The final 72 hours

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Deep in a hole in the ground, laid a man beaten and dead. He was tortured, unfairly condemned to death, and crucified by his enemies. It was over, at least in man’s eyes.

Then, suddenly, there was a resurrection in power 72 hours later. What can we, today, learn from this?

Spiritual warfare

There is an aspect to spiritual warfare that people need to understand. It is not over until God intervenes. If we give up before he arrives, then the failure is ours.

In early times, people had physical enemies to deal with, face to face. The fought battles in the open, and then everything was over. It was easy to see who won. The people who were evil knew they were evil, but they just did not care.

It does not work that way now. Most conflicts are more subtle, more deceptive, more cruel, more treacherous, more blinding, because now they attack the mind, instead of the body. Words of deceit, and psychological manipulations are employed to deceive simple minded, or negative minds. They go after the soul of the person.

Either in a physical conflict, or a spiritual one, the damage can be lethal.

Since the consequences of a loss can be deadly, you do NOT give up.

There is a spiritual battle for this country now. The deceit is that someone will magically fix the entire country with the right shady associations, a lot of empty talk, the betrayal of Israel, and a sweep of the pen. This is bogus.

Righteousness needs to prevail, because there are many unsaved loved ones, and others who would embrace salvation, if they only knew what God –Yahweh- Father in heaven – had to offer. These salvations need to occur before the Lord returns.

Why we are losing

We need 4 more years in this country, to repent, to minister to the unsaved, and to prepare for a decline. As the decline occurs, only the righteous will be protected, as selfishness and violence will eventually take over. Once the wrath of God begins, I pray I am not here any more.

We have sinned before Yahweh as a nation. We have not repented. We have whored after other gods, especially money. This includes the poor as well as the rich. The motives are different, but the sin is the same. People are whoring after man and money in this election.

People, including Christians, are whoring after the blessings of God when they are still in sin. God does not respond so they go to the government. What idolatry. Christian preachers on TV have made money whores of their supporters. Everything is money.

Typical sins of money whores.- a small sample

Listening to gossip and slander

Cheating on spouse

Fornication

Lying

Laziness – refusing to provide for oneself, expecting others to do for them. This is the sin of sloth.

Gluttony – of goods and food

Materialism

Cursing god

Not honoring one’s father or mother.

Scandalizing children with pornographic actions, words, or videos

Basically the 10 commandments are dead.

What we need to do – NOW – not tomorrow

We do not deserve mercy, because we have not repented. We need to

stop the selfishness and sins,

get on our knees and beg forgiveness,

and make a decision that only Yahweh God is king in our lives.

Fast and pray, and cry out to God.

Then, he will provide relief for what we need.

Why this is urgent

This country is in crisis. If the wrong man gets into office, it will soon bring the wrath of God on this nation.

There is only one righteous choice.

Only one ticket votes the bible, and the will of God.

The other ticket votes against everything God stands for.

The final 72 hours

It does not matter what the world says, or what the devil says. The only word that matters is the Word of God.

He has promised to heal our land if we, as the people of god, who are called by His name, humble ourselves, repent of our sins, and seek His face. If we do this, Yahweh God will hear us from heaven, show mercy, and heal our land.

And this means we will not need any congress or president to do it for Him. He already knows how to handle things. He created everything. He is the one with the power, not the politicians. He will favor the leaders who honor him with their lives. He will turn his back on those who don’t.

Please take the time in the last moments to repent, fast, pray, and seek God.

If we do this, there will be a resurrection at the end of the 72 hours.

**Note: if God follows a pattern here, then there will be a Pentecost 50 days after the resurrection.


***Note on 11-5-08 – day after election.  People who have called themselves Christians have turned their backs on God.  The harvest was great, but the laborers were too few to make a difference.  The lost sheep are still lost.  God has turned his back on this country as a whole, although He will still help the faithful.  There will be a few years left, possibly, to allow the salvation of loved ones to occur, God willing, and then hell will break lose.


70 Responses to “The final 72 hours”

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  2. I agree Marianne. There is a battle for this land and there is a call for change by both Christians and sinners alike. Many are seeking change for their own personal reasons ie, wealth, job, taxes, but God’s idea of change for this country is not in empty promises. He wants true change in the heart’s of men and women. Holy Ghost change, repentance for our nation as a whole, and returning to him.
    This has not been addressed as of yet, but countless Christian men and women are focusing on the worlds idea of change. They have been decieved.
    God bless you Marianne for ministering the truth.

  3. Hi Rev Williams,

    Thank you for your comments. Thank you also, for being a righteous covering for me, as I sincerely seek God’s truth, and present it. I pray that I never fail the Lord, and that He may always be glorified on this site.

    blessings
    marianne

  4. Marianne,
    It is critical that all believers fast, pray and intercede for the body of Christ and for all sinners who need Jesus Christ–our Lord and Savior.
    Even though God has already ordained the next president of the United States, those who are close to God Almighty should pray for forgiveness for this land. Forgiveness for past errors of our leaders in government and the church.
    Forgiveness for our neglect of duty in living Godly lives and drawing the lost to Him through Jesus Christ.

    I like the prayer Daniel prayed. He was a true righteous saint who God lead to intercede on behalf of his nation– Danile 9:
    “And I prayed earnestly to the Lord God, pleading with him, fasting, wearning sackcloth, and sitting in ashes. I prayed to the Lord my God and confessed the sins of my people. I said, “Lord God, you are great and we honor you. You are faithful to your covenant and show constant love to those who love you and do what you command.
    We have sinned, we have been evil, we have done wrong. We have rejected what you commanded us to do and have turned away from what you showed us was right. We have not listened to your servants the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our rulers, our ancestors, and our whole nation. You Lord, alwyas do what is right, but we have alwys brought disgrace on ourselves.
    Our kings, our rulers, and our ancestors, have acted shamefully and sinned agains you, Lord.
    You are merciful and forgining, although we have rebelled against you.
    We did not listen to you, O Lord our God when you told us to live according to the laws which you gave us through your servants the prophets.”
    …”O God, hear my prayer and pleading. Restore your Temple, which has been destroyed;
    Listen to us, O God; look at us and see the trouble we are in and the suffering of the city that bears your name.
    We are praying to you because you are merciful, not because we have done right. Lord, hear us. Lord, forgive us. Lord, list to us, and act! In order that everyone will know that you are God, do not delay!…”
    You said, “And this means we will not need any congress or president to do it for Him. He already knows how to handle things. He created everything. He is the one with the power, not the politicians. He will favor the leaders who honor him with their lives. He will turn his back on those who don’t.”

    so, regardless of what our differences are, we are the body of Jesus Christ must pray for the leaders that God has ordained and put into place for such a time as this.
    Veda

  5. Hi VEda

    Very good reference from Daniel.

    blessings
    marianne

  6. Marianne and all–

    This morning just as I had finished praying the Daniel chapter nine prayer for our country, all of a sudden, the Holy Spirit dropped this reference into my spirit and mind– although He did not clarify the meaning, I will share this with you all –maybe one of us will get an interpretation.
    Isaiah 44:28 and then Isaiah 45:1-13.
    I looked up Cyrus in Strong’s concordance and he was the king of Persia.
    Maybe later on the Holy Spirit will give me more to share with readers.
    In Jesus Christ my Lord –
    Veda

  7. Oh! My Goodness–

    After the Lord Jesus Christ (via the Holy Spirit) gave me the Scripture about Cyrus this morning, my curiousity lead me to begin studying about him.
    This is so amazing and reinforces my faith in Him–
    First, Cyrus was a king who ruled over the Jews when they were in captivity who the Lord gave tremendous power to (Isaiah 44 and 45)
    The Lord ordained him to be a liberator of His people even before he was born.
    The Lord appointed and anointed him to rule over His people.
    During his reign, Cyrus sent the Jews “packing”– the Lord used him to send the Jews back to their homeland and to start building the Temple.
    Also, Wikipedia says that, “The Persian Empire (Cyrus as king over) was a series of Iranian or Iranian speaking empires that ruled over the Iranian plateau, the original Persian homeland, and beyond in Western Asia, South Asia, Central Asia and the Caucasus. It was formed under Cyrus the Great.

