Noise of the Fear

 

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Isaiah 24 describes the coming judgment on earth – the noise, the fear, the pit, and the punishment of the exalted ones.

The description compliments the one from Revelation, and gives some extra insights.

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Curse declared on earth

Isa 24:1 ¶ Behold, the LORD makes the earth empty, and makes it waste, and turns it upside down, and scatters abroad the inhabitants thereof.

Isa 24:6   Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: therefore the inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left.

Joy stops

Isa 24:8   The mirth of tabrets cease, the noise of them that rejoice ends, the joy of the harp ceases.

People shut their homes –“lock down”

Isa 24:10   The city of confusion is broken down: every house is shut up, that no man may come in.

The treacherous take over

Isa 24:16   ……the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously.

The Noise of the Fear, the Pit, and the Snare

Isa 24:18   And it shall come to pass, [that] he who flees from the noise of the fear shall fall into the pit; and he that cometh up out of the midst of the pit shall be taken in the snare: for the windows from on high are open, and the foundations of the earth do shake.

So what is the “noise of the fear?”

Strangely enough, this passage was in the next Chapter of Isaiah

Are people fleeing from aliens, strangers who bring terror? This sounds like what we are dealing with now.

Isa 25:5   Thou shall bring down the noise of aliens, as the heat in a dry place; [even] the heat with the shadow of a cloud: the branch of the terrible ones shall be brought low.

Why are they coming in and out of pits?

Both the heaven and earth are being torn apart.

They run into the pit out of fear, but have to escape back out, as the earth’s foundations are torn apart.

There might actually be something fearful and dangerous IN the pits, where they think they will find safety.

Rev 6:14   And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

Rev 6:15   And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

Earth Shakes, is broken, Reels to and Fro

Isa 24:19   The earth is utterly broken down, the earth is clean dissolved, the earth is moved exceedingly.

Isa 24:20   The earth shall reel to and fro like a drunkard, and shall be removed like a cottage; and the transgression thereof shall be heavy upon it; and it shall fall, and not rise again.

Punishment of the “host of exalted ones”

Notice the exalted ones are on high, and the kings of the earth are on the earth. They are 2 different groups.

Only demonic forces can exist “on high” but are brought down.

Isaiah was aware of demons in high places.

This may also shed some light on who the “aliens” were who caused terror and the “noise of the fear.”

Imagine a host of treacherous demons descending from the sky, to openly invade, terrify, and enslave mankind.

Isa 24:21 ¶ And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the LORD shall punish (1) the host of the high ones [that are] on high, and (2) the kings of the earth upon the earth.

Isa 24:22   And they shall be gathered together, [as] prisoners are gathered in the pit, and shall be shut up in the prison, and after many days shall they be visited.

Sign of the Sun and Moon

This is the same sign that Jesus indicated would end the Tribulation in Matthew 24. It is mentioned again in Rev 6.

Isa 24:23   Then the moon shall be confounded, and the sun ashamed, when the LORD of hosts shall reign in mount Zion, and in Jerusalem, and before his ancients gloriously.

Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Rev 6:12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

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Thoughts

My impression is a lot of this happens all at the same time, at the end of the 6th seal.

The order of the verses is not consecutive.

Revelation describes the escape to the pits and caves as occurring after the tribulation, and at the moment when the wrath of God begins.

Here it seems it occurs before the sun and moon are darkened.

Much will happen quickly.

Once the wrath begins, man will have no more chances to repent. It is over.

My impression is that the “noise of the fear” is the noise of the terrifying aliens or strangers – the exalted ones on high – that come to earth to terrify mankind and enslave it.

 

The time for salvation is now.

Repent of your sins, trust Jesus, and be saved.

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54 Responses to “Noise of the Fear”

  1. Amen.

  2. Are the “aliens” actually Satan and his fallen entourage?

    • maybe…..those that created the fear are either terrifying strangers, or the “host of exalted ones”…..so either human or nonhuman….I left both possibilities open

  3. Isaiah 24-6..Therefore hath the curse devoured the earth, and they that dwell therein are desolate: THE CURSE DEVOURED THE EARTH…That curse is defined in Zech 5-,2,3.And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; .Then said he unto me, This [is] the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off [as] on this side according to it; and every one that sweareth shall be cut off [as] on that side according to it

    The CURSE that goes over the entire earth is a BOOK.. (roll means BOOK OR SCROLL)…
    GALATIANS 1-8…But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

    Jesus warned of this accursed gospel in Matthew 24- 14-15… The gospel of the false prophets and false christs..

  4. Matthew 24 warns of two specific groups that deceive…

    Matthew 24-4,5..And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. ….THESE ARE THE CHRISTIANS WHO HAVE walked after the lying cults that have crept into Christianity…JW’s, black liberation theology, mormons, etc..

