Satan’s use of God’s symbols of creation

 

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The mind set now is to avoid anything Satan uses that God made.

This leaves us with nothing to use or enjoy, since Satan will use everything God created for his own purpose.

Where do we draw the line, and say no?

Or do we permit the enemy to control what we can, or cannot, do?

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Symbols of God’s creation misused by pagan systems

God created stars, trees, geometry, planets, lights, etc……everything that was created was and is good.

To let Satan have a monopoly over every symbol of God’s creation is wrong.

God made the trees. But since pagans use the symbol of a tree, so now we are told we cannot celebrate with Christmas trees.

God made the stars. But pagans use the symbol of a star, so now we cannot use stars, even though the star of Bethlehem was significant in Christianity.

God created light. But pagans use candles, so now we cannot light candles for prayer.

God created birds. But pagans use the symbol of a bird, so now we cannot have pictures of birds.

God created the sun and moon. But pagans worship the sun and moon, so now we cannot use sun and moon in our art.

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The cross

Jesus was crucified on one, yet this cross shows up in Rosicrucian symbolism, along with a pentagram.

So we should stop using the cross to represent Christianity, because the occult has used and corrupted it?

We use a symbol for good.

Satan uses it for evil.

God knows the difference.

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Star of David

There seems to be a big issue over the Star of David, known to Hebrews as the Magen David, or Shield of David.

They claim it is the Star of Remphan. There is absolutely no real authentic, archeological proof for this.

People get their information off gossip websites, and go crazy with it.

“You tube” has replaced the Bible, for many people.

The Jews should know their own history, and so we should accept their reasons for their practices as valid.

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David was a man after God’s own heart. He defended the ways of God.

Jewish tradition teaches that the shield of David was his shield with his name on it…..David in Hebrew is dalid vav dalid….the ancient dalid was a triangle shaped letter….. 2 D’s on his shield (to identify it as his) identified the shield as his on the battlefield.  Just like we put our name on property we do not want to loose, David did the same thing.

His shield had his name on it.  That is where the star shaped symbol came from – 2 triangles (2 D’s) together. 

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I am sure David did not care about what the pagans were doing in their rituals. 

In fact, he was fighting them.

 

This also applies to what is called Solomon’s seal.  People say it is the star of David.  There is no proof here, just folklore.

Yahweh was God’s real shield in the spiritual realm, and the shield with his name on it was his shield in the physical realm.

I am sure, as God’s warrior sent to purge the promised land of pagans, that he did not one day, say “Oh I like this pagan symbol, and I am going to wear it.”


The shield of David had his name on it….which were 2 triangle shaped letters.  In time, it got stylized to form a star.

God creates, Satan corrupts what is created.

Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy.

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Modern symbols and objects

An example is the wedding band, which is a symbol of the love between a man and a woman united in marriage.

Now that there are gay marriages, are Christians supposed to take off their wedding bands, because Satan has gotten to use this symbol for gay marriage as well?  

After all, if we wear a wedding band, it might mean that we are gay, right?

The American flag has stars on it, to represent the states. Maybe I should burn the flag, because Satan uses stars?

The Israeli flag is made of a prayer shawl, which should communicate the correct intention, and a star of David.

I am now to reject the Israeli flag because pagans have used stars?

I am now to reject the Jewish people because they wear the Jewish (God’s) star of David, because witches have corrupted the star?

** actually pagans and witches have traditionally used the pentagram, not the hexagram.

But with the rebirth of Israel, using the star of David to corrupt it, would not be surprising.

I am now waiting for someone to tell me that I should not wear shoes, because pagans wear shoes.

I am waiting for someone to tell me that I should not live in my home, because pagans live in homes also.

What to do

When will this stop? Well, it won’t, as long as we allow it, and submit to what Satan wants.

This is ridiculous.

I do not submit to such robbery of God’s creation.

We are here to take back what the enemy has stolen, not give him room to take everything away.

God meant all symbols, and all parts of creation, to be used for his glory, and worship, not Satan’s.

Satan would like to monopolize all representation of God’s creation, and make us submit to this domination.

God is not going to punish us for using imagery in a right way, to honor him.

God will punish those who corrupt his creation to honor Satan.


316 Responses to “Satan’s use of God’s symbols of creation”

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    • How about not using ANY symbols ?
      How about putting our faith and trust in the Living God ?
      The symbol of our faith should be the lives we live.

      And there is MUCH substantiation to the “star of david” being of occult origin. See 1 Kings 11 and then read Amos 5:24-26 Which is repeated for some strange reason in Acts 7:42-43

      So what if God created the trees, stars, etc? But if today they are known for satanic symbols do you want to sport them?
      You see, it’s the occult that is obsessed with symbolism.
      Christians are to be obsessed with a godly life.

      Some things can only be written on our hearts.

      • hi thomas

        good point.

        however, it makes for a life with less joy, to not surround ourselves with the beauty of God’s creation, because the devil has decided all of it is his now.

        I cannot have any images of beautiful birds or trees around me. I cannot have lovely flower arrangements, or pictures of rivers running through the natural forest. after all, there must be a pagan river god, and a tree god, and the devil has come as a bird before to the mayans.

        it is not really about symbolism that much. it is about being able to admire creation and see God in it.

        • I completely relate to your
          Personally, I try to never let ‘what’s his name’ come between the Lord’s intention for creation (more than what’s beyond our control) any longer (Lord knows we’ve all thought twice before)

          However I tend to draw the line. Satan has used food to feed the gluttonous desires of man for ages, but I will not give up food! Christmas trees and “stars of david” I can do without. Christmas is a birthday celebration and I hold no ties to it’s human tradition. And the only stars I need are the ones in the heavens.

          I’ll tell you one I am on the fence about: Rainbows.
          You know, I really love rainbows, always have. Posters, shirts, those awesome spectrums in the sky (lets not forget suspenders) But of course we all know what those represent don’t we…
          …God’s promise to man! (haha, you know where this is headed)
          Have homosexuals ruined the rainbow?

          I believe the topic you’ve presented is a very necessary one.
          Yet some distinction is also necessary on a fundamental basis.
          And the day someone can tell me what trees and eggs have to do with the birth and resurrection of Christ, I may be all for it.

          Until then, this is a scripture that comes to mind: “Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.” Rom 1:25

          I believe your statement here sums it up well: “God is not going to punish us for using imagery in a right way, to honor him.
          God will punish those who corrupt his creation to honor Satan.”

          Thank you for your thoughtful page and response.

        • I don’t believe in santa, elves, frosty etc, or christmas trees, Jesus had none of these when he was born in a cold manager.And trying to out do the neighbors with lights is ridiculous,and by lying to your children saying santa is real was the first step to letting satan own you.

          • A little off topic but the Book of Esther tell us us when the year is supposed to begin and according to 1st and 2nd Chronicles along with our understanding of John the Baptists father (Zechariah) and his Priestly course schedule, it is impossible that the Messiah was born in the winter. If anything, he was conceived during that time.

            • cisco

              I do not know how people would know his schedule unless it was recorded somewhere. all I know is john was born about 6 months before Jesus, and even that is not confirmed.

              • I apologize if the following is cumbersome. It may be difficult to follow since the charts can’t be formatted.

                Luke 1:5
                There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zecharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.

                Luke 1:8
                And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest’s office before God in the order of his course …

                Luke 1:23
                And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration were accomplished, he departed to his own house.

                Luke 1:24
                And after those days his wife Elizabeth conceived …

                Abia (Abiyah) is one of 24 assigned dates given to the Kohanim (priests).
                Here is a chart for 1 Chronicles:7-17 to make this easier to follow:
                Verse: Courses:
                1 Chron. 24:7 1. Jehoiarib 2. Jedaiah
                1 Chron. 24:8 3. Harim 4. Seorim
                1 Chron. 24:9 5. Malchijah 6. Mijamin
                1 Chron. 24:10 7. Hakkoz 8. Abijah
                1 Chron. 24:11 9. Jeshuah 10. Sheciniah
                1 Chron. 24:12 11. Eliashib 12. Jakim
                1 Chron. 24:13 13. Huppah 14. Jeshebeab
                1 Chron. 24:14 15. Bilgah 16. Immer
                1 Chron. 24:15 17.Hezir 18. Aphses
                1 Chron. 24:16 19. Pethahiah 20. Jehezekel
                1 Chron. 24:17 21. Jachim 22. Gamul
                1 Chron. 24:18 23. Delaiah 24. Maaziah

                Twenty four Kohanim (priests) were selected to perform these ‘courses’ and each priest was assigned one course. The priest would begin and end his one week service for his assigned course on Sabbath (see 1 Chronicles 23:8 and 1 Chronicles 9:25). On three occasions all the men of Israel were required to travel to Jerusalem for the Creator’s Memorials (which we should still be commemorating today).

                The Hebraic Calendar begins in the Spring (NOT in the dead of winter like ours does (Esther 3:7).
                Anyway, getting back to the priest’s courses, the first week would be served by the priest of the family of Jehoiarib, the second week would be served by the priest of the family of Jedaiah, and so on. When the cycle was complete, the sequence would begin again at Jehoiarib.
                Here is a chart that illustrates the weeks, months, and assignments for months 1-3 (the beginning of Hebraic months did not occur as they do for us today. Their months started in the middle of each month).
                1st Month 2nd Month 3rd Month
                Abib-Nisan Zif-Iyyar Sivan
                (March-April) (April-May) (May-June)

                Week 1 Jehoiarib (1) Seorim (4) All Priests

                Week 2 Jedaiah (2) Malchijah (5) Abijah (8)

                Week 3 All Priests Mijamin (6) Yeshuah (9)

                Week 4 Harim (3) Hakkoz (7) Shecaniah (10)

                We are told that Zecharias (the father of John the Baptist) finished his course and he went home and shortly after, Elizabeth conceived John the Baptist (Luke 1:23-24). According to the course schedule, Zecharias would have served during the 10th week of the year (which began in the Spring March-April) because he was a member of the course of Abijah (the 8th course), he would additionally serve (with the other priests) on Nisan 15-21 which would be the first Memorial, then again with all of the other priests on Sivan 6 for the second Memorial which was Pentecost (the giving of the Ten Commandments to Moses). All of these services by him would have occurred before his next assigned course where only he served as priest for the week. Therefore, this places Zecharias’ temple assignment mentioned in Luke 1:23-24 as being on the second Sabbath of the third month in Sivan. This would mean he returned home after the third Sabbath in the Month of Sivan (what we know to be we May – June).
                According to Luke, Yeshua was conceived in the sixth month of Elisabeth’s pregnancy (see Luke 1:24-27. Note that the 6th month mentioned in Luke 1:25 is referring to Elizabeth’s sixth month of pregnancy – See Luke 1:24 and 1:36). This means that Yeshua had to have been conceived (NOT born) in late Kislev (which would be Nov-Dec.) Is it a coincidence that the festival of Hannukah (the Festival of Lights) is celebrated in late December and that Yeshua is called the Light of the World? In the book of John, Hannukah is referred to as the Feast of Dedication (John 10:22). Hannukah is a festival of rejoicing and celebrating deliverence from enemies (by lighting the Menorah) which miraculously stayed lit for eight days on only one day’s supply of oil (wise virgins, anyone?)

                Yeshua would be born somewhere between late Aug – early October which is “36-40 weeks” (October being the 40th) after his conception in November-December. Here’s another chart:
                Hebrew Month: Begins: Yeshua
                1. Abib/Nisan March-April 4
                2. Zif/ Iyyar April-May 5
                3.Sivan May-June 6
                4. Tammuz June-July 7
                5. Ab /Av July-August 8
                6. Elul August-September Birth of Yeshua ?
                7. Ethanim/Tishri September-October Birth of Yeshua ?
                8. Bul/Marheshvan/Heshvan October-November ——-
                9. Chisleu/ Chislev/ Kislev November-December Conception of Yeshua ~25 Kislev
                10. Tebeth / Tevet December-January 1
                11. Shebat/Shevat January-Februrary 2
                12. Adar February-March 3
                A very interesting thing to note is that the “Tabernacles” is a feast of the gathering in of the Harvest (see Exodus 23:16 and 34:22). If Yeshua’s first coming was on Tishri 15 (October) which is the first day of Tabernacles then when might the gathering of the end be (we will know the season)? Another thing to consider is, how do we commemorate October today? With, ghosts and goblins … that’s sad to me.

                • anon

                  thank you for that summary. I had read it before, but did not save it, so now I have it again to make a record of it

                  I agree about october. my birthday occurs then also.

    • The bible mentions many times about graven images and idolatry. Why do we as Gods people need symbols when they are used to conjure demons and to work iniquity. A real star is not a hexagram, it is a round circle with bright blinding light just like the sun. We ourselves through religion has become pagan in our need for objects to worship God. And God would not allow his people to use a symbol that was created for iniquity as a representation of his people. The Jews do know their history and that is why they chose that symbol they are Jews by religion and not by blood they are not decendants of Abraham anyone who is and are aware that they are refer to themselves as Hebrew or Isrealite. Do your research and study your history, satan is working over time to deceive us and he finds the smallest ways to do so. Why is it so important to you to have a symbol or an item to represent God when he never asked us to and if anything he warned us against it. How important is it to have a xmas tree what does it have to do with Christ’s birth? I am speaking as someone who felt as you do and came to realize that we put God in this box with our arrogance and presume to know better than him. God created flowers and plants for a purpose so as long as you utillize them for their rightful purpose there is nothing wrong with that. You can plant trees in your yard for food and beauty, why do you need to cut one down decorate it with shiny objects and place a hexagram on top of it to enjoy when you are virtually killing Gods creation and decorating it with vanity and satanic symbols for no purpose other than your own pleasure? In all things we do we must give glory to God. That is giving glory to satan because that is his pagan ritual. We as people of God must ask God to open our eyes and ask ourselves why is it so difficult to let go of unimportant symbols and practices which began from pagan origins.

      • ree

        people don’t use christmas trees for satanic purposes…they use it to celebrate the birth of christ

        you are missing the point.

        are you a christian? do you consider the cross a symbol of christian faith.?

        if so, by your logic, then you are pagan, because satan has used a cross also for pagan purposes.

        all images are images of god’s creation, and originate with god, not satan

        satan took creation and corrupted it, but it does not make the original creation corrupt…..it is his perversion that is corrupt, not the image.

        in a similar way, I have pictures of my children in my house……well, satan has used pictures also….does that make my photos suddenly corrupt because satan has corrupted images in general?

        do you see my point?

        • December 25th is the birthday of mythra the Roman sun god not Christ I don’t think people that celebrate Christmas are intentionally trying to defy God but wrong is wrong.

  2. How very true… Satan also counterfeited the Gospel of Christ with the koran and he counterfeited God’s identity by saying he is the god of Abrham, i.e. allah… and Mohammad also was nothing but a counterfeit of the real messiah Jesus..

    • well said Ruth!

      And G-D would have NEVER allowed Israel’s flag to be raised if it represented anything other than Holiness.

      Now if anyone asks me about the star of David, I will say “see, this is David’s intials in Hebrew”….G-D says “my people perish for lack of knowledge”….we must not believe everything that is thrown at us..check the scriptures, pray, ask for Guidance from the Holy Spirit-who leads us into all truth!

      • And most importantly, we need to “lighten” up…have a sense of humor and not take life so seriously….for tomorrow has enough worries of its own….

      • oh god i feel sick im pagan and you people have just hurt me so much read about us learn i grew up like you holy god loving but things changed for me and i changed my religion im still holy i still love god abd i thank him for creating me but please watch who you hurt when you say these things satin has done horrible things yes but doesnt god say that you should not judge people? we dont even really have a satin we dont worship him people raise kids in this religion and people learn very valuable things in this religion as in yours cant we just all get along the jews the christians the pagans thats all i want please and lindsey ruth you can have your views but dont hate me because of mine thank you for reading and blessed be

        • dear hecate

          the intention here is not to hurt anyone.

          this is more of a response to those that say christians cannot use certain symbols because the pagans had them first.

          a person can be a pagan and not consider themselves a satanist, even though a christian would view them both as unbelievers.

          my point was that all symbolism, and all of creation belonged to God first, and various groups used what was there for their own purpose, so one cannot make generalized judgments about what something means, since it varies according to the group using it.

          pagans, satanists, christians, and new age people all use similar symbols. but the meanings may be different. or they may be the same. a tree still represents life to all of them, for example.

          I wish you well, and the presence of God on your life.

  3. Hey! Check this out!
    Notice the pagan symbols at the end…..

  4. It is said … the King Solomon communicated with the Lyre Bird.
    You Tube is a good thing!
    Since you can learn that the Lyre bird out does the parrot. 😉

  5. The question is …
    Does the Lyre Bird have its own mating call?
    He incorporates in his call all the sounds he’s ever heard … down to a chainsaw …
    Sad thing is he does not have his own song.

    • We use symbols as this Lyre bird uses sounds …
      He’s heard so he repeats it to a ‘t’ …

      Truth of the matter is he is still smarter than most.

