Consider the Cost


How many of us really forsake everything?

Luke 14:25-33

25 Now great multitudes went with Him. And He turned and said to them,

26 “If anyone comes to Me and does not hate his father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, and his own life also, he cannot be My disciple.

27 And whoever does not bear his cross and come after Me cannot be My disciple.

28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, does not sit down first and count the cost, whether he has enough to finish it—

29 lest, after he has laid the foundation, and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him,

30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish’?

31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, does not sit down first and consider whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand?

32 Or else, while the other is still a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks conditions of peace.

33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.


Putting God before family and the world

This may seem hard to do. God does not want us to abandon our families but to put him first in our lives.

If we do this, then our families will be blessed.

If we do not do this, and allow the world and our families to take priority over God, then we are guilty of idolatry.

We need to spend private time with God, and seek His face and will for our lives.


The Cross

The Cross represents our sins that Jesus bore for us. If we continue in sin, then we reject his atonement.

We must seek the Lord, and turn away from the sins of the flesh.

We must also follow the example of the cross, and forgive others who sin against us.


In Galatians 5:19-21 there are seventeen sins of the flesh listed, and Paul tells us in Gal. 5:21 that this is not a complete list but are examples by which we may recognize or judge the rest of them.

The Sins of the Flesh are listed as:



Now let us look at each one so that we may understand what actions or thoughts belong in the category of "Sins of the Flesh".

Adultery: It is a defilement of the marriage bed, and is the sin of uncleanness committed by two persons, one of which at least is in a married state.

Or we could describe it as the voluntary sexual intercourse of a married person with someone not their spouse (Unfaithfulness). Jesus said that you can commit adultery in your mind, without acting on it

Fornication: The sin of uncleanness committed by persons in a single state.

The voluntary sexual intercourse between unmarried persons. This is illicit sexual intercourse and covers homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals, close relatives, and the worship of idols.

Uncleanness: Is a general term for all unchastity, in thought, word or action and covers especially all unnatural lusts like sodomy.

Sodomy: Self pollution. The unnatural sexual acts (such as oral or anal sex) between any two people (married or not) or bestiality, that is having sex with an animal.

Uncleanness is the impurity of lustful, sensual or unprincipled living. That is, they have lost or are insensible to principle, virtue, or decency

This is a depraved or dissolute person. Of course, no one will ever admit to living this type of life but you should be told that sensuality and evil doctrine are often associated. In 2 Peter 2:10, the Greek word for "Defilement" is rendered as "Uncleanness"

Lasciviousness: This big word means "Lustfulness". "wantonness", or "filthy". It is unbridled lust, that is unrestrained. This is outrageousness, shamelessness, insolence.

It is the absence of restraint of their arousing sensual desires. Their mind is constantly on gratifying their sexual desires without regard to anything else. They use filthy conversation, shameless conduct (they do not care who is present when they seek to gratify their desires.)

Idolatry: The worshiping of other gods, or of graven images.

All vices spring from Idolatry and are peculiar to it.

It is the sin of the mind against God. (Eph. 2:3). It is the excessive admiration or veneration of anything other than God.

Immorality, the sins of the flesh, are associated with and are traced to lack of acknowledgment of God and of gratitude to Him. That means that any type of immorality or other sins of the flesh, are also Idolatry.

The Idolater is a slave to the depraved ideas his idols represent (Gal. 4:8-9), and thereby to different lusts (Titus 3:3).

Witchcraft: The real or pretended league and association with the devil, seeking to talk or associate with familiar spirits (a consulter with familiar spirits, De 18:10-11, a demonic spirit that stays with or near you, guiding you in actions and thoughts. giving you hidden, or secret information. leading false prophets)

To gain unlawful knowledge, or to do hurt to fellow creatures; which in doing gives honor to Satan and detracts from the glory of God.

This follows idolatry;

conjuring (‘observer of times, De. 18:10-11, astrology),

soothsaying (a wizard De. 18:10-11, Lev. 19:31, 20:6, seeks information from the dead for those living, such as finding lost bodies, objects, etc.),

necromancy (necromancer Dc. 18:10-11, one who seeks to interrogate the dead [a medium] for consultation and or divination.), and all kinds of

magic (enchanter, De. 18:10-11, Lev. 19:26, one who uses omens and any form of magic to put a spell upon,).

Hypnotism (charmer, De. 18:10-11, the casting a spell upon or influence as if by a spell). A Witch (Dc. 18:10-11, witch, is one who makes use of magic formulas or incantations and drugs.)

Witchcraft is the practices or powers of witches or wizards, as due to dealings with evil spirits or the Devil. It includes the use of, or the administering of drugs.

Those persons who indulge in the use of mind altering drugs (not related to health) are in fact practicing witchcraft.

The Greek Word translated Witchcraft is pharmakeia, from which we get our word pharmacy (drug store). Its meaning is related directly to drug usage. There are three places in the bible where this word is used, in Galatians5:20, as witchcraft, in Revelations 9:21 and 18:23 as sorceries.

Hatred: The internal hatred of any man’s person, even of our very enemies. This is forbidden and is also called enmity. It is the opposite of "agape" love (the highest level of love). It is an intense dislike or aversion. A very deep seated unfriendliness even hostility.

Variance Fighting and quarrelling, by words scandalous and reproachful, what we commonly call scolding. It means to cut apart, to divide in two.

It is a tending to vary, to change inconstantly, reckless, or fickle in what we say or do which puts down another.

Emulation’s A boiling and rising up of the spirits and passions, at the honor and happiness of another. It can also be called jealousy, envy or indignation at another’s pleasure. It is trying to equal or surpass because they (in your mind) are gaining happiness.

Wrath Violent emotions of the mind, moving to revenge, and seeking the hurt and mischief of others. It is hot anger, extreme or violent rage or fury. Usually accompanied with vengeance or punishment. It is an anger that boils up and then soon subsides again.

Strife Perpetual contradictions, either expressed by words, or working in the mind (for this strife may be in a man’s heart James 3:14, 16). This is also an angry contention, any contest for advantage or superiority (not sports), a self seeking ambition in seeking to win followers.

This is stirring up trouble in order to place yourself on top. This is trying to gain followers by falsehoods (lies), making them believe one thing when your purpose is really for your personal gain.

Sedition’s Dissension’s or divisions in things domestic, civil, and religious. It is language or conduct directed against public order and safety of the state or the secret incitement of such disorder.

The state means the governing body of a family, a city, county, state, or country, or the leadership of a local church or its national associations.

Built into the laws are ways to legally make a change. Sedition’s is the unlawful attempt to divide and overthrow any ruling body. God instituted government.

Heresies Are bad principles and tenets, relating to doctrine, which are subversive of the fundamentals of the Gospel and the Christian religion, and are the produce of a man’s own invention, and the matter of his choice, without any foundation in the word of God.

It is a self willed opinion which is substituted for the truth and leads to division and the formation of sects or cults.

Any belief contrary to established doctrine of a church or religious system.

Envyings A feeling of resentment or discontent over another’s superior attainments, endowments, or possessions. It is a desire to possess the goods of another.

They have it, you want it. It could be over the things someone has like a car, house, money. It could be over the personal endowments of someone like handsome, beautiful, tall, short, hair. It could be because they were chosen to be your boss, to lead the club you belong to, while you desired that position.

Murders The malicious and intentional killing of one human being by another because of ill will, spite, or desire to injure another. It is a willfully formed desire to do another an injury. It is also called Slaughter.

This is not an accidental killing or the taking of a life in a war battle, or the taking of a life of one being executed by a legal government. These three are shown in the bible to be either allowed or actually commanded by God. There is not the space here to go into the scriptures on this subject.

Drunkenness The excess in drinking of beer, wine or strong drink, where the mind is intoxicated, and the body is enfeebled and unable to perform its functions as it should. It is often the source of many, or all of the works of the flesh.

Intoxication is the poisoning of the body This poisoning is also defilement of the temple of God, which is in the body of Man.

Reveling is characterized as an excess in eating, coupled with drinking, dancing, singing, sex, and wantonness.

The Greek dictionary gives the definition as:

"A nocturnal and riotous procession of half drunken and frolicsome fellows who after supper parade through the streets with torches and music in honor of Bacchus or some other deity, and sing and play before houses of male and female friends; hence used generally of feasts and drinking parties that are protracted till late at night and indulge in revelry."

They engage in noisy and unrestrained festivities which has also been called rioting in Romans

13:13, which is a consequence of drunkenness. Many times it also included wild unrestrained sex

while in the drunken state. (Ex. 32:6)


Count the cost

Living a life for Yeshua (Jesus), the Messiah, will require many sacrifices and sufferings. We may be mistreated, cheated, lied about, and harmed.

We may not be rich, or successful, but end up in a humble position instead. We may even be martyred.

Yeshua counted the cost, and gave up his life.

Are we ready to do this?


Forsake All

This is also hard to imagine. Do we give up our families, income, property and live in the streets?

I have to still think about this, but I feel it means that again, what is in the world that is ours should never be more important than our relationship with God.

We should not be selfish and always look to meet our own needs.

We should share what we have and God will bless us for that.

Our hands should always be open to those in need.

Whatever we do to the “least ones” we do unto the Lord.

Also, if we do have financial resources, we should save wisely to provide for our own families, and then be ready to follow God’s directions as to other uses He may have in mind that will benefit others.

We may have to sacrifice a good job for a lessor one, if God wills it for us. He may see witnessing opportunities in the lessor one, that would give Him glory.

We may also experience the rejection by our loved ones for the path we have chosen.

This is very painful.

Our friends and families should always be treated with love of Yeshua, and the understanding that because God is first in our lives, that they will never be neglected. We actually love them more, because we have the love of God in our hearts.



We have a high standard to live up to.

Only though the grace of Yeshua (Jesus), the Messiah, and the strength of the Holy Spirit can we achieve this goal.

For those who have not made a decision yet, consider the cost.

But also consider the rewards of eternal peace with God.

Eternal peace is not possible without repentance, forgiveness, and salvation through the shed blood of Jesus (Yeshua) who took our punishment on the cross, so that we could have eternal life, if we would only accept his sacrifice for us.

I hope you make the right decision.

122 Responses to “Consider the Cost”

  1. I pray for the grace of God upon me that my mind should be wide open to understand his word and let the word of God be a source of nutrition to my body, blood and soul, Amen

  2. It goes beyond forsaking everything; it also involves being where Jesus needs you for His work, doing what He has specifically mandated you for. Don’t take a purse or luggage. When you get there, announce His peace. When you are shunned, leave and kick the dust off your feet. Most importantly, obey Him exactly and do not attempt to resolve any issue with human understanding, logic and means. In everything, ask HIM to show the way, as He has a specific plan needing specif situations, conditions and actions.

