“Is Not” Will Return As The Beast
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This will be controversial, and could be wrong.
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10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition.
Rev 17
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There can be multiple levels of interpretation to scripture, as well as dual, or multiple, fulfillments of a prophecy.
In the above scripture, one can see this as a succession of “kings” or rulers of an empire, or a country.
While America may, or may not, be the location of the Beast personality, this is an exercise in analysis, or a thought problem.
Most nations or empires have had more than 7 rulers, so hence, the 7 kings in the above a scripture must be referring to a certain period of time surrounding the emergence of the Beast (rev 17) and the son of perdition (2 Thess).
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From the above scripture, the beast was in power (“is”), goes out of power(“is not”), and then comes back into power a second time as the “eighth.”
So who would that refer to?
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The scripture says that one of the kings only continues for a short time, so I would expect him NOT to serve 2 terms. He may possibly serve one or a part of one term.
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This post is restricted to America, as it would be too much to include every nation and empire.
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These are the last 7 presidents of the United States:
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All are still alive except Reagan, who died in 2004. His predecessor, Jimmy Carter, is still alive.
The most politically active former president is Obama, who wants to return to power.
The others are mostly retired, or less active, and not showing interest in ruling again.
So the focus is on either Trump or Obama to become “is not” then have a return to power.
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Who is the “short timer?”
“when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter only served one term. Trump just began his first term, so we do not know about a second term for him yet. The others served 2 terms, so they are not the “short timer.”
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Since the beast is the 8th, he cannot be the 7th, which
continues for a short time, ie he does not follow
himself in power. He succeeds the 7th. This means
the 7th is the short timer.
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If the kings are considered in order of rule, in this set, Carter is the 1st, Reagan 2nd, GHW Bush 3rd, Clinton 4th, GW Bush 5th.
These are “fallen.”
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The 6th is Obama who “was,” “is,” and ‘is not”….
and the 7th, Trump, is the one who is in for a short time.
Why he is in for a short time is not stated.
If Trump serves a complete term, then he would be equal to the 3rd and 1st kings, and he would not be singled out as the only “short timer.”
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So what I see is the first 5 kings as eliminated as the beast, as they are fallen.
And I see as the last king, the short timer, which I believe is Trump, cannot be the beast, as he would not succeed himself.
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This leaves Obama as the one who “was”, then “is not” then returns to power, and he is the 8th, and the Beast, son of perdition.
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While I hope this is not true, America is about to be judged for its sins.
I hope Obama is not the antichrist, and I wish Trump a good long administration.
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The future will reveal itself.
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And remember, like I said, this is just ONE interpretation of the prophecy.
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Alternative views
Revived Selucid Empire as the Beast:
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The beast is from Middle East/ Muslim:
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“Is Not” Will Return As The Beast | Heaven Awaits said this on August 17, 2017 at 11:16 pm |
Anybody saw this before?
martin
I really pray this is true.
Me too, Marianne. Thanks for all you do.
Marianne and Martin, I saw this several months ago, very powerful. I pray it’s true too. I am one of those believers that have always felt Obama could certainly be the ac. I used to say he is at least satin’ s pawn … I ask all of you who pray for Trump to really ramp up our prayers to lift him up to receive all the strength, power and wisdom that God gives. Thanks Marianne….blessings
i agree. amen
bill gate is high rank illuminati
Clement was a false prophet and from his piano was telling them to Sing to Satan
Susanna
I heard a lot of his messages but I do not remember him ever telling people to sing to Satan. Do you have a video where you can prove this?
prophecy about obama returning to power
This wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard about Obama possibly being this antichrist. I don’t really know much about America and its issues, but what I have come across is worrying. When Trump came into power, I was relieved, not for myself because I know where I stand with Father, but for those who are still lost, including my family. I was relieved because with Obama out of the picture, there is still time for more souls to be saved because the time is so short now. But now that you’ve put out this theory, the wheels in my brain are in overdrive. Obama fits the charisma that the antichrist will surely have, as well as the following of countless people. Even now, he is still celebrated whilst Trump seems to be hated with a hatred that I cannot understand nor do I believe the haters understand where all their hatred is coming from. The media is portraying him as an incompetent president and the rest of the world seems to be buying into the media hype. There are obviously people at work behind the scenes who are skillfully controlling the media and ultimately the minds of many people. If Trump’s term were to be shortened, then I believe that it would be achieved by creating a media frenzy with fabricated stories where people would rally up together and stand as one to get him out of office- I certainly hope that no assassination attempts will be made on his life- it seems that America has a history of removing presidents who seek to change things (Lincoln, Kennedy).
I agree. these are perilous times, both for america, and the world
as I said I know something is wrong I see it know it and fill it cant explain but believe this is so it is in the news in my family and all over the world news
The seven kings are seven world king(doms). The woman (church) rides the beast to form the kingdom. The government of The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13 turns its power over to the first beast in verse 1 which has now become The Vatican. It has long been proven even in the 1800’s that this Two Horned Beast (Buffalo?) is the U.S. Government. The president of this country may be called the Anti Christ which believers term AntiMessiah. The European rulers will also join this beast or The Vatican in enforcing, “The Mark of the Beast” which is CHRISTIANITY!
President Donald J. Trump is not a Lincoln or JFK who were good patriotic leaders who were killed because they WERE. Trump has yet to prove that he makes righteous decisions. Because of the time frame he seems to me to be the evil ruler in Revelation 13:18.
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Notradamus : Mabus => ma b us => US B Ma => US Barack Hussain Obama => how this equal to 666 (Not Maths? wisdom ?)
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Revelation:
18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth. = ? ( went to moon in 1969, controller of UN, IMF,… : USA)
9 This calls for a mind with wisdom. 666=?
5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great
the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. (=Homo sexuality & abortion legalize and created wars in Iraq and ISIS ?)
8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.
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We saw the beast (=? Obama up to 2016), now is not (=?2017 August where is he now) , and yet will come. (=? 2017,2018,….Still the pope Francis is not = Peter the Romans)
Daniel 12 The End Times
12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.
Marianne & others,
Rev 8 The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life ? = Is that means ( ? We will astonish when we see the beast)
Daniel 12:1 But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. ( ? )
What will be happened to Trump ? How Obama comes again?
If he comes again, then can he implement technology said in Revelation 13:16 ? I think, this is already tested and success.
What is the Social Security Number or Identification number of Obama ? How it is given (Calculation method /mechanism in USA) ?
sunimal
obama does not have a legitimate social security number.
he has a fraudulent one..042-68-4425. stolen from a deceased man in Connecticut.
http://www.wnd.com/2011/03/275861/
If trump leaves, it will be God’s decision, not satan’s
I not sure of anything but if the world new this number wasn’t right then why didn’t thay look at it further to see who was right or wrong it seems to me this world is blind to the truth except the believers of christ
kathy, presidents are put in this government no matter what! B.O. was probably born in Kenya. Voting does not matter in the U.S. and hasn’t for a very long time. Blind? Sadly, Christians seem to be the MOST BLIND because they support wicked President Donald J. Trump. Even Christian preachers are using their programs to praise him and the life of the monster George HW Bush (who may not have died at all). Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? There is more true info on my Facebook page.
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Try to match 666 and find AC thru your wisdom.
http://www.usrecordsearch.com/ssn.htm
https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssn/geocard.html
As written by me BEFORE, read Revelation 13:18 Greek Diaglott Free on The Web. In Greek the #666 translates to a name. The three Greek letters represent Christos Zeus, Zeus the Savior, with a CROSS, X as in Xmas! This pagan name has morphed into the name “Jesus Christ” the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican).
CHRISTIANITY IS PAGAN AND ALWAYS WAS!
“Come out of HER My people!” ~ Yahshua the Messiah in Revelation 18:4
Total Eclipse in America, August 21, 2017. Forty more days to Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement, September 30, 2017 Beginning of 120th (final) Jubilee year and final year of the 6000. Be ready!
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1 Timothy 1:20
12~5~2018 Third Day of Hanukkah in these LOST DAYS!
Still, Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
And Stephen, do YOU still Have The Mark of the Beast”?
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There doesn’t yet seem to be enough given yet in prophecy to discern the Second Beast and the one that was and is not and yet will come. First Beast yes. Second Beast not yet. Little horn not yet. One who was and is not and will be, not yet. Not without further revelation (maybr some exists out there) or events moving forward such as sun turning dark (no not an eclipse!), rise of Israel, Temple in Jerusalem, two witnesses killed by first Beast then resurrected by God and ascended from Jerusalem – perhaps it will become to clear in such times (probably after our lifetimes but perhaps within a century or so). This seems deliberate on God’s part. Now it seems it is still sealed. But I think we can contrast the one was and is not and will be with God who was and is and will be: It implies the imposter will almost usurp God and be an imposter of God even – just not having God’s complete continuity. That puts it on a par with an imposter Messiah very hard to tell apart from the real Messiah, like Islam too foretells. Not sure any president fulfills that! Too unpopular.
very true
Two Horned Beast = U.S. Government
Little Horn – The Papacy
False Messiah’s Name = Jesus Christ
True Messiah’s Name = Yahshua the Son of Yahweh
HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
Just an idea: they say 666 might be a corrupted typo for 616 because the earlier papyrus version has 616 or 6•6 – well if God who is and was and is to come has quality was=7 and is=7 and will be=7 then maybe this imposter ruler might have quality was=6 and is=1 (or 0) and will be=6. In which case maybe it is a angel such as a titan (one of the sons of God or ‘watchers’) who was and is now confined to Tartarus and will be released and then overthrown by Christ and posing as a worldly ruler. Maybe.
Why speculate? The answer is in the Greek translation and has been since the first century. Revelation 13:18 Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web:
The #666 (three letters, numbers, symbols) translate into Christos Zeus , Zeus the Savior,containing a CROSS, X as in Xmas. This pagan name has been morphed into the name “Jesus Christ”, the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican). I understood this in the early 1970’s.
CHRISTIANITY IS PAGAN AND ALWAYS WAS!