  6. First off, we are commanded to keep certain feast days, such as Passover, Unleavened Bread, First Fruits, Pentecost, The Day of Blowing, The Day of Atonement, Tabernacles + the 8th Day of tabernacles. After we (Israel, since we are all Israel who call upon the God of Israel) entered into the Land, we were commanded to not absorb the traditions of the people who lived in the land. We are not to celebrate the birth of Jesus #1 because we don’t know his date of birth. We have several theories and none of them fall on December 25th, because he was not born on December 25. He was not going to be sharing the same day as every sun god of every nation of the earth’s birth day. The scriptures don’t tell us his birth date so that we have no choice to celebrate it. We are to celebrate his Life and what he did for us, not the fact he was born. What mankind has done (in “Christianity”) is taken every minor detail and maximized it and made it more important than even the Messiah himself. Who cares about some dumb sticks he was hung on? I care about the blood and water he shed for the remission of my sins. Who cares about what day he was born! He was born and that’s the best thing that has happened to you and to me since we were given life! We don’t get caught up on his birth because the scripture tells us only that he was born and the details we need to know about his life.

    Jeremiah 10:1-10

    1Hear ye the word which the LORD speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:

    2Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.

    3For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.

    4They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

    5They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

    6Forasmuch as there is none like unto thee, O LORD; thou art great, and thy name is great in might.

    Yahweh Elohim is a mighty God and a creative God. He created all things. He tells us in Exodus 20:4 Exodus 20:4: Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. We don’t have to worry what Satan corrupts because we are not to be using these symbols anyways. That’s one of the 10 commandments to not make any likeness of anything. Yes, our Messiah died on a cross, but guess what? The cross was a method of execution, not something to be glorified. If Jesus had been put on an electric chair or a guillotine would we all make little electric chairs and wear them around our necks? Would we hang a little guillotine from our cars’ rear view mirrors?

    It is not about the cross per say, as much as it is about how our Messiah Jesus sacrificed himself that the lost sheep of the house of Israel could be joined back in and that we all might have eternal life. So then if it is all about Jesus are we to make little silver and gold symbols of Jesus and wear them on rings?

    We don’t know what he LOOKED LIKE! Hah, I find that the funniest thing. Is he a pasty-white looking surfer dude with long straight brown hair and blue eyes????? The Bible is for the Hebrews! Hebrew means to cross over as in when Abraham Crossed over the Jordan. Not one believer of Messiah can be Greek or American or even Earthling. Once we become a follower of Yahweh we become Hebrew and we Become of the stock of Israel; natural branches were removed that we might be grafted in.

    The sun the moon and stars are worshiped by pagans, but we don’t have any business making images of them anyways. We were commanded in Genesis 1:14-15 to look at the Sun, Moon, and stars for times, seasons, days, and years. Then they were commanded to give light. Their first responsibility is to tell us the date and then their secondary duty is to give light.

    Satan can’t steal anything from El Shaddai. God made everything with its purpose and we don’t have to be afraid of pine trees, but that doesn’t mean we need to cut them down and decorate them with little balls and lights and put them in a stand so they don’t fall over. We thank Elohim and his creativity for making a tree and that they provide us with shade, wood for housing, paper, and everything else we enjoy that comes from him.

    • Hey Spencer,

      coincidence? that I just read last night where in the scriptures it DOES tell us when Jesus was born…He was born on Feast of tabernacles! Here is the link….the scriputes point out when John the baptist was born as well….was was 7 mths prior to Jesus!

      http://bethhamashiach.com/whenwasYeshuaborn.htm

      ” According to Luke’s account, Yeshua was born that night, on 15 Tishrei.”

      • So…when observiing the feast of tabernacles we are indeed celebrating his birthday….this is also one of the holidays that will be required for all nations to observe each year by coming to Jerusalem…when Christ reigns.

        Zechariah 14

    • hi spencer,

      A good and thoughtful comment.

      I am not as concerned about symbols being used, or not used, for God, as about those who claim every symbol is evil, and evidence that we are not saved, or going to hell, if we use them. There was a long debate on another page about this, so I made a post on it.

  7. The debate on “another page” was cut short …
    And now the debate on this page lacks …
    The debate on the other page was concerning the Hexagram and its origins.
    Some did not like the fact that the geometrical symbol of the Hexagram finds its roots in paganism and the occult.
    Israel uses the Hexagram upon its flag …. but so does many other ‘principalities’!

    Israel itself knows the origin of the Hexagram did not originate with nor does it belong to ‘King David.’

    The so call ‘Star of David’ is a pagan symbol originating in Sumerian/Babylon.
    So it has a non – Semitic flavour.
    It has/is used by the Freemasons, the Illuminiti, the Rosicrucians, the Greeks, the Romans, etc. etc.

    The Hebrew language was/ is written from right to left.
    The letters do NOT appear one on top of the other!
    So the argument that this was the signature of the ‘King David’,
    doesn’t hold any water!

    Israel admits this ‘Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs’.
    The Hexagram is the 666 symbol.
    It has 6 points.
    It has 6 triangles.
    It forms 6 side Hexagram at its ‘centre’.
    So it is a 6 within a 6 within a 6

    It is called ‘The Seal of Solomon’.
    It’s magical uses to ward off ‘devils’
    proves that its origin is goyim.
    Here is the link to Israel’s most important department …
    Israel Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1999/2/King%20Solomon-s%20Seal

    • Try to understand what you are reading.

      Solomon’s ring, from this article did not have a star of david on it. He had a tetragammon, which is the 4 letter hebrew word for god. YHVH….was on his ring.

      The 6 pointed star is just a well known piece of geometry – 2 triangles together. Just like a triangle is nothing special. Triangles are just geometry, and have occasionally been used for decoration. There is nothing evil about it.

      Notice the Israel ministry just passed along folklore about it, and points out the confusion as to whether a 5 pointed star or a 6 pointed one was part of the history , based on legends.

      The use of anything can be positive or negative….Israel has used this symbol in a positive way. The hexagram also is consistent with the shield of David, and his initials.

      If Israel used the star of David, and got miraculous results, then that is a testimony to the glory of God, protecting Israel.

      The You tube media you presented uses it in a negative way.

      • Amo 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

        The star of Moloch ….

        Stephan in acts was killed for addressing the truth!

        The so called ‘Star of David’ David who??
        It was most certainly NOT King David.
        For King David knew the God Himself was/is His shield.
        When He killed the giant it was with a stone.
        Not with a HIS Sword but with the sword of the Giant did the King
        take off its head.

        That thing is an HexAGram!
        Definition of an Hex is this ‘ a spell on, bewitched.’

        • you keep making assumptions with no proof.

          You have no proof that the star of david was the star of Moloch.

          david’s shield had his initials on it, which were 2 triangles together in hebrew.

          david did not copy the pagans.

          • You show me proof with the shield of David that this is so!

            If the shield was the shield of the king it would most certainly say King David!

            The Hexagram is was/is used by Islam as well!
            It is used in black magic rituals.
            It is used as a sacrifice to Moloch.

            That is why the jews were all stamped with a yellow hexagram before going into the furnace.

            You show me proof!

            • Like i said. you are wrong. you are trying to demonize the star of David, and your reasons are not legitimate.

              see also gavriel’s and lyndsey’s comments

              • Marianne, I have read Lyndsey’s and Gavriel’s comments.
                My reasons are genuine.
                Why would you bow the knee to a pagan stupid HEXagram?

        • 9. Kaiwan (NRSV) or Kiyyun (ESV; Amos 5:26)

          Amos calls Kaiwan “your star-god.” Kaiwan was an astral god worshiped by some people of the Northern Kingdom after they became vassals of the Assyrians. This god is associated with the planet Saturn.
          http://doctor.claudemariottini.com/2006/10/yahweh-and-other-gods.html

          So….according to your logic thus far, if Astronauts pursue a mission to land on Saturn then they are Evil/Pagan…the reference to “stara” god was meant as ASTRAL…outerspace….SATURN.

        • “the star of your god” is referencing the PLANET of SATURN

    • It is my understanding from reading the KJV and Jewish websites which explain the Hebrew alfabet that: Revelation 13: 18Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

      According to Jewish/Hebrew, a letter in the Hebrew alfabet has a numerical value. The numerical value of the name of the AC is 600+60+6 = 666 NOT 6+6+6= 18 numerical value…they are 2 separate numbers with different values. The star of David has 6 points…NOT 600 points or even 60 points…so this cannot in anyway be compared to the number of the AC.

      http://www.carm.org/greek-and-hebrew-alphabets-numeric-equivalents

      If anyone has the ability to decifer/calculate the “name” of 600 and 60 (three score) and 6…according to the original language that Revelations was written (I believe it was either Greek or Hebrew)…Please let us know your results.

      In essence, the number of the AC is 600+60+6 NOT 6+6+6 so this would rule out any reference to the star of david who only has 6 points and 12 sides I might add that could represent the 12 tribes of israel.

      • We use 2 different parts of our brain to dream and read. Visions fall under dreams. In dreams words that you try to read are usually upside down and backwards or non legible. Even awake the lenses of our eyes record different then how our brain interrupts. Yes, the number of Man is 6 as we were created on the 6th day. But if the number 6 was seen three times in a dream like state, it could’ve been a 9… It’s a waist of time thinking on this. If you are confused and have added your own label to meaning, just to label it known; then your definitive label halts all further knowledge presented by our Lord. Labels = reasons.. Reasons = Taboo Taboo = fear of moving past the understanding… Fear only God for disrespecting and calling evil the Authoritative Blessings he has given you to trust, not to question. These are all parts of the blessings and authority that God has given those who believe. You can find what you need here and not in your own definitive label of an explanation.

        Genesis 1
        26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

        27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

        28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

        29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

        30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

        Mark 4:
        35 And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.

        36 And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.

        37 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.

        38 And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?

        39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

        40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?

        Finally,
        John 14:
        12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

        13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

        14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.an’s

  8. Marianne,

    Also note that David means beloved like in verse of Song of Songs:

    I am to my beloved (Dodi) and my beloved (Dodi) is unto me…

    Solomon sings to God in the name of all Israel, or in larger perspective all saints who ever lived:

    Both Israel (microcosm) and God (macrocosm) are called by the name “beloved” written with two triangles…now what would be the perfect graphic representation of this verse – if both God and His people are called by the name of “beloved” written by two triangles? Exactly, Shield of David!

    • True.

      God blessed David. God blessed Solomon. God blessed Israel.

      This proves that God did not condemn any “star” symbol in use at the time.

    • And I think your response calls for a SONG….LOL….I love this song by tenth avenue north…

  9. And for my brother and sister in Christ: Silvan and Abigail: “Let it Go”

    • true.

      Jesus indicated, as above, so below…….

      God reaches down to man…..triangle points down !

      Man reaches up to God…..triangle points up !

      United – together – a covenant of those beloved.

    • THAT is KOOL! are we to assume that there are 14 generations between Christ and his return?

  10. Regarding Amos 5:26

    Correct translation:

    And you shall carry Siccuth your king and Chiun your images, Kochav (Mercury/Star) your god, which you have made for yourselves.

    Siccuth… Chiun… Kochav -They are names of pagan deities.

    Kochav is also a name for Mercury…Amos accuses worship of deity named Kochav (Mercury/Star) … there is no indication whatsoever that image of a star has being used or imagined, simply the deity itself was called Kochav…

    http://www.chabad.org/library/bible_cdo/aid/16177/showrashi/true

    • to the naked eye, Mercury and Saturn…all planets appear as a “star”-they didnt have telescopes back then….And according to the book of Enoch, they were given their knowledge of the “stars/planets” by the fallen angels…

      • Hebrew for Star is Kochav, and Mercury has no distinct name and is called Kochav also…but prophet Amos spoke of deity, not star…

        • Suns and Stars were worshipped… so the stars were their deities…
          Yahweh permits and hates use of symbols, especially when it is a STAR symbol..

          • *not permits – but forbids…

            His Israel all and only the people in Christ.
            No use of a cross symbol needed.

          • the stars were given for a sign to God’s people. There is nothing wrong, in themselves, or use of a symbol for them, to remind us of the promises of God.

            Num 24:17 I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.

            Mat 2:2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him.

            Mat 2:10 When they saw the star, they rejoiced with exceeding great joy.

            2Pe 1:19 We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:

            Rev 2:28 And I will give him the morning star.

            Rev 22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star.

            • YES did you recognize that this is ALL ABOUT JESUS THE CHRIST??

              It is blessed to worship HIM – the Star out of Jacob –
              but it IS WRONG to worship a star in and of itself..

              You have proven my point thanks Marianne 🙂

              • No Jews worships a star.

                No real Christian worships a star.

                so what is your point?

                That stupid pagans worship stars?

                well, we knew that already.

                • Marianne….
                  you missed my point!
                  When the star is not connected to Jesus it is an abomination.

                  “ANY person has the choice of either accepting Jesus, who came from the Father, or accepting just a man, who comes in his own name.”

                  YES, and that is ALSO true for Jews.
                  They have no excuse – WHATSOEVER!

                  “Jesus spoke to the Jews, because they were the only ones around”
                  Really?
                  When reading the passage in context, he makes specific connections about Judaism:

                  39You diligently study the Scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the Scriptures that testify about me, 40yet you refuse to come to me to have life.

                  41“I do not accept praise from men, 42but I know you. I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts. 43I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him. 44How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only Godd?

                  45“But do not think I will accuse you before the Father. Your accuser is Moses, on whom your hopes are set. 46If you believed Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. 47But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?”

                  • The STAR on the Flag that represents ISRAEL is a reference to King DAVID…son of Jesse…the bloodline of JESUS….without their knowing their flag represents their Messiah!!! And the G-D of Israel as being their Shield. This truly is getting ridiculous….however, entertaining…at this point, are you trying to convince yourselves?!

                  • yes i know….but you are acting like traditional Jews are the ONLY unsaved people in the world, and acting like this star of David is something evil that they worship. I never said jews were all saved. Only the messianic ones are.

                • Ok so what I’ve caught from this page is that gays are forbidden, an satin has control over the symbols, and if your practice magic for good not evil, you will be shunned, ok one I’m gunna tell yall what did Jesus preform, also what I use the star as is to thank the elements.Now iI want you to show me how an where did god say shun people who worship my work, he is the elements.The tip ppint is the spirit an the other points going clockwiseis Water, Air, Earth, and Fire. Now iI want yall to find a chapter in the bible that stated. DO NOT GIVE THANKS AN WORSHIPTO THE ELEMENTS, even though he made them, and other chapters that states homosexuality is shunned. Because I’ve done my fair share of reading an I have found none of that, I think modern day is driving people insane someone can’t say that no matter what you do how you do it everything your gunna do is bad, me personally I think yall are mean, rude, and to caught up in modern day times.

                  • dear dylan

                    those scriptures are easy to look up. this is the age of google.

                    type in what you are looking for and put bible and it will give you the verses…..astrology, worshiping nature instead of the God of nature, and different sins ….. it is all there

                    you are new age, which is not biblical….these are two different spiritual directions…and they oppose each other, so I advise you to spend some time in the bible and find your own answers.

                    If I tell you, you will not believe me….so if you are really seeking the truth, you will find it…. this world is full of lies, and sell them as truth…the lies sound good, but will only eventually harm you, or not protect you…..only the truth can set a person free.

              • WHO is worshiping a star?

                The star of David, of which this debate originated via You Tube posts by Abigail….REPRESENTS a NATION….as OUR AMERICAN FLAG REPRESENTS OUR NATION and by the way…the American flag has 50, 5 pointed stars of which represent the number of STATES and 13 stripes of which represent the 13 Colonies…..are we devil worshipers because our flag has 50, 5 pointed stars…..!? Absurd isn’t it…

                • lyndsey,
                  God’s kingdom is not from this world, and so it shouldnt surprise that the USA was and is based Masonic principles (and thus satanic).
                  You can find that in the architecture of Washington for example, or that most of the presidents where Masons, and many things more.

                  His Kingdom is NOT FROM THIS WORLD – AND THE ISRAELI STATE IS NOT TRUELY YAHWEH’S ISRAEL until He comes again!

                • First off the star represents a state.

          • Amos doesn’t speak of a star, but of an idol, do your homework!

            Yahweh hates symbols?

            How about Menorah, Urim and Tummim, FLAGS of the 12 tribes, pomegranate and palm decorations in the temple, “horn” of david, 13 bull washstand, Cherubim, Holy Ark, letter “Tau” or the Cross sign, with which Ezekiel marked the chosen ones ???

  11. I asked yesterday your opinion of whom is Christ Jesus speaking in John 5:43, if not of the False Christ /”Antichrist”….
    He tells the people in His time, who are subscribing to Judaism:

    I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

    Note that the meaning of Jew can have 3 different meanings:
    1) a resident of Judaea, in Jesus’ time
    2) a person who’s religion is Talmudic Judaism
    3) a descendant of Judah’s Tribe

    • seemed self evident……

      the antichrist is the antichrist…although Jesus did not indicate he was specifically the “man of perdition”

      We are told in the bible that there would be many false Christs……

      Most men come in their own name, unless their boss sends them, then they come in their boss’s name.