    Forsaking everything initially can be overwhelming but you will learn over time that leaving those things behind is a triviality. To remain faithful, be focused and never to quit is a different matter altogether. I can assure you that your faith will be tested in more ways than you could ever imagine.

    You will find what really matters in life and how counter-productive silly debates are. We need to incessantly pray, as prayer is a physical energy that produces literal results. It does not function in Wonderland but in the real world. We will see less of less ideal situations if people take up this light yoke and practice this gift instead of wasting time on watching TV, doing sports or whatever other idols we worship in these days.

    A life committed to the glory of Christ Jesus will never be wasted. Christianity needs to mature and get discernment. Our faith is weak, even powerless, because we worship the limp flesh on the cross instead of the resurrected, altered and glorified, sanctified Jesus. Be like Him, become blessed beyond recognition (John 20:14-16) and start executing His plan, not your own. Drive only one ambition: HIS. Do only one will, which is His, if you want to stand any chance of entering His kingdom. (Matt 7:21-23)

    Abdicate your ego and assume His authority as your only motivation.

    • Hello Oom Lungu!

      You said,

      “…It goes beyond forsaking everything; it also involves being where Jesus needs you for His work…”

      “WE” just discussed this in a Sunday service at the Church I’ve been attending these past few weeks! Thank You! As I now know this is God’s “way” of speaking to me.

      Take Care and God Bless!

      bobby wise

  3. Consider the cost. Being shunned, ousted and even persecuted is not easy and you will find most of the enemy activity to be from within Christianity. Bringing a message that differs from what Xians generally want to hear, will not be easy. Unbelievers generally are very easy to deal with. Muslims, for instance, are generally ready to seek God’s counsel. Christians follow their own logic, their own understanding, almost without exception. This is a huge problem as we, supposedly the only true religion, exclude God from our decision-making and subsequent actions. We generally tend to do what seems right, or feels right. With good intentions, we still oppose Him in how we react to certain circumstances.

    This is not for sissies. Expect to be challenged.

  4. so true when you are of this world it seems to be going OK for you but when you give your life for Christ that’s when you have Satan coming at you fill force because you are no longer with him throwing every thing at you he can because he knows his time is short in hopes you don’t following Christ because isn’t worth it but what god gives let no man take a way but what Satan gives he for sure will take a way hell take away the most important thing your soul but following Christ you spend a life time with are lord

    • Satan doesn’t generally lose ground without a battle and there may very well be interlopers wanting to discourage, distract and distort truth. Kindly advise them to take the shortest route home. Hell.

  5. We are to count the cost of following Jesus, but there will never be enough time in eternity to consider the magnitude of the loss for having rejected him!

    Another important lesson in God’s economy…More of the same digestible seasoned meat, please Marianne! (if you have the thyme!) 🙂


    • hi richard

      well, here in the USA, it is the “season” for meat, especially turkey, which will be slow cooked for the Thanksgiving holiday. Good meat to gobble up.

      • Well, here in God’s Kingdom our thanksgiving takes place unconditionally, un imposed, and from the heart, year round; (no pagan observances required); thus turkey year round for all who have profited by counting the cost…but it won’t be without a season of “cold turkey” in the process of being set free!!

  6. Excellent Post! Amen!

    This leads me to reply with the wisdom and writing of Dietrich Bonhoeffer.

    “Cheap grace is the preaching of forgiveness without requiring repentance, baptism without church discipline, Communion without confession, absolution without personal confession. Cheap grace is grace without discipleship, grace without the cross, grace without Jesus Christ, living and incarnate.” – from his writing in Costly Grace

    ” Such grace is costly because it call us to follow, and it is grace because it calls us to follow Jesus Christ It is costly because it costs a man his life, and it is grace because it gives a man the only true life. It is costly because it condemns sin, and grace because it justifies the sinner. Above all, it is costly because it cost the life of his Son: “ye were brought with a price,” and what has cost God much cannot be cheap for us. Above all it is grace because God did not reckon his Son too dear a price to pay for our life, but delivered him up for us. Costly grace is the Incarnation of God.”- from Costly Grace

    Concerning Christ’s command to cut off the hand and gouge out the eye that causes one to sin, “Surely, at this point we must make up our minds once and for all whether Jesus means his precepts to be taken literally or only figuratively, for here it is a matter of life or death… Jesus does not impose intolerable restriction on his disciples, he does not forbid them to look at anything, but bids them look on him.” – from his book, Cost of Discipleship


  7. Bobby, you truly are Wise!

    Like Peter, I was taken to places and circumstances that were not preferable. Still, I am where He wants me. It is rather difficult being under this dysfunctional roof, but I am living here to be observed by some who come and go. It is a communal home where the vices of this earth are aplenty.

    Before I came to this place, there were 36 desert trek stations, all of which were rather challenging. We lost everything, became exploited, abused, assaulted and worse.

    The clue is found in Rom 12:2. Choose the good and you won’t sacrifice much. Choose commendable and you will need to readjust. Choose to do His perfect will and have little or no leeway, go where you don’t like it, perhaps also lose everything and be given tasks that nobody wants to do. Mine was to test the hearts of some believers as in Jer 6:27. Another was to go around in abject poverty, posing as a ”naked prophet.”

    Serving our Lord surely poses its own version of adventure. Don’t volunteer unless you really are prepared to sacrifice everything and more.

    Don’t say I didn’t warn…… 🙂

  8. Yes, following Jesus can be very challenging & life may seem hard as “seen” here on earth. Satan knows his destiny & isn’t going down w/o a fierce fight! Makes me think of Luke 10:18-19, ” And He said to them, “I saw satan fall like lightening from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents & scorpions, & over all the power the enemy, & nothing shall by any means hurt you.” God gives us His authority! He gives us promises of protection! Ps. 91:1-1-4, “He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty. .2, I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge & my fortress; my God, in Him I will trust.” 3, Surely, He will deliver you from the snare of the fowler & from perilous pestilence. 4, He shall cover you with His feathers & under His wings you shall take refuge; His truth shall be your shield & buckler, etc…15, He shall call upon me & I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him & honor him”….thank you Lord!!

  9. Yes Elle..Thanks!….Love, mercy, justice loyalty, hope, security, deliverance and salvation, personifies our perfect Heavenly Father…and if He should be for us, then who can be against us, making victory a certainty for all who seek Him in spirit and in truth, with thanksgiving and gratitude; and with the disposition of a faithful, innocent and trusting child, because we know that it is those who are pure in heart that will truly see God (Matt 5:8). A long and winding road for most of us; but if we truly follow the footsteps that preceded us, we cannot fail, because those steps have quenched the fire to make the way clear to life.

    Bless you!

  10. Proverbs 16:7
    When a man’s ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

  11. I think it means all is G-d’s to give, or take away. Like Job, we are to keep our pie hole shut when we suffer. We can only live a pious life.

    G-d knows what we need, and he will provide for it if we humble ourselves, and remember G-d loved us so much he died so we can live. G-d has earned our love, and respect. So, we repent, and move forward becoming a servent of G-d.

    In Christ name.

    • Yes, I have seen in my own life how various paid-for Mercedes and a comfy home can be lost within a minute or how somebody else’s inheritance becomes mine because of a comma at the wrong place in a will. We should never tie material things to us nether be tied to it. The same goes for friends and family. God had pruned away all we had and promised us a new family. Iron and clay don’t mix.

  12. “WOW, DJ!!!”

    You know…if you are “walking with Christ”…it is easy to hear the Lord speaking to you…right!

    What you “just” wrote about…IS THE EXACT SITUATION I AM IN “RIGHT NOW!”

    Four weeks ago…no job, no money, no home, no income at all, AND, no where to go…

    I stayed in my home that has been “red-tagged” and could have been arrested if I had been caught. I “knew” I could not stay there again and found a “bed” in a “Christian Men’s Home” away from ALL my family. This is the first time in my life to be in this “type” of situation.

    I have been here for four weeks now…and “our” Lord God speaks to me every day! I AM WHERE I AM SUPPOSED TO BE!

    pretty cool!!! Thank You so very much for your words as they really “hit-home!”

    Take Care and God Bless!


    bobby wise

    • wow, bobby. I did not know.

      I pray the Lord continues to provide for you.

      May he keep you under his wings, and keep you safe and secure.

      • Bobby, I have also been doing this for some thirteen years now and I can assure you that one later learns to accept all circumstances right down to your bone marrow, not just with the mind. When I became disabled, we lost whatever we owned, ended up on the pavement – literally – and I stood with my family outside, our few belongings at our feet and well past sunset more than once. He dumped is in situations to test those around us; yet not in a general sense but rather specific people who were false in some way or another. There was the pastor with his fake PhD who defrauded South Africans through various illegal pursuits including grand theft, derrauding people for large donations by fraudulently using another NGO’s registration details, he and his wife ran a fake nursing college. She posed as a clinical psychologist. I realized something was amiss when he stated that Martin Luther King Junior started the reformation. South African Police have been searching for him for a long time, yet this man had ME arrested upon false charges – which came to nothing, of course.

        Then there was this satanist pastor who even today enjoys celeb status at a cape Town Christian radio station. No wonder that same radio station also promotes the implantation of the microchip and also incited violent conduct amongs our youth, to create a riot. Yes, you read right here; one gets to deal with rather unconventional things. Now compare this to your knowledge of Scripture and suggestions of how to be a Christian. The difference is striking!

    • B Wise,

      The Lord IS with you. What is coming upon (read John 2 – water into wine – then Joel 2:23-24), will fill you with Joy!

      Stay humble and hungry for the Bread of Life.

      Psalms 20

    • I do hope, Bobby, that someone with sufficient material resources reaches out to you as the Holy Spirit directs. As for now, I am barely better off than you but I think that your situation is more critical. It could be a time where others are being tested through you, as was the case with me in terms of Jeremiah 6:27 and 1 John 3 v 17. Amazingly, it always were the less affluent who contributed – I guess that account Up There is lined with blessings into eternity.

  13. Hi Richard, You are welcome, blessings to you & amen!! It is comforting to know we are all in this together…Thank you Marianne, for all you do to bring God’s word to us & the fellowship we share. A few of my favorite verses, about the light in these dark to darkest days, Isaiah 45:3, “I will give you the treasures of darkness & hidden riches of secret places, that you may know that I, the Lord, who call you by your name, am the God of Isreal”…7, “I form the light & create the darkness, I make peace & create calamity, I, the Lord do ALL these things.” 8, “Rain down, you heavens, from above, & let the skies pour down righteousness. Let the earth open, let them bring forth salvation, & let righteousness spring up together. I, the Lord have created it.”… Is that not awesome?! Praise & thankfulness to the Lord, that His word does not return to Him void….blessings & peace!

    • The important bit is that the practical application and not just the knowledge of Scripture is what really matters. I don’t classify you as armchair Christians at all; my observation here is just a general comment applicable to every believer upon earth. Many believe concepts without any of this deep knowledge ever reaching hands and feet as a motivational force.

