Islam – Religion of Peace or War


Answering the question – which is it?

The following is a brochure published by the CBN Network.

It explains the quotes from the Quran regarding peace and war.

Arabic scholars bring you a historical and shocking narrative on the tenets of Islam and the life of its founder.

The earlier passages citing peace were later “abrogated” or cancelled and replaced by warlike passages later in time.

According to Islamic practice, the later passages of war replace the early passages for peace.

I suggest printing it out and using it as a study resource.

One can also call CBN for a hard copy: (757) 226-7000

Click on PDF file below to view brochure:


This will explain, and justify according to the Quran, the current jihad activity of Hamas, Hezbollah, and ISIS that we see today.

For Muslims who believe it is a religion of peace, they need to re-examine their own scriptures.

For Muslims who really want peace, this will present a spiritual challenge to them, to compare what they want to what Islam really stands for.

This is also a wake up call for Christians who are deceived about what Islam is.

175 Responses to “Islam – Religion of Peace or War”

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    • Islam is the most significant antichrist described in the Bible. Quote: Who is the antichrist, other than they who say Jesus is not the Son of God

  2. Allah, one of 360 gods Muhammad made everyone worship, or else off with their head, is known to History as the god Sin. Sin is also known as Tammuz, or Apollo. The sky god. Lucifer’s man on earth. To the northern folk like the Saxons and Vikings it would be known as Thor.

    To those within the UN Allah is known as the Superman they pray to every full moon to once again rule the world. Just like Nimrod.

    Muhammad could not read, or write and his sayings were written down much later after he was dead. He was a known raider of caravans, taking slaves, raping and murdering. He enjoyed little boys and raped a 9 year old girl. He did not bring anything new into the world. Just more murder and pain.

    Islam is a religion and political system. It is at war with the world until Islam wins.

    I Leatherneck, the greatest of all Barbaric Christian Infidels and smartest enlisted Marine of all time, wrote the above information.

  3. I prefer to read the Bible. Though I know others think they have valid input, all that matters to me is my relationship with our Lord.

    • And that’s why it’s The way it is today
      Because so many in the world
      Have not told Muslims the truth
      Islam is not a religion
      It is a cult
      The only religion is Christianity
      There are not three great religions in the world
      God would never tell one religion That Jesus Christ is the only begotten Son of God
      Then tell another religion
      That God has no son
      The so-called prophecies of Islam mean nothing
      Is only what is written in the Holy Word of God
      That we need to Believ
      Sure it’s okay to learn about other Opinion
      But there’s only one religion that is Christianity
      Islam believes a lie
      Everything in the Quran is a lie
      They are the devil does some compromising
      But basically it is only lies
      You would think the Muslims would hate their so called Allah
      Because of the way he lets them live
      Bondage And they are taught to hate And murder anybody who doesn’t agree with themThey need to be told believe in the Lord Jesus Christ
      And you shall be saved

  4. Religion of Peace? More like Religion of Pieces. They only use the word peace as a greeting (salam). Until the entire world is Islam then they deem the word “peace” in its meaningful or original sense. From Mohammad to the present day, they have made and deliberately broke agreements, because in their ideology this kind of “peace agreement” is manmade and only binding if they find it necessary to their ideological advantage. Past history has shown that all agreements have been broken by Islam. Why? In the hadith you will observe that patience is not their virtue, they want to conqueror quickly to show their obedience by taking over the world, thus appeasing their pagan god allah xul (Babylonian evil god) to obtain their reward.

  5. Bishop urges Christians to call God ‘Allah’! 😮

  6. Hi Marianne. I think the religion of Illuminism is much more of a threat than Islam – they created radical Islam in the first place… They’re really calling the shots…

    Here’s a good article by a Christian on the subject:

    • Veritopian

      I guess another way of looking at this religious jihad problem or illuminati problem, is that christianity failed in its mission. if it had been inspiring like it should have been, none of this other stuff would flourish.

      in either case, the failure of christians to properly spread the gospel in a pure form has now allowed false and dangerous substitutes to arise, which now threaten humanity.

      this goes to show that man is incapable of governing this earth, or representing god on earth….only Jesus can do that…and I can hardly wait for him to return

  7. – man is incapable of governing this earth

    I don’t know if that’s right… Mankind has been under Satan’s control for a very long time, and the people running the show have been aggressively indoctrinated into the Satanic religion (through sexual abuse) from childhood. So man has *never* had a free-hand to govern the Earth. Satan has always been in full control of it.

    In fact, in non-Satanic societies, such as (most of) the American Indians, they lived in peaceful coexistence with nature & with deep reverence for God. The governed themselves & the Earth very well…

    If Satan was removed from the equation, what would the Earth be like today?

    I agree that the church has failed to teach Christianity, and that’s one of the big problems… It is a deliberate counterfeit, IMO. 🙂

  8. And many will form a covenant (against ISIS) and the Anti Christ will be amongst them.

  9. The Demons Who Were Cast Out Of Heaven, Are All Muslim

    The devils that fell from Heaven are all Muslim. I learn this not only from the fact that Islam is satanic, but from the Koran itself. I have done an entire video explaining how and why the demons are actually themselves Muslim:

    By the admission of the Muslims’ own book, once the demons fell from Heaven, they converted to Islam, and not only that, but they vowed to protect Allah, and call him their lord. The Koran even provides a message from the demons themselves, called Surat al-Jinn (the chapter on the demons — jinn means demons), in which they praise the Koran, confirm their belief in Islam, attack the Trinity, saying God has no son, and promise that they will provide water to whoever converts to Islam:

    Surely we have heard a wonderful Quran, Guiding to the right way, so we believe in it, and we will not set up any one with our Lord: And that He– exalted be the majesty of our Lord– has not taken a consort, nor a son: And that the foolish amongst us used to forge extravagant things against Allah: And that we thought that men and jinn did not utter a lie against Allah: And that persons from among men used to seek refuge with persons from among jinn, so they increased them in wrongdoing: And that they thought as you think, that Allah would not raise anyone:

    And that we sought to reach heaven, but we found it filled with strong guards and flaming stars. And that we used to sit in some of the sitting-places thereof to steal a hearing, but he who would (try to) listen now would find a flame lying in wait for him: And that we know not whether evil is meant for those who are on earth or whether their Lord means to bring them good: And that some of us are good and others of us are below that: we are sects following different ways: And that we know that we cannot escape Allah in the earth, nor can we escape Him by flight: And that when we heard the guidance, we believed in it; so whoever believes in his Lord, he should neither fear loss nor being overtaken (by disgrace): And that some of us are those who submit, and some of us are the deviators; so whoever submits, these aim at the right way:

    And as to the deviators, they are fuel of hell: And that if they should keep to the (right) way, We would certainly give them to drink of abundant water, So that We might try them with respect to it; and whoever turns aside from the reminder of his Lord, He will make him enter into an afflicting chastisement: And that the mosques are Allah’s, therefore call not upon any one with Allah: And that when the servant of Allah stood up calling upon Him, they wellnigh crowded him (to death). (Surat al-Jinn, 1-19)

    There are two pertinent things to notice here, one is that they provide “drink of abundant water” to whomever “should keep to the (right) way,” which means that the demons bless converts to Islam. Is it any wonder that there are numerous converts to Islam cutting peoples heads off and doing all sorts of brutal murders in the West? People want to talk about when these people were “radicalized,” when the real point of attribution is the demonic influence and possession that is entering these people’s souls and causing them to commit the violence. When you see ISIS slaughtering Christians and destroying churches, what you are seeing is a bunch of people who have drunk the water of demons.

    The second significant line from the Surat al-Jinn is “that He– exalted be the majesty of our Lord– has not taken a consort, nor a son“, which is a deliberate attack against the Holy Trinity. Therefore, when Muslims attack the Trinity, their sentiments are in agreement with the demons speaking in the Koran. Hatred of the Trinity is not just a Koranic belief, but is of the entire core of the demonic world. The Koran, by its very nature, is a demonic book that agrees with demons, and this is found in its own pages.

