Angel of Death and the 3 Days of Darkness


Angel of death follows the 3 days of darkness.

Dream (January 17, 2013)

I was riding on a bus or train.

I looked up on a passing hill and saw a dark figure.

Hill was mainly dirt, bare, without vegetation.

The dark figure turned around and looked at me.

I felt it was the angel of death.

He seemed focused on the road ahead, something in the near future.

Because of this dream, I sought the Lord about what it could mean, and how should I respond.

On January 19, 2013, the Torah portion was from Exodus,

Parshah Bo

Exodus 10:1-13:16

Torah Reading for Week of Jan 13-19, 2013 – Shevat 2-8, 5773

My answer was there.

Especially this passage about :

The Ninth Plague: Darkness

21 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Stretch out your

hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness

over the land of Egypt, darkness which may even be


22 So Moses stretched out his hand toward heaven,

and there was thick darkness in all the land of Egypt

three days.

23 They did not see one another; nor did anyone rise

from his place for three days. But all the children of

Israel had light in their dwellings.

I also have another post

3 Days of Darkness

I had wondered so far how the 3 days f darkness could fit into end time events, if true.

I could see how it might be associated with the 6th seal, since the sun

turns dark at that time, but I was not sure.


But today, I found another 3days of darkness I had not thought of before: the ninth plague in Egypt.


Putting 3 days of darkness in biblical context and timing:

Plague # 9 in Egypt: 3 days of darkness – Egyptians were afflicted with heavy darkness, while the children of Israel had light in their dwellings.

Plague # 10 in Egypt: Angel of Death kills the first born of the Egyptians, while the Angel of Death passes over the houses of the children of Israel.

12 ‘For I will pass through the land of Egypt on that night, and will strike all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I will execute judgment: I am the Lord.

13 Now the blood shall be a sign for you on the houses where you are. And when I see the blood, I will pass over you; and the plague shall not be on you to destroy you when I strike the land of Egypt.

Children of Israel leave Egypt.

Children of Israel enter the wilderness.


Possible Conclusion:

It would seem consistent with scripture that if there is a 3 days of darkness in our future, then it might be right before Passover of a particular year.

The 3 days would be a signal to Jews to “leave Egypt.”

Egypt is somewhere that is NOT Israel.

Revelation 12 predicts the “woman” flees to the wilderness at one moment.

It seems like subconsciously, Jews will be inspired to leave where they are and enter a wilderness experience somewhere, to escape the Egypt they have been in.

It would also be a signal to all of us that we should leave our own Egypt, and leave any sin we have behind us.

It is a last call to holiness and repentance.

The angel of death either kills us, or we are protected by the blood of the Passover lamb, as we acknowledge the power of God and repent.

So the 3 days of darkness is an opportunity to allow the angel of death to “pass over” our homes and lives.

For those who rebel against God, it is a time of judgment and destruction.

Which Passover of which year may we see this, if this theory holds true?

I don’t know, so I must wait and see what happens next.

The angel of death dream indicated to me that the time seemed near.

The angel was looking right ahead of where my bus / train was going.

The event was right up the road somewhere.

I and others were heading toward that time and event.

Will we be “passed over,” or will we be killed?

That is up to us.

230 Responses to “Angel of Death and the 3 Days of Darkness”

  1. If in fact there WILL be three days of darkness as a great purging in the earth: it seems to me it would almost HAVE TO BE just prior to the LORD YESHUA returning in glory at the end of that short period. … Now frankly: this could be JUST BEFORE The Millennium, … or just AFTER IT when there is a final sifting and purging before the re-creation of a new heaven and new earth by HOLY FIRE FROM THE FATHER. The “three days of darkness” could precede EITHER event. WATCH & PRAY.

  2. Yes I heard something about the Jews leaving Russia going back to Israel
    to live I read it some where thy claimed to be Jews could this have something to due also with this by returning if true?

  3. Has anyone one considered that the law of Moses (not the 10 commandments) were a curse to the Jews who fell in the wilderness and that these cursed laws are the same laws of Islam…. These cursed laws led to death, not to life… as does Islam also lead to death…As I see it Islam is the real angel of death…Islam is the same deception of Eve (2 Corinthinas 11-14,3,4..)..This deception brought death to humanity… Islam is the second death today….The complete exposure of the lies of ISlam will defeat death for humanity… The last enemy that will be destroyed is death…. We are there now…

  4. Is there something true ,it is the on going coming of jews to Jerusalem.
    No matter the forces against it, the process willl be accomplished swifly on time. This time is not like the assyrian and babilonian gatherings, the Lord himself will bring them for the glory of Christ Jesus. No one are to be left behind.

  5. My interpretation of your dream.

    There are significant events matching up with your dream, considering the “time line” that I see we are within.

    We are heading for the 4th Seal – opening in Nisan 2013.

    “When He opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature saying, “Come and see.” 

    So I looked, and behold, a pale horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth” (Revelation 6:7-8, NKJV).

    You (we) are traveling but not driving or controlling the vehicle (events).  Events are proceeding and you (we) can not turn to the right or left (train or bus). 

    The death figure is “Death”, which comes with the work of the Antichrist, once he is revealed, manifested before all mankind. This is the opening of the 4th Seal.

    You believe this occurs during Passover, as the “Death Angle” figure.

    “It would seem consistent with scripture that if there is a 3 days of darkness in our future, then it might be right before Passover of a particular year. The 3 days would be a signal to Jews to “leave Egypt.”

    Well, consider this from Hebrew for Christians, written by John Parsons.

    “The Fast of Esther… remembers God’s deliverance of the Jewish people from the evil scheming of Haman…during the reign of the Persian King Xerxes (Ahasuerus in Hebrew) as described in the Biblical book of Esther.  

    Esther and the Jews fasted for 3 days and then Esther successfully approached the king to appeal for the deliverance of the Jewish people.

    Prophetic significance of Esther’s fast and the deliverance:  Haman is a type of Anti-Christ (or satan) who will rise up in the last days to attempt (again) to destroy the nation of Israel. The Jewish people will again fast and prepare for God’s ultimate deliverance, but this deliverance will clearly come to them at the pierced hands of the Mashiach Yeshua, the true King of Israel. There will be great rejoicing following this [Great] tribulation.

    According to sages, any day that is marked by special deliverance by the LORD can be called a “Purim.” In fact, Yom Kippur (the Day of Atonement) is also known as Yom Kippurim in the Tanakh, which can be read as Yom Ke-Purim, a “day like Purim.” Thus the day on which Yeshua sacrificed Himself on the cross is the greatest Purim of all, since through this we are eternally delivered from the hands of our enemies” (John Parsons).

    The dates of Esther’s fast (seeking Devine intervention and “deliverance”) are the 3 days of Nisan 14-16 (Passover). 

    “The aim of the fast is to affirm that a Israel does not prevail by physical or military strength, but only by lifting her eyes heavenward in prayer so that Divine Mercy might prevail in battle” (John Parsons).

    Nisan 14-16 is March 25-27, 2013.

    So, what becomes of this Death Angle you see and it’s work?

    Revelation 12:11

    “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.”

    Yes, we have choice and that choice will be made clear in the coming weeks. 

    First, we will see the Ark come forth (first big road sign out the window of this bus or train). Many may see the significance of this event and rub their sleepy eyes for it is “midnight”.

    Then, the choice will be so clear that it will bring many to seek the Lord for “deliverance” (salvation) from the AntiChrist. Because we watch “him” receive a “spiritual makeover” after lying very still for 3.5 days.

    We (His disciples), will see the “abomination” as we read in Matthew 24.

    There will be many coming to “salvation” or deliverance around the world during Nisan 2013 (March 12- April 10). Then comes the “great testing” of our faith. The threshing floor is filled with wheat (Joel 2:23-24).

    There will be individual stories of “deliverance and salvation” and entering into the wilderness (God’s provision), then into God’s rest over the coming years.

    “This is a faithful saying: 

    For if we died with Him, we shall also live with Him.

    If we endure, we shall also reign with Him.

    If we deny Him, He also will deny us.

    If we are faithless, He remains faithful; He cannot deny Himself” (2nd Timothy 2:11-13, NKJV).

    Psalm 23

    • dj

      note: the lots (pur) were cast in the first month of nissan, and the day to annihilate the jews was determined to he 13th day, of the 12th month of Adar, which was 11 months later.

      on the 13th day of nissan, the decree to kill the jews was sealed in the name of the king.

      mordecai did not find out until 2 months later, so that he could inform Esther.

      the decree by the king to permit the jews to defend themselves against the Haman decree was signed on the third month of sivan, on the 23rd day…..(Esther 8:9)

      this means that esther had to have fasted 5 days before……3 days of fasting, plus 2 days banquet before decree.

      so the death decree went out during the anniversary of the 3 days of darkness, but the fast occurred 2 months later, after the news reached back to esther.

      the death decree was determined 11 months before Adar (time to kill), giving the jews plenty of time to pray and prepare, thanks to Esther, but most of all, to the Lord, who gave them this grace period so they could appeal to the king in time and be saved.

    • I found this a very interesting concept of mariannes dream, considering I believe OBAMA is the anti-christ and he will bring hell to america,my prayer is america wakes up in time to fight him and his hords of demons coming on america,I fear most americans are so asleep they won’t have time to realize the level of danger coming on them till its way to late,THE lord showed me a surprise attack by obamas private army,america was running down the streets screaming in terror as they were being shot trying to escape the chinese solders invading our country……………………………

    • Amen!!

  6. Marianne,

    I understand what you write but identify with “immediately after the time Mordechai learned of Haman’s decree” which is the 3 day fast – occuring during the days of Passover (Nisan). 

    “Today…Unlike the original fast, however, the modern observance is not observed for three days, nor is it observed on the same dates (according to tradition, from Nisan 14-16 (i.e., over Passover and immediately after the time Mordechai learned of Haman’s decree).

    Instead, the Fast of Esther is observed on Adar 13, the day that the nation of Israel was supposed to be destroyed according to Haman’s evil decree — but also the very day in which Israel successfully repelled her enemies.” (Hebrew4Christians).

    The Lord led you to the verses in Exodus and that I’m confident ~ Moses and 3 days of darkness/Egpyt. The Lord does the same for me …. ask Him and wait for an answer from Scriptures, thank you Lord. 

    The month/days when the 3 days of darkness occurred in Exodus are probably Adar (Feb-March 2013).

    Note: the Hebrews had light in their dwellings. Hummm? Must be oil in those lamps, protection too. This darkness will not fall on everyone.

    Also, Hebrews who do not return to Isreal soon, remaining in Egypt (the world), may have extreme difficulty. Especially Hebrews living between Providence, RI to Miami Beach, and major cities within US.

    I recall from Scriptures that many (2/3?), will not survive the last days. Could be that those within Israel are protected by God.

    The 4th Seal opens soon and we all will see it clearly.

    Psalm 23

    • I thought it might be significant to identify which month and day the 3 days occurred, in case there is another 3 day period of darkness.

      true, we do not know the gap in time between plagues….so I was assuming they were one right after another…..but yes, the darkness could have occurred in adar instead.

      the moses account does give us a clue as to the season and general time of year….

      so it would be early spring.

    • DJ, I fully agree with you. YHWH is precise with His Years, Months, Days, & Times, so only those who are following His every Word minutely as He has instructed will know these extremely times, while for others it will be confusing no matter how religious they are or how they interpret the Scriptures.
      [Re: Also, Hebrews who do not return to Isreal soon, remaining in Egypt (the world), may have extreme difficulty. Especially Hebrews living between Providence, RI to Miami Beach, and major cities within US.]

      Again you are so right. A few years ago I was attending Shabbat Services on an online congregation in the US, and I kept hearing this almost every time;
      “No matter what happens, and even in the end-times, we are not going anywhere, but we will always be right here..”

      And I thought, OMG!! that is so wrong, can’t this man who calls himself a rabbi possibly see that YHWH is calling His people home???
      I left that congregation since then for this and many other things that I found were just not right according to the Word of YHWH.
      YAH bless

  7. Dear Marianne and Dj — One question – Do you both believe that every one that is of Jewish decent is going to be saved. Not a trick question just asking.
    ———————————– In Christ Love —ty

    • they will all have that opportunity

    • Greetings Tom York,
      The question you asked DJ, I found it to be very interesting so I just want to share with you something to encourage you that the Creator is not a respecter of persons – there’s No Partiality in Him. You draw near to Him and He will draw near to Him – not the other way round. In Exodus if you read the following two scriptures you will see that the Creator brought the Israelites out of Egypt(bondage) and along with them came out the Gentiles of their own free will after realizing how Powerful the God of the Hebrew was than all the gods of pharaoh – and then He Baptized them ALL as they passed thru the parted waters of the Red Sea (actually Reed Sea). So later, long story short, He gave the Commandments in the hands of the Hebrew(Moses) and these same Commandments were meant for both the Israelites and the gentiles who were with the Israelites at Mt. Sinai – This whole event was and still is a significance of God’s Love, Mercy and SALVATION for all Human Beings. SALVATION in Hebrew actually means YAHOSHUA (Jesus).

      Ex.12:37-Now the sons of Israel journeyed from Rameses to Succoth, about six hundred thousand men on foot, aside from children.
      Ex.12:38- A MIXED MULTITUDE also went up with them, along with flocks and herds, a very large number of livestock. ….. (the gentiles)

      There are many, many more scriptures showing God’s mercy, love forgiveness and Salvation, you should dig them out. Btw, the only ones that God wanted to be destroyed were the “Alien Beings” or “Reptillians” “Anakim” and all those ending with “ims’ & “mims” etc. etc. these were beings with the DNA of satan who have been among us since before the flood (Study Genesis 6). There’s No Salvation for them. You’ll know who they are Read Psalm 2: These are the same ones who are doing their utmost to destroy us all in the soon coming dark days … But worry not, as Salvation(Yahoshua) said, I AM COMING TO SAVE YOU.
      Let’s cry out to Him saying “Baruch Haba B’shem Yahoshua” Blessed is He Who comes in the name of YAHWEH … (YAHOSHUA YAHWEH MESSIAH) Psalm 118:26/Matthew 21:9
      Be Blessed brother

  8. Tom,

    I’m at work and can not find chapter/verse so I think many will reject the Lamb of God and remain in “Egypt”, enjoying the pleasures of the world.
    Many will (Paul explains in Romans 9?).
    I also see this in Joel 2:21-24 (new oil and wine).
    Ezek 9 has some interesting information (I think that is the reference).

    Psalm 27

    • Tom and all,
      Off work and access to Scriptures, giving some support to what I believe.

      The children of Abraham shall recieve His mercy and grace. But, they have a reputation for being “stiff necked” (proud).

      What I recalled from Romans 9 is God’s righteousness and the effects of pride (it is a demonic spirit). Remember, God resists the proud and that goes for every nation, people and includes Believers. He gives grace to those whom humble themselves before Him – fasting, prayer with sincere hearts and tears usually flow at this humble point.

      So, here is Paul’s inspired words on the subject of salvation for all Hebrews.

      “And not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, ‘The older shall serve the younger.’  As it is written, ‘Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated'” (Romans 9:10-13).

      “What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? Certainly not! 

      For He says to Moses, ‘I will have mercy on whomever I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whomever I will have compassion.’ 

      So then it is not of him who wills, nor of him who runs, but of God who shows mercy. For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, ‘For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.’ 

      Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens”(Romans 9:14-18, NKJV).

      Then we find Paul’s inspired writing telling us what is to come very soon (in my opinion).

      “You will say then, ‘Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in.’ Well said. Because of unbelief they were broken off, and you stand by faith. Do not be haughty, but fear. For if God did not spare the natural branches, He may not spare you either.

      Therefore consider the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness. Otherwise you also will be cut off. And they also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

      For if you were cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and were grafted contrary to nature into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, who are natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

      For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.  And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written:

      ‘Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins'” (Romans 11:19-27, NKJV).

      Now read Joel chapter 2 and just look at the connection with the verses in Romans written above.

      ‘Now therefore,’ says the Lord, ‘Turn to Me with all your heart, with fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.’

      So rend your heart, and not your garments; return to the Lord your God, for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and of great kindness; and He relents from doing harm. Who knows if He will turn and relent, and leave a blessing behind Him— A grain offering and a drink offering forthe Lord your God?

      Blow the trumpet in Zion, consecrate a fast, call a sacred assembly; gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children and nursing babes; let the bridegroom go out from his chamber, and the bride from her dressing room.

      Let the priests, who minister to the Lord, weep between the porch and the altar; let them say, ‘Spare Your people, O Lord, and do not give Your heritage to reproach, that the nations should rule over them. Why should they say among the peoples, 12 “Now, therefore,” says the Lord,
      “Turn to Me with all your heart,
      With fasting, with weeping, and with mourning.”
      13 So rend your heart, and not your garments;
      Return to the Lord your God,
      For He is gracious and merciful,
      Slow to anger, and of great kindness;
      And He relents from doing harm.
      14 Who knows if He will turn and relent,
      And leave a blessing behind Him—
      A grain offering and a drink offering
      For the Lord your God?
      15 Blow the trumpet in Zion,
      Consecrate a fast,
      Call a sacred assembly;
      16 Gather the people,
      Sanctify the congregation,
      Assemble the elders,
      Gather the children and nursing babes;
      Let the bridegroom go out from his chamber,
      And the bride from her dressing room.
      17 Let the priests, who minister to the Lord,
      Weep between the porch and the altar;
      Let them say, “Spare Your people, O Lord,
      And do not give Your heritage to reproach,
      That the nations should rule over them.
      Why should they say among the peoples,
      ‘Where is their God?’”
      The Land Refreshed

      18 Then the Lord will be zealous for His land,
      And pity His people.
      19 The Lord will answer and say to His people,
      “Behold, I will send you grain and new wine and oil,
      And you will be satisfied by them;
      I will no longer make you a reproach among the nations.
      20 “But I will remove far from you the northern army,
      And will drive him away into a barren and desolate land,
      With his face toward the eastern sea
      And his back toward the western sea;
      His stench will come up,
      And his foul odor will rise,
      Because he has done monstrous things.”
      21 Fear not, O land;
      Be glad and rejoice,
      For the Lord has done marvelous things!
      22 Do not be afraid, you beasts of the field;
      For the open pastures are springing up,
      And the tree bears its fruit;
      The fig tree and the vine yield their strength.
      23 Be glad then, you children of Zion,
      And rejoice in the Lord your God;
      For He has given you the former rain faithfully,[d]
      And He will cause the rain to come down for you—
      The former rain,
      And the latter rain in the first month.
      24 The threshing floors shall be full of wheat,
      And the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil.
      ‘Where is their God?’”

      Then the Lord will be zealous for His land, and pity His people.

      The Lord will answer and say to His people, ‘Behold I will send you grain and new wine and oil, and you will be satisfied by them; I will no longer make you a reproach among the nations…Fear not, O land; Be glad and rejoice, for the Lord has done marvelous things!

      Do not be afraid, you beasts of the field; for the open pastures are springing up, and the tree bears its fruit; thefig tree and the vine yield their strength.

      Be glad then, you children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God; for He has given you the former rain faithfully,and He will cause the rain to come down for you—The former rain, and the latter rain in the first month [Nisan or March 12-April]. The threshing floors shall be full of wheat,and the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil” (Joel 2:  24, NKJV)

      Many Hebrews and Gentiles will turn their hearts to Him (April is looking really good right now). All who seek Him shall be saved. Amen.

      Psalm 23 now more than ever!

  9. Bro. Jes- I have to admit everything you said was right on to me. The Kenites were also from the Serpent seed Cains line. I understand “Election”.

    The N.T as well like you mentioned the O,T. Are Jew and Gentile. We are all Jews when we come into Christ. Millions of Christians believe the Nation of Israel will ALL become Christians and etc. etc.

    Anyway Lord bless you Jes – thanks for the post I appreciate it much.

    In the Love of Christ ———————————-ty

    • Hi Tom, Thanks for bringing up another point. However, just to let you know, the KENITES are not descendants of Cain but Midian (Midian was the son of Ismael, the grandson of Abraham) therefore, they are not the serpent seed. Though, no doubt there does exists a serpent seedline, but there’s also a lot of mix up and false doctrines about the serpent seed, so you’ve got to recheck with Scriptures what you read or you can get badly misled. However, the Kenites were descendants of Abraham and hence a Semitic people. Remember from the multitudes that came out of Egypt, only two persons entered the Promised Land? Those were; one Hebrew – JOSHUA the Ephraimite and one Gentile – CALEB the Kenite. Together the Hebrew & the Gentile entered the Promise Land – The Promised Land is symbolic of God gathering up dedicated Hebrews & Gentiles in the future to live with Him in His Kingdom for Eternity. How awesome is that??? Here’s some links that you would find very interesting: Please read:

      Click to access hurn.pdf


      • Tom York, pardon me br., here’s a correction to the error re. Midian. I noticed it because of the news I just read and decided to do some digging about QATAR helping the Yemenite Jews to return to Israel …. now that was news to my eyes – So here goes:

        1) Midian is the son of KETURA the 2nd wife of Abraham, she is possibly the same Hagar mother of Ishmael whom he married after Sarah died. This woman bore him 6 sons whose names are as follows:
        Now here’s something very interesting; Qatar – phonetic spelling Kaw-Tar is the same KETURA
        Did YHWH allow Abraham this marriage with Ketura the gentile woman to be a blessing to his descendants before the coming of Messiah Yahshua (Jesus)???

        2) The 2nd son of Ketura who is JOKSHAN bore Sheba (Saba) and Dedan. Well, today’s modern day YEMEN was SABA in the ancient times. While one son SABA (Yemen) is persecuting the Jews, on the other hand God is using the mother (Qatar) to help them return home to Israel. What an amazing turn of events. While most don’t see the hand of God here, but it is sure a miracle.

        Check this out: Qatar quietly helping the Yemenite Jews Reach Israel

  10. Bro. DJ – I read your post – and I understand where you coming from and believe it like you as well. The citizens of Israel have to come to Jesus Christ just like anybody else does. They have to except the gospel Message of Jesus Christ. There have been thousands and Thousands of Jews coming to Christ in the last 20 to 30 years. Just like in Acts – Jew and Gentile. At the End – its Jew and Gentile’s making up the Complete Bride again.

    “Spiritual Israel” was “Born in a Day” that happened in Acts. 2 – Jews and Gentiles

    Matt. 23: 37-38 Jesus told Jews that their house is left unto you desolate. They have went through their Abomination of desolation.
    Then God in Mercy restored them back their Nation. The Nation of Israel is just like any other Nation to me now. God did what He waid He would do. They have their government back, Army, Land, they are free to worship again in unity, God has showed them great mercy, and gave them great Propsperity.
    I just don think God owe’s them anymore than any other nation now. They have to be filled with the Holy Spirit or they “naked” as anybody else. The N.T is a “Individual” quest. The Bride “comes out of all nations” the Bible says. In the end time. The New Birth and Creation makes us all ONE.
    Lord bless you DJ ——— In Christs love——ty

    • tom

      the abomination will be repeated, not with a pig as in history, but when the antichrist declares himself god and an image of him is set up in the next temple.

  11. Marianne – Just looking at the facts – Jesus said literally -Matt 23:37-38. And it happen to Israel in 70 a.d. They lost their nation and their way was rejected and they were dispersed all over the world till 1948. And that took 6 million deaths in Germany in ww 2 to make them a Nation again. They paid the price for rejecting their Messiah.
    What else could it be – if that was not an Abomination that made Israel desolate then I do not understand the 2 words.

    The Roman’s in A.D 70. Desecrated the Holiest of Holies as well.

    I do not look for ONE man to come and step into a New Stone Temple and say He is God. If this happens it would be the Pope. The Pope of Rome started visiting Israel in 1964 and their was a eclipse during that week he was there. Papal Rome is the anti-christ that wants to take over again in Jerusalem since she lost it to Islam in 666? somehere in there.

    That is the beginning of the fulfillment of the antichrist and the abomination of desolation that was spoken of in Daniels teachings. For the Christian Church – gentile and jew. That is according to a vindicated Prophet in our day. And its also written in Scriptures and history. Went from Israel’s Temple to Islam’s dome temple that is still there right now.

    I respect Israel highly. But their Government is still governed by sinners that do not know Christ.

    For Christians to be deceived it will have to be a so called Christian to deceive them. We have already got plenty that fit the scriptures below:

    II COR.11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
    15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

    extra – check out the Word – Transformed – Does this mean a rapture

    This post is just my thinking off the top of my head. Not saying its in cement or thus saith the lord. Just my opinion. At the present.

    Lord Bless you dear sister ————–in Christ love ————–ty

    • tom

      I am just going by what scripture says. and there are different ways, unfortunately, to commit an abomination

      in the NT, the AC is declared God.

      Also in Matt 24, we know things are “over” and he has “returned” when we see the sun turn dark and the moon turn red. this matches the 6th seal in revelation. this has not happened yet.

      also nation rising against nation occurred long after 70 AD

      we have false christs still showing up…..

      the time of trouble in Matt 24 matches that of Dan 9, and even though WW2 was horrible, there is a greater war to come, and it says in matt 24:21 that the war would not be like anything since the beginning of the world.

      revelation indicates the global and catastrophic nature of this war. famine sets in also, as well as pestilance and death, and a 1/4 of the world dies…..

      none of this has happened yet.

      there are still events before us.

      it is not over yet…

  12. Yea Marianne – I actually woke up this morning thinking about your question. On 2 abominations that maketh desolate. In Matt. 24:15 I do believe is the same one Jesus was talking about in Matt. 23:37-38 – That ended ONE WORLD and a New World started.
    The world’s of Isarel and Imperial Rome was done away with. But the Spiritual World was Awakened. The Spiritual Kingdom of God was just taking off anew. Even Rome took on what appeared to be a Christian nation. Imperial Rome became Papal or Spiritual Romanism. Christian yet pagan at the chore. Replacing the Sanhedrin into the Holy See. Manmade. Claiming the Pope is the replacement for Jesus Christ. Just like High Priest in Jesus day. Numm to Spiritual things. Desolation had to come cause of that Abomination.

    The thought I had – Is you asked about 2 different abominations. We must remember that when Jesus Rose – that was the start of the last days.

    And the Gentile and Jew N.T church started. But we know at the very beginning of Ephesian age Rev. 2 – they was losing their love for God already.
    Now in the 7th. Age we have the same thing going on as did Israel when Jesus came in the Cloud to His disciples in book of acts and also in the Shekinah Glory Cloud at Mt. Transfiguration

    The N.T church has done exactly like the O.T church did under Moses.
    They Both started in the Goshen with great light. But fell into complete darkness by the time their Messiah came to them. Israel the Most Spiritual Nation the World had ever seen with their great Prophets of power and great Revelations. After captivity in Babylon – Israel was never the great nation again. They got educated and did not believe their prophets etc.

