“Is Not” Will Return As The Beast



This will be controversial, and could be wrong.

10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition.

Rev 17

There can be multiple levels of interpretation to scripture, as well as dual, or multiple, fulfillments of a prophecy.

In the above scripture, one can see this as a succession of “kings” or rulers of an empire, or a country.

While America may, or may not, be the location of the Beast personality, this is an exercise in analysis, or a thought problem.

Most nations or empires have had more than 7 rulers, so hence, the 7 kings in the above a scripture must be referring to a certain period of time surrounding the emergence of the Beast (rev 17) and the son of perdition (2 Thess).

From the above scripture, the beast was in power (“is”), goes out of power(“is not”), and then comes back into power a second time as the “eighth.”

So who would that refer to?

The scripture says that one of the kings only continues for a short time, so I would expect him NOT to serve 2 terms. He may possibly serve one or a part of one term.

This post is restricted to America, as it would be too much to include every nation and empire.


These are the last 7 presidents of the United States:


All are still alive except Reagan, who died in 2004. His predecessor, Jimmy Carter, is still alive.

The most politically active former president is Obama, who wants to return to power.

The others are mostly retired, or less active, and not showing interest in ruling again.

So the focus is on either Trump or Obama to become “is not” then have a return to power.

Who is the “short timer?”

“when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”

George H.W. Bush and Jimmy Carter only served one term. Trump just began his first term, so we do not know about a second term for him yet. The others served 2 terms, so they are not the “short timer.”

Since the beast is the 8th, he cannot be the 7th, which

continues for a short time, ie he does not follow

himself in power. He succeeds the 7th. This means

the 7th is the short timer.

If the kings are considered in order of rule, in this set, Carter is the 1st, Reagan 2nd, GHW Bush 3rd, Clinton 4th, GW Bush 5th.

These are “fallen.”

The 6th is Obama who “was,” “is,” and ‘is not”….

and the 7th, Trump, is the one who is in for a short time.

Why he is in for a short time is not stated.

If Trump serves a complete term, then he would be equal to the 3rd and 1st kings, and he would not be singled out as the only “short timer.”

So what I see is the first 5 kings as eliminated as the beast, as they are fallen.

And I see as the last king, the short timer, which I believe is Trump, cannot be the beast, as he would not succeed himself.

This leaves Obama as the one who “was”, then “is not” then returns to power, and he is the 8th, and the Beast, son of perdition.

While I hope this is not true, America is about to be judged for its sins.

I hope Obama is not the antichrist, and I wish Trump a good long administration.

The future will reveal itself.

And remember, like I said, this is just ONE interpretation of the prophecy.

Alternative views


Revived Selucid Empire as the Beast:

The Beast is or is not Rome

The beast is from Middle East/ Muslim:

4th Beast


100 Responses to ““Is Not” Will Return As The Beast”

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  2. Anybody saw this before?

  3. prophecy about obama returning to power

  4. This wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard about Obama possibly being this antichrist. I don’t really know much about America and its issues, but what I have come across is worrying. When Trump came into power, I was relieved, not for myself because I know where I stand with Father, but for those who are still lost, including my family. I was relieved because with Obama out of the picture, there is still time for more souls to be saved because the time is so short now. But now that you’ve put out this theory, the wheels in my brain are in overdrive. Obama fits the charisma that the antichrist will surely have, as well as the following of countless people. Even now, he is still celebrated whilst Trump seems to be hated with a hatred that I cannot understand nor do I believe the haters understand where all their hatred is coming from. The media is portraying him as an incompetent president and the rest of the world seems to be buying into the media hype. There are obviously people at work behind the scenes who are skillfully controlling the media and ultimately the minds of many people. If Trump’s term were to be shortened, then I believe that it would be achieved by creating a media frenzy with fabricated stories where people would rally up together and stand as one to get him out of office- I certainly hope that no assassination attempts will be made on his life- it seems that America has a history of removing presidents who seek to change things (Lincoln, Kennedy).

  5. The seven kings are seven world king(doms). The woman (church) rides the beast to form the kingdom. The government of The Two Horned Beast of Revelation 13 turns its power over to the first beast in verse 1 which has now become The Vatican. It has long been proven even in the 1800’s that this Two Horned Beast (Buffalo?) is the U.S. Government. The president of this country may be called the Anti Christ which believers term AntiMessiah. The European rulers will also join this beast or The Vatican in enforcing, “The Mark of the Beast” which is CHRISTIANITY!
    President Donald J. Trump is not a Lincoln or JFK who were good patriotic leaders who were killed because they WERE. Trump has yet to prove that he makes righteous decisions. Because of the time frame he seems to me to be the evil ruler in Revelation 13:18.


