Judge is at the Door – Signs in the Heavens

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A conjunction of Venus and Jupiter in Leo 90 days before the Blood Moon of Feast of Tabernacles, 2015.

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By DJ Maxwell

JUNE 30, 2015 – "The Judge is at the door" (James 5:9).

Jeremiah 10:2 tells us, “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them" (NKJV).

On June 30th, Jupiter and Venus were at their peak conjunction BEFORE Leo (Judah).

The last time Jupiter and Venus were at their peak conjunction was BELOW Leo on

June 17, 2BC ~ the 17th of Tammuz.

He turned a day of sorrow into a day of great JOY! This would be the sign of His birth. 

The sign of His conception was conjunction of Regulus (King Star) and Jupiter WITHIN Leo.

This occurred on September 11, 3BC ~ Feast of Tabernacles.

Life begins at conception, yes?

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This heavenly sign of June 30th is EXACTLY 90 days before the Blood Moon over Jerusalem on Feast of Tabernacles, September 28, 2015 (Hebrew year 5776).

There is no significance to June 30, 2015 on the Hebrew calendar or in Hebrew history.

However, this is a very important sign in the heavens, occurring 90 days before the last Blood Moon (Joel 2, Amos 5, Rev. 6:12).

The Blood Moon over Jerusalem on Feast of Tabernacles is the last of 4 Blood Moons on Hebrew Feast days (2014-15).

The 4 Blood Moons occurred on either Passover or Feast of Tabernacles (2014-15). Those 4 occurrences covered all time zones worldwide.

The last occurrence will be seen over Jerusalem on September 28, 2015.

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90 "days" is 9 x 10.

9 symbolize divine completeness or finality. It marks the end and issue of all things as to man — the judgment of man and all his works (

thankGodforJesus.org).


10 is a number viewed as a complete and perfect number (
thankGodforJesus.org).

Therefore, "Behold, the Judge is at the door" (James 5:9). 

If you would like to see more on the significant signs in the heavens – this link may be helpful. Within this link you will see the heavenly sign that told the wise men of His conception and the sign of His birth.

You can also see the sign of Rev. 12:1-5, which occurred on September 29, 2011 – Feast of Trumpets.

There is also a very special sign in the heavens on September 23, 2017 ~ Shabbat Shuvah.

"Shabbat Shuvah ("Sabbath [of] Return" שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates.

This Shabbat is named after the first word of the Haftarah (Hosea 14:2-10) and literally means "Return!"

It is perhaps a play on, but not to be confused with, the word Teshuvah (the word for repentance)."

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-in-the-heavens/

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There is no doubt in my mind when applying Jeremiah 10:2 that He is at the door as Judge. 


At this time 2nd Tim 2:7-13 and Rev. 12:11 are critical to comprehend and apply.

Paul explains, "Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

Keep your attention on Jesus Christ as risen from the dead and descended from David…God’s message is not bound.

This is why I endure all things for the elect: so that they also may obtain salvation, which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.

This saying is trustworthy: ‘For if we have died with Him, we will also live with Him; if we endure, we will also reign with Him; if we deny Him, He will also deny us; if we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself’" (2 Timothy 2:7-13, HCSB).  

John tells us,

“They conquered him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, for they did not love their lives in the face of death" (Revelation 12:11, HCSB).

“Now the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him— those who depend on His faithful love to deliver them from death and to keep them alive in famine.

We wait for Yahweh; He is our help and shield. For our hearts rejoice in Him because we trust in His holy name.

May Your faithful love rest on us, Yahweh, for we put our hope in You" (Psalm 33:18-22, HCSB).

Marianne’s note:

The last time this sign was in the sky, the Messiah was born. Does this sign repeated now indicate we will see Messiah’s return?


619 Responses to “Judge is at the Door – Signs in the Heavens”

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    • “And God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years…” (Gen. 1:14, ESV).

      “Thus says the Lord:

      ‘Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them'” (Jerimiah 10:2, NKJV).

      “He made the Pleiades and Orion; He turns the shadow of death into morning and makes the day dark as night; He calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the face of the earth; The Lord is His name.
      He rains ruin upon the strong, so that fury comes upon the fortress” (Amos 5:7-9, NJKV).

      “Yes, I know what you’ve said is true, but how can a person be justified before God?

      If one wanted to take Him to court, he could not answer God once in a thousand times.God is wise and all-powerful.

      Who has opposed Him and come out unharmed?

      He removes mountains without their knowledge, overturning them in His anger.

      He shakes the earth from its place so that its pillars tremble.
      He commands the sun not to shine and seals off the stars.
      He alone stretches out the heavens and treads on the waves of the sea.
      He makes the stars: the Bear, Orion, the Pleiades, and the constellations of the southern sky.
      He does great and unsearchable things, wonders without number.

      If He passes by me, I wouldn’t see Him; if He goes right by, I wouldn’t recognize Him.

      If He snatches something, who can stop Him?

      Who can ask Him, ‘What are You doing?'” (Job Chapter 9, HCSB).

      Blessings
      Psalm 27

      • On September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah) – Jupiter (representation of God) is with Virgo (virgin), while Venus (representation of Jesus) is in Leo (King of Judah). The moon is at the feet of Virgo and she is clothed in the sun.

        On this date – Venus (representing Jesus), Mars (representing war), Mercury (representing angelic messenger) and Jupiter (representing God) are in a line. This seems to represent order. The alignment is within Leo (King of Judah) and Virgo (Virgin).

        On this same date, Saturn (representing Satan/Dragon) is in Ophiuchus.

        Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent; the interposition of his body divides the snake constellation Serpens into two parts, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda, which are nonetheless counted as one constellation.

        Saturn (Satan/Dragon) is within Ophiuchus on September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah).

        This seems appropriate. Someone is holding a serpent; “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the abyss and a great chain in his hand. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years…After that, he must be released for a short time” (Rev. 20:1-3, HCSB).

        “Shabbat Shuvah (“Sabbath [of] Return” שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates.

        This sign in the heavens occurs 70 years (generation per Psalm 90:10 and Jeremiah 29:10) after 1947 (Proclamation to establish Israel).

        I think this is a sign of the season of God’s Sabbath rest for 1000 years as our Lord reigns. Blessings. Psalm 27.

  2. There is no such sign given in the Bible. If it was give me the reference.

    • David you are contradicting the Holy Word of YHVH. If I were in your place I would think many times before making a statement like that. This shows you have no fear of the Creator and calling yourself a Christian is a farce, so if you own a copy of the Bible or more, it would be a good idea to give it to someone who believes but cannot afford to have one.

      For those who call themselves Christians and assume they know it all – Read the Scriptures for YHVH the Heavenly King, created the Sun, Moon and Heavenly Bodies for signs and wonders .. So says His Word:

      Genesis 1:16 God made two great lights–the greater light to rule over the day and the lesser light to rule over the night. He made the stars also.

      Luke 21:25 “Miraculous signs will occur in the sun, moon, and stars. The nations of the earth will be deeply troubled and confused because of the roaring and tossing of the sea.

      Luke 21:26 People will faint as they fearfully wait for what will happen to the world. Indeed, the powers of the universe will be shaken.

      Luke 21:27 “Then they will see THE SON OF MAN COMING IN A CLOUD with power and great glory. (Son of man, is Yahshua Messiah, The Lion of Judah, KING of kings, The Supreme above all kings and gods with a little ‘g’

      Matthew 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the SUN be darkened, and the MOON shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

      Joel 2:30 I will show wonders in the heavens and on the earth, blood and fire and billows of smoke.

      Ezekiel 32:7 When I snuff you out, I will cover the heavens and darken their stars; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon will not give its light.

      Read more Scriptures here on the signs in the Heavens from the books of the Bible http://biblehub.com/matthew/24-29.htm

      • You mean the great earthquake, the darkening of the sun, moon red as blood and the stars falling to earth?

        Well those of us who ascribe to historism and not futurism already knows these signs have already been fulfilled.

        Great earthquake = Lisbon earthquake November 1st 1755
        Sun darkening = Dark day of May 19th 1780
        Red blood moon = May 19th 1780
        Stars falling to earth = November 13th 1833
        And the Son came with clouds to his Father = October 22nd 1844

        These signs already fulfilled.

    • this is DJs post so I will let him answer you

    • David,

      Look at the sign in the Heaven given to the wise men.

      The wise men underatood the sign in the heavens. Both the 9/11 3BC and 17th day of Tammuz 2BC. They applied Jeremiah 10:2.

      They understood this verse too ~

      “And God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years…” (Gen. 1:14, ESV).

      The lights in the heavens are for signs.

      We just got one.

      Apply the same understanding of Genesis 1:14 and Jeremiah 10:2 as a wise man – Jupiter and Venus conjunction BEFORE Leo (Judah) and it occurs 90 days before a Blood Moon on Feast of Taberncles, 2015.

      The Day of the Lord looks to be at hand.

      Hebrew year 5776 is significant to pagan Freemasons too.

      Blessings
      Psalm 33

      • That is your interpretation.

        Jesus was born around 6/5BC.

        • Herod the Great died around 4BC according to history.

        • So David show me from Scripture that Jesus was born in 6 or 5 BC?.If this was the case, then the Gospel of Luke is wrong in saying that Jesus began his ministry in the 15 year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar.Roman history tells us that was in August of 14AD, which means that Jesus began his ministry in 28/29 AD.If he was born in say 5BC or 6BC that would have made him 34/35, and not about 30 years of age, as Luke states.

          • The Bible says Jesus was born “in the days of Herod the King” and Herod is recorded in history as having died, according to our modern calendar in 4 BC. What more proof do you need?
            As it happens, Jesus must have been born at least 2 years before this because Herod didn’t kill all the children until 2/3 years after His birth, meaning the latest Jesus could have been born was 6 BC.
            Interestingly, there was a conjunction of Mars, Saturn and Jupiter in 7 BC which is possibly the “star” referred to by the Three Magi and therefore a realistic estimate of the date of the birth of Jesus would be 7 BC
            So if Luke says Jesus was 30 years old, perhaps, like most men, he was a bad judge of a person’s age?

            • alan

              thought

              some sources say herod died in 4 bc…others 1 bc

              if jesus born in 2 Bc that would not fit either death date

              even if born in 3 bc…..and herod died in 1 bc…still onyl 2 years

              jesus would not have enough time to go to egypt and then come back

            • If Jesus was born in 7 BC and He died around 30-32 age, how come most scholars say He died between 27 to 33 CE? 33 CE-30=3 CE. If you count to 7 BC from 3 CE, you get the age of Jesus being 41 years of age. I believe you math for 7 BC is way off.
              Death 28 CE-30= 2 BC. Age 32= 4 BC. Your age 37. You math is way off.

          • Tiberius Caesar started ruling in 12AD. He was co-regent with Augustus for the first two years of his reign. 12 plus 15 = 27. Luke says he was about 30 not exactly 30. So was Jesus just a few weeks from his 30th birthday or his 31st? 27 minus 31 = 5BC. If Jesus was born in the fall of 5BC then the events of Luke and Matthew line up with history. The only clue the Bible gives for the visit of the wisemen is that Mary and Joseph decicated Jesus to the temple after Mary had gone through the purifications rites which I believe takes 41 days for a boy. So the wisemen’s visit must be at least 41 days after the birth of Jesus. According to history Herod died in the spring of 4BC. John the baptist began baptising when Jesus was 30. Jesus was baptised when he was 30 but only a few weeks from his 31st birthday.

            As I said the sign the wisemen saw and followed were probably a legion of angels not a couple of planets appearing to converge. The star the wisemen saw moved.

        • Ok David, you say Jesus was born around 6 or 5 BC, Lets use Virgo/Leo and Stellarium and Torahcalendar. I follow Leviticus 23 so that puts His birth in either Passover (March-April) or Fall Feasts (September-October). We will also use Revelation 12:1-2 as part of the puzzle.
          When we get to 3 BC, we will look at 17th Tammuz and see what planet/s are in the birth canal of Virgo. Also 17 Tammuz has to line up with Revelation 12:1-2.

          6 BC March to May. No planets in Virgo. 5 BC no planets in Virgo.
          Using Torahcalendar.com, we are looking for Day of Trumpet, Day of Atonement and Feast of Tabernacles Annual Sabbaths. Also we look for Day 4
          No way, no go means it did not happen on Day of Trumpet or Day of Atonement or Feast of Tabernacles annual Sabbatth.

          6 BC 9-16 Venus in Virgo lines up with Spica. No way, no go.
          9-22 Sun Wed during Days of Awe. No way, no go.
          10-10 Mercury in Retrograde with no Spica. No way, no go.

          5 BC 10 28 Venus No way, no go
          10 6 Mercury No way, no go
          9 21 Sun No way, no go.

          David, you struck out 6 times. You sure are a lousy batter. Sorry, you lose this battle.

          So now lets look at 4 BC for a birth.
          Sun on 9-21 No way, no go Mercury 9-29 No way, no go.

          3 BC Two ways two Paths. Most scholars believe He was born either at Passover or in the 7th Biblical month and they believe Jesus was 2 when the wise men showed up.
          Passover No planets in Virgo. No way, no go.
          Fall Feasts September-October.

          9-29 Venus at Spica in Virgo. No way. No go.
          9-21 Mercury/Sun at Spica in Virgo. A winner Stars and sripes are blaring. Too much noise for my ears. Day of Atonement. Sun=Son. Mercury=Savior.

          New Paramaters Rosh Chodesh (first sliver of the new moon) September 11 Wednesday
          Sept 12 Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpet Thursday
          Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement Annual Sabbath on a Regular Sabbath.
          Fall Equinox Wed. Sept. 24 and First Annual Sabbath of Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles Sept 25 Thursday.

          So now we start looking for all the conjunctions in Leo that combine with Regulus for the next two years. And so, now our journey begins and all i did was a process of elimination in detail because I am an Aspie and I have detailitis. So now we begin with the pages for David’s benefit.
          2017 with 3 pages, here we come.

          • this is getting too complicated 😦

            • I know.

              Lets keep it simple please. You and I know what we are talking about but everybody else out there who has stumbled on this site must think we all are mad.

          • The window is between 6 and 4BC. History says Herod died in the spring of 4bc. Jesus was born in the fall. So must be either the fall of 6 or 5BC.

            • History of today says 1 BC. Analytical reasoning is never complicaed. It is quite simple.
              I was misdiagnosed witth manic depression and schizoid affective disorder in 2011 but out of 10 symptoms each only two applied and out of those two only one applied. So what was it that was behind all my life if those showed at the time was not the real cause. In 2014 at the age 54, I found out that I was an Aspie. Process of elimination and analytical analysis.

      • Am contradicting your interpretation of it.

      • The sign the wise men saw and followed were more likely a group of angels.

        • Can you quote scripture and verse where it says that the sign was angels.

          • By the way David, you are going against a Bible Researcher who compiles commentaries on the subject matter at hand and his smallest paper is 2 pages and his largest is 50 pages.
            The study on the Birth of Jesus was 2 files at 30 pages each. The total around that timeframe is around 200 pages to 300 pages.
            So if you quote 1 verse, plan on at least 1 8×11 page on that verse.

          • Angels are called stars in Job 38.

            • Humanity is called the sea in Revelation.

              Hebrew idioms are covered all over the Bible. There are over 200+ in the NT alone. One Hebrew word in the Tanakh may have 70 different meanings.
              So you are saying that the stars we see above are heads are actually angels. So the Sun which is a Star is acutally an angel. You have a wierd theology.

              • Symbols have several different meanings depending on context.

                The waters that you saw were peoples, multitudes, nations and tongues. Rev 17:15 Also see Isa 17:12-13

                That is established.

                You are twisting my words regarding stars. The “star” the wisemen saw was not a conjunction of planets nor was it a supernova. A “star” does not move and hover over somones house. Therefore in this case this “star” must be several angels. Angels are beings of fire or light. The stars in the heaven are just stars in the normal sense.

                If I was to ask you what a lion represents you could answer that a lion is a symbol of the tribe of Judah or it is a symbol of Jesus Christ or you could say it is a symbol of Satan. Symbols must be understood in their context first. Just like you can not build a doctrine on just one verse. If you did you would have a weird theology, you could make the Bible say what ever you liked. Like for example everyone seems to build a doctrine on a certain parabel and forcing the rest of the Bible to fit. I will let you guess what I am referring to.

                • david

                  what you say about symbols is true.

                  but also consider this…that the stars in the sky do seem to move across the sky, even in one night…..

                  this is actually due to the movement of the earth ( rotation) in one day, and also due to rotation of earth around sun, making the earth viewing the star from different angles and distances.

                • Joshua’s longest day (Joshua 10) was the sun (a star) that hovered for a long day. It was a good astronomy writeup and it was on an Annual Sabbath.
                  I read the Bible literally in black and white without understanding the hidden meanings. It takes me a long while to just to understand one verse but thanks to e-sword, I can take one word and find all the meanings and especially if i use Biblehub.com interliear Bible.
                  For instance “Seasons” can refer to Spring, Summer, Winter or Fall or it can refer to Leviticus 23 as in the case at Genesis 1:14 and I Thess 5:1.
                  However my favorite one is Day and hour no man knoweth which is a great Hebrew idiom.
                  First off it can refer to the Day of Trumpet in Leviticus 23 which refers to the Day of the Lord (1-2 year event) or to the Second Coming in the year of Jubilee (Lev. 25:9-10; 2016-2017) either at the beginning of the year or at the end of the year. Most scholars say the end.
                  The Day of Trumpet in the fall in September /October is a 2 day event and is called Rosh Hashanah. Depending on the clouds, if the first day is covered over, then Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpet begins on Day 2 so we don’t really know when it will occur so all we look for is the first sliver of the new moon.
                  Day of the Lord covers Rev 8-11 Trumpet Judgments and maybe bowl judgements.
                  According to your Revelation theory, the earth is already dead and we are in the Messianic Kingdom now because it occurred in the 1800’s.
                  In September of 2015 should be the first trumpet judgment and it occurs on the first sliver of the new moon. The two asteroids should occur on the Day of Atonement all according to Leviticus 23. If that is the case then all of the other judgments should occur on the annual feast days, regular sabbaths, 4th day of the week, or first sliver of the new moon.

                  The second coming will be ushered in with a solar and lunar eclipse on the same day as it was at the first coming death. (Matt 24:28-31) and Armageddon. There is also supposed to be an earthquake on the Day of Trumpet.

                  Matt 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away (Isa. 65:17, Rev. 21:1), but my words shall not pass away. (Mk 13:31; Lk 21:33; Mt 5:18)

                  Mat 24:36 But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. (Mk 13:32; Ac 1:6,7)
                  When the days of the Messiah approach, even children will be able to discover secrets of wisdom, and through them be able to calculate the time of the end; then it will be revealed to all.’ ” (Zohar 1:117b-118a).
                  Mk 13 note: In the Son’s humanity, Jesus did not know when the day or hour would be. During this time on earth, Yeshua voluntary waived some of His divine perogatives according to Ryrie Study Bible.
                  1) This verse may refer to the return of His second coming in Matthew 24:31. If you notice the year is not mentioned, the season is not mentioned, the month is not mentioned. The year is a year of Jubilee. The next one is in 2017 (6003), then 2067 (6053), then 2117 (6103). The season is in the Fall based on Lev. 23:24ff. The month according to the Julian calendar is Tishrei or the seventh month Biblically again based on Leviticus 23. The first of the month is called Rosh Codesh and it begins on the sliver of the new moon. In September of 2017, for example, it is on the 20th or 21st. Since these days are shortened, then we have to add 2-3 days more. Just by guessing, we don’t know the day of the day. All we know is that it will be on the first sliver of the new moon in any given September. See notes Matt 24:31.
                  Some people claim that Jesus was speaking only to people living in the first century of not knowing the day or hour, not to people living today.

                  2) There is another interpretation to this verse and that refers to the end of the earth because of Matt 24:35 which Matt 24:36 follows. This month is Tishrei which is the 7th Biblical month in September/October which is tied to Leviticus 23:24ff which is called the Day of Trumpet. According to Torahcalendar.com, this will be in the year 3015. The earth began in the 7th month in 3986 BC according to Torahcalendar.com so it is fitting that it will end in the same month. The 7th month was the first month until 1441 or 1446 BC when the Exodus occurred in Exodus 12. Beginning in that year Abib/Nisan became the first month and it is in the spring in March/April and it begins on the first sliver of the new moon.
                  3) Day and hour refers to the Day of Atonement for it is 25 hours long (i.e. one day plus one hour).
                  4) Pentecost is also known as the Day and hour no man knoweth.
                  According to the Jewish wedding, Yeshua\Jesus is in Heaven building His house while the bride on earth is preparing herself for the wedding. When the house is ready for the bride, the groom comes for her. (Matt 25:1-13). This will be on the Day of Trumpet (Lev 23:24). The story in Matt 25:1-13 clearly teaches watchfulness (v. 13); i.e., only those who are prepared for His coming will enter the kingdom.

                  • You got to understand time ended in 1844. Since then we been living in the Day of Atonement. Time ended at the end of the prophetic periods. The Jubilee trumpet is blown at the end of the Day of Atonement. What else people say about 7 years or such like is false prophecy to me. You can’t reapply time prophecies in a day for a day fashion. That is darkness.

                    To God and Jesus 170 years is just one day. And the reason why the end hasn’t come yet is because God’s people are in apostasy. They aren’t ready. The world is ready, the wicked are ready but God delays because his people aren’t.

                    There is no 7 year prophecy at the end of time. At the end of the Day of Atonement probation closes, the plagues fall and Christ comes for his people on the 7th day Sabbath which also will be on the feast of Tabernacles. We will spend 7 days going to heaven and spend our first day in heaven on the sabbath. That is the antitypical feast of tabernacles. No one knows when that will be. Only the Father knows when and he will tell the world the day of Christ’s coming in the future. The wicked will only hear thunder.

                    • David, we do know the day and that day is the Day of Trumpet in either the 49th Shemitah year (2015) or the Year of Jubilee (2016-2017) all according to Gen 1:14; Lev. 23; Lev. 25; and Isa 61:1-2; the 120th Jubilee year which was not 1844.
                      Feast of Tabernacles is the Messianic Kingdom. The Day of Trumpet was by your theory when Jesus was born, the Day of Atonement by your theory was 1844, I guess due to Mar 21st – The original date predicted by William Miller of Massachusetts for the return of Christ and the end of the world.
                      Or because of this. October 22 – This second date, predicted by the Millerites for the Second Coming of Jesus, leads to the Great Disappointment. The Seventh-day Adventist Church denomination of the Christian religion believe this date to be the starting point of the Investigative judgment just prior to the Second Coming of Jesus as declared in the 26th of 28 fundamental doctrines of Seventh-day Adventists. [1]
                      October 23 – The Báb publicly proclaimed to be the promised one of Islam (the Qá’im, or Mahdi). He is also considered to be simultaneously the return of Elijah, John the Baptist, and the “Ushídar-Máh” referred to in the Zoroastrian scriptures.[2] He announces to the world the coming of “He whom God shall make manifest”. He is considered the forerunner of Bahá’u’lláh – the founder of the Bahá’í Faith – whose claims include being the return of Jesus.

                      Here is information from one of my files on 1844.
                      1818 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎)
                      1820 CE 66th Jubilee year (yovel יובל)
                      5800 1821 CE 116th Jubilee (yovel יובל)
                      1853 CE Sabbath years (Shmita שמיטה‎)

                      So, how long have you been a millerite?

                  • Time is no longer. You don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

    • David, you want the scripture reference Gen 1:14-17.

  3. David,

    Many people and some very well educated ones see Jupiter Regulus conjunction in Leo in 3BC (Feast of Tabernacles) as the sign of His birth.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyAoNOc_gjg

    My understand by looking 9 months later and seeing a conjunction of Jupiter Venus below Leo as the sign of His birth. The date of that conjunction is 17th of Tammuz, 2BC.

    You say conjecture. I say conjunction.

    Blessings
    Psalm 33

    • If astromtry sofware is correct. It doesn’t matter to me, that isn’t how I read the Bible.

    • Herod (/ˈhɛrəd/; Hebrew: הוֹרְדוֹס‎, Hordos, Greek: Ἡρῴδης, Hērōdēs; 74/73 BCE – 4 BCE),[1][2][3][4][5] also known as Herod the Great and Herod I, was a Roman client king of Judea,[6][7][8] referred to as the Herodian kingdom. He has been described as “a madman who murdered his own family and a great many rabbis”,[9] “the evil genius of the Judean nation”,[10] “prepared to commit any crime in order to gratify his unbounded ambition”,[11] and “the greatest builder in Jewish history”.[9] He is known for his colossal building projects throughout Judea, including his expansion of the Second Temple in Jerusalem (Herod’s Temple), the construction of the port at Caesarea Maritima, the fortress at Masada and Herodium. Vital details of his life are recorded in the works of the 1st century CE Roman–Jewish historian Josephus.

      Upon Herod’s death, the Romans divided his kingdom among three of his sons and his sister—Archelaus became ethnarch of the tetrarchy of Judea, Herod Antipas became tetrarch of Galilee and Peraea, Philip became tetrarch of territories east of the Jordan, and Salome I was given a toparchy including the cities of Jabneh, Ashdod, Phasaelis.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herod_the_Great

    • DJ, if you use Stellarium and using Leo aand Regulus and start counting from Sept 30th 3 BC, the first conjunction occurs 1 to 2 months later but it is always a different planet. The one you hark on is the Tammuz 17th one which is only one out of 9 conjunctions. I know because I actually did it my first time around with Stellarium copy 1. I believe the days may have changed with copy 2 but I am not for certain with this deduction.

      • This all sounds pretty much like astrology to me.

      • Please – I’ve worked with that software.

        https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-in-the-heavens/

        Here are 2 other perspectives on Feast of Taberncles 3BC and 9/11 2BC.

        He applies the same software, seeing 3BC as His birth. It is the conception.

        Blessings

        • dj

          thought

          if jesus born or either conceived in 2-3 bdc, then it is after death of herod in 4 bc…explain

          or

          if born/conceived and herod died in 1 bc, then not enough time to go to egypt and back

          • If Jesus was born in september in 3 BC and conception occurred in December on the regular Sabbath of 4 BC then that would give His family the chance to go to Egypt and come back at the age of 2 when Herod died in 1 BC. If Herod died in 4 BC, then Jesus was born in 7 BC giving them plenty of time to go to Egypt and come back.

    • DJ, John Ashcraft says to look at all the conjunctions of planets with Regulus between Septeber 3 BC to 1 BC.

      • Why?

        The significance is what planet and what star or other planet are conjunction and it must be within LEO.

        Does conjuction occur on/during a Hebrew Feast? One of them must be Feast of Tabernacles because He tabernacles wirh us.

        Or, is conjuction on a day of great sadness turned into Joy 9 months after a previous conjunction.

        Do you see Jupiter (King Planet) a part any conjuction IN or BELOW Leo (Judah)?

        There must be Jupiter – Vergo – Regulus in any combination within Leo.

        3BC – Feast of Tabernacles: Jupiter / Regulus IN Leo (conception).

        Nine (9) months later….what happens on what day? Birth!

        2BC – A day of sorrow (17th of Tamuz) turned to great Joy: Jupiter / Venus BELOW Leo (birth).

        Isaiah 53: 3-4 reads:

        “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted” (NKJV).

        But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”.

        I know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows into a day of Joy!

        Luke 2:10-12 records the news:

        “Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger” (NKJV).

        The religious leaders in Jerusalem were spiritually blind to the sign. Many are today.

        If you can’t see – well, I’m done exchanging replies on this thread.

        Blessings

        • Your Isa 53:3-4 refers to His death, not His birth.
          Zechariah 8 refers to the Messianic Kingdom at the Second Coming 2000 years later and not His birth. Son, you have to get your seasons in order and you DJ are doing it out of order.

          Zec 8:19 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The fast of the fourth month, and the fast of the fifth, and the fast of the seventh, and the fast of the tenth, shall be to the house of Judah joy and gladness, and cheerful feasts; therefore love the truth and peace.

          According to this verse, Jesus using DJ’s theory of His birth could have happened on the fast of the fourth, fifth, 7th (Day of Atonement; Lev. 23:24ff to 36th) or the Fast of the Tenth (Chanukkah).
          So DJ, you say it was on the fourth that He was born. Why did you not include the others as possible birth times or do you just like to use the first one. What if there was a fast in month one mentioned or month 2, then you would have used the Fast of month one as His birth.
          I chose the 7th month because all the Fasts have to be in also Leviticus 23 to be included in His birth, death, first coming, second coming. If it does not line up with this chapter, then you have to exclude it and not include it.

        • Isa 53:3-4 is actually used as a healing scripture.
          Isaiah 53: 3-4 reads:
          “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted” (NKJV).
          The reason this refers to His death and not His birth is because of many reasons.
          First the commentary from HCSB (Holm Christian Standard Bible) Study Bible. 2-4 A young plant growing up in a dry ground would be withered, thus providing an approariate image of the man of suffering. Just like a withered plant is uprooted and thrown away, so the Suffering Servant was rejected by men. He suffered on the behalf of others. He was rejected or struck down by God for His own supposed sins.
          The plaque above His head on the tree read this: Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews (YHVH). The Jews who walked under the cross did not look up at the Cross because they could bear to look at YHVH. They cannot pronounce this name and they also cannot to this day read the passage of Isaiah 53. They cannot type out the name God so they say G-d or El.
          Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows. This is actually a healing verse. Griefs means sicknesses and sorrows means diseases.
          We can walk around as freemen becuase He has healed all our sicknesses on the cross and all our diseases.
          By faith we can move a mountain to the sea so by faith on what Yeshua/Jesus did on the cross was to heal us.
          IN Genesis when man sinned for the first time, there was no sickness or disease, but after man sinned, then sickness and disease came in. Also man after he sinned began to eat meat and that is where some of our sicknesses and diseases came from.
          By His stripes we are healed. By His piercing we are blessed as along as we walk by the Torah. If we keep His commands, then we get all the blessings of Deut. 28, but if we do not keep them, then we get all the curses. Are you going to walk in the blessings or in the curses?

  4. To all
    Why is it that many people want to go back to the Zodiac instead of Searching and Hearing the Word of God. Evidently God must have thought the “Word” was more important to understand than the sign’s in the sky. That is why He came in a Flesh Body to reveal all the Mysteries of God through Himself as Christ and then the Prophets of the O.T and N.T.
    The Egyptians, Babylon, Greeks, Romans. and bout every civilization could understand the Zodiac they just called their gods different names. They were still pagans. Yes I believe Gods seed understood them in the right way. But still that day is far past and we have the Word of God and the Spirit of God living in us today to reveal the mysteries.

    There have been so many signs in the earth and heaven that we could get lost in it for years to come. Jesus told His generation when the “Temple” would be destroyed in HIS generation and all the Seals were told them in Matt. 24 when they asked the Lord about the End of the World. Their world not our world. The Lamb opened The 7 Seals and it is not a mystery anymore. The Lamb turned into Leo the Lion of Judgment in 70 AD.

    God always gives Grace first then Judgment. We are living in the Judgment and can you not discern the Darkness in the whole world we in today. America has fallen just like Israel did. Its gone. Judgment is next. No more great revivals as many think. The whole world is Icabod. America as a whole is anti-christ in most everything.

    Today people are waiting for God to appear in the clouds and take them away without dying when the Bible says different. That is what Israel was thinking in their day. Their Grace had come an gone. And Judgment is all that is left. He told the Women not to weep for HIM but weep for yourselves. Trying to warn them of the Judgment coming to them in that day 37 years after the Resurrection=70 AD.

    He warned and told His disciples “all things” about the ” 2nd.Coming in His day. Heb. 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever. The Messiah comes as a “Thief in the night” are the Bible is wrong. Israel was still looking for their Messiah to come. By the time you all get it all figured out in the stars and moons etc. It will already be over. Jesus had to tell His own disciples they missed Elijah as well. When Elijah came the Messiah was already on the earth. Messiah no more got started when Israel was already plotting His death. Israel was in complete darkness of Spiritual things.

    His Coming is a mystery in our day as well. I believe also that its not impossible for Israel to be destroyed. BUT ” It is “impossible that the “Israel of God” will not be destroyed” because that is the “Bride of Jesus Christ”.

    Israel’s Bride is within that Nation as in all Nations. Remnant’s only. Maybe I’m wrong on this one. But we all have our thoughts don’t we. The O.T was law the N.T is Spiritual. So Israel went by the Law and missed their own Messiah and missed the “Day of Pentecost” and did not receive the Spirit either. Think about that. Their Judgement was sure to come soon and it did. 70 AD – Are World is being Judged NOW. Any day we could all be gone.

    Palisade

    • For John the second coming happened in 95AD on the island of Patmos.

      I am using parallelisms here. Did you know that every creature had heard the gospel in Paul’s day by the time of Nero? Destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD was a type of the seven last plagues.

      Early rain and latter rain dispensations both follow the same pattern.

      • David, your Theology is up the creek……what Sect do you belong too?

        • I just read the Bible. The early rain is a type of the latter rain.

          The early rain began to sprinkle on the day of resurrection. Jesus breathed on them and said receive ye the Holy Spirit.

          The early rain was poured out in full measure 50 days later(Acts 2).

          The gospel had been preached to every soul under heaven by the time of Nero(Col 1:23).

          The destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD is a type of the seven last plagues. The city was destroyed with fire and everyone still living there were all killed.

          Jesus came to John on the island of Patmos.(Rev 1)

          The latter rain began to sprinkle on 9/11 when the angel of Rev 18:1-3 came down.

          • David, we can read all we want but we are to study the scriptures.

            2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

            When this was said or written, only the Torah and Tanakh were around. They are in the OT. The NT was not gathered together until after 300 CE.

            So we are to study the Torah and Tanakh. I study 8-12 hours per day unless I take a day off as in today.
            So I study the OT and read the NT. But I like to do commentary ty study. I am an Aspie with Asperger syndrome so I do the study in detail by the Hebraic Roots method. If you want that paper, e-mail me at Jardalkal@aol.com and put a title onto your subject matter such as Hebrew Root. The paper is 2-5 pages.
            When I study a verse in the NT, I loo for its compliment in the Torah or Tanakh. I believe that you shall know the end from the beginning.

    • beacon

      I think signs in the sky are ok as long as we have the word of god as well.

      this particular “conjunction” also occurred at the time of jesus birth….so it is just an interesting situation.

    • Ah beacon, we do know the Day of His return and we also know the year if you understand (know) Leviticus 23 and Lev. 25, Isa 61:1-2; and Gen 1:14.
      It is quite easy to understand once you know where to look.

  5. Could it be Matthew 24:30? Could it be the sign of the Son of Man in heaven? “And then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory? Just a thought. Hopefully even His second coming is closer than we think.

  6. beacon737,

    Let’s review Scriptures to address, “going back to the zodiac.”

    “And God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years…’” (Gen. 1:14, ESV).

    How far back do you what to go? In the beginning works for me. It’s in the Bible.

    I’m not a pagan (OT Gentile) and dismayed by signs in the heavens.

    Jeremiah 10:2 tells us, “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them” (NKJV).

    God named the zodiac for a reason.

    Job 9:9, “who made the Bear and Orion, the Pleiades and the chambers of the south…”

    Job 38:31, “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?

    Amos 5:8, “He who made the Pleiades and Orion, and turns deep darkness into the morning and darkens the day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the surface of the earth, the Lord is his name” (ESV).

    I really like Amos 5:8.

    The only ones who saw the Bethlehem Star were a few wise men from somewhere East of Jerusalem.

    The spiritual and political leaders in Jerusalem were told by the wise men that a King was born in Judah. Must be NT, Jesus was born.

    God’s word never changes or fails and it is living not dead.

    Hebrews 4:12, “For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart” (ESV).

    Romans 9:6, “But it is not as though the word of God has failed. For not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel…” (ESV).

    2 Peter 3:5, “For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God…”(ESV).

    Ephesians 5:6, “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience” (ESV).

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • God forbids astrology.

      • Yes David, God forbids astrology but not Astronomy and especially not Biblical Astronomy which Jim and I have been studying for some time.

        • God gave the sun and the moon for signs and seasons. If you read Genesis very carefully it says on the 4th day God made two lights, the greater light to rule the day(the sun) and a lesser light to rule the night(the moon). In a side note what should really be in brackets God says he made the stars also. In other words the God who made the sun and moon also made the stars. It doesn’t say(at least not clearly enough) the stars were made that day. In fact I believe the stars existed long before the creation of this solar system.

          • Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives (Yovel, Jubilee; Leviticus 25:9-10; 2016-2017, every 50 years), and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
            Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD (Shemitah/Shemitta; Lev. 25:1-8; 2014-2015; 14-15, 28-29 CE’s; every 7 year release of debt, the land lays fallow for one year but it is also a judgment for the Gentile nations; Jubilee Lev 25:9-10), and the day of vengeance of our God (2015-2017); to comfort all that mourn;
            Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs (Cross in the corona of the sun in 2014 on Pentecost; blood moon tetrads, lightning coming from the Sun on Dec. 23 (Rosh Chodesh 10); March 20th Solar Eclipse on Abib 1; Lunar Eclipse on April 4th, 2015 =Joel 2:31), and for seasons (Lev. 23) and for days (Sabbaths, Rosh Chodesh (first sliver of the new moon), 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles, 4th day of the week), and years (Lev. 25 Shemitah and Jubilee years):

          • It is too bad that you believe in Evolution because you said the stars were created long time before creation.

            • Genesis 1 is just the creation of this solar system. I believe in an old universe young earth.

              That does not mean I believe in evolution. At least not the kind you mean.

              • I believe the universe is only 6000 years old. But you believe that our universe is older than 6000 years so you either believe in the Big Bang theory or that the universe is billions of years old.
                I believe 1 day is 1000 years and 1000 years is one day so since creation occurred in 7 days, that means the universe will be only around for 7000 years. At the end of the next 1000 years will be a new heaven and a new earth. According to Torahcalendar.com, that is in the year 3015 and the earth ends in the 7th month at the beginning of the first sliver of the new moon.
                It is interesting that the 7th month (September-October) was the first month until the exodus in 1441 or 1446 which was a Shemitah year.

                • I don’t believe in the big bang either. That would be Cosmic Evolution. Just from counting the dates given in the Bible you can come to a figure of at least 6000 years. I believe we are at least 15 years past that 6000 year mark.

                  God created other solar systems before ours. Hebrews 1:2. In Job the sons of God came together:

                  Job 1:6 ¶ Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
                  Job 1:7 And the LORD said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                  Job 2:1 ¶ Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.
                  Job 2:2 And the LORD said unto Satan, From whence comest thou? And Satan answered the LORD, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

                  These were meetings of all the worlds coming to meet with God and it can’t be in the third heaven as Satan is not allowed there. Satan came representing Earth as Satan was made head of this world when Adam and Eve sinned. These two meetings must be on another world.

                  And also:
                  Gen 2:15 ¶ And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.
                  Gen 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
                  Gen 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

                  Satan was only given access to Adam and Eve to tempt them at this tree. Eden was made on the 6th day and these events all happened that day. So the rebellion in heaven must have occured before this day. On every world in the universe there is a tree of life and a tree of knowledge of good and evil and it was only this world that rebelled and fell. Satan was stranded here after the cross when the other worlds made their minds up about what Satan was about. Now Satan can not leave this world and pester the other worlds. Earth is in quarintine and we can’t leave nor can other worlders visit. We are all infected with sin. The holy angels are the only ones allowed access to us that and the Holy Spirit.

                  The events of Revelation 12:7-13 happened before the creation of this world. Lucifer was God’s first creation(Eze 28).

                  That said you may be surprised to know we agree on a lot of things you have said.

                  • Heb 1:1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
                    In times past. This refers to when the OT was being written. God spoke: “Thus saith the Lord!” Some people claim to believe in God but no that he “spoke.” A moment’s reflection will cast a shadow on the viability of this position. If God did not “speak,” if he has not revealed anything specific, if there are none of his words extant which can guide a person toward true knowledge about Elohim, humanity and the relationship between them, then Elohim is unconnected with life, irrelevant. Many secular people, agnostics and atheists seem willing to accept the hopelessness and meaninglessness of such a conclusion. I think they are wrong but closer to facing reality than those who believe in a Elohim who has not spoken.
                    God spoke in many and varied ways, directly and indirectly, in law, institutions, ceremonies, kings, judges, in dreams and stories, history and prophecy, poems and proverbs, to the Fathers of the Jewish people through the prophets from Moses to Malachi, and before Moses, to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Joseph.
                    1-4 These verses comprise one majestic sentence in the Greek text and read like the opening of a formal Greek oration rather than he customary “greetings” of a letter.
                    Heb 1:2 Hath inG1909 theseG5130 lastG2078 daysG2250 spokenG2980 unto usG2254 by his Son,G5207 whomG3739 he hath appointedG5087 heirG2818 of all things,G3956 byG1223 whomG3739 also he madeG4160 the worlds;G165
                    In these last days. The last days here means the entire gospel dispensation extending form the first to the second advent of Christ. Literally, the ages, including time, space, and the material world.
                    God spake to his ancient people at sundry times, through successive generations, and in divers manners, as he thought proper; sometimes by personal directions, sometimes by dreams, sometimes by visions, sometimes by Divine influences on the minds of the prophets. The gospel revelation is excellent above the former; in that it is a revelation which God has made by his Son. In beholding the power, wisdom, and goodness of the Lord Jesus Christ, we behold the power, wisdom, and goodness of the Father, John 14: 7; the fullness of the Godhead dwells, not typically, or in a figure, but really, in him. When, on the fall of man, the world was breaking to pieces under the wrath and curse of God, the Son of God, undertaking the work of redemption, sustained it by his almighty power and goodness. From the glory of the person and office of Christ, we proceed to the glory of his grace. The glory of His person and nature, gave to his sufferings such merit as was a full satisfaction to the honor of God, who suffered an infinite injury and affront by the sins of men. We never can be thankful enough that God has in so many ways, and with such increasing clearness, spoken to us fallen sinners concerning salvation. That he should by himself cleanse us from our sins is a wonder of love beyond our utmost powers of admiration, gratitude, and praise.
                    According to Jewish tradition Malachi was the last of the Tanakh prophets. For the next four centuries, to use the remark of an earlier prophet, “The word of Yeshua was rare in those days, there was no frequent vision” (I Samuel 3:1). But in the Tanakh’s latter days,” which the NT regards as already here (I Cor 10:11), he has spoken again, not to Fathers long dead (v. 1), but to us in the 1st century C.E. (see 2:3), through his Son (literally, a son).
                    By implication, his Son is better that “the Prophets” (v. 1). A major purpose of the author is to show that Yeshua and everything connected with him are better than what was available previously. He uses this word, “better,” twelve times in Hebrews to compare the Messiah and his era with what there was before. It appears first in v. 4 and last at 12:24, an the author summarizes this comparison of old and new (12:18-24).
                    There follow in vv 2-3 seven features of God’s Son which demonstrate his superiority:
                    (1) Elohim has given Him ownership of everything (compare Col 1:15b). Literally, God has made him heir of all things.” “Ask of me, and I will give you nations as an inheritance and the ends of the earth as your possession” (Ps 2:8); compare Matt 4:8-9, 21:38; Acts 1:8. On the application of Psalm 2 to the Messiah.
                    (2) Elohim created the universe through him, as taught also at Jn 1:3; Col 1:16. That the universe was created through an intermediary–the Word (Jn 1:1-3), the Shekinah, Wisdom, the Torah–is not an idea alien to Judaism.

    • Note:
      The Pleiades and Orion are not in the zodiac, so they don’t count.

      • Since they do not count, why don’t you Jim cut out of your Bible all the verses that don’t count. Jim, to you Leviticus 23 does not count so cut it out. If God said it counts, JIm it counts so Pleiades and Orion does count. All the universes count. Everything in those universes count.
        God created everything beginning on the first day of Creation and according to Genesis 1:14, all the universes in the Heavens were created on the 4th day because all the universes were void on the first day.
        According to Genesis 1: Berashit Elohim bara Aleph-Tav the heavens and the earth. Translated: In the beginning, God created (YHVH/Aleph-Tav/Lord/Jesus) the Heavens and the earth. God said it and Jesus did it. Jesus is the Aleph-Tav and He did whatever it is in front of a noun or verse 600 times in the Trah and a total of 2000 times in the Tanakh.

  7. Amy,

    There is a very special sign in the heavens on September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah).

    I can’t show you on this reply, sorry. You can see a graphic of the aliment that includes Virgo and Leo at the bottom of the linked article.

    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-in-the-heavens/

    “Shabbat Shuvah (“Sabbath [of] Return” שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates.

    This Shabbat is named after the first word of the Haftarah (Hosea 14:2-10) and literally means “Return!” It is perhaps a play on, but not to be confused with, the word Teshuvah (the word for repentance).”

    https://www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-shuva

    https://www.ou.org/torah/parsha/shnayim-mikra/vayeilech_haf/

    Jupiter (representation of God) is with Virgo (virgin), while Venus (representation of Jesus) is in Leo (King of Judah).

    All these planets are in a line, while Saturn (representing Satan/Dragon) is no where in sight on Shabbat Shuvah, 2017.

    This sign in the heavens occurs 70 years (generation per Psalm 90:10 and Jeremiah 29:10), after the 1947 proclaimtion to establish Israel.

    I think this is a heavenly sign of the season of God’s Sabbath rest for 1000 years as our Lord reigns.

    Blessings to you.

    • I agree with your prediction for the arrival of Jesus as 70 years from the date of the UN resolution to create the new State of Israel, which was 29th November 1947.
      These signs certainly seem to tie in with that prediction but I’m sure it won’t be accurate to the exact day!

      • The nation state of Israel is a false fulfillment of Bible.

        • what makes it false.?

          • Well think about it for a moment Marianne? The state of Israel was invented by the United Nations, backed, funded and protected by the USA. If it was God ordained why does Israel need protection by another country?

            Also anyone who has more than a basic understanding of the Bible knows that Israel today is anyone in Christ(Gal 3:29). That rules out the literal Jews now doesn’t it. Jesus said of the Jews in John that their father is the devil himself. Polically incorrect to say in this PC world but it is the truth. God gave the Jews probationary time of 490 years(Dan 9). They blew it and God went to the Gentiles.

            Modern Israel, the real Israel is worldwide. I don’t care one jot about that plot of land in the middle east, it is just a diversion. You should be watching what the Papacy, the UN and the USA are doing.

            • David- Great! Another anti-Semite. Gentiles should learn to control their tongues about things they have no understanding of! Your disdain for Eretz Yisrael will be your undoing. But that is your choice. Hopefully you will get some wisdom to correct your corrupt understanding and thinking!

              Shalom

              • I suppose Jesus was also anti-semite?

                Fact: Israel is occuping Palenstian lands. The Palestians are oppressed by Israel. Has been since 1967. The Israel goal is to eventually annex that land and drive out and or kill all the Palestinians. The US news media does not report any of this because the Jewish lobby in the USA are very powerful. Your tax money is funding the genecide of a people.

                How would you feel if a foriegn power invaded your country and had it in lock down mode? Imagine the USA was under another countries rule, how would you feel about that? Then how would you feel if that foriegn power was wiping out you and building their own settlements there and putting their own people in them? Would you fight back and drive out the invaders?

                Fact: Israel is commiting murder with American made and paid for weapons, tanks, bullets, planes and helicopters.

                You okay with that? Did God ordaine all that? Does God sanction mass murder?

                And yet you dare to call me a racist.

                By the way I comdemn both sides.

                • None of this is determined by the shifting and false narrative of the news conglomerates and the political agenda of the world! Yah will have his way and the House of Judah and House of Israel will dwell together in Eretz Yisrael in the near future, regardless of what man thinks or does! You have to go back to the beginning to know who is who at the end.

                  Shalom

                • Jesus was a Jew, so how can a Jew be anti-semitic. Paul was a Jew.

                  Jesus is against the laws that man tacks on. For instance the laws of the scribes and Pharisees. For instance, the laws of the Roman Catholic church and we can’t forget mItraism, Dispensationalism, Replacement Theology, Pre-trib rapture, and any others I forgot such as Evolution, Imminency of Christ, and so on.

                  Israel has occupied the land of Israel since the Exodus until 1517 CE which was taken over by the Islamics. For a time, it became no man’s land. Then in 1948, it went back into the hands of Israel with a different name (Judah). The tribe of Judah and Benjamin occupied the land until 1517 CE fro the Exodus in 1401 or 1406 BC.
                  In the Messianic Kingdom, all of the land of Canaan is the promised land and the whole eretz/land/earth becomes the promised land.
                  Look at how many times in Daniel was Israel was occupied. Babylonians. Persia, Rome, and now the feet clay and Iron (Islamics) and now the ten toes.

                  By the way David, Russia is going to occupy America in 2016. America dies in 2016 by a nuclear war and is flooded over with water in 2016.

            • Israel could not be created unless it was God’s will …

              Israel was formed and survived against impossible odds.

              it would have been destroyed to begin with unless it did not have god’s protection.

            • david

              god has always used other nations to bless Israel, and to punish it.

              I see no problem with god using the UN to establish Israel.

              • Except God didn’t use any other power to form the original nation of Israel. I don’t recall Moses asking other nations for help to establish Israel.

                • david

                  you are putting god in a shoe box and expecting him to ONLY act the way you want.

                  god is soverign….his ways are not our ways

            • David, anybody who has read and study the Bible knows that Israel is not the church or Christians. You have to go back to the beginning in the Torah. Show me in the Exodus where Christians were present. Are there really 12 tribes of Christians. I believe Israel had 12 sons. There was Rueben, Judah, Benjamin, just to name a few but I do not remember Christian. I remember foreigners and strangers that went with the 12 tribes of Israel in the Exodus. But There weren’t Christians then.
              The three sons on Noah who are Shem. Ham, and Japeth and their generation of sons and the Christian believers came from these lines.
              Jeremiah 31:31-34. The Messianic Kingdom is for the House of Judah and the house of Israel..
              So lets go through the 12 tribes.
              First of all, the tribe of Benjamin combined with the tribe of Judah and they became the jews. Dvid, if you have a Spanish Surname, you are a Jew.
              With Jacob the last person is reached who, for his own generation, thus sums up in a single individual “the seed” of promise. He becomes the father of 12 sons, who are the progenitors of the tribes of the “peculiar people.” It is for this reason that this people bears his name, and not that of his father Isaac or that of his grandfather Abraham. The “children of Israel,” the “house of Jacob,” are the totality of the seed of the promise. The Edomites too are children of Isaac. Ishmaelites equally with Israelites boast of descent from Abraham. But the twelve tribes that called themselves “Israel” were all descendants of Jacob, and were the only descendants of Jacob on the agnatic principle of family-constitution.

              Gal 3:25. But now faith that is come, we are no longer under a tutor.
              But now faith that is come which Yeshua displayed, which same faith we now have too because we are united with him (v. 26), we Jews are no longer under legalism of any sort, no longer under a schoolmaster.
              And the vastly greater advantage of the gospel state is shown, under which we enjoy a clearer discovery of Divine grace and mercy than the Jews of old. Most men continue shut up as in a dark dungeon, in love with their sins, being blinded and lulled asleep by Satan, through worldly pleasures, interests, and pursuits. But the awakened sinner discovers his dreadful condition. Then he feels that the mercy and grace of God form his only hope. And the terrors of the law are often used by the convincing Spirit, to show the sinner his need of Christ, to bring him to rely on his sufferings and merits, that he may be justified by faith. Then the law, by the teaching of the Holy Spirit, becomes his loved rule of duty, and his standard for daily self-examination. In this use of it he learns to depend more simply on the Saviour.

              26. For ye are all sons of God, through faith, in Christ Jesus.
              This faith which Yeshua demonstrated belongs not only to Jews (“we,” v. 25), but to all of you, both Jewish and Gentile believers in him. If Jews and Gentiles exercise faith, which belongs to both of us by virtue of our union with the Messiah (see 2:17-18N), then both Jews and Gentiles are sons of God, adopted as God’s sons (4:5) on the ground of our union with the Messiah, who himself is already God’s Son.
              Real Christians enjoy great privileges under the gospel; and are no longer accounted servants, but sons; not now kept at such a distance, and under such restraints as the Jews were.

              27. For as many of you as were baptized into Christ did put on Christ.
              Baptized into Christ. Not water baptism but Spirit baptism, which brings believers in a living union with Christ (I Cor 12:13). Put on Christ. I.e., clothing oneself with Yeshua, a responsible act of appropriating all that Yeshua is.
              Union with the Messiah comes about through being immersed into the Messiah. The Greek word for “immersed, baptized” is a form of “baptizo,” usually rendered “baptized”. The word “baptize” implies immersion so as to absorb the qualities of the immersing substance and thus be transformed. If you are immersed believer, you have absorbed some of the qualities of the Messiah and are continually “being changed into his very image, from one degree of glory to the next, by Adonai the Spirit (2 Cor 3:18). This immersion into the Messiah comes about not merely through getting wet, but through prayer to God in which one repents of one’s sinful way of life and accepts Yeshua the Messiah’s atonement and Lordship. Here Paul says this is equivalent to having put on Christ or being clothed with the Messiah.
              While the Greek verb “baptizein” is obviously the source of the English words “baptize” and “Baptist,” its root meaning is “to dip, soak, immerse” into a liquid, so that what is dipped takes on qualities of what it has been dipped in–for example, cloth in dye or leather in tanning solution.
              But to understand what “baptizein” means here one needs the Jewish background. According to the Torah one had to be ritually pure before entering the Tabernacle or Temple. Ritual purity could be lost in many ways; the preeminent means of restoring it was through washing. A quick review of Leviticus shows how frequently the matter is mentioned, and one of the six major divisions of the Talmud (Taharot, “Cleansings”) is devoted to it. Even though there is no longer a Temple, observant Jewish women immerse themselves in a mikveh (ritual bath) after each menstrual period, in obedience to Leviticus 15.
              A person who immerses himself participates in an obvious yet living metaphor of purification, with the water, as it were, washing away the impurity.
              Today’s ritual baptism in some branches of Christianity does not involve complete immersion of the body in water, but pouring or sprinkling instead. Some scholars believe that at least in some instances, even NT baptisms may have been sprinklings or pourings and not actual immersions; verses such as Ezek 36:25 (Heb 10:22) and Lk 3:16 with Acts 2:17-18, Acts 10:45 are adduced in support. The various “Baptist” denominations sprang from a movement in the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries that stressed complete immersion of believers, as opposed to sprinkling or pouring baptismal water on infants not yet old enough to have decided consciously to be Christian.
              A person who immerses himself participates in the living metaphor of purification, with the water, as it were, washing away the impurity. Here, we are cleansed from a life pattern of sin.
              We see this mikveh when Moses congregation went through the Red sea. We see John the Baptist baptizing people including Jesus.
              In a river mikveh, you go in one end and come out at the other end or another way. You go in as a Passover lamb, You are cleansed, your sins are covered over. Then you come out as first fruits through the power of Lord Christ Jesus (YHVH).
              Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. (Ezekiel 36:25-27).
              Water is an emblem of the cleansing our polluted souls from sin. But no water can do more than take away the filth of the flesh. Water seems in general the sacramental sign of the sanctifying influences of the Holy Ghost; yet this is always connected with the atoning blood of Christ. When the latter is applied by faith to the conscience, to cleanse it from evil works, the former is always applied to the powers of the soul, to purify it from the pollution of sin. All that have an interest in the New Covenant, have a new heart and a new spirit, in order to their walking in newness of life. God would give a heart of flesh, a soft and tender heart, complying with his holy will. Renewing grace works as great a change in the soul, as the turning a dead stone into living flesh. God will put his Spirit within, as a Teacher, Guide, and Sanctifier. The promise of God’s grace to fit us for our duty, should quicken our constant care and endeavor to do our duty. These are promises to be pleaded by, and will be fulfilled to, all true believers in every age.
              Having accepted Christ Jesus as their Lord and Saviour, and relying on him alone for justification and salvation, they become the sons of God. But no outward forms or profession can secure these blessings; for if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. In baptism we put on Christ; therein we profess to be his disciples. Being baptized into Christ, we are baptized into his death, that as he died and rose again, so we should die unto sin, and walk in newness and holiness of life. The putting on of Christ according to the gospel, consists not in outward imitation, but in a new birth, an entire change.