    The same as America and Europe and the world had great revivals and the Power of God was heard all around the world.
    But Now look at the Darkenss in the World.
    Yes this is the 2nd. Abomination that maketh Desolate. Started when Jerusalem was overtaken by Imperial Rome but later turned into Papal Rome ruling. And then in the 600’s A.D the Christian Jerusalem era of anti-christ that the Pope ruled was Overtaken by Isam. And the “Dome of Islam” replaced the Temple mount. Millions and millions of people deceived by the “fairy tales” of the Papal dogma. You believed it or died.

    Unbelief and rejecting God is the Abomination that maketh desolate. It always leads to anti-christ. Israel replaced their Prophets with a system of men trained and taught by man. Same today in this time. Except the Sanhedrin today is a whole lot bigger “system of men” but still has power over men’s souls and merchandise them etc. etc. Rev. 18:7-13 tells it all.

    God bless you Marianne – good discussing things with you. —-ty

    PS – Im trying to keep these post short. Pray for me ok -(smiling)

    • tom

      if revelation has been fulfilled 2000 years ago, we would be in the post millenium period, with satan and his demons gone forever. I do not see that.

  13. Marianne – The Pope is declared as God today. He rules and influences even our Nation and every other Nation.

  14. Tom,

    You didn’t bother to address half of what Marianne proposed above.
    Much is obviously yet to occur.

    • Tom,

      I mean seriously, how do you reconcile Revelation 19:11 through chapters 20, 21, to 22:7.?
      Explain how all of this has already occurred in History???

      There are just way too many pieces of the puzzle missing within the Preterist mind set.

  15. Just a little beginning “summary” of the “Book of Revelation”
    To anybody that wants to read it.

    1st thing you have to understand about the book of Revelation: it’s the Revelation of Jesus Christ – IN THE CHURCH and not just after the church ages are over. – Its not all about the “end time” as we see it in 20th. And 21st. Century though it does fulfill this age as well.

    2nd. Rev. 1:1 Jesus sent the Revelation through JOHN a “angel Messenger”= a MAN. The Message was about the “ Revelation of Jesus Christ in the church” – From the 1st. Age to Last age. — Rev. 22:16 declares it very clearly.
    Rev. 1:4 Him which IS, and which WAS, and which IS TO COME = Come into the midst of His Church ages which is revealed in Chapter 2 – Reveals 2 vines – false vine – and True vine – Always been that way. Since Cain and Abel.
    Rev. 1: 8 John is Declaring Jesus is the Almighty God.
    Rev. 1:12 He has already “COME” into the midst of the church ALL through the 7 AGES – not just the 7th. Age.
    Christ IS, And WAS, And is to COME – Heb. 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today, and forever.

    3rd. We have to understand that Book of Revelation is more a Summary “ Of Christ revealing Himself in His Church“ along with revealing Satan’s anti-christ church as well.
    4th.. If you do not know O.T symbolism’s it about impossible to understand the Book of Revelations.
    5. REV 1:19 Write the things which thou hast seen, and the things which are, and the things which shall be hereafter; =
    1. “ Things hast seen” Church in the “Past time” John walked and Talked with Jesus in past Tribulations.
    2. “ Things which are” – Church in that “Present time“. The Present tribulations and sufferings of anti-christ.
    3. “ Things hereafter” – The Church in the Future. This is NOT talking about the Rapture of the Church as most all futurist try and prove. Jesus is revealing Himself to each church age and what their greatest battles would be with the anti-christ doctrines that they will encounter and the tribulations they will have to fight to Overcome and maybe have to die for in their age. There is a Cain and Abel in every church age. There is an enemy in each age. The 7th. Age should be the greatest age of Mature Believers than all the first 6. But its not that way. Hindsight has done nothing for the 7th. Age believers. It does not interest them. All the N.T church had was the O.T history to study and look back to and find their mistakes. Ask Apostle Paul. Jesus taught His disciples out of the O.T history. And bought it to life in the N.T era. What it really meant.
    4. Most laity have no interest in history and think its irrelevant to the gospel that is now being preached. They actually believe in Balaam teachings, to commit fornications, and be idol worshippers etc. and they see no wrong with Nico-latian systems of men even though that is what killed Jesus Christ and put Him on a Cross. They do not believe in absolutes. Or Prophets, or even the Holy Ghost living in them. The Holy Ghost living in you is not an option it is a MUST HAVE. Try to tell that to most believers.
    5. Jesus is having John write this down for the Future church ages. John already knew what Anti-christ was. Its written in His epistles. He Knew the flesh Jesus “which was” and the one “which is” cause He is talking to Christ in this Vision. John also knows Jesus is coming for more disciples in the future church ages Which Jesus is “to come“ to. Until its completed.
    7. This is why He could say in the last chapter I come quickly, Be ready, I come, Talking to the Future Bride in the Church ages. If you believe the Book of Revelation was written in the 90’s A.D. It would be for the Future church. How ignorant can we be sometimes.
    8. Every Believer has to have a “Coming of Christ” in them. He could not come into their flesh while he was in flesh himself. It’s a Spiritual Coming in each Individual. Making up the Body or Nation of Christ.
    Each Age has to receive their Lords day. And get “caught up” to meet HIM in the AIR. The HOLY GHOST ATMOSHERE is not the world’s atmosphere. To be Raptured is to understand the enemies Method of Operation and stay away from it. The Rapture is in each one of us. But we have to ignite it to “Rise Above” all the fanaticisms that are in the Present day world and Church. Above all the popular doctrines of demons that surround us –
    9. Christ is waiting for the Church to manifest Him. And be His Voice to the multitudes that are swayed away by Satan. Instead the church has becomes its own mouth piece and voice. Teaching fairy tales, and wives tales to their congregations. One rebuke will run off most so called believer in today’s church’s. We trying to teach faith by wisdom instead of the Word of Revelation. The Rightly divided Word will manifest sooner or later in your life and make us stronger and stronger. Till we can be “used of God”

    • tom

      while I can see different church ages, with the opportunities for spiritual elevation in each one, I can also see all of them manifest in each time period. even today, I see all kinds of churches. each time period had its own tribulation, just as my mother thought WW 2 was her antichrist time and end period, and I see a nuclear war and present antichrist figures as mine.

      this gets us through the first few chapters of revelation. then we get to the rest of the book. I have not yet seen giant demon like creatures with heads of men and bodies of horse and tails like snakes appear yet to torment mankind for 5 months. so there is still much to fulfill in the time ahead.

    • Tom,
      I left this comment on another site, it is rather long, but you will find some agreement in there as well as disagreement with what you wrote. This is the comment stream that led me to todays debates on the ark. Take the time to read it, and you will find what is perhaps missing in your view, and what is similar to your views. It comes in two parts, so be patient with me.

      Part 1

      “The Kingdom of God is not coming with signs and wonders to be observed, nor will they say ‘Look here it is!’ or ‘There!’ For behold the Kingdom of God is in the midst of you.” (Luke 17:20-21)

      28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” 29 Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:28-29)

      7 But we have this treasure in jars of clay, to show that the surpassing power belongs to God and not to us. 8 We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; 9 persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; 10 always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our bodies. 11 For we who live are always being given over to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. 12 So death is at work in us, but life in you.
      13 Since we have the same spirit of faith according to what has been written, “I believed, and so I spoke,” we also believe, and so we also speak, 14 knowing that he who raised the Lord Jesus will raise us also with Jesus and bring us with you into his presence. 15 For it is all for your sake, so that as grace extends to more and more people it may increase thanksgiving, to the glory of God.
      16 So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self[d] is wasting away, our inner self is being renewed day by day. 17 For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison, 18 as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal. (2 corinthians 4:7-18)

      For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

      9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders,
      (2 Thess. 4:9)

      It performs great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people, 14 and by the signs that it is allowed to work in the presence of[d] the beast it deceives those who dwell on earth, telling them to make an image for the beast that was wounded by the sword and yet lived. (Rev. 13:13-14)

      When this man heard that Jesus had come from Judea to Galilee, he went to him and asked him to come down and heal his son, for he was at the point of death. 48 So Jesus said to him, “Unless you[c] see signs and wonders you will not believe.” 49 The official said to him, “Sir, come down before my child dies.” 50 Jesus said to him, “Go; your son will live.” The man believed the word that Jesus spoke to him and went on his way. (John 4:47-50)

      Jesus provided all the signs and Wonders we need to believe, But we in this generation are continually looking for the signs of his coming, so much so as to fall prey to false signs and Wonders. Not that anybody reads what I write, But this is the heart of the deception and falling away in the church that I discussed earlier. (Note, especially, the testimony of Thomas regarding Christ in John 20:28-29). Is this not what all false religions have a problem with??

      “Holy,Holy,Holy, is the Lord God Almighty, Who was, and is, and is to come.” (Rev. 4:8) That Last Phrase is a play on the very name of God as revealed to Moses in the Burning Bush “I am that I am”

      While the beast is described as “Was, and is not, and is to come”

      Within this contrast is the heart of the very deception, The belief that At this time, Jesus “is not”…Is not “Immanuel, (God with us), Is not Messiah (King of the Jews), Is not ruling this earth, is not in control, is not in charge….etc. He IS all of these and more. Signs and Wonders are no longer needed to prove HE IS. When He comes again, He will come as “Lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other” Luke 17:24, Or “in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye”, as Paul describes his coming. Though Jesus died on the cross, he never ceased TO BE, Though he humbled himself, and took on the likeness of man, He WAS still God, and Almighty. Though now he is unseen, He is alive and in control, Amen. For we serve a living God, Not one hewn with human hands, Or minds for that matter. He will not need an “Image” to be worshipped, for He IS.

      How many in the churches are “awaiting the arrival of God’s kingdom”? It already IS. It IS in the “midst of you”. He does not need to rise to power, he already Is all powerful. It is Just “not seen”. The things that are “seen” are transient (temporary). “For many will come in my name saying, ‘I am he!’ and, ‘The time is at hand!’ DO NOT GO AFTER THEM. And when you hear of Wars and Tumults, do not be terrified, for these things must first take place, BUT THE END WILL NOT BE AT ONCE.” Once is Eutheos in the greek. It refers to following right away, straightaway.

      I believe, so I speak. If you have taken time to read this, then I pray the Holy Spirit will help you understand what is being said. I don’t even know if I fully understand yet, but nonetheless, I speak. Do not confuse “signs of his coming”, with “signs and wonders”.

      • not sure where you are leading with all this.

        brevity is a virtue, along with a point clearly stated.

        the kingdom of God is within us, but at this time, very few demonstrate this in their lives.

        because of this, the kingdom is not really manifest well on this earth, and the kingdom of darkness rules this earth.

        and so because of this , things will get worse, and Messiah has to return, this time he stays, and rules on earth, after destroying the wicked.

        Jesus has always been Immanuel, but while he was here, he was not called that. He was recognized later, in hindsight, as Immanuel, by a small number. In the future, his glory will be so evident as he rules on earth, that everyone will bow the knee and proclaim it.

    • Tom,
      Okay, here is where you have misunderstood the plain language.
      Yes, the first thing that you, (or anyone), has to understand is that Revelation 1:1. is true.
      As rendered in the King James it reads;

      “The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:”

      So what is “revelation”? As I have stated to you before, the English word “revelation” was translated from the Greek “ἀποκάλυψις”, transliterated as “apokalypsis”.
      It is defined by Strong’s as being, “1) laying bare, making naked. 2) a disclosure of truth, instruction. a) concerning things before unknown. b) used of events by which things or states or persons hitherto withdrawn from view are made visible to all. 3) manifestation, appearance.”

      It is defined by Vines as, “Appear, Appearing: literally, “an uncovering, unveiling” (apo, “from,” kalupto, “to hide, cover”), denotes “a revelation, or appearing”

      Now this “revelation was given to John, (not an angel but a man that was an Apostle of the Lords) approximately between the years of 70 AD to 90 AD.
      Therefore if the Word of God is true, (which I wholeheartedly believe that it is), the Book of Revelation would contain NO information prior to 70 AD. No history at all prior to at least 70 AD. This is clearly what the word itself means to “reveal something that was previously unknown”!

      God didn’t give Yeshua a “message” of what had occurred in the past, for if He did John could have written the Greek word “ἀγγελία”, transliterated as “aggelia”, (Strong’s 31), which is defined as, “1) message, announcement, news. 2) a proclamation, command, order.”
      God gave Him a Revelation, (of information that was previously unknown) to show His followers, things that must shortly come to pass, or in other words, “things that will occur in the future” from the time that John received this vision.

      Just to substantiate the truth in that, Revelation 1:3., states;

      “Blessed [is] he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time [is] at hand.”

      The Greek word “προφητεία”, transliterated as “prophēteia” has been translated into the English “prophecy” above. “Prophēteia”, (Strong’s 4394) is defined as, “1) prophecy. a) a discourse emanating from divine inspiration and declaring the purposes of God, whether by reproving and admonishing the wicked, or comforting the afflicted, or revealing things hidden; esp. by foretelling future events. b) Used in the NT of the utterance of OT prophets. 1) of the prediction of events relating to Christ’s kingdom and its speedy triumph, together with the consolations and admonitions pertaining to it, the spirit of prophecy, the divine mind, to which the prophetic faculty is due. 2) of the endowment and speech of the Christian teachers called prophets. 3) the gifts and utterances of these prophets, esp. of the predictions of the works of which, set apart to teach the Gospel, will accomplish for the kingdom of God.”

      To believe that any “history” is mentioned at all within the book, is literally to deny and discard the Word of God and the “Revelation” that He gave to Yeshua our Lord to show His servants and followers things that will shorty happen in the future. How can you possibly do that with a good conscience?

      If one happens to be doing a mathematical equation and makes a mistake right at the beginning the answer that they end up with will only be wrong.
      It will simple be inaccurate and mumbo-jumbo.
      The above is clearly stated within the first three (3) verses.

  16. Part 2

    What is it that currently is concealed, and soon will be unveiled? Their are two veils mentioned in the OT, the veil of a bride, and the veil of the harlot.

    Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses’ face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.
    12 Since we have such a hope, we are very bold, 13 not like Moses, who would put a veil over his face so that the Israelites might not gaze at the outcome of what was being brought to an end. 14 But their minds were hardened. For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. 15 Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16 But when one[c] turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. 17 Now the Lord[d] is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. 18 And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord,[e] are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit. (2 corinthians 10:7-17)

    The veil of a harlot is obvious here. Those who deny their Messiah, the Jewish people. What is not obvious is the veil of the bride. “when one turns to the Lord the veil is removed”. Meaning that between a Christian and their Lord there is no veil, but when the world looks upon the righteous they look through that old veil and see only our veiled faces.

    17 “They shall be mine, says the Lord of hosts, in the day when I make up my treasured possession, and I will spare them as a man spares his son who serves him. 18 Then once more you shall see the distinction between the righteous and the wicked, between one who serves God and one who does not serve him. (Malachi 3:17-18)

    What then is veiled in the here and now? The distinction between the righteous and the wicked.

    8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will kill with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming. 9 The coming of the lawless one is by the activity of Satan with all power and false signs and wonders, 10 and with all wicked deception for those who are perishing, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11 Therefore God sends them a strong delusion, so that they may believe what is false, 12 in order that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. (2 thess. 2:8-12)

    Notice, “The appearence of his coming”: Why not “by his coming”? Because He has never left us. He IS, and He IS to come. Many live their lives as if Jesus is not here among us. Many believe he is coming to rule the earth. But he is here now, and ruling the earth. He is in control of the events we speak of, and a the veil which “restrains” will be removed. Just as the “Mystery of Lawlessness” is already at work, so too is the kingdom of God, Preparing his bride. The Lawless one is concealed by Satan, while the bride is concealed by Jesus.

    There is so much to say here. But i will stop here. The Wheat and the tares are growing together. They are all in the same field, and until the harvest is ready, the removal of the tares would only weaken the roots of the wheat. Jesus is the light of the World. He will shine his Light on the wicked, and they will be revealed, We too are the light in the world. Right now we are in Jars of clay, as with Gideons army. Soon those lights will burn bright with the Oil, which will confound, and confuse the wicked. In the darkness, the light shines brightest. To God be the Glory.

    Psalm 113, To those who have ears to hear, and eyes to perceive.
    God bless,

  17. Marianne,
    This is for you as well, regarding this posting, and what has been written earlier between us. You will see here that this comes not from the teachings of “Man”, or my “own understanding”, But from the Word of God alone. I am moved by the Spirit to write these things. Up until several weeks ago, I was gung ho for this ark being revealed, but then the Lord had me do my homework. When I said in the first comment, i do not know where this is heading, I did not know it would involve the ark. by the second comment, I was still unsure.

    So Judge me if you must, but this is my “thinking” process.

    There has been an urgency in this message that I have not experienced before. That is all I can say.

    • dru

      I appreciate the Word and the Spirit as well.

      I think if the ark is to be revealed in the future, that it would be used for the next temple.

      scripture says the AC will stand in the holy place and declare himself god.

      so there would be a relationship between the ark discovery and the AC , indirectly.

      i do not see the ark as an image of the AC or beast, but still an image of God and his law and holiness. it would sit in the holy of holies.

      in this sense, the ark and its true purpose would be “betrayed” by the abomination that is placed in the holy place, which is exterior to where it sits in the innermost chamber.

      the abomination would “take the place” of the ark in an evil purpose, and block the access to the holy place, jut as any abomination or sin blocks our own access to God in general

      • Marianne,
        You state “I think if the ark is to be revealed in the future, that it would be used for the next temple.” According to Jeremiah 3:15-18, and ezekial chapters 40-45, The ark will not be in the millenial temple. In fact by the Jeremiah passage, It will not even be “remembered”, Because the Lord’s Prescence will fill the temple, And Jerusalem will be the throne of the Lord.

        Find one verse to say that the ark will be in the millenial temple, and then i will consider it.

        The ark is the only item that fits the description of something that was Holy, Is not now Holy, and will be raised for dubious purposes. The description of the “image” in revelation 13, and the thing that is made to do Match exactly what the ark was capable of doing found in Exodus and leviticus, as I pointed out to you before. “Speaking”, “Making fire come down before the people”, “Killing those who do not worship”, Though there is a coercive nature to these actions, Because Mercy and grace and Love is not in the devils vocabulary.

        We who believe are the new ark of the covenant. Those who Believe the Word, Have the Spirit within us, and Have the Law written upon our hearts. We are the temple, The veil is the Mortal flesh. Until you understand this, you will not fully understand the apostolic church. See Jeremiah 31:31-40 for this confirmation.

        As for brevity, I believe in thoroughness is virtue, But that is Just me.
        God bless

        • dru

          the next temple is the tribulation temple.

          Ezechiel’s temple comes later.

          I understand that each of us is a temple, (not ark), according to scripture, but that does not mean the original ark is not buried somewhere.

          While it could happen as you say, it is hard to believe.

          Scripture never said it lost its power or holiness.

          I do not see how God would allow such a holy powerful representation of His presence to suddenly be converted into an object of evil.

          and I do not see how the ark will “do” satan’s bidding, instead of God’s.

          • Marianne,
            2 corinthians 3:11 “For if what was being brought to an end came with glory (was Holy, Is not now Holy), Much more will that which is permanent have glory.”

            The word done away with(KJV), and Brought to an end(ESV) is the greek word “katargeō”

            Defined as:

            to render idle, unemployed, inactivate, inoperative

            a) to cause a person or thing to have no further efficiency

            b) to deprive of force, influence, power

            2) to cause to cease, put an end to, do away with, annul, abolish

            a) to cease, to pass away, be done away

            b) to be severed from, separated from, discharged from, loosed from any one

            c) to terminate all intercourse with one

            Conclusion: IS NOT HOLY Now.

            Whether this ark that is to be produced is the actual ark, or not is a whole different debate. It is designed to fool the people of Israel into believing it is the real thing. To have the church speculate on such an object is asking for it to partake in the deception. Are you sure you want to go there?

            I could put up 30 sites to debunk the work of Wyatt, but instead I chose to argue from scripture with 30+ references from the Word of God as per your request. Yet you say I am relying on the teachings of Man? why because I used Hebrew 4 christians as a secondary confirmation. The author of the Post used 3 sites in his original post, and several more in his comments. Who is it that is relying on the teachings of man?? Where is your outrage at that??

            I guess I am alone on this one. That is OK though. DJ, If you must, test the Spirit in me. I confess that Jesus has come in the flesh and was fully man, and I confess that Jesus is the Son of God, (fully divine/ God). What is it that 1 John 4:6 says, “by this you will know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.”

            Last time I was here, I came to warn you that the separation of the wheat and the tares will be done by the angel of the Lord, and that you were headed into dangerous ground if you thought you had the power to do this. In your cockiness, You ignored this warning. I even deliberately put an error in my timeline, which none of you even dared to “check” on. I even hinted at this error by saying that “I like to be proved wrong”. If you “Missed” this, then what have you missed regarding Wyatt. The fact that his teaching is contrary to the Gospel, and testimony of Jesus. His Blood is sprinkled upon us not upon some box that was “done away with”, or “put to an end”. You are no “seer”, or “light bearer” if you cannot catch these errors, Or for that matter, do not even know that the “Angel of the Lord” will separate the wheat and the tares (Matthew 13:41). Do you even know why I warned you of this?? Because in doing so you risk committing the unpardonable sin. (Matt.12:22-32) If you saw a child of yours about to fall off a cliff, would you not “yell” “Stop!”?? or would you let them fall?? That is what I tried to do for you, out of love, to get your attention, and instead you saw it as an attack on you. Accusing Me of not having the Holy Spirit, but a Demonic Spirit. I speak from experience here, for I nearly did the same with Marie Jean, regarding the Jubilee year, But the Lord stopped me.

            Let the tares grow amongst the wheat, and let the Angel of the Lord take care of them. Do as the “Son of Man” commanded. I say these things as a brother in Jesus. We are meant to learn from each other, The Holy Spirit within each of us. No one man holds all the Truth. No One church does either. It is the person that is able to receive the teachings of others, that will look upon the face of God with fear and trembling, seeing their weekness, and lack of understanding the whole plan of God. To do otherwise is to put yourself on a pedestal between God and man, much like “Da Pope” does. You cannot serve the Lord, until you appreciate the fact that you are the least. Least deserving, least worthy, least respected…..You get the point.

            That is what the Lord sent me back here to do regarding the “ark of Wyatt”. You can heed my warning, or you can fall prey to his “sensuality” (James 3:15, Jude 18-19). That is up to you.

            I am no prophet, I am merely a brother in Jesus who has seen another brother walking towards a cliff, and am trying to yell “STOP!”. Perhaps a few who are following in your footsteps will heed that warning, if not you yourself.

            Israel will be redeemed, but first they will drink of the cup of the wrath of God, a full measure. But the Lord will save them despite that. So yes, Romans 11 does apply, nor do I deny this. Do you need scriptures for the above point? or will you do your homework?

            John 17:25-26

            • dru

              it is very possible that a fake ark could be produced, and used by the AC. I just cannot imagine God allowing the real one to be used in an evil manner.

              I do not remember DJ saying he had the power to separate the wheat from the tares….can you give me a comment # ?

              it is also possible for people to write comments containing mistakes. this happens all the time as people think through what they believe. writing here is sometimes a process, and making mistakes, and correcting them later is the improvement after thinking some more. I would not say this makes them a “tare.” just someone on a journey, trying out different ideas, until they arrive at the truth.

              people may not double check every word you say. esp if you write a long comment.

              I guess the ark of wyatt will become evident in the future as either valid or not. this post is assuming it will come out of hiding and give glory to god. Others, like yourself, may see it as something bad.

              I think we should just consider each other’s view, and then wait and see how things turn out.

              • Marianne, I will reply to the second paragraph in private. No need to get others involved. You can share it with DJ then, privately. I am not trying to hide it from him.

                Like I said, Whether the “ark of Wyatt” is the real thing or not, is a whole different debate.

                That last sentence is all I ask.

              • DJ,
                I Just want to make sure that Marianne sent the email to you which I sent to her. Can you confirm this. No need to comment on it here.

          • Hi Marianne,

            I see and understand the concept that Dru is proposing, (and I believe that he is referring to the next temple, rather than the Millennial Temple, and using it to verify in Jeremiah 3:16., that it is not required, nor to even be thought of).

            I believe that what he is saying is that…. like the Temple is not required anymore, neither is the Ark, and that though it was once Holy, but is now not Holy, (because it is not required anymore), it will be utilized by satan to further his cause as a counterfeit holy. Hence the “yet is”.

            Other verses that may possibly confirm this would be Numbers 7:8,9., 1 Samuel 5:1,2. and 6:1.

            I am not fully on page with this yet, but will mull it over in the Spirit to see what He says regarding it. But I wouldn’t necessarily simply dismiss the theory.
            satan will utilize all means to give credence to this counterfeit holiness that he desires, and if the Ark is not required anymore by God the Father, then perhaps satan will utilize it to further his cause. God Himself will deceive the people to believe the lie.

            Be Blessed in Yeshua our Most Holy and Gracious Savior.

        • dru,

          Your comment/reply here and in another location, which I can’t seem to find deserves a reply.

          Somewhere you claimed Ron Wyatt was a con man.

          I will address your statement under “Lost Ark? God Forbid!”

  18. Accepted,

    Thank you for providing the complete definition of “prophet”. I was about to seek one out and you did it, thank you!

    With your excellent, unexpected yet timely delivery…ahumm, I wish to change the subject. If you and others don’t want to go along this line of discorce – okay. 

    The False Prophet seems to me (by definitions) da Pope (Father Guido Sarducci voice).

    Yup, it’a da Pope.

    I found the description summary of da Pope and within the church dogma, ahummm… I read this and share with you, my brother of definitions.


    The Greek word “προφητεία”, transliterated as “prophēteia” has been translated into the English “prophecy” above. “Prophēteia”, (Strong’s 4394) is defined as, “1) prophecy. a) a discourse emanating from divine inspiration and declaring the purposes of God, whether by reproving and admonishing the wicked, or comforting the afflicted, or revealing things hidden; esp. by foretelling future events.

     b) Used in the NT of the utterance of OT prophets. 1) of the prediction of events relating to Christ’s kingdom and its speedy triumph, together with the consolations and admonitions pertaining to it, the spirit of prophecy, the divine mind, to which the prophetic faculty is due. 2) of the endowment and speech of the Christian teachers called prophets. 3) the gifts and utterances of these prophets, esp. of the predictions of the works of which, set apart to teach the Gospel, will accomplish for the kingdom of God.”

    da Pope:

    “We adhering faithfully to the tradition received from the beginning of the Christian faith, to the glory of God, our Saviour, the elevation of the Catholic religion and the salvation of Christian peoples, with the approbation of the sacred Council, teach and explain that the dogma has been divinely revealed: 

    [here is the nugget] 

    that the Roman Pontiff [da Pope] when he speaks ex cathedra [what?] that is, when carrying out the duty of the pastor and teacher of all Christians [speak for yourself]  by his supreme apostolic authority [here it is] he [da Pope] defines a doctrine of faith or morals to be held by the universal Church [note capital the “C”], through the divine assistance promised him in blessed Peter [what about Christ the Lord?], operates with that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer wished that His church [no typo here – it is a small “c” ] be instructed in defining doctrine on faith and morals; and so such definitions of the Roman Pontiff [da Pope] from himself, but not from the consensus of the Church [back to a capital “C”], are unalterable.”

