The Rape of Jerusalem

 

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The rape of Jerusalem will guarantee the swift downfall of America.

Will America be responsible for the Battle of Armageddon?

Since when does America have the right to give away property that does not belong to it.?

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Ancient map – see anything Muslim on here? All areas are Jewish.

Jerusalem has been the holy city of the Jews for over 3000 years. Now, the Jews will be passed over for a deal with the devil?

Joe 3:1 For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,

Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and [for] my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

Joe 3:3 And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.

Joe 3:4 Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompense me, swiftly [and] speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;

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FROM WND’S JERSALEM, BUREAU
Obama promises Arabs Jerusalem will be theirs
Official: President said Palestinian state with holy city capital ‘in American interest’


Posted: May 30, 2009
5:39 pm Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2009 WorldNetDaily

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Jerusalem

JERUSALEM – President Obama and his administration told Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during a meeting last week the U.S. foresees the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital, according to a top PA official speaking to WND.

"The American administration was very friendly to the position of the PA," said Nimer Hamad, Abbas’ senior political adviser.

"Abu Mazen (Abbas) heard from Obama and his administration in a very categorical way that a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital is in the American national and security interest," Hamad said.

***oh no, it isn’t!

Another PA official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told WND today that Obama informed Abbas he would not let Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu "get in the way" of normalizing U.S. relations with the Arab and greater Muslim world.

"We were told from this new administration they will not allow a Netanyahu government to hurt their efforts of rehabilitating U.S. relations with the Arab and Islamic world, which is a high priority of Obama," the official said, speaking during a visit to Cairo.

Also in Cairo today, Abbas met with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, where the Palestinian leader briefed Egypt’s president on his recent trip to Washington, saying the U.S. was committed to bringing about an end to Israeli construction in the West Bank.

Hamad’s comments about Jerusalem today come as controversy abounded regarding the U.S. position on Israel’s capital city.

Last week, the State Department refuted a speech in which Netanyahu said Jerusalem never will be divided.

"Jerusalem is Israel’s capital," Netanyahu said at an event marking Jerusalem’s reunification. "Jerusalem was always ours and will always be ours. It will never again be partitioned and divided."

***Netanyahu does not recall the prophecy of Joel here.

In response, the State Department released a statement that Jerusalem "is a final status issue."

"Israel and the Palestinians have agreed to resolve its status during negotiations. We will support their efforts to reach agreements on all final status issues," the statement said.

Also last week, a top Palestinian Authority official claimed in a WND interview that the Obama administration told the PA that Jerusalem will never be united under Israeli sovereignty.

"Americans said an open Jerusalem – yes. But a united Jerusalem under Israeli sovereignty – no," Hatem Abdel Khader, the PA’s minister for Jerusalem affairs, said in comments to both WND and Israel’s Ynetnews website.

"(The Obama administration) has made clear that Jerusalem must be accessible to everyone – but not united under Israel’s rule," Khader said.

Khader claimed the U.S. is cooperating with the PA to "thwart Israel’s plans in Jerusalem."

"When they collaborate with us in Israeli courts against home demolitions or the confiscation of land we see their attitude," he said.

Khader told WND, "The Americans are very present on the ground, and they are making pressure over Israeli authorities and even municipalities."

Palestinian state would jeopardize U.S. national security interests – and without Jerusalem there is no Palestinian state," he said.

U.S. helps Palestinians live illegally near Temple Mount

Khader’s claim the U.S. is helping the Palestinians gain a foothold in Jerusalem is accurate. In April, WND reported that under intense American pressure and following a nearly unprecedented behind-the-scenes U.S. campaign, the Netanyahu government has decided not to bulldoze Palestinian homes built illegally on Jewish-owned property in Jerusalem.

The issue is critical since the 80 homes in question are located in Silwan, an eastern Jerusalem neighborhood close to the Temple Mount and Jerusalem’s Old City that the Palestinians claim as a future capital.

Jewish groups have been working to fortify the community’s Jewish presence. Silwan is adjacent to the City of David, a massive archeological dig just outside the Temple Mount that is constantly turning up Temple artifacts.

Like tens of thousands of other Arab housing projects throughout eastern Jerusalem, the Palestinian homes in Silwan were illegally constructed on property long ago purchased by Jews. The Israeli government ordered the structures’ legal demolition.

But during a visit here in early March, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton strongly protested the planned bulldozing.

*** It is not her business. Illegal homes are encroachment, and should be removed. If Israel did this on Palestinian territory, everyone would scream “occupation!!!!”

"Clearly this kind of activity is unhelpful and not in keeping with the obligations entered into under the Road Map," she said. "It is an issue that we intend to raise with the government of Israel and the government at the municipal level in Jerusalem."

*** America’s Road Map to Hell.

The Road Map calls for Israel to freeze Jewish settlement expansion in the West Bank, but does not bar Israel from dismantling illegally constructed Palestinian homes in Jerusalem.

WND learned that in the weeks since Clinton’s visit here, the U.S. mounted an intensive campaign lobbying the Israeli government against tearing down the illegal Palestinian homes in Silwan.

The campaign included letters from the Middle East section of the State Department addressed to various Jerusalem municipalities, with copies of the letters sent to the offices of Israel’s prime minister and foreign minister.

The letters called on Israel to allow the illegal Palestinian homes in Silwan to remain and stated any demolitions would not foster an atmosphere of peace.

