House Vision of the Night (1971)

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Vision from 1971 predicts the last Presidential terms in America.

1971, updated 6/1/97
C. Alan Martin

All commentary is the original, except where I (Marianne) make a comment, which will be indicated by a ***

The editor’s note is by Steve Quayle.

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/04_Prophetic/040610.12.houses.html

(Editor’s note: I think I first saw this particular prophetic word in 1994, during the Clinton Administration. C. Alan Martin had at one time hosted a "prophetic school" in the early days of the public internet. Several years ago, he moved and then shortly after that the web site vanished. This is the most current copy of this dream/vision that I have been able to locate.

Since the time that this was written, we have seen the Monica Lewinsky scandal erupt over the Clinton White House, and in the sixth year of the presidency the "Star Report" was published.

George Bush then was elected president, and we have seen the weeping for the World Trade Centers. I am sure that his commentary on his dream would be quite different now, but so far, this vision itself has remained uncannily accurate. Mr. Martin, if you read this, feel free to update us!)

The Vision

In 1971, I received a vision of the night in which I was shown a row of houses.

It was not until 23 years later that the Spirit gave me a dream which held the key to the meaning of these houses.

*** this would have been about 1994

They represent presidential administrations, starting with Truman , and extending into the future for two more presidents (beyond Clinton).

Linear Recounting of the Vision of the Night:

"We were fleeing the persecution and calamity of the day.

*** persecution predicted

A brother was fleeing with me. He fell and I paused to help him up.

We prayed "Lord Have Mercy".

My friend vanished, and I looked around to see that I was at the top of a hill overlooking 12 houses.

As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10) and proceeding through to the last house (#12).

*** these are administrations Clinton (10) through Obama (12)

I looked into the sky over #12, and saw an arc of what appeared to be 6 stars in the sky.

One of the stars fell to the earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb.

*** What do these 6 stars represent? Maybe 6 more terms, but one is lost, leaving 5 more Presidential terms? 

Or, maybe the star is a leader who “falls” from power.

A voice came to me and said "look to the east!". I began to turn to the east, fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the clouds.

The dark clouds opened up in two places and I saw the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood.

*** this is the 6th seal of Revelation.

As I looked to the east, instead of seeing the Lord in the sky, I saw an army.

This army was made up of ancient armaments such as battering rams, catapults and siege ramps.

I ran down and joined the army at house #5.

Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a "temple fortress".

The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate.

A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress.

He was dressed in a suit.

A voice said to me "he says he is god, but he is of devil".

Then the vision ended.

I waited for 23 years to receive a clue as to the meaning of these houses.

In another dream in 1995, I was in the back yard of house #3.

I looked down at my feet and saw a LIFE magazine, with a picture of JFK on the cover, and the words "In Memory of Dead Presidents". House number three is the house that represents the term of John Kennedy.

The Houses

As Stated above, each house represents a presidential administration.

House 1 Truman:
Nothing significant revealed about this house.

House 2 Eisenhower:
In a related dream, a model rocket was launched into the air and was drifting down into yard of this house. The rocket then turned into a glider and glided into the yard. My aunt used to refer to me as her "rocket boy" because of my early interest with model rocketry. It was in the Eisenhower Administration that I was born. (1954).

It was during this dream that I ran through the back yard of house #3 (to retrieve the falling rocket) and was shown the Life Magazine with Kennedy on the cover. It was then that I knew that these houses represented presidential administrations.


House 3 Kennedy:

The yard in which I was shown the key to the meaning of the houses. The Life Magazine with JFKs face on it with a caption stating "In Memory of Dead Presidents" was in this yard.

It has been suggested that all the presidents on this "street" must pass away before the events discussed in the remaining revelation can occur. This would mean all presidents up to Carter and maybe Reagan (his house is on a corner lot).

House 4 Johnson:

This house was occupied by a family of Jews named Levine. It was during the administration of LBJ that Jerusalem was returned to Israel during the 1967 Arab Israel war. Levine is a long form of Levite. This is a very significant event in the history of the world.


House 5 Nixon:

It was into the yard of this house that I ran down and joined the army of God which was marching forward through time(the backyards of these houses). It was also in the Nixon administration that I was saved, filled with the Spirit, and had the vision I am now describing. Everything up to this point had already happened in time.

However, everything recorded in the remaining houses had not yet happened. It is significant to remember this president, since it will be (according to the falling star and darkened house #10) the 6th administration after Nixon that will endure the beginning of judgment on America.

House 6 Ford:
Nothing significant

House 7 Carter:
Nothing significant

House 8 Reagan:
A Major shift occurs in the time of this president. The house sits on a corner lot, and the row of houses changes direction TO THE RIGHT. It can be noted that the nations’ politics took a sharp turn to the right during the Reagan administration. Right or wrong, This shift undoubtedly was in the plan of God for the series of events leading up to the last presidents and the fate of the nation.

House 9 Bush :
Nothing significant in this administration.

*** the elder Bush

House 10 Clinton:
It is this administration that is the main focus of the vision of the night.

Over the house was a very dark cloud, so dark that it seemed like night.

The cloud was very low so as to almost touch the rooftop.

There was something very significant about the "back door" of this house that may have some meaning.

The lights were on in the house and they stood out brightly in the darkness created by the cloud.

As I looked at this cloud hanging low over the 10th house, I also saw an arch of 6 stars in the sky to the west.

The stars were of different colors, and the last (sixth) of them fell to earth like a fig that was shaken loose from a limb.

I believe the ‘fall’ or bad times represent the accelerated moral decline of the U.S. over the Clinton years.


House 11 President: ?

In the yard of this house (# 11) is a large weeping willow tree. This tree represents mourning and sorrow. But under the draping limbs of this tree are children playing.

My interpretation……………. (If my understanding of house 10 and the six stars is correct, the nation has 6 years left after Clinton leaves office)

*** This is Bush, the son

***I do not think it means 6 years, since GW Bush was in for 8 years. I think this means that each Presidential term is 4 years, and there was potentially 6 terms left (24 years), but the last term would be “lost,” leaving 5 terms (20 years) from Clinton to the last term for House 12 is ended. This would be years 1993 – 2013.

House 12 President: ?

*** This is Obama.

This is the last house that I saw in this vision of the night.

After this house was a dirt path that lead toward a collection of boulders arraigned in a semi circle which reminded me of a place where a trial was held and judgment rendered.

In another dream which took place during the millennial age, I was standing among these rock looking at the ruins of a world rocked by the tribulation.

In the ruins of these boulders I found a witch doll.

I knew immediately that one of the reasons that the USA was judged was because she had gone after the occult and witchcraft.

Across from the path after house #12 was a new row of houses stretching off into the distance. These I believe are the rulers of the land that Jesus will set up during the millennium.

In the vision of the night (after I saw the star fall to the earth), I heard a voice say "Look to the east".

As I turned I saw the clouds part and I saw the blood moon and the dark sun.

*** This is the 6th seal of Revelation.

Both of these are symbolic of judgment being levied on a nation and the fall of a nation.

I continued turning to the east and saw the ancient army approaching from the east through the yards of all the houses of the presidents.

*** The terrorists come from the “east.”

I saw a man emerge from what I perceived to be a "temple fortress" who was dressed in a diplomatic suit, and carrying a briefcase.

A voice said "He claims to be God, but is of devil".

Then the dream ended.

Pattern after Reality

Perhaps the greatest miracle concerning this vision of the night, and the hardest to conceive, is that the neighborhood described is an actual neighborhood from my childhood in Massena New York!!!

The street was called "Washington Street" (for presidents?).

The houses are just as I describe them, and were that way long before I had the dream.

There really was a family of Jews named "Levi" in house #4.

The street did (and still does) take a right turn at house #8.

House #11 really does have a weeping willow tree under it, and children did play there… because I was one of them in my early childhood (early 60s).

*** Sorrow over 911. Desire to protect the innocent.

There really is a path leading up from house #12, and there really is a collection of boulders at the end of that path!

There really is a row of houses stretching off into the distance on the other side of that path.

These facts can be verified with little effort, as the streets and houses exist today as they did 25 years ago.

Note this map of the area:

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Can you see the miracle that God somehow manipulated the houses, events, and even street names so as to coincide with this vision of the night!!!!

This in an undeniable, verifiable miracle where God used (and is using) an existing neighborhood to lay out His plan for America and the manifestation of the Antichrist.

We are in house #10 now.

*** actually we are in house 12, so we are at the end.

Hold onto your hats, because the next dozen or so years are going to be a roller coaster ride!!!


http://members.aol.com/chursey/c_alan_martins_house_vision.htm

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Marianne’s note:

To summarize, the darkness came in with Clinton.

We recall Osama bin Laden attacked the World Trade Centers in 1993, and the USS Cole was also attacked by terrorists.   Clinton did not respond.

Any other darkness may have been spiritual, with the allusion to the “back door.”

The darkness from terrorism came to first peak with Bush, and 911.

The darkness will completely take over by the end of the Obama administration.

Somehow, an extra possible term (star) falls, and it does not occur.

This is when the man in the dark suit, who thinks he is God, shows up.

Are the 6 stars:

a.   6 administrations, with one lost, leaving only 5?

b.   6 world leaders, with one falling from power?

c.   the first 6 seals of Revelation?

The issue that the sun turns dark and the moon turns red (6th seal of

Revelation) by the end of house 12 implies that the world has just

gone through the first 5 seals.

This means either:

1. the first seal (white horse) was opened during Clinton, and the false peace of the Oslo accords, the second seal (red horse) was opened during Bush with the war on terror, and the third (black horse of famine), fourth (pale horse of death), and fifth horse ( martyrdom) would occur during and / or after Obama.

2. All the seals are opened during or after Obama.

There is no time frame given to each of the seals.

War can be continuous.

It does not take long to starve to death, or die of martyrdom.

By 2012, we will know how this vision turns out.

America may still be here, but what kind of people, or government, will be present?

 


212 Responses to “House Vision of the Night (1971)”

  1. The only time that you really have to worry about is : when you see Spain engulfed in war. As for the Ant Christ It is a religion (ISLAM)I wrote this before, but the Beast is a being from outer space (HE COME FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE SEA)perhaps Mars or any other planet. As far as the 13 Years goes .unfortunate I do not believe that we have that many years left The world future will no longer be in the hands of greedy man but will be governed by God .that is of course after the 3 days of darkness ,the braking of the 6th seal. So Listen and listen very carefully .Do not go on assuming that you have a long time but instead start to prepare ,live each day as if it was your last .Make no plans for the future because the future may never arrive .God Bless you
    Rosa

    • Well Marianne, I hate to rain on your parade but someone has to be the voice of reason here.
      First of all, what are the credentials of the author here? He had a dream when he was 17 and now we are to believe he is a prophet of God? Sorry to be so skeptical but Jesus warned us to beware of false prophets so I am always cautious when I hear stories like this.
      To verify the story I used Google Earth to check out the neighborhood and it turns out there are 11 houses on the top row and 9 on the side row for a total of 20 of which the author uses only 12. He lived in the neighborhood so naturally he had a dream about his home turf. If he had been in California or Europe and saw the neighborhood I might be impressed but in this case I am not.
      Also, there is no trail as mentioned in the article, but that may be due to the time since he was last there.
      As for the interpretation, it sounds to me much like what I hear from many others trying to decipher bible prophesies. They come up with a personal theory and then look for little items here and there that seem to fit the bill. I have seen some very elaborate schemes developed from just a few bible passages. And when they have gaps in their theories, they simply ignore them. (As in Ford, Carter and Bush 41).
      As for the first 2 seals being opened, that is complete rubbish. You suggest that maybe they are opened but maybe they are to opened after Obama. So what you are inferring is that perhaps these events are so insignificant that we may have missed them. Really?. These are supposed to be events of biblical proportions. The pale horse kills ¼ of all mankind. So the first two slipped thru unnoticed somehow? You are trying to fulfill prophecy using insignificant events, just to fit the theory. I see this a lot lately.
      And why are you trying to tie events in the US government to bible prophecy? What do our presidents have to do with the Book of Revelation? Do you think that God is revealing His time line through this vision? Or does this dream over-rule the bible?
      I think this is one more exercise in silliness and to give it any attention is making it into something it is not. These dreams are a dime a dozen. There must be tens of thousands all over the internet and YouTube. They only succeed in drawing our attention away from the word of God to pursue the follies of men.
      Forget about it.

      • hi James,

        You may or may not be right about the houses. I looked up the map too. True, there are more houses now, but it is 40 years later, and they could have built up the neighborhood more. I am not sure, and I will admit that.

        It is also a matter of interpretation what is of “biblical proportions.”

        If you look again, I did not say that the pale horse had ridden out.

        I only said that maybe the white horse ( false peace _Oslo) followed by the red horse ( war) could have ridden out. But since wars happen frequently in history, and we have had 2 “world wars” which were ONLY focused in Europe, it may be that the war on terror, which is actually world wide now (lots of countries are dealing with terrorists) that this could be the red horse.

        The black horse and pale horse have not come yet. But have the other two? That is a question, not a conclusion.

        As the main world power, events in US government SHOULD be related to the Book of Revelation. It has its role, judgment, and demise, like any other nation. I do not think anything is insignificant, as it all plays into the final scenario.

        We are instructed to be watchful, in waiting for the Lord to return. To many of us, this means watching everything, governments, churches, news, events, individuals, etc.

        I presented this dream just for discussion. No one has to believe it. But it does provide food for thought.

        • Hi Marianne,
          I was not trying to suggest that the pale horse has ridden yet, I only used it to give some perspective to the term “biblical proportions.” If the fourth horse kills one-fourth of mankind, surely the first horse can not be signified by the Oslo accords. You are grasping at straws trying to prove this silly dream. Sure it might be a fun exercise but we are warned not to follow seers, soothsayers, psychics, etc. We are warned by Jesus Himself about false prophets.
          You seem quite ready to make excuses for errors in his story and are eager to find events that seem to fit the dream no matter how trivial or unlikely they might be. It is this mind-set that will draw millions to believe the antichrist is the true God. You are anxious to get confirmation of bible prophecy and you look to anyone who has an interesting story.
          Well, maybe God is cool with that and maybe he will be cool about all the pagan holidays we now celebrate in the name of Jesus, but I’m not taking any chances. This is why I am so skeptical so forgive me if I sometimes seem a bit harsh.
          As for the U.S. being part of the Book of Revelation, it is not a factor. Sure, there will be a WW3 and the US will be involved most likely, but Revelation is not about that. You can’t use U.S. presidents for fulfilling prophecy any more than rock bands or Hollywood movies all of which reflect the morals of the nation.
          I wonder if blog sites in Great Britain are doing this kind of thing with prime ministers. We here in the U.S. tend to believe that everything revolves around us but in the eyes of God we are just one of many nations and he does bot seek our destruction because we have fallen from grace in His eyes. The whole world will be affected by the seals and bowls of Revelation.
          But you won’t find any clues in the White House.

          • James

            I am not depending on this dream to explain everything. I only look at information for any value it might have.

            I personally have had dreams that have come true. For example, I dreamed that Carter would win after Ford, when I did not even know who Carter was at the time.

            A dream does not have to tell the whole story, or be completely true. It might be partly true, and mixed in with our own human impressions. What is true, however, might just be a tid bit of information that has to fit into a bigger picture. If you notice, his interpretation is not the dream itself.

            He thought the pattern was after a street he knew. But this does not look accurate. It does not change the dream.

            Considering the dream does not mean we accept it as 100% accurate. It just gives us something to think about.

            Obviously, the bigger picture is the world, not just one country.

            No one should rely on just one dream to tell them everything. People should primarily rely on the Word of God.

            In each country, people should be watching for changes that bring us to the final end. We are told to watch and pray.

            Somewhere on this planet, there is an antichrist figure that will take over. So watching governmental changes in power seems wise.

            Not that watching should just be confined to governments. And, as you believe, watching what happens in the “church” is very important as well.

            • Marianne,
              I understand your interest in trying to find tidbits of clues to watch for fulfillment of prophesy. I used to do the same thing not so long ago. But then I realized you was looking to men rather than the word of God, which is all we need.
              The main thing I object to in this article is that the author claims the following:

              “Can you see the miracle that God somehow manipulated the houses, events, and even street names so as to coincide with this vision of the night!!!!

