Feds are grabbing all sorts of western lands.

  8. After watching the above You Tube, do you still think “Nothing is new under the sun”. This wasn’t going on in Solomon’s day or any other day. They say Knowledge is escalating every 4 years at an increaing rate. How long will God allow this to go on, before we destroy ourselves and the planet? He has to intervene.

    • Ecclesiastes 1:9-12 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

      It also says;

      There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

      How would we know if the demons had got man to make some gadgets before, and then destroyed them all?

    • ‘ They say Knowledge is escalating every 4 years at an increaing rate’

      Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

      Revelation 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

      looks like the time is at hand, praise the Lord, for He is worthy!

  9. Was Michael Jacksoon’s death an accident or was he murdered. Something to to think about.

  10. There is no plot in American government…against Americans. The propaganda is hatched by Lucifer …..perpetuated and increased by those who are fearful and unlearned in Scriptures. America and the world is completely on track for the ‘endtimes.’ The Restrainer(God) is loosening His grip on Satan and we see the results….abortion, gay marriage…spostate church…and so forth. At this very moment, powers are in place to STOMP the materialistic society of America and the world. They are waiting only for the Restainer to ‘let.’ And when the ‘letting’ begins, God will be our only rock, shield, deliverer, fortress, and strength. NOW is the time to stop wasting time on assummed ‘plots’.. and use the time finding Fellowship with the Father. Fellowship breeds Trust. Trust breeds Faith. Faith breeds Peace. Nations and governments are aligning for the ‘miry clay'(rule of Anti-Christ) portion of the ‘ten toes’ of the image of a man in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream interpreted by Daniel(Daniel 2:42). We are in the ‘ten toes’ portion now. The Image of a Man, seen by Nebuchadnezzar, is proof the world will NEVER again see a righteous government. Since God gave the glorious kingdom of Babylon to Nebuchadnezzar….man’s government has, by the will and purpose of God, been spiraling degeneratively downward to the time the Stone will ‘break into pieces’ all rule…and set up His own Kingdom. There is NO man nor political party bigger than the perfect plan and purpose of God. His purposes are ORDAINED from before the time of Creation. And not one has..or will…fail. Man has never…and will never twart one single purpose of God. Scriptures are clear concerning all things past, present, and future…when studied with a mind open to hearing the Holy Spirit teach what He meant…by what He said (spiritual discernment). The more one focuses on these negative and hateful fallacies of Democrat plots against Conservatives… the more fearful one becomes. As Christians, we have much more important things to be doing with our time than ‘proving’ political rhetoric. NOW is the time for gathering the harvest…and the laborers, indeed, are few.

    Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.

    • the laborers are few because the harvest is harvested by angels.

    • Hi just scanning through, i think you are right about seeking to do the important things, I also think the Globalist plotters have been reading the Bible and are trying to use it to manipulate Christians, and also while it is true that God has his plans and they will be fulfilled, the time is not decided and we are his co-workers, so I think it is imperative that the Church cease from soaking up Jesuit and Luciferian interpretations of Scripture and seek God truth on all things so we can pray and walk in truth.
      2 Cor 10:4-7 (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled.’ ‘Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? 1Co 6:2

  11. Must see!

  12. Thet’s my whole point; How many well meaning Christians have wasted their time in American Politics? We voted in the New World Order by supporting the Republican party. Every single president since the 50s was a member of The Council of Foreign Relations or Trilateral Commission with the exception of Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan who were surrounded by them. So many people are talking about the elections of 2010 and 2012 and taking back the government. Its totally controlled. We need to educate and point our to our community what’s wrong with it. The Harvest is plentiful and the labors are few. Lets spend our time and money on it. But it doesn’t hurt to point out end times events to unbelievers and use them as a witnessing tool. I don’t want to see unbelievers left to suffer what is ahead when we could of warned them. We have a responsibility to warn them. A lot of Christians are afraid about talking about the end times too. A lot of them don’t even believe Jesus will come back in their life time.We’re to be ready and watching. That’s the whole point; HIS COMING AGAIN



    • I don’t mean to seem like I’m harping on you specifically, but you do seem very enthusiastic about your point of view. May I ask a question?

      Is a Christian required to believe Christ will return in their lifetime? Are the only true Christians dispensationalists of one stripe or another? I thought the “whole point” was to win people to Christ by spreading His Gospel and setting good examples ourselves, not harping on a temporal event that may or may not happen when we think it will?

      You look down your nose at Christians who don’t believe as you do, but considering that there have been hundreds if not thousands of ‘prophets’ proclaiming the End is nigh before you, can you really blame those people for being skeptical?

      • That is what we are trying to do. As Christians/Children of God we are trying to let others know that there really isn’t alot of time to “diddle dattle” around! Make a decision-yes or no; I am just amazed at how many of my friends who ARE christians aren’t paying attention and can be just as doubtful as the unbelievers! I have been simply dumbfounded by their responses and lack of interest.

      • And no, a Christian is not “required” to believe Christ will return in their lifetime…however, in MY OPINION, a Child of God (My sheep will hear my voice) will a) anticipate, long for and strongly hope for His return and b) SENSE His Return is nigh, if only because of the indwelling of God’s Holy Spirit.

    • http://www.directoryupdate.net/presidents.html
      Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan seem to have been involved in other globalist Luciferian groups. C Pinto’s ministry is a good one for Christians and non Christians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W5yK8wBKT8 this is well worth the 2h 16m

  13. There’s 9 parts to that video “Shadow Government”. If we don’t get educated on what’s going are in for persecution and our rights being taken away. 9/11 was an inside job to enact THE PATRIOT ACT and take away our rights. It’s going to continue. They are into symbolism; especially years.

    • I am not good a math but will take your word for it…sounds interesting Kittii. 🙂

    • Kitti,
      I am trying to understand. Squaring the circle?? My my … I ‘ve done that in 1990 …
      and believe me I am not a freemason.
      They have no clue what they are talking about.
      To square a circle you must find the geometry that will enable you to have the exact amount of space in the circle as in the square.
      Or vise versa.
      It is actually a very revealing form that you are left with.