      Jesus spoke to the Jews, because they were the only ones around.

      This words hold true for ANY person. ANY person has the choice of either accepting Jesus, who came from the Father, or accepting just a man, who comes in his own name.

      We do that in every election, in every country.

      This happens also in every church…do we receive Jesus, as coming from the Father, or do we receive men as our saviors?

  12. Silvan,

    Jesus spoke to those who didn’t recognize in him Messiah of Israel, who coincidentally happened to be Jews, those who recognized him at first were also Jews…you see there were not too many Swedes or Norwegians around Jesus at that time…

  13. Debates on Heaven Awaits:

  14. @all
    The point is again: The star originated with Solomon not David!
    That is the point.. the term *David’s* Star came up first time in the 14th century.. cant you see this is a falsehood to say it is Davids star, when it is Solomons.. you can argue whatever you want.

    The reason I am discussing this as a subpoint is for the fact that the Jews are not whatsoever a special nation/race, who deserve to be idolized and viewed as you are doing. You have rosed colored glasses on. Whatever they are doing it is “okay” and approved by God.

    For Yah’shua they are not of more concern then any other nation.
    Only the believers in HIM are HIS ISRAEL!

    • silvan

      We are not granting the Jews special rights to do anything wrong.

      We would recognize a wrong doing and mention it.

      But we would also defend them if they are falsely accused, which is happening frequently in this Arab oil lust world culture we have.

      This includes demonizing the star on their flag, denying Israel the right to exist in safety, accusing them of witchcraft, a world wide conspiracy to destroy the world, a plot to take every one’s money, and to murder “innocent terrorists,” etc.

  15. This is what the star of moloch looks like.
    http://www.robertroberg.com/writings/moloch.html

    • you really are so gullible to believe this crap?

      There is nothing that identifies moloch with the seal of solomon or the star of david in the bible.

      go read your bible, and get off crappy web sites.

      • What hard evidence you have that the Israeli Republic/Jews are Yahwehs people?
        I would suggest you would read the bible, and the scripture I have posted time and time again!

        • You take something isolated from the OT and apply it to modern Israel. That is stupid.

          Israel sinned many times, but God always forgave her, and took her back.. The Israel you see now was predicted to be there, God promised to bring the Jews back to their land, and he did that.

          He did not say he would wait until the messiah showed up either. In fact, Israel’s establishment has to precede the Messiah for him to come and save them.

    • abigail….you ALSO believe that COWS ARE ABDUCTED BY UFOS!!!! sorry, but it had to be said!

  16. lyndsey,
    you quoted that Kiyyun Amos described referred to Saturn.
    Now, the question is if the Hexagram was a used symbol for Saturn, and thus condemned by God.

    After just 2 minutes of research I found:

    “In the Book The History and Practice of Magic, Vol. 2, the six-pointed star is called the talisman of SATURN and it is also referred to as the Seal of Solomon.[6] Details are given in this book on how to make these symbols and the materials to use.”
    wikipedia

    Sure, this cant be of definite evidence… but in some way the six-pointed star was connected to Saturn..
    what do you think?

    Marianne
    you are all thinking that the Jews are holy and the “apple of God’s eye”.
    You think that the Republic of Israel is the approved and intended theocratic state, where Yahweh rules.
    You cant imagine that the star on their flag is not approved in Yahwehs eyes. You cant imagine that they are no blood descendants of the tribe of Judah.
    You think they are “special”.

    • You quote from a book of magic for your proof? That is witchcraft on your part, to believe the father of lies. You listen to the devil’s crowd to get your ideas. You are nothing but a Nazi.

      Witchcraft is crap, and its leader, Satan,m has always been an enemy of Israel. So you walk in your father’s hoof steps?

      Yes……Jews are holy and the “apple of God’s eye”.
      Yes…. the Republic of Israel is the approved and intended theocratic state, where Yahweh rules.
      Yes….. the star on their flag is approved in Yahwehs eyes. Yes….. they are blood descendants of the tribe of Judah.

      Stop getting your information from the devil, and you will finally find the truth. Otherwise, the devil will find you of great value in the days ahead of us.

      • See, this I mean with “angry mode”..Nazi..yeah..
        That you love me, was obviously a lie.. who is the father of lies?

        The quote simply proves that the hexagram was connected to Saturn, nothing more..

        If Jews would be holy, there would be no abortion and homosexuality, just to name a few serious sins.

    • Silvan,

      I have a headache! Literally…will read more and post later, maybe-this is truly draining.

      • Lyndsey, sure.. facing the great deception and the Illuminati’s web of lies can be very hurtful !
        Yahweh bless

        • actually, my headache was most likely from reading all the Cr-P on Solomons Seal…pentagrams vs HEXagrams…and yada yada. I’ll respond here from what I remember you posting….1) the pentecostal movement IS REAL…Read Acts 2 and 2) Jews DO NOT worship their flag, nor do the Americans…. 3) No one “idolizes” the Jews-if anything, unfortunately -and ME NOT INCLUDED-they HATE them. The Jews are STILL G-D’s CHOSEN PEOPLE and the Gentiles (non-jews) are ADOPTED IN! and 4) IF the Jews/Israel were NOT LOVED by G-D then why in the world is rescuing them at the battle of Armegeddon! It is the Temple Mount that Jesus will step down on causing another earthquake as happened upon his crucifixion….and 5) IF G-d did not LOVE HIS PEOPLE/Jews/Israel then how in the world have they “somehow” won every war thus far against all odds!!! And 6) you comments along with Abigails are very dangerously close to what began the Holocaust! If anyone is under a “spell” it would have to be you and Abigail! This is the most BIZARRE debate thus far that i Have seen on here and I honestly cannot believe the attitudes expressed towards Israel from you and Abigail

          • Morning at all!
            Again, I am not hating Jews.
            You have been fed that everyone who says that the Jews are not holy -and no one is outside of Christ, YES Marianne we are commanded to walk HOLY,- is an supposed anti semit..

            The fig tree.. yes.. do you remember that the branches who dont believe in Messiah have been CUT OFF ??????
            Jews who not accept Yah’shua are not regarded as a part of Israel anymore!
            You have been fooled just because that Republic is *NAMED* ISRAEL !

            You have been fed a simple lie, and through your bias every mention of Israel in prophecy MUST belong to that state, right?

            Think again! You are being fooled!

            It is the great deception, not a small one!

            THE GREAT deception, and you are naive to think you would easily able to recognize it???
            How arrogant!

            The spirit of the pentecoastal movement is not the HOLY spirit, but a counterfeit!
            I know Acts 2 and it has nothing to do with it.

            • Then read it again! Ask Jesus to give you the HS-it is only Jesus who has been given this authoriy to give the HS to those who ask Him. Once you have received the HS then you will understand the “things” of the Spirit…and you will be brought into all truth!

              Acts 2: 17And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: …”

              • “The Holy Spirit will start to “tenderize” your heart, making it much more tender and compassionate.”

                “With this gift, God will become much more active in your life and will start to supernaturally show Himself to you in a wide variety of ways. This gift is a major door opener that will take you from the dugout out onto the real playing field where the real walk with the Lord is at.”

                http://www.bible-knowledge.com/baptism-of-the-holy-spirit/

            • “This is a gift that God wants all of His children to have, just like His gift of eternal salvation through His Son Jesus Christ.”
              http://www.bible-knowledge.com/baptism-of-the-holy-spirit/

              Silvan,

              I found the above link and read thru most of it to make certain it was a safe site and truth. Let me know your thoughts AFTER reading it. AT the bottom of the page, it says you will experience 1 of 3 things….My personal experience (short version) is that I did feel the HS very much so and I began to hear another language/syllables in my thoughts…over the past 21 years I have heard the HS pray in different languages. So, for me, it was quite evident that the HS came upon me with the evidence of speaking in another language….I personally don’t see how it could happen any other way…PLEASE read it…along with Acts 2 and 1 Corinthians 13

              with love,

              Lyndsey

              • and this will also help you and anyone else understand how easily you can hear from Him..one example: When the HS told me “ASK youself, who was David…I am their Shield”….this was BEFORE I read about the star of David being referred to as the “magen ? and the SHIELD of David”…I honestly didn’t understand how what was said was in reference to the Star of David…until AFTERwards….this is so Awesome and you truly have to TRUST HIM!

                …so, the star of David, may also be called the Shield of David, but G-D is their SHIELD…not the star and not the flag!

            • Silvan and Abigail:

              Re: Baptism in the HS

              “The Holy Spirit will start to “tenderize” your heart, making it much more tender and compassionate.”

              “With this gift, God will become much more active in your life and will start to supernaturally show Himself to you in a wide variety of ways. This gift is a major door opener that will take you from the dugout out onto the real playing field where the real walk with the Lord is at.”

              http://www.bible-knowledge.com/baptism-of-the-holy-spirit/

  17. Every harmless note about the hexagram, gets you into angry mode…
    But you are not “giving them special” treatment… sure…

  18. The 12th century rabbi Rashi, commenting on Jeremiah 7:31 stated:
    Tophet is Moloch, which was made of brass; and they heated him from his lower parts; and his hands being stretched out, and made hot, they put the child between his hands, and it was burnt; when it vehemently cried out; but the priests beat a drum, that the father might not hear the voice of his son, and his heart might not be moved.
    A rabbinical tradition attributed to the Yalkout of Rabbi Simeon,[6] says that the idol was hollow and was divided into seven compartments, in one of which they put flour, in the second turtle-doves, in the third a ewe, in the fourth a ram, in the fifth a calf, in the sixth an ox, and in the seventh a child, which were all burned together by heating the statue inside.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moloch

    • Did Moloch have a star of David on his tummy, like the picture in the website you referenced?

      answer is “no”

      So you are not justified in your antisemitism.

  19. I think I am going to start a garbage website, and claim that the flag of Canada has a pagan symbol, the maple leaf, which represents the pagan values of nature worship.

    This makes Canada an abomination and a rogue state, dedicated to witchcraft.

    5 point maple leaf = pentagram

    I bet I would get some people to believe this…just because it is posted on the internet.

    • Marianne it is not Yahwehs sign and thus it must be heathen/pagan.. that doesnt mean that the Candaians are nature worshipper… and also, Abigail and I did not say that the Jews are devil worshippers..
      “My Kingdom is not from this world” –
      thus EVEY kingdom on this earth is not Yahwehs –
      UNTIL he comes again!
      Read Ez.37 how it looks like when Israel is being gathered by Him.
      This prophecy has not been fulfilled and the Rep.o. Israel is a counterfeit.

  20. Why dont you give this at least a second thought?
    I am a brother, and I thought you love me..

    • Loving you in Christ doesn’t mean we have to agree with you. How are you not able to “see” your hateful remarks towards G-Ds Beloved!!

  21. Ok then lets go right into scripture..
    And here we have it very clear:

    According to Ezekiel 37 the Theocratic Nation of Israel, when his people are gathered by him into the holy land, will be like following:
    TRUE ISRAEL
    -will be sinless
    -will be ruled by a King (King David)
    -the resurrection of the dead precedes (first resurrection)

    Next chapter we see that true Israel lives “in rest, peace, safety, without walls”.

    The NT tells that in the New Covenant believers in Christ are ISRAEL, the old covenant is vanished away (Heb.8, Gal.3, etc…).

    Come on now

    • They still get there before the Messiah does, and if they were not worthy of redemption, God would destroy them as the wicked in the time of wrath.

      Your kind of thinking is really scary. It was this mind set that Israel was not righteous, that caused the death of 6 million Jews.

      Your mind ie influenced by Satan, not God.

      God help you see.

      I love you , but you are SO LOST, and deceived. You are also dangerous in your thinking.

      Leaders will think like you in the last days and come to destroy the Israel that is there. Jesus himself will have to come rescue Israel from these demon possessed, hate filled people.

      • You don’t love Silvan.
        You are accusing him wrongfully!!
        Stop this none sense!
        I think you have been put under a spell.

        • To answer both your comments, no one bows to a hexagram, at least Christians and Jews don’t.

          Do you know what a symbol is?

          You country’s flag is a symbol, Do you pray to it? OF course not.

          Then why do you persist in foolish claims that Jews do this, or we do? This is nonsense.

          I love Silvan but not his, or your, accusatory behavior.

          Both of you demonstrate attachment to sources of deception, and you attack Israel mercilessly, with one foolish comment after another.

          Silvan like you, makes outrageous claims,

          If Jews would be holy, there would be no abortion and homosexuality, just to name a few serious sins.

          Since when are Jews responsible for all the abortions and homosexuals in the world? This is a lie! It is demonization. and both of you do it.

          You both demonstrate spirits of strife and condemnation, and need to get deliverance.

          This constant attack against the nation of Israel is demonic.

          The Jews I have met are more righteous than most Christians, and they do honor YHVH there in Israel.

          They pray 3 times a day to YHVH, and honor him in song and dance and in their daily lives. I would like to see Christians do more of that.

        • A spell!? How would you even know of spells Abigail? Are you involved in this? Have you exposed yourself to this in anyway? I have noticed that Both you and Silvan are quoting from secular and witchcraft sites…..think on this Abigail….you may have indirectly and unintentionally opened a door….In Jesus Name I bind this lieing spirit!!

      • No, Ez.37 is clear, true Israel will be gathered at the resurrection of the dead.

        I do not demand an apology for slandering me as Nazi.
        Do me instead a favour and take serious what I am telling you.
        It was not the mindset that the Jews are not righteous what murdered them. I make no distinction between Jews and the rest of the unbelievers not in Christ, they are ALL not righteous! NO MAN is righteous, not the Jews, no one, except who is in Christ Jesus.

        Makes me that murderous Nazi Marianne?

        I am not lost, but sadly this is what I am thinking about the people who think the Jews are Israel.

        The whole reason for this is, that not Jesus will save the Jews but the Antichrist, posing as Jesus, and you WILL accept him!!

        • You need to review Nazi thinking. There is no difference between what you are saying here, and what the Nazis taught. That is why I said your thinking is dangerous, and it is not slander to point out the truth. Your vicious comments are shocking.

          There is only one Jesus, and I know him.

          If you knew him as you claim, you would not be speaking this horrible propaganda that you pick up on godless websites.

          Please do me and everyone here a favor, take some time and pray. Visit a synagogue, and let God show you his heart for natural Israel. Let him open your heart too, and replace all that condemnation with his LOVE.

    • Zechariah 14

  22. Marianne, I did not say that the Jews are responsible for ALL the abortions and ALL the homosexuality…

    In Israel THERE IS abortion and homosexuality, and enough of that..

    Logical conclusion: They are NOT holy.

    • do you think you could pass as holy?

      There is abortion and homosexuality and homosexuality in your country also. Why don’t you spend time attacking it?

      Why do you single out Israel? At least they try to restrict it as much as possible, example rape or endangered fetus or mother.

      • We are not talking about me..
        but yes, as a disciple of Christ I am commanded to be holy. Didnt you know?

        Abortion is murder, homosexuality a sin.
        Rape is not an excuse for abortion, every child has the right to live, and Yahweh will take care of no matter what!

        It is not about me or my sinful country, we are talking about Israel.. you asking why – well the reason is that you are stating that they are HOLY.
        AND THEY ARE NOT!!!
        Take finally off the rose colored glasses,
        if you do not yourself, GOD will do it, and then you will be shocked!!
        If it would be really the theocratic state intended by Yahweh, and specified in scripture, then they would be sinless and have a KING !!!
        Please, wake up now before it is too late, yes it will be hurtful, but it IS hurtful to really humble oneself, and deny oneself, and lose the own will and life for CHRIST, LIKE he has COMMANDED in Matth. 16:24-25 !

        “24Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

        25For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.”

        You have not gone through this, and STRIVEN to be NOTHING for the sake and will of Christ!
        To be NOTHING can be and is hurtful for our FLESH, and thats why MOST believers do NOT do it!
        Hear me please, it is contrary to our nature to DENY OURSELVES and LOSE OUR LIFE, and 99% DO NOT DO IT !
        How a little pride kills you, and you are a little bit pride!

  23. Music is the key to the soul. About 90% of their themes come straight from scripture. This group praises God more than Christians do.

    It is this heart that chose the Israeli star and flag, with much thought and care. It was a heart after God, not satan.

    If you go to you tube, and search for Israeli music, you will find nothing satanic about it. It is full of joy, peace, respect for God, love for life.

    • AMEN!!!!

    • No, Christ is the key to the soul, apart from HIM there is no true salvation, just sentimental EMOTIONS !

      Muslims also have fine music.
      Music is no indication for salvation!