              This in an undeniable, verifiable miracle where God used (and is using) an existing neighborhood to lay out His plan for America and the manifestation of the Antichrist.“

              He is claiming that his dream came straight from God and that we should believe he is a modern day prophet.
              BEWARE of false prophets says the Lord. What if this dream was inspired by Satan? He is trying to make you believe that the U.S. will come to a terrible end in 2 years. That sounds like terrorism to me – or “rumors of war” as Jesus put it.

              We might as well believe the world will end at the end of the Mayan calendar in 2012. If you believe this guy then why not the Mayans. Not too long ago you were looking for Planet X as a “sign in the heavens.” Now that you realize that was a hoax you are still looking for signs. Signs in the Dow Jones charts and on the cloud belts of Jupiter. Sure, the topics are interesting and food for thought, but they are not biblical and we really shouldn’t be looking at them at all.

              But don’t mind me, I’m the great debunker – that’s what I do best. You have fun building these theories up and I have fun tearing them down.
              So I thank you for yet another opportunity to have a little fun.

              God Bless!

              • James,

                Granted, he was over enthusiastic about the source or total validity of his dream. But if we look at everything as “only human, and not from God,” then we might miss something.

                Nibiru is up there somewhere. Whether it hits us is unlikely, and I said that in the post. A close orbit might cause some physical disturbances, like earthquakes.

                Jesus said there would be earthquakes. If people live in earthquake zones, they should be careful to consider anything that might endanger them.

                I also consider that our own enemy, Satan, sometimes like to show us his hand. It is wise to pay attention to what your enemy says. For example, right now Iran wants to blow up Israel and the USA. So does Russia. It would be wise to pay attention to this threat. So, even information from an evil source could help us protect ourselves.

                I have been thinking about the white horse and the red horse. It seems like they have been riding since Jesus left.

                There can be no real peace until Jesus comes back. And mankind seems to go to war at every turn.

                Maybe the tribulation really started when Jesus left, and the church ( the real one) went into persecution.

              • You sound like a devoted Obama worship her

              • James, who then is a true prophet and how do you know Him? The Word on engine speaks of literal Events. How will we know if we don’t watch, examine and study world events? Even in faraway Africa, I am watching Events, because as the lightening goes from one end of heaven to the other, so shall His return be.

      • Wow! I’m impressed by your scepticism. I noticed the Blood Moon as well. Having said that,let me ask you this; have ever looked up word #1116 & 1129 in Strongs Concordance? I never cease to be amazed by God’s incredible ingenuity with which He continues to reveal more & more of Himself to us that seek Him through His Word!:) for example I’ve been studying Hebrew the first three words in the Bible are;”In the beginning..” which in Hebrew is Bar A Sheet. Each letter has a pictographic ( a visual resemblance) that shows its definition. Bet- means tent /house.Resh- head/1st highest person. Together means Son. Aleph-( in paleo Hebrew looked like a bulls head:) means Bull, the Ultimate Strength,Most often;GOD! Shin- (in P.Hebrew appears to have 2 teeth) means To (be)destroyed or consumed or Killed. Yod- looks like elbow means ;”My hand,My effort,or My work.and lastly the Tav. Which looked like a cross means A Mark or Covenant or Cross. Interstingly enough the Hebrew “alapha-bet” begins with Aleph ir God ends with the Tav or A Covenant! So, the interpretation OF “In the beginning” or Bar A Sheet means…..Son of God will be killed by His own on a cross as a Mark and Covenant!” OUR LORD GOD & JESUS CHRIST “MY” PERSONAL LORD and SAVIOUR)..keeps me in complete AWE! PLEASE SHARE WITH THOSE ON THE LINE,so they may step a”CROSS” to everlasting life! Sincerely, Marla

      • James,
        I stopped after reading the words “credentials here.” God has spoken through one of his prophets, and your “voice of reasoning” isn’t a voice I’d even open my ears to hear. You are AFRAID because the “end of the age” has come upon us. Just as in the days of Noe is what I hear as it relates to you. You are, I’m sure one given over to the lusts of the world, because my Bible tells me, “My sheep know My voice and a stranger they will not follow.” That said, “STRANGER DANGER, James. Oh, yes, Jesus told His disciples in Matthew 24 of six events – cataclysmic – that will occur before His Second Coming, so guess what? We’ve already passed Number 4 and we’re at the door of Number 5, the Great Tribulation. Just wanted to share.

    • Hey Rosa,
      I was not expecting the beast to be a martian sea monster but now that I know, I will surely keep an eye peeled for such a thing.
      I’m not sure how you figure that a war in Spain is the trigger for the tribulation but I will also keep watching the news for such an event. Will it be another civil war or with someone else? Got verses?
      Thanks

    • First of all there is no Millennial reign of Christ on this Earth. That is a false 2 Rapture Doctrine called Millenarianism . jesus is not coming to this Earth ,we are meeting Him in the Air. Jesus is not a Local , a Tribal , or a City God who’s house is in Earthly Jerusalem. He is not an heir to David’s throne and is not David’s son either. This false teaching comes from the Jesuits.

  2. Studying this vision:

    Truman is the first President in House 1.

    Why him, and not someone else?

    Truman was the first President to recognize the establishment of the State of Israel over the objections of Secretary of State George Marshall, who feared it would hurt relations with the Arab states.

    Truman wrote:

    Hitler had been murdering Jews right and left. I saw it, and I dream about it even to this day. The Jews needed some place where they could go. It is my attitude that the American government couldn’t stand idly by while the victims [of] Hitler’s madness are not allowed to build new lives

    The last President – House 12 – will turn his back on Israel, and promote its desolation.

    • Re Britain: James,you are right!
      ….Britain does not have a written constitution,
      as you probably may be aware,(we make it up as we go
      along!), so we are less inclined to feel let down, when
      what we know to be an apostate “Christian” founded
      political system, does not reflect the values it claims
      to be founded on,because there is no evidence that Britain,
      throughout it’s history,has ever acted in the interests
      of it’s people,in accord with “true” Christian principles;
      but it has acted in accord with “Churchianity”, and
      the “true” followers of Jesus here, know the difference!
      The word “God” is never mentioned throughout election
      campaigns,as a means of political leverage,simply because
      Britain is by most part a Godless nation, and everyone knows
      it!(except the Queen, apparently!)
      Unfortunately,it does appear that most Americans really
      do believe that their Constitution is founded on Christian
      principles, thereby rendering the U.S.A a special case for
      Divine blessings and providence. Let’s remind ourselves that
      all political powers and systems are,and always have been of
      Satan’s domain, therefore no nation can claim anything more
      than a handful of”true” followers of Jesus at any given time,
      since most who claim to be Christian,adhere to the adopted
      doctrines of apostate Catholicism,which all so-called Christian
      states (and Churches)have been founded on.(Hell fire and torment
      and for ex.)
      Because America considers itself to be a blessed nation,it is
      no surprise then, why American Christians are so pre-occupied
      with political and secular matters,(((which,by their very nature
      have nothing to do with our walk with the Lord, which is to
      be no part of this world }) believing as they do, that God has His
      hand on this nation and therefore will intervene if the collective
      Christian will is strong enough.
      We should all understand that God has His appointed times for all
      prophetic events to be fulfilled; the culmination of all events
      that He knew would take place to bring about the final scenario;
      and no amount of political meddling, debate and endless discussion
      is going to change anything one iota…apart from depleting us all
      of vital mental and emotional energy, which could be put to better
      use;dare it be said… on spiritual matters.
      While it is true that we need to be aware of political decisions
      and manoeuvres that could bring about fulfillment of prophecy, this
      is as far as it need go, since God will give us the spirit of
      discernment if we are truly seeking Him; thereby dispensing with
      the need to delve too deeply into political and secular affairs,
      which, because of what they are, constitute the “deep things of
      Satan”;and will prove to be spiritually detrimental and wearisome,
      if pursued.
      The only blessed “nation” of God, is the “body of Christ”;
      the worldwide “congregation” of believers scattered amongst
      the nations;later to include the believing remnant of Israel.

      God bless all you true followers of Jesus, and let’s never
      forget that He will deliver us, come what may !!

  3. Bear in mind the metaphoric nature of dreams. Perhaps only the relevant houses were shown anyhow.

    The Jew in the New Testament context is the Reborn Christian, specifically those with a circumcised heart. Ethnicity plays no role, it is God’s NEW nation that will be sealed on the forehead and protected even amidst the turmoil.

    However, as in Revelation 12, there is a place being prepared in a wilderness region, as we speak.

  4. http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm

    http://www.coverups.com/jfk/lincoln.htm

    The Lincoln / Kennedy Connection – coverups.COM

    Lincoln and Kennedy

    Here’s a little part of US history which makes you sit up and go hmm…

    Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
    John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

    Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
    John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

    The names Lincoln and Kennedy each contain seven letters.
    Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
    Both wives lost children while living in the White House.

    Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
    Both Presidents were shot in the head.

    Lincoln’s secretary was named Kennedy.
    Kennedy’s secretary was named Lincoln.

    Both were assassinated by Southerners.
    Both were succeeded by Southerners.
    Both successors were named Johnson.

    Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
    Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

    John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
    Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

    Both assassins were known by their three names.
    Both names are comprised of fifteen letters.

    Lincoln was shot at the theater named “Ford’s”.
    Kennedy was shot in a car called “Lincoln – made by Ford Motor Co”.

    Booth ran from the theater and was caught in a warehouse.

    Oswald ran from a warehouse and was caught in a theater.

    Both John Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

  5. James and Rosa;

    You didn’t comment on my videos and web sites.

    http://lrltv.org/lincoln-assassination.html

    http://usa-the-republic.com/items%20of%20interest/abraham%20lincoln.html

    http://www.servelec.net/lincoln.htm

  6. Unfortuantely a lot of these video clips are selling books. I was a little frustrated with Stansberry’s Investment Advsory. The first 5 clips were very eductional and they did offer one booklet free, but then the rest of the information had to be paid for and they didn’t tell you where to put your money. It doesn’t matter to me, I don’t have any to put anywhere, but I get frustrated with a lot of the Christian world, because they are making money off of the Gospel. I won’t have to answer for it someday.

    http://www.stansberryresearch.com/

    God will shake the nations – end times

  7. Marianne;
    You know, you and I have are differences and I get frustrated with you, just as you do with me. YOu want me to summarize my posts and you don’t like me copying and pasting and making them long. I don’t want people to take my word for things and when I post a link they don’t open it up.

    We shouldn’t be covering up for anyone. God’s in control. We know the end of the story. The Truth has to come out.

    Why did Booth shoot Lincoln? According to:

    http://usa-the-republic.com/items%20of%20interest/abraham%20lincoln.html

    John Wilkes Booth, drug supplier to the First Lady, realized he was the patsy in all this mess.

    Abraham Lincoln’s real father was Jewish.
    Thomas Lincoln Beat Abraham Lincoln when he was growing up.
    After he left home he never saw Thomas Lincoln again.
    Abraham Lincoln suffered from depression.
    Abraham Lincoln never went to the funeral of the Thomas Lincoln. Even when he requested Abraham Lincoln to do so.

    Here’s a rebuttal link to Abraham Lincoln’s father not being “Thomas Lincoln”
    http://showcase.netins.net/web/creative/lincoln/father.htm

    Would someone please go to the “Local archives and Historical Records on Families”, publish it and put this rumor to rest.

    • That is what the internet says. The page has no credibility and the author is unknown. Where is the proof for all this? I need to see some official documentation.

      • Hey Marianne,
        Well now you’re starting to sound like me – skeptical. I just wish you would apply this logic to this dream and stuff like Nibiru which you take as true from the internet. Where is the official documentation from scientists about planet-X? It was supposed to be here years ago and since it can’t be seen yet it would be hundreds of years until it could reach earth orbit. That is simple Newtonian science that you can prove for yourself. I guess you simply want to believe it since it fits with some of your prophecy theories and I believe that is the case with this dream nonsense.
        I think you and many others are trying to extrapolate world events from bible verses that have nothing to do with them. It seems to be quite a popular endeavor nowadays which is why the world has tired of the truths discovered by Martin Luther and others and are trying to come up with brand new scenarios that they think they can prove with snippets of current events, miscellaneous bible verses and bad info from the internet.
        It‘s all very clever of course and makes for interesting reading but it sounds like a bunch of Hollywood screen writers trying to come up with the next big blockbuster.
        So I plan to keep you all on the straight and narrow, and continue to be the skeptical voice of reason here.
        Somebody has to do it!

        • hi James

          I need to see some proof of some sort, unless something is just logical.

          For example, I saw a lecture given by a man ( forgot name now) who was a retired intelligence officer. He was describing the physical moves of the government to the mid west and the underground military bases that needed to be completed by the end of this year.

          This is because advisers to the government is expecting some sort of possible physical impact into the oceans which will flood the coastlines.

          He said the government was watching planet X ( Nibiru or something similar). All the retired generals, military were relocating to higher ground (1000 feet). Since he was a credible source, I was willing to consider this possibility. So I did not get this off a gossip website by some wackos. The purpose of the lecture was to inform the public of what he government already knew.

          I wrote about it on this page….
          you tube cancelled the videos but I had summarized his talks anyhow on the page.

          THis is John Moore, the speaker.
          http://www.thelibertyman.com/

          his videos are working….there are a set of 12 of them.

          If you search in you tube, you can find all 12 of them.

          http://www.thelibertyman.com/

          • Well Marianne,
            I checked out this dude’s web site and it is very slick and like the Lincoln guy he seems to be spreading all sorts of doom and gloom in order to hawk his many books and products.
            Anyone can say they are something, especially when they can claim that they were in some sort of clandestine organization that keeps its members a secret. Even I was in electronic espionage when I was in the navy. We listened to Russian submarines from wollenwebber antenna sites all around the world. I had a top-secret crypto security clearance and I was privy to information not known to the general public. So in theory all I need is a slick web site and I could spread all sorts of misinformation. Anyone can. But where is the corroboration? Some large telescope must have picked it up and word would have surely leaked out thru the astronomy world. If someone says he knows something big but everyone else on the planet who also knows is part of a huge worldwide conspiracy of silence, that should raise a few red flags. And there are thousands of similar people out there bilking the public of their hard-earned money.
            You can go back 40 years and find all sorts of reports that said Nibiru will be here “next year” or the one after and so on. They constantly update the day of doom to keep the story fresh and the dollars flowing in.
            And I’m sure you know that there are as many “prophecy experts” thru history who claimed every year till their deaths that Jesus would come “next year.” They are all false prophets. I ask you for documentation and you come up with “I read about this guy on the internet who says he is sure it is out there.” At least some UFO sightings have many witnesses, but absolutely no-one has ever seen Planet X, so I’m sorry if I’m not convinced.
            Must be my background in astronomy…

            • James,

              He was not that commercial when I first heard him. The videos are free, and if you listen to them, you don’t have to buy anything. Government people are used to being paid.

              He was repeating what the government thinks. And we know how they think anyhow. But the american government is preparing for something, because images and reports of DUMBS are all over the country. They are really there. The government is planning on going underground and leaving us behind. For them to plan to hide like this from some disaster they are expecting is predicted in Revelation 6, where the kings of the earth run to caves in the ground to escape the wrath of god.

              Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

              Scientists are mindless too. Just as they assign billions of years to evolutionary claims, they also assign time frames to space issues they believe to occur. Their timing is usually wrong. They even get predicting the weather wrong a lot.

              Planet X is in a lot of ancient drawings too. So scientists are looking for this. Since the bible predicts Wormwood to crash into the seas, something is coming. It will not be a planet like they expect, but much smaller. However, the bible predicts it will cause a lot of damage. Revelation also describes a mountain of fire that falls into the sea.

              Rev 8:8 ¶ And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood;

              this may be a big meteor, not a Planet, which is why no one will see it coming until it is much closer.

              Anyhow, the bible supports something falling and causing trouble. How the government interprets it is their issue.

              But this interpretation is what John Moore is presenting, since he is government.

