Priests for Pay

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God’s historical view on pay for priests

Notice the “prophets” are criticized also:

8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the Lord, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.

9 Hear this, I pray you, ye heads of the house of Jacob, and princes of the house of Israel, that abhor judgment, and pervert all equity.

10 They build up Zion with blood, and Jerusalem with iniquity.

11 The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the Lord, and say, Is not the Lord among us? none evil can come upon us.

Micah 3: 8-11

How many sheep have been expected to give offerings after a “prophet” gave a service or “gave a Word” to someone?

Many denominations are like this.

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Micah 3 addresses the evil leaders in Israel.

They hate god and love evil.

They are after everything the people have:

2 Who hate the good, and love the evil; who pluck off their skin from off them, and their flesh from off their bones;

3 Who also eat the flesh of my people, and flay their skin from off them; and they break their bones, and chop them in pieces, as for the pot, and as flesh within the caldron.

4 Then shall they cry unto the Lord, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.

5 Thus says the Lord concerning the prophets that make my people err, that bite with their teeth, and cry, Peace; and he that put not into their mouths, they even prepare war against him.

God plans to remove all their “visions” from them, shame them, and put them in darkness , and NOT answer them:

6 Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them.

7 Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God.

In Malachi, God continues his condemnation of bad priests:

2 If ye will not hear, and if ye will not lay it to heart, to give glory unto my name, says the Lord of hosts, I will even send a curse upon you, and I will curse your blessings: yea, I have cursed them already, because ye do not lay it to heart.

3 Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it.

8 But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, says the Lord of hosts.

9 Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law.

11 Judah hath dealt treacherously, and an abomination is committed in Israel and in Jerusalem; for Judah hath profaned the holiness of the Lord which he loved, and hath married the daughter of a strange god.

17 Ye have wearied the Lord with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and he delights in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

Those that oppress the widow and fatherless are condemned as being equal to sorcerers and adulterers

5 And I will come near to you to judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers, and against the adulterers, and against false swearers, and against those that oppress the hireling in his wages, the widow, and the fatherless, and that turn aside the stranger from his right, and fear not me, says the Lord of hosts. Malachi 3:5

The priests have not kept the ordinances. They have robbed God and even the whole nation by stealing the tithes and offerings (This is still done today):

7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, says the Lord of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

8 Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

9 Ye are cursed with a curse: for ye have robbed me, even this whole nation.

Malachi 3:10

***Note. It is very common for religious leaders to exploit this passage to rob the congregation of tithes and offerings, so that the leaders can make their profit.

They pass the guilt to the people, and threaten them with this passage, instead of admitting this is what they are doing themselves.

This is violating the ordinances of God.

But when the passage is read in context, it is clear that it is NOT the people who are doing the robbing, but the priests and leaders.

And to this day, the people are robbed while their priests live off the “profit” they make off this exploitation.

They are looking for a profit to serving God or they are not interested . They call evil good, and give lenience to the proud, the wicked and those that tempt god.

14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts?

15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

Jesus / Yashua also made note of those who take money from widows.

The story of the widow’s mite is NOT to teach us to give our last penny to God, so that we can starve, but a warning to priests, prophets and ministers to NOT rob the widow,

He see the leaders are greedy and hypocrites, not those worthy of donations:

38 And he said unto them in his doctrine, Beware of the scribes, which love to go in long clothing, and love salutations in the marketplaces,

39 And the chief seats in the synagogues, and the uppermost rooms at feasts:

40 Which devour widows’ houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation.

41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.   (Mark 12)

Conclusion:

If you are supporting your priest, prophet or preacher with your tithes and offerings, you are supporting a business venture, not a genuine ministry called by God.

The tithes and offerings are for the burnt sacrifice to God, and the poor.

Any partake of the offering was just for food that was shared to eat at that time. Nothing else.

God condemns those who make a profit off their service to Him.

The early apostles, and early priests and prophets were not to draw salaries or take the offerings and tithe for themselves.

Once ministers accept pay for their services, this establishes an entitlement mentality, where they will not do anything unless they are paid by man.

This means they are not serving God, but man, and obligated to their payers. This is an employment arrangement.

14 Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the Lord of hosts?

15 And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.

This can also mean they are neither serving man, nor God, since their service is now motivated by money, not the inspiration of God.

Most modern ministers will not accept this, as they consider themselves full time employees of the church. So be it.

They are employees of a business, and they have their reward.

Thought question:

How many people would serve God if they did not get paid for it?