              28. There (I Cor 12:13; Col 3:11) can be neither Jew nor Greek, there can be neither bond nor free, there can be no male and female; for ye (Jn 17:11; Eph 2:15) all are one man in Christ Jesus (Gal 3:26; 4:14; Col 1:4).
              Gentiles who by trusting in Yeshua and staying faithful to him have become children of God, who have immersed “Baptizein” themselves into the Messiah, who have clothed themselves with the Messiah, are equal partners with Jews in the Body of the Messiah, declared righteous by God without their having to adopt any further Jewish distinctives. This is a point Paul makes repeatedly in his writings; see Rom 3:22-23, 29-30; 4:9-12; 10:12; 11:32; I Cor 12:13; Eph 2:11-22; 3:6; Col 3:11—and these references do not exhaust the list; many other verses, especially in Romans, express the same idea. Therefore Jewish and Gentile believers must treat each other as equals before God, of equal worth as human beings. So must believing slaves and freemen, and likewise believing men and women. And that is really all this verse has to say.
              However, the verse is misused in polemic against Messianic Judaism in the following way: “You Messianic Jews should not separate yourselves from us Gentile Christians by having Messianic synagogues! Don’t you know that ‘in Christ there is neither Jew nor Greek’? So be like us, give up your Jewish distinctives, stop observing the Torah and the Jewish ways and the Jewish holidays, put all that behind you; and worship with us in our Gentile-oriented congregations, living our Gentile lifestyle.” The misuse is in concluding that because there is no distinction in God’s sight between the forensic righteousness (2:16aN) of believing Gentiles and of believing Jews, therefore Jews are prohibited from observing God-given commandments. Such a conclusion defies both logic and the practice of the early believers.
              Further, it defies the grammar of the sentence itself. The sentence contains three parallel pairs: Jew … Gentile, slave … freeman, male … female. Obviously there are still observable physiological and social distinctive between male and female and between slave and freeman (even today there remain in the world tens of millions of slaves), even though in union with the Messiah Yeshua they are all one, so far as their acceptability before God is concerned. The same is true of Jews and Gentiles: the distinction remains; the verse does not destroy it.
              The Bible recognizes such differences between various groups. The Torah has commands which apply to the king but not to his subjects, to priests but not other Jews, to men but not women. The NT too has different commands for men and women, widows and other women (see I Cor 11:2-16, 24:34-36; Eph 5:22-6:9; Col 3:18-4:1; I Tim 3:1-13, 5:3-16; Heb 13,&7, 17; I Pet 3:1-7); and it makes special demands of pastors, elders, shammashim (deacons) and evangelists which are appropriate to their offices but are never regarded as underminding the equality of all believers before God.
              Similarly there remain differences between Jews and Gentiles, differences in what they are commanded to do. It is not for Gentile Christians to try to prevent Jewish believers from taking cognizance of those difference and building their lifestyles in a way that reflects them, so long as the lesson of Galatians is heeded, which is that equality and fellowship in the Body of the Messiah between Jews and Gentiles must be nurtured and preserved. It is not that there is to be one race or one nationality, but one Messianic Community.
              But nothing in the NT prevents a Jewish believer from choosing to worship with Gentile believers in a Gentile-oriented church; likewise nothing prevents a Gentile believer from choosing to worship with Jewish believers in a Messianic Jewish congregation. In either situation what the NT mandates is fellowship and equality between Jews and gentiles in the Body.
              Neither Jew or Gentile, neither slave nor freeman, neither male nor female. The three pairs in this verse reflect the words spoken by (free) Jewish men in their morning prayers (see, for example, J.H. Hertz, The Authorized Daily Prayer Book, New York: Bloch Publishing company, revised edition 1948, pp 18-21):
              “Praised be you, Adonai our God, King of the universe, because you have not made me a Gentile. Praised be you, Adonai our God, King of the universe, because you have not made me a woman. Praised be you, Adonai our God, King of the universe, because you have not made me a slave.”
              (Likewise Gentiles and women were limited to certain parts of the Temple area). The implication that free Jewish men have special status with God is avoided by most Orthodox Jewish explanations of these prayers, although criticism from within Judaism has not been lacking. In any case, Paul, with sweeping finality, says that in the Body of the Messiah, God has abolished such presumptive distinctions of status.
              According to Messianic Jewish pastor Mark Kinzer, the witness to the world that the Messiah reconciles Jews and Gentiles requires them not to suppress their Jewish or Gentile identity, but to maintain their identities while relating to each other in love and thus manifesting unity. If Jewish or Gentile identity is suppressed, reconciliation is invisible and therefore is not a witness.
              Cross references:
              I Cor 12:13 refers to all being baptized into Christ as believers.

              29. And if ye are Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, heirs according to promise.
              Whether Jewish or Gentile, if ye are Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed in these senses:
              (1) You are one with the Messiah who is the “seed” in the midrashic (allegory, homily, exegesis) sense of v. 16.
              (2) By having the same kind of faith that Abraham had, you prove yourself his spiritual descendants (vv. 7, 9).
              (3) You are joined to Israel (6:16), who are Abraham’s physical seed.
              Thus you are heirs according to promise of vv. 8, 18.
              Are Gentiles full-fledged children of Abraham, or are they second-class children? They are full-fledged children of Abraham because they are adopted into the house of Israel by their grafting into the Olive Tree.

              Now we go to Olive Tree study in Romans 11 you Jew hater. Remember Jew hater David. Every time you hate Jews, you hate Jesus because He was a Jew. You also hate Paul because He was a Jew. Your Bible is a Jewish Bible from cover to cover and since you hate Jews, go live by the Koran.

              • Type and anti type. The Hebrews were Christians weren’t they? They had faith in the coming of the Messiah. Messiah, Christ same word, one comes from Hebrew, the other from the Greek.

                • There was no Christian church until 321 CE. There were Messianics (The Way) between Pentecost 2 and 321 CE.
                  The Way kept the Sabbaths of Leviticus 23, but Christians did away with the Sabbaths and they now keep Sunday as their day of worship in honor of the Roman gods such as Ra. So, if you call yourself a Christian, you are heavily into idol worship known as Mithraism. You are a member of the Romn Catholic Church and since they believe in many gods then you are destined to the lake of fire ad brimstone.
                  Please come out of Babylon before it is too late.

                  • I am a Sabbath keeper. I don’t keep the pagan Sunday. Sunday is just a normal common work day.

                    If you keep Sunday you are Catholic.

              • Romans 11:17-25

                17-24 The olive tree is the place of privilege which was first occupied by the natural branches (the Jews). The wild branches are Gentiles who, because of the unbelief of Israel, now occupy the place of privilege. The root is the Abrahamic covenant which promised blessing to both Jews and Gentiles through Yeshua.

                17. And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;

                18. Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
                If some of the branches, that is, unbelieving individual Jews but not the whole Jewish people, were broken off, removed temporarily, not permanently!–(vv. 11-12, 23-24) from being eligible to receive what God has promised, and you Gentiles (v. 13), a wild olive, were grafted in among them, among the branches which are still part of the tree, the Messianic Jews, the Jewish nation as represented by its Messianic Jewish community, and have become equal sharers in the rich root of God’s cultivated olive tree, then don’t boast as if you were better than (literally, “don’t boast against”) the natural branches, neither the ones still in place (the Messianic Jews) nor the ones broken off ( the non-Messianic Jews). Gentiles pride in having been joined to the “chosen people” is utterly out of place, particularly when directed against those very people! As Paul writes elsewhere, “After all, what makes you so special? What do you have that you didn’t receive as a gift? And if in fact it was a gift, why do you boast as if it weren’t?”
                However, if you do boast, for whatever reason–carelessness, thick headedness, or actual malice–it ought to help you stop if you remember that you are not supporting the root, but the root is supporting you. Or, to make Paul’s point is clear as it can be, whether the root is Yeshua, Abraham, the Patriarchs, the Messianic Jews or all the Jews (see v. 16 N), it is a Jewish root, and don’t you forget it! The Jewish community sometimes draws a picture of the Jew who comes to faith in Yeshua as someone doubly unwelcome, rejected both by other Jews and by the Gentile majority in the Church as well. It is easy enough to understand why a Messianic Jew might be rejected by some in the Jewish community, but why did the image of his being rejected by the Church even arise? It came from Gentile Christians who forgot Paul’s warning and regarded the Jewish believer in their midst not as a natural branch of the olive tree into which they were grafted, but as an alien.
                Shifting the perspective slightly, notice that Paul is reminding Gentile Christians that trusting God also means joining God’s people. It is no different now than it was with Ruth: Your people shall be my people and your God my God” (Ruth 1:16). Gentile Christians have joined Israel, not the reverse (see also Eph 2:11-16). For a Gentile Christian to look down on the people he has joined is not only chutzpah (effrontery, brazen impudence) and ingratitude but also self-hate.
                Chutzpah. A colorful Hebrew and Yiddish word that means “boldness, audacitiy, effrontery, insolence, gall, brazen nerve, presumption, arrogance, persisitance, and just plain ‘guts,'” in combinations, proportions and intensitites.

                19. Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.

                20. Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:

                21. For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
                11-21 The gospel is the greatest riches of every place where it is. As therefore the righteous rejection of the unbelieving Jews, was the occasion of so large a multitude of the Gentiles being reconciled to God, and at peace with him; the future receiving of the Jews into the church would be such a change, as would resemble a general resurrection of the dead in sin to a life of righteousness. Abraham was as the root of the church. The Jews continued branches of this tree till, as a nation, they rejected the Messiah; after that, their relation to Abraham and to God was, as it were, cut off. The Gentiles were grafted into this tree in their room; being admitted into the church of God. Multitudes were made heirs of Abraham’s faith, holiness and blessedness. It is the natural state of every one of us, to be wild by nature. Conversion is as the grafting in of wild branches into the good olive. The wild olive was often ingrafted into the fruitful one when it began to decay, and this not only brought forth fruit, but caused the decaying olive to revive and flourish. The Gentiles, of free grace, had been grafted in to share advantages. They ought therefore to beware of self-confidence, and every kind of pride or ambition; lest, having only a dead faith, and an empty profession, they should turn from God, and forfeit their privileges. If we stand at all, it is by faith; we are guilty and helpless in ourselves, and are to be humble, watchful, afraid of self-deception, or of being overcome by temptation. Not only are we at first justified by faith, but kept to the end in that justified state by faith only; yet, by a faith which is not alone, but which worketh by love to God and man.
                19-21 So, seeking an excuse for pride, you, a new imaginary opponent (see 10:14-15), a prideful boastful Gentile Christian, will say “Branches were broken off so that I might be grafted in,” the implication being that God prefers Gentiles to Jews. Paul’s answer is, literally, “it is well”, my rendering. True, but so what? It brings out the implicit irony, the point being the opponent’s statement, though true, cannot be made into a ground for boasting against the branches. For even though they were broken off because of their lack of trust, nevertheless, the only reason you stay in place is because of your trust in the God of the Jews and in the Jewish Messiah. So don’t be arrogant; on the contrary, be terrified of letting pride in having been included with God’s people replace trust in God. This was the very sin Paul found unbelieving Jews prone to at 2:17-29, and compare Matt 3:9. “Stand in awe” or even “fear,” as some translations have, are not strong enough; you are to be terrified, once you face the fact that if God did not spare the natural branches when they apostatized through lack of trust in him, he certainly won’t spare you, a grafted-in branch, when you, through antisemitic pride, demonstrate that same lack of trust.

                22. Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
                Some people think that if they have given mental assent to the proposition that Yeshua is the Messiah, they have “eternal security” with God, no matter how they live their lives. This parody of genuine trust is rightly called “cheap grace.” The truth of the matter is that “faith” without actions to match is dead (Jam 2:14-26); in other words, salvation is conditional; provided you maintain yourself in that kindness! Otherwise you too will be cut off! This involves taking care that faith “works itself out in love (Gal 5:6; Eph 2:10).

                23. And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.

                24. For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
                Conversely, the only condition non-Messianic Jews must meet in order to become sharers in the promises God made them is not to persist in their lack of trust. Then they will most certainly be grafted in; because God is able to graft them back in. This means that God can keep his promises, which is specifically the issue behind Chapter 9-11 (see Rom 9:1-11:36N).
                God’s ability to graft them back in is proved by another light and heavy argument (see Matt 6:30N), that if you Gentiles were cut out of what is by nature a wild olive tree, a nation of pagans separated from God’s promises (Eph 2:11-12), and were grafted, contrary to nature, that is, contrary to normal agricultural practices, contrary to what makes economic sense, into a cultivated Olive tree, the Jewish people. Enabling God’s “foolishness” (I Cor 1:17-31) to highlight his sovereign control above his purposes (9:6b-29); then (the climax of the argument) how much more will these natural branches be grafted back into their own olive tree! How much easier it will be to bring an understanding of spiritual truth to those who belong to the people God has been dealing with for thousands of years than to those who do not! The analogy does not apply to every single Jew over against every single Gentile–especially today, when some Jews are raised without any Jewish identification, while many Gentiles, particularly those raised in Christian homes, have been exposed to spiritual truth as much as or more than many Jews. But, leaving modern exceptions aside, it ought to be easier for a Jew to believe in Yeshua as the Messiah than for a Gentile (and this would certainly have been so when Paul wrote), since “Messiah” is a concept which is part of Jewish culture, whereas a gentile has to be introduced to an idea alien to his culture (see Acts 11:20-23.)
                Furthermore, a Jew, as a member of the Jewish people, has the advantages enumerated at 9:4-5. This is why a “Jews of Jesus” broadside says, in a lighthearted vein, “You don’t have to be Jewish to believe in Jesus–but it helps!”
                The “olive tree” analogy of vv. 17-24 casts new light on the important theological question, “Who are God’s people?” The most common theology in non-Messianic Christendom answers, “The Church.” But from the olive tree we learn that there are three distinct groups at present who are all in some sense part of God’s people, and no proper theology can ignore any of them:
                (1) Messianic Jews, who are the natural braches that are part of the cultivated olive tree.
                (2) Gentile Christians, the wild olive branches which have been grafted into the cultivated olive tree.
                (3) Non-Messianic Jews, the natural branches which have fallen off the cultivated olive tree but can easily be grafted back in again.
                What I call “olive tree theology” must take into account all three groups, all three kinds of “branches,” in defining and describing the past, present, and future of God’s people.
                But theologians, like other people, want a simple life. The most widespread oversimplification is found in some forms of Covenant theology and is most correctly called Replacement theology. This erroneous theology says that the Jews used to be God’s chosen people; but when they spurned Jesus, God spurned them and chose a new people, the Church to replace them–so that now, the Church receives all of God’s promises and blessings, while the Jews get only the curses. Were this thinly disguised antisemitism true, Paul would have to picture a cultivated olive tree with its root, trunk and branches all dead, and the wild olive braches living by themselves, grafted into nothing alive.
                Unfortunately, Replacement theology is currently gaining strength is several growing movements in Christiandom: Dominionism, Reconstructionism, “Kingdom Now,” and in England, Restorationism. These movements are spreading the correct idea that the Church should not retreat into a ghetto or a fortress mentality, but should bring the presence of the Kingdom into the world, actively attempting to improve life here on earth–actually a very Jewish idea. It is truly a shame that these movements propogate Replacement theology, since they don’t need it to make their point; indeed, many Christians who could benefit are driven away by it. I wish these movements would see that there is no logical connection between their program for improving life on this planet and Replacement theology, and would repudiate the latter.
                In reaction to Replacement theology, the Jews, first the Rambam (Mainomindes, 1135-1204 AD), and later Franz Rosenweig (1886-1929),and after him many Jewish and Christian thinkers seeking good relations between the two faith communities, came up with Two-Covenant theology. This says that Jews are saved by the covenants with Abraham and Moses, while Christians are saved by the covenant with Jesus. Messianic Jews have no place in this picture, even though Yeshua’s first followers were Jewish. Were this correct, Paul would have to describe two separate olive trees, both cultivated, but cultivated differently, with no grafting of branches, and presumably no fallen branches. The main flaw in Two-Covenant theology is that it confuses Jewish national salvation with the personal salvation of individual Jews. The covenants with Abraham and Moses guarantee Jewish national salvation, but only the covenant with Yeshua brings individual salvation, and it is needed today for national salvation as well (2 Cor 1:2).
                In the first half of the nineteenth century there was also a Christian reaction to Covenant theology which has come to be known as Dispensationalism. In this view, both the Jews and the Christians are peoples of God, but their promises differ. There are varieties of Dispensationalism, but in one form the Church’s promises are heavenly and the Jews’ earthly. Paul would have to picture two different kinds of trees–an olive tree and, say, a pear tree. Messianic Jews leaving God’s people of earthly promise and joining God’s people of heavenly promise would, I suppose, be olive branches grafted in to the pear tree–a horticultural an spiritual monstrosity and impossibility! This view arose from a well-meaning attempt to deal with the main problem created by replacement theology, namely, that there are obviously promises in the Tanakh which God made to the Jewish people that were unconditional, not depending on the faithfulness of the Jewish people, promises which God intended to fulfill in the process of returning the Jewish people to faith (see Ezekiel 36 and Jeremiah 31:30-37). Replacement theology overlooks these or misconstrunes them. But Dispensationalism, by separating the futures of the Jews and the Christians, falls short of saying what needs to be said.
                To change the metaphor, let theology picture God as a juggler. Traditional Jewish theology sees God as throwing one ball into the air, the Jews. Christian Replacement theology sees him as having thrown the Jewish ball into the air in the past, but now he has let it fall and is juggling the Christian ball. Two-Covenant theology and Dispensationalism see God as somewhat more coordinated–he can juggle two balls at a time, both the Jews and the Chrsitians. But only “olive tree theology’ credits God with being able to juggle all three balls at once, Gentile Christians, Messianic Jews and non-Messianic Jews, without letting any of them drop to the ground.
                At this point “olive tree theology” is relatively undeveloped. But it is in ferment; theologians are proposing solutions to the problem of who is God’s people that include all three groups and allow for both universal personal salvation and Jewish national salvation only through Yeshua–although no one of these solutions is widely known and taught. Undoing the work of centuries of misunderstanding will require substantial efforts not only in theology but in the reeducation of the components of God’s people (however defined!) to understand who they really are and how they relate to each other and to the Almighty.

                25. For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
                For. The word points forward to the reason, given immediately, why Paul has presented the olive-tree metaphor.
                Brothers. He emphasizes the he considers not only Messianic Jews but also Gentile Christians his brothers in faith, because some of them might have taken resentment at the sharpness of his immediately proceeding remarks (Acts 3:17).
                That ye should be ignorant of this mystery. This whole phrase translates the single Greek word “musterion,” which does not mean “mystery” either in it modern sense of “riddle” or in its ancient Greek “mystery-religion” sense of a secret disclosed only to initiates.
                Why is what Paul says here a secret truth that was not understood until he explained it? Because one would have expected Israel to be the first nation to be saved. Israel has had advantages enjoyed by no other people (Romans 3: 1-2, 9:4-5), the Gospel itself is “to the Jew especially” (1:16 &N), and God has promised Jewish national salvation (Ezek 36:24-36; Matt 23:37-39; Acts 1:6-7). Why, then, is he doing the unexpected, making the Gentiles “joint-heirs” (Eph 3:3-9) with the Jews? In order to give the fullest possible demonstration of his love for all humanity and not Jews only (v. 30-32 below).
                Lest you be wise in your own conciets. Conceited, so that you Gentiles might separate yourselves from Jews and imagine you are better than they are. “Do not be wise in your own eyes; but fear YHVH and depart from evil” (Prov 3:7).
                In part. Greek “apo merous” means “from part, in part, or to a degree.” The literal sense could yield this rendering: Blindness has come upon Israel, stemming from part of it.” Though close to Paul’s point, grammatical considerations exclude it; because in the four other places where the phrase is found in the NT, it has descriptive force. Therefore it should be understood here as modifying “stoniness, hardening, or blindness”; so that translations which read, “Hardness has come upon part of Israel ” (the part that rejects Yeshua) were wrong, even though the statement is true. Paul is focusing not on parts but on wholes. “No man is an island, entire if itself”– all Israel, including the part that accepts Yeshua, is affected by this partial stoniness; for, as the next two clause show, it delays Israel’s national salvation.
                The blindness is not total, because there are and always have been Jews trusting Yeshua. It is wrong to see in the term “partial blindness” a veiled approval of non-Messianic Judaism as superior to the “total blindness” of paganism; that is the opposite of Paul’s point, which is that rejection of Yeshua by people with so many advantages (Romans 9:4-5) demonstrates utter blindness. (This is no new problem for the Jewish people– in the Tanakh God frequently called us stubborn and stiffnecked).
                The passage does not say that God caused the blindness, as he hardened Pharaoh’s heart (Romans 9:17-18) but it does imply that God knew it would happen. Nevertheless, this does not provide an excuse for anyone to remain hardened (see Romans 10:13).
                The Gentile world…in its fullness. Greek pleroma (‘fullness”) probably refers not to number (the full complement of Gentiles to be saved throughout history) but to breadth of representation (Acts 15:14).. Paul wrote when the Gospel mission to the Gentiles was just beginning; but already he foresaw what Yeshua had prophesied, that “this Good News about the Kingdom will be announced throughout the whole world as a witness to all nations (or: “to all Gentiles”), it is then that the end will come (Matt 24:14). Later Yochanan (John) would see in his vision countless multitudes “from every nation and tribe and people and language’ (Rev 7:9). The fullness of the Gentile world comes in when all components and subgroups of humanity are contributing people to the Kingdom.
                The language here recalls Lk 21:24, where Yeshua prophesied distress in the Land and judgment on the people of Israel, with Jerusalem being “trampled down by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles have been fulfilled.” (Plerothosin, “have been fulfilled,” is related to pleroma).
                Be come in, not “has come in.” Greek “eiselthe” speaks simply of an event that will take place, not of the moment when it will have finished taking place. The latter interpretation would excuse laziness in evangelizing the Jewish people, for it implies that little can happen in Israel’s salvation timetable until Gentiles have finished entering the Kingdom. But the entering of the Gentiles in fullness, like any other major historical process, such as the Renaissance or the Industrial Revolution, is an event that necessarily must occupy a considerable period of time. Paul’s prophecy is being fulfilled at this very moment. The Gentiles are entering in their fullness right now. Evangelism has been worldwide for several centuries; parts of the Bible have been translated into some 2,000 languages; a quarter of the world’s population count themselves part of Christendom; and although many unreached peoples remain, the breadth of representation has never been greater. So it is not surprising that with the rise of Messianic Judaism as a conscious worldwide movement within the Jewish people, we are starting to see all Israel saved. All of Israel will be saved at Yeshua’s return (v. 26).
                Metaphorically speaking, the situation has now reversed itself: hardness has come on the Church until the full number of Jews (or: until the Jewish world in its fullness) has come in.

      • How long is it going to take for your people who make wild predictions based on this false Israel prophecy interpretation to realise you are wrong. Someone used to predict the rapture would happen in 1981 and the end in 1988 because he believed that all things would end at the end of a 40 year generation. Well guess what 27 years later we are all still here. Yet it doesn’t come into any ones mind that these beliefs might be flawed but instead you keep making prediction after prediction and its all based on false Jesuit thelogy.

        I just don’t get it.

        • David, we cannot help to understand that the Bible is a Jewish Bible.
          Since you hate us who love Jesus even if He is a Jew, please go and join your Islamic brothers because you do hate us Jews.

        • David, I rely on history to tell me when the Second Coming will be but it has to be history with Israel and the Bible such as man’s life is 120 years which is actually 120 Jubilees. 2016-2017 is the 120th Jubilee.

          Here is why I believe 2016-2017 is the Second Coming and sorry to disappoint anyone, it is based all on history. Since we are using four inches of space, the document is 3 8 by 11 pages so this is a long comment.

          Feast Days 1997-3015 part 4

          Jewish law required two agreeing witnesses to establish a charge (Deut 19:15).

          Folks, according to Woman clothed with the sun in 2017 is the end so 2017 should be the second coming with Armageddon. Enjoy.

          2017 to end Note: Consider each item that you see lining up to 2017 Armagedon as a “witness” or a sign.

          2017 September is the end of Malkhut she beMalkhut (Kingship within (the week of) Kingship). It is the end of the Jubilee year (Leviticus 25:9-10ff).

          2017 Jubilee 120 (6003); Day 6 Rosh Hashanah\Yom Teruah (Day of Trumpet) Sept 21-22; Day 1 Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Sept 30; Sukkot Day 6 15 (Oct 5); Day 5 21 (Oct 11) Torah Calendar.com Luke 4:17-21 The Lord started His ministry on Yom Kippur and will ONLY return on a Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Judgment of the Nations, Ezekiel 38-39 War?, Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff, Rev 19:11ff). He should also return in a year of Jubilee for the Second Coming. http://www.sheepfoldgleanings.com/2014/14_Yom%20Kippur.pdf
          1) Miscellaneous Information Abraham Conceived 1947 BC +2017= 70 AD; 70 AD to 2017=1947 Proclamation of Israel 1947 (Daniel 9:25-26?) Jubilee Information The 7000 Year Plan of Elohim Creation Years 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 Jubilee Years 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 Ps 90:4; 2 Pet 3:8; Isa 58:6; Isa 61:1-11 compares the Millennium with the Sabbatical or Jubilee years. Adam to Exodus 50 Jubilees; Exodus to 2017 = 70 Jubilees. 50+70=120 Jubilees. (333 BCE Jubilee Year Mede and Persian rule ended) In 333 BCE, Macedonian ruler Alexander the Great defeated Persia and conquered the region. 67 Jubilee; (1517 Jubilee Year); 1517-1917 – OTTOMAN RULE (1867 Jubilee Year); 1867 The final emancipation of the Jews from Austria and Hungry http://www.danielstimeline.com/historyofisrael.html
          2) Yeshua ordained as the Cohen Gadol “The Transfiguration” on Yom Kippur\Day of Atonement- on Tuesday, Sept 30, 27 CE and in 2017 on Sept 30th maybe is Armageddon. (The Chronological Gospels–Michael Rood, p. 150 ). Matt 17:1-9; Rev 1:7. Possibly on Yom Kippur possibly at Creation was the sacrifice of the first animal for Adam and Eve. “You shall know the end from the beginning!” Note: Sept. 30th 2017, Day 3, Mercury at its lowest point in its retrograde.
          3) 1917 Jubilee Battle of Jerusalem 1917 + 100 (2 Jubilees)=2017 Year of Jubilee wikipedia. Battle of Jerusalem 1917. 400 years of Ottoman rule ended by British conquest; British Foreign Minister Balfour pledges support for establishment of a “Jewish national home in Palestine”. Declaration of Balfour Nov 2, 1917. Mars in conjunction with Regulus in Leo when in retrograde. What is interesting about this retrograde beginning in Leo then into the head of Virgo and back to Leo is the concept of the Sphinx with the body of a lion and the head of a woman which kicked of the concept of Israel being a nation restored. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf
          4) 1967 Jubilee 6th Day War in Israel Month 4, Day 2 6/11/1967+Jubilee (Lev. 25:9)=2017 Year of Jubilee. Astronomy. Mars in retrograde loop in Virgo. Mars circling in the womb of Virgo between March 10 (L) and June 24 (H) and conjoins with Spica June 6 prophecies of Israel’s rebirth and subsequent rescue from Gentile control. 1900 years after the war with Rome which resulted in the destruction of the Temple. Two different prophecies pointed to the year 1967 for the deliverance of Jerusalem; Daniel’s 2,300 Year Prophecy; “How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed,” Daniel 8:13-14. Reading the context this prophecy was given in, it speaks about a ram with two horns (Media and Persia; Daniel 8:20, and a rough goat, Greece; Daniel 8:21). “And I saw him (the goat) come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand,” Daniel 8:7. This part of the prophecy was fulfilled when Alexander the Great, with an army of 35,000 Greeks and Macedonians, crossed the Dardanelles into Asia Minor in 334 BC and defeated the vast Persian Empire. From that time on, Israel would always be “trodden down by Gentiles,” or under the control of foreign nations. However, Daniel prophesied that the sanctuary (Jerusalem) would be trodden down only for 2,300 days. Applying the Biblical time scale; one day = one year; Ezekiel 4:6, and bearing in mind that there is no date 0 AD, we arrive exactly at 1967! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War – chabad.org/multimedia/timeline_cdo/aid/…/Introduction.htm Miracles of the six day war. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf; http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2014/07/kuma-adonai-arise-oh-god-2499856.html; http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingShemitahJubileeYear57745.html
          5) Return of Ephraim from dispersion. “Ephraim’s punishment as outlined in Ezekiel 4:5 was for three hundred and ninety years. However, Leviticus 26:27-28 says that if there is no repentance the punishment will be sevenfold. There was no record of Ephraim (the Northern Kingdom/House of Israel) repenting, so the punishment was for three hundred and ninety years times seven years, or 2730 years. 734 BC marked the year that Ephraim or the Northern Kingdom had lost all political and religious control of any territory it still held. It had become a vassal state of Assyria. 734 BC+2730=1996 AD. Every feast that year was marked with a red blood moon. It was also the year of the Hal-Bopp comet. It also marked the beginning of the 100th jubilee\yovel year from Noah and the 50th yovel from Yeshua\Jesus. 1996+21 years (3 shemitah years; Leviticus 25:1-9; 7 years differences x 3) = 2017. The Significance of the Blood Moons by Mark Biltz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CSNrXEUCag. Sheepfolds http://www.sheepfoldgleanings.com/2014/14_10 Bechutar Lev 26 3 to 27 34.pdf.
          6) Israel became a nation 1948+70=2018 May 14 or 15; Nov. 29, 1947 Proclamation went out. U.N. divided Palestine into a Jewish\Arab state. Matt 24:32-34 Parable of the Fig Tree. Astronomy. As Mars was completing its retrograde loop, Mars was on conjunction with Regulus (King Star) in Leo. Yeshua was fighting for Israel to become a nation over which He would become a King. Isaiah Prophecy Fulfilled. Israel becoming a nation in one day. 7th Sabbath of Omar count. Sivan 6th, 5948 F.C. Third layer of Daniel’s shavuim commences. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf; http://www.lasttrumpet.org/JubileeReestablishedJPGMJR.jpg
          7) Judah ben Samuel Prophecy Jubilees 1-8 (1517 to 1917): Turks will rule. Jubilee 9 (1917 to 1967): Jerusalem a “no man’s land.” Jubilee 10 (1967 to 2017): Jerusalem under Jewish control, Messianic end times will begin. Jubilee 11: Begins at Yom Kippur 9/30/17. Messianic King arrives.
          8) Woman Clothed with the Sun in 2017 Rev 12:1-2 Virgo and Leo sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sign.pdf The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12 Note: on 3 BC, his link file does not line up with stellarium in 3 or 2 BC. This event occurs either on the fourth or fifth day. Christ Candle or servant candle is on the fourth day so it is interesting that it would be on this day. The fifth day is on Rosh Chodesh or the first sliver of the New Moon. Sept. 22 is on day 6 and is on Yom Teruah.
          9) Giza Pyramids of 2017. sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sphinx.pdf The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12 Rev 19:6-8 Marriage of the Lamb Month 7 Return of Christ on Yom Kippur Day of Atonement Rev 14:14-20 prelude to Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff; 19:11ff). Wheat-Tares cut by a scaythe (Leo’s Tail) Day of Atonment Judgment of the Nations, Armageddon (Matt 25 Sheep and Goats)
          10) Miracle of the Sun 1917 en.wikipedia/wiki/Miracle of the Sun 1917; skeptoid.com/episode.php?id=4110#bottom; http://www.paranormal-encyclopedia.com/u/ufo/sightings/1917/fatima.html. The Miracle of the Sun (Portuguese: O Milagre do Sol) was an event which occurred on 13 October 1917, attended by 30,000 to 100,000 people gathered near Fátima, Portugal.
          The sun then turned blood red in color and seemed to fall from the sky and hurl itself towards the earth.
          Firstly let us observe the spectacular nature of this miracle. We must turn to the Old Testament to find similar prodigies that were performed in front of an immense crowd of people: such as the manifestation of God to Moses and to the Hebrew people on Mount Sinai (Ex 19); or when Joshua stopped the sun and the moon from advancing so that nightfall would not prevent the Jews from exterminating the enemies of Yahweh (Jos 10).
          I will put enmities between thee [the snake] and the Woman [the Virgin Mary], and between thy seed and her seed [Our Lord; the Church]: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel [the persecutions of the Church] (Gen 3, 15).
          This miracle occurred on a Sabbath and it was on the fourth Sabbath of the month according to Torahcalendar.com. Today the Parashah is Bereshit which means “In the Beginning.” Bereshit is also the Hebrew name for the book of Genesis. Today is Shabbat Mevarekhin which means “Sabbath of Blessing.” It is the last Sabbath before the new moon. Shabbat Mevarekhin does not occur in Month 6 as the entire month anticipates the new moon of Month 7. Torah Reading: Genesis 1:1-6:8 Haftarahs Reading: Isaiah 42:5-43:11. Number 7 means completion. The fourth Saturday sabbath is interesting in the fact that it ties into the fourth day of Genesis. Genesis 1:14: The Sun, Moon, and Stars is for signs and seasons. It was also the 7th Sabbath of the month. One hundred years later will be October 13th 2017 and it is on the last annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles on Shemini Atzeret (Leviticus 23:36b; Numbers 29:35) on the sixth day. Today is Shemini Atzeret or the “Eighth Day Solemn Assembly.” Shemini Atzeret is a Sabbath day separate and distinct from Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles. It is an appointed time the day after Sukkot on which Israel assembles. One tradition says Jacob married Rachel on this day. Torah Deuteronomy 14:22-16:17; Haftarahs 1 Kings 8:54-66; Extra Readings Numbers 29:35-30:1. Since this is the solemn day of Assembly for Israel, it will be in the Messianic Kingdom for them and it will be a new beginning for one and all. This is the sixth sabbath of the month and 3rd annual sabbath.
          Shemini Atzeret ties into the end of the universe and the globe in 3015. Why because this ties into Revelation 21/22: A New Heaven and a new earth which ties back in Matthew 24:35 Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away.
          The connection is on the Eighth Day. In Hebrew, numbers are important Bullinger and Numbers. The number eight means a new beginning.

          11) 70th Jubilee Prophecy The number 70 is a prophetic number. Daniel the prophet spoke of 70 sevens that must be fulfilled in order for redemption to come. 2447 1415 BCE Moses dies at 120 years (Deut 34:7) Spies return from Jericho with a report (Joshua 2:23-24) A Jubilee is 50 years (49 + 1); the fiftieth year is also the 1st year of the next cycle. From circa 1415 BCE when Joshua son of Nun entered the land to 2016 CE is 70 Jubilee’. Be ready; as a wise virgin. 2478 1414 BCE Abib אביב‎ 10 Jubilee count begins Joshua (‘Yahovah saves’)leads Israel into “the promised land” Joshua 3:17 “And the priests that bare the ark of the covenant of יהוה stood firm on dry ground in the midst of Jordan,” Joshua 4:1 “children of Israel encamped in Gilgal, and kept the passover on the fourteenth day of the month at even in the plains of Jericho. And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of the old corn of the land; neither had the children of Israel manna any more; but they did eat of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year.” Joshua 5:10,12 walkinthelight.ca/timeline.htm; http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingShemitahJubileeYear57745.html
          Note #1: the Jubilee year is only celebrated when the majority of Jewish people live in the land of Israel – this has now been fulfilled! …Note #2: Jubilee means a time of celebration which begins with a “trumpet blast” throughout the land – the year of Jubilee is also prophetic of both redemption (Rapture) and judgment (Tribulation). The next Jubilee year starts Elul 29, starting the Jewish year 5777, which also represents the eve of the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashana at sundown September 14, 2015…here we have a double trumpet blast (both having the meaning of redemption) starting with the beginning blast of the Jubilee and ending with the Tekiah ha-Gadol, the final great long blast of Yom Teru’ah – could 1 Corinthians 15:52 be a possibility? …Note #3: There will have been 40 complete Jubilee cycles following Christ’s death. The typology of 40 is interesting as it relates to the relationship between “forty” and the fulfillment of promises. Many “40” typology is displayed in the Bible, with the most significant type of all in the forty years of wilderness wandering by the children of Israel leading up to the possession of the temporal land of promise. To be more specific, the exodus out of Egypt and into the promised land by the children of Israel under Moses is a direct shadow of the exodus of the New Testament generation from the cross to the entrance into the eternal land of rest, our heavenly home. In Joshua chapter 6, with the destruction of Jericho at the end of the FORTY year exodus. SEVEN priests, with the Ark of God in the midst, marched with seven trumpets around the wall of Jericho for 6 days. ON the SEVENTH DAY they marched around SEVEN TIMES. At the close of the march, the trumpets were blown, the people shouted, and God caused the walls of Jericho to collapse. The victory was COMPLETE. The events of Jericho offered a graphic image and actual prophecy of events at the CLOSE of the Jewish age, FORTY years after Pentecost…in additional to the “40” type or shadow, the Trumpet blast may also be a shadow of the Last Trump, AND the Seven Priests, Seventh Day and Seven Times [777], could shadow the year 5777, AND the close of the Jewish age a foreshadow of the close of the Church age. Could these types and shadows be a foreshadow of the 40 Jubilee cycles, close of the Church age, and the sounding of the trumpet where the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed, redeemed and enter the promised land, Heaven, the Kingdom of God and the Eternal State?…”Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the (which) DAY or the (which) HOUR” Matthew 25:13 http://www.watchmansview.com/Blood_Red_Moons.html
          12) Covenant Cycle
          A covenant cycle is found in Matthew 1:17 with 14 generation plus 14 generatiions plus 14 generations. Now Matthew used Psalm 90:10 where a generation is 70 or 80.
          70×14=980 years where as 80=1120 years. Two 80 generations puts us into 2240 years which is way too long for our lord’s return. Here is the coputation for 70 generation. 2×980=1960. So if we use 2×980=1960 +70 (Temple destruction)=2030 29 ce (Death of Christ) +1960=1989+33=2022. 27 CE (Ministry Start of Yeshua)+1960+33 (Death of Yeshua age)=2019. 27 CE+1960=1987. 1987 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎). 27 CE +1960+30 (Age of Yeshua at the start of His ministry) = 2017.
          http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt13.html; Perry Stone on Sid Roth Tsunamis, Blood Moons and End of Times beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2015/05/blood-moons-and-end-time-prophecy-perry-stone-with-sid-roth-radio-interview-2468942.html; bibletime.com/theory/generation
          A generation can be 20, 40, 50, 70, 80, 100. To prove our case, we use most if not all of them.
          At 10 years, we have this event if 2017 is the end. 2008 Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎)CE Solar eclipse 1st day Abib; Dow Jones Industrial Average falls 777.7 points. Recession for America.
          At 20 years, we have these events: 1997 CE Hale-Bopp Comet at Passover; Kyoto Protocol initially adopted Dec. 11/97 Kyoto, Japan, entered into force on 16 Feb. 2005.
          1998 Modern Israel’s Jubilee.
          At 40 years we have this event: 1978 CE Camp David Peace Accord include framework for comprehensive peace in the Middle East and proposal for Palestinian self-government; Israel withdraws from the Sinai peninsula; Egypt recognizes Israel; Sept 18.
          An interesting fact is that the Liberty Bell–the iconic symbol of American Independence–was inscribed with Leviticus 25:10, the very Scriptures referring to the year of Jubilee. Though the U.S. has never followed the Jubilee Law, I find it intriguing that the bell received its first crack in 1835, which occurred fifty two years after the American War of Independence ended in 1783. Intense! PITN The Final “Jubilee?” Things are Getting Down to the Wire and it is Only a Matter Of Time Before we Hit the End! Lisa Haven Beforeitsnews.com

      • Alan,

        Exactly – don’t know the day/hour. But He gave us signs and parables.

        1 Thessalonians 5:4, “But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief.”

        The Day is approaching and looks like 5776 is the year.

        Blessings
        Psalm 33

        • Day is easy to know. It is the first sliver of the new moon in the 7th Biblical month (September-October) in the year of Jubilee either in 5776 or 5777 (2016-2017). The Day is called the Day of Trumpet according to Leviticus 23:24ff.

      • to Alan Peters,
        So you too deny Revelation Chapter 11? Forget about the 2 witnesses, go with the math. We are then a year and a half into a 3-1/2 year tribulation and nothing of biblical note has happened. So maybe the bible got it wrong – it will only be a 2-year tribulation… and no witnesses. Not another person suckered into believing a bunch of math over the word of God.
        Simple logic tells us the math is flawed. Just another great sounding prediction that didn‘t pan out.
        Give it up.

      • November 29th was on a Sabbath and it means “And He sent”.
        Today the Parashah is Va-Yishlach which means “And He Sent.”

        Parashah #8 Scripture Readings Va-Yishlach (And He Sent) Torah Genesis 32:3-36:43 Haftarahs Hosea 11:7-12:11 & Obadiah 1:1-21.

        I wonder what this has to do with the forming of dry bones (ie Israel becoming a nation). By the way this was when the proclamtion went out and if you add 70 years to 1947 you get 2017. 70 =ten times completion. 1967 6th day war +50 years = 2017. Battle of Jerusalem was 1917 +100 years and you get 2017. Abraham was born in 1947 BC +2017=70 CE (Destruction of the Temple)+ 1947=2017.
        Question: what is going to happen in 2017? Could it be Armageddon? Could it be the Second Coming? Some say that this will happen in 2016 in September.

        • john

          the tribulation has to start before there is a second coming…..first 6 seals, acc to Matt 24

          • The tribulation started in 2009 according to Renee M when Obama recieved the Norwegian Peace Medallion on the 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles. 2001 was a Shemitah year which caused issues to cause Obama to become president. 2008 was a Shemitah year when Obama got elected as the President. And the rest is history. The 2009 Peace Medallion was a covenant with many.

  8. 1) 88 days and it occurred 88 days after the last full blood moon and 88 days til the next one,
    2) He was conceived on a Sabbath on Dec 22 4 BC and born on the Day of Atonement 3 BC

    DJ Maxwell, where do you find Tammuz in Leviticus 23. You DON’T!!
    IF jESUS was born at Tammuz, then the universe would implode on itself.
    IF He was born at Tammuz, then He shall die at Tammuz and return for the second Coming at Tammuz.
    Jesus is following God’s calendAR nd not man’s calendar you Mithraistic Christian who does not like following God’s calendar found in LEVITICUS 23!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Great earthquake = Lisbon earthquake November 1st 1755 Month 8 Sabbath 4
    Sun darkening = Dark day of May 19th 1780 Not a Sabbath event Does not count worth beans
    Red blood moon = May 19th 1780 This was on May 18th and it was a partial lunar eclipse. Does not count for a Sabbath event
    Stars falling to earth = November 13th 1833 4th Day Rosh Chodesh 9 does count as a Sabbth event.
    And the Son came with clouds to his Father = October 22nd 1844 If this did occur, the entire human race would be dead right now and the rapture had alreday occurred in 1844 and the entire globe missed the boat. So right now the entire human race for today is in the Messianic Kingdom and nobody would have rain on their land because the entire 4 buillion men would be in Jerusalem at Passover, Pentecost, and Feast of Tabernacles yearly. So we know this statement of 1844 is all lies from lying David J.
    David, you are so full of lies that you may burn in the lake of fire and brimstone.

    DJ, your 2017 Shiva is off try Rosh Hashana 2017. Jupiter is in Virgo in the birth canal and Venus, Mercury, Mars makes up the Revelation 12:1-2 event and this ties in Matt 24:31 when the 4 angels are sent to the four corners of the earth when the last trumpet blows and the bride is gathered on the Day of Trumpet. It does not occur at Tammuz like some christians believe who are stupid because they do not understand the Sabbaths.
    Matthew, Mark, and Luke says:The Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. That means that Jesus is conceived on a Sabbath. Nine months later born on an Annual Sabbath, circumcised on a Sabbath. Baptized on a Sabbath. Enters Jerusalem on a Sabbath, Dies at Passover, buried on the first annual Sabbath of Unlieavened Bread, Raised on the Feast of First Fruits Annual Sabbath. Noah’s ark landed on Mount Ararat on Passover. God married mankind at Pentecost. Holy Spirit at Pentecost. Israel becoming a nation 2 days prior to Pentecost. Cross in the corona of the Sun at Pentecost 2014. Lightning coming from the Sun on Rosh Chodesh 10 (Dec 23, 2014) which was a 4th day event. Venus Jupiter conjunction was a 4th day event.
    Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs (Cross in the corona of the sun in 2014 on Pentecost; blood moon tetrads, lightning coming from the Sun on Dec. 23 (Rosh Chodesh 10); March 20th Solar Eclipse on Abib 1; Lunar Eclipse on April 4th, 2015 =Joel 2:31), and for seasons (Lev. 23) and for days (Sabbaths, Rosh Chodesh (first sliver of the new moon), 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles, 4th day of the week), and years (Lev. 25 Shemitah and Jubilee years):
    Lets look at some heavenly events that have happened since 1995. Source: Feast Dates and Second Coming part 2.
    1) Comet Hale-bopp Passover 1997 Longest running comet 19 months.
    2) 2010 7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles. 5 planets lined up in a row.
    3) 2011 Day of Trumpet Comet Elenin breaks up in Leo causing a Revelation 12:1-2 event in September on the first sliver of the new moon.
    4) 2013 Chanukkah/Thanksgiving Comet Ison perihelion (closest approach to the sun). The path through the constellations says Yeshua/Jesus is coming now.
    5)2014 Blood Moon Tetrads near Passover and Feast of Tabernacles; Solar Eclipse; Cross in the Corona of the Sun on Rabbinic Pentecost; Lighting from the Sun on Dec. 23 (Rosh Chodesh 10) on the first sliver of the new moon.
    6) 2015 Solar Eclipse on Abib 1/Nisan 1 Rosh Chodesh 1; Red blood moon on April 4th (Passover); August 17 Nibiru between Earth and Sun supposedly on Rosh Chodesh 6 and we are in its wake on Sept 26 on a Sabbath; Day of Trumpet with first Trumpet judgment (Rev 8:7); Day of Atonement (Asteroid Wormwood and Asteroid by Sea). 3 days of darkness. Nuclear Winter for 6 months.
    7)2017 Woman clothed with the Sun in 2017 and Giza Pyramids of 2017. Feast Dates and Second Coming Part 4.
    Now about the Sabbaths and how they are tied to Yeshua/Jesus. Matthew, Mark, Luke says the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. That means to me that everything occurring with Yeshua will occur on a Sabbath, 4th day, Rosh Chodesh (first sliver of the new moon), full moon, or the 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles.

    If the above occurred on Sabbath’s, Rosh Chodesh, 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles or a 4th day, you can bet that Jesus was definitely not born during Tammuz and that all the Trumpet Judgments and Bowl judgments will occur on either a Sabbath, Rosh Chodesh, 4th day, or 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles.

    David, next time try to line up your events according to Leviticus 23 or Leviticus 25. Shemetah and Jubilees as well.
    This conjunction fell on my watch dates. Nibiru exits on September 26th which was 88 days after this conjunction of Venus/Jupiter which was a 4th day event.

    September 23rd is Day of the lord Trumpet Judgment 2/3/4/5 and this is on day of Atonement. September 13 is Trumpet judgment 1 which is on the Day of Trumpet.

    • Not according to history.

      There was a huge earthquake on 1st November 1755. Millions died. The quake was felt half the world over.

      There was a dark day on May 19th 1780. Newspapers reported that it went dark at 11am that day and stayed dark all day. The stars could not be seen. When the moon came up that night it was blood red all night.

      The stars did fall November 13th 1833 according to the newsreports. This date was the anti typical fulfillment of Trumpet announcing the Day of atonement in 10 prophetic days. Day for a year 10 days equals 10 years. Adventists believe the anti typical day of atonement began October 22nd 1844 when Jesus came with clouds to his Father in the Most Holies.(Daniel 7).

      How dare you call me a liar. What right do you have to judge me? None. I listen to all your Jesuit teachings on here all the time and it doesn’t deceive me. I only follow Historism.

      The seven last years rubbish, the secret rapture ARE all Jesuit doctrines yet 99% of apostate protestants believe it.

      If you stay in Babylon you will burn with her.

      • if all this happened in the 1700s and 1800s, what happened to the wrath of god ( trumpets and vials) and what happened to the millennial reign of christ?

      • David, the whole earth is going to burn. The flood judgment was of water but the second one is fire. No one gets away from this fire.
        Yes, America is destined for Judgment, but so are you no matter where you live in the globe.
        The first trumpet judgment is that 1/3rd of the planet is burned and all the grass in the planet is burned. This did not happen in you day of atonement back in the 1800’s.
        America dies under nuclear war and then is flooded over. But you who live in Europe are destined to get the worst end of the trumpet and bowl judgments.
        According to my minister friend, the majority of the trumpet and bowl judgments will occur in the Bible lands.

        By the way David, I am outside of the Babylon religious system which you are heavily into.
        You David are the one who needs to come out of Mithraism or else you will be destined for the lake of fire and brimstone with the rest of the 90%’ers of humanity.
        One commentator to a video on you tube said the whole globe presently is Babylon.

      • David,
        the seals of Revelation can’t be opened until the fig tree blossoms. The Apostles asked Jesus what would be the signs of His imminent return. How lame must God be to distribute these signs over a 2000 year period?
        Jesus said when you see ALL these things happening then your redemption is near. Get your prophecy straight and in the right order. The second seal is war greater than any before or ever again. So WW2 is out… something bigger looms. And the first seal is the False Prophet, not any antichrist, and he is not in full power yet. He will perform real miracles in the sight of man. Such a man has not yet appeared.
        Face it, your idea is just silly. It only makes it seem like Jesus may never return… all signs, no substance.
        No, when the seals open, even YOU will recognize them.

        • The fig tree blossomed in 1948 when Israel became a nation. According to Psalm 90:10, we are the last generation. The proclamation went out in 1947+70 generation=2017 -1 to 2 years for the trumpet and bowl judgments = 2015. First seal can be the Antichrist or False Prophet. The 2nd seal is WW3 which may start in the Bible lands as some believe. September 23rd is seal 3 including the new world currency coming on October 20th. No more buying and selling for Christians after this in America unless you have a job and all money is gone ovr the next 6 months. Famine hits then for America and then comes death. July 4th was and is the last fourth of July for America. And there is no thanksgiving for America in November.

        • Sorry it has taken so long to answer but I had to think about my answer.

          If you are talking about fig trees then the fig tree of Israel never produced any fruit whatsoever. Jesus saw the fig tree had no fruit and he cursed it, the next day that tree was dead. A year before he saw that tree had no fruit and he told his followers the parabel of the fig tree. He said three years that tree produced no fruit. God said I will cut it down. Jesus said not yet I will put down some fertliser and water and if it produces no fruit next year than cut it down.

          The nation of Israel today produces no fruit either. They don’t trust God. They relie on support from the USA to survive. Where do you think they got all their military supplies from? The money to buy them?

          God isn’t interested in the literal land of Israel as he didn’t set it up. Modern Israel is worldwide and made up of Jews and Gentiles in Christ.

          • david

            you are holding israel to a higher standard than you are the church..

            israel did produce fruit….the early church WAS jewish…. and JEWISH disciplines spread the gospel with fire and winning many souls for their messiah..

            problem was the gentile church took over and crushed the hebrew church….

            israel today is the most moral nation in the world….christian nations have become pagan.

            god will always be interested in Israel…he DID set it up with an everlasting covenant…. and when jesus returns, he is not coming back to paris or new york city….he is returning to jerusalem to save the jews

            • The kingdom was taken away from the Jews and given to others to complete the work.

              The Jewish leaders of Christ’s day sat on their hands with the truth. They did not take the truth to the world but kept it to themselves. Jesus did not go to any school of the day nor did he take any disciples from the religious schools. He picked normal uneducated people.

              Probation for the nation of Israel ended at the end of the 490 years in 34AD at the stoning of Stephen. And their destruction followed in 70AD.

    • Charles,

      I want to make sure you and anyone reading all these replies and comments see this one. It is posted twice. David did a fine job today.

      Mary is told she will conceive and give birth. She is told in the 6th month (the one before Tishrei) as we read in Luke 1:26.

      Do you really think Mary would be waiting any longer then the next period of time to become pregnant (conceive). We are talking about the religious/spiritual calendar, beginning in Nisan. The Feast calendar begins in Nisan.

      Life begins at conception, yes?

      Tishrei – Feast of Taberncles, September 11, 3BC there is a conjunction of King Planet and King Star IN Leo.

      Even the pagans know this?

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dWcARHV71bU

      Conception as He comes to earth in His mother’s womb, Freat of Taberncsles.

      9 months later ——— a day of sorrow is turned into a day of JOY! The King of Judah is born.

      The 17th day of Tamuz marks the beginning of the three-week mourning period leading up to Tisha B’Av.

      In 2015, on the Gregorian calendar, the 17th of Tamuz is – July 4th.

      Wonder why the Mansons picked July 4, 1776?

      The 17rh day of Tamuz begins a time of fasting commemorating the destruction of both the First Temple and Second Temple in Jerusalem; the day has been called the “saddest day in Jewish history”.

      On the 17th day of Tamuz, Moses descended from Sinai with the 10 commandments, and then broke them when seeing the wickedness of the people.

      Why did Moses do such a thing?!

      The people were in full spiritual rebellion before their golden calf.

      A golden calf (bull) is a representation of The Beast!!

      BTW – There is a big gold color bull on Wall Street just a few short blocks from The World Trade Center. Get it? Ask Jonathan Cahn to explain how that fits into his prophetic story.

      Yeshua came to destroy the works of the devil (1st John 3:8).

      Isaiah 53: 3-4 reads:

      “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted” (NKJV).

      But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”. We know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows to a day of joy!

      Luke 2:10-12 records the news.

      “Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger” (NKJV).

      Blessings
      Psalm 27

      • Your history is off DJ.