              • Marianne,
                Please note that Rev: 6:15 states that everyone – every bondman and every free man will hide in caves. It is not specific to government officials.
                But these DUMBS are not being built in response to Planet X or the expectation of bible prophecy coming to pass. With terrorists so close to acquiring nukes, they are preparing for the survival of the government in case of nuclear war, which we can all agree is coming. Here in California there have been similar preparations made in expectation of “the big one.” I for one am glad that there will be a government left intact after a big quake as we will all be looking to them for guidance, information and things like food and water. Haiti’s government should have been so prepared. So let’s not assume that these bases are being built so that our government can simply abandon us in times of trouble.
                As for Nibiru being able to reach us in time for the tribulation, it can not unless you can break the laws of physics. Just as in your business you scoff at sci-fi movies where a bug bite can cause a person to morph into a totally new species, breaking the laws of genetics (and supporting the theory of evolution of the species) I scoff at any theory that says a far away planet can reach us by breaking the laws of Newtonian physics. So there.
                But I do agree that a meteor will strike the earth. Probably one they call “Apophis” which will fly so close to the earth in 2029 that it will get closer than many communications satellites. There is a current 38 in 1 chance of it hitting and that might well change with a little “angelic orbit tweaking.”
                So you are in the right ball park, but as for a mysterious Planet X, forget about it.

                • dear James

                  Now it is my turn, 🙂

                  You really believe the government is going to let you into those DUMBS?

                  Think again.

                  Citizens are banned from there. It is only for the elite.

                  If you doubt this, find any DUMBS location, and see if they let you in there. You will be met by an armed guard at the entrance.

                  When disaster strikes, what ever it is, they are leaving you outside to die.

                  They do not care about you – only themselves. Please get with reality.

                  We are not “free” any more. This is not America anymore. It is the NWO. We are slaves to the “government.” And unless you have a cave in your own back yard, you will die during an attack. I have no cave in my yard.

                  Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman,
                  and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

                  So if you don’t have a local cave to hide in, you will die. The objective of the NWO is to get rid of about 5/6 of the population anyhow, so an attack will suit their purpose.

                  There are only 140 DUMBS….they are not going to fit 310 million people in them.

              • Marianne,
                In response to your skinny post below I decided to respond up here…

                Sounds like you believe our government is planning to kill off most of its taxpayers and live in underground burrows and become mole people. You sound like they are inviting nuclear destruction as if it will greatly improve their lives. Why don’t they just send our own military after us? Then they wouldn’t have to hide.
                So you think every politician in the country is part of a huge conspiracy to destroy their own country? Sounds like you’ve been watching too many YouTube videos and reading too many conspiracy theories.
                Maybe we should bury the entire country and hide down there like rats in a sewer.
                Maybe we should think about overthrowing our corrupt and self-centered government. Replace it with no government at all – every man for himself – survival of the fittest.
                Maybe you could run for office with a the slogan “A DUMB for every neighborhood!”
                And is the military in on this scheme? As a former Navy man and a disabled veteran I take issue with that. They are the only thing between the terrorists and us and if you check out Iraq and Afghanistan, they seem to be on our side. Maybe all that will change when they see the end coming, eh?
                Maybe Obama is the antichrist as some have claimed and the U.S. will destroy itself from the inside. Oh no wait – God is going to do that when Christ returns to punish us for our sins. Or is he going to just destroy Islam for not accepting Christ. Guess he’ll have to take out the Buddhists, Hindus and atheists while he’s at it.
                Any way you look at it we are doomed and there’s nothing we can do about it.
                So I guess we need to do what the pilot of the falling plane told his doomed passengers to do:
                “Put your life jackets on, place your head between your legs, and kiss your ass goodbye.”
                As for me I will simply prepare myself for the second coming and to the best of my ability, enjoy the rest of my life.
                DUMBS? We don’t need no stinking DUMBS!
                Have Fun! Be happy!
                🙂

                • If we don’t need the DUMBS, then why are they building them?

                  http://www.projectcamelot.org/underground_bases.html

                  Each DUMB costs about 2 billion dollars. Millions are unemployed and receive no help from the government. Why not help the American citizen instead?

                  About 24 % of the budget goes to the “black budget.” This is in addition to regular military spending.

                  • I guess you didn’t get the joke referring to the movie “Treasure of the Sierra Madre” – it’s an oldie.
                    What I meant was that we don’t need to build enough DUMBS to house 300 million people. We only need enough to protect our military force in case of an invasion. They are not being built to protect congressmen from a meteor strike or planet Nibiru.
                    They cost less than a new aircraft carrier and are a better alternative in case of invasion. Carriers are an offensive weapon, DUMBS are defensive.
                    I suppose you would be happier if they continued to build old-fashioned above-ground military bases but a simple dirty bomb can take one of these out in a few minutes, let alone a real nuke.
                    I guess because they are hidden from our enemies, some people consider them mysterious and conjure up all sorts of subversive reasons for their existence.
                    I will admit one thing, we have apparently wasted a ton of tax money on weapon systems we have never used. Not since Nagasaki have we actually used a single nuke. Seems to me we could have simply pretended we had them and saved taxpayers a lot of financial burden.
                    So perhaps DUMBS are a dumb idea. Chances are we will never be attacked or invaded so who needs them, right?
                    Just issue a colt .45 and an M16 to every man, woman and child and we will protect yourselves if the time comes. That would certainly be a lot cheaper.
                    I guess it just depends on your point of view.

                • That would make a good song;

                  1-2..1-2-3-4;
                  dumb-dumb-a-dumb-dumb-dumb-
                  dumb.

                  or

                  doom-doom-a-doom-doom-doom-
                  doom.

                  With the chorus;
                  “One man’s dumb may be
                  another mans doom, but
                  come what me we’ll be
                  as oone “

                  • maybe you need to start your own music company. 🙂

                    • I have considered that Marianme,but
                      any orchestration
                      must be no part of
                      this world, since
                      we don’t want to
                      give Satan any
                      oppotunites to dnace
                      to his own “tune”;
                      so am looking for
                      violinists and
                      harpists who play
                      within the pure
                      musical scale God
                      gave us, since
                      dissonance origin-
                      ates with Satan,and
                      we all know how ugly
                      that is…don’t we ?
                      If you know anyone
                      with this pure musical tone, then please let me know. ….o.k,will accept the odd b-m note here and there!

                      I suppose I must be
                      in a good doom today
                      ..sorry, mood……
                      perhaps a good time
                      to write a not so
                      dumb or doomy song!

                      God bless………..

          • Hi Marianne,
            I just wanted to give everyone a quick and simple astronomy lesson in regards to the mysterious Planet Nibiru.
            Everyone who believes this nonsense says that Nibiru is out there, somewhere beyond the orbit of Pluto right now, but on a collision course with earth. They also say that NASA has the proof but everyone there is keeping silent so as not to cause mass panic and the collapse of every government on earth.
            Sounds like the plot of the 1951 sci-fi flick “When Worlds Collide.”
            First of all, every planet since Uranus has been discovered due to perturbations in the orbit of the next closer planet as it was tracked in its orbit around the sun. This is done by taking hundreds of photographs over a period of many years by many different observatories and astronomers. The photos are compared and if the observed orbit doesn’t match the predicted one then it is assumed the planet is being tugged on by another one farther out. Depending on where the outer planet is located it can take many years for the inner planet to get close enough to the outer one to be tugged on. This gets harder to do the farther away from the sun the planets are since the distances between them get greater with increased distance from the sun and the time it takes them to go around the sun and thus encounter the next one out also gets longer.
            For example, since its discovery in 1930, Pluto has only gone one-third the way around the sun and only recently have we discovered two more distant objects beyond Pluto. If Nibiru (which these two objects are not) is out beyond Pluto, it may take another hundred years or more to detect the gravitational tug from it in Pluto’s orbit.
            Note that this process is conducted by hundreds of university telescopes and thousands of astronomy professors and a few professional astronomers perhaps. NASA is not involved in this process so they can not suppress any findings by scientists all over the world. In other words, if Nibiru had been spotted, we would all know about it. And no-one would be able to accomplish this with a backyard telescope. I had a fairly large one yet was unable to see Pluto with it. Imagine a smaller planet twice as far away and less than one tenth as bright – at best.
            Then there is the fact that a true planet will travel in a roughly circular orbit and would therefore never come anywhere near earth’s orbit. Certainly no closer than Pluto. So Nibiru can’t be an actual planet. If it is a comet, it is possible that its orbit brings it close to the earth, but comets are never larger than a few kilometers across and are just big balls of ice. They might do some damage with a direct hit but such an event is virtually impossible. A close pass would do no more damage than the moon at perigee (closest approach to earth).
            But here is the clincher. Suppose Nibiru is actually lurking out there and headed straight for us. How long will it take to reach us? Well, it takes Pluto over 250 years to go all the way around the sun (a Pluto year) At that speed it would take around 75 years to approach the earth. Certainly too late for the second coming.
            Nothing these soothsayers are telling us about Nibiru is true. It doesn’t fit with the laws of physics and basic astronomy 101. It is hype perpetrated on unsuspecting believers who are desperately searching for verified biblical events to prove to the world that God’s prophecy is true. When we use false science to try to prove religion we only look like fools to those who know better. Well, I know better and I refuse to stoop to such tactics. I believe that the seals of Revelation will in themselves prove the existence of God. They will have His unmistakable signature and the world will know they are His works. Otherwise all we have is another act of nature and no way to prove our God is the author. Is that really what we want?
            Not me!

            • James

              What the bible describes sounds more like a meteor than a planet. Somehow it grew into a planet in people’s minds.

              But since the godless governments will be around during the time of wrath, I can see why they would be spending trillions of tax dollars trying to build shelters against what is coming.

  8. I told you Hollywood always is throwing out some conspiracy in their movies. I was looking for something else and look what I ran across.

  9. This video clip is thought provoking. Again, I’m not looking for these things.

  10. Marianne,
    Though I visit your blog for a number of good articles like health, health foods, supplements etc… But as far as the Word of God is concerned, I must say that you are more focused on the prophecies of these ‘SELF-PROCLAIMED’ little prophets rather than the prophecies of the PROPHETS OF G-D (YHVH). You may not have realized this but there are millions around the world seeking the truth and, reading this kind of stuff on your blog will certainly lead them in the wrong direction.

    I agree with all what James Giordano said and much of what Rosa said though I am also not sure that Spain might be engulfed in war – perhaps history will repeat itself in Spain for the horrendous act of Inquisition on the Jewish people in 1232, that spread in other parts of the world too and though spain did suffer for this act in the Cordoba massacre in 1236 & Seville in 1248 I hope I got the years right, but again, there still is anti-Semitism in Spain just like its neighboring countries etc.. So will Spain suffer another such Cordoba-like massacre due to the fast-growing Islam?? That would be an answer to wait and see.

    Another interesting point that Rosa brought up is “the ‘BEAST’ being from outer space”, hhumm!! Very interesting Rosa, No Preacher/Teacher ever teaches on this stuff but I have been doing a study on the sin of Adam & Eve & Satan and the NEPHILLIM (fallen angels) Genesis.6, since the past 4 years and this chapter has been my base from where it took me to the various connections around the world, under the world, and the universe itself and from ancient times. It’s not by chance that I had found these videos more than a year ago. This man is a well-educated Hamas terrorist who converted to Christianity and now has a Ministry in the US. He talks about the antichrist who was taken into outer space by an angelic being and will return.. You will find out who he is in the video. You can watch the rest on http://www.youtube.com Please be patient and listen carefully http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DJPHniE_ao&NR=1 — Further …

    In Chapter-9: V-3 of Revelation it mentions the release of ‘locusts’ like ‘scorpions’ from the earth, who could these be? Jude V.6, And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. The same fallen angels that were bound in the depth of the earth at the time of the flood? The Chapter and Verse that mentions this beast being released in the ‘end times’ is a weird #– it’s Rev. 9:11 His name in Hebrew is Abaddon and in Greek is Apollyon, who is the king over them (the Nephillim). Satan is leader/king but he is not bound, this we know from Job.1: V-7. 2: 6, And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it. And what happened to the REPHAIM (the products of the Nephillim through human women?) these were giants – half human/half demon – where did their spirits go? Could they be the “UFO’s or the so-called-Intelligent Beings” which the Vatican and other scientists are trying to make contact with so they can help to save this planet? – what a farce that is! These weird beings are really cannibals who eat the guts of humans. Here I’m providing one video in order not to make this a long comment. You can get the rest of them on http://www.youtube.com Watch PHIL SCHNEIDER – THE ALIEN AGENDA 7 PARTS

    I believe that fallen angels will once again corrupt mankind (both mentally and physically) to such a degree, prior to the return of Yeshua(Jesus) bringing such disaster upon the earth, as He said it will be as it was in the “days of Noah” (Mat 24:37) and the “days of Lot” (Luke 17:28), what He says is true because – The book of Enoch states that too. These disembodies spirits went nowhere. They stayed on the earth. They are the demon spirits that walk through the earth, looking for bodies to inhabit. They know that one day they will be cast into the pit when their time comes. Demons cried out to Jesus, “Have you come here to torture us before the appointed time?” (Matthew 8:29). Just think of Legion and how physically strong that man must have been, but there were possibly thousands of demons inside of him, as they were sent into the herd of 2,000 pigs by Yeshua(Jesus’) command. Those demons certainly did not want Jesus sending them to Tartarus (the deepest abyss of Hades) where their fathers were (Luke 8:31; 2 Pet 2:4)!
    Demons can drive people to commit horrible acts that defy human comprehension and sensibility, and as long as they are in control humans will stoop to anything.

    • hi Jes

      I write on different topics. If you look around, most is bible based. I also have posts on the nephilim.

      see here:
      https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/?s=nephilim

      Once in awhile I will look at what average people say, if they have a dream or some other experience.

      Then I will rotate back to what the bible says again.

      I am familiar with Walid Shoebat. I think his contribution is very valid and valuable.

      • Thanks Marianne …

        for the Nephillim link, I’m gonna look into it. Most believers in the Bible are wary about these scriptures and laugh like its a joke but I take every Word of the Bible as the True Word of God.

        Be blessed.

      • Has anyone noticed (through media sources) if Obama has had any personality changes?? just curious…

        I read awhile back that Obama was appearing “out of sorts”……not making appropriate comments…wanting to land the air force one in someone’s back yard..lol

        Does anyone else remember reading this?

        Jes’ comment above made me think of this….

        • maybe he did not have the cue cards in front of him, so he would know what to say…and then his real lack of intellect finally showed through.

  11. Jes;Put your video in a separate box so it won’t be missed.

    • hi kitti

      I am glad you posted this video. I have listened to Phil before, and found his information valuable, but generally unknown to most people. I may post a whole page on his message.

    • Hi Kitty,

      I’m not sure what you mean by “Put your video in a separate box…” I’m not an expert on these things, so how do I do it? And what box? haha:) nutty me!

  12. Enjoyed reading this.

    My thoughts are that Obama’s 1st term ends 2012 and if reelected, 2nd term ends 2016.

    The solar/lunar eclipses are in 2014/2015

    And I do believe the seals have already been opened-not all of them but we are way past the first one….the sixth seal is on its way

  13. Jews know their history. Unfortunately they kept making the same mistakes in the Bible. Americans and Christians don’t their history. History repeats itself. I think you need to understand history to understand what’s going on today in our world. I didn’t know the history of Iraq and Iran when Desert Storm was going on, so I was mislead to believe a lot of things. I really thought this was it, Jesus is coming. I am posting these videos to enlighten some of you. I don’t explain things. Marianne hates that. Let it speak to you, not me. I think things are happenig on purpose by God to confuse the Devil. God knows the outcome, but we don’t so I believe it can go either way. We may or may not see another election. More on that later. I have more to share, but Marianne doesn’t like me to post more than a couple things at a time. I’m at the Library, my computer is getting fixed. YOu can only spend one hour on the internet at the Library, so anything else I post or say will have to wait. No one has commented on my posts/videos. When it comes to the Jews a lot of people won’t touch it with a ten foot pole out of fear of being accused of being anti-semetic.

