Covenant with Many

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Is the traditional interpretation really biblical?

Dan 9:27

And he [prince to come] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

As written, the covenant is “with many,” and does not mention if Israel is included in the covenant or not.

Also, there is no mention of peace.

That has been an assumption.

A covenant, or treaty, can be for many reasons: commercial, navigation, war, peace, land, resources, amity ( friendship), rights to access ( example: oil rights), protection, etc.

There is also no mention that this is a publicized treaty.

It may be a public or secret treaty.

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Possibilities:

1. Covenant with many nations, which includes Israel as a covenant partner

2. Covenant with many nations, which omits Israel as a covenant partner

3. Covenant with many nations against Israel, and her ally, the USA, as half the Jews are in the USA.

4. Others?

For Israel, it will go from bad to worse.

If Option 2 or 3 is true, then the prince is busy with his activities pushing his agenda, and arrives in Israel at the mid point.

If option 2 is true, then this is an alliance of nations against Israel, to invade and destroy her. If this is true, then the alliance would have to contend with the USA first.

If option 3 is true, then this is an alliance of nations to first destroy the power partner of Israel, America, leaving Israel without any ally, making Israel easy to invade.

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I do not think the prince to come cares anything for Israel, and it is the practice of her enemies to exclude her and accuse her of issues.

For this reason, I am considering option 3 as the most plausible and possible, especially as I look around America and the world, and see the changes.

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There are other posts and other sites that have been following the “invited invasion” of Russian, European, and Chinese troops into America for martial law.

Revelation 6, 6th seal, describes a global earthquake that would

disrupt civilization as we know it. The resulting chaos would break down defenses, and allow attacks to proceed.

Or, the treaty against Israel would cause a massive earthquake in America as God’s judgment, and the attacks would begin sooner than the 6th seal.

The American government has been preparing for a New Madrid fault failure, and so there are signs already that this could be a troubled area in the near future.

May God take care of anyone who lives in this region!

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Note:

It is my impression that the prince to come has come, and the alliance has been formed secretly, and the plans are being carried out.

When he is finished destroying America, he can move to Israel, and try to destroy it also.

There is a last week of Daniel, but the Great Tribulation, or time of Jacob’s trouble, is only the last 3 ½ years. So what happens during the first half?

I believe the first half of the last week of Daniel is devoted to destroying America, so that Israel can be attacked next.

When the prince to come gets to the second half of the week, he betrays everyone in his alliance, and the abomination occurs.

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Training foreign troops at Camp Pendleton – exercise “Dawn Blitz”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgmjGCja-yA

 


15 Responses to “Covenant with Many”

  1. None of your options is correct.

  2. I think that it is with many nations. What will the treaty be about? Peace in the Middle East and Israel. Over and over in the Old T, God warns Israel to not make a bad peace treaty. And in the NT, it says that when people say PEACE the destruction of the day of the Lord will take place. Where? An invasion of Israel. So it makes since that the treaty will be with many nations signed by the antichrist, who then invades Israel at the 3 1/2 year mark of the final seven years. Jeremiah: False prophets say peace. Then an invasion of the day of the Lord. Ezekiel 7-11: a false peace, then a invasion, abomination, people are marked on the fore
    head and the Lord comes back and stands on a mtn east of Israel. That is the day of the Lord: a northern army invades an Israel at peace and then the Lord comes back 3 1/2 years later

  3. Does anyone even understand the meaning of ‘covenant’ in the biblical sense?? A covenant is NOT a treaty or a contract. It is a binding of LOVE between God and His People as is a marriage. It is spiritual. This is both implied and stated quite openly and simply throughout the Bible. Using the word as it is used in the manner of what was written above is absurd.

  4. I think the prince is satan in flesh..He is the prince of the world that comes after Jesus -John 14-30..I also think this could be Mohmmed and his mahdi Obama during the last seven years…This prince causes the sacrifice to cease.. Would that not be the denial of the sacrifical death of Jesus of millions of muslims and soon many Christians….????..The lies of Islam cause men to become desolate… Desolate means desolate of God’s spirit…
    As for the COVENANT.. muslims most deinately have a covenant with satan…Allah is satan..

    Daniel 9-26 speaks of a flood.. IT is a flood of words, Islam’s doctrinal lies that destroy those that believe them…
    Rev 12-15, 16, 17…speaks of this flood…The dragon-beast casts a fllood out of his mouth…This is a flood of words to carry her away from God.. This woman is part of the christian church as is also her seed…She is the part of the church that does not fall down to the dragon beast and is hid away in the wilderness where God feeds her hidden truths of satan…This is the fulfilling of the prophecy of Genesis 3-15..