See also:

https://heavenawaits.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/tithing-for-jews-and-christians-for-internet-pdf-conversion.pdf

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/108/

https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/arguments-for-and-against-pastor-salaries/


45 Responses to “Priests for Pay”

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  2. So, how are these prophets, pastors, and priest suppose to do the work of ministry, especially full time without receiving wages or profits for it? How can one serve God without proper financial support?

  3. I do not recieve money. Marrianne does not get a check. The Levites did not even get land. They were told that God was their portion. I may be in the minority for this, I however am of the opinion that God is sufficient and better than land. It has been abase and abound. No different than some with paychecks. Thank you for sharing this message. Stay blessed in your obedience and boldness.

  4. God promises the faithful that he will provide for them. Matthew 6:25-34. Also Psalm 81:10. I am certain there must be other examples from the Bible.

    In my own life, I have found that in serving God first, everything else is taken care of. Perhaps it is a skill I have to put to use, or someone chooses to give me something. I have literally found money lying in the middle of the street. But the service of God can not even be measured in material things.

    I do not attend a physical church. However, I choose to “tithe” or donate funds to our local senior center that provides meals to seniors and other assistance. And, no one is turned away because of their age. They benefit the whole community and anyone who asks for help.

  5. Greetings Marianne! I appreciate this post! God has been teaching me regarding how to properly “serve/work for Him”. I submit to you this scripture reference that He highlighted to me.

    1 Corinthians 9:11-14
    Complete Jewish Bible (CJB)
    11 If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much if we reap a material harvest from you? 12 If others are sharing in this right to be supported by you, don’t we have a greater claim to it?

    But we don’t make use of this right. Rather, we put up with all kinds of things so as not to impede in any way the Good News about the Messiah. 13 Don’t you know that those who work in the Temple get their food from the Temple, and those who serve at the altar get a share of the sacrifices offered there? 14 In the same way, the Lord directed that those who proclaim the Good News should get their living from the Good News.

    Although Paul clearly did NOT take advantage of his “rights” as an Apostle of the Lord, there apparently is some truth to servants of God receiving support. I wholeheartedly agree with the truth that we should NOT put a price on ministry, and I’m not clear on what they received, (perhaps an offering like Paul received from other churches) but it appears they did receive something.

    What are you thoughts?

    • dear Alicia.

      I think Paul was not speaking literally, but more philosophically.

      Because he could not go against scripture and change God’s word on the topic.

      If it like I could say, I have a right to be paid a million dollars for the job I did raising my children. I know this is not realistic, but it just states my value, if it could be put in monetary terms.

      God is the one who decides what our rights are, not us.

      there is nothing wrong with any believer showing appreciation for another believer who is working hard.

      or

      we should be helping each other all the time, and especially if we see each other in need.

      that is what the early christians did. they helped paul, as he needed it. they did not supply an ongoing salary for him.

  6. Serving our God,we should never ask for money, i worked as a stylist, that was my job, but anything concerning in the Lord,the Holy Spirit, if people tried to pay me i would tell them to do something for some one else. God has always provided for me, i praise him hallelujah, he is our Lord God Almighty, as of Nov. 27,20013 my cancer came back,it is in my brain and opticle area, i ask for prayers, i believe in miracles and that he is with me in this journey, i have seen a life time of his love and wonders.

  7. If one “takes” a “salary” then does not one become obligated to the task?

    Continuing in 1 Corinthians 9:15-17, Paul states that he would rather have a reward from the Lord rather than from others, the latter might bring about the possibility that some might not take his gospel seriously. If people care for him with their wealth and material things, they will continue to think and act like they always had rather than transform their thinking out of their regular tendencies. Paul prefers the reward of the Lord to the reward that men might provide on this earth. IMHO.

    “1 Corinthians 9:15-17
    New International Version (NIV)
    15 But I have not used any of these rights. And I am not writing this in the hope that you will do such things for me, for I would rather die than allow anyone to deprive me of this boast. 16 For when I preach the gospel, I cannot boast, since I am compelled to preach. Woe to me if I do not preach the gospel! 17 If I preach voluntarily, I have a reward; if not voluntarily, I am simply discharging the trust committed to me.”

    Denise

  8. Marianne,

    Are you a member of any church denomination?

    Church denomination membership – club members paying dues?

    Could it be “club membership”, supporting a particular denominational doctrine (members sign on, supporting that particular view) and their religious programs?

    I’m beginning to think so in many situations.

    Christ is the head of the Body – and there is one Body and one Bride.