    Matthew 24-11…And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. These are the muslims who say the Koran is the word of god.. That is what false prophets do…They claim the imposters words are gods words…

    Both mormons and muslims think an angel gave them words from God…Paul warned of both men and angels bringing a false gospel in Gal 1-8,9. PAUL ALSO SAYS BOTH GROUPS ARE accursed…

    As I see it the Christian cults are the tares gorwing up together with the wheat till the days of harvest.. These will then be removed by the reapers and placed in the fire.. That fire is ISlam…Refer to Ezekiel… He proved his god was the real god by fire coming down from Heaven.. The false prophets earth beast (muslims) of Rev 13-13,14 actually cause fire to come down from Heaven..This means they are able to prove their allah is god and deceive many…..

    God is a consuming fire….The beast false prophets convince some he is a consuming fire, meaning he is god.. hence rev 13-13,14..

    THIS IS THE DESOLATION AND THE CURSE…

  5. sorry I almost wrote book…!!!!…lol

  6. I wonder,

    If God comes down to earth, WHO remains in Heaven?

    Isn’t the heaven the place where one lives WITH Christ, and hell where one lives (?) WITHOUT Christ?

    If so, why earth looks pretty much like hell when God comes down?

    The clue is to be found in Isaiah 40:26
    “Lift up your eyes on high, and see who created all this,”

    and Hab. 3
    “…and I tremble where I stand; that I should wait for the day of trouble, when he cometh up against the people that he invadeth.

    17 For though the fig-tree shall not blossom, neither shall fruit be in the vines; the labour of the olive shall fail, and the fields shall yield no food; the flock shall be cut off from the fold, and there shall be no herd in the stalls;

    18 Yet I will rejoice in the LORD, I will exult in the God of my salvation.

    19 God, the Lord, is my strength, and He maketh my feet like hinds’ feet, and He maketh me to walk upon my high places. For the Leader. With my string-music.”

    when see abomination of desolation…stand in the holy place…flee to the mountains…

  7. Once Christ takes his Church out of earth, we may see this lie. Lucifer will try and mislead the humans remaining the Christ is arriving. A lot of people will believe this lie. I do not think it means enslaved, but in a way those left will have to accept the Anti-Christ who rules, or be hunted/murdered.

    The earth should see Enoch, and Eliega(sp) preaching at this time.

  8. I am most of the way thru the “Book of Enoch with Commentary” by Rev. John D Ladd , and the amazing stuff God showed Enoch which he shared first with Methuselah, then his whole family, is awe inspiring. The description of the judgment of angels who left their first estate as Jude put it, judgment of the sinners, and saints were well worth the price of the book. The fear factor that Enoch experienced in his awe, before being strengthened by God, by Michael, and even by Jesus was such that anyone could relate to how it would feel being in his shoes.This book, is a strong motivator to righteous living.

    • Hi Paul

      I love that book. I have a copy and the introduction is by Amy McCracken, who provides notes as well. A good read for everyone.

  9. People are getting saved out of Hinduism and Islam. The meaning of the Cross is a brilliant light to their souls and when they believe they are becoming mighty women and men of the LORE GOD.
    Pray for the SPIRIT to blanket all the nations of the earth and that HE will give visions and dreams where there is no Christian witness or preacher or Bible.

    • Dear Rev Berrian

      I agree. The most committed Christians I have seen have come out of religions where they had to face persecution to change their faith. They are a great asset to the gospel, have powerful testimonies, and can be invaluable in reaching others in their former religion.

      • And believe it or not, changing your religion from Baptist to anything else is even looked down upon. True, they won’t behead me or try to kill me but your as good as a “trader” in their eyes just by the way they treat you or silently roll their eyes and sigh! I was taught to believe that all catholics were going to hell and in elementary school, having met a few classmates who were catholic, I felt so sorry for them…:) Religion is horrible in my eyes based upon my experience. It can do alot of damage-but of course nothing that Jesus can’t undo.

  10. Well, I have a slightly different take on all the doom and gloom thoughts out there. One thing people seem to also always FORGET, is that WE HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE IT ALL…and through our devotion to God, prayers on behalf of ALL the world, it can happen too!
    Just as the Hopi also have given to us, we have the choice of two paths, one where man can wake up and listen to the ‘birth pains’ of mother earth, and take heed in our responsibility of our earth, or the other path leading to our own losses and hardships.
    When God comes to earth, BOTH Heaven and earth are combined…there will be NO veil between the living and the dead, (and indeed, there is no division when God speaks to man through the ages, now is there?) as a new age of peace and even knowing those who have gone before us will no longer need to be kept from those who are mortal, as they then will be living a higher law of God, just as the new laws were given to man to END the Mosaic law, into the higher law of Jesus Christ.(they eye for an eye, to turn the other cheek for an example) There were also more than the original 10 commandments, but, man at that time was not ready for those, Jesus brought those to us during his mission here on earth.
    Another thought to think about, is that many will go home to God to aid in the transformation of our earth. The children of God are many…where do you think Angels come from? They are also his children, just as we are! And, they are active doing work on the other side for man here on earth. WE are NOT alone! Never have been!
    Our earth has been in peril many times before, and through the prayers of man, God has aided in our continuance here, and so it will also be during this next wave of transformation and change on our planet.
    Yes, it will NOT be an easy time, but, those who turn away from the WORLD, and turn to GOD, will have the way opened to them..that is the whole idea…man will know WHO is GOD, and thus be able to move forward in HIS word, not that of man.