    Wow! This is falling into place because we know what happens when the Jews return home to finish building the Temple in Jerusalem. Also, the next president may very well need to be a person who can use his constructive relationships with Iran and other Jewish opponents in order to negotiate a peaceful return of the Jews to their homeland.

    I am just starting to put this together about what the Holy Spirit was saying to me regarding the analogy between Cyrus and the next leader of the United States.

    As the Truth unfolds, I will share my thoughts.
    Veda

  8. Veda,

    Cyrus was benevolent toward the Jews. From the way things look, if any President sends the Jews packing back to Israel, it will either be due to deception, or to drive them out.

    The one who negotiates a “successful” peace deal with Israel’s enemies is the anti-christ Himself.

    blessings
    marianne

  9. Marianne,
    No, the Bible does not agree with you on that point about the Anti-Christ. I think that idea came about from the movie series of Left Behind or one of those types of movies.
    I keep hearing people say that the anti-christ will bring peace to the middle east, but that is not Scriptural.
    Veda

  10. For sure, the Bible does tell us that many “false” messiahs will arise and cry “peace, Peace” but this is not what the role of the anit-christ –

  11. Veda

    The prophecy is in the book of daniel.

    blessings
    marianne

  12. Marianne,
    After a careful search, there are only 5 references of the anti-christ in the Bible. Both are New Testament references– and I was not able to locate a reference to the anti-christ in the book of Daniel.
    In First John 2:18 – “My children, the end is near! You were told that the Enemy of Christ (anti-christ) would come; and now many enemies of Christ have already appeared, and so we know that the end is near. (19) These people really did not belong to our fellowship, and thiat is why they left us; if they had belonged to our fellowship, the would have stayed with us. But they left so that it might be clear that none of them really belonged to us. (20) But you have had the Holy Spirit poured out on you by Christ, and so all of you know the truth. (21) I write you, then, not because you do not know the truth; instead, it is because you do know it, and you also know that no lie ever comes from the truth. (22) Who, then, is the liar? It is anyone who says that Jesus is not the Messiah. Such a person is the Enemy of Christ (anti-christ)– he rejects both the Father and the Son. (23) For whoever rejects the Son rejects also the Father; whoever accepts the Son has the Father also.
    According to Scripture, then, the anti-christ is the one who denies the Messiahship of Christ– both presidential candidates publicly proclaim Christ as their Lord– so I don’t think the reference to Cyrus being one who was able to negotiate a peaceful return of the Jews to the homeland necessarily leads to the anit-christ. I think it leads to the Jews returning to the homeland to rebuild the Temple under peaceful conditions–like in the time of Cyrus (see Ezra,also).
    In order for me to examine the Old Testament reference to the anit-christ, Please let me know the Scriptural reference to the anti-christ in the book of Daniel.
    Thanks– in the Name of Jesus Christ our Lord,
    Veda

  13. Veda,

    Read the book of Daniel. You will find it. Remember the word anti-Christ is a new testament term. They did not use this word in the old testament.

    Cyrus is dead. There is not going to be anyone like him again.

    blessings
    marianne

  14. Marianne,
    Scriptural reference? Daniel ____chapter ____ verses? I am not able to locate reference to what you say is about the anti-christ.
    Furthermore, the “abomination of desolation” is to be set up in the Temple. (Daniel 12:11) (see also Matthew 24:15 15″Therefore when you see the (A)ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in (B)the holy place ((C)let the reader understand),”
    That means that the Temple (holy place)must be already completed at that time.
    What I am saying is that the next American president will send the Jews back home to build the Temple in a peaceful environment. I think that’s the symbol of Cyrus– a friend of the Jews and one who will orchestrate a peaceful return of the Jews back to homeland.
    Also, have you written a piece on the re-building of the Temple and the timing involved?
    Veda

  15. Veda,

    If the next president sends the Jews home because he has created “peace” over there, then this is the false peace prophesied. The person who creates the false peace will be the antichrist.

    There are hundreds of references from over the past century to pick from. I would not be able to go through all that. Just do a search on the internet and bring things up.

    http://www.bibleuniverse.com/prophecy/daniel-7-revelation-13-compared.asp

    http://www.mt.net/~watcher/date_set.html

    https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/the-fouth-beast-of-daniel-and-revelation-the-antichrist/

    The covenant the antichrist will confirm for one week ( 7 years) is the peace treaty.

    blessings
    marianne

  16. Marianne,
    Then, you are saying that McCain is the anti-christ because as president he will send the Jews home in a peaceful environment?

  17. Veda,

    No. I am not saying that the next President – if it is McCain – will send the Jews anywhere.

    You said that.

    McCain is not sending anyone anywhere…..

    If Jews leave this country, it is because either they are unhappy, or the gog and magog war has occured, and Israel has gotten a divine victory….they do not want to leave here yet.

    it will not be due to a presidential peace effort, as far as I know

    However, I was saying that only the antichrist will set up a false peace treaty.

    blessings
    marianne

  18. Marianne,
    As you know the main focus of Jews (all over the world) has (and continues to be) to return to the homeland in a safe and free environment. Most of the Jews who are here in the US (and other places) are here because of the hostile environment in the middle east and the blatent hatred for them by opponents.
    I won’t say that they are “unhappy” but those TRUE Jews deeply desire to return to their own home to help re-build the Temple (as God has already ordained and promised them)–
    If McCain (as president) does not send them there, then he will not fulfill the ultimate purpose God has ordained for the Jews and for the next president of the united states.

    The prophesy God gave me (through the Holy Spirit of Jesus Chirst my Lord) was that the next president has already been ordained by Him–even before he was born–
    The analogy the Holy Spirit gave me about the next president and Cyrus the Great lead me to believe (and this is just based on my own research–the Holy Spirit has not fully explained) that there were at least five similarities between the next president and Cyrus:
    (1) as Cyrus was so the next president will be a friend to the Jews
    (2) as Cyrus did, the next president will enable the Jews to return to the homeland and start to re-build the Temple

    (3) as Cyrus did, so the next president will be instrumental in implementation of a peaceful environment while the Jews rebuild the Temple

    (4) Although he was (will be) known to be a great leader, who at one point controlled one of the greatest Empires ever seen, (America) he will be best remembered for his unprecedented tolerance and magnanimous attitude towards those he defeated.
    (5) He showed great forbearance and respect towards the religious beliefs and cultural traditions of other races. These qualities earned him (and will be true for the next president)the respect and homage of all the people over whom he ruled.

    From Richard T. Ritenbaugh
    (Forerunner, “Prophecy Watch,” March 1999) “Sometime around 700 BC, God inspired the prophet Isaiah to write a prophecy concerning “His anointed,” His messiah. This person would act for God upon earth, conquering kingdoms, rebuilding Jerusalem and the Temple, and shepherding His people. God would go before him—even hold his hand, Isaiah writes—giving him fame, riches and power as only God can.” and “God raised Cyrus up to do His bidding to prove to him and all the world who is the true God! God went before Cyrus (verse 2), paving the way for his victories and policies so that His will and His plan would move forward. We should be able to look back at history and see how God worked to bring all the necessary elements into place for His purpose to be fulfilled.”
    He goes on to write, “Mashiah simply means “anointed” or “anointed one.” The Old Testament writers use it and its verb form, mashah, to describe kings (David, Saul, even Gentile kings like Hazael— II Samuel 1:14; 12:7; I Kings 19:15); priests, including the high priest (Leviticus 4:3, 5); and prophets (I Kings 19:16; Isaiah 61:1). Normally, these people were anointed with oil in a ritual as a sign of being set apart for the office that they were about to fulfill. Thus, at its most basic, mashiah indicates a person God authorizes and sets apart for His service.”
    (. He is the only Gentile to be designated as a messiah, a divinely-appointed king, in the Tanakh (Isaiah 45:1-6).)
    Finally, Cyrus’ reign was best known for Multiculturalism, a word coined to express the coexistence and peaceful cohabitation of peoples from different background and culture in one land. A doctrine which is the foundation of advanced societies especially in Australia and the USA and which was also Cyrus’s Claim to fame. (Cyrus the Great in Sydney Australia)

    So, this is where I am now.
    Veda

  19. Veda

    The Jews are slowing going back on their own from around the world. The Holy Spirit is doing is, not due to any current or future American Presidents.