“Come out of HER My people!” Yahshua the Messiah in Revelation 18:4
Neville Johnson: Obama Will Seek Controlling Position in the United Nations,
https://z3news.com/w/neville-johnson-obama-seek-controlling-position-united-nations/
life changing message and sweet spirit
also check 00:52:00 minutes
this one makes no sense
they choose arbitrary start dates right out of the air, and come to a future date
you are right, sorry , i agree with you. if you could delete them. thanks
Marianne,
You are correct about the mandatory start dates but you are guilty of the same thing right here.
Your premise here is that Trump is the 7th so Obama will be the 8th etc. But the bible was written 2000 years ago. Can you support your theory back when Roosevelt or Lincoln was president? And what about before the U.S. came to be?
Many people think the kings were those at the time John wrote it, but that would mean the prophecy should be long fulfilled by now.
Joseph Smith also believed Christ would return in his day. So Americans today are looking to fulfil it from what they know – the U.S. and the present. Wishful thinking at best.
But assuming that any US president could serve three terms ever again is grasping at straws. Everyone has their pet interpretations but what we should all as ourselves when we consider a theory is, “Does this scenario make perfect sense? Is it not just possible, but probable as well? Can it be done without divine intervention?” After all, if the prophecy can only be done if God was to intervene in human affairs and become a puppet master and take away our free will, then He hasn’t really predicted anything, has He?
And today, if you look at all the different interpretations out there, most of them have elements that are illogical or downright impossible. Things such as a single man (Antichrist) taking over the entire world. Putting chips in every human being on earth. Creating one single world religion that everyone agrees on. And many more.
So any theory that requires a US president to serve 3 terms should not be debated as to how that might happen, but rejected off hand as not valid and then move on to some other theory.
james
as stated in the post, this is just a mental exercise……”what if?”
the way our country is divided, and full of sin, america’s future looks dismal, with illegals and jihadists flooding our country, and racism taking over again, and democrats screaming to assassinate trump.
there could be an end to america as we know it and a new system set up, where the rules are different….maybe the globalists will take over finally……..if there is no longer a constitution, then there are no term limits to follow, and no rule of law….
the next leader after trump may not be a “president”
What are the feet of the bear? Nations below Russia?
What is the lion? Israel?
What is the body of a leopard? Africa or some other nation or nations?
Maybe Harold Camping was right when he saw Obama wearing leopard underwear while riding on a motorcycle! Lol.
you are funny!
I don’t know why all of you guys are stuck in 1980s thinking
America! The president of the USA?
Really ?
Rome ? Done was divided into 4 parts.
Asia Minor is north of Israel. In100 places the Bible sAys thT the antichrist will come from north of Israel and want to invade Israel and cut off heads
America?
Come on people!
Its Iran or near Iran or the Medes !
Read Isaiah 13 and 31
Daniel 11:29-45
The king of the north. Is the antichrist. And that cannot be the USA!!!
Mmm
alan
this is a mental exercise
“mental” being the key word here
🙂
IS AMERICA IN THE BIBLE??
So many Pharisee “heresy hunters” want to say America is “Babylon” and we should be exterminated in the name of the “God of revenge,” but I think God has called the USA as a chosen nation, despite our sins.
I just found a really interesting scripture that may in fact point towards America; when you put all the pieces together.
First of all, of you really read the Bible, “Babylon” is Iraq and possibly Saudi Arabia. IT IS NOT AMERICA! Second of all, here is my latest find that may prove America is in the Bible, in TWO PLACES!
EZEKIEL 17: THE EAGLE NATION
Ezekiel 17:1-4 seems to speak about an eagle coming to the Holy Land area. This eagle then takes a “young twig” from the “highest branch.” What does this mean, exactly? Well, Isaiah constantly refers to returning Jesus as the “branch,” and so we could conjecture that Jesus is what Ezekiel meant here.
Ezekiel says that this “branch” is carried by an eagle to a “land of trade, a city of merchants.” One could conjecture that the eagle here might be the USA, as that is the national symbol of America. America is also a land of trade and of merchants.
This eagle clips off a part of this branch (Jesus) and carries it to the land of traders: the USA. This eagle carrying the branch may also be referring to the Pilgrims, who had JESUS’ (the Branch) RELIGION as their motive in starting the country of America; a “land of trade.” Christians did in fact started the USA, after all. In a fascinating tie in, an interesting scripture is found in Revelation 12:14:
But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for (the last 3 ½ years) from the presence of the serpent. In the light of the current realities, this makes complete sense. If Israel was being surrounded by Islamic armies, then the USA, (the eagle) would most likely airlift as many Israelis as possible!
Now back to Ezekiel 17. The end of Ezekiel 17 refers to the Lord Jesus, the clipped off “branch” coming back and standing on the Mount of Olives!
Here we see how God will plant this branch (Jesus) of a high cedar on a high mountain. This must be the return of Jesus! And yes, it’s the same branch as the first part of Ezekiel 17 mentioned as being clipped off and sent to a land of trade.
Could it be that one day in the future, this eagle nation will airlift Israel to safety? Yes, God thinks ahead!
We have seen how Ezekiel 7-11 has the day of the Lord story:
During a false peace, and on the day, Israel is invaded.
Israel flees to the mountains.
Israel is desolated. The temple is defiled. (42 months later)
The 144,000 Jews are marked on their foreheads.
Jesus comes back and stands on a mountain east of Jerusalem.
Ezekiel 12-17 repeats that same story:
False prophets say peace.
Israel will be laid waste when “every vision” will be fulfilled.
Jerusalem will be invaded by beasts and famine. (After the tribulation.)
A branch is clipped and carried by an eagle to a land of trade.
A twig from the highest branch is placed on a high mountain.
Isn’t this astounding all new information?
EZEKIEL 18: TURN OR BURN, ISRAEL
Here in Ezekiel 18, God essentially says: “Israel, repent and turn from your sins or die!” God also speaks about how the “sins of the father can visit the sons” in this chapter. What could this mean? It may refer to the fact that at the end of time, God will still be upset with the generation of Israelis who crucified his only son!! I love and support Israel. This is just a conjecture.
EZEKIEL 19: ISRAELS LEADERS WILL BE CAGED
Ezekiel 19:7 speaks of a future prince of Israel, a “young lion” who is roaring and who will perhaps sign this peace treaty which will, in the end, bring about Israel’s desolation.
He knew their desolate places,
And laid waste their cities;
In several places in Ezekiel, I have found where the leaders of Israel will try to escape, only to be caught by the evil people, and thus brought before them.
9 They put him in a cage with chains,
And brought him to the king of Babylon;
In Ezekiel 16 Babylons symbol is an eagle.
snow
bible says
daniel
persia (Iran) – feet of bear
babylon (Iraq) – eagle
Africa – body leopard
revelation
rome – mouth of iron
Leopard = Greece/Macedonia, not Africa
I stand corrected but remember this is an empire, not a single country….
I hate to say it but there is a possibility mentally of soundly connecting USA with the false Messiah concept. If you look at what Messiah means (for example see Wikipedia entry) it is a special title given to a great ruler who uses his position and power to greatly save Israel. God gave the title to Cyrus. A ‘messiah’ could identify themselves with Cyrus who was of course the king of kings of Persia and Media (now Iran and the Kurdistan area). They might say that like Cyrus they have used their power to create the State of Israel and continually save and champion it. Now that is a claim similar to a claim to Messiahship. The fact that Persia was famous for going into the background only to re-emerge later as Parthia is along the lines of it being called the bear in prophecy. The bear hibernates in winter and is powerless yet before that and after it revives it is full of deadly power. Persia is set to re-emerge again as part of the lion-bear-leopard first Beast empire. USA might say it is in the image of this Persia in that it created the State of Israel and champions it using its superpower status and therefore representing the Messiahly role Persia under Cyrus once had, given by God. Yet if it is false in any of this it might be a false Messiah. It should stay true and be faithful and not be a false champion of Israel but a true one. And stay out of future world takeover under the first Beast. If when the first Beast rises there is a boast of Messiahship on Americas part and claim to be a copy of Cyrus then it might be becoming the second Beast or laying its foundations.
I think each country can imitate the Beast with its own wrongdoing and evil leadership….but then there is the prophesied Beast who will gain power because of the support of the other nations
I would google
Will the antichrist rule the whole world?
alan
he will have some following, but with many, he will not be popular
A very interesting perspective and thought provoking. One thing that comes to mind, because we live in America I think we have a tendency to think the Bible is talking about us. Probably in many other civilized Countries where the Christian faith abides, people think the same way. Tracking their own Leaders and trying to figure out who might be the anti- Christ coming out of their Country.
I am leaving a link to my blog regarding dreams I had during a 40 day fast. I am sharing what I was shown, although I do not discount your theory either. Blessings, KB
https://kaseyjburt.blogspot.com/2017/08/called-to-40-day-fast.html
kasey
thank you for sharing that. rather than this theory of an american leader, it may be very well a muslim leader that arises….as muslims are Israel’s greatest enemy.
this post was a mental exercise. I have other posts that explore the muslim / iran / middle east antichrist figure as well.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-fouth-beast-of-daniel-and-revelation-the-antichrist/
Click to access 4th-beast-web-4-mt.pdf
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/leopard-4th-beast/
Look I’m not that naive. Please that’s condescending
Not in fact say if anything ametica is the whore of Babylon
Ezekiel 17 speaks of an eagle nation of traders who may have been started by the branch Jesus
Rev 12 speaks of an eagle flying Israel to safety fir the last 3 1/2 years of time
Who but America would Airlift Israel to safety ?
These are new discoveries and they are very logical
The end of ez 17 speaks of zech 14:4. Where Jesus the branch will be planted on a high mountain
There is a pattern
Ez 7-11
On the day Israel is invaded by the wirst of the Gentiles
The temple is deviled
An idol of jealousy in the temple
Abominaton
The glory comes and stands on the mount of olives
Ez 12-17 repeats this with the branch being planted on a high mountain so it is and tone related
Gee whiz guys anyone interested in a new find. Or are all of set on the antichrist Viking fir Rome and the USA. Bring the whore ?
I think there are so many layers of prophecy, that multiple interpretations are possible….we have to wait and see how it all turns out
So being that at the time of this prophecy ROME was in charge and being that it was Rome that set up/made up the Muslim religion, and being the papacy has far reaching tentacles through the world injecting itself in many governments then how is it a country non existing when Revelation was written be spoken of at that time? When Hebrews said “the world” back then they largely meant the known world back then, basically the Middle East and the Orient, Africa and Europe.