    I find it also interesting that many Native people have held this belief to be true also, and after all, there is nothing to fear in death, only in our actions in life and how we treat one another. There is no death, only the stepping into our natural eternal home, which is not that of mortality. They have always honored the earth, and have often called themselves, even now..KEEPERS of the keys to mother earth and her balance with man–as it had been a gift of the Creator for them to do that particular mission…and, they will be there in these difficult times ahead. Even now, many are preparing for doing just that very thing. Healing our world with the aid of “Father Creator.”
    Life is our time of education in a way that serves us for our eternal good. Our time of testing.

    Also, as per the 7th seal…we are already in it! The 6th ended some time ago…and to the point…if you did not hear it for sure on Sept 11, you were not listening! That was the final stroke of the hour INTO the 7th seal!

    There is much hope for humanity. I think there were hero’s all around us, and they will show up again when it all will seem to fall apart! I think we need to take these people into consideration when giving out all the doom thinking…the negativity of it alone is fueling MORE unhappiness and FEAR..and FEAR is the mind killer, not to mention the TOOL OF SATAN!
    SO, do we give into fear for the sake of fear, or, do we fight with the faith in God and HIS promises that WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE even right were we live, on our street, one family at a time?
    I have hope of the good in the regular person out there. There are many more of them praying than you may think, and, they want what we all want…peace and to live without the world power which is governed by greed, ego, and lust of power and money.
    Go figure…nothing has changed has it??

    But, the earth can and will only take so much of our misuse of her, and that we will have to clean up and be far more accountable for….and she will show us in hard terms soon enough, just as she has for other civilizations past. We are NOT the only ones to know complete devastation of peoples….now are we? Think about it!
    Only God knows the plan, and we are here to do our best as stewards of this planet. IN our blindness, we do much damage to each other. When we really learn the lessons of “love one another’….there will be no need of such sufferings, wars or famine, for we will then not allow it to happen if we can at all help it.

    If we do our part, God is bound to do HIS…that has always been his eternal promise to us. Honor that, and the world will pass away only when it is time for it to do so, and in ways that only God will create and control,not man.

    Perhaps that is the lesson to learn. God IS in control, we are not! The sooner we realize that, the sooner we can get on with a better way for all man to live on this planet.

    When God comes, he will be the governor of all, and the balance here will be made perfect. Heaven is not going to be lost at all! But also involved! Something which man has only hints at all these millennial. And hey, where do you think all those who rose from the dead before (like during Christ resurrection) went to for heck sakes??? They also spoke with man here, and went with God into the Heavens. Are we so separated then from each other? Hardly!!!

    We are all Gods children, here to learn valuable lessons. We either listen or we don’t, and pay for our mistakes one way or the other….but, God has also said he will NOT loose ONE of his lambs….and that is what I believe to be so. If you love your children so well, who are you in compared to the love that God has for each one of us? His love is perfect…we are still learning that one..and have a very LONG way to go to get there yet!LOL

    It is more than time to stop the fear factor, and start the PRAYER factor!
    As Avorl Looking Horse has said…it is time to pray to our Creator, for our children who are dying because they have no faith in being here, or their missions here on earth! It is time for ALL men of faith to pray, so that we can change the negative tides into the positive and begin to heal our earth, people, with God.

    Amen….! May we stop the fear of the opposition, and work with the promises and hope that God gave to us from the very first light dawn broke upon the waters of this globe> Amen.

    • hi fvgibson

      Like the native Indians you mention, you have a lot of natural wisdom. I hope many read your comment. God bless you.

    • I agree with Leatherneck in that I don’t see “doom and gloom”. I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of our King of kings and Lord of lords…I do hate that so many people will perish who didn’t heed His words or the witness/testimony of His children…but I continue to look up and await my beloved. As far as “we have the power to change it”…this is not true, for even pharoah’s heart was harden “fot this very purpose” and that was to show G-Ds Power and control over the situation! Because G-D declared the end from the beginning and vice versa, all of this has been presdestined! Our leaders, from the beginning of time, were already known and seen by G-D. WE can’t change a thing-all we can do is ” observe with our eyes and see the punishment of the wicked” Psalm 91.

      • And regarding our leaders, I have to say that the HS has been dealing with me on my personal and public opinions of Obama. I have posted many times that he is an idiot-I do still think that-but what the HS has reminded me of, as I wrote above, is that “pharoahs heart was hardened for this purpose”…Obama’s heart has been hardened…he is playing the role that G-D has set forth for him in order to bring about what was already foretold. Yes, I still think he is an idiot and I get so fired up everytime he insults Israel or changes yet another law to fit his socialist muslim point of view…however, G-d has put him in this position and perhaps I should remain silent and continue to observe privately.

        Definition of Idiot: foolish and offensive behavior

  11. There is no such thing as mother earth.

    Evil men have harmed this planet. That is a fact. However, earth does not feel anything.