  6. Notradamus : Mabus => ma b us => US B Ma => US Barack Hussain Obama => how this equal to 666 (Not Maths? wisdom ?)
    18 The woman you saw is the great city that rules over the kings of the earth. = ? ( went to moon in 1969, controller of UN, IMF,… : USA)
    9 This calls for a mind with wisdom. 666=?
    5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: babylon the great
    the mother of prostitutes and of the abominations of the earth. (=Homo sexuality & abortion legalize and created wars in Iraq and ISIS ?)

    8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and yet will come up out of the Abyss and go to its destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.
    We saw the beast (=? Obama up to 2016), now is not (=?2017 August where is he now) , and yet will come. (=? 2017,2018,….Still the pope Francis is not = Peter the Romans)

    Daniel 12 The End Times
    12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. 2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt.

    Marianne & others,

    Rev 8 The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life ? = Is that means ( ? We will astonish when we see the beast)

    Daniel 12:1 But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. ( ? )

    What will be happened to Trump ? How Obama comes again?
    If he comes again, then can he implement technology said in Revelation 13:16 ? I think, this is already tested and success.

    What is the Social Security Number or Identification number of Obama ? How it is given (Calculation method /mechanism in USA) ?

    • sunimal

      obama does not have a legitimate social security number.

      he has a fraudulent one..042-68-4425. stolen from a deceased man in Connecticut.


      If trump leaves, it will be God’s decision, not satan’s

      • I not sure of anything but if the world new this number wasn’t right then why didn’t thay look at it further to see who was right or wrong it seems to me this world is blind to the truth except the believers of christ

        • kathy, presidents are put in this government no matter what! B.O. was probably born in Kenya. Voting does not matter in the U.S. and hasn’t for a very long time. Blind? Sadly, Christians seem to be the MOST BLIND because they support wicked President Donald J. Trump. Even Christian preachers are using their programs to praise him and the life of the monster George HW Bush (who may not have died at all). Whatever happened to the separation of church and state? There is more true info on my Facebook page.


  7. Try to match 666 and find AC thru your wisdom.


    • As written by me BEFORE, read Revelation 13:18 Greek Diaglott Free on The Web. In Greek the #666 translates to a name. The three Greek letters represent Christos Zeus, Zeus the Savior, with a CROSS, X as in Xmas! This pagan name has morphed into the name “Jesus Christ” the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican).

      “Come out of HER My people!” ~ Yahshua the Messiah in Revelation 18:4

      Total Eclipse in America, August 21, 2017. Forty more days to Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement, September 30, 2017 Beginning of 120th (final) Jubilee year and final year of the 6000. Be ready!


      • 1 Timothy 1:20

        • 12~5~2018 Third Day of Hanukkah in these LOST DAYS!
          Still, Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
          PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1
          HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

          And Stephen, do YOU still Have The Mark of the Beast”?


  8. There doesn’t yet seem to be enough given yet in prophecy to discern the Second Beast and the one that was and is not and yet will come. First Beast yes. Second Beast not yet. Little horn not yet. One who was and is not and will be, not yet. Not without further revelation (maybr some exists out there) or events moving forward such as sun turning dark (no not an eclipse!), rise of Israel, Temple in Jerusalem, two witnesses killed by first Beast then resurrected by God and ascended from Jerusalem – perhaps it will become to clear in such times (probably after our lifetimes but perhaps within a century or so). This seems deliberate on God’s part. Now it seems it is still sealed. But I think we can contrast the one was and is not and will be with God who was and is and will be: It implies the imposter will almost usurp God and be an imposter of God even – just not having God’s complete continuity. That puts it on a par with an imposter Messiah very hard to tell apart from the real Messiah, like Islam too foretells. Not sure any president fulfills that! Too unpopular.

  9. Just an idea: they say 666 might be a corrupted typo for 616 because the earlier papyrus version has 616 or 6•6 – well if God who is and was and is to come has quality was=7 and is=7 and will be=7 then maybe this imposter ruler might have quality was=6 and is=1 (or 0) and will be=6. In which case maybe it is a angel such as a titan (one of the sons of God or ‘watchers’) who was and is now confined to Tartarus and will be released and then overthrown by Christ and posing as a worldly ruler. Maybe.