    The ONLY reason they are returning is because of persecution. Yes, they love Israel, but it gets attacked a lot. The reason they are returning is because their countries are more dangerous than Israel, so they escape there to get away from the country they live in.

    Since the Holy spirit does no permit sin, or excuse it, or ascribe the role of the anti-Christ as a Cyrus personality, or contradict scripture, I do not believe who you are talking to is the holy spirit. The holy spirit would not allow you to hold such liberal views on sin. You need to stop communicating with this spirit and read the bible prophecies about the return of the Jews. It says nothing about a Cyrus figure.

    I disagree. You are wrong about any future President being so kind as to provide for 6 million Jews to leave the USA.

    1. Only the Holy SPirit sends them anywhere, not man
    2. Only the Messiah enables the Jews to rebuild the temple.
    3. Liberal Jews, which is most of them, do not really want to go back there. We have had prosperous times before, and peace treaties before, and they did not want to move back. Only something negative would push them there, or a trick from the anti-Christ guaranteeing them a peace, which is really false.
    4. Liberal Jews would only go back if they were being persecuted here, or the Messiah showed up over there, or the treaty is signed with the anti-Christ.

    so we disagree again.

    God bless you

    marianne

  20. Marianne,

    Of course, its ok for you to disagree with me as much as you want, but Please, please, please adhere to the Scripture which says,
    “I assure you that people can be forgiven all their sins and all the evil things they may say. But whoever says evil things against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, because he has committed an eternal sin. (3) Jesus said this because some people were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit in Him’.” Mark 3: 28 – 30
    And, some people are saying I have an evil spirit–
    But, as we all know, time will ultimately reveal the TRUTH–as God always does–

    The Holy Spirit (who is the inspirer of all Bible Scripture) does ascribe Cyrus as the ordained leader and “to Cyrus, You are the one who will rule for Me; you will do what I want you to do; you will order that Jerusalem be rebuilt and that the foundations of the Temple be laid.” Isaiah 44:28– and it is TRUE that Cyrus was a “heathen” king who allowed all types of religous tolerance and built temples of worship for all peoples that were conquered under his rule.
    In other words, the Holy Spirit of God anointed him to rule, gave him the power to conquer all nations, ordained his rulership before he was even born, and then allowed him to be one of the most liberal acting rulers ever– for sure, Cyrus is known to the Jews and others as the “liberator” and mostly for his doctrines on “human rights” and tolerance on ALL religions.
    So, Marianne, I am basing my thoughts on what the Holy Spirit has revealed to me along with actual facts from the Bible (which I read continuously every day–all day long–especially when I communicate in writing as I am doing now).
    So, you are mistaken when you say, “Since the Holy spirit does no[t] permit sin, or excuse it, or ascribe the role of the anti-Christ as a Cyrus personality, or contradict scripture, I do not believe who you are talking to is the holy spirit. The holy spirit would not allow you to hold such liberal views on sin”–
    The Holy Spirit says for you to check out the Scripture about what He says about Cyrus–or just look at who Jesus Christ was attracted to– the Bible even says that, “John the Baptist came, and he fasted and drank no wine, and you said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ The Son of Man came, and he ate and drank, and you said, ‘Look at his man! He is a glutton and winedrinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God’s wisdom, however, is shown to be true by all who accept it.” Luke 7:33-35 and then, Matthew 11:18-19 “When John came, he fasted and drank no wine, and everyone said, ‘He has a demon in him!’ When the Son of Man came, he ate and drank, and everyone said, ‘Look at this man!He is a glutton and winedrinker, a friend of tax collectors and other outcasts!’ God’s wisdom however, is shown to be true by its results.”

    Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, understood the sinful nature of all human beings– it was the “religious right” (Pharisees, Scribes, Saducees etc. who were intent on conserving the status quo of religion and hated Christ because of His liberal views that actually broke the Law of Moses on many occasions i.e. healing on the Sabbath, disciples not properly ritually washing before eating, allowing the woman with the issue of blood to touch Him, and the most important one, calling Himself the Son of God –which really made the religious leaders mad enough that they decided to kill Him) who said he had a demon when he fratanized with sinners through the Love of God inside of Him.

    Remember, Proverbs 3:5-6 “Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.”
    Lovingly,
    Veda

  21. Marianne,
    Why do you think that so many people are “undecided” about who to vote for at this late date–
    Don’t you realize that between the polls’ “margin of error” and the number of undecided voters there lies the miracle of God?
    Veda

  22. Veda

    Cyrus is dead. He is gone and will do nothing more for the Jews.

    Your scriptures, fine as they are, are unrelated to the topic.

    Look at what you just said. You are disagreeing that Holy Spirit is holy.

    So, you are mistaken when you say,
    “Since the Holy spirit does no[t] permit sin, or excuse it, or ascribe the role of the anti-Christ as a Cyrus personality, or contradict scripture, I do not believe who you are talking to is the holy spirit. The holy spirit would not allow you to hold such liberal views on sin”–
    The Holy Spirit says for you to check out the Scripture about what He says about Cyrus–or just look at who Jesus Christ was attracted to–

    I am mistaken to think the Holy Spirit would not support sin? This proves you are listening to a lying spirit.

    The margin of error in this election was created by dishonest reporters who serve Satan himself.

    blessings
    marianne

  23. Marianne,
    The Holy Spirit gave me Cyrus only as an ANALOGY to understand one of the purposes and roles of the next president. (and this was, as you recall, just after I had prayed the prayer of Daniel 9)

    Yes, Cyrus is dead–but just as the Lord Jesus Christ used the analogy to compare Elija with John the Baptist as His forerunner, the Holy Spirit used Cyrus to help me understand the next president of the US.

    The Holy Spirit is only Holy. His Truth reveals to us, not our will, but the will of our Father in Heaven–
    I love reading the Word of God (the Holy Bible) and communicating with the Holy Spirit– He is the only One who knows the “mind of God” The Scripture says, “The Spirit searches everything, even the hidden depths of God’s purposes. It is only a person’s own spirit within him that knows all about him; in the same way, only God’s Spirit know all about God. We have not received this world’s spirit; instead, we have received the Spirit sent by God, so that we may know all that God has given us. (13) So the, we do not speak in words taught by human wisdom, but in words taught by the Spirit, as we explain spiritual truths to thsoe who have the Spirit. Whoever does not have the Spirit cannot receive the gifts that come from God’s Spirit. Such a person really does not understand them; they are nonsense to him, because their value can be judged only on a spiritual basis. (15) Whoever has the Spirit, however, is able to judge the value of everything, but no one is able to judge him. (16) As the scripture says, ‘Who know the mind of the Lord? Who is able to give him advice?” We, however, have the mind of Christ.” 1 Corinthians 2:11-16

    So, you may not agree that the Holy Spirit has searched the “hidden depths of God’s purposes” and has revealed a tiny fraction of that to us through this analogy– that does not change the fact. We have the mind of Christ.

    Yes, the margin of error and the report of undecided voters may have been created by dishonest reporters who serve Satan himself (as you say), but God says what the devil meant for evil, He means it for good. Remember, All things work together for good to those who love God and are the called according to His purpose.
    In other words, Marianne, NO DEVIL IN HELL CAN THRWART THE PLANS AND PURPOSES OF ALMIGHTY GOD!
    Lovingly,
    Veda

  24. Marianne,
    Now, I am not at all concerned about being judged by you or by any human standard; I don’t even pass judgment on myself. My conscience is clear, but that does not prove that I am really innocent. The Lord is the one who passes judgment on me. So you should not pass judgment on anyone before the right time comes; he will bring to light the dark secrets and expose the hidden purposes of people’s minds. And then everyone will receive from God the praise He deserves.

  25. Veda

    You refuse to get the point.

    I am not disagreeing with the real Holy Spirit.

    I am saying that the spirit you talk with contradicts the truth of the Holy Spirit, by what he leads you to think, or allows you to think is ok, when it isn’t

    blessings
    marianne

  26. Marianne,

    The Holy Spirit says,
    “The power to rule over the world belongs now to our Lord and His Messiah, and He will rule forever and ever!”