  14. Hi Bobby, I am praying for you too…I have lost alot in my life, too. God just kept calling me closer & closer to Him.. In these perilous times, to come, HE needs strong, focused disciples, not distracted by earthly, cumbersome gains to maintain….not that the Lord does not want abundance & comforts for us, HE does, it’s just different now for many in the “army” of God. Bless you & I know you are a blessing to those who are with you….God’s Kingdom is OUR home!! Peace & blessings to you!

  15. .Dutch Uncle, Who are you directing this comment to?? You certainly don’t know me, is there anyone here that would benefit from such a comment?… It pleases God to recite His word & blessings will come from that unless it is “phony” ….

    • Bobby: living in a shelter will bring you to a very interesting mission field. You may find that some of them can recite the Bible from back to front yet they prefer to use drugs, etc. We have been living in a communal home for very long now. We wake up every monring with the need to earn so that we can pay rent by tonight. We have been here since April 21, 2009. Drifters came and left. They had their chance of hearing the gospel. They had made their choices. My wife have given a few basic stock to seel, enought to pay their rent, basic food and for buying new stock for the next day. Without exception, they blew the money and were helpless again literally overnight. I gave my last blanket to a regular drifter and suffered from the cold myself. He lost the blanket within less than 24 hours.

      People will come with wonderful stories and most will be lies. I found that many lie as people don’t believe the truth. So they adapt by telling lies and it works for them. I would advise against that as it is dishonest and outright manipulation. Rather go hungry.

      I also found derelicts who were wonderful children of our Lord, one of which was locked up in a mental asylum for very long just because he spoke Biblical truth. More were locked up for the very same reason; their “wrong” was to quote the Bible! I learned to have a deep distrust in psychiatry and psychology. Those people asses and diagnose spiritual matters as if it existed in the mental arena. Medicine should not assess what it does not understand. It is like asking a doctor to design a bridge.

      Other Christians I know also ended up on the streets and I can assure you that the faith community has no concern for them. These people are instruments testing their love for Him. Xianity in general fails the test as there usually are many conditions to comply with, open discrimination upon race, sex, nationality or whatever stereotyping gets the nod from the church councils. In my experience, organised street mission work here in Cape Town deny fellow brethren in need and waste all their energy and resources upon people who do not wish to be picked up. People who will drain the church’s resources yet won’t be prepared to lift a finger. Charity should begin at home but it doesn’t. The wilful exclusion of reborns in distress goes directly against the Word of God. There is much talk wherever I go but most overflow with knowledge without getting motivated by that same knowledge. I see it at our churches, at outreaches, at missions, etc. Xianity in general lacks application.

      A typical response is that people take it personal and become defensive. They do this because of immaturity, also because of being driven by their own ego. The most bitter hatred I ever came across was in church when pointing out a weak point in their ministry. Xians are very intolerant with criticism but day in and day out, we judge Muslims, Hindu’s, etc. Our Bible say we shouldn’t but to rather judge over our own. People dislike that Scripture, yet it is written in 1 Corinthians 5:9 ¶In my letter I said to you that you were not to keep company with those who go after the desires of the flesh; 10 But I had not in mind the sinners who are outside the church, or those who have a desire for and take the property of others, or those who give worship to images; for it is not possible to keep away from such people without going out of the world completely: 11 But the sense of my letter was that if a brother had the name of being one who went after the desires of the flesh, or had the desire for other people’s property, or was in the way of using violent language, or being the worse for drink, or took by force what was not his, you might not keep company with such a one, or take food with him. 12 For it is no business of mine to be judging those who are outside; but it is yours to be judging those who are among you; 13 As for those who are outside, God is their judge. So put away the evil man from among you.

      Follow the Holy Spirit and don’t become discouraged when you get opposed. The enemy within will come pecking at you. That is obedience to Satan usually coming from a spirit of religion. Remain focused and see the opportunity you have, which is rather unique. Your ministering to other will come natural and not as a carefully planned outreach. It is good when a church group congegate on the streets at night and minister to the world, but living amidst your mission field is so much more effective. You will be observed closely and you will be a witness when you aren’t even aware of it.

      Never lose hope, never lose faith and keep going, regardless. I have yet to find some Bible verses that says that “thy shalt quit” or “thy shalt worry.”

      I hope that this sober approach encourages.

    • Elle…A succinct supportive message in love emphasizing our Father’s power of deliverance is all that is normally required; and is sufficiently powerful in itself…which is what you do well; and most importantly, from the heart…Keep it going….Blessings……

  16. Marianne…yeah! And I mean that in a “Good Way!” The “city” tossed my Mom & I out of “our own house!” My Mom will be 91 in February. My Mom went to my sister’s…”one-bedroom apartment” (w/two cats, a “boyfriend” of 10 yrs & is no longer her “boyfriend” for the past 3 yrs)(but, still there!) that she hasn’t even “moved” the items I helped put in the apartment when she moved in 13 yrs ago.

    My sister and I had a “falling-out” a long time ago…so I was “left” to fend for myself…right. Well…that’s when I found out that the people i called “friends” …were ONLY “Good Time Friends!” Then I found this place where I am NOW! AND what a “Blessing” all of this has been for me!

    NOT ONLY do I “hear” our Lord speaking to me, but…I am NOW able to hear Him speaking to “other’s” and am able to “minister” to them…also! AND, some of them…even “listen!”

    My sister & I are once again “siblings!” YES…God works in “mysterious” ways, but…only for those that don’t believe. “I believe!!!” Therefore, I have never given up hope that things will turn out for the better. That is NOT to say that I had my “disheartening” moments of “despair” and such…for I DID!

    BUT, I’m still, “ONLY HUMAN!”…right! The point is…I didn’t STOP believing or Praying to God in the Name of Jesus Christ for “Thanks” for All He has given me and to continues to give. I have never “thought” that He would abandon me…no matter how “things” looked.

    AND then, it “hit” me! The simple “idea” that perhaps He had “abandoned” me? NO WAY! It was “ME” that had “abandoned” HIM! Since that moment…my life has started to turn around and is getting better everyday.

    Thank You for your Prayers, but truthfully…He “is” watching over me. I am the one that didn’t stay “vigilant” and stumbled off the “path!” So now I wake up and start the day with my “Thanks to God in the Name of Jesus for this Universe of ours BEFORE I begin MY day!”

    Take Care and God Bless!


    Bob Wise

    • where you are at now must be the assignment the Lord has for you.

      God can send us to a palace, to a workplace, to a prison, or to a homeless shelter.

      it i all in his plan for his glory

  17. Thank You, Elle! I appreciate everyone’s Prayers!

  18. Thank You, “Dutch Uncle!”

    I have been “Praying” for ALL the people of the African nations who are going through so “very much” turmoil and tribulations, and the Assyrian people who have to hide the “faith” in Jeus from everyone around them as “they” are in Islamic countries and will surely be put-to-death if they were to profess their faith in “public!” AND, to ALL the people of this world in similar situations as NO ONE should be homeless or hungry in “today’s world!”

    AND THEN…like Marianne said the other day, “…it seems…” like something is going to happen soon! (not exact wording, “My BAD!”)

    Then “we” have to remember what Jesus said, “…do not the birds in the sky know when to fly south?” (once again…not the exact words)

    Why then should “we” as human beings NOT know when it is time for Jesus to return?

    “WE” should know! It is a “feeling!” For those of “us” who believe and are keeping a “vigilance”…YES! WE should have a “feeling” and “know” that His time is near!

    “I, for ONE”…definitely have a “feeling!” I can “feel” HIS “presence” stronger than ever before and am making a concerted effort to follow ALL of the Teachings of Jesus Christ as much as possible so “when” He does come…I will NOT be caught…SLEEPING!

    Take Care and God Bless!


    • Thanx, Bobby.

      Some of our missionaries had to be inserted behind enemy lines in a SPECOPS kind of way. We used to plan these events with military precision yet the Holy Spirit was the ultimate guide. One foot forward at the wrong time could bring instant death. Eventually, our teams was caught and it was just His miraculous intervention that saved them from decapitation. This is the reality of living in countries where radicalism abounds. My own country is fast going into that direction and legislation is being passed to silence folks as we speak here. The time to tell the world is now, not tomorrow. A good friend in West Africa had to cancel all his email accounts as he was being spied upon by government officials who wanted to see him jailed or worse.

      A big thank you to all the Christian fools out there who saw Mandela freed and Marxism installed in South Africa. It had liitle to do with race but everything with Karl marx’s evil, which he started here in SA around 1850. Ever since, atheist communism was fighting true democracy. When we Afrikaners inherited apartheid from the British union government in 1948, we were never given enough time to work out a better deal than apartheid as Mandela’s predecessors as we as he and his friends ensured that no peace would come. Our country is falling apart and there is this hunger for power but no will to govern fairly and justly. We are now part of the BRICS thing which is Brazil, Russia, India and China with us in the same bed. The entire thing takes us into bondage under atheist rule.

      Anyone with vision for Africa: don’t drag your feet as opportunities get lesser and lesser every day. Prayers, like Bobby’s is waht move men and mountains. Thanks for that and may you be blessed for your diligence.

  19. Hi again, Dutch Uncle!

    Everything you wrote about the “communal”…IS TRUE! NO…my eyes are “wide open”…NOW!

    It is very easy to discern the good from the bad…and it is so much easier now for me to “minister” to those who have a chance to change their lives. AND, “IF”…”they” listen and hear the Lord…then “they” will “ask” for help from me or from “someone!” AT least I can say, “I tried!”

    And really, isn’t that what Jesus asked of us?

    Thank You for your encouraging words as I know they are not meant “just” for me!

    Take Care and God Bless…to ALL!

    AND “Dutch Uncle”…my Prayers will always be for you…also!

    • Thanks, Bobby.

      We have disabled people, sans bodily limbs, living in abject poverty on our streets. I went to the church community and was met withn the fires of hell. Babylon the Harlot is blocking the entrance to the New Jerusalem and breathing fire at teh true saints. So, by yesterday and from my rather compromised angle, I lodged formal complaints against national-, provincial- and municpal government as well as against the faith community for neglecting the disabled and for denying them their basic human rights as guaranteed in our constitution. I lodged this with the South African Human Rights Commission. After years of not being heard, officials now call me regularly and the wheels have started turning. Sometimes we need to be adamant, persistent and rigid in our approach, when being compliant hasn’t worked.

      Being brazen, foolhardy and rather stupidly courageous seems to be working: I am risking much even posting here but the truth needs to get out. Google “Nkandla” or “Nkandlagate” and see what comes up!

      Sometimes we need to make noise and do as Gideon, Jehosaphat and a few others did.🙂 But prayer first, always prayer first. Not in our own wisdom and power, but as He empowers us.