    But if anyone presumes to contradict this definition of Ours, which may God forbid: let him be anathema” [sure].

    Da Pope gets his information from a spirit (name that one), then tells his church [Catholic], what to do, how to do, when to do and then do it or else.

    Seems to me [I don’t know], that da Pope is the heavy favorite for False Profit giving the AC the keys to the gold vault and whatever else they have below the City (Oz). 

    Open for your thoughts on this speculation and applications of definitions. The answer will be known before Passover 2013. 

    Father Guido Sarducci makes me laugh. Thought about putting up a link, but this is not a comedy blog.


    • in all that, it did not actually say he was a prophet…..just getting picky

      he, sometimes funny stuff happens here.! 🙂

    • Hi DJ,

      Not sure that I get your point there bro?
      Personally, though I believe that God the Father knows, and the Lord Yeshua will judge, that there are true followers of His within that cult like organization, it is my opinion that their theology is whacked.

      Whether da pope, is the false prophet or not?…… Well it is certainly possible.
      Time will tell one way or the other.

      Other than saying that, I’m not sure as how else to respond to your post?

      Be Blessed in Yeshua HaMashiach our Most Holy and Precious Savior.

  19. Hi Marianne, and all,

    Thanks for relating your dream, and its meaning. I will try to be concise as I have over time posted on the Noah’s ark pages with the same material of biblical prophecy.

    -17th January 749 AD, Great earth quake of Jerusalem which commenced the accounting of 1260 years of the two witnesses and completed on the 9th January 2009 (Julian/Gregorian Calendars difference)
    -Thereafter, precisely 120 days after, the UNISDR report on mitigating the effects of the natural elements tantamount to total blasphemy against God, and ‘killed’ the two witnesses on the 19th May 2009.
    -1260 days thereafter, the spirit of God enters the two witnesses, on the 30th October 2012, indicated by the Super storm Sandy, the like of which has not been witnessed on earth for many generations. Sandy made landfall on New-york and Washington DC, the world headquarters of the UN, who has 1260 days before written off God from their affairs, by international consent of the report on disaster reduction and mitigation by the strength of man, rather than by trusting in God.
    -1290 days from the point of reference culminated on the 29th November 2012, on which date there was the vote in the UN on Palestinian statehood, a diabolical vote whose end was just that. Also as we entered December, the abomination of desolation was greatly anticipated and came to nothing other than the indoctrination of the human mindset over the cause and destiny of judgments by disasters on earth. The propaganda campaign had run its course several years and came to desolation on the appointed 22nd December 2012 and about when nothing of its prophecies was confirmed.
    1335 days ended on the 12th January 2013, upon which the world, USA and Europe in particular had been undergoing trial by pestilence. It is on the 12th January however that the flu emergency was declared and about this time that the flu ‘season’ passed beyond an epidemic.
    This declaration and the threat of flu against the world are such of significance, especially with this emergency in New-York being declared exactly upon the 1335 day, and 75 days after sandy made land fall, and the significance of New-York as the UN headquarters, of the world, are not just mere co-incidence.
    -Therefore, these three dates have been confirmed, and a great pity that few recognize them for what they have been. This may be the sign of Jonah, and the sign of the coming of the son of man. So far it has been the signs with limited destruction.
    -Thereafter, within the same hour that who behold these things (understand these signs) are elevated in knowledge of the Kingdom of heaven (called up to heaven) there is prophesied a great earthquake, that should refer to about 15 days after the consummation of the last sign. Also there is a time after Noah entered the ark before the rains fell, with Noah was 7 days, with this time should be about 14 days. The 14 days coincide with the full moon also and is upon the 27th January 2013.
    -All I’m saying is to learn these truths and observe the work of God, to also remember to give him glory, for his judgments are now upon earth and the timing is clearly spelt out. Prophecy does not lie, although our limited understanding over time may be defective, as I have also borne even on this site before, but we are all taught of our loving Rabbi. Let us all await in great reverence over what is currently happening and about to happen.
    -The connection to the your dream is this, that indeed we are about to come to this appointed time of slaughter. Three years of spiritual darkness have come to pass, with the end of 1335 accounting as above mentioned. Thereafter is judgment.
    -Unfortunately, we only regard the great and terrible episodes to arouse us from our slumber. The prophecies however have come to pass and we would do well to so comprehend. For in the appointed time of destruction, now to follow, there the slaughter will be terrible as it happens in vengeance (winter) against our general ignorance of God’s ways, and fleeing (seeking truth) when the slaughter is commenced (appointed day=sabbath) will rather be non-rewarding, as it will be a second too late. The slaughter is bound to be terrible as it must be in vengeance and jealousy of the Lord, seeing that there is too little faith to be found on earth. (Do not be deceived by the masses who purport to follow God, yet factor not his doing upon earth in their time, as in Sandy, the ongoing flu pandemic and each and every deed of the Lord that we ignore to our detriment.)

    We may not all agree as to these matters, but do consider the various coincidences. By personal testimony, from the 12th January 2013, yea, the appointed culmination of 1335 days, I have been blessed with renewed, clear and acute comprehension of the scriptures, and entire chapters that before held only superficial meaning now I ‘m re-reading with wonderful and great awe of comprehension. Indeed, I would be sharing, and that in due course of time, for at present I’m more than preoccupied with first seeking the understanding for myself.

    God be with you all and be your refuge during the soon coming storm against the relentless careless world.


    • hi john

      can you explain from scripture that the 1260 days would start with an earthquake? And how weather patterns fit into this , from scripture?

      the signs were to be antichrist, abomination of desolation, israelis fleeing Jerusalem, war, famine, pestilance, and martyrdom….it would all end with the 6th seal, with a global earthquake and christ return when the sun and moon turned dark (Rev 6, and Matt 24) . I have not seen all this yet.

      and who are the 2 witnessses who got killed in the eyes of everyone, and then were raised from the dead?

  20. Dru – I agree with you brother on most all of your post above. Maybe not every little bit. But I look at the whole of a teaching not just trying to find fault with some small thing that is not that significant.
    I try and see the whole picture. Many people get hung up on a verse and quit reading.
    Word explains word – Just keep reading – Eventually it comes all together.

    Marianne – I read your posts – and have kept back the points you said. I will get back with you. Maybe just 1 or 2 at a time. I do not want to get into a hurry. I need to slow down –
    Most all Messages including Futurist have many different understandings of the Bible . So do Preterist.

    Lord bless you both ——————–in Christs love ——-ty

  21. Tom,
    So you have completely discard Romans 11?
    “I say then, Hath God cast away His people? God forbid….” (Romans 11:1, KJ).

    Say! Look at that “God Forbid”. I’ve seen that phrase before…somewhere…recently.

    Have a nice day and enjoy the sunshine.

    Psalm 1 Amplified Translation

  22. I’m reading all kinds of things in the comments some make sense most don’t. However, I’m not here to criticize but to share something very important and hope everyone will take interest and do more research.

    So… Everyone knows the present pope, but how many know who the present “black pope” is ?

    and does anyone know who the next & future pope is, who is called ‘Petrus Romanus’ (Peter the Roman) ??

    Tom Horn & Chris Putnam are the ‘pope chasers’ check them out on youtube or google
    Also check this out … for THEY did it in the past since millenniums and they are gonna do it again SOON …. if you’re worried about Islam, just add more to the worry basket… Plus there’s still more but this is enough on the plate right now…. I’ll leave it for later.
    Anyways, this is a MUST READ:

    Be Blessed.

    • jes
      st malachy predicted 111 popes from his time. 112 th pope peter romanus was added later. their is no one with that name on earth who can be the next pope. Jesus is the next pope.

      • Yeshua is the next pope?
        Now that is entertaining lol.
        Will He wear a funky pointed little hat too?
        That cracks me right up.

        • OMG!! I can’t tell you how much I have been laughing about this ridiculous idea of ‘Jesus being the last pope’. Well, on second thought it could possibly be “Jesus the Mithra” with the funky pointed hat BUT definitely NOT YAHOSHUA HaMASHIACH The King of Y’SRAEL and the whole world!!

      • Dear Adam, First of all before you make a comment or respond to one, you’ve got to read and understand that particular subject. However, here are two excerpts from Wikipedia.
        [[ There is a claim that the original list written by St. Malachy does not contain a reference to Petrus Romanus and that the last lines were added to the printed text in Wyon’s Lignum Vitæ. This, however, cannot be proved, as the original manuscript (if any) probably no longer exists.
        Other interpretations: “That last line of the prophecy of St. Malachy is usually interpreted as a reference to the LAST POPE (Petrus Romanus, the last in the list), who will be very important for Catholics (“who will pasture his sheep in many tribulations”), and his pontificate will end with the destruction of Rome (“and when these things are finished, the city of seven hills will be destroyed”) ]] UNQUOTE:

        I have the bk ‘Petrus Romanus’ by Tom Horn & Chris Putnam. It is also very interesting that this same ‘Petrus Romanus’ would have the name pope Pius X after the last pope Pius X. I’m not going to print all that it says in the book as it also has to do with the message of Lucia and so on, it’s a lot. However, with the Vatican, anything is possible whether it be a dream, vision or an agenda laid up hundreds of years ago or even a change made later in that same agenda.

        I’m not Christian or Catholic so catholic stuff is really not of importance to, but, in this case it pertains to the coming Great Tribulation involving the Beast, the Anti-messiah, and the False Prophet and though I can’t be 100% sure of the first two, but am pretty sure about the False Prophet being the last pope whatever his name maybe. Ironically the same Petrus Romanus is mentioned in Jewish history too and it’s pretty interesting.
        As for Jesus being the last pope … that was a LAUGH OUT LOUD!! Because all through the centuries the Catholics claimed Peter to be the pope and now suddenly Jesus switches place with Peter???? Get a grip Adam!! Study a good Bible.

        • Jes
          St. Malachy predicted 111 popes from his time and now we have the 111 pope so something happens after or during this popes time.Their is only 2 paths. One is Rome will be destroyed or second Jesus will take over so we will not have more popes.We have a saying in Sweden that says who laughs first laughs last. I know that Jesus is in the Vatican now and waiting for his time to start. They are waiting for Nibiru to come here first.

          • Hi Adam, I repeat this St. Malachy did predict that AFTER 111 popes would be the 112th pope who would be Petrus Romanus – the wicked pope that even Catholics today believe. There are experts out there who have written about this – Read the 486 page book which is more detailed rather than listen to people or being a psuedo-reader even of the Bible – this isn’t good, I’m not criticizing you but just giving you some good advice for acquiring good knowledge for the benefit of your soul because I can see you are all confused.
            First of all let me get this straight and I’m not gonna repeat this again. The Savior who is coming to save mankind and this world is NOT Catholic but He is a HEBREW, His real name is YAHOSHUA (not Jesus). He is from the tribe of YAHUDAH (Judah) that is why He is called “THE LION OF JUDAH”. He is the King of kings, Lord of lords, & God of all gods. For heaven’s sakes, He is not the final pope … there’s a lot you don’t know please study a good Christian or Hebrew Bible, if you don’t understand something, we here can help you get on the right track and into the Light of the Jesus who died on the cross for you and all mankind. Be Blessed.

            • Jes
              you say the savior is not a Catholic he is a Hebrew. you can be both of them. But Jesus who will be the next pope is from hebrew blood. He is from Judah tribe and he is not Catholic he is Ortodox Christian and he will return to his Church the Vatican before he enters Jerusalem. You say his name is Yahoshua. That was his name last time he was here. Now his name is Yakoov/Jacob Israel and not Peter Romanus. No Cardinal has the name Peter romanus and no Cardinal will take the name in future. I can give you some info here. Isa 17 Jacobs fat but becomes lean when damascus stoppes been a city is now and describes Jesus/Jacobs body. He is fat now but starts to wax lean.
              Thanks that you want to help me but I don´t think I need your help. I´m just hear to hear what protestants say about Christianity.

              My mother comes from Jesus blood. When Jesus ascended to heaven his family moved to Efesos and when Efesos was destroyed in a earthquake they moved to the closest city called Manisa. My mother is from Manisa and she has Hebrew blood from judah tribe. They became muslims but I am Christian. I´m the answer to Da vinci code. But Jesus and Magdalena didn´t have any children. I´m from his family. I have 40000 people who lives around me and protect me against evilness. I will soon move to Rome and live with Jesus when he holds the doom from their. 🙂

              • Adam, I hate to say this but really, your mind is so distorted. This is how satan numbs the minds of people who are very comfortable with the teaching of their priests, satan’s very own disciples. The blind are leading the blind and both are on the verge of falling into the deepest pit of no return. Words of Yahshua in Matthew 15:14=Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
                Your family history wasn’t necessary at all but the fact the you mentioned that you mother was a Jew but both parents became muslim, shows how confused your family really is. You also so that you are the answer to the da vinci code, that Mary Magdalena & Jesus were married, that you are moving to Rome to live there, etc. .. OMG!! I have never read such mumbo jumbo anywhere.
                Anyways, the COPTICS say that they are the descendants thru Jesus & Mary Magdalena which was proven 101% WRONG!!!!!! And now you say they didn’t have children. So here you have different false teaching. With ALL this crap filled in your head just what are you trying to achieve?? Are you playing games?? Are you here to confuse people?? Or Are you here to make mockery of the deity of the real Jesus (YAHOSHUA)?? Be warned this is blasphemy unto the Holy Creator of Heaven & Earth.

                Well, Adam, NO more jokes. Take this as a SERIOUS WARNING!!!!
                REPENT & RETURN to the True SAVIOR, the UNMARRIED JESUS of NAZARETH, the soon coming KING or suffer the consequences of burning in the Lake-Of-Fire for Eternity!!!!!

                EZEKIEL: 3:18=Suppose I tell you that wicked people will surely die, but you don’t warn them or speak out so that they can change their wicked ways in order to save their lives. Then these wicked people will die because of their sin, but I will hold you responsible for their deaths

                EZEKIEL: 33:9=But if you warn a wicked person to turn from his ways and he doesn’t turn from them, then he will die because of his sin. However, you will save yourself.

                Adam, I have already warned you, so my hands are clean. I pray you will come to your senses before time runs out completely for you.

                • jes
                  jesus and magdalena was not married. magdalena was jesus lover. I said my family moved to todays turker around year 33 and they was jewish then and then the family bacame Christians and when turkey became muslims they became muslims too. my parents havent changed faith they have been lost all the time (muslims). you misunderstood me. forget about my blood.

                  • Ok sorry about the misunderstanding about the conversion of your parent to Islam. I get it now that they had to go thru FORCED CONVERSION by the Islamic Turks when they invaded Armenia formerly known as Smyrna (Revelation 2: 8-11, and the part occupied by the those Turks is today called Azerbaijan. Is this the part they were from?? I feel sad.

                    Anyway Adam, let’s forget about the ‘Jesus’ issue OK, there’s a lot of trouble coming upon the Earth soon so let’s focus on that and on prayer.

      • I’ll bet you anything you want Jesus isn’t the next Pope AND that Jesus will never come back!!!

    • Well, I can see how, (within the link above), that to, “furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants’ heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus.” fulfills that of John 13:34. to a tee. 🙂

      I can see how even a radical Muslim would want to sign up for this too, for this whole deception and premise is similar to what is stated within the Quran as well.

      Man do we ever live in one messed up world.
      Come Yeshua Come. It is time for Your Glory to Reign upon this Earth.

  23. Strong word there accepted. I wonder how Adam justifies this as “Christian Love”?

    • did adam make a comment on accepted’s comment? don’t see it

    • Dru/Selänne

      This is not Christian love. Let me explain how we see on this. When we read the Bible we read that their is a group of people that will be closed in a empty room in heaven for eternity. This group for us is the none Orotodox or Catholic churches. Thoose who are baptised but not in Jesus Church. Mat. chap 7 21-24 and in Luke also this people for us iis protestants, baptist, jehova etc = none Ortodox or Catholics.
      We know that orders from the Vatican has killed 20-50 millions protestants.
      This is nothing we are proud of. But my question to you is if the Vatican hadn´t given this orders then we would have much more people who didn´t belong to Jesus. if Vatican hadn´t given this orders we would probably have more than 100 milj protestants closed in a empty room in heaven forever. Today many people is Catohlics because this order. Satan (protestant) forced the Vatican to take evil orders to clean up the mess that Martin luther started and Hitler was inspired of him. Don´t forget King Henric the 8th turned whole england from Catholic to Protestant because he wanted to marry a new young wife that Vatican said no too. He didn´t turn England because he thougt it was the right thing to do. Only his hunger for a nice looking bride and because he wanted a son.
      Soon the passover/easter fasting starts for me which means 40 days without meat for me. Your faith is free from this. Remember that NT says choose the little port not the wide port. If you compare the Ortodox church and your baptist Church it is easy to understand that your church is the wide port.
      I have no right to Judge you, only God has but we have leaders who have told us through history that you are fake Christians and thoose leaders have access to heavy stuff that you don´t.

      Tell me one protestant person who have given prophecy to us? Nostradamus=jew then Catholic. St Malachy=Catholic has. It is God behind future propheicies. The OT tells us to be a prophet you have to say something unique about future and it must happen. Muhammed and protestants havent given this to us so for us you are Satans work.

      I have given many propheicies on this site time will tell if I´m right or not. Nibiru is one and that we will not follow the book Rev.

      God will judge us in future and time will tell who is right.

      • Adam,
        Let me get this straight. “Satan (protestent) forced vatican to take evil orders to clean up the mess…”.

        According to Adam:
        Satan is responsible for the protestent churches…But you have leaders who have told you this (that we are fake Christians)…They have Judged us as so…But you have no right to judge us….yet you accept those leaders judgement of us.

        From our perspective, Luther was inspired by the indulgences and corruption of the catholic church leaders. He exposed this with his 95 thesis on wittenbergs door. These leaders, rather than repenting, chose instead to persecute those who opposed them.

        Luther used the Word of God as his “sword, The “leaders” in your church used “Torture devices” and Literal swords. Who is being “Like Christ” here? Who is “Loving one another as he Loved us”. Did Jesus use a physical sword to smite his enemies? No he suffered and died for us. As he hung on the cross, he said “Father forgive them, for they know not what they are doing”. This is the same thing I will say when a catholic, or whoever, comes to kill me.

        There is one thing that I do know. The people in the catholic church are not like the leaders in that church. They are victims of these coercians, and I would die for them so as to expose this corruption to them. You see, the more you persecute a Christian, the more his testimony reaches those who would not otherwise “see”. This is why the catholic church has been unable to destroy the “protestents”. Because the more you kill, the more converts you create. Just Like stephens death led to Paul’s conversion.

        The Catholic church has Just as much blood on their hands with regards to Hitler, as Italy was allied with him as well. The Catholic church has persecuted Jews in the inquisition and crusades as well. So if you are going to use hitler against us, Then you are ignoring the Log in your own eye.

        For your sake, You are not justifying the actions of your church, you are justifying the actions of its corrupt leaders.

        So are you claiming to be a prophet? which one are you? Elijah? Adam the Swede? Baalam?

        Me, I am just a man. I do not need a “prophet” to believe the Word of God…Sola Scriptura you know…I could make “vague” prophecies too, like “it will snow in sweden this winter” but that does not a prophet make. So yes, there is a “comet” coming that is going to be as bright as the moon this next year, so your prediction is no different than mine of snow in sweden. 🙂

        “For the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy” (Rev. 19:10)

        OOPS!, sorry, forgot you do not believe that Revelation is irrelevent.

        • FIrst Paul became Christian beacuse he was blind for a while. Not because Stephens death.

          I can give you som info about future.

          Soon the Pope will say that Jesus is in the Vatican and the citizens of Rome must leave the City. Many people will try to come into the city specially journalists but they will be stopped by the Italain army. The Italian army are preparing this evacuation right now. When The city is emptied Jesus will tell the whole world that he will hold the doom and that they will soon send plagues like fire and brimstone on earth. Then nations that will be attached will gather army troops to go and try till kill him but he will be protected againt them so everyone willl die.
          Jesus was living with us in sweden but is living in the Vatican now. He told us this. And he only accepts Ortodox and Catholic Church as Christians and he doesn´t want anyone to change side. So once protestant always a protestant. Jesus also told us that Matt 7:21-23 is you people.
          No Catholic will kill you. Your own nuclear weapon will kill you.
          We are not allowed to kill and Jesus will tell us this when he holds his first speach. Muslims will be hated all over the world but we are not allowed to kill them.

          I know a lot about future bacuse Jesus has told us a lot and much of what he said has been fullfilled.

      • Hi Adam,

        Above you challenge for someone to name you one Protestant that has provided prophecy.
        Well, if you define a Protestant as someone that doesn’t belong to, or isn’t a member of the Orthodox Catholic Church I can name you a few right here and now.

        How about the Apostles and Disciples John, Matthew, Mark, Paul, Luke and Jude etc. etc. (I didn’t include that of Peter, for you would simply misconstrue my intention here), but none of these where Catholic. Are these mighty warriors for the truth going to spend eternity in that closed little room in heaven?
        I highly doubt that dude.
        And what of the hundreds of thousands that are spoken about in the Word that came to the Faith of Yeshua being the Messiah prior to the formation of this cult that you belong to? Are they going to be in that room also?
        How about Stephen and all of the other martyrs that died for their Faith in Him?

        If you actually have been “born again” and are indwelt by the Holt Spirit, if I were you, I would be more concerned about whether or not I have fallen into the category of those that will believe the lie. (2 Thessalonians 2:11.) Unfortunately, You are the one that is blind. You are deceived and are listening to a false messiah which could very well be the false prophet.
        One thing is for sure, by how Yeshua Himself and the angles said that He would return, this charlatan and imposter that you have been listening to is Not the Son of God.
        Time will tell. (Perhaps you should buy some marshmallows in bulk?)

        • accepted
          for us he is the messiah but probably protestants will not accept him because he will probably not accept you. when the pope says he is Jesus then the Catholics will listen and when the Syrianic Ortodox says he is Jesus then the Ortodox church will listen too. I don’t know times but I ‘m sure that his time will start in 2 years.

          • You didn’t answer my questions regarding any of the Apostles or the hundreds of thousands that accepted Yeshua as their Savior, and were filled with the Holy Spirit of promise, before the formation of your so called true church.

            The Word says that we live by Faith.
            You guys live by anything but, and obviously simply disregard, or misinterpret the Fathers Word, (especially you).

      • Adam,

        Since it appears that you have had the opportunity to sit down with this jesus guy in the vatican, next time do me a favor, ask him to tell you what my name is, and what day and year I was born? That should be very easy for him if he is who he claims to be.

        • not accepted
          first of all. it is the holy spirit in him that speaks when he says things about others. when he said your boyfriend is your 5 th guy and he is not your man it is not he who speaks it is the holy spirit and we shall never challange God and holy spirit. But he has speaking like this before. I can give you an ex. a girl asked him why do you want me, he anwsered because you have hebrew blood. she said how did you now that you cant nderstand that from my surename. he said I just know things. he said can I use your second name maris istead of your first name. I like it better. she said how you called someone and find out my second name. he said no I just now. then he said your church that you belong to is not Christian. you just call yourselfes christians. and she said what church do I belong to. he said 7 days adventist. and she said how can you know. he said I just know. the 7 days are just a couple of hundreds in sweden.

          this is one ex of him in this life.

          • sorry for my english. I write from my smartphone and I don’t like to write from it. I saw after I posted it. it was full of errors.

          • Adam, Adam, Adam…..

            When Yeshua the Lord came the 1st time, then hearing, or understanding through the Holy Spirit may have very well been the case, (as you utilize the knowledge that He had regarding the woman by the well in Samaria within your post response). However, He has Risen in all Power and Glory now and sits on the Throne to the right of the Father. He possesses All Knowledge and Wisdom, and has been given Authority to Judge the hearts and minds of men.
            He most certainly knows my name, when I was born, and absolutely everything about me period.

            Within Scripture, (which is God Breathed and pure), there are warnings regarding false Messiahs, (Christ’s) and you and others are being deceived by one and his simple parlour tricks. If this guy didn’t return in the clouds where every eye could see him, then he is not the Son of God the Father.

            Don’t forget, satan knows quite a lot about everyone here on Earth as well, and he has been a liar from the very beginning too.

            But don’t just believe me, and what I may have to say, but ask the Sovereign God Himself.
            Reach out to Him with a humble and contrite heart for He is full of Compassion and Mercy. Ask Him if what you believe is true. If this guy that you think is the Messiah is really His Son or an imposter. Then wait for an answer in Faith.

            Dear God O Holy and Almighty King, I pray that you open the eye’s of those that have and are being deceived by Your adversary of darkness. I pray that you lift the veil of deception that has covered their eyes and hearts and replace it with the Brightness of your Sovereign Magnificence. I ask that You please do this Heavenly Father for Your Honor and Glory LORD, and for the Honor and Glory of Your Beloved Son Yeshua our KING. I pray this in the Name of Yeshua, Amen.

            Now Adam, the Father heard that prayer, but He will not force Himself upon anyone unless it is His Will to do so. You and others must sincerely Seek His Face for discernment regarding this. I repeat….. “Who you believe is the Lord, is NOT the Lord!”

            Seek and ye shall find.
            Knock and it shall be opened to you.

            • Not accepted
              first of all when the son of man will return from heaven is later. rev 12 vers 1 – halv 5 is fullfilled. this is Jesus next birth which occured for 40 years ago. he will hold the doom from the vatican and after that he will be with his father on the planet nibiru and then come back from heaven and land on the olive mountain in Jerusalem and then we have esekiel 38 and 39 and psalm 83 etc.

  24. Marianne
    It had been better if your family had stayed Jewish. Then you would have the right to be reborn on earth again. When your family accepted Jesus as Gods son and Messiah then they should have turned to Jesus Church and not the apstate Church. You are baptised and that means you have rigt to eternal life but this life is in a empty room in heaven. Jews, Ortodox Christians and Catholic Church has the right to be reborn on earth/paradise again. You will talk about how nice it was on earth and we will live on earth forever.
    I want to finish this and say I don´t like war and violence and killing.

    • adam

      I do not like war, violence, and killing either.

    • Adam,

      Could you tell me something?
      If this guy, (that you say is living in the vatican now), is Yeshua, (Jesus) and the same guy that you used to have a picture of his back as your gravatar logo, how come, (being the Son of God), he had to have a mere human tattoo his back for him? Wouldn’t he, being the foundation of all creation be able to do that all on his own?