      What these buffoons have accomplished is nothing.
      Believe me it is in significant. LOL

      God would never give His wisdom to ‘sorcerers’.

  14. Thank you for not harping on me specifically. I spent 8 years believing Islamic extremists pulled off 9/11. Once I started investigating it for myself I couldn’t get off the internet for a year and it took me awhile to get over my anger. I get worked up about it,once I get talking about it. I very patriotic. My husband is Cuban and he tried to convince for 7 years it was an inside job and he didn’t and any of the detais or even go on the internent because he lived it in Cuba. I don’t want to get fooled or shocked ever again.

    Jesus Christ coming again is my hope and I hold on to that.

  15. Tom Horn Lecture on Freemasonry and the Meaning behind the Occult symbolism in the United States

    The Lost Symbol and Secrets of 2012
    Apollyon Rising 2012
    Delivered at Radio Liberty
    Conference 2009

  16. There’s 7 parts to Tom Horn’s lecture.

  17. http://picasaweb.google.com/ericdubay/DevilHorns#

  18. Kitti

    Sorceries of the synagogue of satan are a global thing,
    Every continent is ill affected.
    I know about Michael Jackson … I knew it in my heart the day he fell …
    Thank you for sharing all the symbolism of darkness.

  19. You’re welcome. A lot of Christians talk about the Devil and Satan, but really are cluelsss as to what’s going on in the world we live in today. We shouldn’t focus on these things, but we still need to know about it.

    Ephesians 5:10-17
    Finally, be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power, “Put on the full armor of God so that you can take your stand against the devil’s schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground and after you have done everything to stand. Stand firm then, with the belt of truth buckled around your waist, with the breastplate of righteousness in place, and with your feet fitted with the readiness that comes from the gospel of peace. In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God.

    There’s a some more You Tubes on this subject, but I tried to post the ones that give you a feel for the subject. 2012 is going to be an interesting year. Satan is going to be hitting from every angle, if he isn’t doing already, right now.

  20. I think both of you have good points, but I think (with all due respect) that you both obsess about the situation. I personally believe that if you have faith and share it with many then you will be proudly welcomed into gods army. But the whole reason to be put on this earth is to love, and enjoy earth. Yes there are few that actually care about the environment, people, animals, etc…… but unfortunatly we can’t save everyone,wish we could. Those people that don’t want to listen and choose to be greedy aswell as cowardly already have a fate. I am just happy to be here and enjoy my life while I am here and am blessed and thankful for what I have and I think you should do the same. From what I have read above it sounds to me as though you are being sucked into the whole conspiracy theory when you should be outside planting a garden for the harvest

    • Corinna

      I appreciate your comments. Hopefully, we will look at reality, without losing the joy God has given us in his Son Jesus, as we watch prophecy unfold.

  21. I will never lose the joy and I believe that if “christians” do then they were never true beievers to begin with. If you have not lost the joy you got nothin to be afraid of! Sit back enjoy your family and let jesus decide when he wants to come on down to try my husbands BBQ ribs…..you can come to!

    • “I will never lose the joy and I believe that if “christians” do then they were never true beievers to begin with. If you have not lost the joy you got nothin to be afraid of!”


      Your statement sounds “arrogant”. Who are you to say that if a Christian loses their joy then they were never true believers to begin with? G-D is the ONLY ONE who knows his children’s heart and the reasons for joy felt or lost. For you to have such an non-HUMBLE attitude and arrogant statement could cause someone to “lose faith”…feel as if they haven’t tried hard enough…the POINT IS, that “ALL FALL SHORT” and should have more compassion and humility in your statements.

  22. You misunderstand me. I think that people that truly believe have a natural joy that follows their faith. The joy of believing in something more wonderful then anyone could possibly put in a book (the bible). In if you don’t have that joy, I think that someone should take time to sit down or go to wherever it is that they feel they can feel one with earth and their feeling and re-evaluate their faith. If you consider me to be “arrogant” because I am completely confident that I will be invited to gods table then maybe you need to evaluate what you truly believe in. If someone is afraid of the comings to be, then I think that they are not confident enough in the powers of jesus christ. We all have a purpose, a fate, and it’s up to us to decide how to use it. yes, all fall short some time in their lives, but isn’t that usually when people look to jesus for answers? There is always faith. What is so unjoyful about that? What is arrogant about me believing that? And for you to call me arrogant? Doesn’t that go against the whole love thy neighbour commandment?

    • “If you consider me to be “arrogant” because I am completely confident that I will be invited to gods table then maybe you need to evaluate what you truly believe in.”

      Yep, still arrogant! I am correcting you because you are coming across as “haughty”. YOU are NOT in a place to JUDGE how one believes or feels etc…by doing so, you are elevating yourself ABOVE your “neighbors” and this goes AGAINST everything Jesus TAUGHT! You talk alot about the earth….how about, “the meek shall inherit the earth” or …”And to walk HUMBLY with your God?” Micah 6:8..”

      Here’s a thought….

  23. …”5. Receive correction and feedback from others graciously. (Proverbs 10:17, 12:1) In the Phoenix area, a local East valley pastor was noted for graciously receiving any negative feedback or correction offered. He would simply say “thank you for caring enough to share that with me, I will pray about it and get back to you.” Look for the kernel of truth in what people offer you, even if it comes from a dubious source. Always pray, “Lord, what are you trying to show me through this?”

  24. ok everyone

    I need to get in on this.

    I think there is a general misunderstanding here, and it will just get worse, if people persist with their own viewpoints.

    Sometimes, we judge by the words we hear and read.

    But, we really do not know the intention of the hearts behind those words, because we do not know the person well enough.

    Let us go on, and discuss God’s Word in peace, and not get so entangled with definitions of words spoken by humans.

    only God speaks perfectly, with clear meaning.