*** We allow illegal activity? We need to keep our nose out of this.

Also, in a follow-up visit here, State Department officials made it clear to their Israeli counterparts the U.S. opposes the Silwan bulldozing.

*** Flip flopping!

According to sources in the Israeli government, including in Netanyahu’s administration, a decision has been made not to bulldoze the illegal Palestinian homes.

*** Israel bends under pressure, it is getting stabbed to death.

The sources said the issue of the homes may be raised again in the future, but for the time being the houses will remain intact.

The sources attributed the decision against the bulldozing – which has not yet been announced – to the intense American campaign against the house demolitions.

Said one source in Netanyahu’s administration, "This was very frustrating to us. Can you imagine if a foreign government came in and told a city office in the U.S. not to tear down a house that was illegally constructed on someone else’s property?"

While Clinton opposed the Palestinian house demolitions, informed Israeli officials said the Obama administration is carefully monitoring Jewish construction in eastern Jerusalem and has already protested to the highest levels of Israeli government about evidence of housing expansion in those areas.

*** So, Palestinians can illegally build on Israeli property, but Jews cannot build upon their OWN property in Jerusalem?

The officials, who spoke on condition that their names be withheld, said that last month Obama’s Mideast envoy, George Mitchell, oversaw the establishment of an apparatus based in the U.S. consulate in Jerusalem that closely monitors eastern Jerusalem neighborhoods, incorporating regular tours on a daily basis.

The officials said that in recent meetings Mitchell strongly protested Jewish construction in eastern Jerusalem. Mitchell also condemned the work of nationalist Jewish groups to purchase property in Jerusalem’s Old City, including in areas intimately tied to Judaism.

Israel recaptured eastern Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount – Judaism’s holiest site – during the 1967 Six Day War.

The Palestinians, however, have claimed eastern Jerusalem as a future capital. About 244,000 Arabs live in Jerusalem, mostly in eastern neighborhoods, out of a total population of 724,000, the majority Jewish.

God help us all. America is giving

God’s property to the future Antichrist

kingdom.


121 Responses to “The Rape of Jerusalem”

  1. Hi Marianne,

    Obamination is still not proven an eligible american citizen as you probably know – he seems to be a Muslim according to this actions and previous!

    -he attended muslim school and was raised as muslim
    -he cited the islamic prayer and said “it is the prettiest sound on earth”
    -he made in an interview a Freudian Slip (“My muslim faith”)
    etc, i surely forgot something

    His Name means in hebrew “Lightning which fell from heaven” !

    (http://www.zimbio.com/Christian+Life/articles/547/Is+Barack+Obama+SATAN)

    In Luke 10:18 Jesus states,
    “I beheld Satan as Lightning fall from Heaven.”
    So in hebrew is this “Satan Barak o Bama”

    Jehoshaphat means “Jehovah is the judge” (wikipedia)
    This is awesome.
    Maybe you can add a map where the location is shown?

    Silvan (with ‘V’) 🙂

    • Hi Silvan,

      The Valley of Jehoshaphat is outside Jerusalem. This is the name given in modern times to the valley between Jerusalem and the mount of Olives, and the Kidron flows through it. It is on the east side of the old city, aside the temple mount.

      barak is supposed to be blessing in arabic….

      beraka..is blessing in hebrew……..

      barak, however, is lightning in hebrew….so you are right…

  2. I just looked it up, Baraq means “lightning”

    Strong’s Number: 01300
    Original Word Word Origin
    qrb from (01299)
    Transliterated Word
    Baraq
    Phonetic Spelling
    baw-rawk’ Noun Masculine
    Definition

    1. lightning
    1. lightnings, lightning flashes
    2. of flashing arrow-head (fig.)

    King James Word Usage – Total: 21
    lightning 14, glittering 4, bright 1, glitter 1, glittering sword 1

    • Well I think there are a lot of numerologists here. Obama and all the governments of the world are within satan´s plan. Or Do you all believe that there will be a President in modern times who belongs to God´s will?
      It will grow worst and worst. Don´t you support any government or political issues. Respect as the bible says , but do not join in their decisions. Read more the bible. All decisions will be to bad things from now. Some will be for short , others to long time, but all for destruction of God´s word.

  3. Yes 🙂
    Isnt that awsome?
    Remember he CHANGED his name from Barry Soetoro
    to this new meaning! What purpose he had in mind ??

    And the ARABS think probably that he is a BLESSING,
    what a coincidence and fulfilling!

  4. Hi Marianne,

    Today Israel is staging the biggest ever war drill nick named Turning Point 3,
    Here is a link to the story:
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/31/israel.drill/index.html?eref=rss_topstories
    You ask if America will be responsible for the battle of Armageddon…
    It is planned that way!
    They do not Fear God!

    A long time ago I received word of a person who had a vision of what is to come.
    So terrible was the sight when God steps in, that even to this day this person trembles when re-counting the vision!

    People don’t get it!
    But soon they will … to their own destruction.

    • hi abigail

      what did the vision say?

      • The heavens were on fire and rolling. The heavens opened up and there was seen pillars, LARGE PILLARS (makes the war ships look like a toy in the bathtub) These pillars were falling to the earth thrown by the Almighty Hand of The Lord. This occurred shortly after the industry of the vehicles were flattened and the economy was at its end.

        The vision was seen back in the early 80’s. I’ll try to reach the person in question and I’ll ask for a written account if possible.

        Strange …. because we just spoke of this last week, again.

        One thing for sure the fire in the heavens was from the Hand of God and not by ‘puny weapons of man.”

