High Priest Must be Married

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How, and why, does the marriage qualify him to enter the Holy of Holies?

Marriage Requirement for Priest

http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/7689-high-priest

Leviticus 21

The high priest must be married, and "should only marry a virgin"

13 And he shall take a wife in her virginity.

14 A widow, or one divorced, or a profaned woman, or a harlot, these shall he not take; but a virgin of his own people shall he take to wife.

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Jewish wedding takes place in 2 stages:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_wedding

Technically, the Jewish wedding process has two distinct stages:

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[1] kiddushin (sanctification or dedication, also called erusin, betrothal in Hebrew) and nissuin (marriage), when the couple start their life together.

The first stage prohibits the woman to all other men, requiring a religious divorce (Get) to dissolve, and

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the final stage permits the couple to each other. The ceremony that accomplishes nisuin is known as chuppah.[2]

Before the wedding ceremony, the ketubah, or marriage contract, is signed in the presence of two witnesses.[4]

The ketubah details the husband’s obligations to his wife, among which are food, clothing, and marital relations.

This document has the standing of a legally binding agreement. It is often written as an illuminated manuscript that is framed and displayed in their home.[5]

Under the chuppa, it is traditional to read the signed ketubah aloud, usually in the Aramaic original, but sometimes in translation.

Traditionally, this is done to separate the two basic parts of the wedding.[6]

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Why marriage is needed

According to Jewish thought, the Cohen HaGadol had to have the divine presence in his life, and be able to share this divine presence with others.

There are two great commandments:

Love God

Love others

So the High priest could not come before the Lord God unless he was married, and carried both the love of God and others with him.

He fulfilled the love of others by loving a wife.

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Jesus / Yahshua did not enter the holy of holies while on this earth

There is no record of him interceding for His people before He came to earth either.

This is because he was “single.”

He was not married yet.

Only when he died, did he give birth to his Bride, the church.

To have a Bride, she had to be pure, sinless, like a virgin.

But the Bride Israel had sin, and had to be purified and sanctified.

So he had to die to have her sins covered with his holy blood, so he could have a pure wife before appearing before the Father.

Once he had His Bride purified and sanctified, He was then able to enter the Holy of Holies in heaven, and intercede for her.

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Stage One and Two

Yahshua accomplished stage one of the marriage.

The Father and the Holy Spirit were the two witnesses to his marriage contract.

He sanctified his bride, and made the promises to provide for her.

The marriage supper of the Lamb will consummate this marriage in heaven for Stage Two.

His Bride now awaits the consummation!

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45 Responses to “High Priest Must be Married”

  1. Nice to think of and dream of.

  2. Marriage for the High Priest is a no brainer.

    What’s interesting is that the High Priest that you have pictured bears a striking resemblance to Ron Wyatt

  3. You didn’t mention Ezekiel 44 ? It is about the priests.

  4. Lol

  5. Lev. 21 is part of the commandments for the kohanim. The meaning of this verse? All the offspring of the priesthood, who are leaders among the people are “sanctified” to God. And if a kohen marries one of these women mentioned in the verse, he “profanes” his honor and his “offspring” and the offspring will not be worthy of the holiness and would be considered desecration. Having a virgin wife eliminates outside influences that may have been handed down or incurred by other means [ i.e. pagan practices etc. ] which would cause the husband to also follow those practices. The end result would be a blemished kohen which can not serve.

  6. Hi all,

    In deed, the virgin conception figures out in this manner of marriage, whereby the spiritual birth is realized without the reality of the mode of conception that is widely known. The Lord bears within the spiritually inclined in this manner, but in the hidden way is the husband that is married to us and spiritually brings forth seed within us, whereby being unrealized by the world, is accredited as a virgin conception, for they realize not the Spirit of the Lord. I perceive that the Lord as High priest forever has always been married to the creation of his hands in this manner of mystery.

    Off the topic, this morning I had an epiphany in regard to the last words that the Lord uttered upon the cross. The worlds are said to have been to the effect of Eloi eloi Rama Sabachthani, and have been interpreted as to have meant, my Lord my Lord, why have you forsaken me. It is also reported that those present had presumed that the Lord was calling for Eli, the Elias. Thus it is apparent that although the Lord uttered these words, their meaning has not always been apparent.

    Now the Lord is One, and that he was calling upon his Father, who ostensibly happens to be in himself, or that it was himself, makes this last message of Christ upon the cross to be a parable. The closest Eloi has in the Scriptures is El roi, which has been interpreted as my Shepherd, but really directly means the supreme vision and hence the connotation to that the Lord sees, and hence the shepherd aspect. In the Sanskrit language, El rohi means exactly that, the supreme vision, or just rather THE vision, wherein there is none other like unto it. Now the rest of the words were really in the Sanskrit language, or the aspect of it that it shares with Hebrew. For Rama is known to mean the exalted in Hebrew, and in sanskrit translates as Radiant (ra) truth(ma). Sabaki, as in the Kenya river of this name means the way(sa) to the mountain(ki) of great illumination(Bha) and equates to the way to the greatness of God. The last aspect of dhani means to bestow (dha=tha). Indeed, when the Saviour was dying at the cross, he was not apologetic of the path and cup he was fulfilling, and therefore was not at worry nor doubt that he had been forsaken, for how would God ever forsake his obedient and only begotten self? Rather, the Lord took opportunity to declare to all the universe El Rohi, El Rohi, Rama Sabaki dhani, which was in Sanskrit based affirmation of, The supreme vision, the supreme vision, The radiant truth of the way to the heights of Illumination (God) is now bestowed/revealed. That indeed was what happened at the cross, for immediately thereafter, the partition to the holy of hollies was rent, as witnesses Paul, manifesting the way to the ultimate truth.