    Humans just do the best they can, and hope they are understood for what they mean, which may not even match what they said.

    Let us love each other, and show patience toward those who either struggle with words, or need understanding.

    god bless you all.

  25. Before posting any new comments, read what I just said first.


  26. Thank you for that Marianne, my intentions were not to start an argument. I do find Linday to be very insulting towards me though but I, unlike her will not speak bad of her. I feel now is a time more than ever to be strong and show aswell as teach that there is no need to be afraid because ultimately what lies ahead is beautiful.
    Trust me, I am far from arrogant. Thanks for that though Lindsay, you have a very wonderful way of helping people keep their faith

    • Oh my…SIGH…sorry Marianne, but I GOT to say something…….Corinna, while your full of joy and earth, the rest of us are experiencing layoffs, trying to feed our families, pay our mortgages, bills, rent, what have you….as for me, I have incredible joy whenever my oldest son who has severe Autism, decides to SCREAM at the top of his lungs and throw himself down on the ground and refuse to get up when we are at the walmart or anywhere else for that matter and then my other son who ALSO has Autism decides to runaway and throw a tantrum because “mommy can’t get to you right now because your other brother is causing a scene”….OHHHH the JOY!!!! Woo Hoo!! AND THEN, my sister, who has Mental retardation and is living with us at the moment decides NOT to go to the bathroom but “somewhere else” Oh, I tell you the JOY JOY JOY!!!

      Now, while I did have the JOY when I first fell in love with our Saviour, this did not last forever. I still LOVE HIM and I AM STILL HIS DAUGHTER, BUT I will not allow one of my “sisters” to accuse me or ANYONE else of NOT being a Child of God because we are not experiencing the JOY 24/7.

      So, go and absorb your earth and relish in your “joy”, for me, I have to go change a diaper of a grown woman…..JOY JOY!! 🙂

      • Lyndsey

        You are having your crosses to bear.

        Some may have their blessings now, and their crosses later. Others have their crosses now, and the joy comes later.

        Either way, it will even out. For those that have blessings now, and trials later, they will look back on their joy for strength.

        For those of us who have the trials now, we look forward to a time of blessing later, and get the strength from the joy we anticipate.

  27. Big hugs to you, lyndsey… I do understand perfectly your position in situation.. I have a teenager deaf daughter who loves to lie and manipluative toward people… I knew and watched and did not fall for her ways.. I only said ” you will pay the price for your error ways by using things in wrong way.. because you think wrong ways is better than right ways.. no matter what, I still love you. ”
    Joy is priceless and we all struggle in so many different ways in different kind of trails.. I am with you.. My only joy I hold on so preciously is.. always think about Jesus’s sufferings and how much HE loves us… and look inside asking myself, ” Are you willing to suffer the trails to walk with Jesus all the way… no matter how bad things are ?” Yes I would.. and did.. and still am.. *smile * But does all bad things takes away my smile ? no…
    A reminder to remember Jesus everyday.. and think of what he would do if he is in same situation as I am in…

    Just a thought to share that with you, Lyndsey and to know that you are not alone.. we all struggle together.. we all suffer together.. we walk together through it.. praying that we successfully arriving to a small pathway to the way where Jesus awaits us.. 🙂 Big blessings and hugs to you.

  28. Thank you Marianne and Tamera!!

    I realize that Corinna may not realize how she has come across, but her comments have just “rubbed me the wrong way”. We don’t always experience that “unspeakable joy” but I am still a Christian and believe whole heartedly in our Father, His Son and Sweetest of Holy Spirit!

    How G-D has gotten me thru all these trials is by giving me a Sense of Humor! I see the looks on peoples’ faces when they see William or Ashton acting up….it isn’t funny when its happening because I am kicked into auto pilot and just trying to get us out of there and then later I will laugh so hard because it was pretty funny when William throws himself into a DRAMA and he’s saying “pizza pizza”….and then Ashton is running around like a mad person and I am sweating and on and on…laughing…My youngest is higher functioning and has full verbal skills (not sure if this is a good thing) and for several months while at the store he would say to the cashier “my brother is not from around here, he is an alien from another planet”…LOL

    I am sure Corinna is a good person…just maybe she could add a dash of humility in her comments.

    Hugs and blessings to you guys too! 🙂 (my “alien” is flipping the channels looking for the home shopping network as I write this—funny funny man 🙂

    • Lyndsey

      Hang in there. My kids drove me crazy, and they did not even have a handicap as an excuse. You are doing great. You will make it to the finish line.

      • I love you Marianne! Your words HELP so much! Both my boys are so sweet and amazing-despite their “moments”. I do Thank G-D for bringing them into my life. It is never a dull moment that is for sure 🙂

        *and when we get to the finish line, G-D knows he better have some “pizza” cause I’m taking a break! HA! 🙂 LOL

  29. Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
    The above verse says THE END OF THE WORLD….It does not say the end of the earth..
    When God says earth he means the earth… when he says world he means the world….This world is the foundation of the world satan began in genesis 3..Satan’s world is what will end soon…

    Genesis 6-3..And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

    There are two foundations mentioed in the Bible.. One is the foundation of the EARTH… this is god’s creation of the earth….
    The foundation of the WORLD is satan’s creation…It is when satan plunged mankind into a delusional world of the worship of the sun, moon and stars and host of heaven.. These will have no light in the end of satan’s world system..These entities are the sun, god, the moon god, etc.. whereby humanity acquired what they perceived to be spiritual light since Genesis…
    Allah of Arabia was before mohammed the moon god of the astrology lore.. Mohammed simply monotheised him..

    The bible says the sun will not give HIS light… The moon will not give HER LIGHT…This shows this is about the pagan astrology gods and godesses..