    All religions are not the same. All religions except Christianty tries to get to Heaven through works. Only in Christ does a human make it to Heaven through faith in G-d’s love. Full stop.

    I don’t know what you have been reading fvgibson, but no doom, and gloom has been written for G-d Church. It has been written for the Pagan religions, and faithless who do evil.

    The Bible is good for reading, and thinking about.

  12. Is so true. In the days of Amos a famine came on the land. This famine was not for lack of water, but lack of God’s word. Let us also remember there is a time also in the last days when it shall not rain on the earth for 3 1/2 years. Another famine. And also for the word of God. More and more the saints of Christ feel the incroachment of the godless around us. The earth is full of vulgarness, and all the sins of sodom. Man will destroy himself if God does not cut these days short.

  13. Alot of noise and fear going on in Zephaniah! Now that’s a book you read with the lights on!!

  14. Science is now proving the Ancient writings!!

    “•What does ‘the sky receded as a scroll when it is rolled up’ mean? When there is a sudden geologic/crustal pole shift, the sky will appear to recede and ‘roll up’. Imagine the earth’s poles suddenly shifting 3,000 km in a day, this will cause immense weather changes. The sky and clouds will appear to scroll and roll up away from you..”
    http://socioecohistory.wordpress.com/2010/04/06/jason-martell-planet-x-lecture/

  15. http://bible.cc/isaiah/25-5.htm
    Refers to strangers or foreigners. Which version uses the word aliens?
    IMHO aliens are demons. No alien has ever made a man believe in God 😦
    peace and love

    • hi abraxas

      You are thinking of the modern concept of aliens, which is all over our movies and media. Aliens means strangers or foreigners.

      But demons are also strangers, and foreign to us. I just suggested the definition here because Isaiah is also describing the “exalted Host of heaven” that will be defeated by God. This sounds like demons to me, not people.

  16. I personally believe that the “demons” are the spirits of the hybrids of Gen 6 / Enoch 6, that have been doomed to roam the earth til their day comes for judgment and the abyss – as the Legion in the Gadarene maniac were well aware when talking to Jesus. They were once embodied and seek to be ever since God disembodied them via the flood, and via the Israelites under Joshua.
    To differentiate,Lucifer and those of the first rebellion, were all angels – not hybrids – Semjaza and Azazel etc, from the second rebellion were also angels but they sired angelic/human hybrids (amongst many other things they did in violating God’s plan when they left their first estate). Of course more hybrids were bred after the flood destroyed the first generation of “titans” – hence Og of Bashan, Goliath & his 5 brothers, etc.
    I believe along with Pastor Lynn Marzulli, Pastor Lindsey Wiliiams & more, that the “aliens” and ufo sightings are a manifestation of both fallen angels shape shifting, and / or more hybrids they are making (ie when people are abducted they have ovum and semen, as well as other bodily fluids, harvested by the aliens.

  17. “Be strong in the Lord and in the power of His might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places.

    http://www.crossroad.to/Victory/Armor.htm

    If these statement is true why do something always claim to be absolute(?) in reality we are the ones who come up with our own ideas and interact with each other. Allowing us to learn that every reaction is based according to our ability and experience to respond.

    I bear necessity in humility for all of us are in war against our own necessity. I believe that it is our own lust for power that enables our emotion to react according to the ability of our experiences because as we grow old we gain glory. This is why I believe that EMOTIONS are the key to morality and it is in our own ideas we are at war. One should take care of the mind same as taking care of the body…for when it is like praying, meditation and concentration. Certain monks nowadays likely can inspire Christians how to pray.

    The bible is our ultimate guide for salvation. Nothing will come up if we always gain understanding in opposing higher positions.
    Regarding beliefs, all are called to belong not just believe.

  18. James Redfield in his Celestine Prophecy book 2. Says there is a force building up in the Earth called The Fear. Made of thoughtforms, masses of energy, we create with our own spirits from violence and fear.

    • hi Solomon,

      Fear is a lack of faith and love.

      Perfect (divine) love casts out all fear.

      So, those who have God in their lives have no reason to fear.

      Those who lack God and his love turn violent.

      They trust violence, not God, to solve their problems.