    This once again demonstrates that the Lord was conversant with the Sanskrit based understanding of language, for from such an ancient tongue as this, the language of the gods that predated all other languages on earth, and from when all language on earth is derived, are concealed many treasures of knowledge and understanding, which according to certain native American prophecies is a key to a universal paradox that reveal the plan of God for the universe when aptly decoded at the latter days, which days is now.

    I will not tire to narrate how the whole world is described in this ancient language, and whose meanings derivations indeed are a blue-print for the earth, or rather the design of the earth as the Creator intended. Since that intent should ultimately be adhered to for the well being of all, it is evident, that all the ills of earth are as a result of ignorance of these basic truths.

    I also dis come across Korean prophecies that describe these similar intonations, regarding the region on earth represented by the white cross, the Crux constellation if you will. The same is referred to by the mound of the cross in Ohio, as an ancient native American prophetic installation. I will almost stop here, that there is a connection between the Mau mau of the Agikuyu, with the Maji maji of the Nguni, the Maasauu of the Native American Hopi, and the Korean prophecies, with the Hebrew faith and prophecies, and all other prophecies of the end times. That time is in upon us, and we are being overtaken by events due to our ignorance.

    May the Lord take pity on us and enlighten all who will.

    God bless you all.

  7. This article is false and is not consistent with the Hebrew Scriptures nor with history but is in fact a horrible misinterpretation of the sentence structure of the King James grammar. A high priest DOES NOT HAVE TO be married. The Law of God merely stated that WHEN a high priest marries, his bride must be a virgin.

    Jesus Himself is THE High Priest and He is not married – and in fact He will not be married until the very end of all things (Read Revelation 20-22). The Marriage Supper of the Lamb hasn’t occurred yet – precisely because the MARRIAGE of the Lamb hasn’t occurred yet!

    Please stop adding to God’s Law and rewriting history.

  8. If the creator was not always married to creation, from the inception of all that there is, then I think the redefinition of spiritual marriage needs to be done. For what God joins to himself, let no man separate. I would suppose that the case of the world was a separation from this marriage caused by disobedience to the will of God, and hence, the Lord had to die to RE-concile us to himself, for only was He as High priest necessitated to marry a virgin, but in our separation, we were no longer virgins, and this plan had to be devised to our favour, lest none of our sorry selves would ever have returned to the original marriage. Likewise in the covenant we must be born again, to create our second spiritual virginity whereon then we can thereafter participate in the spiritual union to our Lord. The supper may yet not be, but we are told every time a penitent returns to the right way, there is a sort of celebratory mood in heaven, and if this is not a betrothal, just awaiting the confirmation in the marriage supper, well… A betrothed bride I think is almost married, especially when we realize that the Groom is the master of time too.

  9. I am Married to another
    I say again, I am not a worm, though I am in the image of the worm. The Bible said that as you’ve born the image of the earthy, the earthworm, so shall you bear the image of the heavenly, the butterfly. That is, the resurrected Christ and I bear the image of the first man Adam, Jesus, who was made sin and went to Calvary. I died from that by the mercies of God through Jesus Christ, and
    “I am now alive as the resurrected Christ, and my innermost is married to another. My life, my soul, they’re not married to the image of the outer. That is, I am not married to Lucifer anymore who was my master through the weakness of my flesh. He is cast out and gone, and Paul said that we’re married to another, even the Christ that lives in the new body. He is my husband. I’m resurrected from the dead.”
    That is why the Bible uses the terms that a woman is married to her husband so long as he lives. How else could it be? If Lucifer lives in your body and you are alive in the body, isn’t he your master as long as you are alive in the flesh? “How then can I be free from my husband,” a woman would say? He’s got to die! For if this outer man perish, yet the inner man is renewed day by day. If this outer man dies, then Lucifer has no control over my soul anymore. Isn’t that right? So then, if my soul is transferred to that new body and if I am changing generations by the washing of the water of the Word as I pass through the Spirit over to a new body, then I’ve got a new life. For when you are born again you get a new body, and I got a new life that brings forth a new body. In this new body there lives a new master. I have a new husband even Jesus Christ. So, I’m dead to the old and alive to the new.
    When we think about this, we realize that we’re not trying to get saved. We’ve always been the sons of God. When was there a day when I wasn’t the son of God? There never has been such a day.

    • Tom,

      You say above, “For when you are born again you get a new body”???

