Honoring the American military

 

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Outside of Christ Himself, it is the humble soldier who gives his life for his country, and the righteousness of God, that we should hold up as our greatest hero. Freedom comes with self sacrifice, not self entitlement.

We hear so much negative talk about how terrible America is, how sinful it is, how God will send it to its doom, yet we ignore all the good that is done by the righteous.

This is to honor all those, in all branches of service, who have served their country and fellow man in different ways:

It is the VETERAN, not the preacher, who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the VETERAN, not the reporter, who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the VETERAN, not the poet, who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the VETERAN, not the campus organizer, who has given us freedom to assemble.

It is the VETERAN, not the lawyer, who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the VETERAN, not the politician, who has given us the right to vote.

It is the VETERAN, who salutes the Flag,

It is the VETERAN, who serves under the Flag,

 

ETERNAL REST GRANT THEM O LORD, AND LET PERPETUAL LIGHT SHINE UPON THEM.

 

We can be very proud of our young men and women in the service no matter where they serve.

 

This also includes those who have to operate in secret, and receive no public recognition for their sacrifices.

 

God, the American military, and all protective services, have made the highest sacrifices for our nation.

God Bless them all!!!

Makes you proud to be an AMERICAN!!!!!

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78 Responses to “Honoring the American military”

  1. Hi Marianne, Both your Dad & Mom are smiling over all of us this weekend and thank you for this tribute……

  2. MY FATHER WAS A VETERAN….BACK IN WWII…STAYED A RESERVISTS UNTIL HE SUCCUMBED TO ILLNESS AT AGE 59…

    GOD REST HIS SOUL….HE WAS A MAN OF CHARACTER, GREAT HUMOR AND A BLACK MAN THAT LOVED HIS COUNTRY…

    HE HAD BECOME A PRACTICE NURSE AND WORKED AT BROOKLYN JEWISH HOSPITAL EMERGENCY ROOM…AND ALSO HE WORKED AT CREEDMOOR CHILDRENS HOSPTIAL IN QUEENS VILLAGE…

    • HI Lisa,

      You have a father to be proud of. My father was a veteran also, in several wars. Oddly enough, like your dad, he dodged all the bullets, and also got sick in his 50’s.

  3. There are those that talk negatively about America, but she is always there to bail out their sorry butts.

    My father was in the Philippines in WWII, it was terrible. Each generation has their battles for freedom and we must teach the past, protect the present, and prepare for the future.

  4. As a retired disabled veteran, and husband of a wife who is also a veteran, I would like to say thanks to all of you. The cold nights staring over the wall, peering into the eyes of Russian troops made me think of home and I felt a deep love for God and country.

  5. Hi Marianne,

    Should I or anyone else dare to object to what your post says??
    I do object!

    You say that outside of Christ, it is the soldier that gives us this or that …
    And my objection is not for America only but for any country.
    The soldier does as he is commanded no matter who he works for….
    Whether it is the U.N. , the vatican, Israel, the U.S. , etc…
    Now I’m not being disrespectful here but merely stating facts.
    Soldiers, law officers, mercenaries, etc. all do not bear the sword in vain.
    They are paid to do a job. And they do it.

    I certainly would NOT say that next to Christ comes our heroes.
    Sorry but I totally disagree!
    Are we not COMMANDED by The Lord to worship in Sprit and in truth??
    What does a soldier have to do with that??
    Honor you heroes if you must but do not even mention Christ in this scenario.
    Christ did not teach war!!

  6. Abigail, sorry, I have to object to what you have said here. My grandson was in the Marines for 4 years, spent 16 long monthe in Iraq.
    (The soldier does as he is commanded no matter who he works for….)
    You said the above. These dedicated young men were not ‘commanded’ to join to protect our freedoms. Some are already home, and have children. Many say, like my grandson, he would go back if called. He has paid a very big price, with very little pay. You are dihororing our young and old men and women who go to fight for our country.
    YES, THEY ARE MY HEROS.
    Christ lead many wars, and said there would be many wars.
    I pray God blesses all our young men coming home and having to adjust to civilian life.

    • What wars has Christ led??
      A soldier is called a soldier after he/she signed in. Whether that is done voluntarily or not.
      After that he is called a soldier and does exactly as he is commanded.
      My ancestors fought as well.

      Like I have said honor your heroes if you MUST…
      I will honor The Lord and ALL his commandments.
      ‘thou shall not kill’ is the sixth commandment of the ROYAL LAW.