      Explain that one to me.

      • accepted
        He is not foundation of all creation. His father is. Hi is just his son.His tatoo shows that he is a warrior this time.

        • Okay Adam, this is how and why people become deceived regarding God. They, (you) will hear something and believe it simply because they, (you), don’t have a baseline of Biblical understanding to compare what they heard to the Word of God.

          Was Jesus the Creator of all things?
          The answer is a resounding “Yes”!

          From the Gospel of John, New International Version which should be easier for you to read and understand, Chapter 1:1 through 3.

          1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (Here the Apostle John is explaining that the “Word” is “Jesus”.)
          2 He was with God in the beginning. (John says, that Jesus was with God, a part of God from the very beginning.)
          3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. (John says, that through Jesus all things were made, everything.)

          So again, being the Creator of everything, why would he need a mere human to put a tattoo on him?

          Above I also said that “We live by Faith”.
          This for one, should have taken you to Paul’s epistle, Romans 1:17., where he says,
          ”For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”

          So Who lives by Faith? And What do they have Faith in?
          Verse i:16., (the verse that directly proceeds the above verse) says,
          ”I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile.”

          So, Those that live by Faith, believe the Gospel, (Good News) of Jesus Christ and that He was their blood sin offering for Salvation, and that this Salvation belongs to “EVERYONE” who believes! NOT some backwater church that happens to believe that they are something special, but for each and every individual person on the face of the Earth that hears, believes and lives by Faith.

          Again this is clearly stated in the Scriptures within John 3:16-18.;
          “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
          For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
          Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.”
          It doesn’t matter to God the Holy Father as to what church you may or may not go to, for He through His Son Jesus, judges the “hearts and minds” of those that say that they follow Him.

          Any way’s, it is the naive and gullible people that don’t bother to read and understand Gods Word that become easily deceived, and believe the lie.
          This is why Paul expressed to Timothy the merits of studying the Scriptures;

          2 Timothy 2:15. NIV.
          ”Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a workman who does not need to be ashamed and who correctly handles the word of truth.”

          And 2 Timothy 3:10-17. NIV.
          ”You, however, know all about my teaching, my way of life, my purpose, faith, patience, love, endurance, persecutions, sufferings–what kinds of things happened to me in Antioch, Iconium and Lystra, the persecutions I endured. Yet the Lord rescued me from all of them.
          In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil men and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived.

          But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it, and how from infancy you have known the holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
          Stop being simply a “leaf in the wind” and receive some understanding by reading the Word of God, or unfortunately you may be the one that perishes.

          Wishing that you take the above to heart.

          • Not accepted
            yes Jesus was with God in the beginning because Jesus is archangel Micheal and Jesus is also the firt man Adam. So Jesus speaks Gods words.
            The pope leo x told us that you are not Christians and I asked Jesus who is in the Vatican now if it is true and he said yes but his father have the final word and his father will contact him when his time starts. Im giving you short answers because im writing from my tablet pc. Don’t like to write from this but my son has the computer.

            • You are one LOOPY dude there Adam.
              Yeshua is NOT the archangel Michael!
              I could quote numerous verses out of Scripture for you to express to you that is wrong, but you simply believe what some guy in a pointy hat has to say, rather than listen to what God the Father says within His Word.

              As I said to you before I think that you should consider buying some marshmallows in bulk. Hope that you like them extra crispy. 🙂

              I will listen to what God the Father has to say and will live by Faith as best as I can in Yeshua HaMashiach the KING of kings and LORD of all Creation, the Savior of the world. You can choose to listen to some dude that has a crappy tattoo on his back.
              Praise be unto Yeshua the Holy Aleph and the Tav.

              I’ll be the first guy in what will be a long line, denouncing whatever demonic pin head it is that you follow.

  25. Marianne you said – also nation rising against nation occurred long after 70 AD and we have false christs still showing up…..

    Yes of course we do. Medieval defined – unenlightened , relating to evil characteristics -having a quality (as cruelty) associated with the Middle Ages – agonistic

    0. The World is cursed by Cains Character. All they know is war and killing. And the religion of the anti-christ Jews who were Cains children as well. If you reject Peace, and Joy of knowing God’s Love. All that is left is WAR.
    1. The N.T anti-christ spirit was manufactured in the N.T “Dark Ages”. That started with the Israelite church system of Temple worship. The High Priest and Temple became Idol worship of man. That is why God destroyed it. And Don’t need another one in this day.
    2. The O.T ages manufactured the same thing – until Christ and His word could not be recognized. The World was in darkness. Just like today’s world. Look at Laodicea today – they think they know it all. But Jesus says they are blind, wretched and naked.
    3. This is the meaning of – SUN is Dark and Moon is blood – unbelief reigns in the World and Church. Gross darkness has taken over world and natural church. That’s what God is called in the Bible in Rev.12 and Mal. 4:2 The Sun of Israel – Is God the True light – The moon is a reflection of the Sun. When there is no “Light in the World” all that is left is darkness and “Blood and War”. We that are Spiritual see the Darkness of the “SUN” today as the moon and earth full of blood. 77 million people killed in war since 1975 to year 2000. Is this tribulation or not. Lets Open up our Spiritual eyes and see how dark it is today. Mal. 4:2 God is called the SUN of righteousness with Healing in His wings. But mankind prefers to kill, and hate God, without natural affection just like Cain, But they love to kill, and murder, and rape, and kill the influence of Gods light that shines upon His people. But like Cain do not seek Healing or being under Gods wings.

    1. Cain and Abel were twins of the same family. So is the Wheat and Tares in the same church. Till the wheat gets their “Revelation” and gets raptures out of “Cain‘s” false ways. Cain means “Possession and Fabricator“. He was religious and God talked to him. But he had no Revelation of truth. HE DID NOT CARE ENOUGH TO SEEK ONE.
    2. The N.T Dark Ages produced Papal Rome the great “fabricator who Claimed Possession “ of the original truth. Yet they were not Jews they were liars and still are.
    3. We who are wheat will not be able to live in ‘Cain‘s“ attitude or character of religion. 4. We will be called the heretics of our day. Be we know who the real heretics are.
    5. This is why the 7 Seals had to be opened at the end of the Laodicea age. John is a type of the bride that got lifted up, caught up, out of the superstitions, and false doctrines of all the Nicolatian, Balaam teachings, Jezebels dead churchs,
    6. Rev. 2:13 Plainly states that “ Satan got His seat of authority” in this dark age. And that Satan dwelled among them. His seat today is called the “eternal city”. The Sanhedrin turned into Catholicism and pagan worship of Man, and manmade things, temples, shrines, mixed with word. And the people loved to have it so. Pagan’s always have to SEE THEIR GOD are they will not believe. The Pope was a “chu in” to REPLACE the Emperors and false gods of Imperial Rome. He is behind most major wars that have ever been fought. History and Today bears that to be TRUE – When the Pope Speaks the World listens.
    7. Look at Europe – Every nation was rising against ,nation in Europe through most of the dark ages. Along with Islam. Islam’s false doctrines will not deceive a Christian. But the so called Universal Christian church will deceive millions and millions of Christians by their fall Prophet the Pope.
    And they done their work well. It is still deceiving millions of Christians today by the multitudes. I would make a list of their false doctrines, but I doubt the people would want to hear them. History and truth just does not interest them. Most will not even listen to facts. They will say I don’t care. That is not truth. I got to see it to believe it. Shame on us in this age for piercing Christ again the 2nd. Time.

    Love you in Christ ——————————————–ty

    • i think the sun turning dark and the moon turning red is more than symbolic. I believe it is literal. Jesus said there would be signs in the heavens before his return. and also, if the sun and moon darkening is only symbolic, then so is the martyrdom of the saints in seal 5

      • most certainly occur in the future

        • What the heck is that?
          What I wrote above was this.

          Hi Marianne,

          I agree that much of what is written is more than symbolic also, and should be taken in the literal sense.
          Though this has been proposed by many in the past already, when you read say Revelation 6:12-17., and attempt to understand as to what it must have been like for John to see all of what he saw, and to try to put into words things that were simply beyond his imagination, verse 13 could easily be him explaining nuclear missiles which would easily cause the earth to quake, move every mountain and island out of their place, and make it appear that heaven has rolled up like a scroll, which would then darken the sun and the moon.

          None of this has happened yet, but will most certainly occur in the future as God the Father has said.

          Be blessed in Yeshua our Most Holy King.

      • Out of curiosity…if this is happening here on Earth, what will become of the worlds inhabited by aliens?

  26. Tom to Marianne: you said
    If revelation has been fulfilled 2000 years ago, we would be in the post millenium period, with satan and his demons gone forever. I do not see that.

    Answer –
    1. You mistake my words. Its took 2000 years for the ages to end. We are passing through the end of the 7th. Age NOW. It took over 2,058 years from Abraham to Christ. It’s the same in the N.T – its been over 2,000 years and Christ has came as a “thief in the night” Rev. and the church has missed it but not the Bride. She is a “chosen generation” and Already have became ONE IN HIM. The Marriage is Over. Im eating the Flesh and drinking the blood of Christ NOW. Yes that is Spiritual. But they could not handle that in Jesus day either amen.

    Isaiah – says plainly – they will be having babies in the Millennium, Their will still be sinners upon the planet. Men will grow “old and a infant” will fulfill their days or purpose.
    1. Jesus said Come unto me and I will give you REST, Peace , joy, prosperity, and nothing by any means shall hurt you. Even death has been conquered as well.


    REV. 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.

    REV. 10:1 And I saw another mighty angel COME DOWN from heaven, clothed with a CLOUD: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the SUN, and his feet as pillars of fire:

    REV. 10:2 And he had in his hand a LITTLE BOOK OPEN: and he set his RIGHT FOOT upon the sea, and his LEFT FOOT on the EARTH,
    = sure sounds like the coming of Christ here =ty

    REV.10:8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth.
    9. And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
    10. And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.

    Sure sounds like a Prophet to me. Read chapter Eze.2 and 3 You will find the same scriptures. But I know most of you today do not believe in Prophets even. —ty

    REV. 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD ARE BECOME THE KINGDOMS OF OUR LORD, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
    Sounds like the end of the Worldly kingdoms to me.— ty

    REV. 16:15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

    Who is walking naked. Laodicea that’s who.
    Who came as a “thief in the night” – Jesus Christ letting the prophet of Mal.4 preach Christ return to this age. With a vindicated Message. Christ is here NOW can‘t you see HIM yet. How long will you be slow in heart believing all that the prophets wrote of me – Jesus told his disciples. —ty

    REV 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

    Becoming a Christian is a Armageddon fight for peace, and rest, just like Israel had to. To enter their Promised land of Milk and honey. It was a fight to the finish to death= Jordan means death. We all got to cross it. Ask Moses – Yet he was alive to talk to Jesus. Praise God was it worth it Moses – He would say AMEN dear brothers keep fighting the good fight of faith. Moses would say to us — pray for a revelation now at the fire of Gods feet.-ty

    REV 16:17- ¶ And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

    It is done – its over – I have returned – you have been set free from this Armageddon. Because you have already passed from DEATH into LIFE.
    How long has Armageddon been going on. Well about 6,000 years now. Mankind is very close to becoming history. That is Cains seed — sons of perdition –

    ——————————In Christ’s love ————————————-ty

  27. Marianne – did you ever look at Iraq when the oil wells were burning. Darkness all over Middle east. The Sun went dark when the Pope visited Israel in 1964. Great earthquakes, Thousands die bout everyday in fighting across the world. Nations are angry, most the world at war with some other nation. The church sitting on a ice pack – full of traditions of man, believe more like Catholics every day. Even TBN has taken a big big shift to Catholicism. Watched them bow down and kiss the finger of a pope. Confusion, and insanity, at a all time high. Whats it gonna take.

    Yet the Bride has the Oil and the Wine in her. She is not in darkness as Paul says. She is spiritual not like the Whore of Rev. 18 who claims a husband but has none. Carnal as can be. The Jews always condeming Jesus and asking to show them a sign. Blind leading the Blind. They both fall in the ditch. so be it. Im not buying in to that Mark. I got a fortress and a Palisade im resting and believing in. Remember Palisade is the root word for the “Mark” of the beast.

    ————–in Christ Love —————————-ty – done for this day.

    • tom

      my impression of the messianic kingdom is much better than what I see today. the lion lays down with the lamb…etc…no war….no wicked…etc….so to me, it has not happened yet.

      there is a difference between an isolated darkening of the sky and sun.


      the sun turns dark, the moon turns blood red, and the sky rolls back like a scroll, all at the same time there is a global earthquake…maybe a 15.0 or greater….

      that has not happened yet

      • My system is not reading the posts very well, everything is in one line., so I’ll just post here.
        I wanted to share this link inline with Jes’ comment, Petrus Romanus & anything catholic. This link below is from steve quayle’s site. It was posted not too long ago. This is astonishing information. There are many articles for you to read regarding the plan of the catholics for, popes, aliens, Jesus, the world, etc…the articles are in the archives. If you just type in “vatican” in the search text box, you can access all the articles..peace be with you!

        EXO-VATICANA – Part 1 – Raiders News Update http://www.raidersne vaticana1. … Dec 30, 2012 – Petrus Romanus, PROJECT LUCIFER, and the Vatican’s astonishing … You only think you know what’s coming… … 2012 best-seller Petrus Romanus: The Final Pope Is Here, we were ..

        • The link is not working. Try this..

          EXO-VATICANA – Part 1 ana1. … Dec 30, 2012 – Petrus Romanus, PROJECT LUCIFER, and the Vatican’s … You only think you know what’s coming… … Project LUCIFER, Petrus Romanus, and the Vatican’s astonishing … exo-theological plan for the arriva !!

          • that is a movie…although it looks like based on some facts

            • If you read the articles you will know how much is real..too much to go into. In regards to Project Lucifer: Lucifer,is the name given to the largest infrared telescope in the world funded by the Vatican. Go to, scroll down & on left you will see “Archives” click.. go to search box, type: in “vatican” in the “link” box (if I remember correctly) it will take you to numerous articles regarding this topic posted by steve quayle. There are other posts about catholic agendas as well. Today, postings on the use of RFID chips on certain catholics but I have not read that yet..

        • Thanks Elle, I have subscription to ‘raiders’ and get their updates regularly. I also got the book just for curiosity sake and though I don’t agree with everything it says, but there are some parts that are very interesting.

          • Yes, I agree but there is enough written about certain things by others that makes one wonder.. 🙂

            • Hi Elle, Yep, I agree ’cause I read not only that which is written by Jews & Christians but even the secular. For example there is David Icke he’s more into some spiritual dimensional things – but – leaving that aside, he does come out with some very interesting info which I take with a grain of salt like with info of others. These days I don’t just dismiss anything but I read & dig to find out more. OK, here’s something I want to share with you.
              1)All are focused on Islam, 2)Perhaps only half the world knows about the Vatican agenda, 3)How many know about this?? Have you ever heard about the “Noahide Laws” – (man-made of course) – This is even more shocking … – do a google search for more on ‘torat hamelech’.
              The Only One who can protect us is Yahshua HaMelech (Jesus our King). May He come soon… Amein.
              Be Blessed

  28. Hi Marianne,

    My name is Caasi Algazi. I was raised a Christian, and found out I was a Jew nearly 9 years ago. I too have had several revelations in my dreams…though not so many lately. I will tell you this, I feel in my heart and in my soul, that there is to be a WORLDWIDE Exodus very soon, and Jews from all lands will make the journey home to Israel maybe on their own accord, or perhaps by force. Perhaps your dreams are eluding to this. I would like to tell you about some of my dreams sometime, to see if we share similar ones. I don’t know how I found this site, but I created a twitter account because I stumbled upon you. Now I can’t seem to remember my password 🙂 but good thing your posts come to my email anyway. May God Bless You and Keep You
    Baruk ata Adonai Elohenu
    Baruk ata Yeshua Hamashiach

    • dear Caasi

      I think the Jews will leave when they see America fall.

    • Hi Caasi, It’s a joy to see when a lost Hebrew finds his roots and particularly his way home to Yahshua Messiah. You are blessed.
      Just sharing:
      …. Deut.30.4 ‘Even if you are dispersed in the uttermost parts of the world, from there YAHWEH your Elohim will gather and fetch you. YAHWEH your Elohim will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed and you shall possess it.’
      …. “Then YAHWEH, your Elohim, will bring back your captivity and have mercy upon you, and He will gather you in from all the peoples to which YAHWEH, your Elohim, has scattered you. If your dispersed will be at the ends of heaven, from there YAHWEH, your Elohim, will gather you in, and from there He will take you. YAHWEH, your Elohim, will bring you to the Land that your forefathers possessed, and you shall possess it; He will do Good to you and make you more numerous than your forefathers.” (Deut. 30:3-5)
      ….. Jeremiah 23:3-6 “I myself will gather the remnant of my flock out of all the countries where I have driven them and will bring them back to their pasture, where they will be fruitful and increase in number. I will place shepherds over them who will tend them, and they will no longer be afraid or terrified, nor will any be missing,” declares YAHWEH. “The days are coming,” declares YAHWEH, “when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch, a King who will reign wisely and do what is just and right in the land. In his days Judah will be saved and Israel will live in safety. This is the name by which HE will be called: YAHWEH Our Righteousness.”

      Shabbat Shalom & to you too Marianne

  29. Thank you so much for that, I so need this right now. I remember the day I found out I was Jewish and I had tears of joy that the Lord knew me at birth, before my birth and knew that I would discover this in my adulthood. He saved me, prepared me, armed me with the truth of my salvation in Yeshua, and then brought me into the light of my heritage so that I might be prepared for a calling to the Jews. I have deviated from my path, and I do many good works in my professional life, yet the works of the Lord are not in this place. I need to find my way back to his path for me and I ask that whomsoever reads this post will lift my name unto the Lord and ask Him that I be redirected to the path that He has chosen for me, because I feel stuck where I am and I no longer know how to get there. You all are strong in faith I can feel it. Please pray for me….

    • dear Caasi

      There are many Jewish believers on this site. Once you are called, the need to “find your way home” occurs. You now feel complete, and will not be happy until how you feel matches where you are. This is the Ruach calling you home. we are no longer part of this world. We belong elsewhere.

      I was laid off in 2006, and could not find another job, even though I was supposed to be the top candidate in many openings. Then the Lord had me start this site. I realized my true calling was this, not science, which I was in. Messiah has been providing for me ever since, as I am 100% dedicated to Him each day.

      In a few years, the website has grown to over 5 million. I am blessed. Soon, there will be a trumpet that all who are in faith will hear, and we will all go home. But until then, we are to work in His vineyard and produce fruit. Many will be called to Israel to help there. Some will remain behind to minister to others. But we will all be busy, and Yeshua will get the glory.

    • Shalom Caasi,
      I’m so glad for you and your response brought tears to my eyes. I’m putting you on my daily morning prayer list so you are included permanently.

      Here’s a very good website (Jewish believers in Yahshua). – Mark Biltz is a great Pastor/Teacher. Their Shabbat services on Saturday starts @ 10am Pacific Time USA – check out what will be your time and you can watch this service Live online. There’s a coffee break in between for about 20 minutes – so don’t go away – for they continue after that. If you have small kids keep them ready for the blessing.
      If you miss the Live service, don’t worry, you can watch again later. Also check out all Pastor Mark’s previous teaching. He is really good .. believe me!!!!!
      Be Blessed

      • Thank you Jes! Do you by chance know of any amazing messianic temples in Southern California? I have found a few, but didn’t feel as if they were a home to me…I live in Riverside and I feel a great need to surround myself with other believers right now especially.


        • Shalom Caasi, you are welcome! I can find out for you about a good “Torah Believers Congregation” and let you know. Right now for me El Shaddai is the best so far. Frankly, the word ‘Messianic’ makes me uncomfortable – Beware!! like some Christian Ministries, the Messianic movement can be the most dangerous. Pray, & ask for Wisdom, Knowledge, Understanding, Intelligence & DISCERNMENT (Proverbs 2:) Just a little sincere advice.
          YAHWEH has blessed me immensely since following TORAH strictly, studying and researching. I can provide some really good Torah study websites & blogs so that you can grown in Abba (Father) well as learn some Hebrew. I’ll be back on this later.

          Meantime, I’ve read your response to Tom, He is right, and here are links to the prophets of hell … again Beware! be watchful for satan is a roaring lion waiting to devour especially the vulnerable. Look minutely for the signs of their hands, everything they do, they do with signs, then you know who they are as well as how they speak.

          Prophets of hell perverting the Word of Yahweh:
          All this ga-ga about ‘mother Theresa’ doing good works and being treated a saint. What work was she really doing? What was she teaching ?

          Robert Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral, the late Norman Vincent Peale author of “The Power Of Positive Thinking” and other books, was a Freemason. …… – See more links below – some work some don’t that’s because the website ‘geocities’ closed down just a few years ago. They had tons of info.
          Billy Graham:
          Pat Robertson a freemason – Look at his fingers when he is praying – He is actually praying to satan.

  30. Caasi,

    You just learned that you got the family line back to Abraham, excellent! I wish that I knew what you now know.

    Father God is with you, right now. Put your name in Psalm 23. It belongs to you!

    “Adonai is my shepherd; I lack nothing.

    He has me lie down in grassy pastures, He leads me by quiet water, He restores my inner person.

    He guides me in right paths for the sake of His own name.”

     (Psalm 23:1-3, The Complete Jewish Bible Translation).

    I’m praying this prayer written by a Hebrew who became a Believer in the Lord as His Messiah. 

    Paul’ Prayer and it is for you.

    “Father God, in the name of Jesus, I ask that Caasi may be filled with the knowledge of Your will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding. 

    I ask that Caasi may walk worthy of my Lord and Savior, fully pleasing Him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge Father God.

    Father, strengthen Caasi with all might, according to His glorious power, for all patience and longsuffering with joy. 

    I give thanks to You, Father God, because You qualified Caasi to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in the light.

    Jesus, you have delivered us from the power of darkness and given unto those who Believe the kingdom of Your love. In You Jesus, we have redemption through Your blood, the forgiveness of all my sins.”

    Father God, thank you for hearing and answering this prayer that comes from Your word as written by Paul. In Jesus name I pray, Amen. (Colossians 1:9-14, NKJV). is a great resource to learn the traditions and culture.

    • Thank you, I am in tears right now….you know I prayed a prayer a long long time ago, when I first was brought into the light about my heritage. I asked the Lord, “please make it easy for me to learn hebrew.” Sounds silly and simple right? But I believe the Lord loves these small requests of simple prayers. So I journeyed to Israel in 2005, and I tell you the truth, Every Hebrew word I learned over there is still with me. I don’t know how to read it, I don’t know how to write it, but I know how to speak a few words. I only heard them once, and I guess when something is so overwhelmingly important to you, you cannot forget them. So lately, I have been remembering that prayer and realizing that even though I prayed that, I have done little to try and learn hebrew and this really, really bothers me. So I want to thank you for the web link and I will definately be checking this out today!!

      God bless and thank you so much for your prayers for me!

  31. Tom to Marianne – You said -Also in Matt 24, we know things are “over” and he has “returned” when we see THE SUN TURN DARK and the MOON TURN RED. this matches the 6th seal in revelation. this has not happened yet.

    Peter’s 1st. Gospel message was from Joel
    JOEL 2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:
    JOEL 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

    ANSWER – why did Israel not see all this in 1st. Coming. Joel is about 1st.coming as well.
    Because the meaning was spiritual then and it is now. Peter seen it with the 120. Jesus came in 1st.coming – As a thief in the night – same in the 2nd. Coming -thief in the night.

    ———————————–The SUN DARKENED —————————————-
    MATT. 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the SUN be DARKENED , and the MOON shall not give HER LIGHT , and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

    Matt. 24:29 – 4654 darkened – darken — of heavenly bodies as deprived of light; metaph. of the eyes, viz. of the understanding: of the mind –
    4655- of darkened eyesight or blindness – metaph. of ignorance respecting divine things and human duties, and the accompanying ungodliness and immorality, together with their consequent misery; persons in whom darkness becomes visible and holds sway=lost
    4639-an “IMAGE” cast by an object and representing the form of that object

    Whole world in anti-christ but for a tiny remnant that are still enlightened with Gods understanding, and mind has not took the Mark of the Beast. —ty

    ———————————-THE MOON DARKENED and RED —————————-
    The MOON – light: of the moon, of a candle or lamp; the bright sunshine, the beam of light — Read Rev. 18:23 “HER” — IS A CHURCH SYSTEM WITH NO LIGHT –
    Moon became blood – 129 blood = blood shed, to be shed by violence, slay, murder
    Read Rev. 12 – who is the moon and who is the sun – Symbolic of Christ and the Church.
    RED – Red comes from the word Purify – PUR – By FIRE — Judgment or Salvation comes this way. The great purging of the church and world. The great shaking.
    The Great RED FIERY SERPENT- is what it means for the “ red dragon” as well.
    Satan is the God of HIS worldly bride – Jesus is the God of HIS purified Bride.

    ———————————————In Christ love —————————–ty

    • tom

      I see Paul as speaking prophetically, and not announcing that prophecy had been fulfilled .

      • Hi Caasi, Halleluiah! You have received the most precious gift of all, the love of Jesus & eternal life.. Blessed be the Lord, He gets all the glory! My prayers are with you as all here who are supporting you.
        Adam, this is for you, if you read this..Jes is right in his scriptures & boldness to tell you what truth is. I pray you have the ears to hear & the eyes to see. I pray for you to seek the real Jesus & repent. He is waiting for you, He loves you… I pray for all those who have led you to the lands of darkness that they come to the light.
        Jes, thanks for the link above. I also decided to get more info on” Pope. I found an article, “The Most Powerful Man in the World?” It is an interview with the author of the book, “Vatican Assasins”, by Eric Phelps. Although the interview took place in 2000, it is the history that is greatly significant. It is a lengthy read but well worth it. It spans 5 decades of the leaders of this world & their pawns. It explains factual may not agree with every word but the majority of the content is undeniable. It also gives links to the Rothschild & Roosevelt dynasties, with darkest of dark power & controls, a real eye opener. It also explains the Club 300. I ask all who want to know who & what the Jesuits & Lucifarians are, to read this. The “Black” Pope is a Jesuit pawn of the
        first order…. The Holy Spirit led me to these scriptures as I was posting this: Matt.10:16-17, (red letter, NKJ) Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves. Therefore be wise as serpents & harmless as doves. 17, But beware of men, for they will deliver you up to councils & scourge you in their synagogues.
        Matt.10:26, Therefore do not fear them, for there is nothing covered that will not be revealed &
        hidden that will not be known…blessings & peace to all…

        • Oh darn, my new cell is not working well with typing comments. It bounces around & I find words disappear or get uninvited spaces.. so my apologies that I have to come back and correct… 😦
          Correction: In my comment to Jes, above, in regards to getting more info, it was to say, on the “Black” Pope… 🙂

          • Actually, the book, “Vatican Assassins” goes back centuries describing the world’s quest for power, money & control. Kings & Queens, Presidents & religious leaders were & still are pawns to this day. I often wonder how much longer can these evil factions exist among one another. And, what do they win?? A world with dangerous air pollutants, contaminated earth & seas, billions of dead, diseased people…it boggles my mind!!…but the Lord says, be still and I won’t be moved…The Lord is here with us always if we invite Him in our presence. He will show Himself soon…blessings & peace…

            • blessings and peace to you also

            • Hi Elle, also check this out …. “The Secret History of the Jesuits by Edmund Paris”. You can download it free .. do a google search.
              I’ve done a lot of study on the savagery of these ‘satan’s seedline’ the inquisitions they carried out in the Middle East and around the world, my own ancestors were murdered in their mass genocides 500 years ago. They had escaped from the Spanish Inquisition. The inquisition in my homeland was the longest 350 years until the British too over and abolished it. Some of the Jews had escaped to Mexico. In later years they were caught and tortured. These were not ordinary people but doctors and other professionals. But Abba is good, He does not forsake his own but leads them into His Holy Light and to His Word which was deliberately taken away from us by these savages.