Part of Rome was Asia Minor
All other prophecy says tHat the antichrist comes ftom north of Israel
The facts are that the antichrist will cut off heads and want to invade Israel
Would the papacy do this? No
Would Muslim nations do this?
Yes
Ha! Please review history! The Papacy (Vatican) DID chop off heads during the Dark Ages (ruled by Rome) killing the true Bible believers in those days. Remember Joan of Arc? Personally, I do not believe that the true believers in Yahweh and His Son Yahshua will lose their heads or lives because they are SEALED and have the victory over the beast (Vatican) and his image (idol) “Jesus Christ”, the REAL antiMessiah! Revelation 14 They are saved because they come OUT of Christianity!
HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
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four yall way 99the texas version of your name)
so your point about the Catholic church cutting off heads is a good one…. but in TODAYS WORLD, who does this? You see, i mades several points, the main one being that a northern army will invade israel at the end of time led by THE ASSYRIAN (isaiah 10)
assyria is north of israel. Daniel 11 :29-45 speaks of the Antichrist —-THE KING OF THE NORTH invading the sunni nations.
——– then he acts like he is going back home and in a surprise — he attacks Israel!
Joel 2:20 confirms: when jesus comes back he will drive the NORTHERN ARMY OUT of Israel.
Isaiah 14:25: Jesus kicks the assyrian Antichrist out
In all sincerity, what part of NORTH DO NOT UNDERSTAND?
Now we know that Islam cuts off heads, and Islam wants to invade ISrael right? in todays world? ANd Islam iwould want a peace treaty with israel………..and islam is north of ISrael>?
AND GET THIS when Jesus returns, he comes from EDOM and MUSLIM NATIONS WHEN HE COMES BACK!!!!!
Perhaps you could not ignore this and answer me… thank you how the vatican is north of israel…?
11~14~6000 (out of 6000) in this LAST YEAR!
Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM.
Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
Alan, forgive me, I just read your reply. WHO controls Islam?
The one(s) who started this phony religion! The Vatican (In Rome!). This is WHY the Vatican is the beast of Revelation 13:1. With pagan Islam, pagan Christianity, and other pagan religions, it is literally controlling the world!
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Years ago everyone thought Hitler was the antichrist and they were wrong. If we were suppose to know who is the antichrist people would be trying to do something about it by now. No one knows who is the antichrist or when Christ will return. It says in the Bible that the angels from heaven don’t know when Christ will return little known us. The only sign that the time is near for Christ return is the moon to be turning red and there will be wars plus people will be getting more evil which says in the Bible. Some of the Bible prediction is starting to become true such as people are becoming godless and more evil by killing innocent people.
As far as the antichrist is concerned it will be someone who we least expect.
lynnette
I think the ac may or not be who we least expect. it also could be someone we suspect, but we cannot prove it, until the time comes. as the days grow more evil, more ac personalities will arise to support the rise of the ac, so they will seem as candidates
HEy all i have done what no one ever has–I looked all the OLD TES texts about the day of the LOr and the end of time…..
THEY ALL SAY THE SAME MESSAGE:
a northern islamic army will invade israel and desolate her— how many of you think that the antichrist will be a peaceful powerful leader who walks through the streets of jerusalem and SUDDENLY HE TURNS INTO THE MAN OF SIN?
THAT HE IS A JEW WHO THE JEWS FALL FOR?
THAT ISRAEL WILL BE PROTECTED FROM HARM FOR ALL TIME?
the real bible predicts that God will be mad at his own people and thus he will send the Antichrist to destroy israel… to make it desolate, to lay it waste ……
Isaiah 7 and 10 say this:
is 7:
In the same day the Lord will shave with a hired razor,
With those from beyond the River, with the king of Assyria,
is 10:
5 “Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger
And the staff in whose hand is My indignation.
6 I will send him against an ungodly nation,
And against the people of My wrath
I will give him charge,
To seize the spoil, to take the prey,
12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Lord has performed all His work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, that He will say, “I will punish the fruit of the arrogant heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his haughty looks.”
13 For he says:
“By the strength of my hand I have done it,
jesus comes back in is 10–making it end time related:
17 So the Light of Israel will be for a fire,
And his Holy One for a flame;
It will burn and devour
His thorns and his briers in one day.
and then the remnant if israel comes back:
20 And it shall come to pass in that day
That the remnant of Israel,
And such as have escaped of the house of Jacob,
Will never again depend on him who defeated them,
But will depend on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
21 The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob,
then god speaks of the Assyrian.. NOT THE POPE!
24 Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts: “O My people, who dwell in Zion, do not be afraid of the Assyrian. He shall strike you with a rod and lift up his staff against you, in the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while and the indignation will cease, as will My anger in their destruction.” 26 And the Lord of hosts will stir up a scourge for him like the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb; as His rod was on the sea, so will He lift it up in the manner of Egypt.
27 It shall come to pass in that day
That his burden will be taken away from your shoulder,
SO GOD BROUGHT the ASSYRIAN ANTICHRIST AGAINST HIS PEOPLE THEN HE WILL REMOVE HIS YOKE
ISAIAH !4 25 confirms;
That I will break the Assyrian in My land,
And on My mountains tread him underfoot.
Then his yoke shall be removed from them,
And his burden removed from their shoulders.
http://mnewlife.org/pages/2017Teshuvah_Prayer_Guide___Booklet_overview
2017 TESHUVAH PRAYER GUIDE & SUPPLEMENTAL BOOKLET
http://www.truthministryaz.org/blog-prepared-in-the-wilderness
https://livestream.com/accounts/1969900/events/7653949
this video is about Edom, tribe of Esau , tribe of jacob,
king of David, messiah . esau ‘s read skin, and king david’s ruddy skin ?
many new ideas, especially when he talk about messiah – Jesus.
as l know that Jesus is sinless. he has other perspective ??
if Anyone could discern what he said are true or not ?
thanks
God Bless
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Hi Marianne, or anyone,
i have question regarding to the the seven church of book revelation and how Jesus address himself to the 7 church , Jesus’ Introduction Of Himself to 7 churches, i felt there is insight of these introduction of Jesus.
there are some relationship between the introduction of Jesus’s and the 7 churches. i do not know , any thoughts on this ? see a chart which was copy / paste from other’s charts.
thanks
I’m still trying to keep an open mind, but my mind keeps referring back to this webpage I found many years ago from the Pacific Institute.
http://www.pacinst.com/nslaw/chapter3/antichrist.html
this is just an exercise in thinking through all interpretations.
so the papacy is an option as well.
my choice is Islam
many countries will have evil rulers who seem to either BE the antichrist, or FORESHADOW him
Click to access Our_Finest_Hour_Vol2_4.pdf
Neville Johnson and other prophets ‘s prophetic words
Vol 2 Issue 4 on watch at the door
HI ALL SOME PROPHETIC WORDS I HAD ABOUT KOREA PUTIN TRUMP
ALSO A NEW TECHING ON HWERE TEH ANTIHCRIST WILL COME FROM THE VATICAN? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaYECLcqNUI
alan
what you said is amazing, very different from what I hear now.
so I should stop collecting survival food?
I agree about cahn.
I hope the best for america, but do see that its sins require some form of punishment, unless there is repentance.
**note you put the same link in twice
Thx m. Here is my teaching where will the antichrist come from
All you guys perhaps can give me some feedback
Thx
alan
what I meant by “what I hear now” refers to news on the internet or from others who publish. I was not referring to a private revelation of my own. I am not a prophet, just a bible writer and watch person.
Why do you start 8 kings from Jimmy Carter ? What is the reason ? for eg: Cannot we start it from Bill Clinton or George W. Bush. Then you have to wait for your next presidents.
that is true. this is just an exercise in thinking…so that was a good thought
Hi Marianne. I think it would be beneficial if we could do an exercise in analysis on what proceeds the Antichrist; The falling away first in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and the strong delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12. I would love to hear some thoughts on this subject seeing how it proceeds and leads to this Antichrist. The scriptures are as follows:
Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition… 2 Thessalonians 2:3
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12
What could the falling away be? The Greek word for “falling away” is translated apostasy which translates to a leaving or departure from a previous standing.
What are your thoughts on this?
Is it happening today?
How is it leading to the Antichrist?
Furthermore, what do you think the strong delusion God is sending or has sent mean? A lie that that those who are falling away will believe.
By doing an exercise in analysis on these scriptures, we might have a fuller understanding of who the Antichrist could be.
Do you already have a post in reference to this subject or should we discuss it here?
Islam is apostasy. Christians the world over are converting to Islam —- which denies that god has a son or that he died fir our sins. Or that he rose from the dead
The AC IS THE king of the north
Those lands are all Islamic now
Rev says the AC BEHEADS
Only Islam beheads
Rev 13 —-the 666 in Greek looks like in Arabic no god but Allah
The Bible predicts the AC will
Invade Israel
Islam wants to invade Israel
Islam is the apostasy
priscilla
I agree that apostasy , the falling away, has already started.
the strong delusion could be anything and I have wondered about it myself, with no conclusions.
however, apostate people are delusional, and would believe anything
the bible says that in the end times good will be seen as evil, and evil will be seen as good.
so, in general, something evil will be seen as good, and weak people will believe it, and condemn themselves
Marianne,
We are defiantly experiencing the good as being evil and the evil as being good.
Just heard on the news at lunch, another set of media complaints about our policeman being the evil ones and the people they are protecting us from as being the poor good guys.
The world has defiantly filliped upside down and the media is no help.
I agree I just saw a disturbing video this morning where the transgenders and others of that sort were influencing small children to be part of their really lewd displays and activities. and somehow no one sees this as child endangerment. they think it is good not evil . this is truly evil to destroy the children this way
The strong delusion could have to do with aliens
Jeremiah 4 says fallen angel watchers will
March with the antichrist
Ah, Islam, this could be the lie those who are “falling away” believe in. It could also become the one world religion, if Islam obtains their goal of Islamic world dominance.
The Islamist lie to the population and say they are a religion of peace, yet their “fruit” say otherwise. This lie is one among many, which the Islamic world uses, as a form of jihadist combat to gain their objective(s).
The world and so called “Christians” on the other hand, believe this lie and congratulate themselves on their tolerance. They condemn anyone else who will not embrace this prideful stance.