      • Hi ABigail

        THe bible says that God appoints civil authority over us which uses the sword to protect us, and we should fear and respect this authority, because it is appointed from above:

        Rom 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

        Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

        Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

        Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.

        Jesus also appeared in the old testament to aid the Israeli army at Jericho. He came as the Angel of the Lord, supervising the battle.

        Jos 5:13 And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, [Art] thou for us, or for our adversaries?

        Jos 5:14 And he said, Nay; but [as] captain of the host of the LORD am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?

        ****notice that Joshua worshipped the man…and the man accepted worship. This is the preincarnate Jesus.

        Jos 5:15 And the captain of the LORD’S host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest [is] holy. And Joshua did so.

        I hope this helps.

        • Yes and The Lord put an Angel in front of the tree of Life with a flaming sword in his hand.
          Do you really think that the scriptures of Paul to the Roman Christian was intended for the roman rule??
          There is no Power but The Lord!!

          As for doing that which is GOOD, that is following Christ.

      • Thou shalt not kill…actually pertains to shedding of inocent blood or MURDER. Killing ENEMIES (criminals or belligerent nations or EVIL religious creeds) is not only justifyied but a SACRED DUTY for BELIEVERS.

    • p.s. I am certainly NOT dishonoring any one, whether young or old, whether alive or dead, whether whole or not, but I will and must honor The Lord God.

  7. Read a good Bible commentary, and we will find that “Thou shall not kill” would better be translated, “Thou shall not murder.” God Himself sent men to war, and war causes death. There are right reasons to fight wars, and wrong ones. DavWms

    • Dear David,
      Any commentary on the laws Of God, is just a commentary by man, and the Law Of The Lord Stands Firm.
      The Lord fought with His Strong Arm and defeated the enemies of Israel, therefore His enemies.
      Under The Command of The Lord Jericho fell to The Hands of The Lord.
      He that lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
      That holds true for Russia, for U.S. for North Korea and any of the countries that in their hearts do not believe that there is a God.
      There are no reasons for war other than the greed of man.
      And The Lord does not contradict Himself.
      There is a Sword that comes out of The Mouth of The Living God that will put an end to this.
      And then Judgment.
      Do you think in your heart that when The Lord says ‘Thou shall NOT kill’ that He didn’t mean it???

    • p.s.

      It would be like saying we can kill just a little bit or we can steal just a little bit or we can commit adultery under the right reasons or we under our own poverty can covet just a little bit, or we can honor the third day of the week and ignore the Sabbath of The Lord, or we can bow our knee to a king that does not know The Lord, or we can use The Name of The Lord in our vain ideas and profane His Name just a little bit for the right reasons, or we can make graven images of all things in the earth and in the sea and in the air and we can dishonor our parents and have them put away just a little bit before they die.
      No wonder the cry of America has become ‘YES WE CAN.’

  8. Abigail, have you quoted some Scriptures while forgetting others? Yes, in the end, it was God’s hand that destroyed the enemies. But He used men to kill the enemy in most cases. Not all the battles they fought were as Jericho, or when God sent an angel to kill thousands. In the war God sent Saul in to fight Amelek, He even ordered that the women and babies were to be killed. Read 1Sam15 for that. Note that when Saul did not obey that command completely, God took His grace off him.

    Nor do I choose to listen only to Bible scholars for my info. I read them to see if they might see something that got past me. I try to see the Word from every angle, knowing it is all too easy to miss truth. DavWms

    • Dear David,
      How is it easy to miss the Truth??
      When The Lord commands He does Command.
      He is King!
      When God ordered an entire people destroyed even the Children, He has His Holy reasons.
      And that was to keep HIS SEED PURE!!!
      I don’t know of a time that God who is Perfect caused or encouraged a war for self
      gratification.
      And I do not remember a place in the holy scriptures where we are told to make heroes of men.
      The word heroes is the same as ‘gods’ and stems from the Grecian Empire and adopted by Rome.
      Like Zeus and all other gods of war.

      • Abigail

        Our soldiers give their lives to keep us free. It is not for self gratification.

        A hero does not have to be a god. A hero can be someone whose life has inspired us to live a life of self sacrifice for the welfare of others.

        • Dear Marianne,

          The word of The Lord, says ‘Thou shall NOT kill’. Now if a person wants to break that Law of God they are free indeed to break it, and the same for all the ordinances of The Lord.
          But that so call freedom to break His Laws is DEATH.
          And if a person desires to chooses Barrabas over the gentile Savior that is their choice, as it was when the CROWDS called for the death of Jesus.
          And if a person desires to honor the sword of men than so be it.
          I will honor The Sword of The Lord!