    Here is what Jude says and what I think is (within).

    “Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah…These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves…they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.

    But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: how they told you that there would be mockers (false teachers) in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts (desires/impulses for programs not necessarily sexual lust). These are sensual persons (plays with emotions) who cause divisions not having the Spirit” (NKJV).

    So, here is what the Church (individual Believers with Christ as the head of His Church) are to do.

    “But you, dear friends, use your most holy faith to build yourselves up even stronger. Pray with the help of the Holy Spirit.

    Keep yourselves safe in God’s love, as you wait for the Lord Jesus Christ in His mercy to give you eternal life.

    Help those who have doubts. Rescue those who are living in danger of hell’s fire. There are others you should treat with mercy, but be very careful that their filthy lives don’t rub off on you.

    God is strong and can keep you from falling. He can bring you before His glory without any wrong in you and give you great joy.

    He is the only God, the one who saves us. To Him be glory, greatness, power, and authority through Jesus Christ our Lord for all time past, now, and forever. Amen” (Easy-to-Read).

    Blessings

  9. I don’t belong to a church, but maybe I should, for the fellowship. Living on a fixed income, I don’t have much, but I love to give to others. The last person I would give to would be a minister or priest. I do want to please God, and I believe the way to help others is paying for the single mom’s or elderly person’s purchases at the store or giving to a place like St. Jude’s Childrens Hospital, where they treat children for cancer and don’t turn any child away, regardless of insurance status. It’s not complicated. What would Jesus do? He never took a dime from anyone, but gave freely to everyone, especially the poor. We are called to be like Christ.

  10. Marianne,

    Me too.

    I think there is more than Jezebel at work, affecting the mind, soul and spirit within these assemblies.

    Just observing of a few denominations and various congregations over the past few years – it disturbing.

    I’m seeing it lately – in a particular Baptist church and a local mega church. Both have “statements of faith” and membership “tithes”.

    There is bookkeeping in the mega church – they know who gives and who is a member and not giving (club/cult/member).

    At the Baptist church – members are to walk forward, placing their offering in a common basket, retuning to their seat.

    There seems to be “a cloud” operating; doubt, unbelief in the Power of the Word, pride, envy, “religion”, superficial reading and teaching of the Bible and more within both. These are issues that Apostle Paul wrote about, Jude and what Peter addressed in his second letter.

    It is all about to be corrected son; the Bride is to be separated from the world and made ready.

    Blessings

  11. I once knew a bus driver who was a pentacostal minister, but yet he was working full time for the school. In my area they are far and few between. But this man of god didnt get his pay from his congregation.

  12. That is one reason I have services out of homes and we rent no buildings or have a building to spend God’s money on; we spend His money on His things like feeding the hungry and clothing the naked as well as supporting widows and orphans and helping the least of these so they we may do all things to the glory of God, in Jesus’ Name, Col.3:17!
    I get my money from my work not doing God’s work. Just as the Apostle Paul has shown us to do!

    • good for you

      God bless your work!

      • Just trying to be the best servant I can, but thnks and you have a God Blessed day!

      • Anytime you want to use anything of mine on your sight feel free to use it that is what it is out here for; to bless God and to bring a new spiritual level for His saints to walk in, so it shows up on the outside from the inside out! So we never end up with a form of godliness but lack the power thereof to walk in His Light! Because our God is a consuming fire so we had better be His ministers of fire, Ps.104:4 and Heb.1:7! Two times it was said in the Bible that they he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: and one time without the fire; while in Rev.3 the Laodiceans were warned because they became lukewarm, this is what happens when you get baptized without the Holy Ghost and the fire, that is the other gospel Paul was talking about! You know if an angel or anyone else preach another doctrine, Gal.1:8But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. We are never to preach anything but the whole gospel or we have gone to the right hand or to the left off the narrow path that leads to His straight gate, and few there will be that find it!
        I’m sorry most of my post are so long but I have to right what has been given to me as it is being given, I must let my mouth be His mouth and my lips His lips so that His mind will be presented the way He wants it done, 1 Cor.2:1-16 I really have not much choice in the matter; I’m like one of the saints of old; 2 Pt.1:20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. 21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. We can only write what He gives us to right because it is Him who wrote it the first time too and it is only by Him can we interpret the word too! This is the only way I know how to walk in the light of the Spirit and not in the flesh and that is to let Him have full control all the time; I must and will always do just that or I’m afraid of losing my gifting! Thank you for your response to my article, I can only hope one day my blog-sight could reach half as many people as yours does.
        God Bless Keep the Faith carry on in the power of the Holy Ghost!
        Lord’s Way Ministries
        Rev. G. L. Boyett

  13. Rev.,

    Amen. God bless you.

