Flood Before Days of Peleg

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Basin or global food?

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Flood preceded the continental divide:

1 chronicles 1:19.

Fifth generation after Noah.

17 The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.

18 And Arphaxad begat Shelah, and Shelah begat Eber.

19 And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg; because in his days the earth was divided: and his brother’s name was Joktan.

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Which means the earth remained a Pangea during the flood, and was divided later.

Peleg seems to be in the same generation as Ham’s descendent Nimrod (tower of babel), so as God divided the nations according to language, he also may have separated them onto different land masses.

**note: It is interesting that such a dramatic event of land division has little written evidence in ancient literature.

While I have always thought of Noah’s flood as global, it also makes sense that he was to float on water for a year, then find his way back to Mt Ararat, all from a starting point of the Middle East.

It is obvious that if Noah knew where he was after the flood receded, it must have been because he was there before, and recognized where he was.

If the flood was global on the earth as we know it today, then it would have been easy to float too far away, to the opposite side of the earth, and never make it back to his starting point.

Since the earth had not been “divided” yet, this suggests a Pangea, or one main land mass.

Could a Pangea model be developed to verify a basin area where the flood took place?

Maybe this?

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Basin Design # 1

The land would be arranged so that a natural basin would be formed with a circle of mountain ranges and a central valley / basin. The mountains would naturally contain the water in the basin.

Here is a current map with mountains (brown color)

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Mountain ranges surround the Mediterranean Sea to the north. The plains of Africa to the south have no mountains, except to the far south.

If north and south America were joined to the land mass in a pangea, the mountain ranges on the west side of the Americas would provide the western ranges to enclose a basin.

The red line outlines existing mountain ranges in the Pangea below.

The visible mountains close to the Mediterranean were covered with water,, but we do not know if the mountains far away were or not.

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Basin design # 2

One theory is that the flood took place in the Caspian sea area:

http://discussions.godandscience.org/viewtopic.php?t=32856

AS in the basin design #1, how far past the covered mountains did the water go?

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Basin design # 3

Empty Mediterranean and Black Sea basins that filled up with breaches at Gibraltar and Bosporus inlets

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xQeEgPhSfI

This model interestingly starts the flood close to what would be the Tower of Babel. It seems to be a bad, sinful area.

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Basin Design # 4

Global world wide flood

In this model, Pangea or not, the mid Atlantic ridge and the Pacific ridge (and other ridges) are thought to have been formed from waters of the deep bursting through the crust into the air, covering the entire earth with extra water.

See:

Noah’s Flood and the Mid Atlantic Ridge

Earth Was Divided

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Other thoughts:

http://www1.cbn.com/biblestudy/did-the-flood-really-cover-the-whole-earth%3F

In the Genesis account of Noah’s flood, the words and phrases used to describe the event paint the picture of it being a worldwide catastrophe:

So God said to Noah, “I have decided to destroy all living creatures, for they have filled the earth with violence. Yes, I will wipe them all out along with the earth!” (Gen. 6:13, NLT)

“Look! I am about to cover the earth with a flood that will destroy every living thing that breathes. Everything on earth will die.” (Gen. 6:17, NLT)

“There must be a male and a female in each pair to ensure that all life will survive on the earth after the flood. Seven days from now I will make the rains pour down on the earth. And it will rain for forty days and forty nights, until I have wiped from the earth all the living things I have created.” (Gen. 7:3b-4, NLT)

Noah was 600 years old when the flood covered the earth. He went on board the boat to escape the flood—he and his wife and his sons and their wives. (Gen. 7:6-7, NLT)

After seven days, the waters of the flood came and covered the earth. When Noah was 600 years old, on the seventeenth day of the second month, all the underground waters erupted from the earth, and the rain fell in mighty torrents from the sky. The rain continued to fall for forty days and forty nights. (Gen. 7:10-12, NLT)

Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth, rising more than twenty-two feet above the highest peaks.

All the living things on earth died—birds, domestic animals, wild animals, small animals that scurry along the ground, and all the people.

Everything that breathed and lived on dry land died. God wiped out every living thing on the earth—people, livestock, small animals that scurry along the ground, and the birds of the sky. All were destroyed.

The only people who survived were Noah and those with him in the boat. And the floodwaters covered the earth for 150 days. (Gen. 7:19-24, NLT)

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Some scholars have taught that the flood was local, and did not cover the entire earth. They point to words or phrases such as ‘all flesh died’ (Gen. 7:21) as meaning all living things within the local area. But when a word can have more than one meaning, the context must define its true meaning. In Genesis 6-10, the context is one of a global Flood!

In these five chapters, words and phrases of a global scale are used more than 30 times. In every instance, the primary meaning is global, and in totality.

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If you compare this with the words of Jesus, Isaiah, Peter, and the writer of Hebrews, you see that a global destructive flood is assumed.

“Just as I swore in the time of Noah that I would never again let a flood cover the earth, so now I swear that I will never again be angry and punish you.” (Is. 54:9, NLT)

But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. (Matt. 24:37-39, NLT)

They ate, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all. (Luke 17:27, NLT)

By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household, by which he condemned the world and became heir of the righteousness which is according to faith. (Heb. 11:7, NLT)

… who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. (1 Peter 3:20, NLT)

If Noah’s flood were merely local, Jesus’ comparison of the judgment on the people in Noah’s time to the coming judgment of all men (Matthew 24:37-39) makes no sense. Jesus Himself makes it clear that Noah’s flood was, indeed, a worldwide flood.

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There are various flood traditions in different cultural histories

http://nwcreation.net/noahlegends.html

Perhaps the second most important historical account of a global flood can be found in a Babylonian flood story in the Epic of Gilgamesh.

When the Biblical and Babylonian accounts are compared, a number of outstanding similarities are found that leave no doubt these stories are rooted in the same event or oral tradition.

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BABYLONIAN	BIBLE
Take the seed of all creatures aboard the ship	Gen. 6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh you shall bring.
I boarded the ship and closed the door.	Gen. 7:1 Come into the Ark Gen. 7:16 The Lord shut him in.
I sent out a dove . . . The dove went, then came back, no resting-place appeared for it, so it returned.	Gen. 8:8 He sent out a dove…But the dove found no resting-place . . . and she returned.
Then I sent out a raven . .it was the waters receding, it ate, it flew about to and fro, it did not return.	Gen. 8:7 He sent out a raven, which kept going to and fro until the waters had dried up from the Earth.
I made a libation on the peak of the mountain.	Gen. 8:20 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord (on the mountain) and offered burnt offerings.

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Thoughts

While the basin model is very logical, the global flood seems to have more scriptural evidence.

There is another “flood” coming, but it is mainly with fire. A pole shift has also been predicted which will include massive flooding.

Regardless of the nature of the disaster, we all need an ark.

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But this time, the ark is a person, not a boat.

His name is Yahshua (Jesus).

Without him, no matter where you are, or where you hide, you will be lost and die an eternal death.

Take 5 minutes and think about your future. It is just around the corner, and your time is really up. We are on borrowed time right now, but it will not last much longer.

There is only one Father God, and only one Son of God. The Father sent His Son to atone for your sins.

If you accept this and repent of your sins, you will be saved. If you do not accept this, you will be lost and destroyed.

This is not meant to intimidate people into being saved, but this is a reality that has to be faced. And this post is a warning written out of love.

The choice is yours.

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