Flying, Fiery Serpents
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Ok. What are these things?
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There may be 2 kinds:
(1) serpents who have a fiery bite
Num 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
Deu 8:15 Who led thee through that great and terrible wilderness, [wherein were] fiery serpents, and scorpions, and drought, where [there was] no water; who brought thee forth water out of the rock of flint;
(2) Serpents who have a fiery bite, or nature, and fly
Isa 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit [shall be] a fiery flying serpent.
Isa 30:6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence [come] the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people [that] shall not profit [them].
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Numbers used the word nachash for snake, which is a natural snake.
The Hebrews in the desert were being bit by snakes. Moses put a serpent on the end of his rod, and told people to look at it, to get healed. Repentance was an implied requirement as they looked.
The serpent here may have been the Saw Scale Viper.
http://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/meridian/2000/serpent.html
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Is there a naturally occurring flying snake?
Here is one source which thinks so.
New Snake Footage Uncoils Mystery of Flying Serpents
John Roach
for National Geographic News
August 7, 2002
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0807_020807_flyingsnake.html
Excerpt:
There is a snake that actually launches itself from trees or other high places. It is theorized that perhaps the snake makes its body aerodynamically flat to glide through the air. Another possibility is that the snake prepares itself in some way just before launching itself into the air. The snake has been observed moving in an “S” pattern as it glides through the air.
Along the west coast of India and in parts of Southeast Asia and Sri Lanka, some snakes slither through the jungle, bite with venom, and glide from tree to tree.
Research shows that the snakes flatten and undulate their bodies to glide through the air. Undulation is key to their ability to stay aloft.
There are five species of flying snakes, all of the genus Chrysopelea. Adults average about three feet (one meter) long, and though not lethal, some have a pretty testy temperament, said Socha.
“They do have small fangs in the back of their mouth and inject a small amount of venom when they eat, but they’re harmless to humans,” he said. “I’ve been bitten many times with no effect.”
Like more familiar gliders, such as flying squirrels, flying snakes are not actually able to fly upward. Their flight is actually the ability to glide considerable distances from the high branches of trees.
A video of a flying snake
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Does this match the Bible account?
1. I would conclude from this video that these snakes do not actually fly, but glide as they fall.
2. They cannot ascend into the air and travel.
3. They just fall downwards.
4. And as they say, most are only green, nonpoisonous, and harmless to humans, with some exceptions.
5. they are reported in jungles, not deserts
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Isaiah uses the word שרף seraph for serpent, which can be either a natural, venomous snake, or a supernatural being.
1) serpent, fiery serpent
a) poisonous serpent (fiery from burning effect of poison)
2) seraph, seraphim
a) majestic beings with 6 wings, human hands or voices in attendance upon God
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The word here for “fly” can mean either to fly, or to “hover over.”
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These flying fiery serpents – from the Bible – have certain characteristics:
1. found in the desert wilderness
2. they really fly
3. they look like serpents
4. they have a fiery nature – their venom can cause death
5. they have “riches” to carry (Isaiah 30:6)
6. They may have the ability to “hover” over an area.
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Is there anything else in the world that fits the “Isaiah snake” description better?
Those that fit the Isaiah definition are a little stranger.
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This one has a fire color, and remains suspended in air, without falling. It “hovers”
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over New York
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sky serpent associated with lightening (electrical “fire”)
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Mexico
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news report
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NASA confirms serpents found in outer space
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“alien” web site
http://matter-of-spirit.com/ALIENS.htm
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Conclusions from current “Isaiah serpent” videos
1. the serpent like creatures do fly
2. they seem to be found anywhere
3. they live more in the sky than on the ground
4. they may, or may not, be venomous.
5. What they carry (“riches” of Isaiah 30:6) with them remains to be seen.
6. They can “hover”
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History of flying serpents
England
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English: The Flying Serpent. Or: Strange News out of Essex. Being: A true Relation of a Monstrous Serpent which hath divers times been seen at a Parish called Henham-on-the-Mount within 4 miles of Saffron Walden. Showing the length, proportion and bigness of the Serpent, the place, where it commonly lurks, and what means hath been used to kill it. Also a discourse of other Serpents, and paticularly of a cocatrice killed at Saffron Walden.
Pamphlet about the Henham Dragon.
Date
1669
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Mayans
http://www.philipcoppens.com/rebuildingcreation.html
El Castillo, the famous pyramid of Chichen Itza, symbolised the Snake Mountain – the place of origin.
Each religious site had a representation of the “Snake Mountain”; in Teotihuacan, this role was performed by the Quetzalcoatl pyramid.
Their god, Quetzalcoatl, was the “flying serpent”.
The serpentine connotation of El Castillo is visible through the serpent carved on its side.
On the equinoxes, the sun plays a light and shadow game, bringing the snake alive.
Many scholars now believe that the “Flying Serpent” is the “Vision Beast”. Like many religions, the Mayan priests tried to induce visions.
One methodology used was bloodletting, whereby the resulting trance was visualized as the “victim” being eaten by the Vision Beast: he entered the Otherworld.
Quite often, this “shamanic voyage” occurred on top of the pyramid, where the god himself voyaged from this to other realities – and back.