As current history is showing us, the world is entering a time of hurt due to this behavior:
• The Canadian parliament has passed a landmark anti-Islamophobia
and religious discrimination motion that calls on politicians to condemn
anti-Islamic behavior and rhetoric.
• Sharia Law in Europe
• USA’s take on this: Trump’s Muslim Ban Impoverishes Us All
This is just a few of the many comments on the web.
Now the question we need to ask ourselves is how tolerant would Jesus be with this or any “religion” other than His Truth, the Bible and His Gospel?
John 14:6 – Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
His example is what we must embrace as Christians. Any other response would lead us away from the truth.
I agree with what all of you have said.
Possible, but bible says even the elect could be deceived. Is the elect deceived by islam? Who are the elect?
Good observation,
Let’s touch on each of these:
In both Matthew 24:24 and Mark 13:22 it does say that false Christ’s and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive (in Greek: mislead, lead astray, cause to wander) even the elect (in Greek: chosen, elect, select), if that where possible.
Let’s look at the word “deceive”. The Greek expands on this word deceive. It includes mislead, lead astray and cause to wander.
The word elect, in general, is a person, nation and/or group of people chosen out of the world by God himself. Examples: He chose Abraham, the nation of Israel and those who call on the name of the Lord.
Can the elect be misled or deceived by Islam? Yes, I believe in many ways, and for short periods of time, especially if we do not stay in the scriptures. There are also indirect ways of deception that we, the elect, can be misled or deceived.
One way is through tolerance of false religions including Islam. This type of miss direction opens the way of disaster for us. It might be too late before we realize what we have done, for this religion is so deceptive. Remember Paul warned us of savage wolves such as these in Acts 20:29-31 with many tears.
Thank goodness God ends this scripture in Matthew and Mark with “If that where possible.” I thank Jesus, He will not let His elect stray too far. (John 6:39, 10:28-30)
As far as Islam and the elect. I think also something to keep in mind is that there may be an alien UFO
CONNECTION That could fool the elect
The Bible could drastically change under the mandela effect. And verify Mohammad’s claims
the elect could only be deceived if they are not in the word, ignorant or asleep. but then why would they be the elect if they are this careless?
I disagree with the conclusion. There’s a channel on youtube called “Angel White” that has done plenty of superb videos that are much more plausible in explaining why, if anything, it’d be Donald Trump, who’s the antichrist.
There’s much he doesn’t cover in his videos, but the comment section to each video does. In my opinion, Trump fits so many of the attributes, it’s crazy. That includes history repeating itself through the self-identifying religious making the poor decision of preferring a counterfeit Christ over the real Christ and all that comes with Him (in the past, the pharisees chose Barabbas, and today’s modern day pharisees, and in particular, Israel, has chosen Trump as their claimed “spirit of King Cyrus”). But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. One could rattle off of their fingers the growing number of antichrist traits he fits.
Yes, I am. Only learning but I fill I know the defiance from right and wrong there is something so wrong with our a country so much hated against trump and so much love for Obama I don’t know how to explain it but something is happening I don’t fill its anything good
kathy
I agree
It says in the bible that no one knows who will be the antichrist because he will fool everyone in the world.
People are getting more wicked and that is a sign that Christ is not far off returning. If any ruler does not do the right thing in any country they are not liked by the people and this applies to any ruler in the world.
Years ago they said that Hitler was the antichrist because of the evil he was doing and made out the communist was the key to a happy country. They were wrong about him.
People in general have to change their ways of doing evil and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ.
Well, then, Lynnette, people will be turning to the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican)! The Bible does NOT say that no one will know WHO the antiMessiah is. In fact, many of us KNOW and have for many years! Revelation 13:18 says that the WISE with UNDERSTANDING will KNOW! Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
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Yes they will know in the long run who is the beast but he will fool people at first in the world
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Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah
Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
Lynette, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Obama, and even Trump are ALL antiMessiahs because they served/serve The Vatican. And Hitler was a fascist NOT a communist. However, Fascism AND Communism came from The Vatican. They both HAVE CROSSES: The fascists (Nazis) have the swastika a crooked cross. The communists have a CROSS made with a hammer and a sickle. And, of course, the Christians have the Christian CROSS, also the cross in the Greek #666, Revelation 13:18 X as in Xmas sometimes called the Papal cross. (Yahweh HATES the Christmas pagan holiday! )THAT is one reason WHY The Vatican has become the beast of Revelation 13:1. Anyone (ANYONE!) still believing that President Donald J. Trump is a patriotic leader doing good for America NEEDS TO WAKE UP NOW! He has designated today as a memorial day for former President George H.W. Bush, THE CHIEF SCOUNDREL of the 20th Century. (He may or may not be in that coffin. If not, he sure must have had a real kick watching his own funeral from his luxury underground bunker possibly with “lovely” wife Barbara.) WHY would he FAKE his own funeral? Possibly to escape the peoples’ wrath when the economy finally collapses or some other government wrought disaster. Yes, everyone needs to WAKE UP and get THE FACTS! Like me,they need to choose NOT to be deceived !
Yahshua the Messiah said, “The TRUTH shall make you FREE!”
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Marianne,
After reading this blog, I am convinced that we are in Babylon right now! We cannot confuse the Babylon of Iraq/Iran of yester-year, as Babylon is THE nations of the world (UNITED Nations).
Daniel 2:28. “But there is a God in heaven that revealeth secrets, and maketh known to the king Nebuchadnezzar what shall be in the LATTER DAYS. Thy dream, and the visions of thy head upon thy bed, are these;”
Nebuchadnezzar’s BABYLON was the HEAD, but the rest of that Humanoid figure, represented the FOLLOWING world powers which would (Dan.2:35) “…became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that NO PLACE was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.”
As the kingdoms of earth are still evident and NOT CARRIED AWAY, the IMAGE of Babylon is STILL alive and operating in the FEET of Iron and Clay.
Without going into Endless discussions, let us assume that the CURRENT scheme of things is what can be referred to as “BABYLON”, and the “UNITED Nations” is the WORLD’S representative political BODY of that Image (Called Babylon).
Dan.2:43. “And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall NOT CLEAVE ONE TO ANOTHER, even as iron is not mixed with clay.”
IF the U.N. IS the FEET of Babylon, depicted in Revelation, as the BEAST of “TEN Horns”, as also shown as the 4th BEAST of Dan.7:7 “…and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and IT HAD TEN HORNS. – We need to EQUATE the “BEAST” in Rev.13:1. “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a BEAST rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and TEN HORNS, and upon his horns TEN crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
NOTICE – the BEAST (U.N.) has TEN Horns (Defensive instruments) as well as SEVEN Heads.
The POWER of the BEAST (U.N.) is from the “G7” Heads. The TEN Horns (Defense in form of SANCTIONS) by the WORLD TRADE Org. – which was a follow on from the G.A.T.T. (1947) which was the means of getting the European Union UNITED. This transition was in 1994.
NOW comes my answer to the “BEAST that WAS”. – This is RUSSIA, which made the “G7”, into the “G8”. The following gives this fact: –
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/08/26/trump-putin-obama-g7-1475439
We have a WHORE (Vatican) who RIDES (Directs) the BEAST (U.N.). [Rev.17:3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having SEVEN heads and TEN horns.
LOCATION of Vatican = Rev.17:9. “And here [is] the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman SITTETH.” = ROME
KINGS need a KINGDOM? – Vatican became a SOVEREIGN State in 1929 (Lateran Treaty).
Since 1929 there were 5 POPES (Kings of Vatican), who DIED – Benedict AND Francis are STILL alive. Francis is – “he must continue a short space”
Rev.17:10. “And there are seven kings: FIVE are fallen, and one IS, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
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Olaf, if we are in Christianity, we are in a sense in Babylon. The government of the U.S. is The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13 that turns its power over to The Vatican. (It did a very long time ago!) Mystery Babylon, the MOTHER of harlots has been identified as the Roman Catholic Church which is the mother of all the Christian denominations. These are ALL Roman Catholic in belief and practice. NONE of them are the original Protestants who were not Christian at all and hated the pagan cross. When you read and hear the names Puritan and Pilgrim please know that these believers were NOT Christians either! Christianity is pagan and always was! The true Bible believers have the original Hebraic faith given by Yahshua the Messiah to His disciples. What does He think of Christianity?
“Come out of HER My people!” Revelation 18:4
The Vatican became the beast of Revelation 13:1. Islam was also a false religion started by The Vatican in the 6th Century A.D. The pagan cross has been used by The Vatican down through the centuries. In Greek it is part of the #666 in Revelation 13:18 (X as in Xmas) and is part of the pagan name, Jesus Christ, which is the name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican). The Nazis’ swastika was a “crooked cross”. The Communists’ hammer and sickle was also a cross. (The pirates skull and cross bones was also a cross. They robbed for The Vatican.)
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Jayna,
I think we are confusing the RIDER with the HORSE. The Vatican is the RIDER, who is STEERING the (U.N.) Horse/Beast.
The Horse/Beast cannot be BOTH the Rider or the RIDDEN.
Throughout the Bible a “WOMAN” is the representation of a RELIGIOUS group of People/Organizations.
Rev.17:3. “So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a WOMAN sit UPON a SCARLET colored beast, full of names of blasphemy, having SEVEN heads and TEN horns.”
It is the VATICAN which has PURPLE and SCARLET Robes.
Rev.17:4. “And the woman was arrayed in Purple and Scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:” [Pedophilia, making Christians go to the LIONS for sport, etc.?]
The U.N. is a Communist instigated Organization. You can Google this fact, and the SCARLET color is what COMMUNISM loves using – Look at China, or Khmer Rouge (Cambodia), …Russia has also White and Scarlet Flag.
The TWO-Horned BEAST comes from the LAND, Not the SEA (U.N.) Sea of People. The WATER on EARTH is a RIVER (BANK) not Sea SHORE.
Rev.13:1. “And I stood upon the SAND (Shore) of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns,…” – [U.N.]
11. “And I beheld another beast coming up out of the EARTH; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.” – IMF & World BANK
The FIRST Beast is the 9/11 TWIN TOWERS of the TRADE Center which is NUMBER Zero on the Bar Code (First # – 0-9) This is Depicted/Described
in Revelation Chapter 18 which INSIDE just ONE HOUR had disintegrated.