  30. Well Lindsay, that is a huge load. Unfortunately…. I have bills and children to feed and lawyers to pay and phycologists for my daughter having to witness me and her being imprisoned by her father while he beat me to near death for eight years. My sister is lives in an old age home because of a rare type of arthritis.She 38 years old. I’m sure I can think of a few more things. I also don’t want to get into a problem contest. I believe that God might have picked you for this responsibility because you must have a strength that you may or may not know about. When I say “joy” it’s because i know there is a better life coming. I know it can’t end like this. I know …….I believe…… that certain people are given certain tests (if you will) because G-D knows that that soul is up for it, that soul is strong. If only you new me. You would see I have best intentions in this conversation. I know life is difficult all to well….believe me, chuckle. Thankfully I escaped with my daughter, and am doing very well. But I do need to pay my bills, just like everyone else. My daughters temper tantrums were so bad after we escaped that she would bash holes in the walls with forehead. She to has grown, but still has alot of questions. I don’t have all the answers. But I do know that when I look out the window and see the mountains or the ocean the sunrise, finish my cup of tea and then proceed to my daughters room to find her looking like an angel while she sleeps…..I know I’ve been kissed by G-D and nothing or nobody can take that moment away. That my friend with all due respect is JOY
    Have a good night.

  31. I’m responding to Gaizem on comment on March 11 after I posted Michael Jackson’s video on “This is it” was his death an accident or not. Obviously, he didn’t see the other videos before posting his comment. I wish I could write better. I hope he watched the other videos so he could see the connections.

    I really don’t know if Michael Jackson was a pedophile or not. I like to think he wasn’t. But He was trying to make a comeback for a reason with a message. He converted to Islam, He lived in the Arab Emirates for a time. Him and Tupac were snuffed out for a reason. That message is what I wanted to emphasize.

    Go over to the web page on “Radical Islam and Black Liberation Theology” and watch the videos on Tupac. He converted to Christianity, before he was killed.

    God loves pedophiles too.


    • “God loves pedophiles too. ”
      Kittii, how can you post that?….I completely understand “hate the sin, love the sinner”…

      A pedophile is sick! Literally, SICK and G-D destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this very reason….

  32. I would like to comment on what Corrina had to say on March 25th 3,000 American lives were killed out on 9/11. All of this is conspiracy theories,uh? You can live in LaLa land until the next false flag attack, and then blame it on the wrong people, not me. I want the truth. I stand by what my husband who is Cuban says, who lived for 11 years in a communist country; The Patriot Act was in acted to take away our rights”

    I’m glad I do have A Hope.


  33. Let’s try this video again. Otherwise you have to go to You Tube.

  34. I read somewhere (can’t find it at present) that to convert from Islam to anything else is punishable by death…if Michael Jackson had converted to Islam and then changed his mind…well…it wouldn’t surprise me if they had planned to hurt him..especially a public figure such as Michael-it would influence others and make the muslims look bad.

  35. Marianne and others ….
    You All must see this Photo !!!!

  36. I guess I’m wasting my time here. Michael used to be a Jehovah’s witness. He converted to Islam not from Islam. At least one of his brothers is of that faith. Him and Tupac were exposing the Illuminati. Besides researching 9/11 I looked into a lot of New Age web sites that are on the Muslim side when it comes to what is going on in the middle east. That’s where I got some of the exposure to the Rappers and these videos. I really don’t want to post their point of view. They are very anti-christian and blame the Christians and our eschatology for all the ills in the middleast. George W. Bush was the so-called “Born Again” President.

  37. I believe God is in control. But if you don’t understand what happened on 9/11 and think it was Islamic Terrorists, then you’re not going to understand 2012 either. You are going to be deceived in the future, when things do happen. Prophecy web sites talk about it, but mainline churches don’t. They swallowed it hook, line and sinker and that includes me up to a year ago. How many of the people that read this blog believe Islamic Terrorists did it? I don’t see anyone responding. I don’t see anyone disputing it. We’re going to get set up for future dates like 2012, 2016 if we don’t understand 9/11. I think that is the point I’m trying to bring out.

    • I think Islamic terrorists are at least part of 911, because they admitted to it. So we have to consider that, and be aware of them. They are tools of the enemy.

  38. Webster Tarpley Griffin calls these terrorists: Pasties. Let’s engage the Muslims in debate, as Dave Hunt has and as you are on this blog. Let’s not let another 9/11 happen. Let’s not live in fear. Let’s show the love of Jesus to the Muslims and stop demonizing them. That’s what the New World Order wants. That’s all I am asking for.

    • kitti

      If you want to present a set of videos, try to pick out the most representative one that gives the most content. This way people will know if they want to view the other videos. This was an introductory video, which did not present the core of the intended arguments in a set of 18.

      Alternatively, you can give a summary of the arguments given, and indicate which video of the set is best to watch. Most people do not have time to shift between 18 videos in one set. 🙂

  39. I got exposed to Dr. Veith through this web site. I really like him. He’s a seventh day adventist. He did a good video on the Islamic-Catholic connection. Unfortunately, he took it off You Tube for some reason. He has another one out called “Rekindling the Reformation”. Let’s have revival and reach out to everyone before Jesus raptures his Church. I’m sorry I really got off the track, when it came to the subject of this web page, but I really didn’t see another web pageo to plug in these videos and one thing has led to another. Maybe it was meant to be. I feel better now.

  40. In the Last days scoffers will come scoffing and following their own evil desires.They will say, “Where is this coming” he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation. But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens existed and the earth was formed out of water and by water. By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire. being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly me.

    But do not forget this one thing, dear friends “With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day” “The Lord is not slow in keeping promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with You not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.

    But the day of the Lord’ will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar, the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in will be laid bare

    Here’s an Example of Mockers and Scoffers. Time Magazine Special Edition on Secret Societies.