      Be blessed beyond recognition.

    • 😀 One night – and I am not ignorant – I woke up from the blood-chilling cries for help of a woman most definately being skinned alive. At first hesitated but the cries for help went more and more intense. As I have said, I am not ignorant but the Police did find it a matter of “domestic conversation” and a smiling lady telling them how proud she was of her man!

      I could shrink into the floor as I felt so stoooooooooped! 😀

      • horrible experience

        • My interesting life is easier than that of millions who have nowhere to worship other than right next to a beer hall where laughter and music are liud enough to wake the dead, where gangster fire shots at each other and where there is only a thin corrugated iron sheet between believer and the beer hall. Just think how privilegde we are if we live(d) in first world neighbourhoods.

  20. “I agree…100%!!!”

  21. Richard, Thank you! You are a kindrid soul…God’s word is His love letter to us in the nidst of our circumstances. He wants our heart, He alreadty knows our story!…Blessings always…Elle

    • Thank you Elle, and blessings to you always and beyond…We all have a story to tell, and some with perhaps more chapters and “adventure” than others, but what we should all have in common is the unifying joy the Lord affords each of us throughout the inevitable trials and tribulations we are all subject to in this dark and fallen world, whatever the nature of them, and the circumstances.

      Without joy, we have absolutely nothing, since this is the soothing balm for our fleshly afflictions and sufferings, and is eternal. Whether we be destitute, broken in heart, cast aside, imprisoned, or hungry, should we have joy, then afflictions of the flesh can in no way imprison, wound, or discourage us, because joy is boundless, and knows no loss or restrictions; and this is the light that is to shine before all men as a witness to the power and love of the Lord.

      Who would we rather be; a “Solomon” with glory and wealth living for oneself without joy, bound to the flesh and broken to the core, or a “John” or “Paul” in fleshly bondage, but free in the Lord with joy, and complete? But despite their bondage, the Lord continued to use them!

      So where the Lord decides to place our joy before men, then the flesh will just have to lump it and tag along :)….and how gracious the Lord is to increase our joy proportionate to our “sufferings”, so we need never have any fear or sense of loss, since our perfect and just heavenly Father is forever our refuge, and gives every good gift to his faithful children!!

      Blessings to all!

  22. Solomon once said (Ecc. 12:1,5) that once you have no pleasure or desire for the things in the world, then are you ready to go to the kingdom of heaven.

    • hi mel

      I agree. from my own life, it seemed like whatever I wanted to hold onto, God took away from me. he saw that I could not have both the world and him. it took awhile for me to realized that he was helping me, not denying me.

      • A good point to be at is when you have His joy in your heart despite austerity or adversity, when nothing can subdue the bubbling fountain deep within you even when it does not necessarily show on your face. Being joyously content despite where or how you are otherwise, is a valuable achievement.

  23. ” A M E N ! ! ! ”


    You have put into words…EXACTLY…what I have been going through these past couple of months. It’s “almost” uncanny…how (for myself) many people on this website (in particular) are “hooking-up” and/or “relating” (are those the correct words???) to one another as never before!

    AND, while I say it’s “…uncanny…”, WE as Christians know this is simply the Lords Way! Is it really so, “mysterious or uncanny”, that we should relate to one another in these End Times! It IS as Marianne said recently, “…it FEELS…” like something is going to happen soon (or something to that nature). But of course, Christians SHOULD be able to “feel” the presence of Jesus when he is about to return us! Right?

    On the “news” these past couple of days…the “FBI” arrested some people “linked” to a terror plot. Do I accept this story…100%??? NO! As I believe it is “staged” to give the “dissidents” of this “Obozonation” false “HOPE” that the government is really in control and on “their” (the dissidents) side!

    I “Pray” to God, that the “in-roads” you have created over the years will come to “fruition”…soon!

    Take Care and God Bless as my Prayers ARE with you, always!

    bobby wise

    • true

      believers have a way of finding each other.

      we get tuned into the same wavelength, or in this case, website.

    • Jesus is only coming for a spotless bride. The Lord showed me this huge tree, something between a boabab and an oak, but with fresh, green leaves on its few short branches. The trunk is more boabab as are the branches; not many and short, but the trunk is tall and thick. The branches are more oak-like. Around the tree there is a white ring wall, about ten metres in diameter and about a metre high. Vagrants are in between the tree and the circular wall, where they soil the earth and brings a bad smell to it.

      I understand this to depict His kingdom, which is as old and mature as a 2,000 year old boabab. The small branches shows that there has been little growth but the leaves show that new life is blossoming; spring is here! Yet man brings filth into His holiness and make it smell bad.

      God is Love and love wants to share, so man was created. When He created, all was good. Man was in harmony with Him but chose to follow a different path, which is a deviation from the perfect, which is sin. Man was cast out of the known Paradise of the time, Eden. Only after man continued in making the wrong choices, did He introduce laws. Laws proved futile as none could keep these. Breaking one is breaking all.

      The wages of sin is death. Life is in the blood, thus blood has to be shed to redeem sin, or in fact death. Sin cannot redeem sin and there was a need for pure, sinless blood. So, as stated in Isaiah 9:6, God donned a human suit and came to pay the price Himself. God is Spirit so He required a body filled with sinless blood, which He provided. Few people understand the metaphor of Father and Son, the figurative speech. We get confused with an unbiblical trinity theory that never existed in the church of Acts, but entered church in Constantinople in AD284 by virtue of a Bisantyne monk who did so for political ends.

      OK, so we are where God paid for our sins Himself. Note how different Jesus looked after His resurrection; not even His most intimate friend recognized Him! Jesus tore the curtain, split the rocks and opened graves. He took away the need to tie a rope to a high priest’s ankle ever again. God just adopted an OPEN DOOR management policy and this is what Jesus meant when He said that “nobody comes to the Father but through Me.” Christians don’t understand this and make a whole new dogma out of that little great Truth.

      We have been rehabilitated from death sentence to innocent in the instant that His body died on the cross (or rather, tree trunk.) Restored legally to our sinless position, we now to walk in His presence as before. When the Spirit left His body, He cried His last words and ascended, leaving the dead flesh behind. Jesus went to sleep in the Old Testament and woke to the New.

      Our Bible therefore teaches that Jesus is Lord of the New Age. A new era had begun, one based upon relationship and favour, as is depicted in the oldest book in the Bible, that of Job. Like Job, through quite similar events spanning 27 years, I can see “my eye has seen the Lord.” In 2007, after yet another extreme traumatic series of persecutions by various churches, I one day cried out to Jesus and asked Him to reveal Himself for who He was. Many churches in Cape Town do today as they did five years ago, by teaching that Jesus is not God and that He is not even divine.

      During 2007 and 2008, He spent much time with me when I remained in seclusion. During this period, he proved to me that He was God and He did so through personal communications in the Spirit and surely not by me reading up in books or on the Internet. These spiritual meetings were later followed up by Him taking me through Scriptures, showing me the relevance of what He had been teaching me all along. This intimate 1:1 training season was concluded when I was led to do a little Bible course through WBS, where I found that the course material even agreed on who Jesus really is! I “graduated” on October 10, 2011. I was greatly blessed through WBS and would recommend it to anyone who is led by His Spirit to do it. (Gut feel is always wrong! Sadly, many don’t know the difference.)

      Here I am, baptised by fire over and again, went through my own visists to hell (some may call it church) and saw how fraud, money laundering, New World Order Agendas, Communism but also a host of other Kundalini, Yahbulon and other forms of worship soil His church on the inside. I have seen Jesus, I have seen Him as God, not by virtue of what another had written, nor by word of mouth but eye to eye over a period of many years. I have told my children that anyone daring to bury me from a church, will see me dragging them to court for slander. Babylon is a whore and I am no marsupial stuck in her adulterous belly. I obeyed Revelation 18:4 but even that was a process that had taken a decade. Our religion, you see, blinds us to His Truth.

      We need no rituals, no sacrifices, no religion other than being atoned with and attuned to our God who, like us, mind, body and spirit without having three different personalities. There is only One God who is the Holy Spirit and who appeared as Jesus whilst His character or attributes are best described in Isaiah 11:2.

      Only once we realise who Jesus truly is, can we be off on the tangent of Truth. Anything before that is having all the knowledge of fishing, even written books on it, got a PhD in marine biology but never been one mile outside the very centre of the rather arid Atacama desert! Never even saw an ocean or a lake, yet know all there is to know about fish! Or, like a strictly selibate monk advising a young couple upon sex in their marriage. Priests, the word was CELEBRATE!

      Celebrate union with our Lord in living aside for Him. My means to earn was stripped away from me despite my calling to make many milliosn for His people’s upkeep; but I first need to learn that it is not my sweat but His miraculous blessing that will bring this about. Presently, none of my business contacts are “active” and my year of jubilee will be over before Christmas, yet no cloudl on the horizon. What do I do? I wait patiently and keep myself busy teaching others the Truth about our Lord from a rather intimate and personal relationship. Even now, I spend most days in seclusion in what I call listening prayer. God speaks when we are silent and nature is at rest.

      Rest in the Lord. Lay your burden down as Robin Mark sings in his fanous Belfast Revival song. Jesus is no pickpocket and He won’t grab your burden unless you present it to Him. Oh, and DOES our Lord have a way to let law suits, financial debts, other burdens fade like the mist before the morning Son!

      Over time, I have lost my syrupy sweet religion and I now see the Truth for the Truth. Jesus Christ is Lord and He had proven it to me so many times that I can’t even keep track of the many instances. My message today is to sacrifice as per His request, declare yourself insolvent by legally transferring all your assets into His Name and follow the minute-to-minute guidance of His Spirit.

      Make sure that it is silent enough around and inside yourself to hear Him whisper softly in Love……………. Let the Holy Trinity Of Mind, Body and Spirit which He is also connect accordingly with your own minature as you resemble Him. Jesus is Lord of the Light (the only NEW thing I learned on my WBS course) and therefore, carry LIGHT into the world, if you want PEACE to rule your inner and outer environment.

      Discard the burdens of Babylon and assume your princehood in the Living Creator who is Jesus.

      —– Original Message —– From: Heaven Awaits To: Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 4:49 PM Subject: [New comment] Consider the Cost

      bobby90247 commented: “” A M E N ! ! ! ” Simply…INCREDIBLE! You have put into words…EXACTLY…what I have been going through these past couple of months. It’s “almost” uncanny…how (for myself) many people on this website (in particular) are “hooking-up” and”

    • Having grown up in an upper middle class, sophisticated home and neighbourhood and surrounded by achievers, some of international stature, our reduced standard of living brought about a new perspective upon life. Under a tree, in my little tent picthed in a sand pit, I woke up one morning with these words in my head: “Lord, how can I make Your day? What will please you today?” Ever since, my whole perspective upon my relationship with Him was changed. A diet necessarily existing of only black, bitter Rooibos tea, did not temper my spirit and JOY still filled my heart. And I thought: how many of my relatives, with posh homes, proffessional careers, large houses and holdiday homes, their own aircraft and boats and who go to the opera theatre for a thrill, had JOY? Was I poor? I guess not.