        If you want this article to see it correctly, e-mail Jardalkal@aol.com “Jesus Birth” in Holidays/Feast of Tabernacles.

        The Feast of Tabernacles and Birthday of Yahshua (Jesus Christ)
        Number English Jewish Days Course of Description of Period Day
        Month Month Priesthood Gestation Days
        1. Mar-Apr Abib 30 Jehoiarib -1 Spring\Barley Harvest
        Jedaiah -2
        2. Apr-May Iyar 29 Harim -3
        Seorim -4
        3. May-June Sivan 30 Malchijah -5 Summer\ Wheat Harvest
        Mijimin -6 Zachariah of the Course of Abijah, Lk 1:5
        4. June-July Tammuz 29 Hakkoz -7 Elizabeth Conceived John 14
        Abijah -8
        5. July-Aug Ab 30 Jeshua -9 Elizabeth 1st month complete 30
        Shecaniah -10
        6. Aug-Sept Elul 29 Eliashib -11 Elizabeth’s 2nd month completed 29
        Jakim -12
        7. Sept-Oct Tishri 30 Huppah -13 Elizabeth’s 3rd month complete 30
        Jesebeah -14 Fall\Fruit Harvest
        8. Oct-Nov Heshnev 29 Bilgah -15 Elizabeth’s 4th month complete 29
        Immer -16
        9. Nov-Dec Chislev 30 Hezir -17 Elizabeth’s 5th month complete 30
        Aphses -18
        10 Dec-Jan Tebeth 29 Pethahiah -19 Elizabeth’s 6th month complete LK 1:36 29
        Jehezekel -20 Chanukkah Virgin Mary’s Vision (1st month)
        11. Jan-Feb Shebet 30 Jachin -21 Elizabeth’s 7th month complete 30
        Gamul -22 Mary’s 2nd month complete
        12. Feb-Mar Adar 29 Delaiah -23 Elizabeth’s 8th month complete 29
        Maaziah -24 Mary’s 3rd month complete
        1. Mar-Apr Abib 30 Elizabeth’s 9th month complete 30
        Spring\Barley Harvest Mary’s 4th month\ Birth of John 280
        2. May-June Iyar 29 Mary’s 5th month complete 29
        3. June-July Tammuz 30 Mary’s 6th month complete 30
        4. July-Aug Ab 29 Mary’s 7th month complete 29
        5. Aug-Sept Elul 30 Mary’s 8th month complete 30
        6. Sept-Oct Tishri 29 Mary’s 9th month complete 15
        Total Number of Days 280
        Note: As per Medical Sciences–It takes 280 days for a healthy male child to be born.

        • John,

          Why would I follow any of the above when you wrote below with such great confidence that the 17th of Tamuz falls on July 5, 2015.

          https://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=3&gm=7&gy=2015&gs=on&g2h=1

          Ya want to debate the 4th of July, 2015 (17th of Tamuz) too?

          July 4, 1776 – the 17th day of Tamuz. Day of Rebellion (Independence). A golden calf (bull) is special to Freemasons too. See Wall Street.

          July 4, 1963 (Gettysburg battlefield with 40,000 wounded or dead) – the 17th of Tamuz.

          You like to debate and contest.

          John, let’s keep it simple and summarize.

          Life begins at conception not at birth. See abortion arguments if you need to understand the concept of conception and life.

          He came to earth at conception.

          This occured during the Feast of Tabernacles, 3BC.

          There is a sign in the heaven on this date (9/11/3BC) Jupiter/Regulus IN Leo.

          9 months later is Tammuz (Tamuz).

          There was a sign in the heavens that day —– NINE (9) MONTHS later. Get it?

          His birth day was on the same date that Moses smashes the tables became a day of great JOY. The Word became flesh as our Messaiah.

          “The Mishnah associates the seventeenth of Tammuz as the “Fast of the Fourth Month,” mentioned by the prophet Zechariah (Zech. 8:19). According to the prophet, when the Mashiach Yeshua returns (may it be speedily in our time), Shivah Asar B’Tammuz will turn into a day full of “gladness and cheerful feasts.”

          http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tzom_Tammuz/tzom_tammuz.html

          He came as a baby on the 17th of Tammuz (Tamuz), 2BC.

          They (and you) missed it.

          The wise men said, “Where is He born king of the Jews?”

          Blessings

          • if herod died in 4 bc, how could jesus be born in 2 bc?

          • You want a debate so here goes using Stellarium again and Torahcalendar. As Marianne and David said this is getting too complicated.
            9/11/3 BC Virgo: Moon, Mercury, Venus, Sun in Virgo. Leo: Jupiter conjoined with Regulus. Day of Trumpet.
            Rev 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
            Rev 12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
            In Heaven is the clue. The woman is Virgo. The child is Jesus.
            The crown of 12 stars is Leo but this part of the puzzle does not occur until Sept. 21, 2017.
            The timeframe is September/October. When is the month of Tammuz in September. It is not you lying DJ.

            Day of Birth Day of Atonement 9/21/3 BC Mercury and Sun conjoined at Spica.

            2/15 (Sabbath) Jupiter conjoined with Regulus in Leo till after 3/1/2 BC. Jupiter is in retrograde since September of 9/11/3 BC.
            5/7/2 (Wednesday) BC Jupiter conjoined again in Leo. No planets in the birth canal of Virgo. For Jesus to be born at this time, you need at least one planet in birth canal of Virgo so DJ, you stupid hypothesis of Jesus being born at this time went down the tube because 1) September is not in Month 2; 2) Rev. 12:1-2 is not in Month 2, 3) You do not know (understand) Leviticus 23 nor do you know (understand) this: The Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath. For Jesus to be Lord of the Sabbath, everything for Him has to occur on the Annual Sabbaths of Leviticus 23 because that entire chapter is all about Jesus because that chapter is the redemptive story of Jesus Christ.

            6/11/2 BC (Wednesday) Venus conjoined with Regulus.
            6/30/2 BC (Monday) Mercury near Regulus in retrograde. Next pass should join. This one does not count.
            7/25/2 BC (Friday) Month of Tammuz. Mars conjoins Regulus with Sun near by and Mercury stalling out in Leo.
            7/28/2BC (Monday) Month of Tammuz. Sun joins Regulus in Leo.
            8/14/2BC (Thursday) Mercury joins Regulus in Leo.
            10/20/2BC (Monday) Moon conjoins with Regulus in Leo.
            7/16/1 BC (Friday) Month of Tammuz. Venus conjoins with Regulus.
            7/27/1 BC (Tuesday) Month of Tammuz. Sun conjoins Regulus.
            8/6/1 BC Mercury (Friday) conjoins Regulus in Leo.

            Notice the two Wednesday’s. This is Day 4 which is a watch date for me because the 4th candle of the Menorah is called the Christ Candle or Servant Candle. Also Creation of the Sun, Moon, and Stars was on the 4th day. Also Jesus was born in 4000 years since creation in the Jubilee 80 timeframe.

            DJ, I use Torahcalendar for all my dates because I can see the whole month whereas you using Hebcal is limited because you can see only 1 day at a time.
            When using Stellarium 3 BC is -2, 2 BC is -1, 1 BC = 0, 1 CE=1 CE and so on.

          • DJ, according to Torah Calendar.com July 5th is Tammuz 17h because it cannot fall on a Sabbath because that breaks a bunch of rules, so when it does fall on a Sabbath, they move it to Sunday.

            6) If the Seventeenth of Tammuz falls out on Shabbat, the fast is postponed until Sunday, as it is forbidden to fast on Shabbat (with the exception of Yom Kippur). http://njop.org/resources/holidays/complete-guide-to-holidays/the-fast-of-17-tammuz-shivah-asar-btammuz/

            These are Jewish rules and also chabad.com/org follows the same guidelines. All Rabbinic/Orthodox/etc follow this guideline.
            I don’t follow it because it is not found in the Scriptures (Tanakh) to fast on this day but if I attend a Jewish Messianic Church that follows it then I follow it to not affend my brethren.

    • Hold it a minute…
      Nibiru exits WHAT on September 26th? Now I know your astrological BS if fake. You are using a fake object in your scenario. And yes, anything that uses the location of planets in constellations of the zodiac to predict earthly events is most definitely ASTROLOGY! If God wanted to give us such signs he would have added a chapter to Leviticus to make everything perfectly clear. And He surely would never have included fake planets!
      I don’t know where you are getting your astrological instructions, but it as heck isn’t from the bible.

      • Genesis 1:14 Sun, Moon, and stars are for signs and seasons (Leviticus 23). Stars includes other stars, constellations, planets (which from the earth are bright stars), days and years (Lev. 25:8-10).

        Stars are also meteors and asteroids, and clusters of planets. Pluto entered our universe 3600 years ago. How did it get here Jim. You have been an astronomer for 50 years so tell me Mr. Astrologer how Pluto was deposited in our universe when it came from some other universe.
        Tell me Mr. Astrologer how the flood occurred and what caused it.
        Tell me Mr. Astronomer how God is going to bring about a meterite storm on the first sliver of the new moon in any given September of which some are saying that it will be this September of 2015.
        According to lying Nasa, we are not due for an Asteroid for at least the next 100 years but why do they want to use nuclear weapons against them now. If they are afraid of something, why worry now and not 100 years from now.
        Jim, I know you believe in the lies of Nasa and the lies of the news stations because you worship them more then the Bible.
        Yes, Jim, you are right that I am obsesed with the Bible, Jesus and God. Moses was obsessed with God after he saw God in action up on the mountain. I am obsessed with Jesus after I saw His body in the flesh by way of a dream. Old men will dream dreams and young men will see visions in the last days. I have been having God dreams since the age of 8.

        • It has been calculated as far back as 1972 that at one time Pluto was a moon of Neptune which at some point was either pulled out of its orbit or knocked out by a passing body. Its orbit does not correspond to Bodes law and it is not gaseous as are all the other outer planets. It is just a space rock like all the other rocky moons of all the other planets that was at first captured by Neptune and then escaped. So what?
          By the way, meteors and asteroids are not stars but small space rocks and dust and there are no “clusters of planets.” Your knowledge of astronomy seems pitiful for someone who relies on it to make biblical predictions.
          As for the flood, it was local – only in the area where God’s people dwelt. God used a force field for the container and a transporter to fill it with water. And why do you ask me how God is going to or has done things? He apparently has the necessary technology to do whatever He wants, so live with it.
          As for the probable asteroid impact of the 6th seal, here is what I am guessing… It will be the work of God. Shocking! Look, if NASA knew there were an asteroid barreling toward earth, they would have let us know by now. After all, they let us know that the asteroid Apophis will come within 200 miles of the earth’s surface:
          April 13, 2029 close approach was flagged by NASA’s automatic Sentry system and NEODyS.
          So NASA IS up front with such things. But consider this; what if the 6th seal were predicted many years in advance so the whole world knew it was coming? Well, when it hit, no one would think it to be the work of God, would they? Just another asteroid strike.
          But what if Apophis were given a slight “angelic nudge” just as it approaches earth? Clearly an unexplainable act of God.
          As for NASA being liars, don’t forget you depend on them for everything you see in your astronomy program, so if there were a great NASA conspiracy they would make sure that all your calculations are way off, so be careful who you don’t trust or else it will come back to kick you in the ass.
          As for “Jesus dreams” I don’t put any stock in the dreams of others. And you can’t see anything “in the flesh” in a dream – they are opposing concepts.
          But if God did send you dreams He would not have told you to ignore the bible in favor of astrology, and if He gave you these ideas, then He is wrong about His own prophecy.
          And I seriously doubt that!

          • NASA is upfront?.. ha…

            also:
            “It has been calculated as far back as 1972 that at one time Pluto was a moon of Neptune which at some point was either pulled out of its orbit or knocked out by a passing body. ”

            GEE i wonder what passing object that was….. 🙂

          • According to the Nibiru folks, that passing body was supposedly Nibiru and by their calculations, the last time Nibiru passed by was 3600 years ago at the time of the flood.
            Me, some passing body caused the flood, the pole shifts in the history of the earth, and according to these Nibiru folks, the meteorite storm which is Trumpet Judgment one and the wormwood Asteroid and asteroid by Sea which is Trumpet Judgment 2 and 3? will be caused by some kind of passing body or planet or clusters of planets otherwise known as Wormwood or the Destroyer.

            The flood was local. Really Jom, how stupid you can be. I live in the mountains, 1800 feet above sea level and I find fossils deposited by the flood on my property all the time. I have found encased seashells, impressions of seashells, one 1 pound rock which my housemate and I believe that it was branch at one time. Small stms from a tree or shrub. I live in the USA in NM.

            • So are you saying that a planet supposedly four times the diameter of the earth has passed by us, without any effect, nor any mention on the news? So if it has passed then it will not be a trumpet judgement, so what was it’s significance?
              Asteroids are plentiful but rogue planets or clusters of planets or brown dwarf solar systems orbiting our sun are just nonsense. It is clear to me you have never taken even an introductory class on astronomy. You with an astronomy program is like a 3-year old driving a Ferrari.
              Nor do you seem to know j.s. about geology either. I have taken five college geology class trips to your area (from here in California) and I know exactly why there are marine fossils in your area. They exist atop mount Everest, the Matterhorn and the Rocky Mountains and thousands of other mountains as well. At some point these areas were below sea level and were raised to their current heights by tectonics. But I won’t give you my 135 units of geology in one reply, it is above your pay grade. Your view of earth processes is restricted to one event – a mythical worldwide flood. If water covered Everest 5000 years ago it would still be here. Where would 7 miles of water all disappear to? Check any science book. There is no geologic record of a worldwide flood. (You Tube idiots not included). Scientists have been trying to prove it for hundreds of years with no luck, so don’t you say you can prove it right in your back yard. I suppose you believe Carlsbad Caverns were also formed by the flood? And White Sands was an ancient beach resort? So you explaining geology is like… well you remember the Ferrari.
              The trumpet judments will be a meieor shower, common but not dangerous but likely the most spectacular ever… a volcanic mountain collapsing into the sea causing a tsunami… (most likely Cumbra Vieja) and a large meteor strike – large enough to kick up enough dust to darken the sun, moon and stars, but not an extinction level event.(Perhaps Apophis).
              So we don’t need no stinking Nibiru to fulfil the prophecy just fine and dandy. What we have on hand will do nicely. Latching on to a mythical object only proves to God you are unwilling to use the brain He gave you to find out if a prophecy is true or false.
              You are willing to do your bible homework but you leave the rest to You Tube idiots.
              Do you think God will be pleased with that?
              Not me.

            • The flood was approx. 4400 years ago.

  9. DJ or David 17th of Tammuz in 2 BC was just one of the 4th day conjunctions of which there were 8 of. Check stellarium in Leo at Regulus from September 21, -2BC (which is 3 BC) which was Day of Atonement for the Birth of Jesus and look at the Sun and Mars entering Spica in Virgo on this day. Most Biblical Astronomy scholars say it was Day of Trumpet 3 BC (Sept 11th, 3 BC) but no planets were in the birth canal of Virgo.
    Then one month later begin your checking because the wise men (Astronomers) do not show up until Jesus is 2 years old and they arrive at Bethlehem when there are two planets conjoined at Regulus in Leo on a Sabbath. The rest of the conjunctions are on the 4th day and there are 8 conjunctions. 8 means a new beginning. 7 means completion and 9 means final completion.

    • You are talking absolute rubbish. How can Jesus be born after the death of Herod?

      • David, I am one of the one’s who believe Herod died in 1 BC.

        Editor’s addition, 2011-12-25: At The Date of Herod’s Death: The Errors Corrected Murrell Selden writes:

        “There has been considerable confusion among scholars as to the date of the death of Herod the Great. However, this writer believes the matter to be simple. This writer tries to find the date, assuming the traditional date of Shebat 2 for his death. The chief problem has been in finding the correct year. This writer uses the reference information from Antiquities of the Jews by Josephus … My anchor for dating the regnal years for Herod the Great is a well known date, the battle for the Roman Empire at Actium. … Based upon the writings of Josephus (which appear to be mostly accurate), the anchor date of the war between Antony and Octavius Caesar, and calculations of relevant lunar events, it appears that Herod the Great died on January 26 (Shebat 2) in 1 B.C.E.”

        The Length of Herod’s Reign
        Here is how the Jewish historian Josephus describes the timing of Herod’s death:
        So Herod, having survived the slaughter of his son [Antipater] five days, died, having reigned thirty-four years, since he had caused Antigonus to be slain, and obtained his kingdom; but thirty-seven years since he had been made king by the Romans [War of the Jews, 1:33:8 (665); cf. Antiquities of the Jews 17:8:1 (191)].
        In this place, Josephus dates Herod’s death by three events:
        Five days after the execution of his son Antipater.
        Thirty-four years after he “obtained his kingdom” (i.e., conquered Jerusalem and had its Hasmonean king, Antigonus, killed).
        Thirty-seven years after “he had been made king by the Romans.”
        The death of Antipater isn’t a particularly helpful clue, but the two ways of reckoning the length of his reign are.
        First, though, we need to answer one question . . .

        How Is Josephus Counting Years?
        Kings don’t tend to come into office on New Year’s Day, and so they often serve a partial year before the next calendar year begins (regardless of which calendar is used).
        They also don’t die on the last day of the year, typically, so they also serve a partial year at the end of their reigns.
        This creates complications for historians, because ancient authors sometimes count these additional part-years (especially the one at the beginning of the reign) as a full year.
        Or they ignore the calendar year and treat the time that a king came into office as a kind of birthday and reckon his reign in years from that point.
        What scheme was Josephus using?
        Advocates of the idea that Herod died in 4 B.C. argue that he was named king in 40 B.C. To square that with a 37-year reign ending in 4. B.C., they must count the part year at the beginning of his reign and the part year at the end of it as years. That’s the only way the math will work out.
        The problem is that this is not how Josephus would have reckoned the years.
        Biblical chronology scholar Andrew E. Steinmann comments:
        [T]here is no evidence for this [inclusive way of reckoning the partial years]–and every other reign in this period, including those of the Jewish high priests, are reckoned non-inclusively by Josephus [From Abraham to Paul, 223].
        In other words, Josephus does not count the partial first year when dating reigns in this period.
        Knowing that, what would we make of Josephus’s two ways of dating Herod’s reign?

        Herod Appointed King
        As we saw in the previous post, Josephus gave an impossible date (one that did not exist) for Herod’s appointment as king.
        He said it was in the 184th Olympiad, which ended in midyear 40 B.C. and that it was in the consulship of Calvinus and Pollio, which began in late 40 and extended into 39.
        Those can’t both be right, but one of them could be.
        Which?
        The evidence points to 39 B.C., because we have another source on this: The Roman historians Appian and Dio Cassius.
        Appian wrote a history of the Roman civil wars in which he discusses the appointment of Herod in the midst of other events.
        By comparing this set of events to how they are dated in Dio Cassius’s Roman History, it can be shown that the events in question–including the appointment of Herod–took place in 39 B.C.
        Given how Josephus dates reigns in this period, he would not have counted Herod’s partial first year in 39 B.C. but would have started his count with 38 B.C.
        Count 37 years forward from that and you have 1 B.C.

        Herod Conquers Jerusalem
        As we saw in the previous post, Josephus gives contradictory dating information for Herod’s conquest of Jerusalem.
        Some of the dating information he provides points to 37 B.C. and some points to 36 B.C.
        Josephus said Herod died 34 years after the event.
        Bearing in mind that Josephus wasn’t counting partial first years, that would put Herod’s death either in 2 B.C. (if he conquered Jerusalem in 37) or in 1 B.C. (if he conquered the city in 36).
        There are various ways to try to resolve which, but some are rather complex.
        At least one, however, is quite straightforward . . .

        Herod’s Lunar Eclipse
        We saw in the previous post that Josephus said Herod died between a lunar eclipse and Passover.
        While there was a partial lunar eclipsed before Passover in 4 B.C. there was a total lunar eclipse before Passover in 1 B.C.
        Further, the lunar eclipse in 1 B.C. better fits the situation Josephus describes (see the previous post for details).
        Since 4 B.C. is outside the range indicated above, and since the 1 B.C. lunar eclipse fits the situation better, that lets us decide between 2 B.C. and 1 B.C. in favor of the latter.
        There was no lunar eclipse in 2 B.C., pointing us toward 1 B.C.

        Final Answer?
        Putting together the pieces above, we have:

        Reason to think Herod died in 1 B.C. based on the amount of time he served after being appointed king by the Romans.
        Reason to think Herod died in either 2 or 1 B.C. based on the amount of time he served after conquering Jerusalem.
        Reason to think Herod died in 1 B.C. because of the lunar eclipse that occurred before Passover.

        More specifically, he would have died between January 10, 1 B.C. (the date of the lunar eclipse) and April 11, 1 B.C. (the date of Passover).
        Most likely, it was closer to the latter date, since Josephus records a bunch of things Herod did after the eclipse and before his death, some of which required significant travel time.
        There is also one more reason that we should reject the death of Herod in 4 B.C. in favor of a 1 B.C. date . . .

        We Know When Jesus Was Born
        We don’t have to restrict our knowledge of when Herod died to the sources and events mentioned above.
        We can also date his death relative to the birth of Christ.
        For some reason, moderns seem to think that the dating of Herod’s death should govern when Jesus was born, but the logic works both ways: If we know when Jesus was born, that tells us something about when Herod died.
        And we, in fact, have quite good information about the year in which Jesus was born.
        It was after 4 B.C., ruling out that date.
        So . . . what year was Jesus born?

        Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/jesus-birth-and-when-herod-the-great-really-died/#ixzz3exaKpmLq

        Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/blog/jimmy-akin/jesus-birth-and-when-herod-the-great-really-died/#ixzz3exZy1byl

  10. The truth is that there was an almost identical conjunction last year on Aug 18th.
    But nothing has happened in the meantime and Christ did not return on this conjunction either, so obviously this conjuntion(s) is not supposed to mimic the first one. And you are not expecting the Second Coming until 2017, which is no longer possible due to a lack of biblical signs.
    So if indeed this was a sign, it is for the future… soon, but not right away – just as the fig tree prophecy was a sure sign that happened over 60 years ago.
    Putting your faith in numerology and astrology/astronomy at the expense of real biblical signs is risky at best and in this case has proven incorrect. You need to get out of your astronomy program and back into the bible and be patient for the actual signs of the Second Coming to arrive.
    Tell me, do you have a “must happen by” date at which point if nothing biblical has yet happened that you will finally give up this theory? Or will you wait till Sep 26, 2017, perhaps standing outside on the 25th looking up for the return of Jesus? I mean at some point it should become obvious, even to you, that it just ain’t gonna happen, so I’m just wondering what you need to happen by which date before you admit failure?
    Anything?

    • Dear skeptic, I put my faith more in the Bible than you putting your faith in your 6 hours a day watching news stations who lie to you 24/7.

      • John,
        Mars in Spica? Really? Where did you pull that out of? You have replaced half the bible with astrology. You can’t prove a single incidence of any planet being in any constellation on any given day through the bible. Where do you get this nonsense? Did you make it up yourself or did you get it from some internet “expert” on biblical astrology?
        Pure rubbish. Not a speck of truth. God does not work through astronomy programs created ten years ago. He works thru the bible so anyone can read and understand. And the bible has already proven your theory to be wrong.
        You are a false prophet and leading people down a dangerous and disappointing road. 20 years ago this idea had a chance, but that chance is over.
        Give it up… move on.

        • Stellarium which is a free astronomy program. I do not use astrology because it is condemned by God.
          I take stellarium, then record all the dates an event happens and then go to Torahcalendar .com to see what day of the week it landed on and then compose a paper from there using Ballenger’s Witness in the Stars and another Biblical source that is full of scriptures when a planet is in a certain location. And I keep it all biblically based so when I compose an article I usually go through 1 8×11 page for each planet in each constellation which may have over 300 verses and then I narrow that down to a single line such as this note on the path of a comet through our solar system.

          Comet 2013 R1 Lovejoy
          Lovejoy begins his birth in the head of Eridanus on May 1st, Month 2, Day 4, 2013 where he becomes the Judge over Earth. He now becomes a triumphant glorious Prince who is also a mighty warrior. He rides in on a white horse. He is the Redeemer of man. He binds His chosen into His house as He binds the unacceptables to Hell. His chosen are now in His sheepfold. He now hunts down Satan and his followers. He is crowned the King and she a Queen. Satan is cast into the Dungeon for 1000 years (Rev. 20:1-2). The King is victor over Satan and his dominion. He shields His chosen from the enemy. Satan as Scorpio is defeated.
          The comet ends its life supposedly on November 2, Month 8, Day 1, 2014.

          It takes about 12 hours to compose a simple paragraph such as this. Each sentence has about 100-200 scriptures tied to it.

    • Because their theology is all based on false interpretations.

    • Actually, August 18th Venus and Jupiter conjined in Cancer. Mercury and the Sun were in Leo and Mercury almost cojoined with Regulus but it was on the 15th. I use Stellarium as blow by blow playback. Next time get your information correct.

  11. But the antichrist is not in the scene yet and there are other signposts such as the ten supernations (10 toes on Nebu’s statue ) of Daniel whose kings give their crowns to the antichrist – see club of rome 10 supernations plan.

    Plus there also needs to be a one world electronic currency system for economic survival. The mark of the beast given to those who worship him is not yet in place . I dont see the final 70th week as having started.

    • Antichrist existed in John’s day.

      I agree the ten toes is not fully manifested yet though it is being built as we speak.

      United Nations anyone?

      The dragon, beast and false prophet are systems not people.
      The dragon = spirituality(paganism)
      The beast = Catholism
      False Prophet = Protestantism(apostate mainly in the USA)

      • David, you and I may not see eye to eye on some things but I agree with this short sweet comment and it is being postes to Feast Dates and Second Coming part 3. I will be posting the two different views of the ten toes with this comment.

        One World Government: NWO Ten Kingdoms: 1 (America, Canada, Mexico); South America; (Australia, New Zeland); Western Europe; Eastern Europe; Japan; South Asia; Central Asia; (N. Africa, Middle East); Remainder of Africa. These may change. Under each of these, it is divided into ten divisions and ten subdivisions, etc.

        Here is ISIS’s proposed 10 Muslim regions without the 3 Christian nations that must be taken over:
        1-Anatolia (Turkey); 2-Kurdistan; 3-Gogaz, (C.I.S, which includes Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, and Uzbekistan)
        4-Khorasan (Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and possibly Indonesia); 5-Iraq; 6-Sham (Syria, Lebanon); 7-Qinana (Egypt, Sudan and Somalia)
        8-Maghreb (which includes Libya, Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco and Mauritania); 9-Yemen; 10-Hijaz (which includes the Gulf States)
        **If the regions are at 10, then we must keep an eye on this because we Could / Might be looking at what the Bible prophesied about in Daniel and Revelation. However if the number goes up to the desired 13–or any other number– then we have nothing to worry about…at least for the time being…

        • I only named the religous aspects of the Satanic trinity.

          Whatever the dragon is at the end of time it must be a world wide power. According to Revelation 17 this power has not yet arrived. You see I believe the 7th kingdom and the ten horns are one and the same.

          The only entity on earth at present that fits is the United Nations. When it has its full power it will give that power to the Pope and the Vatican. Why would they do that? Because of the threat of Islam. Radical Islam to be more exact. This threat is bringing the world together. It is a catalyst. Time of probation on this world is running out.

          1973 Club of Rome had the Earth divided into ten regions. Incidentaly and I don’t know if this means anything but FEMA has divided the entire US into ten regions also.

          http://iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist.com/2013/02/13/united-states-divided-into-10-districts-in-emergency-fema-camp-bill-resurfaces-in-congress/

          • David I agree with you but I still have to have an open mind that Obama may be the Antichrist. Jim believe the Pope will fill both the position of the Antichrsit and False Prophet. He believes they are the same one entity.
            Catholicism began Islam because Mohammad loved his Catholic wife so she influenced him to do the Quran and do what he did.

            UN may or will be the political controller of the 10 global regions but Obama in 2016 wants to become the head of the UN in 2016.
            We shall know in September who will be the Mahdi because some Rabbi is saying that the Messiah will show up in Sept. of 2015 and we know that character as the Antichrist.

            Chaarles, the one world currency starts October 20th, 2015. You American money that you use now is adios as of September. Also I suspect that all your money will be gone from your bank possibly by the 4th week of August or sometime in September.
            Mark of the Beast is slated for 2016 for the globe.

            • They are systems not persons or people though people are part of it.

              The polictical aspects of the satanic trinity are:
              Dragon = UN
              Beast = Vatican
              False Prophet = USA

    • Charles,

      The Beast is a system – it is an operating system built and managed by Lucifer.

      His plans are hidden in plain sight. Most Christians are spiritually blind and most are asleep.

      He system was built over generartions and crosses oceans. English is the world’s language. Or simply speak into a phone with app and translate.

      The Beast has accomplished a great deal in the past 240 years, picking up speed in the past 100 years. The Beast set up 9/11 and 7 years later we get Barry (2008).

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVaDL8UQgB0

      The Beast’s system is ready to receive the son of perdition (“all seeing eye”).

      The Day of the Lord is at hand (Hebrew year 5776), which begins September 15, 2015.

      The Blood Moon over Jerusalem is on September 28, 2015.

      Want a clue as so who sits on their pyramid?

      He is standing in front of a portrait of Abe Lincoln. Listen. He is telling us that he hates God, indirectly, by comparing himself with an fictional president who does.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c81XKXaKULU

      It all begins very soon. The Day comes as a thief in the night to most.

      Blessings
      Psalm 27

  12. The antichrist spirit was in John’s day but the antichrist will be a person – this is clear from the bible.
    The UN temple has 11 seats – one for each king and one for the antichrist.

    The dragon equates to the devil , the beast to the devil’s antichrist and the false prophet is the devil’s john the baptist. So they are three persons
    opposed to Jesus which will be manifest soon when the signs are in place.

    Apostate christianity will be deceived by these three with lying signs and wonders.

  13. Children of God,

    I usually don’t comment on prophesy stuff because truthfully I haven’t been given much. I hear you all and take it all in and I know you all mean very well. I say this by faith. For me, as a Child of God (maturing everyday) I know: He has told me not to worry so much about all this judgement because it doesn’t concern me. However, I see and feel all this PRIDE in my fellow believers.

    I am not inferring that we should discuss these things but keep this in mind.

    This pride is your own understandings. Leave this to Christ and look to HIM as the only ONE. He will give you peace and understanding. The pride could be in man (worldly knowledge), religion (also man) or your own pride that YOU know something. REPENT! Look only to Jesus (YHWH), look to the unseen and unheard of message. If you have HIM then you will know what to do when the time comes. Again, REPENT don’t rely on this worldly stuff and look to Jesus.

    This scripture keeps coming up for you. Ecc 1:9 “That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.” Look at the past examples of how God has worked and know this is all for us today. People who have ears let them hear and people who have eyes let them see.

    Prov 27:18 “Whoever tends a fig tree (Israel- YHWH) will eat its fruit, and he who guards his master (Jesus is the master) will be honored. 19 As in water face reflects face, so the heart of man reflects the man.” So when you look at this world or yourself it will reflect you or this world. When you look at man’s heart it will reflect man. Look at Christ and see the truth.

    I’m not sure who has “it” or not but there are many that look to man and their own knowledge for answers. He is coming and soon. Praise the Lord for He is good. Don’t look for your understanding or your works (religion) it has never been about that only “trust in the Lord” with all your heart (will).

    Peace

    CV

    • Sorry, there is nothing I can learn from your comment it makes no sense to me. Are you implying that we just sit on our butts, don’t look for the signs and wonders that YHVH gives us as a warning, don’t be alert to the dangers we are already in, and don’t be prepared for the worst that is coming upon the face of this Earth .. and that when the Tribulation descends on us in a blink of an eye – we are just going to be taken up by YHVH into the heavens? Forget about the rapture because everyone has to go through a final refining.

      My friend, you are still not fully awake, but drowsy .. Wake Up and read the prophecies in the Bible – read the past history – for history repeats itself – it NEVER dies – and its going to repeat again. Sadly, majority of Americans are still either fast asleep or very drowsy. It is their pride, neglect and worldliness that makes them that way. [“Behold, I come like a thief. Blessed is he who watches (remains alert) and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.” Rev.16:15] Would you like to be in this group? Because the KING is coming like a roaring ferocious Lion, with fiery eyes and a fiery two-edged-sword to punish the wicked.

      • In each generation there is always two classes of worshippers manifested. The easiest one to understand is the story of Cain and Abel. God told them to bring a sacirfice. Abel brought a burnt offering and Cain brought a thanks offering. God accepted Abel’s and rejected Cain’s. Why? Because Abel obeyed God’s instructions. Cain got jealeous because of this seeing he was the elder and killed his brother. Abel represents righteousness by faith whereas Cain represents righteousness by works.

        That is in essense the everlasting Gospel at work. God’s work in producing two classes of worshippers through a prophetic message. It is the same in every generation listed in the Bible. Including this last generation. The issue in our generation is are you going to worship according to what God says or what man says?

        Daniel 3: Everybody saw the image on the plains of Dura being built. They weren’t kept in the dark, nor was it secret. Everybody had a chance to develope their character. But that character was only made manifest at the time the king commanded everyone to bow down and worship the image. Out of a whole crowd only three dared to oppose that command of the king and they were thrown into the fire. Only by the intervention of God were they saved.

        Daniel 6: The enemies of Daniel were jealous that Daniel was made the head of government by the king so they had the king pass a law that was contradictory to Daniel. Again it was only by God that he was saved, he sent an angel to protect Daniel from the lions. The king knew he had been tricked into signing a bad law and tried everything he could to save Daniel from the lions but was forced into doing it because any law passed by a Medo-Persian king was un-doable. The next morning the king went to see if Daniel was dead to find he was still alive. The king ordered Daniel out and ordered the jealous men to be cast in to the lion’s den along with their families and children and they were all torn to pieces by the lions.

        The lesson: If you trust God and obey him 100% you have nothing to fear from man.

        • Daniel was a holy and righteous man chosen by YHVH to be a prophet. You are not only contradicting the Word of YHVH but going by your own understanding which is anathema so my question is: Are you like Daniel or even close to being like him? Are you truly following the Word and Ways of YHVH? Are you set-apart (holy) to be saved like Daniel was? On this you have to examine your conscience.

          • what is wrong with what david said?

            having a hard time following this conversation…

            • Re: David’s quote: .. “The lesson: If you trust God and obey him 100% you have nothing to fear from man”.

              Obey how? by contradicting and Interpreting the Scriptures by his own understanding? Read all his comments again. He can not and should not compare the Prophets of the Bible with us, while Daniel was a holy man who was one-on-one with the Creator, he was worthy of YHVH’s protection so who are we all, can Daniel or any other Prophet be compared to us? That’s wrong.

              • Please real 1st Cor 10:11.

                • I Cor 10:11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
                  Upon whom the ends of the world are come or “latter days” Numbers 24:14; Deuteronomy 4:30, 31:29; Jeremiah 23:20, 30:24, 48:47, 49:39; Ezekiel 38:16; Daniel 2:28, 10:14; Hosea 3:5) and “end of days” (Daniel 12:13). Since the Messiah has already come once, we are at least living in the beginning of the End Times, awaiting his return at the end of the End Times. This translation accords also with rabbinic usuage, for they used Hebrew Ketz (“end”) to mean the end of this age and the beginning of the Messianic Age. A more literal rendering is: “upon whom the goals and fulfillments of the ages has come,” and this is not inconsistent with what has been said here.

    • cv

      i agree that “thinking” should be in line with scripture and not go out of control . we should all evaluate our comments in the wisdom the holy spirit gave us before we write just anything down..

    • CV,

      Amen.

      “The Lord looks down from heaven;
      He observes everyone.
      He gazes on all the inhabitants of the earth
      from His dwelling place.
      He alone shapes their hearts;
      He considers all their works.
      A king is not saved by a large army;
      a warrior will not be delivered by great strength.
      The horse is a false hope for safety;
      it provides no escape by its great power.
      Now the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him—
      those who depend on His faithful love
      to deliver them from death
      and to keep them alive in famine.
      We wait for Yahweh;
      He is our help and shield.
      For our hearts rejoice in Him
      because we trust in His holy name.
      May Your faithful love rest on us, Yahweh,
      for we put our hope in You” (Psalm 33:13-22, HBSC).

  14. How God brings about His will is beyond our human understanding – but the restoration of Israel in unbelief is prophecied many times eg in Ezekiel – the prophecy of the dry bones.
    The convenant with the remnant of Abraham must be completed. It does not rest on human thinking or judgment.
    The fact that God brought Israel into existence is a miracle but also the fig tree was cursed since it produced no fruit.
    Paul says only a remnant of Israel would be saved – those who accept Jesus – and this grieved him so much that he even offered the loss of his soul if he could save his Jewish brothers.

    The temple when built will be where the antichrist reigns from – ” he shall sit in the temple and call himself god ”
    Armageddon will be fought in Israel – so all the prophecies about Israel will come true .
    The Jews make a covenant with this false christ who eventually turns on them .

  15. I didn’t expect you Solider4 to get it!

    • CV, You said: I see and feel all this PRIDE in my fellow believers.
      Here you are grouping all the commenters on this blog. All cannot be grouped together because while there are many on this blog (I won’t mention names) who go by their own understanding and are adamant that they are right, yet there are others whose comments are Scriptural and worth learning from. I visit blogs to learn and share what I learn.

      You say: “He has told me not to worry so much about all this judgement because it doesn’t concern me” .. He will definitely not tell that to anyone in fact He wants us to repent and says so through so many Scriptures – Well how can you say that “judgement does not concern you” … it SHOULD concern not just you but each and every human being on Earth because no one is sure if his/her name is written in the Lamb’s Book of Life. [Rev.21:27-Nothing evil will be allowed to enter (His Kingdom), nor anyone who practices shameful idolatry and dishonesty–but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.] .. So if your name is not in there, you are lost my friend and I say this with concern because we do not have much time.

      You said: “there are many that look to man and their own knowledge for answers”. .. Well, just as we go to school to learn because we cannot learn on our own, so too YHVH has given insight to teachers to teach us and what we learn from them, we must research. Yahshua was a teacher, He taught the Apostles and in turn they taught the people, and because of them we have the Bible right?

      I apologize if I hurt your feelings, never meant to.
      Blessings.

    • yep!

      • The Sabbath is next.

        • Jim believes the Pope will totally kill anybody who worships on the Sabbath now and also on Friday and replace it with permanent Sunday worship. I suspect that it will be Friday worship instead to appease Islam.

          • Pope John-Paul ii signed a papl bull that requires only Sunday worship and excludes all other days in 2002. He just can’t enforce it… yet.
            But when the EU gives the Vatican complete religious power (in 10 nations) he will enforce it, forcing Jews and Muslims to move away if they want to continue to worship in their own ways. A few more years of ISIS attacks and the EU Christians will welcome such a law. It will be the final revival of the Holy Roman Empire and the 8th King(dom) of Revelation. (It is of the 7th – the EU.
            ISIS is preparing to attack Rome with the goal of wiping out Christianity, so this time may not be far off and current events are converging on this sort of thing happening.
            I don’t see anyone asking Obama to rule the world as top Muslim god-dude-dictator, so you tell me which is more likely.
            Also, no One world Currency or RFID chip needed. That would be a huge undertaking.
            Popester is the False Prophet – no antichrist needed. Nor mentioned in Daniel or Revelation. Only the beast kingdom (Vatican) the False Prophet and the devil are actually mentioned. Your antichrist will actually be the head of the EU who gives the pope his power, and who attacks the King of the South – Iran etc.
            SO, no New World Order or One World Dictator needed either – just a leader of fierce countenance who starts WW3.
            So THAT is my story.
            Now sit back and watch it unfold.

            • You are partly right. Only it isn’t the EU that gives its power and authority to the Pope.

              It can’t be the old divisions of the western arm of the Roman Empire because there are only 7 of the horns remaining. Three were destroyed completely.

          • I don’t believe Jim is SDA. He doesn’t believe that Rev 11 was fulfilled by the french revolution. He doesn’t understand the Santcuary and its message.

            History repeats. Constintine(spelling?) passed a Sunday law circa 321AD making it illegal for anyone to keep the “Jewish” Sabbath. I think he said Christians must not keep the Jewish sabbath.

            1888: Congress attempted to pass a National Sunday Law. It was called the Blair Bill. It was withdrawn for no apparent reason just like the Roman armies in 66AD suddendly withdrew from Jerusalem for no reason.

  16. Bro.David and all
    I read these posts. Now I would like to comment as well.
    The only ones who saw the Bethlehem Star were a few wise men from somewhere East of Jerusalem.

    Comment: While in Babylon Daniel taught the wise men of Babylon about the Stars, Sun and Moon. His teachings led the Wise men to Jesus Christ.

    Modern Israel, the real Israel is worldwide. I don’t care one jot about that plot of land in the middle east, it is just a diversion. You should be watching what the Papacy, the UN and the USA are doing.
    Comment: I could not have said it better -You right on David.

    Dear skeptic, John Ashcraft said this on July 4, 2015 at 8:03 am | Reply
    Comment
    Your answer: Right on David- Because their theology is all based on false interpretations. The Scofield Bible was the inspiration of the 20 th. Century as Scofield Bible had notes on what he thought. His interpretation’s. He got if from another man in the 1820’s and the next generation went into the so called – Rapture era and many more false doctrines of Revelations. Most people think that History is not important. When it is of Most important to the real Christian believer. As the Disciples had to learn from the O.T history to actually understand their own Messiah. Jesus Came to them and explained it to many of His followers after resurrection.

    Paul was the absolute expert in O.T History. And God chose Him to explain it to the Church’s. YEA Peter said it is was “hard to understand” and men destroy themselves trying to deny what Paul had already written. Paul was the Elect Apostle to the Jew and Gentile Bride and trained many to follow what he said. God honored Paul and rose him from the dead cause He had the message and could explain most every O.T scripture their was. That is why God Used Him so magnificently. But Paul also had to study it all out. For 12 years to know how to explain it. Its this way today. Its hard to explain it. Cause most people just want a “microwave” answer and that is not how it comes. After you have exhausted all your energy for months or year’s. Then a sweet Voice just says a few Words to your heart and mind and Verifies the Truth to you in such a simple way. Man is the one who confuses it all up. Example how could the Sanhedrin be so stupid to miss their Messiah. But they did. Same today

    Comment: charles allan said this on July 4, 2015 at 9:29 am | Reply
    But the antichrist is not in the scene yet and there are other signposts such as the ten supernations (10 toes on Nebu’s statue ) of Daniel whose kings give their crowns to the antichrist – see club of rome 10 supernations plan.
    Plus there also needs to be a one world electronic currency system for economic survival. The mark of the beast given to those who worship him is not yet in place .
    My Reply” – The anit-christ is everywhere in our society NOW. It use to be everybody said they had to be 10 nations. Well you don’t hear it much anymore because they have 12 or 13 in it now. So forget all that superstition. And go with what the Bible teaches.
    TRUE answer to the Mark of the Beast is — Your Identifying Character. You possess the Holy Spirit First then you let the Tutor train you into the “”Character of your Father”” by letting Christ “engrave His Character in you to be a little Jesus as He was. Jesus walked in the Heavenlies. That is the Mark of God – The World already has the Mark of the Beast. Wake up dear people. The darker it gets the fewer are coming to Jesus. To me its about as dark as in Jesus Day right before they crucified their own Christ.

    Davids comment: In each generation there is always two classes of worshippers manifested. The easiest one to understand is the story of Cain and Abel.
    Yes dear Brother you are right on. I said this more than once on this forum.
    Righteousness by faith – Gods real Revelation – Cain represents Righteousness by works. Amen – he’s also mentioned as an EVIL man.

    One More thought: I have to disagree with you David on the timing of the Revelation coming out. John wrote this as a “Prophecy” . BEFORE it ever happened. He recorded exactly what he saw in the future of 70 A.D. Remember that their were no printing presses in that day. To get the Book of Revelation out to the people was quite a monumental task. It had to be re- written by True Apostles and Men of God. That takes awhile. It took many years and by the time it was circulating freely it was in Domitians reign. That’s my thoughts anyway. The 50’s and 60’s many Epistles were written. Jews were killing Christians etc. etc. It was to precious just to give to everybody but the REAL Christians. Are the Jews would have destroyed it. The Revelations mention the NEAR Coming of Jesus Christ in Salvation first then punished and devastated their Temple and all of Jerusalem and Israel in most cities. Titus the Victor of the Jerusalem and Roman war hung a Eagle I think it was in the Holiest of Holies and desecrated it then.

    I would pray that Men and Women would sincerely just take thought on the 2nd. Coming. It is way more important than most believe. And like in Jesus Day it did not happen the way all of Israel thought. “”””That ought to wake somebody up in this Church age we in today”””. Take heed – Its a thief in the night. Most the world will not even know it as the “Coming of the Judgment” against the world. They will just think it’s another World War 3 till all is devastated in Abomi-Nations in the Nations of perplexity. Just as in 70 Ad.

    Enjoyed this post Marianne and David.

    Palisade.

    • John wrote the Revelation about 95AD. The last book of the Bible cannon to be written was actually the Gospel of John in about 96AD.

      The Revelation is the history of the church from the first century until the new heaven and earth in the future. Revelation is best understood(I believe) as a time line. The churches, the seals and the trumpets are all parallel histories.

      The first church is the church of the apostles circa 30 to 100AD. This is what the Bible calls the pure church. The second church is the church during the worst period of persecution circa 100 to 323AD. The third church is the church of compromise when the believers confused, blurred the lines between Christianity and paganism circa 323 to 538AD. The fourth church is the result of the third church period in which the Bible was taken away from the people and the dark ages circa 538 to 1798AD. The fifth church is the church of reformation, a restoration of Bible teachings circa 1798 to about 1840AD. The sixth church is the hot church, the church of the great Advent awakening 1840 to 1844AD. The last church is the church that is lukewarm, the church that thinks it is rich and clothed but is actually blind and naked circa 1844 to the close of probation.

      The seals follow the same history. First seal the church goes forth and conquers, white indicates purity. Second seal, the church of persecution, red indicating persecution. Third seal, the church in mourning, a time of sealing, the wheat, barley, the oil and wine. Three groups here, the wheat indicating true Christanity, the barley indicating the compromising Christians and the oil and wine group a type of the 144,000(1 measure of wheat, 3 measures of barley). The fourth seal is the result of the third seal time period. In the fourth seal a fourth part of the earth is killed. Four parts total, there were 1 measure of wheat and 3 measures of barley so by proof texting the 4th part that is killed must be the group that was represented by the wheat in the third seal. The fifth seal happens at the end of the 4th seal period and is more a question than an event. The question is how long? God’s answer was rest a while until another group such as yourselves are killed in the same manner you were but which mean that the events of the previous seals must be repeated in the future. Now here is the part that makes this all look like it is all out of place, the sixth seal begins November 1st 1755 with the Great Lisbon Earthquake. Why this earthquake? Because it was the biggest earthquake in history at that time. Millions were killed half the world over. Similar event in recent history would be the Boxing Day earthquake of December 26th 2004. The dark day May 19th 1780, the stars falling from heaven November 13th 1833. Currently we are between verses 13 and 14 in chapter 6.

      The trumpets are slightly different. The first four trumpets brings down the western Roman Empire after the division of the Roman empire 330AD to 476AD. The 5th and 6th trumpets bring down the Eastern Roman Empire(circa 600 to 1844) and the 7th brings down Modern Rome(still part future). The last three trumpets also have woes attached to them. The woes are the raise of Islam, radical Islam. The first woe being 150 years from 1299 to 1449AD and the second woe 1449 to 1840. Under the 1st woe Islam attacked Istanbul but couldn’t destroy them. In 1449 the last ruler of the Roman empire in the east asked the Sultan permission to take his throne basically surrending his power to the Sultans. The Muslims finally attacked and destroyed Eastern Rome in 1453 bring the last part of the Roman empire to an end. The Sultans ruled until 1840 when the Sultan surrended his power to the four great powers of Europe because he needed protection from Egypt. The third woe began nearly 14 years ago when Islam attacked the USA and Bush went to the UN and had a restraint put on Islam. Hate to say this but radical Islam will destroy the USA in the future because you see the history of the first two woes are repeated in the third woe.

      Revelation 7 is describing the character of the 144,000(do a word study on the names of the tribes. Genesis tells us what these names mean. Something very interesting happens when you find out what these names means and the order they are in. The 144,000 are overcomers having conquered sin and made themselves poor. In Rev 7 there are two groups, the 144,000 which John hears but doesn’t see and the great multitude that John sees but can’t be numbered. The 144,000 are the ones who take the last message to the world and go to heaven never seeing death and the great multitude are the group that is murdered during the repeat of the great trib in the future.

      Revelation 12 is the entire history of the church from the beginning until the end. It tells how the woman(church) gave birth to the saviour, how the dragon tried to kill him at his birth and also killing him at the cross and the asscension of Christ. It also tells how the woman had to go into hiding during the dark ages having to eventually move to the earth(the USA) and the waters of persecution and the earth drying up those waters. The USA became a refugue land for persecuted Christians. A land where men could worship openly without fear of being killed for it. Finially the last verse tells us how the dragon was angry with the woman and went to kill the rement of her seed, those who keep the commandments and have the testimony of Christ(which Rev 19:10 tells us is the Spirit of Prophecy).

      Revelation 13, the rise of the Roman Papacy and the dark ages persecution and the slow rise of the USA at the end of the dark ages.

      Revelation 14, the last message to man in these last days.
      Revelation 15, the close of probation, the temple fills with smoke that no man can enter and the seven last plagues given to seven angels.
      Revelation 16, the pouring out of those seven plagues.
      Revelation 17, the history of the other women, the Mother and her Daughters.
      Reveltion 18, the final events of eath history and its punishments.
      Revelation 19, the return of Christ, the destruction of the beast and false prophet.
      Revelation 20, Satan bound for a 1000 years and the final judgment of the wicked after the second resurrection.
      Revelation 21, 22 the restoration of the pre-fall earth, New Jerusalem coming to earth. God dwelling with man. Eternity.

      • David, the real first church was the Exodus Church. There were 3 million+ on the Day of Pentecost when God married mankind with the 10 commandments. Then the word of God went into the Synagogues of the Jews. God’s church is all around you wherever the Word of God is found. If you have a Bible in your home and you meet with people who are like minded to study the Word from cover to cover, you are in God’s church.

        • Its both.

          They are paraellelisms. The Christian church repeats the history of the Hebrews.

          Using parallemism the fourth church period for Israel would be the 70 years captivity in Babylon.

          So I do agree with you on that.

      • Revelation is a duplicate of Leviticus 23 just as Matthew 24 is.

        Revelation 8-11 is Day of the Lord and begins with the first sliver of the new moon in September, 2015 according to Leviticus 25:8 which is the 49th year since the 6th day war in 1967 in Israel.
        The Bible and last days centers around Jerusalem and what happens in that part of the world. The Bible is a Jewish book so you have see it from the naval which is Jerusalem of the globe. In the Messianic Kingdom, Jerusalem will be the capital, not NY City or Washington, DC nor Rome.
        82 times the NT refers to Israel the land or the people of Israel (i.e. Land of Canaan) Joshua which was the promised land.
        Revelation 12-16 is the Second Coming in the year of Jubilee (Lev. 25:9-10). Revelation 12:1-2 is Virgo/Leo and the timeframe is September-October on the first sliver of the new moon which is called Day of Trumpet (Leviticus 23:24 ff) in 2017. For ten days, there is tribulation (Revelation 2:10) and these are called the Days of Awe which is found in Leviticus 23:24ff-36 or between Day of Trumpet and Day of Atonement. The day of Trumpet at this time frame is tied to Matthew 24:31 becauce Matthew 24:28 is Armageddon on the Day of Atonement which is ten days after Day of Trumpet. Other verses and chapters: Mark 13, Luke 21. I Cor 15:52, I Thess 4:16-18, I Thess 5:1-8; Matt 25, Weat and Tares, the flood, the Exodus, Sodom and Gamorrah 7 plane cities.
        Revelation 15 is Day of Atonement language.
        Seasons in I Thess 5:1=Seasons of Gen 1:14=Leviticus 23 or God’s Appointed times.
        Isaiah: Isa_46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:

        If you want to know about the end, look to the Torah (first five books of the OT).

  17. While Abraham was on earth eating with God in a flesh body. Sodom and Gomorrah was being destroyed. Abraham did not leave the earth.

    While Noah was building the Ark for 120 years. That generation laughed at Him. Yet when God shut the door on the Ark. That whole generation was drowned except for Noah’s remnant. Jesus used this scripture for warning to Israel and or any other Age that would reject HIM. = Yet God started another new Age= World

    Gen. 11 – Also talks of God Coming down. Not letting Nimrod control all the world of that time. God said they could become as gods likened unto us. God did not destroy them but scattered them abroad. He – God will not let man go past his Will. This shows you exactly That God has little gods of evil as the “White horse rider etc. that want to control the whole world. Yet all they can do is take mankind to Death, Hell, and the Grave. And the true Disciples of God were persecuted and waiting upon Judgment for the Wicked that killed them. = 5th seal. In all generation’s.

    Moses was sent to Israel. God came down and they seen the Holy Mountain thundering, lightning , Dark, Voices, and that generation said to Moses you speak to him not us. You see how the people today do the same thing in our day. Give us a Pope to see. Everybody wants an intellectual man to teach us. When all you need is the Holy Spirit at least to send you to the right men that are ordained to teach you. The people always want Balaam’s to dictate over them. Its the easy way.
    After all they saw Moses do. They still doubted and even Hated him and wanted to stone him and they all died in the Wilderness and their carcasses laid on the ground. Its always just a few. Apostle Paul backs me up so I can be certain of what I am saying. Paul said to ” l ear n” from their examples.

    Jesus Day was waiting on their Messiah. But after being in slavery to Egypt, Assyrian, Babylon, Medes and persians, Greece , and then Rome and then the Roman Papal system controlling men’s faith after Imperial Rome was gone. Can we understand that it is mankind with their Man made Kings, Caesars that pollute the true Gospel in Every age. We are no different in this age. The prophets of this age can only come up with schemes of men to manufacture a church by their false teachings and money they receive to build great building that influence man in so many ways. Evangelism is all they want to preach and that is easy believism. But never teach about the ” Hidden Manna” Cause they don’t know what is beyond the Veil that Christ tore down for the common man that searches for GOD with His whole heart and being.

    Looking at Jesus day we should understand it just like this day as well. But you cannot tell the people. They love to hear nice things, that comfort them instead of letting the Holy Spirit comfort them. And guide them to all truth.

    Palisade – 2 Tim. 2:13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself. — this is a great blessing to those that are in faith in Jesus Christ.
    II TIM 2:14 ¶ Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.
    II TIM 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
    II TIM 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

    This is what happens in most worlds. The World way of thinking becomes the Christian way of thinking. Cause they do not Possess the will to go any farther. And they will always start believing babblings and superstitions, and the customs that deny the Word of Truth that come out of Catholicism and even now all Protestants as well. They have all joined together. When you see a defiant Nation of evil character – And then see Catholicism even uniting with them. What else do we need to understand.