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North America, and other countries
(1) http://www.subversiveelement.com/SkySerpents.html
(2) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2323246/posts
(3) Serpent here has a supernatural quality:
http://www.sacred-texts.com/eso/sta/sta48.htm
Excerpt:
These Children of the Sun adore the Plumèd Serpent, who is the messenger of the Sun. He was the God Quetzalcoatl in Mexico, Gucumatz in Quiché; and in Peru he was called Amaru.
From the latter name comes our word America. Amaruca is, literally translated, ‘Land of the Plumèd Serpent.’
(4) These seem to be “natural” flying snakes:
http://biofort.blogspot.com/2007/11/american-srph-unnatural-history-of.html
Excerpt:
A slightly larger and more alarming specimen was observed over St. Charles, Missouri, not far from the Mississippi River in 1911. Mrs. John Bishop and her children were startled from their work and play by an odd sound evocative of a monoplane.
This buzzing though was not from an engine, but rather from the highly rapid fluttering of a sizeable pair of wings attached to a three-foot-long spotted snake passing over their residence.
The awe that overtook the unsuspecting family quickly transformed into terror however, as the airborne snake turned and approached the terrified group of witnesses.
The mother hastily herded the children into the home where they watched in safety as the creature performed various aeronautic feats for almost twenty minutes before it disappeared over the horizon in the direction of Alton, Illinois.….. ( Washington Post; Washington DC, 10/29/1911)
Farm hands working on what was one of the most renowned plantations in King George, Virginia, “Berry Plain”, did battle with a winged snake in September of 1905 and emerged victorious. The enigmatic reptile had been seen many times on the plantation—always in flight or arboreal, never terrestrial—prior to its demise.
The beast was five feet long, one inch in diameter and possessed wings “of good size” covered with something that resembled feathers. The plantation was located on the banks of the Rappahannock River; thus, locals surmised that the creature must have “come from an impenetrable marsh of the river or some neighboring creek”.….. ( Wisconsin Valley Leader, Grand Rapids WI, 9/28/1905)
In 1914, an American Indian of the Seminole tribe named Jim Sanitu traversed the country with his “trophy”, the fully mounted skeleton of a large winged snake that he claimed to have bested in a battle in the Everglades…. ( Decatur Review, Decatur IL, 10/17/1914)
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Conclusion
We have a history of both small and large versions of flying, fiery serpents.
Some appear to be purely natural snakes, except they have wings, and fly.
Other legends point to creatures with a supernatural quality. Some peoples have made gods out of them.
Are some of the strange UFO-like appearances related to this “supernatural” version?
If all accounts are true, then we should be prepared for anything, if it happens to come about.
I have never ever heard of a history of fiery serpents, snake that fly? I have heard of dragons, but watched something on I think it was CBN about how they were actually talking about dinosaur. I have never seen a flying snake and if this was true I think it would freak people out and they most likely would see it on the news.
hi Denise,
I agree that this is a strange topic, about strange “critters.”
Denise and to all,
The serpents within this passage are demons. Demons from the pagan culture of Egypt.
“The seraphim are frequently mentioned in the Book of Enoch (xx. 7, lxi. 10, lxxi. 7), where they are designated as δράκονες (“serpents”), and are always mentioned, in conjunction with the cherubim, as the heavenly creatures standing nearest to God. In Rev. iv. 6-8 four animals are pictured as standing near the throne of God; each has six wings, and, as in Isaiah, they sing the “Trisagion.”
The older Babylonian concept of the seraphim is of serpents, as the name implies. Among many peoples of antiquity serpents played an important part in myth and folk-lore. For instance, there were Tiamat in the Babylonian legend of the Creation, and the Uræus serpent in Egypt. Consequently, since the Jews shared the superstitious ideas of surrounding nations in other respects, it should not be a matter of wonder if they adopted this notion as well… In this connection the names “Dragon Spring” and “Serpent Pool” (places in the vicinity of Jerusalem) are worthy of being noted.
A brazen serpent brings relief from the effects of the bite of the fiery serpents (Num. xxi. 9 et seq.) which Yhwh sent among his disobedient people in the wilderness. Isaiah (xiv. 29, xxx. 6) speaks of fiery, flying serpents and dragons; and a brazen serpent, Nehushtan, stood in the Temple at Jerusalem, and was an object of worship until the time of Hezekiah, who destroyed it as being idolatrous (II Kings xviii. 4 et seq.).
The worship of Nehushtan was plainly a remnant of ancient superstition, and was reconciled with the worship of Yhwh by connecting Nehushtan with the scourge of snakes in the wilderness and the rescue from them (Num. xxi. 9 et seq.). Therefore the theory seems possible, even probable, that the seraphim have their counterpart in the flying serpents of Isaiah (comp. also II Esd. xv. 29). It is only natural that these winged guardians of Yhwh’s throne were soon ranked as higher beings and invested with the human form or with some features of the human body; and it was because of the very fact that they were adopted into the Yhwh cult that they were, in process of time, ennobled and spiritualized” (Jewish Encyclopedia). The above is from the following link.
http://www.ha-nachash.info/2009/02/seraphim-winged-serpents.html
So, it seems clear (more than likely) that God sent specific demonic spirits located in the pagan Egyptian culture (not literal snakes) to the people because they complained, wanting to return to the pagan culture form which they were delivered by the hand of God.
Maybe we can better understand what the Lord means when He said the following:
“And He said to them, ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in Heaven'” (Luke 10:18-20, NKJV).