      My hope is to be united with a body of believers who really know Jesus as our Lord, who are free of religion but overflowing with His goodness. Free of nitpicking and fraud. Gossip was the most destructive forse I have ever witnessed and our churches thrive on it. I have seen marriages and careers ruined, families torn apart and people lose everything because of slanderers and gossips in church. No measure of fornication, adultery, substance abuse and “idol worship” such as materialism or the ball game was as rotten as the damage caused by gossip.

      I have witnessed the non-scientific increase of food at least three times in my life, heard Him the way Moses did and experienced a resurrection from the dead within my own family. I have seen how our church of Acts functioned two decades ago and it was phenomenal. Due to my nation having been strewn around the globe, diaspora ended this. The WWW brought a new way of connecting with people and these are the avenues now being explored.

      The potential is promising and I quite believe that the church of Acts may be alive almost entirely in cyberspace. We won’t worship the beast but ride it bareback on our way to “church”

  24. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 ….Was that a smile? :)……

  25. On a day, Jesu will appear and He will then only collect those restored to the true ‘church of Acts.” I hope that everyone here will be part of it. Each suburb of small city may have its own congregation but all will be part of just His true church on earth, with no divisive denominations. Like the early church and aspotles did.

    Some believe that this church is the one called Philadelphia in Revelation. Our Lord showed me that small groups will gather, ten here, twenty there, with many miles in between. Few people will become part of this as many will find it too radical to leave the babylonian system and remain in it and thus under its curse.

    Having experienced this true church of Acts kinda situation before, both here in Africa and also in the Pacific, I can strongly recommend it. It is a dynamic, love-laden sibling fellowship where people truly grow into each other. It is a blissful community and not merely a society.

    Hopefully, readers here will see the difference between Babylon and “Philadelphia” or rather “Acts.” Acts> so, lets ACT upon it, yes?

  26. Well said, Oom Lungu…but unfortunately, very few are prepared to discover what constitutes the true congregation of Christ–the true brethren whom Paul tirelessly instructed in the ways of our Saviour and the truth, which was later to be consumed by apostasy just as Paul affirmed….Since there never was a doctrinal reformation from the great apostasy ” Catholicism”, we now have this conglomerate of many thousands of “her” splinters, and thus counterfeit congregations each with a distinguishing title, born out of dissension, and collectively called “the church” and “body of Christ”, but is in fact, the harlot of Babylon, whom we have been warned to “get out of” …Our leader and teacher is first and foremost Jesus, and there can be no division in him, for a household divided cannot stand, hence the imminent demise of “Babylon”!!

    Rev. 18:1-9..

    And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.

    2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.

    4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

    5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

    6 Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.

    7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

    8 Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

    9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,


    • So true, Richard! Be careful as some might have links with Ivan the Impaler or may want to let you experience to feel what it means if “much is at stake.”😀 You are right, sadly””’but if man obeyed our Lord, none of this would have been necessary.

      • Thanks Dutch Uncle…but Iv’an infallible defence system that pales all threats into oblivion! 🙂 …May the Lord continue to be your refuge and sustenance throughout the extreme trials you are currently undergoing!

        Blessings to you!

        • Thanks, Richard, not to worry: I am gathering material for a book some time in future. For now, it allows me time with the Lord regardless of my environment.🙂

          • Dutch Uncle…I wish you every success with your book. No doubt it will be a no-nonsense affair; much needed in these times of literary fluff, and Biblical “poetic license”. Should it be your intention to publish for a profit, I may be able to help you with the marketing side, if you are not familiar with this area…Naturally, it will be wise to publish under a pseudonym…so how does “Amsterdam Aunty” sound? 🙂

            • Hi Richard….one can give it some thought. Diabetes: I also developed that along the way, an auto-immune disease of some sorts that the state doctors fresh from medical university cannot isolate with their limited budget for blood tests, etc. One’s food seems to get the body angry. I told the willowy girl acting as doctor that I will see her as suitably qualified if she can give me a full body transplan. I am choosey as well: a 20-year old male bod with a six-pack. I am willing to see this container I live in, as a substitute for that. it makes economical sense, but will she do it?

  27. Hi Richard, Well we know that’s very true!! BTW, are you still tending the “Gardens of Eden” ?!

    • Dear Elle,

      Would you Adam and Eve it; whilst working in the garden one day, a serpent slithered up behind me, took a bite, and pumped gallons of toxic glucose into my blood stream, thereby inducing Diabetes and some of it’s slimy offspring (won’t go into details), and together with the requisite medication, has rendered me physically depleted by most part, for the time being, although I am doing what I can; but am concurrently in the process of frantically trying to establish an online business, as contingency, or if I should be unable to re-kindle and maintain the necessary level of physical fitness required….But make no mistake, that serpent will sooner or later find itself wrapped around one of the Lord’s thorniest of rose bushes that I daren’t lay my hands on!…once my condition has stabilized!

      So it is that: “hanging on by a thread” moment, but as we both know, no matter how fine the thread should become, the Lord won’t allow it to be severed (remember🙂 ). So we hang on to that assurance.

      But what else can one do but sing:

      “Smile though your heart is aching, smile even though it’s breaking,
      when there are clouds in the sky, you’ll get by if you smile, through
      your pain and sorrow, smile and maybe tomorrow, you’ll see the sun come shining through” 🙂

      How are you coping with your Florence MonringDay&Nightingale duties?!

      Love and blessings to you!

      • richard

        I pray the Lord helps you keep this diabetes under control….even better that He would heal you. May the Lord bless you always.

        • That’s so gracious of you dear Marianne, thank you!..and may the blessings of the Lord be forever upon you also! 🙂

          Diabetes is a manageable condition, but is particularly obstructive to energy production, when advanced in years (57) 🙂 ; but my thoughts are with those subject to ongoing pain, such as yourself; so may the Lord heal you also, or at the very least, continue to be your “anodyne balm” according to His providence, and His promise to never let us take more than we can bear….Whatever the nature and degree of our sufferings, God will ensure that they prove fruitful in some way…so there’s no gain without pain, and no pain without gain in the Lord!

  28. Dear Richard, I didn’t know you were on the fine line as such..I am praying for strength & healing for you. Do you know anyone w/the gift of laying on hands? We know God heals in His own time, some little by little, some instantly & some not at all; the mystery!…The Florence Day & Nightengale jourmey is over! Thank you Lord! I am on my own, financially challenged @ times, sometimes more than others. But the Lord has provided faithfully…I am blessed w/amazing health, so far. I walk 3+miles in 50min, 3-4 times/week, some light workouts & stretching, etc…..God is good!…. please know you are in my prayers & angels are all around you, I cam see them! : ) ….peace, love & joy…ELLE

    • Dear Elle,

      I have decided that I would like to think of it as: “the refining line”…sounds more respectable! 🙂

      Thank you for your gracious words, and I would just like to say that I’m so sorry for the loss of your Mum..a difficult time for you, I’m sure, but also a happy release; and you have surely been blessed and rewarded for the great sacrifice you made caring for her for so long, under such difficult circumstances.

      Good is indeed good, and may your good health continue…3 miles in 50 mins…now you’re rubbing my nose in it! 🙂, but make no mistake, I’ll catch you up sooner than later! 🙂

      With regard to healing, I do believe, in these times, that this comes directly from God, through Jesus of course, so I give little or no credence to healing by any other means, despite the many claims and documented cases of such.
      The Holy Spirit is mightily powerful and can never fail, as was the case when the apostles were endowed with it, but this has not been evident since God demonstrated His power through them, with the purpose of establishing His congregation of New Covenant believers in Christ…I consider the many thousands of divided and dissenting denominations to not be the Body of Christ, so there is no spiritually credible channel for the works of the Spirit,
      I believe….But God certainly does heal, including sincere seeking individuals from within these groups, as all His works are providential in relation to us, according to our heart condition….but sooner or later, we must flee from the harlot of Babylon, as commanded…and those who truly wish to worship God in spirit and in truth, will.

      So you can see angels all around me…well that’s comforting to know; but I can’t see any around you!. Could that be because angels themselves don’t need protection?! 🙂

      You too are forever in my prayers, and may the Lord continue to richly bless you with Peace, Love, and Joy !!


  29. Hi Oom Lungu!

    Actually…being here in this “Christian Men’s Home” has placed me squarely on my feet and walking with Jesus…once again! SURE! I want to be back home taking care of my Mom in her last days once again…as I have been doing for the past 10 years. I “believe” I will be there with her soon and this time with an “income” of my own! NO…nothing on the horizon in that respect…but I “know” it will be coming when the time is “right!” NOT when I “think” it is TIME!

    I’m in a safe place, with food, with “most” of the comforts of home and I “Thank God!” for all that I have as I recognize the fact that I would be on a park bench or in jail!

    AND…for the most part…My MOM is Okay, also!

    NO…Oom Lungu…YOUR predicament IS much more critical by all means…as I “live” in America!

    Take Care and God Bless and “KNOW” that my Prayers are with you!


    Bob Wise

    • Hi Bob

      America? Before I had knowledge of all the crooked things happening there, your exemplary patriotic nation being led to the gallows by a “govt within a govt” that we can see clearly from a distance, I’d thought that you were better off. Crime and corruption is as rife on your side of the pond as it is in South Africa. I must agree that most other countries on the continent may be less ideal. America: a place I surely wish to visit for its natural beauty, historical places and “tasting real American life” by cruising the back roads and mixing with locals, far from cosmopolitan areas. I’m no mall rat but more of a lone wolf.

      South Africa? Isaiah 18, Matt 24 and Rev 12 show in this direction for the “church of Acts” to be restored to the “wilderness” during the tribulation. I was shown to travel and gather small flocks and bring them here. Time is not right yet as the Lord will need to purge the nation’s rebellious first; and humble some others. Boy, do they have adventure awaiting them!

  30. Hi again, Oom Lungu!

    It is amazing “…on the OTHER side of the world…” you have described “basically” a similar situation as the one I am in…coming from the same neighborhood with similar friends…”wondering” the same things!”

    I absolutely love this website and Marianne Tioran & Family and the people on this blog here! There is one other blog I subscribe too along with Marianne (i believe?) and several others called, “Creeping Sharia” which brings attention to the atrocities of Muslims and the idolatrous politicians of the U.S.

    The “other” website that I am proud to be associated with is “Proof Directory” as “they” use the Holy Scriptures to “interpret” the Holy Scriptures and do NOT use and/or adhere to any man-made religions.

    It seems…”we”…along with other’s are on the same path, with…Jesus!