      • I have the written account of this mighty vision.
        What do you want me to do with it??
        It is long enough …

  5. BO codename by the CIA or FBI is “Renegade” = man of lawlessness!
    The codename for his limousine is “The Beast” !

    Matthew 24:27
    For as the lightning comeht out of the east and shineth unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    Barak (the lightning) comes from east (Kenya) and shineth unto the USA.

    • Dear Silvan ,

      Matthew 24: 27 refers to the second coming of The Lord.
      Barak is not The Lord.
      Just thought I’d clarify this.

      • Hi Abigail, yes sure, i didnt say that the US-President who named himself as “The Lightning from Heaven” is the Lord.

        That verse has nothing to do with BO, i agree.
        It was just a thought-play with his name and prophecy how the second coming will be.

        • Satan fell like lightening. He fell!
          I know you were not saying that BO was the lord.
          Barak is just a man and a puppet at that.
          In the grand scheme of it all, he just speaks what he is told to say.
          There are powers that put him in office and there are powers that
          educated him and there are powers that will keep him in office to accomplish what is in the cards. (so to speak)

          Maybe his middle name says more than his first or his last.

  6. Hi Marianne,

    The picture you have on top of your post … isn’t it depicting romans with ‘the spoils’
    of The Temple of Jerusalem??

    • HI Abigail.

      Yes, that is the idea. The Romans raped Jerusalem once before, and now it is happening again. The vatican ended up with the spoils, and kept them for centuries…

  7. Hi Marianne,

    I know the Vatican have the treasures of the Temple. They keep them in the basement.
    And yes they raped Jerusalem and killed and murdered and burned and tortured and etc. and then paraded some prisoners back to Rome… to the coliseum for a final show.
    The picture is of a carving on the Arch of Titus in Rome.
    MENORAH (ARCH OF TITUS, Rome)
    *The Arch of Titus provides the only contemporary depiction of sacred articles from the Temple in Jerusalem. The menorah and trumpets are clearly depicted, as well as what might be the Table of Showbread.

    Due to the depiction of the destruction of Jerusalem and the desecration of the Temple, many Jews refuse to walk underneath the arch to this very day. A notable exception occurred in 1948 at the founding of Israel, when a large contingent from the Roman Jewish community walked through the arch in the opposite direction from the original Ancient Roman triumphal march.

    The Arch of Titus is a Pentelic marble triumphal arch with a single arched opening, located on the Via Sacra just to the south-east of the Forum in Rome. It was constructed by the emperor Domitian shortly after the death of his older brother Titus (born AD 41, emperor 79-81), commemorating the capture and sack of Jerusalem in 70, which effectively terminated the Jewish War begun in 66 (although the Romans did not achieve complete victory until the fall of Masada in 73

    And Rome still rules the world. Two Rabbis went to Rome just prior to Ratzingers’
    trip to Israel to ‘beg’ one more time for the return of ‘the Treasuries of The Temple’ to Jerusalem, which the Vatican have in its possession. It was refused!

  8. p.s.

    On the opposite side of the carving of the Menorah is another quite interesting carving of the goddess of Rome and of a ‘winged angel’ riding behind Titus and crowning him ‘god’.
    Here is the link for the depiction:


    This scene depicts the actual triumphal procession with the toga-clad Titus in the chariot, but with the addition of allegorical figures–the winged Victory riding in the chariot with Titus who places a wreathe on his head, the goddess leading the horses.

  9. Hi Marianne,

    Did you know that the U.S. is one of the largest Muslim Country on the planet??
    The President of the U.S. says so.
    Here is a link to an interview with a reporter for France dated 2/06/09
    If you listen to the interview and disregard the translation you can hear him clearly say: ‘“Moreover, if we count the number of American Muslims, we see that the United States is one of the largest Muslim country on the planet” …
    http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2009/06/02/01003-20090602ARTFIG00603-les-etats-unis-un-des-plus-grands-pays-musulmans-.php

    • Hi Abigail

      Stupid comment by Obama, isn’t it?

      • Hi Marianne,

        Yes, but maybe fitting before bowing to King Abdullah, like he did in his last encounter.
        Wonder how American Christians and Western Christians in general feel about such comments?
        Wonder how many Christians are left around?

        Wonder how Israel feels about a Muslim ‘protector’?
        Wonder how long before Shariah Law?
        Wonder how women will feel under that type of law, no more voting rights?
        Too many questions and no real answers.
        The President of the United States has spoken
        and ‘yes we can’ be proud of our Muslim Country!

        • Good evening, hi, i read this yesterday on world net daily, and i was shocked but not surprised.
          O says this, though he must know that the USA is only at the 40. place and not one of the largest countries in world.

          How does this fit into prophecy?
          And how in the plans by the illuminated Elite to create a one-world-religion under the Pope and then destroyed by the old-luciferian-religion New-Age (of Aquarius) under the false Messiah Maitreya and the U.N./BIS/World Court?

          Does someone has an idea?

          http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=100019

          This was very high-interesting:

          COMPLETE SEMINAR NOTES FROM HOUSE OF THEOSOPHY SEMINAR WHICH REVEALS PLANS FOR LAST STAGES OF NEW WORLD ORDER!!
          http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1052.html

          Another big question for me is at moment, why the leaders of the tribe Judah have taken an old occult symbol for their flag, which was and is commonly being used by occult dark forces?
          As far as i know, the hexagram was used also by Anselm Bauer (Rothschild) and King Solomon in his wicked times, and many more.