    Jes, what I was trying to explain was; sometimes the videos won’t open up if you post them in the same box as your text and then people pass over them and miss watching them. I opened up your video. Marianne thought I posted it, but I didn’t. I just posted in a separate box with little text to allow it to open up.

    http://themarysurrattproject.com/The_Issues.html

    Ex parte Milligan – the federal appeal of Confederate agitator, Lambdin Milligan before the Supreme Court at the time of Mary Surratt’s hanging. The petitioner who was tried in a military tribunal where he was convicted of attempting to overthrow Union governments in Indiana, Ohio and Michigan, had his death sentenced stayed by President Johnson (May, 1865) until a decision was reached. A year after Surratt’s death, the Court favored Milligan, outlawing the suspension of habeas corpus and military tribunals. Americans must be tried in a civil court by a jury of their peers – even in times of war.

    Manzanar – the most recognized of the many concentration camps, imprisoning over 110,000 Japanese Americans during World War II. No such actions were taken against either German or Italian immigrant populations who had equally strong “alien” ties to Axis Power nations. Many of the Japanese interned were young men who proved themselves loyal citizens of the United States by enlisting in the war effort, fighting and dying in Europe for the same country that held their parents and siblings hostage. The U.S. government did not address this national embarrassment until the late 1980s when Congress legislated reparation payments former prisoners or their immediate relatives.

    Camp X-Ray – the temporary prison facility established in 2002 whose name has become synonymous with water-boarding and the unlawful detention of radical Islamic enemy combatants. In January 2006, the United States Supreme Court ruled (Hamdan v. Rumsfeld) that the Guantanamo Bay Naval Base military commission set up by the Bush Administration to try detainees lacked “the power to proceed, because its structures and procedures violate both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the four Geneva Conventions signed in 1949.” In January 2009, Barack Obama ordered the Caribbean detention facility closed within one year. To date – the commission and facility remain open.

  14. Here’s your next two candidates for President if we make it to the next election. This is going to be a very interesting next 2 years. But God’s in control and prayer changes things. I don’t thing Sarah will get elected, but a Woman for President of the United States is the next kind of Political correctness that needs to happen. These elistist groups like the Bilderbergers are all in compeitition with each other. Bill Clinton is a member of the Bilderberger. They are actually the ones pulling the strings behind the scenes.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/2826120/Dick-Morris-Prepare-for-Sarah-Palin-versus-Hillary-Clinton-in-2012.html

    Dick Morris: Prepare for Sarah Palin versus Hillary Clinton in 2012
    Sarah Palin is an “authentic model of feminism” and her vice-presidential candidacy “could well” lead to an historic all-female White House race in 2012 against Hillary Clinton, according to a former senior adviser to President Bill Clinton.

    http://townhall.com/columnists/MichaelMedved/2011/01/12/palin,_krauthammer,_and_the_right_kind_of_elitism

    Michael Medved
    Palin, Krauthammer, and the Right Kind of Elitism

    It’s healthy, even natural, for Americans to feel populist resentment against elites that base their status through inherited wealth and family connections. But it’s toxic, misguided and profoundly stupid to focus public hostility on leaders who achieved their positions through education, diligence and ability.

    Recent sniping between Sarah Palin and Pulitzer Prize-winning columnist Charles Krauthammer highlights the crucial distinction between rebellious attitudes that attack unfairly arrogated power and privilege and a trendy neo-populism that attacks brains.

    When Krauthammer dared to suggest that the former Alaska governor looked less than “presidential” while shooting caribou with Kate Goselin on her hit TLC reality show, Palin told Bill O’Reilly: “Well, bless his heart, he’s probably used to those in the political beltway who perhaps aren’t out there workin’, but they’re talkin’ and they’re meeting people, and they’re out there doin’ their ‘strategery,’ whereas I’m workin’ and havin’ a great time doin’ it.”

    It’a obvious to me Sarah is being groomed in the media for this.

  15. Are you going to vote for her?

  16. This is all we need another millionarie running for the Presidency.
    Christians in America lost the struggle for leadership and public respect during the 1800’s because they thought they had “won”, that winning the war with King George III and writing a superb constitution settled the matter. They forgot that there is a spiritual war, and that all other strife (military, political, or otherwise) is just a subset of the larger spiritual war going on all the time — until the return of the real King. Christians had been successfully neutralized and secularized.

  17. The Answer to the Federal Researve. Abolish it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://www.theinteramerican.org/activities/the-road-to-emmaus-at-iai.html
    http://www.theinteramerican.org/about-us/fellows/154-dr-edwin-vieira.html1. The reformation of America’s monetary and banking system along strict constitutional lines—through the introduction, State by State, of (i) an alternative currency system consisting of silver and gold to compete with Federal Reserve Notes, and (ii) a State “credit exchange” dealing in “real bills” financed with actual deposits of the alternative currency to compete in the field of productive loans with the fractional-reserve banks in the Federal Reserve System.

  18. Greetings in Christ!

    I am the same C.Alan that had the vision in question and recounted it to the best of by ability. Alas I was a boy and handled it badly then and in the years that followed. Forget all my or anyone elses attempts at interpreting it. I saw what I saw and that was pretty much it. We lived in Pittsburgh at the time, on the 6th floor of an apartment building on Chatham Park Drive on the south side. I was going to Chartiers Valley High School… I was in 11th grade. I worked at South Hills Village as a stock boy. I found Jesus (or should I say He found me) there.

    I will respond and say the YES, there were more houses on Washington street, but they were not in the vision. I would say the first five or so houses on the street were not a part of the vision. I visited the homestead a couple of year ago and the first house on the street is gone. Fire or something. Everything is so different from over 40 years ago! Trees have grown up where there were none. Everything seems so much smaller.

    Forget about trying to count the houses and assign presidents to them. I no longer think that the number of houses is that important. But I might be. Recall that the title of the article on the magazine was “in memory of DEAD presidents.” I have pondered on that one for a long time. Does it mean that all the presidents on Washington street would have to be dead before we turn the corner? At this time (by my count) Carter is the only one left. Again… who knows. I have found that trying to assign meaning by carnal method simply degrades the whole of it. The only time any of it makes sense is when the Lord has given meaning by revelation.

    Why I was given this I do not know. Since I posted it on the infant internet as ealry as 1989, it has gone around the world and millions have read it. I trust the Lord will just that for something. I am always interested when I find another website with the vision and the comments!

    Anyways!

    Blessed be the name of the Lord.

    And BTW, I an NOT a prophet and I have never claimed to be. I am a teacher by reason of age. Receive the vision if you will. If you do not, then God bless and we will see you when the Lord comes!

    In Jesus, who is my only Hope.
    C. Alan

    • dear C. Alan

      It is so nice to meet you here on the site. I think the dream should, as you say, just be appreciated for what it has to offer.

      regarding the falling star, I, since the time I posted this dream, have also been studying a claim about an approaching star. the bible calls it wormwood.

      This could be the star that falls to the earth. There is a planet X, or dwarf star, reported that is accompanied by asteroids and other planets and moons, from what I understand. It is coming in from below the sun and may cause disruption on earth.

      People expect it to eclipse the sun ( so it would turn dark) and have so much iron oxide that it would turn the sky, and the moon, red.

      Notice in revelation a great earthquake occurs at the 6th seal. People expect planet X to cause a global earthquake due to its size, and gravitational pull. When the trumpets sound, wormwood falls to the earth. The obama administration expects this planet x to arrive in the coming months, or at least by the end of 2012. The government already have bunkers out west to hide in, leaving everyone else unprotected to face this anticipated disaster. Notice also that men are said to hide in caves by the end of Rev 6. these are the bunkers governments have built to hide from this apocalyptic event. At least, that is what people expect and believe. Time will tell. The events for the next year may be ok, or very traumatic.

      I also understand there are NATO ships about 100 miles off shore right now, waiting to invade and take over the US, since they plan to move in and establish martial law after the physical disaster strikes. So that would explain your attack from the east.

      • Well, here it is, near the end of 2012 and Nibiru is nowhere to be seen. There are no NATO ships off our coast. No disaster. No invasion. This dream appears to have meant nothing. Sometimes a dream is just a dream.
        Looks like we can put this article to bed finally.
        Fun while it lasted but ultimately just a big waste of time.
        (Told you so…) 🙂

        • I think you are gloating too soon.

          There are still ships off our coastlines.

          Bible prophecy does predict wormwood. mans’ calculations when it shows up may or may not be accurate, since God controls how fast this thing moves.

          Obama is still in office. He may also win a second term. Why don’t you just wait like we are, and see what happens?

          The bible does not give a date, but an approximate time. Look for the signs of the Lords return.

        • Wait till 21 dec

    • REGARDING THE ARC OF 6 STARS IN THE SKY OVER HOUSE # 12 IN THE “HOUSE VISION OF THE NIGHT”
      First, It is imperative for me to say to you all that to the LORD JESUS CHRIST be the praise and glory.
      As Jesus Christ’s Anointed prophet I need to set the record straight as JESUS CHRIST commanded me, by reminding all about the following scriptures: Amos 3: 7; Deuteronomy 29:29; Psalm 25:14; Matthew 13:10-11; 1 Corinthians 14 32-33. In other words as Christians you are taught by the Holy Spirit all scriptures, but The Glorious Heavenly Father gives His hidden secrets to all Christians and non Christians alike only through Jesus Christ’s selected few prophets who have proven themselves before Him to have diligently studied all the precepts of the entire holy Bible.
      And for you to qualify as Jesus Christ prophet you must not have been educated by Society or Man’s Educational Systems when it comes to the deep knowledge of the Bible, just like all the prophets in the Bible that were educated by GOD alone. John 6:44-45; Isaiah 54:13. And lastly and most importantly the LORD JESUS alone must have visited you in secret in both vision and dream, and poured His holy oil on your head and pronounce you His prophet. Numbers 12:5-6.
      Therefore when it comes to the interpretation of His word the Bible, the Lord does not recognize any Church, institution, organization, seminary school, or the best man or woman approved biblical scholar, but He only respects what His holy prophets and prophetesses interpret. So please do not waste your time running to and fro the earth for interpretation but rather seek the true ministry of His hidden prophets that are unrecognized by His Church.
      Now for your understanding of what the Lord Jesus is doing with the branches of His Holy Spirit amongst His Prophets in our time or generation, please read Luke 1: 17 about John the Baptist. Not that John the Baptist was Elijah the prophet, but rather it was the branch of the Holy Spirit that operated with Elijah that was subject unto John the Baptist. Elijah was appointed to purify the people of Israel from physical sins, transgression, and idolatry by the physical manifestation of the power of God by raw visible fire from God, but John the Baptist was appointed to purify the people of Israel via repentance from spiritual sins, transgression, and idolatry in the heart and conscience of the people by the spiritual manifestation of the truth in the word of God, so each one may be ready as a chosen vessel prepared for the Lord Jesus Christ.
      Likewise today while the Church in general has been asleep, the Lord Jesus has appeared to His chosen prophets He will use during the coming “Great Tribulation”, to whom He has also subjected the branches of His Holy Spirit thus fulfilling 1 Corinthians 14: 31-32.
      When JESUS CHRIST appeared and visited me, on the day He anointed me in December 2002, He said ” I have found my Servant David”, and He gave me my personal scripture concerning my anointing in the word of GOD, which are psalm 89:20; and also psalm 92:10.
      The Lord judged me and counted me worthy because He gave me the fullness and understanding of His word more than all men in the end time generation that we are. And if anybody has any doubt I can only encourage you or your Church prayer warriors to ask the LORD JESUS CHRIST about the matter, since every purified believer has a free access to His throne in Heaven.
      The LORD JESUS did not choose me alone, but has chosen many from all over the World. In my personal search through the internet I was about to find a prophet named Jonah whom the LORD JESUS called “NOAH”. In Jonah’s case the Spirit of Noah was subject unto him.
      The LORD JESUS bear me witness that I have introduced myself this way because of great unbelief within the body of Christ, and because of the gross darkness in the hardened hearts of His elect children who are tossed with every wind of doctrine.
      Now regarding the “ARC OF 6 STARS” in the SKY over the PRESIDENTIAL HOUSE # 12 in the House Vision of the Night given to C. ALAN MARTIN, it is needful to inform you that the reason why the STARS were in an ARC formation is because an ARC in prophesy and vision represents the imperfect rise and fall of a Kingdom, a Government, a Nation, or the entire Earth, in contrast with a STRAIGHT PATH, a STRAGHT LINE, or JACOB’S LADDER that goes STRAIGHT UP to HEAVEN. Thus the RAINBOW with FINITE or LIMITED COLOURS of the SKY above the Earth represents judgment due to sin and transgression, but the colourful bow of heaven with INFINITE COLOURS is a PERFECT CIRCLE emanating from round about the LORD’S Throne in HEAVEN.
      If you as one seeking prophetic understanding were able to remember that the USA came out of the ROMAN EMPIRE, and that JESUS CHRIST is not only prophesying about the USA but also the whole ROMAN EMPIRE, then you would be able to have not a whole idea but a 5% idea of the meaning of the 6 STARS, and yet you still would not have known the meaning of the 6 STARS, and also of the 6th STAR that fell.
      But now the LORD JESUS CHRIST has allowed you to know the meaning by the mouth of His annointed prophet.
      Now here is the interpretation of the 6 STARS:
      The 6 STARS are the same 5 KINGS that have fallen, and one is, which is the USA the GREAT WHORE that sitteth upon many waters, reigning over the KINGS of the EARTH. Revelation 17:1-10.
      It is very important for you to know that in Revelation 17:10, the 5 KINGS are the 5 SEATS OF POWER in the entire ROMAN EMPIRE from the time that ROME came to reign over the whole World. And the 5 SEATS of POWER are ROME, CONSTANTINOPLE, ENGLAND, FRANCE, and SPAIN. All the individual human Kings that ruled in the ROMAN EMPIRE up until the USA came to power attest to the above fact.
      In Revelation 17:1-24, just like a film or recorded video, or movie that was fast forwarded, the LORD JESUS CHRIST was showing John just a clip of the ROMAN EMPIRE in the distant future from JOHN the REVELATOR’s era, about this GREAT WHORE we now know today as the USA.
      And the reason why all the biblical scholars in the World could not understand the meaning of “AND ONE IS” in Revelation 17:10 is because they are oblivious of purpose, time frame, and the subject matter of the vision. And because it is a profound secret of the LORD JESUS CHRIST in seeing who in His Church understands the Vision, therefore He inquired in Revelation 17:9 “And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sitteth.”
      Now you can understand that the “SEVEN MOUNTAINS” are not the “SEVEN HILLS OF ROME” as falsely translated by many biblical Scholars who believed the errors of one unrecognized and unconfirmed Scholar. Rather you should know that the SEVEN HEADS which is the same as the SEVEN MOUNTAINS, are SEVEN KINGS or SEVEN SEATS OF POWER.
      And at the time one of the Angels was showing John the Revelator the Vision, he was being told that “5 ARE FALLEN” meaning the five SEATS of POWER have already reigned and past, but that the subject matter in the Vision i.e USA, was the only MOUNTAIN reigning over the Earth.
      Therefore THE USA is the “ONE IS” in Revelation 17:10; and “THE OTHER IS NOT YET COME is RUSSIA, which “MUST CONTINUE A SHORT SPACE”, as The LORD JESUS CHRIST showed His beloved PROPHET DUMITRU DUDUMAN, and SEVERAL PROPHETS AND PROPHETESSES all over the World.
      In Revelation 17: 11, “AND THE BEAST THAT WAS” is the OLD ROMAN EMPIRE prior to ISLAMIC JIHAD that began in 636 AD, which fell and was eventually unseated from being the WORLD POWER by the MUSLIMS.
      It is a big lie by the Western Historians that the BARBARIANS overthrew the ROMAN EMPIRE.
      According to the PROPHET EZRA in 2ND EZRA CHAPER 15, it was the ARABIAN SERPENTS which is the ISLAMIC MILITARY CAMPAIGN that overthrew the ROMAN EMPIRE from World dominance for about 600 years.
      And in 1345 AD during the reign of KING EDWARD THE THIRD of ENGLAND, and the KING of FRANCE, the ROMAN EMPIRE was revived in virtually all of its branches in WESTERN EUROPE.
      And because of the many wars and violence happening at the same time in WESTERN EUROPE including the 100 YEAR WAR between ENGLAND AND FRANCE, the ISLAMIC DOMINANCE was brought to and end in EUROPE. As a result the EUROPEANS were able to recapture AFRICA from the hands of the MUSLIM FIGHTERS.
      In Revelation 13: 3 “ONE OF HIS HEADS AS IT WERE WOUNDED TO DEATH” is one of the SEVEN HEADS which is equally one of the SEVEN MOUNTAINS in Revelation 17:9, and this head was THE SEAT OF POWER in CONSTANTINOPLE, which led to the FALL of the OLD ROMAN EMPIRE. But though CONSTANTINOPLE was still largely under the control of the ISLAMIC PEOPLE in 1345, nevertheless the ISLAMIC JIHAD had no more rule over the now REVIVED ROMAN EMPIRE, thus “HIS” meaning the ROMAN EMPIRE’S DEADLY WOUND was healed, and not CONSTANTINE’S DEADLY WOUND, so you may understand the scripture in Revelation 13: 3.
      Now back to Revelation 17:11 “AND THE BEAST THAT WAS, AND IS NOT, EVEN HE IS THE EIGHT, AND IS OF THE SEVEN, AND GOETH INTO PERDITION”.
      The interpretation from our LORD JESUS CHRIST is this:
      After the short reign of RUSSIA which is the SEVENTH HEAD, the WORLD POWER will be given to the BEAST which is the revived ROMAN EMPIRE that we now refer to as the EUROPEAN UNION, and its SEAT OF POWER will be brought back to ROME(THE EUROPEAN UNION) which will be the 8th HEAD or MOUNTAIN, of which ROME was the FIRST SEAT OF POWER, hence JESUS CHRIST is letting us know that ROME which is the 8th is already part of the “SEVEN HEADS” on which AMERICA is sitting on.
      And “GOETH INTO PERDITION” means the EUROPEAN UNION will be brought to an end by force, and judged by JESUS CHRIST, who will thrust all that are guilty into HELL FIRE.
      Now the reason why C. ALAN MARTIN saw the 6th STAR (USA) fell from the sky is because the USA is the only HEAD or MOUNTAIN of the ROMAN EMPIRE that will be no more in existence to fulfill the Words that JESUS CHRIST gave all HIS prophets of the Bible that THE USA will become a DESOLATE WILDERNESS, and that no man, woman or child will live here anymore from the time of its fall.
      As for the rest of the ROMAN EMPIRE (EUROPEAN UNION), THE PROPHET DANIEL in DANIEL 7: 12, lets us know that the rest of the EUROPEAN UNION, their dominion or reign also will be taken away just like THE USA, but first “THEIR LIVES WERE PROLONGED FOR “A SEASON AND TIME”, which is interpreted as 3 and 1/2 years from the fall of the USA, according to Daniel 7:25. Therefore the EUROPEAN UNION will reign only for 3 and 1/2 years after the USA is destroyed.
      Daniel 7: 8 the USA is the “LITTLE HORN” that plucked up in 1945 with the ATOMIC BOMBS of Revelation 13:11-13, the 3 HORNS BRITAIN, FRANCE, AND SPAIN, of the FOURTH BEAST (THE ROMAN EMPIRE).
      Also the USA is mentioned in Daniel 7:11; Daniel 7: 20; and Daniel 7:24-25;
      If you have any questions regarding the prophecies and visions in the 66 books of the BIBLE, and also all old testament and new testament Apocryphal books please feel free to send me an email or call me on my cell 646-234-4541.
      May The LORD GOD, HIS SON JESUS CHRIST, and The HOLY SPIRIT protect you, and give you all understanding of the scriptures written in the Holy Bible. Amen
      GABRIEL TONWURU