              • Hi Jes,
                Yes, I am familiar with the seed lines or bloodlines of the Jesuits for the most part. Powerful “pawn” people were related to powerful “pawn” people everywhere & for centuries or at least decades. Many people do not know that the Bush family was related to Bin Laden & they were business partners. That is why we could never get him during the Bush administration. It is just one example of how we can be fooled. The Jesuits have had failures, been kicked out of countries, etc. but somehow they have managed to maintain their grip & a powerful threat to the U.S & the world. I think people are becoming more aware, but catholics are still in denial. It is so tragic that so many have died at the hands of these diabolical people. I am sorry for you & your ancestors. My ancestors were direct desendants of the Dutch Queen. They were among the first land grant owners who settled Long Island, New York, where I was born. They arrived here in the early 1600’s. They set up plantations, Dutch Reform churches, schools, government, etc. They actually lived peacefully with the American Natives for along time. Eventually, there were wars but not massacres. The
                Dutch did have issues of power, etc. of course, they were under the Queen & she was ruled by the early Jesuits. To this day she gives confession to a Jesuit priest. My other ancestors were English aristocrats, settled in Virginia. One was a signer of the Constitution. I have no direct knowledge of anyone being a Freemason, but I wonder if they could they have escaped it, most successful men were but not all….most of my ancestors & relatives to this day are lawyers, doctors, professors, businessmen, etc. I know of none that were the Freemason type..,
                Marianne’s dream to me is a sign that we are in the throws of darkness, evil powers of great proportion are to come upon us soon. I feel the angel of death appeared as a sign of these things. History always repeats itself, the greedy need more & there is more greed than ever & more lethal tools to destroy.. we need to pray & know that our faithful Father is in control. It isn’t finished, until He finishes it! Blessings & love to all 🙂

  32. marianna – Paul did not write Rev. Joel, Matt, or Daniel- I just used the scriptures you posted. Helloo out there. Proved it by your scripture you gave.

    come on sister. If you cannot except the FACTS – what else is left for you but confusion. I rest my case —–

    ———————————-In Christs love ————ty ——————————–

    • Joel 2 verses you gave have not been fulfilled yet.

    • Tom,

      You profess to have an understanding of God the Father’s Word in Scripture, interpreting and defining particular words and verses to support that of which you believe.
      Yet when you blatantly make a mistake in respects to the English language that you speak everyday, it certainly doesn’t add any credence to what you may write.

      I believe the correct way to express what you are saying to Marianne would have been, “If you can not “accept” facts, rather than the word “except”.
      If you can so easily get those two mixed up, is it any wonder that you could also mix up the meaning of a Greek word as well.
      Perhaps this explains much of your theology.
      I rest my case too.

      ….. A.

  33. Arizona,

    I lived in Az for 35 yrs. The Lord has me in Iowa now for a reason/purpose. He has you where you are, preparing you for His work/purpose ~ if you accept His: Mission Possible.

    You live in Phx? Chandler?

    Wildcat? Or, Scum Devil?

    By the end of Passover 2013, we will all know more, interprate and speculate less.

    China owns US, Putin hates US, and Islam want da great Satan destroyed. 

    “He” who rides the white, red, black and pale (Islamic green) horses ~ “he” is using US with the power of his office/authority.

    God has had it with US and He will let go His righteous judgment “in one hour”.  He gave a word of knowledge to someone that does not read this blog. He’s judgment upon US will have His signature on it; people around the world will witness and either “seek Him” or remain in darkness.

    In my opinion, US are (became) the woman and the 7 mountains are the 7 deadly sins (Proverbs 6:16-19), which did and do harm the the holy apostles and prophets (Ephesians 4:11-16). The US church has much in common with Ezek 34.

    Here is what is before US: 

     “And I heard another voice from heaven saying, ‘Come out of her, my people, lest you share in her sins, and lest you receive of her plagues. For her sins have reached to heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities. Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her. In the measure that she glorified herself and lived luxuriously, in the same measure give her torment and sorrow; for she says in her heart, ‘I sit as queen, and am no widow, and will not see sorrow.’ Therefore her plagues will come in one day—death and mourning and famine. And she will be utterly burned with fire, for strong is the Lord God who judges her” (Rev 18).

    This is why the Lord put this prayer in front if my nose last week, words I have spoken before and seen His mighty power accomplish, thank you Lord.

    It is time to prepare our home (Isaiah 26:20) and like wise virgins must ~ “establish our hearts”(James 5:7-11). He is at the door as Judge.

    Those AZ Wildcats better shape up and finish the basketball season strong, before March Madness comes.

    Psalm 25

  34. These things will come to pass.

    1. As they try to take away citizens guns it will cause civil unrest (possibly civil war but unlikely). This is will allow Obama to install Martial Law and then use troops to round up those not in compliance. Many will be arrested.
    2. There will be riots, many killed. Many Blacks will die because of their stance behind Obama. Then they will send all “undesirables” and non-conformists to internment camps. This will include most of the poor (minus most Roman Catholic Latinos & Hispanics – Someone has to cut the grass & pick the produce!
    3. Wealthy and educated non-conformists will likely be assassinated.
    4. People like Ron Paul, and his constituents, key Tea Party members, and others – who refuse to accept anything less than that which adheres strictly to the Constitution – will also be arrested and sent to camps or, assassinated.
    5. Many Evangelical and Conservative Christian groups (non-members of The World Council of Churches) will be designated as cults/terrorists, and their leaders arrested. Members of many “Holiness-Oneness” Pentecostal/Apostolic groups, non-denominational churches (including “Branhamites”), as well as many Anabaptist groups like the Amish, Mennonite, Hutterite, and Old Order groups will also be arrested.
    Their churches will be closed, boarded-up, or bulldozed to the ground.
    Many of their children will be taken away and sent to “foster” homes or state facilities and will be indoctrinated into “normal” (Sodomite) society.
    6. Homeschooling by members of any of these groups will be outlawed.
    7. Many of the militia groups will likely side with the government…as many of them are connected to Racist/Hate groups that are, in-turn, connected to Masonic-Fraternal organizations, which are, in-turn, all under the umbrella of Jesuit-Roman Catholic groups like The Order of Alhambra, Knights of Columbus, Knights of Peter Claver, etc., etc… This would include most Black organizations such as the Nation Of Islam, New Black Panther Party, and others. From these (and their affiliated street/drug gangs) they’ll recruit most of their militants to search house-to-house, round-up dissidents, become informants, and police neighborhoods.

    NOTE: If you don’t believe these things will happen then you need to read/watch the book/film, ‘The Killing Fields’…and, study how Hitler, Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, and other dictators took control.

    History repeats itself. Try studying it…

    • I would agree that this is not only our immediate future, but it has already begun.

    • None of this will happen. None of it.

    • Dear TOM

      AMEN brother, The ARMENIAN GENOCIDE of 1915-20 where the OTTOMAN EMPIRE(caliphate) systematically exterminated 1.5 million ARMENIAN CHRISTIANS is the EVENT you all need to research. This was HITLERS blueprint for Eliminating European Jewry. Not many folks are familiar with Enver Pasha, The Young Turk’s (AKA ….Commitee of Union & Progress).

  35. Famous Freemasons
    Initial List of 33rd Degree Masons
    Albert Pike
    Karl Marx
    Vladimir Lenin
    Joseph Stalin
    King Hussein
    Yasser Arafat
    Saddam Hussein
    John Wilkes Booth
    Rev. Jesse Jackson
    Rev. Al Sharpton
    and many more

  36. Albert Pike (founder of the KKK) addressing the 23 Supreme Councils of the world on July 14, 1889:- “To you, Sovereign Grand Instructors General, we say this, that you may repeat it to the Brethren of the 32nd, 31st and 30th degrees: ‘the Masonic Religion should be, by all of us initiates of the high degrees, maintained in the purity of the “Luciferian Doctrine. . .”

  37. These 3 below are also on the list of Masonic Religion. Im sure you will recognize the names quickly — There are hundreds more. Of course you have to understand what the Masonic lodge was all about. It goes back into Luthers day as the Catholic church used the Masonic Lodge for their undercover spies of elites. This lodge was how they infiltrated into the so called enemies camp of Protestants. The Mother church is still angry at the Protestants move against them. It took 500 years and now they have infiltrated almost every Protestant church doctrine in the land. In 1961 they held the Vatican 1 and 2 meetings. Quit teaching in Latin and got much more friendly than they were in the past.

    The Charismatic movement was just what they was waiting for. TBN would love to have their Holy Pope come on their show. I have heard their talk. Wake up and start reading your Bible and a little History with it. And you will find out Im telling you the truth. I use to sit under Kenneth Hagin. Listen to many, many of his teachings along with many others. I thank God for having mercy upon me and rapturing me out of that Babylon mess of false doctrines and darkness. Thank you Jesus. Billy Graham had an audit with the Pope and that means you have to bow down to him and Kiss his ring. Just to get to talk to him. These 3 below were Mason’s as well and are on a long list with the Masonic Politicians. Beast and false Prophets just go together. Where does that leave TBN – and all denominations. I know that is way to strong for most all.

    Consider the High Priest of the Sanhedrin. Oh such great men. Even prophesied that somebody had to die for sins. Lets let it be this Jesus. Blinder than bats.

    Billy Graham
    James Graham
    Rev. Kenneth Hagin

    • Hello Tom, are you saying that Billy Graham is a false prophet? Just curious because I was raised in Harvest Church under Greg Laurie, and I have never heard Greg use this term concerning Billy Graham? Maybe I misread your post, but I am interested on finding more information about this if what you are saying is true?

      • Hi Caasi,

        Tom is a Preterist.
        He believes that the book of Revelation has already been fulfilled and that Yeshua, (Jesus) has already returned the second time with the giving of the Holy Spirit at Pentecost. I am also pretty sure that, (if I can remember correctly from or past conversations) that he doesn’t believe in a place that is called hell, or that we go to heaven immediately after we die if we are are born again and someone that believes and follows Messiah.

        In my opinion Tom takes Scripture that should be taken literally and instead makes its content spiritual and vice versa.
        Personally, I find much of what he has to say confusing.

        Be Blessed in Yeshua our Most Holy and Precious Savior.

  38. Hello Everyone, just another comment on this dream of Marianne’s because it has increased my faith and desire to follow this twitter feed. A friend of mine that I have not spoken too in 3 years, text me out of the blue, early last week. He told me he has been having disturbing dreams lately of apocolyptic nature. I sent the link of Marianne’s dream of the dark figure on a train, and lo and behold, he wrote me on facebook that he had this same exact dream just the night before. I haven’t heard from him since, so I’m thinking he is perhaps in deep deep thought on what it means that the body of Christ is experiencing the same visions and dreams, together as one. I just wanted to post this to increase anyone else’s faith that might doubt that the Lord indeed will communicate with us in our sleep. This is the time where we are entirely SPIRIT in our subconcious, with no distractions of the flesh, and a time where the Lord may reveal His heart to ours. God bless you all, and have a wonderful wonderful day!

    • Caasi

      thank you for sharing that. This is also a confirmation to me about my own dream, that someone else would have the same dream.

      As deeply serious as this is, physical preparation will seem like nothing unless we seek God. there is no way to prepare otherwise for this.

  39. Hey Caasi – dont believe everything you hear. Accepted was suppose to have been Raptured last May to some planet. He is a nut case. He even had his bags packed and everything. But it did not happen. He’s still here and always wants to bad mouth me. I’m a Born again Christian from out of Pentecostal church. That has matured as a Christian. If you have any answers that are “absolurely true” most shunn you and think you a nut.
    Most on this forum do not even know what a Preterist is. Let alone a Prophet either. They think everything is in the Future. The do not even believe that Jesus bought the Kingdom of God to Earth to live in. Its called the HOLY GHOST living in you. Mabye you can talk some sense to them.

    To my knowledge I heard that Bro. Graham seen the Pope bout 3 times.
    Would you bow down on your knees to the Pope and kiss his ring.

    Moses didn’t bow to Pharoah, Daniel would not bow to King of Babylon, neither the 3 Hebrew children, Peter would not let people bow to him. On and on and on in the Bible.

    I would not go across the street to see the Pope.

    Billy Graham was not a Prophet – He was a Preacher. He was selected by the denominations to represent Christ to the denominational systems.
    I sure believe he was a good man. That meant right. But just look at the Southern Baptists today. Next in line with the Catholics. Mise well be one cause they already in the World coucil of churches. But most people cannot comprehend and do not want to know what that means.

    Jessie Dupantis daddy also took a small group of Ministers in the 60’s to talk to the Pope. They came back and said it was such a “Spiritual” thing to talk to the Pope. Of course his son Jessie is a big hit on TBN now. Money beggers etc. telling jokes and laughing and Most are millionairs.
    Jan etc. bowing down to Catholic priest as well.

    I was telling people in the 1970’s we now have another Ahab and Jezebel ruling the people and influencing them to pagnism. It has come to past just like I said.

    Lord bless you brother —–in Christs love —-ty

    • tom

      accepted felt the rapture was near, so do many of us still. Shavout would have been the most logical time.

      i still have not seen anything from you explaining why much of the book of revelation has not been fulfilled. example: the battle of armageddon. we are still waiting for that event.

    • talk some sense into them? Maybe you guys just like the debate. I acknowledge that all of you have your unique passions and obviously have some parts of history that you are very well versed in, and obviously could handle yourselves well in a debate concerning certain doctrines and authorities. Personally, I think its a waste of time. I think that people like to pick on the worst in other people, to make themselves feel better or to be right, or to be God’s favorite child. I mean, isn’t this what Jesus meant when he said that we have divided ourselves into many denominations in His NAME, that we create division among ourselves, yet He clearly tells us that we are of one body! He came for all of us. Is this not what He is addressing in Revelations to the 7 churches on the province of Asia? The book of Revelations is meant to instill urgency in all of us that the Lord is coming soon. And the dreams and visions we all share is yet another way for the Lord to instill that urgency in our hearts. I think the sole purpose of life is to live as if we were to meet Messiah today. To love one another, to defend the orphan and the widow, to pray for the peace of Jerusalem, to spread the gospel to the four corners of the earth so that God’s return will come sooner…all of these things are specifically instructed to us to do. I don’t have all the facts on Billy Graham, but I have all the facts on myself. I know where I fall short everyday, and I will work to perfect myself for my Maker on a daily basis. And I will use this twitter feed as a resource to help me do that and to spread HOPE to everyone who posts here. But no, I would never bow down to any man, not even the Pope.

      • Caasi and others,

        I believe that the purpose of this site is for fellow believers of Yeshua to come together, and attempt to discover the truth of God the Fathers Word.
        I also believe that it would be naive for any of us to not understand that doctrines have been corrupted over the last 2000 plus years from that of their true intention and meaning. This has been done by both man and satan.

        The topics are for many of us here, passionate ones, (as they should be). However being passionate, it would also be naive to not realize that at times there may be some rather heated discussions.

        Though it would be the hope of all of those here, that only the Spirit would reveal and Witness the Truth, we must also realize that the enemy appears here as well to bring up false doctrines and to cause division within the Body of Yeshua. Therefore, when division or doctrines appear to be blatantly inaccurate do we that seek the Face of the Father simply disregard them, or offer up a contrary interpretation?

        Ideally, this would be done by not attacking the one that you disagree with personally, but rather by providing Scripture to substantiate your differing point of view.
        However realistically, these discussions do sometimes, turn into debates. Personal beliefs that we have can run very deep, and sometimes the objective of discovering the Truth can be lost within the arguments itself.

        The Apostles contended for the Lord and corrected others for corrupting the Gospel which they were commissioned to spread. Are we not to follow their example?

        Personally, I am not under the delusion that I know it all. That the Word of God is easily understood by all that seek the truth. (What then would be the point of this web-site if that were the case?) Clearly there are many details that are still sealed up and yet to be revealed.
        As well, though many here are blessed with the Spirit, all here are still sinners and still flesh. So though these discussions may at times become personal in nature, it would be the responsibility of the recipient of that attack, to forgive and to not respond in the similar manner, yet at the same time, to also not become apathetic in defending that which they believe.
        (ie;) Would any of you just sit back and not respond if someone were to declare that Yeshua did not die so that you could be reconciled to God?

        The Lord knows the openness of our heart of all that post here. I personally have been led by Him to receive new understand while participating here over the years. This site can be a wonderful resource for those that participate with and possess, a humble and contrite spirit.

        Just some of my thoughts.

        Be Blessed in Yeshua HaMashiach the KING of kings and LORD of lords.

      • Hi Caasi, I had responded to you with the best knowledge and experience I acquired since the past 20 years, in Torah study by comparing with what I learned from Christian preachers, Messianics and finally in the Hebraic /Torah perspective. It’s an universe of difference. If I’m not sure of something, I will never say it or write it. To cause confusion in the minds of others is “the devil’s work”. However, I see that you have been offended by the info I gave you – you can just dismiss it all and continue believing in those false prophets I mentioned earlier. It’s not gonna hurt me at all, I did my job of warning like the watchman on the wall. However, I have a couple of questions for you, just think about it, you don’t have to respond.
        Does YHWH (God) approve of eating the forbidden PIG? Should a Christian Minister preaching the Word of God to his flock, eat pork and also pass pork recipes around? Pat & Gordon Robertson does so .. http: // … plus there were other flaws that really did put me off. When we follow YHWH’s Word we become set-apart and have to stay set-apart for His sake. This is not criticism or picking on others as you mention – rather a testing of the spirit which is extremely important so that we don’t get lured away in deception.
        Before I conclude, the under mentioned Holy Scriptures are not my words but the Precious Words of YAHSHUA YAHWEH – take them or ignore them it’s your choice.
        God’s Word Translation Bible: – 1 John 4:1-Dear friends, don’t believe all people who say that they have the Spirit. Instead, test them. See whether the spirit they have is from God, because there are many false prophets in the world.
        Matt.7:15-“Beware of false prophets. They come to you disguised as sheep, but in their hearts they are vicious wolves
        Matt.24:5-Many will come using my name. They will say, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and they will deceive many people.
        NASB: – Rev.2:9-‘I know your tribulation and your poverty (but you are rich), and the blasphemy by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
        Rev.3:9-Behold, I will cause those of the synagogue of Satan, who say that they are Jews and are not, but lie– I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and make them know that I have loved you.

        Do you want to be in the assembly of such CREATURES?? It’s up to you. Take a look at the blasphemous crowning of a pedophile wrapped around with a Torah Scroll. Do you understand how EXTREMELY HOLY the TORAH is?? However, I don’t want these videos to appear on this blog so I’m putting spaces after the http: Paste the link in the browser, remove the spaces, then just drag the curser forward to cut the joke & watch the video. http: // www .
        Here’s what a good rabbi had to say: http: // www .
        Lastly, there is no such thing as an amazing congregation, if satan had the audacity to defile heaven by sinning against the Holy Creator, will he not do his best to hide in every worship place of God on Earth to cause discord among His people?? That’s why we need DISCERNMENT to be on our best guard. Be Blessed.

        • Hi Jes,

          Though you and I may have a differing view point on the above topic, may I offer up my perspective regarding what you have written above for consideration.

          First, why is the Assembly, (Ekklēsia or church) referred to as a bride?
          In Hebrew, “כַּלָּה” or the transliterated “kallah” is translated into English as “bride” for it is defined as being either a “bride, daughter-in-law, or young wife”.
          It is derived from the primitive root word “כָּלַל” or “kalal” which is defined as being “to complete, perfect, make complete or make perfect”.
          (Strong’s 3618 & 3634 respectively.)

          In Greek “νύμφη”, or the transliterated “nymphē” is utilized, (Strong’s 3565), and is defined as a “a betrothed woman, a bride, a recently married woman, a young wife, a young woman or daughter-in-law”.

          Now, how is this relevant to the law?
          Well lets take a look at Romans 7, with some other relevant verses intermingled within brackets.
          Though I personally prefer Scripture from the King James I will utilize the text of the New International Version below.

          1) Do you not know, brothers–for I am speaking to men who know the law–that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives?
          2) For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage.
          3) So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.

          [15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance–now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.
          16 In the case of a will, it is necessary to prove the death of the one who made it,
          17 because a will is in force only when somebody has died; it never takes effect while the one who made it is living.] (Hebrews 9:15,16,17.)

          4) So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God.
          5) For when we were controlled by the sinful nature, the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death.
          6) But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.

          [28) It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements:
          29) You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.] (Acts 15:28,29. regarding the Jerusalem Council)

          [1)The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.
          2)Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron.
          3) They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth.
          4) For everything God created is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,
          5) because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer.] (1 Timothy 4:1-5.)

          Though you may choose to have a different belief or opinion, the above is the Word of God.
          Be Blessed in Yeshua our Most Holy and Precious Savior.

          • Hi accepted, so what’s your point? Is it the issue of the PIG I brought up?? What??

            • Hi Jes,

              Well yes and more as well, but particularly the aspect of food.

              If God can make a covenant with Noah and say that every moving thing that lives can be eaten as food, (Genesis 9:3.) then change that covenant with the law that was given at Sinai, then why can’t he make the same decision to change it again after the death of Yeshua, (the New Covenant for the bride spoken of above)?

              For the most part Israel chose the Old Covenant Torah over their/our Messiah, rather than the New Towrah Covenant that Yeshua spoke of didn’t they?
              Are people deciding to do that again, or isn’t the Grace of our Lord Sufficient?

              Nonetheless, Be Blessed in the Yeshua our Savior.

              • … I don’t know what the heck you are trying to achieve but really ‘accepted’ you are being the ‘little irritating fly’ that has been flying around buzzing over every comment that has been posted here.
                … Well, I don’t care anymore what you say or what you write back, but really there is only ONE TORAH. I only know of ONE COVENANT that YHWH made with ALL those that were at the foot of Mount Sinai and the so called 5-Books of Moses, the TANAK are NOT Moses’ books but LAWS & COMMANDMENTS given by YHWH to him. So every other book after that (of the prophets to Revelation) is a link / a network of the TANAK. And long after that it is men like you who divided the TORAH into half by calling it ‘Old Testament / New Testament, or Old Covenant /New Covenant. To me from Bereshith / Genesis to Hazon/Revelation – is not DIVIDED but ONE just like YHWH is ONE.
                … RE. SCAVENGER FOODS I have no time to waste arguing as I can very well see that you are here for debates that lead to disturbance, conflict and confusion in the minds of those who have just found YAHSHUA. Since you are defending the SCAVENGER FOODS by all means just go ahead and stuff yourself with Pork, have a Lobster-fest, and all the ugly God-forbidden foods that you can think of but don’t include YAHSHUA in this, that “He did away with the Dietary Laws” because if He had really done that, all other Scriptures forbidding such foods would have been erased in the Torah and He the One who wrote the Torah wouldn’t He have violated His own Word? It would then be “Preaching but Not Practicing what was being preached” Are you making YAHSHUA a hypocrite …Better be careful with your thoughts and words. However, Yahshua gave a choice to man – eat the right foods and be in good health or eat the scavenging foods and be sick and die both a physical death and a spiritual death for disobedience. Maybe some of the following Scriptures will open your mind or perhaps you will twist them again the way your like… have it your way I couldn’t be bothered.
                … Isaiah 66:17-They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree(Christmas Tree????) in the midst, eating swine’s flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.
                … Acts 10:9-19 – About noon the following day as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the roof to pray.
                10 He became hungry and wanted something to eat, and while the meal was being prepared, he fell into a trance. 11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. ” 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles of the earth and birds of the air. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.” 14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.” 15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that G-d has made clean.” 16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven.
                …. Why didn’t Peter eat this? Was it a temptation from satan like he tempted Yahshua?
                … 1 Corinthians 10: 21. You cannot drink the cup of our Master Yahshua and the cup of demons; and you cannot be partakers at the table of our Master, and at the table of demons. 22. Or, would we provoke our Master Yahshua jealousy?
                … Lastly, most of the unclean animals are predators or scavengers whose bodies harbor diseases and toxic chemicals. Not only is the Bible clear that the flesh of swine and rodents is unfit for human consumption, modern medical science also extensively confirms this. It is not to rob us of pleasure, but to protect our health, that God warns us not to eat unclean animals.
                … Re. If God can make a covenant with Noah and say that every moving thing that lives can be eaten as food, (Genesis 9:3.) etc. etc…… They say IGNORANCE is bliss but I say it is DUMB.
                Well, this shows your knowledge of the Bible … Read again, all unclean animals & Fowls were a pair ‘Male & Female’ of it’s kind..Gen 6:19-20 – ONLY clean animals for food were 7 of each kind Male & Female Gen.7:2-3 This shows that Noah had enough clean animals for food.
                … Other than the info provided to me by Elle, I have not learned anything on this blog rather what I have seen is one self-righteous stomping over the other. I don’t wish to partake of this warfare there are much better things for me to do. So goodbye and happy Scavenger Fest!!!

                • Jes
                  Thoose of us that have accepted Jesus as son of God and Messiah = Baptised. We are free to eat watever we want. We are free from the laws. You are slave under the law because you are Jewish. There is nothing bad about beeing a Jew but since Jews don´t accept that God has a son and that Jesus is not the messiah then you are slave under the law. Jesus who is in the Vatican now eats pork, lobster, shrimps, mixes milk and meat and don´t care about kosher. We are free from every law, we are only under the ten commandments.

                  • Adam, if you were wise, you would have known the True God of Creation but you worship BAAL and this BAAL has corrupted your brain – the only cure for your brain and your spiritual life is getting a good Hebrew Translation of the Bible or even Aramaic Bible and start studying it. Otherwise there is NO cure for you.