    Ralph Sarchie, a demonologist who has done several exorcism cases, tells us that the demonic has an intense hatred for the Holy Trinity. He writes that “the demonic love to do things in threes, to mock the Christian trinity of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.” (Deliver Us From Evil, ch. 13 p. 300)

    Sarchie recounts a story in which a family that was being heavily bombarded with demonic attack, began praying and a demon scratched a girl with three cuts on her face, in mockery of the Holy Trinity, Father, Son, and Holy Spirit:

    She, Marybeth, and Jamie folded their hands and resumed their prayers for a few minutes, until Marybeth let out a loud yelp of pain. “Mommy, my face is burning,” she cried, and Claudia saw three side-by-side scratches appear on her daughter’s cheek . There was that number again, the calling card of the demonic. (Ibid, ch. 5, p. 107)

    Even the traditional exorcism ritual itself commands, in the words of Sarchie, “all spirits ‘not in worship to the Trinity’ to depart” (Deliver Us From Evil, ch. 12, p. 240). This means that devils flee from the Holy Trinity.

    The same demons who are adverse to the Holy Trinity are the same demons in the Koran who converted to Islam. The hatred for the Trinity, therefore, is demonic. The demons in the Koran reject that God has a son, and thus despise of sonship of Christ.

    Satan himself, though he knows that Christ is the Son of God, is rebelliously defiant against the sonship of Christ. For when Jesus was in the desert he told him,

    If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread. (Matthew 4:3)

    Satan clearly here is challenging Christ’s sonship. Satan hates the very idea that Christ is the Son of God, and has devised, and is devising, all sorts of ways to misconstrue or refute the Trinity in order to deceive people.

    Some cults, like Islam and Unitarianism, say that Christ is not God. Other cults, like the modalists or Oneness Pentecostalism, will say that God is not triune, and that Christ is merely a manifestation or projection of God. There are cults, such as the Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Seventh Day Adventists, that say that Christ was actually Michael the Archangel in the flesh.

    Why would Satan want people to worship Michael the Archangel? Well, for one, Satan does not want you to revere Michael, but wants you to shift your worship away from Christ, and by getting you to think that Christ is Michael, he in turn gets you to worship the demonic. Satan hates Michael, and while one may think that Christ is Michael, that person is really bowing down to the devil.

    Satan has nothing but enmity for Michael, and even hates any statues or any form of remembrance of the Archangel. So he will mimic himself as Michael. Why? Because he has never forgotten what happened to him and his demons, when they were utterly defeated by Michael and his angels. Satan has never erased from his memory how “Michael the archangel, in contending with the devil, when he disputed about the body of Moses, dared not bring against him a reviling accusation, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!”” (Jude 1:9)

    Satan despises Michael because of his victory over him, and hence wants to become Michael. In doing this, he entitles himself as Michael and convinces people to worship him. It is no wonder as to why exorcists will ask for the help of Michael and his angels to cast the devils out, because it is he, by the command and providence of the Holy Trinity, who crushed the devil and his angels.

    Some will even go far as to say that Christ never came in the flesh, but that He was a phantom or a ghost. These are what you call gnostics, and were quite powerful in medieval southern France when they called themselves Cathars.

    There are also those who say that Christ was not God, but that he simply showed us how to become a “son” of God in the figurative since through His teachings. This is what Christian Science teaches.

    All of these deceptions are made by the devil to misconstrue and sway people from the Holy Trinity to a demonic disfiguration of it. This is why we must always turn to Orthodoxy, and remember the Nicene Creed:

    I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.

    And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only-begotten Son of God, begotten of the Father before all worlds; God of God, Light of Light, very God of very God; begotten, not made, being of one substance with the Father, by whom all things were made.

    Who, for us men for our salvation, came down from heaven, and was incarnate by the Holy Spirit of the virgin Mary, and was made man; and was crucified also for us under Pontius Pilate; He suffered and was buried; and the third day He rose again, according to the Scriptures; and ascended into heaven, and sits on the right hand of the Father; and He shall come again, with glory, to judge the quick and the dead; whose kingdom shall have no end.

    And I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Lord and Giver of Life; who proceeds from the Father [and the Son]; who with the Father and the Son together is worshipped and glorified; who spoke by the prophets.

    And I believe one holy catholic and apostolic Church. I acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; and I look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.”

  10. I do not believe the Catholic Church is Holy. People within it maybe, but not the Church and it’s dogma. Mary is not co-Regent, infants do not need Baptism, the bread does not turn to flesh and the dead can not hear prayers…

  11. Wow, Marianne . . . I have never known you to write such a long response. It chills me to the bone. I believe that what is happening now in the Middle East is the beginning of the end, or, atleast the end of this and the beginning of something new. WWIII is upon us. The fight is in full swing. We will eventually put ground troops there (actually we already have, it is just that the government won’t admit it) and someone is going to pull the trigger on the big bomb. It might take 30 days, it might take 30 years. It is here.

    • it was a copy and paste explaining the video….that quran says the demons converted to Islam.

      • Marianne I can see you have much insight And great understanding of God’s Word
        But why do you even acknowledge anything the Quran says?
        When it is nothing but the devil who dictated the Quran to Muhammad
        Thus saith the Lord is all we should concern ourselves with
        Another words why are you even concerned with what Satan says?

        • the idea is to inform people who do not know this information, so they will not be deceived…personally, I ignore the devil and what he says and he does not control my life…but others will believe and be deceived….so I post information for those who need it

        • RB: In putting on our “Armor of God” as instructed in Ephesians (6:11-17) we should trust in the Lord but know well the devil and persevere with watchfulness. (KJV) 2 Peter 5:8 states, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:” (KJV)

          I, too, would also prefer to just talk about God and witness Jesus. And time and time again we are warned in the Bible not to ignore satan, “Lest satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.” 2 Corinthians 2:11 (KJV)


          • Satan cannot get an advantage over me if I don’t know the Quran
            However I do know the Quran and Hadith
            And the history of Muhammad

            • RB – I don’t understand your statement here and I would like to know what you are trying to convey –
              – You believe satan has no power over anyone who simply does not know the Quran? I don’t “know” the Quran yet I believe I still must be vigilant, very vigilant;
              – You share that you DO know the Quran, the Hadith, and the history of Muhammad, so, since you DO know the Quran, are you saying that satan CAN get an advantage over you?

              I am confused and I am not hearing what you are wanting us to understand by these statements, could you please clarify? I want to understand what you are saying.


  13. Muslims who live by evil all have demons, but not all demons are Muslims.

    Satan, the father of all lies, is a master at what he does, deceiving the

    whole world, even under of the name of Christ, found in the RCC and other

    religious cults…
    [the pope, under RCC doctrine has always been christ on earth= infallible]

    *The Word of God sharper than any two edged sword exposes the subtle

    lies of the enemy.

    We are warned by Jesus, do not be deceived, many will come in HIS

    Matt 24:5 Mark 13:16 Acts 17:11

  14. Muslims treat their Women like Sex Slaves! 😦
    …an Interesting article (along with it’s more interesting comments)!

    • It is the women I feel the worst for, forced into Islam religion they were likely born into & treated worst then dogs. It is reported many Muslims are having visions of Jesus & converting likely secretly, just to save their heads. If they convert and refuse to bow to Allah; they are surely relieved welcoming heaven instantly when tortured & beheaded.

    • terrible, we know about it but cannot get anyone to see it as a crime.

      • It is the price our Savior said we will pay for HIS namesake.

        Jesus was not loved by HIS own, but hated, and assured us; so will we.

        Here in the U.S. these persecutions are beginning to happen. Of

        course technology keeps us informed or can silence the Truth.

        We will continue to see prophesies fulfilled.

        Our Blessed Hope is our redemption!

      • Marianne. Well I don’t hear of any paedophile networks in Muslim churches on the news. You have a weird concept of proaganda.

        • christianity has been compromised (apostacy) and so has the media. that is the last place you will hear of muslim pedophiles.

          google it and you will find the information.


          • “Christianity has been compromised ” and Islam has been compromised. What is your point in this article? Christianity has been taken over by war mongers and so has Islam. What is your point?

            • jesus taught peace and holiness, muhammed taught war and rape and pillage.

              basic difference between the two beginnings.

              Islam has not changed….christianity has gone haywire

              • Yahweh was hardly a bringer of peace.

              • I suspect that conflict is the best way forward,
                “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law-a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

                • “I suspect that conflict is the best way forward,”

                  Sven, is this what you believe Mathew 10:34-36 is stating? That Jesus believes the “best way forward” is through conflict and violence? Jesus does state, for us not to assume he came to bring peace but a sword, in that verse.