      They can worship “Yahweh” however they want, apart from His Son they are not worshipping the TRUE GOD !
      It is in vain!
      Judaism is a manmade religion with its rabbinical traditions, just like JW or Catholicism is a man made religion!
      They use the name of Jesus, but they dont worship the true God, because they have major flaws in their doctrines – like Judaism has the greatest flaw, MISSING CHRIST!
      There is no salvation, no righteousness, no holiness apart from CHRIST, no exception, no matter how often someone worshpis some man made deity named “Yahweh”!
      The content is important, not the lable!
      Oh how easily you are deceived by the LABELS !!!

      • Remember what the HS said the other day!? …”they defame my name, those who accuse my people of worshiping anyone other than me…..”

        WOW! and then look at what you wrote above….

  24. adon olam – king of the universe

  25. oseh shalom – prayer for peace

  26. Gam Ki Eilech – even though I walk in the valley of death

  27. Arim Roshi – song for fallen soldier- I will raise my head – notice they pray on the battlefield

  28. Avinu Malkeinu – our father our king

    • They belong to the synagogue of Satan. They are a*s kissers.

      They are the kind of people who would sell out their own mother. Like snakes looking for a good deal.

      The one on the right is wearing a shawl for the PLO Terrorists group. So he supports terrorism against ISrael., and actually anyone who is not muslim.

      They are anti-semitic Jews. Traitors, who sell out millions of people to bloodthirsty terrorists, to guarantee their own safety and welfare. They are the Judas types who would crucify Christ for 30 pieces of silver, and not repent.

      THey do not know their own bible. They were never told by God that they were forbidden to have their own state. This land is a promise of God to Israel forever.

      They are stupid, to think Muslims lived there before the Jews. They also do not know or care about their own history.

      Muslims did not exist until the 1500’s and the so called Palestinians showed up after the Israelis started to come back to the land, because they thought they could get jobs with them. The Jews had been there for thousands of years, just not always organized as a state.

      Israel is not rebelling against God, they are.

      The endless river of blood that has been shed was shed by Palestinian terrorists, not Israelis. Palestinians even kill their own people.

      I have bulletins that come in every month documenting from local papers the hatred and persecution of non- muslims, christians and jews – in muslim countries, including Turkey.

      I am not going to address any more of their ignorance, or allow any more of this to be posted here. You seem to be drawn to this, and only want to think along these negative lines. You also do not listen to or accept any other view, so discussions should stop here.

      No more anti-semitic propaganda. This is not a site for people to propagate lies, and hate about any nation.

      • The Jews in The stat of Israel are not happy that the Shabat has been taken away.
        Israelites work on the sabbath.
        The sores are opened.
        They even order Chines food on the Shabat, thereby making others work.
        Now you tell me what is up with this.
        Since Moses they have kept the Shabat, peacefully and now parking lots are full.
        Construction and exercises occurring on the very day commanded by God to
        keep holy.
        If you are ignorant of the news marianne that is not my fault.
        I could right now present much evidence of this.
        The bars and clubs are opened on the sabbath …
        strip clubs etc just like vegas!

        • And our Father will handle it! tattle tale 🙂

          • Lindsey do not refer to name calling please.
            There is a great danger in what is occurring.
            You think wrongly of me.

            The Lord does reveal secrets you know.
            I have not mocked you … or anyone else.

            • Huh? lighten up Abigail…your comment sounded like a tattle tale…Stop judging and start loving! And as far as secrets…what are you talking about…the only time that the HS reveals a secret/knowledge is for protection…it is also called discernment and what I am discerning from you at this point is not good!

              • The Holy Spirit reveals only secrets for protection??
                Where did you got that from??

                • Personal Experience!

                  Silvan, Have you received the Baptism in the Holy Spirit?

                • 1 Corinthians 2 >>
                  New International Version

                  ——————————————————————————–

                  1When I came to you, brothers, I did not come with eloquence or superior wisdom as I proclaimed to you the testimony about God.a 2For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 3I came to you in weakness and fear, and with much trembling. 4My message and my preaching were not with wise and persuasive words, but with a demonstration of the Spirit’s power, 5so that your faith might not rest on men’s wisdom, but on God’s power.

                  Wisdom From the Spirit

                  6We do, however, speak a message of wisdom among the mature, but not the wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are coming to nothing. 7No, we speak of God’s secret wisdom, a wisdom that has been hidden and that God destined for our glory before time began. 8None of the rulers of this age understood it, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 9However, as it is written:

                  “No eye has seen,

                  no ear has heard,

                  no mind has conceived

                  what God has prepared for those who love him”b—

                  10but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit.

                  The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God. 11For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man’s spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 12We have not received the spirit of the world but the Spirit who is from God, that we may understand what God has freely given us. 13This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words.c 14The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15The spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man’s judgment:

                  16“For who has known the mind of the Lord

                  that he may instruct him?”d

                  But we have the mind of Christ.

        • Israel still observes the shabat.

          Why don’t you go there and see for yourself.

          Jesus said the Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

          People were meant to enjoy the Sabbath, and rest.

          Some people rest, some go to dinner, some have to work in hospitals…..you are demonizing Jews again with defamatory insinuations. You are out of balance in your views.

          This site presupposes a certain level of comprehension, tolerance, and scholarship.

          You might find another website more compatible with where you are at right now, than here.

          • The sabbath is a commandment of Hashem to His people.
            How can you say the state of Israel is observing and enjoying the Sabbath ?
            Work is work!
            So Israel is again a slave.

          • Yes marianne
            you would most likely prefer your visitors to admire YOU and flatter YOU and be in total agreement with YOU.
            You have said some vicious things to me …
            I have so far ignored it.
            I do not visit here to look for compatibility …
            i thought you were interested in truth?

            • TRUTH, Yes, NOT Hate propaganda! NOT “you tube scripture”; NOT he said she said so It has to be true…

            • And the truth shall set you free….and the HS will lead you into all truth….NOT YOU TUBE
              Jesus says, I am the WAY, THE TRUTH and the LIFE

              • I have a word for you Lindsey …
                Remember it when it happens.
                You will be told to go NORTH!

                • No offense to you…I will heed My Father’s voice and not yours. My sheep will know my voice…

            • I am not posting lies and hate, via you tube. You are. Your videos are vicious. and meant to hurt others.

              You are not capable of discerning the truth, and people are tired of explaining it to you.

              And I am telling you that you are not up to the standards of behavior for this site. Any more videos and hate website links will be deleted from now on.

              • I too have a word for you given to me last october.
                When I heard and seen it I must admit I was confused.
                I heard your voice saying ‘I am sorry Abigail! so very sorry!’
                And I saw your face and it was distorted.

                The hand of The lord will bring this to pass.
                In my heart I forgive you.
                You will remember that I’ve told you so when it happens.
                Good bye marianne

                • My heart goes out to you Abigail. I don’t know you but G-D does. I will continue to pray for you. The HS was sent by Jesus for this very reason, to guide us, comfort us and to lead us into ALL TRUTH. I do pray that you will see the HATE that was brought forth thru the videos and how this caused G-dS people to be misunderstood and ultimately killed.

                • Abigail

                  You are in serious spiritual trouble. I do not owe you any apology for defending innocent people against you. You do not walk in truth, but in self deception. You do not want to hear the truth either, which is worse. It is my job to point this out.

                  Your false prophecy does not intimidate me, or impress me that you are spiritual. You are listening to demons, not God.

                  You have a delusion of grandeur and exalt yourself over others as you grovel in satanic lies and slander against others. You live in a dark world, not one of the light of Jesus and the gospel. You have no idea who Jesus really is. But you cover this up with false prophecy, to impress, but there is no truth in it.

                  You are prideful, hateful, condemning, obsessed with dark views of good people. You attack others who do not agree with you. You are preoccupied with aliens, not Jesus. You do not impressed me as saved.

                  You may have had a supernatural experience and deliverance from death, which only God can do, but the enemy has come in to destroy what God has done in you.

                  He is taking that all away by leading you into dark thinking. You have a mental awareness of Jesus, yet you are missing his spirit. You have a religious spirit, and need deliverance. If you don’t get deliverance, you will never get along with others.

                  You are under demonic influence. Someone has to tell you. Your posts, sinister accusations against others and Israel, is proof of this. You persist in Nazi thinking, you are condemning, your behavior is attacking, and all you see is darkness and evil in good people.

                  I try to help you see the good in Israel, and you reject this. You want to destroy and condemn. This is Satan’s goal, to turn Christians against Israel, because he wants its destruction. You are falling for his deception.

                  Sure many people are not saved, but you, yourself, do not reflect the love of Christ, or act in a Christ like manner either. How do we know you are not saved also? You do not act saved.

                  You are judgmental to the point of condemnation. And God will judge you as you have judged others. Your behavior and obsession with hate media and lies is evidence of this demonic oppression.

                  You will never be happy, on earth or later, until you receive the peace and love of Jesus in your heart. You do not show this now. You have a need to attack innocent people, and believe slander against them. You will not relent, and love them. I suggest you go within yourself and ask God to deliver you.

                  You are under demonic influence, and someone has to tell you. Go back and read all your posts. Have you ever said you felt the love of Jesus? have you ever expressed the peace of the holy spirit? Do you feel joy in your life? have you shared your joy? Are you excited about the return of Jesus? Have you ever said anything positive about others? Is all you have to contribute is “facts” from the internet and mental awareness of Christ, but you do not know who he is personally? Your mind is aware of Jesus, but your soul does not express him.

                  I love you and you are in my prayers. I have to tell you all this, if I want to see you get some help. It sounds harsh, but the reality you presented to me is harsh, and I have to address it, if I care about your soul.

                  I wish you well.

                  marianne

                  • Re: Abigail…”I heard your voice saying ‘I am sorry Abigail! so very sorry!”

                    I thought of this today…what if you saying to Abigail…I am so sorry…as in she is in trouble…as in, I wish you would have heeded the truth..just a thought

          • Going to stripped clubs and that on the Sabbath is not exactly holy in my view.
            Gambling on the sabbath is not holy.
            Not that it is at any time … but never on the Sabbath if you honour and LOVE The HOLY one of ISRAEL.
            Those that do wish to follow the commands of The Lord in the ‘holy land’ are like Lot …
            They are vexed!

            • your sounding like a pharisee….Matthew 12: Lord of the Sabbath

              1At that time Jesus went through the grainfields on the Sabbath. His disciples were hungry and began to pick some heads of grain and eat them. 2When the Pharisees saw this, they said to him, “Look! Your disciples are doing what is unlawful on the Sabbath.”

              3He answered, “Haven’t you read what David did when he and his companions were hungry? 4He entered the house of God, and he and his companions ate the consecrated bread—which was not lawful for them to do, but only for the priests. 5Or haven’t you read in the Law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple desecrate the day and yet are innocent? 6I tell you that onea greater than the temple is here. 7If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’b you would not have condemned the innocent. 8For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

              9Going on from that place, he went into their synagogue, 10and a man with a shriveled hand was there. Looking for a reason to accuse Jesus, they asked him, “Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath?”

              11He said to them, “If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? 12How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”

              13Then he said to the man, “Stretch out your hand.” So he stretched it out and it was completely restored, just as sound as the other. 14But the Pharisees went out and plotted how they might kill Jesus.

              *Let Jesus do the judging….judge not, lest you be judged….and by the way, How do you KNOW that these things are occuring on the sabbath in Israel? are you there-seeing with your own eyes or are you seeing this on You Tube? The news?

          • Selling and buying on the sabbath day is not holy.
            Jesus overturned the tables at one point.
            He will do it again!
            But this time … they will never again set them up!

            • If my child is hungry and it is the sabbath I will feed him…even it means going to Mcdonalds….since he has Autism and is very picky about what he eats….according to your paradigm I should let him starve until the sunsets-sabbath over. And the people serving him at the Mcdonalds are blessed in that they are providing for a special needs child! It isn’t always “black and white” and this is what Jesus was trying to explain to the pharisees..he who has ears let him/her hear…

        • I remember an article somewhere (paraphrasing here)that mentioned that PM Nethanyahu was observing the sabbath…further discussions, with whomever, would commence on Sunday!

      • I am in complete agreement with you Marianne-I also posted the below video so as to “give the big picture” to Abigail and Silvan as to where their attitudes will eventually lead….all in the name of “god”.

        I am in complete shock over the comments by Abigail and Silvan of all people…we are Christians right? this means we worship the all mighty G-D! Out of Love, Honor and RESPECT we Love HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE and just as He is and always will defend them SO SHALL WE!!

        Shalom!

        • I worship Yehoshua!
          and I keep the commands of my Father!

          I’ve presented much evidence that the state of Israel is zipped up like a zipper.
          A planned sacrifice to Moloch by those ‘fake’ …
          It is you who is blind.

          Don’t be shock … just look closely!

        • The Jews are not the chosen people, but a people chosen to carry G-d’s law. They failed, but G-d will continue to uphold his end of the bargin.

      • “They belong to the synagogue of Satan. They are a*s kissers.

        They are the kind of people who would sell out their own mother. Like snakes looking for a good deal.”

        Asskissers, Nazis, snakes… oh my dear God…
        this is a Jew!!!
        YOU ARE AN ANTISEMIT!!!!

        (Do you note that I never used those abusive languages for anyone? YOU DO!! And ironically you are speaking it against a Semite, YOU ANTI SEMITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

    • They are making fun of the Turks who pretended to be peaceful when they really had terrorist intent. They are speaking as if they are Turks.

      They are pretending to be the Turks and bragging about their hypocrisy and plans against Israel.

      The Israelis are essentially communicating that they are not stupid and are aware of the tricks of the enemy.

      What they are saying about the Turks is true….the Turks came to make a show…to trick and trap the Israelis into a blood fight, so they can proclaim they are victims.

      The Turks “conned the world.” pretending to be peaceful, when it was all a tick, and were bold enough to assume that everyone would believe their lie. The world would “abandon reason” to support the deceitful Muslims.

      The Turks know that the world is so evil that it will believe their lies, they have knives and weapons, but they know the world will blame Israel, not them.

      The Israelis understand their enemies, and they are exposing them for what they are.

      The truth is that all peaceful boats went through, and only the militants were stopped.

      • That was funny!

      • and G-Ds people kicked B-t once again!!! woo hoo….and “i call it a gun…BANG!” LOL

        • They are people of G-d, not G-d’s people. Some chose not to be people of G-d.

          • Deuteronomy 7:6 says, “For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.” This does not mean they are automatically “saved” and will go to Heaven. In order to assurance of eternal life in heaven, one must believe in God’s Son, Jesus. Because of God’s Promise to redeem the Jews in the end times, Israel will turn to her Messiah and be saved. So, in the meantime, any believers in Jesus are “grafted in” and may partake of the Tree of Life
            http://www.allabouttruth.org/gods-chosen-people-faq.htm

    • RACIST NAZIS THOUGHTS BECOME REALITY-STOP IT NOW ABIGAIL!!!! YOU are the one UNDER A SPELL!!

  29. Reiteraiting facts:

    -the Jews not accepting Jesus are CUT OFF from the fig tree!!!!
    Simple as that. FIG TEE/ ISRAEL is now only the believers in CHRIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    -the Jews are not holy (abortion, homosexuality, every other sin)
    -Ez.37: the regathering of Israel begins with resurrection of the dead

    • Silvan,

      NO ONE IS HOLY….Only G-D, HIS Son and HS!

    • Israel is the Fig tree. But, it is reborn to show G-d keeps his word, even when humans that said they will keep their oath to G-d do not.

      All are guilty of sin. All knees bow at Judgement day.

      The regathering of Israel began in 1948, and continues today. The resurrection of Christ’s Church maybe the start of the Anti-Christ’s rein, and a seven year peace treaty between Israel, and it’s enemys.

  30. Asskisser, snake, Nazi…

    You are a slanderer Marianne. Not me. You.

    You are showing your true face.
    I am out off here.

    Have a good life with your slander and your lies and little gods.

    • Silvan

      You are under demonic influence. Someone has to tell you. Your posts, sinister accusations against others and Israel, is proof of this. you persist in Nazi thinking, you are condemning, your behavior is attacking, and all you see is darkness and evil in good people.

      I try to help you see the good in Israel, and you reject this. You want to destroy and condemn. This is Satan’s goal, to turn Christians against Israel, because he wants its destruction. You are falling for his deception.

      Sure many people are not saved, but you, yourself, do not reflect the love of Christ, or act in a Christ like manner. How do we know you are not saved also? You do not act saved.

      You are judgmental to the point of condemnation. And God will judge you as you have judged others. Your behavior and obsession with hate media and lies is evidence of this demonic oppression.

      You will never be happy, on earth or later, until you receive the peace and love of Jesus in your heart. You do not show this now. You have a need to attack innocent people, and believe slander against them. You will not relent, and love them. I suggest you go within yourself and ask God to deliver you.

      You are under demonic influence, and someone has to tell you. Go back and read all your posts. Have you ever said you felt the love of Jesus? have you ever expressed the peace of the holy spirit? Do you feel joy in your life? have you shared your joy? Are you excited about the return of Jesus? Have you ever said anything positive about others? Is all you have to contribute is “facts” from the internet and mental awareness of Christ, but you do not know who he is personally? Your mind is aware of Jesus, but your soul does not express him.