  5. The Bible says the Gospel of Christ was preached in all the world during those days….In Matt 24-14,15 He is speaking of the gospel of the false prophets and false Christs..

    Jesus told us exactly what the abomination of desolation really is in Matthew 24-14, 15..He says the gospel the false prophets and false christs bring will be preached in all the world….. V. 15… Jesus said, when you therfore see the abomination of desolation spoken of Daniel the prophet….and added the words “whosoever readeth, let him understand”…He was speaking of the koran and the gospels added to Christianity…
    Daniel called it the abomination that maketh men desolate…The koran lie and the false gospels in christianity cause men to lose the truth and consequently god’s spirit leaving them desolate..

    I learned at age five, well maybe at age 12…never believe men’s interpretaion of the Bible…Learn the truths of the Bible yourself with Holy Ghost teacher.

  6. Regarding the comment of gmr5Greg above that there is rampant ignorance in regard to “the meaning of ‘covenant’ in the biblical sense” and that the word, in the biblical sense, means “a binding of LOVE between God and His People as is a marriage”, I would suggest that gmr5Greg do what I did and look up the word in the verse to see, from Strong’s Concordance, what the word means.

    Here is what gmr5Greg will learn:

    The Hebrew word is בּרית
    berı̂yth
    ber-eeth’
    In the sense of cutting a compact … a confederacy, covenant, league.

    So yes, the word can be used in terms of a marriage (e.g. union of a man and a woman by legal contract), but it is certainly more broad, and can certainly mean an alliance between nations. Nothing in the definition says, as gmr5Greg says, a covenant in the biblical sense “It is spiritual” nor is it true that such a spiritual-only interpretation of the word “is both implied and stated quite openly and simply throughout the Bible”.

  7. Regarding the “prince to come” (i.e. Antichrist), I think e1313ruth is on the right track in thinking he (and the masculine pronoun is used to describe him, so we can rule out Hillary) is “satan in flesh”. But what might also bear consideration is that the Antichrist, like the false prophet, are resurrected/immortal humans. And so, if Obama is the Antichrist, his revealing would not be unless/until he is resurrected immortal. I think the biblical choice of the words “the false prophet” in Revelation are stunningly prophetic in that the false prophet will be a man whom millions of people have, for over 1000 years, referred to as The Prophet. Scripture just inserts the word “false” between the words “The” and “Prophet” since that man (Mohammed) was certainly no prophet.

    I disagree with e1313ruth’s ideas interpretations of sacrifice, desolate and flood.

    In my opinion, since the 70 Weeks prophecy solely pertains to Israel (“Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city”) the covenant being spoken of must be a covenant God made with the nation Israel. And the only covenant He made that, thus far, has not been established/fulfilled was the land contract (i.e. Israel having borders which extend into Egypt, Saudi Arabia and, I think, even Iraq). Perhaps the only way Muslims would be willing to cede such land to Israel would be if Mohammed in the immortal flesh gave his consent. But, of course, it will all be a lie.

  8. “Jesus told us exactly what the abomination of desolation really is…. “whosoever readeth, let him understand”…He was speaking of the koran and the gospels added to Christianity….
    I learned…never believe men’s interpretaion of the Bible…”

    I suppose e1313ruth does not realize that THAT is a man’s interpretation of what Jesus/Daniel said/meant.

  9. It won’t make a sense to try to establish a peace treaty without the involvement of Israel. Why should they feel obliged to keep such a one. Remember, they still have the nukes. Who could force them? There is a pattern. Each time when the USA or the EU tried to push a giving up of land on Israel, disaster struck. As it looks now, Obama is ready to betray Israel and divide it. That may be the cause of a major disaster. The FEMA and other federal organizations seem to be expecting something.