    • http://www.bereanonline.com/v111/page0.htm

  19. Usa. get ready for war against your own government. Be prepared for soon people from the middle of the country will start war against the government.
    Pax vobiscum

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  21. Your interpretations always seem to make Democrats the cause of dark clouds and problems, while your vision skips over the corrupt Supreme Court installation of the George W. Bush administrations, his lies, and the false war that is still going on. How convenient that this “vision” just happens to compare to whatever was going on at the time, and now it suddenly ends with Obama. Surprise, surprise! I’ll check back in a few years to see how it’s all Hillary’s fault. None too impressed.

    • democrats are morally corrupt. 143 of them just voted to keep illegal immigrant child abusers and rapists in the country. they also vote against everything God stands for…..there will be no one after this president now…he is turning the country over to the muslims and islam.

  22. Hi Marianne.
    The end of America is near. I know you know this.
    Thank you for always standing up for God and presenting the truth

  23. …and it looks like Carter is on his deathbed.

  24. I said this 3 years ago and I will say it again:
    /
    Well, here it is, near the end of 2012 (2015!) and Nibiru is nowhere to be seen. There are no NATO ships off our coast. No disaster. No invasion. This dream appears to have meant nothing. Sometimes a dream is just a dream.
    Looks like we can put this article to bed finally.
    Fun while it lasted but ultimately just a big waste of time.
    (Told you so…) 🙂
    /
    I came, I scoffed, I conquered.
    Another theory that went nowhere.

    • you are scoffing on the wrong page….this dream has no date or deadline

      2012 was the end of the first term for obama….but he got “re-elected” so we have to wait until the end of his time in office to see what happens.

    • Looks like you’re still wrong. So what if the dream was early? God wants us to have tome to prepare. Open your eyes and go to God in prayer!!!!

  25. The real thing:
    http://www.bereanonline.com/v111/page0.htm

  26. I had wondered why Truman?
    There may be a couple things.
    It is exactly 70 years from when he took office till 2015
    1945-2015
    Israel came into being during Truman’s administration and the US was the first to recognize in the UN. Now it seems we are turning our back on her.

    • craig

      that makes sense. 70 years has been used as “one generation” in prophecy.

      notice also there are almost 3.5 years between truman’s inauguration (january) and the birth of Israel (may 1948).

      3.5 years, or 42 months, is the length of the tribulation, according to daniel and revelation…( not 7 years , which is daniel’s last week, as some people think)

      many presidents get a 2nd term, so 42 months from january 2013 ( election in 2012) is june 2016. this fall 2015, we should see changes giving a preview of 2013.

      Did you get my other email? do you have any insights on the 6 stars, and the one that fell?

      also, you said

      Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a “temple fortress”.

      The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate.

      A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress.

      He was dressed in a suit.

      A voice said to me “he says he is god, but he is of devil”.

      was this a reference to house # 12, or something that happened at an unknown time?

      I am so glad you stopped by to contribute.

      also, I agree that usa has turned its back on Israel. equipping iran with billions of dollars for terror and promising t defend Iran against an Israel pre-emptive attack is pretty blatant.

  27. Thoughts on the 6 stars.

    each one could represent a seal.

    the one falling may refer to revelation 6

    12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red,

    13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind.

    14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place.

    verse 13 matches with c alan’s description:

    One of the stars fell to the earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb. A voice came to me and said “look to the east!”.

    matt 24 also relates:

    29 “Immediately after the distress of those days

    “‘the sun will be darkened,
    and the moon will not give its light;
    the stars will fall from the sky,
    and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’[b]

    30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[c] will mourn when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory.[d]

    31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

    so the rapture happens at the 6th seal, when the 6th star falls

    this also means that the first 5 stars or seals occurs during the last house, or obama administration

    where the vision states this:

    Instantly I was transported into the future, and found myself before what I can only call a “temple fortress”. The city was gray, in ruins, and desolate. A man had just emerged from the huge double doors of the temple fortress. He was dressed in a suit. A voice said to me “he says he is god, but he is of devil”.

    it matches with Matt 24 also, the destruction of the temple:

    24 Jesus left the temple and was walking away when his disciples came up to him to call his attention to its buildings.

    2 “Do you see all these things?” he asked. “Truly I tell you, not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

    while the last temple was destroyed in 70 AD, this may also mean the tribulation temple, which is destroyed by AC

    in the vision, this occurred AFTER the 6th seal, 6th star falling

  28. My website detailing the vision:
    http://www.bereanonline.com/v111/page0.htm

  29. It’s coming to fruition now, during Obama. I believe he is the antichrist, and has been telling the world so, since he accepted the nomination to run for the Democratic ticket, at the national convention, directly under the WHITE HORSE – mascot of the Denver Broncos, and gave his fancy speech on their recreation of the Pergamum Altar. What people SHOULD do, instead of poo-poo on things they do not understand, is take them to God in prayer! Thank you for this and God bless!

  30. still trying to decipher the 6 stars, where one fell

    maybe they are the 6 seals, starting with clinton’s end of term in 2001,

    seals started to open then, with Bush, and open fully under obama

    the 6th star that fell could indicate the end of the seals, at seal 6, where

    and the stars of heaven fell to the earth, as a fig tree casts its unripe figs, being shaken by a great wind. Rev 6:13

  31. Could the star falling be satan falling to the earth like lightening, coming in the form of the AC? Whoever is president during that 6th term could be the AC then (which is BO).

    • joy

      the 6 stars is what I have struggled with the most. the original author has commented here and did not address it, so we are still speculating.

      the 6 stars are all stars…so they are the same in definition…and then the last one falls.

      I have thought it was 6 years, 6 terms ( 6 x 4years = 20), but these have not fit yet…6 angels,…. maybe it is 6 leaders, but who are they? going back, obama, bush 2, clinton, bush 1, reagan, carter? they are all NWO leaders, then the last one would be obama who is the falling star, who falls with the country

      I am not sure, but it will soon be revealed.

  32. This prophecy is true, but misinterpreted by the visionary. It pertains only to elected presidents, not to any one like Ford who only completed Nixon’s term. Adjusting for the error, We have Trump for the 12th and last president. After he is out of office America is in for total disaster.

  33. Actually the vision did not say Obama would be the last president of the US, only that he was the last president in the line of 12. Truman was the first president in the line, but of course not the first president of the US.
    Obama was the president, and it was in his administration, that the abomination of sodomy was legalized and legitimized. This spelled the end of our nation… just as it would spell the end of any nation.

    Leviticus 18:
    (22)  Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
    (27)  (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)
    (28)  That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you.

  34. I favor a literal interpretation for the six stars falling at the 12th house. They could be military satellites disabled due to war or major hostilities during the Trump Administration. Also, they could be victims of a comet fragment (one star) coming in at an angle which takes out 5 military or communications satellites (the remaining five stars).

    • I think of this: rev 17

      10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is (5 +1 = 6), and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

      11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

  35. Another possibility is that the six stars stand for six states who secede from the union (at least to a significant degree). There is sympathy for secession even now in California and Texas. Due to the predicted Chinese invasion in the western states, (seen by many people) the land of these 6 states may be permanently lost to the USA

    Originally, the 13 stars represented a new constellation which eventually grew to 50. Six of the 50 stars fall because they are no longer part of the constellation. The total land area of the USA may be reduced markedly in the west.

    • that sounds possible…

      but then, the 6 stars fall during house 10, not 12, which would be Bush jr, not clinton

      so what 6 fell during Bush? (or maybe clinton)

  36. Sorry, I misread the prophecy – you are right it happened at the 10th house.

    What fell during Bush Jr was the twin towers and a lot of our freedoms along with it when the Patriot Act was passed and the government began to spy on everyone. However, I can’t quite list the 6 particular freedoms
    we have less of than we did before Bush.

    • it must be 6 of something else, or 6 people

      5 stay, and 1 falls.

      what fell?

    • maybe 6 terms left….

      bush 2

      obama 2

      trump 2

      but second term of trump, things “fall”

      stars are light in the dark. even though i do not consider obama “light” the country was still functioning when trump got in

      trump will be a light but eventually the dark cloud that crept in during bush and clinton (to me muslims, NWO) will finally cause the crash, as too much damage for trump to overcome

  37. If I am correct, the six stars all fell during the eight years of the Bush, Jr. administration; they did not extend into future presidents.

    Alan Martin says “I also saw an arch of 6 stars in the sky to the west. ” This country had its birth of freedom with the original 13 stars in a circle. An arch of 6 stars is almost half of a circle. During the Bush Administration we lost nearly half of our original freedoms because of the Twin Towers attack, and it has only gotten worse as the years have passed.

    “As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10)” These are the clouds of war in Iraq and Afghanistan and the threat of terrorism striking again in the USA. They extend over to house #12 because we are still involved militarily in those countries and the Middle East.

    The weeping willow tree in the 11th house represents the sadness due to the polarization of the political parties under Obama. This resulted in very little getting done in Congress which would have helped save the country.
    During this eight year period people began to realize that the division in the country was too great for it to be saved by constitutional methods, and that the future for our children won’t be that great.

    • kenneth

      I acknowledge that possibility.

      I do not see 11th as “sad” but divisive and angry. and I do not see stars as “freedoms”

      the west seems to represent the west part of the country.

      I still need to think about this.

  38. to mr alan

    the 6 stars seem t be first belonging to the 12th house….then later to the 10th…did I misunderstand something?

    6 star timing

    Linear Recounting of the Vision of the Night:
    “We were fleeing the persecution and calamity of the day.
    A brother was fleeing with me. He fell and I paused to help him up.
    We prayed “Lord Have Mercy”.
    My friend vanished, and I looked around to see that I was at the top of a hill overlooking 12 houses.
    As I looked to the west, I noticed dark and ominous clouds gathering over one house (#10) and proceeding through to the last house (#12).

    I looked into the sky over #12, and saw an arc of what appeared to be 6 stars in the sky.
    One of the stars fell to the earth like a fig that was shaken off a limb.

    A voice came to me and said “look to the east!”. I began to turn to the east, fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the clouds.
    The dark clouds opened up in two places and I saw the sun darkened and the moon turned to blood.

    House 10 Clinton:
    It is this administration that is the main focus of the vision of the night.
    Over the house was a very dark cloud, so dark that it seemed like night.
    The cloud was very low so as to almost touch the rooftop.
    There was something very significant about the “back door” of this house that may have some meaning.
    The lights were on in the house and they stood out brightly in the darkness created by the cloud.

    As I looked at this cloud hanging low over the 10th house, I also saw an arch of 6 stars in the sky to the west.
    The stars were of different colors, and the last (sixth) of them fell to earth like a fig that was shaken loose from a limb.

    I believe the ‘fall’ or bad times represent the accelerated moral decline of the U.S. over the Clinton years.

  39. C. Alan Martin: isn’t it possible that the obvious is being overlooked? That Obama WAS the last president. That DJT, who is showing authoritarian and fascist tendencies is going to be a dictator, and not a president? Look at the past 4 weeks. There has never been a president like him. He is waging war on the truth and on the freedom of the press. He is turning the cabinet over to big business. He is waging war on the judiciary. All he needs is a traumatic event on par with 9/11 to declare martial law. Your vision was correct, the 12th president was the last. DJT will prove to not be a president, but another Hitler.

    • I have been watching this prophecy for decades, and it wasn’t until DJT was elected that it became clear.

    • woody

      if you think obama was a president, you are lost. he is in the house that causes america’s destruction. even now out of office, he is active in sedition and continues in treasonous acts.

  40. Marianne,

    “you are lost” ????? You’re going to judge my eternal soul based on my opinion about a president? Is this an open forum for the open exchange of ideas? Or is this a place where politics determine one’s salvation?

    I have been studying this for many, many years. I know that this is your blog, Marianne. I’ve wanted to discuss with Mr. Martin some of my observations, and noticed that he’s posted recently to you. Please allow me to do so without judgment–afterall, only God determines whether or not I’m lost, and He certainly doesn’t base it on what I think of Obama.

    Do I have your permission to post without being judged? Or are politics a basis here for one’s acceptance before God?

    • woody

      I was not referring to your salvation. I was disagreeing with you.

      the media and other sources now are stirring up lots of controversy so it is not a surprise that people would come here now with very different views. I just hope everyone asks the holy spirit help them though all the media spins, and see the truth god wants us all to see.

      you certainly can express whatever view you have. mr martin has made some comments here on this page. you may want to review all of them so you can communicate with him better.

  41. With the death of the elder Bush, it just occurred in my mind that it’s possible that Bush and Bish Jr should really just count as 1 house since they have the same name…Then DJT is the legitimate 12th and last president.