          Dont be angry, iam just searching for the whole truth and iam not against Judah! Israel is not the state Israel.
          Remember we are living in times of the ultimate deception.
          Maybe it is just like in many other biblical accounts: Judah is mainly disobidient and will be judged somehow, though they will not loose their
          land!

          Righteous people have been few since ever.

          On the other hand i read from such a jewish minority, that scripture would not allow to go back into their holy land until the messiah comes!

          Whats the truth? Think outside your prejudices.

          • Hi Silvan

            Since time began, man has always used symbols. Obviously, evil people have used them too. Some symbols are universal and really precede occult use….there are general geometric shapes….circle, square, line, triangle, etc…..these are taken from nature, as nature demonstrates these shapes.

            Other signs like stars, sunbursts, come also from creation….so, in the beginning, these shapes only had positive meanings…

            what is problematic is that once occult people grab these symbols for their own use, that now, others feel that if they continue to use these symbols, that now they are evil too.

            The point is that all these signs and symbols were good, and got corrupted.

            But evil people do not have a monopoly on God’s creation.

            In fact, they are using what God provided illegally.

            The primary use of symbols is to exalt God. The corrupted use is to glorify the devil.

            So, do the righteous submit to the occult, give in, and relinquish their God given rights to the symbols?

            I would say no……

            So the Jewish symbol is a star, something created by God, not the devil. Do they abandon all religious symbolism and turn it over to the devil?

            I would say no again….

            What we have to do now is recognize that first, ALL symbols of creation are holy, and from God.

            We then have to realize that we are in a battle for the continued use of those holy items, and the continued positive meanings behind them.

            Remember, the devil owns nothing on earth. He lost his authority at Calvary.

            • The divine symbol of Judah is the Menorah!
              The six-pointed star has EVER been used for practicing the evil.

              How do you know for sure that the current leaders of Judah are righteous?

              The new-age influenced and occult U.N. played a big role in founding Israel.

              To obey G-d and his Torah is not popular in Israel.

              • Hi Silvan

                God is allowed to have all the symbols he wishes…that includes stars, since he created them.

                Have you ever been to Israel?

                • Is Israel God ?

                  Its a state and not gods kingdom!

                  Its ruled by man, and iam not sure, if they are righteous.

                  No, i wasnt in Israel, do the majority people follow Torah?
                  Note America is a chrisitan country, but the majority doesnt follow Jesus (anymore). It will be judged, like the rest of the world for the wickedness.
                  You think, it will be else for Judah??

                  • HiSilvan

                    Over 8% of Israeli Jews define themselves as haredim (or Ultra-Orthodox); an additional 9% are “religious” (predominantly orthodox, also known in Israel as: Zionist-religious, national-religious and kippot srugot); 12% consider themselves “religious-traditionalists” (mostly adhering to Jewish Halakha); 27% are “non-religious traditionalists” (only partly respecting the Jewish Halakha), and 43% are “secular”. Among the seculars, 53% say they believe in God. Since this is more than half of the seculars, this comes out to only about 25% who do not believe in God or Torah.

                    I have been to Israel several times. Overall, it is a more religiously observant country than the USA. Even the army obeys Shabbat, and prays in the morning.

                    • “Remember, the devil owns nothing on earth. He lost his authority at Calvary.”
                      Hi Marianne,
                      yes he lost his authority over the follower of Yashua/Jesus, who are in him, coverred.
                      But we are just few.
                      Please note once again the meaning of the ULTIMATE deception – NOTHING is like it seems, and we are yet not able to see and grasp it fully. Please take it just in consideration that also Judahs politicians are not what they seem to be.
                      Ezekiel 8 indicates that they are not “better” than the rest of the politicians of the other tribes today.

  10. Hi Silvan,

    If you read Ezek.8:1-18 and Ezek.11:1-13, you will find that God has declared, that the “abominations ” that the “house of Israel” and “House of Judah” will be guilty of in the latter days, is “Baal worship”, (the Zionist controlled masonic Lodge) and “witch craft” . God says that He will ‘judge them”,(Israel)
    in their borders.
    The “six pointed star” is a Satanic Symbol, and NEVER represented the “Sar of David” . It has since antiquity been called the “seal of Solomon”, as He was heavily involved in “witchcraft”.
    Contrary to Marianne’s explanation, God never uses “Satanic Symbols” and He commanded Israel to Not make “Any Graven Images”. (of the planets or stars).
    Judah has but one symbol that God recognizes, and that is it’s “ensign” or flag, (Numbers. 2) which is a Lion.
    Check out this link, (ftp.the7thfire.com/politics%20and%20history/illuminati_origin.htm ) and you will learn how that the “Zionist Jews” under the guidance and “leadership” of Amschel Meyer (Daddy Rothschild, a ‘Dan-ite’) together with other prominent Jewish banksters, set up several ‘governing bodies’ such as the Illuminati,(with Adam Weishaupt) the Luciferians and much later the bilderbergers, Lucis society, league of Nations,(Later to become the U.N., and built on Rockefeller donated Property in N.Y.) the (Illegal) Federal Reserve, the International Monetary fund, etc etc., and now these Jewish “Robber Barons” control the world, through owning all “central banks” (that create money out of Nothing) all over the world.
    It is these “Zionists” who control the Media of the entire world, who have manipulated the American public to vote for an “Illegal Imigrant” (Barak Obama) to become President of the United States.(illegally)
    And since these “Zionists” control the U.S. Supreme Court, guess what, our U.S Supreme Court duly and unconstitutionally “Refuses” to hear the cases presented, that ask Barak Obama, to reveal his actual “Birth certificate”.
    It is through the “manipulation” of these “Jewish Zionists”, who hate Christianity , and Jesus Christ, that final tribulation will be brought upon all mankind, until Jesus comes Back and destroys “two thirds” of them, and saves “one third” as through fire.
    Anothe great site to learn about the atrocities of these despicable “Zionists” is Jeff Rense’s site. Just type in his name
    on a search engine, and it will take you there. Also you can look up Texe Marrs’s “power of Prophecy”, which will give you great insight.