      Well I suspect that everybody who reads that will simply disagree, because all they have to do is look into a mirror and see their same body.
      When we are “born again” we are born of the Spirit and the Spirit of God becomes a part of our inner man, but we maintain and keep our same bodies.
      And if you think that you are not a sinner then you are delusional and the truth is not in you.

      “If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.” 1 John 1:8-10.

      We do our best and battle the flesh each and every day, but not one of us is perfected yet, for we are not glorified yet, because Yeshua has not returned yet.

    • tom

      I would not interpret my spirit being new as the same as having my body being a new body. the spirit body and the physical body are different.

  10. to ? -to whom it may concern
    Jesus returned on Pentecost. Into them. That is the “Coming that millions and millions will miss out on. Get filled with the Spirit is your only hope – it will lead you to all truth. That is the Evidence that kills the Beast within. Jesus called them “Dogs” in St. Mark. A dog is a beast the last I heard.

    • Tom,

      As many of us here have attempted to explain to you over and over, (and over) again……..
      Yeshua has NOT returned yet!
      And the Resurrection has occurred yet either!

      You simply have “NO CLUE” as to what you are talking about!

      • Hi Alienated, Tom and all,

        I beg to differ, for I deem that both of your positions are correct, and likewise wrong. It all depends on the angle from which we look the subject.

        First things first, it is known that God fills the entire universe. Therefore, God is not restricted to the heavens, but is likewise on earth. Now we may say that is God, and not Jesus, but they are one and the same thing. In fact, in the olden times, Jesus traversed the earth as often as He willed, and nobody nor any power could prevent Him from so doing. Why would it be any different in the latter days? Would Jesus be restricted to sitting in a throne high up in heaven now for almost two millenniums before coming down to look at how matters were doing upon earth? Why is it that in the Revelation letters to the seven churches, the Lord talks of coming at the end of almost each Church age, to serve in this or that matter. Indeed, Jesus did come back in the clouds of heaven as he has promised the Chief Priest who presided over the judgement of crucifixion, and that matter was accomplished in AD 68 to 70 at the judgement against Jerusalem. The Lord has returned to factor in judgement against the earth and the nations at various other times, but none of these times however brought a final closure to the matter of evil upon earth.

        That final closure is what most people refer to and understand as the particular coming in the clouds of heaven, and indeed it is so, yet all the others had also held equal weight at their time. What makes this one of great importance is the appointed time, its magnitude and intended accomplishment. For thereafter the universe enters into the Sabbath millennium.

        In summary, Jesus has come back to earth many times as He willed, both to look around, as well as to judge. However, the day of the Lord has never arrived and is the appointed time when He descends eventually to bring a closure and an end to evil and its manifestations. That day of the Lord did not arrive at Pentecost, and does not arrive when one believes, but is an appointed time, and is just about to come to be.

        That is my understanding of the matter and glad to share with you, and I also have garnered much from your contributions.

        Blessings!

        • Hi John,

          The only true instrument in which we can utilize to distinguish between right and wrong is the Word of God. Whatever God happens to say is most definitely true. However how what is said has been interpreted or perceived by man, is what has left us with all of these incorrect doctrines.

          Within that of your opening comment, I could assume that you are a proponent of either “Pantheism”, (which consists of the belief that God and nature are the same in essence and cannot be distinguished), or perhaps even that of “Panentheism”, which in some respects appears initially to contain an aspect of truth.

          Panentheism holds the belief that God is indeed greater than that of the universe. But that the whole of the universe and that of nature are permeated by His Glory to the extent that God is a part of nature, yet also extends beyond nature, so therefore is also distinguishable from nature itself.
          Yet many of the beliefs of panentheism are simply unbiblical in that it denies the incarnation of Yeshua, (as well as His atoning Sacrifice), and that of Gods transcendent nature.

          It is apparent to me by your comments, that you do not hold to the belief of a Trinity. That God in being One, could also be comprised of Three in One whereas each can be distinct from Each Other yet still be as One. Though I would agree that this is understandably a difficult concept for man to fully comprehend, it is only that finite capacity of mans mind in not being able to comprehend, which then limits the limitless potential of God.

          The theology of the Trinity is the only possible way to begin to understand New Covenant Scripture, and to therefore comprehend the sequence of events.
          For just one brief example of this, how else could the below verses possibly be explained?
          Matthew 12:31-32.;

          “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy [against] the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come.”

          If Yeshua and the Holy Spirit are One and the Same without any distinction between them whatsoever, how is the above even possible?
          If I speak a word against Yeshua I will be forgiven, but if I speak a word against Yeshua I won’t be forgiven???

          Above you pose the question; “Why is it that in the Revelation letters to the seven churches, the Lord talks of coming at the end of almost each Church age, to serve in this or that matter?”

          My reply;

          Well in my opinion John, I believe that your first mistake is that you have taken each singular epistle and have concluded that as being an entire “Church Age” itself, rather than understanding that 7 denotes “completeness”, and that All of the epistles combined would be describing, “one solitary Church Age”.

          You then state;
          “Indeed, Jesus did come back in the clouds of heaven as he has promised the Chief Priest who presided over the judgement of crucifixion, and that matter was accomplished in AD 68 to 70 at the judgement against Jerusalem.”