      I love you and you are in my prayers.

  31. From a strip-club website in TEL-Aviv:
    “«SHENDU» PRESENTS THE MOST TEMPTING AND SEDUCTIVE GIRLS IN TEL-AVIV!
    Every evening we welcome you in our wine-coloured hall..
    NON- STOP SHOW!
    «SHENDU» girls are real angels with devils in their eyes!”

    “EVERY EVENING”

    http://www.shendustrip.co.il/club/eng/

    This truth makes you REALLY angry, right?????
    It is slander and anti semitism, right?
    I do not love, right??

    But SURE they are holy!
    And surely this is what the LORD approves!

    Oh ye hypocrites!

    Go back to sleep!
    BYE

    • Silvan,

      You need to find yourself decent girl and get married!

      Stop visiting websites of strip clubs, especially Israeli ones…I have to dissapoint you, but majority of “night butterflies” in Israel are Russian, not Jewish.

    • silvan

      This last post is a good example of the condition of your mind.
      you only see the Jews as evil, and hypocrites. This is what Satan wants you to see, and you are cooperating. Are you holy? Then why are you looking into strip clubs?

      other points:

      1.

      First you attack all Jews as under the satanic star of David, then you defend the Jews who condemn Israel. You don’t see a problem with this? Even these Jews, Jesus would have rejected in his time here. These Jews are setting up Israel for destruction, they are traitors, and are encouraging another holocaust. No, you have not used the same language, but the condemnation of the words and medic you presented substitutes for it. You are still anti-Semitic.

      I have yet to hear you say anything good about Israel. You are drawn to negative sources.

      2. As Gavriel says, those are Russians in those clubs, not Israelis. He lives there. He should know. See how you hate and condemn. You would never post a video on good Israeli people.

      3. Music is a good clue to people’s hearts. The Jewish people are longing for their messiah, and I showed proof of this. You just reject them as evil, and want them destroyed.

      4. Gavriel is right. The time of the gentiles is over. Christians have failed to bring the gospel to Jews, instead they persecute them. God will judge the Christians for this sin of hate.

      5. The Pentecostal movement is genuine. There are always those who go astray, but it is not a false movement.

      6. If you can only post anti-Semitic propaganda, and nothing positive about Jews, that would imply you are anti-Semitic.

      7. salvation of the Jews is not an issue here. We know most are not saved. But you see nothing in them worth saving. This is obvious by the media you post.

      8. people in your country are homosexual and commit abortions. Why don’t you attack your country for this? Why is only Israel mentioned?

      9. How can you call yourself holy when you contaminate yourself with lies and distortions from the media?

  32. Abigail, Silvan,

    You both are living scum!

    That’s an insult for the sake of an insult, coming out from a Messianic Jew;

    Thankfully, Jesus didn’t reveal Himself to me through “christians” like you, that’s why Jesus is very tolerant and long-suffering for the Jews who do not accept Him – He knows that once He reveals Himself to them, like Joseph revealed Himself to his brothers, Jews will accept Him in a single moment! Jesus purposefully hardened the heart of the Priests and Pharisees in the Temple, like when He hardened heart of the Pharaoh, not because they were particulary wicked, but he wanted that even the simple people would have share in the wisdom of Torah, not only the privileged; Times of the gentiles are over, so gentiles have no authority anymore to teach Jews about Jesus, if you would know then number of people to whom Jesus revealed himself, you would be shocked, even ultra-orthodox Jews…

    • I agree. Hatred and prejudice is not evidence of the Holy SPirit in a person’s life..

      • Marianne,

        Sorry, but I got emotional and most probably hateful, when I think about how this kind of propaganda sent millions of Jews to gas chambers, and children were killed in front of their parent’s eyes!

        Did Prophet Jeremiah have Holy Spirit when he spoke these words against his enemies:

        59 O LORD, Thou hast seen my wrong; judge Thou my cause. 60 Thou hast seen all their vengeance and all their devices against me. {S} 61 Thou hast heard their taunt, O LORD, and all their devices against me; 62 The lips of those that rose up against me, and their muttering against me all the day. 63 Behold Thou their sitting down, and their rising up; I am their song. {S} 64 Thou wilt render unto them a recompense, O LORD, according to the work of their hands. 65 Thou wilt give them hardness of heart, Thy curse unto them. 66 Thou wilt pursue them in anger, and destroy them from under the heavens of the LORD.
        Lamentations Chapter 3

  33. I understand where Silvan is coming from. Don’t be so harsh on him. When I went to Israel for the first time in 1992 and was in Jerusalem I saw Israelis partying like Americans and I couldn’t stop weeping. They admire Americans. They want to be just like us. I also was warned about Israeli men. I was single at the time. I’ve always seen my faith through Jewish eyes. I didn’t celebrate Christmas for 10 years and I went around trying to educate everyone that Jesus wasn’t born in December. My family didn’t change their beliefs, but they came to accept mine. My daughter was and is always telling me mom: “You’re not Jewish”.

    • The irony of the whole thing is that both secular and ultra-orthodox Jewish approach to Sabbath is identical to Jesus’ approach when he reprimanded the Pharisees – religious Jews allow that hospitals and its staff should work on Sabbath, even when it’s not about life and death, just like Jesus propagated healing on Sabbath; Jesus would also drink and eat with the sinners, just like secular Israelis don’t mind going out and have fun on Sabbath…

  34. If Gavriel lives in Israel then maybe he needs to go talk to other Messianic Jews, because I can post a whole slew of videos of what they have to say, that shows just the opposite of what you are saying. You forget I spent literally a year sitting on this computer researching this. I want to know the truth and I want to honor the Lord.

    • Hi Kitti,

      I don’t belong to any religious group, Christian or Jewish, I think that the most accurate approach to Torah is Ultra-Orthodox Judaism, only authentic Judaism has the keys to understanding of the scriptures, including Talmud;

      I didn’t came to Jesus through Christians, but as strange as it may sound – through persecution of satanist witches…after I made it clear to them that I chose to remain on the LORD’s side, they decided to kill me…they told me that I already have no choice, ’cause I used to much privileges of the dark side and have to give up my soul, amidst terrible desperation LORD Jesus Christ revealed Himself to me and until today protects me against witchcraft and sorcery…

  35. The saying goes:

    Two Jews, Three opinions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. I love Pastor Wilkerson. He has just the right words, at the right time. What a man of God.

    David Wilkerson Today

    WEDNESDAY, JUNE 30, 2010

    GO AHEAD AND CRY

    When you hurt the worst—go to your secret closet and weep out all your
    despair!

    Jesus wept. Peter wept—bitterly! Peter carried with him the hurt of denying
    the very Son of God. Those bitter tears worked in him a sweet miracle. He came
    back to shake the kingdom of Satan.

    Jesus never looks away from a crying heart. He said, “A broken and a contrite
    heart, O God, thou wilt not despise” (Psalm 51:17). Not once will the Lord say,
    “Get hold of yourself! Stand up and take your medicine! Grit your teeth and dry
    your tears.” No! Jesus stores every tear in his eternal container.

    Do you hurt? Badly? Then go ahead and cry! And keep on crying, until the tears
    stop flowing. But let those tears originate only from hurt—and not from
    unbelief or self-pity.

    Life goes on. You would be surprised how much you can bear with God helping
    you. Happiness is not living without pain or hurt. True happiness is learning
    how to live one day at a time, in spite of all the sorrow and pain. It is
    learning how to rejoice in the Lord, no matter what has happened in the past.

    You may feel rejected. You may feel abandoned. Your faith may be weak. You may
    think you are down for the count. Sorrow, tears, pain, and emptiness may
    swallow you up at times, but God is still on his throne. He is still God!

    You can’t help yourself. You can’t stop the pain and hurt. But our blessed Lord
    will come to you, and he will place his loving hand under you and lift you up to
    sit again in heavenly places. He will deliver you from the fear of dying. He
    will reveal his endless love for you.

    Look up! Encourage yourself in the Lord. When the fog surrounds you and you
    can’t see any way out of your dilemma—lie back in the arms of Jesus and
    simply trust him. He wants your faith—your confidence. He wants you to cry
    aloud—”Jesus loves me! He is with me! He will not fail me! He is working it
    all out right now! I will not be cast down! I will not be defeated! I will not
    be a victim of Satan! God is on my side! I love him—and he loves me!”

    The bottom line is faith. And faith rests on this one absolute: “No weapon that
    is formed against thee shall prosper…” (Isaiah 54:17).

  37. Lyndsey;
    you’re funny. I laughed.

  38. Gavriel
    There’s a really good book I gave my Israeli friends by a really good author. I ordered 3 copies in paperback. I picked it up at a used Bible Book store in the 1990’s. It answers a lot of questions. It was called:

    http://www.amazon.com/Bible-Supernatural-Jews-McCandlish-Phillips/dp/0871230364

    Here’s more information about the author:

    http://www.kenauletta.com/themanwhodisappeared.html

    http://www.worldji.com/phillips/Phillips.asp

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/05/03/AR2005050301277.html

    It has some prophecies concerning Israel. Israel is going to be doing alright. At least until the middle of the tribulation. It’s us in America who should be concerned especially with that oil spill in the gulf. As Christians we should not be fighting. That’s what the devil wants. What would non-believers think if they come on this blog and see the way we speak to each other. Believe me with over one million hits they are visiting here.

  39. The Iconic “Live Long and Prosper” Hand Gesture Was Originally a Jewish Sign

    http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2010/06/the-iconic-live-long-and-prosper-hand-gesture-was-originally-a-jewish-sign/

    May I add, that this sign is used by modern day satanists, and by many in music industry like Jay-Z who I assume also worship the devil…though originally it is Aharonic Priestly blessing originated in Torah!

  40. Marrianne, Please, Please, Please, visit this Website site and look over the Question and Answers portion: http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/index.cfm

    These are not bad jews that are afraid to fight for Israel. They are Orthodox Jews who are truly waiting for the Messaiah. They are humble and have the right heart. Regardless if you agree or not, they have the desire to do Gods will.

    I am part jewish (by blood) and a christian. God has been revealing so much to me lately about Zionism and their evil agenda. We as christians have been soo decieved by the New World Agenda and from the Christian (False)churches that are so worldly and decieved by the Satan himself.

    • Rachel

      I know about them. I disagree with them, because they are ignorant and completely wrong.

      They do not know their own scriptures or prophecies. They disgrace Israel by making up things about Torah, that cause others to mistreat and misjudge Israel.

      They actually think the Torah forbids them to go back to the land, when it never says that. If nothing else, it says the opposite,and this is reinforced by the rest of the Tenach. Their ignorance propagated will help contribute to the deaths of a multitude of innocent Israeli people.

      Israel belongs there right now, it is NOT a human conspiracy. Man may have cooperated, but the spirit of god has brought people back to the land, as prophesied, and it will continue until Armageddon, when Messiah comes to save the Jewish people. The people have to precede his appearance, or there is no reason for Messiah to come.

  41. In the name of YESHUA HA MASHIACH i pray BELOVED HEAVENLY FATHER YHVH , please you said it was needed that you went away so the HEAVENLY FATHER send us the RUACH HA QODESH. BELOVED HEAVENLY FATHER please lst all who wrote in about this star of David have revelation from you backed up by your word what is the truth about it and or what is not not true about it so it will be known once and for all what we should know and think about this star of David for it is written in your word where there is striff every evil work abounds . The purpose of this web i think is to bring people to repentance and aacceptance of JESUS CHRIST YESHUA HA MASHIACH as their LORD and SAVIOR. So please reveal AND MAKE IT CLEAR SO THAT ALL CAN UNDERSTAND who are reading this and writting in their thoughts on this web the truth on this subject matter about the star of David. Amen. Thank you Abba HEAVENLY FATHER for hearing and answering my prayer for the truth about this star of David to be REVEALED to all who are concerned or wrote in their thoughts on this web page about the star of David subject by the power of your RUACH HA QODESH THE HOLY SPIRIT and by your WORD the HOLY BIBLE. TO YOU BE ALL GLORY , HONOR AND PRAISE.

    MAY LOVE PREVAIL IN ALL OUR HEARTS FOR OUR LORD GOD ALMIGHTY AND FOR EACH OTHER AND BE OVERCOMERS .

    • Hi Nhel,

      I had posted a few weeks ago what I heard from the Holy Spirit regarding the star of David, “they defame my name, those who accuse My people of worshiping anyone other than Me…ask yourself, who was David?…I AM their shield. I know with certaintly this came from the HS 1) because of His track record-accurate and 2) I had no idea that the star of David was also referred to as the Shield of David until AFTER the HS said the above and 3) my sheep will hear my voice. I list the above because I know you don’t know me and we must always test the spirits…it is for sure the words of the Holy Spirit regarding the star of david.

  42. This was definitely an interesting You Tube. Whose country is it? Israel at war with itself. The Mashiach is the only answer. What a messed up world we live in. All you hear of is fighting.

  43. I wanted to post this over over on the wings and sacrifices of the temple but you closed it. So I guess it goes here.

  44. I always seem to get in on the tail end of these discussions and then it doesn’t go anywhere. Unfortunately, I can’t write, so all I can do is post videos and links and pray you get it. You closed “wings and sacrifices of the temple, because

    “I might re-open this page, if I think there will be more scholarly interest in it.”

    I think Pastor Hoggard is quoting the Bible throughout his whole lecture.

    I became aware of Freemasonry when I got my first computer back in 1997.
    I wasn’t really searching after these subjects but one of the first links I came across was:

    http://www.crystalinks.com/directory2.html

    http://www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/stargates.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/solomonstemple.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/sacred_geometry.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/judaism.html
    http://www.crystalinks.com/merkaba.html

    Isn’t it a Star of David a
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetrahedron?

    A lot of these subjects you are talking about
    metraton:
    http://www.crystalinks.com/metatron.html
    teleporation
    http://www.crystalinks.com/teleportation.html

    Elie is talking about on her web site.

    I wish there were more Jews contributing to this blog like Mizhahi who could give more insight into these things so ignorant gentile Christians like myself could understand it better and get a better perspective on these things besides yours.

    For those of you who aren’t aware Freemssonry is openly practiced in Israel. Here’s the web sites:

    http://www.freemasonry.org.il/subjects.html
    http://www.freemasonry.org.il/
    http://www.mastermason.com/fmisrael/

    • hi kitti

      I got the impression that there is an ancient Hebrew version of metatron, and then there is a “new age” version.

      • Marianne,

        Rely on ancient hebrew tradition (on Metatron), that’s what HS revealed to me…to search within and delight in ancient hebrew traditions such as Dead Sea Scrolls, Zohar and Talmud … “THEY” are hiding it on purpose – the fact that ancient Jewish mystics secretly believed that Yehoshuah is Mashiach, that’s why Qumran society and many Rabbis who wrote Talmud, Midrash and Zohar were persecuted by fellow Jews and Romans, soon everything will be revealed!

  45. The Covenant of Peace; A Date is Revealed

    In the Torah portion Pinchas, we find a broken letter vav(V) in the phrase “The Covenant of Peace,” the reward given to Pinchas by G-d for selflessly stopping the plague with his spear. Last week we revealed a new, yet ancient, and very telling gematria cipher, and when applied to “The Covenant of Peace,” a date is revealed, the same date given to us by Rav Yehuda HaLevi Ashlag and the tzaddikim for the geula (final redemption).

    First, we must note that the Hebrew letters are like holograms in that even a part of them contains the entire image (letter). Thus the broken vav (V), shaped like Pinchas’ spear, is numerically equal to two Vavs(V,V). That said, The Covenant of Peace,” Et Briti Shalom (ET BRYTY ShLVM) has a total new gematria value 2017 when the kolel for the 12 letters is included. The year 2017 CE is the beginning of the year 5778 HC that Rav Ashlag and others have given for the revelation of the Tree-of-life reality.

    Moreover, if we only consider a singular vav in the word Peace (Shalom), in other words, if we consider it as a broken peace, the new gematria reveals the year 2010, leaving us the 8 years of the Brit (covenant) of Moshiach (the Messiah, also know as the Prince of Peace) to complete the tumultuous “birthpages of Moshiach,” as the sages and prophets have described it in 5778.