Rev.18:8. “Therefore shall her plagues come in ONE DAY, [9/11] death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with FIRE: for strong [is] the Lord God who judgeth her.
17. For IN ONE HOUR so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as TRADE by sea, stood afar off,” … TRADE Center?
This DEADLY Wound is HEALED – There is NOW a NEW Trade Center!
The “666” – MARK has to do with WORSHIPING the IMAGE that was WOUNDED to DEATH (9/11 Trade Center)
I agree with that what you quote – the call to COME OUT of BABYLON, but do not believe that ISLAM is the BEAST – it is the FALSE Prophet of Rev.16:13. like you stated, – That False Prophet was schooled by the Jesuits, of which FRANCIS is the FIRST Pope ever coming from that “School”
By the way, I believe in the NAZARENE faith – Matt.2:23.” And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.”
Acts 24:5. “For we have found this man [a] pestilent [fellow], and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes:”
Fourth Day of Succoth Yahweh’s (and ours) Feast of Tabernacles
Olaf, someone is confused but it is NOT me. “Christianity” is the rider (not just the Roman Catholic Church!) and the Vatican is the beast of Revelation 13:1. Islam, Nazism, and Communism also came from the Vatican. One head of the seven was wounded. Napoleon’s Army took the Pope’s power and land away in 1798. There wasn’t a pope until this deadly wound was healed in 1929 when the Pope’s power and land were restored helping to crash the U.S. economy in 1929. Revelation 17:4 perfectly describes the Roman Catholic Hierarchy. The priests live in total luxury while sexually abusing their young parishioners. A number of 19th Century theologians taught that the U.S. was The Two Horned Beast in Revelation 13. However, it is the U.S. Government that has the power to turn over to the Vatican and it did decades ago.
Revelation 18 is the judgement of Christianity, the harlot religion whose founder is the Vatican and its religious seat St. Peter’s Cathedral. By the way Peter was never in Rome like Paul (Saul). A day of judgement can mean a year, possibly the final year often called “The Day of Jacob’s Trouble”. The Ten Horns (U.N.? European Union?) have power with the beast (which one? Vatican or U.S. Government?) for one hour. They will enforce “The Mark of the Beast” (U.S. then rest of world) Ultimately they HATE the woman which is made known in Revelation 17:18: “And the woman which you see is that great city , which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” This “woman” sits on seven mountains, verse 9. IT’S ROME! Apparently, too late, these kings realize they have been totally deceived and lost through Christianity! This is WHY Yahshua said to come out of HER in Revelation 18:4 That’s why at least 144,000 also come out of HER in Revelation 14.
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Thank you Jayna,
I know all that. I perceive you believe in what I have gone through, so, I have been there, and done that.
EGW is the instigator and basis of all your Doctrines, and it IS in your best interest to read Rev.2:23.
Some FACTS: – That CHURCH is not COMPLETELY rejected by Yahshua, as it is that “Jezebel” – NOT the one in Elijah’s time (Who no longer lives), but a relatively MODERN version, whom this judgement is pronounced.
By the way, this MODERN one has ALSO gone and rests in peace, but the AFTERMATH of her teaching lives on in the written word, which she claims to be inspired by Yahuah. You will note that only 50% of her Children made it into Adulthood! (Rev.2:23) and all through her life she was affected by her affliction and Bed – ridden (Rev.2:22)
Know this:- THIATYRA is now RENAMED “AK-HISAR” which is located in a MUSLIM country, and you can “Google” on the Internet to find that there are ZERO Bible-believers in that location.
AK-HISAR = “WHITE Castle” – (White Estate?)
Daniel was told on more than ONE occasion to SEAL the BOOK of Daniel, as it COULDN’T be UNDERSTOOD till the END of Time – i.e. This GENERATION shall not pass, till ALL these things be fulfilled. (Mark 13:30) Do not tell me that ONE GENERATION = 175 YEARS + (Since 1844)
Deut.18::22. “When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that [is] the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, [but] the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt NOT be afraid of him”. (1844?)
I am approaching 70 years of age, and had a very rough ride “spiritually” in my search for the REAL truth. Many coincidences have come my way in my quest to KNOW WHY there are so many TIME – related passages on the END Time, and we who are FOOLISH will miss out on the “WEDDING Breakfast” – But for our UNBELIEF, we shall pay with our lives – like the 10 Spies and ALL men over 20yrs that died BEFORE they went to the Promised Land. (Numbers 26:65)
Jayna, Even the DEVIL KNOWS – (Rev.12:12 – A short time) till 2023? The following will give you an idea where we stand, as I found that (independently) – my calculations do not use ANY other proof – NOT EVEN stretching DAYS into years – as SOME would have you believe, I came to 2023 as the CUT-OFF point in history of Mankind. This is what I came across 2 months ago –
http://olivebiodiesel.com/Revelations_End_Times_Prophecy_Prophecies.html
Or
https://chanceoccurance.wordpress.com/2017/08/01/is-mankinds-destiny-foretold/
We are IN the Dan.12:1 “Time of trouble”, since 3rd of October 2016 (Hebrew Calendar 5777), and if we don’t recognize the “FEARFUL MASTER”, as being the BEAST, we are deceived by all the propaganda that surrounds the U.N. and their Blasphemous rhetoric, just as their sign outside the Head Quarters in New York. (Isa.2:4. “And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.”)
That will be AFTER the Return of Yahshua, …but in actual fact, the FOLLOWING will happen!!!
Joel 3:10. “Beat your plowshares into swords, and your pruninghooks into spears: let the weak say, I [am] strong”.
This will happen after March 26th 2020, when Moses and Elijah will also appear. (Malachi.4:4,5).
The General Assembly will VOTE on 26th February 2020 as prophesied in Rev.17:13.
Matt.7:21. “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven”.
Yes, you are RIGHT in observing the feast days, as that IS what we are admonished to do!, …but neglecting to find out what the ITINERARY of Yashua’s return for the WEDDING in KNOWING the GOOD OIL to shine – we (As Foolish) will hear the following: –
Matt.25:13. “Watch therefore, for YE [foolish] KNOW neither the day NOR the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.”
Luke 12:35. “Let your loins be girded about, and [your] LIGHTS burning;
36. And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will RETURN from the WEDDING; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.”
Lastly, – do not misquote the JUDGEMENT of the FIRST BEAST [of the W.T.O.] with that of the BEAST with 10 Horns [U.N.]. Rev.18 is about 9/11 which has the DEADLY Wound. (Rev.13:12)
If you read it in context, it is to do with BUY and SELL [TRADE] as in “TRADE” Center. there will be a NUMBER issued [Personal ID] to BUY and SELL. {Bank account #}
The 2-Horned BEAST (IMF & World Bank) will make that happen, (Rev.13:11,12) with WORLD -Wide Jurisdiction of the W.T.O. (World Trade Org.)
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Olaf, if you say you know all about what I wrote, WHY have you made some very wrong prophetic assumptions? The Bible states that not one verse is of “private interpretation” but you have listed several. You are the only one that I have heard from that believes them. What I have written to you is believed by a number of people during the past few centuries. And, I do not get all of my beliefs from Ellen G. White who stayed in Christianity when she should have left! Her outlook on prophecy seems quite limited. For example, she said that she saw NOTHING future for the land of Israel. SO WRONG! She said that all the light had been revealed to her. NOT QUITE! I l did leave the Seventh Day Adventists in 1972 before I was even keeping the TRUE NAMES.
Yahshua has completely rejected Christianity. That’s WHY He says to come out of HER or suffer the plagues. Revelation 18:4
Olaf, do you still call yourself a Christian?
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Jayna,
I said that I KNOW your background of thinking by what you WROTE.
My PROPHETIC assumptions as you say, are NOT of PRIVATE interpretations. I can back up my statements from Yahuah’s Word. If I have a different view, it is because the INTERPRETERS of the King James Version used the incorrect English meaning in the sentence. Just to give ONE Example, Daniel gives a vision of the END Time. [The TEMPLE was DESTROYED ~ 70AD]. Yahuah caused the Veil to be torn, – indicating that there was a NEW way – through Yahshua since the cross. NOW comes the INTERPRETATION of Dan.8:14. “And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed”.
If you look at Strong’s Concordance, you find that the 2,300 DAYS are actually 2,300 (Evenings and Mornings) – this is stated in verse 26.
The part of “SANCTUARY be CLEANSED” should read “SAINT be JUSTIFIED” – There is NO SANCTUARY on the TEMPLE Mount! for more than 1,940yrs! And the interpreters should have known that CREATION account of DAYS were …ONE day = ONE Evening + ONE Morning.
So we have 1,150 DAYS …in 2,300 Evenings and Mornings.
WHAT do you MAKE of the Following?
Rev.10:10. “And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter.
11. And he said unto me, Thou must PROPHESY AGAIN before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.”
Daniel’s SEALED Scroll is UNSEALED! and the unsealing happens AFTER Yahuah had it sealed till ONLY AFTER the start of the END Generation which had not PASSED AWAY! Rev.5:3. “And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon”.
A Generation in Yahuah’s instructions is 50 years! (Numbers 8:25. “And from the age of FIFTY YEARS they shall cease waiting upon the service [thereof], and shall serve no more:) The Jubilee is ALSO another.
Daniel was SEALED till at least [2019 – 50 = 1969) so ANY private Interpretations put on DANIEL’S End Time Prophecy established BEFORE 1969 (If the END was this year) are FALSE! – Even DANIEL couldn’t understand what he WROTE at the time.
Dan.12:8. “And I heard, but I UNDERSTOOD NOT: then said I, O my Lord, what [shall be] the end of these [things]?
9. And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words [are] closed up and sealed TILL THE TIME of the END.”
Does that answer your question about FOLLOWING Christianity?
The BEAST with 10 Horns of Rev.13:1,2 is the SAME as Dan. 7:7 “…and it [was] diverse from all the beasts that [were] before it; and it had ten horns”.
Notice the Beast of Rev.13:2. “And the beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD, and his feet were as [the feet] of a BEAR, and his mouth as the mouth of a LION: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority”.