    Palisade – Marianne I will take a break for awhile . Just had to rant a little myself. It gets all bottled up inside of me. Got to let off the pressure. Hope you understand. God bless you and all.

    • The Bible says several times that Israel will not hear.

      Isa 28:12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.

      Jer 6:16 ¶ Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
      Jer 6:17 Also I set watchmen over you, saying, Hearken to the sound of the trumpet. But they said, We will not hearken.

      We need to get back to the old paths.

  18. David,

    I agree. The secular nation of Israel will be cleaned up and much of it cleaned out in the coming months.

    That star will be removed from their flag and anywhere, everywhere else.

    That pyramid on top of the their Supreme Court building will be removed. Maybe that building is removed too.

    Blessings

    • Spiritual Israel will face a cleansing too.

      What ever anyone believes on this forum God is using radical Islam to bring the whole world together. Very soon what is happening there will be happening worldwide. Imagine 9/11 the whole world over. 9/11 was just a teaser of things to come before the end. Anyone who knows history knows Islam was used by God to protect the Christians from the Papacy during the dark ages. I think Luther says something about the reformation would never have happened if it wasn’t for Islam attacking Rome.

      Going off line now. God bless.

  19. David,

    Jeremiah 10:2 tells us, “Do not learn the way of the Gentiles; Do not be dismayed at the signs of heaven, for the Gentiles are dismayed at them” (NKJV).

    And God said, ‘Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years…” (Gen. 1:14, ESV).

    The lights in the heavens are for signs.

    We just got one.

    Apply the same understanding of Genesis 1:14 and Jeremiah 10:2 as a wise man – Jupiter and Venus conjunction BEFORE Leo (Judah) and it occurs 90 days before a Blood Moon on Feast of Taberncles, 2015.

    The Day of the Lord looks to be at hand.

    God named the zodiac for a reason.

    Job 9:9, “who made the Bear and Orion, the Pleiades and the chambers of the south…”

    Job 38:31, “Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades or loose the cords of Orion?

    Amos 5:8, “He who made the Pleiades and Orion, and turns deep darkness into the morning and darkens the day into night, who calls for the waters of the sea and pours them out on the surface of the earth, the Lord is his name” (ESV).

    I really like Amos 5:8.

    The only ones who saw the Bethlehem Star were a few wise men from somewhere East of Jerusalem.

    The spiritual and political leaders in Jerusalem were told by the wise men that a King was born in Judah.

    Hebrews 4:12, “For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart” (ESV).

    Ephesians 5:6, “Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience” (ESV).

  20. David,

    Even the pagan worshipers of Lucifer know the year. They make very long term strategic plans.

  21. It is obvious there is a third temple since the sacrifices will be stopped
    by the anti christ and he will sit in the temple and declare himself to be god.

    The desolation of abomination is in the 3rd temple as Jesus tells us .

    The temple is planned and will be built by the Jews for their messiah who they think will not be Jesus – this is all in the NT.

  22. Charles,

    Deception is ongoing.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj-f3k3JvYI

  23. The dry bones prophecy is regarding the return of the Jews to the re birthed state of Israel – but the state of Israel has not accepted Jesus as the Messiah – this if done would have been the fruit . So Israel has been born in unbelief until the veil is lifted.

  24. Charles,

    Mary is told she will conceive and give birth. She is told in the 6th month (the one before Tishrei) as we read in Luke 1:26.

    We are talking about the religious/spiritual calendar, beginning in Nisan. The Feast calendar begins in Nisan. His life on earth begins during the Feast of Tabeencles. Life begins at the moment of conception, yes?

    Do you really think Mary would be waiting any longer then the next period of time to become pregnant (conceive).

    Tishrei – Feast of Taberncles, September 11, 3BC there is a conjunction of King Planet and King Star IN Leo.

    Conception!

    9 months later ——— a day of sorrow is turned into a day of JOY! The King of Judah is born.

    There is a sign for this BELOW Leo on the 17th of Tamuz.

    The 17th day of Tamuz marks the beginning of the three-week mourning period leading up to Tisha B’Av.

    In 2015, on the Gregorian calendar, the 17th of Tamuz is – July 4th.

    Wonder why the Mansons picked July 4, 1776?

    The 17rh day of Tamuz begins a time of fasting commemorating the destruction of both the First Temple and Second Temple in Jerusalem; the day has been called the “saddest day in Jewish history”.

    On the 17th day of Tamuz, Moses descended from Sinai with the 10 commandments, and then broke them when seeing the wickedness of the people.

    Why did Moses do such a thing?!

    The people were in full spiritual rebellion before their golden calf.

    A golden calf (bull) is a representation of The Beast!!

    BTW – There is a big gold color bull on Wall Street just a few short blocks from The World Trade Center. Get it? Ask Jonathan Cahn to explain how that fits into his prophetic story.

    Yeshua came to destroy the works of the devil (1st John 3:8).

    Isaiah 53: 3-4 reads:

    “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted” (NKJV).

    But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”. We know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows to a day of joy!

    Luke 2:10-12 records the news.

    “Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger” (NKJV).

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • According to Torahcalendar.com, July 5th is the 17th day of Tammuz which begins at Sunset Shabbat night.

      • july 4th is the 17h of tammuz…began friday night, but since that is shabbat, jews wait until sunday to observe it and fast.

      • John,

        Sunset July 3 begins the next Hebrew calendar day – 17th of Tamuz.

        https://www.hebcal.com/converter/?gd=3&gm=7&gy=2015&gs=on&g2h=1

        Please. Get some rest.

        • Sorry, the Jews celebrate Tammuz on Sunday since it fell on the Sabbath and I rest every Saturday, Sunday, Monday through Friday.
          I don’t have a job so I do a lot of resting. For me to rest is to study the Bible 8-12 hours daily unless I go to town with my caregiver and a 7 year old friend to play. Then I read Aspie books then.

          DJ Using Torahcalendar.com, can you show me that 9/11/3BC is really the Feast of Tabernacles when Dale Sides, Torahcalendar.com, and Dr. William Frederick all agree that it was the Day of Trumpet. Even when I look at Torahclendar.com, it says 9/11/3 BC was the Day of Trumpet.

  25. pls read the comment under the youtube

  26. Exposing homosexuality and pedophiles in Hollywood http://www.newswithviews.com/Kincaid/cliff920.htm … and …
    New flag for America http://www.newswithviews.com/Gonzalez/servando146.htm
    These acts are hastening the wrath of YHVH.

    • Nothing man can do will alter the timetable of God.

      • I know you are a smart alec, always smashing everyone with your negative answers even though most commenters are right. I guess that gives you satisfaction.

        • jim likes to think of himself as the voice of reason on this site.

          he does love the lord, but has strong opinions, and is usually skeptical of what others say

          • Hi Marianne, re. your first sentence, I agree but about loving the Lord, I don’t know. And again his strong opinions are always negative and as for being skeptical of what others say, that too is wrong because there are many on the blog who are Scripturally right, so he should research and learn and not just sit there with a sledge hammer and bam bam others on their heads .. These type of folks are losers. Anyways, can’t waste time arguing, I’ve got tons of study to do, research and learn.

            Btw, I have taken a lot of notes from you and some commenters and put them together because I know it will come useful to share with others. So a big thank you to you and some of those folks here. Blessings.

            • soldier

              do not feel alone. he does that with me also

              just stick up for what you believe in, if you feel it is justified by scripture.

              it is better to be open minded and catch truths set forth, than to be closed, and miss the blessing

              people’s opinions are just that.

              what we want to know is god’s opinion….so we search for that

              • I agree Marianne and thanks for your kind words. Frankly from now on I’m not going to give my opinion to anyone, its no point and I’m not going to bother with negative remarks. I will share what I learn if someone accepts or doesn’t its up to them though I will continue making my notes from blogs and commenters in order to share & help others come closer to YHVH.

                Today is Tisha B’Av, I was praying and Abba just put in my mind to say “don’t keep any hurt in your heart – just let it go” So not only today but all through in the future I’m going to just focus more strongly on helping others know the Truth and be ready Not so much for the Tribulation but on Yahshua’s great coming. What a Day it will be and joy beyond bounds to see Him come in All His Glory. May He keep us alive to see the Heavens burst open and our Messiah Yahoshua=Salvation appearing in full speed to rescue His Earth and His Mankind. Blessings!

                • may you have an easy fast

                  god bless you

                  • Thank you Marianne, I am sincerely praying for you and All on this blog just as I am lifting up Israel & All nations & All creation itself to the Holy One of Israel. If you have a special prayer request you can email me. YAH bless and keep you & All here Safe!!

    • i agree. they are after our children as well. teaching it in the public schools

  27. The main signs before Jesus returns are :-
    The ten supernations with ten kings – as per club of rome plan.
    The rebuilding of the temple that the antichrist will occupy
    A one world electronic currency
    Daniel’s final week during which the antichrist will reign
    A world war with nations gathered in the plain of meggido

    So these signs are not here yet – but you can see that the directed wars
    are bringing about the supernations – such as the caliphate.

    There are plenty of other signs which have not manifested yet such as
    Ezekiel 38 and 39 which is before Armageddon

    • charles

      what about the abomination and the 2 witnesses?

      • Thats right – enoch and elijah will preach round the world for 3.5 years – most likely the 1st part of the tribulation years and the abomination takes place in the new temple .

        • Say, when was the last time God recycled a former prophet?
          The “Elijah” of Jesus’ time was John the Baptist, not the original Elijah.
          He also sent an “end-time Elijah” who some people recognized and others did not. He also was not the original Elijah.
          So why would He change his modus operandi for the 2 witnesses?
          No, he will send two men. Simple men. Unknown men, just as Daniel and Ezekiel and Moses were in their days. God will take two men, pure of heart, and make them His witnesses. How else could the beast power hate them to want to kill them?
          And consider this, if anyone were resurrected for the task, they would have their immortal bodies, right? So then how could they be killed after 3-1/2 years and then be what… re-resurrected? How many times do these guys have to die for Christ’s sake? Literally!
          It may end up that people like you and many others who are expecting a former prophet will reject two plain folks who just show up and start preaching.
          Also, your first four points above will never happen.
          Unless of course, a rapture breaks out first.

          • god’s ways are not your ways.

            jesus has recycled himself throughout scripture….

            no reason why god cannot use a good man more than once

            also…

            the jews won’t respond to 2 nice guys in the street.

            they will respond to 2 dramatic jewish personalities from their past who would be recognizable from their speech as their own prophets

            • God’s ways are consistent. He will do in the future what He did in the past. The whole world will hate the witnesses, even the Jews. Anyone teaching the Jews that they in fact killed their messiah, will be hated. And as I said, any resurrected person would be immune from death. These will be humans and they are alive somewhere on earth right now.
              We only need to wait.

          • The two witnesses are the Old and New testaments. This passage is reffering to a period in time at the end of the 1260 years of papal dark ages when the true church was in sackcloth and ashes, ie. in hiding. See Revelation 12:6 and 13. They are killed, ie. Bibles are banned and burned in mass for 3 and a half years in the 1790s. The French said the only god is reason. They got a naked hooker and paraded her through the streets of Paris and said behold your god. In 1797 France unbanned the Bible, restored order from chaos. Bible societies were established, the Bible was translated into several langauges and missionaries took the Word with them the world over. Also when they banned the Bible the people celebrated by sending each other gifts.

            By looking to a future fulfillment people are in darkness.

            • “The two witnesses are the Old and New testaments”
              OMG! What a Coockoo with a Capital “C’ LOL!! It’s hilarious what you write.

              • You are in Babylon.

                Zec 4:3 And two olive trees by it, one upon the right side of the bowl, and the other upon the left side thereof.
                Zec 4:4 So I answered and spake to the angel that talked with me, saying, What are these, my lord?
                Zec 4:5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
                Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.
                Zec 4:11 ¶ Then answered I, and said unto him, What are these two olive trees upon the right side of the candlestick and upon the left side thereof?
                Zec 4:12 And I answered again, and said unto him, What be these two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of themselves?
                Zec 4:13 And he answered me and said, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.
                Zec 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.

                • O, for your info I am very much in the right direction following TORAH and doing my research and study in the Hebraic perspective not in some Christian teaching where pastors of different denominations interpret Scriptures differently according to their own understanding just like you are doing.
                  Btw, What denomination do you belong to? Jehovah’s witness, Seven Day Adventist, Mormon or what? Your interpretation of the Scriptures is so Loonie that those visiting this blog wanting to know the truth are going to be so confused, this way you would be driving them away rather than bring them closer to Yahshua. You are neither in Babylon nor in Egypt but floating somewhere in between. So stop interpreting scriptures, you just can’t do it right. Study in the Hebraic perspective – Yahshua whom christians renamed Jesus Christ is a HEBREW not American, Not Christian, Not Catholic etc.
                  He spoke Hebrew and taught Hebrew. Get a grip on the TRUTH. Follow in His Ways and not your own.

              • so the old and new testaments are going to be killed in jerusalem, and rise up after 3 days?

                • To majority of Christians in the world, the old testament is already nailed to the cross, killed and dead, gone … done with. Now David is about to kill the ‘new testament’. LOL!! This is truly hilarious.

                  • The old testament is not dead. You are talking rubbish. The whole Bible not just the new is good for teaching, doctrine, etc.

                    It was the Sanctuary laws, the ceremonial laws that were nailed to the cross. Truely you are ignorant fool. The whole new testament is based on the old testament. To the law and to the prophets if they speak not according to this word, that is the whole Bible there is no light in them. Isa 8:20. The Bible declares you are in darkness.

                    • Don’t call me an ignorant fool – you the most stupid idiot here on the blog here right from the start by contradicting YHVH’s holy Torah and debating with those who write the Truth. Majority of commenters here see that your comments are totally out of line. Do you know the the severity of the punishment for contradicting the Torah? “It is stoning to death” Well, this law and other such laws for sin have been removed by the evil ones who rule the earth but that does not mean that you will escape this punishment from the coming King of Israel. With your own stupid understanding you obtained a FREE ticket to hell. Since you used your boorish language to communicate with me, now take this:

                      You know why I call you a fool, a retard, and stupid because you are CHRISTIAN / CRETIN – though I will not group ALL Christians into this category because lots of them are very open to the Torah.
                      The following description of CHRISTIAN suits you very well.
                      ……………………………………
                      The American Heritage Illustrated Encyclopedic Dictionary tells us the etymology for the word CRETIN:

                      cre-tin (kre-tin, kret’n) n. 1. One afflicted with Cretinism.
                      2. A fool; an idiot. [French, cretin, from Swiss French, crestin, CHRISTIAN,
                      hence human being (LIKE YOU NOT ALL) (an idiot being nonetheless human).]

                      Cretinism is dwarfism and or retardation. Cretin is simply the word that is derived from the word CHRISTIAN, crestin.
                      ……………………………..
                      If you had followed the proper teachings of TORAH you would have been wise, intelligent, and knowledgeable but you choose to be a retard and so shall you be till His Kingdom comes.

                • Where does it say Jerusalem? And it is 3 and a half prophetic days not 3. It does say SPIRITUALLY Sodom and Egypt. What does Sodom represent? Sexually immorality. Just got to look at Genesis to prove that. The mob gathered at Lot’s door said bring out those men so that we may know them. Know them means have sex with. Adam knew his wife and she had a son and called him Cain. Adam knew his wife again and she had a son and called him Abel. Egypt represents athesism. The king of Egypt said who is this Lord that I should obey him? That is in Exodus 5. So the place this happens is or was known for sexually immorality and athesism. The only place and time that fits is France during the Age of Reason in the 1790s.

                  I don’t get how anyone can deny this?

                  • david

                    please read your bible if you are going to dispute a topic you want to be an expert in…

                    Revelation 11:8-10
                    Their bodies will lie in the street of the great city, which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified. For three and a half days men from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

                    jerusalem is where the Lord was crucified..so the city is jerusalem

                    it does not say
                    prophetic days, it just says 3 days they will be dead

                    Revelation 11:11-12
                    But after the three and a half days a breath of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, “Come up here.” And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

                    the same people who killed them are the same ones filled with terror….so it is 3 regular days…..

                    • A day in prophecy is always 1 year. Num 14:34; Eze 4:6.

                      The city was Paris. How was Christ crucifed in Paris? Through the burning of Bibles. The Bible is the Word of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Jesus is represented by 66 books on Earth.

                      I am right and you are wrong.

                    • paris????

                      oh well…

        • Charles, did you know Obama recieved the Norwegian Peace Medallion o the 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles according to Torahcalendar.com in 2009 which was the covenant of many according to Renee M at Beforeitsnews.com and then in the Temple Fortress on March 22, 2013 Obama did not bow to the King but just stood there and that was 1260 days from the 7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles and 1290 or 1260 days from that is Day of the Trumpet 2016.
          For you and Marianne’s benefit, the following is the play by play action according to Renee M and other’s. And David you will love to read about the third temple in this one so plan on your two cents worth.

          First is Rome’s Covenant of Mnay. Then Obama’s covenant of many.

          Covenant (MOU) “Memorandum of Understanding” was signed by anti-Christ with the Arab League on April 23, 2009 on Day 5 in the month of Abib/Nisan. http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/holy-see-and-league-of-arab-states-sign-agreement. Yom HaShoah Israel State Holiday Holocaust Remembrance Day. This could have been the seven year peace treaty everybody was looking for to be signed.
          Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, the Pope’s Secretary of State was present to represent the Holy See, along with other Vatican officials, including Monsignor Fortunatus Nwachukwu, Monsignor Alberto Ortega; Monsignor Christophe El-Kassis, Monsignor Nicolas Thevenin and Monsignor Lech Piechota.

          A delegation from the League of Arab States was headed by Walid Al Gargani. Some member countries of the league were also represented by their ambassadors to the Holy See.

          The League of Arab States, seated in Cairo, was started in 1945, and is comprised of 22 countries, including: Egypt, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, Sudan, Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria and Kuwait.
          Israel is not mentioned nor is it a member of the Arab League.
          This is a weak transaction in my opinion but there is the possibility of it being a peace treaty. What is interesting is that it is in the month of Abib which gives it credence. March 22, 2013 was on day 6 on the Fast of Nadab and Abihu (Lev. 10:1-2) in the month of Abib. If Jesus returns on September 3, 2016 on the Day of Trumpet, then March 22, 2013 is 1260 days from the Day of Trumpet. The Holocaust was the death of Jews during WWII.

          Obama one.
          This one may be stronger.
          Through the Abomination of Desolation that was fulfilled on March 22, 2013, the Antichrist has been revealed, and the Sealed Book of Daniel has been Opened. The Final 70 years were confirmed to have started in 1947 at the order to restore Jerusalem. By the exact number of years, 62, it was confirmed that the Covenant with Many would be signed in 2009. 1947 + 62 = 2009. By the exact number of days, 1260, the Covenant with Many was confirmed as the Nobel Peace Prize given to Barack Obama. October 9, 2009 Friday, to March 22, 2013 is exactly 1260 days, 3.5 years, Midweek on the final 7 years. The 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ has been shown by the exact number of days, 1260 days from March 22, 2013 to September 3, 2016, the first day of Rosh Hoshanna, the Feast of Trumpets. Nov 11, 1947+69 shemitahs (7 years) =2016. signofhiscoming.blogspot.com/2013/07/chapter-8-abomination-fulfilled-march.html#!/2013/07/chapter-8-abomination-fulfilled-march.html; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YAzVAy9Of4
          1947+62 shavuots=Obama becoming president on January 20th, 2009+7=Obama’s Presidency ends.
          October 9, 2009 was on day 6 during Feast of Tabernacles. Obama was given the Nobel Peace Medaillion in honor of keeping the Non-Proliferation Treaty of the UN in 1968. “for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.
          (i.e. Covenant of Many).

          March 22, 2013 While on a 3 day visit to Israel, Obama on March 22, stopped at the Nitivity of the church and did not bow to Christ in the grotto supposedly where Christ was born. Amid high security, Obama toured the church with Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. They stopped at the Grotto of the Nativity, which is said to stand where Jesus Christ was born. About 20 children waving U.S. and Palestinian flags greeted Obama in a courtyard outside the sanctuary. He posed for photographs with Abbas and Bethlehem’s mayor, Vera Baboun. The Palestinain flags are black, white, and green stripped flags. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/22/obama-in-israel_n_2931366.html#

          Judas, the “son of perdition” (John 17:12) betrayed Jesus to the chief priests two days before Passover. Obama, the “son of perdition” (II Thess. 2:3) betrayed Israel four days before Passover.

          Most Christians believe that the seven year tribulation begins with the signing of a peace treaty by the Antichrist, but the entire chapter of Daniel 9 refers to Jesus and if that is true then the signing of the peace treaty would be done by Him and broken mid way by the Antichrist at the Abomination of Desolation. To find out that possible timeframe, you begin counting back 1260 days from Armagedddon which will be on the Day of Atonement. For instance, September 30, 2017 is Day of Atonement, so you count back 1260, 1290, 1335 days from that date to give you a possibility for the Abomination of Desolation. The two days 2520 (1260+1260) and 2550 (1260+1290) gives you the time frame for the signing of the peace treaty which should put you near September, 7 years earlier between Tishrei 1 and Tishrei 21 which is between Day of Trumpets and the eighth day of Feast of Tabernacles/Sukkot or sometime in October.

          Abomination of Desolation March 22, 2013 by Barak Obama doing the action beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/03/opinion-10-biblical-proofs-the-abomination-of-desolation-was-fulfilled-in-barack-obama-march-22-2013-fulfilling-perfectly-the-timelines-of-daniel-2607204.html
          Through the Abomination of Desolation that was fulfilled on March 22, 2013, the Antichrist has been revealed, and the Sealed Book of Daniel has been Opened. The Final 70 years were confirmed to have started in 1947 at the order to restore Jerusalem. By the exact number of years, 62, it was confirmed that the Covenant with Many would be signed in 2009. 1947 + 62 = 2009. By the exact number of days, 1260, the Covenant with Many was confirmed as the Nobel Peace Prize given to Barack Obama. October 9, 2009 to March 22, 2013 is exactly 1260 days, 3.5 years, Midweek on the final 7 years. The 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ has been shown by the exact number of days, 1290 days from March 22, 2013 to September 3, 2016, the first day of Rosh Hoshanna, the Feast of Trumpets.
          March 22, 2013
          President Obama made his first trip to Jerusalem on March 21, 2013 shortly after the historic event of Pope Benedict resigning from office and lightening subsequently striking the Vatican. This day was the date of the vernal equinox, a major pagan holiday. About once every 100 years, the vernal equinox lines up with another major date…Nisan 10 on the Hebrew calendar. This confluence happened on March 21, 2013. So what is so special about Nisan 10? It is the day Jesus entered Jerusalem! President Obama visits Jerusalem for the first time on the same date Jesus visits Jerusalem except in the case of the president, his visit also coincides with a major pagan celebration day! This is a man who has dark spiritual knowledge.
          “JERUSALEM – First “the Beast” had a breakdown, and now a wicked sandstorm has grounded President Obama’s helicopter.” “When Obama got to Bethlehem, security had cleared visitors at the Manger Square. Obama then toured the Church of the Nativity, built atop the cave where Jesus is believed to have been born.” Obama’s steel-plated limo, known as “the Beast,” broke down before the trip, and the Secret Service had to bring in a replacement. You can start counting 1,260 days.So “The Beast” (Obama’s Limo) arrived at the “Holy Site” on March 22nd causing all prayer and sacrifice to cease and then Obama stood inside of the Holiest Christian site on Earth as the Palestinians protested because they did not want him there.
          Every year by ordinance from God and His word there is a Passover sacrifice in Israel to remember the Exodus. This tradition was lost in 70 AD when the Jews were dispersed. It was reinstated in 2008. (Video) This year the Passover Sacrifice was OFFICIALLY cancelled, due to Barack Obama´s visit to Israel. The order came from the Israeli Department of Health. That is all that had to happen. For a man, they stopped their passover sacrifices for this year.
          http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166255#.UU7sRzetq95
          Exodus 12:14 ‘So this day shall be to you a memorial; and you shall keep it as a feast to the Lord throughout your generations. You shall keep it as a feast by an everlasting ordinance.
          Daniel 11:31… then they shall take away the daily sacrifices, and place there the abomination of desolation.
          tinfoilpalace.emp.yuku.com/topic/13234348/10-proofs-Abomination-Desolation-fulfilled-Barack-Oba

          What do you think about DanielsTimeline.com? God speaks the language of the times, so Daniel’s future years would likely fit our years without any recalculation. Right? Thus, using the UN declaration to restore and rebuild the fig tree nation Israel, we calculate: 1947 + 62 + 7 = 2016. Subtract 3 1/2 years and you have spring of 2013 (March 20-22 are after winter and before the Sabbath!). Does President Obama’s Trip to Israel fulfil Daniel, John, and Jesus’ prophesies? (Dates coincide with prediction over 8 years ago by DanielsTimeline.com) Note: Apparently, underlying Hebrew does not say that the Antichrist will actually stop the sacrifices, or place the abomination, or stop an offering. These, and the temple being rebuilt, are all apparently wrong assumptions by man. 1. Exactly 1260 days previous to March 22, 2013, on October 9, 2009, Obama was given the Nobel peace prize. Also, in early 2009 the new President Obama confirmed peace treaties with Israel, etc. 2. On March 20-22, 2013 President Obama traveled to Israel confirming a “Covenant of [Many] Peoples” (Daniel 9:27). He promised Israel an eternal covenant. How could any person, considering himself mortal, promise and everlasting covenant? 3. There was an order to stop at least one group from sacrificing a lamb. Police confiscated at least one lamb recently. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/wap/Item.aspx?type=0&item=166560. The award given by the Prime Minister to Obama could be the “offering”. 4. Obama entered Jerusalem on the donkey symbol of the Democratic Party on Nisan 10 (March 21), same date as Jesus’ triumphal entry. He has been declared several times in the media and by many people as a messiah. Recently a music star declared him as “god and our savior”, etc. 5. His administration showed a graphical “image” of the State of Israel that cut Jerusalem and the Temple Mount out of Israel and placed it back under gentile/Palestinian control (i.e. an abomination). The Dome of the Rock is also an abomination or detestable thing on the Temple Mount. 6. There was an ice sculpture created in Obama’s image. 7. President Obama entered the holy site of Jesus’ birth on March 22. 8. This all happened after winter (March 20) and the day before Sabbath/Saturday March 23 (Matt. 24:15-21). What do you think? Just coincidence?
          http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2013/bruce327.htm

          • just a note

            i had someone, who is profoundly deaf, leave a message on my website, saying that she had heard a trumpet, on 7/16/2009

            Posted here:
            https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/prayer-for-healing-and-deliverance/#comment-11631

            2009/07/16 at 3:45 am

            Hi, Marianne. I have a question.. I was praying and in middle of it, I heard a very clear short and sharp blowing horn ( Not known name of it for myself ) and I had to pause in middle for a moment to look around and see nothing.. I am very profound deaf. Yet I heard it.. Do you have any idea what does the difference between those notes means ? Like clear short and sharp note… or long sorrowful soft note.. sometimes I can hear trumpet which was long and clear and purposeful note. So I have no idea what those means. I had to ask for once in my life to see if I can learn anything from you, Marianne.🙂 Thank you for your time.
            Tamera

          • Charles,
            Please don’t buy into any of this nonsense – it has more holes than swiss cheese. It is as silly as saying the 2 witnesses were burned bibles in France 200 years ago. A clever person can make the bible say anything.
            Look of REAL biblical signs – signs the whole world will recognize, not just a few You Tube idiots.
            John has an agenda – a predetermined time line which he is actually working backwards from, looking for clues. His time line already has failed and throws out many bible prophecies for the lack of actual events.
            But we will all know soon the true folly of his ways. He has made several bold predictions that must happen for his theory to continue in the next couple of months. If they fail you will know that all his words are sheer nonsense. His eggs are all in one big basket now and world events are about to make him a big omelette real soon.
            Free breakfast for everyone!

  28. If he died in 4BC.

  29. http://www.ihopkc.org/fcf/live-service/

    Love Wins: Being a People Who Delight in Jesus’
    Leadership by mike bickle (ihop-kc}

    I. THE CERTAINTY OF VICTORY IN THE MIDST OF THIS CURRENT
    DARKNESS
    A. I am grieved that the highest court in our nation
    defied the authority of God’s Word. Yet, I am filled
    with hope that the Lord will use what the enemy meant for
    evil to turn around for remarkable good.
    We must see what God’s Word says about the coming crisis
    and yet see God’s glory in the crisis so
    that we are spiritually prepared to trust the Lord’s
    leadership and to love well in all that is coming.
    B. “We weep over our sins. We don’t celebrate them. We
    don’t institutionalize them.” John Piper
    C. We are living in a critical turning point in human
    history. America is in a time of transition. The
    coming season will be an important step in training the
    Church to walk in faith and victory for the
    time when pressure will increase far more in context to
    the events related to the Lord’s return.
    D. Love wins and never fails. The only time that love
    wins is when it is in agreement with the One who
    is love incarnate. A foundation of Christian faith is
    that Jesus is love. He is the perfect embodiment
    of love, liberty, justice, grace, and dignity. All who
    resist Him are resisting true love, liberty, and
    human dignity. Humanistic approaches to love will never
    bring people to genuine love.
    7
    [love]…bears all things…hopes all things, endures all
    things. 8
    Love never fails. (1 Cor. 13:7-8)
    E. Marriage is the only social institution that God
    ordained before the fall of man and the only one that
    procreates, resulting in eternal human beings. This new
    law will demand the systematic promotion
    of homosexuality through the public school system and
    will criminalize resistance to it with a series
    of new hate crimes with consequences—economic, removal of
    children from the home, prison, etc.
    F. How we respond to the deep cravings of our heart or
    body is an important part of our relationship
    with Jesus. Our love for and commitment to His leadership
    is expressed when we face our cravings
    in a spirit of faith and obedience, knowing this is the
    way to true love, liberty, and dignity.
    II. SOME OF THE DYNAMICS TO CONSIDER IN UNDERSTANDING
    THIS HOUR
    A. Jesus’ leadership: our commitment to His leadership
    and His zeal for love that flows from mercy
    B. Institutionalized sin: results in the increase of
    darkness that defiles the nation
    C. The coming crisis: war, terrorism, economic pressures,
    persecution, etc.
    D. Preparing the Church: God overruling darkness to
    prepare the Church for great revival
    E. The falling away: Many will leave the faith in the end
    times (2 Thes. 2:3; 1 Tim. 4:1-2).
    F. Compassion for pain: the deep pain of people related
    to not experiencing romantic love
    G. Contend for democracy: recognizing God’s gift in
    granting a democratic nation
    H. Respond in love: to Jesus as faithful witnesses, to
    people with kindness, and to society with service
    Forerunner Christian Fellowship (July 5, 2015) – Mike
    Bickle
    Love Wins: Being a People Who Delight in Jesus’
    Leadership Page 2
    International House of Prayer of Kansas City ihopkc.org
    Free Teaching Library mikebickle.org
    III. THE END-TIME DRAMA
    A. There will be a falling away in the end times (Mt.
    24:9-13; 2 Thes. 2:3; 1 Tim. 4:1-3; 2 Tim. 3:1-7).
    3
    Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day [Jesus’
    coming] will not come unless the
    falling away comes first, and the man of sin [Antichrist]
    is revealed… (2 Thes. 2:3)
    1
    Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some
    will depart from the faith, giving heed to
    deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons… 3
    forbidding to marry… (1 Tim. 4:1-3)
    B. The Lord planned tribulation as the context in which
    “many” will purified in love (Dan. 11:33;
    12:10). The Lord’s plan for His Church will succeed
    greatly—multitudes will love and honor Him.
    33And those of the people who understand shall instruct
    many… (Dan. 11:33)
    1
    …there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was…your
    people shall be delivered…
    3
    Those who are wise shall shine…those who turn many to
    righteousness like the stars…
    10Many shall be purified, made white, and refined…the
    wise shall understand. (Dan. 12:1-10)
    9
    “….a great multitude which no one could number, of all
    nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues,
    standing before the throne…14These…come out of the great
    tribulation…” (Rev. 7:9-14)
    IV. HOW TO RESPOND
    A. We are to respond by loving Jesus as faithful
    witnesses of the truth, loving people with pastoral
    sensitivity, and loving our nation by our full engagement
    in the work of kingdom.
    B. God’s people are to be faithful witnesses who are
    bold, clear, and kind in speaking and acting with a
    spirit of love because of confidence in Jesus’ leadership
    that alone brings love, liberty, and dignity.
    C. We must boldly teach what the Scripture says about
    sexuality, including the gift of sexuality and
    what it says about adultery, fornication, divorce, and
    homosexuality. Scripture prohibits same-sex
    intercourse (Rom 1:26-27; 1 Cor. 6:9; 1 Tim 1:10; cf. Lev
    18:22, 20:13). It is a double standard to
    speak on homosexual immorality without being zealous for
    heterosexual purity and honoring
    marriage. Jesus offers tender mercy to all who yield to
    homosexual or heterosexual immorality.
    9
    Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the
    kingdom of God? Do not be deceived.
    Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor
    homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10nor thieves,
    nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor
    extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.
    11Such were some of you. But you were washed…you were
    justified … (1 Cor. 6:9-11)
    26For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For
    even their women exchanged the
    natural use for what is against nature. 27Likewise also
    the men, leaving the natural use of the
    woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men
    committing what is shameful… 28God gave them over to a
    debased mind, to do things which are not fitting… (Rom.
    1:26-28)
    D. We can be faithful to the truth as we show great
    kindness to people in immorality, both heterosexual
    and homosexual, and to Christians who understand the
    Scripture as well as to those who do not

  30. fyi,

    Love in context:

    “Now the end of all things is near; therefore, be serious and disciplined for prayer. Above all, maintain an intense love for each other, since love covers a multitude of sins. Be hospitable to one another without complaining.” (1st Peter 4:7-9 HCSB).

    Proverbs 10:11-13, “The mouth of the righteous is a fountain of life, but the mouth of the wicked conceals violence.

    Hatred stirs up conflicts, but love covers all offenses.

    Wisdom is found on the lips of the discerning, but a rod is for the back of the one who lacks sense” (HCSB).

    IHOP is filled with spirits – many are not of God. They don’t test the spirits because the leadership does not want to offend anyone.

    “Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

    Keep your attention on Jesus Christ as risen from the dead and descended from David. This is according to my gospel. I suffer for it to the point of being bound like a criminal, but God’s message is not bound. This is why I endure all things for the elect: so that they also may obtain salvation, which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. This saying is trustworthy:

    ‘For if we have died with Him,
    we will also live with Him;
    if we endure, we will also reign with Him;
    if we deny Him, He will also deny us;
    if we are faithless, He remains faithful,
    for He cannot deny Himself'” (2 Timothy 2:7-13, HCSB).

    Revelation 12:11, “And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death” (NKJV).

    I prefer this message written in a letter.

    http://www.derekprince.org/Publisher/File.aspx?id=1000021501

    Blessings
    Psalm 33

  31. charles allan – and all- Rev. 11:13
    You said – Thats right – enoch and elijah will preach round the world for 3.5 years – most likely the 1st part of the tribulation years and the abomination takes place in the new temple .

    Charles you are about 2000 years off sorry to say.
    Most answer’s to complex scripture does not come in a little Post. But it has to be taught and then let others review it with an “open mind”. Which is impossible to many in our day. Because of false theologians. The Futurist people have never heard the NOW message and seem to never want to learn anything else. It pleases their soul and heart I guess. Superstitions have taken over Christianity.

    Matt. 17:2-7 On the day of Transfiguration, their stood Moses and Elijah with Jesus Christ in the Cloud . That is symbolic of both O.T and N.T. The 2 Olive Trees. The disciples saw them with Jesus. Glorified as well. These are your 2 witness’s representing the “two doors of the Covenants”. O.T and N.T. The 2 Doors of Solomon’s temple were made of “Olive Wood” and then covered by Gold to enter into the temple. Making the Prophets the door way into the Temple to Christ. The Holy of Holies.

    Rev. 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
    a. This proves the “Temple was standing” when John wrote the Book of Revelation before 70 A. D.
    b. The next scriptures explains it also.

    REVELATION 11:2- But the court which is without the temple leave out, and “”measure it not””; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months. =
    a. the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; “”for it is given unto the Gentiles:”” – This was in JOHN”S DAY Given to the Gentiles right after the destruction of Jerusalem. Their total destruction. Till 1948 when a Nation was built in One day.
    b. Making Elijah the Prophet of the N.T ushering in Christ Kingdom.
    B. Jesus said the Spirit of Elijah was upon John as well.
    C. NOTE it says plainly – Jerusalem the “Holy City” was tread under for 42 months. That was in 70 AD. Not our day today. Even if Israel perishes today the scripture above is TRUE and set in Stone to be the truth.
    D. So this text is talking about John’s day of the Lord and the wars within that generation. Israel being destroyed and Gentile Churchs established

    REV. 11:3 – ¶ And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.
    a. This was Christ ministry. Moses and Elijah was part of Jesus Ministry. They were the introduction of the 2 covenants. O.T and N.T Jews and Gentiles.
    b. Jews and gentiles did worship together up and through the Day of Pentecost. Both Israel and Jews together. Paul even brought gentiles into the synagogues.
    c. Jesus ministry with John the forerunner was 3-1/2 years.
    d. Moses and Elijah was with him all the way.

    REV. 11:4- These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.
    a. They both “represent” the two doors of the Temple of God.
    b. Moses had Christ in him. Paul said it I believe it. Elijah the same. God used them to represent his Two Candlesticks. Which mean great Light,

    Lampstands, Gr3088 1) a lamp, candle, that is placed on a stand or candlestick; To a lamp are likened an eye, i.e. which shows the body which way to move and turn; the prophecies of the OT, inasmuch as they afforded at least some knowledge relative to the glorious return of Jesus from heaven.
    also -3022 — white – light, bright, brilliant; brilliant from whiteness, (dazzling) white: spoken of the garments of angels, and of those exalted to the splendour of the heavenly state; shining or white garments worn on festive or state occasions; used of white garments as the sign of innocence and purity of the soul; spoken of the whitening colour of ripening grain
    a. This represents the Churchs. O.T and N.T.

    REVELATION 11:5- And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: and if any man will hurt them, he must in this manner be killed.
    a. this is speaking of the 2 foundations of Both O.T and N.T.
    b. The World will answer to God over Killing His Saints. O.T or N.T
    b. And yes O.T and N.T were all persecuted. Jews killed their own Prophets.

    REVELATION 11:6- These have power to shut heaven, that it rain not in the days of their prophecy: and have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as they will.
    a. this is simple. Moses and Elijah did the miracles. Both Church’s the O.T church= Moses then again in the N.T church.=Elijah. These were the Two lambstands beside Jesus on the 7 lampstands of candles. Jesus was the Center lamp stand. Moses and Elijah are the O.T and N.T church.

    REVELATION 11:7- And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
    a. Yes in A.D 70 it was a complete victory over O.T Israel by Rome.
    b. The Beast of that day. Thier victory slogan was – Divide & Conquer
    c. That is the White horse of Rev. 6.
    d. Also Don’t forget The Jewish war against the Christians of the N.T. had been persecuted during these time frames as well. Right into the N.T. after the O.T was history.
    e. As Jesus predicted in Matt. 24. Rome destroyed the Temple in Jesus Generation.

    REVELATION 11:8- And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.
    a. This is self explanatory. Sodom and Egypt was Jerusalem cause it says so plainly here. Not our day. Yes they could not even bury the bodies of all the dead in that horrible war. Jews/Romans war
    b. People eat the bodies of the dead that were not rotten. And babies.
    c. This will no doubt happen in our day as well. When a Nation forgets their God. Actually hate Gods sent one. Jesus Christ.

    REVELATION 11:9- And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and “Nations” shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.
    a. Jesus ministry was introduced by John the Elijah prophet of that day.
    b. Together John and Jesus ministry were right at 3-1/2 years. Fulfilling the 1st. half of the last week.
    c. Historians say the War between Jerusalem last exactly 3-1/2 years as well. Completing the the whole Prophecy that Daniel wrote 490 yrs.
    d. The New Day began. N.T = Jew and Gentiles together.

    Palisade.

    • Revelation 11:

      The French Revolution is the classic historic interpretation.

    • Very clever interpretation to excuse the lack of real witnesses. But we all know a witty reader can twist the bible to say just about anything. No wonder there are thousands of different prophetic interpretations.
      But eventually the real witnesses WILL appear, and you will have to get that old drawing board out again.
      And hey, why does John have to prophesy in 95AD about something that ended in 31AD? He said it was to happen “soon” so it would have to be at least 96AD or later.
      You premise is illogical and is too big a stretch from what the verses actually say.
      Clever, but not clever enough.

      • It is a time line of history from the first coming to the restoration of everything.

        Rev 8:1-5 is when Jesus as high priest in the Holy Place in Heaven send down the Holy Spirit to earth on Pentecost.

  32. Not sure what you are saying – Daniel’s final week has not happened – the new temple is not yet built – 10 kings do not rule the world – there is no one world electronic currency, yet – armageddon has not happened – the jews were exiled by the romans to return again as per Ezekiel – the anti christ is not here , yet – the two witnesses have not preached for 3.5 years , yet –
    nor have they been killed in Jerusalem for the whole world to see – nor have they been resurrected for the whole world to see , yet – nor have we seen the exchange of presents , like christmas , when they were killed.

    You seem to be saying everything’s done and dusted in the past and there are no future prophecies to be fulfilled. You are supposed to take things literally unless the context overwhelmingly proves otherwise.

    We are not yet in a time of suffering greater than has ever happened that Jesus mentions .

    • Ah well if you believe Jesuit teachings you won’t understand prophecy.

    • charles
      People are suffering all over the world. When it hits America it will be so sad. We are not no better off that Israel was in Christ time. We probably just as bad and maybe even worse. We got the whole plan already laid out for us. The Book of Revelation is the last frontier and its over. People willing to Study and Pray and Seek and Hunger get the prize.

      Palisade

  33. Sorry dont see the french revolution or the russian revolution anywhere specifically in the bible – there have been hundreds of revolutions and wars
    why pick on the french one ????

    • The French Revolution happened towards the end of the 1260 years of Papal dark ages. During the reign of terror the Bible was banned in France for three and a half days.

      If you knew history you would know this to be true. But you rather believe Jesuit interpretations.

      • The 2 witnesses preach and die in Jerusalem, not Paris. The verses are quite specific and happen during the tribulation, not 200 years earlier. Your time frame is way off and frankly is just silly.
        With your kind of logic you could make anything fit bible prophecy if taken out of context.
        But if you’re right, then the bible is completed and we may as well put it away and forget about a Second Coming any time soon, if ever.

        • Jerusalem is the church not the literal place in literal Israel. The nation of Israel died 2000 years ago.

        • The tribulation you speak of was the Papal Dark Ages. 538 to 1798AD. That is well established in Bible prophecy. The Bible meantions it 7 times. 42 month, 1260 days, times, time and half a time all the same time period.

          But I do believe that tribulation will be repeated but not the time.

      • David, you of all people should know that history repeats itself so keep an open mind.

        • Maybes but not the time. Time is no longer. We are in the antitypical Day of Atonement and the Jubilee trumpet sounds when Jesus comes.

    • If you read Daniel 11:40 the king of the south came against the king of the north. 1798 a French general marched into Rome, abolished the papal government and established a secular one taking the pope to France into exile where he died a year later. Hence Papal Rome received a deadly wound. In 1989 the king of the north came against the king of the south like a whirlwind. In 1989 the Berlin Wall fell. The USSR collasped. The papacy with the help of the US brought down Soviet Russia.

      Its all there. You just got to understand what the symbols mean.

    • Charles,
      He uses the French Revolution because it is the only one that fits his scenario close enough. With 2000 years of world history it is possible to find the fulfillment of every bit of bible prophecy. My question is why would you want? “In the time of the end” or “at the end of the age” all refer to a particular time – our time. But he, for some odd reason, ignores this and considers that it means any time of your choosing.
      I think this is the interpretation of people who wish the Lord might return at any time. Just appear out of the blue. No tribulation. No wrath of God, just a simple howdee-do from Jesus and all is done.
      Pure wishful thinking.

      • Well it is the only event that fits in the 1260 day prophecy.

        And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

        Check. The true church was in hiding from the Roman Church for 1260 years.

        These are the two olive trees, and the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth.

        See Zec. chapter 4 for explaination. The Bible says this is the Word of God.

        And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

        At the end of the 1260 years the beast that comes out of the bottomless pit is athesism in France.

        And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified.

        Spiritually Sodom = sexual immorality
        Spiritually Egypt = Athesism
        France during the Age of Reason banned all religion.

        And they of the people and kindreds and tongues and nations shall see their dead bodies three days and an half, and shall not suffer their dead bodies to be put in graves.

        This period in France lasted 3 and a half years.
        “It was in 1793 that the decree which prohibited the Bible passed the French Assembly. Three years and a half later a resolution rescinding the decree, and granting toleration to the Scriptures, was adopted by the same body. The world stood aghast at the enormity of guilt which had resulted from a rejection of the Sacred Oracles, and men recognized the necessity of faith in God and his Word as the foundation of virtue and morality. Saith the Lord, “Whom hast thou reproached and blasphemed? and against whom hast thou exalted thy voice, and lifted up thine eyes on high? even against the Holy One of Israel.” [Isaiah 37:23.] “Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my name is Jehovah.” [Jeremiah 16:21.]
        “Concerning the two witnesses the prophet declares further: “And they heard a great voice from heaven saying unto them, come up hither. And they ascended up to heaven in a cloud; and their enemies beheld them.” [Revelation 11:12.] Since France made war upon God’s two witnesses, they have been honored as never before. In 1804 the British and Foreign Bible Society was organized . This was followed by similar organizations, with numerous branches, upon the continent of Europe. In 1816, the American Bible Society was founded. When the British Society was formed, the Bible had been printed and circulated in fifty tongues. It has since been translated into more than two hundred languages and dialects. By the efforts of Bible societies, since 1804, more than 187,000,000 copies of the Bible have been circulated.”

        History fits the Bible perfectly. If you have another fulfillment I would like to hear it.

  34. Its very difficult for me to intelligently comment on the aformentioned. I have briefly read about the blood moons and the “coincidences” which have occurred involving Israel. Therefore based on that limited knowledge and also based on current worlwide events of the major players in Ezekiel, I believe something of major significance will happen having a huge affect on the world tied with the final blood moon in the Tetrad on Sept 28, 2015, a lunar eclipse.
    However one cannot disregard the solar eclipse to occur on September 13, 2015 which will fall on the Biblical feasts called, the Feast of Trumpets, or Rash Ha Shana! Yeshua/Jesus has fulfilled the spring feasts but not yet the feasts that occur in the fall. I, being one who believes in and can firmly support the the Pre-Tribulation rapture of the church, am very excited to see the signs of the times showing that we are that much closer to the Messiah/Jesus’ actual physical return to this earth. (Not to be associated with His decension from heaven into the clouds above us to gather His bride to meet Him in the air! 😊

  35. I believe what the bible teaches and it is clear that these bible prophecies are still to come.

  36. Yes I agree – but they dont respond very much in the way they should – but as they do in Jerusalem they kill the prophets in front of the whole world – which then rejoices by exchanging presents – and then goes into mourning when they see the true prophets rise up into heaven – on TV .

    Anyone who tries to say (by doing logical somersaults ) that scripture says in some convoluted way that this has already happened needs to study much more to be approved .

    • hard to say who kills the prophets…jerusalem has jews, muslims, “christians” and secular people

      and it is now being determined that jerusalem will no longer belong to Israel, but to the vatican

  37. Lament over Jerusalem
    37″Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. 38″Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!… Jesus

  38. What has this got to do with enoch and elija touring the world preaching repentance and being finally slayed in Jerusalem and after 3 days arising from the dead – enoch and elijah have not died and will return in person.

  39. The exact truth.
    Rev. 11 – Embodiment of Christ
    In Revelation 11, the reader was exposed to compelling Biblical and historical evidence that as KING and HIGH priest, Jesus was the SOLE “SINGULAR” “EMBODIMENT of the TWO WITNESSES” and had returned to Jerusalem to fulfill all the predictions of Revelation 11 during the Jewish War that was 42 months long as well. Making Jesus our Author and Finisher by the Resurrection which also was 42 months or 3-½ years. In both events it was the “Coming of the Parousia in the Resurrection and His life being poured out for us. Then in 70 A.D with Judgment. In the 2nd. Coming- It was Jesus Christ Rev. 11 was talking about. Plain and simple but yea you might have to read some teaching on it. Hello —

    John 21:12 Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.

    JOHN 21:13- Jesus then cometh, and taketh bread, and giveth them, and fish likewise.

    JOHN 21:14- This is NOW the THIRD time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, AFTER that he “was risen” from the dead.

    Why don’t a few of you take about 5 minutes and check out the comes in these verses. You might get surprised by it.
    Everybody knows what Rev. 1:7 says as a Coming of Christ. So look this if you really serious about what you believe. Don’t be scared. Jesus is still on the earth in His Bride.
    Take a study on the word come, coming, etc. and see how many their are. You could get a revelation .
    I’m already dining with Christ how about you.

    Palisade

  40. Thy Kingdom has already Come and you did not know it.

    Palisade

  41. Joe,

    Thank you for your reply.

    Here are a couple of interesting footnotes.

    There is a sign in the heavens occurs on September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah).

    “Shabbat Shuvah (“Sabbath [of] Return” שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates.

    This Shabbat is named after the first word of the Haftarah (Hosea 14:2-10) and literally means “Return!” It is perhaps a play on, but not to be confused with, the word Teshuvah (the word for repentance).”

    https://www.hebcal.com/holidays/shabbat-shuva

    https://www.ou.org/torah/parsha/shnayim-mikra/vayeilech_haf/

    Jupiter (representation of God) is with Virgo (virgin), while Venus (representation of Jesus) is in Leo (King of Judah) occurs on Shabbat Shuvah!

    All these planets are in a line, while Saturn (representing Satan/Dragon) is no where in sight.

    This occurs 70 years (generation per Psalm 90:10 and Jeremiah 29:10) after 1947.

    I think this is a sign of the season of God’s Sabbath rest for 1000 years as our Lord reigns.

    So now consider the Fig Tree lesson:

    Now learn this parable from the fig tree: When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves…when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors! Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place…” (Matthew 24:32-35).

    Can we know what is the length of this “generation” that Jesus spoke about?

    And can we know exactly what He meant by the fig tree “putting forth leaves”?

    There are 7 definitions and 7 is the number of completeness.

    1) According to Gen. 6:3 it may be as long as 120 years.
    2) Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16 indicates 100 years.
    3) Psalms 90:10 indicates a possible 80 years.
    4) Psalms 90:10 also indicates a more likely 70 years.
    5) Matthew 1:17 may indicate around 50 years
    6) Psalms 95:10 indicates 40 years.
    7) Deut. 2:14 indicates 38 years.

    2017 – Using ALL 7 generations, based on the premise of ISRAEL being the fig tree Jesus spoke about in the end times:

    1) 2017 counting back a 120 year generation = 1897.
    Significant event: The first ever Zionist congress was held in Basel, Switzerland in 1897.

    2) 2017 counting back a 100 year generation = 1917.
    Significant event: The first official political act paving the way for Jews to return to their land was the Balfour Declaration of November 1917.

    3) 2017 counting back a 80 year generation = 1937.
    Significant event: The Peel Commission published a report that for the first time recommended partition of Palestine, and the land under it’s authority be apportioned between an Arab and Jewish state. The plan was declared unimplementable.

    4) 2017 counting back a 70 year generation = 1947.
    Significant event: The United Nations general assembly voted in favour of the Partition Plan that actually created… the State of Israel!

    5) 2017 counting back a 50 year generation = 1967.
    Significant event: The Jews regained Jerusalem, fulfilling“when the fig tree putteth forth leaves.”

    Choosing a 50 year generation requires some explanation. Some people have reckoned on a 50 year generation, starting with 70 using Psalm 90:10 for an average age, and then taking away 20, because those under 20 years old who came out of Egypt were not counted, as mentioned fifteen times in the book of Numbers, Chapter 1.

    6) 2017 counting back a 40 year generation = 1977.
    Significant event: The State of Israel reaches the Jewish “age of maturity.” In the Old Testament Bible, priests could not work in the tabernacle until age 30. See Numbers 4:3.

    This was when they were considered mature. Modern Israel was born in 1947.

    Now do the calculation: 1947 + 30 = 1977.

    “When the fig tree putteth forth leaves” could be considered as another way of saying “when Israel becomes mature.” An example of this maturity is that the Liqud political party came to power in Israel in 1977. The Hebrew word Liqud means ‘The Consolidation’ in English.

    7) 2017 counting back a 38 year generation = 1979.
    Significant event: Israel signs a peace treaty with Egypt. Other than the events already mentioned I’m thinking this would be considered the other most positive historical step towards modern Israel’s expansion, showing “the fig tree putting forth leaves”. It led to many long term benefits, such as providing for the free passage of Israeli ships through the Suez Canal.

    And is 2017 really significant?

    2017 is the Jubilee (per Leviticus 25:9-12 , 50 years)? Counting back to 1967 it is.

    In 1967, Israel gained soverign control over Jerusalem for the first time since the days of King Solomon.

    The above was written by blogger Nicetiming.

    Please give some time to 2 Timothry 2:7-13 and the “faithful saying.”

    Blessings
    Rev. 12:11

    • Here is more information from a different point of view concerning 2017. It is 2 pages long and is in part in all the comments.

      Feast Days 1997-3015 part 4

      Jewish law required two agreeing witnesses to establish a charge (Deut 19:15).

      Folks, according to Woman clothed with the sun in 2017 is the end so 2017 should be the second coming with Armageddon. Enjoy.

      2017 to end Note: Consider each item that you see lining up to 2017 Armagedon as a “witness” or a sign.

      2017 September is the end of Malkhut she beMalkhut (Kingship within (the week of) Kingship). It is the end of the Jubilee year (Leviticus 25:9-10ff).