    In the next few days, we’ll also reveal how a revered representation of that same spear in Washington D.C. reveals this same date, but by a different and no less telling method. And also how the 42 letters of the Tree-of-life’s 10 sefirot (dimensions) also give us the date 2017.

    http://kabbalahsecrets.com/

    • you lost me gavriel!Not understanding

      • I don’t understanf it fully either, but all calculations seem to point at the year 2018 as year of arrival of Mashiach – Jewish year 5778, this means that tribulation starts in 2011/12…

        • I don’t care when the tribulation starts…just wanna know when WE LEAVE! LOL 🙂

          • Acc.to Family Radio MAY 21, 2011

            http://www.familyradio.com/graphical/literature/judgment/judgment.html

            • that is convincing to say the least. Noticing the date, I remember a dream a few months back and went looking for it to find the date I had the dream-it took me only a few seconds to find it-coincidence?…anyway, here is the dream and the date I had the dream…

              Here is the “dream” I had on Saturday, March 13th, 2010:

              I just had the most amazing dream that I had to share it here…was trying to find the right post to put it:

              In my dream, I am in the passenger seat of a white truck that my friend (former friend in reality; we haven’t spoken since last summer due to her being involved in witchcraft etc) is driving. We are at the gas station. As we are turning around the corner beside the gas station I see in the sky the most AMAZING Beautiful sight! I saw the sun rays shining thru clouds and the clouds begin to make the formation of a hand. I thought this was so unique and beautiful and told my friend to LOOK, LOOK! I looked over at her and saw that she wasn’t looking at all, granted she was driving, but this was AMAZING! So I jumped out of the truck so that I wouldn’t miss such a beautiful display. I had also seen across the street another group of people, about 3 of them also getting out of their truck to look. Then the display of clouds forming into a hand actually became a real HAND! WOW….While standing there, I notice that the hand points one of its fingers and its pointing at me!!!!!(when I remembered the dream again, I had actually run towards where G-D was pointing with his Right Hand) Then I saw the group of people across the street looking up and then one of the ladies with them, wearing green shorts (have no idea why I remembered that) was floating upward. I thought WOW….and then I felt this most awesome tingling sensation go thru out my body (reminded me of when I received the Baptism in the HOly Spirit) and I felt myself being lifted up as well…I then realized what was going on and I looked towards my friend who was now in front of the truck looking at the same thing and I said “its the rapture! Its time! Its time!” I remember the look on her face; she was not happy…and then I thought to myself, “who is going to take care of my dogs” and then I woke up!

              lyndsey said this on March 13, 2010 at 9:16 pm | Reply

            • Gavriel and Lyndsey

              Interesting how all things come together. From different posts I have made, estimating the time, not knowing the Kabbalah, or other sources, I came up with the same approximate time. This was based on Yeshua’s statement of one generation, and other criteria. I was thinking of May 2011 also. These posts are on various pages, which I would have to search through them to find which ones said this.

              Also, it was in May this year that 3 of us heard a “trumpet” sound. It was at the time of Pentecost – within a week of that feast – for all of us.

              This will make the next year interesting, for sure. If we are wrong, then we have a little more time. If right, then it will be an eventful time, one to test our faith even more. But we will get through it, with God’s help.

            • so pre-tribulation then if we are “raptured” in May 2011

  46. Gavriel;

    Why are you following the Kabbalah?

    • Because it derives from tradition of the Holy Prophets, it helps to understand deep things of Torah and words of Yehoshuah!

      Soon the truth will be revealed – that before destruction of Judea by Romans, many Rabbis secretly believed in Yehoshuah!

  47. Well, with all the different theories criculating out there, I’ll just wait until the Holy Spirit tells me to “pack a bag”..LOL or rather “LOOK UP” Woo hoo!

  48. All you need is the pure word of God and the Holy Spirit to teach you. Why do you think there are so many Christian denominations and Jewish groups? It’s a trick of the devil. He wants to cause confusion. The trick works!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I’ll pray for you. I hope you connect up with believers in Israel. Thank God you can find some of them, now a days. It wasn’t always so easy to find them or there weren’t that many of them.

    Mazel Tov

  49. Hey Marianne, I have a questio regarding ” B’Av 5770,..” does this mean five thousand, seven hundred and seventy years since Adam?

    I found that verse I was telling you about where G-D tells us how long we will be here…here it is..not sure how to calculate it
    Genesis 6:3 the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

    120 years…..I remember some thinking this meant how old we could live….but G-D is saying here that his spirit can only contend with us for 120 years…it can’t mean 120 years period cause that has come and gone…we are now almost 6000 years since Adam…right?

    Is there a way to get a hold of the original writing with a translation?

  50. I know this has nothing to do with this post….but when you read Genesis 6:3…it appears to “change the subject quickly” after the final “for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years.”” because it starts talking about the Nephilim in verse 4…neither one has to do with the other…am I missing something…or rather, is the BIBLE missing something…say, more scripture after verse 3..?

    • The 5770 is years since Adam.

      The interbreeding had been going on that long – 20 years, then 100 years to build the ark.

      Sound like it only takes a short time – 20 years until God’s patience runs out, but he gives us 100 years to prepare for his judgment/ punishment.

      • If its 5770 years since Adam, then wouldn’t we have another 130 years at least left? I say this due to the theory that suggests we are here for 6000 years (G-D created the earth in 6 days and on the 7th He rested…a day is as a thousand years to G-D and a thousand years is as a day)

        So, if we are in 5770 year, then we are in day 5.7 of creation right? then we would have another day and a half to go…

        • I am not sure. I heard there were some lost years. But the Jews don’t think so. Maybe how they estimated when Adam began might be a bit off. Or maybe we are off too.

          • Acc. to tradition Adam sinned in 6th hour on Friday evening several hours before Sabbath, Yehoshua was crucified in 6th hour also on Friday…Second Coming thus occurs on universal clock, seceral hours before Sabbath ie year 6,000…

            • he will come back in the evening too. maybe about 6 pm Israel time. 🙂

              Zec 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light.

            • he will come back in the evening too. maybe about 6 pm Israel time. 🙂

              Zec 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light.

              • I heard interpretation that this will be curses mixed with blessings – because of confusion, people seeing this will wonder whether these are curses or blessings – why Lord split Mount of Olives – to save or to be destroyed in the desert…In my vision I saw an event parallel to Golgotha – at this time wicked will say, because light ceased to shine and there will be continuing twilight for three days, that they “crucified” G-d in heaven, like they crucified Him 2,000 years ago, and that G-d is dead (may the name of the blasphemers rot) and they will order for him a coffin, symbolically performing a funeral, because His light doesn’t shine in heaven anymore and Antichrist now sits in the Temple of G-d…at this time will appear Sign of Son of Man in the sky…

  51. Here is a perfect example of this topic:
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=142

  52. http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=142

  53. Wings and Sacrifice:
    To summarize, there is definitely going to be a third temple. It will most likely be erected at the beginning of the Tribulation in the form of a tent temple, like the Tabernacle of Moses. A more permanent structure will then be built around and above it. The Antichrist will desecrate this temple in the middle of the Tribulation.
    http://www.lamblion.com/articles/articles_jews10.php

    • A third Temple is not mentioned in the Torah ???

      Rabbi Aba said: I have remembered a certain matter I heard from the holy luminary, RABBI SHIMON, who heard it in the name of Rabbi Eliezer. One day a clever gentile came and said to him: Old man, old man, I have three questions that I want to put to you. The first is: You say that another Temple will be built for you, but the Temple is not to be built more than twice. The First Temple and the Second Temple ARE MENTIONED, but you will not find a Third Temple in the Torah, and that which you had to build has already been built, and there will never be another one, for Scripture has referred to the two houses of Yisrael, AND ABOUT THE SECOND TEMPLE it is written: “The glory of this latter house shall be greater than that of the former” (Chagai 2:9).

      …Those matters that that wicked one asked, I too, once asked of Elijah, and he replied that in the academy of the firmament THESE VERY MATTERS were laid out before the Holy One, blessed be He, as follows:

      When Yisrael came out of Egypt, the Holy One, blessed be He, wanted to establish them in the country as are the holy angels on high, and He wanted to build a Temple for them, bring it down from the upper heavens, and plant Yisrael in the land as a holy planting, after the pattern of the heavenly form, as it is written: “You shall bring them in, and plant them in the mountain of Your inheritance” (Shemot 15:17). And where would that be? “in the place, Hashem, which You have made for You to dwell in” (Shemot 15:17). In that PLACE which You, Hashem, have made, and in no other. “The place, Hashem, which You have made for You to dwell in” refers to the First Temple, and the continuation of the verse, “in the sanctuary, Hashem, which Your hands have established,” refers to the Second Temple. Both of them are the work of the Holy One, blessed be He.

      But when they angered Him in the wilderness, they died, and He brought their children into the land, and the Temple was constructed by man, which is why it did not last. FOR THE BUILDING HAS TO BE THE WORK OF THE HOLY ONE, BLESSED BE HE. King Solomon knew that the Temple that he built was built by man and would not therefore last, which is why it is written: “Unless Hashem builds the house, they who build it labor in vain” (Tehilim 127.1) And indeed it no longer exists. In the days of Ezra, because of the sin, they had to rebuild THE TEMPLE, which is why it had no lasting existence. And up until now the first building of the Holy One, blessed be He, has not been placed in the world, but concerning the future it is written: “Hashem builds Jerusalem” (Tehilim 147:2). He WILL BUILD and no other. It is for this building that we are waiting, and not for a structure of man which has no permanence.

      The Holy One, blessed be He, will bring down the First Temple and the Second Temple from on high simultaneously. The First Temple, WHICH IS EQUIVALENT TO BINAH, will be covered, and the Second Temple, WHICH IS PARALLEL TO MALCHUT, will be in the open. That house that is called ‘the Second Temple’ will be in the open so that the art of the Holy One, blessed be He, will be visible to the whole world. AND THEN THERE WILL BE perfect rejoicing, and goodwill throughout its existence.

      The First Temple THAT WILL BE concealed ascends on high over THE SECOND TEMPLE that is revealed, and the whole world will see the clouds of glory that surround the Temple that is revealed, and within those clouds will be the First Temple in a hidden action, rising to the height of the glory of the heavens, WHICH IS BINAH, and this is the building for which we are waiting.

      So far this has not happened in the world, for even the City of Jerusalem will not be the result of man’s skills, for it is written: “for I, says Hashem, will be to her a wall of fire round about, and will be the glory in the midst of her…” (Zecharyah 2:9). If this is what is written about the City, how much more so will this be the case for the Temple, which is His dwelling place. And this action OF THE HOLY ONE, BLESSED BE HE, should have been apparent at the beginning, when Yisrael came out of Egypt, but it was delayed for the End of Days, for the final Redemption.

      (ZOHAR, PINCHAS 24)

      MY CONCLUSION:

      If Israel wouldn’t sin with Golden Calf and Spies then they would directly enter the Promised Land with Moses and Heavenly Temple would descend from above and TWO TRUE TEMPLES would exist side by side – as it was meant from the very beginning acc. to scriptues;

      But, since this didn’t happen Heavenly Temple remained above, while Solomon built temporary Temple, and if Solomon’s generation would be righteous and Solomion wouldn’t take foreign wives, then this temporary structure of Solomon gradually would transform to the form of TRUE TEMPLE in the image of heavenly one;

      Therefore, when Solomon’s Temple was destroyed, IMMIDIATELY IMAGE OF ORIGINAL HEAVENLY TEMPLE WAS ERASED AND INSTEAD NEW IMAGE OF HEAVENLY TEMPLE APPEARED – THIS WAS THE STRUCTURE THAT EZEKIEL SAW IN HIS VISION;

      But, since Babylonian exodus didn’t occur with the same magnitude as exodus from Egypt – with signs and wonders, Zerubabel couldn’t build The Temple described by Ezekiel, and instead temporary structure was built, combining elements from both Solomon’s and Ezekiel’s Temple – with the hope that if Jews would accept YEHOSHUAH HAMASHIACH – it would immediately transform into Heavenly structure that Ezekiel saw;

      Son today, during the great tribulation, THE VERY FIRST TRUE PHYSICAL TEMPLE SHALL BE BUILT ACCORDING TO EZEKIEL’S DESIGN THAT NOW EXISTS IN HEAVEN, AND AFTER IT IS BUILT – HEAVENLY TEMPLE THAT NOW HAS FORM OF EZEKIEL’S TEMPLE WILL BE SUBSTITUTED WITH HEAVENLY TEMPLE THAT EXISTED DURING TIME OF MOSES AND SOLOMON, AND THIS WILL BE THE SECOND TEMPLE – THEREFORE TWO TEMPLES WILL EXISTS PARALLELY ONE ABOVE ANOTHER!

  54. Gavriel;

    Don’t get me wrong. I do try to look at a variety of resources. I know Gary Stearman an J.R. Church have looked at the Zohar. I even got something out of Rabbi Zamir Cohen’s lecture on “The End of the World Prophecy”. (The Parable of the Fish) \

    God even uses Donkeys to get his message out.

    Numbers 22:26-33

    No pun intended.

    I think Alex Jones is being used of God.

    • Zohar is part of Oral Torah, whci hdates back to Moses, Oral Torah is interpretation of written Torah that otherwise would be impossible to interpret;

      Strange, you trust Rabbis that they accurately transmitted Bible for centuries, including meaning of the words and pronunciation, but at the same time are skeptical that they would have the tradition of Law’s interpretation;

  55. Here is another perfect example of satans’ use of G-D’s symbols…and its the Israel Supreme Court of all places…
    http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1229

    • Satan is not using anything here. Israelis use this architecture to honor God, not Satan.

      I told the people of the site the same thing.

      There are good and positive applications of the symbols of God’s creation, and there are bad and evil ones. Just because satan has used certain things, like geometry, etc, does not mean that every time you see this, it is demonic. The Israeli government has honored God, not Satan, by its architecture. God created geometry, not Satan. Pomegranates were used even in the time of Moses in the tabernacle. Do not demonize everything you see.

      Satan is not using anything here. Israelis use this architecture to honor God, not Satan.

      Get a life.

    • Satan is not using anything here. Israelis use this architecture to honor God, not Satan.

      I told the people of the site the same thing.

      There are good and positive applications of the symbols of God’s creation, and there are bad and evil ones. Just because satan has used certain things, like geometry, etc, does not mean that every time you see this, it is demonic. The Israeli government has honored God, not Satan, by its architecture. God created geometry, not Satan. Pomegranates were used even in the time of Moses in the tabernacle. Do not demonize everything you see.

      Satan is not using anything here. Israelis use this architecture to honor God, not Satan.

      Get a life.

  56. Gavriel;

    I’m going to try to clarify what I was “trying” to say.

    I don’t believe I used the word “trust”. I said I will look at what someone believes. I believe there is only one Truth and one way. I also believe everyone is included in the plan. Satan counterfeits everything God does. So Truth is mixed with lies. I might get something out of a lecture even if I don’t believe the same way someone else does. Pastor Hoggard in the video above is quoting pure scripture. He’s not quoting some commentary or some theologian or scholar. I look at what other people believe with the hope that they will look at what I have to say or what I believe. Just as I look at what the Jews have to say I will also look at what the New Ager say.

    I Corinthians 9:20
    Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law though I myself am not under the law. so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law though I not free from God’s law but am under Christ law, so as to win those not having the law. To the weak I became weak, to win the weak, I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in it’s blessings.

    I don’t know if this makes it any clearer what I was “trying” to say.

  57. Lyndsey;
    Remember the saying:

    Two Jews three opinions. That information from vigilant citizen originates from a Messianic Jew out of Israel “Jerry Golden” He lives in Israel and he’s been a believer a long time.