  9. Abigail, please stop trying to put words in my mouth that I did not say. I said nothing about the war I spoke of (1 Sam 15)being for self-gratification. Nor did I say anything about hero worship. You may be arguing with someone else there, so I suggest if that is so, you state it to keep things clear. I do not defend either of those reasons for war.

    So what you replied to me did not answer what I said. I agree that God had the Amelekites wiped out for a good reason. But answer this, yes or no, please. Did God order men to do the killing? DavWms

  10. Joshua was out surveying city of Jericho and planning his battle strategy. How would he take this fortified city?

    Suddenly there was a dramatic, unexpected appearance of a mysterious man with a drawn sword in combat readiness. Joshua immediately went over and asked him, “Are you for us or for our adversaries?” Joshua had been waiting forty years; he was ready to fight.
    The man replied, “No; rather I indeed come now as captain of the host of the Lord”. How often do we go in to God asking the wrong questions?

    Who was this “captain of the host of the LORD”? A “host” in the Bible is an unseen army, invisible to the human eye that surrounds the throne of God. It is an angelic host. Christ said twelve legions of angels were ready to defend Him.
    Joshua immediately recognized the supernatural character of this visitor. He was in the presence of God. “And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and bowed down, and said to him, ‘What has my lord to say to his servant?'” (v. 14b). Joshua fell on his face and worshiped. The worship paid to this messenger of the LORD is directed to Yahweh Himself. Who is this person? It is sin to worship angels and men (Exodus 20; Deuteronomy 5-8; Revelation 19:10; 22:8, 9). The impact of the context of the passage indicates that a superhuman person is present. He is in the presence of Deity. The commander of the army of the LORD is God Himself. Yahweh has come to lead and fight for His people. All distinctions between the messenger of the covenant and the LORD Himself evaporate in the context.

    Romans 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    • Hi Rev. Williams,

      I agree. Evil will destroy the righteous, unless they have the protection of God. The lord will stand in battle with the righteous to defeat the wicked.

    • Rev. Patrick,

      The Arm of The Lord is not shortened that He cannot save.
      And if people would believe as you have just quoted they would be saved and free indeed!
      Praise Be To The Lord of Host who does protect and help those who obey Him!
      Thank You.

  11. Yes, Rev. Patrick. The Lord was with Joshuah, as long as he obeyed Him. Just as David had to sling the rock at Goliath, but God made certain the outcome. We can also ask ourselves why Jesus told His Disciples to buy swords. DavWms

    • Dear David ,

      David was outraged at the philistine Goliath, because this giant had dared to insulted The Living God. And of all the men that ever lived David was the bravest soldier of The Lord, with the Lord and for The Lord.
      And so the Spirit of The Lord was with Him anointed King of Israel.

      • The Lord said to His disciples to buy swords from Him.
        The Lord also counsels to buy gold from Him.
        Further more if you bear The Sword of The Lord, His word in you dwells.

      • But I must say Abigail, from your logic and misunderstanding of scripture! David murderer Goliath in a fit of rage and is therefore a MURDERER!!

  12. Abigail, yes or no? Look, it is not bad to admit when we are wrong. But it is bad to dance around it and not admit it. No one is going to condemn you, for all have misread the Word in one way or another. We are your brethren and are not against you. But I know I would certainly want someone to correct me if I was wrong.

    Again, you avoided answering whether God sent men to kill the Amelekites. Yes or no? DavWms

    • Dear David,

      I am not dancing. And I am not afraid of being condemn. And I do not think you would condemn me if I was wrong.
      But I am not wrong.
      Now Saul was the first anointed King of Israel and as a King, he owed obedience to God.
      Behold to obey is better than sacrifice.
      Now I don’t think you can call an anointed King simply a mere man.
      He was suppose to obey the voice of The Lord.
      He failed.
      He transgressed the commandment of The Lord.
      It is as I have said … The Lord commands.
      Saul had rejected the word of The Lord.
      And The Lord regretted that He had made Saul King of Israel.

      Was Saul a mere man????
      Was it not The Lord who had made him King???
      Now this is my question to you, David
      Was Saul a soldier??