Blessings
Psalm 27
The dragon of Rev 12 and 13 is the same serpent in the garden…and he has returned to tempt men again…
Rev 12-9…And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
THAT OLD SERPENT OF GENESIS 3 IS ONE AND THE SAME DRAGON OF REV. 12 AND 13…AS STATED IN vERSE 9…
tHAT OLD SERPENT ALSO CALLED OLD LION in the bible has evolved into the fiery flying serpent of Rev… as prophecied…Isaiah 14-29..Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit [shall be] a fiery flying serpent.
But I promie you this wisdom is not for babes but for those weaned…as
prophecied in Isaiah 11-8.. And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice’ den.
I think the The abraxas has a head of a chicken, a rod or whip in his hand, the body of a man and his legs are like serpent roots and they each have a head on them instead of feet..This is the gnostics god…I think he is the cockatrice and it is out of this ancient lore came the fiery dragaon..(a serpent is a dragon)..This babes mind can’t hartdly take this strange wisdom..
some of these fell on car windshields in India. They became windshield vipers!
oh gosh!
I have a comedian on the website!
🙂
The gnostics taught that the demiurge corrupted the entire world and only the serpents knowledge of gensis 3 saved them.. This is why egyptians worshipped serpents for thousands of years..
An ancient artifact of a worship stone depicts the demiurge as an upright SNAKE with the head of a lion…couled with the sun, moon and stars on it..which is probably astrology and of deut 4-19…
I alsmot fainted when I read of this LION-SNAKE in
Psalms 91-13.Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.. This verse is about two entities.. and when I read the 2 verses that preceeded this one then I understoond..These two entities are the two temptations of man.. The lion snake is gensis 3 and the lion dragon is rev 12 and rev 13…
The two preceeding verses are the words satan spoke to Jesus in his temptation… “”For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways. They shall bear thee up in [their] hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone. “””
The temptation of Jesus was example for men to follow when they encounter the last temptation of man…THE DRAGON LION BEAST OF REV 12,13..which I promise you is Islam…
How else would satan tempt man except by saying he is the real god of abrham and leading mens feet out of the way…Did he not say to Jesus and all men today “”FALL DOWN and worship me as the god (of Abraham) and I will give you the kingdoms of the world (in jihad).??
Psalms 91-13.Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: this is the first temptation…
the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet..The lion snake has evolved.. This is the second teemptation of mankind..
Gnostic literature is mind ripping doctrines of demons…The origin of gnostics is obscure … They were the of some of the antichrist of john’s day.. They appeared to have been jews who converted to christianity.. but they were really not of Christians as john said in..1 john 2-19.They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
There is much more…
hi Ruth
It is not a coincidence that something so physically venomous represents Satan.
I hope never to see anything like this in my front yard.
It is a physical reality, not just symbolic.
It seems you are combining the Dragon of Revelation with the Beast. We know the dragon is the devil or Satan. That is stated. But the beast is not an animal, it is a kingdom. (We know this from the four beast-kingdoms of Daniel).
But the beast is not the kingdom of Islam, God could care less about other religions. He sends prophecy to correct his own people – just look at any old-testament prophecies and see how many were NOT about God’s people and how they were going astray.
Revelation is for us Christians, not anyone else.
And as for Satan tempting man, (Christian man that is), his biggest ploy, as it has always been, is to get Christians to break God’s law.
Ask yourself if all Christians are keeping all his commandments. If they are not, then God will very unhappy when he returns and those people will be punished.
He will not be punishing the Muslims or the Buddhists or the Native Americans etc.
He will be going after his own people who are disobeying him.
But I suppose most of us assume we will just be raptured away and not have to worry about the tribulation. That it is only for non-believers. If that were true there is no need for it to be in our bible.
Something to think about anyway.
cute alan….lol
They exist in astral dimension;
If one does not look up to the sky and repent they cause death…
It seems like flying serpents and snakes have been around forever. But as far as I know there has never been a verified account of one attacking anyone nor has a body or skeleton/fossil ever been discovered. They are like unicorns and dragons and other mythical creatures.
None of these videos show a clear picture of anything.
Many of the Mexican videos have been shown to be hoaxes using balloons and other light materials.
In one of them I could see many small balloons of various colors along the edge of the object. And you have to admit, the motion of these things is more like they are floating in a breeze rather than intelligent guided flight.
As for the thousands of
UFO’s” in the NASA footage, I have a feeling thy are orbital debris. After all, we know that most of the moons in our solar system are captured objects. I’m certain that over its history the earth has captured hundreds of thousands of small particles that passed near the earth at just the right speed and angle to go into orbit. Most of the heavier pieces would fall to the ground after a short time. The earth probably captures thousands of such items every day while many eventually will fall out of orbit in time.
It seems unlikely that there are hundreds of thousand UFO’s up there – like cars on a celestial freeway. What are they all doing anyway? If they were going to take over the earth they would have done so already – before they end up running out of gas and food. Now when a couple of them pull up to an A&W Root Beer stand on Route 66 for a tasty lunch, then I’ll start to take these guys seriously.
As for tying these things in with bible prophesy, I can’t buy that either. I find it funny that so many people look for fulfillment of prophecy in YouTube videos yet they don’t recognize all the prophecy that has been fulfilled in the last 2000 years.
I’m afraid these folks will be looking in vain until the second coming and only then will they realize the truth has been there all the time.
hi James
We are just watching.
Jesus said that there would be signs in the skies, so we are looking up to see if anything new is going on.
If it is nothing, then that is good for us.
