Immanuel – Isaiah’s Son, and the Assyrian

Immanuel - God With us

Unsolved mysteries in scripture

Christians traditionally and sentimentally refer to Isaiah 7:14 as a virgin birth prophecy.

But scripture has to be interpreted properly

In context, it refers to the birth of Isaiah’s son, who was a time marker for the Assyrian invasion that overthrew Syria and Samarian threats to the kingdom of Judah.

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Context: Isaiah 7

Invasion threat to King Ahaz of Judah from Samaria and Syria

7 When Ahaz son of Jotham, the son of Uzziah, was king of Judah, King Rezin of Aram and Pekah son of Remaliah king of Israel marched up to fight against Jerusalem, but they could not overpower it.

2 Now the house of David was told, “Aram has allied itself with[a] Ephraim”; so the hearts of Ahaz and his people were shaken, as the trees of the forest are shaken by the wind.

3 Then the Lord said to Isaiah, “Go out, you and your son Shear-Jashub,[b] to meet Ahaz at the end of the aqueduct of the Upper Pool, on the road to the Launderer’s Field.

***Note: Isaiah already has one son, who seems to be at least a young adult, and who accompanies Isaiah on a mission. So maybe Isaiah is in his forties by now, as well as his wife.

4 Say to him, ‘Be careful, keep calm and don’t be afraid. Do not lose heart because of these two smoldering stubs of firewood—because of the fierce anger of Rezin and Aram and of the son of Remaliah.

5 Aram, Ephraim and Remaliah’s son have plotted your ruin, saying,

6 “Let us invade Judah; let us tear it apart and divide it among ourselves, and make the son of Tabeel king over it.”

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Yahweh’s promise of protection to Isaiah and Ahaz – which will happen within 65 years, not 2000 years later

7 Yet this is what the Sovereign Lord says:

“‘It will not take place,
    it will not happen,
8 for the head of Aram is Damascus,
    and the head of Damascus is only Rezin.
Within sixty-five years
    Ephraim will be too shattered to be a people
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9 The head of Ephraim is Samaria,
    and the head of Samaria is only Remaliah’s son.
If you do not stand firm in your faith,
    you will not stand at all.’”

The Lord also speaks to King Ahaz who shies away from Yahweh

10 Again the Lord spoke to Ahaz,

11 “Ask the Lord your God for a sign, whether in the deepest depths or in the highest heights.”

12 But Ahaz said, “I will not ask; I will not put the Lord to the test.”

13 Then Isaiah said, “Hear now, you house of David! Is it not enough to try the patience of humans? Will you try the patience of my God also?

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Yahweh gives Ahaz (and Isaiah) a sign of protection

14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you[c] a sign: The virgin[d] will conceive and give birth to a son, and[e] will call him Immanuel.[f]

***Note: controversy is over the Hebrew word Almah, which means a very young woman, usually unmarried, therefore assumed a virgin.

For those who can read Hebrew, proof :

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It does not say Ishah, or wife here.

There are other words for wife, but they are not used either.

Almah is not used in any case to mean wife.

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Timing of the sign- deliverance will come when child is young- since the threat is imminent, this has to be soon

15 He will be eating curds and honey when he knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right,

16 for before the boy knows enough to reject the wrong and choose the right, the land of the two kings you dread will be laid waste.

17 The Lord will bring on you and on your people and on the house of your father a time unlike any since Ephraim broke away from Judah—he will bring the king of Assyria.”

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Assyria, the Lord’s Instrument

18 In that day the Lord will whistle for flies from the Nile delta in Egypt and for bees from the land of Assyria.

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Summary so far

The child to be born will be named Immanuel, which is a mystery, since no child was ever named that in the Bible by his mother, who is an almah, young maiden, not wife.

The child will be young when the “within 65 years” prophecy is fulfilled, and Assyria comes to defeat Ephraim and Syria.

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Whose Child?

Child could not be for Ahaz.

Hezikiah was already about 9 years old when Ahaz became king, and became king himself when he was 25 years old (716-687 BC) . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hezekiah

So Ahab had already had his son before he became king (732-716 BC), which was during the second reign of Pekah ben Remaliah. (752-740, 733-722 BC)

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It is interesting, however, that Ahaz is an ancestor of Yahsua/ Jesus.

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Child is for Isaiah

8 Moreover the Lord said unto me, Take thee a great roll, and write in it with a man’s pen concerning Maher-shalal-hash-baz.