                    You say: Jesus who is in the Vatican now eats pork, lobster, shrimps, mixes milk and meat and don´t care about kosher. ……

                    HAA!!! This is the height of your insane mind. I’m not going to waste my time with you – so go join your jesus in the vatican and eat all the CRAP you possibly can, then die both the deaths: 1) physical & then 2) spiritual. By the way you are already SPIRITUALLY DEAD and well on the way to HELL!!!! Do you think I care??? Not at all !!!

                    Well, the Jesus you believe in is not YAHOSHUA of Israel, but MITHRA the SUN-GOD that the Vatican and other COPTICS like you worship. That’s why you worship on SUN-day not on the 7th Day Shabbat that YAHOSHUA YAHWEH commanded.

                    So now go join ‘accepted’ and both of you can gorge down the Pig, the Rat, or whatever scavengers you can get your hands on – After all these are the foods of the Romans not of the True God.
                    Again I repeat …. HAPPY SCAVENGER FEST!!! Goodbye!!!!

                    • jes
                      Im a syrianic and hebrew. our language is based on aramaic. I have 40 0000 people around me that is syrianic and we all eat pork and many of us are having tatoos. Paul said we don’t need to follow moses laws. period.

                • jes

                  I agree with you. I think the Word has not changed. Not has god changed his mind. However liberal people get is up to them.

                  my general approach to the Word is to believe it, and not try to “get out of everything” by saying Jesus did away with something.

                  it may be true that some things are not as important now, but if we really love the Lord, we will obey as much as we can, as best we can.

                  • … You are right Marianne, the WORD of YHWH has not changed and NEVER will not one jot or tittle (these 2 words jot & tittle) have a tremendous significance that most don’t even bother to find out. Also YAHSHUA said: Heaven & Earth will pass away, but my word shall NOT pass away. And after saying all this, did he change His Laws & Commandments?? OMG!! people here are making Him a pharisee. YAHSHUA Himself had rebuked those wicked hypocrites who tried to frame Him every opportunity they got but they failed.
                    … I do like most of your articles they are very interesting and educating but sadly I see lots of scoffers on the blog rather than people with whom you can share or exchange knowledge that is how we are supposed to walk in the Word. To me TORAH is the MARK of YHWH that I carry on my heart and mind, it is the Light of my Life and I will defend every word even if it comes to the point of being blatant and then shaking the dust off my feet and moving on!!!
                    Shalom & YAH Bless

                    • There is not enough room here to reply to you Jes, so I will do so at the bottom of the thread.

    • Tom,

      There you go attacking someone personally again simply because they happen to disagree with your hermeneutics. This simply appears to be your modus operandi.

      Yes, I fully believe that I experienced Visions last year. And Yes, due to the nature of the last one, believed as well that it was pointing to the “feast of culmination” or Shavu’ot and that the “Gathering of the Assembly” would take place on that date. Though I happened to be wrong regarding that, I still feel that this feast is a definite possibility for that particular event to occur.

      I DO NOT, (as you say above), believe that any follower of Yeshua will be “raptured” to any planet. That is simply absurd and has placed you in a position of being a false witness. I believe based upon Scripture, that those that accounted worthy of this resurrection will be caught up and delivered to heaven.

      I believe in a Gathering or Rapture based upon the evidence in God the Fathers Word.

      I believe that much of the book of Revelation has yet to be revealed and has not been fulfilled in its entirety.

      I believe that the Lord Yeshua HaMashiach will return in the clouds to collect His flock and bride, then return again as Messiah ben-David, the conquering King to vanquish evil and to establish His Millennial Kingdom.

      You believe that the rapture has already taken place by spiritualizing Scripture rather than taking it literally.

      You believe that Yeshua has already returned and correlate that event with the giving of the Holy Spirit.

      You believe that the book of Revelation is only one big history lesson now.

      I will leave it up to others to judge for themselves as to who is a “nut case” or not.


  40. you guys sure say to be careful of a lot of things on this feed, including each other; I dunno if that’s good or bad

    • caasi

      There is a wide variety of personalities here. Each is seeking his own way. And you are 100% right. We are to love god and love each other. That is the highest calling.

  41. To Elle – feedback to your Jan 27, 2013 response. The space it getting narrow up there LoL!, hence, responding here.
    …. Thanks for all that you shared, it’s interesting what our backgrounds can reveal when we really dig deep. Thanks also for all the links provided they would sure help with my research and study. I like to checkout everything rather than argue, criticize or doubt.
    …. And O, Yes, I know that the queen of England too is controlled by the Vatican… can you imagine ‘sinners confessing to sinners’ you know what that means? Lol!
    …. One of the claims is that Britain itself is owned by the Vatican and has been since the Treaty of 1213. Here is a interesting little insight .The majority of land that is Washington DC , was formerly named Rome and donated by a man name John Pope .Washington has a Dome as has the Vatican .You also have Capitol Hill Washington and Capitoline Hill Rome. Synchronicity or something more nefarious ?
    …. Anyways re. the ‘Angel of darkness’, Amram had a vision. Amram was the father of Moses. In this narrative he receives a vision, in which he sees the Chief Angel of Darkness, named Melkiresha.
    Amram also encounters the Watchers.
    [[ “I saw Watchers in my vision…And behold two of them argued about me and said…”
    He goes on to describe the appearance of one particular Watcher;
    “His looks were frightening like those of a viper, and his garments were multi-coloured and he was extremely dark…” ]]
    Well, what do you know? I found this and I believe it to be true because I read many such reports in the book ‘Alien Encounters’ by Chuck Missler & Mark Eastman as well as elsewhere online.
    …. You do remember when God told Moses to throw down his rod and it turned into a SERPENT – but – when He and Aaron went before pharoah, God told Moses, to tell Aaron to throw down his rod (Aaron’s rod) … this rod according to Hebrew teaching turned NOT into a serpent but into a dragonlike creature. Remember the River Nile was infested with Crocs? – Well, this was the same being, that God cursed and turned into a Reptilian creature, this same being had seduced Eve… You guessed it and believe me he’s very much around!!
    …. Apparently, the two Angelic beings who argued between themselves about him(Amram) were 1)Melkiresha & 2) Melkizedec. Melkizedic, no doubt was saying to the dark one “Amram is mine so back off. This little part about Amram’s vision comes from the ‘dead sea scrolls’ which I believe are badly fragmented so there’s not much given but I’m trying to see if I can get more info on ‘google books’. I’m also onto reading the ‘Book of Jubilee’ translated from the dead sea scrolls … and trust me I have to swallow hard as I continue reading. 🙂 Good to share with you Elle, at least we have the likeness of mind.
    Be blessed.

  42. Just remember that crisis and trials and tribulation REVEALS WHAT IS WITHIN the spirit and soul. THAT is the reason for the coming trials and difficulties in the earth. …that, and the purging of sin and the kingdoms of satan from the nations and ways of this world. JESUS CHRIST HAS WON AND WILL WIN. – remember that above all else. blessings,
    in Christ.

    • I would agree with that.

      even in the best of us, when we are at our best, so we think, there is still a little bit of flesh that gets in the way, and pulls us back.

      we all cling to the desire to be relevant and accepted.

      sometimes this fragile ego of ours gets in the way and taints our service to the Lord

      we must pray to overcome this weakness, and become nothing, so that god in our lives gets all the glory.

      • Yes. the number ONE challenge is to die to self and the adamic eg0 that was “formed” [as a perverse sense of “self”-assertiveness and “self”-will] during the fall and direct disobedience to The Creator-FATHER-GOD. ONLY THEN can we be filled with the Spirit and LORDSHIP of Christ via the Holy Spirit within, … with the Spirit of Christ directing our every step & stop and word & deed !

  43. Thy Fool
    The context of Jesus’ warning about calling a brother a “fool” concerns those who have an unjustified and murderous anger against their brother. (Matt. 5:21,22) Jesus was speaking specifically of Jews who were soon to be casting “insults” (such as “Raca!” and “Fool!”) at His disciples, persecuting them and saying all kinds of evil against them falsely. (Matt. 5:11; Acts 9:1)

    It was as a result of their unlawful hatred of the Lord’s disciples, and their refusal to become reconciled with them, that the Jews of that generation were cast into the “prison” of the Great Tribulation, and were not let out until the last cent was paid in 70 AD. (Matt. 5:23-26; Lk. 19:43,44; Rev. 18:2).

    That generation was not condemned because it used the word “fool.” “Fool” is not taboo. It is not a word to be superstitiously avoided or neurotically dreaded. (Matt. 23:17,19; I Cor. 1:25; 3:18; 4:10; cf. I Cor. 15:36) It is only a word. What brings down the fire of God’s wrath is the baseless, slanderous, derisive and murderous hatred that the word “fool” denotes in the context of Matt. 5:22.

    I COR 1:26 For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
    27. But God hath chosen the FOOLISH things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
    28. And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:

    1.If all you hear for years is the Love of God, and Grace of God -then you will not Fear God.
    2. If all you hear is “fear and unbelief” then you will not understand the Love & Grace of God.
    3. If all you hear is “half truths” for years you will never understand the “full truth” the Mysteries of God.
    4. If the Mysteries are never taught – then you will never know the Joy of Knowing Full Truth. Cause you have been taught Half-truths most of your life. And you love to have it so.
    5. Because Change of mind and thought is one of the hardest things for a human being to experience. And without Christ Spirit in you, you will never Change.
    6. That’s your Armageddon – Marianne— yea I know – what you thinking. That’s out in the future. The Greatest Battle ever fought is in your Mind.
    7. Disagreeing with a Brother or Sister is not the sin. The sin is if you let bitterness and hate consume you. “Which I will not do“. I always make things right before I let the sun go down upon my wrath. Then I know I’m free and forgiven. Or I would hate many, many men who have made fun of me in the world and in the church. Have a good week. –bro. ty

  44. Marianne – Hope you read this – it might help some ?

    The Armageddon in the future is always. Wars and killing. The most important Armageddon to win is the one in your Mind. Rom 12 speaks of transforming the mind. To Christ mind. to combat these dark days.

    We all see Armageddon coming. What is their to say about it. Its going to be all around the world and all nations again will be at war. But WW3 will end this age as well.

    People try and go around this fact. With a Rapture or a Millennium theory.
    It easies their conscience and fear of the future alittle.
    Their are 3 woes in Revelation. Many believe those to be Curses. War is a curse- death, suffering, dying, losing loved ones. First woe WW-1 Second woe -WW-2 Third woe WW3 – And at the same time – There is a great falling away along with a revival for the believers. This is why Rev. 18 a Messenger was crying out to “come out of her my people”. The Bible says in Zachariah that there will be “Light in the evening time”. But it will only be a remnant that see that light.

    Please Read: Rev. 14:4 Its the whole church “redeemed among men” not just Jews – its Jew and Gentile – pretty plain to see –
    Now ver. 6 is a Message of restoration coming forth in this time.
    To every kindred and tongue – again PROOF this is not just Jews only its the entire Church. This is Luthers Message and beginning of restoration fro the dark ages.
    Then Ver. 8 The nations had fallen – Yes after Luthers day came John Wesley’s message after Papal rome was starting to fall –
    Then 9th. Verse – Another Message and the last one for this age. It is talking about the Image of the Beast and his mark and the wrath of God
    That was Bro. Branham’s message to complete restoration. The Mal. 4 of our day right before the great burning. Along with Moses and Elijah back in the Rev. 11 – Remember Rev. 11:15 the end of the worldly kingdoms is being taken over by Jesus and His Christ=Bride – That has already happening as I talk.

    Lord bless ya and hope it feeds your Mind and heart as well. —ty

    • tom

      at least you see that war continues. I do agree that the biggest armageddon is in our minds, but we are still in a fallen world. evil is still here.

      if all was accomplished 2000 years ago, that was described in revelation, then why do we see no messianic peace in the world? there was also supposed to be a millineial reign of jesus on earth, followed by a short war with satan, who gets casts in the lake of fire…….

      that has not happened…satan is sitll with us, there is no peace, and the evil is getting worse.

      this current global scenario would indicate the “fullfillement of all things” failed, and now the world belongs to satan.

  45. Adam, I don’t care if you are a Syrian or Aramaic or if you eat pork or even have a nice bath with the blood of the pig …. All I know for sure by the Holy Torah Scriptures that you are already, not just BRAIN DEAD but SPIRITUALLY DEAD and you are right now on the FAST TRACK TO HELL!!!!

    So again enjoy the PIG with your ‘priests and nuns’ and go preach in the Vatican and to the pigeons there ….. and lastly enjoy the ride to Hell where you will be grilled for eternity.
    PS: This is my last response to you. I will not waste my time anymore replying to Zombies … they are the walking dead!!!

    • oh well. i tried …….

    • jes
      I will live with Jesus in Rome soon. we have very poor times ahead of us. thoose that will have most to eat is us. Im not going to hell beacuse of eating pork. the whole christian world eats pork. and syrianic and aramaic is the same. Jesus who is in the vatican have to children living and they are born on sundays. the important thing is to rest one day and not work everyday in the week. It is God who will judge if i will go to hell you don’t have the right to judge me. If a jew breaks one law then he breaks all of them. Instead of telling us Christians how we shall live teach your own jews to follow all the laws. I see Jews everywhere who cuts their hair or beard. They are not allowed to that. Jesus and I are born in the same blood so I ‘m special. I will end this and tell you that Jesus children dinah and shimons favorite food is lobster. I heard you have great lobsters in maine. I think I will travel their before babylon burns.

  46. Marianne – you said – but we are still in a fallen world. evil is still here.
    Of course it is – Quit looking at the World in Book of Revelation and find the Gospel of the Kingdom of God. It is Greater than the World’s problems. We in the World but NOT OF IT. We have been delivered from Death, Hell and the Grave but the world is not.

    Rev. 22:14-15 – Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the “tree of life”, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
    REV.22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

    Question – When did you get the “Right to the Tree of life ” in 1st church age.
    Rev. 2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh “will I give to eat of the tree of life,” which is in the midst of the paradise of God. The Kingdom of God is Here NOW – Jesus taught the “Kingdom of God” more than any doctrine that He preached.
    The World knows nothing of this Kingdom cause they are blind and in darkness. They cannot see Spritual things as you and I can see knowing Jesus Christ.

    Attributes of being in the Kingdom are GALATIANS 5:22 – But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    GALATIANS 5:23
    » 23 † Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
    » 24 † And they that are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
    25 † If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
    We are walking and living “In the Spirit” of the Kingdom of God NOW. Sinners are on the outside. Read Gal. 5:17-21 the World lives in their kingdom of the fallen satan. God of this world. The SEEN world we walk by Faith – seeing things the world are absolutely blind to.

    ALSO we have Power that the World knows nothing of – right NOW

    I CORINTHIANS 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
    8. For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
    9. To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
    10. To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
    11. But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
    12. ¶ For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

    1. If the Church does not know how to operate in the Kingdom of God then like any Kingdom. You do not know your rights. God has a Constitution a Covenant. He cannot lie.
    2. In the Kingdom of the World- you can choose to excel or not as a citizen.
    3. In the Kingdom of God- you have that same right cause your are a citizen of the Kingsom of God. All His promises are Yea and amen.

    I will get back with you later as well. ———-ty ——— about your post

  47. Hi Jes,

    Well that is very nice…. “I am a irritating little fly” simply because I have responded and commented with a different point of view to a few particular other comments here, as well as to you? Charming.

    Isn’t that the whole point of this website? (For the most part above, my response to you was all Scripture. I’m sorry that you find it/that irritating.)
    The point of this site is to discuss or debate the Word of God to discover the truth within it, where “arguments” occur are, when one or both parties involved become angry. Well I am not angry, but I have no control whatsoever over how you wish to respond or the emotions that you may or may not be able to control.

    2 Timothy 3:16,17. states; “All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.”

    Therefore if you or I, or any of us here have a question concerning as to how we should walk before God in righteousness, we should be able to find the answer within Scripture.

    You say above that there is Only One Torah.
    By that I suspect that you would be referring to the first 5 books of the Tanakh, (ie; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy), but more specifically you would be correlating Torah to the Law and Commandments that were given at Sinai.

    (If I’m not correct with that assumption I apologize, and would appreciate it if you could provide for me a little more clarity as to what Torah specifically means to you. However I believe that I am correct, therefore I’ll continue.)

    Now, though Torah is commonly understood as to be referring to those first 5 books, it actually derives its name from the Hebrew “תּוֹרָה”, transliterated “towrah”, primarily defined as “Law, Direction or Instruction”. It is derived from the Hebrew primitive root word “יָרָה”, transliterated as “yarah”, defined as “to throw, shoot, cast or pour”. In respects to “shoot” within the Qal verb tense, it refers to that of “shooting of arrows” and within the Hiphil verb tense, to “direct, teach and instruct”.
    Therefore combined together they denote “instruction, direction and teaching in how to shoot the arrow as to not miss the mark.” In other words, in how to walk righteously before God.

    Now these 5 books encompass a vast amount of time, and within this time frame there have been many different laws, directions and instructions proclaimed by God to man. The very first time that the word “towrah” is utilized within the Tanakh has to do with Isaac being told to not go to Egypt and how God, (Adonai, Yĕhovah), will be with him and bless him, “Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my “LAWS”.” Genesis 26:5.

    Interestingly enough, the very first commandment made by God to man was not “towrah” but “tsavah” or the Hebrew “צָוָה”, (Genesis 2:16,17. & 3:11 and 17.)
    Tsavah is a primitive root word, and is a verb that is also defined as to “to command, charge, give orders, lay charge, give charge to, order or appoint”.

    There is the Hebrew “מצוה” or “mitzvah”, (Commandments and Ordinances). The Hebrew “חקה”, or “chuqqah”, (Statue or Ordinance), as well as the Hebrew “פֶּה” or “peh” which refers to the Voice or Mouth of God and has been translated many times into English as the word “commandments”.

    All of the above, (and more), reflect the Divine instruction, direction and Voice of God to man, as to how to walk righteously before Him.

    Now, since you appear to place a significant importance on the word “towrah”, (though we should understand that by its definition, it would be one of many Divine commandments or instructions), would not with Yeshua being God in the flesh, also have the authority to issue and declare “towrah”?

    He appeared to have had that authority as He expounded upon the Law within Matthew 5, explaining that ones “heart” was what was of the most importance, rather than the execution.
    Yeshua Himself also declared in John 13:34., “A new commandment (towrah) I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.” He also stated, (in verse 35), that doing this is how to be His disciple, “By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.”.
    Yeshua also states in Matthew 22:40., that to do this “fulfills or hangs” all of the “law and the prophets”. Would not this be towrah from God in the flesh?

    And though you express above that you have difficulty in accepting a distinction between an Old and New Covenant, this appears to be clearly stated within Scripture by both Adonai in Jeremiah 31:31,-33.;
    “Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this [shall be] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.”

    And the author of Hebrews in 8:6-13., which refers directly to that of Jeremiah, and does more than indicate that indeed there is an “Old and New Covenant”.

    “But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises. For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord. For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. In that he saith, A new [covenant], he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old [is] ready to vanish away.”

    Now the point that I was trying to convey above regarding the “bride” is this; Yeshua did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. (Matthew 5:17.)
    The law was put in place to be a base line so to speak, to reveal the sin of man. Without the law, there would be no transgression.
    Romans 4:15.; “Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, [there is] no transgression.”
    It was necessary for Yeshua to fulfill this law completely, and to be sinless in relation to the law, so that He would then be qualified to be the Sacrificial Lamb.

    Now if Yeshua first “fulfilled the law” and then died for the atonement of our sins as the Unblemished Perfect and Worthy Lamb, then the transgression of those that accept Him as their Savior has been removed, and they are now righteous and clean in the eyes of the Father. They have become through Yeshua, “Perfected”.

    And if perfected, then in the eyes of God, considered to be in the same state as Adam and Eve prior to the transgression and fall.
    So if the “bride” has been “perfected and made complete” through Yeshua’s shed blood and there is no transgression or condemnation whatsoever for those born again in Him, then wouldn’t Genesis 1:29,30. be applicable again?

    “And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which [is] upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which [is] the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat. And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein [there is] life, [I have given] every green herb for meat: and it was so.”

    With Yeshua’s Glorious sacrifice, wouldn’t we have gone full circle? Cleansed in the eyes of God, reconciled in our Lord Yeshua and available to have an intimate relationship with Him again similar to as it was within Eden?

    What concerns me is this; Many of us here believe that we are in the latter days. And Scripture states that there will be a “falling away” first, before “the man of lawlessness, the son of perdition” will be fully revealed. (2 Thessalonians 2:3.)
    As you are probably aware this translated “falling away” is translated from the Greek “ἀποστασία”, transliterated as “apostasia”, defined as to “fall away, or defect”.
    As you are also more than likely aware, this Greek word is only utilized one other time within Scripture as well. And that would be in relation to Moses and the law within Acts 21:21., where it has been translated into the English “forsake”.

    “And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to “forsake” Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise [their] children, neither to walk after the customs.”

    Above I quoted 1 Timothy 4:1-5.

    “Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth. For every creature of God [is] good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.”

    Now you fully have the right to believe whatever that you wish to believe, however I personally rely solely upon Yeshua as my absolute EVERYTHING.
    Yet I can’t help but wonder, (as it relates to the Word of God and Scripture) if expressing to “abstain from certain foods” isn’t not only fulfilling the prophecy of 1 Timothy 4:1-5., but also fulfilling the “falling away” or “apostasia” as well?

    That is the point that this irritating little fly was attempting to convey. 🙂 I am sorry that I didn’t articulate it clearer the first time.

    Be Blessed in Yeshua the Aleph and Tav. The Glorious Foundation of Rock and EVERYTHING.

    • A short appendix to the above;

      The first 5 books and all that Moses wrote, as well as the Prophets and all of the law within the Tanakh, point to Yeshua as the Messiah of Salvation and to nothing else.

      I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that [cometh] from God only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is [one] that accuseth you, [even] Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.”
      John 5:43-47.

      He is EVERYTHING.

      Be Blessed in Yeshua.

    • dear irritating little fly….that is so cute….. 🙂

      thank you for explaining your views.

      has everyone forgot the topic on this page?

    • … “simply because I have responded and commented with a different point of view to a few particular other comments here,” …..

      Frankly speaking, a person who is a good student of YAH’s Word would understand what I wrote but no, you commented to cause strife. The problem with you is that; you have a “superiority complex” – like “I know everything, I need to be on top”, this is an attitude of the pharisees that Yahshua rebuked over, & over again.
      … Why are you explaining all that to me? I don’t need you to be my teacher, I have the best whom I learn from .. but again you want to display your knowledge to show your smartness while little do you know that you are making a fool of yourself.
      … You made Yahshua a violator of His own word re. the Pig and now you want to twist things around. What a twister WOW!!! When the word Torah is mentioned you just flip like an omelet because your mind is only on the 613 Man-made commandments. because you don’t know that those 613 commandments were NOT for everyone but divided among the Hebrews both male and female.
      … When YHWH gave the Laws & Commandments in the hands of Moses, He did not give him a ‘bible’ but the TORAH. So why are you calling the Holy Word of YHWH ‘bible’ which means only a book – like saying “Ma, I’m going to get a book” and she wouldn’t know what book. But the word Torah has immense meaning. Do you realize that the bible(book) becomes important only because the TORAH is printed in it? without the Torah in it, it is nothing but just a book. Do you know (I bet you don’t) this word bible was derived from Biblia a pagan Greek sun-goddess of Greece. Now go do you research before attacking me again and enjoy your pork dinner washed down with Red wine bodied with the blood of Oxen, goats, lambs and even pigs. And keep space for some blood-mixed-chocolate-pudding & chocolate truffles – No exaggeration here, do your research I’ve given you plenty to dig for and learn.
      Btw, don’t bother responding. Goodbye.

      • jes and accepted

        You BOTH need a time out…..

        do not comment to each other for awhile.


        • I had already decided not to anyway, ever, shook the dust off my feet. It’s not worth it at all. A real waste of time.
          Be at peace.

      • People get ready, there’s a train a comin’
        You don’t need no baggage, you just get on board
        All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin’
        Don’t need no ticket, you just thank the Lord

        People get ready for the train to Jordan
        It’s picking up passengers from coast to coast
        Faith is the key, open the doors and board ’em
        There’s hope for all among those loved the most.

        There ain’t no room for the hopeless sinner
        Who would hurt all mankind just to save his own
        Have pity on those whose chances grow thinner
        For there’s no hiding place against the Kingdom’s throne

        So people get ready, there’s a train a comin’
        You don’t need no baggage, you just get on board
        All you need is faith to hear the diesels hummin’
        Don’t need no ticket, you just thank the Lord


      • After allowing for a couple of days to expire before responding to the above, (with hopes that anger itself has subsided), I will reply by simply quoting a couple of verses of Scripture.

        “Jesus saith unto him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me”.” John 14:6. KJV.

        “Looking unto Jesus the “author and finisher” of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.” Hebrews 12:2. KJV.

        “Brethren, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.” Romans 10:1-4. KJV.

        Be Blessed in Yeshua our KING of kings, the Rock of our foundation.

        And just for the record there, I didn’t mention the word “Bible” once above?

        • ….. Accepted, you write English but do you understand it at all?
          How many times must I write … DO NOT RESPOND TO ME AGAIN.
          Do you want me to write in French, German or some other language?
          I truly did not want to respond but I am now compelled to.
          ….. And who the heck do you think you are preaching to me? Are you using Paul’s words falsely just to fight me? Of course, this is Christian attitude for all they know is to quote Romans.
          This scripture you mentioned is meant for yourself, not me …. “For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.”
          ….. You see how you are jumping from one subject to the other to cover up your fault. The issued was about the PIG.
          You are the one who ACCUSED YAHSHUA of violating His own Dietary Law. While I am defending Yahshua, You are the one fighting me for defending His Torah.
          …. Of course, that is understandable because you yourself are a PIG eater who like all other pig eaters say – “Yahshua changed the Law and allowed PIG eating” – stick to the topic don’t hop around scriptures like a grasshopper.
          ….. You can allow another 2 days / 20 days or 20 years for cooling as you call it, it’s not gonna happen with me for I won’t forget that you have accused YAHSHUA of violating His own Torah … and this is the most blasphemous and disgusting thing to me me. Next time we discuss this, will be at the throne of the Great Judge – So better repent otherwise I’m sure you know your destination in the next life.
          Don’t bother responding – I’m done with this blog once and for all and done with you.

          • Jes,
            The above is not addressed to anyone, though that conclusion that it is addressed to you could be derived through inference as being directed to someone that appears to have both control and anger issues.
            This is an interactive blog, where you can not dictate as to whether I happen to respond to anyone or not. Or anyone for that matter.

            Nor can I dictate the same to them. However, it is hoped that discussions and comments could be civil, rather than simply embarrassing.