    Morgan Sorensen

    • HI Morgan

      I would say that all symbols of creation belong to God, not Satan. Satan created nothing except trouble.

      All the Zionists I know voted against Obama.

      Which Supreme court judges are Jewish?

      • Hi Marianne,
        the important issue is: are the leaders righteous, and not the little Zionists or Jews.

        I know through my studying 100% the same what Morgan said.
        There is enough evidence to consider.
        It just takes much time to do indepth study on history and recent events.
        What we learn in school about history and the real powers is corrupted and unimportant.

        Our God doesnt use symbols which are used by Satanists, witches and wicked man throughout history.

        The IMPORTANT question is, why do they use it??
        It seems to have negative powers and meanings, right?!
        You know about the REALITY of the spiritual dimension!

        SIX-pointed star…SIX not SEVEN…!
        (and so on…)

    • Hi Morgan, thanks for confirming.
      I read that the “Illuminati”-Jews are not from the tribe of Judah, but Khazars or Chassidim.
      I did not have the time to go deep enough into this specific issue.
      You say they are from the tribe of Dan.
      Can you send me a source?

      Does Ezekiel 8 mean the latter days, “midnight”?
      “Thammuz” is good for beginning research about babylonian occult worship.
      Mythology is in my eyes essential for true understanding certain latter day scriptures and the things happening now.

      Silvan

      • Morgan and Silvan,

        Morgan’s interpretation of Ezech 8 is wrong. This has nothing to do with the last days. This event was occurring at the time of Ezechiel.

        The sin was described in Chapter 8. Its judgment is described in chapter 12, 13 as they are taken into Babylonian captivity.

        Its restoration is described in 36, 37. Once it is restored, the battle of gog and magog occurs at some point. After that battle, the new third temple is described with a new city Jerusalem.

        Chassidim comes from a word that means mercy, and describes the very observant orthodox Jews.

      • Silvan

        Ezech 8 describes ancient history, not the present. Zech 12 describes Judah in the last days, about how all nations will come against Jerusalem, and the governors of Judah will be like a (holy) fire, and they will defeat their enemies.

        The Lord will save the tents of Judah, and he will defend them, as they have been brought back with a new heart ( other scritpures).

        It describes the Jews having the spirit of grace and supplication on them. So you see, the Jews who have returned are not snake worshipers, but true to God.

        • Thank you Marianne for that Zech 12.
          Judah seems to be the only righteous godfearing tribe in the last days.
          But that Familys like Rothschild, Rockefeller and Astor are ruling behind the scenes is nevertheless a fact.
          .
          Awsome is Verse 10:
          and they shall look upon ME whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for HIM,..

          Does God speak in first person and then in 3rd?
          It seems that our beloved Yahweh and Yashua are the same character!

          This is i think the time when our Lord comes again, at the end of the 7 years, and they will recognize him. I think the whole chapter is related to Armageddon – Horses, Meggido, Messiah is seen..
          Who knows what happens in the time before with State Israel? What does scripture say?
          .
          I never said btw that the returned Jews are snakeworshippers. The german ID card has the symbol of Baphomet on the back, the US-Dollar has the Eye of Horus (Satan) on it, yet most people are all NOT babylonian “snakeworshippers”….
          .
          There are powers behind our governements, for which we have no real reponsibility. Yet these people are using symbols for their purposes.
          .
          Is the house of David = Judah?

          • I have to make it more clear:
            “But that Familys like Rothschild, Rockefeller and Astor are ruling behind the scenes IN THE REST OF THE WORLD is nevertheless a fact.”

    • Hi Morgan, the first link doesnt work (password required).
      .
      It came home to me, that history researcher Steve Collins writes that DAN is located in germany today.
      Wouldnt surprise me if Rothschild (german) is indeed from the tribe of DAN.
      Adam Weishaupt was german, bavarian.
      The british Royal Dynastie Astor (Ashtoreth) is german.
      The Roman Empires second or third ‘Reich’ was german.
      The biggest economy and engine of the coming dictatorial E.U. is… germany.

  11. Now that the U.S has a Muslim President, expect a totaly different America in the coming years.
    I wouldn’t live there for all the tea in China anymore.
    Their renaissance period is coming to an end.
    The dark ages are about to descend!

    • Hi Glenn,

      I think China owns the tea, and everything else we have now. I agree with you. It is time to light our lamps, and be sure we have enough oil.

  12. The city of David, Jerusalem belongs to The Lord.

  13. The Lord God is The God of the Living.

    I find these verses of Scriptures amazing and certainly leads one to deep meditation as to The Greatness of The Lord.
    To think that these verses were written after the physical death of King David is mind boggling, We see in these The resurrection and the Tender Mercies of The Lord and hope of Glory.
    Does The Lord love His Prince?? You be the judge.