2 And I took unto me faithful witnesses to record, Uriah the priest, and Zechariah the son of Jeberechiah.

3 And I went unto the prophetess; and she conceived, and bare a son. Then said the Lord to me, Call his name Maher-shalal-hash-baz.

4 For before the child shall have knowledge to cry, My father, and my mother, the riches of Damascus and the spoil of Samaria shall be taken away before the king of Assyria.

Notice the father and the Lord named the son, not the mother.

Since Isaiah already had another , older son, Shear-Jashub, before Maher-shalal-hash-baz, his wife was not an almah anymore.

Finally, the Lord addresses “Immanuel”

8 And he [King of Assyria] shall pass through Judah; he shall overflow and go over, he shall reach even to the neck; and the stretching out of his wings shall fill the breadth of thy land, O Immanuel.

According to rabbinic literature, Isaiah was the maternal grandfather of Manasseh of Judah.[43]

Manasseh was Hezekiah’s oldest son.

So Isaiah was Hezekiah’s brother in law.

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Unsolved Mysteries?

Why was the mother called an almah, and not a wife?

If the mother was to name the child, why did the Lord tell Isaiah to do it?

Why was the name changed to something else?

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Timing of Predicted Child and Yahshua/Jesus

Mary was an almah, but was married to Joseph, and did not call Yahshua/Jesus Immanuel.

The timing of delivering Israel from oppression at a young age for the child Jesus does not apply.

Yahshua/Jesus as a young child, as well as an adult, saw no deliverance of Israel from enemies.

The prophecy of “within 65 years” is not fulfilled, as Yahshua/Jesus was born about 1200 years later.

Israel was under Roman occupation before and after Yahshua/Jesus was on earth.

The Assyrians no longer existed as an identifiable group at that time.

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Future application of prophecy?

Since there are unexplained aspects of this prophecy as noted above, possibly the answer is in the future, not the past.

Most of the prophecy was fulfilled thousands of years ago as explained in the post.

But for the rest of it, there will be a future time when a child born of a virgin “sees” the land of Israel/ Judah delivered from its enemies, when the Assyrian collective of now modern nations invade Israel for the last time, as prophesied in Ezekiel 38.

Maybe the “woman” Israel will finally call her “child” Immanuel, meaning “God is with us.”

More thoughts on this topic:

Immanuel Hasn’t Come Yet


70 Responses to “Immanuel – Isaiah’s Son, and the Assyrian”

  1. 12~28~2020 It’s RAINING now in Southern CA. Thank You Yahweh!
    Yahshua the Messiah the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
    PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
    HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

    “Emmanuel” in Hebrew means “Elohim With Us.”

    ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  2. The name ‘Immanuel” was not intended to be an official name. Otherwise,
    rather than “call him Immanuel:” it would have been written “call his name Immanuel.” This described his function as the son of God and therefore an instance of the divine presence of God. Mary knew that Christ was the Son of God. Isaiah didn’t name the child, this was done by the Lord.

    Ahaz, by rejecting God’s request, was not able to see the sign during his lifetime. He did not want a sign, so it was delayed by over 700 years. It is possible that he may have seen the sign some 700 years after his death.

    It is correct that Ephraim and Syria were conquered by Assyria long before the child (Jesus Christ) was able to tell right from wrong. The standard interpretation of this passage is correct. The brief way events and situations are described in the bible leads to a lot of misinterpretations.

    • The prophecy was fulfilled within a few years by the birth of Isaiah’s son if you look in the next chapter in chapter 8 you will see God calls Isaiah’s son Immanuel. Even though he was officially named something else

  3. The naming of Isaiah’s son came through a separate word of the Lord, not
    involving Immanuel.

    The relevant verses in Chapter 8:5-8 refer to a future invasion by Assyria during the Kingdom Age under Christ. Isaiah has already prophesied about the invasion coming about 722 BC in the prior chapter. This future invasion of Assyria and Christ ‘s victory is described in Micah 5:2-6.

    We think of the Kingdom Age as one of a thousand years of uninterrupted peace, but the bible doesn’t say this exactly.

    • 12~30~2020 The Waning Days of Roman (Christian) year 2020.
      Yahshua the Prince of Peace The Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM Revelation 14:1
      HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

      After Yahshua returns? There isn’t any future invasion al all! Before He comes, remember He said: “It’s done!” Revelation 21:6 Also, when the seventh angel sounds, the mystery of Yahweh finishes.” Revelation 10:7
      In Revelation 22:18 is a warning about adding any words to the prophecy of this book.