If it is really bizarre, and real, then it is probably demonic anyhow.
If there is anything in the skies that isn’t man made or a bird then it has to be demonic, this is true with things such as UFO’s. That’s what I say to my kids dad who is unsaved and he doesn’t get it, he thinks there are actual aliens out there.
Not so! Everything is made by God. Not by man!
Uh God makes airplanes and helicopters? Things like that? He may make the material and give us the knowledge but man is the one out there welding things together and planning all this out.
Hey James you will like this piece of ‘debris’.
No A.& W sign though. 🙂
…i think these things and others are demonic for sure, but that it is not their time to harm man …but their time is coming to be loosed! Pray hard and long for the salvation of all…time is short.
Things are happening with more frequency…and people are falling like crazy…i now do not know anyone is not loosing or in trouble with their house, retirement, jobs, or family. In all this let us shine with Christ peace, joy, and love….
hi Sue,
I think the saints are experiencing losses, so that all they have left is Jesus. Hopefully, they will find him in the center of their lives, and hold fast.
We will not be here much longer in time, and we have to let go of anything that attaches us to this world.
According to Hopi prophecy this is next … then the fiery serpents.
abigail
That is a digital imaging issue. If you went there, the water would not be black.
No not yet … for now, just the bottom is the colour of oil … why?
Because we live upon a watery planet …
Because the earth is a sponge in nature …
Because water travels underground as well as surface.
Have you ever tried to dredge a river?
Because … you will think this out yourself.
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scientists know so very little! especially atheist scientists. i always imagine someone trying to position themselves as a “mona lisa” expert, yet denying the existence of leonardo da vinci. we cannot begin to explore / understand creation via science without acknowledging the Creator. funny thing is, Christians are the ones who refuse to worship created things, yet we end up enjoying them more than anyone because we know the Creator!
hi Paul
I do not know much either. 🙂
But appreciating what is there, and knowing Who put it there, is wonderful.
This is a great blog. It illustrates perfectly the insanity of people who believe in a cruel and genocidal god.
oscar
The “serpents” discussed here are not from God, but from Satan.
The rest of it is just natural science.
I know of some snakes that are nicer than people.
Is it not the case that the god from the bible created everything, including your “fiery snakes”, and satan? Or is satan some sort of “hacker” that can create and introduce malicious stuff into god’s otherwise perfect creation?
oscar,
God gave all sentient beings – angels and man – free will, to choose between good and evil.
So, the presence of evil is due to the free will choice of man and satan, not God.
Evil is the absence of god and his holiness.
oscar,
is it not the case that the author of harry potter created ‘he-who-cannot-be-named’ and the malfoy family? are you so bold as to launch assaults at said author?
your arrogance on this blog comment section appears rather bold… but what a coward you would be if you (could even) stand before the Author of all time and space and hurl foolish insults.
just because you hate Him does not make Him non-existent. you are not sincere, you despise the truth, and you seek to trample Him name under foot. you must be strongly warned with the reality/truth of your situation. after that, Christians ought not talk to you anymore.
repent; the kingdom of heaven is at hand. mary saw a promise to abraham come true after 2000 years. is God not long-suffering? will His promises not come true? His word is the only one we can be certain of. fear God, and you have begun your journey into wisdom. say in your heart that there is no God, and you are a fool. that is not my judgment, that is the discernment of Solomon — a man whose wisdom you and i could never dream of possessing.
nobody can hack into God’s sovereign plan. God is not subject to having His story compromised by anybody’s so-called ‘free will.’
paul
AP has an article today ‘Where did the oil go to?
Isn’t this interesting?? And so let me post this little bit of news.
When dealing with aliens everything is alien.
Great catch!
The city itself is alien. hmmmmmm?
We expect an invasion like the type we have surprised on each other …
But I TRULY wonder what type of invasion we are in for.
The oil volcano chimney the size of Mount Everest.
Oil rig sinks.
Jupiter looses a ring. I am seriously aligning my conclusions with Stephen Hawkins …
Beware of aliens !!! Pity those who may assume they are friendly!!!!
Having said this let me add now …
There is a huge difference between 5,000 and 50,000 barrels of oil/per day.
How do I know? Just try to buy 50,000 for the price of 5,000!!
Yet they say it matters not how huge of a ”leakage.”…. yeh right!
Try to stop a volcano and then tell us if it matters how huge the spur is!
You call these men ‘scientists’?? Zombies is a far better description.
And the LESSER ZOMBIES buy this crap!
If you think there is a lesser god THAN God I pity you ALL!!
For so soon you feel the rod of HIS ANGER!
And for all of you who are so cozy with all of this B.S.
Here is a link …
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100514/ap_on_sc/us_gulf_spill_how_much_oil
It seems to me there is a lot of people ‘kissing ass’ as we used to say in the work field.
What kind of promotion do you really think you will have?? … when your water is all undrinkable??
What kind of stars will be pinned to your rags when there is no food to eat??
When you have all destroyed this GOD given planet what manner will you answer your ‘forfathers and your descendants if any’ when it is required to you by God …
What have you done with your power and your money??
What have you done with all of your rituals and deceptions and your services and all that you claim you are so GOOOd at??
You all have a tongue in cheek when it comes to say ”’ENOUGH!!”
Your pastors and your so called priests and your media and your rulers will not speak for you then …
They never did !! They all just pocketed your blood and laughed at you!