          My reply;

          Really?
          Well then, since the consensus of most modern scholars believe that the Book of Revelation was written around 95 AD, (with some believing that it dates back as far as 70 AD.), perhaps you could provide a verse of Scripture that even comes close to being supportive to what you speculate above?

          You then say;
          “The Lord has returned to factor in judgement against the earth and the nations at various other times, but none of these times however brought a final closure to the matter of evil upon earth.”

          My reply;
          “I would agree with the latter part of your comment, but you do appear to me to be confusing some of the historical examples of judgements, like the Flood or that of Sodom and Gomorrah that God has performed, (which are to be understood as being warnings from God for our benefit), to that of the prophesised “Day of the Lord” which would also include that of “Jacobs trouble” and the “trial and testing that will come upon the whole of the world” as described in Revelation 3:10. These historical events and the coming “Day of the Lord” are entirely different events.

          Then you say;
          “That final closure is what most people refer to and understand as the particular coming in the clouds of heaven, and indeed it is so, yet all the others had also held equal weight at their time. What makes this one of great importance is the appointed time, its magnitude and intended accomplishment. For thereafter the universe enters into the Sabbath millennium.”

          My reply;

          Well it is exactly “this final closure” that is the topic of discussion. However I don’t believe that anything that has happened in the past, will in comparison, demonstrate anything similar to that of being equal in weight.
          And please excuse me if I appear to be a little confused here John, but didn’t you just proclaim above that, “Indeed, Jesus did come back in the clouds of heaven as he has promised the Chief Priest who presided over the judgement of crucifixion, and that matter was accomplished in AD 68 to 70 at the judgement against Jerusalem.”?

          So which is it? Are you saying that Yeshua is a proverbial Yo-Yo, bouncing back and forth arbitrarily without any real intention or purpose?

          In all seriousness, (placing humour aside), when the Apostles speak within their epistles of the “coming return of the Lord Yeshua”, they are referring to specifics, with the initial and each subsequent return being clearly comprised of accomplishing a specific intention and purpose.

          Where there is No confusion, (or disagreement for that matter), where you say the below though;
          “However, the day of the Lord has never arrived and is the appointed time when He descends eventually to bring a closure and an end to evil and its manifestations. That day of the Lord did not arrive at Pentecost, and does not arrive when one believes, but is an appointed time, and is just about to come to be.”

          This is the point that Tom is unable to grasp and which many of us here are in disagreement with in regards his theology.
          Since Tom is unable to comprehend the understanding of the Trinity, he therefore is unable to distinguish between what has occurred and what hasn’t occurred and has instead jumbled much of Scripture together incorrectly.

          He believes that he is “glorified” already since the “resurrection” in his mind, has already taken place at Shavu’ot, (or Pentecost). He believe that he is experiencing “heaven on earth” having been entirely “sanctified” and now has the “mind of Yeshua”. He believes that “hell” is a construct of man, and not a specific destination, and that “satan” is only that of the “evil of man” rather than that of a specific purpose driven entity. He believes that the “Book of Revelation” has already been fulfilled in its entirety as well, rather than it consisting of prophetic events that are still to be revealed within the future.

          Within his last post that he has placed here, (either just above or below depending as to where this post is situated), you can clearly see for yourself as to how he jumbles entirely different aspects of Scripture together in a rather elementary attempt to substantiate his theology.

          This is why I continue to rebuke the comments that he makes here.
          If Paul states in 2 Timothy 2:15-18. the below, which was written years and years after Shavu’ot or Pentecost when the Holy Spirit was given and the Church was born;

          “Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane [and] idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness. And their message will spread like cancer. Hymenaeus and Philetus are of this sort, who have strayed concerning the truth, saying that the resurrection is already past; and they overthrow the faith of some.”

          Yet Tom says that the “resurrection” has already taken place, who will you believe? Paul or Tom?
          Tom is clearly in error!

          Be Blessed in Yeshua HaMashiach our soon to return KING of kings.
          Amen.

          • Hi Alienated,

            Glad we agree on the most important and relevant of aspects. As the truth abides always and it is our perception of it that keeps on growing, lets keep questing and live in that hope that we shall eventually achieve to that goal.

            Pantheism or Panentheism had not yet clearly entered my limited vocabulary and thanks for shedding light on such words. No matter how we describe God however, He remains the same, regardless of our arguments. Indeed, before the first books of the Bible were ever penned down, there was God, and he was known in all His attributes and glory. In fact, what I find in the Bible is just a mere mention of part of His attributes, which we however find written all over in the matrix of the entire universe. As regards the term trinity, it is a matter I would always wish to steer away from, for not by great knowledge do we increase in love, but rather in loving are we increased in knowledge. You see, the particular verse that describes blasphemy against the Holy spirit not being forgiven, while the other two could be forgiven is a rather difficult one. For the Holy spirit witnesses within our person, and in our very lives, while the Father and the son witness in the written word and without us. Hence, mis-comprehension of that witness that is told us may be forgiven, but not that which is particular to us by the Holy spirit. Now in browsing about prophecies and such like matters, it is witnessed that the devils crown is of a trinity nature. However, the greatest law records that the Lord God is one Lord, who however has served in all the official capacities of God. In modern times, we find for instance that the king of a country is also the Chief of staff of its armed forces, as well as such other attributes as the lead parent, teacher, farmer and what have you. All these various capacities however never makes this person multiple, but he remains one monarch. During war, one may wrong the monarch in his official capacity as the leas soldier, but has not wronged him as the lead teacher or such other. It is God who fills all the offices of the Universe, from Creator, to redeemer, teacher, counselor and such like. All that the scriptures are saying is that we may escape damnation in failing to regard the Lord’s official capacity of Father, (Creator/Sustainer), Son(Redeemer), but not the Holy-Spirit (Counselor and Guide). Indeed we may not be clear at this point, and I will not pretend to be in the know, except for the signs that we all observe, such that the Lord’s throne in heaven according to biblical record only had room of one throne and not three.