    Eze 34:23
    And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, [even] my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd.
    Eze 34:24
    And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken [it].
    Eze 37:24
    And David my servant [shall be] king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
    Eze 37:25
    And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, [even] they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David [shall be] their prince for ever.
    Hsa 3:5
    Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.
    Zec 12:8
    In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David [shall be] as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.

  14. Marianne,

    On the contrary, you are the one who is “wrong”, and in complete error concerning Ezek.8, & 11, and your making such “catagorical” statements as you have done in the above post, is not prudent, as an old “Savvy” missionary like me, will “have you for lunch” in a heart beat in any public forum. So my advice to you, is that you refrain from such “catagorical statements” when discussing with an obvious “man of God”, as that is also according to “God’s Order”, as women shall Not teach, nor “usurp authority over the Man”, according to biblical doctrine.

    First of all, let me clarify, that just like the seven letters to the Churches, in Rev.2,& 3, (which, although written to existing Churches in the first century, concerned the “Prophetic application” at the return of Christ, hence Christ’s reference to his return)
    Likewise, Ezek. chpt. 8 & 11, have a prophetic application for the “latter days”, and deals with the “abominations” of todays Zionists and their abominable “Luciferian worship”.
    To prove your error, all we have to do, is go back one chapter, to Ezek.7, and you will discover that almost the whole chapter is “end time” in it’s prediction.
    Particularly, verse 1-9 deals with an “end-time” fulfillment of God’s Wrath upon the houses of Israel and Judah. Verses 10-15 deals with three methods of Judgment, and verses 16-22, deals with the “Jewish remnant” that will be saved, in these “end times”.
    Then Chapter 8 deals with both the literal, and prophetic future fulfillment (in the latter days) of this vision, culminating in verse 18 with the “Tribulation”, and Armageddon.
    The very next chapter, Ezek.9:1-6, deals with the “sealing” of
    the 144,000 “Jewish firstfruits” in Jerusalem, during the Tribulation period,(Rev.7:1-8, and Isa 66:7) Isa 66:8 is only fulfilled at their “resurrection” some time later as per Rev.12:5, and Rev.14:1-5.
    This sealing of the “servants of God” as described in Ezek.9:1-6, takes place during the Tribulation period, as it is of an absolute “end-time” application.
    Ezek 10, describes the vision of Glory, as well as the Cherubim and God’s mode of travel. (which is where the Zionists got the technology for the “flying saucer”, which are manufactured in “area 51” in Nevada, the super secret zionist compound)
    Capter 11, again concerns the “end-times”, and the “Zionists” that control Jerusalem in these Last days. This discusses the same “ancients of the house of Israel”(the elders of Zion) as mentioned in Ezek.8:12. God declares in verses 4-12, that he will kill them and judge them in th “borders of Israel”.(V.11)
    And in verses 14-16, God says he will be a “little sanctuary” to those Jews who remain in their countries where they have been “scattered”, until the Messiah returns.
    In verse 17, God says that “He” will “gather Israel”, and “assemble them”,(and not the Rothschilds since 1948) from the countries they have been scattered.
    In verses 18-20, God says He will give them a “new Heart”, and a “new spirit” within them. (this is Key) as it defines the time element, as per the other prophecies, such as Joel and Zechariah, that pinpoints this to the time of “Jacobs Trouble”, the coming tribulation that will be orchestrated by the Zionist controlled U.N.
    In verse 21, God promises destruction on those Jews, who follow the Zionists in their “Luciferian Worship”.
    Marianne, if you cannot understand this, then I am compelled to question your Christian walk, and indeed your very intellect. As this is at the same time, both elemental, and fundamental to understanding the prophetic scriptures.

    I am pressed for time , and will respond to your questions about Zionism and the Supreme Court, a little later.

    Morgan Sorensen

  15. Marianne,

    To continue my response to your comments/question,in which you stated;
    1.) All symbols belong to God!
    2.) All the of the Zionists you know, voted against Obama! and your question; 3.) Which Supreme court Judges are Jewish ?

    Well, I am not going to speak for God as to what signs or symbols he condones or approves for himself. But it is clear that the “pentagram, and Hexagram” used in Luciferian worship, is not going to be Accepted by God as good. Furthermore, as I have stated, God tells us in his word,(O.T.) not to make any “graven images”, lest we bow down to them. and speciffically the stars and constellations are mentioned. (so that should settle that issue)
    Next, I cannot respond to the voting record of your zionist friends, as I do not know who, or how manny such friends you have, whether it is 10 or 10 million. (in other words, your comment is not objective)
    Next, about the Supreme court Judges, what you need to understand before I give you my answer, is that someone who is socalled defined as “Catholic”, is only defined by “religious affiliation”, not by “ethnicity”.
    So when you read about “Chief Justice” John Roberts jr., as being “Catholic” , that does not do away with his “Jewish roots”

    Assoc. Justice John Paul Stevens Jewish
    ” ” Antonin Scalia presumed Jewish
    ” ” Anthony Kennedy Jewish
    ” ” David H. Souter Jewish
    ” ” Clarencs Thomas African American
    ” ” Ruth Bader Ginsburg Jewish, (and opnely member of CFR.)
    ” ” Steven G. Breyer Jewish
    ” ” Samuel A. Alito jr. presumed Jewish
    ” ” Sandra Day O’Connor (retired) Jewish

    Now in explanation, whether Jewish or not, All these Judges, are beholden to the Zionist agenda. for example; they are secretly members of either the CFR (A Jewish treasonous organization,that has as it’s main goal to “overthrow” the U.S. Constitution, and the United States as we know it, and replace it with a “North American Union”, complete with a new Constitution, and a new worthless “monetary” system) or the trilateral commission.