    Zimnatove is another believer who lives in Israel who backs up the information

    http://www.wordfromyerushalaim.com/FreeMason%20Altar%20Isaiah%2019%2023%2024.htm

    http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=817&z=2

    This report will shock and upset some; it is one I have put off for over 4 years. After struggling with it I have decided now is the time to write it. Knowing it could be misunderstood as anti-Semitic. God forbid that I a Jew should ever say or do anything that would be remotely considered as such, but I must admit this report does not come easy for me. The fact still remains that an evil force has been put into place in Jerusalem and has spread throughout Israel, in preparations for the end time and the seat of the anti-Christ. For if we are to believe that the anti-Christ is to have his seat on the Temple Mount, then we must come to grips with some truths not being preached today. One such truth is the foundation for such a move of the Devil must be underway even as we speak if this is to happen. Or we simply are not in the end days. This report will prove that such a move is underway and has been for quiet some time. It will be accepted by some and rejected by others, but that is the way it goes.
    In this report I will use many pictures showing the establishment of the Illuminati and establish proof that there has been a diabolical plot by those we refer to as the New World Order. Showing the architectural design of the New Israeli Supreme Court Building designed and paid for by the Rothchilds reflex the presence of Free Masonry and the Illuminati. I took all but one of the pictures you are about to see so I can assure that what you are seeing is real and in place.
    The same families who own and control the Federal Reserve and other major financial institutions have their eyes set on the Temple Mount, and the Holy City of Jerusalem. Just as Scriptures say, the man who will be revealed as the anti-Christ will sit in that place, before the appearance of the Jewish Messiah Yeshua HaMashiach, and many will receive him as their messiah. Just actually how that will come about remains to be seen, but one thing I am convinced of is that Holy men of God will not be the ones to rebuild the Temple, it will be the Illuminati. For God would not send men to that place to perform blood sacrifices. His Son’s blood was the perfect sacrifice; there is no need to shed the blood of dumb animals any longer. Yeshua did a perfect work, and it was finished. But He will return and take control of the New Temple that I feel will be built soon. But before He will return this world will have to get in such bad shape that the anti-Christ can be accepted by most as the savior who can bring peace and order to the world. But then you know the rest of that story so lets go on.
    For those who may think this article is anti-Semitic I ask you to read an article on (Synagogue of Satan) http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=329 for there are those who call themselves Jews but who are of the house of Satan. And many have found their way into the Israeli Knesset.
    Once again Yeshua will enter into that place, the Holy Mountain of God and cleanse it, but before that happens all hell will break loose in Jerusalem and the world. So with all that said I will now show you some things that have never been published before, for the few who are aware have been afraid to speak of it. So I ask you to pray over this servant of God for protection as we go forth with these truths. These truths must be revealed in order for the Body to know how close we are to the Second Coming of Yeshua HaMasiach (Jesus the Messiah).
    As this entire report will be built around the construction of this building order by the Rothchilds I should show you a picture of the building. A friend of mine took this picture as he and his wife flew over the area a couple years ago. The Supreme Court building sits on a plot of land opposite the Knesset and next to the Foreign Ministry and the Central bank of Israel. It is important to keep in mind that it sits in line with the Knesset, for we will be talking about Ley-Lines that cross under this pyramid running to the Knesset, with other ley-lines that cross in perfect order to the center of Jerusalem and on to the Rockefellow Museum. Everything about this building has been thought out to the very finest detail, and it is diabolical. The Devils plan has been put into place before we ever had an idea of his plan. He knows his final battle will be here in Jerusalem.
    The Engineers who were chosen for this job by the Rothschild’s were the grandson and granddaughter of Ben-Zion Guine from Turkey who worked for Baron Rothschild, Ram Kurmi, born in Jerusalem in 1931, and Ada Karmi-Melanede born in Tel-Aviv in 1936. For those who can make something out of the numbers. It was important to the builder to have everything done according to the correct numbers. There were 1,000 sheets of plans, 1,200 cement posts; they worked on the building for 3 years or 750 days. 20 workers each day, for 200,000 workdays, 250,000 building stones, each hand placed.

    The Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem.
    The first thing you will notice is the pyramid with the all Seeing Eye just like the one you will see on the American dollar bill, it sits in a circle to the left. We will elaborate on this a little later in this article. The larger circle you see at the bottom of the picture is an inverted-cross designed to walk on. It is the only religious emblem designed to be trampled on under foot. At the top of the picture is a Moslem Gravesite, and just out of view to the right is an Egyptian Obelisk.

    To the left just out of sight is a god of the Far East.

    And all through the building you will detect Hindu Altars. All of this will make more sense as we go along, keep in mind we are talking about the establishment of a form of Government that will usher in the anti-Christ.
    There is little proof on the building itself of the presence of the Rothschild’s but on an outside wall we find these two items.

    Pointing to the garden that displays the Egyptian obelisk.

    Giving recognition to the Rothschilds, you will notice the Rothschilds emblem at the top. It is the symbol for the founder of the Rothschild Dynasty and his five sons, who established central banks throughout Europe. The Rothschilds made several stipulations with the Israeli Government before the building began, among them were. The Rothschilds would pick the plot of land to build the Supreme Court; they would use their own architects, and no one would ever know how much the building cost. It took them four years to build this structure with many secrets built into it.

    After passing through security the first thing you will notice
    on the left wall is a large picture.

    From the left you will see Teddy Kollek, then Lord Rothschild, on the right standing you will see Shimon Peres, and setting at the bottom left Yhzhak Rabin. And others who brought us the Olso death process that we are now faced with.
    But this is where our journey begins as we begin to enter into the building, for this entire journey is intended to bring one from darkness into the light, and become an Illuminated one.
    You first enter into an area with very dim lighting, but as you look up the stairs you see the bright light that comes from a very large window that over looks parts of Jerusalem.

    Here it is very important to count the steps; there are three sets of 10 steps, making a total of 30. As you ascend these 30 steps you come from the darkness into the light. And from here you can see the world or in this case the city of Jerusalem like you haven’t seen it before. It is also worth mentioning that on the left side you will see the old Jerusalem Stone, some even believe these same stones were used in the second Temple, but I have no way to prove that. On the other side you will see the smooth modern wall. There are 6 lamp stands going up that speaks to man in his journey to gain knowledge and become illuminated. But once again I feel it necessary to tell you that it’s very important to the ones who built this building that everything be perfect and in their order of things, even numerically.

    As we turn to the left and begin to walk towards the Pyramid we notice a metal strip in the marble floor. The Ley-Lines cross directly under the pyramid they run from this place to different places in the city. It is where the Judges and others can stand to receive knowledge and power. Standing directly over a piece of crystal with the all Seeing Eye of Lucifer the light bearer above them.
    For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines, it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil. If you will notice in every large city all palm readers and such are usually on the same street that is a ley-line.
    Here is a map of Jerusalem, you can see that the Supreme Court Building and the Knesset are connected with one straight line, and at a 90% angle to that line half way is a Ley-line that runs perpendicular. That line runs straight down the middle of a street known as Ben Yehuda, a place where all the crazies meet, and at any given day you can find at least one who calls himself Elijah or Moses. Israelis call Ben Yehuda the freak show. That line runs on to the Rockefeller Museum; and from the Rockefeller Museum a line runs through the Moslem Quarters to the Temple Mount.
    I will make this map a little larger to help you out some.

    Just before entering under the pyramid there is a window you can look up at the pyramid, you will notice the ley-line that runs to the center of the pyramid.

    For a moment lets go back to the top of the 30 steps, as we know there are 33 degrees in Free Masonry but the last three are the ones of higher learning and preparations to enter the Illuminati. So as we move from the top of the stairs towards the Pyramid we see a great library with three tiers to those three levels of higher learner. They three final steps in Free Masonry and after that if ones choose to go higher and have been accepted they enter the highest levels of the Illuminati. It is also important in this building to note that the 33rd level ends at the base of the Pyramid.

    This is a very large and expensive Library, but there is something else about this one that should be mentioned. The first tier is “only” for Lawyers; the second tier is “only” for setting Judges. The highest and third tier is “only” for retired judges. Which also speaks of the order of things in the Illuminati, as one must be accepted and move to the higher level before the knowledge at that level is available to them. And directly above that third tier is the Pyramid with the all seeing eye of Lucifer. That begins the journey into the Illuminati.
    Directly under the Pyramid you see 6 squares. Six being the number of man, and each square has 4 sides speaking to the world. In the center directly under the point of the pyramid a crystal so that when one stand over it he of she is in direct line from the point of the pyramid and the crystal below.

    There are five Courtrooms, each has an entrance in the shape of a Jewish Tomb, with the opening above the door for the spirit to have freedom to enter or leave. The wall with the courtroom entrances has a curve to it, while the outer wall is straight. There are two things said about his, some say it speaks to the straight line of Justice, and the curve line of Mercy, yet others say it speaks of order out of chaos. The motto of the Illuminati. There are three Judges who set in each courtroom, and above the seats of the Judges there are smaller pyramids that shed light onto the Judges as they sit over those who are brought up from the prisons cells below. The Judges chambers are above the courtrooms and they come down to bring light to those who are brought up from below.

    I have done a small cut away from the whole plan of the building in order to show you the design of a Jewish Miskan brought into the plan, as all the other major religions of the world are represented in one form or another. As you walk from the pyramid you can go either to the courtrooms or towards the Judges chambers. But this is what that part of the building looks like, making the pyramid the holy of holies in this evil Miskan “Temple”.

    The bottom part of the above picture is the courtyard, and here we find finished stones brought in from the desert near Mitzpe Ramon where we find the worlds largest natural crater. A narrow channel of water that runs continually divides the stones. The architects claim to have been inspired from the Scriptures in Psalms 85:11 Truth shall spring up from the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. For the Judges sit above this courtyard looking down.

    When you leave the center Courtroom or main courtroom directly across the opening you find the stairs going downstairs, at the base of the stairs you will find the fertility symbol always present in any illuminati structure, often hidden but always there. Much can be said about this symbol and the symbol of the masons with the compass and square with the “G” in the middle, but I will leave that for another time or for someone else.

    In Conclusion

    We have just lightly touched on the significance of this building for there are literally hundreds of details that point to the Illuminati and their plans for mankind. But more important to this report it establishes a base for the seat of the one that will be accepted by most as the messiah, before Yeshua returns to set up his reign and rule over the earth. I have no doubt that many will come against this report, and that the messenger rather than the message will be attacked. But I have tried to lay it out with proof and facts much more could be said and I am sure this will provoke others to say them, and possibly that is the intent of this article.
    But as we all know God has a plan and it will not be stopped or detoured. Part of His plan is for His people the Jews to return home to Israel. For some Scriptures on that you could read the following verses. Isa. 60:9, Isa. 43:5-6, Jer. 16:14-15, Jer. 16:16, Isa. 49:22, Exe. 36:8 Eze. 36:24, Eze. 37:12, Eze. 39:28 just to mention a few.
    So as always I will close with by asking you to pray about helping us purchase the needed vessel for that purpose.
    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel and all the IDF soldiers, for al those who have come to fight the Islamic enemy. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden

    • This video is an ‘essential’ because it cuts though a huge amount of symbolic heresay, and just spells out major portions of what human forces are doing to lead into the Great Tribulation mentioned in the Bible.

      Key parts mentioned with regard to the future include: (1) the plan to eliminate 50% of earth’s population, and (2) the strange Israel delimma ‘riddle’ of desiring to set up the state of Arizona as a place to move the whole country of Israel.

  58. Lyndsey;
    Aaron Russo and Jerry Golden are the only two Jews I know who have been courageous enough to name names. Two other Jewish groups: The Ultra Orthodox Anti-Zionist and Benjamin Freedman are talking about the same groups, but not brave enough to name names. It will be interesting to see if this information remains on this blog or is removed. Do you want to know the truth or not? Ultimately, you are not helping the Jewish people and Israel by trying to cover it up.

    • thank you for this video with Aaron Russo! as I am just viewing this…I remember the days prior to Obama’s election, I chose not to vote because I “felt in my gut” that it was a “show”. I knew that I knew that Obama had already won-that whoever was “behind” it had already chosen him as the winner-the president. Kitti,… in hindsight, I know now that it was the HS telling me this! And, the night he won-surprise surprise-the HS said loud and clear-“it has begun”……and of course everyone who doesn’t understand the things of the spirit because they can’t see him…then we are labled “crazy”; conspiracy theorist…insane! I have prayed and asked the HS to help me see the truth….slowly, I am getting pieces here and pieces here and fitting them all together…its been frustrating but I understand why now…because when getting a “glimpse” of the big picture it is frightening to say the least. Thank you so much Kitti! I know G-D will keep us safe-I can only pray it will end soon.

    • ya know kitti, I am sitting here crying because of all those people in those towers who DIED because of the EVIL that is inside and behind OUR GOVERNMENT. The LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL. Please G-D help us!

      • And I ‘m afraid to even post it!…now THAT is what our country has turned into…freedom of speech is no more-it is gone!

  59. Lyndsey:

    Who is Aaron Russo? Hollywood celebrity.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Russo

  60. I have read all the comments concerning symbols and those expecting answers to when the tribulation begins. A word of wisdom I received from my minister. Need not be concerned about the end of time for no man shall know this, it has been written. Be ready. The rapture can come today, tommorrow, only God knows. T realize it is interesting to disect time and share time tables I have done it myself. But for those who are insistent upon answers leaves me to believe that they are frightened and are insecure about there personal relationship with the Lord. Be sure, be ready, search for truth and salvation not for time.
    As for symbols, if you are truly a born again believer, filled with the leading of the Holy Spirit, then there are signs and symbols everywhere. For example, in the last month everytime I went shopping the person in front me there was 666 in their total purchase. Coincidence, I think not. I could write a book on all the symbols that are put into ones life when they follow Jesus. These symbols are for direction and preparation because Satan is attacking now and ready to devour all those who succumb to his temptations. Esther

    • hi Esther

      Thanks for your input. I agree that the more aware we are, and the more we look, the more we see, and the more we recognize the signs around us.

  61. Dan Brown is a terrific writer and excellent researcher. Here are a few facts and Kabbalistic meanings to some of the facts he dug up for his bestseller The Lost Symbol. We’ve previously drawn numerous connections between the timing of the founding of America, the State of Israel and the Divine Calendar as highlighted by the tzaddikim. So it’s quite interesting that the US Capital Building (the home of Congress) has 541 rooms, since 541 is the well-established standard numerical value for the name Israel.

    Nevertheless, the monument at the core of Washington D.C. and Dan’s book is the Washington Monument, which Dan correctly points out is 555 feet tall and has a capstone of 3300 lbs. Now anyone who knows anything about Hebrew knows that the monument resembles a giant letter (V) of numerical value 6. And the reason this is significant is that 555 x 6 = 3330 and that there are exactly 3330 years from the giving of the Torah at Mt Sinai and the second opportunity for the Tree-of-life reality in 2448 HC and the year 5778 HC (2018 CE), the year given by Rav Ahlag and the tzaddikim for the geula (final redemption) and the third reception window for the Tree-of-Life reality.

    Moreover, since the letter vav is spelled out VV, it has a numerical value of 12 as in the 12 inches to a foot, which makes the Washington Monument 6660 inches tall, and this is significant only because there are exactly 66.6 jubilees years (50-year Biblical cycle) from 2448 HC to 5778 HC (2018 CE).

    Furthermore, in 2018 CE we will be in the 115th US Congress, and we’ll also be in the 115th Jubilee year, counting as the sages do from Adam to 5778 HC.

    Now, had Washington D.C. and its buildings and monuments not have been designed by the Masons this might all be a great coincidence, but it would be very surprising that architects familiar with ancient gematria and the writings of the tzaddikim would not have incorporated this knowledge in their monumental works. Especially so, considering that the tiny aluminum capstone that rests at the apex of the Washington Monument weighs exactly 100 oz with 100 being the numerical value for Keter, the crowning sefira (dimension) at the apex of the Tree-of-Life. This in itself would mean nothing if the architect didn’t also know that 100 oz was 6.25 lbs and that 625 is the numerical value of “H’Keter (the Crown)” high atop the 555 ft tall monument. Or that 100 is the numerical value of the letter Caf (CP), the first and representative letter of Keter (CTR), and that CP can also be pronounced Cap, as in Capstone.

    Furthermore, gematria and Kabbalah scholars know that the letter Caf (C) has a numerical value of 20 and the Hebrew word for 20 (Esrim) has a numerical value of 620, the same as that of Keter.

    No one can say for sure that the Washington Monument was designed as a giant letter Vav or as the central column of the Tree-of-Life, but it does make a heck of a sundial and it is indisputable that the surface temperature of the sun is 5778 K, and that the final measure of the complete Washington Monument stretches figuratively from 625 to 555, for a span of 70, which is oddly analogous to the 70 years that span the statehood of Israel in the year 5708 (1948 CE) to 5778 (2018 CE).

    Who knows who knew what, but there are only 8 years left until 2018.

    http://kabbalahsecrets.com/?p=1401

    • hi Gavriel

      Well, that is a more refreshing viewpoint than the usual “evil” interpretation, that goes for every design feature of the US government.

      • Well, hopefully.

        American is not evil at all, just that its Masonic leaders can guide the world only to 33rd level of spiritual progress out of 50 cosmic levels of counting the omer from Passover to Pentecost, only Mashiach can guide the world to 50th level. 33rd level in advance is also the point where one has to decide to sell out to the devil or accept baptism of Holy Spirit and carry on…world is currently stuck in this level…

  62. The complete DVD on Riddles in Stone can be seen on You Tube

    “Riddles In Stone: Secret Architecture of Washington, D.C.”, will continue to explore the fascinating history behind the origins and focus of the world’s most powerful nation: America.
    Why was this nation founded? How was the precise location of Washington, D.C., determined? What is the meaning of the seemingly countless occult images in our nation’s capitol?

    Volume II zeroes in on the Masonic & Rosicrucian influence so prevalent amongst our Founding Fathers as they planned, and began to implement, the layout of America’s Capitol. For years, extreme controversy has abounded as to the exact meaning of the occult symbols found within the street layout, the buildings, and the monuments of Washington, D.C.

    Is there really an inverted Pentagram formed by the street layout just north of the White House? We have discovered the esoteric reason why this Pentagram is missing one segment.

    Was this city laid out to reflect the vision of a Masonic Christ foreseen by Sir Francis Bacon? Is it true that America’s capitol was laid out “according to the stars”, i.e., in the astrological shapes of certain planets and stars so revered by occultists?

    Why did our Masonic Founding Fathers perform “Corn, Wine, and Oil” ceremonies at cornerstone layings and at the dedication of the finished structure?

    Does this occult “wisdom” represent the interests of America, or a hidden agenda?