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

      • How do you explain the invasion of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20:8-10?

        • THAT? Please read verses 7 – 15. It is the explanation. This takes place AFTER the Millennium. No invasion! Those “of the sand of the sea?” They are the resurrected wicked. The Evil One is loosed (Verse 7) and convinces them to attack “The New Jerusalem” that has come down from Heaven after The Millennium, Revelation 21:2. Yahweh sends fire down from Heaven to burn them up along with what I believe is the previously very damaged surface of Earth.

          ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

          • ezekiel 38 , zach 12 invasions, battle of armageddon

            • IMHO, Ezekiel 38 – 39 and Zachariah 12 are NOT the events of Revelation 20. The events of Revelation 20 are AFTER The Millennium. The others if (IF!) they are to happen? They must happen before Yahshua returns and the beginning of The Millennium.

              ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

        • also ezekiel 38 invasion confirmation, and battle of armageddon!

    • that is what I was thinking

      • Hi Marianne! IMHO, Ezekiel 38 – 39 happens BEFORE Yahshua returns. Not after! Again, it involves Russia, Iran, and allies coming against Israel AND America at the same time. It is Yahweh that causes these nations to attack not the Evil One mentioned in Revelation 20. These verses confirms this: Ezekiel 38:2 – 4, Ezekiel 39: 1 – 3.
        Really, at this time CORRECT understanding of Bible prophecy is VITAL!

        ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

      • Christ’s thousand year reign with the saints is represented in Rev 5:6 as a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes. Why does the lamb need seven horns? Horns are nations which have military and perhaps spiritual power for offense or defense.

        These seven horns are for defense only in the event of invasion. Otherwise, all other nations must “beat their swords into plowshares” in order to come under the Kingdom of God. This is a slow process and completely non-violent. The Kingdom of God doesn’t cover the earth very quickly.

        There is no need for seven horns if the Kingdom does not need to defend itself. Unlike the invasion in 722 BC, this coming invasion by Assyria in the distant future will be a failure, since Jesus Christ is on the throne to defend the Kingdom of God.

        There could be a question why Assyria is named for both invasions. The most likely reason is that the religion and spirituality of the future Assyrians
        closely parallel that of Assyria in the past. Assyrians in the past were known for their extraordinary brutality and indifference to human life.

        The approximate length of time between the Exodus and the conquest of Samaria of about 700 years may be a clue as to when the second invasion occurs – probably toward the end of the thousand year period.

        • Good points

        • No. IMHO, Revelation 5:6 is NOT about the 1,000 year reign with the saints. Apparently, it’s a summation of what comes after this chapter. Revelation 6 begins with the opening of the first of the seals. I believe that this seal (rider on the white horse) represents the beginning of The Christian Vatican, The Papacy, in The Third Century. In fact, all the horses can represent different powers of this beast of Revelation 13:1. I first learned about this from an ex-Jesuit priest who was later martyred.
          The red = The Cardinal system and Communism The black= The Jesuit System which brought “The Inquisition.” It apparently also controlled the sale of those items mentioned in Scripture. The pale = DEATH in many forms: The Nazis with death camps and poisons like COVID-19 coronavirus and other plagues, pharmaceutical drugs (many developed by the Nazis), nuclear bombs?, chem trails, COVID-19 nose-jab testing, and vaccines! DON’T GET THEM!
          Those seven spirits and eyes? The verse gives the meaning! They are the seven spirits of Yahweh sent forth into all the earth. This happened A VERY LONG TIME AGO! The only event mentioned is “a Lamb having been slain.” I believe these words are about the time Yahshua the Messiah died (for us!) IMHO that was on a Passover between 23 A.D. and 27 A.D.
          Sadly, Kenneth, you do seem terribly confused Biblically. This is possibly because you choose to remain in Christianity.

          ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

          • But Jayna, what about the seven horns? How do you explain them?

            • 1~3~2021 On Yahweh’s Green Earth. King David in Psalm 24:1
              Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
              HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

              Kenneth. AGAIN. Your answer is in the verse. They are the seven spirits of Yahweh sent forth into all the world at that time. That’s pretty plain! Other then that, I cannot tell you what they are. Scripture at least here does not tell us. However, I believe they went out at the time Yahshua died for us. IMHO, that was between 23 and 27 A.D. NOT IN THE FUTURE MILLENIUM!

              ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  4. watch ! simon parkes – martial law

    • he mention General hyten , simon parkes update

      simon parkes said in this video : in 6 weeks to 3 months military will run USA and President Trump will be invited to come in as the legal winner. and take office.

      for next few weeks, it might be a group of generals in office , let non-political people clean up what is a mess. and then Trump will come back.

      • WOW! Don’t think so. IMHO, if he does or does not? Does NOT matter! Trump, Biden, and Hitler worked, work for The Christian
        Vatican in Rome, Italy. The U.S. Government has become The Two – Horned Beast of Revelation 13:18 . It has turned it’s power over to the first beast in verse 1: The Christian Vatican.

        ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

      • That is the plan. I mean that is their plan. I was reading in the Book of Genesis about the storm or the flood that Noah went through and it took him up to a year to get through everything before everything was really clear

    • I wonder how someone from the UK knows more than we do


  5. Lin Wood Special Broadcast: A Process WILL Play Out To Put President Trump Back In Office!

    • Why would THEY? Seems to me that Trump was too openly Christian Nazi. People woke up! IMHO, American “elections” have been FAKED for years (Decades?)
      Biden has promised to get every American vaccinated with COVID-19 vaccine.
      DON’T GET THIS NAZI POISON! OR NOSE-JAB TESTING EITHER!

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  6. FlashPoint: It’s Not Over! Prophecy & Presidents

  7. https://t.me/linwoodspeakstruth

    lin wood account

    copy from lin wood telegram account last night 12:10 am message and photo.

    Biden “live” inauguration was seen 11 hours earlier in Spain? Amazing. Or just more Biden/Cabal/China fraud . pre-recording inauguration ???

    • 1~16~2021 Happy Sabbath on Yahweh’s Earth!Yahshua The Prince of Peace Son of YahwehReturns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!” ??? Would NOT be surprised! One William Mount 2on YouTube reports that there are Trump and Biden “doubles.” Says that Pelosi and VP Harris are not nowthe original ones. Says that Harris is now a man. ???IMHO, this is just another indication that U.S. elections are FAKED. And, sadly, have been for years.ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

      —————————————–

  8. https://t.me/greatawakeningenyht/47

    from telegram

    • 1~21~2021 On A COVID-19 Plagued Earth. Still Yahweh’s!
      Yahshua The King of Kings The Only Son Of Yahweh The
      Creator of EVERYTHING Returns VERY SOON!
      PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM.
      Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

      ??? IMHO The U.S. Government is now ALL “Deep State”
      under The Christian Vatican! So was Fuhrer (Dictator) Adolf Hitler and
      his swastika, a CROOKED CROSS!
      I did like seeing JFK’s photo though.

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  9. https://t.me/linwoodspeakstruth
    lin wood account –
    lin wood telegram account last night 12:10 am message and photo.
    check out
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oibtdcwomas

    • Gee. It really does not matter! Biden or Trump! AGAIN! The U.S. Government is under The Christian Vatican in Rome, Italy. I for one am glad to see Trump go. IMHO, his words and actions for most of his years as President? They were too much like Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, said to be his idol.

      CHRISTIANS! It’s TIME to WAKEY WAKEY!

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

    • Rhett video was boring they just do not get to the point

  10. only first 1 hour

    Lin Wood Fireside Chat Episode 9!!! Just released!!!

    •Jan 22, 2021

    • only first 1 hour

      Lin Wood Fireside Chat Episode 9!!! Just released!!!

      • first 15 minutes only

        he think there is military rule , yes , he think.

        the Military does intervene

      • Without military it’s a lost cause because we see the justice system is corrupt .tribunal court will deal with those evil people

      • joe Biden files on charter jet not government airplane for inauguration trip to Washington dc after being denied by military plane

  11. few days ago, i had a dream,

    in the night time, i accompany a christian on the way to a destination where that christian had some mission to work on.

    along the way , we pass by some scary and dangerous area , that christian need a companion to move forward.

    we did reach the destination and finish her goal , then we try to return to our home .

    unfortunately, on the way back , it look like that i was throw under the bus,

    i need to walked alone on that dangerous road.

    in the dream , i cried out and ask Lord to save me.

    “““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““““`

    years ago, i had prayed with that christian to help her husband missionary works for few years. after they retired, everything was changed.

    anyone has some thoughts on this dream ,thanks

    • I think the dream is self-explanatory and you do understand it . you just want confirmation.

      I think one of the main things that the scripture says is that we trust in God not man. Man will always fail us in some way even if they have the best intentions.