    • Why speculate? The answer is in the Greek translation and has been since the first century. Revelation 13:18 Greek Diaglott, Free on The Web:

      The #666 (three letters, numbers, symbols) translate into Christos Zeus , Zeus the Savior,containing a CROSS, X as in Xmas. This pagan name has been morphed into the name “Jesus Christ”, the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican). I understood this in the early 1970’s.


      “Come out of HER My people!” Yahshua the Messiah in Revelation 18:4

  10. Neville Johnson: Obama Will Seek Controlling Position in the United Nations,

  11. life changing message and sweet spirit

    also check 00:52:00 minutes

    • this one makes no sense

      they choose arbitrary start dates right out of the air, and come to a future date

      • you are right, sorry , i agree with you. if you could delete them. thanks

      • Marianne,
        You are correct about the mandatory start dates but you are guilty of the same thing right here.
        Your premise here is that Trump is the 7th so Obama will be the 8th etc. But the bible was written 2000 years ago. Can you support your theory back when Roosevelt or Lincoln was president? And what about before the U.S. came to be?
        Many people think the kings were those at the time John wrote it, but that would mean the prophecy should be long fulfilled by now.
        Joseph Smith also believed Christ would return in his day. So Americans today are looking to fulfil it from what they know – the U.S. and the present. Wishful thinking at best.
        But assuming that any US president could serve three terms ever again is grasping at straws. Everyone has their pet interpretations but what we should all as ourselves when we consider a theory is, “Does this scenario make perfect sense? Is it not just possible, but probable as well? Can it be done without divine intervention?” After all, if the prophecy can only be done if God was to intervene in human affairs and become a puppet master and take away our free will, then He hasn’t really predicted anything, has He?
        And today, if you look at all the different interpretations out there, most of them have elements that are illogical or downright impossible. Things such as a single man (Antichrist) taking over the entire world. Putting chips in every human being on earth. Creating one single world religion that everyone agrees on. And many more.
        So any theory that requires a US president to serve 3 terms should not be debated as to how that might happen, but rejected off hand as not valid and then move on to some other theory.

        • james

          as stated in the post, this is just a mental exercise……”what if?”

          the way our country is divided, and full of sin, america’s future looks dismal, with illegals and jihadists flooding our country, and racism taking over again, and democrats screaming to assassinate trump.

          there could be an end to america as we know it and a new system set up, where the rules are different….maybe the globalists will take over finally……..if there is no longer a constitution, then there are no term limits to follow, and no rule of law….

          the next leader after trump may not be a “president”

  12. What are the feet of the bear? Nations below Russia?
    What is the lion? Israel?
    What is the body of a leopard? Africa or some other nation or nations?

    Maybe Harold Camping was right when he saw Obama wearing leopard underwear while riding on a motorcycle! Lol.

  13. I don’t know why all of you guys are stuck in 1980s thinking

    America! The president of the USA?
    Really ?

    Rome ? Done was divided into 4 parts.

    Asia Minor is north of Israel. In100 places the Bible sAys thT the antichrist will come from north of Israel and want to invade Israel and cut off heads


    Come on people!

    Its Iran or near Iran or the Medes !

    Read Isaiah 13 and 31

    Daniel 11:29-45

    The king of the north. Is the antichrist. And that cannot be the USA!!!

  14. “mental” being the key word here


    So many Pharisee “heresy hunters” want to say America is “Babylon” and we should be exterminated in the name of the “God of revenge,” but I think God has called the USA as a chosen nation, despite our sins.

    I just found a really interesting scripture that may in fact point towards America; when you put all the pieces together.

    First of all, of you really read the Bible, “Babylon” is Iraq and possibly Saudi Arabia. IT IS NOT AMERICA! Second of all, here is my latest find that may prove America is in the Bible, in TWO PLACES!

    Ezekiel 17:1-4 seems to speak about an eagle coming to the Holy Land area. This eagle then takes a “young twig” from the “highest branch.” What does this mean, exactly? Well, Isaiah constantly refers to returning Jesus as the “branch,” and so we could conjecture that Jesus is what Ezekiel meant here.

    Ezekiel says that this “branch” is carried by an eagle to a “land of trade, a city of merchants.” One could conjecture that the eagle here might be the USA, as that is the national symbol of America. America is also a land of trade and of merchants.