  41. I miss Dr. Walter Martin. Does anyone remember him?

  42. Here it is. Don’t take my word for it. Michael Jackson converted to Islam before he was killed. And his brother converted in 1989 to Islam

  43. Michael Jackson warns of coming satanic rule in 2012

  44. I am reading this book that summarizes the Bible and helps alot in explaining all the riddles, symbolism etc. Regarding the Mark of the Beast, it shows a picture of a rabbi who has a box on his head and a wrap around his hand to show that he worships the one true G-D. There is somewhere in scripture where G-D instructs his people to put “HIS MARK” upon their forehead and right hand. Some Jews take this to be literal and inside the box upon their forehead are tiny scrolls of the torah. Just a thought…wondering….since Satan counterfeits all that G-D does, perhaps this “mark of the beast” and just the same as what G-D was talking about only the person’s allegiance will be to Satan and not the true and only G-D.

  45. Kitti

    April 8th comment:

    I do not know why you choose to constantly lash out on me?

    “American lives were lost”

    The more I read your comments towards me, the more it becomes evident that you reside in the United States. You continue to call me arrogant and insist on turning my words around to suit your thinking patterns.
    You believe that the bibles teachings surround what is happening in your country. Never have I heard you talk about the countries that constantly have to clean up the mess that “you the people” as a government have created around the world, causing you to believe that the end times are near. My country men dying in the wars your government have created, coming home and want nothing more then love and to keep our freedom. What do you want? More oil, more money, more land…..who I ask, is the arrogant one?
    You demand justice, respect, and protection from something, anything greater then what you are willing to fully understand. You lash out because I am not affraid….. as you are.
    You call me arrogant because I love what G-d has given us and would give it back to him ten fold if I had the chance.
    It sounds to me as though you wouldn’t even try.

    So please, keep arguing with me, show me how much you love thy neighbour that feeds your country.

    Question- Do you even know how many people from other countries died in 9/11?
    Do you have the slightest idea of why this happens on the soil that you proudly call home?

    Yes, yes, it is I who is arrogant, ha!

    • hi corinna

      I was under the impression that your country was not active in the current Iraq war. It declined unless it had UN approval. Since the UN is arab dominated, this would never happen.

  46. Corrina;
    June 15

    I’m sorry if it sounded like I was lashing out at you. I apologize. I’m so frustrated, because so many people, mainly Christians, don’t know what really happened on 9/11. I posted information on so many of these blob postings on this subject in hopes that I would reach some people. This country is going to get judged for what it has done to the rest of the world. What a poor witness to New Agers and Muslims we have been. Jesus is coming. This country is not in Bible Prophecy. It’s going to go down. It’s taken me awhile to accept that. But Pastors like David Wilkerson have given me hope that there can be a revival before that happens and I hold on to that. He’s posted all over this blog.

  47. Kitti:


    The only thing that frustrates me is……when it all breaks down, we all pray to the same God, yet people fight over religion. 9/11 was a sad, sad day for the whole world.

  48. Here’s the web sites for reference for the videos I posted that are Christian:

    • If I am understanding this right, from what Gerald Celente is stating…all of this is eventually leading to the elimination of the dollar-right onto the Mark.? He didn’t come out and say these words but according to what he said about what is happening, this is where we will end up…right?

      And that quote of his is so true of human nature-“when people have nothing to lose, they lose it!”…rioting, crime etc..

  49. Lyndsey;
    June 15 comment
    I think you are talking about phylacteries. Here’s an interesting
    an article:

    Ex.13:16 & Deut.11:18).

    article: Phylacteries pictures & meaning – cause of US Airways bomb scare
    January 21, 2010 02:36 PM EST (Updated: January 21, 2010 02:37 PM EST)
    views: 2472 | 1 person recommends this | comments: 3
    Earlier on Thursday morning, a Jewish passenger on board a US Airways flight, was considered a terrorist threat due to the Phylacteries he was wearing. The Phylacteries meaning is basically a religious item used for Jewish morning prayer. See one of several Phylacteries pictures online here.

    Due to another passenger seeing the observant religious man strap this strange metal looking item to himself, he was concerned and alerted someone of the “device”. Due to this and recent safety concerns, the plane was diverted to Philadelphia. Originally it was headed from New York’s LaGuardia airport to Louisville. The passenger had no idea what Phylacteries were when he saw the peculiar item.

    The Phylacteries meaning is actually a Greek word for Tefillin. Phylacteries loosely translates to “to guard, or to protect”. In the Torah, they are referenced as something to be worn in recognition of God bringing the children of Israel to Egypt. The included set of Tefillins includes one for the arm and one for the head of the individual praying. They are typically a set of small cubic leather boxes, painted back and which include parchment scrolls inscribed with verses from the Bible. They also have leather straps dyed black to help attach to the observant Jewish individual during prayer.

  50. Lyndsey;

    If we’re in Bible Prophecy then we are Babylon like Lynn D. said: July 17, 2008. I might not of agreed with her then, but I definitely agree with her now.


  51. I wonder if what Pastor Vincent Xavier will come to pass:


    Americans will be roaming through the streets. The Lord has shown this writer that America will be known as a NATION OF REFUGEES. People will be roaming to and fro from one city to another seeking shelter and rest. The Lord said what we saw in New Orleans after the hurricane called Katrina hit, will become a national reality. Just as those people fled from their destroyed city to other cities, so shall it be in the days ahead. Because of the several nuclear detonations, natural disasters and other terrorist related incidents in major cities across America on the same day, millions will be wandering from sea to shinning sea looking for a place of safety and rest.

    During this time of wandering people will become infected as biological and chemical weapons are released upon the population. Great food shortages and water shortages are going to cause rioting and looting in an unprecedented way. Great violence will emerge and a strong spirit of brutality will manifest. KATRINA IS THE PICTURE multiplied a thousand times.

    Las Vegas Nevada will be a GHOST TOWN. People will be wandering through the emptied and mostly destroyed casinos and city shopping malls. They will fondle gambling “chips” that possess no value. Las Vegas shall surely be a haunt of every unclean bird and jackals will reside in that place.

    Marshall Law will be imposed within the nation. A time of complete desperation will hit. Those who barked like dogs in so called revivals will whimper at the devastation and all their foolery will amount to nothing. Those who refused to repent, but went after the GIFTS, will come away empty handed and their short lived healings will be met with eternal burnings because their hearts were led astray into great deception as the Scriptures said they would.