    But rather than me sitting here and “spoon-feeding” you like a baby, Marianne, why don’t you do the honorable thing, and go do your own research, and go get your own information.
    I will “steer” you to the material, and you go buy the books, lock yourself away for a couple of weeks in a cabin, and read and evaluate the information.( I am not asking you to believe point blank what is presented, but evaluate all of it, and then decide)

    So here we go; Begin with a couple of books by Michael Collins Piper. “The High priests of War”, “Final Judgment” and “The New Jerusalem”
    Then Check out “Rense” dot com. and scroll down the menu page on the Left side, until you get to ;
    “Illuminati Jewish Zionist Bankers Hitler”, read,and continue down
    “Zionists Hate honorable Jews”
    “80% of Jews are Khazars”
    “Zionism and the ‘Racist state’ of Israel” (many collumns)
    “Torah Jews are NOT Zionists”
    “Neturei Karta, orthodox Jews against Zionism”
    “Jews against Zionism Thank Jeff”
    “Zionism and the Jeff Rense program”
    “How Israel controls America”
    “Who owns the majority of the media”
    “Half Vanity Fairs TOP 100 powerbrokers Jewish”
    “Zionist key role in the Holocaust”
    “Is Zionism of God” (pdf)
    “The power of the Rothschilds”
    “10 Questions to Zionists, by Rabbi Michael Dov Weissmandl”
    “Zionism is nobody’s friend”
    “The hidden history of Zionism”
    “Zionism, the real enemy of the Jews” (video)
    “Zionists made a deal with the Devil” (Zechariah. 11)

    Then look up Eustace Mullins, on video.google,dot com and learn about history.
    Then go to “You Tube” and enter; “ZOG USA, Who really controls the United States”

    Then go to “Wingtv” dot com, and look up their many book offerings that pertain to zionism and world control.

    Then Go to “power of prophecy” dot com, and begin with these books;
    “The protocols of the Elders of Zion”
    “The Synagogue of Satan” (By andrew Carrington Hitchcock)
    “Behind Comunism”
    “Bloodlines of the Illuminati”
    “Circle of Intrigue”
    “Project Lucid”
    “Codex Magica”
    Mysterious Monuments”

    Then at the bottom of Texe Marrs’s website, look up books under the heading “conspiracy and secret societies”. for example;
    “Illuminati”
    “Government cover-ups”
    “Judaism”
    “Jewish”
    “Israel”
    “Masonic Lodge”
    “freemasonry” etc.etc.

    I think if you follow through with this, it will give you an education you badly need, so that you can present the TRUTH.

    One question you must ask yourself Marianne, is this, How was it possible in the 2004 election, to have out of ten Presidential candidates, eight candidates that were Jewish, (an ethnic minority of less than 2½ % of the countries 300 plus million people) when supposedly we are to have “Free and Fair” elections ?
    Those candidates were:
    John Kerry (AKA John Kohn) Jewish
    John Edwards Jewish
    Howard Dean Jewish
    Gen. Wesley Clark Jewish
    Dennis Kucinich Jewish
    Joe Lieberman Jewish
    Dick Gephardt Jewish
    Bob Graham Jewish roots
    For example; the liar John Kerry, has been involved in two presidential elections, 2000/2004, and in both he toured the U.S. telling everybody he is an “Irish Catholic”. He might have become a Catholic, but Irish he is Most definitely NOT. His Grandfather was a Bohemian Jew, by the name “Frederich Kohn”, who changed his name when he came to America in 1902/3 to “Fred Kerry”.
    So there is a lot for you to learn, Marianne.

    Morgan Sorensen

    • Morgan,

      There is NOTHING in Ezechiel 8 or 9 that mentions the end times.
      1. Ezechiel does say, in the time of the end, or in the last days, or in the end times
      2. the abominations occur in the temple. – there is no temple in modern Israel
      3. specific names of people of that time are mentioned – like Jaazaniah, son of Shaphan, of the house of Israel. THis person does not live today.

      you are making everyone you do not like Jewish,……if you go back in your own family tree, you might find out that your are Jewish also. The candidates and judges are not all jewish….you are reading bad material written by antisemites with wild imaginations who are willing to lie.

  16. Marianne,

    First you say; there is “Nothing” in Ezechiel 8 or 9 that mentions “end times”. Then you go on to agree that it DOES mention “the end” etc. What’s up, Marianne ?
    I have clearly laid out chapters 7,(which mentions the end several times) in fact, in verses 3 and 4, God discusses that He will “send his Anger” upon Israel, and recompense upon Israel “All” her abominations.
    In the Jewish vernacular, recompensing ‘ALL’ her abominations, is the same as declaring that this cannot happen before “all” her abominations have been committed. (In other words, one cannot half way through the timeperiod of such abominations, recompense “ALL” her abominations, as they have not yet ‘ALL’ been committed) This is Key, as it defines the “time-line”.

    Verse 6 of Chapt.7, declares “The end is come, the end is come: it watcheth for thee; behold, it is come.” (this has an ‘end-time’ application)
    Verse 7 says; “The morning is come unto thee, o thou that dwellest in the land; the time is come, the day of trouble is near….” (this speaks of God’s wrath to come, at Armageddon, and your denying this Truth, does not change this fact one iota)

    Chapter 9:1-6 as already explained, deals with the ‘sealing’ of the 144,000, which happens to occur during the future tribulation, and your denying THAT FACT does not change it one iota either !