    This eagle clips off a part of this branch (Jesus) and carries it to the land of traders: the USA. This eagle carrying the branch may also be referring to the Pilgrims, who had JESUS’ (the Branch) RELIGION as their motive in starting the country of America; a “land of trade.” Christians did in fact started the USA, after all. In a fascinating tie in, an interesting scripture is found in Revelation 12:14:

    But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for (the last 3 ½ years) from the presence of the serpent. In the light of the current realities, this makes complete sense. If Israel was being surrounded by Islamic armies, then the USA, (the eagle) would most likely airlift as many Israelis as possible!

    Now back to Ezekiel 17. The end of Ezekiel 17 refers to the Lord Jesus, the clipped off “branch” coming back and standing on the Mount of Olives!
    Here we see how God will plant this branch (Jesus) of a high cedar on a high mountain. This must be the return of Jesus! And yes, it’s the same branch as the first part of Ezekiel 17 mentioned as being clipped off and sent to a land of trade.
    Could it be that one day in the future, this eagle nation will airlift Israel to safety? Yes, God thinks ahead!

    We have seen how Ezekiel 7-11 has the day of the Lord story:
    During a false peace, and on the day, Israel is invaded.
    Israel flees to the mountains.
    Israel is desolated. The temple is defiled. (42 months later)
    The 144,000 Jews are marked on their foreheads.
    Jesus comes back and stands on a mountain east of Jerusalem.

    Ezekiel 12-17 repeats that same story:
    False prophets say peace.
    Israel will be laid waste when “every vision” will be fulfilled.
    Jerusalem will be invaded by beasts and famine. (After the tribulation.)
    A branch is clipped and carried by an eagle to a land of trade.
    A twig from the highest branch is placed on a high mountain.

    Isn’t this astounding all new information?


    Here in Ezekiel 18, God essentially says: “Israel, repent and turn from your sins or die!” God also speaks about how the “sins of the father can visit the sons” in this chapter. What could this mean? It may refer to the fact that at the end of time, God will still be upset with the generation of Israelis who crucified his only son!! I love and support Israel. This is just a conjecture.


    Ezekiel 19:7 speaks of a future prince of Israel, a “young lion” who is roaring and who will perhaps sign this peace treaty which will, in the end, bring about Israel’s desolation.

    He knew their desolate places,
    And laid waste their cities;

    In several places in Ezekiel, I have found where the leaders of Israel will try to escape, only to be caught by the evil people, and thus brought before them.

    9 They put him in a cage with chains,
    And brought him to the king of Babylon;

  16. I hate to say it but there is a possibility mentally of soundly connecting USA with the false Messiah concept. If you look at what Messiah means (for example see Wikipedia entry) it is a special title given to a great ruler who uses his position and power to greatly save Israel. God gave the title to Cyrus. A ‘messiah’ could identify themselves with Cyrus who was of course the king of kings of Persia and Media (now Iran and the Kurdistan area). They might say that like Cyrus they have used their power to create the State of Israel and continually save and champion it. Now that is a claim similar to a claim to Messiahship. The fact that Persia was famous for going into the background only to re-emerge later as Parthia is along the lines of it being called the bear in prophecy. The bear hibernates in winter and is powerless yet before that and after it revives it is full of deadly power. Persia is set to re-emerge again as part of the lion-bear-leopard first Beast empire. USA might say it is in the image of this Persia in that it created the State of Israel and champions it using its superpower status and therefore representing the Messiahly role Persia under Cyrus once had, given by God. Yet if it is false in any of this it might be a false Messiah. It should stay true and be faithful and not be a false champion of Israel but a true one. And stay out of future world takeover under the first Beast. If when the first Beast rises there is a boast of Messiahship on Americas part and claim to be a copy of Cyrus then it might be becoming the second Beast or laying its foundations.

  17. A very interesting perspective and thought provoking. One thing that comes to mind, because we live in America I think we have a tendency to think the Bible is talking about us. Probably in many other civilized Countries where the Christian faith abides, people think the same way. Tracking their own Leaders and trying to figure out who might be the anti- Christ coming out of their Country.
    I am leaving a link to my blog regarding dreams I had during a 40 day fast. I am sharing what I was shown, although I do not discount your theory either. Blessings, KB


    • kasey

      thank you for sharing that. rather than this theory of an american leader, it may be very well a muslim leader that arises….as muslims are Israel’s greatest enemy.

      this post was a mental exercise. I have other posts that explore the muslim / iran / middle east antichrist figure as well.