      2017 Jubilee 120 (6003); Day 6 Rosh Hashanah\Yom Teruah (Day of Trumpet) Sept 21-22; Day 1 Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Sept 30; Sukkot Day 6 15 (Oct 5); Day 5 21 (Oct 11) Torah Calendar.com Luke 4:17-21 The Lord started His ministry on Yom Kippur and will ONLY return on a Yom Kippur. Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Judgment of the Nations, Ezekiel 38-39 War?, Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff, Rev 19:11ff). He should also return in a year of Jubilee for the Second Coming. http://www.sheepfoldgleanings.com/2014/14_Yom%20Kippur.pdf
      1) Miscellaneous Information Abraham Conceived 1947 BC +2017= 70 AD; 70 AD to 2017=1947 Proclamation of Israel 1947 (Daniel 9:25-26?) Jubilee Information The 7000 Year Plan of Elohim Creation Years 1000 2000 3000 4000 5000 6000 7000 Jubilee Years 20 40 60 80 100 120 140 Ps 90:4; 2 Pet 3:8; Isa 58:6; Isa 61:1-11 compares the Millennium with the Sabbatical or Jubilee years. Adam to Exodus 50 Jubilees; Exodus to 2017 = 70 Jubilees. 50+70=120 Jubilees. (333 BCE Jubilee Year Mede and Persian rule ended) In 333 BCE, Macedonian ruler Alexander the Great defeated Persia and conquered the region. 67 Jubilee; (1517 Jubilee Year); 1517-1917 – OTTOMAN RULE (1867 Jubilee Year); 1867 The final emancipation of the Jews from Austria and Hungry http://www.danielstimeline.com/historyofisrael.html
      2) Yeshua ordained as the Cohen Gadol “The Transfiguration” on Yom Kippur\Day of Atonement- on Tuesday, Sept 30, 27 CE and in 2017 on Sept 30th maybe is Armageddon. (The Chronological Gospels–Michael Rood, p. 150 ). Matt 17:1-9; Rev 1:7. Possibly on Yom Kippur possibly at Creation was the sacrifice of the first animal for Adam and Eve. “You shall know the end from the beginning!” Note: Sept. 30th 2017, Day 3, Mercury at its lowest point in its retrograde.
      3) 1917 Jubilee Battle of Jerusalem 1917 + 100 (2 Jubilees)=2017 Year of Jubilee wikipedia. Battle of Jerusalem 1917. 400 years of Ottoman rule ended by British conquest; British Foreign Minister Balfour pledges support for establishment of a “Jewish national home in Palestine”. Declaration of Balfour Nov 2, 1917. Mars in conjunction with Regulus in Leo when in retrograde. What is interesting about this retrograde beginning in Leo then into the head of Virgo and back to Leo is the concept of the Sphinx with the body of a lion and the head of a woman which kicked of the concept of Israel being a nation restored. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf
      4) 1967 Jubilee 6th Day War in Israel Month 4, Day 2 6/11/1967+Jubilee (Lev. 25:9)=2017 Year of Jubilee. Astronomy. Mars in retrograde loop in Virgo. Mars circling in the womb of Virgo between March 10 (L) and June 24 (H) and conjoins with Spica June 6 prophecies of Israel’s rebirth and subsequent rescue from Gentile control. 1900 years after the war with Rome which resulted in the destruction of the Temple. Two different prophecies pointed to the year 1967 for the deliverance of Jerusalem; Daniel’s 2,300 Year Prophecy; “How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed,” Daniel 8:13-14. Reading the context this prophecy was given in, it speaks about a ram with two horns (Media and Persia; Daniel 8:20, and a rough goat, Greece; Daniel 8:21). “And I saw him (the goat) come close unto the ram, and he was moved with choler against him, and smote the ram, and brake his two horns: and there was no power in the ram to stand before him, but he cast him down to the ground, and stamped upon him: and there was none that could deliver the ram out of his hand,” Daniel 8:7. This part of the prophecy was fulfilled when Alexander the Great, with an army of 35,000 Greeks and Macedonians, crossed the Dardanelles into Asia Minor in 334 BC and defeated the vast Persian Empire. From that time on, Israel would always be “trodden down by Gentiles,” or under the control of foreign nations. However, Daniel prophesied that the sanctuary (Jerusalem) would be trodden down only for 2,300 days. Applying the Biblical time scale; one day = one year; Ezekiel 4:6, and bearing in mind that there is no date 0 AD, we arrive exactly at 1967! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War – chabad.org/multimedia/timeline_cdo/aid/…/Introduction.htm Miracles of the six day war. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf; http://beforeitsnews.com/christian-news/2014/07/kuma-adonai-arise-oh-god-2499856.html; http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingShemitahJubileeYear57745.html
      5) Return of Ephraim from dispersion. “Ephraim’s punishment as outlined in Ezekiel 4:5 was for three hundred and ninety years. However, Leviticus 26:27-28 says that if there is no repentance the punishment will be sevenfold. There was no record of Ephraim (the Northern Kingdom/House of Israel) repenting, so the punishment was for three hundred and ninety years times seven years, or 2730 years. 734 BC marked the year that Ephraim or the Northern Kingdom had lost all political and religious control of any territory it still held. It had become a vassal state of Assyria. 734 BC+2730=1996 AD. Every feast that year was marked with a red blood moon. It was also the year of the Hal-Bopp comet. It also marked the beginning of the 100th jubilee\yovel year from Noah and the 50th yovel from Yeshua\Jesus. 1996+21 years (3 shemitah years; Leviticus 25:1-9; 7 years differences x 3) = 2017. The Significance of the Blood Moons by Mark Biltz: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CSNrXEUCag. Sheepfolds http://www.sheepfoldgleanings.com/2014/14_10 Bechutar Lev 26 3 to 27 34.pdf.
      6) Israel became a nation 1948+70=2018 May 14 or 15; Nov. 29, 1947 Proclamation went out. U.N. divided Palestine into a Jewish\Arab state. Matt 24:32-34 Parable of the Fig Tree. Astronomy. As Mars was completing its retrograde loop, Mars was on conjunction with Regulus (King Star) in Leo. Yeshua was fighting for Israel to become a nation over which He would become a King. Isaiah Prophecy Fulfilled. Israel becoming a nation in one day. 7th Sabbath of Omar count. Sivan 6th, 5948 F.C. Third layer of Daniel’s shavuim commences. http://www.lmci.org/pdfs/episkoposmar2012.pdf; http://www.lasttrumpet.org/JubileeReestablishedJPGMJR.jpg
      7) Judah ben Samuel Prophecy Jubilees 1-8 (1517 to 1917): Turks will rule. Jubilee 9 (1917 to 1967): Jerusalem a “no man’s land.” Jubilee 10 (1967 to 2017): Jerusalem under Jewish control, Messianic end times will begin. Jubilee 11: Begins at Yom Kippur 9/30/17. Messianic King arrives.
      8) Woman Clothed with the Sun in 2017 Rev 12:1-2 Virgo and Leo sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sign.pdf The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12 Note: on 3 BC, his link file does not line up with stellarium in 3 or 2 BC. This event occurs either on the fourth or fifth day. Christ Candle or servant candle is on the fourth day so it is interesting that it would be on this day. The fifth day is on Rosh Chodesh or the first sliver of the New Moon. Sept. 22 is on day 6 and is on Yom Teruah.
      9) Giza Pyramids of 2017. sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sphinx.pdf The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12 Rev 19:6-8 Marriage of the Lamb Month 7 Return of Christ on Yom Kippur Day of Atonement Rev 14:14-20 prelude to Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff; 19:11ff). Wheat-Tares cut by a scaythe (Leo’s Tail) Day of Atonment Judgment of the Nations, Armageddon (Matt 25 Sheep and Goats)
      10) Miracle of the Sun 1917 en.wikipedia/wiki/Miracle of the Sun 1917; skeptoid.com/episode.php?id=4110#bottom; http://www.paranormal-encyclopedia.com/u/ufo/sightings/1917/fatima.html. The Miracle of the Sun (Portuguese: O Milagre do Sol) was an event which occurred on 13 October 1917, attended by 30,000 to 100,000 people gathered near Fátima, Portugal.
      The sun then turned blood red in color and seemed to fall from the sky and hurl itself towards the earth.
      Firstly let us observe the spectacular nature of this miracle. We must turn to the Old Testament to find similar prodigies that were performed in front of an immense crowd of people: such as the manifestation of God to Moses and to the Hebrew people on Mount Sinai (Ex 19); or when Joshua stopped the sun and the moon from advancing so that nightfall would not prevent the Jews from exterminating the enemies of Yahweh (Jos 10).
      I will put enmities between thee [the snake] and the Woman [the Virgin Mary], and between thy seed and her seed [Our Lord; the Church]: she shall crush thy head, and thou shalt lie in wait for her heel [the persecutions of the Church] (Gen 3, 15).
      This miracle occurred on a Sabbath and it was on the fourth Sabbath of the month according to Torahcalendar.com. Today the Parashah is Bereshit which means “In the Beginning.” Bereshit is also the Hebrew name for the book of Genesis. Today is Shabbat Mevarekhin which means “Sabbath of Blessing.” It is the last Sabbath before the new moon. Shabbat Mevarekhin does not occur in Month 6 as the entire month anticipates the new moon of Month 7. Torah Reading: Genesis 1:1-6:8 Haftarahs Reading: Isaiah 42:5-43:11. Number 7 means completion. The fourth Saturday sabbath is interesting in the fact that it ties into the fourth day of Genesis. Genesis 1:14: The Sun, Moon, and Stars is for signs and seasons. It was also the 7th Sabbath of the month. One hundred years later will be October 13th 2017 and it is on the last annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles on Shemini Atzeret (Leviticus 23:36b; Numbers 29:35) on the sixth day. Today is Shemini Atzeret or the “Eighth Day Solemn Assembly.” Shemini Atzeret is a Sabbath day separate and distinct from Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles. It is an appointed time the day after Sukkot on which Israel assembles. One tradition says Jacob married Rachel on this day. Torah Deuteronomy 14:22-16:17; Haftarahs 1 Kings 8:54-66; Extra Readings Numbers 29:35-30:1. Since this is the solemn day of Assembly for Israel, it will be in the Messianic Kingdom for them and it will be a new beginning for one and all. This is the sixth sabbath of the month and 3rd annual sabbath.
      Shemini Atzeret ties into the end of the universe and the globe in 3015. Why because this ties into Revelation 21/22: A New Heaven and a new earth which ties back in Matthew 24:35 Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away.
      The connection is on the Eighth Day. In Hebrew, numbers are important Bullinger and Numbers. The number eight means a new beginning.

      11) 70th Jubilee Prophecy The number 70 is a prophetic number. Daniel the prophet spoke of 70 sevens that must be fulfilled in order for redemption to come. 2447 1415 BCE Moses dies at 120 years (Deut 34:7) Spies return from Jericho with a report (Joshua 2:23-24) A Jubilee is 50 years (49 + 1); the fiftieth year is also the 1st year of the next cycle. From circa 1415 BCE when Joshua son of Nun entered the land to 2016 CE is 70 Jubilee’. Be ready; as a wise virgin. 2478 1414 BCE Abib אביב‎ 10 Jubilee count begins Joshua (‘Yahovah saves’)leads Israel into “the promised land” Joshua 3:17 “And the priests that bare the ark of the covenant of יהוה stood firm on dry ground in the midst of Jordan,” Joshua 4:1 “children of Israel encamped in Gilgal, and kept the passover on the fourteenth day of the month at even in the plains of Jericho. And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of the old corn of the land; neither had the children of Israel manna any more; but they did eat of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year.” Joshua 5:10,12 walkinthelight.ca/timeline.htm; http://www.pray4zion.org/TheComingShemitahJubileeYear57745.html
      Note #1: the Jubilee year is only celebrated when the majority of Jewish people live in the land of Israel – this has now been fulfilled! …Note #2: Jubilee means a time of celebration which begins with a “trumpet blast” throughout the land – the year of Jubilee is also prophetic of both redemption (Rapture) and judgment (Tribulation). The next Jubilee year starts Elul 29, starting the Jewish year 5777, which also represents the eve of the Feast of Trumpets or Rosh Hashana at sundown September 14, 2015…here we have a double trumpet blast (both having the meaning of redemption) starting with the beginning blast of the Jubilee and ending with the Tekiah ha-Gadol, the final great long blast of Yom Teru’ah – could 1 Corinthians 15:52 be a possibility? …Note #3: There will have been 40 complete Jubilee cycles following Christ’s death. The typology of 40 is interesting as it relates to the relationship between “forty” and the fulfillment of promises. Many “40” typology is displayed in the Bible, with the most significant type of all in the forty years of wilderness wandering by the children of Israel leading up to the possession of the temporal land of promise. To be more specific, the exodus out of Egypt and into the promised land by the children of Israel under Moses is a direct shadow of the exodus of the New Testament generation from the cross to the entrance into the eternal land of rest, our heavenly home. In Joshua chapter 6, with the destruction of Jericho at the end of the FORTY year exodus. SEVEN priests, with the Ark of God in the midst, marched with seven trumpets around the wall of Jericho for 6 days. ON the SEVENTH DAY they marched around SEVEN TIMES. At the close of the march, the trumpets were blown, the people shouted, and God caused the walls of Jericho to collapse. The victory was COMPLETE. The events of Jericho offered a graphic image and actual prophecy of events at the CLOSE of the Jewish age, FORTY years after Pentecost…in additional to the “40” type or shadow, the Trumpet blast may also be a shadow of the Last Trump, AND the Seven Priests, Seventh Day and Seven Times [777], could shadow the year 5777, AND the close of the Jewish age a foreshadow of the close of the Church age. Could these types and shadows be a foreshadow of the 40 Jubilee cycles, close of the Church age, and the sounding of the trumpet where the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed, redeemed and enter the promised land, Heaven, the Kingdom of God and the Eternal State?…”Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the (which) DAY or the (which) HOUR” Matthew 25:13 http://www.watchmansview.com/Blood_Red_Moons.html
      12) Covenant Cycle
      A covenant cycle is found in Matthew 1:17 with 14 generation plus 14 generatiions plus 14 generations. Now Matthew used Psalm 90:10 where a generation is 70 or 80.
      70×14=980 years where as 80=1120 years. Two 80 generations puts us into 2240 years which is way too long for our lord’s return. Here is the coputation for 70 generation. 2×980=1960. So if we use 2×980=1960 +70 (Temple destruction)=2030 29 ce (Death of Christ) +1960=1989+33=2022. 27 CE (Ministry Start of Yeshua)+1960+33 (Death of Yeshua age)=2019. 27 CE+1960=1987. 1987 CE Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎). 27 CE +1960+30 (Age of Yeshua at the start of His ministry) = 2017.
      http://www.rtforum.org/lt/lt13.html; Perry Stone on Sid Roth Tsunamis, Blood Moons and End of Times beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/2015/05/blood-moons-and-end-time-prophecy-perry-stone-with-sid-roth-radio-interview-2468942.html; bibletime.com/theory/generation
      A generation can be 20, 40, 50, 70, 80, 100. To prove our case, we use most if not all of them.
      At 10 years, we have this event if 2017 is the end. 2008 Sabbath year (Shmita שמיטה‎)CE Solar eclipse 1st day Abib; Dow Jones Industrial Average falls 777.7 points. Recession for America.
      At 20 years, we have these events: 1997 CE Hale-Bopp Comet at Passover; Kyoto Protocol initially adopted Dec. 11/97 Kyoto, Japan, entered into force on 16 Feb. 2005.
      1998 Modern Israel’s Jubilee.
      At 40 years we have this event: 1978 CE Camp David Peace Accord include framework for comprehensive peace in the Middle East and proposal for Palestinian self-government; Israel withdraws from the Sinai peninsula; Egypt recognizes Israel; Sept 18.
      An interesting fact is that the Liberty Bell–the iconic symbol of American Independence–was inscribed with Leviticus 25:10, the very Scriptures referring to the year of Jubilee. Though the U.S. has never followed the Jubilee Law, I find it intriguing that the bell received its first crack in 1835, which occurred fifty two years after the American War of Independence ended in 1783. Intense! PITN The Final “Jubilee?” Things are Getting Down to the Wire and it is Only a Matter Of Time Before we Hit the End! Lisa Haven Beforeitsnews.com

  42. The Day comes as a thief in the night to those who don’t see it coming.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVaDL8UQgB0

  43. Here is what seems to be signficant.

    Jupiter (king planer) – Regulus (king star) – Venus (Jesus) – Leo (Judah).

    What planet is within or very near Virgo at the date of any conjunction? Is Murcury?

    So then, please share what conjunctions occur in the span of those years?

    Is Jupiter and Venus conjuction BELOW Leo? When?

    This only occurs only once in the span of those years, yes?

    Does any conjunction occur on Feast of Tabernacles? When? Is Jupiter involved?

    Is there one occuring on/during Feast of Trumpets?

    Please share conjunctions that occurs between those years.

    Is Mars or Saturn, or Uranus involved? Where?

    Do any of them occur within Leo (Judah)? If not Leo, where?

    The wise men were not confused.

    Blessings

  44. Please watch these videos.

    This is becoming a frenzy 😕

    Blessings

  45. What?

    “Day of Birth Day of Atonement 9/21/3 BC Mercury and Sun conjoined at Spica.”

    “Where is He born – Born King of Spica?!!”

    No.

    “Where is the angel born in Spica?!!”

    No.

    The question – “Where is He born King of the Jews (Judah)?”

    Leo = Judah.

    This conjunction occured on Feast of Tabernacles because He dwells with us. Life begins at conception.

    LEO. His birth is about the King of Judah (Big Cat).

    Please. Think wise men or you can get lost in space.

    Blessings

  46. You fit these symbols into any situation you choose.

  47. For serious believers -Rev.14 just a partial comment on it.
    REV. 14 Glory Cloud – God was present
    Whenever God manifested himself to his people, he often did so in the Glory Cloud as he had done in Exodus 3:2, Exodus 13:21, Exodus 19:16-19, Deuteronomy 4:11-14, 2 Samuel 22:8-15, 1 Kings 19:11-13, Psalm 18:6-16, Psalm 50:3, Psalm 97:1-5 and Psalm 144:5, Isaiah 66:15-16 and Ezekiel 1. While amidst the Glory Cloud, God was believed to be present in the company of angelic beings according to Deuteronomy 33:2 and Ezekiel 1. Similarly, Jesus said that he would come on the clouds of heaven in the presence of the angelic host during the second coming according Matthew 16:27, Mark 8:38 and Jude 14-15. The expression “coming on the clouds of heaven” is a direct allusion to the coming of Christ in the Glory Cloud as God had so often done in the past. Therefore, the fact that Christ said that he would come on the clouds of heaven is an implicit statement of divinity since the Glory Cloud is the quintessential, incontrovertible sign of the presence of God. Thus this appearance of Christ coming on the literal clouds of the Glory Cloud is the ultimate manifestation of divine glory.
    When the Lord came on the clouds in judgment on a nation he typically came in the midst of cloud and fire or lightning–fire from heaven–according to Exodus 3:2, Exodus 13:21, Exodus 19:16-19, Deuteronomy 4:11-14, 1 Kings 19:11-13 and Psalm 50:3.

    Recall that according to Revelation 8:2 the angels of the seven plagues are angels of the presence of God: “And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets.”

    In Revelation 14:14, Jesus is shown sitting on the clouds during his second coming. Though Jesus’ human-like appearance was visible one month earlier amidst the fiery angelic army in the sky during the part of the second coming described in detail in Revelation 19, Jesus’ human-like form would not have been visible here. Just as the substance of the Glory Cloud that guided the Israelites to the Promised Land in Exodus rendered God invisible to the people, Jesus once again pictured in the Glory Cloud in v. 14 would have also likely been invisible. God had come on the clouds in judgment several times in Old Testament history and each time God was seemingly invisible. This is because the Glory Cloud masked his likeness as it had in Exodus. This point is clearest in Psalm 18:9-14. In Psalm 18, God parts the heavens and rides clouds so dark that they block out the light of his presence. Obscured by these clouds, God fires down lightning in anger from his opaque chariot in the sky. In this later aspect of his second coming, Jesus does the same causing the lightning flash that marked the departure of the angels within the temple according to Tacitus: “A sudden lightening flash from the clouds lit up the Temple. The doors of the holy place abruptly opened, a superhuman voice was heard to declare that the gods were leaving it, and in the same instant came the rushing tumult of their departure.”[xiii]

    The Jordan River is exactly 1,600 stadia.[xiv] In v. 20, John sees blood flowing like wine as high as the horses’ bridles for 1,600 stadia. This flood is a metaphor of the destruction of Israel in preparation for its re-creation. Floods are often used in the Bible as a metaphor for an invading army.[xv] This symbolism points to Rome quite well since Rome is represented by the sea throughout the Book of Revelation.
    Hyperbole like that found in v. 20 in which blood is said to flow as high as a horse’s bridle for 1,600 stadia is not uncommon in Hebrew sacred texts and historical accounts of the time. Identical imagery is found in the 1 Enoch, the Midrash and Talmud. I Enoch 100:2-3 reads, “From dawn until the sun sets, they shall slay each other. The horse shall walk through the blood of sinners up to his chest; and the chariot shall sink down up to its top.” Concerning the slaughter of Jewish rebels during the second Jewish revolt in the second century A.D., the following is written in the Midrash: “They [the Roman army under Hadrian] slew the inhabitants [the Jewish rebels of Bethar] until the horses waded in blood up to the nostrils, and the blood rolled along stones of the size of forty se’ ah and flowed into the sea [staining it for] a distance of four miles.”[xva] Concerning the same war, the Midrash also says, “He [Hadrian] immediately surrounded them [the Jewish rebels] with his legions and slaughtered them, so that their blood streamed [to the coast and stained the sea] as far as Cyprus.”[xvb] Concerning this slaughter at Bethar, the Babylonian Talmud uses similar language: “These are the eighty [thousand] trumpets which assembled in the city of Bethar when it was taken and men, women and children were slain in it until their blood ran into the great sea. Do you think this was near? It was a whole mil away.”[xvc]
    Similar hyperbole is found in 2 Kings 21:16 and Ezekiel 32:6. In Ezekiel, Pharaoh is pictured as a sea monster dragged ashore by the Lord and killed. Concerning Pharaoh’s death Ezekiel 32:6 reads, “I will drench the land with your flowing blood all the way to the mountains, and the ravines will be filled with your flesh.” Similar imagery is found in 2 Kings 21:16 which reads, “Moreover, Manasseh shed very much innocent blood until he had filled Jerusalem from one end to another.” A nearly identical expression is found in Revelation 14:20. According to v. 20, the whole length of Israel “from one end to another” was filled with blood. 1,600 stadia is the exact length of the Jordan River and as such is an estimate of the length of Israel “from one end to another.” Interestingly, Josephus also uses similar language to Ezekiel 32:6 and 2 Kings 21:16 in recording the fulfillment of Revelation 14:20: “Galilee was all over filled with fire and blood.”[xvi] And along these same lines concerning the excessively bloody aftermath of the Jewish War, the Talmud records the following claim: “For seven years did the nations of the world cultivate their vineyards with no other manure than the blood of Israel.”[xvia]

    In Matthew 13:39, Jesus says, “The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.” Though the Jews revolted against Rome during the barley harvest, the Roman offensive began at the start of the grape harvest. Under Cestius, Rome began its offensive during the Jewish War around the month of Tishri which was at the start of the grape harvest. This fact accounts for the grape harvest symbolism in vs. 19-20.
    Here the destruction of Israel prior to the siege of Jerusalem is pictured as the crushing of grapes during the grape harvest. This symbolism is not without precedence: In this verse, as in Isaiah 5:7, Israel is symbolized as a vineyard; and as is the case in Lamentations 1:15, the slaughter of the Israelites is represented as grapes being crushed in a winepress. This imagery is clearly presented in Isaiah 63:1-3:
    Who is this coming from Edom, from Bozrah, with his garments stained crimson? Who is this, robed in splendor, striding forward in the greatness of his strength? “It is I, proclaiming victory, mighty to save.” Why are your garments red like those of one treading the winepress? “I have trodden the winepress alone; from the nations no one was with me. I trampled them in my anger and trod them down in my wrath; their blood spattered my garments, and I stained all my clothing.
    These verses are strikingly similar to the second coming as it is described in Revelation 19:11-15. In these verses Jesus again strides on horseback with garments stained red with blood. His garments are red because he “treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty” in Revelation 19:15 as he had also done in Isaiah 63:3. He does this alone according to Isaiah 63:3 which explains why only Jesus’ garments are stained red in Revelation 19:13-14. The fact that blood reaches his horses’ bridle in Revelation 14:20 explains how Jesus’ garments had become stained red with blood in Revelation 19:13 while he sat atop his white horse. Therefore, far from depicting a literal flood of blood over Israel in the first century, Revelation 14:20 ultimately portrays Jesus coming in judgment on Israel as he rides on his white horse shedding blood up to his horse’s bridle as he “treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.” Remember that 1,600 stadia is the exact length of the Jordan River and as such is an estimate of the length of Israel “from one end to another.”

    Palisade

    • The drying up of the river in Revelation is not a literal drying up but a figurative one. Waters, rivers in a symbolic sense mean people, see Rev 17:15, Isa 17:12, 13. When the people see their have been deceived by the beast they will withdraw their support and the kings of the east come and destroys the beast. Kings of the east is symbolic too, it is Islam. Though the devil invented Islam God is using them to protect his own people from the beast. The reformers, Luther is quoted as saying and I paraphase him “if it wasn’t for Islam attacking the Catholics there would have been no Reformation.”

      • I read it as a literal drying up so that the 200 million army of Mao can come into the middle east for the great battle of Armageddon. Mao said that he
        could raise an army of 200 million . Roads and trains would not suffice for this massive army .

  48. Yes he’ll need to throw away his book on understanding prophecy in 3 minutes. I admit I dont have much understanding – it is ongoing as events unfold and Daniel’s prophecies begin to take shape but there are clear signs before Jesus returning that even the simple can watch for.

  49. We must be in the millennium then and have missed the tribulation and Armageddon – the anti christ has come and gone – and Jesus – should He not be reigning from Jerusalem ? – I have read a few commentaries but yours takes the biscuit . I think you are a member of the church of One.

  50. Jesus is reigning NOW from the Heavenly Jerusalem dear brother. The Bride is living in the “Kingdom of God while on earth”. We are the footstool of God. And Jesus is our King in HIS peculiar Nation of Priest. Read Peter’s gospel below. The Battle of Armageddon has already taken place at least one time. In the 70 AD war. When the revolting Jews came together to unite against Rome. Its all in the History books. But as long as you are a Blood bought servant of God you do not have to worry that much. We all got to grow in the Lord cause if we stop we drop. Lord bless you Bro. Allan.

    1 † ¶ Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings,

    I PETER 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:

    I PETER 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.

    I PETER 2:4 ¶ To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

    I PETER 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

    I PETER 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

    I PETER 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

    I PETER 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

    Bottom line here below

    I PETER 2:9 But ye are a Chosen generation, a Royal priesthood, an Holy Nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

    Palisade

  51. Good post, and good catch DJ.
    2bc is the time that the wisemen came to see Jesus. This is the Star they “followed”. Not how the Christmas story goes though. If you read that account, Herod and his wiseman did not “see” that star, and had to rely on the wisemen to send back word, but the Magi knew that this was a ploy, so they went back a different way. Herod then sent his guard to kill all the children under 2 in Bethlehem, which Puts Jesus birth at 3 BC.
    The Judge is indeed at the door, and soon, the wheat and the tares will be separated. Not all see this as a sign.
    http://lovestthoume.com/FeedMySheep/TheSpiritOfReligionOrTheSpiritOfHoliness.html
    Anno Lucis starts sept. 15th. The year of the false messiah. On the July 12th the temple institute is set to make an “earth shaking” announcement. be on guard, This will create a great divide in those who call themselves Christians. Those who operate by the religious spirit, and those who are led by the Holy Spirit.
    YOU need to examine yourselves, read the article, In all humility ask yourself, am I led by this false spirit of religion, and repent if there is any doubt whatsoever.

    read more here;
    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Grammar/Unit_One/Aleph-Bet/Dalet/dalet.html
    The fourth month of the Hebrew calendar ends on the 16th.

  52. Lindsey Williams 2015 new world order

    • good video

    • fyi,

      Thank you for the video.

      Judgement is coming and it will come like a flood, beginning in the Hebrew year 5776.

      Hebrew year 5776 begins September 15, 2015.

      The last of the 4 Blood Moons is September 28, 2015 over Jerusalem on Feast of Tabernacles. The Fig Tree lesson wirhin Matthew 24 points to all things being completed by 2017. It all fits, thank you Lord.

      I was reminded by someone simply posting Psalm 29 just the other day on FaceBook of what God will also be doing – 7 Thunders.

      This Friend from another state simply posted Psalm 29 without comment.

      The Lord led me read this same passage when I gave a Sunday Morning message on April 29 a few years ago.

      The day before Aptil 29th, I was preparing my message, seeking a passage from Psalms.

      He said, “read the Psalm of the day.”

      Before could complete my clarification question in my mind, asking, “What day?”

      He said, “April.”

      So, I looked up Psalm 29. It didn’t fit my message. I didn’t care if it fit. He said to read it.

      When I was finished with my message – I simply said, “The Lord told me yesterday to read Psalm 29.” I then read the verses.

      We don’t know what these 7 Thunders will look like literally, but Psalm 29 gives an insight.

      “Give unto the Lord, O you mighty ones,
      Give unto the Lord glory and strength.
      Give unto the Lord the glory due to His name;
      Worship the Lord in the beauty of holiness.
      The voice of the Lord is over the waters;
      The God of glory thunders;
      The Lord is over many waters.

      The voice of the Lord is powerful;
      The voice of the Lord is full of majesty.
      The voice of the Lord breaks the cedars,
      Yes, the Lord splinters the cedars of Lebanon.
      He makes them also skip like a calf,
      Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.

      The voice of the Lord divides the flames of fire.
      The voice of the Lord shakes the wilderness;
      The Lord shakes the Wilderness of Kadesh.
      The voice of the Lord makes the deer give birth,
      And strips the forests bare;
      And in His temple everyone says, “Glory!”

      The Lord sat enthroned at the Flood,
      And the Lord sits as King forever.
      The Lord will give strength to His people;
      The Lord will bless His people with peace.

      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm%2029&version=HCSB;KJV;NKJV;CJB

      Glory!

      Blessings to you.
      Psalm 27

    • Well, so far nothing he has predicted has happened yet. And I’m not getting my hopes up that it will all go down in the next few months.
      I guess we’ll see… or not.

  53. http://hommen-officiel.fr/?page_id=5

    Hommen – protect kids ,

    Manuel Half (fake name} is one member in this movement, he is a kid who is raised up by gay people,. it is very painful experience for him.

    this movement come from the deep cry of those innocent kids.

    a movement happen in France, their slogan is protect kid, they are against gay people adopt the kids .

    if anyone could find any English info regarding to this , please post link, thanks

    God Have Mercy for all those kids !!!

  54. Star of Bethlehem #2, that in light of the Jew’s expectation of their Messiah appearing in September 2015, suggests it was a sign the heralding of the coming of the antichrist as explained below.
    The Rare Venus Jupiter Conjunction–The Star of Bethlehem #2 and the antichrist
    End times Forecaster William Frederick
    If this rare Venus Jupiter conjunction is a sign, then I believe it will be antichrist related and may have an antichrist event associated with it. I believe it is also possible that if there is an event, it may not be public. The Jews missed the sign in 2 BC, but the wise men were able to discern its importance. I wonder what will happen this time around.
    Regardless of if anything happens or not I believe, to the “wise men,” this sign foretells the soon coming of the antichrist.
    The Star of Bethlehem #2 involved Venus which is now in retrograde and researcher Luis Vega has brought some prophetically important aspects of this retrograde.
    The prelude of the Venus retrograde on June 26, 2015 coincided with the Greek meltdown. It is but a forerunner of a long line of successive and coordinated implosions that will eventually lead to the collapse of the current global orders. Symbolically, Greece is the cradle of western civilization, though art, culture, democracy, religion, philosophy, etc. It appears ironically that as a Greek Tragedy the global Money Changers have chosen this symbol, this nation to coincide with the end of western civilization’s great and sacred orders. It was on this day also that the U.S. Supreme Court reinterpreted the verbiage in redefining what marriage is. It was also on this date that the U.S. Congress passed the Trans Pacific Partnership TPP that strips the USA of its last remaining vestiges of sovereignty. What is transpiring before the eyes of America is her American Tragedy…
    Was it mere chance that these world changing decisions occurred on the heels of this ‘Christ Star’ and start of Venus’ retrograde? Such a day was perhaps prophetic that reflected a ‘backwardness’ or regression of all that the USA has fought to establish since 1776.
    Luis Vega also informs us that this retrograde ends just before the signaled events of September 2015 are to occur.
    What is also interesting is that Venus does a retrograde now or a ‘dance’ from approximately 7-11 to 9-11, exactly 2 months on the eve of the partial solar eclipse and the end of the Shmitah cycle on the civil New Year of YHVH, September 13, 2015.
    http://nebula.wsimg.com/8da5070bbe41fd95af10ef460e8d9060?AccessKeyId=D40106E1331C24ABD7C3&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

    • jardalkal,

      Thanks again for your reply, which included the work of Luis.

      I just sent him a message that included the Fig Tree Lesson that points to 2017, Jubilee count (50 years per Leviticus 25:9-12) that points to 2017 and a unique sign in the heavens on September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah).

      Blessings

    • jardalkal,

      Luis’ work is very good.

      He notices a dance of Venus exactly 2 months (60 days).

      Oh that dance of Venus between 7/11 and 9/11 is very interesting indeed if you know what occured on 9/11 and that the conjuction of Jupiter/Venus before Leo on June 30th is exactly 90 days before the Blood Moon over Jerusalem (Sept. 28, 2015).

      Is anyone paying attention?!

      Okay, let the virgins sleep a little longer (Matthew 25:1-10).

  55. jardalkal,

    Thank you for sharing Luis’ article. I greatly appreciate his work, asking Marianne to post this on Heaven Awaits.

    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/solar-eclipse-patterns-by-lu-vega/

    Hebrew year 5776, which begins September 15, 2015 is very, very significant to those who worship the “all seeing eye.” The son of perdition is about to be revealed (2nd Thess. 2:3).

    As for the conception date and brith date of Jesus (Yeahua), you can see the details in this link below. Please note that the sign of Rev. 12:1-5 occurred on September 29, 2011 ~ Feast of Trumpets.

    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/signs-in-the-heavens/

    I was looking at Stellaruim (adjusting for the BC/AD calendar and number counter) as I typed the following –

    On 09/11 3BC there is a conjuntion of Jupiter (King Planet) and Regulus (King Star) within Leo (King of Judah).

    On that very same date within Virgo – the Virgin is clothed in the sun. The sun is very close to her womb. Venus is on her shoulder and Mercury (angelic messenger) is within Virgo too. Yes, she is clothed in the sun while there is conjunction of King Planet and King Star WITHIN Leo on the same date (9/11).

    Does 9/11 sound familiar?

    The Beast still has issues with 9/11 and with the fact that life begins at conception, yes?

    Then, 9 months later – His birth occurs on June 2BC. His birth occurred on a date of sadness, turning it to a date of great joy.

    Remember, Mary was told of the conception and birth in Elul. Elul is the 6th month on the religious Hebrew calendar.

    An angel tells Mary in the 6th month. Why wait beyond the following month (Tishrei) for His conception?

    She was told of the conception in Elul (August) and the conception occurred in the next month, which is Tishrei (September). That is easy to understand, yes?

    I would like Luis to reply to this –

    Since we are reading a significant conjunction of Jupiter/Venus on June 30, 2015 – Let’s be consistent with that application of the King Planet (Jupiter) in other conjunctions within or below or before Leo (King of Judah). Simple.

    The King Planet (Jupiter) is so vital this June 30, 2015 event, yes?

    It is for the same reason the King Planet is so vital at His conception and at His birth.

    09/11 3BC (conception) and 9 months later on 06/15 2BC (birth) there is Jupiter in conjunction within Leo – within, then below 9 months later.

    We see the same conjunction of Jupiter/Venus, occuring before Leo on June 30th, which is 90 days before a Blood Moon over Jerusalem. Wow?!

    We can see on 09/11 3BC (Feast of Tabernacles) that Hs life on earth begins at conception because Mary was told of this the preceding month. Then – He is born 9 months later, converting a day of sorrow into great joy.

    According to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era to a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”. We know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows (June 2BC or Tamuz 2BC) into a day of Joy!

    In the month of Tamuz, 2BC – we see Jupiter again in conjuction. Amazing timing this conjunction Jupiter/Venus (Rev. 22:6) on the 17th of Tamuz BELOW Leo.

    A Jupiter King Plant / Venus conjunction BEFORE Leo is what makes June 30, 2015 so very significant.

    He is at the door as Judge, according to James 5:9.

    Next – and this is very significant. I don’t think Luis knows.

    On September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah) – Jupiter (representation of God) is with Virgo (virgin), while Venus (representation of Jesus) is in Leo (King of Judah). The moon is at the feet of Virgo and she is clothed in the sun.

    On this day- Venus (representing Jesus), Mars (representing war), Mercury (representing angelic messenger) and Jupiter (representing God) are in a line. This seems to represent order. The alignment is within Leo and Virgo.

    On this same date, Saturn (representing Satan/Dragon) is in Ophiuchus.

    Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent; the interposition of his body divides the snake constellation Serpens into two parts, Serpens Caput and Serpens Cauda, which are nonetheless counted as one constellation.

    Saturn (Satan/Dragon) is within Ophiuchus on September 23, 2017 (Shabbat Shuvah). This seems appropriate. Someone is holding a serpent; “Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven with the key to the abyss and a great chain in his hand. He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for 1,000 years…After that, he must be released for a short time” (Rev. 20:1-3, HCSB).

    “Shabbat Shuvah (“Sabbath [of] Return” שבת שובה) refers to the Shabbat that occurs during the Ten Days of Repentance between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. Only one Shabbat can occur between these dates.

    This sign in the heavens on Shabbat Shuvah occurs 70 years (generation per Psalm 90:10 and Jeremiah 29:10) after 1947 (UN proclamation to establish Israel).

    The sign of September 23, 2017 fits the Fig Tree Lesson. Amazing!

    Can we know what is the length of this “generation” that Jesus spoke about in Matthew 24:32-35?

    And can we know exactly what He meant by the fig tree “putting forth leaves”?

    There are 7 definitions and 7 is the number of completeness.

    1) According to Gen. 6:3 it may be as long as 120 years.
    2) Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16 indicates 100 years.
    3) Psalms 90:10 indicates a possible 80 years.
    4) Psalms 90:10 also indicates a more likely 70 years.
    5) Matthew 1:17 may indicate around 50 years
    6) Psalms 95:10 indicates 40 years.
    7) Deut. 2:14 indicates 38 years.

    2017 – Using ALL 7 generations, based on the premise of ISRAEL being the fig tree Jesus spoke about in the end times:

    1) 2017 counting back a 120 year generation = 1897.
    Significant event: The first ever Zionist congress was held in Basel, Switzerland in 1897.

    2) 2017 counting back a 100 year generation = 1917.
    Significant event: The first official political act paving the way for Jews to return to their land was the Balfour Declaration of November 1917.

    3) 2017 counting back a 80 year generation = 1937.
    Significant event: The Peel Commission published a report that for the first time recommended partition of Palestine, and the land under it’s authority be apportioned between an Arab and Jewish state. The plan was declared unimplementable.

    4) 2017 counting back a 70 year generation = 1947.
    Significant event: The United Nations general assembly voted in favour of the Partition Plan that actually created… the State of Israel!

    5) 2017 counting back a 50 year generation = 1967.
    Significant event: The Jews regained Jerusalem, fulfilling“when the fig tree putteth forth leaves.”

    Choosing a 50 year generation requires some explanation. Some people have reckoned on a 50 year generation, starting with 70 using Psalm 90:10 for an average age, and then taking away 20, because those under 20 years old who came out of Egypt were not counted, as mentioned fifteen times in the book of Numbers, Chapter 1.

    6) 2017 counting back a 40 year generation = 1977.
    Significant event: The State of Israel reaches the Jewish “age of maturity.” In the Old Testament Bible, priests could not work in the tabernacle until age 30. See Numbers 4:3.

    This was when they were considered mature. Modern Israel was born in 1947.

    Now do the calculation: 1947 + 30 = 1977.

    “When the fig tree putteth forth leaves” could be considered as another way of saying “when Israel becomes mature.” An example of this maturity is that the Liqud political party came to power in Israel in 1977. The Hebrew word Liqud means ‘The Consolidation’ in English.

    7) 2017 counting back a 38 year generation = 1979.
    Significant event: Israel signs a peace treaty with Egypt. Other than the events already mentioned I’m thinking this would be considered the other most positive historical step towards modern Israel’s expansion, showing “the fig tree putting forth leaves”. It led to many long term benefits, such as providing for the free passage of Israeli ships through the Suez Canal.

    And is 2017 really significant?

    See the years of Jubilee (Leviticus 25:8-11).

    2017 is the Jubilee when counting back to 1967.

    In 1967, Israel gained control over Jerusalem for the first time since the days of King Solomon.

    1967 + 50 years (Jubilee) = 2017 (Jubilee).

    Seal 1-5 are open. The 6th seal is in the process of opening.

    Hebrew year 5776 is very, very significant to those who worship the all seeing eye.

    Why?

    The son of perdition is about to be revealed (2nd Thess. 2:3).

    I think the season of God’s Sabbath rest for 1000 years as our Lord reigns begins on Fall day in 2017.

    Blessings
    Rev. 12:11

    • dj

      how do you equate sabbath rest beginning in the same month the son of perdition will be revealed?

      • Marianne,

        I didn’t make an equate.

        Son of Perdition is revealed in the Hebrew year 5776, which begins September 15, 2015.

        The reference for his revealing is 2nd Thess. 2:3, “Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction…” (ESV).

        Entering into God’s Rest (per Fig Tree Lesson, signs in the heavens and Jubilee count) seems to occur one day in the Fall of 2017.

        Hebrews 4:9-11, “So then, there remains a Sabbath rest for the people of God, for whoever has entered God’s rest has also rested from his works as God did from his. Let us therefore strive to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by the same sort of disobedience” (ESV).

        I wonder how the son of perdition is revealed to the sleeping virgins?

        • ok

          the sleeping virgins will wake up when they find themselves in FEMA death camps, awaiting beheading.

          • Really? I heard that is the midnight cry. Which announces the coming of the bridegroom(Christ) to come collect his bride.

        • 2nd Thess 2:3 is a reference to the then future fall of the Roman Empire leading to the antichrist the Roman Papacy.

  56. DJ, you June 2 Birth of Christ is way off because it is not mentioned in Leviticus 23 and everybody knows that chapter is the Redemptive Story of Jesus Christ but you can stay with your lies.
    As for your Nibiru comment of the person following NIbiru, that would be me because Nibiru came into my radar when it began lining up wih scripture and the dates lining up with leviticus 23 so since you want me to leave the premises, your command as king is obeyed, so adios everyone.

  57. Retrograde –

    directed or moving backward.
    “a retrograde flow”
    synonyms: backward, backwards, reverse, rearward
    “retrograde motion”

    ASTRONOMYASTROLOGY
    (of the apparent motion of a planet) in a reverse direction from normal (from east to west), resulting from the relative orbital progress of the earth and the planet.
    ASTRONOMY
    (of the orbit or rotation of a planet or planetary satellite) in a reverse direction from that normal in the solar system.

  58. It would only be meaningful if you think of a 60 day count down to 9/11.

    9/11 has a deeper meaning as Betsy explains in great detail.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dWcARHV71bU

    There doesn’t seem to be any thing of importance with the date 7/11/2015.

    I agree that the foolish virgins awaken in a FEMA camp.

    Luis writes,

    “What this last generation has is not only the information or knowledge but the understanding of it as it has come to be revealed by the Holy Spirit because it is for the Last Generation. It would appear that now in these Last Days perhaps the LORD has given His Church a glimpse of the meaning of and understanding of the various cosmic signs.

    The Church in some respects has neglected this study that the esoterics and Luciferians are far more versed and skilled in. For example, if mass persecution and purging occurs in America of Christians, it will be because the Pastors did not warn the flocks of such possible pending calamities. The verse will ring true in that the ‘People of YHVH parish for lack of knowledge’. And ‘where there is no vision, the People of YHVH parish’. Perhaps it was in keeping with Daniel to not have such understanding but for the Last Days. A whole lot of people and prominent church leaders are seeing sort of the same things and speaking about something happening in the Fall/Winter of 2015.

    It is/will be a turning point prophetically. Even most economic experts are saying the same thing. What is also interesting is that Venus does a retrograde now or a ‘dance’ from approximately 7-11 to 9-11, exactly 2 months on the eve of the partial solar eclipse and the end of the Shmitah cycle on the civil New Year of YHVH, September 13, 2015. Perhaps this is a type of the Bride doing her dance before the Groom as it occurs in most weddings? Others are attributing this Venus retrograde that occurs in front of the constellation Leo as a ‘gate’. This would insinuate the ‘Lion’s Gate’ that perhaps could be an opportunity for the Rapture period or not. It could also be a time or seasons that truly could be portal of sorts but in the spiritual realm that would and will affect the Earth directly perhaps. Nevertheless, the ominous signs abound as the world will be a much different place than before.”

    This passage came to my attention a few months ago –

    “Consider what I say, for the Lord will give you understanding in everything.

    Keep your attention on Jesus Christ as risen from the dead and descended from David. This is according to my gospel. 9 I suffer for it to the point of being bound like a criminal, but God’s message is not bound. 10 This is why I endure all things for the elect: so that they also may obtain salvation, which is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory. This saying is trustworthy:

    For if we have died with Him,
    we will also live with Him;
    if we endure, we will also reign with Him;
    if we deny Him, He will also deny us;
    if we are faithless, He remains faithful,
    for He cannot deny Himself” (2nd Tim. 2:7-13).

    Blessings
    Rev. 12:11

  59. DJ, July 11 is important if you are a Jew and Luis is one. He is also an Asperger person with Dyslexia.
    For him to do just 1 eschatological article or file may take him 1 to 3 months to do.
    As for July 11, it is month 4 23 On this day it is a Shabbat which means tribes. Parashah #42 Scripture Readings Mattot (Tribes) Torah Numbers 30:1-32:42 Haftarahs Jeremiah 1:1-2:3.

    Tammuz 23

    In 1099, Crusaders captured Jerusalem. The Crusades were a Catholic Church-sponsored movement to “liberate the Holy Land from the infidels.” (En route, the Crusaders carried out a campaign of rape and pillage; an estimated 40% of European Jewry was slaughtered in the process.) The day following their conquest of Jerusalem, the Crusaders murdered all the city’s Jews, by herding them into a synagogue and setting it on fire. Jews were barred from Jerusalem for the next century. Muslims were also victims of the Crusaders, which historians believe planted a deep-seeded hatred of the West.

    The beginning and end of a retrograde can be lined up with events from the Bible as well as the approximate dates at the end of the oval.
    Also, it is important to understand the Jewish wedding from beginning to end.
    God does things by the scriptures so our understanding of everything by scripture is very important so you always have to come from a Biblical point of view which DJ does not do such as June 2 birth of Jesus.
    DJ, if Jesus was born on June 2 as you say, then there would be no heaven or earth presently becuase there is no mention of Tammuz in Leviticus 23. That chapter is God’s calendar so the birth has to line up on the day of Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, Day of Trumpet, Day of Atonement or the First and Second Annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles. Everything concerning Jesus has to line up with Scripture or earth explodes.
    I suggest you go back to the drawing board nd try again on the birth of Jesus.

    • jardalkal,

      Let me take a few lines to line up Scriptures to save the planet. Please follow along to the end of this reply.

      I think Mary was told of the pending conception and birth in the 6th month. This is a religious/spiritual event, therefore Nisan is the first month and Elul is the 6th month.

      The conception would then occur the following month, which is Tishrei (September 11).

      Life begins at conception. Therefore, He came to earth during Feasts of Tabernacles (Emmanuel, God is or “dwelt” with us). “And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth”(John 1:14, NKJV).

      “The Greek word “dwelt” [skeinao] comes from the word skeinos, which the LXX (Septuagint) uses for the mishkan (tabernacle). The name given for the feast of Tabernacles itself is called Herotei Skeinon in the LXX” (John Parsons).

      Tishrei + 9 months is the month of Tamuz.

      According to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”.

      We know the birth of our Lord and Savior would transform this day of sorrows to a day of joy!

      While I’m not Hebrew by birth but grafted into the tree, I seek out reliable sources on Hebrew tradition/culture, history, language, and OT Scriptures, including Torah.

      These sources were applied for understanding the importance of the 17th Day of Tamuz.

      http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tishah_B_Av/tishah_b_av.html

      http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tzom_Tammuz/tzom_tammuz.html

      The heavenly signs (conjunctions involving Jupiter in the constellation of Leo) are in agreement with a Feast of Tabernacles conception and a birth day, turning a day of sorrow (17th of Tamuz) into a day great joy.

      Jupiter/Regulus conjunction IN Leo (Feast of Tabernacles, 9/11)

      Jupiter/Venus conjunction BELOW Leo (17th day of Tamuz).

      Could I be wrong about the date of His conception – sure.

      It may well be Feast of Tabernacles is His birth.

      His conception occurs 9 months earlier, during the month of Kislev. The first day of the Jewish festival of Chanukah, the Festival of Lights, is celebrated on the 25th day of Kislev, and Yeshua is called the Light of the world in John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46″ (John Parsons).

      His birth day would then be 9 months later on Feast of Tabernacles, 9/11. There is a sign in the heavens on that date. It is Jupiter/Regulus in Leo.

      However – there in no sign in the heavens of any significance on the 25th of Kislev in that year. There is no conjunction or any significant sign in Virgo in that season or on that date.

      There is a sign in the heavens on Feast of Tabernacles (9/11) for His conception and 9 months later on the 17th of Tamuz for His birth.

      I do appreciate Lu’s work, expressing my appreciation every time I write him. He does the same in reply.

      Your parting comment to me is not appreciated at all. However – Blessings to you.

  60. Jardalkal,

    When I quoted Lu at length above, he didn’t give any Hebrew history or indication of any significance to 7/11. You did. Thank you.

    Lu was gracious in his reply to my email sent to him this morning.

    Before I share a portion of his reply with you and the readers of thi thread – I’ll post the following for clarification. This is Scripture supporting a 17th day of Tamuz birth.

    His birth, during the Hebrew month of Tamuz (June/July) and on the 17th day of that month, which marks the beginning of the three-week mourning period leading up to Tisha B’Av.

    This time of fasting commemorates the destruction of both the First Temple and Second Temple in Jerusalem; the day has been called the “saddest day in Jewish history”.

    On this day, Moses descended from Sinai with the 10 commandments, and then broke them when seeing the wickedness of the people.

    Isaiah 53: 3-4 reads:

    “He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him. Surely He has borne our griefs and carried our sorrows; yet we esteemed Him stricken, smitten by God, and afflicted” (NKJV).

    But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”. We know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows to a day of joy!

    My references for the above are as follows because I wanted a Hebrew perspective. Hebrew 4 Christians fits the need.

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tzom_Tammuz/tzom_tammuz.html

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Tammuz/tammuz.html

    Luke 2:10-12 records the news.

    “Then the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid, for behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy which will be to all people. For there is born to you this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord. And this will be the sign to you: You will find a Babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger” (NKJV).

    Our Savior was born on the 17th day of Tamuz, 2 BC under the “Star of Bethlehem” which was beneath the constellation Leo – as seen with Stellarium software.

    The following is a portion of Lu’s reply.

    “I do nonetheless believe 2017 will be a pivotal year like 5776. The Virgo sign is ominous for one as you recognize. I also did several charts a while back about it: http://www.postscripts.org/charts-8.html

    They are cataloged in the File #8 webpage for viewing, truly spectacular. Well there is much work to still be done but I appreciate your work as well in bringing the pieces of the puzzle together. Blessings. Lu”

    God bless you too.

  61. DJ here we go again, You are getting a birth mixed up with death.
    Isaiah 53:3-4 point to passover. So you are agreeing that he was born at Passover to die at Passover. That is what you just told me.
    DJ, go talk to a Jewish Messianic preacher.
    If Jesus was born in JUne then this planet should have been vaporized.

    Also The Bible does not list Babylonian months. The only month listed is Abib. After Abib is month 2, month 3, month 4 , month 5, month 6, month 7, month 8, month 9, month 10.

    Also show me by using e-sword where month 4, day 2 is mentioned.

    So you just told me that you follow Baalism, mithraism, and you just told me that you worrship other gods.

    You also take verses out of context which means you know nothing of Biblical exegesis.

    Here is the exegesis on Luke 2.
    Luke 2

    The decree of Caesar Augustus Lk 2:1-3
    Luk 2:1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
    Augustus. Title with overtones of divinity given by the Roman Senate in 27 B.C.E. to Gaius Julius Caesar Octavianus, founder of the Roman Empire. He ruled the Mediterranean world until 14 C.E. should be taxed. This was an enrolling, numbering, or census of all the Roman world.
    In the 25th year of the reign of Caesar Augustus (3-2 BC), by the command of Rome, all subjects of the empire were required to register their support in naming the “Divine Emperor” Octavius Augustus the “Father of the Roman Empire” which was approved by the Roman Senate on February 5, 2 BCE.
    For more significantly, by the commandment of YHVH, all Israelite males are reqiuired to “go up” to the Feast of YHVH three times a year. Joseph registers with Rome in Bethlehen at his convenience when he takes his pregnant wife Miriam up to the Feast of Sukkot/Tabernacles as the two cities are only 5 miles apart.
    Luk 2:2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
    There is an historical problem because, according to Tacitus and others, Quirinius did not begin governing in Syria until 6 C.E. But he was in charge of Syria’s defense and foreign policy under Varus around 7 B.C.E. and later, so he could have supervised the registration (for tax purposes) in Herod’s territory. Cyrenius was governor of Syria twice; from 4 B.C. to 1 A.D., when this census was taken, and again in 6 A.D.
    This registration, the first of its kind, or: “this first registration,” before the better-known one of 6 C.E. referred to in Act_5:37.
    Luk 2:3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

    Joseph and Miriam “go up” to Jerusalem for the Feast of Sukkot They also register for the Roman census in the nearby village of Beit Lechem Both being netzerim of the house of David, Joseph and Miriam are undoubtedly familiar with Micah’s prophecy that the Messiah would be born in their ancestral village Beit Lechem (Bethlehem).
    Luk 2:4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:) Micah 5:2 prophecy.

    Luk 2:5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

    Luk 2:6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

    The Word was made flesh and “tabernacled” among us. Yeshua is born in a sukkah on the High Sabbath of Feast of Sukkot (Sukkot-15th Day of the 7th Month, Thursday 26th, 3 BC) Lk 2:7-20; Jn 1:14
    Luk 2:7 And she brought forth her firstborn son, and wrapped him in swaddling clothes, and laid him in a manger; because there was no room for them in the inn.
    swaddling clothes were cloths wrapped around an infant in the Near East in Bible times. manger. A feeding trough for animals in a stall or stable. Tradition says that Yeshua was born in a cave, in which case the manger may have been cut out of a rock wall.
    Sukkah. Primarily because the specific details of the Feast of Sukkot/Tabernacles are foreign to Western culture, the word “manger” has been inventively interpreted as everything from an animal stall to a pig feeding trough. However, during Sukkot all males from their thirteenth year and upward are required to build and live in temporary shelters-tabernacles or mangers (Heb. Sukkot, Grk. phante or skene)–for seven days. The birth of Yeshua took place on the first day of Sukkot. Miriam, being a pregnant woman, was not required to live in a sukkah. “The Word was made flesh and tabernacled/sukkah-ed among us” (Jn 1:14) as an intermediate fulfillment of the Feast of Tabernacles. Gen 33:17 likewise records that “Jacob made temporary shelters for his flocks; therefore, the name was called Sukkot/Sukkoth.
    Swaddling clothes. A child of the king and potential heir to the throne was salted and swaddled as part of the initial dedication of the child and in recognition of the parents’ responsibility to raise the child according to the straight path (Ezek 16:4). Soon after birth, the child was washed with salted water and bound in the swaddling cloths with all of his limbs made straight. The parents prayed over the child in a short ceremony of thanksgiving and dedication, vowing to raise the child in a straightforward and upright manner. Swaddling cloths were made from the priests’ garments that were no longer serviceable. This cloth was used for the wicks in the Temple menorah and for swaddling the sons of kings. There is little doubt that Elisheva, the wife of the cohen Zecharyah, would have coveted the opportunity to provide the swaddling cloths for this momentous event.