            The above consists of Scripture, and like you went on with a rant regarding the word “Bible” above, (where it was never utilized in the first place), you have now concocted the idea that I somehow stated the Yeshua had violated His own dietary law. I never once said that either.

            Scripture would indicate that He was born under the law.
            “But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, “made of a woman, made under the law”, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons”. Galatians 4:4,5.

            Therefore Yeshua, (to be without sin in the eye’s of Father God), had to fulfill all of the law.
            “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.” Matthew 5:17.

            As I commented above, “The law was put in place to be a base line so to speak, to reveal the sin of man. Without the law, there would be no transgression.
            “Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, [there is] no transgression.” Romans 4:15.

            So, It was necessary for Yeshua to fulfill this law completely, and to be sinless in relation to the law, so that He would then be qualified to be the Sacrificial Lamb.
            So Yeshua followed the law that was in place then perfectly, and was sinless and had no transgression in the eye’s of Father God. (No bacon or ribs.)

            Yet when He died on the Cross a New Testament came into force.
            “How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions [that were] under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For where a testament [is], there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament [is] of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.” Hebrews 9:14-17.

            Above the author of Hebrews describes the law as being “dead works” for the people performed them carnally and by the letter, rather than from the heart and Spirit.

            I could go on and on here, (for the benefit of others), for I know that you will believe what you wish to believe. Which is fine. I won’t berate you at all regarding that.
            But there is so much evidence in inspired Scripture regarding this topic, it is difficult to see how it is not understood by all who follow the Lord.

            Nonetheless, I will not return the contempt, but will wish you blessings in Yeshua the KING of kings.

            • Accepted, Jes
              I think Adam said something about Jesus eating Pork…The “Jesus” that lives in the vatican now (according to Adam) Same thing with “Bible”.

              Jes, You must be confusing Accepted with Adam. Just thought I would let both of you know that, so that meaningful conversation can be had.

              God bless

    • To All,

      I would like to make a correction above regarding Genesis 1:30.
      (Quoted in my post of Jan. 30th. @ 8:32 pm)

      I believe that I made an error in my interpretation, for before the fall, I don’t believe that “death” had reared its head yet, and that there were no carnivores within the animal kingdom at that time. So that particular verse is referring to the animals rather than to Adam and Eve.

      I apologize for any confusion whatsoever.

      Be Blessed in Yeshua the Highest.

  48. Question 2 from Marianne=if all was accomplished 2000 years ago, that was described in revelation, then why do we see no messianic peace in the world?

    1. First reason is the world has never had any peace because it is of Cain’s seed. Worldly:
    If the “Kingdom of God” has no peace – Then it is cause we have “no faith”.
    2. Jesus 1st. Coming he said he could not find faith in ALL of Israel — That was when he healed the Roman Centurion’s Servant. A pagan had more faith than all of Israel. Jesus was constantly rebuking his disciples for lack of faith. What about today. He is telling us the same things.
    3. What is faith – It’s a REVEALING of a Message spoken by the Voice of God for your day. Which is your Trumpet call. Matt. 24 -To gather around – Come 2064 – and Listen to that Voice. Israel heard that Voice but turned it down and crucified it = His message.
    4. That Voice will Manifest itself through Gods anointed 5 fold ministry. Jesus was Also a “Son of Man” = Prophet. Any New Message ALWAYS starts with Apostles and Prophets. Never through a denomination. All they have is bits and pieces of the puzzle and it become’s Babylon just like Israel‘s day. Completely in the Dark about the Messiahs coming. The whole denominational world of Jesus day crucified Jesus the Message.

    Jesus said “it is finished” —“It is done”- He ended the O.T and the N.T started at His resurrection. And was not fully recognized until Israel had its Armageddon AD 70.

    How many Jews could actually believe such a thing as that. They just could not receive HIS Message that the O.T had been fulfilled by His Message. And that He was the actual MESSIAH. Even though he fulfilled every promise of the O.T law. Why is it so hard for people to understand that today. Surely you believe the N.T will be fulfilled soon. As you say it will.

    1. Just try and understand that the Book of Revelation is the Revealing of Jesus Christ in HIS Church. So put your focus on the church’s power we have over satan’s kingdom. Every 2 to 3 chapters is talking about the Gospel of Jesus Christ anew – What His life did for us against the powers of Satan’s Kingdom. When you start looking at it that way. You will start seeing the Gospel message right in it. Every thing John talked about went on in the Church ages.
    Every Overcoming Gift that was spoken of in the 7 church ages of Rev. 2 and 3 — Can be found in the rest of Book of Revelations. That is a fact – Then you can get a grip where we at.
    2. The 2nd. Coming has an End to it as well. Meaning it gets fulfilled same as O.T did. – Once all the sevens are revealed then its over that’s its. Those 7 things were the Thunders of Rev. 10 which were the Trumpets, Vials, Plagues, Sealing the last day believers.

    The GREAT MYSTERY is that those 7 ages each had 1 thunder – 1 vial, 1 plague, 1 Seal to open, 1 Trumpet Message to follow . We are on the BACKSIDE of the LITTLE BOOK. The 7th. Age is the last “Book end” – we look back and see it all. In every chapter of Book of Revelation’s.

    Rev. 5:1- And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the BACKSIDE, sealed with seven seals. THE OTHER SIX ARE HISTORY AND WE SEE THEM IN HISTORY and fulfilled in Revelation of Jesus in His Church.
    2. And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a LOUD VOICE =MESSAGE, Who is worthy to OPEN the BOOK, and to loose the SEALS thereof?
    3. And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. = CAUSE IT WAS GOD PUTTING ON FLESH TO BECOME A PROPHET HIMSELF AND BECOME THE LAMB SACRIFICE. ONLY GOD COULD DO THIS. = redeem mankind back. GOD is the SINLESS ONE

    By the Opening of the 7 Sealed mystery of it all The Plan of Salvation. That was lost because of the Medieval days of the Dark ages. God had to restore it all back before its over. Israel is one of the lasts prophecies fulfilled in 1948 and 1967. It’s done.

    How can a Stone Temple come down and sit on Jerusalem when the Bible says its 1500 miles square wide at bottom. That will not even sit on Jerusalem. There Nation is not that big I heard etc. Let alone Jerusalem itself. Its Spiritual. Its Spiritual – Praise God

    Why would God tear down Israel’s temple just to build another stone temple in its place.
    The nation of Israel has to come into the invisible faith temple just like gentiles do.
    Ezekiel’s temple is the Invisible one. It as I understand is the 6th. Temple and last one. God made the World in 6 days and rested the Seventh. The Seventh day is the REST =MILLENNIYM SABBATH REST. A PERIOD OF TIME ELEMENT. HOW EVER LONG YOU LIVE BEING IN CHRIST IS HOW LONG THE 1000 COMPLETENESS IS FOR YOU. But an infant shall fulfill its day. And the Age as well. I will explain this in a future post. It is pretty simple when you hear the truth of it all. The puzzle comes together.
    ———————-God Bless ———————ty

    • tom.

      again i do not see the trumpets and vials as having been fulfilled yet in history, irregardless of the church age.

      if we are at the 7th age , with all the seals, trumpets and vials behind us…then the church has failed, and there is no peace on earth….

      if the “cain” element is still here after arriving at the 7th seal, trumpet, vial etc, then the Word has failed to accomplish what God intended.

      a tiny group of believers may have the kingdom within them, and they are being tortured and killed in muslim lands.

      we still have famine (church age # 3)..

      we still have martyrdom

      we still have war ( church age #2 )

      no progress in 2000 years.

      I just do not agree with you.

  49. Yes I think Everyone has forgotten the topic.But I would like to take a moment to address a more pressing issue of a Christian Pastor that is detained in Prison in Tehron and ask you all to pray with me. Here is the story if you have not heard of it:

    Every day that American Pastor Saeed sits in Iran’s Evin Prison represents a potential death sentence.
    Fox News described Evin Prison like this: “Beatings, torture, mock executions and brutal interrogations are the norm at Evin prison, where for four decades the anguished cries of prisoners have been swallowed up by the drab walls of the low-slung lockup in northwestern Tehran.”
    Thanks to you, however, our government is finally starting to mobilize. Yesterday Senator John Kerry, just before his confirmation as Secretary of State, issued a clear and personal call for the release of Pastor Saeed, a U.S. citizen.
    Now is the time to call for an international response. Our petition demands that the international community stand up for human rights and demands that Iran comply with treaties it voluntarily and willingly signed.
    Your voice helped free Pastor Youcef. Your voice can help free Pastor Saeed. Act now.

    • yes I have been hearing about this on Air 1 for weeks now. It is terrible, and many many people have already signed petitions for his freedom. As you probably know, that country is not one for negotiation. They are a bitter, oppressive, and as far as I’m concerned, EVIL EVIL country. I been praying for this guy, as he is their brother! He is middle eastern, which is perhaps why he felt he could get into the country undetected, and start planting the seeds of Christian faith below the radar. I admire him for his bravery, and you know what? GOD is with him! He is with him now, as He was with him when he had the courage to go over to Tehran and do the Lord’s will. It might not end pretty. It is highly likely that he may be experiencing torture. But we are approaching the return of the Lord very soon, and it is written that men will be compelled to do the Lord’s work in the most hostile of environments because there is an Absolute Urgency in the air. All Christians feel it. I find comfort in knowing that this man risked it all for His God, our God, and I know the Lord has NOT forsaken him.

      Baruk Ata Adonai Elohenu
      Baruk Ata Yeshua Hamaschiach

      Lord we pray for protection over your servant, your brave one. We ask that you be his light in the most darkest of places. And we ask that you give him strength, and a peace that surpasses all understanding in a country that understands nothing of You.
      Ani Ochevit Ata Always, AMEN

      • dear caasi

        I agree with you totally. I have been getting email from the ACLJ describing the progress, or lack of it in tehran. It was horrible our government did nothing for so long.

        Every day that American Pastor Saeed sits in Iran’s Evin Prison represents a potential death sentence.

        our government is finally starting to mobilize. Yesterday Senator John Kerry, just before his confirmation as Secretary of State, issued a clear and personal call for the release of Pastor Saeed, a U.S. citizen.

        people can sign a petition to release him here:

  50. Marianne – you said
    again i do not see the trumpets and vials as having been fulfilled yet in history, irregardless of the church age.
    Answer – then you must not of heard of the 1 million and 100,000 that died on the Temple Mount in 70 Ad. Eat their own babies, slaughtered by Romans.
    To SEE you must read the Word. That brings faith. A understanding, revelation, etc.

    Rev. 2:9-10 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich ) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
    10. Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
    A. Valerius Diocletianus (A.D. 284-305) almost wiped out Christianity – 10 days is tribulation referring to years .

    1. Every age had the Bubonic plague in them. Killing millions of innocent people.
    It went through Europe killing millions upon millions. Even killed 500 thousand in America in 1906. Wars killed millions etc. etc.
    2. The Catholic church killing Millions of Christians and Islamic and or whoever stood in their way. Even children –
    3. Everyone of these Ages had a Angel Messenger sent to them. Its says so in the bible.
    A. But the majority rejected the truth gospel for fear of death. Rejecting God is walking in death, hell and the Grave.

    So what do we think then. That the Kingdom of God was not their. That when Jesus saw Satan falling in His day. He must have been thinking Only after the church ages. The 7th. Church age is just the consummation of it all. The last latter day.
    4. Does all that mean there is no Kingdom of God to live in NOW.
    5. Jesus said my Kingdom is not of this World or else my disciples would fight. Its Spiritual. How do you get in it – By the Baptism of the Holy Ghost

    #2 question–you said – if the “cain” element is still here after arriving at the 7th seal, trumpet, vial etc, then the Word has failed to accomplish what God intended.
    Answer – Then that makes you very deceived and I hate to say that.
    Cain’s seed could never have taken over Israel if they would have just followed the Word. Solomon’s age typed out the Millennium age – the golden age of Israel‘s reign on earth.
    1. Then they choose bad kings. Not God. The Pagans took them over after that and they went into slavery into The Beastly Nations. And learned their ways.
    2. When following Joshua and the Judges they conquered the land and sin.
    3. The World rules in fleshy and carnal kingdoms – Christ rules in his Spiritual kingdom

    #3 – you said – a tiny group of believers may have the kingdom within them, and they are being tortured and killed in muslim lands.
    Answer – So did Jesus just have a “Tiny” flock of disciples that got Martyred for his sake.
    LUKE 12:32 Fear not, little flock; for it is your Father’s good pleasure to give you the KINGDOM . IN A COUPLE THOUSAND YEARS FROM NOW. I’m being ridiculous to make a point.

    #4 – you said – we still have famine we still have martyrdom we still have war church age
    no progress in 2000 years I just do not agree with you.

    Answer -Well Marianne tell God that – You have not seen no Progress in the Gospel that He Preached and Died for. In the last 2,000 years. That don’t sound like a real believer to me.

    You should ask God for a Double dose of the Holy Ghost. Pray that He will give it to you. You see the Worlds carnality, but cannot see the Kingdom of God is Greater. Then that’s your call. I feel sorry for you. And I have always prayed for you and others and will continue too.
    There is NO Greater Power than the Holy Ghost which is God – which was in Jesus. The World did not destroy HIM. He laid down HIS life willingly for you and me. He could have called 10,000 Angels to set Him free. They wanted to kill him but he slipped through the crowd. Other words He dissolved his elements. He walked on water. And HE make us NEW CREATION not after ADAM IMAGE but after HIS OWN IMAGE.
    Evidently you must not believe that.

    —————————————– I’m done—————————— Ty

    • tom

      you do not understand my meanings, so I think we should discontinue this discussion after this.

      I suggest you go back and re-read what happens during the trumpets and vials.

      we have not had demons crawling all over the earth torturing people, the sun has not caused the entire world to suffer with boils, wormwood has not crashed into the sea and killed 1 /3 of the life there, the euphrates has not dried up yet, armageddon has not occured etc.

      I am saying the actual descriptions of the trumpets and vials have not happened yet, which makes your assumption false.

      the cain comment was just a reply to what you said, which was just not logical. I am not decieved, I can read what is written, and so I understand what is there.

      the martyrdom comment just shows it is not over yet, so we cannot be all finished.

      IF…..IF…..IF……what you say is true, then the Word, not the gospel, has failed, since all ended in 70 ad…..and there has been no fulfillement of revelation and there is no peace….which is the end result of the wrath, where the devil is cast away and finally the world has peace.

      this world is more evil than it was in 70 AD……and IF all was finished in 70 AD, then the Word did not accomplish what it said.


      IF the revelation prophecies are still to be fulfilled in the future, then we will see ALL fulfilled, and the WORD is True.

      I do not believe that the events in 70 ad accomplished much prophetically. the seals opened then, and they are still open……it is not over yet.

      the trumpets and vials have not happened yet.

      I DO believe the events unfolding now will accomplish ALL that the Word predicted.

      right now, the kingdom is suppressed because of the evil still reigning in the world. it cannot have fulfillment until Jesus returns and defeats satan.

      on the cross, jesus overcame sin for us, and redeemed us. this is a spiritual victory….but it will not be complete while there is still sin in the world, and until there is peace on earth.

      yes the kingdom of God is greater, but not many possess it……

      when jesus returns, all will possess it.

      so it is your conclusions and beliefs that would be seen as a failed gospel , not mine.

      I have the holy spirit…..he helps me interpret the Word properly……so you do not have to be concerned about my salvation.

      • trumpets not fulfilled yet:

        1/3 trees on earth destroyed.

        1/3 of the sea destroyed by a burning mountain

        wormwood crashes into the sea

        1/3 sun, moon and stars stuck

        abbadon comes out of the bottomless pit
        demons torture mankind for 5 months, and make people wish they were dead.

        euphrates dries up….demons kill 1/3 of mankind……with fire and brimstone


        mark of the beast not applied yet… deaths because of it


        fall of babylon has not happened yet


        vials not fulfilled yet:

        foul sore comes upon mankind who have the mark of the beast

        the sea turns to blood…..has not happened yet

        rivers and springs turn to blood also

        sun scorches mankind.. has not happened yet

        darkness falls upon the earth……has not happened yet.

        euphrates dries up again….armageddon…

        NONE OF THIS HAPPENED IN 70 AD !!!!!!!

      • The messianic kingdom of God on earth….

        Isaiah 11:6-9.( The Holy bible)

        “The wolf will live with the lamb, the leopard will lie down with the goat, the calf and the lion and the yearling together; and a little child will lead them. The cow will feed with the bear, and their young will lie down together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox. The infant will play near the hole of the cobra, and the young child put his hand into the viper’s nest. They will neither harm nor destroy on all my holy mountain, for the earth will be full of the knowledge of the Lord as the waters cover the sea.”

        Until you see this, it is not “finished.”

  51. Rod Streward recorded that song, nicely done. I pray he wakes up and gets on board.

  52. Marianne – Im been trying to tell you for year now. That all these things have been happening during the 7 church ages which has been in the last 2,000 years in the making. But you seem to ignore that. If you did believe that it would mess up your whole futurist doctrine. Thats the bottom line –

    I guess the dark ages was like living in “Alice in Wonderland”. They never had plague’s, vials, or great wars, sickness, death, famine, wormwood, etc etc.

    As far as I know – I have never said it ALL was over in 70 AD. That is you and a few others that put words in my mouth that I never said or thought.
    That would not even make sense when Im trying to explain the trumpets, seals, plagues, vial that went on during the 2000 year time span.

    I said the End of the Age was Over. Actually the Bible says the End of the World for that age. Happened in 70 AD – Just like the age we in now is ending.

    Sorry you cannot comprehend it. ——————— ty

    • sorry to me that is all fantasy.

      nothing like what I described from the bible has happened yet..

      this world is NOT what was predicted in the bible.

      so it was not all accomplished back in 70 AD

      • Marianne,

        I agree based upon Scripture. For example there is Romans 8:19.

        “The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed.” NIV.

        In the King James it is rendered as follows;
        “For the “earnest expectation” of the creature “waiteth” for the manifestation of the sons of God.”

        The English “earnest expectation” above is derived from the Greek “ἀποκαραδοκία”, transliterated as “apokaradokia”, (Strong’s 603).
        It is defined as, “anxious and persistent expectation”. It is only utilized one other time in Scripture within Philippians 1:20. and its context means the same.

        The English “waiteth” above is derived from the Greek “ἀπεκδέχομαι”, transliterated as “apekdechomai”, (Strong’s 553). It is a verb and defined as, “assiduously and patiently waiting for”.
        Its primary root word etymology is “ἐκδέχομαι”, transliterated as “ekdechomai”, (Strong’s 1551) and is also a verb defined as to “1) to receive, accept. 2) to look for, expect, wait for, and await”.

        (What is also interesting regarding the above is the translated English “for the manifestation”.
        It is derived from the Greek “ἀποκάλυψις”, transliterated as “apokalypsis”, (Strong’s 602). As I am sure that you are aware, it is defined as, “1) laying bare, making naked. 2) a disclosure of truth, instruction. a) concerning things before unknown. b) used of events by which things or states or persons hitherto withdrawn from view are made visible to all. 3) manifestation or appearance.”

        Apokalypsis’s primary root word is “ἀποκαλύπτω”, or “apokalyptō”, (Strong’s 601), and it is defined as,”1) to uncover, lay open what has been veiled or covered up. a) disclose, make bare. 2) to make known, make manifest, disclose what before was unknown.”)

        Any way’s, regarding “waiting”, the same meaning and context is applicable also to verse 8:23., as in “waiting for the adoption”, for again the English “waiting is derived from “apekdechomai”.

        This clearly hasn’t occurred yet either, for we are still within the same age that the Holy Spirit inspired for Paul to write this within his epistle, and as a conformation to this, there are the following verses of 24, and 25 to take into consideration.

        “For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, “[then] do we” with patience “wait for” [it].”

        The English, “[then] do we” and “wait for” above being derived from the same transliterated Greek “apekdechomai” again.

        Be Blessed in the truth of Yeshua HaMashiach.

  53. Nice song, thanks for posting the lyrics too.

    Blessings 🙂

  54. Dear Marianne,
    In regard to the hill that was bare, I would like you to have a look at the Ol-doinyo Sabuk , great mountain in Maasai, which is also the Kilima-m-bogo, or mountain of God in Sanskrit as in the picture below.

    I trust the photo should compare with the hill in your dream, in which case or otherwise there is more to the relation of the mountain of God.
    Not many places on earth are named in relation to God, and when this is in the ancient tongue of knowledge and wisdom, the mountain then must be of great significance. Other places bearing the ancient reference to God are the Lake Bogo-ria in Kenya , which is to say God’s flower o radiance, and then there is Bogo-ta, in the South America which should mean God’s land. This Kilima M-bogo, then must be a ‘holy place’ as the ancients of the world knew, but is now all but nothing, a hopeless derelict place. The terrible devastation to nature and creation can not in any worse way be represented than how this region of the world has dealt with the environment, and at that, the greatest mountain on earth, in that it was the first where God chose to place his name. It is appalling how we have dealt with God’s sanctuaries, as we have also done to Jerusalem the earthly, and all such places where generation after generation the Lord choose to be associated with.

    Now in regard to the three days of darkness and the angel of destruction, it is apparent that our careless destruction of the earth is the reason for which we suffer great calamity, and all that the angel symbolizes is the time after which the natural elements will be allowed to wreck havoc and terror on the unwise ways, settlements and occupations of men that are contrary to nature. The three days of darkness I would suggest fell upon the 19th to 21st March 2013, between which the world witnessed the crowning of two religious leaders, but who apparently are not, and know nothing concerning the will of God, and the times appointed to the world.
    It was about this time also that the rains began in Kenya, and as of now, many rivers have flooded and burst their banks, with a significant death toll and displacement of persons. I also understand that the Mississippi has also burst its banks, and whereas the skeptics will try to explain the phenomenon as yet another simple outcome of global warming, which will soon give way to some other symptom, nevertheless I would suggest that the angel of death has commenced the slaughter, which is the reaping of our foolish destruction of God’s creation. The slaughter however is not so much against people, but mostly against their ways. The clouds that were to be over the world are now back, and storm after storm will flood and annihilate the ways of men, begging them to return to the ways of God, for God causes all these things in great love for us, that we should live and not perish by our wanton destructive traits. For those who destroy the earth do so because they care not about their neighbours, nor the future generation, and they do not have the fear of God, nor love for their creator, else they would treat creation with the respect it deserves, and the Creator, and His shrines with awe and honour.



  55. Oh, and I appreciate the advice to put most of my observations in a book, which God willing I should eventually do, but in that it takes sometime, in the meantime I will continue to share in bits and pieces. When the relevant book is ready, that is how the entire world features and places were all named in Sanskrit at the beginning of time, which names most of the places still keep to this day. I will let all know, and it will be a free download. I already have some other works freely downloadable from lulu, such as the ‘alpha logito’, the book copies also are the cost of the publisher as I believe what we receive free we should give free as well.

    i also came across an interesting similar affirmation of places names that are derived from the Sanskrit and the link is as below.

    Is it not all mind blowing, that the Lord not only has the visible heavens as the template from which the earths features were placed and fashioned, but also one tongue was used to name all these features, and the language to a large extent remains preserved!

    The ways of God are truly great and past finding out.

    Mara-natha, other than meaning may the Lord come in Amharic, in Sanskrit has the meaning of the Lord over Mara, the cycle of ma-water, truth, poison, death, and ra-sun, heat , eminence. He is the Lord of the eminence of truth, Lord of the waters and the heat, Lord over death and despair, the Lord of all that there can conceivably be, represented in the simple term, Mara-natha, even so come Lord Jesus. Likewise, words such as Ra-ma of saul is the reverse of Ma-ra, and therefore means uplifted as the waters and truth come after the heat and conceivably overcome the heat, whereas in ma-ra it is the heat that defeats the water. But in Mara-natha, it is the Lord who defeats and reins over all that Ma-ra can embody. Sanskrit is therefore not a language foreign to the scriptural truth, but has been part and parcel of the same, as the book of Ruth, in which all the names are of Sanskrit derivation. I would suggest that this Sanskrit was the language that Daniel was to interpret before Belteshazzar, it was the language of everlasting truth, and was so ordained of God at creation, and all other tongues of men, including Hebrew come after, and many examples from the bible itself will illustrate and endorse this relation.

    God bless you all,


  56. At the end of time, Isaiah speaks of a time when people on the earth will be in darkness, and they will shake their fist at God. Those who are in darkness will see a great light, or Jesus the returning Messiah Isaiah 9 does indeed have a “re-description” of the action. Before I go there, however, lets look at the last two verses in Isaiah 8:
    21 Distressed and hungry, they will roam through the land; when they are famished, they will become enraged and, looking upwards, will curse their king and their God. 22 Then they will look towards the earth and see only distress and darkness and fearful gloom, and they will be thrust into utter darkness.
    What does this enigmatic passage mean? I believe that it refers to the end of time, where Jesus himself predicted that there would be so much distress and darkness on earth that unless he returned, no life would be spared. (Matt 24:22) Jesus predicted that as he comes back in the sky, there would be darkness on the land, as the moon will turn red, the sun will go dark, and the stars will fall from the sky (Matt 24:29,30). As an interesting aside, as of 2013, there will be several blood red moons over the next few years, and many of them will take place on Jewish feast days!
    Thus, Jesus said that at the end of time, those who are unbelievers will see only darkness and curse God. What will we who believe in Christ see? Getting back to Isaiah 9:1,2, lets observe:
    Nevertheless, there will be no more gloom for those who were in distress. In the past he humbled the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but in the future he will honor Galilee of the nations,
    2 The people walking in darkness have seen a great light;
    Can you see the connection here? The end of Isaiah 8 spoke of the last days where people will see nothing but darkness and thus curse at God. Isaiah 9 picks up the story: those people who are walking in darkness will see a great light, and that light is one who was from Galilee. (Jesus was from Galilee, right?)
    I can just see it now, can’t you? At the end of time, everything the world over will appear to be in darkness and distress. The armies of the world will be converging around Israel. All hope seems lost.
    Then, streaking across the sky, a great light will pierce that darkness. Who will that light be? What will it be? It will be none other than Jesus Christ himself! Why? How? Many people do not know what Armageddon really is. It is not the last battle between the world’s armies in the way one would normally think. It is instead Jesus Christ coming back in the sky and destroying those armies-at least causing their destruction. Isaiah 9:5-7 confirms this Armageddon time stamp:
    5 Every warrior’s boot used in battle and every garment rolled in blood
    will be destined for burning, will be fuel for the fire.