    • Look I’m not that naive. Please that’s condescending

      Not in fact say if anything ametica is the whore of Babylon

      Ezekiel 17 speaks of an eagle nation of traders who may have been started by the branch Jesus

      Rev 12 speaks of an eagle flying Israel to safety fir the last 3 1/2 years of time
      Who but America would Airlift Israel to safety ?

      These are new discoveries and they are very logical

      The end of ez 17 speaks of zech 14:4. Where Jesus the branch will be planted on a high mountain

      There is a pattern

      Ez 7-11

      On the day Israel is invaded by the wirst of the Gentiles

      The temple is deviled

      An idol of jealousy in the temple


      The glory comes and stands on the mount of olives

      Ez 12-17 repeats this with the branch being planted on a high mountain so it is and tone related

      Gee whiz guys anyone interested in a new find. Or are all of set on the antichrist Viking fir Rome and the USA. Bring the whore ?

      • I think there are so many layers of prophecy, that multiple interpretations are possible….we have to wait and see how it all turns out

  18. So being that at the time of this prophecy ROME was in charge and being that it was Rome that set up/made up the Muslim religion, and being the papacy has far reaching tentacles through the world injecting itself in many governments then how is it a country non existing when Revelation was written be spoken of at that time? When Hebrews said “the world” back then they largely meant the known world back then, basically the Middle East and the Orient, Africa and Europe.

    • Part of Rome was Asia Minor

      All other prophecy says tHat the antichrist comes ftom north of Israel
      The facts are that the antichrist will cut off heads and want to invade Israel

      Would the papacy do this? No

      Would Muslim nations do this?


      • Ha! Please review history! The Papacy (Vatican) DID chop off heads during the Dark Ages (ruled by Rome) killing the true Bible believers in those days. Remember Joan of Arc? Personally, I do not believe that the true believers in Yahweh and His Son Yahshua will lose their heads or lives because they are SEALED and have the victory over the beast (Vatican) and his image (idol) “Jesus Christ”, the REAL antiMessiah! Revelation 14 They are saved because they come OUT of Christianity!
        HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”


        • four yall way 99the texas version of your name)

          so your point about the Catholic church cutting off heads is a good one…. but in TODAYS WORLD, who does this? You see, i mades several points, the main one being that a northern army will invade israel at the end of time led by THE ASSYRIAN (isaiah 10)

          assyria is north of israel. Daniel 11 :29-45 speaks of the Antichrist —-THE KING OF THE NORTH invading the sunni nations.
          ——– then he acts like he is going back home and in a surprise — he attacks Israel!

          Joel 2:20 confirms: when jesus comes back he will drive the NORTHERN ARMY OUT of Israel.

          Isaiah 14:25: Jesus kicks the assyrian Antichrist out

          In all sincerity, what part of NORTH DO NOT UNDERSTAND?

          Now we know that Islam cuts off heads, and Islam wants to invade ISrael right? in todays world? ANd Islam iwould want a peace treaty with israel………..and islam is north of ISrael>?

          AND GET THIS when Jesus returns, he comes from EDOM and MUSLIM NATIONS WHEN HE COMES BACK!!!!!

          Perhaps you could not ignore this and answer me… thank you how the vatican is north of israel…?

          • 11~14~6000 (out of 6000) in this LAST YEAR!
            Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON!
            Pray NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM.
            Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

            Alan, forgive me, I just read your reply. WHO controls Islam?
            The one(s) who started this phony religion! The Vatican (In Rome!). This is WHY the Vatican is the beast of Revelation 13:1. With pagan Islam, pagan Christianity, and other pagan religions, it is literally controlling the world!


  19. Years ago everyone thought Hitler was the antichrist and they were wrong. If we were suppose to know who is the antichrist people would be trying to do something about it by now. No one knows who is the antichrist or when Christ will return. It says in the Bible that the angels from heaven don’t know when Christ will return little known us. The only sign that the time is near for Christ return is the moon to be turning red and there will be wars plus people will be getting more evil which says in the Bible. Some of the Bible prediction is starting to become true such as people are becoming godless and more evil by killing innocent people.

    As far as the antichrist is concerned it will be someone who we least expect.

