6th seal, DUMBs, 2012
Is the government unwittingly confirming prophecy, and giving us clues as to when the time of wrath begins? Or, has it been listening to too many New Age predictions?
I was watching a series by Jesse Ventura on DUMBS and 2012.
These points impressed me:
1. Deep Underground Military Bases (DUMBs) are real, and there are many of them in the western – mid western part of the country. Some are 300,000 square feet in size.
2. Solar flares are expected to peak in 2012, and possibly permeate or pass through a hole in the earth’s magnetic field.
3. The government seems to have “scientific confirmation” of this catastrophic event occurring in 2012, which would force the “elect” to hide underground.
So, will this occur in 2012? Or, thinking in reverse, does this political behavior, being privileged to special, top secret data, confirm what the Bible has predicted?
Does the government’s conspicuous agenda and deadline, actually give a date for the fulfillment of the prophecy?
The 6th seal is opened:
Rev 6:12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casts her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
What would make the sun turn black, the moon as blood, and the stars to fall from the sky? “Stars” fall to the earth, possibly creating fires.
This sounds like a massive meteor shower. But the event with the sun and moon sounds like more than an eclipse issue, since eclipses are very common, and would not be considered a special sign.
Will solar flares in 2012, permeating the hole in the Earth’s magnetosphere, create a “peeling back of the sky” in this next event?
Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
If the sky rolls back at the same time all the mountains move, this must be a global event. But what causes it?
News reports about the breach in the earth’s protective magnetosphere:
Above: A computer model of solar wind flowing around Earth’s magnetic field on June 3, 2007. Background colors represent solar wind density; red is high density, blue is low. Solid black lines trace the outer boundaries of Earth’s magnetic field. Note the layer of relatively dense material beneath the tips of the white arrows; that is solar wind entering Earth’s magnetic field through the breach. Credit: Jimmy Raeder/UNH.
In this following video, we see the solar rays approaching the earth from the right, flowing over the earth and proceeding to the left……can proton particles invading a breach, peel back the sky?
Another video, showing the solar radiation from the left:
NASA’s opinion about 2012 and solar flares- not a threat:
Regarding the note that “EVERY mountain and island” is predicted in Revelation to “move out of their places:”
This would indicate world wide earthquakes, and major movement of land masses.
This is the moment when people run for cover.
The governments then go to hide in DUMBs, and ordinary people just try to seek shelter, or get left to die.
The government has already fooled itself into thinking that it is safe in these underground bases.
The last place you should be in an earthquake is under the earth, where the earth is moving. You might get buried there.
Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
But scripture is clear that those that hide from the Lamb will face his wrath.
Those that have selfishly spent trillions of dollars on hiding themselves will have wasted their money.
Thoughts on all this:
1. If all this were to occur in 2012, then the tribulation: seals 1-5 (war, famine, pestilence, death, martyrdom) have to occur before that. We only have 2 years left.
2. There is a solar peak every 11 years, and we have not seen massive global physical disasters because of past peaks.
3. I personally do not think all this will occur, maybe some of it. God is not going to allow the destruction of man in 2012, even if it is the 6th seal. There are still 7 trumpets and 7 seals to go – the time of
wrath, and people are obviously still around.
4. What I think might happen, considering some scientific data, is that there will be some astronomical phenomenon, at some time in the near future, which will scare the wicked, marking the end of the tribulation period of the saints (my definition in the discussion here is the first 5 seals = tribulation), who will be removed at that point by Christ.
How close the 6th seal is to 2012 still remains to be seen.
4. We still need to witness the time of Jacob’s trouble, which is 3 ½ years. For this to occur by December 2012, Jacob’s trouble would have to start by
5. Jacob’s trouble appears, however, to occur after the first 6 seals (Rev 6) , because it is after this that the “servants of our God” are marked for their protection from the wrath. Rev. 7:3
6. Only once the servants of God are sealed, is any massive, world wide physical disasters unleashed.
7. So, this would make me assume that there will be “trouble” before 2012, and wrath after, at some point. Solar flares do not control God’s activities and design for man’s judgment, although God may use them.