    The burning heart of repentance can no longer be seen in America. The cry for repentance is falling upon deaf ears and the masses are being led into the slaughter. The day of slaughter began on 9-11 2001. It has escalated into a world wide epidemic as hundreds of thousands are being destroyed daily.

    The prophets are fools! (those in the harlot church) The people are mad upon their idols! A sword against the treasury of the United States has been unsheathed. I will strike their treasures and take them away to another land. I will transfer the wealth of the nation to another.

    It is over! The collapse is sure! The time of debate is ended! America will be a nation of refugees. Those who hate shall meet with hatred! Those who mocked shall be a derision! Those who refused to obey shall be punished! Terror shall take hold of a nation who has forsaken the LAW OF THE LORD!

    SAINTS! Find your way to the cities of refuge now! Begin to build your lives in those places. Go to those places that uphold the Laws of the Lord. You will be protected. Build cities that will welcome and provide for survivors who are sent from the Lord. These will be seeking Christ Jesus from true hearts. Establish godly leaders within the cities of refuge for the transfer will come to a nation within a nation! Fill up the storehouses! Many will be led by the Spirit to these safe places they never knew of.

    The coastlands will perish! Seek refuge now! It is late! Let us not linger anymore!

  52. Can You believe these lyrics? There is going to be so many deceived people.

    I see Johnny with his head hanging down
    Wondering how many schillings left in that pound
    Cost of living it is rising so high
    Dollar see that have heart attack and die

    Bills and budgets are waiting
    Finance ministers anticipating
    Unemployment is rising
    And I hear my people, they’re crying

    The day the dollar die
    Things are gonna be better
    The day the dollar die
    No more corruption
    The day the dollar die
    People will respect eachother
    The day the dollar die

    Tell me brother
    Is there something I can do
    Don’t you let frustrations make you blue

    Time is hard
    And I know that is true
    But if you pick yourself up
    That’s all you’ve got to do

    Things can be much better
    If we can come together
    Long time we been divided
    And it’s time we be inited

    The day the dollar die
    Gonna be better
    The day the dollar die
    I won’t need no pockets
    The day the dollar die
    Don’t have to be frettin’
    The day the dollar die

    Now I see you standing on your feet
    And you can also make two ends meet
    Never you let life problems get you down
    There is always a solution to be found

    Bills and budgets are mourning
    Finance ministers groaning
    Unemployment is rising
    And I hear my people crying from the ghetto

    The day the dollar die
    It’s gonna be nice
    The day the dollar die
    Just you wait and see
    The day this here dollar die
    There be no more inflation
    The day the dollar die

    I say the day Danny dollar die
    The day Sammy dollar die
    We will love eachother
    I said the day this a dollar die
    Fight some inflation

  53. Something I find so interesting is all these people that I didn’t recognize on Alex Jones documentaries are showing up in all kinds of places like on Fox News and different programs. I think its kinda funny.


    Perhaps most readers are not aware that a 1/3 scale replica of Noah’s Ark, based on the Scriptural Blueprint provided to Noah, has been built. However, a full-scale replica of the Ark is scheduled for completion in October 2012. Whether you take this as a ”sign” that we are living in a type of day and hour of Noah’s day, or mere coincidence, I find it simply amazing that the Ark God commanded Noah to build is being reproduced in a FULL-SCALE model in our generation!

    Matthew 24:37
    But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    1 Peter 3:20
    Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

  55. http://watchman33.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/time-cycle-replication/


    Greg Braden approaches the cycles of time from a researcher’s viewpoint, not from a Christian perspective. However, if you wish to understand where the Mayans were coming from, in relation to their calendar and the year 2012, then you should listen to the information presented here. After listening to what Greg says, decide for yourself how the information disclosed fits into your own perspective of the year 2012 and the prophecies of the Bible in relation to time cycles and the End of the Age as disclosed in the Scripture. Please be aware that Greg Braden has a “New Age” view of what these “cycles of time” mean to the world, so you must understand that he is not coming from the perspective of Scripture, nor that of a “born-again” believer. That being said, that does not mean that Greg’s research has no merit, only that his perception of what the research might show is flawed. Why do I say this? Because all the New Age proponents of false religions are looking for a New Age of Enlightenment to occur along with a “Messiah” to lead them into another realm of time, a New Age for mankind!

    Once again we venture to the site http://timewave2012.com/ in an effort to test the Mayan Cycles of Time and Greg’s information based upon time (the past) repeating itself in shorter periods on an accelerated basis in the future. What does this have to do with THE LUCIFER PROJECT – RAISING ANTICHRIST and ADONIS RISING? We have already seen in these projects that time appears to be repeating itself in several instances which could well have prophetic meaning for the future.

    With that in mind, I decided to test another scenario which is central to all the work that has been done thus far in the projects on this blog. The scenario is this: “If Satan is attempting to mimic, copy, imitate, and corrupt almost everything that God has done, including bringing forth his own False Messiah in the Antichrist/Lucifer, then the Time Cycles and Fractal Time might well disclose this event since it is “stamped in the repeating cycles of time” in history according to the research of Greg and others regarding Fractal Time. That is, if you know what you are looking for to be replicated in the future from a past “time cycle”, then the result should be exactly the same in both instances.