                  However, I believe the sword refers to division, dividing people, believers versus non believers, including families. He goes on to say in Mathew 10:37 “Anyone who loves his father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; and anyone who does not take up his cross and follow me is not worthy of me.”

                  We who follow Him should be prepared to sacrifice for our commitment to Him. It is a sword of discernment separating believers from non believers.

                  Further in the Gospel of Matthew as Jesus is being arrested he states in Matthew 26:52 “Put your sword back in its place, Jesus said to him, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.”

                  Might it be a spiritual sword that also divides families He is referring to? Just a thought.


                • Quite possibly Denise but that will hardly bring about reconciliation. It will bring about division and conflict. I am saying that this is the way it will and must be. He implies that believers should stand up and turn away from non believers who will finish their days turning against believers and then each other. That is the way it will be … the way forwards.

                  • I believe we are saying the same thing, just a little bit different.

                    • Indeed. But He will put a sword in their hands and cause conflict so get used to it.

                  • You are right…it will bring division & conflict 😉
                    From your birth and till now, where did you NOT find a conflict between Truth and Lie??? That’s a universal conflict, it was there, it is there and it will be there! You can’t expect truth & false existing peacefully, can you? That’s the point of creation of the Almighty. Or to be VERY simple, can Bad & Good exist peacefully??? There HAS to be division & conflict!!! If you are bad and your father is good, obviously there will be conflict/divisions in your family itself! That’s the whole story of our life is all about, right? If you don’t feel/understand what bad is, how will you understand/differentiate what good is???????? If you don’t understand what darkness is how will you feel what light is???
                    The mirror always has 2 sides 😉
                    You choose the Almighty (Jesus in this case) or you choose what belongs to you in this earth (i.e., materialism), simple! Its up to us and only us to choose 🙂

                    The point is, Yeshuwa indicated the spiritual sword and Muhammad, the steel (metal) one. One brings peaceful conflict and the other violent conflict. But conflict has to be there!!!
                    Somewhat like you choose your girlfriend or you choose your mother, somewhat 😉 If you choose both…CONFLICT 😉

                    • Sounds like you know my girlfriend and mother quite well.

                    • @Sven – “Sounds like you know my…”
                      No I don’t 😦
                      Actually I used an allegory/symbolic example having a little deeper meaning 😉 . Maybe only a married + aged person could understand it more easily.
                      Ok, let me correct my statement…
                      “Somewhat like if anybody chooses his girlfriend or he chooses his mother…somewhat 😉 . If he choose both…CONFLICT 😉

    Below taken from the site above:

    We know that the true Church has always been persecuted. The very first Church in Jerusalem suffered great persecution “…at that time there was a great persecution against the church” (Acts 8:1). This continued throughout the centuries. It climaxed under the religious/political rulership of the Catholic Church where hundreds of thousands, even millions, were executed for their faith in Jesus. Persecution continues until this very day. While physical persecution is limited to some African, Middle Eastern and Asian nations, we must never think that we have been spared from persecution. However, persecution in the western world is not physical. Countries, like us, with a constitution or Declaration of Independence built on ancient Roman laws have citizens who enjoy religious freedom and the right to assemble. In other words, the government is not after us.

    YET< my words.

  16. Now watch this (if you haven’t already)!

    Muslim Leaders Declare Aim Of World Domination. Rome, London, Spain, Paris, America, ISIS!!! 😮

  17. Islamic State group beheads British hostage! 😦

    • :::sigh::: Looks like Peter Kassig, an American aid worker, is next. 26 years old, he was taken hostage while traveling from Lebanon into Syria a year ago. He had served as an army ranger in the middle east and returned to assess and improve how humanitarian organizations interact with and cooperate with each other and those they serve. God help him and his family.

  18. I’ve not seen this latest vid, but the first one was declared a fake (even) by the UK Times, and the other two looked just as fake. I watched them.
    It looks like they’re staged in order to provide a pretext for military action.
    Besides, the US is killing 49 civilians for each ‘terrorist’ with it’s drone strikes in Pakistan, so it’s also a question of perspective.

    Again, who really is ISIS? Omar al Bhagdadi looks exactly the same as Mossad agent Shimon Elliot, only with a beard. In fact the french press reported they were the same man:

    We all know they’re funded by Saudi Arabia (an ally of the US), and the equipment they use was provided by the US. We know that the UK & the US have been providing them with material support under the banner of the FSA for about 2 years.

    Who benefits from ISIS? Certainly arms dealers & Israel. I can’t think of anyone else… It’s suspiciously convenient for the US & UK’s stated aim of removing Assad from power – i.e. destroying Syria like they did Iraq, Afghanistan. Libya etc. That aim is illegal under international law, and would result in the murder of millions of Syrian people, many of them Christians.

    There can be only one conclusion: ISIS is secretly not a Muslim organisation, it’s actually Zionist.

    What do you think about Talmudic/Kabbalist Judaism and Zionism Marianne? Do you think they are dangerous ideologies too? How would they compare / relate to Islam in your view of the world?

    • Have few SIMPLE questions here…because the explanations you have given is the same stereo-typed comments given by some other people (Muslim???) like you too, whenever the same type of situation arises (i.e., similar in this case) in some other blogs.

      US is killing 49 people for each terrorist! I agree with you!!! But Why is US (or Zionists as you say) killing 49 civilians instead of terrorist in Pakistan and Why is Pakistan allowing that to be done??? Are there any other countries where US is “Unnecessarily” droning civilians, like Pakistan???

      Saudi Arabia is backing/funding ISIS which is killing innocent Christians & Muslims too! Right?
      Prophet Muhammad was born in Mecca (S. Arabia)…millions of people go to do hajj there (just like 20 millions this year). Hajj is the MOST religious custom for Muslims, right? So, being the birth place of the ONLY prophet of Islam, that place is funding deadly organization like ISIS (and don’t forget of Al-Qaeda, Hamas, etc.) to kill innocent people…that too including Muslims! WHY???

      Lastly, (this is a bit VAGUE question) among those 20 million hajj-ists, aren’t there anyone who know (like you) that they are visiting a place where its ruler/government is funding to kill innocent non-Muslims & Muslims in different countries? If yes, can’t they do anything…i.e., protesting, banning, etc.? What I am trying to say is, people are going to a place (in the name of religion) where that place is responsible for killing their own brothers (or innocent people)? Do you know how many innocent Muslims + non-Muslims are killed by ISIS, Hamas, Al-Qaeda etc., in the last 12 months (ONLY)?
      So, why is Arabia (birth place of Islam?) funding all these???

      Can you put some light on these?

    • ISIS is NOT zionist, or jewish…

      ISIS goal is to destroy Israel

      I think you are nuts

  19. Hi Confused.
    I only mentioned the Pakistan situation to show that on one hand Obama’s fine with indiscriminate killing, and on the other obsesses about a few clearly staged beheadings.

    If you trace the origins of all the western religions, they all have the same root – Kabbalah – i.e. Illuminism/Satanism. Islam, like Christianity, is a fabrication made up by Satanist Magi.

    You’ll find that Saudi Arabia is ruled by the Wahhabi sect, which is Kabbalist:
    (Tried to include some links – censored by WP. Please google: wahhabism judaism)

    I’ve just discovered that the ‘virgin-birth’ myth actually refers to the creation of ‘Satan’ by ‘Lucifer’. (Or the creation of the Demiurge by Sophia in Gnostisicm). And so by associating it with Jesus, the Kabbalists are making a(nother) joke at the expense of the uneducated Christians…

    The trouble with Christianity, and every religion, is they prevent people from doing their own research & thinking things through for themselves. And they stop people from acting, and doing what’s right, because they’re all waiting for ‘the saviour’ to return.

    From the Nag Hammadi texts it’s clear to me that Jesus did not say he was coming back. He did not preach Armageddon. Those things were added by the Kabbalists when they wrote the gospels.

    The whole idea of the destruction of the Earth is a Satanic fantasy – it’s not what God wanted.

    But the Christian religion has actually got it’s brainwashed-followers being HAPPY that the world is being destroyed, because they think that means ‘Jesus is coming soon’… (Even though Jesus in the Bible said he’d be back within that generation, and didn’t, and hasn’t in the intervening hundreds of generations.)