    I would be “honored” to call you, “my friend!”

    Take Care and God Bless!


    Bob Wise

    • Most welcome, friend Bobby! I live smack in between a Muslim community and a Jewish one, we in the middle are more cosmopolitan and as “international and social” as LA. one of the things in my ‘hood is which is the most visited venue in all of Africa. Here you get folks driving Maserati, Bentley, Rollers, Range Rover and Geländewagen while others push stolen Woolworths trolleys. Literally, prince and pauper live side by side.

      Strangely, our Muslims here make better citizens than most and they work with and support Christian NGO’s. They have reverence for God which is absent from our Hollywood Christianity. As for websites, I have little access but like being here. There was a time I was still too traumatized by the series of assaults from church and it took me at the very least three years to get healing. I used to use more sophisticated and even pious language, quoted Scripture but later reverted to being as forthright and abrasive as Jesus and Paul were. Neither were diplomatic and Paul, in his own words, was a “man of rude speech.” I’m like an Englishman in New York when it comes to being among church people and as misplaced as a US Pathfinder operator in the UN Assembly.

      The one thing central in my life, which also is my message to deliver to the world, is to become perfect in obeying His exact will. He will add or take away as He pleases, so that we have what we need to get the job done. God’s “feng shui” works a bit different – He just removes clutter.

      Obedience, doing God’s will, is something central in even animist belief here in Africa but absent from church despite Matthew 7:21-23′ The gospel rendered by Jesus differs from what reverends, pastors and priests sell from the pulpits.

      21 Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of Heaven; but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will tell me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, in your name cast out demons, and in your name do many mighty works?’ 23 Then I will tell them, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who work iniquity.’ Matthew 7:21-23 (World English Bible)

  31. Dutch,

    I am in agreement with almost all that you post. If I said “all”‘then I would be lying and that I do not want to do.

    I pray for and with you, encouraging you to be remain faithful to the Word and the Word that was made flesh that dwelt among men (John 1 and  John 1:1-8).

    Psalm 1 and 37 are for you.

    Isaiah 65:8-16 is for you (servant). Just as these verses from Hebrews chapter 3.

    “Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus, who was faithful to Him who appointed Him, as Moses also was faithful in all His house. For this One has been counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as He who built the house has more honor than the house. For every house is built by someone, but He who built all things is God. And Moses indeed was faithful in all His house as a servant, for a testimony of those things which would be spoken afterward, but Christ as a Son over His own house, whose house we are if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm to the end.”

    Dutch Uncle – Continue your walk as you are a faithful servant of the Lord.

    To others reading this post, as written by the author of Hebrews:

    “Therefore, as the Holy Spirit says: “Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion, in the day of trial in the wilderness, where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, and  saw My works forty years.

    Therefore I was angry with that generation ( He is also angry with this “fig tree generation” too), and said, ‘They always go astray in their heart, and they have not known My ways.’  So I swore in My wrath,‘They shall not enter My rest’ (this is the Millennium rest beginning in a few short years). 

    Beware, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief in departing from the living God; but exhort one another daily, while it is called “Today,” lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin. 

    For we have become partakers of Christ if we hold the beginning of our confidence steadfast to the end, while it is said: “Today, if you will hear His voice, do not harden your hearts as in the rebellion.” 

    Get wise virgins.


    • DJ, thanks. Those Scriptures especially Psalms 1 & 37 have walked with me for decades now and their “feet” are as cracked as mine from the long, dusty walk. Hardening one’s heart is not the same as being forthright. Hardening of the heart is becoming devoid of love, becoming unteachable and becoming unwilling to serve.

      There is much false love in being pious, or in being syrupy, as time had proven over and again that some of the worst assasins of true saints do so with polished words that slip effortlessly off their tongues, sounding sweet but nonetheless from an unloving heart that is suspended by a strong ego. Politeness and religious licence is not love, neither is coddling. Love is to be trustworthy and reliable, to be prepared to die for another, to see another excel at the cost of the self.

      The rosy fragrance in some church circles, my dear friend, is fake aerosol that may drive out the foul smell but it will never remove the cause of that same smell. Discernment comes with experience and I can assure you that I have learnt to be very skeptical and even suspicious of overtly polite people. USA & Canada are both in a death spiral because people are too polite to offend. Seeing things go wrong and not acting against it, is akin to hardening of the heart as complacency never won a battle for our Lord.

      We have to stand up for the Truth, otherwise we are liars ourselves. It takes around a hundred metric tonnes of overburden to find a two carat gem quality diamond. Gideon also found the same principle, Solomon echioed it, Jesus was decidedly unimpressed when 3,000 decided to follow Him as he knew how man’s heart is in Him.

      Being sober and having discernment is not hardening of the heart.

      Complacency is sin. I hope that this explains me better.😀

      • Brother Dutch,

        We are 99.9% in agreement.🙂

        Your book will be a testimony of your walk and read by thousands in the days of God’s rest.

        There are a few of us given this heart felt assignment (for a reason).

        Blessings to you!
        Psalm 20

  32. Do you comprehend the precious  Blood shed for you, graciously giving to you all the riches that are  in (relationship with), Christ the Lord?

    Get wise Virgins. 

    We are to fellowship with Him and one another (“wise virgins/children in the light”).

    “This is the message which we have heard from Him and declare to you, that God is light and in Him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ His Son cleanses us from all sin” (1st John 1:5-7).

    The Apostles likewise spoke of “children of darkness” and “children of light” (Eph. 5:8; Col. 1:13, 1 Thess. 5:5, etc.). The children of light are called to be am kadosh – a holy people – separate from the evil engendered by the fallen world and its forces, just as the very first creative expression of God was the separation of light from darkness (Gen. 1:3-4). The children of light “hate evil and love the good,” and conversely, the children of darkness “hate the good and love evil” (Psalm 34:21, Prov. 8:13, Amos 5:15).

    “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us” (1st John 1:5-10, NKJV).

    Are you walking in the Light?

    The cry will be heard is a matter of weeks, then you will see (Matthew 24:15-22).

    Prepare your vessel with prayer and fasting, reading the Word. 

    Feast on the Bread of Life this weekend and in the days ahead.

    • How can anyone serve the Light without knowing who the Light is?

      How can anyone follow the Truth without knowing the essential Truth?

      In my country, 80% of the population is Christian but more than 60% of the 80% vote for atheist Marxism.

      And in another country, we just saw a huge (s)election rigged by people calling themselves Christian. Electile dysfunction is not a curable condition. Its effects are called Democrazy. A system built upon division and therefore not in tune with our Lord.

      I grew up with the teaching that God somehows is/are three individual persons. All believe in the Son of God but some see Him as Divine whilst other Christians just see Him as a prophet who happened to die on a cross. We don’t understand that there is metpahoric speech, the figurative, at work but take things literal. Eventually, we follow the beliefs of a stray, derailed monk and make his false teachings gospel. In other words, our entire faith then is based upon a lie. Jesus – the flesh – never claimed to be God but the same Jesus – when in the Spirit – asserted to be God. People fail to see the difference between the body and the spirit; therefore, His claims confuse them.

      Once Jesus Himself showed me that there is but One God with many attributes and functions, or majesties, or ministries, I started experiencing and enjoying a fuller relationship with Him. It helps to know your Partner rather well.

      I am careful to make claims about time but I do know what has to happen where I live. It is in progress already as its started on January 5, 2011 – which to some is the end of Daniel’s 70 weeks, or so some say. The timing factor is not my concern but rather the events predicted are more important. The only reality to me is Christ Jesus. Even matter is just empty little things made up of electrically charged fields. It behaves according to His instruction – the “DNA of Creation” as I call it. Matter does not matter except Jesus our Everlasting Father and Creator, who has all the values and attributes we know as the Holy Spirit as seen in Isaiah 9:6.

      When we are reborn, we get His identity and His Spirit in us. Our minds then need to be renewed as we see in Romans 12:2 but, if we do not allow that, we do not become like Him. Jesus was friendly to sinners, He ate with tax collectors and prostitutes but more than once caused a stir in church. There He was much less tolerant, to the point that He even slandered it as a den of vipers. Our churches keep people from entering His kingdom due to its unbiblical teachings, rituals and traditions. The most polite and genteel verbal arrows aimed at the heart of others may be poison-tipped despite its beautiful chromed shafts and colourful feathers ate the rear.

      One hast to be forthright and open, honest and never hide meanings. Someone thought that I was aiming something at him/her even when I stated pertinently that I was speaking in general. The situation is that people sometimes take offence because they may secretly be guilty, or are used to hint at others themselves, etc. My father grew up in a region in South Africa where one never says what you mean. If I then show up there and tell someone that I like his car, he will think that I want it for myself. He will immediately start distrusting me as he will see me as being jealous of him. Meanwhile, I just love great cars! Therefore, honesty is the golden rule. If I don’t like what you are saying, I will tell you so. Sadly we cannot converse privately here and differences cannot be settled without everyone seeing it.

      What lies in the future has been confirmed to be tough times. True believers in the USA are in for a rough ride, so are the Canadians but also as far down as Argentina. Why the Lord only also showed Europe & Africa, not the Middle East, Asia or Oceania, I don’t know. Surely there are true believers in Petrh, Sydney, Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch? Fiji, Samoa, Rarotonga?

      Yes, let us bask in the Sonlight as He is also called The Lord of the Lights!

      • Amen Brother Dutch.

        Those nations (cultures of Babylon/Egypt and “the world/beast”), are going to feel the economic pain of Leviathan (pride), pulled out of the sea/rivers (Isaiah 27:1-2). The spirit of liberty is about to be removed too. Then, those that vote as members of the political “Christian Party” will know their god is in politics.

        The wayward and rebellious church (Ephraim) is also going to experience and know the wrath of God – moving them to repent, I pray. (Isaiah 28).    

        “Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. ‘Not a root or a branch will be left to them. But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. 

        Then you (servants of Isaiah 65 and the Lord’s Army of Joel 2:2-11), will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,’ says the Lord Almighty” (Malachi 4:1-3).

        The Good Shepherd gave us a promise to provide, meet our (servants as in Isaiah 65), basic needs, sustaining the elect during the Great Tribulation. 

        “… and lo, I am with you always, even until the end of the age” (Matthew 28:20). The end of the age is upon us – the coffee is brewing, thank you Lord.

        He will then reward those who “hold fast” and “overcome” (2 Timothy 2:11-13 and Rev 12:11) until His return, when He gathers us up to meet Him.

        This is list of what He gives to His trusted servants from Revelation:

        “I will grant to eat [of the fruit] of the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God.

        I will give you the crown of life…[and] shall not be hurt by the second death.

        I will give to eat of the manna that is hidden, and I will give him a white stone with a new name engraved on the stone, which no one knows or understands except he who receives it.