And you all observe as religion what they feed you! You are all starving and naked and do NOT even know it!!
Your shame is blushless and we will all wait for what your so called experts have to say about it all!
Shame on you!
The Lord says ‘I will destroy!!’
amen to that, Abigail….I kept getting a strong sense that God is declaring war and he’s coming in wrath… I only observe for time of being.. knowing evil is everywhere… so I turn aside to avoid being dragged into it. Bless your heart for your bold words and I back you 100 percent 🙂
It is believed that the last time Nibiru/planet x passes by it was the time of Mosche.
What time do you really think we live in now? Nibiru/planet x is passing by again!
The first time God said to Moses;’ Take off your shoes for you are standing on HOLY ground.’
This time God is saying: ‘Take off your glasses for you will see My Hand.’
Time to take off your dark lenses which obstruct your view of the dangers you are entering.
The plumes were discovered by scientists from several universities working aboard the research vessel Pelican, which sailed from Cocodrie, La., on May 3 and has gathered extensive samples and information about the disaster in the gulf.
Scientists studying video of the gushing oil well have tentatively calculated that it could be flowing at a rate of 25,000 to 80,000 barrels of oil a day. The latter figure would be 3.4 million gallons a day. But the government, working from satellite images of the ocean surface, has calculated a flow rate of only 5,000 barrels a day.
well, that explains the discrepancy. The government is too lazy to come down there and look for itself. Those in government are too stupid to understand the situation. As long as they get their paychecks, everything is fine for them.
Marianne here is a link for all who are interested.
http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/
THE SERPENT ON THE POLE
http://sabbathsermons.com/2010/04/16/the-serpent-on-the-pole/
The First Symptom
When the serpent bites us, you will find in the third chapter of the first book of the bible a hallucinating experience from Eve. When you look at the third chapter of the last book of the bible, the hallucinating experience is still there. You think you are rich and increased with goods with need of nothing but really you are miserable poor blind and naked. You are hallucinating.
From Genesis to Revelation this condition of being bitten by the serpent exists amongst us. We look and say I’m ok – you are not. You don’t know. You have a neurological disorder is what God is saying. Your brain is not functioning correctly.
good point…..I think too many are snake bit right now.
These are simply references to the powers of darkness, the mighty army of God that executed His righteous judgments and bring the discipline to His children for sin and disobedience. The wild beasts, the birds of prey, the snakes, cobras, leopards, roaring seas, whirlwinds, wolves, locusts and others all represent THEM. This is the mystery of lawlessness and what we must overcome. They are God’s testers of faith and the instruments of indignation and wrath. The weapons of the enemy are primirily lies, hence the references to the venom that comes from the mouth of deceiving spirits. They come to kill, steal or destroy. God Almighty has not lost control of His creation. They serve Him, He uses them to accomplish His purposes on the earth. I have a video on my blog header OUR ENEMY that will show you this in the WORD http://truthinscripture.com/our-enemy/
or you can read a most about the Mighty Army http://truthinscripture.com/2010/02/14/the-mighty-army-of-god/
Just like the birds in the parable of the sower in Luke 8, represent the devil and his demons, so do these snakes and many other allegories. We have been ignorant of their presence and wiles for too long.
hi Pete
Thanks. We need to understand that the real enemy is spiritual, not physical.
hi Pete
Thanks for the insights. We need to understand that the real enemy is spiritual, not physical.
Those features look like ball lightning, sprites, or elfs, which are all common electrical phenomena in the atmosphere.
Please check out this link about troposhere, stratosphere, ionsophere,thermosphere, and exosphere eletrical features: http://www.spritesandjets.com/sprites-jets-diagram.jpg
hi KM
thanks. I would prefer to see a logical natural explanation for events, as opposed to more exotic explanations. I did not know that about the atmosphere. Good job!
Fascinating as usual. 🙂
I still often try to drag cryptozoology into my interpretation of the Bible, e.g. “ropens” for fiery flying serpents. (They’re elongated reptiles, they fly, they bioluminesce in fiery colors, and they may or may not have poisonous bites…) And when the Wikipedia argues over whether the giant marine lifeform that swallowed Jonah was a real organism in light of the fact that no modern-day whales or sharks can swallow a human, I tend to click over to pages about aquatic megafauna in the fossil record…
Don’t know what to make of all the U.F.O.s, though.
hi Violet
That is interesting about the ropens. Maybe there is a connection between them and the biblical description.
The serpents description first is fiery, before ability to fly. Fiery means burning strongly and brightly or consisting of fire. This compares with how the Lord’s ministers are said to be flaming fire. But could also denote the judgement against the evil spirits whose end is the lake of fire.
Serpent in Sanskrit is Naga, which means ‘Not prominent/physical’ and thus denotes their ability to change form, from physical manifestation to other realms. They however can and do with intent manifest in the physical plane, and such times are which we are able to see them. As with a fire also that burns brightly, such entities may not be seen but their influences are what probably have been captured in the photos of the ‘UFO rods phenomenon.
The latter description of them as flying means they tower over the earth, that is they are the principalities of wickedness that literally and spiritually tower over the planet and the lives of men. These are the ‘watchers’ who joined in the rebellion and they remain in the first heaven, that which encapsulates the earth and from thence regulate the affairs of the planet and of the men who opt the way of evil. Sadly, the fall of man let off the planet to others, who had been subjected to man, and whose subjection is restored in Christ Jesus and to all who believe in Him.