    “Then the twenty-four elders who sit on their thrones in front of God threw themselves face downward and worshipped God, saying:
    “Lord God Almighty, who is and who was!
    We thank you that you have taken your great power and have begun to rule!”

    Veda’s mind is dead and the mind of Christ operates in me now. That’s how I think, believe, and operate–now, Marianne. My mind is filled with “those things that are good and deserve praise; thing that are true, noble, right, pure, lovely, and honorable.” (Philippians 4:8)
    I don’t lean on my own understanding because my reasoning and human thinking is flawed–to say the least. As the Holy Scriptures says, “For the full content of divine nature lives in Christ, in His humanity, and we have have been given full life in union with Him. HE IS SUPREME OVER EVERY SPIRITUAL RULER AND AUTHORITY. (Colossians 2:9–emphasis mine) That’s why I keep saying that this national leadership issue is already done in the mind of God– we are just going through the motions– that’s why He says, “don’t be anxious” His will is done in earth as it is in heaven. No spiritual power, authority, or principality can spoil God’s plan for our nation.

    Although I don’t always fully understand the full meaning of what the Spirit reveals through Scripture, eventually–by-and-by He will unfold His meaning and some of His purposes to me– as I have need to know. I guess I don’t really need to know as much as I would like to know–

    For sure, God wants us to know that He is in control over all– He already has the election, the future of the Jews, the rebuilding of His Holy Temple, and all the future– all this is in His Mighty Hands– and He wants us to trust what He is doing. Trust what He has spoken shall come to pass– We may not understand His works, and who He decides to use for His purposes– but I have learned that all things work together for good to those of us who love God and are the called according to His purposes–

    He has a definite and concrete plan (not a plan A and a Plan B) for this nation– for the people of this nation— to fulfill Jesus’ prayer for His body–”I pray that they may all be one, Father! May they be in us, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they be one, so that the world will believe that you sent me. I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one; I in them and you in me, so that they may be completely one, in order that the world may know that you sent me and that you lovem them as you love me.” John 17:20-23 God desires for us to be one– not for our benefit, but for the benefit of the world– that they may believe and be saved. For it is His will that all be saved and come to the knowledge of Jesus Christ.
    This present time we are experiencing is just part of the unveiling of His full plan for us. God is in control! Trust His Mighty plan and purpose!

    Marianne, I did not particularly ask for this revealation, He saw fit–for some strange reason– to give this to me. I am only sharing what He has given to me.

    The Holy Scripture says, “…when all things are brought out to the light, then their true nature is clearly revealed, for anything that is clearly revealed becomes light.” Ephesians 5:13-14 The light, of course, is Jesus Christ– “The Word was the source of life, and this life brought light to mankind.” John 1:4 This was the real light– the light that comes into the world and shines on all mankind. (John 1:8)

    Hallelujah! Praise the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ.

  27. Marianne,
    Just a quick thought question, jsut a question for thinking, you need not respond in writing–
    The Scribes, Pharasees, Saducsees, High Priest, etc. were all considered to be the authorities on religious matters and God according to Jewish Law (the laws given to Moses). They upheld the laws to the most strict and righteous interpretation, and even Saul (Apostle Paul) was one of the most righteous religious leaders of his time– he said he, “… I was circumcised when I was a week old. I am an Israelite by birth, of the tribe of Benjamin, a pure-blooded Hebrew. As far as keeping the Jewish Law is concerned, I was a Pharisee, and I was so zealous that I persecuted the church. As far as a person can be righteous by obeying the commands of the Law, I was without fault. But all those things that I might count as profit I now reckon as loss for Christ’s sake. … I no longer have a righteousness of my own, the kind that is gained by obeying the Law. I now have the righteousness that is given through faith in Christ, the righteousness that comes from God and is based on faith.” Philippians 3:4-9

    Anyway (now imagine yourself in their position) what do you think they thought about and said about Jesus Christ when He came and began to teach the Jewish people about the reality of His Father?
    He taught them that the Sabbath was made for man, not man made for the Sabbath. When He taught them that it was ok to heal and do other works of God on the Sabbath (which, in the Old Testament) God said that anyone who did anything on the Sabbath should be stoned to death.
    When He healed the lame man on the Sabbath or when He turned water into wine, or when he healed the centurion’s servant (by the way, he was a “heathen”) or he ministered to the prostitute who anointed His feet to prepare Him for His burial– or when He converted the woman (who had many husbands) at the well or when He ministered to the Samaritan (who He called dog) or when he called the tax collector, or saved the thief on the cross next to Him, or used Peter–even though He said Satan was controlling Peter when Peter told Him that he would not allow Him to be crucified–
    or how He dealt with the woman who was caught in the very act of adultry– which, according to the Law of Moses she was to be stoned to death because there were two or more witnesses–
    all these sinners would have never been addressed or ministered to by the religious leaders of that time to be converted from sin –but Jesus came to save those who were lost– He mingled with sinners and the outcasts– He loved the sinners and was rejected by His own people because He came to His own and His own received Him not–
    Question: Do you think that the religious leaders of that time whose duty it was to uphold the Laws of God– at least slightly thought that Jesus Christ’s behavior was “liberal”– meaning stretching the conservative views of God and the Law that they had upheld all along? Or liberal– meaning liberating the sinner from the bondage of sin?
    Why do you think they eventually killed Jesus Christ on the cross (at least, the reason they thought they were killing Him)?
    Just food for thought!
    Veda

  28. Hi Marianne, I agree with you.
    Also, I applaud your efforts to encourage Biblical discussion and also in establishing a site whereby everyone is encouraged to participate. I have noticed however, that some of us bloggers have overused this privilege and often post several long-winded lenthy comments that actually say very little which is relevant to the original post. Perhaps you could ask all bloggers to be a little bit more considerate and concise in their posting practices. How’s about a 250 word limit rule? I don’t feel that God is quite as impressed by our many words as we sometimes seem to be. (Think about how Jesus himself behaved before Herod in [Luke 23;8-9]. Doesn’t God want us to have a more quiet spirit and to become better listeners to the Holy Spirit? The same holds true in our prayers to God, we should learn to listen more and talk less. [Matthew 23;14]

    But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
    [1 Peter 3;4]

  29. Hi all:

    I find these comments distrubing:

    Veda wrote,

    (1) as Cyrus was so the next president will be a friend to the Jews

    Beloved Cyrus was dealt with by God to release the Jews. Ezra 1:2. He was not a friend but understood someone larger then him was controlling their release. Jeremiah prophecy the Jews would be there for 70 years, and it was time for them to leave.

    Next you wrote:

    (2) as Cyrus did, the next president will enable the Jews to return to the homeland and start to re-build the Temple

    The Holy Ghost is working to bring the Jews home. If you will look at Ezra 1:2 you will see Cyrus position was not his, but God’s;

    ‘The LORD, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms of the earth and he has appointed me to build a temple for him at Jerusalem in Judah.

    He didn’t volunteer, but was directed. He would not have released them without the Lord moving upon his heart. He was not Jewish nor a friend of Jews. He had captives from many lands and none had ever been release until God moved.

    The statement below is false and has nothing to do with the end time temple which is to be built:

    You wrote:

    (5) He showed great forbearance and respect towards the religious beliefs and cultural traditions of other races.
    These qualities earned him (and will be true for the next president)the respect and homage of all the people over whom he ruled.

    My God. There is only one true path. Your respect for other religions means you are willing to not persuade them of the one true God, but recieve them, there by condemning them to hell. True love warns others of their missing the mark. Cyrus served many gods, to him YHVH was just another.

    Yes, Cyrus was obedient, but according to studies and many scholars he had another reason for saying “yes, go home,” other then the Lord’s commandment. He was willing as long as they were willing to pray for him, and bow before him.
    (He often had prayers offered by many pagan worshippers in the land.)
    If you will remember the three hebrew men who refused to worship other gods were thrown into the furance.

    These three pledged their loyalty to the king; not a problem; worshiping his god was a serious problem.
    These men recieved a promotion that irritated certain Chaldeans who began looking for a way to get them in trouble.
    The decree was that anyone who didn’t fall down and worship the statue would immediately be thrown into a fiery furnace.
    He did not blindly accept the accusations against them; he gave them a chance to prove themselves.
    He offered them a choice: worship or the fiery furnace, i.e. life or death.
    The three men chose a principled stance: they would not worship another god (which would break the first two Commandments) regardless of the outcome.