    They believe they are ‘saved’ because the priests told them they just had to idolise the man called Jesus, even though the Bible tells them specifically not to do that, and they sit back feeling superior while the world is destroyed, thinking they’ll be going to Heaven: It’s the exact same insanity as suicide-bombers.

    This is why Christianity is no better than Islam, because believers of both sets of lies do evil. By action or by negligence. In fact perhaps we can categorise the religions like that:

    Islam – the religion of war
    Christianity – the religion of negligence
    Judaism – the religion of narcissism
    Materialism – the religion of meaninglessness

    And all of the followers of those religions have one thing in common: Their self-righteousness.

  20. There are few Logic in your reply…can’t deny. 🙂
    Because, if history + current situation is considered, it is always the COMMON people and the COMMON people only (ALL religions/cast/creed), which gets the MOST screwing up 😉 , whether educated or uneducated. And it consists of minimum 80% of the whole population…past, present and maybe in the future too!

  21. God Help us!

    The Beast is bigger, more extensive, pervasive than Islam, da Pope (Rome) and “Zionist” (children of Dan).

    I’ve stated this before and here it is again.

    The GW Memorial is the largest Egyptian Obelisk on the planet, standing 555ft (6660 inches) with a base 666″ by 666″ – George Washington was not a Zionist!

    Buy a vowel, spin the wheel and think BIG.

    This is beyond Islam (simple) it is about The Beast.

    Psalm 70 applies.

  22. Thx DJ. 🙂
    Mystery Babylon, the Mystery Schools, Satanism, Illuminism, Kabbalah – all the same thing. It’s the religion of the Matrix/Mother/Matter/Goddess/Virgin. Known by hundreds of names such as ‘Queen of Heaven’, ISIS, Venus, Inanna…

    It’s the worship of the female creative principle as the creator, symbolised by the Cube/Christian Cross/Kaaba/Tefilin/Tree of Life.
    It’s an inversion of the truth, which is that the male is actually the creative principle, and the female is the substrate…

    It’s the rebellion of matter against spirit…

    This is why all ‘Abrahamic’ religions are so relentlessly materialistic in what they actually teach… It’s all about form, what you do, or what you say, the ‘outside of the cup’. None of them teach the need for (genuine) personal virtue, or the tools to attain it.

    None of these religions teach that *the ego is not you*, and that’s the first piece of knowledge you must have on the spiritual path. Without that knowledge, there is no spiritual path. All genuine teachings say that the elimination of the ego is the one and only task you’re here to achieve.

    Rev 21:7: “He that overcometh” HIS EGO “shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.”

    The ego is the ‘Satan’ in us. Ego is the anti-christ. Everyone is an anti-christ unless they overcome their ego.

    Blog: veritopian (dot) blogspot (dot) co (dot) uk

  23. Veritopian,

    Ego = Pride.

    This demonic spirit (Leviathan, monarch over pride) is number one on God’s list, while God hates discord among the brethren (Proverbs 6:16-19).

    Do you think the AntiChrist is a spiritual matter, only?

    If so, you are not helping to prepare the flock for what is about to manifest before their eyes.

    In the very near future, he (Barry) will be revealed as the son of perdition, The AntiChrist.

    “Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come.

    Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day [Day of the Lord, Joel chapter 2], will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he [Barry] sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God [Psalm 46:10, read by Barry on Sept. 11, 2011 for a reason beyond any 9/11 event].

    Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things?

    And now you know what is restraining, that he [Barry] may be revealed in his own time.

    For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming [Matthew 24:15-51].

    The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

    And for this reason God will send them strong delusion [done] that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness” (2nd Thess. 2:1-12).

    Men’s and women’s hearts will fail them, spiritually and literally.

    Their will (spiritually, their prideful hearts) will fail them. Also, the stress of what they thought that they would not see or take place will stress many to death. Many of these hearts (spiritual/literal) are Evangelical Pastors.

    The Lord tells His disciples then and today, “And there will be signs in the sun, in the moon, and in the stars; and on the earth distress of nations, with perplexity, the sea and the waves roaring; men’s hearts failing them from fear and the expectation of those things which are coming on the earth, for the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

    Then they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. Now when these things begin to happen, look up and lift up your heads, because your redemption draws near” (Luke 21:25-28, ESV).

    Psalm 37

  24. Veritopian,

    Oh! I just visited your blog.

    “It’s the rebellion of matter against spirit…”

    That’s a bit New Age in itself.

    I believe what you write and post is evidence that you have little or no intentions of preparing the Bride to overcome and endure until He comes. His bride is to be without spot or blemish.

    Why do I have this belief?

    Because you seem to freely blend New Age concepts (Mystery Babylon updated 20.14) with Theology (human thinking of a Devine God) and Biblical hermeneutics (Greek philosophy approach to the study of the Word of God).

    If I am wrong in my assessment, please explain where my assessment is in error.

    It’s not about you, personally. It’s about your belief construct (“rebellion of matter”).

    I’m not matter in rebellion.

    I’m created – body, soul and spirit. This understanding of the self is far more complex and precious than a complex “matter” New Age notion.

    I’m not matter – in rebellion or consonance with God.

    I’m created in the image and likeness of God, yes?

    So, is God matter?

    But, God created matter, yes?

    Did God create Himself?

    I do greatly matter to Him. Savvy?

    These questions above lead or these 2 questions.

    Are you a member of UGLE?

    Do you appreciate the wisdom of owls?

    Please, take your time in constructing a reply. College football is on and it’s my preferred form of entertainment for the remainder of the day.

    Time to break away from HA until maybe Monday.

    Psalm 64

  25. Hi DJ, thx for stopping by 🙂
    Freely blend is fair… But please don’t judge hastily.
    My approach to all this can be summarised by: “Seek the truth and it shall set you free”
    and “Truth fears no investigation”
    and “God helps those who help themselves”

    The only beliefs I have is that Jesus was born from the dead, and was a living son of God. Everything else is either knowledge or conjecture.

    I know God exists, and that we are to seek Him. That’s not a belief, for example…

    – I’m not matter in rebellion.
    – I’m not matter – in rebellion or consonance with God.

    No you are spirit in matter, which is in rebellion against spirit. This is what ‘Satan’ is – it’s why Satan rules the world, it’s why the Satanic religions worship the ‘Queen of Heaven’

    – I’m created – body, soul and spirit. This understanding of the self is far more complex and precious than a complex “matter” New Age notion.

    There are 4 levels: FAWE. E is matter, W is soul(emotion), A is mind, F is will.
    I know they exist because i experience them.

    – I’m created in the image and likeness of God, yes?

    Yes. What does that mean though? 😉

    – So, is God matter?
    – But, God created matter, yes?

    God made matter, like us, but he gave it free will too. Matter is Mater, the Goddess, God’s ‘wife’. There’s the active and passive principles: Will and matter. Male & Female – as we observe in all things.

    – Did God create Himself?

    No, the true creator is uncreated & eternal – the real ultimate Father.

    – I do greatly matter to Him. Savvy?

    Of course.

    – These questions above lead or these 2 questions. Are you a member of UGLE?
    – Do you appreciate the wisdom of owls?


    If you’d like to carry on the discussion- probably best on my blog… 😉

  26. i mean Jesus *is* a living son of God… not was. D’oh.

    • Yehoshua is not G-d! Today BBC found an picture of Yehoshua when Yehoshua has short hair andno beard. This is against the law before crucifixtion. G-D does not sin. To cut beard or cut hair as a priest is a sin.

  27. Denise,

    Pale as written in Revelation is a shade of green (Greek translation).

    Check out this page below – one of my early efforts on HA. Its more of a third draft than a final product.

    Best to read into the comments and get the full representation of the colors: white, red, black, and pale (green).

    “Is it just a coincidence that each of the 4 horses in John’s revelation are given a specific color (white, “fiery red”, black and “pale”)? The identification of horse an rider are sent out with specific objectives.

    Could it be that there is a correlation or relevance with 4 colors representing the great Arabic political, military, social and religious powers throughout the history of Islam, known as Caliphates?”


    • Holy Moly, DJ, that is a lot to take in on the first-4-seals-of-revelations/, not just your posting of the historical, political, and social parallels, but everybody’s comments afterwards. While reading your post I kept hearing in my own head, “Arab Spring” as if people are trying to pick up history where it left off about 500 years or so ago.