    • lynnette

      I think the ac may or not be who we least expect. it also could be someone we suspect, but we cannot prove it, until the time comes. as the days grow more evil, more ac personalities will arise to support the rise of the ac, so they will seem as candidates

  20. HEy all i have done what no one ever has–I looked all the OLD TES texts about the day of the LOr and the end of time…..


    a northern islamic army will invade israel and desolate her— how many of you think that the antichrist will be a peaceful powerful leader who walks through the streets of jerusalem and SUDDENLY HE TURNS INTO THE MAN OF SIN?



    the real bible predicts that God will be mad at his own people and thus he will send the Antichrist to destroy israel… to make it desolate, to lay it waste ……

    Isaiah 7 and 10 say this:

    is 7:

    In the same day the Lord will shave with a hired razor,
    With those from beyond the River, with the king of Assyria,

    is 10:
    5 “Woe to Assyria, the rod of My anger
    And the staff in whose hand is My indignation.
    6 I will send him against an ungodly nation,
    And against the people of My wrath
    I will give him charge,
    To seize the spoil, to take the prey,
    12 Therefore it shall come to pass, when the Lord has performed all His work on Mount Zion and on Jerusalem, that He will say, “I will punish the fruit of the arrogant heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his haughty looks.”
    13 For he says:
    “By the strength of my hand I have done it,

    jesus comes back in is 10–making it end time related:

    17 So the Light of Israel will be for a fire,
    And his Holy One for a flame;
    It will burn and devour
    His thorns and his briers in one day.

    and then the remnant if israel comes back:

    20 And it shall come to pass in that day
    That the remnant of Israel,
    And such as have escaped of the house of Jacob,
    Will never again depend on him who defeated them,
    But will depend on the Lord, the Holy One of Israel, in truth.
    21 The remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob,

    then god speaks of the Assyrian.. NOT THE POPE!

    24 Therefore thus says the Lord God of hosts: “O My people, who dwell in Zion, do not be afraid of the Assyrian. He shall strike you with a rod and lift up his staff against you, in the manner of Egypt. 25 For yet a very little while and the indignation will cease, as will My anger in their destruction.” 26 And the Lord of hosts will stir up a scourge for him like the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb; as His rod was on the sea, so will He lift it up in the manner of Egypt.
    27 It shall come to pass in that day
    That his burden will be taken away from your shoulder,


    ISAIAH !4 25 confirms;
    That I will break the Assyrian in My land,
    And on My mountains tread him underfoot.
    Then his yoke shall be removed from them,
    And his burden removed from their shoulders.

  21. http://mnewlife.org/pages/2017Teshuvah_Prayer_Guide___Booklet_overview

  22. https://livestream.com/accounts/1969900/events/7653949

    this video is about Edom, tribe of Esau , tribe of jacob,

    king of David, messiah . esau ‘s read skin, and king david’s ruddy skin ?

    many new ideas, especially when he talk about messiah – Jesus.

    as l know that Jesus is sinless. he has other perspective ??

    if Anyone could discern what he said are true or not ?


    God Bless

  23. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH9URoKU0AA9qU8.jpg:large

    Hi Marianne, or anyone,

    i have question regarding to the the seven church of book revelation and how Jesus address himself to the 7 church , Jesus’ Introduction Of Himself to 7 churches, i felt there is insight of these introduction of Jesus.
    there are some relationship between the introduction of Jesus’s and the 7 churches. i do not know , any thoughts on this ? see a chart which was copy / paste from other’s charts.


  24. I’m still trying to keep an open mind, but my mind keeps referring back to this webpage I found many years ago from the Pacific Institute.


    • this is just an exercise in thinking through all interpretations.

      so the papacy is an option as well.

      my choice is Islam

      many countries will have evil rulers who seem to either BE the antichrist, or FORESHADOW him

  25. http://www.lwf.torqt.net/pdf/OurFinetsHour/Our_Finest_Hour_Vol2_4.pdf

    Neville Johnson and other prophets ‘s prophetic words

    • Vol 2 Issue 4 on watch at the door



        • alan

          what you said is amazing, very different from what I hear now.

          so I should stop collecting survival food?

          I agree about cahn.

          I hope the best for america, but do see that its sins require some form of punishment, unless there is repentance.

          **note you put the same link in twice

          • Thx m. Here is my teaching where will the antichrist come from

            All you guys perhaps can give me some feedback


        • alan

          what I meant by “what I hear now” refers to news on the internet or from others who publish. I was not referring to a private revelation of my own. I am not a prophet, just a bible writer and watch person.