  10. There is of course a much simpler and less fanciful alternative to the ““Left Behind” scenario you are all trying to conjure up here with Antichrists and peace plans etc, and that is that the prophecy was fulfilled in the original time allotted and the rest is just from the imagination of a man who wrote a popular book which changed the thoughts of millions of gullible people.
    Here is a short article on the subject, I hope you will keep an open mind and see if this explanation does not make perfect sense without distorting the original prophecy out to a 2500 year long odyssey rather than a simple story of God’s challenge to his people about the coming of His son and how he should be treated.
    They failed miserably. And now most of us fail to understand the truth of the prophecy as well. It is ironic… the Jews were given the exact time frame yet they blew it. And now, when we should be able to look back and understand it ourselves, most are tearing apart the timeline and turning it into a false story to take place in our own time. We don’t want to learn from previous mistakes…

    http://biblelight.net/dan927.htm

  11. Virtually all informed Bible students accept that the “Latter Days” spoken of here is the latter days of the Roman empire.

    I think James Giordano, above, is closest to the truth.

  12. (the parentheses are my insertions)

    Daniel 9:27 He (Satan) will confirm a covenant with many for one seven (this is the all inclusive seven that covers the whole of Daniel’s prophesy from beginning to end) In the middle of the seven he (Satan) will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple (688 AD) he will set up an abomination that causes desolation — until the end that is decreed is poured out on him. (there will be no Jewish temple on the temple mount until the abomination is gone)

    II Thessalonians 2:4 He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

    Mark 13:12 When you see the abomination that causes desolation standing where it does not belong — let the reader understand — (it was in the middle of the prophecy, 688 AD) then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the roof of his house go down or enter the house to take anything out. Let no one in the field go back to get his cloak. (This would not be possible today, but back in the middle of the seven the houses were built with a flat roof one after the other. You could run along from roof to roof to get away from the Islamic armies without going into the streets where they were cutting off heads, taking women for slaves, forcing conversion by the sword, with the ultimate goal being: to cause all, great or small, rich or poor, free or slave, to convert or die.)

    Luke 21:23 How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers. There will be great distress in the land and wrath against this people. They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. ( fulfilled 6 Day War 1967)

    Luke 21:20 When you see Jerusalem being surrounded by armies, you will know that its DESOLATION is near. 21 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those in the city get out, and let those in the country not enter the city. For this is the time of punishment in fulfillment of ALL that has been written. (This is still the middle of the week. The gentiles are going to be in control of Jerusalem until 1967 AD. We are the final generation who has seen ALL that has happened before from beginning, middle, and end, namely; a covenant after the Babylonian invasion to rebuild Jerusalem, Israel having a son, the abomination of desolation, the woman Israel fleeing into the wilderness of the world, the nation being born in a day, the desert blooming, Israel regaining control of Jerusalem — and yet, the antichrist still claims to be God from the temple mount and will continue there — until that which has been determined is poured out on him.)

    Jesus continues:
    Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the distress of those day the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken, 30 At THAT time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn…(except those of us who are waiting for his return. Come Lord Jesus.)

    I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Matthew 24:34

  13. The Mystery of the 70 Weeks of Daniel
    DAN. 9:16 – O Lord, according to all thy righteousness, I beseech thee, let thine anger and thy fury be turned away from thy city Jerusalem, thy holy mountain: because for our sins, and for the iniquities of our fathers,
    Jerusalem and “thy people” are become a “reproach” to all that are about us.

    MATT.18:21-22 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? TILL SEVEN TIMES ? this was according to the Law
    22. Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, until seven times: but, UNTIL SEVENTY TIMES SEVEN = 490 times –

    DAN. 9:24 – Holds the “KEY” to the Understanding of the 70 weeks of years. The true purpose of the 70 weeks including the last week =7 years is for the RECONCILIATION of ALL the ISRAEL of GOD. Also Apostle Paul said the gentiles were grafted into the same tree as the Jewish church.

    DANIEL 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon THY PEOPLE and upon thy Holy CITY, to finish the transgression, and to make an END of SINS , and to make RECONCILIATION for INIQUITY, and to BRING IN EVERLASTING RIGHTEOUSNESS, and to SEAL UP the VISION and PROPHECY, and to ANOINT the most Holy. =
    1. THE MESSIAH is the focus not anti-christ.
    2. RECONCILIATION in Hebrew means – to atone for sins – make atonement for by legal rights, Propitiates all iniquity –
    3.The last week IS NOT just to reveal anti-christ. As multitudes believe.
    3. It is for Restoration. Not just judgment – As in the 7 church ages Jesus plainly shows us the anti-christ judgment and the Bride together just as in the O.T

    DAN.9:25- Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to RESTORE and to build Jerusalem UNTO THE MESSIAH the PRINCE shall be SEVEN WEEKS, and THREESCORE and TWO WEEKS : the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
    =7×7= 49 years-time of exile, and threescore =7×60 =420 years and two weeks =2×7=14 years = 483 years or 69 Weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. Its time for Messiah to appear to O.T Israel. For their restoration. And only a remnant understood it In the 70 week.