            It is written indeed that Jesus did speak to the chief-priest in that regard, that thereafter they would see him coming in the clouds of heaven in power and great glory. If this was not a parable, then it has not yet occurred. But if coming in the clouds of heaven in power and great glory denotes judgements of God upon the world, for by his clouds is it written that he judges the earth, then it did occurred in 70AD, and continue to occur, and finally will it culminate at the dawn of the time, the appointed day of the Lord, being one and not many. In the record of the revelation, at whatever time it was given, the Ephesian Church period according to my understanding was still running, and that had no bearing on the judgements of 70AD against Jerusalem.

            Glad to be sharing with you all, and lets keep on in this spirit of sharpening each others wits, and also let us do it in the Spirit of humility and love, as our Lord and Master would.

  11. First of all Bro.John – I appreciate your post and agree with most except for the last couple lines. I agree that just believing is not the “Day of the Lord” But being “Caught up into the Spirit” is. The disciples were believers, and were sanctified by the Words of the Master Jesus for 3 or better years. Then He said he had to go away but would come back to them with the Father=Holy Spirit. That is exactly what He did at Pentecost. Those 120 seen their Day and their Message. The cloud with the Pillar of Fire. Same as in Moses day. Types and shadows of God being seen.

    Acts. 1 Jesus left in a cloud and came back in a cloud and fire. We could go on and on about it. But that is the basis of what my Revelation shows me. Remember the Cloud was over them in the day.Paul said in Hebrews we got the same cloud of witness over us . And then fire was at Night. At Penetcost they got both. Old time saints rose for a witness, and the Pillar of fire was over their heads. That fire came into them to burn them out and destroy the beast that was with in. In their age of the beast that devourers.

    Lord bless you brother.

    • matthew 24 says we will see him in the sky…

    • Hi Tom,

      God bless you and thanks for sharing. Indeed, the day that each one of us comes to the Lord is it. For without it, there would be no other. In Hebrews, there is mention of yet another day that remains, although all importance really abides in the time we come to the Lord spiritually. When you look at the world about us, the rot and evil eating into society, than you come to realize, that whereas individually we may be in the Lord’s rest, yet the planet by default of evil is not. The appointment for when the planet too is granted this rest is the other important day and period that yet remains, which generations of godly people have longed for and awaited, and is really very close now.

      Much blessings!

  12. ? you said – the only way to distinguish between right and wrong is the Word of God.
    Then in same post you say – this is “my opinion”

    The written word has to be “Revealed by the Spirit. not an opinion.

    • Tom,

      Since you are obviously a scholar of linguistics, you would have no difficulty in understanding the following;

      “It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.”

      Not that I had doubted in the past.

  13. Marianne – the Air God breathed into Adam – and the Air Jesus blew on the disciples were the Holy Ghost. God is AIR – God is a Spirit – Real simple if you would only believe it. Its been proved to be the truth.

    The 120 not only had cloven “tongues of fire” over them – God the consuming fire. But they also got “caught up” with Eternal life – Though they always had it by faith. Their name was on the book Jesus said.

    Their “Day of the Lord” was the Great revelation of “Jesus Christ the Mystery IN THEM” became real in their Temple not made by hands.

    Then what did they do – Straight to the Word of God continually- that is what Air of God The Holy ghost will do to us all when we have our “day of the Lord revelation” unveiled to us. Its sooo awesome. They got lifted up .

  14. Dear Marianne – Yes indeed it is a Warfare until you Overcome by the Word of your Testimony and Love Christ to the Death.
    Jesus won the “greatest battle ever fought” warfare . His life was a warfare but He Overcome it.
    His Seal was the Seal of God – And Satan could not touch Him. Just tempt Him. Jesus had great tribulations. but Overcame them all. I hope we can agree dear sister.

    I first had my “day of sin following satan” with my mind, heart, and body and soul.
    Then Jesus raptured me into His mind, body, and soul and heart. I left the world behind and entered into the Kingdom of Gods world.

    Lord bless you Marianne with revelation is my prayer. But we have to hear the Message for this hour. Every age has its Message. Behind us is rotten manna. We must fight or die.

    • I think there is rotten manna now as well, as we are in the great falling away, with all sorts of doctrines of greed, and straying from the Word of God.