  19. I think we have choice as we also always have had on this earth. When we choose to FEAR…we also choose to not move in faith, and thus we are then allowing Satan to rule our lives, not God.
    God is not of fear. If fear is created, it is simply not of God!
    So what is then the simple solution?
    Do NOT fear.
    It is the mind killer.
    It is what attracts the negative forces around us.
    When you don’t fall into this trap, you also leave other negative forces behind.
    2012 has been another huge ‘fear feeding factor’ out there.
    Will the earth end? Of course not!
    The earth has passed through many challenges, and our times are just one more.
    Will God destroy all that he has created? No. But, he will let us learn lessons the hard way if we insist upon it!
    So choose NOT to fear!
    Built up LOVE, Hope, compassion, caring, doing actions of good to those around you. It heals many wounds, including those of addiction, and of past harms to generations gone by.
    Love is the key to our existence here in the first place.
    Hate is the tool of the opposition.
    All things of negativity are.
    Period.
    So what is the argument then?
    Scriptures tell us one thing repeatedly.
    We have the choices NOT TO CHOOSE hardship! But we will live in them if we keep turning away from one simple truth that God gave us.
    It is up to our personal choices what to give our energy and power over to! Nothing more or less than that.
    If we spent as much time to find positive solutions, we would not even see war on our screens!
    We suffer here to learn the lessons to build up our spirits in preparation of all that will be in the eternities. We learn the fastest in hardships, but that does not mean we need to wallow in them either.
    We are supposed to learn from them, and not repeat them.
    We have the power to change our lives each day.
    We have the power to create good not evil.
    We have the power to rise up and change the world without wars to do it in.
    I mean, mother Theresa is/was not the only example out there for heck sakes!
    You and I are also a part of the equation!
    It is up to us what media we choose to follow,and believe in.
    Even the scriptures are being used to create fear.
    They were written to show us that Satan will be out in full force in these times. So, what are we then going to do about it?
    Follow him instead?
    No me!
    God had said often, nothing is written in the stone! WE are the ones to make the choices of loving each other, or not.
    When we choose the opposite, that is also what we sew!
    When we walk after Gods teachings, then that is also what we will sew!

    Lets CHOOSE NOT TO LISTEN to those who send out fear into our world! Listen instead to the teachings of the Sermon on the mountain. It is all there, outlined in simple steps. And He gave them for all the world, for today as well, and beyond.

    The greatest key of all here, is TO LOVE ONE ANOTHER.
    It is the key to peace, prosperity, cures of diseases,(even non believes have discovered that love and prayer CURES) and yes, a new world where God is on the thrown of man, not those of Satan who desire us to shiver in our boots because of their words and works. Do we feed the fire, or not?
    Time to change the record if you ask me.
    IN my OHO.
    Peace, Love, hope, pray.
    In Jesus, it is the only way, truth and light.
    I wonder why those words were used in the first place?
    Maybe because it really is the key to all that we can be both here and in Heaven. What need we fear of Him?
    I sure do not!!:))

    Much love and blessings to all!
    Vicki K.

  20. Yes, may G-d protect you from MS-13 gang bangers, and terrorists who rape, and murder. Those are whom I fear.

    It is human to fear, but it takes a strong person to understand their fear, and control it. My fear hightens my ability to win.

    I only pray to G-d the Father in Christ’s name, he calms my beathing so I can place a round center mass when my family, and friends are in danger.

    There is no second place in this world when it comes to those who do the work of Lucifer. Second place is first loser, and anyone who tells you they are not afraid to face the enemy is not a normal human.

    Where is it written fear is not of G-d? G-d gave us fear when we need it the most. I had a lot of fear when I drove off the road this morning. It took me 30min to calm down.

    Good luck never having fear.

  21. I feel the “locusts’ that are let out of the Pit in Revelation are the thoughtforms, masses of energy we create through violence and fear. They will have the power to hurt our bodies. But not kill us. Though some will die from fright when they see them. They must be released for our planet to heal. They will not be able to hurt those who are brave and protected by God.

  22. video being discussed over at

    http://believersjourney.blogspot.com/2011/03/mysterious-noise-from-sky.html?showComment=1301921944398#comment-c3247371109856913890

  23. The Cassini spacecraft has been detecting intense radio emissions from the planet Saturn. They come from the planet’s aurorae, where magnetic field lines thread the polar regions. These signals have been shifted into the range of human hearing and compressed in time.

    source

    http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/multimedia/pia07966.html

  24. James Redfield says in his Celestine Prophecy books, that there is a force building up in the Earth known as The Fear. Isaiah 24:18 KJV. Made of negative energies we create. Isaiah 24 seems to refer to what they call the shift of the Earth’s axis. Such an event would create an explosion of energy I feel. That would reach into other dimensions and open the doors to them. And an influx, or backdraft of energy. Pulling things from there to us.

    • hi Solomon

      I guess it all reduces down to energy. Wind is energy. Electricity is energy. Magnetism is energy. THunder and lightening is light and sound and energy. The aurora borealis – northern lights – is energy and it has a sound. Normally we do not hear the sounds of energy unless it is in excess, or it is redistributing, or out of balance, like during a storm.

  25. I am in fear and I know I shouldn’t be, but though I believe in Jesus I’m still in fear alot and afraid of the future! I know I am not right but I’m having trouble getting there, I don’t know what to do, I try and pray but I fall out sometimes and I need help, need guidance, need great people like yourselves to talk to! I need a helping hand because I cannot reach Jesus alone!

    I’m terrified of this may 21st thing as well, people are saying this and that, and I know in the bible it says no man can predict the day nor the hour, but something still worries me about this day, and normally I blow the false accusations off but this one still bothers me! With people saying God will take his people up and away on this day and if you are still here you are doomed for Hell and what not and it still worries me because I don’t know what to believe and I’m not close enough to Jesus to hear the truth in my heart! Any one can give word it would be awesome!

    Also not sure what to do with my life, I moved across the country and not sure where to take myself or where my life will lead to once God handles it all, and not sure if I can get my wife to follow!