    Luk 2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
    Shepherds. Shepherding was and is a despised occupation in the Middle East; at the other end of the social scale were the Magi of Mat_2:1 ff. Both came to honor the Messiah of high and low alike.
    Luk 2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

    Luk 2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.
    The coming of Yeshua the Messiah is good news that brings great joy to all the people; the “people” is Israel (as in Luk_2:32 below).
    Luk 2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
    A deliverer or “savior.” Greek sôteêr, corresponding to Hebrew moshia’, which is another form of the word “hoshia’ ” (see Mat_21:9) and is related to Yeshua’s own name (see Mat_1:21). The word “sôteêr” is first used in the New Testament at Luk_1:47, where it refers to God (i.e., the Father); here it refers to Yeshua as having functions which are exclusively God’s.
    A study of the word “yasha’ ” (“save”) in the Tanakh reveals several senses in which it is used in connection with God. God saves Israel (Exo_14:30) his people (2Sa_3:18) from the hand of her enemies (1Sa_4:3), and he promises to save them also from their uncleannesses (Eze_36:29). He saves afflicted ones (Psa_18:28 (Psa_18:27)), those of a contrite spirit (Psa_34:19 (Psa_34:18)), the children of the needy (Psa_72:4), the poor from the sword (Job_5:15), and the humble (Job_22:29). He saves not with sword and spear (1Sa_17:47) but with his right hand (Psa_138:7), in his mercy (Psa_31:17 (Psa_31:16)), and for the sake of his own name (Psa_106:8). He can save directly (1Sa_10:19) or through a human agent such as King Jeroboam (2Ki_14:27), and in one instance the credit is given to “the angel of his presence” (Isa_63:9). In conclusion, salvation may be from outward enemies or inward uncleannesses (sins), and it may apply to a people or to an individual.
    Thus the New Testament, which uses the word “sôteêr” 24 times and the related verb “sôzoô” (“save”) 44 times, builds on the foundation already established in the Tanakh. When inquiry is made as to whether someone is “saved,” the question has roots in the Tanakh as well as in the New Testament.
    Messiah (Anointed one). The person who will usher in a time of universal peace. Within Judaism, there are differing interpretations of exactly what the Mashiach will mean. A traditional Orthodox interpretation is that the Prophet Elijah will return, followed by a descendant of King David who will be chosen by God as the Mashiach. He will put an end to evil in the world, rebuild the Temple, and usher in the world to come (olam ha-ba). Jews will be “gathered in” and reunited in the Land of Israel. Many Jews believe that doing more mitzvot/commands and leading a pious life will hasten the arrival of the Mashiach. Reconstructionist Jews do not believe that ancient Jerusalem will be restored; they believe in a Messianic Age rather than an embodied Messiah. The Jewish concept of a Messiah is very different from the Christian one. Jews do not believe that the Messiah has come yet.
    Lord (YHVH, or God). Today because Jews believe that God’s name is sacred, it is not spoken; instead the letters are usually read as Adonai or ha-Shem. Another common name in the Torah of God is Elohim. There are many other names of God, reflecting God’s various roles. For example, in Eodus 3:14, God tells Moses that God’s name is Ehyeh-Asher-Ehyeh (I Am That I Am).
    He was both God and man.
    Luk 2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger. I Sam 2:34; 2 Ki 19:29; 20:8; Isa 7:11, 14.

    Luk 2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

    Luk 2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.
    This verse commences the liturgical passage known in the western world as the Gloria. People of good will are people whom the will of God favors and whose own wills desire what God wills. The latter is itself a consequence of God’s favor (Eph_2:8-10; compare Rom_11:31). good will toward men. More accurately the phrase reads, “among men with whom He is pleased.” The peace promised is not given universally to men who possess good will toward God but individually to men who are the recipients of His favor and grace.

    Tammuz has no time frame for doing a censis of all of the tribes. Only Passover, Pentecost, and Feast of Tabernacles which is found in Leviticus 23.
    So DJ, go back to the drawing board and try again to fit the birth of Jesus to Passover, Pentecost or the 7th Biblical month.

  62. DJ, this is for you.

    Luis B. Vega Eschatological Files
    Birth of Christ Charts 9 of 14 Bethlehem 1, 2, 3, and Magi 1
    According to Bethlehem Chart 3, Jesus was visited by the wisemen in December -2 BC when Jesus was 1.5 to 2 years old. This is reconfirmed by the Magi chart.
    Dr. Dale Sides and Dr. William Frederick both teach that Jesus was born 9/11/-3 BC. Michael Rood also teaches that He was born in the month of Tishrei which is month 7. I, John Ashcraft teaches that He was born in the month of Tishrei. Dr. Denis Otero teaches that He was born in the month of Tishrei. Adat Yeshua Jewish Messianic Church teaches that He was born in the month of Tishrei which is the 7th biblical month that was the first month until the Exodus in 1441 or 1446 BCE. This is all based on the Redemptive Story of Jesus Christ found in Leviticus 23 which is God’s Biblical Calendar.
    DJ teaches that He was born in Tammuz in -2 BC. The Christians teach that He was born in the month of December. So these two groups follow Baalism and Mithraism.

  63. Where’s that chalk?

    “But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”.

    We know the birth of our Lord and Savior transformed this day of sorrows to a day of joy!

    My references for the above are as follows because I wanted a Hebrew perspective. Hebrew 4 Christians fits the need.”

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tzom_Tammuz/tzom_tammuz.html

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Tammuz/tammuz.html

    Lu was polite and understood.

    What did you miss?

    I admitted that Feast of Tabernacles could be His birth day. Okay?

    You seem to want more.

    The point of this page is this – The Judge is at the door (James 5:9).

    Lu agrees – something big is about to happen.

    At this point – Marianne steps in and does her parenting mother role. I’m putting my chalk down.

    Blessings

  64. DJ, Hebrews4Christians place His birth either in Kislev or Tishrei.
    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Christmas/christmas.html

    Before you jump to conlusions, research harder next time.

    All I did was use this phrase for my search: Birth of Jesus Hebrew4Christians.

    If you think you lied at this point, I think you owe an apology to all those people on your “Birth of Jesus in the month of Tammuz” article.

    You have already admitted it to me. By the way, a confident told me that you do a lot of lying and that person also said to watch out for some guy named Jim who also does a lot of lying.

    • jardalkal

      as far as I know, you do not have email access to others on this site….so I do not see how you would have an opportunity to gain such views from others

      do not put words in mouths of others

    • jardalkal

      calling someone a liar is defamation of character….I will not allow this…

      this is a warning

      do not do it again.

  65. Marianne.

    Never mind.

  66. jardalkal,

    I exchange emails with Lu.

    We’ve covered that issue completely.

    He didn’t submit a reason for 7/11 being significant – you did. Thank you.

    7/11 to 9/11 is 60 days. Great.

    9/11 is very, very significant.

    September 28, 2015 – Blood Moon over Jerusalem looks to be VERY significant.

    There are 90 days between June 30th conjuntion and a blood moon over Jersualem.

    Lu agrees relative to the significance of Hebrew year 5776 and 2017.

    I post resources – Hebrew4Christians.

    John Parsons presents a couple of options for Yeshua’s birth date. He does settle on a December conception (Light) and September birth (Tabernacles). I did my homework, listing references.

    John Parsons does very good work. I supported his work with monthy donations. I can differ with him and not call him names or impugn his integrity.

    Marianne –

    Parson wrote this, “But, according to according to Hebrew tradition, as recorded in Zechariah 8, the 17th of Tamuz will be transformed in the messianic era in a day that “shall be joy to the House of Judah” full of “gladness and cheerful feasts”.

    The reference above was given and is given fbecause I wanted a Hebrew perspective. Hebrew 4 Christians fits the need.

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Summer_Holidays/Tzom_Tammuz/tzom_tammuz.html

    http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Holidays/Rosh_Chodesh/Tammuz/tammuz.html

    There is a problem here and it’s getting strange.

    I’m put in the company of pagans for suggesting my Lord’s conception is the beginning of His life on earth (Feast of Taberncales) and His birth occurs 9 months later, turning a day of sorrow into JOY!?

    Now you post a public message that I lie? You have unnamed sources that say I’m lying.

    Look out for Jim?

    Really?

    This is nuts.

    • dj

      I did not say that you lie….I would never do that….

      I quoted chabad.org with reference to the expected birth date of messiah…so I am just noting that Pasron disagrees with orthodox jews

      tisha b av,and 17th tammuz, both commemorate times of sorrow, and are both fast days

  67. Dalet 4 – TAMMUZ

    Tammuz means: Hidden – giver of the vine – Hebrew root: burning
    Tammuz is also a Phoenician deity: Ezekiel 8:14
    The month of Tammuz begins the “tekufah” (season) of the summer.
    The three months of this second season, are Tammuz, Av and Elul

    The letter Dalet, the door, gate, or entrance is over this month. The month Tammuz is called the month of the “great sin.” This is because of the sin of the golden calf, which took place at the base (foot- foundation) of Mt. Sinai. This resulted in the shattering of the two sapphire tablets on which G-d wrote with His own finger.

    This day was the 17th of Tammuz, and begins a three week period which ends on that ill-famed day, the 9th of Av. This dark day commemorates the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 CE/AD. On this same day many many years later, the Spanish Jews were expelled from Spain, the date was the 9th of Av, 1492.

    This is also the month that the 12 spies sent by Moses, traveled through out the land of Israel and brought back a bad report to the people of Israel. By the way, we are told by our sages, they returned on the eve of the 9th of Av. Ten of the spies did not bring back a good report, fear had grip their hearts instead of trusting faith in the Word’s of their G-d. Only Joshua and Caleb had trusting faith to believe what G-d had spoken to them.

    The month of Tammuz is really a dark month for Israel, one filled with gross abominations in the sight of Almighty G-d. Yet this month, is the month of the “Door” because not all was lost for Israel. Joshua and Caleb, and all the children of Israel under 20 years of age would one day enter the Door to the Promise Land. However, it would take 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, before that “Door” would be open to them again. The next time it would be in Moab, the place called “seed of the father,” and thru a very odd “Door”- the Promise Seed, their rest in the Land would be secured. Will talk more about this Door later, but it was Joshua who would lead them in, and Caleb, the grafted in gentile who would go with him.
    Do you see the picture painted here by the Word?

    Tammuz – Mazal: Cancer ( The Crab)
    Cancer has a few meanings: one is “rest secured,” that is what G-d wanted for Israel from the very start. She was to have “rest secured” for her in the Land of Promise, Israel. The word sartan is understood as being composed of two words Hebrew words, “sar” and “tan” which would literally read: “remove the body.” What does this reveal? It reveals the soul of mankind is not hidden in a shell like the crab. And by the means of the power of “sight” given to mankind, things are revealed in order for him to see the reality of the Divine G-d, his own nature and “Lifeforce” of all life! That Lifeforce of Light, it is the Messiah Yeshua, the Light of the world!

    “Then Yeshua spoke again to them, saying, I am the Light of the world: he that follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the Light of Life.” John 8:14

    Tammuz Tribe: Reuben
    The name Reuben comes from the Hebrew root “to see – to see a son,” showing us a lack of the sight in the month of Tammuz. Reuben’s stone set in the breastplate of the high priest is the precious stone called: “odem,” the ruby. Ruby is so name because of its firey brilliant red color (odem means: red). Red is the most seductive of all colors, does this color imply the fall of man as some believe? In Hebrew odem – red, has the same spelling as the word Adam – man, as in the sin of the golden calf. Or maybe it teaches us about the ultimate blood red sacrifice, bring with it, the second coming of Messiah (Mashiach) on the day of Atonement. We will have “to see” just what “Reuben” will reveal to us in the future…

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    Tammuz in the Bible
    Tammuz 5 – Ezekiel 1:1
    Tammuz 9 – 2 Kings 25:3, Jeremiah 39:2, 52:6

    Other Events in Tammuz: 1 Chronicles 27:7

  68. IV. Tammuz 29 days June-July
    Chodesh Tammuz,” The Month of Tammuz
    “And He brought me to the entrance at the Gate of the House of the Lord which was at the north; and there were there women sitting, bewailing the Tammuz” (Yechezkel 8:14) (Ezek 8:14)
    (Some of the material in this section is adapted with permission, from Sefer HaTodaah of Rabbi Eliyahu Kitov)

    Name of the Month
    “Tammuz” is the Babylonian name of this month, as are all of the “official” names of the months in the Hebrew Calendar. In the Bible, however, the month is referred to as “the Fourth Month,” with reference to Nisan, the First Month. Tenth of the civil year.

    Biblical Significance of the Month
    As mentioned above, the name which “came up” from Babylon with the Jewish People was Tammuz. In this case, consideration of the use of the name in Yechezkel would make it appropriate to say that the name “Tammuz” brought down the Jewish People. The verse in Yechezkel cited above speaks of the worship of a Babylonian idol, known as “Tammuz.” And it seems most odd, at first glance, that this name would be chosen as the name of a Hebrew month.
    However, in the context of the month that we are dealing with, a month of tragedies which would lead to still greater tragedies, the appropriateness of the name becomes clear. The Prophet Yechezkel was being shown by Elohim the reasons for His great Anger against the Jewish People, namely, the various forms of idol-worship which had been adopted by them to replace the Divine Service. This behavior would result, if the Jewish People would not repent, in the Destruction of the Once-Holy, but now desecrated, Temple.
    Tammuz is a corruption of Dumuzi, the Accadian sun-god (the Adonis of the Greeks), the husband of the goddess Ishtar. In the Chaldean calendar there was a month set apart in honour of this god, the month of June to July, the beginning of the summer solstice. At this festival, which lasted six days, the worshippers, with loud lamentations, bewailed the funeral of the god, they sat “weeping for Tammuz” (Ezek. 8:14). The name, also borrowed from Chaldea, of one of the months of the Hebrew calendar.

    Earlier Biblical Significance
    We read in the Book of Yehoshua (Josh 10:11-14) of the Battle of Yehoshua and the People of Israel against the five kings of the Emorite Nation. In the Biblical account, we find mention of “great stones” thrown, as it were, by Elohim, upon the Emorites. This could refer to hail, as the verse itself mentions (Yehoshua 10:11).
    But in light of the great astronomical miracle detailed in the following verses (12-14), in which the sun and the moon are pictured as having not advanced, until the People of Israel had achieved complete victory, there is here the suggestion of a tremendous suspension of the paths in Heaven, perhaps caused by a contact of the Solar System with an intense meteor, or asteroid, shower.
    Whatever the case, according to Jewish tradition, this great miracle is supposed to have occurred on the third of Tammuz.

    Tammuz (29 days) Ezk 8-15
    1 Tammuz – 29 Tammuz
    This month is always “chaser,” or “diminished;” that is, it always contains only 29 days. Therefore, the Rosh Chodesh of the following month, Av, is just one day, the first of Av. Tenth month of civil year.
    This month, Tammuz, followed by Av, contain the three week period known as “Bein Ha-Metzarim,” “in the straits” of trouble between the Jewish People and Elohim. Many tragedies occurred in this month, which led to still greater tragedies in the next month. But our hope and belief is that ultimately, this time will become a time of joy and redemption for the Jewish People.
    1. New Moon. Rosh Chodesh Second Day
    The Blessing Moon
    This is a time for Magic.

    In the calendar system we have provided as an example, this moon may often be known as the the Blessing Moon in reference to the blessings of the sacred marriages of earth and sky, or dark and light, or the King and Queen of summer.
    However this moon is known to you, as the Hot Moon, the Strawberry Moon, or the Honey Moon, it will surely be known in some ways that call to mind the first honey dripping from wild hives, or the sweet ripeness of fruit orchards because this moon is the moon of ripening fullness.

    In many cultures and in many beliefs, this is seen as the time in the Wheel of the Year when the goddess in her mature aspect of Earth Mother, is wed to the god in his mature aspect of Summer King. Together they will reign over this peaceful season of growth and abundance.

    This is a time of maturing development when the greatest power of summer will be revealed on the Summer Solstice as the longest day of the year signifies light overcoming darkness.

    It is said that on the eve of the Summer Solstice, when the shortest night of the year yields to the longest day, the veil between the fairy world and this world is stretched thinnest and so springs the belief that all wishes are granted on midsummer.

    3. 9th year of King Ashurdan III, 763 BC. A Solar or Lunar eclipse. In ancient Assyria solar eclipses were observed and recorded, in one case as the chief event by which a year was distinquished in the lists of annual limmu officials. These records have been correlated with Assyrian king-lists giving the sequence and duration of reigns.
    14. Feast for abolition of a book of Sadducees and Bethusians, intended to subvert oral law and traditions.
    17. Fast of Shiva Asar B’Tammuz
    Fast Day Lamenting Breach of Jerusalem Walls – Fast begins at first morning light. Commemorates the breach of the walls of Jerusalem by the besieging ancient Romans (Ist century C.E.) and Titus. Start of 3 week period during which weddings and celebrations are forbidden.
    Fast in memory of tablets of law broken by Moses (Ex. 32:19).

    Period of Exile 3 weeks of Sorrow
    We want to see the exiles return to Elohim.
    Matt 23:

  69. Here is a picture of the bride after she is betrothed (Pentecost) to her husband while waiting for the marriage day. This excerpt is taken from the Jewish Wedding.

    The time of the return of the groom for the bride is Day of Trumpet in the 7th Biblical month. The bride got married to her husband on Passover and on Pentecost, she received her ketubah (the marriage contract to study thoroughly).

    The summer describes Rev 6-19:7 minus chapter 16 because 16 refers to the Day of the Lord. It may also refer to the Church period in Rev 1-5

    Brides House Summer
    She keeps herself busy by making her wedding gown (I Thess 5:23; Eph 5:25-27; Rev 19:7). This preparation meant making her own wedding gown, getting ready for her new role, transferring her allegiance from her father to her new husband, going from the familiar to the unfamiliar, from depending on family to depending upon her husband for everything, learning to love him, and setting her mind on how to please him.
    Bride’s maids. Ten Virgins (Matthew 25:1-13)
    Exodus Wilderness Walk. As the bride waits for the groom, she along with the marriage contract, (Ten Commandments and Levitical codes where they apply) goes through trials and tribulation. (Exodus wilderness 40 year walk) to make her dress and make it pure and holy. Tribulation, Daniel’s Seventieth Week, Jacob’s Trouble. Could this refer to the time of 2010 to 2017?
    During this “preparation period,” the bride is referred to as “consecrated,” or set apart (or sanctified). She always wore a veil, so it was apparent to others that she was engaged. This veil was symbolic of a pledge or a commitment.

  70. DJ, forgive me for calling you a liar and due to me sticking my foot in my mouth, I now have to say goodbye to one and all.
    There is a rule I have made for myself and that is when I go visit a church and I make a mistake by saying someting I should not have said (sticking my foot in my mouth), I never go back to that church again even if they ask me to come back. Due to a lot of miscommunication, I don’t go back to churches, organizations, or whatever because I don’t want to face the ridicule when I stick my foot in my mouth. I wonder if this is a part of my Asperger issues?
    I have asked God to forgive me and I have asked you all to forgive me and now I must leave.
    Audios, goodbye, auf-wiedersehen. Bye is what you say to friends.. But goodbye is the more formal greeting when you depart and never return.

    • jardalkal

      I do not permit ridicule either… 🙂

      esp if it hurts someone

    • Take care Jardalkal,
      I am sure I will run into you on another site, as you are quite prolific on the web.
      RE: foot in the mouth, cause may be lack of empathy for others views/ teachings that contradict your own. Can be a good thing in the times we are living in, so long as you are grounded in the truth of the Word of God, but if you are in error, your resistance will cause a lot of conflict.
      Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he will direct your path. (Prov. 3:5-6)

      • I am sure John appreciates your sage advice!

        • Al,
          Your religious spirit is showing again.
          That was a sincere goodbye to John. nothing more, nothing derogatory. seems like you cannot go a day without reading animosity into someone’s comments, and misreading them.
          I respect what John says, and know him from other sites, though he does not know me.
          The empathy comment was directed at his Asperger’s syndrome. A lack of this social empathy can be a good thing so long as one is grounded in Truth, but can be bad thing when one is pointing out error (rebuking in a Godly way) within your teachings. A simple statement of fact, not “sage advice”.
          Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the LIFE.

          • one more negative comment, and you are blocked. no more attack mode

            • Attack mode?????????????????????????????????
              Are you serious?
              I said goodbye to John in a civil manner.
              Al made a smart a** comment.
              Where is his reprimand?
              How about Dmcal’s for calling me and others an apostate, and false teacher?
              He judged our heart, but no reprimand, not even a slap on the wrist.
              when I first Got here, Al called me an idiot, lacking understanding,
              Again, no reprimand or correction.

              The nature of debate is opposition. You have stated you encourage debate. Instead of debate, you are promoting some sort of Hagellian dialectic here, to send people into a false synthesis rather than arriving at Truth.
              Jesus is the WAY, The TRUTH and the LIFE.
              If you are not leading people to the Truth, and to Jesus, then where exactly are you leading them to??

              Yo, DJ, I understand the “Mother role” Now, But it is not just motherly affection at work.
              No need to block me Marianne, I am leaving too, I am sure this will make Al Happy anyway.
              1 Corinthians 2:14-15. (I suggest you read, and comprehend these verses) “The Judge is at the door”

              • you accused Al of having a religious spirit. that is an attack

                I try to follow the conversations, but some i do miss because I do not sit here 24 hours a day…..

                so i apologize if someone said something to you and I did not catch it

                I will address any complaint with the party who offended the other

                I will talk to dmcal

    • jardalkal

      Is that you John Ashcraft?

      What is this posting by a different name? I really don’t care to know why.

      John – you’re leaving now? You left. Okay.

      I do appreciate the details on Tamuz. It supports the thesis – He turned a day (season) of sadness into JOY by His birth.

      My last comment on this very revealing thread –

      Dorothy said it best, “People come and go here so quickly here.” She said this in the land of Oz.

      Blessings to all.
      Hebrews 13:20-21.

  71. John–Stay in touch…you should have my e mail address! You have much insight to offer!!

    Shalom¡

  72. Here are my thoughts on the birth of Jesus. Pardon me if I don’t use ancient Hebrew texts and astronomy / astrology to do it. Instead I will use simple logic.
    We know that Jesus is fulfilling all the Hebrew festivals… in order. So if we look at what has been fulfilled and what is left, it only makes sense that if His death fulfilled Passover, His birth must have fulfilled the previous festival which would have been Tabernacles. He has two to go – Trumpets, then Atonement.
    So what year was He born? He dided in 31 AD – the only Passover with a blood moon eclipse starting in Jerusalem at moonrise. We know He became a rabbi at age 30 and preached for 3-1/2 years, so He died at age 33.5 at Passover.
    SO do the math and go back 33-1/2 years to that Feast of Tabernacles and you will have the correct date.
    Any birth date must end at 31 AD. Astronomy proves it.
    The rest should be simple.
    But go ahead and make it complicated.
    Also, just add 2000 years to get His return date.
    What? Too simple? Lets see.

    • I agree, it is as simple as that, but his Kingdom began with the ministry of John the Baptist, which pushes that 2000 years a bit earlier than 2031, – the final week for Israel, and we are at the time of the judgment of the church right now.
      30 Ad is when he was crucified, what are those astronomy proofs for 31Ad?

  73. please delete 2 (not exist video , the last one is ok

  74. DJ, I do not have the time to deal with your stupidity, hard headedness and stubborn self attitude. You remind me so much of the Pharaoh of the Exodus and you remind me so much of him that I call you king of Mariannes webpage. But remember what happened to the Pharaoh when he went into the Gulf of Aqaba.

    You barely understand what the Messianic Kingdom will be like. But it is more than your little tiny black boxed view of Tammuz which you so worship so much.
    If you really want to know what the Messianic Kingdom encompasses other than the four fasts, just go read the blessings of Deuteronomy 28, and read about the seven stages in Jer. 31:31-34; Rom 11 Olive Tree theology, Isa 11; Isa 65; Matthew 25:25-34; or e-mail me at Jardalkal and I will gladly give you my folder on Feast of Tabernaacles of 25 files and 300+ pages.

  75. To soldier4yeshua, from way above somewhere,
    Just so you know, I used to be a teacher, and when I taught I did so in a manner that I knew what I was talking about.
    So when I discuss science, astronomy, geology or photography all over this site, I do so as if I actually know what I’m talking about. But to many people who learn their subjects from YouTube videos, I may sound like I’m a blowhard making things up just to sound more correct.
    But I guarantee you when I say a You Tube idiot is a liar, they ARE lying.
    I have debunked hundreds of lies over the last 10 years and so far not one thing I’ve skepticated on has ever come to pass.
    Of course, people will continue to believe these things will eventually come to pass, but to date, nothing has.
    There were predictions on this site in 2012 that by spring of 2013 the chipping of the world would begin and the New World Order would be in place with Obama in charge. The US was to completely collapse and the dollar would disappear into a One world Currency. All these predictions came with a flurry of professionally produced YouTube videos. Several people here (some still around) swore up and down all these things were about to happen and that I was a complete idiot not to see them coming.
    And nothing has changed. Nibiru is still on the way. The New World Order is about to begin. Obama is about to abolish US elections and take over the world. Jade Helm is rounding up 80% of Americans right now and FEMA death camps are about to guillotine them shortly. US grocery stores will all close in 4 weeks and a comet (or an asteroid) will hit the earth in September.
    And I’m a fool for not foreseeing all of this?
    Well I guess we will see in a couple of months. Of course if I’m wrong, I’ll be dead either by starvation or tsunami, so I won’t have to listen you your “I told you so‘s” and that’s OK with me.
    But if my skepticism is valid then the tables will be turned and I will be vindicated. So I’ll get to say “I told you so” unless my head gets cut off in a FEMA death camp, that is.
    I can’t wait to see.🙂

    • jim

      I disagree with people who assign dates. they are looking for attention

      some things you mentioned will happened because they are in the bible…

      but when , is up to god

    • Jim, I don’t care about your qualifications whether you were a teacher, astronomer, or even the prez. of the USA, and you can say what you want to the youtube watchers & believers of every video (though most videos are very educational) but you have been on Marianne’s blog for a very long time and what I have seen from that time is that your comments are always contrary to what anyone writes, even though most comments are based on Scripture and past history. There is nothing anyone can learn from you because you always have a negative answer, never to the point. As for me I take notes of Marianne’s writings as well as the comments from others and research them and make notes accordingly .. but Sigh!! there has been nothing worthwhile in your comments that I could learn from dear teacher🙂

      The Torah / Bible is more than an universe of learning and one can never finish learning it even in his/her lifetime so the more we absorb the better it is for us to bring us HUMANS more closer to YHVH and that is what all believers should do “learn & share” with others – so in your future comments can you come up with something that I can learn from? I would highly appreciate that even though I learn from the best Hebrew teachers in America, Israel and around the world. Sincere Blessings!!

    • Hi Jim, something happened to me while I was just praying and Abba put in my heart to let go of all hurt – so I want to apologize for being so sensitive to your comment and then me calling you ‘smart alec’ – Today is Tisha B’Av a day of fasting and prayer, can’t keep such hurt and grudge in my heart. Truly sorry and also to All others who I might have hurt with my responses. The world is in a turmoil we can’t fight with each other rather at this time “We Must Unite” and we must be “Soldiers For Yahoshua” – I will be sincerely praying for everyone of you today … Blessings!!

      • soldier,
        Please don’t take any of my comments personally. I too am a soldier for God and my charge is to spread the truth. Whenever I find false prophets and bad prophecy I expose it by no uncertain terms. Especially when it comes from You Tube idiots who use bogus science to try to prove their points. So the You Tube idiots should take what I say personally, but viewers should not. Most people here know the bible far better than science and are often fooled by slick YouTube videos. I’m here to try to set the record straight but I find that most people here don’t have the time or energy to check the facts to see that I’m right, or they are afraid to do so because they really, really want the YouTube video to be true so they believe it with all their heart.
        I admit I have an aggressive writing style, but it does one important thing… It causes people to remember my words which is important since they won’t come to pass for a while, perhaps after I’m gone, but as long as they are remembered I have done my part for God.
        Hate me now and believe me later is my motto, so you can call me as many names as you like, it just means my work is being accomplished. Sticks and stones etc.
        So just give me some time and see if I’m right.
        Until then you can hate me all you want.
        Bless. I’ll be praying for you.

        • Hi Jim, thank for your response, I have to admit that I am a sensitive person and when someone hits me without reason, and/or when I’m right, I do get ticked off but all that I want to leave behind especially after what YHVH put in my heart yesterday (the Tisha B’Av) and I feel more at peace. I want to focus on the future ‘coz there are far more important things to focus on, pray and prepare for the future, the future that is not too faraway but right at our doorstep so as I mentioned before, I’m not going to waste my time to argue with anyone but spend more time meditating on prayer and praying for others particularly Israel and America even though I am not American, for through the Scriptures I can foresee what’s coming and it is darn ugly and disastrous even if you don’t take it seriously.

          Hate is a very strong word and can lead to great disasters particularly disaster of the soul so for your info I do not hate anyone I have learned to forgive through prayer. However, if you want to continue sledge-hammering people🙂 no one can hold you back from that its you choice. At some point in our lives we have to stop our ways and follow in the ways of the Savior Yahshua (Jesus) for no one will be able to enter His Kingdom with Hammers🙂 Loosen Up – SMILE!!

          Btw, thanks for your prayers – the best gifts to me are prayers.
          Be blessed!!

          • Soldier- Great response that we all need to hear!

            Shalom

            • Shalom & thank you Al, yes it did hit me real hard yesterday right in the middle of prayer that entering into His Kingdom is of the prime importance than all the petty things we occupy our minds with.
              YAH Bless you brother.

  76. The thing is Jim, you have to decide if you like hanging from the cross, or being the one using the hammer and nails!….A verbal martyr isnot exactly a rare animal!

  77. SkyWatchTV News 7/27/15: ISIS Apocalypse / Building of the 3rd Temple / Statue of Bahomet – the bisexual god (Satan) unveiled at Michigan .. etc.. Instead of repenting America is hastening the wrath.

  78. Heart wrenching – because of the sins of man creation is suffering and dying and man’s brutality towards earth’s creatures won’t stop .. If the plagues for sin have not already descended on us, then when will they? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWg3rpWYVmc

  79. All,

    Isa 8:12-13

    12 Say ye not, A conspiracy, concerning all whereof this people shall say, A conspiracy, neither fear ye their fear, nor be in dread thereof. 13 LORD of Hosts, him shall ye sanctify, and let him be your fear, and let him be your dread.

  80. CV,

    Amen.

    “The fear of the LORD is his treasure” (Isaiah 33:6).

    “Now the eye of the Lord is on those who fear Him—
    those who depend on His faithful love to deliver them from death and to keep them alive in famine. We wait for Yahweh; He is our help and shield.
    For our hearts rejoice in Him because we trust in His holy name.
    May Your faithful love rest on us, Yahweh, for we put our hope in You” (Psalm 33:18-22).

    “Then the righteous will shine like the sun in their Father’s kingdom. Anyone who has ears should listen!

    The kingdom of heaven is like treasure, buried in a field, that a man found and reburied. Then in his joy he goes and sells everything he has and buys that field” (Matthew 13:43-45, HCSB).

    “…For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Be ready for service and have your lamps lit” (Luke 12:33-35, HCSB).

    http://www.derekprince.org/Publisher/File.aspx?ID=1000035003

    “Behold, the Judge stands at the door” (James 5:9).

    Blessing to you!
    Hebrews 13:20-21.

  81. All- Is the USA insulated from judgement? Can America be safe while pursuing the most depraved policies, that most pagan nations won’t touch or even consider? As a nation, the USA is the enemy of Yah! The country is not satisfied with being profane and perverted! It rather pressures and threatens other nations that do not follow our abominable acts and depravity! It is one thing to break Yah’s law, but quite another to coerce others to do the same with threats and warnings! Yah bless those nations, that against all odds stand fast in the face of a tyrannical world power! Shortly, those living in the US, whose spirit is vexed with what America has become, will have some very hard decisions to make concerning staying or leaving. Just some food for thought.

    http://shoebat.com/2015/07/27/10000000-africans-tell-obama-take-your-gay-agenda-and-shove-it/

    Shalom

    • You are right on brother. Re. what the Africans say, well I can only say they are wide awake while most of America is still asleep. The other country the POTUS interfered with a couple of years ago was India and was told not to interfere in its affairs .. I couldn’t find the link to post but here’s another one re. his interference – http://israelisoldiersmother.blogspot.ca/2015/03/will-we-let-obama-choose-our-prime.html – It’s obvious now that the world abhors him.
      Shalom!

    • We got it coming.

      • Leatherneck- Unfortunately you are right! It is never easy or pleasant to write such things, but needful to understand.

        Shalom

    • Shalom Al, I thought of sharing this link with you https://israelinprophecy.wordpress.com/tag/obama/page/4/
      There’s also an interesting article on an African prophecy that was made on Obama I guess long before he was born. I’ll have time only during Shabbat to check it and and share with you.
      Blessings!

      • Shalom Brother, Thanks for sharing the information on India. I had not heard about that. His arrogance knows no boundaries. Looking forward to reading what you have to share on the prophecy!

        Have a blessed Shabbat

        • Shalom Al, I just found a little time to look for the link so here it is: Though this is not a prophecy from the Torah, yet it is an interesting piece of history connecting obAMALEK to the Nachash in Beresheet Ch.3:, Cham (HaM), Nimrod, the Anunnaki, the Egyptian pharoahs, the Merovingian dynasty, & more and finally to Kenya and America.
          http://israelinprophecy.wordpress.com/2013/02/08/obamas-terrible-secret/?blogsub=confirming#blog_subscription-3

          • Soldier-I will go over this and get back with you at the first of the week! Glad you are here!

            Shabbat Shalom brother

          • Shalom brother- I read the information you provided. From a scholastic viewpoint, nothing less than amazing, given all that we have seen and heard from this man Barak Hussein Obama! Takes a lot of the speculation and rumours out of the mix. I would advise anyone who is not sure of who BHO is, to read the article posted above by soldier4yeshua. It is researched well. Maybe not an easy read, but well worth the energy spent to understand point by point how the researchers come to their conclusion, that BHO is not a chance encounter….not a coincidence (which is not a valid concept or word in the Hebrew language)! But everyone is free to make up their own mind about all of this. After all, he was reelected after being in office for four years! Doesn’t say much for the intelligence or widom of the American voters!!!

            Shalom Brother

            • Shalom Al, and thanks bother for your response and understanding that I only post what I learn ,read and watch (ref.youtube and other educational videos) but surely not of my own understanding so how others view the info is totally up to them.
              Btw, I saved the link you had posted on Egypt somewhere above in one of your comments and relating to that, I have very interesting info linking Egypt to America. I will find another way of sending the link to you. Until then Shalom, be well, and be blessed.

              • Shalom Soldier- I honestly think it won’t be a problem sending the information on Egypt and America! I don’t think what happened the other day had anything to do with you or what you said. I honestly believe he thought he knew who wrote it and then found out it wasn’t! I also believe his reaction was directed more at who he thought wrote it, than what was actually written. I don’t know any of that for a fact…just what it seemed like as it unfolded. If you still feel uncomfortable sending it over HA my email is shupertal@yahoo.com.

                What I do believe happens when we discuss these things from a Hebraic viewpoint, in the open, that those who have no understanding other than what they have been taught in Christianity, hears information most have never heard before, which I believe is a good thing, whether they agree or not, or get angry! We can’t control all of that! Looking forward to hearing from you and what you have to say!

                Shalom my brother

                • Shalom Al, you are right about all you say, however, I’m not upset with anyone, it’s just that I don’t want a few here to be upset or get excited with what I post though I know others would like to read and get an understanding as there is too much happening nowadays and all these bits and pieces of puzzle are connecting together.
                  Thanks for the email add. I will try and send it out to you sometime tonight.
                  Blessings!!

            • speculation maybe…

  82. Ian Clayton – have anyone heard about him,

    how is his teaching ? biblical or not ?

    is he a new age teacher or not

  83. FYI,

    My thoughts.

    All I know is from his website and I would have to say he is selling himself. I see a lot of Ian Clayton and no Christ. That tells me volumes. I didn’t have to look but on his front page to tell he is NOT.

    Peace to all

    • no opinion…I am busy here 🙂

    • one friend’s opinion regarding to Ian Clayton

      The diagram is an interesting extension of the old Body/Souls/Spirit explanation that became popular in the 60’s/ 70’s.
      This inner to outer is the Bethel / Bill Johnson approach (Redding CA) which is dangerous if this effort is not WORD of God
      centered . God teaches and speak to us through His Word . . . and when we are not very familiar yet with the Word, and
      aren’t mentored to become familiar with the Word, it will be dangerous.
      There is no mention of the Word of God here, so it makes me wonder???

      if you are familiar with God’s word, go ahead do it.

  84. https://freedomarc.wordpress.com/2013/11/26/gateways-of-the-spirit/

    gateways of spirit ,

  85. His code name is Renegade (defined as “the lawless one” or “the Rebel”) given by the Secret Service.
    His code name is Nimrod (king who rules the pagan, rebellious Babylonians) given by the Council on Foreign Relations.
    Renegade was making a speech in the House on September 9, 2009 (09/09/09). Suddenly from among the seated Congressmen before Renegade came a cry, “You Lie”.
    The congressman was “compelled” to speak the truth but no one understood the message – because he speaks as the “Father of lies” (John 8:44).
    Nimrod gave another speech just 15 days later before the UN.
    He said, “The religious convictions that we hold in our hearts can forge new bonds among people, or they can tear us apart…. the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians are respected… No world order that elevates one nation or group of people over another will succeed… No balance of power among nations will hold… Our efforts to promote peace, however, cannot be limited to defeating violent extremists…we will strengthen our support for effective peacekeeping… the time has come to re-launch negotiations without preconditions that address the permanent status issues: security for Israelis and Palestinians, borders, refugees, and Jerusalem… And this leads me to the final pillar that must fortify our future: a global economy that advances opportunity for all people. Now, I’m not naïve.”
    Nimrod received the Noble Peace Prize on October 9, 2009 (Feast of Tabernacles) but he did nothing to deserve it. His diplomacy had not led to any peace treaty; no peace agreements were signed by Nimrod. He just stood there, “confirming peace with many” when accepting prize (“crown”) from the world.
    The first 5 seals are open and the 6th seal is opening.
    Jesus said “See, I am giving you warning beforehand” in that same chapter in Matthew.
    Please, get on the Armor of Light (Romans 13:12-14)
    “And do this, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep; for now our salvation is nearer than when we first believed. The night is far spent, the day is at hand. Therefore let us cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armor of light. Let us walk properly, as in the day, not in revelry and drunkenness, not in lewdness and lust, not in strife and envy. But put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no provision for the flesh, to fulfill its lusts” (NKJV).
    Make sure your Armor of God fits too!
    “Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places (Ephs 6:10-12, NKJV).
    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/armor-of-god-prayer/
    It is time to get ready – being a wise virgin (Proverbs 23:23).
    Do you have a testimony?
    Do you know the power when you proclaim, speak the Word of God?
    Do you know the power of His Blood?
    We overcome him even unto death (Rev 12:11).
    Blessings

    • Quite befitting. Even the name of Nimrod’s car is called “the beast”, He is by all means the son from the line of the Nachash (serpent/dragon – today we call them reptillians) Genesis 3: is the same mentioned in [1-John-3:12-We are not to resemble Cain, … “who was a child of the evil one” … and killed his own brother. And why did he kill him? Because his own actions were wicked and his brother’s actions righteous. ]
      This is the “Beast” nature right from the Garden of Eden – the evil destroying the good and so will it continue till the end … Yahshua’s words … As in the days of Noah, so will the end be…

      While many are afraid of the day of His coming, but I say “Come Yahshua, our Messiah, come soon” … Shalom!!

    • OK, so we get it – Obama is the antichrist. He got a prize, he did not bow in a church, he is a secret Muslim etc.
      So what next? He will serve out his current term, then what? Move to Chicago and go on the tour circuit with Bill and W? Most likely. It seems that he really doesn’t have to do much of anything in order to fit bible prophecy. I mean, you have the first 5 seals already opened with almost no one even noticing. Apparently, the term “biblical proportions” means “barely noticeable.”
      So is there anything else Obama needs to do or is he all done and out of the picture? Surely by the time he leaves office on Jan 20, 2017 he would have little time to accomplish anything major before a 2017 Second Coming, since by then we would be into the bowl judgements.
      Can you predict anything in advance that he must do in the coming year to prove you know what the heck you are talking about because these silly little actions and speeches and nicknames just aren’t shouting “FULFILLMENT” to me.
      Come on, help a doubter out…

      • jim

        Obama has no plans to leave office. he has violated very law since he has been in, and no one has stopped him yet. he has announced interest in a 3rd term.

        he has admitted to being a muslim several times, and most of his staff is muslim. there is nothing secret about this. he hates christians and mocks their faith.

        he will create a disaster , or use a natural one, to justify staying in office, because he has declared he is a good president and wants to stay.

  86. AMEN

  87. What?

    Someone posts a reference to Nimrod…da Pharaohs…& more finally to Kenya and America.

    So, I add some substance from 2009.

    Who’s afraid?

    I’ve taken on witches and voodoo queens doing their craft within churches and bible studies – thank you Lord. I’d rip a few more wolves in sheep’s clothing, but He has not brought me to my feet as He did once before. I wait upon Him.

    Afraid? See Psalm 27.

    This page is to help awaken the spiritually dead church (Sardis). Along with the Evangelical USA church (Laodicean).

    I’m in agreement with Peter on this matter, including the inspired comment regarding Paul’s letters.

    “But the Day of the Lord will come like a thief [to the church of Sardis and referrenced in 1st Thessalonians 5:2-4] on that day the heavens will pass away with a loud noise, the elements will burn and be dissolved, and the earth and the works on it will be disclosed.

    Since all these things are to be destroyed in this way, it is clear what sort of people you should be in holy conduct and godliness as you wait for and earnestly desire the coming of the day of God. The heavens will be on fire and be dissolved because of it, and the elements will melt with the heat.

    But based on His promise, we wait for the new heavens and a new earth, where righteousness will dwell.

    Therefore, dear friends, while you wait for these things, make every effort to be found at peace with Him without spot or blemish.

    Also, regard the patience of our Lord as an opportunity for salvation, just as our dear brother Paul has written to you according to the wisdom given to him. He speaks about these things in all his letters in which there are some matters that are hard to understand. The untaught and unstable twist them to their own destruction, as they also do with the rest of the Scriptures.

    Therefore, dear friends, since you know this in advance, be on your guard, so that you are not led away by the error of lawless people and fall from your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To Him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen” (2nd Peter 3:10-17, HCSB).

    Shalom!

    “The G-d of shalom brought up from the dead the great Shepherd of the sheep, our Lord Yeshua, by the blood of an eternal covenant. May that G-d equip you with every good thing you need to do his will; and may He do in us whatever pleases Him, through Yeshua the Messiah. To Him be the glory forever and ever. Amen” (Hebrews 13:20-21, CJB).

    Blessings
    Psalm 27

    • WOW!! how the mind strays, its truly amazing? DJ, really, you did not have to be so indirect with your response for I see hate in it.

      [ “Someone posts a reference to Nimrod…da Pharaohs…& more finally to Kenya and America” ]

      You knew exactly well that I posted that link specifically for Al. That remark is not just indirect but very sarcastic and that is not the way of the Savior.

      You read my links and responded to it .. and I supported you on it, by saying it was ‘befitting’ didn’t I?

      As for me saying that many are afraid of His coming …. Yes, I meant that for lots of people even my own family who I know are afraid. Also there are even preachers who bring more fright in believers by saying …. you don’t know what the day of judgement is going to be like.

      So why did you have to take it on yourself – this I call inviting strife and I don’t want any of it .. I got better things to do. My responses and links were for a like-minded brother, Al, .. I’m actually regretting I posted those links here I should have just sent them privately to Al by email.

      Please be at peace – that statement was in ALL Truth not directed to you and to those who are not afraid of the Great Day of His Coming but rather looking beyond to see Him coming in All His Glory and His Sovereign ruling on Earth for a 1000 years.

      Shalom!!

      • Dj wrote this page so he is linked to all comments on it.

        when the author gets a copy of the comment, they do not know initially who is talking to whom ( in the email), although when they click the link to the page, they should see who is talking

        he may have thought the comment was addressed to him, so he answered his opinion without looking to see it was for Al

        I get this all the time….usually I just let people talk, and do not interrupt….sometimes I might say something, but usually not

        people don’t know it, but I get about 7000 visitors a day here, so I am busy, and I am glad when people talk to each other, and do not need an answer from me.

        just continue on. your comments are as valuable as anyone else’s

    • First of all, these videos prove nothing other than the fact that You Tube idiots can be very clever and creative. I’ll give them that much.
      But they don’t predict anything Obama will actually do. Sure, he will make even more silly joke videos and will make many more speeches that can be twisted to sound nefarious, but if he is currently the true antichrist, where is the New World Order / One-World Government / One world Currency etc? What was his deadly wound? Where are the chips in the right hand? Where is he commanding to be called God or else die? Are you throwing out that part of the prophecy? Is Islam still supposed to conquer the world? They better get crakin’ – time is short.
      Marianne thinks Obama will stay in office, but to do what? And how will he pull off such a coup? Does he have his own Republican Guard? He doesn’t even have a Democrat Guard. If a new president is elected he will become Commander-in-Chief and will control the military, not Obama. The military is sworn to uphold the Constitution, not a man.
      But doesn’t he need to rule the New World Order? So remaining the US president is a step down in power, right? But wait, if there is a One-World Government, there won’t be a need for presidents and such, so the office won’t even exist, right?
      Or maybe the next 6 years of Obama will be virtually the same as the last 6 – dull with nothing significant happening. You haven’t shown me anything major you think he will do. Probably because several years ago “youz guyz” (generic) were predicting all sorts of things that never happened, so now “youz“ are gun shy about the topic.
      And just wait till Jade Helm, FEMA death camps and the September comet strike all fizzle out. Red faces everywhere. Even the man-in-the-moons‘ face will be red.
      So I guess we will be stuck with generalities from now on, at least for a few years until the 2017 Second Coming theory self-destructs. It will be interesting who the next antichrist will be and what the next astrologically perfect date will be.
      Anyone want to predict those now and beat the crowds?

      • one world order has already been announced. just people are asleep to it.

        deadly wound has not happened yet.

        whoever the AC is, will be revealed in the near future

        yes islam will increase

        something will happen soon where it will be used as an excuse to stay in office. he has already announced his desire to remain there

        he has a private army. called DHS, made up of illegal immigrants and foreign troops, and some loyal democrat followers , no christians allowed in it
        e
        i do not have a deadline.. only god knows….

        I still think you are a naysayer for the government

        • I hope the “revealing” of the antichrist is more noticeable than the announcement of the New World Order. Seems like only a few You Tube idiots and their followers know about it.
          Nothing short of force could keep any president in power. It is not constitutional and can’t simply be “declared” to make it happen.
          Your mythical DHS army is a joke. First of all, most illegal aliens are Christian Latinos. So are his democrat buddies, who are not fighters anyway and would be of no use to him. Any foreign fighters would be taken out by the US Navy / Marines before they got to shore.
          You seem to think that just any group of ragtag fighters could take over the United States. Hell, they couldn’t even take the biker gangs, urban gangs and white supremacists.
          Once again, you have a basic prophecy theory and you are trying to confirm it with YouTube videos that seem to fit and some lame impossible scenarios that you believe only because you can’t find anything more believable on YouTube.
          As for the government, I was in the Navy, then worked for the Navy Dept. in General Dynamics. I have V.A. health care – all free – and am on a VA pension. So I love our government, it is the best one on earth as far as I’m concerned. I see no indication that my government is trying to kill me, quite the opposite, I would be dead without it.
          If you prefer communism, socialism or a nice dictatorship then you should move elsewhere so the government won’t be able to kill you, as you believe. Try putting this blog up in China or Saudi Arabia and see how you are treated.
          You just don’t realize how lucky you are to live here and you don’t appreciate the very people who gave you your freedom to do what you do.
          And whether you believe it or not, thus government will continue to protect you and your family from those who really want to kill you, even though you may not deserve it.
          And that’s what makes our country great.

          • I am not against my country….I am opposed to those who wish to destroy it

            vets all over the country have been mistreated at the VA. so I am glad your treatment was better.

            DHS is not a myth. it is alive and active.

            the AC will be revealed when he declares himself god in the temple of god.

            • The temple of God on earth is the Christian church. Now what church on earth claims to be Christian but is really paganism in disguise? Who’s head of its church has claimed to be god on earth? That lifts up Mary as a god and cruicifies Christ afresh every day? Whose’s Christ is either a baby or a dead man on a cross? Which church dresses in scarlet, red and purple? What church on earth is guilty of the murders of millions over 1500 years? Which church forced the world in history to keep a false sabbath or be burned at the stake? Which church says heresy is punishable by death still?

              I give you three guesses if you need them.

              • the catholic church has been around for a long time.

                the abomination of desolation is a very specific event, and it has not happened yet

                although the church will be accountable for heresies

          • I saw these news articles and thought of you

            http://mrdemocratic.com/2015/08/obama-to-sign-exec-order-delaying-election/

            http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines/obama-to-cut-healthcare-benefits-for-active-duty-and-retired-military

            • Here are a few other stories this guy is covering:
              Hillary’s Big Surprise: Bill as VP candidate
              Woman Claims Bigfoot is Her Baby Daddy
              Huckabee Will Use Federal Troops to Stop Abortions
              You would think Hillary would know by now the elections are off.
              So if you are right, all the election coverage should stop any day now. Why waste millions on something that will never be?
              Trump should be all over this story on Thursday’s Republican debate.He will be furious. Should be really riveting TV.
              Or maybe Obama will wait until his last day in office to issue the order. Catch everyone by surprise so it’s too late to change it. Yeah, I think that’s what will probably happen. We won’t hear a word about it until the last minute. That way the story can seem true for much longer.
              So we should expect to hear nothing about it until Jan 19, 2017.
              Well, that won’t prove much😦

  88. New World Order will be announced on September 25, one world currency on October 20th. Agenda 21 laws will be mandatory for the globe starting September 25th. We should know by Sept. 25th who the AC is. No country will be immune from it.
    Pope Francis Will Speak At The United Nations on Sept 15
    He Address Climate Change
    Pope Francis Will Speak At This Summit Discussing “Global Governance”
    Push a One-
    First Time In UN History A Pope Has Addressed The UN Assembly
    World Government
    He will issue an ENCYCLICAL – The definition of an encyclical is – A letter from the Pope sent to all Roman Catholic Bishops throughout the world. Every Roman Catholic is EXPECTED to obey.
    Pope announces the New World Order in front of the annual gathering of world leaders on September 25th, 2015 at the United Nations just before the signing and implementation of the ‘Post-2015 Development Agenda’ that the Pope will order every Roman Catholic around the world to obey unconditionally – total obedience – including the acceptance of the Mark of the Beast when it is announced.
    Push a One-World Religion
    Push a One-World Currency (cashless).
    Fifth Event: Pope Francis will publically address US Congress on September 24th – 25th
    First Time in US History
    He Address Climate Change
    Push a New World Order (govt), Religion, and Currency (cashless).

    CNN and TV media sources use you tube idiots, Jim. We now know that Jim hates TV media because he calls them you tube idiots but yet he watches them 6-8 hours per day. Jim is addicted to the TV so that is his idol worship whiic he is prideful of. Jim, come out of her or die in your sins.

    • Hey John,
      Well finally someone has put his faith where his mouth is. I’ve copied your comments to my desktop so I can hold you to them.
      You are on the right track in that the Vatican will issue the mark of the beast, but you failed to say what it would be. Since you believe in a One world Currency, cashless society then are you a believer in the RFID chip in the right hand / forehead?
      If the Vatican pushes for a New World Order, who will the pope put in charge, Obama? Will Islam take over the world or will the Vatican?
      What is the beast that issues the mark – the Vatican? Or Obama?
      The rest I get.
      And don’t be hypocritical. If the mainstream news relies on You Tube idiots for their stories, then why don’t you believe them. You just reamed them a week ago and called them idiots, but now they are the same as You Tube idiots. I don’t get it.
      The real difference between mainstream news and YouTube is that mainstream media must verify their sources or face possible libel suits for printing lies. They also have many reporters to record current events. You Tube idiots must base their stories on mainstream media since they can’t afford hundreds of roving reporters going all around the world to collect the news, so in reality, YouTube is using mainstream media not the other way around.
      Just look at all the Nibiru reports. They all use NASA or major observatories to take their pictures, then they delete the astronomers notes and make up a Nibiru story to fit the photos.
      Will the You Tube idiots be covering the popes’ speeches? NO. They will watch it on the news or read the papers. Then they will twist what he says to fit their theories. Same with Obama.
      But at least you took a stand.
      Now we’ll see if you’re right.

      • Hey Jim, why don’t you since you are a smart aleck just google the information where I get it from instead of worshipping the TV 6-8 hours daily.

      • It is the earth beast that forms an image of the beast and forces the whole world to receive a mark not the sea beast.

        • The first beast has come and gone – the Holy Roman Empire which lasted 1260 years.
          The second beast is the Vatican, which will issue the mark thru its
          “image” the pope – the False Prophet.
          Did you know there are two additional beasts?

          • the first beast gets cast into lake of fire, so he, if identified correctly, is here now, and will be until the end

            • The first beast must last 1260 prophetic days or 1260 years. The only world empire to of this was the Holy Roman Empire.
              It is the second (and third) beast that is with us right now.
              So how do you correctly identify the beast in question?

          • Wrong. The dragon was the Roman Empire. Its son was the Roman Papacy. The father gave its son its seat, authority and power and the papacy ruled for 1260 years from 538 to 1798AD. As the Papacy was going down in the late 1700s another nation was slowly coming up, that nation was/is the United States of America. The earth beast is a nation that claims to be christian, it has lamb like horns. The horns represent two divisions of power, one horn is republicism and the other is Protestantism. But it speaks like a dragon. It speaks just like Rome of old. And will form an image of the beast that is an exact copy of the sea beast, that is Papalism and will force the whole world to accept a mark. How does it force the world? Through the bomb and economic sanctions. Every nation on earth that does not complie is either bombed out of existance or starved into submission. The earth beast opened its mouth and swallowed the waters of persecution that followed the woman as she escaped to the wilderness. The land of the US became a place of refugee to people fleeing persecution in the old world. Because of this the dragon is angry with the church, the last remnents of the original church who keep the commandments of God and have the faith and testimony of Jesus.