    In reading the Bible and doing research, we discover that Christ was resurrected in the year 33 A. D., at age 33. We have already looked in depth at the number 33, and what it represents, the people associated with it, and its deep significance in the overall scheme of things relating to world events and Bible prophecy. Since the entire history of man is centered around the birth of Christ, and Satan will once again attempt to counterfeit this with the “birth” of the Antichrist, this was all put to test in the “time cycles” and “fractal time” to test the scenario. After you see the results, you might wish to re-read THE LUCIFER PROJECT – RAISING ANTICHRIST and ADONIS RISING once again along with the updates. You are encouraged to run these same dates on the TimeWave 2012 site for yourself trying many different dates. You will find, as did I, that only one date matches the MAIN DATES OF TIME EXACTLY! The “main dates of time” are the resurrection of Christ in 33 A. D., and December 25, 2012, the expected date of the resurrection of the False Christ and the beginning of a “New Age”. This is Christmas, the same day that has, for thousands of years, been celebrated as the birthday of the sun-god, Adonis, and other “false messiahs” of various religions. Here’s the first chart from the resurrection of Christ in 33 A. D. to December 25, 2012, beginning with the 4th of November , 33 A. D., as Presidential Elections fall between November 2nd and November 8th depending on the calendar and year.

    Why use the dates of November 4th, 33 A. D. and November 4th, 1980? Because the projected time cycles and dates from the Resurrection of Christ in 33 A. D. to 12/25/2012 must be exact in relation to the expected “time cycle” and rise of the Antichrist/Lucifer as the False Messiah if the “time cycle”, in fact, really does repeat itself. Since my scenario presents a possible “clone” of Ronald Reagan becoming Lucifer, the Antichrist, when incarnated by Satan, then the date of Reagan’s election on November 4th, 1980 to 12/25/2012 must be used to test the scenario of “time cycles” and “fractal time”. As you can see, the graphs of “time cycles” are exactly the same once again! This is the third time that the Reagan scenario has aligned with other time cycles seemingly pointing to the same type of event re-occurring again in the future! Just as the Lord was in the grave three days and three nights, it is three days and three nights from 12/21/2012 to 12/25/2012. If this revelation does not get your attention in light of everything else revealed in THE LUCIFER PROJECT – RAISING ANTICHRIST and ADONIS RISING, then perhaps you better check you pulse…


    The number 33 is an extremely significant number since it was the age of the Lord at His resurrection in 33 A. D. It is also exactly 33 years from 1980 to 2013. While Reagan’s favorite lucky number was 33, and many of the things associated with his life, as disclosed in THE LUCIFER PROJECT – RAISING ANTICHRIST, also had the number 33 represented therein, here is one final thing that I just realized. The date of the Presidential Election of Reagan was 11/04/1980. In occult numerology, the numbers would be added as follows: 11 (November) + 4 (Election Day) + 1 + 9 + 8 + 0 = 33!

  56. Marianne:

    I guess that’s why they are having a conference is to build their own city of refuge.



    JULY 16-18th


    24667 STATE HWY

    CASSVILLE, MO. 65625


    Here’s links to New Wine Ministry:


    This web site talks about “Prudent Places in the USA”

    Looks like you have to buy the CD to get complete information



    Dear Readers,
    Welcome to Dare To Prepare – 3rd Ed!

    A lot of people ask why the name Dare To Prepare. They understand “prepare” but “dare” is puzzling. Some think it’s just a catchy title, but there’s more. Those who choose to prepare have acknowledged, on some level, that things are changing all around us – rapidly. Sometimes it feels like it’s more than we can deal with. We get overwhelmed thinking can I do this?

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    2008 also brought horrific floods to the Midwest, reminiscent of 1993. Record rains submerged millions of acres of land and ruined millions of acres of crops. Reuters estimates the damages to be in multiple billions. Besides floods, many areas also were hammered by strong winds, severe storms, hail, and nearly 2,100 tornado reports. Areas that didn’t see floods burned or shriveled with drought.

    These same scenarios echoed around the planet.

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    Preparedness is not waiting for the government to bail us out of trouble; it IS taking personal responsibility. It IS. . . daring to prepare!

    New Agers conference:


  57. http://watchman33.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/time-cycle-replication/

    Have you ever thought much about the subject of “time”, and how it appears to go by slowly at some times, while in others, it appears to be in an accelerated mode? Most of us have not taken the time to evaluate “time” and its place in the world in which we live. According to Scripture, time, as we know it, will cease to exist and eventually fold into “eternity” at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ on earth. Since Satan is restricted to only having a “short time”, in comparison to eternity, in which to work his mischief, perhaps “time” itself is revealing things that have not been previously fully understood. Let’s take a look at the subject of “time” and how it might relate to the hour in which we now find ourselves as we approach the coming years of 2012-2013.


    The following description of time comes from an 1828 Webster’s Dictionary:

    “TIME, n. [L.tempus; tempora, the falls of the head, also tempest, &c. See Tempest. Time is primarily equivalent to season; to the Gr.wpa in its original sense, opportunity, occasion, a fall, an event, that which comes.]
    1. A particular portion or part of duration, whether past, present or future. The time was; the time has been; the time is; the time will be.
    TEM’PEST, n. [L. tempestas; tempus, time, season. The primary sense of tempus, time, is a falling, or that which falls, comes or happens, from some verb which signifies to fall or come suddenly, or rather to drive, to rush.
    TEM’PORAL, a. [L. temporalis, from tempus, time.]

    1. Pertaining to this life or this world or the body only; secular; as temporal concerns; temporal affairs. In this sense, it is opposed to spiritual. Let not temporal affairs or employments divert the mind from spiritual concerns, which are far more important. In this sense also it is opposed to ecclesiastical; as temporal power, that is, secular, civil or political power; temporal courts, those which take cognizance of civil suits. Temporal jurisdiction is that which regards civil and political affairs.
    2. Measured or limited by time, or by this life or this state of things; having limited existence; opposed to eternal.
    The things which are seen are temporal, but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 Cor 4.
    3. Pertaining to the temple or temples of the head; as the temporal bone; a temporal artery or vein; temporal muscle.”
    Let us take a look at what Scripture has to say about “time” as it relates to our understanding in the current, future, and past areas of “temporal time”.

    Ecclesiastes 1

    9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.

    10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

    11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.