  13. Abigail, yes or no? Did God send men to kill the Amelekites?

    I will answer your question toi me when you have answered mine with a simple yes or no. DavWms

  14. Marianne,
    Thank you all for supporting our Troops.
    I come from a very long line of Family Veterans and I was taught that it was not only my obligation but an Honor to serve in the Military! I personally consider the Men and Women of the American Military the real Heroes! I almost go crazy when someone calls a multimillion dollar sports person a hero!
    People who dive into the icy river to save another person life, is a Hero!
    Those who helped others to safety on 911 are Heroes. Many were helping others down the smoke filled stairwell when the towers collapsed, they are Heroes!
    People want to destroy the USA because we are the greatest country in the world! Also as I posted on another thread, satan knows that he can not defeat a great Christian Nation!
    Our country is being destroyed from within and as I said before, the United States will fall in to the hands of the morally corrupt! We Christians my be killed physically, but we will not be killed spiritually!
    My way of thinking; Fighting Spiritual warfare is the ultimate Hero status!
    btw, when I enlisted in the Army I made $49.00 per/month in Boot camp, after 3 month my pay was raised to $79.00 per month!!
    Did I do it for the money??? Yea Right!!
    Chris

  15. BIG LOL, I enlisted in 1970! 🙂

  16. Hello Chris, it is not much better today and they have to buy their own uniforms, also. I could not believe that. No, it is not for the money you guys serve. It is for love of our Country.
    God Bless you All. You are all my HEROES!!!!

  17. Hi Patty, I have a nephew in the Marine Corps, he has done 3 tours in the middle east. I am very proud of all family members who served!
    When I heard that they had to pay for their uniforms I was shocked beyond belief!
    I have not researched the basis of this buy your own clothes rule or when it all started but it is just plain wrong!!!!
    But I guess it’s OK to spend 2.6 million of the study of Prostitutes in China!!!
    Insane!!
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/14/government-funds-million-program-make-chinese-prostitutes-drink/

  18. Abigail, I am sorry, but you never answered the question I asked, but veered your answers off in many directions instead. I am not a “Job’s friend,” persecuting you. I have not tried to convict you, but leave that to the Holy Spirit. I have instead tried to be like Job’s 4th friend, Elihu, who spoke truth to Job. This pricked Job’s heart, and the Holy Spirit was then able to convict him. Only then was God ready to come on the scene and set Job straight. Your evasive answers show you CHOOSE to remain blind.

    I pray this will not continue to be your stance. DavWms

    • Dear David ,

      How has my answer been evasive?
      I clearly stated that Saul was anointed by God.
      Was Saul a King? Yes. Was Saul instructed by God?
      Yes.
      Is God a man? No!
      How much clearer should I be?

      And now maybe God can come on the scene and set Job’s ‘friends’ strait.

      Thou shall not kill. It is The commandment Of The Lord.
      We who love The Lord obey Him.
      God is not a man, The Holy Spirit is not a man, Christ is not a man.
      God is Spirit and tell me if you know what Spirit looks like.
      God is a consuming Fire and tell me if you know what that means.

      My answer to you is true.

  19. 34 rounds, and the boxing match is not over yet. 🙂

  20. LOL, Marianne. Yes, sometimes it is hard to admit a wrong Bible conception. I really hurt for those who cannot do so.

    BTW, thank you for honoring our military. I honor them all the way back to their original concepts for our country, and their fight for our liberty.

    Thank you, Chris, for serving! DavWms

    • Hi David

      I remember my father, who was a vet, always said

      “God, Country and Family……”

      That was who he was serving….that pretty much sums it up.

  21. Abigail, if you had answered “yes” to my question, you would be agreeing with Scripture. If you had answered, “no,” you would have been disagreeing with Scripture. You answered neither, but instead danced around answering directly. That was your evasion. DavWms

    • David,

      You asked if ‘God sent men’ (plurial) to kill Amelek.
      Amalek had ambushed Israel and had actually blocked Israel’s only escape route.
      The Lord ordered His anointed man, Saul to destroy that group.
      The men under Saul obeyed the King, but the King did not obey The Lord.

      So the direct answer to your question is no.
      The Lord ordered one man under Him, that is Saul.
      Saul spared the life of Agag and the best of all things.
      And to Saul’s own judgement he only destroyed what he deemed worthless.

      God commanded the man He had anointed with His own Spirit.
      One man David only one man.
      A King who would not obey The Lord.
      Reminds me of Lucifer, the angel who exalted himself in his pride above the ordinances of God.

      No one is above The Lord and no one is above The master and no one is above The Law of God.

      And this is the Truth.