  42. Just a few words regarding the excellent comments. Some of your observations show me weaknesses in both my recounting of the vision and the interpretation.
    I do believe that Obama was the last president in that list of 12 presidents.. _not_ the last president all time. I do not recall ever saying that the 12th was that last US president… only the last of the 12. He was not the last president of the US any more than Truman was the first president of the US. I should have nipped that interpretation in the bud many years ago. One of my many failures in the sharing of this vision.
    The nature of this vision was much like the visions of Daniel. Daniel did not always know the meaning..and in fact was told visions might be sealed up. Recall that I did not even know what these houses represented until 23 years after I received the vision. My lesson is to not speculate in public what the hidden/sealed aspect of a vision might mean. being the recipient of the vision my speculation tend to become interpretation. There are other elements of the vision that remain a mystery, such as:
    The 6 stars and the falling 6th star.
    The meaning of “look to the east.”
    The meaning of the implements of war.
    The meaning of the man in the suit and briefcase.
    The meaning of the phrase “he says he is god, but he is of devil.”
    The Twelve Houses:
    Truman
    Eisenhower
    Kennedy
    Johnson
    Nixon
    Ford
    Carter
    Reagan
    Bush 1
    Clinton
    Bush 2
    Obama

    Note
    The arc or “stars” were within the atmosphere of the earth. They were not in the heavens i.e. “space.” They were very bright… brighter than any star in the heavens. Much like the brightness of the landing lights on a plane as it approaches an airport. The stars were of the various colors of the rainbow. Again the meaning of this escapes me. The star that fell shook like a apple on a tree branch. It then fell to the ground. More accurately, was “thrown” to the ground. It was as if it were struck by a baseball bat and shot straight down to the ground. As I said, the interpretation has eluded me, and much like the meaning of the houses, the meaning of these stars may not come until revealed. Up to know I think I (we) are just guessing.

    • C. Alan Martin: Thank you for your comments. especially, “Some of your observations show me weaknesses in both my recounting of the vision and the interpretation.” One prophecies and other interprets prophecy.

      I have been following this vision for a few decades, and I feel that many who have written about it let their politics color their interpretation. When we look at the prophecies of the OT, their interpretation become very clear in hindsight. They don’t require interpretive gymnastics to make them comply to one’s preconceived notions, especially ones colored by one’s politics.

      I think that we are entering a critical time in our history. I think that if the 12 houses mean 12 presidents, and the current person holding the Oval is a businessman, it aligns well with the man in the suit in the vision. Occam’s razor, the simplest solution tends to be the correct one.

    • I believe the six stars represent six states which will leave the union, and also six comets striking or coming close to the earth. The falling star is a state that is lost to the USA in WW III (most likely Hawaii or Alaska).

      “Look to the east” refers to the coming conflict or war of the USA with Russia and China.

      The “blood moon and the dark sun” represent the third great peril according to George Washington’s Vision. In other words, great judgment coming upon America.

      The phrase “he says he is god but he is the devil” refers to the false prophet who claims to be Christ. This would be the “child of the east” according to the vision of the late Jeanne Dixon.

      The temple fortress may be in Jerusalem since a temple there would need to be defended like a fortress due to the Muslims surrounding Israel.

    • dear mr martin

      thank you for stopping by again during this ongoing discussion.

      I think the Lord likes to give us mysteries to keep us busy thinking.

      I have had dreams from the Lord, and many I do not fully understand yet.

  43. Dear Mr. Martin

    I think the “look to the East” and the ancient army is a reference to Gog & Magog…
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb54.htm
    and that the last vision of the man in a suit is none other than the Antichrist…
    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb55.htm

    The six stars and 1 of them falling, take a look at Revelation 9.

    So, once “Peace and safety!” is declared, that will get the ball rolling.. The ancient army will wreak havoc and only those who have the whole armor of Christ will be safe…Afterwards, the Antichrist appears on the scene and will succeed in deceiving those who are foolish in the faith (like the 5 foolish virgins)..we must endure to the end..

    Lord bless you,
    Glenn

  44. One other thing… Obama appears to be very significant – below is a quote from http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb55.htm

    The king who shall deliver over the kingdom to God will be descended from the seed of Kûshath the daughter of Pîl, the king of the Ethiopians; for Armelaus (Romulus) the king of the Greeks took Kûshath to wife, and the seed of the Ethiopians was mingled with that of the Greeks. From this seed shall a king arise who shall deliver the kingdom over to God, as the blessed David has said, ‘Cush will deliver the power to God.’

    Part of Obama’s lineage (through his father) is from a people group that is eventually the descendants of Cush.

    US is the foremost democratic (Hellenistic) nation of the world.

    • good thought. I just returned to this page and saw the comment. i did not get an email notification about your comments. you might be onto something.

  45. Just want to bring this to our attention –

    http://www.inthebeginning.com/articles/1965prophecy.htm

  46. A new thought about the arch of six stars – If you look at the flag of Venezuela, it has an arch of 8 stars. The arch of 6 stars in the dream may mean what has happened in Venezuela will repeat to a significant extent in America. Venezuela went from being the richest or one of the richest countries in South America to one of the poorest in a very short space of time due to its socialist dictator Hugo Chavez and the falling price of oil. The different colors may refer to different political viewpoints or voting blocs in America. This doesn’t necessarily detract from other interpretations of the 6 stars since symbols can have many meanings simultaneously.

  47. All our dreams and visions – if they are from the Lord, then by all means these have to support what has been prophesied in the scriptures…. We receive dreams & visions to remind us of the truth of scripture.. Dreams & visions don’t reveal anything new at all in the eyes of our Lord but simply echoes what He has already said.

    The reason it is hard for us to interpret prophecy is because we don’t truly have the answers.. Just like the parables, their truths have to be revealed to us.. Didn’t He say that those who have His words and obey them, these are the ones who love Him and that He and the Father will dwell with them?

  48. Hello, If the 6th star falling represents a presidential term that does not occur, it would be the sixth term after Clinton which brings us to the end of Trump’s current term which is the 5th term since Clinton…Could it be that Trump’s 2nd term never occurs for some horrible reason?

    • dino

      you might be right. I was thinking the 6 administrations included those of clinton, but as you say they might be the 6 following administrations instead.

      then there would be 6 elections and administrations, not 5, so trump would get elected but would not complete his last term. if he did nor get elected, there would only be 5 stars total.

      my impression is that trump will be elected in 2020, but the world willl be changing where we all either leave or go though tribulation. trump could be raptured so it does not have to be a negative event that removes him. my thoughts are year 2023. that would end a 7 year period of grace for america,

      the next 7 years would end in 2030, about the time jesus was crucified, ending 2000 years since then.

      also there were no more houses after obama, as the path off into the woods shows much destruction with little left…..trump cannot cure what is wrong with this country spritually. he is there to give extra time to the saints and allow more people to be saved.

      interesting that he does not have a “house” to represent him. right now he is surrounded by many guilty of treason and sedition, in a house that is already fallen. the other houses were secular. his is spiritual.

  49. Hi again folks. C Alan here.
    Thanks for visiting the topic again… it is nice to come back by and see what is stirring.
    Let me reiterate again that my big mistake as a young person was trying to interpret the vision in terms of current events and assumptions I held in those youthful days. That was zealous but foolish. When I had the vision of the night I had just turned 16, had been a Christian for a very short time, and was not ready for the task of interpreting what it meant or much of anything for that matter. The meaning of the vision was not to be revealed immediately, rather over a period of time. Recall that I was not told that the houses represented Presidents until 23 years later!
    First off the list of Presidents does not represent the first or the last Presidents. The 12th president was not the “last” President of the US any more than Truman was the “first” President of the US. They were just the first and last of the series of Presidents.
    Also, there was a comment suggesting that there were no more houses after the 12th house. I think I commented that in fact there were more houses stretching off into the distance. As with much of the rest of the vision… I do not know what they represent.

    A few things I do know.
    1 The houses represent Presidential Administrations.
    2 The third house represents Kennedy (per the vision with the life mag)
    3 The second house represents Eisenhower (the Pres when I was born)
    4 The fifth house was Nixon (the Pres when I was born again)
    5 There was something very significant about the house representing the Clinton admin. It sort of stood out from the rest. It was almost like that house and the Obama house were involved with each other.
    7 The US was slated for judgement during the Reagan Administration. Something involving the Star wars initiative. Russia was going to nuke the US before the SW was put in place. Only the intercession of the saints prevented that. However, this led to:
    8 The nation entered a “valley of decision” staring during Reagan, and that valley ended with Obama. I suspect that is why Obama was the last house. That was the end of the time of decision.
    9 This “valley of decision” was the beginning of a time of great confusion. We see that confusion occurring in all areas of life. Spiritual, religious, cultural, political, even sexual.
    10 Today we are in a time just before the forestalled judgement of the USA. The decision has been made. There were 6 boulder judgement that were to take place, because of the rejection of God’s mercy, a 7th has been added and will take place before the original 6.
    11 However, God is still merciful, and there will be a powerful revival before the end of the nation.
    12 God is not harsh. This is only happening because first: justice demands it, and second: if allowed to continue, the nation will fall so far into wickedness that it will endanger the survival of the planet and all of mankind.
    So we have to go.

    No idea what the stars meant.

    I suspect that the black sun and blood moon represent the fall of the USSR during Bush1, the thing that God did to prevent the initial planned destruction of the US.

    Gotta go. I will be interested to hear any comments.
    Love in Him
    C.

    • Sorry… I meant to say I just turned 17, not 16.

    • hi craig

      I think we figured out the stars meaning. see discussion between dino and myself:

      House Vision of the Night (1971)

      House Vision of the Night (1971)

      the black sun and the blood moon is the 6th seal of revelation

    • Hello Mr. Martin, I read your prophecy right around the time I got saved in 2015. It has left a tremendous impression on me. I am ecstatic about the fact you are responding to these comments ! Thank you. Would you be able to expand upon points number seven and eight from this most recent comment that you made on October 5? You mentioned that the USA was slated for judgment which was going to take place during the Reagan administration- was this something that was disclosed in the Dmitru dudaman prophecy? Thank You.

  50. I may have said this before, but I believe there has been an error in interpreting the 12 houses. Ford was not an elected president. He merely served as acting president for the remainder of Nixon’s term. All 12 presidents need be elected by the people. The 12th house and 12th administration would thus be Trump.

  51. Thanks all for the suggestions and insights. I am always open to ideas and spiritual guidance. Please feel free to add what you discern.
    Blessings.
    C

  52. Not sure if I mentioned this on this forum. But I actually received an insight from an unbeliever. A skeptic if not an atheist.
    He pointed out that the vision must have been an imagination and not from God because there were not 12 Presidents…
    That caused me to think. Yes… there were more than 12 Presidents. There were 44 by Obama. So I sat down and pulled out a map of the block of houses I saw in the vision. I counted back from Truman, who was the first President in the vision. I continued counting back around the block until I came to the house next to Obama, and it was house was the house representing George Washington. IOWs, there were exactly 44 houses on the block in question. Washington was 1, and Obama was 44.
    Just an observation prompted by the doubting of a skeptic.
    So, yes. I value the comments, suggestions, and insights from everyone.

    • I believe that the houses represent the administrations of elected presidents only. Andrew Johnson completed Lincoln’s term after his assassination, but was not elected afterward. Grover Cleveland was elected twice (1885-89 and 1893-97) so would count as two separate administrations. Since Ford was not elected, we have had 45 presidents, but only 44 administrations since Trump’s election.

      In my opinion, your vision is true, and we can look forward to a lot of chaos and fraud in the next election.

    • That is truly amazing.

  53. Hello brother C Alan Martin….Your dream about the swarm of bees around your hands… What about the book of the Bee which describes the supernatural army to come (Gog & Magog) and then the Antichrist afterwards.

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb54.htm

    http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/bb/bb55.htm

    Lord bless you,
    Glenn

  54. Today we are waiting on one last thing to occur before the onslaught begins. We are likely months away. The corona virus is just a shot across the bow of a nation rebelling against God. If you are not a prepper, I strongly advise you to prepare for your family and your church. Be ready.
    Blessings..
    C. Alan

    • Brother, thanks for your reply… Are your referring to President Carter? The rfid chip that is going to be rolled out, I think most, if not all the world will implement it starting with the US and we may have to be imprisoned for not taking it but I know the LORD will keep us safe if He hasn’t appointed us to martyrdom… Can you please share the preparation you are doing?

      Lord bless you,
      Glenn

    • C Alan

      i think there will be more plagues to come, one after the other, like beads falling off a string. act while there is still time.

  55. I have been reluctant to post here because I hold some views that are contrary to some of the commonly-held views in this forum. But, I, like you, have been following C. Alan’s vision since I first read in in the mid-80s. Since then, it has never been far from my mind. As for my beliefs: I believe that Jesus of Nazarus is the Messiah, and that He is going to return. I, like everyone here, have been studying the times of His return since I was a 16-year-old Jewish Jesus freak, who was severely punished by his family for his beliefs. I’m now 64. I have been studying end-time prophecy, mostly Daniel, Matthew 24 and Revelation for 48 years.

    Then I saw the vision of the Presidents. There is a verse that says, “My Lambs will know my voice.” I felt a truth and clarity about this vision that I’d seen in no other–including your latest verification, C. Alan. Forty-four houses–only discovered a few months before the onset of a global event of Apocolyptic proportions.

    I have always felt that when the event that were prophecies, they would play out, at some point in our lifetimes, in real life. I also felt that the events that unfolded would also appear in the scripture that I read. With the coronavirus, and the impending death toll, the implosion of the economy and the social toll that will take, I have thoughts on where in the timeline I was.

    The vision of the night has given a time framework that has been a roadmap and an hourglass to the time of Jacob’s Troubles.

    Occam’s Razor: the simplest explanation is most likely the true explanation.

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matt 7:15-20.

    Look at the fruit borne from our leaders. Is it good fruit? Good fruit comes from how we follow the commandments to love God and our neighbors as ourselves. That was the theme of the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus’ teachings to us for how we must live our lives–the narrow way He later mentions.

    No we have leaders that are dividing us, that are holding out supplies to the most desperate cities because of the respect their governors didn’t give him.

    Occam’s razor. The simplest solution is the most likely–how can the man in the suit NOT be Trump? He is walking through a fortress–a country he built walls around, amid ruins—well, everything is now in ruins. And he is a businessman, not a president. He doesn’t act in the interest of the country but in his own interest.

    Up to Obama, all 44 Presidents are accounted for. So where in the vision is Trump, 45? It would only make sense that the next person that is in the vision is Trump: a man in a suit.

    I think that the Vision of the Night is a clear message to those of us that will go through the tribulation, of who to watch for. For all of us in this thread are watchers, and have been watchers for years on end. The events that we’ve been watching for are unfolding before us.

    I truly believe that the first four of the 7 seals have been opened. I believe that the tribulation began within the last few months. It’s not just the coronavirus, but it will be the servitude of the homeless masses, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,[b] and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!” For what will be left for those who have no job, no home and mountains of debt? We see the plague and the genocidal wars, with everything falling apart because of the pandemic.

    We are past the point where we can point the finger at Obama, and deny him his rightful 44th house. He is not the one handling this crisis. There is only 45, and all around him right now is devastation and an impeachment. Perhaps he doesn’t get a house because he never took the oath of office as sacred, as all 44 before him had.

    You cannot let political bias blind you to the answer that was in front of you all the time, since November 8, 2016. Whoever won that election was going to be the President without a house.

  56. Hi Marianne,

    I can understand why you wouldn’t want to publish my post. I’m okay with that. I would appreciate, however, if you could forward my post to C. Alan Martin. I would contact him directly if I had a way–but this seems to be the only forum on which he has posted recently. As I mentioned in my post, I’m a Jewish Believer who has been studying end-time prophecy for 48 years, and have been following this particular prophetic dream since the 1980s.

    Please respond to me either way at woody.haiken@me. com.

    Thank you,

    Woody Haiken

    • woody

      I just found your comment in spam. So be assured I did not reject it.

      I just approved it.

      C Alan MArtin is now subscribed to this page so hopefully he will respond.

      If not, I can forward your comments to him.

      I am a Jewish believer also, and it sounds like you and I have been in study for about the same length of time.