      We pray that we have someone to walk with in life and someone to help us. But ultimately we have to walk alone and trust in God to walk with us.

      I think we are entering all into a Time where our faith will be tested. This can only be done if we have to stand alone in some circumstances. And trust God only. Is a lonely time. We do not want to be alone.

      But it is a test we all have to go through. I have been walking alone for the past 20 years. I’m always by myself unless I talk to somebody on the internet. But there is no one here except me. It is a time where that you get close to God and have solitude. Or a time where you do not get close to God and you feel incredible loneliness.

      I have been through this already and I can tell you that only with God can we make it through the test. I look forward to the day when I can be with fellow Believers in the host of Heaven. So brace yourself for tests. It will seem like dangerous times but just know that you can do this. You can make it when it seems like you’re walking alone because God will help you.

    • Hi qt! Maybe sharing my experience with you will help. Years ago I decided that when I dreamed of a person I know I will pray for him/her. I thought that possibly they were in my dreams because they needed my prayers. Recently, I dreamed of my daughter who lives many states away in Tennessee. (I hardly ever dream of people I know.) She and I were walking towards an eatery filled with people. (Can you imagine that now?) After this dream I doubled my efforts to get her and her family to take the NAC that I gave to her very early last year. (To prevent Coronavirus’) She like me won’t take the COVID-19 nose-jab testing and vaccines. But it seems that she still believes NAC is a drug. It’s an amino acid, a NATURAL substance! Tennessee is said to be one of the worst states for COVID-19 transmission.
      I hope that my experience helps your understanding.

      ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  12. that is the gun salute that is given to foreign dignitaries….not the President.

    that is not 21 gun salute ,

    it was 10 seconds interval and the presidential salute is 3 secons interval

    For Biden there were 3 guns lined up; 2 are used. There were only 10 shots – 5 each with a 10 sec delay.

    4 Guns are used for a 21 Gun Salute. 3 are used for Funerals and State Dignitaries.

  13. Military Blocks Insurgency/Biden is NOT the President

  14. DID MARINES REFUSE TO SALUTE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN????????

  15. – Military Not Wearing Their Ranks On Uniform! 21 Gun Salute comparison!

    • Maybe they were burying biden and not saluting him . And the guy there is just a double

      • there is no rank or honor on the military jack according to the video,

        i do not knew what about.. i do not know anything about military

        are they actors

      • Marianne, that’s a thought! Biden was getting kind of shaky mentally. Kamala Harris is rumored to have been replaced, too, by a MAN!
        Supposedly, Trump was impeached by the House and Senate on January 28. According to the rules a president not in office cannot be impeached. ??? We really have to wonder about this “Elephant and Donkey Show.”

        ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!

  16. start from time make 6:00 , do not know if true or not ,

    quote : Iran is looking to start a war with Israel ,

    china is pushing iran to cause war with Israel

    one of the great stumbling block is saudi arab

    chain try to consume the west whether yet another middle east war

    under the cover, china want to take taiwan ????

    do not guarantee it is true , i agree most of them, you need to pray and ask God

    ,military in the background controlling biden’s president

    inauguration is pre-taped on a stage ,

    you will see new world order play all its cards , let the (ordinary) people see it for themselves ,

    let the people experience the pain ,

    this is very important for people do not understand conspiracy theory the way that you

    these people walk around with the mask, and just obey the order , they do not want to believe there is new world order agenda,

    that is trying to destroy USA and some of them even does not know what that mean , unfortunately they have been mis-educatied

    they do not know what the constitutional republic United States mean ,

    but for those of us , we know the constitution is the basis of our nation that has loyalty and patriotism to that, we have been activated , we are ,

    our spirit is ignited by this new world order take over . we are feeling so squelched as people as country so disregarded , our liberty is taken away ,

    our right to speak ,assembly , the votes have been qualified with fraud , the right to life based in breathing .

    these are things people have to feel ,as people are waking up , looking for allegiance

    start from time mark 6:48 hope it is true

    i know there are 2 governments in US , there is a office holder called biden

    and there is military , when Trump sign executive order on 2/18 and 2/19 2021

    he actually put in a clause it said that it would not be counter-mounted by the next coming president ,

    it is a joint chiefs have given the authority to decide when the national emergency ends

    so biden can’t sign executive order cancelling trump executive order , only the joint chief can decide that happen

    china is very concerned the f35 fighter have been supplied to Saudi arab

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