From the language of my ancestry, the cockatrice, having somewhat to do with a cock/chicken is translated as Ngu-ku, which from the Sanskrit root means Demon/evil entity-death. The cockatrice thus is the end result of the diminished form of the once powerful spirits under chains of darkness awaiting their final judgement. When humanity toys with these demons and releases them from their shells by the covenants of sorcery, they hatch into vipers and ultimately regain their former powers. Whereas the sorcerer presumes to be in control of the entities, once released, its the entities that tower/fly over the planet and the affairs of the sorcerer.
The manifestation of the UFO rods, will mostly be apparent where much sorcery is in progress, which includes regions of death through warfare, which has been an abiding sorcery of sorts.
Simply put, they are all the handiwork of the principalities of evil whether they be hoaxes or the real deal phenomenon.
good explanation
A Google search on the biblical reference to fiery serpents mentioned in the exodus account in Numbers 21:4 directed me to your site. The biblical account has mystified readers seeking a clear understanding of the text. While different authors have offered a variety of naturalized explanation such as snakes or flying insects whose bite draws a stinging or painful reaction from its victim, I suggested (back in 2010) an alternative explanation which is based upon ancient Egyptian religious texts and traditions. Below is a section of my (04/09/2010) post to ancientbiblehistory.com (a yahoo email list) suggesting the biblical reference to (saraph nachash) / “fiery serpents” (Num 21:6) was a clear reference to the underworld realm of the Egyptian deity – Sokar – as described in various Egyptian religious texts dealing with the solar cycle and the afterlife. Note: I made a couple of minor additions and/or clarifications to the original post.
I’m not suggesting that the exodus account is simply a fantasy based upon the Egyptian solar cycle. I’m only identifying prominent or significant events that “reach” beyond the level of sheer coincidence and suggest direct influence. Case in point; Numbers 21:6
“And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.” In the 4th or 5th hour of the passage of the solar bark [with Re] through the duat – just before reaching the nadir [the lowest point of the 12 hour nightly cycle] during the 6th hour, the solar bark is attacked by serpents.
“The fifth hour is the deepest part of the underworld and the serpent’s task is to spit fire to illuminate the inky darkness through which the sun god is passing. This is the ‘Land of Sokar’, a desolate place teeming with snakes, whose unnatural movements are highlighted by legs and wings on their bodies. Here the barque needs to be towed.”
http://www.abrock.com/MudloffSite/Amduat.html
This parallels the biblical account of “fiery serpents” that attack the Israelites as they
approached the area near the Dead Sea, which is the lowest point (the nadir) on earth.
The fifth and six hours of the nightly passage of the solar bark reaches its nadir – or lowest point during its nightly journey through the underworld. It’s quite a coincidence! Never the less, it could be just that – a simple coincidence. For me, there are too many coincidences of this type to be accidental. Both Moses & Osiris are founding lawgivers to their people and both judge their people. Both defeat/split great enemies – yam suf vs. the great serpent (apophis), etc.
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While there’s plenty of space for different interpretations and/or readings of the biblical reference to “fiery serpents” I look to this likely Egyptian connection. Sokar was the patron deity to Egyptian craftsmen and metal workers. The Israelites and Moses lived in Egypt and both Moses and Aaron were experienced metal workers who fashioned metal objects during the Exodus account. Moses made the brass serpent (Num21:9) and Aaron made the infamous, “golden calf”, as reported in Exodus 32:4. So these suggestions are supported by the biblical account on several levels. Anyway, I thought you and or, your followers might find this additional information of interest.
Louis,
Excellent contribution!
Outstanding research and application of “spiritual manifestations” recorded in the Exodus period.
There is no doubt that God released the “snakes” (demonic spirits), which were present in the culture of Egypt. This would be an appropriate punishment to rebellious children who do not walk in the light and look up. God applied demons familiar with the region (culture) upon the Israelites.
Thank you for sharing your research/writing on this blog.
Please review these two pages posted within Heaven Awaits, adding your comments. I appreciate informed opinions.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-lost-ark-god-forbid/
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/wormwood-spirit-of-bitterness/
You’ve given me encouragement to what I propose regarding “3 Days of Darkness” (mental, emotional and spiritual darkness), occurring with the 9th Plague and similar events which occur in the last days (Rev. 9). Most readers of “3 Days of Darkness” see literal – like snakes falling from trees or out of the air and all around the ground.
How many thousands of snakes would be required to torment hundreds of thousands of feet and legs? Then, all those snakes would vanish, literally?
The article you attached may be helpful in understanding the “powers of darkness” at work within the pagan culture of Egypt. The plagues of Exodus fell upon the Egyptians as the plagues will fall upon the wicked in the last days. The rebellious Israelites felt the bite of “snakes” to lead them to repent and look up.
Exodus chapter 10 provides us with the evidence of the bondage of spiritual, mental darkness and the presence of His light.
The following is an interpretation of “days of darkness” that cover the land of Egypt and covering our culture, expanding in the last days (Revelation 9).
“Then the Lord told Moses, ‘Raise your hand into the air and darkness will cover Egypt. It will be so dark you can feel it!’
So Moses raised his hand into the air and a cloud of darkness covered Egypt. The darkness stayed in Egypt for three days. None of the people could see each other, and no one got up to go any place for three days. But, there was light in all the places where the Israelites lived” (Exodus 10:21-23, ERV).