  26. Why do you start 8 kings from Jimmy Carter ? What is the reason ? for eg: Cannot we start it from Bill Clinton or George W. Bush. Then you have to wait for your next presidents.

  27. Hi Marianne. I think it would be beneficial if we could do an exercise in analysis on what proceeds the Antichrist; The falling away first in 2 Thessalonians 2:3 and the strong delusion of 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12. I would love to hear some thoughts on this subject seeing how it proceeds and leads to this Antichrist. The scriptures are as follows:

    Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition… 2 Thessalonians 2:3

    The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

    What could the falling away be? The Greek word for “falling away” is translated apostasy which translates to a leaving or departure from a previous standing.

    What are your thoughts on this?
    Is it happening today?
    How is it leading to the Antichrist?

    Furthermore, what do you think the strong delusion God is sending or has sent mean? A lie that that those who are falling away will believe.

    By doing an exercise in analysis on these scriptures, we might have a fuller understanding of who the Antichrist could be.

    Do you already have a post in reference to this subject or should we discuss it here?

    • Islam is apostasy. Christians the world over are converting to Islam —- which denies that god has a son or that he died fir our sins. Or that he rose from the dead

      The AC IS THE king of the north

      Those lands are all Islamic now

      Rev says the AC BEHEADS

      Only Islam beheads

      Rev 13 —-the 666 in Greek looks like in Arabic no god but Allah

      The Bible predicts the AC will
      Invade Israel

      Islam wants to invade Israel

      Islam is the apostasy

    • priscilla

      I agree that apostasy , the falling away, has already started.

      the strong delusion could be anything and I have wondered about it myself, with no conclusions.

      however, apostate people are delusional, and would believe anything

      the bible says that in the end times good will be seen as evil, and evil will be seen as good.

      so, in general, something evil will be seen as good, and weak people will believe it, and condemn themselves

      • Marianne,

        We are defiantly experiencing the good as being evil and the evil as being good.

        Just heard on the news at lunch, another set of media complaints about our policeman being the evil ones and the people they are protecting us from as being the poor good guys.

        The world has defiantly filliped upside down and the media is no help.

        • I agree I just saw a disturbing video this morning where the transgenders and others of that sort were influencing small children to be part of their really lewd displays and activities. and somehow no one sees this as child endangerment. they think it is good not evil . this is truly evil to destroy the children this way

    • The strong delusion could have to do with aliens

      Jeremiah 4 says fallen angel watchers will
      March with the antichrist

  28. Ah, Islam, this could be the lie those who are “falling away” believe in. It could also become the one world religion, if Islam obtains their goal of Islamic world dominance.

    The Islamist lie to the population and say they are a religion of peace, yet their “fruit” say otherwise. This lie is one among many, which the Islamic world uses, as a form of jihadist combat to gain their objective(s).

    The world and so called “Christians” on the other hand, believe this lie and congratulate themselves on their tolerance. They condemn anyone else who will not embrace this prideful stance.

    As current history is showing us, the world is entering a time of hurt due to this behavior:

    • The Canadian parliament has passed a landmark anti-Islamophobia
    and religious discrimination motion that calls on politicians to condemn
    anti-Islamic behavior and rhetoric.
    • Sharia Law in Europe
    • USA’s take on this: Trump’s Muslim Ban Impoverishes Us All

    This is just a few of the many comments on the web.

    Now the question we need to ask ourselves is how tolerant would Jesus be with this or any “religion” other than His Truth, the Bible and His Gospel?

    John 14:6 – Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    His example is what we must embrace as Christians. Any other response would lead us away from the truth.

    • I agree with what all of you have said.

    • Possible, but bible says even the elect could be deceived. Is the elect deceived by islam? Who are the elect?

      • Good observation,

        Let’s touch on each of these:

        In both Matthew 24:24 and Mark 13:22 it does say that false Christ’s and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders that would deceive (in Greek: mislead, lead astray, cause to wander) even the elect (in Greek: chosen, elect, select), if that where possible.

        Let’s look at the word “deceive”. The Greek expands on this word deceive. It includes mislead, lead astray and cause to wander.

        The word elect, in general, is a person, nation and/or group of people chosen out of the world by God himself. Examples: He chose Abraham, the nation of Israel and those who call on the name of the Lord.