    As with Volume I, this “Secret Mysteries” series will continue to explore current — and possibly future — events by examining America’s past. What can these realities mean for the unfolding destiny of America and the world? Now you will know that, when President Bush said he was fulfilling the “Ancient Hope” of the “New Order of the Ages” (as we show in Volume I), he was merely acting out the plan reflected in the street layout and in the architecture of Washington, D.C. 3 hour video

  63. This is stage performance that was set by Israel elite Satanists (I knew one of the choreographer personally), imitating Ba’al worship of Israelites at Sinai and worship of Queen of Heaven (Astaroth) and performed in 1999 Eurovision song contest by hermaphrodite Dana International, who’s original surname is Cohen – descendant of Aharon the Priest, who used a tablet with writing on it “RISE BULL, RISE”, the same tablet that was used to take Joseph’s coffin out of the Nile River, the tablet with gold was thrown into the fire and golden calf was formed; Perfomace ends with Stevie Wonder’s “Free” (free from whom? God of Israel?)

    • Not the Dancers behind, all of the dressed as Priest of Ba’al, they don’t do much of the dancing, but overlook the seen, as the front dancers (common people) worship at the foot of Ashtaroth (Ishtar), also not dancers making triangle sign on one eye continually;

      • I am amazed that they would do this in front of the Western Wall. They definitely look like a bunch of pagans. This sort of ugliness should not be permitted near a sacred area.

        • This in King David’s Tower (archeologists agree that this indeed is King’s David’s tower, later expanded by Turks); But, it is still Holy and within walls of Old City; Notice the hats wore by dancers standing in the back – these are the same hats that Priests of Baal wore;

          Year 1999 was time of peace and happiness in Israel, so “Jeshurun grew fat” once again, people got into paganism and most important agenda of the day was making legal same-sex marriages…of course, Jealous Lord of Israel got jealous followed by terrorism and second intifada…

          I’m not happy about modern “Kabbalah” cult either propagating creation of united human vessel or one united soul, that everyone should get together and unite in spirit creating one global soul, in order to get people prepared to receive “supernal universal light”…this has nothing to do with authentic Kabbalah of course…I think modern guru Michael Laitman sold out to the devil and tries to do what Hitler has done but on spiritual level – Hitler concentrated all Jews together in order to get rid of them easily, while devil wants to unite all Jewish souls in one vessel so that it will be easier for him to make them worship him…

          • “Free” (the song in the video)

            Free like the river
            Flowin’ freely through infinity
            Free to be sure of
            What I am and who I need not be
            Free from all worries
            Worries prey on oneself’s troubled mind
            Freer than the clock’s hands
            Tickin’ way the times
            Freer than the meaning of free that man defines
            Life running through me
            Till I feel my father God has called

            Me having nothin’
            But possessing riches more than all
            And I’m free
            To be nowhere
            But in every place I need to be
            Freer than a sunbeam
            Shinning through my soul
            Free from feelin’ heat or knowing bitter cold
            Free from conceiving the beginning
            For that’s the infinite start

            I’m gone – gone but still living
            Life goes on without a beating heart

            Free like a vision
            That the mind of only you can see

            Freer than a raindrop
            Falling from the sky
            Freer than a smile in a baby’s sleepin’ eyes

            I’m free like a river
            Flowin’ freely to infinity
            I’m free to be sure of what
            I am and who I need not be
            I’m much freer – like the meaning of the word free that
            crazy man defines

            Free – free like the vision that
            The mind of only you are ever gonna see
            Free like the river my life
            Goes on and on through infinity

            • Stevie Wonder’s song is beautiful and has beautiful intent and meaning, but Dana International explained her choice of this song as preaching freedom for gay and lesbian community and freedom from “Jewish religious oppression”

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  65. I love jesus as my lord and savior. I pray for these who dont’em. I feel bad for them because they dont kno how it feels to be a christian, they dont kno how exciting amazing is to be next to the lord, and they dont kno what they ore missing.

    • dear merneza

      Thank you for your beautiful thoughts, and prayer for the lost.

    • yes totally agree! But u also find people who knows Christ but not willing, at least to give a honest try as a commitment. People are not 100% perfect always we fall short, always we are tempted but a true effort to be obedient as much as possible should be the reason. Every-time a Christian falls short & get trapped means, it doesn’t send even an indirect message to people who do not know the Christ JESUS. Also it has been a huge issue that in protestant mainline church traditions is clearly a barricade to worship our Lord in spirit and truth. As a person in an Asian country and in my country i feel it a lot. Youth, young adults breakaway from such churches and gradually it’ll be a boring and bitter experience of our Lord JESUS body which is the church(all churches) So this also a big problem in my country where people cannot reach certain areas to give the gospel to unbelievers and bring them from darkness to light.

      • hello Sugeeth

        We should not set a bad example for young people, and make them leave the church.

        When they come, they should see wonderful worship and praise, and everyone loving and obeying God.

        Then we need to trust Jesus for to draw them in – to his gospel.

        He will do what we are unable to do.

      • These are all parts of the blessings and authority that God has given those who believe. You can find what you need here.

        Genesis 1
        26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

        27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

        28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

        29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

        30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

        Mark 4:
        35 And the same day, when the even was come, he saith unto them, Let us pass over unto the other side.

        36 And when they had sent away the multitude, they took him even as he was in the ship. And there were also with him other little ships.

        37 And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full.

        38 And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish?

        39 And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.

        40 And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?

        Finally,
        John 14:
        12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

        13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

        14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

  66. who knows about favorite satan`s bird????

  67. OMG what a dumb site.they are to blame for this,they are to blame for that.What a load of cobswollip!!!!!!!!Christianity came around after paganism so why shouldnt they use those symbols.they where there first.I mean,get a life,do you really think we should be concerntrating on “it’s not fair i want to use that symbol”Some people dont become christians because of the fact that you christians say if we are not christian then we are devil worshipers.Ive never been a christian,ive never worshiped satan and find sites like this very pathetic when we should be concerntrating more on loveing our neighbours and not just next door either im also talking internationally.not hurting them and saying they are devil worshipers.Back in the time that pagans where using those symbols christianity was only a sparkle in a few peoples eyes and on another point christianity was shaped shaped by a ex saracen.Father christmas was orginally a bad thing,so thanx to time and the gullibility of the human race with a few turn christian or go to hell(which has been proven doesnt exist by 21 st century scientists)which used to be holes in the ground with spikes that had peoples heads on them all dug by christians.that was then set on fire to be a representation of hell because of the flames.People educate yourselves and remember that its 2012.The bible was a story was an elaborate story written to scare people to become christian i belleive.
    PAGANS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!Cristians and their devils and gods can keep them.see you have fun with ya elaborate story pagan haters!!!!!!

    • dear bob

      If you do not belong to the God of heaven, then you do belong to Satan, even if you do not believe in him or care about him.

      For satan, it is good enough to just reject the God of heaven, and you are his.

      Pagans do not own the symbols. Everything in creation belongs to god. How they are used is what is relevant- either for good or evil.

      Christianity started in the Garden of Eden at the first promise of a Messiah. It just did not have a name back then.

      The father christmas thing may be true, but santa claus is supposed to be another name for St. Nicholas who would give presents to children in his village. And he was a real person.

      I wish you the best and may you find the truth in your life.

  68. i hope you know that satanic people used all of theas simbles before jews or cristions even excisted.

    • hi martha

      the point here is that God had the symbols before the satanic people got a hold of them and perverted them.

      so the symbols still belong to God.

  69. (1) Like the Alphabet Picture at the top, all languages are composed of small symbolic icons or glyphs called letters. Every symbol has one or more meanings. Its not such a big deal to get stressed out about. Just read the symbols, extract the meaning, and go on. Don’t get hung up on any one letter or word so much so that you lose the meaning of the sentence, paragraph, or essay you are reading.

    (2) To Marianne:
    “I am now waiting for someone to tell me that I should not wear shoes”
    Hey Marianne! Take off your shoes, for you are on holy ground. : )

    (3) Felt like everyone might enjoy this golden oldy song!

    =========================================================
    Signs, Signs lyrics

    And the sign said long haired freaky people need not apply
    So I tucked my hair up under my hat and I went in to ask him why
    He said you look like a fine upstanding young man, I think you’ll do
    So I took off my hat I said imagine that, huh, me working for you

    woah!

    Sign Sign everywhere a sign
    Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind !
    Do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign?

    And the sign said anybody caught trespassing would be shot on sight !
    So I jumped on the fence and yelled at the house, Hey! what gives you the right?
    To put up a fence to keep me out or to keep mother nature in
    If God was here, he’d tell you to your face, man you’re some kinda sinner

    Sign Sign everywhere a sign
    Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind !
    Do this, don’t do that, can’t you read the sign?

    Now, hey you Mister! can’t you read, you got to have a shirt and tie to get a seat
    You can’t even watch, no you can’t eat, you ain’t suppose to be here
    Sign said you got to have a membership card to get inside

    Uh!

    And the sign said everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray
    But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all,
    I didn’t have a penny to pay, so I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign
    I said thank you Lord for thinking about me, I’m alive and doing fine!

    Sign Sign everywhere a sign
    Blocking out the scenery breaking my mind !
    Do this, don’t do that, cant you read the sign?

  70. The word of God isn’t free anymore. It is locked up in a Jewish concentration camp, along with all the good and true Christians who have the “cojones” to try to stop Satan’s Jews!

    • dan

      Satan does not have a denomination.

      He uses christians, atheists, jews, muslims, hindus, buddhists, asians, westerners, Indians, greeks, romans, and eskimos, etc if necessary.

  71. Amen!
    Let’s take back what the Enemy stole!

  72. Actually there is no proof that the hexagram is the shield of David and it is a stretch to try and justify it. The hexagram is the Seal of Solomon after he backslid. The hexagram was forced upon Israel by Rothschild in 1945 as their flag, and prior to the 17th century it was nothing to do with Judaism at all – it was the Rothschilds who introduced it. Should we accept an occult symbol that has been introduced by a Luciferian? Thin end of the wedge – we should be careful that we are not giving out the wrong message to unbelievers and avoid even the ‘appearance of evil’.

    • dear treena

      The reality is that the star represents the hope and prayers of Israel.

      The flag it is on is actually a prayer shawl, so this shows positive intent.

      WE can assign negative meanings to a symbol, or just accept it for what the users of that symbol use it for.

      an apple can be a symbol of sin in the garden, and disobedience.

      or an apple can be a symbol of good health.

      it is all in the intent and interpretation.

  73. AMOS 5:26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Malek Ciyyûn your images, the star of your ´Elöhîm which ye to yourselves.

    Acts 7:43 >>

    You have lifted up the shrine of Molech and the star of your god Rephan, the idols you made to worship. Therefore I will send you into exile’ beyond Babylon.

  74. […] Satan’s use of God’s symbols of creation. […]

  75. How does that apply to Gods medicine in the leaves??

  76. Wedding rings a sign of love? Maybe in peoples’ minds but not historically correct, the origin is pagan.

    1. The ring of saturn placed upon a physical connection to the heart
    2. there is a vein connecting the ring finger with the heart directly
    3. heart is all to do with pagan chakras, love for all because we are all one consciousness (in some pagan and new age religions), heart is shown often in satanic faux-judeochristian imagery such as catholic images of mary or jesus, etc.

  77. Is that really how god wanted this world to be I thought the word of god is love but all I see is hate.

    • dylan

      you only see hate because the truth is not what you believe. we do not hate anyone….god is love, and truth…and to have this, you first have to have god in your life….

      and to have god in your life, you have to accept what he says as true, obey him, and give your life to him…..if you disobey him, then you don’t belong to him, and cannot have what he has for you.

      do not be deceived by this world, it is full of lies. we care about you here, and are willing to answer questions, and help you.

  78. […] Satan’s use of God’s symbols of creation […]

  79. Jesus Christ is our Salvation. He teaches us how to do what he did. As the Lord is Love, he does not bring confusion and doubt. Doubt and fear are the opposite of faith. If you choose to know, God will show us, and through prayer and the examples showed by Christ, we learn. Things given from God to man are just that, given from God to Man. Designed for the ones who seek it.

  80. I don’t know how to really say this so I will just say it. My house is HAUNTED. Whatever is here WRITES all over my ceilings, walls, I have video of paranormal activity, so many pictures, my walls have spots of blood on them, and ever since I moved here my life has been destroyed. Lost everything, any form or real money that may come to me is immediately stopped. Its as if any door I open is immediately slammed in my face 5 seconds later. The only reason I am probably not dead is I WORK for Heaven. In laments terms I am a man of God. Not the phonies you hear say they are men of God, the REAL deal. While taking a selfie of myself the camera caught in the mirrors reflections THREE apparitions. One (and I know how this is going to sound) that is black wearing red rimmed sun glasses, with a haircut like Elvis, I know… pic.twitter.com/YLJnuSnS0w. I just would like SOMEONE somewhere to EXPLAIN this to me. A child (who has psychic abilities told me this. ” I have three entities following me around 24 ” One is a demon, the other two are ghosts, the ghosts follow me around for protection ” All I can say is ever since I moved into this house April 1st 2010 my life has been SHIT! I have never hurt myself more, spilled more blood, I mean it is LITERALLY I have to walk around LOOKING down at the street to make sure I don’t fall. The SECOND I take my eyes off myself I get HURT! Another thing is, it is RAINING dimes all around me, I find St. medallions, coins with crosses on them, it is INSANE. God appears to have abandoned me 😦 I have done nothing wrong, I am a good person.

    I can provide far more evidence if anyone wishes to see.

    If someone sees this and can shed some light? PLEASE email me t.r.kiellman@gmail.com

    I thank you for your time…

    PS: I am also SURROUNDED by numbers 3:26 6:23 9:23 3:29 123, 456, 789. 321, 654, 345, 543 its like every time I look at the clock or a license plate, receipt, anything I see these numbers. I looked it up and they are ANGEL numbers (I am SEEKING a miracle from God) all the signs are there but NOTHING happens. The funny thing is, every time I feel like this is ending, it comes on ever stronger! If I pray? I am attacked HARDER! I mean I have suffered every single sickness and disease, lack, I mean the list I could write. A test from Heaven? I actually look at myself as the 21st century JOB. My gf? I am CONVINCED is POSSESSED. It is scary to watch her. She is just gone. In fact everyone in this house (see it just happened again) I looked at the clock (as an IMPULSE to look) and it said 6:54. All I know is this house HATES me, I am the only one that gets hurt.

    pic.twitter.com/XNxHXIyxNi

    • I posted this picture and some how it disappeared…. pic.twitter.com/YLJnuSnS0w look at the images in the back round

    • terrance

      why do you stay there?

      and why do you stay with a girlfriend who is possessed?

      before I click on any link, tell me about what it is about.

      it sounds like you need to leave there and say prayers for deliverance.

    • have u tried a cleansing. u will need rock or seasalt and sage. first light the

      sage go round every room and every corner in the house, after u have done that, place salt along the window sills. and each entrance to ure home. this should create protection.

  81. there r always two sides to everything, who was to say that jeus was white, has any body acculty seen the the bible. no it was supposed to be written 100s of years after the death of so called christ.im a white witch. going back through my gernerations. we dont need a church. to follow our belifs. also if there was a god. why is all the suffering. men killing men ect over reglion. why does one whorship god and one alla, sorry bout my spelling auto spell not working. the work i do is for good only. yes i use the moon. and sun. i use natural items. and herbs. who id to say that god created them. u or me. ppl should be able to follow there own path and do what they feel is right for them. did anyone see god make the moon,sun and stars. no. get over it ppl. it was ppl like u would have had me drowned.

  82. Sadly this is not correct. God forbade us in His words to bring trees into our homes and decorate it. Jeremiah 10:1-4. Before calling christmas something you must to research everything about it- The tree, baubles, star, santa, wreaths etc.

    Yeshua was not born in December on the same day used to celebrate the sun god’s resurrection. He was born in September just research on winter in Bethlehem will show you why. He was an Orthodox Jew that held God’s word as holy. He never said celebrate pagan festivals like christmas and easter.

    He upheld Old Testament festivals as did the gentiles that believed in Him as Messiah. They did not celebrate this but gave it all up for Him, Constantine and the Roman Catholic Church brought it all back to get pagans to “convert”.

    God will not honor you for this but will hold you in disobedience to His word.

  83. Do your research and stop being so judgmental and close minded; in pagan spirituality we don’t even believe in Satan. If you followed your own religion at all you would understand that you should have peace and respect for all and leave the judgment to your Lord. Get off the high horse and stop reading only what you WANT to read in the bible.

  84. I am a mutt from two Jewish tribes that intermarried into another Jewish tribe, but G-D loves us all regardless.We have to love and trust him in turn.It was the gentiles that believed in Jesus first had nothing to do with the Catholics.Where were the Catholics when Jesus was walking the earth. But fighting over the same G-D is ludicrous.He is one G-D and he knows the hearts of every known religion and he knows the brood of vipers and hypocrites never fear he has all our names in one book or the other.Have a blessed day.

  85. This world is so wicked and cruel and I just pray people learn what true Christians are likely

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