Many people suggest this 9th plague was focused toward the Egyptian’s worship of a sun god and other cosmic gods. The lesson: No sun light = no god. No moonlight = no god. No stars in the night sky = no gods.
However, this was a unique cloud of darkness falling over all of Egypt – is a “dark cloud” they could feel. Here are some reasons why I believe this is mental, spiritual darkness not a physical darkness with no sun light by day or moon and star light by night.
One reason is that they could not see each other for 3 days. Exodus chapter 10 does not say the sun did not shine or was hidden, does it?
There is no account of God removing oil or wood flame from the Egyptians. Scriptures does not record fire light (candle, oil or burning wood) was removed from Egypt. There is an assumption that light of flame was removed from the Egyptians.
This was a “cloud of darkness” falling upon them when Moses raised his hand into the air. The light from a flame was not removed from them at all.
The King James translation is as follows:
“And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days” (Exodus 10:22, KJV).
Let’s examine the original Hebrew language (“thick darkness”) with Strong’s Hebrew dictionary.
Strong’s H653, Thick: (Feminine), duskiness, figuratively misfortune; concretely concealment: – dark, darkness, gloominess.
Strong’s H2822, Darkness: the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness: – dark (-ness), night, obscurity.
Now, examine the original Hebrew language (“light in their dwelling”) with Strong’s Hebrew dictionary.
Strong’s H215, Light: illumination or (concretely) luminary (in every sense, including lightning, happiness, etc.): – bright, clear, + day, light (-ning), morning, sun.
Strong’s H3427, Dwelling: a seat; figuratively a site; abstractly a session; by extension an abode (the place or the time); by implication population: – assembly, dwell in, dwelling (-place), wherein (that) dwelt (in), inhabited place, seat, sitting, situation, sojourning.
Job 5:8-16 gives an account of such mental, spiritual darkness upon the so called wise but are truly wicked.
“He frustrates the devices of the crafty, so that their hands achieve no success. He catches the wise in their own craftiness, and the schemes of the wily are brought to a quick end. They meet with darkness in the daytime and grope at noonday as in the night. But he saves the needy from the sword of their mouth and from the hand of the mighty. So the poor have hope, and injustice shuts her mouth” (ESV).
Please read Job 15:20-35 for additional insight on such spiritual darkness, which can explain the 9th Egyptian plague.
“The wicked man writhes in pain all his days, through all the years that are laid up for the ruthless. Dreadful sounds are in his ears; in prosperity the destroyer [“Angel of Death”] will come upon him. He does not believe that he will return out of darkness, and he is marked for the sword. He wanders abroad for bread, saying, ‘Where is it?’
He knows that a day of darkness is ready at his hand; distress and anguish terrify him; they prevail against him, like a king ready for battle. Because he has stretched out his hand against God and defies the Almighty, running stubbornly against him with a thickly bossed shield…”(ESV).
Again, Scripture provides us addition information on the oppressive darkness.
Please read Job 3:1-10 for a description of dark depression. Those were dark days for Job as Satan was given permission by God to test Job. Let’s read how Job felt under the conditions. He lamented the day he was born:
“Let the day perish on which I was born, and the night that said, ‘A man is conceived.’ Let that day be darkness! May God above not seek it, nor light shine upon it. Let gloom and deep darkness claim it. Let clouds dwell upon it; let the blackness of the day terrify it. That night—let thick darkness seize it!”
The darkness oppressing the land of Egypt was something only the Egyptians could feel. So then, what is the evidence of these specific people have a feeling of darkness?
This mental, spiritual darkness that they felt would be experienced with – deep depression, despair, gloom, lethargy, despondency, mind-binding confusion, forgetfulness, and other such emotional darkness. This “cloud of darkness” was pervasive throughout the entire population of Egyptians.
Genesis Exodus 10:23 (NKJV) tells us,”nor did anyone rise from his place for three days.”
The Egyptians, in the mists of darkness, did not get up (arise) and go anywhere. Only because they could not see their first or next step?
Egyptians were, by the Hebrew figurative definition of the word “see” – were not able to “consider, discern, take heed, regard or have respect for one another” for 3 days. The emotional, mental feeling of darkness was so deep that Egyptians were self-absorbed in their individual, personal anguish.
In addition, this mental state kept them from even getting up in the morning, arising from lying down – “nor did anyone rise from his place for three days.”
This truly seems to be a state of mental, emotional, spiritual bondage – a deep, depressing “cloud of darkness”, which they could not escape for 72 long hours.
As the Egyptians were struggling with this mental, spiritual darkness the Israelites had “light in their dwellings”.
The children of God had light in their homes – peace, joy, loving-kindness, and other attributes of the light – the Spirit of God. They are the Israelites (pun intended).
We do not know if the Israelites stayed within their home (like the night of Passover a few weeks later) or if they freely walked “in the light”. But, we know the children of God were covered in “light”, while the Egyptians were covered in “darkness”.
Scripture tells us of His spiritual provision:
“He protects His holy people. He keeps them from stumbling. But evil people will be destroyed [void of joy]. They will fall in the darkness. Their power won’t help them win” (1st Samuel 2:9, ERV).
For You are my lamp, O Lord, and my God lightens my darkness. For by You I can run against a troop, and by my God I can leap over a wall. This God – His way is perfect; the word of the Lord proves true; He is a shield for all those who take refuge in Him” (2 Samuel 22:29-31).