      Wanna see what someone else wrote in brief???
      Take a peek:

      I need to read your post over again . . . and I agree, I don’t think it is just a bit of coincidence with the colors.

      And, in the end? As much as my brain loves to figure stuff out, sometimes I have to humble myself, let go, and focus on my relationship with the Lord. But, I sure love delving into this stuff.



      OK, back to the game 18 – 17, yikes, only up by 1 point into the 3rd quarter

    • Holy Moly, DJ, that is a lot to take in reading the first-4-seals-of-revelations/, not just your posting of the historical, political, and social parallels, but everybody’s comments afterwards. While reading your post I kept hearing in my own head, “Arab Spring” as if people are trying to pick up history where it left off about 500 years or so ago.

      Wanna see what someone else wrote in brief??? I just “happened” to come across it –
      Take a peek:

      I need to read your post over again . . . and I agree, I don’t think it is just a bit of coincidence with the colors.

      And, in the end? As much as my brain loves to figure stuff out, sometimes I have to humble myself, let go, and focus on my relationship with the Lord. But, I sure love delving into this stuff.



      OK, back to game, 18-17 into 3rd quarter

    • Holy Moly, DJ, that is a lot to take in, reading first-4-seals-of-revelations/, not just your posting of the historical, political, and social parallels, but everybody’s comments afterwards. While reading your post I kept hearing in my own head, “Arab Spring” as if people are trying to pick up history where it left off about 500 years or so ago.

      Wanna see what someone else wrote in brief??? I just “happened” to come across it.
      Take a peek:

      I need to read your post over again . . . and I agree, I don’t think it is just a bit of coincidence with the colors.

      And, in the end? As much as my brain loves to figure stuff out, sometimes I have to humble myself, let go, and focus on my relationship with the Lord. But, I sure love delving into this stuff.



      sorry if you all are getting multiple copies, this is the last time for now I will post until I figure out why, when I send, the post doesn’t “stick”


  28. OK, something is weird, my posts aren’t posting. 😦

  29. Holy Moly, DJ, that is a lot to take in, reading first-4-seals-of-revelations/, not just your posting of the historical, political, and social parallels, but everybody’s comments afterwards. While reading your post I kept hearing in my own head, “Arab Spring” as if people are trying to pick up history where it left off about 500 years or so ago.

    Wanna see what someone else wrote in brief??? I just “happened” to come across it.
    Take a peek:

    I need to read your post over again . . . and I agree, I don’t think it is just a bit of coincidence with the colors.

    And, in the end? As much as my brain loves to figure stuff out, sometimes I have to humble myself, let go, and focus on my relationship with the Lord. But, I sure love delving into this stuff.



  30. Oops!!! It seems…now its Holland’s turn 😮
    Islamic State fears take hold in Netherlands!!!

  31. Denise – excellent link you provided. Very “graphic” ~ easy to see.

    You got the message – the first 4 seals are related to Islam (rebellion).

    The 4th seal includes WW3 (IMO) with Death and Hades following after him.

    Him? Who’dat?

    Barry, who road out on a white horse with his crown (peace prize), conquering and to concur as the first gay, Islamic President of the first Masonic government (1776) dedicate to establishing a NWO (see the Great Seal of the US) when the capstone is placed upon the pyramid in 2016.

    I agree – this is info overload.

    We need to focus on personally comprehending Rev 12:11 and Psalm 34.

    “The eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous
    and his ears toward their cry.
    The face of the Lord is against those who do evil,
    to cut off the memory of them from the earth.

    When the righteous cry for help, the Lord hears
    and delivers them out of all their troubles.
    The Lord is near to the brokenhearted
    and saves the crushed in spirit.

    Many are the afflictions of the righteous,
    but the Lord delivers him out of them all.
    He keeps all his bones;
    not one of them is broken.

    Affliction will slay the wicked,
    and those who hate the righteous will be condemned.
    The Lord redeems the life of his servants;
    none of those who take refuge in him will be condemned” (Psalm 34:15-22, ESV).

    And now for something completely different…. Az Wildcats jump to #10 in AP poll!! Wow!

    Trojan boys come to Tucson this Saturday night, ESPN2.

    Sell out, rowdy crowd like they have not had in years will be ready to support these Wildcats!

    Bears are getting some love too.

    Psalm 34

    • “And now for something completely different…. Az Wildcats jump to #10 in AP poll!! Wow!”

      Isn’t football a (the) great distraction – how about those final seconds for Arizona over USC on their final play of a Hail Mary! 🙂

      49ers won today, too, over the Chiefs.

      Too tired to read much more tonite, will do more this week.

      (Sorry about all the repeated posts)

  32. Denise,

    I saw all your posts. 🙂

    Yup. That is no coincident – Arab Rebellion (White, Red, Black, Green/Pale) matches the colors of the four horses of Revelation in the same order. Thank you, Lord.

    Even the historical footprint of the 4 Islamic Empires matches up with the 4 objective/mission of the 4 horse/riders of Revelation.

    Islam is horse/rider of the Anti-Christ and the NWO initiative moves through The Beast (worldwide system/organization).

    Thanks for this link – I thought nobody else saw what I found in the Arab Rebellion Flag.

    Psalm 34

  33. That’s an interesting link with the flags. It makes a lot of sense.

    The problem with Bible prophesy is that it’s publicly available – and so the PTB have had 2000 years in which to plot and plan and *make* the prophesy come true…

    We have to bear in mind the PTB are the Satanists, the Kabbalists, who in all likelihood actually wrote the Bible, Koran, Talmud, Canon Law etc etc. and invented *all* religions. All religions serve Satan.

    The book of Revelation, for example, is basically a rewrite of some of the Sibylline Oracles: “These books were destroyed, partially in a fire in 83 B.C.E., and finally burned by order of the Roman General Flavius Stilicho (365-408 C.E.).” (Wiki)
    They were probably burned by the RCC to hide the plagiarism of the NT.

    So the implications is it’s not God’s plan, and never was, it’s the Satanists’ plan to destroy the world – not God’s, but God is allowing to happen because people actually want it! “Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it…”

    This is the DANGER of Christianity – is it has people actually believing that the destruction of the world is good and inevitable! I’ve heard Christians say “All this destruction is good because it must mean Jesus is coming back soon”. It’s a very dangerous belief.

    If all the Christians of the world actually did what Jesus commanded, and acted like him, all wars would stop today. Real Christians would stop the authorities from their evil – like Jesus did with the money lenders in the temple. He acted.

    What does MEEK mean? From Strong’s Concordance:
    4235 práos – meek, i.e. the necessary balance of exercising power and avoiding harshness.

    • revelation is NOT a rewrite of some oracle…..

      it is an expansion of the books of daniel, joel, ezechiel, and zechariah written long before your oracle…..

      logically, if the oracle was burned then it could not be copied.

      you have a problem with unbelief

  34. Marianne, I believe our belief should be with the Creator and not with the creation. The Bible is not the creator, it’s a creation.

    We have to use our own discernment, and it is obvious that the Bible is not the unadulterated word of God. Just take the Jesus vs Paul problem in the NT for example. It does contain truth, but it’s not all truth, there are a lot of false-doctrines in there – a lot.

    If we’re told to trust no man, how can it be logical to trust a book, written by men? If we know the world is ruled by Satan, how can we believe the Bible wasn’t influenced by Satan? That’s illogical.

    There will be copies, if not the originals, of the Oracles in the Vatican. Also they were ‘burned’ chronologically after the NT was cobbled together.

    The Bible does contain good stuff, but without discernment it’s worse than useless.

    With all due respect, if you feel the Bible is a better source of information than asking God direct, and using the senses we’re given by Him to discern the truth for ourselves, then it’s you that has a problem with unbelief. Ie. you don’t believe your own senses – which is how God communicates with you – so you don’t believe the God that is right in front of your face.

    You shouldn’t mistake faith in religion with love of God, and if you trust a book more than your God-given senses, then you don’t love God, you love a belief instead.

    When we use the phrase “Does it make sense” – it demonstrates that logic / intellect is a sense – and we have to listen to it. Too much of the Bible does not make sense, so we have to use our own senses.