    I like this quote from Peter, “I have neither silver nor gold, but what I have, I give to you: In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, get up and walk!” (Acts 3:6).

    Peter was not on a salary or had any money in his pocket.

    Blessings
    Matthew 6:33

  14. Thanks for this post, Marianne. It’s important for more Christians to know how God views money as it relates to spirituality (or Christianity) and everyday life. I was talking to a Christian friend today about the issue of money and ministry. She has prayed to God to give her money so she can give to people and ministries; she then proceeds to enter sweepstakes like Publisher’s Clearing House, believing that God will answer her that way.

    I realize that God does want to give His people money for the work of ministry (whatever genuine ministry entails), but it will take godly wisdom when it comes to distributing money for the work of ministry. As far as ministers who charge money for ministry, some do it innocently and will not be condemned for it; however, when you charge for ministry, innocently or not, it deprives people who can’t pay. This is inequitable, because Jesus paid with His death and resurrection for all ministry so that no one should have to pay in order to receive: “Yes, everyone who thirsts, come to the waters; and you who have no money, come buy and eat. Yes, come buy… without money and without price” (Isa. 55:1). Amen.

  15. ISA 1:21-23 ¶ How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.
    22 -Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:
    23 -Thy princes are rebellious, and companions of thieves: every one loveth gifts, and followeth after rewards: they judge not the fatherless, neither doth the cause of the widow come unto them.

    ISA. 2:20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made each one for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

    I agree with the whole of your post and the comments. Yet I think it would not be right for me to make a “Law” out of not giving to prophets if they are true Prophets. We know them by their fruit and how many times they ask for an offering and their message.

    I was Pastor over 3 church’s and never ever ask for a offering unless it was to give to needy people. Yet I did place a little offering basket if they wanted to. But I never ever asked them to. I usely worked as well.

    As what I have studied – Real Prophet’s would take a gift. If it was of the Lord. In the O.T most people brought a gift with them when they went to see a prophet for help. For healing, or sin problems and needing to know the Will of God etc. etc.

    The Levite Priest hood was also taken care of by the 11 other tribes of Israel. Yes they could not Possess nothing or own it period. But they were taken care of just the same. They applied themselves into the Work of God, scribes, and teachers, and leaders in about every calling to take care of Gods people and to feed them the “true hidden manna”.

    If we could find a True Prophet today. It would be a pleasure to help them out as well and along with the Poor and Needy. I have only found “One” in my whole life that did not ask for money. William Branham was handed a million dollar check one time and gave it back to the man. He did that more than once. And never asked for money. He was the starter of the “Charismatic movement” and all called Him the Prophet or Man of God. A few of his followers were Oral Roberts, Kenneth Hagin, Tommy Osborn, Hal Lindsey’s father and Jesse Duplantis dad as well. He told dad Duplantis that he was going astray and not to get into with rich people but he did not listen. And we see his son today begging, and begging for money. Bro. Branham said he would quit preaching if he had to ask and or beg for money. Reckon where that leaves “Jimmy S” and TBN. Its like a QV Market place.

    And it’s a disgrace to the Name of Jesus Christ to me. Would Christ SELL his Revelation for money and BEG the people for it. Absolutely not. Yet he did take up offerings.

    Lighthouse – ty

  16. There is a good reason why “prophets” and “profits” are homonyms.

    • good movie

      very inspiring

      спасибо

      Будьте здоровы

    • what do you see in this movie,

      God Transform him from a man fearing of death to a man who waiting to die, waiting to see his Glory King face to Face.

      a person live in surrender and self-denial(abandonment

      a person live in a worship life(praying life)

  17. They have gone away from His ordinances and have not returned. Where are the true leaders that really love Yah AND His ordinances?

  18. holiness is what I long for

  19. Links to share:


    http://www.takehisheart.com/givingtithesbibletithing.htm
    http://www.takehisheart.com/Tithe/Tit1.html

  20. if you were a pastor paid by a church and your biggest giver was living in and out of sin would it have any effect on your sermons????????

    • charlie

      Yes it would….

      I work for Jesus , not man.

      I would be giving fiery sermons on sin and repentance, and phooey what the biggest giver thinks!

      He can either repent, or take his dollars elsewhere.

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