    Isaiah 9:5 is a fascinating text. What does it mean? It’s actually a reference to Armageddon, the last battle, where warrior’s garments will be burned for fuel by the Christians who come back with the Lord. Ezekiel 39:9 actually has this same prediction, (re-description alert!) that the weapons used in the last battle will be burned for fuel-thus we have a confirming end of time connection here in Isaiah. Like our WWII example of Pearl Harbor, we are beginning to see various interesting aspects of end of time predictions.
    As I posed before, who will be that great light that pierces the darkness at the battle of Armageddon? Isaiah 9:6-7 answers:
    6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. 7 Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end.
    Jesus Christ was the child who was born, and he is the “son” of God who “was given” as a sacrifice for all mankind! As he comes back in the sky to pierce the darkness, then his government shall rule the earth from that time forward. Isaiah 9:7 also says that this “son” shall “reign on David’s throne.” Thus, Isaiah 9 is about the child king who will be named, “Mighty God, the everlasting Father,” who, as the world is in great darkness, will come back and reign. Then yes, the weapons of the armies of Armageddon will be burned for fuel. Things are beginning to makes sense now. For it will be at that time that his government and peace shall not end!
    So far, we have found a secret story connecting chapters 7-9.
    Isaiah 7: Immanuel will be born of a virgin. The king of Assyria will be sent against the people of Israel. When? Isaiah 8 answers:
    Isaiah 8: At the end of time, the king of Assyria will be sent to Immanuel’s land: Israel. Those on the earth at that time will see nothing but gloom and darkness and will curse God. Picking up there, Isaiah 9:
    Isaiah 9: Those in that darkness will see a great light. Who is that light? The man from Galilee, the “son” who was “given.” (John 3:16) Isaiah 9 also says that the weapons of Armageddon will be burned for fuel. And from then on his government shall reign.
    I think it’s easy to see the story line here. One can distinguish how God predicted in an amazing way how the Messiah would be born of a virgin and then, at the end of time, “the Assyrian” would be sent against the land of Judah. Then, just as the world is about to destroy itself, the light of the world, Jesus Christ, will break through that darkness and bring an end to evil. Christians will then burn the weapons from the armies of Armageddon. Does Isaiah 10 continue along these same lines? Would that be too much to ask? Could it be possible that 4 chapters in a row are connected somehow?
    Isaiah 10:
    5 ‘Woe to the Assyrian, the rod of my anger,
    in whose hand is the club of my wrath!
    6 I send him against a godless nation,
    I dispatch him against a people who anger me, (Israel)
    to seize loot and snatch plunder,
    and to trample them down like mud in the streets.

  57. Hi just learnt about Tetrad when there are 4 eclipses back to back, and as OT prophecies speak of last days when sun turns black and moon becomes like blood, NASA shows in 2014/2015 this will happen. They also show the time of occurrences as Passover. In human history since the nation of Israel was rebirthed, when tetrads occurred, atrocities were done to Israel and the Jews.

    Be blessed in The Lord who is forever to be praised.

  58. Hi all,

    In regard to the three days of darkness, and in reference to the Egyptian plagues, the particular three days of darkness happened just before the tenth plague, which was the occasioning of the deliverance of the Children of Israel. That much is apt at this present time too, for the deliverance is next, immediately after the three days of darkness. But the scriptures and the prophecies speaks many times in metaphors, and proverbs and riddles. To discover the meaning of this metaphor, of the three days of darkness, could therefore be of wonderful importance in ascertaining where we are in regard to the kingdom of heaven supplanting the ways of men. For this is the manner of deliverance that I propose we are awaiting.

    Now I never got any comments from my comment above, in regard to what the three days of darkness have to do with the desecration of the environment, and my suggestion that the summary of our illegal desecration of God’s tenets of Creation can not be better observed that at the Mt Kilima-M-bogo in Kenya, which in Sanskrit tongue spells the mountain of God. I will not enumerate all the evidences on the landscapes of the world, and of this particular region specifically, which I have analyzed to bear Sanskrit format names with meanings that spell out loudly a grand narrative. In fact, I will not even enumerate any of significance, for space and time.

    It does happen that the rivers of this land are all named wonderfully. The one is called Mbagathi/Bhaga-dhi, which means God’s intelligence. This is the one that after the Fourteen falls, is called the Sa-baki, Way to the Mountain of God. I have indeed investigated the source springs of this river, where some are even called Guru-gici, the teacher or weight of great clarity, names which to the locals have lost meaning, but in employing the most ancient language of wisdom, the meanings perplex and amaze. Now about the fourteen falls, the numbering of these falls are specific, and so is the Kikuyu age-set names of all past ruling generations, commonly attributed to the tribe, but in reality are of the entire world since before the Biblical Adam and Eve. I have been amazed to discover in the meanings of these names of past generations, and likewise in the meanings of the names in the books of Moses, that indeed there were inhabitants of the earth beyond the approximate 6000 years that the Adam/Eve generation is associated with. For the antediluvian flood was in fact at about the 7th to 9th millennium of earth’s habitation. The generations that preceded the creation of Adam and Eve were systematically destroyed at this creation, and latter altogether at the legendary flood. In brief, we are now at the close of 14,000 years from the real beginning of Earth history. This earth is God’s foot stool, whereupon it was so created to teach wisdom to is students. For Knowledge can shared in records, but not wisdom, which only God can teach and impart. Among the kikuyu, the world is called, thi, which is wisdom in Sanskrit, while heaven is called I-guru, the teacher or knowledge in same Sanskrit. So now recalling the Kikuyu bible translation that narrates what God did in the beginning, creating heaven and earth, it sounds like the Proverbs 8 that talks of God first possessing wisdom in the beginning of his ways.

    I wish not to bother you with a language that you may not be proximal to, (its the oldest Bantu language known….) and whose use is diminishing every day, but imagine that this was the scientific language that was originally used before the Babel incident. It was the language the angels used to teach our ancestors of naming all things upon earth. I had this strange and wonderful dream in which a space ship had landed with mixed signs upon the heavens, and to my amazement, three of its occupants who came to converse with me were ancient leaders of the Kikuyu, and of course they talked to me in the same. After researching one of the names which they had mentioned, Cege, I did find that legend has it that he really never died but was taken alive to the heavens. Well, lots of things are currently happening about here, in fulfillment of many prophecies, scriptural and otherwise.

    My take is that these lands of my ancestry were the original place where man first lived, before they spanned out along the Nile to Europe and the rest of the world, others across the Indian ocean. These lands I have reiterated are the image of the Southern cross constellation, and were the original Holy lands of God the creator. It is from these lands, when all other peoples went a whoring after other gods, that retained the truth, and that for many generations. By the time the kingdom of Israel was being born, literally, these lands had always been the pillar of wisdom and knowledge, according to God’s inscription. When it is spoken of a firstborn being Egypt, that first had been born from this particular lands, both physically as well as spiritually. When the first things must be the last, it is apparent that the unveiling of the kingdom of heaven must first take place upon the Alter land, which was always from the beginning, well, the people of the fig tree, the Agikuyu. I have no intent to suggest that flesh and blood bear any significance with God, but when we are spiritual first, and then just happen to be of a particular ancestry, the glory to God is amplified. We however yet know that all laborers received equal pay for their efforts. All I’m suggesting is that we open up our minds to what the Spirit of God is illumining to us at this hour. For earth’s history as currently known and presented is a big ruse. The truth, the real truth, is different and a wonderful entity. Africa never was the dark continent, for at its heart was God’s first Alter lands, with a priesthood that has lived throughout the ages, only interfered with by European occupation over the last 120 years, but soon to be restored, and that will illustrate the way of truth to the rest of the world, as always was from the inception of heaven and earth.

    This week, all four of us in my immediate family caught the stomach flu, which began with my two year old son, a day latter was me, then the mother, and lastly my other five year old son. (Our ill equipped health facilities could not identify our ails and only presumed food-poisoning) At the end of the illnesses, it occurred to me how each of us only was able to be active after three days. I recalled also that this stomach bug was sweeping across the globe some times after the 13th January 2013. Likewise in some Bantu culture mysticism, there are three days for which initiates are said to ‘die’ and visit the spirit world after which they become adepts of their crafts. Among the Kikuyu, and other positive mysticism cultures, these three days of induced sleep and fasting were known as days of cleansing before the great spiritual occasions. Now then it seems that the practice and tradition was from heaven, and could be what is termed as a three days of darkness. For of those who catch this bug without any spiritual knowledge of the times, are totally in darkness, but who know of God will consider the purification process and give glory to God at all stages of the same.

    Now what happens after the end of this period is either one or the other, illumination or condemnation to perpetual darkness. It is also interesting in my part, that the three years from the time which I was maliciously thrown out of a ten year odd employment, and without any benefits, comes to a cross this month. The spirit has promised me that this was intended to be so, and thereafter, as I already experience, will I witness the marvels of God, greater than ever I have known. I live each day with expectation and hope.

    So, what really ails the world? The forbidden fruit, if one may suggest, was the fig, for they dressed themselves with these fig leaves after they found themselves to be naked. The fig trees are they that grow on water towers and river courses, that is their natural habitat. Wisdom advises and forbids human encroachment on water towers and courses, for life and civilization without water is impossible. But over the last hundred years, human impiety has destroyed forest covers that had held intact the worlds water towers. In the case of Kenya, its a sorry state. Urbanization is our preoccupation, rather than tending to nature and to balancing our actions with nature. The world has failed dismally at conservation of the environment, regardless of the advancement in technology, human greed and uncouth traits have ruled. By destroying our environment, there is only death. Since the rich would fair better in a match of death against the poor, that is one of the Lord proffers his salvation. God is already intervening at this moment, kind if giving warning shots to the world, to desist their evil ends and careless attitude and to address nature, and with it their fellow poor. The time limit I dare mention is in a few months time, when the Lord will up the destruction of current civilization to gradually replace it with one that regards its place in the natural system, and that simply put is the kingdom of God. In my dream, the ancestors had met me in one skyscraper and queried if these were the types of forests our generations tended. That really did mean a lot, for these are our forests that have replaced the real ones which God instituted. Now, which of the two types of forests is sustainable in the long run, and which of them also sustains life?

    • Thank you John for that informative discussion from your culture’s point of view. There is always more than what we know, and we find this in each other.

      I just had the flu also, and it was mainly bad for 3 days as well. My son had it also.

      I hope God blesses you in your employment, and that you can find something that will satisfy you.

  59. Hi folks,

    First and foremost, regardless of what is occurring in the world around us, the true believers in Jesus Christ can be confident that they are and will be fully protected by God at ALL TIMES – Psalms 121:7-8: “The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul. The Lord shall protect both your going-out and your coming-in, from this time forth, and even for EVERMORE”.

    Also, Jeremiah 45:5 – “Behold, I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the Lord, but ‘YOUR’ life I will give unto thee for a prey in all places whither thou go.”. What does ‘life for a prey’ mean? It means ‘a life snatched out of the jaws of the destroyer; a bountiful table set in the midst of our enemies wherever we may be’.

    So no matter where you are, what you may be doing, what your environment may be, what state the world may be in – if you believe in and follow the Son Of God – you are fully and unequivocally under divine protection.

    That being said, God clearly wants us to be fully aware that we are now living in the End times, with the Last Day fast approaching. The prophet Daniel (Chapter 12:11) tells us that TWO things must happen before the 3.5 year timeline is initiated:

    1) the daily sacrifice is “taken away” and
    2) the abomination of desolation is “standing where it ought not” be standing

    Based on my study / prayer, I find that these two critical signposts are the following:

    1) The daily sacrifice being taken away, in our modern times (which is what we are talking about) is the fact that the Roman Catholic Pope (Benedict) was abruptly and mysteriously “taken away”. He was shockingly and very quickly moved out of the global scene to the utter amazement of the entire world The Roman Catholic theology, while is is not necessarily (most often is not) a full representation of of true Christian belief, it is nonetheless a Global Phenomenon that the ‘world’ follows, so God removed the Pope to get our attention. Pope Benedict was the ‘last of his kind” in that he was a fervent follower of the Catholic theology which requires that the Pope performs the “daily sacrifice” during the Mass. The daily sacrifice is the performance of holy communion – which commemorates and symbolizes the sacrifice of the Lamb – Jesus Christ. So from my perspective, the first sign Daniel presented us with has just occurred, this past February 2013. (Pope Francis does the same, however, he is quite a different Pope and represents the “new age” beliefs).

    2) The Abomination that Makes Desolate ‘standing where it ought not’ (Jesus spoke of this also, so this needs extra special attention – Matthew 24:15) – again, in our modern times, refers to a new Global Law / Ordinance that is instituted “standing where it ought not”. I think most people view this as referencing an object or even a person since Jesus said that it is standing in the “holy place” but I believe this does not refer to an actual physical place but rather a spiritual place referencing the most blessed place – the “holy place” of creation which is God’s most prized and holy gift to us.

    Therefore, it would seem most logically that this is talking abut a new Global Ordinance that is instituted that is given a high place in a our society as a new “Standard” law. Laws of our global society “stand” in place, if you will, to maintain our the sanctity of human civilization both physically and morally. This new law will be given the SAME LEVEL OF HONOR and ACCEPTANCE as currently existing laws, but and because of this, it is referred to as the Abomination of Desolation “standing where it ought not.”. In other words this new law is a complete “travesty” in that is signals and promotes the absolute rejection of God’s most precious gift to mankind – the gift of creation – yet men will embrace it. By instituting this law, we truly become “desolate”.

    What law might this be? From my perspective, the only law that can stand where it should not be standing that can be categorized as an “Abomination of Desolation” – meaning the desolation / destruction of man by his own hand – the law which is now being put into place very rapidly – making it fully legal and acceptable for a woman to marry a woman and a man to marry a man. This is fast becoming a law that will soon be equal to / on par with heterosexual marriage, if not taking on pre-eminence over heterosexual marriage!

    When this law takes hold in all corners of the earth (the 2nd signpost of Daniel), I think we can begin to safely predict an “approximate” time of the end. I say approximate as Jesus said he “would shorten the days for the elect’s sake” – so while we can come close to approximating the Last Day, God alone reserves the knowledge of the precise timing – but he surely wants us to be fully aware of signposts to guide us along this path and walk in his ways. So as Jesus so often said Pray & “Watch!”.

    Shout out to Marianne – God Bless you for facilitating & promoting the spread of God’s word!

    Best regards to all,

    Mary Anne

    • hi Mary Anne

      I think I see more and more spiritual / metaphorical interpretations of the daily sacrifice and abomination.

      It is true that no matter what physical / literal event takes place, that it is the spiritual response of God’s people and the people of the world that will matter.

      May God bless you also.

  60. Hi Marianne and all,

    I believe there is a spiritual component to every physical / literal event that occurs. If God hadn’t purposefully designed it to be this way, he would not have manifested himself through the human physical body of Jesus Christ, who was destined to live a tangible, literal life as an example to us as humans of how we can achieve the fullness of God by embracing the Christ spirit while living as human beings.

    Because God personified himself in the form of a literal human being, I believe He is making a very clear statement to us that He is closing any perceived chasm we think exists between the physical and spiritual worlds – that this chasm is just that – an erroneous perception. The Spiritual signs he gives us manifest themselves in tangible, literal ways. It is the true discernment of those signs, however, that come through the Spirit of God in Christ only.

    Jesus said “Be in the world, but not “of” the world” meaning that we are physical / literal beings who must obey the laws of nature and of our world, but at the very same time, we are spiritual beings created by God, obedient to Christ, striving for the ultimate prize of eternal, spiritual life – which many times puts us at odds with the ‘world’. But our focus at the end of the day, as you point out, is to always strive to be in communion with God spiritually because the physical / literal is transitory and will ultimately pass away…

    As far as “signs of the end”, I believe when Jesus and the prophets / apostles tell us to look for signs, they really mean that these signs will be expressed / manifested in our literal / tangible world – but are to be interpreted spiritually, through Christ, to discern their true meaning and to help us understand where we are in God’s timeline. I think even if someone were not a Christian today they still could see without too much difficulty that the world is sinking deeper into a quagmire of immorality, violence and decay (the “falling away” referred to by Paul – see below) with each passing day.

    The “spirit” of Anti-Christ, no doubt, is here in our midst already as evidenced by the increased “falling away” of the human race (i.e. distancing themselves from God). According to Paul, the Anti-Christ will also be manifested in human form during end times – another tangible sign. In 2 Thessalonians 2-3, he says “Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition”; …

    My point here in all of this is that God gives clear signs to his elect and that based on those signs he has presented to us thus far, I believe that God’s wrath upon the world is not that far into the future…. the very good news here is that it is proclaimed in both Isaiah and Peter that a “new Heavens and a New Earth” will be created for us by God at the appointed time – 2 Peter 3:13 and Isaiah 65:17.

    Best regards,

    Mary Anne

  61. Doesn’t the 3 days of darkness happen after tribulation?

  62. An angel of dearh visited my sister last night and she told us this morning that we should not go outside at night for the next three days. But heres the thing, a month ago in my city there was a terrible storm and after the storm i felt a dark feeling so i looked to the sky and saw a angel but an angel of death. The storm was his warning. But may God be with us all over the next three days

    • mark

      take the warning. it may be a local thing. or maybe not. something else?

      usually people will not stay inside unless they see something wrong out there.

      so I hope if something is wrong, people who are outside will come in to be safe.

  63. Hi Marianne,

    I believe the 21st of September 2013 was a biblical festivity whether of the first day of the feast of tabernacles, or of the day of passover, only heaven knows. About three days before the said date, I had been planning and working on penning down what I have obtained in regard to the location of ancient garden of Eden, and its chief trees, when I had a dream to await three days for confirmation on some matters. And so I awaited.

    On that Saturday about midday, terrorists attacked a shopping mall in Nairobi and held it for three days causing multiple casualties and deaths. The entire country was held at ransom for the three days, during which its security forces made claimed victory, but in fact it was a total defeat of the forces, for other than the civilian casualties, six military personnel likewise perished, with others wounded, and their claim of killing five of the terrorist, whose number they had at first claimed to be between ten to fifteen, cannot be verified, as the day after they had claimed to hold total control of the building, three floors of the building came down allegedly trapping the rest of the hostages, as well as the dead terrorists. It all fits with a massive coverup of what actually transpired within those three days inside that building. Today being the fifth day hence, the cameras have been removed from the area, and the recovery of the mangled casualties is to be done without the TV cameras.

    Now on the third day of the siege, it is said that the terrorists lit a fire of foam mattresses to create a diversion sorts, yet the fire seems to have been on from off the building in an area supposedly under the Kenyan military. It was latter when I sought terrorists actions of the similar that I came across a notorious Pakistani terrorist who had used a similar diversion of a smokescreen to evade his pursuant.

    It is apparent that the terrorists have invoked a new manner and style of terror, in which they are able to escape without trace. Science will not give the answer to this mystery. I only wish the Kenyan forces would be open and reveal what actually transpired. In the first instance, the terrorists are said to be an international crop, and although an Qaeda related organization has claimed the attack, it is not as simple as meets the eye. Anybody, and everybody could be the financiers and master minds behind the attack, and for numerous reasons. The intelligence agency in Kenya was certainly caught off guard cos they were placing their efforts in the wrong direction. The oil recently discovered in Kenya is the root cause of the interest of the west in this country, that had already opted to work with the East and Russia, and certainly the west was to loose in this arrangement. It is therefore plausible that an occasion was to be created to enable the west mend relations with the country without seeming to loose face over their past pronouncements about the elected government, again whose leadership is under trial at the ICC for alleged past involvement in genocide and crimes against Kenyans. Many forces have sought in the past to disintegrate the country, and the west had chosen which faction they obviously supported, but the locals seemingly had a different mind. It is therefore not strange, that the said Jihadists were allegedly from the western nations, rather than the usual, and this is why the USA and Britain winked first in seeming to trace the terrorists from among their citizens, and paying off some elements to have the Al Shabaab take the blame, with the end effect that the west will once again be welcome to Kenya in guise of the war on terror.

    But the gist of the mystery is that the terrorists did certainly escape the dragnet, wherefore the country’s forces were stupefied and petrified for the whole of yesterday, and then created a convincing excuse of the collapse of three floors of the mall, thereby concealing all evidence of what had transpired within the building.

    I’ m the least interested in issues of terrorism and the war against it, but now with what i know of this land, I feel burdened to seek for a solution to such matters and lies. The Jihadists for hire being Moslem have in their faith practice with spirits called Jinns. It is now apparent to me, that these evil spirits are what is directly ailing the earth, and they are being employed by both the west, as well as Islamic Jihadists to wage war on God’s sanctuaries, or whatever remains of them. That is why in the same weekend in Pakistan, there was a similar terror attack on a Christian church where over 78 lost their lives. But watch what happens within a day of the event, an earthquake within the same country. For the world is united with evil spirits to terrorize the people of God, and sadly, even the west is with the evil, only they practice their evil in great secrecy. What has happened in Nairobi is only the beginning, and now that the Jihadists have proven they are indomitable and their union with demons now perfected, and in that they were able to carry out an attack in sacred territory and on sacred days, because we Christians have forgotten the ways of our God, we all are open to destruction by the hand of the evil angels, unless we speedily recount out steps and seek our God and trust in him.

    How can one fight spiritual soldiers of the devil with earthly military weapons? It will not work, and hence the devil’s military is winning, until we awake and adorn the armour of God, and from thence wage this way to victory.

    I will still post you the map of the rivers of the region, now that this matter is confirmed. Indeed, I believe I have already located the physical tree that was the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, on a ridge between two rivers. There stood before me trees I had know since childhood but never guessed of their implication until last week. They were two ficus religiosa, or a close species, but certainly was not the common natalensis that is more common in this region. Likewise I believe to have located whence the tree of life was trans located to, which is in the Nyandarua ranges, which before I mentioned to you means the deep tower of the Divine. As this is still hidden in a deep protected forest called Mount of Olives in the local dialect, whence is the source of the Thiririka stream, I have not had occasion to visit the place, but I do believe it is real.

    Incidentally, ISON is still on its way, and alas, the probe sent to peek into it was lost to earth, after so many years of service. Seemingly, ISON does not want to be peeked into.

    One more thing, Prior to all these events, I had had a dream in which vampires had arisen over the earth, and were seeking and destroying many lives. I was not able to keep up the fight, when suddenly, more vampires arose with wings for flight, and it was at this juncture that the Lord with a small number of host came to my aid and of those around me, and the location was within the city of Nairobi towards the river of that same name. Now I would not mention this except for what followed after the terror attack. Massive blood donation campaigns have been mobilized, and certainly more than that blood that the casualties required, yet the call continues. I’m certain something macabre is towards this relation, and whereas Hollywood has already played out all of these certain scenarios, lets recall that the earth is under the spell of demons, and what really happens in true life is stranger than what we hold to be fictitious. These vampire terrorists are working to nurse their demon masters who are to latter arise upon earth, but when they do, likewise time will be up for this world, gladly and our salvation will be at hand.

    God bless you and keep you.

    • thanks for the update from your country, and insights.

      things are getting worse, and people have not connected the dots yet.

      demons are everywhere, but we can still find protection with God.

      however, we must also pray for those who are attacked and persecuted, or God will hold us accountable.

  64. Indeed as the siege came to an end and other proceedings have unveiled, the mall was not attacked as such by mortals, but by creatures of darkness of which we in the common world opt to know not of. For indeed after three days of the siege, none of the terrorists were killed as the security organs inadvertently own up to. For they only state that they think they shot two dead, and then collapsed the building on another three to total five dead, however whose bodies have not been recovered. It is also mentioned there were between ten to fifteen of the terrorists. Imagine what manner of force is required to hang a body onto the ceiling of a 20ft supermarket? Likewise the missing body parts of the victims and the whole picture of horror, which the orthodox media is ‘missing’ out on.

    The Kenyan security organs likewise mention foreknowledge of the even up to the date with certain of the agencies warning their loved ones to avoid the mall on the particular day. The building also has the fame of occult activity in general prior to this particular event.

    The entire episode was a sacrifice to demons by the elite in Kenya, either by knowledge and allowance of the government agencies. They were also abetted by the agencies of Israel, USA and Europe in the matter, for in fact the building was purportedly owned by an Israeli. The blame on an Islam connection is totally to cover up the real perpetrators of the evil, who are the occultists in charge of world affairs, and they know not that their time is come to an end. Their sacrifice to demons will certainly come to naught.

    In today’s national prayers over the event, there was quite some drama but the occultists again had their way, reading from the bible on Solomon’s dedication of the temple as a house of sacrifice, as they read it, openly illustrating the relation to the Masonic plan of the world, and implying how the event in Kenya was a dedication by sacrifice to their gods, by whom they have amassed great wealth and influence.

    I came across the spiritual guidance on the location of the garden of Eden in the passage quoted below,

    ‘Many years ago (1988) I took an excursion in Turkey which I blew off at the time as ridicolous. I’m a veteran and was stationed in Sinop on the black sea. We took a very interesting bus ride to what the Hittites considered to be the remnants of the garden of Eden. I admit it sounded cheesy at the time but on that bus we experienced things and saw things that even 25 years later I cannot explain. It was beautiful and it was said to be unkept. On the way to the garden was carnage and death where people started getting irritable and shouting including myself. I said theatrics or perhaps gases from a tar pit can explain that? Then as we entered through a stone gate the climate and mood instantly changed. Lush fruit trees and picturesque waterfalls and streams.I tell my story but ironically I cannot find any evidence of where the actual location was then or now. It was in Turkey and within a 2.5 hr bus ride of Sinop for certain. After growing and understanding the bible and it’s teachings 25 years later has given me renewed interest in my personal journey and why I was given the visions I’ve seen throughout my life so Happy hunting!!!! Some things are supernatural and I’ve accepted it.’

    Hittites indeed would use the ancient universe geography and would know for real where the garden was located. The interesting connotation however is the theatrics, or gasses from tar pit causing trouble of bloodshed upon earth. In this relation, the theatrics of terrorism, and the war on terror are chiefly about the tar pits of the world. Likewise these demons have been released on Kenya after the tar pits of Turkana have been drilled. Is there a possibility that as petroleum is being mined the channel for demons to return to earth is also broadened? Well, where is the region of darkness where these creatures have been restrained over the years? What does man know about this earth anyway, except for self enrichment without referring to the adverse effects?

    Lastly over 15 000 pints of blood were donated following this Nairobi event, following a massive blood donation drive. The injured were just about 200, and even if they all required to have their blood replaced, required ought to have been just about 2000 pints. The excess of blood donated in a country where storage capacity is not as high, and likewise without accountability, and we all know also that donated blood has an expiry period….. All these clues indicate a real horror in the making. As the government releases scanty, and often conflicting information over the event, they are quick to warn all against making speculations and that so doing is a crime under Kenyan law, which is to say we must believe in the lies we are being fed, and that using ones mental capacity is a crime.

    This is what the world has come to, and what has just occurred in Kenya will find its way into the rest of the world. Humanity is being shepherded in to the pit of hell, regardless of the amount of spiritual light that God is shedding upon the world at present. The grand finale is associated with a football season, probably by the next world-cup event. For once the victims are brainwashed, the rest will be easy for the forces of darkness.

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