        I will give him authority and power over the nations; and he shall rule them with a scepter (rod) of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, and [his power over them shall be] like that which I Myself have received from My Father; and I will give him the Morning Star.

        I will not erase or blot out his name from the Book of Life; I will acknowledge him [as Mine] and I will confess his name openly before My Father and before His angels.

        I will make him a pillar in the sanctuary of My God; he shall never be put out of it or go out of it, and I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the new Jerusalem, which descends from My God out of heaven, and My own new name.

        I will grant him to sit beside Me on My throne, as I Myself overcame (was victorious) and sat down beside My Father on His throne” (Rev 2-3, Amplified Bible translation).

        Blessings to you Brother Dutch and your reading of Scriptures.

        • Look what we are facing from people from the same descent, race, culture and religious orientation. This was posted elsewhere on Heavenawaits but read it here. The piece above was posted on the Internet and I have asked the South African Human Rights Commission for reviewing this as I regard it as divisive hate speech. The author denies we Afrikaners our very right to existence and regard us as the product of Satanic manipulation. In other words, we are being marginalized and compromised from all sides. We are a hopelessly small minority.

          It just shows in which forms the oppression and tribulation is coming. Ps 119:65-73 rings true. No smooth passage here!

          • Yes Brother Dutch, but do not fret (Psalm 37:7-11). Yet, the whole Psalm speaks to the issue/problem and His plans.

            I love Psalm 199!

            Psalm 119:108-112.

            Psalm 119:133-136.

            Psalm 119:137-144.


  33. Trust me…”we” see the corruption here in America also! WE see it first-hand as these corrupt “officials” (as they call themselves…especially “Obozo”), are now “blatantly” shoving thing in our face with no excuses! They can do these things as the “media” is part of it and distracts the general public away from their dirty deeds!

    Those of us that grew-up with “Patriotism” for our country have passed-on those values to “our” children. Unfortunately, the schools here in America “stopped” teaching these values in schools and therefore the “majority” of Americans have no idea of the principles and values this country actually “stands for!”

    YES…it is a, very, sad “State of Affairs!” BUT, as Jesus said, “…all these things must come to pass before I return…” (paraphrased)!

    Take Care and God Bless!

  34. Hi Dutch Uncle!

    “WOW!” Prince and pauper…side-by-side? Hmmmm…just like America!

    ALL our man-made religions “sell-from-the-pulpits!”

    Which is why I simply tell people, “I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ!”

    Oh! I stumble quite a bit as ONLY Jesus IS “Perfect!”

    Your verses are so TRUE!

    It’s been quite an eye-opener these last few correspondences we’ve had here on this website ‘tween those of us who can relate to one another! It is “clear” NOW…that WE are all facing and fighting the same “demonic” SATAN!

    As recent as 10 – 15 years ago…I don’t “think” any of us could possibly imagine we would all have these same tribulations and circumstances in the same MANNER as we ACTUALLY DO! Thee ONLY difference…is location!


    Exactly what it is…I have no idea! BUT, as we have discussed “openly” on your forum and other’s…SOMETHING…is certainly coming soon!

    Hopefully…it will be what the Mayan Calendar has “prophesied”,

    “…that we (the Human Race) will be RAISED to the next level of consciousness!”

    WHICH…btw…is “essentially” what Jesus says!

    Take Care and God Bless, ALL my brothers and sisters as we are truly one family in Christ here on Earth!

  35. YES, Dutch Uncle! What you are referring to is, “Politically Correct!”

    which is such a “Fraudulent Term!” In this, “day & age”, when has any “Politician” ever been correct? Very few!

    • Suffering affords us the wonderful privilege to have a proper understanding of the challenges, fears, pain and feelings of insecurity and anxiety others may be experiencing when they are still uniniated in that particular area of their lives. When I was still driving two Mercedes, I used to fill up the trunks with food parcels for needy brethren at church. I have always been helping people since I was a little kid. However, when someone dropped a hamper of groceries in front of my door and ran off in the darkness, I knew how much I hurt others in the past. The parcel at the door told me that they knew I was hungry but they did not want to be with my family and I. We can sometimes be very unloving when we don’t understand another person’s feelings and circumstances. In rebuilding the temple, being sensitive to the needs of others is so important.

      Way back in the late 1980’s to around 1992 when my job took me to a new base a thousand miles away, we would meet on some week evenings at someone’s home. We would praye well in advance, asking the Lord to show us how to best minister His love to someone with a secret need or desire. This brought us very close together and we also demonstrated that the Lord even will let moles rather cross underneath the street to burros underneath someone else’s garden, if you would be prepared to entrust Him also with trivialities.

      One of my friends broke into the home of a very needy but proud pastor and filled up both his fridge and his chest freezer in his absence.

      Our suffering always have the potential of inspiring growth, if we allow it to. My parents are both still alive so I can feel sorry for someone who had lost a parent, but how will I know what it really feels like? Experiences in life sometimes may not be fun, it sometimes may carve new lines on our faces but be can minister so much better to others through having foregone down that path first.

      So we thank our Lord in all circumstance.🙂

  36. “WE” certainly DO! Don’t we! A very Happy Thanksgiving to everyone as we Thank God for ALL that we have.

    Thank you for all your words…as they have ALL hit a “chord” with me in my personal life in “almost” the same way you have experienced them in “your” life!

    Take Care, my “friend”, and God Bless!

    bobby wise

  37. “Well put, Richard…and a very Happy Thanksgiving to you!”

    • I hope that your thanksigiving was good?

      While in the bathroom this morning, I remembered about Black Friday tradition in the USA, but did not realize that it follows directly upon Thanksgiving. Great was my surprise that I learned in a local paper that it, as from today, is now also being “celebrated” in South African retail.

  38. Dear Richard, Thank you for your sympathy re:my mum. It was her time & she didn’t suffer. It was horrendously difficult w/my unhelpful siblings. I couldn’t leave the house at all most 24hr periods, for months, not even for a walk…so, yes, the Lord has rewarded me & I am so thankful. And, you WILL catch up, that’s why I mentioned it!! The Lord has a plan for you, as .you know! In regards to healing, I agree, the Lord is my everything too, but I never limit the possibilities of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, proclaimed biblically.. Yes, there are more phonies than not & one must be able to discern the spirits, we can leave it at that!! If you believe for recovery/healing, than so be it!! The blessings of faith are where it’s at.. Ha! there you go again, mistaken me for an angel!!!…actually, that is very sweet. I know you can be empowered to make that thread a 3 corded rope of strength & victory, God wants the glory!…love & light to you…Elle

    • Elle,

      You could be right…I am presently experiencing heavenly white floaters so it is likely that my brain is associating these with your name, hence angelle 🙂, but anyway, regarding healing and the works of the Spirit, of course you are right, so I should clarify what I said by saying: God performs all His works by means of His Spirit through Jesus, so naturally it is His Spirit that ultimately effects healing and other fruits. However, I question the integrity of claims by those who deem themselves to be vessels whom the Spirit is allegedly working through, simply because of the infrequency and oftentimes inconclusivity of results, which is not representative of infallibility and the scale of activity that should be evident if God surely purposed His great power to be abundantly displayed in theses times ….but there can be no doubt that faith is a prerequisite for healing, either through supplication to God for self, or for others.

      God knows our needs before we ask, but He delights in being a trusted Father, so we must ask Him in faith, if we are to satisfy His paternal longing to bestow every good gift to His children, who by their very nature are dependents….just like putting food down for your cat or dog…how pleasing is it when you fully meet their total trust and dependence on you?…there’s so much more joy in giving…..that’s our heavenly Father.

      A single thread into a three corded rope…o.k…got it after 2 hours of supplication….Having received the single thread of predetermined length from the Lord; fold it 3 times, twist it 3 times and continually apply even layers of faith until the required diametric strength had been achieved…so now it is just a question of awaiting God’s plan for it’s victorious purpose…..about right? 🙂

      Bless you!

  39. Richard, want to maje a correction. what I meant to say was not only could I not leave the house for 24hr periods but that would last 4-5dys…remember the pictures of my front yard, the beach & the sea, the glorious creations of God in all those ancient rock formations & wild life, etc.. hearts & crosses in the sand!..You know that’s where I walked w/Jesus almost all my life…then, I could only see it, was hard…..But Jesus was still w/ one, nothing, can ever seperate us from Him…..blessings!!

    • Yes Elle….I remember every detail of your beautiful environment, but you were effectively a prisoner in paradise, but nevertheless free in Jesus, and that’s the best we can hope for in this beautiful, but alas, dark and fallen world.
      To be free in the Lord is everything, particularly when one lives on such a grey, dismal and spiritually dead and decadent canvas such as London🙂, but let’s count our blessings wherever we may be, because there’s always somewhere worse; but what the heck, we’ll all be where we belong in paradise
      soon anyway…but I suspect that I may just appreciate it a little more than you on arrival!!….Blessings to you in silver sand and palm tree land..and the rest!!🙂

  40. Hi Richard!

    You are so right when you say this:

    “…With regard to healing, I do believe, in these times, that this comes directly from God, through Jesus of course, so I give little or no credence to healing by any other means, despite the many claims and documented cases of such…”

    “IF”…anyone can “…lay their hands on and heal…” as Jesus and His Apostles DID…”they”…would NOT make it “public knowledge!” period

    For if they did…”they” would NOT be doing the work of Jesus.

    “Laying on of the hands” is a “private” matter with God…NOT the world!

    NOW! Please do not get upset with what I have said…as it is only my “understanding” on this subject, and…I am NO expert by any means! However, Jesus would heal a person and tell them to NOT speak of it…right?

    After all…IF everyone here on this website were to “Pray” with all their beliefs for someone in “ill health”…and they were “healed!” WE would say that “our” Prayers were heard by God and He “healed” them…right? RIGHT!

    However…what happens if that person “dies” anyway? Then we would say it is God’s Will that be done! OR…other’s would say that the “Prayers” simply didn’t work!

    How we deal with the adversities we face in this life…prepares our soul for Heaven…as His Will be done whether someone is “healed” or NOT!

    I don’t know if I explained it correctly, but…like you said, “…With regard to healing, I do believe, in these times, that this comes directly from God, through Jesus…” and I completely agree!

    Take Care and God Bless!

  41. Bobby, that is not scriptural or biblical that if a person did heal someone that Jesus would tell them not to say anything. Also, the gift of healing is given, to some, the gift of prophesy, to some,. gift of tongues, to some, as the scripture goes…there are specific scriptures for these things. It maybe beyond your understanding, but God’s word confirms what I have said…I am well versed & do not have the time to make erroneous claims! You can find these scriptures. Opinions are just that, choices are choices, but the Word is the Word of God…blessings !

    • Elle, you are right.

      I am not good at understanding healing but I have seen healing take place instantly or sometimes over a period, even many years. I do not have the gift of healing, surely! We sometimes need to witness to others and we sometimes need to remain silent on the issue. The Holy Spirit guides us in when to, or not.