    Your view favors accepting all religions and living in peace with them is inclusion, and that is heresy.

  30. I think too many are fighting in spirit and not letting God work by all who trust and believe in him.(surrender)trust. we are told to pray and watch. In the end times it is told we would be fighting against God! Christ said “follow me” he surrendered to God in obedience no matter the outcome, they spat on him,beat him,cursed him till the pharisees killed him, the most religious men. It is said Satan will claim he is God and deceive the nations. Today many preachers feed us, that we are as God or to be as God! we become prideful and we become like the pharisees in this case, forgetting Christ that he died for us sinners. We are to humble ourselves. We are to be like children, not God. If we try to be like God! us too will be cast out like Satan. He wanted to be God and he was thrown out of heaven. We must surrender and admit we are sinners and we need help. Not be proud and condemn, that is being too proud.

  31. Hi Rev Williams

    Every quote you gave was from Veda, none were from me. Just clarifying things. I do not think there is a future Cyrus. Cyrus is dead.

    blessings
    marianne

  32. Hi Brandy,

    Very good points. What views you might see here are:

    some think all is preordained by God so do nothing about the events around us, just submit, do not participate.

    vs.

    others saying our choices matter, and God looks at our choices, hears our prayers, and looks at our hearts, when He decides an outcome.

    blessings
    marianne

  33. To Rev. Williams and all–
    I will make my comments quick and Holy Spirit lead– through the Lord Jesus Christ–
    First, let me fully apologize for my lengthy-ness– I am a writer, researcher and professor, so its kind of my habit to do that– and as the Holy Spirit speakes to me, I just go ahead and write what He narrates.
    Anyway, I agree with the characteristics that Rev Williams has so eloquently researched about Cyrus– those will be the qualities of the next president of the US–
    I especially agree with Brandy, who by the Holy Spirit said, “I think too many are fighting in spirit and not letting God work by all who trust and believe in him.(surrender)trust. we are told to pray and watch.”
    And especially to Mr. T– again, I really apologize for my long-windedness– no offense intended.
    Lovingly,
    Veda

  34. As a Jew visiting the Western Wall a prayer is recited that the Temple will be built speedily in our day, for it will be a time of trouble. The sense of urgency to have the Temple built and the Glory of God present among his people as security for it will be a time of great distress in the World and again the Jew will be the target of international hatred. For this reason, Yeshua sets his glorious feet upon the Mount of Olives opposite the Eastern Gate or the Kings Gate which once led directly into the sanctuary and the Holy of Holies, he will provide escape for the remnant of Israel.

  35. Marianne,
    One more thing (again, sorry, Mr. T) I guess I fit into another category than the two you described to Brandy–

    It is my belief that God does not make “decisions” as we humans see decision-making. His Will is what is done in earth as it is in heaven.

    Believers (who are Spirit filled) surrender to Him and allow the HOly Spirit to pray through us as we yeild to His will. (Scripture says that we don’t even know how to pray).

    When we agree with what His will is, then our prayers are answered in the affirmative.
    The KEY is surrender– to the Will of God–through the Word of Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit.

    That’s one reason that “praying in the Holy Spirit” is so powerful and the “feverent prayers” of a “Righteous man [person] avail much” they avail much because they are in accord with HIs will.
    I guess I’d say that its almost like being a vessel of God where His will operates in and through us to bring about His purpose in this earth realm– when we empty our will and desires and wants and yeild to Him– as Brandy said, ” Christ said “follow me” he surrendered to God in obedience no matter the outcome”
    That’s where I am heading–
    Lovingly,
    Veda

  36. My Prayers are with you all.
    There is no doubt now that we are in the last days.
    blessings to the believers in USA

  37. Hi Bee,

    Now that Obama is the new president, we can expect a spiritual darkness to come over this country.

    Obama will be the death of America.

    The first 2 years might look “OK” – because of fake appearances – but the last 2 will be real hell on earth.

    Satan now has his man in the White House.

    God has turned his back on this country, so it will be just a matter of time now.

    blessings
    marianne

  38. Hi M
    yes, now is definitely the beginning of the end, now is the time to arm ourselves for spiritual warfare.
    But God’s great mercy is bringing this upon us so we have one last time to turn to Him and turn from our sinful ways.
    Now Marianne our work really begins, but that means we need to go into the hard core truth of Christ and make sure we know what is right.
    Let’s fight the good fight for our lord and Savior.
    blessings
    B

  39. One more thing you may be interested in ;
    remember I made the comparison between Obama and Mandela, and how the world thought Mandela was a saviour to this country but only opened the door for hell and his demons to be released as Obama will also be the same character to the US.
    here is an article on our news oulining the same thoughts.

    Maybe now the rest of the Christian world will understand what we went thru in 1994, and are still suffering under.
    Read Isaiah 30, the Beasts of the South, a people the Egyptians were ashamed of as they brought no profit.
    We here know who Isaiah is referring to and this leads us into the Mark of the Beast. Something accepted in our minds.
    For them that have ears let them hear !
    Blessings
    B

  40. sorry link

    http://www.news24.com/News24/South_Africa/News/0,,2-7-1442_2421320,00.html

  41. Hi Bee,

    I guess we can then expect the same treatment….murder of american christians and jews.

    blessings
    marianne

  42. Dear Veda,

    Rev Williams was trying to explain to you that the next president will NOT be like Cyrus.

    Obama will NEVER be like Cyrus. You need to get over that delusion.

    Obama is NOT a man of GOD. He is a tool of Satan, a black muslim, and will only bring a final destruction to this country. It is a shame that he is black, because he will bring shame to other blacks, and cause them to be punished by God for choosing him.

    He will bring spiritual harm to the Jews and Real Christians, and betrayal. Anyone who voted for Obama is not a real christian, because they allowed themselves to be deceived that Obama is their god, and not Yahweh.

    Blacks have whored after Obama as their Messiah. Now they will be punished for their decision.

    marianne

  43. Dearest Mariann and all,

    It is clear what Rev. Williams was saying– i.e. just as Cyrus was not a “man of God” so you say the new president is “not a man of God”

    Rev. Williams made some good points and most of those points agree with what the Holy Spirit gave me about the next President. Read again how Williams described Cyrus.

    I was in the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ when I gave that ANALOGY about Cyrus and the next president. It was not my thought or idea.
    And as Brandy (comments above) pointed out a TRUTH so reverently, we are not letting “God work by all who trust and believe in him.(surrender)trust. we are told to pray and watch.”
    So, as we pray and watch, the Holy Spirit will continue to reveal TRUTH, according to God’s will.

    For example, as Williams’ pointed out, Just as Cyrus embraced various religions, so will the new president– and most of the other characteristics of Cyrus that Rev. Williams wrote analogizeed the character of the new president.

    One particular disagreement I have with Williams is that the example he gave about the three Hewbrew men, that incident did not occur under Cyrus’ reign, it was King Nebuchadnezzar in Daniel 3. (Williams was probably just giving an example for the sake of discussion, I understand that)

    But nevertheless, if we just look at what Williams’ said and then compare what you believe about the new president, then the ANALOGY will emerge more clearly.

    I have never said Obama was holy, — he has his faults, weaknesses just like we all do– but I do know that he has often proclaimed Christ as his Savior. Who am I to judge his sincerity or anyone’s for that matter– ? But the Scripture does say that the devil can “disguise himself as an angel of light” and that no one can proclaim Jesus Christ is Lord unless she/he has the Spirit of Christ–

    I speak as the Holy Spirit of the Lord Jesus Christ gives me– I have never spoken on my own accord–unless I clarified it was my idea or opinion.

    Really, Marianne and all, anyone who chooses to see the work of God in this nation as “gloom and doom” then that’s a barometer of his/her spiritually and relationship with Almighty God. That’s just where God has him/her at this time and its for His grand plan and purposes. That’s ok.

    As for me, I am still trusting in the power of Almighty God– He is always in control– He will never leave us or forsake us!