  22. David, I believe this spiritaul war is the toughest battle ever!
    But, every time I get wounded I get stronger.
    I think that’s a good thing! :-}
    regards,
    Chris

  23. Marianne;

    I went to a Memorial service yesterday for the very first time. My dad was a Paratropper in the Army in WWII and my mom a Wave in the Navy in WWII. He’s never invited me soI invited myself. I saw a movie last year on MacArthur starring Gregory Peck and I felt moved to attend a servie and it was too late, so I made sure to attend a service this year and I hope to do it in the future and take my daughter. It was a very moving service yesterday. When the gulf war was going on in 1991 I went to four parades: El Toro, San Clemente, Fullerton and Hollywood. I have volunteered with Sar-El in 1992,1993,1994 and 1995 as a Christian witeness with the only Christian group Israel allows to go once a year in the springtime. Here’s video to dedicate to our service men in the United States. Yes, I am very proud to be an American:

    God Bless our Military;
    Kittii

  24. Abigail, do you have a teachable spirit? Are you able to admit a wrong concept of the Bible if it is proven to you? I think you are defending your own doctrine, not a Bible doctrine.

    For example, take the word “kill” in the Commandment, “Thou shalt not kill.” The Hebrew translation of that word is, “Ratsach.” It means “murder a human.” You can look this up for yourself.

    You kept trying to explain “why” people did obey God and kill people, instead of just admitting, “yes, God did send men to kill enemies.” If I did not already know why, I would not have mentioned that verse. I could have mentioned many other verses where God sent His people to kill Israel’s enemies. But it appears you would have tried to explain them away too, to defend your own doctrine.

    I have done all I know to try to help you see the error of your doctrine, but to no avail. I can only hope that it planted seeds for you to search for the truth before erroniously quoting God’s Word. ..DavWms

    • David,

      What is your point?

      From the blue letter bible, here are two verses both spoken by Jesus and both in the same gospel of Mathew which clearly points out that the verb ‘to murder’ and
      ‘to kill’ are exactly the same thing.

      Mat 19:18
      He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
      Mat 5:21
      Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:

      And here I also would like to point out to you that the 9th commandment of The Lord says:

      ‘ Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor.’

      I have not quoted erroneously The Holy Word of God.
      And I have not attacked you personally.
      The Spirit that dwells in me, is given me by God.
      My doctrine is the pure word of The Lord.
      And Him I will and must defend, BECAUSE He is Truth.

  25. Chris, yes, we grow stronger from the wounds we get while fighting spiritual battles. I wrote a short book on this subject, and Marianne has graciously made it available by free download on this site. It’s in the column to the right under, “WALKING WITH GOD Through the Fire.”.. DavWms

  26. David,
    Thank you for your contribution. I will be sure to read it.
    thanks,
    Chris

  27. Abigail, You asked what is my point? You made my point, again. Before you quoted Jesus’ word, “kill’ above, you should have looked up the Greek word from which it was translated. It was, “phoneuo,” which means “to murder.” If you think you have a Bible translation that properly conveys the meaning of words every time, then you have the only perfectly translated Bible in the world.

    We are to study to show ourselves approved. To me, that means I must also know the original meanings of Bible words before I try to quote them to prove a point. You would do well to use an exhaustive Bible concordance and/or a Bible dictionary so you can see the original meanings of Bible words.

    For me, this is the last I want to say on this to you. It has gone on long enuf without a unified conclusion. You can continue, if you want the last word. I thank God, Marianne, and our military for giving you that privelege… DavWms

  28. Dear David,

    I see you do not have a point.
    Strange I thought you did….
    I suppose that dead is dead, whether it occurred by ‘to murder’ or ‘to kill.’

    Thou shall not kill/murder because it is God your Creator that gives life.
    Life therefore belongs to Him.

  29. Abigail,

    Here are some scriptures.

    Love your enemies.

    Turn the other cheek.

    Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fufilling of the law.

    For though we walk in the flesh we do not war after the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds.

    The first of all commandments is Hear O Iseal: the Lord our God is one Lord. And thou shalt love thy Lord God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy mind and with all thy strength” this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than those.

    He who lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

    Love,

    John

    • Thank you John for Scriptures.
      Love your enemy certainly does not entitle anyone to go kill him.
      And that is my point.
      Yes there must be wars and many tears, and The Lord says that him who endures till the end the same shall be saved.
      The true Christian is not to raise the sword and cut anyone’s ear off.
      Much less engage in wars.
      And so although I understand the grief and the anger suffered as results of war,
      still we must obey The Lord and stand blameless before Him.