        Can the elect be misled or deceived by Islam? Yes, I believe in many ways, and for short periods of time, especially if we do not stay in the scriptures. There are also indirect ways of deception that we, the elect, can be misled or deceived.

        One way is through tolerance of false religions including Islam. This type of miss direction opens the way of disaster for us. It might be too late before we realize what we have done, for this religion is so deceptive. Remember Paul warned us of savage wolves such as these in Acts 20:29-31 with many tears.

        Thank goodness God ends this scripture in Matthew and Mark with “If that where possible.” I thank Jesus, He will not let His elect stray too far. (John 6:39, 10:28-30)

        • As far as Islam and the elect. I think also something to keep in mind is that there may be an alien UFO

          CONNECTION That could fool the elect

          The Bible could drastically change under the mandela effect. And verify Mohammad’s claims

        • the elect could only be deceived if they are not in the word, ignorant or asleep. but then why would they be the elect if they are this careless?

  29. I disagree with the conclusion. There’s a channel on youtube called “Angel White” that has done plenty of superb videos that are much more plausible in explaining why, if anything, it’d be Donald Trump, who’s the antichrist.

    There’s much he doesn’t cover in his videos, but the comment section to each video does. In my opinion, Trump fits so many of the attributes, it’s crazy. That includes history repeating itself through the self-identifying religious making the poor decision of preferring a counterfeit Christ over the real Christ and all that comes with Him (in the past, the pharisees chose Barabbas, and today’s modern day pharisees, and in particular, Israel, has chosen Trump as their claimed “spirit of King Cyrus”). But that’s just the tip of the iceberg. One could rattle off of their fingers the growing number of antichrist traits he fits.

  30. Yes, I am. Only learning but I fill I know the defiance from right and wrong there is something so wrong with our a country so much hated against trump and so much love for Obama I don’t know how to explain it but something is happening I don’t fill its anything good

  31. It says in the bible that no one knows who will be the antichrist because he will fool everyone in the world.

    People are getting more wicked and that is a sign that Christ is not far off returning. If any ruler does not do the right thing in any country they are not liked by the people and this applies to any ruler in the world.

    Years ago they said that Hitler was the antichrist because of the evil he was doing and made out the communist was the key to a happy country. They were wrong about him.

    People in general have to change their ways of doing evil and turn to the Lord Jesus Christ.

    • Well, then, Lynnette, people will be turning to the pagan name of the image (idol) of the beast (Vatican)! The Bible does NOT say that no one will know WHO the antiMessiah is. In fact, many of us KNOW and have for many years! Revelation 13:18 says that the WISE with UNDERSTANDING will KNOW! Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah! Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”


      • Yes they will know in the long run who is the beast but he will fool people at first in the world

        • 12~5~2018 Third Day of Hanukkah in these LOST DAYS!
          Yahshua the Son of Yahweh Returns VERY SOON! PRAY NOW to be SAVED and SEALED in THEM. Revelation 14:1 HalleluYah
          Hebrew: “Praise ye Yah!”

          Lynette, Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, Obama, and even Trump are ALL antiMessiahs because they served/serve The Vatican. And Hitler was a fascist NOT a communist. However, Fascism AND Communism came from The Vatican. They both HAVE CROSSES: The fascists (Nazis) have the swastika a crooked cross. The communists have a CROSS made with a hammer and a sickle. And, of course, the Christians have the Christian CROSS, also the cross in the Greek #666, Revelation 13:18 X as in Xmas sometimes called the Papal cross. (Yahweh HATES the Christmas pagan holiday! )THAT is one reason WHY The Vatican has become the beast of Revelation 13:1. Anyone (ANYONE!) still believing that President Donald J. Trump is a patriotic leader doing good for America NEEDS TO WAKE UP NOW! He has designated today as a memorial day for former President George H.W. Bush, THE CHIEF SCOUNDREL of the 20th Century. (He may or may not be in that coffin. If not, he sure must have had a real kick watching his own funeral from his luxury underground bunker possibly with “lovely” wife Barbara.) WHY would he FAKE his own funeral? Possibly to escape the peoples’ wrath when the economy finally collapses or some other government wrought disaster. Yes, everyone needs to WAKE UP and get THE FACTS! Like me,they need to choose NOT to be deceived !
          Yahshua the Messiah said, “The TRUTH shall make you FREE!”

          BECOME ONE NOW!

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