    DAN 9:26 And “AFTER” threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the PRINCE THAT SHALL COME WILL DESTROY THE CITY AND THE SANCTUARY; and the end thereof shall be WITH A FLOOD , and unto the END OF THE WAR DESOLATIONS ARE DETERMINED.

    1. So Plain it says “AFTER the 69 weeks” – then shall Messiah come into the 70th week to be the Sacrifice in the “MIDST of the last Week.
    2. We know this is true for sure because it says right after that – the PRINCE that shall come will DESTROY the CITY and the SANCTUARY;
    3. Who was that “prince” — It was Rome uniting with Israel in the “Midst of the week” to destroy him = Messiah – Then 37 years later – Rome came again to the great city Jerusalem and destroyed the CITY and the SANCTUARY that started in 70 AD and lasted 3 and ½ year’s of destruction of Israel that made it a DESOLATION until 1948.
    4. THE FLOOD that is spoke of in Rev. 12 – The World of IMPERIAL Rome and Israel Both anti-christ caused this flood. The Flood was after the “manchild” was born that was caught up to heaven = Messiah. And then satan = Took over and tried to kill the remnant of her seed in the church ages. In the Dark Ages of the Church ages. When Imperial Rome turned into Papa Rome. Healing the great wound that was given to the Pope to destroy Gods people with doctrines of devils etc. and majorities taking the “Mark of the beast” in the dark ages right up till today. Many still give their lives for Romanism doctrines of devils. And we are still in the age of the Mark of the Beast in its fullness just as it was in Jesus 1st. coming. The fullness of times.

    DAN. 9:27- And “”HE”” shall CONFIRM A “COVENANT” with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the SACRIFICE and the OBLATION to CEASE , and for the overspreading of ABOMINATIONS he shall make it DESOLATE, even until the CONSUMMATION, and that determined shall be poured upon the DESOLATE.

    1. “HE means the Messiah not no anti-christ“. It was the anti-christ that killed Christ. “Israel and Rome uniting together“. = church and state.
    Then after the destruction of the city O.T sacrifices and oblations Ceased 37 years later. There was NO Temple or City to gather to. And sacrifice in.

    2. Remember ver 24 the 490 years was for the RECONCILIATION of all Nations including Israel. Finishes the transgression restrains sin, making a End to Sin with a Full Atonement . Even to our Day today. The N.T era.
    3. The Sacrifice CEASED in Israel after the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. The Rejected Christ brought Judgment to Israel in the “disciples generation” as He promised would come in Matthew and Gospels. Compare to MATT. 23:37-38 No mistaking to that one. Then the ABOMINATION that maketh DESOLATE is fulfilled with the destruction of Jerusalem and Temple mount.
    4. Yes and it going to happen again in our day. The great Advent of Messiah will led all the way into the End of the World. But He =Messiah has got to restore the N.T now because of the prince that did come in Israel’s day.
    5. The last mentioned “prince”=anti-christ was the last Beast of Daniels vision of the 4 beast. And goes into perdition in our time. From Imperial Rome to Papal Rome. The Papacy still reigns over Christianity. An entity that God will soon be done away with. The Ten toes represent the Clay and Iron that mixed meaning. Civil and Religion mixed all over the World.
    5. Even till the CONSUMMATION of all things. The End of the World which we are living in right now.

    1. But Rejoice this earth will go back to Eden again. New Earth and Heaven. After the consummation of all things not just the Middle east.
    2. All Nations will be involved in this last destruction of anti-christ. Because of what Christ did for us 2,000 years ago.
    3. It will be a “remnant” as in Jesus day. There will be a Prophet herald in Christ’s coming with a last day Message for His Bride just as John was for Jesus 2000 years ago. That’s already happened with the opening of the 7 Seals. And the “flood” of doubt will overcome the foolish denominational dead church’s still giving sacrifice to their dead denominations. But the “True Bride” will ’understand and be wise”.

    DAN. 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Also
    MATT. 13:23 – But he that received seed into the good ground is he that HEARETH THE WORD, and UNDERSTANDETH it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
    Heb. 13:8 Jesus the same yesterday, today, and forever.
    bro. ty

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