    God doesn’t want people to abandon logic, thought, common sense. He wants people to use their own senses to find His truth themselves, and not just believe things that other people tell them.

    You can ONLY be deceived if you don’t think things through for yourself!

    • I think for myself…..but senses can deceive us….

      so far, I have found the bible to be true….and God does use it to speak to me…

      that is not the only way he communicates, because there are also dreams and visions, and the inner voice, which is the holy spirit…but nothing he has told me has contradicted the bible in my 40 years.

      show me the false doctrines in the bible.

    • You have few valid/logical points here…no doubts! 😉

  35. This is the blasphemy of ‘St Paul’ (and hence the church):

    To have people worship/believe/follow government/church instead of God… Government is a false God, an Idol.

    Earthly government breaks (at least) the first three commandments!

    The church tells it’s followers to follow government, that it is ‘authorised’ by God, but that’s not what Jesus taught.

    Jesus says. Money belongs to Caesar, but you belong to God.
    Give all your money back to Caesar, give all of yourself to God.

    Matthew 22:21
    Therefore render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.

    Paul says: You belong to Caesar. He represents God.

    Romans 13:1
    Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God

    Jesus says they represent Satan, not God:

    John 8:44
    You are of your father the devil, and your will is to do your father’s desires.

    Jesus says: Be true to God, not earthly authorities:

    Thomas 6
    Jesus said, “Do not lie, and do not do what you hate. For all things are disclosed before heaven…”

    The lie of the legitimacy of government is what it’s all about: Making people slaves. God forbade mankind from making their own laws because he knew Satan’s psychopathic children would end up in charge…

    • I think if you stick with what jesus actually said, it would be better….MATT 22:21

      he did not necessarily condemn the local government… he just said give it its due.

      and it has to be true that God allows everything that happens….evil governments come when the people are evil…so they get what they deserve…

      while the government may be ruled by satan, God is allowing it because of our iniquity and sins.

      so we need to also set a good example before governments and unbelievers what the TRUTH of God really is, and work to bring righteousness back into the county.

      I can only speak for my own country…which is now a sewer of immorality and corruption….what we have in our government now is our punishment from God…..which means, as your Paul said, the leaders authority did come from god….not for our good, but for our demise.

  36. I’m sorry Marianne, what was the problem with Matt 22:21?
    I just cut & pasted it.
    Where did Jesus say give local government it’s due?
    In that quote he doesn’t say render some of caesars money to him, he implies all of it – especially if you look at the context.

    • yes …we render unto cesear what is his….so we have to give him what he wants because of his kind of civil authority over us

      but scripture also says that we obey as long as it does not violate our biblical principles…

      we cannot obey both God and man, when they disagree…it is then that civil disobedience is justified.

      • Well, that’s a Paulian interpretation, but it doesn’t add up… Jesus can’t have meant that because government ALWAYS violates biblical principles… As I pointed out – it violates the first 3 of the 10 commandments minimum.

        If the early Christians had believed what Paul taught, i.e. submit to authority, then why would the Romans have persecuted them, what threat did they pose? And what would the Christians have been fighting for? The Romans didn’t really care which god they worshiped, they were extremely cosmopolitan about religion. That wasn’t the threat…

        It’s because the early Christians rejected Rome’s right to rule, they knew government is a Satanic fraud. They didn’t work for money, and so couldn’t be taxed. They lived in cooperative communities, and weren’t slaves to the empire. They threatened to undermine the whole system of earthly hierarchies, kings and priests.

        That was why they were relentlessly persecuted – not for some abstract ideal – but for money and power. True Christians would not be slaves!

        This is true Christianity – living free & independent of the Satanic state, worshiping God, and loving our neighbors. This is what Jesus taught – and that’s why they’ve gone to such lengths to conceal it.

        So Jesus absolutely did teach separation from the state. And the church’s whole purpose is to cover that fact up… Which is why Paul’s teachings are included, and Jesus’s were heavily edited into the gospels…

        • in rome’s case, there were issues of civil disobedience….and other times, they obey, as in paying taxes….the christians did not reject rome’s right to rule….they had no power to do that….and christians had jobs…where did you get the idea that they did not work for money?

          christians did not fit in….so they were persecuted.

        • Christians and Jews refused to worship the ruler of Rome as a god.

          It’s kind of like the Christians and Jews under the followers of Sin right now. Believe in my god of the Kaaba, or off with your head.

          • A god is defined by it’s ability to make laws. That’s what gods do. To accept government’s right to make laws is worship…

            The original Christians couldn’t accept Rome’s rule because it’s blasphemy to do so. There’s no doubt about that. Accepting any earthly government over God is blasphemy. You can’t serve two masters.

  37. Personally I believe the only thing The only thing People need to know about the Qur’an
    Is that it teaches that God has no Son
    That alone damns it to hell forever

    • there are other things….like it is good to know that muslims are allowed to kill unbelievers and chop their heads off, and not to marry one, because they will force you to convert or kill you….and if you are female, it is good to know the men can marry you as a child, rape you, and then divorce you, or falsely accuse you of infidelity and then have you killed.

    • It teaches my god of the Kabba has no son. Therefore, it is of this world system.

  38. Rome didn’t have the right to rule, it just assumed it – that’s the point. It rules by violence, not right. So the Christians absolutely did have the right to reject their rule.

    It’s necessary to read between the lines. The BBC is a notoriously poor source for accurate info BTW… They can’t give solid reasons for the persecution. Because they “didn’t fit in” isn’t enough – how *exactly* didn’t they fit in?

    Christians don’t work for money – that was Jesus’s commandment to the disciples. If you *love* your neighbor you don’t charge him – it’s simple.

  39. Really, Marianne. I would like to know as well where it says we should not work for a living.

    “2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. 11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. 12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.”

  40. I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear…
    Jesus didn’t say disciples shouldn’t work – he said they shouldn’t use money.

    • where did he say that? only if they went somewhere, they were supposed to just depend on charity of others..while they were home, they worked, and had jobs….like fishing…..when temple tax was due, they had to use money to pay it….

      later on, when some members were in need, they took up offerings to help them out ( money)

  41. Here’s one reference: (Luke 22:35) Then Jesus asked them, “When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?” “Nothing,” they answered.

    Have you ever considered the possibility of a world without money Marianne? It can be quite hard to imagine at first…

    You know that ‘Mammon’ can be translated as ‘Money’…

    • yes I know….they lacked nothing on their trip….but in daily life, back at home…they needed money like everyone else.

      • People don’t need money, per se, they need the things money buys. Many societies have lived without money.

        Do you not think it’s possible that money itself may be unnecessary, even a problem?

        I would ask you again: Have you ever considered the possibility of a world without money?

        • In Matthew 22:19-21 Jesus asks to be shown the “tribute” money, and He holds out the penny, and states to render to Caesar that which is Caesar’s and render to God what is God’s. Caesar is represented in a whole penny! God has an entire kingdom. How small Caesar is when compared to God.

          Prior to that, in Matthew 17, when Jesus enters Capernaum, those who collect the tribute money approach Jesus questioning him to pay it. Jesus wants to know if kings also take from children and strangers, then tells Peter to cast a hook and catch a fish, open the mouth of the fish and there you will find the money to pay “for me and for thee.” How small the kings are that their due can be found in the mouth of a fish!

          Societies have long managed without “money” – they trade services and goods. It is called the barter system. Some small segments of society have brought back the barter bank in today’s society, also known as the time bank, where everyone’s time is equal. An hour of an attorney’s time is equal to and hour’s time of a gardener. It is one’s time that is valuable in trading one’s skills.


        • do YOU live without money?

          if so, what is your secret of success?

    • I will appreciate it if you stop sending me email on Islam. thanx Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:23:40 +0000 To:

  42. G-d made man and placed him to work in the garden. We are not suppose to love money, but use what we earn wisely. A cow is worth something. A tomato is worth something. We use money to exchange goods and services.

    Christians did not think Rome should not rule, they simply did not worship Cesar as a god. They can only worship G-d the Father in Christ’s name.

    Notice how the Beast will cause all both small and great to worship him, or his image. Just like the old days.

  43. Marianne,

    Do you think we are witnessing a seal being opened with the current situation in he world of war and sickness spreading?