After analysis of the 3 BEASTS of DANIEL Chapt. 7 – Lion/Bear/Leopard,
I find that Dan.7:4-6, describe Germany, Russia & UK [With USA], the depiction is post-war, 1945. [United Nations Organization was Born ]
Germany = Stands on 2 FEET like Man. [East and West]
Deutchland is NAME but the NAME that’s GIVEN in the HEART of it is MAN – GerMANy = English name given to it. AlleMANge = French NAME given to “Deutchland”. The LUFTWAFFE of Deutchland [Wings of an Eagle] were REMOVED [Plucked].
The UK Leopard = 4 HEADS of Government (English/Irish/Scotch/Welsh), and in WW2 there was the US Air-force (2 Wings of a Fowl) + RAF {UK} wings of a Fowl. [British Royal Coat of Arms = 3 Leopard-like LIONS]
DOMINION = British COMMONWEALTH of Nations.
Russia – Bear becomes USSR = The beast that WAS and is no longer. It had 3 RIBS [Yugoslavia Serb/Croatian/Bosnia] in the mouth of the BEAR.
It rose to ONE SIDE [East European Bloc]
The 3 RIBS became 3 HORNS fighting in Balkans war of 1990.
Dan.7:”…8. I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, BEFORE whom there were THREE of the first horns [which were 3 RIBS in the BEAR’S Teeth] plucked up by the roots:…”
I shall leave it at that. I have a more comprehensive interpretation, which you can see if you read it, that it is not a figment of my fertile imagination.
10~19~2019 Sixth Day of Succoth The TRUE Thanksgiving Days According to Yahweh’s Biblical Calendar. Really, the ONLY one that COUNTS!
Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”
Olaf, sadly, you do not have any idea what I believe! If you DO you would NOT write what you have about me. Much of what you state is NOT according to the Bible. But it seems that you are going to believe it anyway. NOT WISE! By the way, Yahuah is NOT the Almighty’s Name. My spelling correction says “Yahuwah”. So it seems some believe in THAT name but not yours. However, for many years, the consensus of opinion about the Almighty’s Name (for Jews, Christians, Bible Scholars, and etc.) is “Yahweh”. This is how it was pronounced in the early 1970’s and how it is now and FOREVER!
No. The 2300 days are actually 2300 days BECAUSE that’s what made up a day (morning and evening). This was extensively studied by Bible scholars and eschatologists in the 19th Century. Do YOU really think that they misinterpreted THAT? I don’t!
If you knew SDA doctrine, you would KNOW that they (also I) believe that the sanctuary to be cleansed is the ONE in HEAVEN. The one on Earth was only a COPY of IT. Before Yahshua returns it must be determined WHO will be saved (and NOT!) and the rewards (and judgements) that He brings with Him. Revelation 22:12 The sins of the righteous will then be placed on The Evil One (the scape goat) and he is chained to the earth for 1000 years, the millennium. Revelation 20:1-3 NOW THAT’S A VERY LONG TIME! YES! There will NOT be a Rapture! Ellen G. White may have been wrong about October 22, 1844 being the start of “The Investigative Judgement” in Heaven or she may be right. If so, it is taking A VERY LONG TIME! (So far 175 years!) By the way she passed away in 2015 at the age of 85. She always expected Him to return soon. (So do I!) Daniel 7:9-10 describes this “Investigative Judgement” in Heaven. Verse 8 is about The Vatican, the Papacy, founder of Christianity and Islam!
Some believe Revelation 10:10 is Danial 11.
Another false assumption of yours is that Numbers 8:25 states a generation is 50 years. NOT! The Levites were to serve for 25 years (from the age of 25 until 50). A generation is not 25 years and may not be 50 years. Some say 70 years. However, Israel (Yahweh’s Time Clock and Sign Post!) was reborn in 1948. 70 years ended in 2018 and sadly, Yahshua did not return. We need to study MORE about what is a “generation” on Yahweh’s Calendar. However, with absolute certainty I can write this. Yahshua the Messiah will return on a Yom Kippur, the end of the 120th Jubilee year, the end of the 6000 years (unless He shortens the time for the sake of the elect.)
I have heard some of what you write about the world powers in Daniel 7. However, the original interpretation makes MORE sense! The Ten Horns are the European powers that came out of fallen Rome (the fourth beast). Why? Verse 25 tells of the Vatican, the Papacy, that has tried to change the Sabbath to Sunday. That’s NOT present or future! It’s the PAST beginning with Emperor Constantine the Terrible in the Third Century A.D.! It will culminate with the government of the U.S. (The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13) being the first one to enforce “The Mark of the Beast”, Revelation 13:18. (believed by SDA’S and me.) The Greek definition of the #666? Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web, states its meaning as the pagan name “Jesus Christ” with a CROSS (X as in Xmas!) ALWAYS PAGAN!
I do not believe that President Trump will enforce this because he is for Israel. The final time of trouble may be only 3 1/2 years or 1 year.
“Come out of HER My people!” Yahshua the Messiah in Revelation 18:4
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
Jayna,
I will not comment on your accusation that I am not Biblical in my Prophetic views. Show me where I have NOT backed up my statements with TEXTS all throughout.
What is your Biblical EVIDENCE that there is NOT a period in which the 5 wise VIRGINS will have a WEDDING before the Resurrection?
The 5 WISE go to the BRIDEGROOM’S Father’s HOUSE.
John 14:3. And if I go and PREPARE a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that WHERE I AM, [there] ye may be also.
The ELECT = Bride – NOT the SEED. Bride is in LOVE with the Groom, they are the CHOSEN {Elect}. The SEED (Children) are NOT IN love with their Father. The SEED are LEFT to be CHASTISED for their unbelief, by going through the 2,300 Evenings and Mornings.
Rev.12:17. And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Sorry, but I copied from my Bible (KJV), which uses “Jesus Christ”
The RAPTURE, or WHATEVER one may label it.
Rev.12:14. “And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.” [3.5yrs?]
6. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place PREPARED of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred [and] threescore days.” [3.5yrs? or 1,260 years?]
In HEAVEN – Brethren = HUMAN … or ANGEL?
9. And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our BRETHREN is cast down, which accused THEM before our God day and night.
Who are these? DWELLING in Heaven – INHABITERS of the EARTH?
12. “Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and YE THAT DWELL in them. Woe to the INHABITERS of the EARTH and of the SEA! for the devil is come down unto YOU, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a SHORT time.” [3.5yrs?]
Did the “BEAST” SEE who WENT to DWELL in Heaven?
Rev.13:6. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and THEM that DWELL in HEAVEN.”
After the WEDDING that was Prepared in HEAVEN, the DOUBTERS of a Wedding Feast will NOT TASTE of it.
Luke 14:24. “For I say unto you, That NONE OF THOSE MEN which were bidden shall taste of my supper.” [What SUPPER?]
Matt.26:29. “But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father’s kingdom.”
Luke 12:36. And ye yourselves like unto men that wait for their lord, when he will RETURN FROM the WEDDING; that when he cometh and knocketh, they may open unto him immediately.
Sorry, Jayna, for my naming of our FATHER and His SON in the wrong way, which you state as incorrect
About Ellen G White … YOU wrote: –
“By the way she passed away in 2015 at the age of 85. She always expected Him to return soon.”
You mean to tell me that she was born in 1830? {a typo?} Ha Ha
I won’t go into all the other SDA erroneous teachings, as I have Plenty of evidence in that Ellen Paraphrased many BOOKS.
You probably have never looked into “the WHITE Lie” by Walter REA or “Prophetess of Health” by Ronald L Numbers …or “the Shaking of Adventism” by Geoffrey J Paxton?
Matt.22:36. Master, which [is] the great commandment in the law?
SDA say it is the FOURTH.
Exodus 20:15. Thou shalt not steal.
Plagiarism and putting ones NAME as AUTHOR – Then COPYRIGHTING is STEALING!
Adam and Eve STOLE of the FORBIDDEN fruit! See what came of THAT!
No need to give EXCUSES that Matthew STOLE of Mark, as they wrote of THEIR witnessing of the SAME event!
Matt.5:19. Whosoever therefore shall break ONE of these LEAST commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
How the Bible tells us of the 2023 deadline: –
This is how we must read the following DUAL Advent Time-Line.
Dan.9:24. “Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25. Know therefore and understand, [that] from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince [shall be] seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.”
The “WEEKS” are actually [lots of] “SEVENS” – therefore we need not call them WEEKS, nor YEARS. – It is USUALLY understood as “YEARS”, so NO substituting of DAYS for YEARS!
As a DUAL Prophecy, the above is like – Luke 4:17-19 and Isa.61:1,2. – One applied to the FIRST as well as the SECOND Advent.
“… from the going forth of the commandment…” – applies to ARTAXERXES – a Gentile = 457BC. which pointed to the FIRST Advent to fulfil the Gen.3:16 Promise to the Serpent [Satan].
IT was LATER Commanded by Sultan Suleiman in 1533 AD. – 2 years BEFORE the rebuilding actually commenced, in 1535 AD.
There are the FOLLOWING Time stretches stated in Daniel Chapter 9.
70x Sevened = 490yrs – Total
62x Sevened = 434yrs
7x Sevened = 49yrs
ONE x Sevened = 7yrs
We HAVE a PROBLEM!
” …he shall confirm the covenant WITH MANY for one week.”
“…in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,…”
The above VERSES refer to – Yahusha [Messiah the Prince] for the FIRST 490yrs to the FIRST Advent [Cause the SACRIFICE and Oblation to CEASE]
It ALSO applies to the SECOND 490yrs – [Obama – makes Covenant for 7 years – (2009-2016)] –
“… and the PEOPLE of the prince [Obama’s USA] that shall come shall destroy the CITY and the SANCTUARY…”
The above “CITY and SANCTUARY”, should be “NEW Jerusalem & SAINT.”
WHY?
Rev.3:12. “HIM that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon HIM the name of my God, and the name of the CITY of my God, [which is] NEW Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and [I will write upon him] my new name.”
Rev.13:7. “And it was given unto him to make WAR with the SAINTS, and to OVERCOME them: and POWER was given him over ALL kindreds, and tongues, and nations.”
TOTAL of 490yrs = 1533AD – 2023AD. [1533 + 490 = 2023?]
62x Sevened = 434yrs = 1967. [1533AD + 434yrs = 1967AD?] = 7th June 1967 in 6-Day WAR.