    (as Scripture tells us in Proverbs 21:1) God actually controls the hearts and minds of kings (rulers) — what the devil meant for evil God makes it good.

    For sure, Romans 13 tells us, “…no authority exists without God’s permission and the existing authorities have been put there by God. WHOEVER OPPOSES THE EXISTING AUTHORITY OPPOSES WHAT GOD HAS ORDERED; AND ANYONE WHO DOES SO WILL BRING JUDGMENT ON HIMSELF. FOR RULERS ARE NOT TO BE FEARED BY THOSE WHO DO GOOD, BUT BY THOSE WHO DO EVIL. …BECAUSE HE IS GOD’S SERVANT WORKING FOR YOUR OWN GOOD….HE IS GOD’S SERVANT AND CARRIES OUT GOD’S PUNISHMENT ON THOSE WHO DO EVIL. (verses 1-5)
    All things work together for good to those who love God and are the called according to His purpose. (Romans 8:28)

    We, who love God and are the called according to His purpose know that all things (including this thing) work together for our good. Praise the Lord. Bless His Almighty Name. Hallelujah!

    Certainly, all true Believers will promote praying, fasting and repenting on behalf of our new national leader, the people of this wonderful nation (See Daniel Chapter 9)

    Again, I refer to Brandy (comments above) because it seems like she made such a profound yet simple observation, “We must surrender and admit we are sinners and we need help. Not be proud and condemn, that is being too proud.”

    Let’s join together in doing what Brandy has recommended and what the Scripture says.
    Lovingly,
    Veda
    PS I hope this “train of thought” was not too long– I went through and edited it for length :) (sorry, Mr. T)

  44. Veda

    Rev Williams was not agreeing with you. He was making distinctions that you missed.

    God will not forsake the true believers. Those that choose delusion over God will get punished.

    As far as Obama goes, you judge the tree by the fruit. His fruit is pro-Islam.

    marianne

  45. Hi Marianne
    I agree that a person should judge a tree by it’s fruit and not merely by someone simply saying that they are a christian. Unfortunately, our newly elected president Barak Obama continues to display many areas of concern for me in that he is pro-choice, lies about his past ties with muslims, has made many campaign promises that even the secular world say are impossible for him to fullfill,etc
    And to Veda,…It’s encouraging that you are trying to be more concise and downsizing your posts.

    Barak Obama’s muslim ties:
    http://www.brookesnews.com/070801obama.html
    http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5544

    Campaign pledges reality check:
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/29/eveningnews/realitycheck/main4557520.shtml

  46. Marianne you are correct. Cyrus was not a friend of the Jewish people. He was not one who cared for or befriended them, but rather was moved to release them, and then attempted to benefit by having them bow to him in the temple. The three Hebrews refused worship under Darius, one of the kings that followed Cyrus. It seemd that appointing oneself as a god was very common amongst the pagans, and is still practiced today.
    Obama is not a friend to the Jews, like Cyrus. He has his own religion but seeks to get others to follow his beliefs and worship, like Cyrus. Lukewarm Christains have been under a spell following blindly.
    This word came from a man of God i’ve met and know hears from God. His name is Fred Stone, the father of Perry Stone. He said, “the Holy Ghost said if my people knew what was coming they would be on their knee’s begging for mercy.”

  47. Rev Williams,
    Good morning, and Praise to the Lord Jesus Christ in all His glory! His mercy endures for ever! :)
    PLEASE READ CAREFULLY AND WITHIN THE SPIRIT OF JESUS CHRIST.

    As I was following your train of thoughts in the above comment and the previous piece you wrote about Cyrus, I was really getting into your thoughts, but I got a little off track when You said, “Cyrus was not a friend of the Jewish people. He was not one who cared for or befriended them” but, then you also said a few lines down, “Obama is not a friend to the Jews, like Cyrus. ” I guess this was just a typo–

    Also, according to Danile 3:1- “King Nebuchadnezzar had a gold statue made, ninety feet high and nine feet wide, and he had it set up in the plain of Dura in the province of Babylon…” It was King Nebuchadnezzar who commanded everyone to worship a gold statue and the three Hebrew men (Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego) refused to worship. Actually, King Cyrus conquered Babylon–

    I especially like this story about the three Hebrews(even though it has nothing directly to do with Cyrus) because it shows the mighty Hand of God controls the heart of the king (Pro 21:1) that even though the heathen king, Nebuchadnezzar, through his evil decree wanted everyone to worship him– through the act of these three Hebrew men’s faith in the True and Living God, the heart of this evil heathen king was transformed– in Danile 3:28-30 “The king said, ‘Praise the God of Shadrach, Meshac, and Abednego! —And now I command that if anyone of any nation, race, or language speaks disrespectully of the God of Shadrach, Meshac, and Abendnego, he is to be torn limb fro limb, and his house is to be made a pile of ruins. There is no other god who can resuce like this.”
    LET’S GO POINT-FOR-POINT IN LOOKING AT THIS ANALOGY:
    (1) Yes, Cyrus was moved by God to release the Jews– so will the new president of the US
    (2) Yes, Cyrus had his own religious beliefs and respected all other religions and pagan gods and worships– so will the new president of the US
    (3) Cyrus declared/decreed that the prisoners of Babylon (Jews) were not only freed but were encouraged to lay the foundations of the Second Temple (so will the new president of the US)
    (4) Cyrus was known for his policy of generosity toward the conquered and established a new era of Human Rights (the first human rights charter in the world)–and many say that the new president of the US “sympathizes” with terrorists– enemies, the captured
    (5) Cyrus the Great has been given many names, “Cyrus the enlightened liberator”, Cyrus the benevolent, Cyrus the law-giver, Cyrus the tolerant King, etc.– so has the new president been referred to as almost just the same names
    (6) Cyrus proclaimed “…everyone is free to choose a religion. People are free to live in all regions and take up a job provided that they never violate other’s rights, and declared himslef not a conqueror, but liberator– (farsinet.com) freedom of religion and social tolerance are characteristics that will be stressed by the next president (as we already have seen evidence)
    (7) Cyrus was almost immortalized in the Bible and called the “anointed of God” “chosen of God”– many Jews and others have called him the “anointed one” a messiah (not THE MESSIAH), so– even Marianne has said that, “Blacks have whored after Obama as their Messiah” and many more have referred to the new president as “the chosen one” or their messiah. (this has already happened)
    (8) Cyrus was known for his multicultural appreciation for people in the kingdoms he conquered– so, the new president SAYS HE is here to unite all people regardless of race, culture, ethnicity, gender, age, political leanings, etc.

    One other point,Rev. Williams–and I know you can appreciate what the Word says here as opposed to what “man” says–
    Isaiah 45:5-8 says, “I AM THE LORD; THERE IS NO OTHER GOD. I WILL GIVE YOU THE STRENGTH YOU NEED, ALTHOUGH YOU DO NOT KNOW ME. [GOD SAYS THAT THIS KING, CYRUS DID NOT KNOW HIM]. I DO THIS SO THAT EVERYONE FROM ONE END OF THE WORLD TO THE OTHER MAY KNOW THAT I AM THE LORD AND THAT THERE IS NO OTHER GOD. I CREATE BOTH LIGHT AND DARKNESS; I BRING BOTH BLESSING AND DISASTER. I, THE LORD, DO ALL THESE THING. I WILL SEND VICTORY FROM THE SKY LIKE RAIN; THE EARTH WIL OPEN TO RECEIVE IT AND WILL BLOSSOM WITH FREEDOM AND JUSTICE. I, THE LORD WILL MAKE THIS HAPPEN.’” (emphasis mine)
    Lovingly in Christ Jesus, My Lord
    Veda

  48. Thanks Mr T for the info. I hope everyone will look at what you have contributed and think about it.

    blessings
    marianne

  49. Wow Veda. You’re out there, but God bless!

  50. Marianne,

    Although I enjoy reading (for pleasure) various sites about the pros and cons of different topics, in order for us to stay within the will of God and stay focused on God through Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit always guides us to particular Scripture to substantiate what He says to us– His revelation has to agree with the written Word.