            Come on! You should know history.

            • The first beast is not the papacy but the Holy Roman Empire. It lasted 1260 years. The papacy is much older. That is history. The papacy (Vatican) is the second beast, not America. America was not founded as a religious nation, but the Vatican was. America will never turn into a catholic society. It is unconstitutional.,. Even a catholic president could never pull it off. It would violate the separation of church and state this country is founded upon. And we can barely hold Afghanistan, let alone conquer the world. In fact, no one can conquer the world. Tell me how economic sanctions against India, China and North Korea will make them agree to become catholics?
              So no matter how well it may fit your theory, you need to find something that is at least plausable.
              Otherwise you’ve got a long wait!

      • mainstream media reports what it is allowed to report…does not have to be true

        sandy hook was a hoax, but it was presented as truth, for example

        • Did you ever hear of the first amendment? We have free speech and free press in this country. The mainstream media is not hindered in what it reports, but occasionally it believes a liar as in the sandy hook case. And look at the scandal when the truth got out. These cases are rare. But look at how many false YouTube videos have been posted. Literally thousands of false reports of asteroids, comets (remember Elenin?) and rogue planets that were to have hit the earth over the last 20 years. And don’t get me started with the Mayan calendar crap.
          If the internet was held to the same standard as the New York Times there might not be an internet. I thing the government should place a $25 fine on fake videos and we would be out of debt in under a year.

          • mainstream media never admitted the hoax

            also, your idol, CNN is also on youtube

          • we USED to have free speech, and freedom of religion.

            that is gone.

            lawsuits for homophobia and islamophobia are very common,

            and parents cannot object when the school system decides to teach oral and anal sex to elementary school children

  89. The abomination of desolation to come is in the new temple – it looks like a statue of the “beast”.
    But in Maccabees Antiocus Epiphanes sacrificed a pig in the holy place in the temple at that time – he was a sort of “type of antichrist”.

    • The only problem with this idea is that the state of Israel has stated it will not build a new temple until the Messiah comes. They are preparing and gathering materials for services, but they have no plans to construct a building.
      Besides, aren’t Christians the new temple of God? So how would that work?
      Think about it a while.

      • The new temple is in the NT and OT – Ezekiel. It is where the man of sin resides ” calling himself God” . It is where the “sacrifices will be stopped.”
        And the “abomination ” will be set up.

        For Christians the new temple is themselves. But for the Jews they remain in the OT covenant . Whether they build before or after the man of sin appears is up to them , but which Messiah are they waiting on ?

        ” I have come to tell you the truth and you want to kill me but another shall come in my name and him you will believe.” Jesus .
        So the temple will be built but the antichrist will regard it as his.

        • just because the world will accept the AC, does not mean Israel will.

          AC is enemy of Israel.

          • True Israel will not accept the antichrist but the nation signs a 7 year covenant with the AC and he breaks it at the 3.5 year mark and shows his true colours . The nation of Israel does not accept Jesus but the remnant will accept Him when the veil is lifted. This will be mainly during the tribulation – Daniel’s 70th week .

          • Wrong. Revelation says the whole earth will accept it. That means EVERYONE. Except of course for a small number of God’s people. Bible does describe two groups of people during the time of the third angel’s message. John sees 1 group or has the mark, he then is told to turn around and he sees another group who have the seal of God. See Rev 14.

            • not “ALL”…..just those who are not written in the book of life

              All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast–all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world. rev 13:8

          • Israel(the literal land in the middle east): Did you know they have Sunday laws already?

        • Well, as I said, the head rabbi declared that the Jews will wait for the messiah to come and then the temple of Ezekiel will be built, to God’s specification. Only Jesus knows exactly where the final temple will be built. The Jews do not know. After all, the river of life must flow from the temple so they can’t put it on the “Temple Mount” which is too high to be the correct spot. Nor in some neighborhood outside of town.
          And so they wait. Prepare. That is all they can do until Messiah returns.
          Perhaps an imaginary temple will be built on YouTube. A virtual temple. Then maybe the antichrist is a hacker that enters the temple with a virus or a trojan horse.
          The question is, will we recognise it when it happens. Most people will have the mark of the beast before they even realize it, so perhaps the abomination may pass relatively unnoticed with Because they are not looking or they are looking for something completely different.
          After all, some here think it happened years ago when Obama failed to bow in a church. They are no longer looking for another abomination, so they will likely miss it.
          We will have to keep our eyes and ears open on this one.

          • The 3RD Temple will be on Mount Moriah – where the 2nd one was.

            I am sure God can do the river of Life – no problem to God.

            The mark of the Beast will be quite apparent – it will be a voluntary act of worship to continue in the economic system ie work buy and sell .

            Probably similar to bowing to Nebu’s statue or bowing to Moloch – it will be accepting the antichrist system – there is no way out if anyone takes the mark and worships the beast.
            Although there will be indirect coercion such as beheading there will not be
            forced coercion eg Daniel’s friends were not forced to bow down but were
            left to make the choice .

            • So who is going to build this temple? Modern Jews or God? The Jews can’t just hook up the city water supply to the temple and call it the river of life. And Mount Moriah is booked solid with modern buildings. The original site would have to be accurately located and leveled in preparation for the new temple.
              But it doesn’t matter since the Jews are waiting for Ezekiel to be resurrected at the Second Coming so he can build it himself. With a little help from God. By then Jesus will be back and He‘ll know what to do.

              • The Temple Mount Faithful seem intent on building the 3RD temple on top of the temple mount or base . Its also what masonry requires.

                The water that will flow from the temple is in the millennium as far as I am aware. This water will not be a manmade delivery but will come from God and is enough to desalinate the dead sea.

                Once the 3rd temple is built you will realise that the NT was correct since the antichrist will reside there and call himself God and stop the daily sacrifices. This is the abomination of desolation as spoken of by the prophet Daniel.

                • some call this the tribulation temple

                  I think there are actually underground springs that will open up with the millennium temple

                  • The Gihon spring fed the first 2 temples. Stone waterways have been discovered that raised the water high enough for the purpose, just south of the so-called temple mount.
                    Modern archaeology has disproved the temple mount as the former site. The mount was built for the Roman occupation during the battle of Jerusalem in 70AD. That is why it is still there while all of Jerusalem was left in rubble.
                    Amazing what you find out when you look into things.

      • revelation describes a temple of some sort

        1Then there was given me a measuring rod like a staff; and someone said, “Get up and measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it. 2″Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the holy city for forty-two months. Revelation 11: 1-2

        • John is told to measure all those people who worship at the altar of God but only the high priest does that, so there is little to measure. If the Temple is God’s people and the altar is wherever they pray, then perhaps the exercise is to measure God’s true church, perhaps in preparation to send them to a place of safety before the gentiles (king of the north) attack the King of the South and enter the Holy City to occupy it for the duration of the tribulation.
          Perhaps it is something that only John really understood. Although much of what he saw he probably did not understand, just like Daniel.
          We may not get it until it happens. I don’t think it confirms the Jews will build a third temple.
          Israel confirms that – that there won’t be one that is.

        • That someone is Ezekiel. If you read Ezekiel you know this to be true. Revelation is saying in this passage to go read and study Ezekiel.

          • But the Ezekiel temple is built after the Second Coming. Most likely by Jesus, not man. It won’t be built in time for the abomination.

  90. Jim,
    I found an article that has yourbelief written all over it. These paragraphs describe you perfectly.

    Scoffers a Sign of the Last days

    Lets turn to (2 Peter) Peter has something intriguing to say about the “last days”, and about God’s time calendar that’s being used. Peter says this: in (2 Peter 3:3) “Knowing this first that there shall come in the last days, scoffers, walking after their own lusts, their own desires, and they shall say where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers have fallen asleep (died) all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation”

    Then they (scoffers) shall say. We’ve heard about the promise of His coming. We’ve heard the rap on the Rapture. All things continue on as they were before, just like they always have and always will. Peter says hey! That is an indication that you are living in the last days. When people start to say ahh! we’ve heard all this before and they start scoffing. Right then that is a sign of the “Last Days”.

    Who are these scoffers?

    Well they certainly are not all unbelievers. Unbelievers don’t believe in Jesus any way. So why should they scoff? Some do, but for the most part they are completely disinterested. Unfortunately and another major prophetic sign of the “Last Days”, is the fact that these scoffers are mainly members of the Christian Church, professing Christians that have cooled off, become Laodicean – “Backslidden”, and are now complaining.

    Where is the signs of His coming? Where is He? We don’t believe He’s coming back at all. Maybe we have been conned. Maybe its time to get out of this Christian stuff any way and move on to something else. This is another major prophetic sign. The abandoning of the True Church. Jesus said that in the “Last Days” many shall cool off and abandon the True faith. That there would be a falling away of believers. ” Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils…” (1Tim:4:1)

    So since you know how to google then you can read the article from where this comes from but if ou do not know how to google then highlight one of the paragraphs above and place it into your search engine and read the article on our own.

    • John,
      I am a scoffer when it comes to false prophets. When people lie or use lies from YouTube to propagate false prophecy I will call them out.
      I believe Jesus will return within 16 years. So we are in the end times – they started in 1948. And I see fulfillment all the time in the news… just not your version of fulfillment. You wait for a New World Order, One-World Government, One world Currency, chip in the hand and an antichrist dictator ruling a muslim-controlled world. I don’t see any of that. To me it is just false prophecy. So I teach against it. Simple as that.
      You seem to believe your interpretation is rapidly coming to pass, based on YouTube videos and other unreliable sources. I already know how much these people like to lie… I’ve debunked dozens of them over the years. I’ve never found a single one to be truthful, especially when it comes to astronomical events. They simply don’t know what they’re talking about.
      You have stated your claims as to what is about to happen, based on YouTube. You have 7 weeks to prove your theory or have it fail. Your whole 2017 timetable depends on it. You have put your faith in You Tube idiots rather than Jesus. You ignore the signs He gave and believe a few teenagers with a video camera making slick videos for their college projects.
      In fact, most people here are doing the same thing. It is the blind leading the blind.
      You say I’m an unbeliever and I say you are a believer of lies.
      We’ll know in a couple of months who is correct.

      • you are wrong.

        you have this delusion that because you scoff and disbelieve something, that you have successfully debunked it.

        scoffing is not proof.

  91. Dear Scoffer jim,

    First of all, I praise you for not knowing how to count or knowing math but one of the rules in math is ti find a common denominator and since you never learned how to count, you never learned this rule.

    Nimber two here are some more false teachers and they are all godly men. Tom Kerry, Bill Salus, Evangelist Michael Parker, Jonathan Cahn. Mark Biltz, Jim Staley, Dr. Denis Otero, and the Bible and all its teachers.
    These are my teachers who told me to become a Berean of the Scriptures.

    You might want to look at some of their articles. I would start with Evangelist Michael Parker. He put out four wonderful ones last week.
    By the way I don’t listen to scoffers like you.

  92. I am a scoffer, first class.
    I scoff at Nibiru. So where the hell is it? Nowhere.
    I scoffed at the Big One hitting California on May 28th.Where was that?
    You said the New World Order was forming ten years ago. Where is it?
    So far, nothing I have scoffed at has happened, so therefore to date I’ve been correct.
    All of your negative comments about me are based on what you “are sure” will happen soon. You are making predictions and I am proclaiming a different interpretation of prophecy, which all of you scoff at. So there is no difference between me and anyone else here.
    John claims I can’t add because if I did, I would be able to calculate the next jubilee and I would believe in his 2017 Second Coming theory. But I gave him my calculation – 31AD + 2000 = 2031. And he SCOFFS

  93. I am a scoffer, first class.
    I scoff at Nibiru. So where the hell is it? Nowhere.
    I scoffed at the Big One hitting California on May 28th. Where was that?
    You said the New World Order was forming ten years ago. Where is it?
    So far, nothing I have scoffed at has happened, so therefore to date I’ve been correct.
    All of your negative comments about me are based on what you “are sure” will happen soon. You are making predictions and I am proclaiming a different interpretation of prophecy, which all of you scoff at. So there is no difference between me and anyone else here.
    John claims I can’t add because if I did, I would be able to calculate the next jubilee and I would believe in his 2017 Second Coming theory. But I gave him my calculation – 31AD + 2000 = 2031. And he SCOFFS at it.
    SO I hereby declare that ALL of you are scoffers, second class.
    You are either scoffers or hypocrites… your choice.

    • why are you so obsessed with nibiru?

      and where it is?

      I never promised it would come yesterday.

      just said it would be a logical explanation for the 6th seal.

      SOMETHING causes a GLOBAL earthquake…..

      so does it just happen, or is there a natural explanation?

      the NWO is here…the first Bush announced it…I heard him.

      the formation is an ongoing process

      we have been going down the rabbit hole ever since.

      america has not totally given up sovereignty yet…

      • I am not obsessed with Nibiru, you are. Do you know how many fake YouTube videos on Nibiru you have posted, plus three articles. Over and over again you post these links… all fakes. And all you need to do is learn a little science and you would stop posting them. You say it is a “logical” explanation for the sixth seal, but it is in fact illogical. It is a crazy idea that an entire solar system has to fly by the earth for a meteor to hit us. And a made-up one at that.
        As for the Bush New World Order, it is not the One-World Government you envision from the “Left Behind” scenario. Whenever a U.S. president refers to a “New World Order” he simply means a world without dictators and other repressive regimes including communism. That’s it. Not that the U,S, will absorb the entire world. Nor that the U.S. would join in on a One-World Government.
        We are fighting in the Middle East for that New World Order ideals. We toppled Saddam and are fighting Al Qada to bring the Middle east into the company of democracies, not to become part of our own nation.
        So yes, the New World Order is an ongoing process. And what we fail to accomplish Jesus will complete. The only One-World Government will be run by Jesus. No one else could ever accomplish it.
        Not even Obama.

        • the videos are ok… you just reject them.

          the current NWO is not a positive thing…it is designed to destroy Israel to fulfill Zech 14

          • The YouTube videos are false. Their science is bogus + lies. That is a fact, not my opinion. Ask any real scientist and you will get the same answer.
            Secondly, there is no current New World Order. It is a myth. But as I said, it is not the same New World Order Bush and other politicians speak of.
            The New World Order you talk about is a myth based on a misinterpretation of scripture. The idea became popular when the Left Behind books/movie came out and now most Christians expect it to happen, so the YouTube conspiracy theorists make up all sorts of stories to feed the need.
            Jack Van Impe has been saying the New World Order will be here very soon for 40 years or more. He listed 7 different organizations who were supposed to be in charge of it including the Freemasons and the Illuminati. So far none of these have made a move toward world unification. Actually I don’t think any of them even want to see the world united. There is more money to be made with separate nations and separate currencies.
            Also, if there was one leader of a united world, there would be no conflict between nations, The antichrist would have to protect every former nation equally. So the whole idea of a united world is ridiculous. You can’t have a unified world and WW3 with “nation against nation, kingdom against kingdom.” That prophecy actually implies that the world will not be united.
            So I guess you may have to wait another 40 years before you give up on the idea.

            • the AC is not here to unite the world in peace.

              he will be on the attack…..acc to Daniel

              NWO already exists, and is making progress….my toyota is not in scripture either

              maybe youtube is right and you are bogus 🙂

              peace jim

              • Where does this AC unites the world in peace come from?

                • bible seems to indicate a eastern or middle eastern origin…. but this is my interpretation.

                  there are persons now who are not that, and are wicked enough to be the AC

                  • But is it biblical?

                  • “yes

                    there is scripture to back this up

                    in one place he is called the Assyrian”

                    Aren’t you confusing Bible with interpretation?

                    Anyway where does it say “the Assyrian”?

                    • Mic 5:5
                      And this man shall be the peace, when the Assyrian shall come into our land: and when he shall tread in our palaces, then shall we raise against him seven shepherds, and eight principal men.
                      Tools specific to Mic 5:6
                      Mic 5:6
                      And they shall waste the land of Assyria with the sword, and the land of Nimrod in the entrances thereof: thus shall he deliver us from the Assyrian, when he cometh into our land, and when he treadeth within our borders.

                      the assyrian empire was from 1392–1056 BC

                      Micah timeline was 737–696 BC

                      so Micah lived AFTER the assyrian empire…

                      he was predicting a future leader who was assyrian by background

                      He was a contemporary of the prophets Isaiah, Amos and Hosea

                      they also mentioned the assyrian

                      there are always assyrian as the arch enemy of Israel…..so they existed after their empire was over…but not as a power.

                  • That happened back there. Not future.

                  • The assyrians conquered the northern kingdom of Israel in 723BC and they were all taken to Assyria.

                • According to Jack Van Impe and many others, the antichrist comes in on a 7 year peace plan for Israel. He negotiates an “impossible” treaty and is so loved the whole world wants him to be their leader. There is peace for 3-1/2 years and then he initiates the mark – the chip – and requires worship or death. He adds the rapture at the beginning as well.
                  This is the gist of the “Left Behind” scenario which has many variations at this point, so you can take your pick on the model you like. I don’t believe in any of it.
                  As for the Assyrians, while there was prophecy about the ancient Assyrians, the modern day “Assyrians“ are the Germans. They didn’t die off, they migrated to Europe and this includes the 10 lost tribes which can be traced to many European nations of today.
                  So you need to plug Germany into these end time prophecies. And guess who will start WW3? The same nation that started 1 & 2. History, as well as prophecy, repeats itself.
                  Soon the Man of fierce countenance will come to power in Germany and will head the European Union. He will give power to the False Prophet (the pope) and eventually attack the middle east like a whirlwind (blitzkrieg) and will surround the pleasant land and take over Jerusalem as their headquarters – the time of the gentiles.
                  You don’t need a dictator to take over the entire planet to fulfil the prophecy.
                  And you won’t get one.

                  • First invented by Jesuit priest Francisco Revibera(sic), adopted by Protestants first late 1800s.

                    Sorry I just don’t believe this interpretation. Thanks but I will stick to historism used by the original reformers who all pointed their fingers at Rome and said there is Antichrist.

  94. Sorry about the glitch above. I didn’t mean to send it unfinished.🙂

  95. David
    Islamic Shops in Israel are losed on Friday’s. Jewish Shops close on Shabbat, Christian Shops are closed on Sundays.
    During the 2 year tribulation period, I suspect that if you do not obey the laws of the Antichrist such as being closed on Fridays or Sundays, then you will die.

    Also folks, Daniel’s 70th Week is for Israel because the other 69 weeks were for Israel. Prophecywatchers.com

    However, if you believe that Daniel’s 70th week is for the globe, then show me in the scriptures where the other 69 weeks are for the globe.

    Scoffing mocking Jim, how is your readings coming from “Prophecies of the end times articles. lease comment to me on his articles. Does he teach the truth or does he lie?

    • 69 weeks involved the then known world and Israel. What was ordained almost 500 years during Israel’s time in Babylon to the death of Christ.

      Why do you write it only involved Israel?

      Also, I suspect folks like me will be a thorn in the side of this Old Knob’s world system until G-d the Father takes us out of the way of his wrath.

    • The 70 weeks of Daniel were finished in 34 AD. There is no part of it that was not accomplished.
      God gave the Jews 490 years to accomplish certain things, some of which they did, but they failed the last part – to accept the New Covenant of Jesus Christ. So at the end of this time, God’s church switched from Judaism to Christianity. (Rev12) and the beast kingdoms of Revelation became Christian rather than Jewish.
      But the 490 years were set by God – like the 40 years to wander in the desert or the 70 years of Babylonian captivity. No extensions. No gaps.
      They tried, they failed. It‘s over. Reliving the last 7 years over is not true prophecy. It made a cool movie, but that’s as far as it goes.
      You should never get your prophecy from a novelist.

      • I would think Jacob’s trouble, 3.5 years, 42 months also described in REvelation, is a separate event and time from the “last week” of daniel then.

        week = 7 years, not 3.5

      • The final week of Daniel is the 7 year tribulation and at some point the ‘veil”
        over the Jews understanding is lifted and the remnant accepts Jesus as their Messiah – looking on the one they had pierced – renting their garments etc.

        So we are still in the times of the Gentiles.

        As Paul said “God is by no means finished with the Jews …… for He is able to graft them back onto the vine ……. so dont be arrogant ……for you too can be cut off

        • do not agree exactly

          daniel said the time of trouble is a time, times, and half a time, which to me sounds like 3.5 ears

          so if there is still a last week, 7 years, the actual tribulation is only half of it, 3.5 years

          also note that revelation 12 indicates 42 months, not 7 years

          • I agree – the final week is the last 7 years and the Antichrist unleashes his fury half way through – but to think that the first 3.5 years of the 7 years
            will have no tribulation or trouble would be nice but cant see the first 3.5 years as being peaceful especially if the AC is at large subduing all resistance.

            The last 3.5 years is the most evil period in the earth’s history so if you know history then we should be concerned but this still leaves plenty of room for incredible evil in the 1st 3.5 years.

            • so the first 3.5 years is a preview

              • I am just guessing but I think the Mark of the Beast will be demanded for all who want to work buy and sell at the 3.5 year mark – but it could be at the start of the seven years . It will involve an act of voluntary worship to the AC – probably to get clearance for your already issued mark or number.

                The devil likes to get people used to something then use removal of it to blackmail.
                So (just my personal opinion) – we will all get a buy and sell transaction number for all services , wages , buy sell etc which most will take – including me – BUT – then later along the line the AC appears and he will demand an act of worship and submission to get HIS mark – probably a visible addition to your transaction code – on the hand or forehead with a chip.
                If you dont have this number you will be unable to remain in the economy
                and will be hunted down for say elimination or Fema “retraining”.

                This is the mark that no Christian should ever take – if you do there is no way back – it cant be directly enforced but will be a voluntary act of worship.

        • To disillusional Charles Allen, only Christians who do not do their homework but rely on manmade traditions believe that there is a 7 year tribulation. Plus Christians follow Mithraism so whatever the Catholic Church began, they follow it to the letter of the law of manmade traditions such as Replacement theology, dispensationalism, Christianity, Islam, the third Passover of John’s Book, pre-trib rapture, 7 year tribulation, immenency of Christ which are all manmade traditions and condoned by Colossians 2:8.
          Christianity began in 321 AD when the Sabbath was outlawed and changed to Sunday Worship only. Easter and Christmas was adopted. So you “Ra” worshippers are actually practicing Idol worship because you continuously break the first four commandments.

          • Well put Jardolkol. It will be lost on this crowd though.

          • I’ve been saying that the Catholic church is the whore of Babylon all along but most people think Babylon is Islam simply because its ruins are located in an Islamic country.
            As you say, the Catholic church and its protestant daughter churches are still full of pagan practices – Babylon – especially Sunday worship – the mark of the beast. So 99% of modern Christianity will be destroyed and replaced with the church of Jesus, whatever that will be, but probably close to that of the church at Philadelphia from Rev3. There will never be a One world Currency or a chip in the hand or forehead. There won’t be an antichrist in charge of the whole world.
            So, no New World Order either.😦

  96. Leatherneck, the old testament does not center around America but centers around Israel and the people of Israel such as the 12 tribes.

    Israel became later in history known as Palestine and then in 1948 we have New Israel so when you refer to old Israel, refer to them as the 12 tribes plus the foreigners and strangers (tribe 13) or as the “exodus Israel”. When referring to present day Israel, refer it to what ever means you can as in “today’s Israel.”

  97. Jim, Who is going to build the third temple. Follow the money trail. Follow the backers of WW 1, WW2, and WW3 in the Middle East between Israel and Islam and you will have your answer. You said all roads lead to the pope so follow the pope. Pause it aroud 11:00-11:45 for who causes WW3. Pause every board frame and copy the notes from his teaching like I do with Jim Staley teachings. Follow these backers below who ushers in the NWO.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDOO0rTP40s Jesuits

    Then after you pause and copy the notes, then paste them to Judge at the door when necessary like I do with all my information to this posting.

    • So you think the Vatican will build a Jewish temple? Why not use the Mormon temple which was built for the Second Coming?
      Sorry, the Vatican might build a cathedral on the temple mount. But not a temple for the Jews. They still believe Jews and Protestants will burn in hell.
      And do you really think they will get permission from the Palestinians to build it on the temple mount, then hire contractors etc and get the thing built in time for the Second Coming? Even less time for the abomination.
      So when do you predict the construction will begin exactly?

      • Jim, according to a book I read on end times, one of the suggestions was that the Vatican would build the Temple. I don’t know for sure but if you ask the internet the quetion of who will back up the finances for building the temple, that the Vatican will for sure front the money the most.

        The Jerusalem Temple Mount will continue to become the world’s hottest location & focul point in the news & world events of these End Times. It is sacred to the 3 religions who desire the legal rights to the MOUNT: Judaism, Islam and the Roman Catholic church. [Zech 12:1-3]. Heisner.com.

        • I read 20 years ago that the Catholic church was going to build a church on the temple mount if it could be declared an International Peace Zone. Somehow I don’t think the Muslims will ever give it up. And certainly never for a Jewish temple.
          Obama only has 2 years to convince them of this.

  98. So there is no end to the world – everything just keeps singing along – Jesus stays in heaven – the devil and the antichrist retire – the Jews just
    forget about all things and the temple – there is no WW3 or armageddon
    No tribulation as mentioned by Jesus – no end to anything
    I dont know why I am wasting my time to reply

  99. To one and all. There is an end to the world and it is in 1000 years. The new Heaven and new Earth in 3015 in September is a new beginning and according to the 2nd Annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles is also called the eighth Day or a new beginning of a live long marriage to go into eternity.
    There will be a 3rd Physical Temple built but it could be by Christ, by the Antichrist, or by the Pope and Jesuits. It is a mystery as to how the 350 prophecies of the Day of the Lord will be fulfilled and by mystery means that we do not know how they will be fulfilled until after it happens and we can work back to see where it started. So all we do is watch, wait it out, and see it happen if we are alive.
    There is a WW3 and it will be in the Middle East between today’s Israel and Islam and i will spread from there to the rest of the globe between Islam and all other countries.
    Armageddon will occur but it will occur in September-October in the end of the year of Jubilee and that can be either in October of 2016 or 2017.
    But the ruling factor is the Jubilee year because the 50th Jubilee has to line up with the 70th and 120th Jubilee.
    According to Evangelist Michael Parker, Jonathan Cahn, Mark Biltz, Torahcalendar.com and others, the year of 2015-2017 is the year where those three Jubilees line up.
    There is a Great Tribulation but 90% of it occurs in and around the Bible Lands.
    We can guess to as to how it all will be fulfilled out but it is just an guessing game.
    I would suggest to not say how it will happen in what sequence it will occur because there is no sequence.
    Some can say that using the theory to 7 years that there will be 7 years that the seals will be poured out, then 7 years for the trumpet judgments and then 7 years for the bowl judgments which is a long time and not a short time. I have come across 4 different ways for just one 7 year period and I will just list 3 of those.
    1) 3.5 years: seals + 1/2 Trumpet Judgments; last 3.5 years Rest of Trmpet judgments, bowls, and finally Armageddon.
    2) 7 years of just Trumpet judgments and then the bowl judgments in the last year of the 7th year.
    3) The trumpet and bowl judgments and seals are spead out over the 3.5 years, which means to me that they are stacked. If that is the case, then the seals will occur in the first year, the trumpets in the second year and the bowl judgments in the 3rd year or we can see 1) or 2) in that time frame.

    As to the rapture/resurrection it will occur near Armageddon which is post trib, and there is a mid trib view that still is in play. Then there is the Pre-wrath post-trib view. Matthew 24:31 is the post trib view but it could also be pre-wrath post trib if Armageddon is the wrath of God. Some teach the Bowl judgments and Armageddon are the wrath of God, and still others teach that the Trumpet Judgments, Bowl Judgments and Armageddon is the Wrath of God.
    According to a list of scriptures put out by one of the commentaries, the wrath of God is Rev 6:17-18; Rev 14:20ff, 15, 16 and 19 which is the Armageddon passages.

    Now to a confirmation dream I just had for September 2015. For me it is a watch and see thing. Will it happen as to what is being said on the internet, I do not know so I just watch and see. But since I am an Aspie, I make a list and check it twice to see if it is naughty or nice.

    According to the Feast of the Lord model in Leviticus 23, the trumpet Judgments should start on the Day of Trumpet but some people say it will start on Feast of First Fruits in March (26th) in 2016. Time will tell for the meteorite storm.
    Asteroids. Some say it will be in September of 2015 and others say August 24th of 2016. Time will tell for that.
    Both of these views are for me on watch and see mode because they all land on days I watch to add to my Feast Dates file. One is on Day 4, one is on Day of Atonement, one is on day of Trumpet, and one is on Feast of First Fruits.
    So the pattern is based on Gen 1:14 and Leviticus 23.

    The Bible just keeps repeating 42 months known as the Great Tribulation so we can only go with that. That is much shortened down and fits Matthew 24 where these days are shortened fits and there are 4 views to this phrase for “These days are shortened.”

  100. http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/46395/apocalyptic-weather-around-world-sign-of-fulfillment-biblical-prophecy-jewish-world/#KVrBex0OSuz1Xcfs.97

    Great article to read. I wonder how I can turn this into a list?

  101. The Final Jubilee Starts in 2015!
    The final Jubilee will begin on the Day of Atonement in 2015. (September 23, 2015 -Yom Kippur). There will have been 40 complete Jubilee cycles following Christ’s death. Isn’t that interesting? There are so many 40’s in the Bible and 40 is a significant number to God. The 40 Jubilees after Christ’s death bring us to the end of probationary time. After 2015 there will be no more opportunities for people to repent and receive eternal life.
    “Seventy ‘sevens’ are decreed for your people” is a dual prophecy. Daniel 9:24. It has two fulfillments:
    First, the 70 “sevens” are 70 sabbatical cycles. They are 490 years, pointing to the first coming of Jesus as our Savior from sin.
    Second, the 70 “sevens” are 70 Jubilee cycles. They are 3,430 years, pointing to the second coming of Jesus when His people will be permanently freed from sin.

  102. Jim. I don’t know. You may or will find that answer at Evangelsit Michael Parker’s article at Propheciesoftheendtimes.com.
    I also know that this Jubilee is also the 50th and 120th Jubilee.

    About the hill the temple is on. There is an old temlple just south of temple mount that is halfway down the slope that was fed by the Gihon springs or some water source tht the temple could be built on. That is what my pastor Dr. Denis Otero said. He is a good walking encyclopedia of the OT.

    • More than likely, the old temple was the 2nd temple where Jesus taught. It seems to be in just the right spot.

    • Here is something interesting.

      “The 7th Shemitah year ends. This marks the 7th cycle of 7 years for the Shemitah. This also starts off the Jubilee Year for 2015-2016 in Israel…Right about the time the Shemitah ends in the United States, the Feast of Trumpets begins in Israel.”

      What?

      Almighty God has the US on a Shemitah cycle, ending September (about the same time) as Feast of Trumpets in Israel?

      http://propheciesoftheendtimes.com/?p=56900

      Prophetic confusion.

      Jubilee 2015-2016?

      US is Shemitah (Shemittah) and Israel is non-Shemitah?

      – A Shemittah cycle begins the day after Yom Kippur per Leviticus 25:8-10.

      “‘And you shall count seven sabbaths of years for yourself, seven times seven years; and the time of the seven sabbaths of years shall be to you forty-nine years. Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement [Yom Kippur] you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land. And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family'” (Leviticus 25: 8-10, NKJV).

      Why is 1967 significant and 1966 is not significant?

      The liberation of Jerusalem in June 1967, marked the first time in thousands of years that the entire city of Jerusalem, the holiest city in Judaism, was under Jewish sovereignty. The destruction of Jerusalem was a watershed event in Jewish history that began thousands of years of mourning for Jerusalem, so, it follows, that the reunification of Jerusalem should be a joyous celebration that begins the process of reversing thousands of years of destruction and exile. Jerusalem is central to the Jewish tradition. Jews face in the direction of Jerusalem and all of the prayer services are filled with references to Jerusalem.

      Jubilee would begin after Yom Kippur Leviticus).

      Oct 14, 1967 – (Yom Kipper) Hebrew calendar, 5728 – Jerusalem was under the sovereignty of Israel.

      Hebrew year 5728 (1967) is a Jubilee.

      The next Jubilee begins (50th year) after Yom Kippur, September 30, 2017 or 10th of Tishrei, 2778.

      America (USA) is not connected to or with the text of Leviticus 25:8-10. Israel is connected to this Scripture.

      In my opinion – for anyone to pervert Scriptures, bending them to fit a Kabbala event like 9/11, 2001 is wrong. It is more than wrong – it is discussing.

      Blessings
      Psalm 64

    • Here is something interesting.

      “The 7th Shemitah year ends. This marks the 7th cycle of 7 years for the Shemitah. This also starts off the Jubilee Year for 2015-2016 in Israel…Right about the time the Shemitah ends in the United States, the Feast of Trumpets begins in Israel.”

      What?

      Almighty God has the US on a Shemitah cycle, ending September (about the same time) as Feast of Trumpets in Israel?

      http://propheciesoftheendtimes.com/?p=56900

      Prophetic confusion.

      Jubilee 2015-2016?

      US is Shemitah (Shemittah) and Israel is non-Shemitah?

      – A Shemittah cycle begins the day after Yom Kippur per Leviticus 25:8-10.

      “‘And you shall count seven sabbaths of years for yourself, seven times seven years; and the time of the seven sabbaths of years shall be to you forty-nine years. Then you shall cause the trumpet of the Jubilee to sound on the tenth day of the seventh month; on the Day of Atonement [Yom Kippur] you shall make the trumpet to sound throughout all your land. And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout all the land to all its inhabitants. It shall be a Jubilee for you; and each of you shall return to his possession, and each of you shall return to his family'” (Leviticus 25: 8-10, NKJV).

      Why is 1967 significant and 1966 is not significant?

      The liberation of Jerusalem in June 1967, marked the first time in thousands of years that the entire city of Jerusalem, the holiest city in Judaism, was under Jewish sovereignty. The destruction of Jerusalem was a watershed event in Jewish history that began thousands of years of mourning for Jerusalem, so, it follows, that the reunification of Jerusalem should be a joyous celebration that begins the process of reversing thousands of years of destruction and exile. Jerusalem is central to the Jewish tradition. Jews face in the direction of Jerusalem and all of the prayer services are filled with references to Jerusalem.

      Jubilee would begin after Yom Kippur Leviticus).

      Oct 14, 1967 – (Yom Kipper) Hebrew calendar, 5728 – Jerusalem was under the sovereignty of Israel.

      Hebrew year 5728 (1967) is a Jubilee.

      The next Jubilee begins (50th year) after Yom Kippur, September 30, 2017 or 10th of Tishrei, 2778.

      America (USA) is not connected to or with the text of Leviticus 25:8-10. Israel is connected to this Scripture.

      In my opinion – for anyone to pervert Scriptures, bending them to fit a Kabbala event like 9/11, 2001 is wrong. It is more than wrong – it is discussing.

      Blessings
      Psalm 64

      • Hey guys,
        I’m having trouble here with the start of the next jubilee year. Is it 2015 or 2016 or 2017?

        • Some say it is 2015-2016, others say 2016-2017.
          So to save face, I do 2015-2017.

          • And soon they will be claiming 2018, 2019 and 2020.
            It isn’t surprising that when people already have a date picked out, like 2015 – 7 years after Obama got the peace prize – they end up calculating the jubilee year for exactly the year they need it.
            My point is, the true date can’t really be calculated, so it is really a non-factor in computing any dates.
            Plus, if Jesus must return on a jubilee year he must also have risen on one. In that case you must calculate 40 jubilees from 31 AD and see where that brings you. This is the only logical choice. To think the resurrection was not on a jubilee year would be sacrilege, He must leave and return on a jubilee. If you have any question on how to calculate the jubilee cycle, forget going back 4000 years and trying to count thru countless generations. Let the year Christ ascended into heaven mark the true jubilee year. Then count up from there.
            Or is that too logical for you?

            • Then you cannot count on 2031 either because it is not even a year of Jubilee. It is a bogus year that you came up with. Sorry Jim, I believe the Bible in regards to Gen 1:14, Lev. 23:24ff. Lev. 25 (Year of Jubilee); and Isa 61:1-2 over your bogus year which does not even line up with 20, 40, 50, 70, 80, 100 years back to events in Israel life since the Battle of Jerusalem in 1917.
              1917+125 generation span of man = 2031. Show me in the Bible where 125 years is mentioned.

              • How do you know it isn’t? You can’t decide between 2015,16 or 17 so you really don’t know. And if Jesus did not leave on a jubilee, why would he have to come back on one? You have no biblical proof of your theory, you are just assuming. So I can assume he left on a jubilee and will return on one, but the whole jubilee idea doesn’t move me to require it. If it wasn’t important for Him to leave on a jubilee year it won’t be required for him to return on one.
                Again, simple logic, which you just don’t get.
                As for a generation, the term generation NEVER refers to a time frame. Look up the definition. Tell me how long is the baby boom generation, or say the Pepsi generation? Can you figure out those time frames? After all, we are in those generations so give me a number.
                Well, of course you can’t, these “generations” simply refer to a group of people and not a length of time.
                And Jesus didn’t say He would return a generation after the fig tree, He said that the fig tree generation would still be alive when he returns. We are that generation and as long as one of us is still alive when he returns His words will be fulfilled.
                And all the other israel-related events have no significance on the Second Coming. They may seem like they are related but they are not. You will soon find that out. In a couple months you will be looking for a new scenario to hope for.
                Time will rip you a new one. 🙂

                • Dear Smart Alec Jim,
                  Jesus died in the middle of 2 Jubilee years in the middle of two Sabbatical years.
                  Research it out for yourself if you even know how to research.

                  I have no biblical proof.
                  Lev, 23:24ff Lev 23:23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
                  Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
                  Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
                  Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
                  Mar 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
                  Mar 13:27 And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
                  Luk 21:27 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
                  Luk 21:28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
                  1Co 15:51 Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
                  1Co 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
                  1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
                  1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
                  1Th 5:1 But of the times and the seasons (Lev 23), brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
                  1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
                  1Th 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
                  International Day of Peace Sept 21.
                  Rev 6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
                  Rev 6:13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
                  Rev 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
                  Rev 6:15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
                  Rev 6:16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
                  Rev 6:17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

                  Gen 1:14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons (Lev. 23), and for days, and years (Lev. 25-Year of Jubilee)

                  Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives (Lev. 25:9-10; Jubilee), and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
                  Isa 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD (Lev. 25:9-10; Jubilee), and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

                  Zep 1:14 The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
                  Zep 1:15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,
                  Zep 1:16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

                  Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days (Days of Awe; Leviticus 23 Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement): be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

                  And I can keep going for another 100+ scriptures.

                  Geneeration:
                  Hebrew dowr, “revolution,” period of time; 100 years in the patriarchal age (Gen_15:13; Gen_15:16; Exo_12:40), afterward 30 or 40 years (Job_42:16; Luk_1:50).
                  Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
                  Gen 6:3 And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years/Jubilees.
                  An age (the average lifetime, 33 years): “Hid for (Greek “from the”) ages and (from the) generations” (Col_1:26).
                  Generation. In the long-lived patriarchal age, a generation seems to have been computed at 100 years, Gen_15:16, compare Gen_15:13 and Ecc_12:40, but subsequently, the reckoning was the same which has been adopted by modern civilized nations, namely, From thirty to forty years Job_42:16.
                  The Hebrews seem to have reckoned time by the generation. In the time of Abraham a generation was an hundred years, thus: Gen_15:16, “In the fourth generation” = in four hundred years (compare Gen_15:13 and Exo_12:40). In Deu_1:35 and Deu_2:14 a generation is a period of thirty-eight years.
                  And this is only on e-sword.

                  Matthew 24:34. Verily I say unto you, This\that generation (70 years, Psalm 90:10; Psalm 14:5; Matt. 24:32) shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
                  (Matt 10:23; 16:28; 23:36) NO one living when Jesus spoke these words lived to see “all these things” come to pass. However, the Greek word can mean “race” or “family,” which makes good sense here; i.e., the Jewish race will be preserved, in spite of terrible persecution, until the Lord comes.
                  If the greek e genea avte means this people, the Yeshua is guaranteeing that the Jews will persist as a people until the second coming. He is echoing the promise of Jer 31:35-37.
                  Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
                  Thus after proclaiming the New Covenant at Jeremiah 31:31-34, God immediately states that the Jewish people will last at least as long as the sun and moon. Both Yeshua and Jeremiah refute Replacelemt Theology.
                  However, e genea avte could mean “this generation.” If so, Yeshua must have meant either his onw generation or a future one. If his own, the either all these things already happened long ago, an interpretation which strains credibility if words mean anything; or they did not happen, in which case prophecy was false, since his own generation passed away by the early second century at the latest. Those who think he meant that a future generation will see all these things happen have the problem of determining how to recognize it, because vv. 4-33 can be variously understood. Thus some believe “this generation” began with the founding of the state of Israel in 1948 or with Israel’s recovery of the Old City of Jerusalem in 1967, while others maintain it has not begun yet. Also, what constitutes a generations’ passing away? A biblical generation (40 years) the average age at death (70-80 years), or when the last person born at the indicated time has grown old and died (100-plus years?)
                  Arndt and Gingrich’s A Greek-English Lexicon is inconclusive. Under “genea’ gives the root meaning, “family, descent,” and adds: 1. Literally, those descent from a common ancestor, a clan; then race, kind generically…The meaning nation is advocated by some in Matt 24:34, Mk 13:30, Lk 21:32; but see also 2. 2 Basically the sum total of those born at the same time, expanded in include all those living at a given time–generation; contemporaries (cf. Gen 7:1; Ps 11:8 (and many NT references, including all three cited under “1”).”

                  Generation based on Israel becoming a nation in 1948. The proper exegesis of this passage is the word “generation” which literally means from the Greek “genea”, “this born one” which is refereeing to the birth of the nation of Israel which occurred after the two birth pangs of World War I and World War II. World War I prepared the land for the return of the Jews with the Balfour declaration and the birth pang of World War II which brought the Jews back into the land. From those two events came the birth of the nation of Israel on May 14th 1948. I cannot tell you how many Bible teachers completely miss this plain observation of World War I and World War II as being the birth pangs “sorrows” that gave birth to the nation of Israel. This found in Matthew 24:7-9 “Seven Points proving Christ in 2017” lasttrumpet.org.

                  Now let us look at the term generation. How old is a generation?

                  With the birth of the nation of Israel we now we have a fixed date to work with of 1948. From this we can easily deduce the following. How much time is left before our Lord Yeshua return to earth for His second advent! Our Lord Yeshua said from the Matthew 24:34 passages listed above that “this generation will not pass till all is fulfilled.” So all these things must be completed before our Lord Yeshua can return to earth to rule and reign and this begs the next question how old is the life span of a generation?

                  The best passage to use to determine the age of a generation is Psalm 90:10 “The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years.” Now a generation age cannot be anything number less 60 years because we are already 60 plus years down the time line sense the birth of the nation of Israel on May 14th 1948. So we will use the threescore years and ten which is 70 years because this number of years fits best into solving the equation for solving the Lord’s return date. I will explain why this fits better than using the 80 years for the age of a generation later on.

                  So with the birth of the nation of Israel that occurred on May 14th 1948. Plus the time frame for a generation to live is to be 70 or 80 years long, this from Psalm 90:10 brings us to the maximum outside return date for our Lord Yeshua of 2028. It cannot go beyond that point with the information we have presented so far. Now we need to look at some other considerations. The Jubilee year! Leviticus 25, Yeshua will only return on Yom Kippur and a Jubilee year. And the next one will occur on September 30th 2017. So the 2028 date is too far out of range if we use 80 years from Psalm 90:10 but if we use the max age of 70 years that brings us up to only 2018. “Seven Points proving Christ in 2017” lasttrumpet.org.

                  Let’s look at this at a different direction.

                  Psa 102:16 When the LORD shall build up Zion (Jerusalem/Israel), he shall appear in his glory.
                  Psa 102:17 He will regard the prayer of the destitute, and not despise their prayer.
                  Psa 102:18 This shall be written for the generation to come: and the people which shall be created shall praise the LORD. The Hebrew word for “the generation” implies that it is for the terminal generation, or the last generation.

                  Here are some other things to ponder about 2017
                  2017 and Day of Atonement Begins
                  Jubilee 120 (6003); Day 6 Yom Teruah (Day of Trumpet) Sept 21-22; Day 1 Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Sept 30; Sukkot Day 6 15 (Oct 5) Messianic Kingdom begins.
                  Torah Calendar.com

                  Battle of Jerusalem 1917 + 100 (2 Jubilees)=2017 Year of Jubilee
                  wikipedia. Battle of Jerusalem 1917.

                  6th Day War in Israel Month 4, Day 2 6/11/1967+Jubilee (Lev. 25:9)=2017 Year of Jubilee
                  en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War –
                  chabad.org/multimedia/timeline_cdo/aid/…/Introduction.htm Miracles of the six day war

                  Israel became a nation 1948+70=2018 Pentecost Proclamation went out in 1947.
                  http://www.sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Abraham.pdf Abraham tied into Israel rebirth in 1948
                  http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2011/luisv816.htm
                  1260-1290-days-bible-prophecy.org/bible_prophecy-Israel-nation-1260-years-2x.htm
                  thedevineevidence.com/prophecy.html Fulfilled prophecy of the Nation Israel.

                  Judah ben Samuel Prophecy
                  Jubilees 1-8 (1517 to 1917): Turks will rule.
                  Jubilee 9 (1917 to 1967): Jerusalem a “no man’s land.”
                  Jubilee 10 (1967 to 2017): Jerusalem under God’s appointed control, Messianic end times will begin.
                  Jubilee 11: Begins at Yom Kippur 9/30/17. Messianic King arrives.

                  Woman Clothed with the Sun Rev 12:1-2 Virgo and Leo
                  http://sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sign.pdf
                  The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12

                  Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) Judgment of the Nations, Ezekiel 38-39 War?, Armageddon (Rev 16:16ff, Rev 19:11ff)

                  Giza Pyramids of 2017.
                  http://sonoma.edu/users/v/vegalu/eschatology_files/Sphinx.pdf
                  The Coming Epiphany Chapter 12

                  Now let us travel back in time to Creation Month and see if anything lines up.
                  3986 B.C. Oct 17 Yom Kipper\Day of Atonement. Sacrifice of the first animal for Adam and Eve.
                  Torahcalendar.com

                  Also, this may apply. 29CE Day 6 (Oct 6) Yom Kippur\Day of Atonement (Lev 23:27) Yeshua baptized in Jordan River. Note: Some Messianic Rabbi’s and teachers say He was baptized on the Day of Trumpet.
                  Torahcalendar.com; Biblical Astronomy 1.

                  According to the Jewish wedding, the groom and bride gets baptized before their joining.
                  Also according to the wedding, the bride gets baptized a second time before her wedding day which we see a picture of with the mixed multitude in Exodus crossing over the Jordan river. We will be experiencing this when we come under the judgment of fire and receive our crowns.
                  On the wedding day and thereafter, the groom is King and the bride is Queen. Some wedding articles say that the groom and bride are king and queen for the day.

                  • 2017 – seems too early for me considering all the other signs that have to be in place – eg 7 year 3.5 + 3.5 years tribulation – maybe 2017 is start of tribulation 7 years and the other major signs happen in the first 3.5 years
                    but 3.5 years would seem too short for the signs of the end times.
                    Maybe “this” generation means that all those alive at 1948 have to have passed away .

  103. Published on Aug 5, 2015
    There are a lot of rumors around what will happen in September and October of 2015. A YouTuber names Seal Man sent me a note that included a list of 27 things. So I decided to share it with you all. Below are the links to most of the items mentioned in the video.

    Israeli Rabbi Says Messiah Coming
    http://www.breakingisraelnews.com/445

    What is Shmitta
    http://www.chabad.org/library/article

    Rosh Hashanah and the creation of Adam and Eve
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosh_Ha

    Anno Lucis Year of Light
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Lucis

    UN Resolution for the State of Palestine Sept. 15
    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/06/un-

    Jade Helm 15 ends on Sept 15.
    http://american3rdposition.com/wp-con

    International Day of Peace Septebmer 21
    http://www.un.org/en/events/peaceday/

    Yom Kippur (Day of atonement) starts the evening of Sept 21
    http://www.chabad.org/holidays/jewish

    70th Jubilee year to start on Sept 23
    http://www.markbeast.com/70jubilees/j

    Day of Arafat (Pilgrimmage to Mecca) begins Sept 22
    http://islam.about.com/od/calendar/fl

    Islamic Feast of Sacrifice Sept 23-26
    http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/u

    Prophetic Time Cycle from Israel Recapture june 7 1967 to September 23, 2015
    http://www.convertunits.com/dates/fro
    http://september2015.com/daniels-week

    Mayan Time Cycle in years to days from Sept 11 – Sept 23 (5126 days)
    http://membercentral.aaas.org/blogs/s

    Madonna Tour east coast
    http://www.madonna.com/tour

    Pope Francis Apostolic tour
    http://www.usccb.org/about/leadership

    SESAME project partner with CERN
    http://www.sesame.org.jo/sesame/about

    Etymology at CERN
    http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?a

    CERN Expert Website Anthony Patch
    http://www.anthonypatch.com/images-2….

    CERN Log In to Schedule
    https://login.cern.ch/adfs/ls/?wa=wsi

    500 Day Climate Change Limit
    http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/p

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  104. Marianne and All- I have thought about posting this for quite a while, but have not because of its length. Most have a short attention span and go from one thing to another rapidly or are just to busy. I don’t say that to be rude or condescending; I have much the same problem. The following video is 1 3/4 of an hour long. It is specifically about the USA and its demise at the end (the time we are living in right now)! I would urge all to watch and listen. One thing-don’t let his appearance throw you off! He is a Messianic Jew who is a believer in Yahshua. Focus on what is being said with literally everything being corroborated by scripture.

    https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AwrEWDR2tsRVdUgAa_hXNyoA;_ylc=X1MDMjc2NjY3OQRfcgMyBGZyA3lmcC10LTMwOC1zBGdwcmlkA003UFdhNUJ3U1dHeWVjWW9XTHVnZUEEbl9yc2x0AzAEbl9zdWdnAzQEb3JpZ2luA3NlYXJjaC55YWhvby5jb20EcG9zAzAEcHFzdHIDBHBxc3RybAMEcXN0cmwDNDUEcXVlcnkDdGhlIHVzYSBpbiBiaWJsZSBwcm9waGVjeSBlZGRpZSBjaHVtbmV5IHZpZGVvBHRfc3RtcAMxNDM4OTU1NTM4?p=the+usa+in+bible+prophecy+eddie+chumney+video&fr2=sb-top-search&fr=yfp-t-308-s&fp=1

    Shalom

  105. It is the top video on the page at an hour and 43 minutes.

  106. Shalom & thanks brother for providing the links. I can hardly wait to watch these videos tonight. I have newsletters and videos from a ‘non-religious’ top financial adviser who himself said that it’s very uncanny how the financial collapse and previous ones have been related to the Shmitah. Yah can use anyone He chooses to warn the world for He loves every man woman and child including those who do not know Him at all. He does not want any human being to perish that is the beautiful loving heart of our Creator & Savior and none other god is like Him.

    Blessings!!

  107. So how does the antichrist get everyone to take the mark of buying and selling if he is only in charge of say , Wales .
    What about the ten supernations in the club of rome plan that fulfils daniel’s prophecy of the ten kings (ten toes) the world empire which the rock of Jesus smashes to pieces.
    Why does Jesus shorten the days of tribulation or all would perish in the world.

  108. “By “peace” he will destroy many ……” It appears to be a false peace – not from Jesus

  109. There won’t be peace for 3 1/2 years! Only in Israel (the country) because of the 2 witnesses, God’s divine presences, will protect the Remnant. The remnant is the small number of people that are true Israelites (not Judaism). They will hear the Word and then believe. They may even run to the wilderness for Divine protection and substance. The remaining Jews will NOT come to light because they are not Israelites.

    The rest of the world (most likely USA, Britain, some of Europe, Australia) will be undergoing extreme troubles. The Body of Christ will be GONE. This is truly biblical, sorry for all those NOT called, you may get it (Word) during the tribulation and my prayer is that you Endure to the only way – hold on to Jesus the Christ.

    And then the AC will come to power and go after Israel. The non believing Jews and reprobate Christians will celebrate the 2 witnesses death. This will be “Jacob’s trouble”. Remnant run to the wilderness at this time. Jer 30 and Psa 20.

    Forget your man’s traditions , your self righteousness, your own strengths, it is through your “weakness” you are made strong (let the Holy Spirit work) and rely on the Holy Spirit’s revelations while it is available to you. He will teach you the truth.

    Lose all your “isms”, Catholicism, Judaism, SDA and other religion, your “work”! Call and rely on YHVH for your “revelations” and then 2 or 3 witnesses will come to light. Don’t get your knowledge from man. Be not conformed to the world but be transformed!

    Fellow members in Christ, if you have ears, HEAR.

    BTW, these two witnesses will be true prophets and it is not the two witnesses of Zec 4:14, that is the OT and NT. The 2 witnesses of Rev are real people and for Israel the remnant and Israel that is also scattered.

  110. The two witnesses ? Enoch and Elijah did not die but were taken to heaven- it may be them .

  111. Who told you that they were symbolic ???
    It is literal – plain as day – two individuals protected by God preach round the world as a last chance – they can stop the rain – or call down fire – you know the rest.
    Its hard to kill two symbolics and raise the two symbolics up to heaven.

    Its hard to party when the two symbolics die – how do we know they die if it is a “symbolic” death.
    Its easy to say symbolic when you dont understand – the churches have been doing this for 2000 years.
    I would not take away from Revelation. When revelation is symbolic it will clearly explain what the symbols mean.
    And the two witnesses are described in a plain and simple way.

    • Because the whole passage is quoting Zec chapter 4. The two witnesses is the Word of God, i.e. the Bible.

  112. The witnesses will certainly be preaching the word but a bible cant be killed
    in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 days – then come to life – where the literal is plainly understood then why symbolise it .

    • French Revolution? Bibles were outlawed and mass burnings of Bible during a 3.5 year period at the end of the 1260 years of dark ages in France, Paris. The Bible called this spiritually(something you all seem to ignore because it doesn’t fit) Sodom and Egypt. Sodom = sexual immorality. Egypt = Athesism. Exo 5 the king of Egypt said “Who is the Lord that I should obey him? I know not the Lord neither will I obey him.”

      • The 2 witnesses are end-time prophecy. Note that after they are resurrected the kingdoms of the earth are become the kingdom of God. It is unlikely that there is a 240 year gap between two successive verses.

  113. Don’t be deceived or confused. The Bible mention two witnesses a couple of times but it doesn’t mean they are the same time or for the same dispensation. Zec 4 is symbolic, the Word they are the OT and NT while the two witnesses of Rev are two real literal prophets. Most confuse these. You have to “rightly” divide the Word of God. Not too much division or you become in error or start to have tunnel vision. Tunnel vision begins religion.