      I have been busy with passover / pesach, so I am behind on comments, trying to catch up

  57. This is the post that I submitted April 6. I’m submitting it again because for some reason it didn’t publish.

    I have been reluctant to post here because I hold some views that are contrary to some of the commonly-held views in this forum. But, I, like you, have been following C. Alan’s vision since I first read in in the mid-80s. Since then, it has never been far from my mind. As for my beliefs: I believe that Jesus of Nazarus is the Messiah, and that He is going to return. I, like everyone here, have been studying the times of His return since I was a 16-year-old Jewish Jesus freak, who was severely punished by his family for his beliefs. I’m now 64. I have been studying end-time prophecy, mostly Daniel, Matthew 24 and Revelation for 48 years.

    Then I saw the vision of the Presidents. There is a verse that says, “My Lambs will know my voice.” I felt a truth and clarity about this vision that I’d seen in no other–including your latest verification, C. Alan. Forty-four houses–only discovered a few months before the onset of a global event of Apocolyptic proportions.

    I have always felt that when the event that were prophecies, they would play out, at some point in our lifetimes, in real life. I also felt that the events that unfolded would also appear in the scripture that I read. With the coronavirus, and the impending death toll, the implosion of the economy and the social toll that will take, I have thoughts on where in the timeline I was.

    The vision of the night has given a time framework that has been a roadmap and an hourglass to the time of Jacob’s Troubles.

    Occam’s Razor: the simplest explanation is most likely the true explanation.

    “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them. Matt 7:15-20.

    Look at the fruit borne from our leaders. Is it good fruit? Good fruit comes from how we follow the commandments to love God and our neighbors as ourselves. That was the theme of the Sermon on the Mount. Jesus’ teachings to us for how we must live our lives–the narrow way He later mentions.

    No we have leaders that are dividing us, that are holding out supplies to the most desperate cities because of the respect their governors didn’t give him.

    Occam’s razor. The simplest solution is the most likely–how can the man in the suit NOT be Trump? He is walking through a fortress–a country he built walls around, amid ruins—well, everything is now in ruins. And he is a businessman, not a president. He doesn’t act in the interest of the country but in his own interest.

    Up to Obama, all 44 Presidents are accounted for. So where in the vision is Trump, 45? It would only make sense that the next person that is in the vision is Trump: a man in a suit.

    I think that the Vision of the Night is a clear message to those of us that will go through the tribulation, of who to watch for. For all of us in this thread are watchers, and have been watchers for years on end. The events that we’ve been watching for are unfolding before us.

    I truly believe that the first four of the 7 seals have been opened. I believe that the tribulation began within the last few months. It’s not just the coronavirus, but it will be the servitude of the homeless masses, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,[b] and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!” For what will be left for those who have no job, no home and mountains of debt? We see the plague and the genocidal wars, with everything falling apart because of the pandemic.

    We are past the point where we can point the finger at Obama, and deny him his rightful 44th house. He is not the one handling this crisis. There is only 45, and all around him right now is devastation and an impeachment. Perhaps he doesn’t get a house because he never took the oath of office as sacred, as all 44 before him had.

    You cannot let political bias blind you to the answer that was in front of you all the time, since November 8, 2016. Whoever won that election was going to be the President without a house.

    • woody

      I asked C alan about 45, and he just said he only saw up to 44…future after that is unexplained. Obama plans to return to power. Whether all before 45 held the office as “sacred” is debatable.

      • Woody,It is doubtful that Mr. Clinton viewed the office as sacred. Some believe he used the office for his own personal gain and nothing else. Nonetheless, I find your commentary to be extremely interesting and insightful. Dino

  58. To answer your question, Trump is actually house number 12 in the series. Ford has been counted as a president, but he was only the acting president when Nixon resigned. All true presidents have been explicitly elected by popular vote.

    Similarly, Andrew Johnson was an acting president after Lincoln’s assassination, so he would not be included in the line of presidents before the last twelve (for purposes of this dream).

  59. Thanks to all for the continued comments and ideas. Not to worry about criticisms and doubts. I totally understand.
    As I have stated before… my biggest mistake down through the years was and is making comments about what parts of the vision of the night meant… without the Lord specifically showing me. There are still parts that I do not understand and have no idea what they mean. I know the houses represent presidents, and that there were 12 main houses in the vision. There were houses before, and there were houses after… but the only ones the vision seemed to be concerned with were those 12. But I am pretty sure I never suggested that the 12th president was the last, any more than the first president in the vision was the first president of the US. If I did suggest that the 12th (Obama?) was the last… I was just wrong in my interpretation. Simple as that. Also realize the many people have suggested meanings… which I appreciate… but some are simple no better then my suggestions.
    I am not concerned that I do not understand the full meaning of the vision. A casual study of the scriptures show that those who receive visions rarely know what they mean. The full meaning only comes to light as they are fulfilled.
    Thanks again for the comments… I will try to respond more as time permits. Since we are all home these days… I should not have any trouble finding time.
    Thank Marianne for your efforts in maintaining the site. It is a blessing.

  60. Marianne and C. Alan,

    As I have said before, I have studied prophecy and only this one extant prophecy in all the years of my study. I truly believe that the vision was given to one who could not understand it, just as you said, C. Alan. I have been following this prophecy, and yes, I believe that it is from God, and is a time post on which to pin biblical prophecy. Everyone here must believe it is from God, because of the depth of the discussions.

    Along with my studies of the timelines given in Daniel and Revelation, I aligned a series of events with this vision which pivots on the final scene of the man in the suit. There is nothing more important to know, or to glean from the vision than the identity of the man. From Daniel and Revelation, we learn about his nature. How he thinks that he is God and gets the whole world to worship him. If you believe this vision as being from God, and therefore prophetic, then you also have to believe the much more detailed accounts of this man given to us by John and Daniel, and Jesus also in Matthew 24. But I’m drawn to the accounts in Daniel more than any other.

    The way the Antichrist is described by Daniel and John define his character. He’s boastful, he rewards those who do his bidding, He is the beast who gets all to either live with an embedded chip–we can decipher the mark these days because we now have the technology. But whatever the mark is, it is the only means by which to buy or sell.

    So with the scripture that has guided me, and my interpretation of events and possibly unlocking the full meaning of your vision, C. Martin, I ask permission to share my view, even though to some here it will be offensive. I have no desire to offend, but just want to be allowed to share without drawing hostile responses. If I mention real people who are in the political sphere, I promise I will not make it political. I will only mention real people and real events, as I’ve gleaned from my careful daily research into the news. I don’t want to get into an argument about the validity or voracity of the media, that, too is a political debate. Also, when I mention people in the context of the vision, I’m talking about actual people and not political parties.

    So, Marianne and C. Alan, do I have your permission to share what I believe is the interpretation of the vision? And also why this is the time that we must know, because the time is very, very short.

    Thank you in advance,

    Woody

  61. Some thoughts…
    * The sun was darkened and the moon was blood red- at the same time. Therefore this was not any eclipse event. It is symbolic of the fall of a nation. At one time I thought that this was the USSR. Now I believe it to be our own nation.. the USA.
    * I have shared this before, but will do again now. I was a believer for less then a few months. Perhaps only weeks. Just a teenager. I had just read Hal Lindsay’s book “The Late Great Planet Earth” which had just been released a few months before, and was instrumental in my receiving the gospel and becoming saved. In that book Lindsay presents the common teaching about the rapture, or “the great snatch” as he called it. I was very concerned about the rapture and that I might miss it; being very weak in faith and knowledge at that time. I went to bed that night praying from this fear… that is; being “left behind” in the rapture. You will recall that in the vision of the night a voice said “look to the east” and I turned fully expecting to see the Lord coming in the sky… i.e. the rapture. Of course that was not what happened. No rapture. Just a continuation of the events. I have concluded that at least part of the vision was intended to comfort me about missing the “pre-trib” rapture. Simply because there will be no pre-trib rapture to miss. Within a few years I became more knowledgeable of the Word and came to a correct understanding of the “last day/last trump/first resurrection” teaching of the scripture. I would rather not enter into a debate here about the rapture… perhaps another time and place. But pertaining to the vision in question… there was no pre-trib rapture.
    * The meat of the vision is my life and what I will see occurring during my lifetime.
    * As recounted in the vision, the initial event will be the actual physical persecution of believers. Not mere legislative or cultural persecution, but physical persecution. We have not seen this as of this time. The vision shows the historic events and timeline leading up to that event. We were fleeing persecution. We prayed to the Lord for mercy, and at that time I cane the top of the hill, looked to the west, and saw the houses i.e. the “future history portion” of the vision. The persecution is part of the bolder judgments which begin to occur at some point after the end of the 12th house (Obama). I think (again, all this is my reasonable speculation) the passing of President Carter (may he live to be 120!) will more accurately tag the beginning of that persecution.
    * This vision, while showing the emergence of the political aspect of the Antichrist spirit into the modern world, is not revealing the individual we understand to be “the beast” of revelation. The “little horn.” The vision delineates the decline, fall, and judgement of the USA… all occurring within my lifetime. These things occur in the backdrop of my life… being shown merely as a timeline. A reference if you will.
    * Assuming that the initial theme has to do with my life and my fear of how my fate will play out – I am coming to the conclusion (after almost 50 years!) that the Spirit was essentially showing me my fate (and as a background time reference only, the fate of the USA) that I may be one of many martyrs.
    * This brings me to this understanding… that the vision of the night was essentially for me, to comfort and illustrate to me my fate in response to my fears and prayer of that night. Of course the houses and the events around the revelation may be of interest to any who hear the recounting. But I think the spirit and context of the vision can only be understood when you realize it was given to me for me. That may startle some. “Who are you” that God would deliver such a vision for your own personal consumption and comfort? To which I respond… I am not sure. Only that He wanted me to know my fate, how I would get there, and the events occurring in the background of my lifetime that lead me there. Not a rapture, rather the events leading to that fall and judgement of our nation, all as a backdrop to my own lifetime.
    * As I have also stated, my gifting is the Word of Wisdom. We all have gifts (manifestations) of the Spirit and this is mine. The Word of Wisdom is the reception of knowledge from the mind of God that otherwise cannot be known by natural means, including spiritual truth (“mysteries”) and future events. I have noticed down through the years that this manifestation will reveal things for no apparent reason. The information just sort of pops into my spirit, and then is translated (or interpreted) to my mind – sometimes in symbolic imagery. The 1971 vision of the night is the framework, or the background, for many many dreams, visions, and prophetic words down through the years. A few of the dreams and visions that fill in blanks in the 1971 vision include:
    >the “model rocket” dream (showing the 1971 house vision was a recounting of my life.
    >the “Life magazine” dream (showing the houses represent Presidents),
    >the “Valley of decision” dream (showing that the period of time leading up to Obama was a a valley of decision for America),
    >the “Elk/Moose” dream (showing that there would be a decades long time of “confusion” leading up to the judgments).
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    Enough for now.

    • C. Alan,

      There was so much meat in your post. Thank you. This gives me a much deeper understanding of you. I’m grateful to have a forum, after all these years, to communicate my thoughts about the things you’ve spent many years coming to the same conclusion as myself. That we are to understand that we are going to come to a point in our lives where our convictions will lead to our martyrdom. I also believe that there is going to be a great slaughter of people based on what they believe.

      And I believe that this great slaughter is going to happen in our lifetimes. You say the vision is a timeframe for you and your lifetime, making you a sort of yardstick for everyone else. We share your lifetime and we share your country.

      Martyrdom is clear in Daniel when he says that the saints will be slaughtered with little help and then the Lord will come. That is the order of events in Revelation also. There is no pre-trib rapture. There is a moment when Jesus returns in all His glory. The same scene is described by Daniel, Matthew and John. And this coming happens after a great persecution with mass slaughter. The saints before the throne in Revelation. They were the martyrs that came out of the Great Tribulation. And in your vision you were running away from some terror during the Tribulation.

      It is clear from the timeframe that we are the generation that are going to go through the Tribulation, and that I believe the Tribulation has already begun. What has just happened to our country, an earthquake to our soul, we are clearly within the Tribulation.

      So we have had the first four seals. The next one from Revelation is great persecution. We are in the time just before the fifth seal is opened.

      Thanks for listening 🙂

      Woody

    • Mr Martin, where can I read about the valley of decision and elk/moose dreams as I am not familiar with those . Godspeed, dino

      • A few years back I worked up this pdf. Not complete or polished… but I still have it laying around.

        Click to access hswb.pdf

        • Mr Martin, Thank you ,but I can only see the first page. Could you possibly resend it? Thanks, Dino

        • Mr Martin, I just found it online. Thank you so much for making me aware of it -can’t wait to read this material. Godspeed, Dino

        • c alan

          awesome. I just downloaded it 🙂

        • Mr. Martin, it seems that things are in great disarray at this time in our country. The president is being undermined even by the military commanders at this point with the disarming of the National Guard in DC and sending troops away from areas in which the president might need their protection. Mr. Martins, it seems that things are in great disarray at this time in our country. The president is being undermined even by the military commanders at this point as they have disarmed The national guard in DC and sent the Army troops back home . Do you see any correlation with what is happening with the house vision of the night? God bless, Dino

  62. In two earlier posts, I mentioned Occam’s Razor. Here’s a quote from Wikipedia,

    “Occam’s razor (also Ockham’s razor or Ocham’s razor: Latin: novacula Occami; or law of parsimony: Latin: lex parsimoniae) is the problem-solving principle that states that “Entities should not be multiplied without necessity.”[1][2] The idea is attributed to English Franciscan friar William of Ockham (c. 1287–1347), a scholastic philosopher and theologian who used a preference for simplicity to defend the idea of divine miracles. It is sometimes paraphrased by a statement like “the simplest solution is most likely the right one”. Occam’s razor says that when presented with competing hypotheses that make the same predictions, one should select the solution with the fewest assumptions,[3] and it is not meant to be a way of choosing between hypotheses that make different predictions.”

    So with the assistance of Occam, I am presenting my reason for believing the 44th house was Obama. It is the simplest explanation. To make it even more clear, C. Alan learned only this past October that there were 44 houses on that block, no more, no less. A fact that was always in plain sight, but revealed to him only around the time the virus began to spread.

    So I am not basing it on my belief of whether any or all of the 44 prior Presidents were valid Presidents. I am going on the assumption that they each had a number for a reason, and therefore President meaning anyone holding the office of POTUS. 44 Presidents. 44 Houses. The vision isn’t going into subtleties of politics, but giving a timeline, house by house of when the time of the Tribulation would begin.

    Why Trump doesn’t have a house is irrelevant, so I won’t even mention him for now. Instead I will look at the time we are in: the time period after the 12th (44th) house, and there is a pandemic that is raging that is going to send millions into homelessness and bankruptcy. A total crash of the economy. The line, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages,[b] and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!” will be how people in the months to come will be living.

    This great country was crushed in an instant. That is what we are living through right now, and it will only get worse. This devastation of a country in a matter of days is not going to reverse itself or heal for a very long time.

    This is the snapshot of where we are in this very moment. We are living through the financial ruin described in the Fourth Seal. But as it pertains to the vision of the night, we are in the time period after the presidency of Obama.

    And here we are, living in that time, as in the vision, a time of devastation brought on by a pandemic.

    During this time of great turmoil and danger and financial ruin, Donald Trump is our President. That is not a political statement, but that is a fact. During the time period—using the vision as a sort of ruler for measuring time, with Presidents as the markers on the ruler, it leads us to the time that we are living in now. That part of the vision is turmoil, plague and famine.

    We are in the space between the Fourth Seal, and all the turmoil it will bring to us, and the Fifth when the great persecution begins. What will be the defining question, our choice of our own fate? It will be whether or not we willfully accept the mark. It is either being totally cut off from your money and the ability to survive versus your soul that you would lose if you took the mark. Those that do not take the mark will be killed or destitute.

    So the mark could be something as simple as saying there are no longer dollars but another currency that can only be accessed through the chip. In an instant everyone is cut off from their money unless they take this chip. We know the fate of those that take the chip, they go onto the horrors of the trumpets, and ultimately are damned.

    At the coming of Christ, which will be a spectacle in the sky, I have to believe Daniel, Jesus and John, those that are his will rise along with the martyrs. This first resurrection is what became to be called the Rapture. Many are putting their hope on the rapture to save them from the tribulation. They have been led into these beliefs. But as C. Alan said, there is no pre-trib rapture. The tribulation is a period of time that everyone alive at the time has to go through, there are no free passes.