    The Holy Spirit just gave me this WORD–”Anyone who does not stay with the teaching of Christ, but goes beyond it, does not have God. Who ever does stay with the teaching has both the Father and the Son.” The Second Letter of John verse 9-11

    (I guess that’s why He lead me–first and foremost– to the Scriptures that spoke of Cyrus’ role in Biblical history.)

  51. Hi Rev Williams,

    You are funny. And I see nothing has changed….. ;)

    blessings
    marianne

  52. Hi Everyone, I have a question for you Veda.
    Did you remember to take your medication today? Someday we will be in heaven with Jesus you know? But I predict that even before that day comes for you Veda that some really sweet angels will be from up there in their white coats to give you the help you need and minister to you in ways you can not even imagine at this time.

    Blessings, Mr. T

  53. I was unsure whether to post this lesson but Veda is in need of help. This lesson has been pass down to countless semniaries and schools of ministry.
    Sorry it is so long, but I think we all can learn from it and learn to recognize the enemy from it. God bless.

    1. The devil mixes his lies with the truth, for he must use a truth to carry his lies. The believer must therefore discriminate, and judge all things. Satan is a “mixer.” If in anything he finds ninety-nine percent pure, he tries to insert one percent of his poisonous stream, and this grows, if undetected, until the proportions are reversed.

    2. In accepting the counterfeits of Satan, the believer thinks, and believes, he is complying with Divine conditions in order to ascend to a higher life; whereas he complies with conditions for Satanic workings in his life, and thereby descends into a pit of deception and suffering, with his spirit and motive pure.

    How evil spirits gain access to the believer, is the next question we need to consider.
    (1) how they deceive; (2) the ground given for deception; (3) where they enter; (4) the excuses the spirit makes to hide the ground it has claimed, to keep the believer in ignorance of his presence and the ground he holds; (5) the effect on the man deceived; and (6) the symptoms.

    3. In one who has been brought into fellowship with God, Satan can only gain ground in terms, by “wiles”; for he knows he will never get from a believer deliberate consent to the entry, and control of evil spirits. The Deceiver can only hope to obtain that consent by guile: i.e., by feigning to be God Himself, or a messenger from Him. He knows, too, that such a believer is determined to obey God at all costs, and covets the knowledge of God above all else on earth. There is, therefore, no other way to deceive this one, but by counterfeiting God Himself, His presence and His workings; and under pretence of being God, to obtain the co-operation of the man’s will in accepting further deceptions; so as eventually to lead to “possession” of some part of the believer’s mind or body, (not in the spirit man which is off limits) and thus injure or hinder his usefulness to God, as well as that of others who will be affected by him.

    COUNTERFEIT PRESENCE OF GOD

    How the powers of darkness counterfeit the presence of God to those ignorant of his devices may be as follows. At some moment when the believer is yearning for the sense of God’s presence, either alone, or in a meeting, and certain conditions are fulfilled, the subtle foe approaches, and wrapping the senses round with a soothing, lulling feeling–sometimes filling the room with light, or causing what is apparently a “breath from God” by a movement of the air–either whispers “This is the presence you have longed for,” or leads the believer to infer that it is what he has desired.

    Then, off his guard, and lulled into security that Satan is far away, some thoughts are suggested to the mind, accompanied by manifestations which appear to be Divine; a sweet voice speaks, or a vision is given, which is at once received as “Divine guidance,” given in the “Divine presence,” and hence beyond question as from God. If accepted as from God, when from the spirits of evil, the first ground is gained.

    The man or women is now so sure that God has called them do this or that. He is filled with the thought that he has been highly favoured of God, and chosen for some high place in His Kingdom. The deeply hidden self-love is fed and strengthened by this, and he is able to endure all things by the power of this secret strength. He has been spoken to by God! He has been singled out for special favour! His support is now within upon his experience, rather than upon God Himself, and the written Word.

    Through this secret confidence that God has specially spoken to him, the man becomes unteachable and unyielding, with a positiveness trending on infallibility.
    Does this sound like you?
    He or she cannot listen to others now, for they have not had this “direct” revelation from God. He is in direct, special, personal communion with God, and to question any “direction” given to him, becomes the height of sin. Obey he must, even though the direction given is contrary to all enlightened judgment, and the action commanded opposed to the spirit of the Word of God. In brief, when the man at this stage believes he has a “command” from God, he will not use his reason, because he thinks it would be “carnal” to do so–”common-sense” is lack of faith, and therefore sin–and “conscience” for the time being, has ceased to speak.

    Some of the suggestions made to the believer by deceiving spirits at this time, may be: (1) “You are a special instrument for God,” working to feed self-love; (2) “You are more advanced than others” working to blind the soul to sober knowledge of itself; (3) “You are different from others,” working to make him think he needs special dealing by God; (4) “You must take a separate path,” a suggestion made to feed the independent spirit; (5) “You must give up your occupation, and live by faith,” aiming at causing the believer to launch out on false guidance, which may result in the ruin of his home, and sometimes the work for God in which he is engaged.

    All these suggestions are made to give the man a false conception of his spiritual state; for he is made to believe he is more advanced than he actually is, so that he may act beyond his measure of faith and knowledge (Rom. 12: 3), and consequently be more open to the deceptions of the enemy.

    Upon the basis of the supposed revelation of God, and the special manifestation of His presence, and the consequent full possession of the believer by Him, the lying spirits afterwards build their counterfeits.

  54. Hi Rev Williams

    This might make a nice post. Is it ok if I use it with you as author?

    That way it will be up and posted, and not just in the comment section.

    blessings
    marianne

  55. Help yourself. I just want people to know the truth. I come out of deliverance ministry and myself and David Williams are aware of many of these facts. Sometime it takes awhile but the enemy can be seen when one takes a step back.

  56. Rev. Williams,
    Thanks for the lesson and for sure, I always welcome help–as long as it is Scriptural (based on what the Bible says–as opposed to what man says or personal opinions.)
    I will certainly study the Scriptures to find whether what you have articulated is sound and in agreement with what the Word of God says. According to Acts 17: 11 The people there were open-minded than the people in Thessalonica.
    I have only given what the Holy Spirit has given to me to share on this site.
    Remember what I commented to Marianne earlier,
    “Of course, its ok for you to disagree with me as much as you want, but Please, please, please adhere to the Scripture which says,
    “I assure you that people can be forgiven all their sins and all the evil things they may say. But whoever says evil things against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, because he has committed an eternal sin. (3) Jesus said this because some people were saying, ‘He has an evil spirit in Him’.” Mark 3: 28 – 30
    And, some people are saying I have an evil spirit– Bless the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ!

    1 Corinthians 12: 3 “… and no one can confess “Jesus if Lord,” unless he is guided by the HOly Spirit.”

    As Jesus Christ is Lord, so has the Holy Spirit spoken to you this day through His Word of Truth.

    God’s richest blessing and love to you,
    Veda

  57. To my brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus,

    “May God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord give you grace, mercy and peace– ”

    The discussion about the ANALOGY between the role of Cyrus as ruler and the new president started when I posted what the Lord Jesus Christ (through the Holy Spirit) gave me–just after I commited myself to what Marianne suggested at this posting (Next 72 hours) that those of us ” who are called by His name, humble ourselves, repent of our sins, and seek His face. If we do this, Yahweh God will hear us from heaven, show mercy, and heal our land.”

    As you recall, Marianne went on to write:
    And this means we will not need any congress or president to do it for Him. He already knows how to handle things. He created everything. He is the one with the power, not the politicians. He will favor the leaders who honor him with their lives. He will turn his back on those who don’t.It does not matter what the world says, or what the devil says. The only word that matters is the Word of God.
    She also said,
    “Please take the time in the last moments to repent, fast, pray, and seek God.”

    It was in that period of days/hours of earnest repenting, fasting, praying (directly from Daniel 9) and seeking the face of Almighty God that this revelation came to me from the Holy Spirit of Jesus Christ our Lord.