    I need just some one to talk to daily, some love, help, advice, guidance and word from God!

    Also this sun going down at noon worries me as well because I’m afraid if i see it I am doomed as well and there is going to be wrath for me! I’m afraid of alot of things and I know time is running out but I’m so stuck in my ways I’m having trouble getting out! I want to hear the voice of the father and son in my life but imhaving trouble finding it!

    I’ve been told to pray but I’m not much of an emotional person so I don’t know how to pray from my heart with sincerity and meaning and such, but at the same
    Time I hope He hears me… I just need help! I wantto feel the love and word of God!

    Quick story.. Since I left the US I wonder if God is directing me on His path?! Because the US is going downhill and the place I once lived, in LA and AL are being destroyed.. So I wonder if me moving across the world is his doing and he wants to keep me alive for a better purpose or was it luck that I got away from the US?!

    • serilei
      Many so called predictions have come and gone for the Lord’s return. The best we can do is to be ready for when it does occur.
      Any one who claims to know the day and the hour is probably wrong. Not even Jesus knows this, Only God the Father.
      Suffice it to say, by the inquiry you made, the Lord is using this time to make you ready for his return. You sound like one who has been involved in a church at some point in your life, but have drifted away. Your concern regarding the endtimes shows me that you believe God, But your faith is not where it should be.
      If you had a conversion in the past, the Lord has never left, only sin has separated you from God and being in communion with him. The prayer that i pray, and in my opinion one of the most powerful prayers in the bible is psalm 139:23-24. “Search me, O God, and know my heart! Try me and know my thoughts! 24. And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.” The Lord will respond to this prayer, and he will “try” you. It will lead to discipline, and to heartache, but it will also confront the sin that is in you that is keeping you apart from God, and his Love. Once you realize the sin repent and confess that sin to those you have harmed by it. The Lord, through his Grace, and the work of the Holy Spirit will then begin to change your heart, and mind, and bring you back to that relationship with Christ.

      If you are unsure of your salvation, you will have to give us more info on your religious background, and conversion. we may be able to guide you a little more.

      As for the end being May 21st, well, that is the first I have heard of this theory. I know we are in the waning days, and we could be called at any time. Obviously this prophecy may be in error, but it has led you to search for the truth in these matters. Now is the best time to work out your faith with Fear and trembling, not tommorrow, or next week. The Lord has led you here for a reason, and I am sure he will lead you to what you are seeking as well. God bless.

    • dear serilei

      I seriously doubt May 21 of this year, although Spring would be a good time for a rapture. I do think that the world is rapidly changing by the day, and the time is “now” for things to start happening.

      No location will protect anyone. God may judge America, now that Japan has been judged. Or he may judge another country or group of countries first, before us.

      Christians will go through trials and hardships, no matter where they are.

      you can come here for fellowship. There are people here every day. Just join in the discussions, or start your own.

      If the sun goes down at noon, it is only a sign. It will return the next day or the next few days.

      I understand the fear, but you do not have to feel that way. It sounds like you never had the assurance of salvation, if you are saved.

      This is probably the easiest thing to have, as well. You do not need anyone to bring you to Jesus. He is already right there beside you. All you have to do is repent of any sins ( make sure you know what ARE sins – be educated), ask for forgiveness, and then ask him into your heart to stay. He will do this.

      The holy spirit is prompting you now to do this, which is why you are here on this site asking for help.

      Just focus on this and then accept the peace the Lord gives. Many resist this out of guilt or a lack of understanding.

      Just relax and love Jesus.

      Whatever happens is out of our control anyhow. So we just trust him, and ask for his favor and protection, and guidance through any upcoming problems.

    • Stay calm, and keep praying. Make sure you mean it when you say your prayers to G-d the Father in Christ’s name. Sometimes, G-d will answer quickly, and sometimes it takes years.

      I am always taking two, or three steps forward, and one step back. It is because I am weak, but my spirit is strong.

      Be calm, and read the Bible. Say your prayers everyday. You will never be perfect, but you will change.

      Good luck, and G-d’s speed to you serilei.

  26. The only way to overcome doubt and fear, is through personal spiritual experience. Our eyes and ears being “waxed” over. Our body having natural defenses that block out too much sight and sound, to keep us from having a sensory overload, and nervous breakdown.
    Just like when we walk in a room and smell something bad. And a minute later, we don’t smell it any more. But the smell is still there.
    So we need to “retrain” our senses to discern spiritually. Hebrews
    5:12-14. The 6th Sense. Being all our senses working at the spiritual level.
    A simple technique of finding a spot somewhere, and focusing your eyes on that spot. Eyes wide open, so no suspicion can creep in. Blink naturally, don’t strain. Will help you to see the Light is around, and in all things.
    This will set us on the road to overcoming doubt.That we really are a powerful spiritual being. That keeps living when the body ceases to function.
    The rest is easy. Our spirits came from Heaven, and when our body ceases to function, it returns there. Only by refusing it for some reason. (Fear, unbelief, guilt, contempt of God). Does this not happen. Because we are making a choice to not go.
    Jesus The Christ said he was going to prepare a place for us. And where he was going. “WE KNOW THE WAY!” John 14:4.