Luke 21:24. “And THEY [Jews] shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and JERUSALEM shall be TRODDEN down of the Gentiles, until the TIMES of the Gentiles [OCCUPATION] be FULFILLED.”
AFTER 1967, we have 7x SEVENED = 49yrs {TEMPLE Cycle} = 1967AD + 49 = 2016AD.
Rev.11:1. “And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the TEMPLE of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
2. But the COURT which is WITHOUT the TEMPLE leave out, and measure it not; for it is GIVEN unto the GENTILES [62x SEVENED – (1533 – 1967)]:”
Rev.11:1 “…temple of God [49yrs till 2016], and the ALTAR, and them that WORSHIP THEREIN.”
The 1967 – 2016 is “under the ALTAR” Period of WORSHIPPING in the “MOED” of 49yrs.
Rev.6:9. “And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw UNDER the ALTAR the souls of them that were SLAIN for the word of God, and for the TESTIMONY which they held:
10. And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?”
The SECOND – ONE SEVENED = 2016 – 2023.
Dan.12:1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
(42 Months PLUS 1260 Days. [+8 days])
Rev.11:2″… and the holy city [OVERCOMMERS] shall they TREAD under foot forty [and] two months.
3. And I will give [power] unto my two witnesses [Moses & Elijah], and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred [and] threescore DAYS, clothed in sackcloth.”
New YEAR [Hebrew] – 3rd October 2016.
42 Months comes to 26th March 2020. PLUS 1,260 DAYS comes to 9th September 2023.
Moses and Elijah will be KILLED on 10th September 2023 and lie in JERUSALEM? 4 days.
Rev.11:8. “And their dead bodies [shall lie] in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom [LGBTQ] and Egypt [Truncated Pyramid – All seeing Eye], where ALSO our Lord was crucified. [Golgotha – Skull & Cross-bones?]
9. And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies THREE DAYS and a HALF, and shall NOT suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.”
After 9th September 2023, THEN the 8th DAY [Circumcision? – Resurrection] – TRUMP of New Year 16th September 2023. End of 42 Months U.N. One World Govt.
[30 days BEFORE it RULES, the VOTE is passed till the DAILY (*Activity ENDS – after Advent)]
Dan.12:11. “And from the time [that] the daily [*sacrifice] shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, [there shall be] a thousand two hundred and ninety days.” [30 + 1,260]
Rev.13:5. “And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to CONTINUE forty [and] two months”.
1 Cor.15:50. “Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood [Circumcision] cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.
51. Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall NOT ALL sleep, but we shall ALL be changed,
52. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the LAST TRUMP: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.” – [Become Spirit Beings?]
olaf
i see the first fulfillment, but the second is not that clear. while you have dates given that are now past, i did not see any events during that 7 year period (2016-2023). you may have a point about 2023, which has impressed me as well.
olaf
ps
nothing happened in the middle of the obama week…no time of jacob’s trouble. no broken covenant
also, if the President Trump administration is the final week, then 3 1/2 years of trouble would start about the middle of 2020 (2017, 2018, 2019, then 1/2 of 2020)
wait and see
I think the broken covenant will occur after President Trump leaves office , maybe early, he should stay in until 2024. but i think something will happen and he leaves a year early
10~19~2019 Still Sabbath on Yahweh’s Green Earth Psalm 24:1
Olaf, It seems to me that you are REALLY MIXING UP the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation! And, Obama has NOTHING now to do with final events. He was a ruler of The Two Horned Beast while he lasted and in my opinion not a righteous one!
The only one that took away “the daily sacrifice” in Yahweh’s Temple replacing it with Zeus (Jesus) worship was Antiochus Epiphanes on December 25 in 168 B.C. This was an early celebration of Christianity and Xmas. YAHWEH HATES BOTH! The days mentioned were exactly fulfilled by the righteous Maccabees and celebrated with Hanukkah. I believe that there will NOT be another temple built or sacrifices taken away. THESE ARE DONE!
The recent Yom Kippur began another year in Yahweh’s Calendar. Sadly, if President Trump (and Mike Pence) are removed as rulers we can have “The Mark of the Beast” quickly enforced by who comes in and the final time of trouble (1 year or 3 1/2). Many events like the war of Ezekiel 38-39 can also ensue at this time. The plagues will fall on those still holding on to Christianity and its CROSS. The economy will have collapsed and famine will be everywhere. Those who refuse “The Mark” and its Christianity will most likely go to FEMA camps. (Think the atrocities done in Nazi Europe!) The righteous sealed WILL SURVIVE without a rapture! HalleluYah!
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
Jayna,
you write: – The only one that took away “the daily sacrifice” in Yahweh’s Temple replacing it with Zeus (Jesus) worship was Antiochus Epiphanes on December 25 in 168 B.C
Firstly, the word “Sacrifice” is NOT in the ORIGINAL text of Daniel 8:11, et al. Look up your concordance, as the MEANING of DAILY is :- tâmı̂yd …continuance …regular (daily) sacrifice …continual (employment) …ever (-more)
SECONDLY – Sacrifice for our SINS is NO LONGER required after Calvary!
You say it is HISTORY (168BC)
This is what our LORD has stated … do yo UNDERSTAND?
Mark 13:14. But when ye SHALL see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth UNDERSTAND,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:
Don’t know if you UNDERSTAND the ENGLISH tense?
SAW = PAST
SHALL see = FUTURE
Jayna, no need to think I am OBLIVIOUS to the SDA Belief system – I have had several years in their Schools and College system.
I have found MOST of their FUTURE Prophecy is FLAWED with SUBSTITUTING a DAY for a YEAR – Wherever it SUITED their belief.
Substituting = TAKING AWAY & ADDING something ELSE!
Rev.22:18. For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall ADD unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19. And if any man shall TAKE AWAY from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the BOOK of LIFE, and out of the HOLY CITY, and [from] the things which are written in this book.
What is in that CITY [New Jerusalem].? A Temple to be CLEANSED?
Rev.21:22. And I saw NO TEMPLE therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb ARE the temple of it.
SIN is NOT contaminating HEAVEN or NEW Jerusalem – The SAINTS are pillars OF the Temple AFTER the Second Advent. (Not 1844 AD)
Rev.3:12. “Him that overcometh will I make a pillar IN THE TEMPLE of my God, and he shall go no more out:…”
Jayna just one more: – (the 69th “Week” of the 70 Weeks Prophecy)
Dan.12:1. And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
The Precedence is throughout the Bible of a SEVEN year period of a Time of Trouble: –
Joseph’s 7 Years of Plenty & 7 Years of Famine.
Nebuchadnezzar in the field as an Ox. (Not 2,520 yrs!) [Days for years]
Jacob working 7 more years for his BELOVED Rachel.
Olaf, you are now using the pagan names of G-d and L-d. So WHO do you worship? You should be consistent at least. The “daily” (morning and evening) WERE the sacrifices! What ELSE could they be?
Mark 13:14 WAS future for what would happen in 70 A.D. and IT DID! When the New Jerusalem comes down to earth there is no more need of a temple because there is no SIN anymore. However, before Yahshua returns there is to be an accounting. The SDA’s call it “The Investigative Judgement” . It’s all based on the original sanctuary service. Yahshua the Messiah is the Lamb of Yahweh that takes away the sins of the righteous who choose HIM for redemption. How can any of this happen WITHOUT Yahweh’s Temple in Heaven?
Olaf, sadly, YOU seem very confused! Seek Yahweh and He will give you the spirit of prophecy.
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
Thanks Marianne, for your understanding of something I did not CLARIFY.
The CONFUSING of the TWO – PRINCES has been effective in SEALING the words of this PROPHECY.
Yahshua = Messiah the Prince.
Obama = The Prince of the DEVIL
Dan.9:26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: [BY THE LAW OF THE LAND, WE WILL BE CONTRAVENING THE LAW IF WE WORSHIP ON THE FEAST DAYS] and the people of the prince that [MAKES THESE LAWS] shall come [and] shall destroy the city [NEW JERUSALEM] and the sanctuary [SAINT]; and the end thereof [shall be] with a flood, [REV.12:15,16] and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week [OBAMA]: and in the midst of the week he [YAHSHUA] shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease [AS THE PASSOVER SACRIFICE], and for the overspreading of abominations he [OBAMA] shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation [2ND ADVENT], and that determined [Rev.6:11] shall be poured upon the desolate.”
I hope you understand the [CAPITALIZING] I added – which are not in the Bible text. – it shows that the chopping and changing of the CHRIST and the ANTICHRIST in the text, made us think that what Yahshua’s SACRIFICE – which is RELEVANT for the 27AD part of the DUAL vision belongs to the FIRST Advent crucifixion.
The conclusion to be drawn, is that OBAMA has a CHANGING of the LAWS that PROHIBIT worshiping Yahuah – which TAKES 7 years to accomplish till he is removed from office in 2016.
That 7 years (2009 – 2016) has NO relevance to the Sacrifice of the MIDDLE of the (Ordinary week) that the Messiah Prince had accomplished.
It appears that OBAMA may even become Secretary General of the UN World Government, and will over-ride the USA President’s LAWS, so Trump does not necessarily conclude his second term.
But as I stated earlier, the MID-WEEK [Messiah the Prince] Sacrifice has been accomplished and has nothing to do with the COVENANT that OBAMA made in his speech in 2009.
Yahshua was CHOSEN on Palm SUNDAY (Nissan 10)
Exod.12:3. Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth [day] of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of [their] fathers, a lamb for an house:
Nissan 11 = Monday
Nissan 12 = Tuesday
Nissan 13 = Wednesday
Nissan 14 = Thursday = Passover = Mid Week.
3 Days = Thursday, Friday, Saturday
3 Nights = Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday night.
He ROSE EARLY on the FIRST day = Starts on SABBATH Evening!
John 20:1. The first [day] of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.
10~21~2019 Eighth Day of Succoth Called “The Last Great Day.”
So little time and you spend it being confused about Bible prophecy. It’s like you are in “The Twilight Zone” of prophetic confusion and can’t find your way out! The “New Jerusalem” is NOT destroyed. It comes down from Heaven with the saints AFTER the Millennium. The resurrected wicked (like the sands of the sea) deceived by the Evil One who has been chained to the earth for the 1,000 years come up against the city. Fire from Heaven destroys them. Revelation 20:7-9 They become ashes under the feet of the righteous. Malachi 4:3 This belief is NOT new. It is taught by the Seventh Day Adventists now and was by them and others in the nineteenth century.