    • Since the year 2000 the economy (national and global) is headed toward the toilet; there is famine and death; drought and death; tornadoes, typhoons, hurricanes and death; pestilence and death; war and death, where many are literally dying by the sword, beheaded; earthquakes, tidal waves, volcanoes and death.

      However, when on this earth since Adam & Eve ate from the tree of knowledge did these things not exist?

      In the Gospel of Matthew (24), Jesus is asked what will be the sign of His coming and of the end of the world … and He answers that there will be wars (and rumors of wars) nation will rise against nation, famines, pestilences, earthquakes … these will come to pass. The end is not yet but all of these are the beginning of sorrows. There will be inequity, many will be offended, betrayed, hated, and many false prophets will deceive many.

      Matthew 24:14 “And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” (KJV)

      (Are we there, yet?)

      More importantly, are we ready, yet? Are we prepared?

      I know the question is directed to Marianne.
      Just my two cents.


    • the way I see it, each seal will open in succession…seal 1, then seal 2, etc.

      however, the groundwork for each and every seal is already open..which is what we see now….

      consider the doors partly open on each seal…and things starting to happen with each one…. like a slow “leak” of events

      then soon, I think, the doors for seal 1, then seal 2 then seal 3 etc will fly open in succession, and the events will occur rapidly.. like beads falling off a string

  44. Interesting. Thanks.

  45. This reply Is for Denise
    Satan cannot get an advantage over me
    Because I am NOT ignorant of his devices
    That has nothing to do with me knowing the Quran And The
    Hadith And that history of Muhammad
    I just threw that in
    I only believe the Holy Bible

  46. I understand now, RB, thank you for the clarification.


  47. Really it’s about competition vs cooperation…

    – In a trading economy people work to enrich themselves. Some people are rich, and some poor.

    – In a gift economy people work to enrich their neighbors. So everyone is rich, (materially and emotionally).

    Jesus said: Love your neighbor. He taught cooperation, and spoke against competition.
    If I love someone, do I attempt to profit off them? No, I give freely, out of love…

    I do live without money as much as possible, and I give away my work for free…

    After much investigation, I’ve come to the conclusion that money is one of Satan’s cleverest deceptions. Jesus spoke against ‘Mammon’ on many occasions… Jesus wanted us to stop competing, and start cooperating.

    The happiest and best societies have been gift-economies. The culture becomes one of ‘out-gifting’ your neighbors, generosity is valued more than wealth, and everyone is secure.

    • not everyone has the luxury of trading for what they want or receiving gifts in order to pay for their rent, electricity, water and food.

      gifts initially come from somewhere, maybe purchased…money is still needed.

  48. Marianne,

    So when did the first seal (as a door, partially open), begin to open.

    Same for the second, and third – as doors that are partially open but will swing open wide and swing open in order, of course.

    • that is debatable…we could say the last century or with 911…but about 2008…..with the last election they really started to open….I am waiting for the abomination of desolation…at that point all gates will be wide open.

  49. DJ – There is a YouTube video I have seen which believes the seals are, not partially, but are open now, and correlates such global events as WWII, Israel becoming a state, Vietnam, Chernobyl, Saddam Hussein setting 700 oil wells on fire. I don’t agree with how this site “connects the dots” but it does bring up some interesting comparisons. (It’s not even clear to me who put the video together.)

    (White horseman = USA; Red horseman = Japan; Black horseman = USSR; Pale horseman = Germany The fifth seal opened was the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki)

    I think they are too quick to connect and I believe that what is coming before us will be even much worse than these events. Well, you can watch and see for yourself all the seals they claim to connect with events. It ends with the 7th trumpet yet to be blown.

    I warn you, this is only about 15 minutes long, but the deformities of children shown are horrendous, and the suffering of those starving (during the Holocaust), you wonder how they are still breathing.

    Also, time to time in the video there is some real small print that is hard to read, sometimes off to the side, which doesn’t stay up for long. I had to constantly pause the video.


    • Denise,

      Ya, those events are horrific but that interpretation doesn’t fit the complete picture of “the last days” and the “end of the age” that matches up with the timeline Jesus gives in Matthew 24 -25, along with what we read in 2nd Thessalonians and other signs (Joel 2:31 and Rev. 12:1-5) and “clues” throughout Scriptures.

      The Arab Revolt flag and all those Islamic flags do fit the colors of the Revelation horse/rider and seals to a tee. The first seal opened with Barry.

      The producers of the video probably didn’t consider the following, which is the opening of the 1st Seal.

      Barry rode out, receiving the nomination for President of the first Masonic nation in Denver upon a stage designed to represent the seat of Zeus (Seat of Satan). Then Barry’s first speech before the UN was on 09/09/09 (flip those 9s). A few weeks later, Barry received a crown (prize) for peace on Feasts of Tabernacles (October 8, 2009). Within a year Barry held secret peace talks with all relevant/required parties in Washington DC during September, 2010. He holds Islam in very high regard, treasuring the culture. The message inscribed upon his wedding band is an indication of his affection to Allah more than to Michael (Michele).

      Also, the sign in the heavens of Rev. 12:1-5 occurred on Feasts of Tabernacles, 2011. This heavenly sign is clearly evident as one of the signs of His soon return. They probably don’t realize it occurred as a heavenly sign.

      I’m confident in what I’m posting is on target (seal 1-3 open and seal 4 is about to open) – except for a couple addendums:

      1) I was expecting the US Dollar to collapse or no longer be the world currency standard by now. This specific economic event – well, there was expectations by a few investors for Fall of 2012. I thought this would be part of the opening of the black horse and 3rd seal (economic/inflation).

      The black horse and 3rd seal is open within the “region” of Israel. The word “earth” is a KJ translation issue just like the red horse and seal 2 is “region” or “terrine” not assumed to be world wide (“earth”).

      I really hoped/prayed there would be a significant economic event, shaking up the Evangelical US Church (mostly filled with the likes of Laodiceans and Thyatira).

      The economic event to shake up the Evangelical Church (501c3, non-profit, tithes driven assembly of members) seems to be tied to what will occur with Rev. 18 (NYC / USA).

      Clue – read what the merchants do in response to watching the city (NYC) destroyed in one hour. Merchants would not be that upset with Rome burning, again (Nero).

      2) I was expecting the Ark of the Covenant to be brought forth in the month of Nisan (March/April), 2013. My expectation for this is difficult to explain within this reply.

      But, The Ark will be brought forth soon enough to fulfill Romans 11:25-26,

      “For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. And so all Israel will be saved…”

      Right now, today – I’m waiting for NYC to receive a nuke and for the Ark to come forth.

      When the Ark comes forth, then there is an opportunity for an “abomination” event to occur upon the altar of The Ark of the Covenant.

      Soon the virgins awaken; “And at midnight a cry was heard: ‘Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!’” (Matthew 25:6).

      Then, everyone who is a “Christian” applies Rev. 12:11 and key passages within Psalm 34 with enough “oil in their vessel” overcoming and enduring until He comes (Matthew 24:19-21).


      BTW – USC is picked to defeat the Wildcats this Saturday night by 3 points. Fine.

      This confidence in USC by professional bookies adds some motivation for my team; Arizona Wildcats gets no respect once again. It will be earned on the field.

      Reminds me a lot of Rodney Dangerfield.

      I’d post a very funny Dangerfield YouTube clip, but it’s not proper on HA. 🙂

      Rev. 12:11

      • DJ – I wonder sometimes when you ever manage to sleep. 🙂 You are a wealth of information. I love connecting the dots. And . . . . . Sometimes I have to step back or I lose sight of the picture. For me, as for connecting the dots, I have to leave for God or I lose focus. I don’t have to have it all figured out (God will take care of that.) But it sure can get interesting!

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  51. Wow?

    With all you’ve posted, including many dreams and page topic after page topic, links to Daniel’s Timeline and other links, plus your commentary – that was an unusual answer.

    Who’s not waiting for an abomination or the revealing of the son-of-perdition.

    Who’s not waiting for the virgins to awaken?

    Oh well, thanks for your answer.

    Psalm 34

    • I am not saying this is the answer….there is so much we all think we understand, and yet there is so much we don’t yet…..for those who are awake, all we can do is keep watching….maybe we are wrong or right at first, but eventually it will all unfold completely

      I see candidates for seal 1
      I see war…is that enough?
      I see inflation and rising costs with a crashing economic system
      I see disease and pestilance spreading..
      I see marytrdom, esp with ISIS…

      how much worse will it get?
      While I think i know, it could be much worse.
      how soon will it get worse?