“Commit your way to the Lord; trust in Him, and He will act. He will bring forth your righteousness as the light and your justice as the noonday” (Psalm 34:5-6).
“You, LORD, keep my lamp burning; my God turns my darkness into light” (Psalm 18:28).
“Hate evil, you who love the LORD, Who preserves the souls of His godly ones; He delivers them from the hand of the wicked. Light is sown like seed for the righteous and gladness for the upright in heart. Be glad in the LORD, you righteous ones, and give thanks to His holy name” (Psalm 97:10-12).
The Hebrew word for “light” (Strong’s H216) within the Hebrew’s dwelling during the 9th Plague in Egypt (Exodus 10) is the same “light” we read in all the verses quoted above. Therefore, Exodus 10 is spiritual darkness and spiritual light – there should be no doubt.
For God said, ‘Let light shine out of darkness,’ has shone in my heart, giving me the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ’ (2 Corinthians 4:1-6).
You are my lamp, O Lord (2nd Samuel 22:29). Thank you Lord.
Blessings to you Louis!
Psalm 27
Hi DJ
You wrote,
>>>“And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days”…The darkness oppressing the land of Egypt was something only the Egyptians could feel…The lesson: No sun light = no god.
DJ. I enjoyed reading your detailed and informative post. You’ve made it clear that the episode in Egypt clearly demonstrated to the Egyptians that the true Lord of cosmos was not their sun-god Re / Ra – but Yahweh, the true source of the light and darkness / sun & moon, kife & death, etc.
yes, good point
dear louis
thank you for that. are you saying the serpents are natural ones, which are released, or supernatural?
Hi Marianne
The fiery serpents mentioned in Numbers is an enigma without a solution that satisfies all readers and conditions. The flying, fiery serpents associated with Sokar’s realm in Egyptian funerary literature – like the Book of the Dead – is very similiar. Remember that Moses grew up among Egyptian royalty and according to the biblical account was a skilled magician. As such he must have worshipped the various deities of Egypt. originally. Never the less, the true identity of the fiery serpents remains an open question, of which there is no single answer that will satisfy all critics, sceptics or researchers.
Best Regards,
Louis
Hi Marriane
If I understand your question correctly, you’re suggesting that Moses was responsible for the worship of Nehustan by later generations of Israelites. Yes? If this is what you’re suggesting then you’ve misunderstood my comments. Because a much later generation of Israelites came to falsely worship Nuhustan – Moses’ bronze serpent – it was their error. However, the
fact that Moses made a brass serpent according to Yahweh’s orders IS somewhat problematic in itself. You ask, “but why would YHVH god allow that?” That’s an interesting question for which I’ve also wondered about. What appears to be implied is that later generations fell into the pagan ways of the canaanites and idol worship. Never the less, this remains an interesting
question. I suspect that this incident may have involved a local faction of northern Israelites living in Jerusalem – but that’s just a guess.
Best Regards,
Louis
answered in email
they had to face the sin that brought the snakes to begin with ….unbelief
Marriane
Yes, sin was the cause of the serpents appearing. Yes, that is quite clearly indicated, but — what exactly in your opinion – were these seraphim nachash / flying serpents – that killed many people. Num21:6
Louis
Marianne and Louis,
The snakes in the wilderness (Numbers 21:5-9) were demonic spirits that originated within the Egyptian pagan culture. Demons are territorial and work in gangs.
Louis – I think the information within this link supports the concept (more likely the reality) that these were not “snakes” but demonic spirits.
http://www.ha-nachash.info/2009/02/seraphim-winged-serpents.html
So then, we should be able to discern what the Lord means when He said the following:
“And He said to them, ‘I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in Heaven'” (Luke 10:18-20, NKJV).
Maybe we can be more confident that what we read in this passage within Revelation is referring to demonic spirits and not simply, literally “scorpions”.
“And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron, and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle. They had tails like scorpions, and there were stings in their tails. Their power was to hurt men five months. And they had as king over them the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, but in Greek he has the name Apollyon” (Revelation 9:9-11, NKJV).
Blessings
Psalm 25
taking it at face value, they were vipers in the desert……symbolically, they could be demons.
Louis,
Your post led me to looking deeper into the occult of Egypt. But, not too deep.
That culture is the foundation of the modern occult movement. It is deep within our western culture (“illuminati”) with its “third eye”. It is all about the symbols, yes?
What you shared was very helpful. It put me on a quick study course of about 4 hours. I located this link, which is a good, college introduction or seminar level presentation.
Maybe others who are following this tread will find helpful information. If you have any links that you could share – please reply.
They say George Washington is the father of our country.
After watching this video presentation, I now know why they build the GW Memorial. He is the spiritual father of the spiritual Babylon.
Blessings
Psalm 27
Marianne
As I have no interest in the “modern occult movement.” – (whatever that may be)
I have no response. Sorry
I met a serpent in 1995.due to sin I was deceived and my life has been totally destroyed.I can’t work, no money.nowhere to live.they are REAL!they are here in hollywood,FLBe WARE!if you were not smart about money in your lifetime they are also called the green slime/PRINCE of MONEY.Jesus is the only way .be blessed.
I guess I have to write.this again.Beware of serpents.They do exist.they are walking around in street clothes.If you are not SMART about money,the are called the green slime.Or the Prince of MONEY.they are here in hillywood,FL.Jesus is the only way,the truth and the life.be blessed
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