  27. Dru

    As far as religion goes I’m not sure what I believe, I really disprove religion actually because I know that is not how Jesus intended it to be, and that it is all man made, and one religion saying this and that, and the other religion is wrong etc.. Is not how it was intended!

    I think Jesus was a Christian and some people confuse that up with religion! I believe the word Christion is a title when you fall in with God and Jesus! Like at work being a Boss or an Associate, or CEO!

    But as far as religion I don’t have one!

    And I am not sure what to believe about churches either since alot are based upon a religion and never knowing what church is right! But at the same time I think churches hide the word of God from people, walls are just being put up and to alot of people think a church is a symbol to some as love hope and salvation while for some they see a building a vow to stay away!

    As far as I am concerned Jesus preached to the open, rain snow sunshine or whatever! No one had to attend a building every Sunday you know?!
    So I am not sure where to go on this topic!

    You know what got me into this whole religion thing and About church?!

    Many of you ever heard of the band called Korn?! And they had a guitarist who left his name was Head and he kicked drugs and everything?! He is what really got me into thought and being a bit more productive about Jesus! And wondering about religion and such!

    I know many of you might not like metal but for me please take a listen to his testimonies and a few songs of his!

    Head: I am Second

    Head: Testimony pt 1

    Head: Testimony Pt. 2

    Head: Testimony Pt 3

    ———————–

    Head: Die Religion Die

    Head: Washed By Blood

    Head: Shake

    Head: Adonai

    ——————————-

    Head really reminds me what is important and to try and keep up with Jesus, Head is going 6 years strong with Jesus, gives alot of people hope and strength

    He has 2 books as well, which are really really good and inspirational read!

    Save Me From Myself EBook, I have uploaded it if anyone wants to read, and if you like, support!

    http://www.megaupload.com/?d=QO2Q4YSB

    I cannot currently get ahold of the “40 Days of Metal and Spirituality” ebook, but when I do I will post it!

    • Serilei
      We are not asking you, or anyone to join a church, what matters is your faith, and relationship with God. It is not the church as an institution of man that saves you, but the grace of God. We CANNOT receive his grace unless we repent. To most in the churches, repentence is pleading for forgiveness. Repentence, however, starts with us acknowledging that nothing that we can do (all our works) cannot make us worthy of salvation. Salvation then is a something we get from God, (a Gift) not something we earn (deserve). The only thing we humans deserve is death. Going to church is not a requirement for salvation. Belief is the other requirement of salvation. Believe on the Lord Jesus, that is his divinity (he is God in Human form), and that his shed blood was the only sacrifice that could cleanse us of our sin, and that he took the punishment for our sins on the cross, dying in our place.
      And that he rose again, revealing to us that his sacrifice on the cross was accepted as sufficient.

      If this is what your conversion entailed, Then know that you are saved, and a son and heir with Christ. After we are saved, we still fall into the trap of sin and the devil. These sins, are a remnant of our fallen “flesh” that we must deal with, till we receive our new bodies. This is the process of sanctification. Some people have drastic changes in their lives upon conversion, as is the case with Head. For others, it comes slower. We let sin creep in, and our pride tells us its no big thing, and slowly, we lose sight of the cross, and our conversion. Repenting and confessing those sins, will bring your gaze back to the cross, back to the fact that all your sins are forgiven. Past, present, and future, because Christ’s sacrifice was sufficient for all sin. It is only when we see his suffering on the cross, and his love for us (the undeserving) that we begin to Love Him. That is where the joy and assurance come into our lives. That is when we begin to have a relationship with him. We do not obey the law because we are ordered to do so, but because our love for him leads us to want to obey. This is what it means that the Law will be written in our hearts. This is faith at work, not legalism, because legalism wants to give us credit, whereas faith gives all the credit to the cross, and God.

      Much like you, I have been unchurched most of my adult life, though I was raised in a church. Your distrust of these institutions are not misplaced. The Church is not some building, or some denomination, but rather where 2 or 3 are gathered in his name. The churches nowadays are more concerned with entertaining and maintaining their status, than leading their flock. There are some exceptions to this though, and it is not for me to dictate which ones. It is only in the past year that I have found a church, though I am reluctant to get “involved” because of my past experiences with churches. Going to church has been an edifying experience for me, and has brought me closer to God. But if you are not ready for this, then do not force yourself out of legalism to do so. Instead, try to find several people you can talk openly about your faith to. Build each other up in Christ, and challenge each other to deal with the sin in your lives. Start a Bible study, or just get together and talk over dinner, or what have you. This too is going to “church”. Ultimately, things like communion and Baptism will require some sort of church setting. These things, viewed properly, will edify you in your spiritual life.

      BTW I was a moderate fan of Korn, though they were a bit after my time, when I was “into” that. May God bless you and lead you to the cross. If you are not saved, the cross will save, if you are saved, then returning to the cross will help in your growth, as it has mine.