      I keep thinking any moment now…then there is no big change… I wait some more.

      all we can do is prepare and pray….the events are unfolding rapidly….but how fast is fast?

      I am not in a hurry for things to speed up….yet at some point it will…I have unsaved loved ones to be concerned about….and they need more time…but I do not know how it will go for them….

      I have seen myself in FEMA camp several times in dreams, yet I am not there yet…so more has to happen.

      you will know when I am gone, but I will not answer comments anymore, if the power is still on.

    • DJ,

      The tone in which you have written Marianne is the problem people have with you from time to time.

      Unless you are 100% correct in your understanding of the seals, please show your support to others who might not believe as you do. Plus, just write why you believe as you do and leave your sarcasm out of it.

      Most of time my beliefs parallel yours DJ, but I support and respect other Christians that may have a different view.

      Perhaps, Marianne’s understanding is given to her by G-d. I don’t know, but I am willing to listen.

      BTW, I know I have issues too. Mainly with the moon god worshipers, but I’m working at it.

    • DJ – I wanted to say something also – but others here probably know you better than I (which is really not at all.) You just seem a little more curt than your usual self, which sometimes can be funny, but now, just downright disrespectful.

      I wanted to ask you, are you OK? Is something difficult going on in your life right now (you don’t have to share) – I just want you to know that even I have noticed a change, and, I care. I hope you are OK.

      • Denise,

        Actually, I would like to share – but it’s not a good place/page to do so.

        The spiritual “stuff” going on is amazing to observe and experience.

        “Now may the God of peace who brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, the great shepherd of the sheep, by the blood of the eternal covenant, equip you, me and Believers reading this reply with everything good that we may do His will, working in us that which is pleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ, to whom be glory forever and ever. Amen” (Hebrews 13:20-21).

        • “Peace I leave with you, my peace I give to you, not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, nor let it be afraid.” (John 14:27)

  52. God bless you Leatherneck. You comment to me is accepted as given.

    Let me provide some background on this open forum.

    I asked a question because the statement offered (“doors”) is ambiguous, considering the years of pages, posts, dreams, links and commentary within this blog.

    A few folks follow comments within pages. This one regarding doors slowing opening (seals) then those same doors (seals), opening rapidly is out of the left field bleachers, considering all the posts.

    So the answer given to my question was not up to par, in my opinion.

    My attitude, sure.

    You understand attitude.

    You’re a Marine, telling me to man up (able to shoot to defend or kill) once before. Okay. We’ll deal with that when the time comes. I’d quote Scripture and personal interpretation given me on that topic – but its personal.

    Look, another “Blood Moon” occurs this week.

    Less than 12 months until the last of this most unique series, which many folks see as the sign before the Day of the Lord (Joel 2:31).

    If those folks who see this as the sign of the last days (along with other signs and interpretations) then what??

    You’re preparing your side arm and tactical weapons.

    Some need to prepare for what is coming with “solid food” and understand what “sufficient oil in the vessel” is before the next “door” opens and Monti Hall calls for what’s under the box next to Carol.

    Time is short and clarity is needed not doors with ambiguity.

    Just my opinion – given with attitude so not to be overlooked.

    Psalm 20

    • I don’t think I wrote man up and I understand as Christians we are suppose to be peaceful. I don’t want war. I don’t want to hurt anyone.

      I understand the seals being swollen is not what we normally read. I don’t have a problem with asking for clarification.

      For me DJ, I use to wonder if sending evil men to G-d was a bad thing as it causes good men to have blood on their hands. I don’t think I will be able to stand and watch my wife and child suffer without doing something about it. I think G-d will understand.

      If I am standing next to you when evil men ask us to renounce Christ, or get our heads cut off, I’m not going to not renounce Christ and then I will give them a chance to leave. A lot of folks are not like me and I understand everyone is not a big ugly Jarhead armed to the teeth. They, as well as I , need the word for strength.

  53. Wonder what is the main subject/title of discussion in this page! Islam or Christianity? 😆

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    . . .
    Malala, Satyarthi win Nobel Peace Prize!

  57. Denise,

    What your reading from me is an accumulation of what He led me to understand over 4 years. He downloads on me via the Spirit of Truth. It comes relatively easier, faster these days.

    This may be a factor.

    6 months ago I met a person with the gift of prophecy.

    When you honor a prophet you receive a prophets reward, says the Word.

    I appreciate the gift given her and we meet weekly for 4 hours; prayer, reading the Word, sharing and talking. It is a blessing indeed.

    Anyway, back in Feb 2011 – I asked the Lord to explain Matthew 24 and Mark 16: 17-18.

    This was the day after I quit working, lived off savings for 9+ months in order to focus on what He’s called me to do. There were days of fasting and prayer – week after week. Serious application of Psalm 25.

    Since January 2011 – I’ve experienced deliverance from demonic oppression, ministered deliverance, confronted witches/voodoo queens in 4 churches or Bible studies, and more.

    Thank you Lord.

    Today – I work a 3rd shift job, spending free time reading, study the Word and asking Him questions. I do understand and apply “testing the spirits.”

    What seems to be occurring now – it seems to be confirmation of a certain topic (The Beast) from a variety of sources. I asked Him about The Beast several months ago.

    Like I wrote you before – there were a couple of assumptions I’ve made, trying to get details “on my own.”

    I’m not bragging. This brief “resume” of experience is shared with you – so you may not think I’m posting commentary bs. What I think I know is shared from the above perspective.

    Marianne invite me to post a page in 2011, “How do the Sheep Prepare” after I’m interpreted a dream she posted related to two flocks of sheep.


    Others folks share/post with a different perspective, believing they are hearing Truth from the Spirit.

    God bless them!

    There are a several good football game today – I need a break.

    Thank you Lord for college football and basketball. ;

    God bless you.
    Hebrews 13:20-21

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    (Interesting read, especially the comments…just sharing).

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  61. Parents Frantic As Public Schools Indoctrinating Students In Islam And Sharia! 😦

    • this is happening to a friend of mine….I told her to tell them that teaching a specific religion is offensive to her and violates separation of church and state… is PUSHING Islam on her kid

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  64. animal palestinians celebrate violence


  66. This ministry (Back to Jerusalem) is led by Brother Yun (“The Heavenly Man”).

    In the linked article we read –

    “Some people feel that targeting ISIS with the Gospel sounds completely insane to those that do not understand the power of the Gospel. ‘God chose the foolish things of the world, that He might put to shame them that are wise’ (1 Corinthians 1:27, written by Paul).

    The Bible teaches that, outside of the blood of Jesus, I am no better than the worst jihadist of ISIS. Jesus taught that when a man thinks evil thoughts in his mind, he has already sinned.

    By the measuring stick of righteousness as Jesus introduced, I have been a murderer, a blasphemer, an adulterer, a liar, and a thief and those are just the ones that I am willing to admit on paper.

    Most of the sins that I have conjured up in my own mind I would not whisper in an empty room by myself with the lights off. The actions of my thoughts are just as bad, and at times worse, than those of ISIS.

    However, deep down in my being is the existence of the image of God. The image of God does not just merely mean that we look like Him, but that we are “like” Him. We have inherited His characteristics. The ideas and concepts of justice, sin, love, affection, desire, creativity, are all attributes that we have inherited from our Creator.

    We have Him in our DNA. Those characteristics of God in our lives may not always be apparent, but under the thick crusty layers of sin, they are there and has the power to convict us as it does the members of ISIS.

    You can partner with BTJ today by clicking here and donating to the effort” (Back to Jerusalem.)

    Psalm 40

    • If you are lead by G-d to spread the gospel to these Sunni moon god lovers I wish anyone who does so all the best.

      I am confident G-d has someone in mind to do so. I wish I was strong enough and brave enough, but G-d has put in my heart to not trust them and keep them a long way off.

      If they surrender to a A-10 Wart Hog, then maybe you could get a few verses into their brainwashed brains.

      Good luck,

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    sexual pleasures as sexual touching and hugs and tafkhid (massage sex between her thighs) is not prohibited even if she is
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    Tahrir al-wasilah, vol.2, sid.231

    A religion for pedophiles

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