  30. Amen.

  31. Marianne;

    A WWII buddy of my dad’s, a retired English Professor of the University of Florida, just sent me this. I shared your web site with him yesterday I recieved this video last year too, and really liked it. It’s by 4 highschool choirs. I want to share it with your bloggers and dedicate it to our service men. I know Memorial Day is over, but it looks like we’re still on the subject.

    Who wrote this sone? Julia Ward Howe. Read about her:
    http://womenshistory.about.com/library/weekly/aa013100c.htm

    Kittii

  32. Well, though I am glad that Hitler is no more, I find this glorification of armed forces unwarranted.
    There are many reasons why someone joins the armed forces but the virtues have been achieved a long time ago. In these days the American soldier is misused to correct or curb problems the own country has created or caused by gross neglect.
    The American soldier is paying with life and health for the business of the military complex and for the dishonest conduct of its political leaders.
    I find it outrageous to compare Israel and Joshua with the USA.
    Who told you to start a war under false pretense? Did God lie to Joshua to get him to conquer Canaan? I see no justification whatsoever in this whole war against terror and as for being free that was a long time ago. The average American has not realized how little of the once great freedom is still left.
    David, even if it says “Thou shalt not murder” why would you want to participate in killing except for pure self-defense?
    James 5:6 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
    According to you he should have spent the last round of ammunition before getting killed.
    That is the mindset of Islam and not Christianity.
    Don’t get caught in the propaganda of the politics.
    They are misusing the men and women in the forces for their filthy lucre.
    German Christians in WWII rather chose to get shot down in their planes than to kill.
    I am sorry for all who got killed for wrong reasons but this is just not right.

    • GYOD

      Sorry you feel that way. Contrary to popular slander and propaganda, we have done good in Iraq and elsewhere. WE have rebuilt cities, orphanages, schools, feed the poor, and taken nothing in return. We have defended the defenseless.

      The problem is that we had to do it alone, that cowardly nations backed out when threatened by terrorists, and countries like France, Germany, and Russia were more interested in oil contracts than seeing innocent massacred Iraqis helped against a brutal dictator.

      Without enough help, the Americans had to contend with insurgents who were able to invade the country and start a civil war.

      So, before you condemn America, and fall for the slander, look at your own country, and see the evil there.

      • Marianne, I do agree that the armed forces have protected the USA very well so far. However, I doubt that you have an accurate appraisal of the situation abroad. There are certainly soldiers with a human heart who want to do the best in a difficult situation. But the damage the US forces have caused in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and untold more countries, is huge. There was no reason in the first place to invade Afghanistan or Iraq. There is no merit when you repair what you have destroyed. It is unknown how many Iraqis have died a miserable death due to the politics of the USA. Defend the defenseless? I doubt those killed nearly every day by reckless military operations agree on that. Saddam Hussein could never cause nearly as many deaths as the US lead coalition has. Another ruthless organization is the CIA, also known as criminals in action. How often have they manipulated the affairs of another country to alter situations to their liking. Again, if the whole truth of past and future plans of the ruling elite were known, you would have an immediate civil war at your hand.
        Surely, Germany has its own evils but to point to here does not make things of the USA better.
        I have friends over there and I like to come for vacation. The USA have a beautiful and diverse country and I like that a lot. That is the reason, I hate all the more the deceit and treachery politics is playing on you.

        • GYOD

          You are blaming all the deaths on American activity. You act like the terrorists just stand there with nothing in their hands and get gunned down by Americans. The terrorists never do anything wrong. They are so innocent?

          Everything went well until the Shiites came in from Iran. They then caused a civil war with the Sunnis…killing each other.

          The USA has been trying to break this up.

          Americans are fighting to save lives, not take them. over 5000 American soldiers have given their lives to protect Iraqis.

          In case you are not aware, the terrorists are doing most of the killing. They are the ones intentionally attacking civilians.

          It is Muslim killing muslim there.

          They are also doing most of the destruction.
          They are the ones blowing up buildings and setting oil fields on fire, not the USA. The USA rebuilt the oil fields.

          Hussein killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, and other sects before he was stopped. He started the conflicts that caused the death of his people. He had a 23 reign of slaughter:

          The largest number of deaths during his reign is attributable to the Iran-Iraq war (1980-1988). Iraq claims to have lost 500,000 people during that war.

          he 1990 occupation of Kuwait and the ensuing Gulf War caused 100,000 deaths, by Iraq’s reckoning..

          the number of those who have ‘disappeared’ into the hands of the secret police, never to be heard from again, could be 200,000.