Yahshua died for us on a Wednesday otherwise He would not have been in the grave three days and three nights like Jonah was in the belly of the great fish. Thursday afternoon does NOT cut it! He arose on the Sabbath Day NOT Sunday (another Christian LIE!) When the ladies went to His tomb the fist day was dawning but He had already RISEN! Matthew 28:1. The Holy Name Bible reads, “After the Sabbath was past and as the day after the Sabbath began to dawn, came Miriam Magdalene, and the other Miriam to see the sepulcher.”
I see NOTHING prophetic in the future for Obama except “The Lake of Fire” for being a homosexual. I read that even his “two daughters” were “borrowed”. He is NOT in the line of succession for being President of the U.S. I also do not see President Trump enforcing “The Mark of the Beast”. However, it IS coming!
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
Marianne,
Could you show where in Daniel 9, that MENTIONS a BREAKING of any COVENANT?
olaf
Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate, Even until the consummation, which is determined, Is poured out on the desolate.”
daniel 9:27
notice in the middle of the week the covenant “changes” or is broken, regarding sacrifices, which apparently were going on to begin with.
Thank you Marianne,
If you read what I wrote above QUOTING Dan.9:26 & 27, please take NOTE of my [CAPITALIZED] explanation to the FACT that it is a DUAL prophecy (Like Isa.61 read by the Lord) in Luke 4:18 & 19.
Take NOTE – The PORTION which He OMITTED was for the SECOND – ADVENT part of THIS – DUAL Prophecy. He CLOSES the reading after “the Acceptable YEAR of the LORD.”
Isa.61:2. To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, AND THE DAY OF VENGEANCE OF OUR GOD; TO COMFORT ALL THAT MOURN.
The DAY OF VENGEANCE is Judgement and destruction of the Wicked …AND the RESURRECTION of the DEAD – the CAUSE of the MOURNING.
Back to Daniel, – The RANSOM, …then the REDEEMING.
That PART of the …”But in the middle of the week He [at Calvary] shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.” – ends with a (,) Comma, denoting that second part of Prince OBAMA comes next
…”and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation…” – (2nd Advent)
10~20~2019 Seventh Day of Succoth Happy Thanksgiving!
Olaf, you are now even MORE confused and confusing! Yahshua most likely died (for us) in a Jubilee year. If (IF!) we know THAT year, we can just add 2000 years to it and know the scheduled year of His return, unless He cuts the time short. If the final time of trouble is 3 1/2 years (time. times, and a half) it will begin at Passover time. If seven years or one year, Yom Kippur. I do not see Obama as having anything to do with enforcing “The Mark of the Beast” as he is no longer in office. He would probably not do it anyway because he never claimed to be a Christian and did not act like one. President Trump defies the Vatican by helping Israel. A number of times he has stated America will remain free! I do not now believe that he will enforce “The Mark”, Christianity.
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
jayna
what is important is that we belong to Yahshua. obama plans to return. the media and democrats are working on this now with their false accusations and MSM propaganda.
10~21~2019 Eighth Day of Succoth called “The Last Great Day”.
Marianne, Obama plans to return? HOW can he? (He CAN’T according to the rules set up.) “THEY” are working on HOW to get rid of President Trump because he will win by a “LANDSLIDE” in 2020! Marianne, why are you going up this preposterous alley? Maybe it’s Dim propaganda. lol
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
jayna
everything obama did was illegal and criminal. everything the democrats are doing is illegal and criminal.. why would you think they would obey the law in the future? trump will win 2020 but they will still work to impeach or assassinate him, and replace him with lawless obama or hillary
olaf
agreed. Obama is a problem. a big one. I hate to think he is associated with the USA, but that is our curse, having abandoned the Lord in this country. However, many saints are still here and fighting for what is right
Marianne,
It doesn’t say “the Prince”, but “the PEOPLE of the Prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
IF Obama became boss of UN, then it is the UN that “Destroys the (City) New Jerusalem – Rev.21:2. “And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.”)
and the (Sanctuary) SAINT – there is no Sanctuary/Temple yet.
I tend to believe that the BEAST with 10 Horns [WTO] will, with the 666 issuing of an ID to TRADE (Buy & Sell) only those who worship the Ground Zero IDOL of first Beast (0)||123456||123456 that had the deadly WOUND. Rev.13:12,15.
Well I believe we in Australia and in Europe, will not be out of danger either. Better to go with the 5 WISE Virgins to the wedding.
AND
Luke 14:23.” And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and COMPEL [them] to come in, that my house may be filled.”
10~21~2019 Happy Last Great Day of Feast of Tabernacles!
Olaf, MORE prophetic “mumbo jumbo”? That city (Jerusalem) and sanctuary (Yahweh’s Temple) WERE destroyed in 70 A.D. Profits from THAT horrible event were used to build the Coliseum in Rome. I cringe when ever I see it! No, it won’t happen again and it does not mean some other event. The beast of Revelation 13:1 is NOT the WTO! lol
Revelation 13:12,15 was the taking away of the land and the power of the Papacy by Napoleon’s army in 1798. It’s power was restored in 1929. The #666 in Greek is the name and number of its image (idol) which today translates into the pagan name “Jesus Christ” with a CROSS, X as in Xmas! Yes, it’s “The Mark of the Beast”. The U.S. Government (The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13) will be the first one to enforce it closely followed by England or the EU and the rest of the world.
Want to be with THE FIVE WISE VIRGINS? Then you had better have the OIL NOW in your lamp! What is this OIL? No, it is not “The Holy Spirit”, another Christian LIE! King Solomon KNEW!
“THY NAME is as oil poured forth, therefore do the VIRGINS love Thee.”
Song of Solomon 1:3 (Emphasis mine.)
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
10~26~2019 Sabbath on Yahweh’s Green Earth Psalm 24:1
“Let us be glad and rejoice in it!” HalleluYah!
Olaf, I received your e-mail and looked over the info you sent. Thank you for sharing with me what you believe to be prophetic knowledge. I do not believe that it is correct. I’ve tried to share with you what I believe is the Bible truth. I cannot make you believe it. You have to choose to do that your self. I know for a fact that it is much more easy to believe a lie.
I understand that the beast of Revelation 13:1 has become The Vatican. It’s image (idol) is “Jesus Christ” and its Christianity. The False Prophet is Islam another of The Vatican’s religions. (That’s WHY it is the beast!) The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13 is the U.S. Government. It turns its power over to the first beast (Vatican) and enforces the worship of its image (idol) Jesus Christ and its CROSS (the meaning in Greek of the #666 in Revelation 13:18, Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web. In this # is a CROSS, X as in Xmas!)
CHRISTIANITY IS PAGAN AND ALWAYS WAS!
“Come out of HER My people!” Yahshua the Messiah in Heaven in Revelation 18:4
President Donald J. Trump may or may not be the President who enforces “The Mark of the Beast”. I hope NOT because he is for Israel. If Killary had been put in, we possibly would have had it by now. Yesterday at EliYah Cummings’ funeral she stated that the name EliYah means, “God is my Lord.” No! This name means, “My Mighty One (Elohim) is Yah!
The plagues fall on those who choose “The Mark of the Beast”. NO RAPTURE! The saints of Revelation 14 are SAVED, SEALED, and PROTECTED in the Names of the Father and Son (Yahweh and Yahshua). They have VICTORY over the beast (VATICAN) and his idol (Jesus Christ)! HalleluYah!
ETERNAL SURVIVAL BLESSINGS FOR YAHWEH’S SAINTS!
Hi,
But wasn’t the context of the verse in reference to Apostle John’s time period?
IS NOT, Yet IS – – Russia — INTO PERDITION? Rev.17:11
Now that we are in 2021, we should be closer to understanding what the “IS NOT” actually IS!
I believe it refers to the “7 HEADS” of the Beast that comes out of the SEA of Humanity. (Rev.13:1)
This Beast from the NATIONS is a UNITED Nation Made up from the Lion Bear and Leopard (Germany Big mouth English BODY and RUSSIAN feet)
The 4 BEASTS of Daniel 7 are the Lion/Bear /Leopard & 4th Beast that FOLLOWED which has a DIFFERENT make up, in that it had 10 HORNS.
Rev.13:1. And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
2. And the beast which I saw was like unto a LEOPARD, and his feet were as [the feet] of a BEAR, and his mouth as the mouth of a LION: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
You can GOOGLE and find that the BEAR (Russia) Joined the G7 to become the G8. ~17 years Later, Obama lobbied the G8 to EJECT Russia on grounds of Annexing CRIMEA!
From That time, The EIGHTH became the G7 again.
G7 is the GROUP of 7 Major financial countries that gave the United Nations their POWER. Even though Russia (The G 8th) was no longer officially in the GROUP, it REALLY IS a force to be reckoned with!
Rev.17:3. So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
The WHORE is the VATICAN that STEERS the U.N. with WTO 10 Horns, and the G7. (Heads)
The WHORE is the VATICAN, located on 7 Mountains (Rome).
1929 the VATICAN became a SOVEREIGN STATE – So the Leaders are SOVEREIGNS! (Sovereignty = Kingship?) So Popes are KINGS of Vatican.
After Vatican became SOVEREIGN, every POPE becomes KING.
Since 1929, the 5th “King was John Paul II. – HE “Fell” – DIED
Benedict (The 6th King) did not Fall (Die), but stood down for the 7th king.
This is HIGHLY unusual! — TWO KINGS on the Throne???
Rev.17:10. And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, [and] the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must CONTINUE a SHORT Space.
CONTINUE? – HOW LONG does FRANCIS CONTINUE? – 42 Months???
As Power in the UN Sea of People, the BOSS will … Blaspheme (Forgive?)
Rev.13:5. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to CONTINUE forty [and] two months.
Continue Short Space/42Months???
BEAR = Russia/USSR/Russia – again. >>> G7/G8/G7 again.
Rev.17:8. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go INTO PERDITION: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
11. And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the EIGHTH, and is of the SEVEN, and goeth INTO PERDITION.