      Every age is a battle, and it is true, we must fight or die.

  15. Light of understanding
    When my eyes of understanding became single, then my whole body became full of Light! Christ in me is that Light, His Mind is that Light, If my body if full of light then is it not already transfigured and changed!

    It is Finished
    when Jesus aid, “It Is Finished.” We have passed from death unto life. We have done it, Christian friend. We are no longer among the dead. We are no longer accounted for as beasts but, we are a Church without spot, without wrinkle, without blemish, without any contrary thing to God; because, all the spots and blemishes were in the carnal mind; and, God crossed the Jordan, back there at Calvary, and put us on this side of it.

    It is finished #2 – defeating Anti christ
    Seeing Him, smitten of God, to make an end, Jesus said, “It Is Finished.” I have defeated the beast.
    1 He left the body hanging up there, as a symbol of the defeated, beastly antichrist,
    went down into the hollow of the earth, and picked up the souls in prison, that had been put down there, because of the beast, and, took them out, and stood them in the presence of God. The Bible says, “The saints of God got up out of the earth, and began to walk around.” I will tell you, if that was good enough for them, it is good enough for me.

    Read it slow
    This posted below is detail proof that where was once in the flesh we are now in the Spirit and Hear, really hear what He is saying in detail of what this NEW Mind in us has done for our bodies! Read this slow and careful!
    If the world is within the unregenerated hearts, as a man thinketh in his heart, or, whatever the composition of thoughts are, the heart’s constitution will give forth the daily issues of life. Unbelief produces the gravitational powers to create the imprisonment of the human body and soul, unto bondage and death. You cannot escape your environment, because your reversed believing or thinking, constitutes natural walls of obstacle and opposition, whereas, in the spiritual mind, your body can decompose; the wall, also, by the right believing, decomposes, the atoms of the body, being controlled by your thought pattern; likewise, faith, controlling the atoms that are in the wall, the kingdom within you, that is born again; producing the thought pattern of Christ, the God-mind over matter, subjects everything to you, as to God’s first created Adam, so then, you could pass right on through the wall, as Jesus did after His resurrection.

    • Tom,

      Okay…. practice what you preach then, (or what you copy and paste from some website somewhere). If indeed it is all said and done and we have bee resurrected, just like Yeshua was, then head outside and find a concrete wall of some building and take a run at it full steam from about 15 to 20 feet away and see if you can pass right through that wall.

      After you come to from your comatose state of unconsciousness, then you may realize, that when Yeshua said, “It is Finished” that He was referring to His sacrifice and not that of the “end of everything” itself.

      Hey let me know how the above works out for ya after you try it.
      Try to remember these numbers here, “9-1-1”

  16. To ?
    if Jesus told me to walk through a wall. I would walk through a wall. Sorry about you. The walked on the water in the 1970’s in China when there was great persecutions going on. Some escaped that way. It’s just to bad that you do not believe in anything supernatural. How can you believe in a Rapture then. You are in total darkness. Do you even understand that the Holy Spirit is suppose to live in you. That is Christ. I pray that someday you will understand what a New Birth is. Not baptism in water, not communion, not signing your name on a book, not does and dont’s, But a New Creation by the Holy Ghost. I do not believe you even know what I’m talking about. I pray for you that you will see the basic’s of a salvation is the Holy ghost living IN YOU>

    Ole hippy signing out

    • Response to a %*#@,

      Why would you have to wait until Yeshua asked you?
      If you indeed had a “glorified body” here and now like Yeshua’s, you could simply be able to do it here and now too.

      Of course I believe in the Supernatural, (and have probably witnessed far more of it manifest in my life than you have), and that would be one of the reasons that I also hold to the view of a “rapture”.

      In regards to the “total darkness” statement you make, I could simply say the same about you.

      Of course I understand that the Holy Spirit dwells within me, that is clearly stated within Scripture, however the Holy Spirit is not the Messiah.

      Though nobody can fully explain as to how God is comprised, it is your inability in not having the intellectual capacity or the necessary faith to even entertain the concept of a Trinity. Hence your ridiculous doctrine.

      Explain to me what I had posted above.

      “The theology of the Trinity is the only possible way to begin to understand New Covenant Scripture, and to therefore comprehend the sequence of events.
      For just one brief example of this, how else could the below verses possibly be explained?
      Matthew 12:31-32.;

      “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy [against] the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come.”

      If Yeshua and the Holy Spirit are One and the Same without any distinction between them whatsoever, how is the above even possible?
      If I speak a word against Yeshua I will be forgiven, but if I speak a word against Yeshua I won’t be forgiven???

      Unfortunately, I do happen to know what you are talking about, (though it takes sometime to decipher your grammar. Like your “not does and don’ts” above.) But it is because I understand, that I and others here contend with you, because none of us agree with what you have to say, and we know and understand that it is false teaching, and in error.

      In your own pride and arrogance, (which I have been told is a particular trait of those that hold your view), you say that you pray for others to understand.

      Perhaps you should take the time to humble yourself and approach the Almighty instead, and see what God the Father believes regarding how you interpret His Word?