          800,000 Iraqis lost their lives during the Saddam Hussein years, and Americans were not there yet.

          There is Muslim violence in other countries, and the American presence is not there. The Muslims kill each other, bomb and behead each other. They need no help from Americans, and do this whether America is around or not. That is their nature.

          The same is true in Iraq.

          If America left tomorrow, the killing and the deaths would continue,because the real killers have not gone, and are still there.

          Our American military is one of the most decent in the world. The Americans even go in after a war or conflict, and help the defeated nation. WE give out more financial aid, and medical help, than anyone. That is more than other countries can say about themselves. The Israelis do the same thing.

          • Dear Marianne, I haven’t blamed all deaths on the USA. I am aghast at what
            Muslim extremists do. They are like brainless animals. It will be a sore
            disappointment that when the sound of the explosion is still ringing in the
            ears of the suicide bomber, he will be dragged to hell instead of paradise. I did not mention them
            with a word. But if you want to judge the actions of a country with a “Cristian”
            president that prays for God’s blessing as a whole you got to have a higher
            standard. You can not point to heathens and excuse your own actions with “But
            they are even worse!”
            I admire the unselfish help of the American individual who sent care packages to Germany after WWII.
            Those people are the true treasure of the USA.
            Listen to this speech of Eisenhower.

            He foresaw the dangers that are now more than evident.The soldiers are only the pawns in a godless and selfish scheme to grab the power and wealth of God’s creation by the elite.
            Marianne, I am sorry but what you see about the military is not the truth.

            • hi GYOD,

              Try to keep this in focus. The military we have do an honorable job. Many times they are opposed to what the President says. This was true during the Clinton administration, and is true now under Obama.

              The soldiers who have gone to Iraq have done everything they could to help protect the people there. They were not there massacring people, as the media and propaganda says.

              These rumors were started by the terrorists themselves, and the godless portion of our government.

              But not all of our government is godless.

              It is a battle now between good and evil in this country.

              The Homeland Security has labeled people who are patriotic, Christians, or a soldier returning from war as potential terrorists.

              How could the military agree with this? They are being falsely accused by godless people who have never risked their lives to serve their country. The military is right in their assessment of the war on terrorism. The President does not always follow good advice.

              I totally support going to Iraq.

              We are fighting terrorists, and they are all connected to each other. What was wrong with Iraq is that many nations backed out and put all the burden on the USA.

              Sadaam Hussein was a butcher who was murdering his own people, and he DID have weapons of mass destruction. But germany, france and russia pushed for a 6 month delay in the war, giving sadaam plenty of time to move them to Syria. So when we could not find them, we were condemned. The UN, other countries and the USA all had proof for the 10 years before the war that Sadaam had the WMDs. But now the proof was hidden, and the slander started.

              But discussing what evil exists in government now is really pointless. This was all prophesied in the bible. The world will grow cold and evil in the last days. It is Satan’s final hour.

              All we can do now is keep our eyes on Jesus, and hope for his soon return.

              We need to stay in the Word of God and stay close to God’s heart, and not let this preoccupation with the evil in the world consume us.

              In fact, the worse the world gets, the more detached we should be. We cannot be part of this world anymore.

    • Hi,

      I agree with you … but just must point out that although Hitler is gone there are CERTAINLY enough others like him that have since arose to fill his seat.
      Starting here in America and through out the world.
      Whether these men are elected by ‘demon cratic’ procedures or not, the world most surely has its Hitlers’.
      If the results of savageries are called freedoms, little wonder that so many do not even understand the difference between their left hand and their right.
      To put it more bluntly many call good, evil and evil, good.
      And in this manner men pursue under the evil scepter, atrocities, thinking that they are doing God a favor.
      If only all the masks were removed and all the lies were told and the murders were known … if only men would understand his purpose here on earth, in his earthly life … if only men would remember in their hearts, their creator … and bow their knees to His will.
      But they will one day do just that for it is written that every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Yeshua is THE LORD!!
      But at that time He will also tell them ‘DEPART FROM ME you that do iniquity!
      The Lord will judge this matter!
      And when their knees melt under their weight in fear and terror of Him who sits upon The Throne, then they will know the error of calling Good, evil and evil, good.

    • GYOD,
      May I ask, where do you live. What country?
      Chris

  33. Marianne,
    I could not have said it better. We are the country where everyone wants to live because our military has kept us safe, up till now. I will always honor our heroes who have served us all.