    I was just following what Marianne had suggested (which was, of course, Scriptural), and reporting what the Lord Jesus Christ gave me to share. Please, brothers and sisters in Christ Jesus–Don’t shoot me, I am just relaying the message! :)

    Lovingly,
    Veda Brown

  58. Dear Brothers and Sisters in the Lord Jesus Christ–

    We have gotten so far away from the original posting Marianne posted– Let’s get back to her original plea:
    She said “What we need to do – NOW – not tomorrow”

    “We do not deserve mercy, because we have not repented. We need to stop the selfishness and sins, get on our knees and beg forgiveness, and make a decision that only Yahweh God [God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ] is king in our lives.
    Fast and pray, and cry out to God. Then, he will provide relief for what we need”

    May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all, my brothers and sisters–

    Veda

  59. Marianne,
    I found this interesting post from one of your earlier pages and thought it was appropriate to add here as a comment– I hope you don’t mind me quoting you here on this page–
    Veda
    This is what you said on your page about exposing false teachers on so-called Christian web sites–

    “To do a good job exposing falseness or error, the site should:–state what the false teacher has said

    show proof that it is wrong, or how inconsistent it is with scriptures

    conclude that this is wrong/or heretical because of the proof

    explain what is true instead

    Wrong approach:

    ranting, bloodthirsty attacks expressing personal opinion, no proof, or inappropriate connection between their “proof” and what the person said.
    Obsession with the person, sarcasm, hatefulness, gossip, ridicule, generalizing specific mistakes, and condemning everything about the person. attacking others who disagree, who may have a more balanced view.
    False accusations, unsubstantiated remarks, assigning evil intent to teaching errors.

    Remember that not everyone with a false teaching is 100% wrong in ALL their theology. They may only have 10% that is wrong, or one teaching that is wrong, but the other 90% is valuable.

    If the site condemns everything about the person and denies what is correct about the person’s teachings, then you will fall into the trap of condemnation.

    I have seen sites accuse the person of being demon possessed, and that everything that happens in the ministry is evil. This is unfair.

    The trap:

    One or both of 2 things will happen

    If you happen to have a critical nature yourself, you will find yourself agreeing with them, and will end up doing an injustice to the person criticized, as well as contaminating your own spirit with negative remarks.

    We must always evaluate something fairly. We can argue with people and disagree, but we must be careful that we do not harm people personally. We must not let our passion for the truth hurt anyone.

    You will spend an endless cycle of self defense as you are constantly attacked and condemned. They will always want the last word, and as you try to give a good conclusion or answer, they will bind you with many confused arguments, and you will feel trapped, into constantly responding to them. This is a huge waste of time, and spiritual energy. It will drain you, and you will never convince them of your perspective.

    Negative Behaviors:

    they will attack, and attempt to destroy any true witness you have

    they launch attacks at you for innocent remarks

    Positive testimonies are rejected as doubtful, so if God helped you, then you are “lying,” or “deluded.” They do not believe you, since they “see” no proof from you. (They have no trouble lying themselves, however.)

    your words are twisted into the wrong meanings, and they consistently, and intentionally come to the wrong conclusions, since they have already made up their minds.

    They will put words in your mouth, and claim you said things that you did not say. Then they will attack you for saying these things. (insane !!)

    they will gang up on you (typical of religious spirits)

    they will claim to have “knowledge” of you that they can use to threaten you with instead of objectively addressing specific issues, they attack you as a person

    no evidence of Christian love

    they are only nice if you agree with them

    they are mean, cold, condescending, critical, condemning

    argumentative, full of strife, relentless, harassing, unforgiving, they are spiritually blind to anything you tell them, narrow-minded, you never get their approval, they are falsely “objective”, they can be quite savage in attacks –they speak curses over you to influence and control your opinion–they do not believe anything you say. spirit of unbelief present–they are spiritually superior to you – you have to take their advice and conclusions since you are in sin and they are right–they will tell you to repent, since you are guilty–they will focus on, and point out, all your “personal faults,” since they have no truth to fight back with.

  60. Seriously, do you think McCain would represent you?! I am sorry, but I don’t think God’s plan for human kind is linked with prejudice and anti-everythingnotamerican. He is troubled as everyone, and Obama was trought a lot, he served God with his actions.. McCain gives money to poor, Obama gave his labour.

  61. Hi Rafaela

    I did not mention candidates here. There were no perfect choices. That includes McCain, but Obama was definitely worse. I was hoping Romney would be a choice. Obama has no clue who God is, based on his actions, his associations, his voting record, and his speeches. But America has made its choice, and we will see what happens next.

    blessings
    marianne

    PS. I did not mean to sound so harsh here. As an American, I am extremely disappointed in our government at this time. There is no real leadership, just people with poor judgment, and they are the only ones that can afford to run for office and get support and votes. This poor leadership is very damaging to everyone, in all countries.

  62. Hi all. This is what I was afraid would happen with this man.

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama plans to sign an executive order ending the ban on federal funds for international groups that promote or perform abortions, officials told The Associated Press on Friday.

    The move, long expected in the Democratic president’s first week in office, will be welcomed by liberals and criticized by abortion rights foes.

    The policy bans U.S. taxpayer money, usually in the form of U.S. Agency for International Development funds, from going to international family planning groups that either offer abortions or provide information, counseling or referrals about abortion. It is also known as the “global gag rule,” because it prohibits taxpayer funding for groups that even talk about abortion if there is an unplanned pregnancy.

  63. Hi Rev Williams

    Some of what you said seems contradictory.

    end the ban on federal funds……

    vs

    bans US taxpayer money to provide for abortions.

    ??

    blessings
    marianne

  64. He is ending the ban on tax payer money that was imposed under Bush, and allowing the money to flow to these groups worldwide. Tax payer money will now go overseas to 3rd world countries to support abortions.
    I knew and so did you that he would reverse many decisions and side with liberals. He will move to approve same sex marriage next. We are in the last days and these things must come to pass in order for the Son of God to return. Pray for mercy.

  65. Hi Rev Williams

    ok. We cannot afford to pay for sin around the world. It would be different if it were for charity, like feeding the poor, then sending money might be justified.

    Apparently, he wants to bankrupt America to pay back all those overseas who supported his campaign.

    Sin is now legal. He also just released the Gitmo terrorists so they can go back to their countries and create more terror.

    here is one example:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

    He just undid a huge amount of work by anti-terror agents and the military by releasing this guy.

    in prayer
    mariane

  66. Hi Rev Williams

    ok. We cannot afford to pay for sin around the world. It would be different if it were for charity, like feeding the poor, then sending money might be justified.

    Apparently, he wants to bankrupt America to pay back all those overseas who supported his campaign.

    Sin is now legal. He also just released the Gitmo terrorists so they can go back to their countries and create more terror.

    here is one example:
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_yemen_al_qaida

    He just undid a huge amount of work by anti-terror agents and the military by releasing this guy.

    in prayer
    marianne

  67. I saw that. I wonder why so many Christians were blind to his sinfulness. We must pray for mercy and strength in these end days. God help us all.

  68. There’s only a few years left before the coming of Christ? I don’t want to be affected by the wrath of God, I fear because I know He is powerful. I keep seeking God these days, hopefully I will not be his target, even I still keep sinning? I totally agree how repent is not enough as said in one of your article, but to never do the same thing again is the best. Since I rarely pray because of shame, can you kindly help me pray for the power to change my sins or anything important? I don’t know how forgiveness be given, because I keep sinning the things I know it is wrong.

    • as I have explained before, you are sorry for what you did, you try your best to not do it again, you are forgiven, since God reads your heart.

    • Jess,
      I sense an honest desire in you to be right with God, as well as a genuine desire to repent. We are all sinners. Jesus died on the cross for you, and his blood is the sacrifice for those sins. It is by his blood that ALL your sins are forgiven, Past present and future. Believe, and Know this fact. Think about the creator God coming in Human form, and sacrificing for his creation…He must really love you for doing that. Surrender to his Love. Stop trying to change yourself, and Let the Spirit sanctify you. What sin I have overcome, was not of my doing But rather the work of his Spirit in Me. This can only happen when we surrender our will to His will.

      The Bible talks about “wives submitting to husbands”…well if Jesus is our groom, and we are his bride, how much sweeter is it to surrender to his Love, and let his love flow through you to others. The shame and guilt you are feeling is from this fact. Because he came in the flesh, he understands our weakness. it is in our weakness, that he reveals his love for us the most. When we say “Have mercy on me, a sinner”, that he loves us most. A humble and contrite heart.
      numbers 6:24-26

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