    The only path through those times is to not take the chip, regardless of the consequences, knowing that to die is to die a martyr.

    We are in the space of time between the beginning of the tribulation and the Abomination of Desolation that marks the beginning of the mark, and the Fifth Seal.

    I guess the most important thing I want to get across is that we are no longer in the place where we’re looking forward in time to see the fulfillment of prophecy, we are the generation that is living through it, and it has begun.

    • woody

      I agree about the times we are in. I was thinking the pandemic should not be labelled covid, but the bill gates disease. gates has the patent on the corona virus and is pushing the “vaccine,” which may be worse than the virus.

      whoever the AC is, it will become evident in the next few years.

      believers should prepare and brace themselves for the tribulation, as Jesus himself said we would experience this in MATT 24.

      • Marianne,

        I believe it will be sooner, much sooner. I’m glad that you mentioned Matthew 24. After laying out the timeline very succinctly for the events of the end, referring to Daniel, and given more detail in Revelation, He shares a series of parables that are meant specifically for those who will be living through the Tribulation.

        They each speak to a different kind of readiness.

        First He warns us–that is our generation–to be ready, since the end-time events will come like flood–unexpected. Think of a tsunami. One day people will be buying and selling and marrying and giving in marriage, and the next they are hunkered down in their homes under shelter at home orders. So there are different kinds of readiness that Jesus teaches us, us meaning this generation.

        First is readiness in being faithful to your duties, being kind to those who work under you, and faithful to what is entrusted to you. Honesty in industry, in all dealings with others.

        The 10 Virgins has always been the most intriguing of the parables. I have been unable to understand until this moment what the oil in the lamp is. It is Truth. The Truth will set you free. There will be those who have the truth, and have been guiding themselves through the events of the tribulation with the wisdom gained from accurate information, and the truth about events. There is such a wide distance between two different views on the same subject. The extreme polarization of our country has made it so. So there will be the 5 virgins who had the truth, and knew what to do at the time of Jesus’ coming. There were the other 5, who knew suddenly they had no knowledge of what they had to do, and the other 5 didn’t have the time to teach them.

        There are countless competing conspiracy theories. But there is only one truth. If one truly wants to know the truth, they must seek it, not in the tabloids, but in the scriptures. We are told to test the spirits. We are told that there will be false prophets who teach falsehoods. The wise person seeks the truth. They seek to know the truth even if it shatters their world. The seeker is promised finding. If you desire to know the truth, Ask–ask the right questions, don’t phrase your questions with you already knowing the answer you want. But be open to learning something you don’t want to know. But be brave enough to ask it. And the Lord promises an answer. But you must be honestly inquisitive, not deciding the answer before you ask the question.

        The next parable speaks of being faithful with the gifts God has given you. Good stewards. So this is about financial readiness for the end times. Those in debt will be enslaved first.

        It is the next parable that speaks of the most important readiness. It really speaks to the 2 Greatest Commandments.

        “Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?”

        37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

        The sheep and the goats are separated based on only one criteria. It wasn’t their doctrine. It wasn’t their religion. It wasn’t their theology. It wasn’t their beliefs nor their piety. It was how they treated their fellow human beings. Who is our neighbor that we are to love? Everyone is our neighbor. Politics divide us. Religion divides us. But we are going to be judged on well we treat everyone including, “publicans and sinners.” God wants everyone to be saved, and that cannot be done through exclusion.

        We are all in the tribulation together. There will be people who saved up better and are able to last longer. How will they share with those that are suffering. There is no Red or Blue in the Kingdom. There is no Democrat or Republican in the Kingdom. There is no liberal or conservative in the Kingdom. Jesus is the King. Jesus taught us to love our enemies, do good to those who would do us harm.

        Our light through these times is the truth that the way will be found in how we treat others. If we betray others, we will be betrayed, if we protect others, we will be protected.

        This is the time, ,just before the persecution, that Jesus said the gospel of the Kingdom will go out to all the nations. The gospel of the Kingdom of Yeshua Ha’Moshiach has no political party in any part of it. The gospel of the Kingdom is that God will save you.

        Why will people need to know that God will save them? Because during the tribulation they will be facing death if don’t take the mark. They have to trust God and have faith in Him that they are saved, and will be in His presence.

        The truths that will guide us: God is Love. We are to Love God. We are to love all others as we love ourselves. If we are being led by our leaders to hate another group, some ‘other,’ and we persecute that group, we are not showing love, we are being the persecutors. We are to love one another if we are to get through this.

        • woody

          awesome insight.

          I never thought of the oil as truth before. I assumed it was the holy spirit

          • Marianne,

            Thank you! It is weird, all these years I have puzzled over the oil. It wasn’t until the moment I started forming that sentence that the word “Truth” came to me, and I know in my spirit that it is the meaning.

            A lamp is a very simple device. It has the reservoir and the wick and the flame. If there is oil flowing to the wick, the wick is not consumed. What is the wick? Us. We are the wick. If we have the oil of grounded knowledge, of unbiased reporting of current events, and the discipline to pursue that knowledge, the light that will shine from getting to the truth of any matter will guide you in the tribulation.

            We are told “24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.”

            The only way that the elect do not get deceived is by seeking the unbiased truth.

            So what happens to a lamp that has run out of oil? So we’d have a lamp with no truth–the empty one, and the one that is still burning. What happens to a wick when the lamp runs out of oil? It burns. It will give light, but the light will be mixed with smoke, the smoke of itself being consumed. So truth is not only essential to keeping the lamp lit, the flame going, but also to preserve the wick. Since oil is a consumable, it has to be replenished so the lamp never runs dry.

            What truths? You must know, from a reliable source, what is going on in the world. And if the source that you have been relying on is vastly different, ask questions, like why? And don’t stop until you get the answer. But if you do not read sources that are being condemned now from the podium, you are following orders to not seek the truth. Truth will set you free.

            I seek sources from the middle, two leaning very slightly left of middle, and one slightly to the right. So when I look at the reporting of an event, I can see how each skew is presenting an account of an event. If there is footage, I will watch the footage from several sources. All my information, I get from daily reading of these 3 sources.

            That is seeking the truth. Being informed. If one account, citing multiple health experts says that the virus could only have come from nature, and another says that it was manufactured, I would ask why even a right-leaning paper, the Wall Street Journal debunks it. But one is the Truth and one is a Lie. Which one do you want in your lamp? The truth or the lie. Truth has become so very fuzzy these days with the media being attacked, in fact anyone who says the truth about something is getting attacked. So who would have a better handle on the truth of a technical matter? A scientist or a politician?

            It is time to seek the truth, seek the truth, and keep seeking it, because it has become more elusive than ever. For those who stop their ears and won’t seek out the truth out of fear, they will be those bridesmaids left out in the dark.

  63. Please watch these…Some of it’s contrarian but we can all glean from this.

    • Thank you , Glenn

    • Hello brothers and sisters,
      Once again, thanks for the comments and discussion.
      I would just like to say again that this vision of the night was not about the last president. Obama (or Trump) is not the last president any more than Truman was the first. He was simple the last president before the beginning of the judgement of America. This began after the exit of Obama and I believe that we are into it now. The trouble we see is not going to go away regardless of who is Pres. Thanks again for the discussion.
      C.

  64. I wonder if the 6 stars are not the years obama has in office, but 6 extra years of influence after he leaves office. these would be 6 years of trump. currently obama is instigating and supporting race riots and other lies and violence. so the year 2022 would be the last year before the 6th seal.? trump would go in the rapture, and obama would get back into power.?

    • As I have said before, I believe Ford should not be counted as a true president because he was only the acting president to fill out Nixon’s term. He is the only one on the list that was not elected to the office. This makes
      Trump the 12th and last true president.

      Dreams and visions of asteroids or comets striking the earth are numerous on the internet today. The book of Revelation gives more than one instance
      of this occurrence. I believe the six stars are six asteroids or comets which are predestined to strike the earth, and the star that fell will be the first in the series. This first one will apparently fall sometime after the election in November. Mother Shipton also predicted six strikes. My study of crop circles agrees with this number (theheckhypothesis.com).

  65. I would like to address this comment:
    “Your interpretations always seem to make Democrats the cause of dark clouds and problems, while your vision skips over the corrupt Supreme Court installation of the George W. Bush administrations, his lies, and the false war that is still going on. How convenient that this “vision” just happens to compare to whatever was going on at the time, and now it suddenly ends with Obama. Surprise, surprise! I’ll check back in a few years to see how it’s all Hillary’s fault. None too impressed.”
    Please remember I received this vision of the night in 1971 shortly after my 17th birthday. At that time the republicans were in control and Nixon was sending us (young men) off to be killed in VN. I was certainly no fan of republicans or Nixon. Also recall that I did not even know that these houses represented presidential administrations until 1994… 23 years after I received the revelation. Understand that this really has little or nothing to do with the presidents. They (the houses) are merely markers as to where we are in the timeline. This is not about politics. It is about the signs of the times.
    If you suspect that this was all made up in current times to mirror current events, then simply do a web search for “house vision of the night.” You will find the vision related on the infant internet and there are copies as early as 1995.
    As far as the dark clouds, observe that they first appeared over the Reagan and Bush 1 houses, and also existed over Bush 2. Again, it has little or nothing to do with the man in the office… it has to do with the timeline.
    And just to make a point… I actually agree these things involve republican administrations as well as democrat administrations.

  66. Dream of the end of the Presidency:

    https://444prophecynews.com/end-of-the-presidency-truthistheway/

    Note the early date of the dream.

    • kenneth

      2013.. obama term
      2016 trump

      if anything presidency will end if trump leaves and a democrat gets in again.

      wait and see about jan 20th

      • Yes, I am the one who thinks the Houses end with Trump rather than Obama. Dreams don’t always refer to events in the immediate future. The election of Obama foreshadows the Trump election and the end of the presidency.

  67. Trump, the 12th house, and the last legally elected president, has had his re-election stolen from him by massive voter fraud. Nothing really good to look forward to on the American political scene for the rest of this century.

    • Amen. I think everything went to heck when Obama was in. I think he is the one that ruined the country .and after that is just repair jobs that don’t last

  68. I believe the judgement of America began during the Obama admin. I think the last straw was when they lit up the White House with the LGBQ rainbow colors. It was a fist into the face of God.
    God is not mocked.

    • Do you believe Biden was legally elected? Overwhelming voter fraud in a presidential election is a first for America, . Both the Obama and Trump administrations may be called the worst in American history by historians, even though both were legally elected.

      I think the real tone for the 21st century was set with the 2001 Twin Towers attack. We are no longer in the “American Century” which the 20th century has been called. There was no “peace dividend” with the so-called end of the Cold War. Billions upon billions have been spent on war and fighting terrorism.

    • C alan

      I agree. too much damage was done under obama.

      Trump was given to us to wake us up to how bad it all was.

      to bring america back , half the country would have to be destroyed, imprisoned or executed for treason

      the enemy is relentless. it will continue to attack until the bitter end. it does not care if it kills everyone in the process. they are already calling for conservatives and believers to be labeled as terrorists and put in camps

      • Marianne,

        Who gets destroyed? Who gets imprisoned? Who gets executed? I voted for Biden, our legally elected President. Which does that make me eligible? Destruction, imprisonment or execution? “Love your neighbor as you love yourself.”

        There is no way that Christ would call for half the country to be destroyed, imprisoned or executed. This is not coming from the Gospel of Christ, but a foreign gospel, the gospel of a god of fortresses.

        • woody

          the wicked get destroyed as a preview of a later time

          also the righteous get persecuted as a preview as well.

          tough time for everyone.

          wait and see how the next year goes.

      • Yeah… we are of a like mind in this. No nation can do what this nation has done and expect smiles and roses. Millions of children executed. I believe that God is raising up a last day’s army of believers who will invade the world with evangelists and worshippers who press the Gospel and power to the ends of the earth. Satan is aware of this and has introduced the abortion holocaust to murder these ministers in the womb of their mothers. Now the church will endure persecution at the hands of the anti-christ spirit that is in control of the liberals, socialists, leftists. People are easily deceived when he offers them what they want and what they like. Some of this is detailed in my book “The Judgement of America” 2012). This book was banned by Amazon.

  69. Thanks to all for their comments. This has been a part of my life for 50 years come this Spring. You can imagine the effect on your psyche. You have a vision of the night in 1971, and decades later you begin to see those things begin to come to pass. Mysteries that have puzzled me for decades are being solved and revealed before my eyes. It is like coming home after a lifetime away.

  70. I believe the mystery has been solved. With the end of Trumps presidency, there has been a change in American politics and to the office of the “Presidency” that has NEVER been seen before. Trump drastically changed what was considered as normal and presidential.

    No president in history has caused such confusion or division as Trump has done. No, not even Obama. I believe this is the end of the political “street” as we have known it in America and going forward there will be differences in our election processes. This is not what the founding fathers dreamed of when this nation was founded. Those put in positions of leadership are called to higher standards. They must rise above the norm. Trump did not do this. He sunk the office to terrible lows.

    I have followed this dream for years and believe God gave this to Mr. Martin to allow him to see what the further held for America. God does not see as man sees therefore I believe the dream shows America from the point of view of the Lord.

    • I think you should stop listening to mainstream media. It is pure poison and nothing but propaganda from the left. You are entitled to your opinion but I disagree with you and think you are completely wrong. I’ve never seen such horrible propaganda in my life. Is equivalent to what you see in a communist country.

      The method of influence now is to accuse a person and that makes them guilty just because they have been accused. There’s no evidence. The accusation is the proof in their mind. Scripture says that the devil is the accuser of the brethren. Innocent people should not have to defend themselves against accusations that are false. But nowadays people are tried and convicted based on people hate and false accusations. This is really evil and people should be careful about what they listen to and what they are willing to believe

    • Thank you for your comments, Diane.
      Things surely have changed in the US Government since I was 17 when I first received this. The houses represent Presidential administrations, and the actual Presidents are irrelevant for the most part. The houses and administrations are merely indications of time. It was during the 12th house (Obmana was President) that a new dark spirit was released upon the USA. This dark power really had nothing to do with the man in the office. It was just coincidental that Obama and Trump were in office at these times and bore the brunt of this evil power and its effort to subjugate the people of the US, destroy the Church, and ultimately prepare the US for the coming Antichrist one-world Government. What we see in politics is merely a symptom of these spiritual powers in conflict. It is also just co-incidental that Biden is falling into line with that wicked spirit’s works and goal. It does not matter who the man is, they will have to contend with this spiritual wickedness in high places. One President may hold to policies and principles that will facilitate that spirits’ goals, while another President may hold to policies and goals that content with them. Political parties and politicians are irrelevant. They are all in the one-world system. They will all fall before our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
      I believe we are in the days of the restoration of the church. It has been prophesied that He will raise up and give birth to a generation of believers that will both praise Him and that will spearhead a worldwide movement to evangelize billions (with a b). The devil seeks to kill that army in their mother’s wombs. Nobody can know how many apostles, prophets, teachers, evangelists, and pastors he has murdered by abortion. The devil must keep abortion legal, easy, and even preferable to birth itself. Satan must destroy this army of God. If Jesus were to be born in this day, I suspect abortion would have been the devil’s chosen method to kill Him.
      All you see today in our nation, culture, politics, science, entertainment, and education structured are geared to one or both of two things. One is to murder in the womb that generation that will praise the Lord. The other is to prepare the western world for the Antichrist system, which is with us today. It is confusion, lying, hate, and death. It is what you have been seeing in our streets and around the world for the last few years. It is not about Trump or Biden or politics. It is about this wicked spirit that has fallen down to the earth and that is striving to enslave the world in its lies, hatred, conflict, and confusion. I am coming to believe that this evil spirit is what I saw as a star falling to the earth in my vision of the night. It came toward the end of the previous Administration (house 12). We are now right where the vision started, in a time when persecution of believers is beginning, and that aforementioned revival will start.
      I also believe that God gave our nation 40 years (since 1980) to repent and turn from their evil ways. Instead, they used these 40 years to multiply their wickedness and increase their rebellion against God. Hense God has given our nation over to its evil desires. We have received what we wanted. A nation without God. Yet God will not let that go unanswered. He will move and a spiritual war is before us.
      I pray people are on the side of God.
      Peace in Jesus.

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