      For it is clearly fragmented, convoluted and misconstrued.

      a.

  17. oh ? – how long must I bear with thee. Now you are wanting to talk about the Trinity – – I always told you all that you was Trinitarians. Believe your Catholic doctrines if you want to. But I do not even feel led to bring it up. As I have spoke on it several times. But it went right over your heads cause its a mystery. Here are the only scriptures I am sending in on this subject. This should convince anybody that wants to know the truth.

    I TIM 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
    1 TIM 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;

    JOHN 5:8 – And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
    God is ONE —– Man is agree in one.

    I JOHN 2:23- Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. BINGO

    Soooooooo simple – You ought to be able to take these scripture’s literally.

    Jesus said God is a Spirit — Guess what — He sure is — called Holy Spirit

    I do not need to go no further cause you will just come up with crazy stuff. That would last for months.

    Talk at you later alligator —– The Ole Hippy checking out.

    • Tom lol.

      There is the pot calling the kettle black. lol.
      The term Preterism comes from the Latin “praeter”, which is listed in Webster’s 1913 dictionary as a prefix denoting that something is “past” or “beyond”.
      Hmmm, what Church is infamously known for utilizing Latin?
      You are simply a spoon fed student that regurgitates the unmitigated twaddle of the Jesuit-Romanist doctrine of Preterism.
      One that was devised by the Catholic Church itself. You denounce the mother that birthed your own doctrine and only further demonstrate that of your own ignorance.

      How come you didn’t address and explain Matthew 12:31,32. above?
      And why am I not surprised?

      Hey, you don’t have to bear with any of us here at all. All you have to do is take your misconstrued and convoluted doctrine and leave!
      Exit stage left. Be like Elvis and leave the building. Call it a day and punch the clock.

      Its been nice knowing you.
      Take Care now.
      Bye-bye.
      Ciao.

      a.

      P.S. Perhaps the ole hippy comment within your sign off explains a few things? You did a lot of “acid” back then didn’t you.

  18. Answering a few questions
    QUESTION – Why would you have to wait until Yeshua asked you?
    ANSWER – Jesus said I can do nothing except the Father show me first.

    QUESTION – Of course I understand that the Holy Spirit dwells within me, that is clearly stated within Scripture, however the Holy Spirit is not the Messiah.
    ANSWER – Messiah was God=Spirit wrapped in flesh Body. You cannot feel the sufferings of your Creation if you do not become one of them. – He was the 2nd. Adam. The quickening Spirit. God had to become a Man to die as a Lamb. This is what the Shadow of the O.T taught – And sure enough Israel as a whole it was to much a mystery to understand.

    QUESTION – “Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy [against] the Spirit will not be forgiven men. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the [age] to come.”
    ANSWER – God had to become a Man in order to die as a Lamb = Son of God/Man so that the promise of your inheritance of God raising you up again from the Curse and putting you back into the Garden of bliss. . So you could live a Blessed life as Only the Holy Spirit in you can do this.

    BUT LISTEN UP NOW anybody that will hear – If you Reject the Spirit of God coming into you to live. Yea – you have rejected you own Salvation. You have blasphemed the only Door out of this World. Man does that every day – rejects Jesus Christ – Christ is the anointing. That comes INTO YOU by Faith – NOW – You repent and pray until you know you are full of the Holy Spirit. He sees your groanings and fills you with the Holy Spirit.
    SIN is DOUBT and if you doubt what Jesus Christ done for you. Then that makes it IMPOSSIBLE for you to be full of the HOLY GHOST and you reject that GREAT GIFT – You are lost – Christ will not force Himself on you. He is a gentleman.

    This is all I have really tried to get to the people in my generation. Christ is a Mystery IN YOU. Col. 1:24-29 somewhere in there. Don’t we understand that the Disciples did not understand this either. UNTIL PENTECOST – If you have not had an experience at Pentecost then you are still in your sins. I love you and not putting you down. This is truth that you must have knowledge of or perish. Jesus said.

    • Tom,

      I have decided to wash my hands regarding you for now.
      I have blown the Shofar of warning, and I will allow for others to decide whether or not what you have to say is false or not.
      I have come to understand that my expectations regarding you were unrealistic and that no matter how much I may contend, that you are stuck in your ways and that of your belief. So it is simply pointless to continue.

      I leave you in the Fathers hands and the upcoming Bema Seat Judgement that we will all partake in.

      Praise be unto Yeshua our KING of kings.
      May He return in His glory soon.

      • good. it is best to focus on more immediate things that entail your survival and ultimate welfare…..trouble is ahead for all of us….

  19. Hi Marianne,

    I’m not concerned really about what is about to come in the future.
    Yeshua’s Judgement will be just whether I happen to stay or be permitted to leave. What will be will be.

    And though I have received and have taken hold of the love according to truth within my heart , I am I think, prepared for whatever happens either way.

    Be Blessed in Yeshua our KING of Righteousness.

    a.

  20. Well I answered you questions the best I could. You need to do whatever you think you ought to. But I do not think you can run from it. If you are a chosen Vessel. The Word has to come to you sooner or later. I hope you can really get your “Ears to hear” what the Spirit is crying out to show you.