      • I realize I am not asked to join, but I just wasnt sure on what to think about it lately, and even like you said, alot of it is focused on keeping its mass entertained, which makes it harder to wonder if you should attempt at joining! But While it has its ups and downs, churches are good places to be surrounded by people who believe in jesus as well, because the more people you are surrounded by the better you feel about being happy and saved and its a bit harder to fall out of the bind with Christ, although it can happen to anyone, its just easier to be in tune with Christ and live a better life with people in christ around you!

        Ive been to plenty of churches in my life, Baptist, Catholic, Christian, non Denominational and what not, but not sure what feels right, because like I was saying, Im not so far for Religion, but it is hard when you join a church who tries to convert your religion, and when you dont have one you are kinda looked down upon..

        I do believe in God and Christ, I know they exist but just arent present to us, because humans as a civilization have grown too dead, and so caught up in the world, and technology and such, the presence as a human form is not needed, only spirit to dwell inside of us! I am just ready to hear the word from Christ, I want to hear it in my head and my heart, and be able to respond, I want to know what salvation and love feels like, I feel too dead sometimes in life, and quite lost, but I know god is leading me on a path and i am following his will without knowing it, I just dont want my will to end up in death, it is kind of scary, because he knows how your life will turn out already, and knows if you are heaven or hell bound, but the thing is, I dont know how my life will end up and where I will be, and it is scary to be honest..

        As forementioned, I believe, and while I am on this site I read alot of the scriptures here, and I know I am lead to read them for a reason, as we all know the Spirit works in mysterious ways!! but at the same time, I am still caught up in my sin, but Ive been trying to work against my bad themes in life, like cursing, and what not, and there are some things i am not sure of or if it is right, and alot of attachments i need to let go of!

        A thing or 2, I am here on this site and on the internet, because I really have no one else to talk to about it, I moved from the US to Russia to be with my wife, and no one here really speaks English period, so really, going out to places and eat and chat, isnt much of an option, and as said, which is why I look to the internet, to talk to people much like yourselves here! makes me feel better!

        Anyone else is more than welcome to join in on the topic 🙂

        • dear serilei

          What counts is your personal relationship with God, not a church. Seek God with your heart, and you will find him.

        • Serilei
          For me personally in my struggles with the flesh (sin), I was continually trying to overcome them, but then would succumb to them again. It was not until I “gave up” trying, and Put the burden that I was carrying on the “cross”, That the Lord relieved me of that burden. Whatever your sin is, The Lord Jesus has already paid the price for it. He does not want you to carry that burden, yet we in our stubborness cannot let Go and submit our burden to him, Because we see it as a sign of weekness. In fact, this is what the Lord wants is our weekness, and our admission that we cannot do it ourselves, or our repentence. Once we “let go” we let God do his work in our lives, through his Holy Spirit.

          It is not an easy process, and the Lord will Discipline you as a Father disciplines his son. But through his discipline he will show you his Love, by not just giving you self control over the sin, but victory over sin and the flesh. You yourself will not be able to take credit for it, for it is his work in you, and this is what he desires, that we glorify Him and not ourselves.

          In other words, there are two ways to overcome sin. One is self control, which leads to the sin of pride, and more sin, the other is Submission to God and his authority, which leads to victory over sin and humility, and a heart that is pure.

          We humans resist submission, for we see it as equating with bondage, But submitting to God is the most liberating thing we can do, for his yoke is light.

          My prayers are with you, God bless.

        • Serilei
          After making the comments to you above, the Lord led me to these verses, which seem to pertain to the discussion. Revalation 3:19-20 “Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. 20. Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and Opens the door, I will come into him and eat with him and he with me.”

          The Lord is by your side, and knocking. He will come in and eat with you, if you have no one else around you. All we have to do is “open the door”.

  28. interesting

  29. I agree 100%…the Holy Spirit has been enlightening me on many things over the last months. I actually recently read about what God meant when he said “as in the days of Noah” is what it will be like when he returns. And …these shapeshifter/whater you want to call them…are real. I spoke to Marianne this evening on how in the last year the Holy Spirit has literally been answering my questions by moving in my belly and will answer my questions by the way he moves in me ( weird but true) and when I recently read on these things I asked him…Lord are they real..and he said YES…YES AND YES.

  30. Well, as you read in scripture, the holy ghost will burn like a fire…so that we can know what is the truth! When we burn…that fire is a testimony of God and his truth, or to warn us of harm that can come to us. It centers into our chest area around the heart etc, but of course is not like a heart attack but like a enlightenment flooding feeling, a burning desire of spirit.etc..but it is also different for everyone who has this happen to them. Anyway, the thing is to pray often to be in touch with the holy spirit of God so that we can be OPEN to his teaching and will, and guidance in this difficult time. He will never ask us to do more than we are capable of, and we often underestimate our own abilities..go figure , eh?
    So, I am working on talking to God more and then working on being open to listen for his reply..that still small voice that will direct my path each day. I pray the same for all of you too, so don’t give up, stay the course, all is well under the Love of Gods way, truth and light! Thank goodness!!:)

    Blessing,
    Vicki

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