  34. Marianne;

    I was going to wait till veterens Day to post this, but I lost another great video that I didn’t post, so I don’t want to wait.

    This one is called:

    “THE GRATITUDE PROJECT”

    Thanks all of you Veterens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90252751

    Kittii

  35. Threre’s a lot of voice out there. Here’s one for and one against the invasion of Iraq. If anyone is interested in my background. It’s military. My Dad was a paratrooper in WWII and my mom a Wave in WW II. I volunteered with
    http://www.sar-el.org/

    4 times with the only Christian Group Israel allows to go. Ruth Rennie who was German, her grandmother was Jewish and she fled Nazi Germany to live in China. She let the group for 20 years as a Christian witness. Susie Douma is her successor. She is survived by George Rennis who served in WW II and she met and married in Berlin, Germany. She is missed. I can’t wait to see her someday. I really cried and was shocked when she died. It was unexpected. She had survived a car crash that flipped over 3 times the previous year after she blacked out. We all have an appointed time to die and then comes the judgement. Hebrews 9:27 Will you be ready?

    Before posting the for and against You Tube: I want to honor Frank Eiklor who took the first Christian group to Israel in 1991. I didn’t go that year. I went the next year. He’s a former Marine and he’s been a Missionary in South America. Here’s his web site:
    http://www.shalomworldwide.org/

  36. The commandment of The Lord is this …
    ‘Honor thy father and thy mother!’
    This is the first commandment with promise …
    so you may have looooog life!

  37. FOLK the nwo/globalist plan is to totally destroy all US military&all veterans from the youngest recruits now in active service to the remaining Korean War&WW2 veterans still alive&all comissioned&non-comissioned officers! The first to be killed are like those from “Oath-Keepers”&others who are patriotic/freedom loving/pro constitution&bill of rights/God fearing, who will not “shoot to kill” American citizens, who will not put citizens in FEMA camps, will refuse to confiscate guns/food/gold&silver/Bibles from citizens! Foreign UN&NATO troops, along with police/military&feds that are social/psychopathic/criminal/Godless/atheist or occultic/satanic/communist/socialist/humanist! THEY ARE NOT COMING TO CONFISCATE GUNS,BUT TO KILL THE GUN OWNERS, USING 10-12 MEN FOR EACH GUN OWNER&OTHERS OF THE GUN OWNERS FAMILY THAT ARE IN THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG TIME!!! They will burn or destroy the house of the gun owner if necessary&plunder his wealth in his house&property! These troops have body armor, guns with top night-vision that can put a bullit between the eyes on the darkest/moonless/cloudy/rainy night at 1500 yards! They will also have tanks/armored cars/flame throwers/white phosphorous grenades! There will be 1 million of these troops, plus Americans that will work with them! It will take 6 -9 months to go through the whole country! They have computer&GPS guidance! There is also another weapon that combines a laser beam/particle beam/with lightning like electricity&when it hits a human, the body explodes like a shot-gun blast to a watermelon&a car hit varies from the electrical being fried shutting the car off but also able to blast holes in the body of the car&also the motor! I fear that all our military bases will be attacked by foreign&American cruise missles&unmanned drones with possible chemical/biological or neutron bomb/also nuclear bombs! They will have as many servicemen&vets there when this happens! Also our military schools like Air-Force Acadamy, West Point&Annapolis will be attacked&possibly destroyed! Also our veteran hospitals fill them up with as many vets as possible&then have foreign solders/cruise missles&drones destroy the hospital along with its government workers! I believe that they plan to sink as many Navy ships with as many on as possible,also downing as many Air-Force planes as possible The plan after our military&vets are decimated is to have the “bad elements” of the military/police&feds killed off by the UN&NATO troops! This is part of the “BLUE LIST” after taking care of the red list folk! Then America will have most of its gun-owners/military/vets/police&feds decimated, ohhhBTW no one is counting the millions of armed liscenced security guards that are in the crosshairs! With only foreign troops who will fill this new vacuum of authority&then these foreign troops will not be Mr. Nice-Guy or Mr.Clean to the common folk! Then they will turn their attention to terrorizing the common folk rounding them up for the FEMA camps &nothing outside the power of God will stop them Much of this information came from Alex Jones/Infowars/Prison Planet&Steve Quayle! Both men are Christian with a “prophetic voice” waking the folk up(those who will wake-up)!!!!

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