    I never said who the two real prophets will be, that has not been given to me. I suspect one will be Elijah.

    Crucify the flesh!

    • Then I accuse you of making it all up as you go along.

      Heck using the same logic I could make up stuff based on one passage and make a doctrine out of it.

  114. To interpret the French revolution as the two witnesses in Revelation at the end of days is stretching credibility in the extreme .

  115. Jim Skeptic Smart Alec
    Since you will not come to Jardalkal@aol.com to get this file +15 others on the Day of Trumpet, this 20 page document is being shoved down your throat so eat it well.

    The Birth of Jesus and the Day of Trumpets
    http://www.askelm.com/star/star008.htm modified by John Ashcraft 8/20/2014 by the word Note:
    Note: Lev 23:23 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, Lev 23:24 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first day of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial (Heb zakar) of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
    Notebm: Zakar means “to mark (so as to be recognized) or “to be mindful” and “make to be remembered.”
    Num 29:1 And in the seventh month, on the first day of the month, ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work: it is a day (yom) of blowing (teruah) the trumpets (shofars) unto you.
    On the Feast of Trumpets, the shofar, or trumpet, is blown 100 times. Three sounds are made with the trumpet: Tekiah is one long, striaght blast. Shevarim is three shorter blasts. Teruah is none quick blasts in short succession. The 100th blast on the Feast of Trumpets known as “the last trump.” (I Cor. 15:51-53) Later on in this article you will get a different meaning on “the last trump.”
    Teruah means “battle cry,” “sounding an alarm,” and even “shouting,” as seen in Ps 47:5.
    Askelm: The historical evidence I have presented in this book shows that Jesus was born in the year 3 B.C.E. It appears most probable that a fall birth in 3 B.C.E. has the best credentials. I need not rehearse my reasons for this, but they are very strong. Indeed, the evidence from the priestly courses alone suggests that a September nativity is the most likely. This gives a pretty close approximation that most scholars would probably accept as reasonable. But now, we come to the nitty-gritty! To propose an early evening birth on September 11, 3 B.C.E. appears almost impossible to believe. To get that close to his time of birth might at first seem to be fanciful.
    The fact is, however, I can state without a shadow of a doubt, that the celestial scene described by the apostle John in Revelation 12:1–5, if viewed astronomically, would center precisely on a New Moon date within mid-September, and that in 3 B.C.E. that exact celestial phenomenon would have occurred in the early evening of September 11th. I can also state with assurance that sundown on September 11, 3 B.C.E. was also the beginning of the Jewish New Year (Rosh ha-Shanah ― The Day of Trumpets).
    Even if the apostle John were only giving the symbolic time for Jesus’ nativity, and not the actual, we are provided with a great deal of insight on how early Christians interpreted significant periods of time on the holy calendar of Israel. If Jesus were actually born on Rosh ha-Shanah (the Day of Trumpets) in 3 B.C.E., a most impressive astronomical panorama of events burst forth on the scene that would have awed and astonished most Jewish people who lived at the time. Truly, this is not an exaggeration.
    John’s Notes: Nothing happened in 3 BC or 4 BC on September 11 according to Stellarium. When using Stellarium, 3 BC is actually 4 BC. In 3 BC, on Sept 21 we have Sun, Mercury, Mars, and the Moon in Virgo with no planets in Leo. On the 11th of September of 4 BC, Sun and Mercury is in Virgo and Venus and Regulus conjoin in Leo. Mercury in retrograde. On 9/4/-4BC, the moon is at Virgo’s feet, Sun in shoulder and nobody in the birth canal. On 9/21/-4 BC, Sun is in birth canal, no moon present and Venus is still in Leo. According to stellarium, in 3 BC the sun was in the womb of Virgo on Sept. 21 (Day of Atonement; Torahcaledar.com) so this was the birth day of Yeshua/Jesus.
    The Importance of the Day of Trumpets
    Look at the celestial events that occurred around that Rosh ha-Shanah date of September 11th in 3 B.C.E. Exactly one month before (on August 12) the world would have witnessed the close conjunction of Jupiter (reckoned astrologically as the Father) and Venus (the Mother) when they were only .07 degrees from one another when they appeared as morning stars on the eastern horizon. This was a very close union. But then, nineteen days later (August 31), Venus came to within .36 degrees of Mercury in a very similar astronomical display.
    Note: Stellarium shows no happenings. Mars and Regulus in Leo conjoin in 3 BC on August 12. On August 31, Spica and Mercury near by in 4 BC. The above paragraph is bogus.
    Then, on September 11th, the New Moon occurred which represented the Jewish New Year. This happened when Jupiter (the King planet) was then approaching Regulus (the King star). And, on September 14, Jupiter and Regulus came to their first of three conjunctions in this extraordinary year. Then, over an eight month period, Jupiter made its “crowning effect” over the King star Regulus. There could hardly have been a better astronomical testimony to the birth of the new messianic king from the Jewish point of view. Why? Because every one of these celestial occurrences I have mentioned happened with the Sun or planets being positioned within the constellation of Leo the Lion (the constellation of Judah — from whence the Messiah was destined to emerge) or in Virgo the Virgin. The apostle John may have seen importance in these extraordinary occurrences when he symbolically showed that Jesus was born at the New Moon of Tishri, the Day of Trumpets (Revelation 12:1–3). Note: Bogus paragraph.
    What we now need to do is to rehearse some of the typical and figurative features of the biblical accounts associated with this particular day. They may well reveal why John and early Christians looked on Jesus as the Christ and the king of the universe. The Day of Trumpets was a special day that symbolically showed this rule.
    If one can realize that the New Testament shows Jesus born on the Day of Trumpets (the first day of Tishri ― the start of the Jewish civil year) an impressive amount of symbolic features emerge on the biblical and prophetic scenes. Before the period of the Exodus in the time of Moses, this was the day that began the biblical year. It also looks like this was the day when people were advanced one year of life ― no matter at what month of the year they were actually born.
    Note: No matter what, we know from records that Yesha/Jesus was born in the 7th month in 3 BC whether it be on Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpet, Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement, or on the first annual Sabbath of Sukkot/Feast of Tabernacles.
    Notice that the patriarch Noah became 600 years of age “in the first month [Tishri], the first day of the month [later to be called the Day of Trumpets]” (Genesis 8:13). That was the very day when “Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry” (v. 13). This was not only Noah’s official birthday, it became a new birth after the Flood for the earth as well.
    Note: 1656 years from creation 2228 BCE מבּוּל mabbûl; Flood Methuselah dies year of flood 969 years old; Noah 600 years old
    In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened. Bereshit, Genesis 7:11 (1649 years from the fall – Book of Jubilees, Paradise and the Fall iii: 17 )
    http://www.walkinthelight.ca/timeline.htm; http://www.baruchhashemadonai.org/timeline.htm
    There is more. Even the first day of creation mentioned in Genesis 1:1–5 could be reckoned as being this very day. The early Jews discussed whether the actual creation took place in spring or in autumn. But since the autumn commenced all biblical years before the Exodus (Exodus 12:2), and since all the fruit was then on the trees ready for Adam and Eve to eat (Genesis 1:29; 2:9, 16–17), it suggests that the month of Tishri was the creation month, beginning near the autumn. If so, then the first day of creation mentioned in Genesis was also the first of Tishri (at least, Moses no doubt intended to give that impression). This means that not only was this the birthday of the new earth in Noah’s day and what was later to become the Day of Trumpets on the Mosaic calendar, but it was also the day which ushered in the original creation of the heavens and the earth.
    Note: Torahcalendar.com 3986 BC, 7th month.
    Israel’s two diasporas in 722 and 586 B.C. and the collapse of the Jewish Monarchy led to the recognition of Tishri and Rosh HaShanah, rather than Nisan and Passover, as the head of the year.
    As shown before, among the Jews this day was called Rosh ha-Shanah (the Feast of the New Year). The majority belief of Jewish elders (which still dominates the services of the synagogues) was that the Day of Trumpets was the memorial day that commemorated the beginning of the world. Authorized opinion prevailed that the first of Tishri was the first day of Genesis 1:1–5. It “came to be regarded as the birthday of the world.” (1) It was even more than an anniversary of the physical creation. The Jewish historian Theodor H. Gaster states,
    “Judaism regards New Year’s Day not merely as an anniversary of creation ― but more importantly ― as a renewal of it. This is when the world is reborn.” (2)
    Gaster’s insight is so germane to the interpretation of the significance of biblical festivals that I will be referring to his research several times in my following references.
    When Was the “Last Trump”?
    The matter does not stop there. Each of the Jewish months was officially introduced by the blowing of trumpets (Numbers 10:10). Since the festival year in which all the Mosaic festivals were found was seven months long, the last month (Tishri) was the last month for a festival trumpet. This is one of the reasons that the day was called “the Day of Trumpets.” The last trump in the seven months’ series was always sounded on this New Moon day. This made it the final trumpets’ day (Leviticus 23:24; Numbers 29:1).
    This was the exact day that many of the ancient kings and rulers of Judah reckoned as their inauguration day of rule. This procedure was followed consistently in the time of Solomon, Jeremiah, and Ezra (3) The Day of Trumpets was also acknowledged as the time for counting the years of their kingly rule. Indeed, it was customary that the final ceremony in the coronation of kings was the blowing of trumpets.
    ⦁ For Solomon, “Blow ye the trumpet, and say, ‘God save king Solomon’” (1 Kings 1:34).
    ⦁ For Jehu, “And [they] blew with trumpets, saying, ‘Jehu is king’” (2 Kings 9:13).
    ⦁ At the enthronement of Jehoash, “The people of the land rejoiced, and blew with trumpets” (2 Kings 11:11).
    There could well be a reflection of this symbolic feature in the New Testament. The Day of Trumpets was the time for the start of the seventh month (since the time of Moses), and the time for the “last trump” to introduce festival months. Note that in the Book of Revelation, we have the record of a heavenly angel who will blow the seventh and last trumpet blast. And recall what happens at the exact time this “last trump” is sounded.
    “And the seventh angel sounded [blew the last trump]; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, ‘The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and of his Christ; and he shall reign forever and ever [for the ages of the ages].’”Revelation 11:15
    In New Testament parlance this shows the time of the coronation of Jesus, and it happens at the seventh (or last) trump in the Book of Revelation ― the Day of Trumpets.
    Further Significance of the Day of Trumpets
    The early Jews also recognized that the Day of Trumpets was a memorial day for considering those who had died. It was not a simple type of “Memorial Day” that we moderns are accustomed to. Gaster said it was a symbolic time when “the dead return to rejoin their descendants at the beginning of the year.” (4) Such a day was a time when Israel would rally to the call of God for the inauguration of God’s kingdom on earth. Gaster also states this was the time that became “a symbol of the Last Trump.” (5) Since the apostle Paul was Jewish, it is possible that his reference to the “Last Trump” and the resurrection from the dead was also connected with the same biblical theme. The “Last Trump” of the early Jews was when the dead were remembered. To Paul the “Last Trump” was the time for Jesus’ second advent and the resurrection of the dead (1 Corinthians 15:52; 1 Thessalonians 4:16).
    Truly, the Day of Trumpets theme is that of kingship. There may even be a reference to this in the elevation of the patriarch Joseph to kingship on this New Moon day which began the month of Tishri. Notice that he had been in a dungeon for “two full years” (Genesis 41:1). It was not simply a two year period which Moses was intending, but the passage of two full years. The implication is that the story of Joseph’s rise to kingship happened on a New Year’s Day. This is manifest in Psalm 81, a New Year’s psalm commemorating Joseph’s royal enthronement (Genesis 41:40). As with Jesus, in Revelation 11:15, the kingdoms of the world became Joseph’s on the day intended for coronations ― the day that later became the Day of Trumpets. Of course, Pharaoh retained top leadership, but as the New Testament shows, God the Father still maintains supreme rule over Jesus even when Jesus is prophesied to rule the kingdoms of this world.
    The Crowning of Kings
    As we have shown from the Bible, the blowing of trumpets was the sign that kings could then begin to rule (1 Kings 1:34; 2 Kings 9:13; 11:11). Jewish authorities long acknowledged this royal import to the Day of Trumpets. Gaster states, “The Sovereignty of God is a dominant theme of the occasion [and] it is one of the cardinal features of New Year’s Day.” (6) The main issue that prevailed in the significance of the day was the triumph of God as a king over all the forces of evil. The symbolic motif of the Day of Trumpets, as Gaster shows, was God
    “continually fighting His way to the Kingdom, continually asserting His dominion, and continually enthroning Himself as sovereign of creation. At New Year when the world was annually reborn that sovereignty was evinced anew.” (7)
    The theological thrust of the early Jews within their synagogue services for the Day of Trumpets was the fact that God rules over all and that he is the King of kings. On Trumpets it was common to quote Zechariah 14:16. “The king, the Lord of hosts.” Indeed, some scholars have suggested that psalms which begin “Yahweh is become king [or ‘The Lord reigns’]” (Psalm 93 and 97) were originally designed for recitation at the New Year festival.” (8) Recent study shows this to be true. It is postulated by many scholars that in Israel, Yahweh was crowned annually at the “New Year feast of Yahweh.” The scholar Mowinckel has argued that the “enthronement psalms” (Psalms 47, 93, 96–99) in which Yahweh reigns were a part of the liturgy of the ancient synagogues. (9) There is no doubt that this is true. This was also the very day when Jesus was born.
    Jesus as the King of Kings (Notebm: HaMelech: Coronation of the Messiah)
    The central theme of the Day of Trumpets is clearly that of enthronement of the great King of kings.
    Notebm: The sounding of the shofar was to reaffirm Elohim’s sovereignty and kingship over the world. It is believed that Adam was created on the day that would become the Feast of Trumpets. (Hebrew4christians.com/Yom Teruah; Judaism 101.com/Yom Teruah). It is believed that creation began six days earlier than the Friday that Adam was created on.
    Torahcalendar.com in the 7th month in 3986 has a listing for that week. They have Rosh Hashanah on the first day of the week and creation of Adam and Eve on Friday. In 3985 in the 7th month, they have Rosh Chodesh/Day 6 and Yom Teruah/Day of Trumpet and Rosh Hashanah/Civil New Year on Shabbat/Shabbat Rosh Chodesh.
    There are four parts to the enthronement ceremony of a Jewish king:
    1. The giving of the decree. Birth 3 BC. 2. The taking of the throne (28-35 AD) Passover 3. The acclmation (Rev 19:6-8) 4. The pledging of the subjects’ allegiance
    The following quote from The Jewish Voice further clarifies this view:
    “How do we know that Passover is Rosh HaShanah for the Kings? It is in the Tanach [Old Testament], though somewhat hidden. How do we know that the Kings of Israel are crowned at Passover? In I Kings, it says this: ‘… in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month of Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the House of Adonai.’ (I Kings 6:1) It is repeated in II Chronicles 3:2 as well. The second month of the reign of King Solomon – which means Solomon was crowned the month before! The month of Zif is now known as the month of Iyar, which comes after the month of Nisan, when Passover is. From this understanding, we can check it with the other kings of Israel as well. There was a debate between the House of Hillel and the House of Shamai, whether it was on the 15th or the 1st of the month, but the 15th is Passover night, and this became the common understanding.”
    In the ancient world, then, Israelites regarded the 1st of Nisan as the New Year for Kings, and the festival of Passover as the actual coronation day. The day that Jesus was crucified was also the traditional Jewish day for the Coronation of Kings! (Jn 19:1-8).
    http://www.bibleprophecyblog.com/2009/04/passover-coronation-day-for-jewish.html#
    Psalm 47 is known as the Coronation Psalm. The year of Solomon’s coronation is 985 BCE. David is 70 years old and has reigned for a total of 40 years. In I Kings 1:38-40, it is recorded how Solomon is now anointed to become the next king of Israel. Solomon is only 18 years old, and several interesting incidents had transpired before his selection. But the selection was now established, so Zadok the priest took a horn of oil out of the tabernacle, and anointed Solomon. The people greatly rejoiced, as they saw in Solomon new hope for Israel.David rejoiced as well, for in a short while, he knew his earthly reign would be completed. Psalm 47 expresses this joy. (The Stories Behind the Psalms by Dale Cain, Lubbuck, Texas)
    Psa 47:1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm for the sons of Korah. O clap your hands, all ye people; shout (teruah) unto God with the voice of triumph. 47:2 For the LORD most high is terrible; he is a great King over all the earth. 47:3 He shall subdue the people under us, and the nations under our feet. 47:4 He shall choose our inheritance for us, the excellency of Jacob whom he loved. Selah. Psa 47:5 God is gone up with a shout (teruah), the LORD with the sound of a trumpet (Day of Trumpet/ shophar). 47:6 Sing praises to God, sing praises: sing praises unto our King, sing praises. 47:7 For God is the King of all the earth: sing ye praises with understanding. 47:8 God reigneth over the heathen: God sitteth upon the throne of his holiness. 47:9 The princes of the people are gathered together, even the people of the God of Abraham: for the shields of the earth belong unto God: he is greatly exalted.

    Yeshua will come to judge the earth (Ps 98:6-9)
    The Feasts of the Lord in Lev. 23 are not only divine appointments but are also dress rehearsals for us. Due to anti-Semitism, these divine appointments are totally ignored. If you belong to the Lord, these feasts belong to you.
    “When the Lord shall build up Zion (Israel), he shall appear in his glory.” (Ps 102:16)

    —-
    This was the general understanding of the day in early Judaism and it is certainly that of the New Testament. In Revelation 11:15, recall that the seventh angel sounds his “last trump” and the kingdoms of this world become those of Jesus. This happens at a time when a woman is seen in heaven with twelve stars around her head and the Sun mid-bodied to her, with the Moon under her feet. This is clearly a New Moon scene for the Day of Trumpets.
    And note: Professor Thorley who reviewed the first edition of my work has shown that there are exactly twelve stars surrounding the head of Virgo as we see them from earth. And indeed there are. If one will look at Norton’s Star Atlas, twelve visible stars will be seen around Virgo’s head. They are (according to astronomical terminology): (1) Pi, (2) Nu, (3) Beta (near the ecliptic), (4) Sigma, (5) Chi, (6) Iota — these six stars form the southern hemisphere around the head of Virgo. Then there are (7) Theta, (8) Star 60, (9) Delta, (10) Star 93, (11) Beta (the 2nd magnitude star) and (12) Omicron — these last six form the northern hemisphere around the head of Virgo. All these stars are visible and could have been witnessed by observers on earth.


    Thus, the description of the apostle John describes a perfectly normal heavenly scene that could be recognized by all people. Here was Virgo with twelve stars around her head, while the Sun was in uterine position and the Moon under her feet. And again, the only time this could have occurred in 3 B.C.E. was on the Day of Trumpets. This is when the “king of kings” was born.
    Note: Nothing happened in 3 BC or 4 BC on September 11 according to Stellarium. When using Stellarium, 3 BC is actually 4 BC. In 3 BC, on Sept 21 (Yom Kippur) we have Sun, Mercury, Mars, and the Moon in Virgo with no planets in Leo. The Sun is in the birth canal and the moon below her feet. On the 11th of September of 4 BC, Sun and Mercury is in Virgo and Venus and Regulus conjoin in Leo. Mercury in retrograde. On 9/4/-4BC, the moon is at Virgo’s feet, Sun in shoulder and nobody in the birth canal. On 9/21/-4 BC, Sun is in birth canal, no moon present and Venus is still in Leo. According to Torahcalendar.com Yom Teruah is on Sept 23 in 4 BC, Sept 12 in 3 BC, and Oct 1 in 2 BC.
    Another explanation of the Twelve Stars around the head of Virgo is that it represents the headship position (the “head” of Virgo is situated in the last ten degrees of Leo) for the beginning of the story found within the Twelve Constellations as reckoned in the biblical Zodiac. In the biblical Zodiac, the tribe of Judah (the Lion, or Leo) was situated around the Tabernacle directly east of its entrance. This meant that half of the tribe of Judah was south and the other half north of the east/west line from the Holy of Holies through the court of Israel and then eastward through the camp of Israel (in this case, Judah) to encounter the altar outside the camp where the Red Heifer was burnt to ashes. This means, unlike some Gentile reckonings which started their zodiacal story with the zero line between Cancer and Leo (that is, at the very commencement of Leo), the biblical Zodiac that Drs. Bullinger and Seiss were talking about began with the 15th degree of Leo (of Judah). This signifies that the first constellation to be met with in this celestial story would have been the “head” of Virgo the Virgin which occupied the last ten degrees of Leo. So, John began his story at this point.
    The Significance of Being Born on New Year’s Day
    The Day of Trumpets in the biblical and Jewish calendars is New Year’s Day for commercial and royal reckonings (just as we have January the first on our Roman calendar as the start of our New Year). This New Year’s Day signified a time of “new beginnings” to all those in Israel who accepted the teachings of the Bible. As a matter of fact, the Jews over the centuries have held to the belief that the Day of Trumpets was a cardinal date in the history of Adam (our first parent). It was the very day when Adam and Eve came to the recognition of whether to obey God or to defy him (see The Complete Artscroll Machzor, p.xvi). But that was not all that occurred on that day. No day in the year could be reckoned as being of more esteemed value and symbolic influence than Rosh Ha-Shanah. That day is important for the birth of the Messiah in several ways that are very profound in Jewish symbolism.
    The book The Complete Artscroll Machzor gives some chronological details that the early Jewish theologians and scholars worked out from indications in the Old Testament to show when important individuals were born or major events happened in association with their lives. And what an array of significant things occurred on the Day of Trumpets and the month of Tishri. The book gives a summary of accounts found in the Jewish Talmud (Rosh Ha-Shanah 10b–11a).
    Note what the Machzor states about this particular Day of Trumpets. The quotes are interesting and of value,
    “The Patriarchs Abraham and Jacob were born on Rosh Ha-Shanah. Abraham was a new beginning for mankind after its [mankind’s] failure to realize the promise of Adam and Noah. Jacob was a new beginning for the Jewish people, for it was with him that Jews advanced from the status of individuals to that of a united family on the threshold of nationhood”
    ⦁ Artscroll Machzor, p.xvi, italics and bracketed word mine
    Note: 1948 years from Creation; 1934, 2052 BCE Abram born (Terah 70) (Acts 7:4); 2108 years from Creation; 1781 BCE Jacob and Essau born Isaac 60; http://www.walkinthelight.ca/timeline.htm
    Note: According to wikipedia.com/wiki/Nisan, these people were born in the spring in Abib/Nisan/Month 1.
    The Machzor does not stop with Abraham and Jacob. Look at the following quote,
    “On Rosh Ha-Shanah God remembered three barren women, the Matriarchs Sarah and Rachel, and Hannah the mother of the prophet Samuel and decreed that they would give birth. Not only was Rosh Ha-Shanah a turning point in the lives of these great and worthy women, but the births of their children were momentous events for all Jewry, because they were the historic figures Isaac, Joseph, and Samuel.”
    ⦁ Ibid., italics mine
    If the Jewish people would realize that the New Testament in the Book of Revelation (chapter 12:1–5) also places the birth of Jesus on the very same Day of Trumpets, they might begin to understand just how important Jesus is in a Jewish sense as well as to the world. The New Testament states that he is the Messiah. He shares many similarities with the births of Abraham, Jacob, Isaac, Joseph and Samuel. People should begin to realize the significant coincidences of the birthdays of these prominent men as understood by the Jewish people. And standing out above them all, is the teaching of the apostle John that Rosh Ha-Shanah is also the birthday of Jesus.
    Note: According to Stellarium, it was Yom Kippur/Day of Atonement that the sun went through the birth canal so Yeshua/Jesus was born on Day of Atonement.
    More Significance of the Day of Trumpets
    Jewish chronological evaluations show other important events associated with the Day of Trumpets (Rosh Ha-Shanah). The Machzor continues,
    “On Rosh Ha-Shanah, Joseph was freed from an Egyptian prison after twelve years of incarceration. He became viceroy of Egypt, provider to the world during the years of famine, and the leader of Jacob’s family. God’s plan called for Joseph to set in motion the years of exile and enslavement that were the necessary preparation for Israel’s freedom, nationhood, and emergence in a blaze of miracles to accept the Torah and march to the Land of Israel.”
    ⦁ Ibid.
    Note: 2229 years from Creation; 1630 BCE Joseph (30) appears before Pharoah (Bereshit,Gen. 41:46)
    This shows Rosh ha-Shanah as a day of freedom. There is more on the theme of freedom. The Machzor continues:
    “On Rosh Ha-Shanah, the Jewish people in Egypt stopped their slave labor [they began their time of liberty and freedom], while they waited for the Ten Plagues to play themselves out so that Moses could lead them to freedom”
    ⦁ Ibid., words in brackets mine
    Note: 2437 1455 BCE Pentecost – Torah given Exodus, Israel leaves Egypt; Exodus 13:17 Galations 3:17 Deuteronomy 1:3. Some accounts say the Exodus at Passover began in 1441 BC or 1446 BC. 2400 48th Jubilee (yovel); יובל) 2460 Exodus, Israel leaves Egypt; Exodus 13:4,17 Galations 3:17 Deuteronomy 1:3. This Jubilee is counted from Creation day 1. http://www.walkinthelight.ca/timeline.htm; http://www.baruchhashemadonai.org/timeline.htm
    Blood Moon Notes begin here.
    The Time of Jacob’s Trouble (The Day of the Lord)
    The Day of the Lord (Isa 13:6-8; Joel 2:1-2) refers to God’s special interventions into the course of world events to judge His enemies, accomplish His purpose for history, and thereby demonstrate who He is as the sovereign God of the universe.

    This time of God’s special intervention known primarily as The Day of the Lord has been referred to by other terms in scripture, such as the Time of Jacob’s Trouble (Jer. 30:6-7); His Strange Work/Act (Isa. 28:21); the Day of Israel’s Calamity (Deut. 32:35); the Indignation (Isa. 26:20; Dan. 11:36); the Overflowing Scourge (Isa. 28:15, 18); the Day of Vengeance (Isa. 34:8; 35:4; 61:2); the great day is a Day of Wrath/Distress/Wasteness /Desolation (Zeph. 1:14,15); the Day of Darkness/Thick Darkness/Gloominess (Zeph. 1:15, Joel 2:2); the Day of Trumpet and Alarm (Zeph. 1:16); the hour of trial (Rev. 3:10); the Wrath to Come (1 Thess. 1:10); the Wrath (1 Thess. 5:9), “trumpet” (Matt 24:31; Joel 2:1), a “time of trouble” (Dan 12″1), “wrath of the lamb” (Rev. 6:12, 17) and the Hour of His Judgment (Rev. 14:7). In some instances, the Day of the Lord, due to its unique nature and importance, has been referred to as simply “that day” (Isa. 2:11, 17; 2:20; 4:2; Joel 3:18; Mark 13:32; Luke 21:34; 2 Tim. 1:12, 18; 4:8), and Day of the Lord in the major prophets.
    The Coming Epiphany.com The Coming Epiphany Chapter 1.
    Day of the Awakening Blast (I Thess 4:16-18; Dan 12:2; Isa 26:19-21; Song 5:2-3, 6)
    Song 5:6 reminds me of the ten virgins in Matt 25:1-13 where half were not ready to go. They were asleep. This reminds me of the Apostate church. The brides who are not ready to go are dead asleep with lots of apathy (indifference).
    Yom HaDin (Day of Judgment)
    The Day of Judgment is the Opening of the Books, or the Opening of the Gates. In Judiasm, it is believed that every year on Yom HaDin, the books are opened and the heavenly court is in session. There are three books, one for the righteous, one for the wicked, and the luke-warm folks. God looks over every person’s account to see how we took care of what He inveested in us. The trial lasts ten days, until the Day of Atonement. The idea is for us to realize that our lives are placed on the balance scales. The trial image captures the sense of one’s life in someones else’s hands. If we don’t repent (Teshuvah) we will be judged according to our deeds. We have ten days to repent and amend our ways during this time before the judgment is set and the books are closed on Yom Kippur. Everyone in the world passes before the heavenly Judge, just like a general looking over his troops. The sentence is then meted out during the following days and year. We see the court setting and the opening of the books in Daniel 7:10-11. We also see this in 2 Cor. 5:10 and Rev 20:11-12.
    Yom HaKeseh (The Hidden Day) (Rev 6:12,17; Ps 27:5; Zeph 1:14-18, 2:1-7)
    When people think about the Lord’s wrath being poured out, they want to be hidden in a safe place. How many of you want to be hidden in the time of trouble and the day of the Lord’s anger? Zeph 1:14-18 has the warning signs of what it is going to be like. In the first chapter of Zephaniah, the Lord is telling the Israelites to hurry and get ready. In the next chapter, He tells them what to do just before the disaster comes in 2:1-3.
    If we are the last generation, then we are the terminal generation, then we’d better hurry up and seek the Lord, His righteousness, and meekness, if we want to be hidden. One of the signs that we are close is found in v. 4-5. Zep 2:4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up.

    In 2005 under prime minister Ariel Sharon’s Disengagement Plan, the Israeli settlers were forced to evacuate Gaza. It happened at sunset on the ninth of Av–the same day the ten spies had rejected the land during the time of Moses. The ninth of Av (Tisha B’Av) in month 5 that year was on a Shabbat, but they celebrated it on the first day of the week on the 10th. For the Sin of Believing the False Report of the 10 Spies Numbers 13:25-14:12; Zechariah 7:3-5, 8:19, Ta’anit 26 B. The Scriptures specifically say that the land of Gaza was given to the tribe of Judah. Read Zeph 2:5-7 to find out the rest of the story.
    Remember Isa 26:19-21. Israel was protected through the ten plagues of Egypt, Noah was protected during the Flood, and Lot was protected from the destruction of Sodom.
    Ha Kiddushin/Nesuin (Wedding of the Messiah) Joel 2:15-16; Jn 14:1-4; Matt 25:1-13; Rev 19:6-8. These are only a few of the 100 scriptures.
    Another part of the Feast of the Trumpets is the marriage ceremony in Joel:
    Joe 2:15 Blow the trumpet in Zion, sanctify a fast, call a solemn assembly: 2:16 Gather the people, sanctify the congregation, assemble the elders, gather the children, and those that suck the breasts: let the bridegroom go forth of his chamber, and the bride out of her closet (chuppah).
    The wedding usually occurs under a chuppah. There is 27 steps of the wedding from the choosing of the bride for the groom to the end of the reception/feasting ceremony/marriage supper. John 14:1-4 occurs when the bride agrees to follow the ketubah (wedding contract) and his return at Yom Teruah to pick her up (Matt 25:1-13).
    The coming of the Messiah is clearly based on the Jewish wedding ceremony in Isaiah:
    Isa 62:5 For as a young man marrieth a virgin, so shall thy sons marry thee: and as the bridegroom rejoiceth over the bride, so shall thy God rejoice over thee. 62:6 I have set watchmen upon thy walls, O Jerusalem, which shall never hold their peace day nor night: ye that make mention of the LORD, keep not silence, 62:7 And give him no rest, till he establish, and till he make Jerusalem a praise in the earth.

    The Final Festivals of Israel
    As I stated, this day at the beginning of the month of Tishri was the day when the seventh trump (or the last trump) was sounded to introduce the final month when the festivals of God ordained at the time of Moses would be held. This last trump is mentioned by the apostle Paul as heralding the events associated with the Second Advent of Christ back to this earth (1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16–17). This last or final trump is also mentioned by the apostle John in Revelation 11:15 as the warning sound that the Kingdom of God will soon be coming to earth. And soon after, the seven angels of the Book of Revelation will bring on the seven last plagues (in the same fashion as the Jewish analyzers of chronology saw that from the same day of Rosh Ha-Shanah the Ten Plagues were sent forth on Egypt in the time of Moses).
    What is certain is the fact that the Book of Revelation (with its teaching that Jesus was born on the Day of Trumpets) is giving us in a symbolic way the time for the nativity of Jesus whom Christians considered to be the king of the world. He was prophesied to lead all people into a time of freedom and profound peace. This is the central reason why the apostle John in Revelation 12:1–5 shows that the birth of Jesus occurred within the first few minutes (the twilight period) of the Day of Trumpets that works out to be September 11th in 3 B.C.E.
    Notebm Mark Biltz, Blood Moons, WND Books, Midpoint Trade Books, 2014 P.66,67, 69, 75-76, 79
    1 M’Clintock and Strong, Cyclopedia, X.568. [Editor’s note: In the print version of this book, this endnote was listed as the last endnote of Chapter 5. It rightly belongs as the first endnote of Chapter 6.] DWS
    2 Gaster, Festivals of the Jewish Year, 109.
    3 Thiele, The Mysterious Numbers of the Hebrew Kings, 28, 31, 161, 163.
    4 Gaster, Festivals of the Jewish Year, 108.
    5 Ibid., 113.
    6 Ibid., 115.
    7 Ibid.
    8 Ibid., 114–115.
    9 Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible, II.524.

  116. Quit Spreading The Gospel Of Christ Or Else! A New Reality For The World
    BY C. J. on AUGUST 8, 2015 • ( 22 )
    2 Votes

    christian persecution

    The Western Church remains silent about the global Christian community as a whole. They are either blinded, or watching in silence while one Christian after another is moved toward genocide and extinction. Do they wonder or see the big picture? The dragon (satan) is working very hard to destroy the great commission given by Jesus to His followers. “Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel.” Do you realize that in nearly 1/2 of the world it’s now illegal, or a threat to your life for preaching the Gospel of Christ?

    Nepali constitution could render Christianity illegal
    (World Watch Monitor) Christians fear this will pave the way for an “anti-conversion clause” to be written into the penal code, which could result in prison sentences or hefty fines for “offenders”. On paper, the proposed amendments read the same for all religions, but no specification is given for what constitutes an “act to convert” and, in a country where 80 per cent of the population is Hindu, the hammer is likely to fall hardest on minorities, including Christians, who comprise between 1.5 and 3 per cent of the population.

    Attempting to convert someone to another religion is already prohibited in Nepal, but the proposed amendments would mean that anything perceived as “evangelistic” could be punishable by law.

    Article 31(3) states that “any act to convert another person from one religion to another, or any act or behaviour to undermine or jeopardise the religion of another [will be] punishable by law”.

    Christians fear this will pave the way for an “anti-conversion clause” to be written into the penal code, which could result in prison sentences or hefty fines for “offenders.”

    Amendments like these not only allow, but encourage the expansion of strict ‘Sharia’ law and the like, such as Hindu lands where it is against the law for anyone to convert others to their religion. In Iraq, the region is almost void of vestiges of Christianity. The global community watches one church after another being destroyed.

    The same is spreading in Iraq, Syria, the whole of the Middle East, and large swaths of Africa. Christian communities are completely razed, villagers slaughtered, and those who survive flee for their lives, even crossing borders to other countries to seek safe havens. Families become separated, herded like cattle, often face continued discrimination, as they await freedom or death, which ever comes first. Sound familiar? It should, this scenario happened again and again to the Jewish population, most recently in WWll. “Never Again,” resounds in our minds as we see history being allowed to repeat itself. When will we ever learn?
    The Fides agency has shared detailed testimony:

    “We are hated because we persist in wanting to exist as Christians”
    This is orchestrated again by the most vile evil that ever existed. Pure and simple Satan. The leftist’s and progressives in the West refer to him as a being of light, the first rebel. What Christians either don’t understand or don’t believe is that Satan is real, and yes he rebelled against God taking 1/3 of the Heavenly hosts with him, when he was cast out of Heaven. Why is it so hard for Christians to believe in Satan? Why is it so hard for Christians in the West to understand what is happening in the world? Quoting a persecuted brother in Christ, “The snake creeps as the West sleeps.” This is so true, even of the western Church. In one fatal swoop the west has created a scenario that has left Christianity extinct in 1/4 of the world. In countries like Syria and Iraq, where Christians have been around spreading the good news of Christ since the time of His death, they are now a statistic—collateral damage in the world of genocide and at risk of total extinction. Not hyperbole nor a conspiracy theory or fabricated propaganda, it’s happening now, a modern-day truth and reality.

    The book of Revelation is exploding in our very time, right before our eyes! And the Western Church cannot see the forest for the trees. Plump and fat on the blessings from God, hands raised in worship, begging blessings from God totally oblivious to the fact that the Gospel of Christ is under attack even in their own respective free countries. So complacent with their freedom of worship, church for many has become a weekly social event. Many are more concerned about meeting for lunch or the potluck picnic after service than worship, the Word and heart of God. If they choose not to act in their complacency, Christianity as they know it may no longer exist. And the Gospel of Christ will be shared in the shadows, underground and in secret. Take heed in the Word of God, “there is nothing new under the sun.” Look back to the early church, what did the Apostles do when they were faced with persecution and a similar extinction? They certainly didn’t hide and shrink from their duties. They finished the race, they spread the love and word of Christ, even died for it, for Him. Does this sound like the church of today?

    In the West Christians are told to keep it to themselves, out of public view. you cannot voice your belief, form opinions on moral Christian values or practice your belief in all facets of life. To do so, you may be called a hater, bigot, or risk a court of law. Many Christian businesses have already been ruined as they dared to say no to the practice of killing innocent unborn children, or no to participating in Homosexual marriages in some form. Many have already lost their jobs and others are told to either conform or lose your job. Some have been discharged from the military for displaying Bible verses!

    And one of the biggest lies of all is told among our Christian communities. And that is ALL religions worship the same God. With the scripture and word of God right in front of them, they boldly proclaim ,”There is more than one way to heaven.” HELLO! The great falling away has begun. Are you ready?????? Ready or not here I come. That is what is resounding from scripture.

    If you don’t understand the words of Jesus in the parable of the Virgins in Matthew 25, now is the time to find out what it means as it is the perfect picture of what the church today looks like!

    Matthew 25: Parable of the Ten Virgins
    The bridegroom was a long time in coming, and they all became drowsy and fell asleep. “At midnight the cry rang out: ‘Here’s the bridegroom! Come out to meet him!’

    WAKE UP! Satan knows his time is short, why can’t the Western Church see that OUR TIME IS SHORT.

    Commentary by C. Refsland

    http://iamnotashamedofthegospelofchrist.com/2015/08/08/quit-spreading-the-gospel-of-christ-or-else-a-new-reality-for-the-world/

    • John,
      Guess what,,,
      I didn’t read a line of it.
      There is no way you can convince me of any more lies. You are a soothsayer and astrologer who is promising something to gullible Christians that will not happen. Not on your timeline.It has already been shown to be false based on simple bible prophecy based on the words of Jesus.
      So we will see in a few weeks if your predictions are correct or not.
      I can’t wait.

      • Jim, actually I don’t listen to your stupid BS and you are off by 50 days.
        If you want to know what some think I suggest for you to visit Aviv Moon Network and read the article on 42 events for September 2015.

        It is enlightening of the mind but remember, all I do is cut, copy, and paste. The articles are written by people like you and then I add my two cents worth such as “in Leo” or cutting one line out of it.
        You see, all I do is cut, copy, and paste and make lists. The actual writers are the people who write it and if I agree with it, I make a copy of it and if I don’t agree with it like I do not agree with 95% of your BS, I do not make a copy of it.

        In the case of that article, you can blame Dr. William Frederick, Lisa Haven and two othe writers who made the list. One was by a guy named sealman who made a list of 27 events and Dr. William frederick made a list of 33 events. Combined was 42 events.
        I did leave off events that are in the past leading up to it. And I do have to make a correction to one for global Agenda 21 becoming Agenda 2030. Michael Snyder blog did a write up on that piece of information. He says the Jubilee is not until 2029 from what he is finding out so for him, Jesus is not due until 2029.
        As for water in America, all waterways are being poisoned by our government so the water that feeds Albuquerque,NM has about 60 or 90 days until Albuquerque runs out of water. So they are not going to make it until you 2031 year.
        Euphrates river is dried up so it is not going to make it to your 2031 date and Nile will be dry by 2017 so it is not going to make it to your 2031 date.
        A major heat wave went above Israel and caused Iran 148 degree temperatures and Iraq also got hit with temperatures above Israel.

        Talk is now that when UN causes Jerusalem to be divided through the pope that America will divide in half up the Mississippi and also at tht division when the global earthquake hits, Yellowstone will pop its lid and you will be 100 feet under water where you live.
        It is ironic that you may only have 50 days to 4 months to live.

        Talk is the events in September are manufactured by the Elite and that the Asteroid may be a nuclear bomb or two and the meteorite storm is minute man missles.
        So that month is definitely watch mode.
        As for your fake planet, you may have to wait until 2016 for its events.

        • So what is the obsession with rivers drying up? Only the Euphrates is mentioned in prophecy and that is an “angelic” event, not weather or drought related, So what does it matter if some rivers around the world dry up in the next 15 years? How does that prove I’m wrong? And you can’t even say for sure that any river will soon dry up.
          And if you really believe the Nile will go dry in 2 years, you do not know earth science. And a Yellowstone eruption would not put America underwater. There has been over a dozen previous eruptions none of which lowered the elevation of the area so that sea water could come in. It is a mile above sea level and each eruption adds more surface material. And a global earthquake would not force Yellowstone to erupt.
          Your problem is that you listen to evangelists who have no science backgrounds. They make claims that sound like they make perfect sense to the average person, but in fact have no basis whatsoever in science. They may have their hearts in the right place but when it comes to the facts, their heads are up their butts.
          And do you know what high global heat causes? Floods. Heat causes evaporation of oceans and Lakes and the water that goes up must come down somewhere. Its called the hydrologic cycle and it is neither magical nor biblical. But is there is a drought somewhere there will be floods elsewhere. So you can pick and choose your disasters. They will never go away on their own, anyway.
          If I seem arrogant it’s only because I’m right. You can’t change the laws of nature any more than you can change the 10 commandments.
          So when you say that things are about to happen that will defy the laws of nature I can immediately reject those predictions.
          Until you decide to learn the facts and continue to rely on YouTube and the unregulated internet for your information you will remain in the dark as to the truth.
          But I suggest you take your head out of the sand once in a while at least for air.

          • Egypt: Dam on Nile river to be completed by mid summer of 2016 (Ezek 30 Prophecy)

            China: King of the East. The road from China to Euphrates River is completed. The telephone lines are dead and will become alive at the time of that war. Old Cracamore Highway, Silica Road?
            What is that war. That war is the Ezekiel 38-39 war.

            • Euphrates River also has a dam on it. Water flowing into the dam from the headwaters of the Euphrates have been trickling down because they are in drought conditions on the upper part of the river. Presently ISIS is in control of the dam after killing people and cut off the supply to the lower parts of the River and the dam is above the road from China. Also what is important in that area is that there is an underground military base in the region stocked full of goodies.
              So if the river is dry enough to travel over from China by 2016, why wait until 2031 for the Ezekiel 38-39 war or 2048. Why not cause it instead in 2016 or 2017.

              For war to occur in Israel from the south and from the north, both the Nile flood plain has to be dry and also the Euphrates river.
              So the suggested timframe would be 2016 or 2017 for the Ezekiel 38-39 war.
              The war that follows that one is Armageddon.
              There is only three wars to come for Israel and that is the Psalm 83 war. Ezekiel 38-39 war (Kings of the North and South War) and Armageddon.

              Tie this in with the Red blood Moons for Israel in September and you have nothing but war going on around Israel to the end which is the Armageddon War.
              Now can you see the Ezekiel 38-39 war going on from 2016 or 2017 until 2031.

              • On top of this, you have a heat wave going over the Euphrates river in the temperature range of 150 degrees and that heat wave is over the Euphrates river into Iran causing them to experience 148 degree temperatures.

                So connect the dots and the Ezekiel war will take place a long time before 2031.
                Presently, the world has 7 buillion people in it. But by 2025, it will have 500 million in it.
                In 2015-2017 timeframe, 281-plus million Americans must die by any means possible and that is going to be done by starvation of food, pestilence, beheadings, and any other means possible.

            • The kings of the east are mentioned in Daniel, not Ezekiel. They attack after the king of the north (E.U.) attacks the middle east (Persia) like a whirlwind. Then China attacks them and then they both attack Jesus after he returns. The Gog war may occur on top of this war. In both cases God smites the enemy with His own hands. The war of the second seal may be yet another war. It is followed by famine and pestilences while Armageddon is stopped by the Second Coming and there won’t be famine or pestilence in the millennium.
              It is a bit confusing but I’m sure we will recognize them when they happen.

              • Jim, for once I agree with you. Keep me informed. I went to a Wednesday night class and the pastor give out a list of who’s who but I have not written it down as of yet but the thing I noticed bout the list was that all the countries in the Ezekiel war was Islamic. Russia is supplying the burnable weapons.

              • king of north is traditionally due north, not uttermost north west

                turkey and assyria in bible

                • The King of the North is identified by Daniel as the feet of the statue. The 10 horns and the “little horn” are other clues. Once you identify these as the nations of Europe and the Vatican the King of the North becomes obvious.
                  Tradition be damned!

                • The Bible calls Nebuchadnezzar the king of the north. Babylon was about east of Jerusalem roughly but he came from the north because of bad mountainous region inbetween.

  117. Has it also never occurred to you that your tenuous interpretations may be false and that the french revolution is not part of Revelations.

  118. John and others,
    Forget about the Euphrates river drying up, it probably won’t happen.
    What the verse most likely refers to an ancient event when the Persian king diverted the Euphrates river so they could pass under the gates of Babylon which were right over the river and used like a moat. By drying up the river upstream the Persian army simple marched into the city right under the mighty gates.
    It is a metaphor for a clever or secret way to reach your enemy. Perhaps the Chinese will use technology such as invisibility cloaks to sneak in. In any case they could lay pontoon bridges in a few hours which would be preferable to trying to cross a deep river gorge which would slow down a long line of vehicles and personnel. Study WW2 and you will see how it was done and without helicopters.
    So don’t bother fretting over the Euphrates river. It will most likely be a non-event.
    We shall see…

    • We may not be alive long enough to see but we shall see. All I know is that someone on Beforeitsnews.com wrote about it and he now lives in Asia. So I copied down the brief paragraph.
      So now I am keeping tabs through BreakingIsraelNews.com to keep tabs with what is happening in Israel.

    • And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared. REv 16;12
      this is future not past history before the time of John

      you need to read revelation more

      • Remember, Jim said he was an authority on Revelation and he knew all about it but his true colors are showing through. Somebody on this site is a historist and will swear that Revelation was filled in the past over these past 2000 years so maybe Armageddon has already occurred at least 3 times over. Me, I personally believe that Rev 16 is yet to come.
        Right now the talk is on the Psalm 83 war starting soon and the Elam war which can occur now or in 2016 (Bill Salas/Silas).

      • I heard this theory from the Shepherds Chapel TV show many years ago. After a ½ hour of lecture it made perfect sense. It may or may not be true though. But John seems to think the sun is supposed to evaporate the river long before the Chinese try to cross it. If it is an act of God then you must assume the river would be so high as to be uncrossable without spiritual intervention. But John says it will dry up on its own soon. So no angel would be necessary. His concept just doesn’t sound logical. I just offered a possible alternative.
        Take it or leave it.

        • Here is David L. Stern’s Jewish Commentary on Revelation 16:12.

          Rev. 16:12. And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up (Isa 11:15), that the way (Isa 41:2) of the kings of the east might be prepared.
          The River Euphrates was the center of the major pagan civilizations that pressed against Israel in Tanakh times, and when Revelation was written it was the center of the Parthian kingdom which continually warred with Rome. Think of the Euphrates as the launching point of attack, whether of angel-mediated judgment (9:14), the kings from the east (v. 12), or the whole inhabited world (v. 14).
          The word kings pictures the leaders of troops. They cross the Euphrates in order to participate in the greatest Mid-East confrontation ever-the Battle of Armageddon! Actually, the conflict is a fight against the Lord and His hosts and will be discussed in detail when we arrive at its explanation point-chapter 19, verses 11-16. Upon their arrival in the Holy Land, these oriental kings or rulers join with the leaders of other nations for the war of wars as predicted in Psalm 2:2-4: The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
          The armies of the nations of the Orient will be aided in their march toward Armageddon by the supernatural drying up of the Euphrates River.
          How near is Armageddon? Bear in mind that both chapters 9 and 16 mention the Euphrates River as a focal point in this war. Keep your eyes on the Mideast-especially Iran, Iraq, and Syria-in the days ahead. The Euphrates was jointly theirs when these nations were called Persia. Thus, Iran, Iraq, and Syria are a prominent identification point for the end-time war.

          Why do I bring it up now is because the heat wave of 148 degrees over the area last week or two weeks ago and because ISIS took control over the river earlier this year.
          Connect the dots and find a common denominator and then you can guess as to when the Ezekiel War should take effect. I suspect it will be before 2025 because 7 buillion people according to the elite must die before 2025. if we wait till 2031 or 2048 for Armageddon there won’t be anyone left except for the elite in the DUMBS to have Armageddon.
          And if you add the heat wave of Revelation Trumpet or vial judgments, you can double if not triple those temperatures.
          So Jim if you have 400 degrees of heat over the Euphrates river for 3 to 6 months, what is going to happen to the water on the river.

          • Jim, I asked the internet how hot would great heat be enough to melt the elements. The temerature range was 500 to 1000 degrees.
            If 500-1000 degrees was applied over the Euphrates River for 3 to 6 months, how long would it take to dry out the river bed?
            You see,the bowl or vial judgments occur before Armageddon, so how long will it take for 500 to 1000 degrees take to dry out a river bed if it is applied for 3 to 6 months?
            You are the mathmatician here and you seem to believe I know nothing about science and hydrology.

            • Well, through an angel, God can dry it in a second. But if you are talking about using heat lamps or furnaces you could never dry out a river because most rivers are fed by springs and streams at their source. For example, if you tried to dry up the Nile at say Giza, you would have to first dry up Lake Victoria and all the rivers that feed it. And all the springs that feed those streams. And you would have to stop all rainfall in the watershed area.
              Or, if there was a dam upstream you could close the inlets and wait for the water to drain out into the Mediterranean.
              This might be done in Iraq if ISIS get back control of one of the upstream dams on the Euphrates.
              Buy if you just applied heat to the surface of the river, it would evaporate some of the surface water in the area of the heat source but for the most part, the river would be unaffected.
              I assume you don’t expect the heat to come from the sun or else in one day all life on the surface would be dead, so we can forget that scenario.
              If you are seriously trying to engineer such an event in your head you really need to give me more detailed specs before I can make an educated guess.
              But I fear you are not up to the task.

              • the river is controlled by turkey…

                if it shuts up the dam so no water flows to syria and Iraq, then the river will be dry.

                this has happened once already, when turkey held back the water due to a general drought condition in turkey , and they wanted the water for themselves

              • Jim, you say you know Revelation but you we can forget the Sun.

                Jim’s words: I assume you don’t expect the heat to come from the sun or else in one day all life on the surface would be dead, so we can forget that scenario.

                Again, the Bible prove’s Jim wrong.

                Revelation 16:8. And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
                Punishment of death by fire was inflicted on such as were guilty of certain forms of unchastity and incest (Lev. 20: 14; 21:9). The burning of captives in war was not unknown among the Jews (2 Sam. 12:31; Jer. 29:22). The bodies of infamous persons who were executed were also sometimes burned (Josh. 7:25; 2 Kings 23:16).
                It is referred to as an emblem of severe trials or misfortunes (Zech. 12:6; Luke 12:49; 1 Cor. 3:13, 15; 1 Pet. 1:7), and of eternal punishment (Matt. 5:22; Mark 9:44; Rev. 14:10; 21:8).

                9. And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not (see v. 11 and 9:21) to give him glory.
                Blasphemy: In the sense of speaking evil of God this word is found in Ps. 74: 18; Isa. 52:5; Rom. 2:24; Rev. 13:1, 6; 16:9, 11, 21. It denotes also any kind of calumny, or evil-speaking, or abuse (1 Kings 21:10; Acts 13:45; 18:6, etc.). Our Lord was accused of blasphemy when he claimed to be the Son of God (Matt. 26:65; comp. Matt. 9:3; Mark 2:7). They who deny his Messiahship blaspheme Jesus (Luke 22:65; John 10:36). Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost (Matt. 12:31, 32; Mark 3:28, 29; Luke 12:10) is regarded by some as a continued and obstinate rejection of the gospel, and hence is an unpardonable sin, simply because as long as a sinner remains in unbelief he voluntarily excludes himself from pardon. Others regard the expression as designating the sin of attributing to the power of Satan those miracles which Christ performed, or generally those works which are the result of the Spirit’s agency.
                The inhabitants of planet earth now experience the greatest heat wave in history. Many of us remember what happened in the South in America during the summer of 1980. Crops were parched and great numbers of people died as temperatures consistently soared over 100 degrees F. Now we see what happens when the sun is out of control. Isaiah predicted this period of time in chapter 24, verses 4-6: The earth mourneth and fadeth away, the world languisheth and fadeth away, the haughty people of the earth do languish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof, because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant. Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.
                The earth becomes so drastically hot during this judgment that God has to alleviate the suffering by shortening the daylight hours. Jesus said in Matthew 24:22, And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. What did He mean? Many scholars have proposed the idea of the Tribulation period being abbreviated, but this is an impossibility because God’s predestined program for the Tribulation totals seven years-or eighty-four months, or exactly 2,520 days. Since the scheduled timetable is already prophesied, not one day can be cut from the program. Verse 2 of chapter 11 mentions 1,260 days as one-half of this period and no one can change God’s plan. Therefore, we must find another explanation.
                Is there a solution? Definitely! God shortens the daylight hours and lengthens the night seasons to keep millions alive. He accomplishes this by darkening the sun, as predicted by His Son, the Lord Jesus Christ: Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened (Matthew 24:29). This statement harmonizes with Revelation 6:12: And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair. God’s method of shortening the daylight hours hinders the sun’s death purge of earth’s inhabitants by reducing the amount of ultraviolet rays bombarding the planet. This act of mercy is for His people, the saved Tribulation saints, for He adds in Matthew 24:22, But for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
                Once again we need to remember that the Church, the elect bride of Christ composed of all those who were born again prior to the Rapture (chapter 4, verse 1), is at home in glory during this time. The earthly group of Tribulation saints presently being discussed constitutes the election of Romans 11:28. They are also referred to as Jacobites, or Israelites, in Romans 11:26. These are Jews. They are not members of the bride of Christ, but rather members of the wife of Jehovah (See Isaiah 42:1, 45:4, 65:9, 22).
                Mankind’s reaction to the scorching with fire takes the form of further rebellion. Instead of repenting and appealing to God who has power to stay the plague (verse 9), the people aim a barrage of four-letter blasphemies at the Almighty. The human heart is exceedingly wicked and callous (see Jeremiah 17:9). Even in the face of such agonizing judgment, repentance, restitution, and reconciliation are the farthest things from men’s minds. Truly, they are hardened sinners.
                Here is the NT’s most cogent description of the normal behavior of hardened sinners. They cursed the name of God … instead of turning from their sins, the result of which would have been to give him glory. Although God had the authority over these plagues, these unbelievers, in their irrationality, instead of entreating the only one who could help them, curse him. They recognize that God controls the plagues but blame him instead of themselves, since, being amoral and materialistic, they see no casual connection between their own sinful behavior and these events as judgment. They remain unrepentant throughout the chapter (see vv. 11