    The Wide gate is the gate to Hell. The Narrow gate is the Gate to Eternal life. Jesus said It and I just believe it. But Like Paul he was sooooo against Christianity but when He seen that Light and Heard the Voice and fell off his horse. His hard head started to listen to that Voice of God that was always trying to tell him. I look at you the same way. You would be a awesome follower of Jesus if you had some “Revelation of the Word” and not just an educated schooling in the word. You could be used greatly for His sake.

    Jesus is still looking for the Few good men and women that can be taught. That is why He sent me here. It was God that kept you bugging me and talking to me. Swallow the pride and Learn of God. Blessed are the Poor in Spirit – they know they need help. You cannot fool Christ.
    Have a good life. Bro. ty

    • I would appreciate it if you would not talk to me, or respond to any post that I may happen to make if it is not directly that of your concern.

      You have no idea as to the depth of my relationship with Yeshua, and your arrogance in that you believe that you were actually “sent here” to educate others, (when you have clearly demonstrated to many here that you do not understand “clue one”) is absurd.

      I believe that down the road you will be in for one heck of a surprise.
      For you don’t comprehend the meaning of the texts like Matthew 24:42., 25:13., Mark 13:35., and 13:37. etc.

    • Ty
      I do not know if you read the comments I wrote to Alienated on the “Shattered” page here, But they were Addressed to you as well.

      Your statement Above, about Alienated swallowing his pride is a bit much. In fact with me confronting him about the debate between you two he has exemplified humility in stepping back from the debate. I suggest you do the same.

      Sometimes when two equal and opposite forces collide, the result can be a bad testimony of the Christian character of both of those individuals. That does not mean that neither has viable points that they are making. Right now, however, you cannot see any viability in what Alienated is saying, and neither does he in what you are saying. I have always said that you could learn so much from each other in the unity of the Spirit. (Ephesians 4:1-16)

      Read again, some of my comments to you on the post that I wrote here, on the Seven Spirits of God. I believe these were your first comments on this site? These seven Spirits were dispersed among the seven churches, as per revelation. Human pride has long Kept them apart….much like your debates with Alienated have shown.

      I know both of you fairly well from commenting here. I know both of you have the Holy Spirit in you, and you are not ashamed to express what the Holy Spirit in you gives you utterance to say. I see both of you as brothers. But just like the Seven Spirits of God seem to be contradictory to each other from the human perspective, for example, Love and Judgment (wrath), They are in fact one. (Read John 17 here).

      The Main point that I want you to get out of this, Is that by design, we can only have 1/7th of the Spirit of the Lord in us. To neglect the other six is a mistake on your part, that you are unaware of. Now we ALL make mistakes, so do not take this as a point of contention. I risked my relationship with Alienated to point out his, now I am pointing out what I see as yours. As one who has made both of these mistakes, I suggest that you at least give me ear on these matters.

      Blessings in Jesus Christ our Saviour and Lord, Who was and is, and is to come.

      Response not needed, as I need time to step away myself.

  21. Dru – maybe you can remember the beginning. I wrote him one post and said I did not believe the Rapture . As I recall you was with me on that point. Then ? answered back and said he would never talk to me again. Now look it up and see if that is true. Who has got the narrow mind here. Who has always wanted to rip me to pieces on about any post. I told him to leave me alone that he did not have to believe my posts. Well he is the aggressor in this situation. With his mockery, blaspheming, scoffing trying to deceive me with other names etc. I guess you went with him as well. Telling me to get off of this forum. etc. etc. etc. Always putting me down. And I did not get much help from anybody. I just like to post my post and go on. You can believe them or not. That’s fine. The first thing about maturity is that you do not get all bent out of shape if someone disagrees with you. How else you going to learn anything if you not willing to listen to other opposite sides. Peter was a real Brother to Paul. But could not understand him very well. Hard things to understand did not make Paul and false prophet. Be opened minded a little bit. I told you both I preached the exact same message you preach for years. But then I ran into a REAL PROPHET with Thus Saith the Lord. But it took me a few years to swallow his teachings. As I was already indoctrinated by Pentecostal dogma, Baptist dogma etc. Etc. Peter had to hear what Paul was saying. He did not make fun of him and call him names etc. They had something in common. they Both had the Holy Ghost – The Holy Ghost does not fight Holy Ghost – you can disagree but not to point of hating a brother.

    Lord bless you Dru – Bro. Ty
    When accepted asked for people to forgive him a month or so ago. Was I there mocking him, NO I said I have no remorse against him . I have told this Brother I love him as well. but he cannot respond with a kind word ever. My conscience is clear. It is very, very hard to relate a great Revelation and Message that dove tails together on a forum. But I do the best I can.

    Bro. Ty

    • ok everyone….let us calm down

      everyone here has a right to express themselves.

      NO one is forced to reply to someone else.

      If you do not like them, then do not communicate with them,

      just ignore them.

  22. John the Baptist was a Levite and High Priest, yet was unmarried. The priesthood changed, thus a change in the law had to be made. The Law of the Levites is no longer valid. jmho

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