8. The government is reacting to the Mayan predictions and some “science” predictions. While some harsh times may be ahead, the DUMBS will not protect them during the wrath period, and what they think will happen, will not really occur to that extreme, until after ALL saints are removed from the earth.
9. It is possible that a nuclear war or missile attack could occur in the future, and the DUMBS could be used as shelter during this event.
10. Anyone who enters the DUMBs will never come back out again.
11. It is best to remember Jesus, who described what would happen before the 6th seal:
Mat 24:3 ¶ And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
Mat 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumors of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all [these things] must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
Mat 24:7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
Mat 24:8 All these [are] the beginning of sorrows.
Those were the physical changes. There is no mention of the sun destroying the earth at the 6th seal.
The main physical occurrence would be earthquakes. In the USA, the fault zones are as below, which is why the government is running to the western part of the country – places like Colorado.
Power outage issue in Ventura’s videos:
The videos mentioned power grids going down, but we must remember that, even if the government hides away in cowardly fashion, normal, “every day” people, real American citizens, work at the utility companies, and will be trying to get power back to people.
They would at least want power for themselves, being as victimized as we are. So, they would be motivated to help get power back.
There may be power outages for periods of time, but I think there will be times of recovery as well.
I cannot see the power outages due to solar flares, as much as I can due to missile attacks and war on the east coast.
It is the human behavior that will be more dangerous than the acts of nature:
Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
Mat 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
Mat 24:12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
What I have discovered interesting is the first of the 10 commandments of the New World Order, found on the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES:
“ 1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.”
Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world’s people, or dramatically reducing the population of the world.
Going off the deep end, with an extreme interpretation:
The best way to do this (decrease the world population by 90%) would be to hide and protect those who are favored to survive, and bomb the rest of us, or kill us with famine and plagues.
So, the 2012 solar issues, and fake planet Xs, and plagues moving toward us might just be concoctions of our own governments, to mislead us, so they can have the shelters WE paid for, but are not allowed to use. Just a thought.
Maybe in 2012, the governments try to wipe out most of their unwanted populations, and the DUMBs are bomb shelters. They could also intentionally target areas where there are geologic faults, so that earthquakes could occur as well. Just guessing.
Maybe the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse are not a single enemy, but governments executing population control?
I am not sure about the “FEMA coffins” that have been publicized. There are only about 500,000 of them from what I understand, and there are over 300 million Americans.
The “coffins” are actually grave liners. If there were to be mass executions, it is more efficient to do it Nazi style, and just dig a hole, and bull doze all the bodies into the hole.
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If this could occur in a country where people are considered affluent, compared to the rest of the world, imagine what will happen to people who are hopelessly poor. There is no chance for them.
I am not saying this is true. I am just looking at it as a possible explanation.
When I look at current governmental behavior, it matches. After all, if they cared about us, they would be building places for us to hide as well, but they aren’t. To steal from us, just to take care of their own needs, is unforgivable.
In case of national destruction, we would no longer have a country, and would no longer need these worthless people as leaders anyhow. Let them stay buried. We can start over with a new group that cares about us.
I personally think the government has built the DUMBs because they anticipate a missile attack off the highly populated east coast, so they move west for protection. Also, they would be far away from the New Madrid fault.
Message to our useless government(s):
The government needs to read the Bible, and gets its facts and behavior in line with God. It needs to repent.
Instead of robbing the people of their tax money, in order to protect just themselves, instead of all the people paying for their DUMBs, they should have taken care of the poor, and helped those in need.
Then they would merit the mercy of God, and would not need to hide.
They are going to die anyhow.
YHVH God saves. Man doesn’t.
Trust God for all your needs. Repent of your sins.
Do your best to prepare, then place your trust in God.
You will then be ok, no matter what happens.
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