  42. Dear Richard, Oh! I forgot about “angelle”!! We are in total agreement on all things here. The only thing I will say is that healing is not always instant, flesh wants instant, only God knows when & how, He is in control..It is the supernatural, beyond our understanding. I am so thankful for that! Yes, God does know our needs. And, God knows of the poverty, disease & the human condition. He doesn’t respond to needs, He reponds/wants us to ask Him, come to Him, as dependant children, like you say & in prayer & supplication.. I’m impressed, you got the rope figured out!! Well ofcourse!!🙂 We can wait on the.Lord w/joy & expectation..He will never forsake us, we are blessed…I am thankful He is taking care of you…peace & joy…Elle

  43. Richard, Yes I was a prisoner in paradise…I used to think of the women hostages taken as prisoners & how did they cope. I prayed for them & was thankful for what I had, if only the view, truly. .I’m sorry London is so dismal, are you stuck there? Who knows who would appreciate heaven more.(!). this is the premium “materal land”, Southern Coastal Orange Ccounty…It has changed so much…too many cars, people, crazy values. stressed out people trying to “make” it in a bad economy. I will not be here the rest of my life…coastal Washington is a possibilty.. wonderful outdoor life, simple & peaceful, like it used to be here!…I’m coping w/this world, trying to keep my “light” on, but I really want to go ‘home” too!… 🙂

    • Elle – and all else – Joseph ended up in a well and so did Jeremiah, but so did millions of other disciples of Jesus the Christ. Sometimes we are being kept in a prison to learn to be content with His presence alone. Then also to be a blessing to others – you just acted as a fullt-time caregiver in an intensive care hospice right within your own home. My wife’s aunt did the same for her mother, except that it had taken more than a decade’s total commitment.

      Our Lord had taken me aside for very long and, because of the need to have waited for important phone calls, never could go for a swim in the ocean right in front of me even when the temperature was well above 40 degrees Celcius. For the past 3.5 years, I had to stay inside with the only view being a garden wall, yet I live a few minutes’ walk from the very same places that people travel to around the globe to come and behold. I needed to stay out of converstation with any other than Him for long periods of time. This was necessary to receive instructions that will bless others in days to come, when life will become almost impossible to many in countries that were safe up til now.

      I am much concerned about the USA and possibly Canada as I had a horrific vision of the entire country floating in molten magma, then a rift opens in the middle, making a longitudinal volcano from north to south. That is caused when two plates collide and the country (USA) is split into two sides, the easter side a bit smaller then the western side. I have believed this to be figurative until I was presented with facts about physical problems beneath your feet about a week ago.

      My mind is clear on this: calamity of some sorts is going to hit the USA and, like Jesus, I pray for the true believers, not for the entire nation. Some people may eventually have no option but to come this way. An old prophet, who was a true child of God, saw worse things happen to Europe and the UK. I am still astounded by God having called me to bring a similar message, but also by being prepared for facilitating such migrants or refugees. yet, at the moment, i am still pretty helpless myself! Jesus, on the verge of doing the most powerful deed ever, needed someone else to bear Hus cross as He was too weak. Even He did undergo the same kind of inverted reality as we do.

      You will be blessed because of the love you had given.

      • there have been others who have had dreams or visions of the USA being split in half, if that is confirmation for you.

        I would agree with this, although it concerns me greatly.

        America’s sins are great, and I think the final one will be when we force Israel to part with its land.

        when this happens, God will split OUR land.

        There are volcanoes in the western part of the USA, and one is unstable.

        if it erupts, it would spread eastward and southward.

        the eruption would then intercept with the natural gas basins, and create further explosions.

        the gas explosions would then disturb the new madrid fault line that divides the land from north to south

        it would be a chain of events

        If anyone escapes from here, it will be a wonder.

        the government may not allow it.

    • Dear Elle,

      Agreed….Home in paradise with the Lord is to be the next move…and believe me, it will be sooner than many have been led to believe…so we continue to hang on to that unbreakable thread whilst eagerly awaiting THE DAY when the Lamb is to draw up his kindred, to eventually place us in the restored garden and kingdom of himself: ‘the last Adam’: our Saviour and King, Christ Jesus……..Love and blessings to you, always!!….see you there!! 🙂 🙂

  44. Thank You, Dutch Uncle!

    You know…you are a real “eye-opener” in ways I cannot even begin to describe as it would simply take too long! lol To put it simply…YOU and I could be…best friends and/or neighbors!

    “Black Friday” going to Africa??? hmmm…??? Is “that” really a good thing or not? YES! I’m making “lite” of the biggest SHOPPING day of the year!

    Take Care and God Bless!

    your friend,

    bobby wise

    • Hi Bobby!

      Black Friday obviously is American but, believe me, we even nowadays have St Patrick’s day here at some venues🙂 I did not know that Cape Town was an Irish enclave….or American!

      Be blessed, friend Bobby, and all other friends here🙂

  45. Hi Dutch Uncle, Thank you for your kind words. Yes, I knew why I was “sequestered” by the Lord & it was over 5yrs w/my mother. She was difficult, no one wanted to be there. The child she never wanted, me, was the only one who took care of her!! My siblings decided they weren’t christians decades ago, sad. My father, who passed away 11yrs. ago, was a christian of the 1st order! His heart was full. Anyway, this wasn’t my 1st call from the Lord, too much to tell here…We lay our life down & follow Him…Your vision is one of many for the U.S.& is certainly possible. We know something will occur here of great magnitude. As Marianne knows, I’ve been sensing, strongly, for months now, that there’s a big event(s) comimg soon, earthquake(s), that will change the topography here. I don’t know if it IS the big one or leading up to it. I don’t feel compelled by the Lord to leave & I’m not questioning that! The Lord meets us where we are when we depend on Him. Many blessings to you on your journey! Elle

  46. Hi Dutch Uncle, I agree with you, as well, regarding healing. It is a divine mystery, supernatural & may be beyond our human understanding at times. It is not relevant for us to try & figure out who did what to speak healing, it’s timing, or it’s success, or not… God is the ONLY one to get the is not ours to claim!!…peace & health to all! Elle

  47. Dear Richard, You have said it so perfectly! We will be in real paradise soon…I think we all believe the Lord is strengthing us, His children, day by day. His faithfulness is “awesome” .. Eccl. 4:12, re: the 3 corded (braided) rope, tells us of the power of 2, better 3, who stand together for victory…let us all be united & victorious, for it so pleases the Lord! See you there for sure..abundant blessings & love to you…🙂 🙂 !

    • We sure will be in paradise soon, Angelle, and since I’ve ordered the seeds and bulbs we had better bring as many with us as possible, with the Adams to do the cultivating, sowing and planting, and the Eve’s to do the deadheading, harvesting, threshing, culinary duties, and all those other chores that come natural to ‘woman’…how’s that for fairness! :)……Love you always!

  48. Dear Richard…Haven’t you heard the news? ! The “curse” is no longer in heaven…🙂 !

    • Yes dear Angelle, no curses, which means that “Adam”, despite his heavyweight duties, will no longer have to work by the sweat of his brow, and head straight for the hammock at the end of the day, thus will now have time and energy for a little sustained romance, preceded by a large handful of freshly cut heavenly scented roses, which, by the way, only he will handle, as the LORD desires the lightly worked hands of His beloved “Eve”, to remain perfect and blemish free, such is His pleasure over His beautiful creation…:)

      Even after the 1000 years when Satan is loosed, “Eve” will no longer have to deal with any “snakeskin oil salesmen” at the door selling baskets of “magic fruit”, since “Adam” will now have the wherewithal to ensure that his cherished companion will remains forever perfect, pure and equal….
      Oh how the Creator delights in His creation called ‘woman’, whom He hath made indeterminate to “Adam”, who has been blessed with an eternity to unravel her intricate mysteries, thus forever engaged in the joy of learning and discovery, whilst simultaneously delighting in her ever evolving nuances!…..🙂

      Oh Heavenly Father, remove the chains from around our feet and set us loose in your garden and kingdom, where we can set out on our journey with you and your beloved King Jesus, in endless learning and discovery of your creative majesty; the fullness of your love, and the revealed mysteries of your divine purpose…whilst we are honoured to marvel at your awesomeness every breathing second of the day, with perfect joy and thanksgiving!…..

      Come Jesus soon, for we are done with this world and it’s evil, darkness, suffering, injustice, lovelessness and heartache…and the consequential wearing down of the brethren; albeit with joy in our hearts….. Lead us to bring as many souls to you according to the talents you have entrusted to each of us, in the remaining few hours of light you have afforded us to complete the sowing work in the field of salvation…….Blessings to all!

      • Out of the seven churches, only the congregation of Philadelphia will be kept from the tribulation and, even so, Isaiah 18 and Revelation 12 speaks of accommodation in the wilderness and accurately describing it as Southern Africa. Even Jesus was taken into the wilderness, yet the dragaon’s assault did not end with Him, but has been ongoing ever since.

        Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

  49. Dear Richard…What you wrote is so very beautiful!….Yes, Jesus come soon, we are so “done, done, done” here.! ….but for now we will continue on as disciples, bringing the gospel to all who will listen, in great faith, with thanksgiving, expectation, love, joy & peace as best we can, remembering we are His “daily delight”…what a plan He has for His chosen ones…beyond blessings to you! 🙂

    • Thank you dear Angelle’ and you say so much, succinctly and graciously…a much needed quality in these final hours of winning tired and weary souls to Christ…The fine fight of the faith is all but over… perfetta e completa!

      Dio vi benedica! 🙂

  50. Mio caro Ricardo…..Grazie! Siete malto gentili troppo. Malto benedizio sempre….Ci vediamo paradiso! 🙂

  51. Excellent post, Marianne! It is very difficult to question our very inner core. Very thought provoking. Thank you.

  52. 33 So likewise, whoever of you does not forsake all that he has cannot be My disciple.



    Psalm 146 ‘Do not trust in Princes’
    Orthodox Christians are discussing Psalm 146 [1] and this is our response to the blog post that quotes the Psalm. ‘Do not put your trust in princes, nor in a son of man, in whom there is no help.’

    Has we know Jesus referred to himself has the ‘Son of Man’, and many refer to him has the Prince of Peace. So is the Psalm informing you that Jesus is not coming to help you? It certainly indicates that based upon the translation that you have provided Marianne

  54. Hello. I would like to use your Photo (Luke 14:25-33) with your permission for a Church Bulletin cover. You can reach me at Thank you, and God bless!
    Sue Gregory
    Administrative Assistant
    Sedona United Methodist Church
    Sedona AZ 86336
    928 282 1780

    • hi sue

      I got these pictures from the public domain, and as far as I can tell, there is no copyright associated with them. So it should be ok to use in a nonprofit fashion like a church bulletin.

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