    The above verses seem to agree with the 1828 Webster Dictionary as being the correct view about time. That is, time is replicating or repeating itself in cycles, as are the things found therein! Can this be documented outside of what the Bible and Webster have to say about time being repeated in like fashion as in previous times? Before we move further into this discussion, perhaps a clarification of what is not repeated is in order with regard to “reincarnation”. Millions of people accept reincarnation as a “fact”, while the Bible states that it is a lie from the master of deception – Satan. Here is a brief explanation of the difference between reincarnation and resurrection, so that no one thinks that the above Scriptures are speaking of “lives” being repeated in the “cycles of time” via the reincarnation of dead spirits into human bodies.

    Reincarnation: The soul/spirit of a deceased demonic entity reincarnated into a “natural body” of a living man or animal. Humanity is not included, as the human soul, upon death, is either “with the Lord”, or in Hell until the First or Second Resurrection – whichever applies.

    Resurrection: The soul of a man, woman, or child who receives a supernatural “resurrection body” (without blood – only flesh and bone) as the temple or house of the soul. This applies to all human beings, both those who are “born-again” and the unbelievers who are resurrected at the end of the Millennial Reign of Christ. Human beings must receive a “resurrection body” in order to live for all of eternity in either Heaven or the Lake of Fire!

    First Fruits: Jesus was the “First Fruits” of the resurrection of the believers, as He received a “resurrected body” into which His soul and spirit entered.

    In short, time repeats events, things or objects (temporal things), while eternity does not repeat anything from the past because there is no past, all things are eternal, as the meter that measures time is no longer in effect. While the Bible is full of things that relate to the time spectrum of history as we know it, we will only review a few of the brief aspects as they relate to our analysis of time and its implications on humanity.

    Does God keep up with “time” from eternity? Yes, He does!
    Galatians 4

    4 But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

    5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.


    It is clear from the following verses that demons understand what time it is in relation to their “mission” and involvement in history as it relates to their time spectrum on earth.

    Matthew 8

    29 And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?


    Satan took the Lord upon a high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of this world, both present and future, in just a moment of time! This is a clear indication that Satan can not only see and predict the future of things on earth in his short reign as the “god of this world”, but that he can also offer such things to those willing to bow down and worship him.

    Luke 4

    5 And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time.


    As Scripture states, both the “tares” and the “wheat” grow together until the time of the harvest, there is no “gathering” of the Saints until the “tares” are removed first during the harvest time when the earth is “reaped”. Jesus said:

    Matthew 13:30

    Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

    Revelation 14

    15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.


    Are we living in the “last time”? If you really believe the Bible, then there is no debate! We have been living in the Last Time for centuries, and we are now approaching the very end of history as things rapidly accelerate before our eyes! We know that it is the “last time” because the “spirit of antichrist” has been with us and will materialize in the form of the Beast of Revelation.

    1John 2

    18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.


    Satan certainly knows “what time it is” while operating in the time frame of history as we know it before the Lord returns to stop his satanic destruction upon the earth. Satan will accelerate his objectives as time draws nearer to the closing hour of history and his relation to the events therein.

    Revelation 12:12

    12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


    Does the Bible tell us when the Saints will be gathered, and what sign or signs will come before this event in history?

    Matthew 24

    29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

    31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.


    God will intervene in history in a dramatic way by sending His “two witnesses” to earth during the 1260 day reign of Antichrist. In other words, time as we know it on earth under the dominion of men and Satan, will come to an end with the 1260 day time schedule appointed by God Himself! God controls time and history, Satan and his minions only operate within history as we understand it, while God allots and controls time to humanity and to Satan.

    Revelation 10

    6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

  58. I’m sure everyone doesn’t want to hear anymore about Michael Jackson, but this is an interview on a arabic station about him. His brother says it was a conspiracy.

  59. The last line of this article is what hit me the most. I know that I should trust God with my needs, but I also want to write novels in the hopes of publishing them and having some financial stability. Is that wrong?

    • hi Ivory

      There is nothing wrong with positive aspirations. Live your life the best way you can. Accomplish all that is possible. Just be aware that we need to be watchful as uncertain times are ahead of us.

  60. Thank you, marianne.

  61. wow, mysteriously disappeared from website

  62. Everybody is soooo into the end times … but does anyone knows how JESUS would look like? How will you recognize HIM?

    • Rev 19:11 ¶ And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him [was] called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

      Rev 19:12 His eyes [were] as a flame of fire, and on his head [were] many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

      Rev 19:13 And he [was] clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

      Rev 19:14 And the armies [which were] in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

      Rev 19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

      Rev 19:16 And he hath on [his] vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

  63. nice … but if Jesus appeared in Damascus and your in america and only a guy gave you the news … will you believe? it better be televised on CNN … but ofcourse there was no mention of a newscaster during that day.

  64. complete list of DUMBs in the USA


  65. Guess this whole topic is “DUMB.”
    From the article above:
    3. The government seems to have “scientific confirmation” of this catastrophic event occurring in 2012, which would force the “elect” to hide underground.
    So much for the so-called “Scientists” who supposedly confirmed this info. They are undoubtedly the same people who are now confirming the approach of Nibiru.
    So one more conspiracy theory bites the dust. I knew it would, they always do.

    • jim

      the gov has spent trillions of dollars building DUMBs.

      so they do expect something.

      too bad for them, they cannot calculate or guess what god will do, and when he will do it.

  66. Can you all please give us an update 2017 ETA for Nibiru >

    • a.s.

      I wish I could be an expert on this and nibiru. but I am not so I try to research around see what credible opinions I can find.

      the election of trump may delay things…and we MIGHT have a small grace period…but on the other hand, he is not in office yet, and the elite are trying to stop or remove him………

      so we are in shaky times until obama leaves, if he does leave.

      if obama manages to stay in office by some scheme, nibiru will come quicker.

      i have heard scientists say that for a few years, beyond their understanding, the movement of nibiru just stopped….which is against the laws of physics…this means the hand of God is on nibiru, and it will be released when the time is right.

      check back after jan 20th, to see who is in the white house for the next 4 years…and maybe we can evaluate the situation better.

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