    Chapter 11, deffinitely deals with the ‘end-time’ scenario of the wickedness of the Zionists, (as does Chapter 8) and your denying THAT FACT, also changes nothing, but exposes you for the falsehood you promote and stand for.

    Your “third grade” argument, that quote; “the abominations occur in the Temple.-there is no Temple in modern Israel.” (end quote)
    demonstrates your utter ignorance about Bible prophecy, and the “end-times”.

    Let me tell you, that you need to keep your eyes on Jerusalem, as a Temple is going to be built in the very near future, on the Temple mount, after a “stray missile” possibly fired at a U.S war plane, “supposedly misses” the plane, and barrels on to hit the Mosque. As such a missile would have been fired by a Muslim country,(or Muslim operatives) and “al Jazeera TV” would be instructed to give the warning, in the 5-6 minutes before it hit, casualties could be at a minimum, and the Muslims would have to blame themselves for the tradgedy. (no third world war)
    As Israel controls the “old City” of Jerusalem,they would cordon off the area, clean up, and have the “tribulation Temple built in less than a year. WHAT WOULD YOU THEN SAY, MARIANNE ? Would you then change your mind about what Ezechiel is saying ?

    Your argument that specific names are mentioned, such as ‘Jaazaniah’, and ‘Pelatiah’ , and that they are “not alive today” further discredits your “elemental reasoning” on this issue, as in the book of Revelation in Chapter 3 makes mention of both the church of ‘Philadelphia’, and that of ‘Laodicea’, which were written to in the “first century”, and these original churches DO NOT EXIST ANYMORE, Yet, these are prophetic “latter day churches” that will exist at Christ’s return at the second advent.

    You are grossly ignoring the facts I have presented, and falsely accusing me of reading “tainted material”.
    That is a Lie, Marianne! And I challenge you to try to discredit any of these writers if you can. Go ahead Try !
    These people are not “anti-semitic” at all, they are risking everything, to warn people about the dangers of Zionism
    Personally, I have many Jewish friends, and I Love the Jewish people. But I “hate” the Zionist’s murderous Ideology, and the historic trail of blood and deceit they have laid in the past 300 years.

    The supreme court judges, that I have presented as Jewish, and the 2004 presidential candidates I have presented as Jewish, are correctly so portrayed, and your denying it, also CHANGES NOTHING about THIS FACT, other than to prove how COMPROMISED YOU ARE concerning THE TRUTH ! ! !

    Open your eyes Marianne ! You are the one deceived here, and if you refuse to read and examine the material I have suggested to you, then I shall just withdraw from this forum, as I cannot be part of this compromise and deception.

    Lk.21:35, “For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.”

    Morgan Sorensen

    • Morgan,

      I mistyped…apology….I should have said this…..

      There is NOTHING in Ezechiel 8 or 9 that mentions the end times.

      1. Ezechiel does NOT say, in the time of the end, or in the last days, or in the end times

      However, it was the “end” of Israel at that time….Ezechiel was taken into captivity along with the other Jews. He was a contemporary of Jeremiah, who prophesied the “end” of Israel for that time as well. The abominations of Israel were not repented of, and so God sent in the Babylonians to punish them.

  17. Is this guy for REAL??

  18. Abigail,

    Obama has been “illegaly” voted into office as the President of the United States, by the “Zionist powerbrokers” who control the world Banking Cartel, and the world media.
    So Don’t be Upset girl, it’s “your crowd” that has gotten an “Illegal Imigrant”, who was born in Mombassa, Kenya, unconstitutionally ellected, and into the White House.
    And those Zionists are manipulating the debauched Supreme Court, to deny any Hearing on Obama’s Birth certificate.
    So, don’t worry, be happy.

    Morgan Sorensen

    • Obama was voted in by mostly atheists and blacks.

      • Hi Marianne,

        Psa 121:4
        Behold, he that keepeth Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep.
        The LORD [is] thy keeper: the LORD [is] thy shade upon thy right hand.

        No matter what the world may say, him that trusts in The Lord shall not be dismayed.

      • Yes Marianne,

        All the blacks voted for Obama,(18% of the population) and all atheists voted for Obama.(10% of the population) So, Obama won the Presidency on aprox 28% of the vote, and the moon is made of blue cheese.
        And of course the Zionist controled media had nothing to do with the outcome, and their shutting out Ron Paul, is but a myth. Did I mention the Moon is made of Blue Cheese….? Dream on lady…..

        Morgan

        • morgan

          there are more atheists around than you think……

          since you like statistics……jews make up less than 1% of the voters

  19. Mr.Sorensen,
    You are no doubt a very learned man. But arn’t you
    slightly of track here ? Correct me if I am wrong, but are we not
    to dilligently study “The Word” in order to bring all kinds to an accurate knowledge of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ in a
    spirit of love and kindness, and not merely to satisfy our vain
    intellectual cravings masquerading as biblical scholarship ?

  20. Shout unto The Lord!
    And dance like David danced!

  21. Good evening.
    I say to everyone here, again:

    “ISRAEL” IN THE BIBLE IS NOT THE STATE ISRAEL (=just one tribe of Israel) OF TODAY !

    A short excerpt from Steve Collins:

    […]
    God reiterated the Abrahamic blessings to Jacob in Genesis 28:10-15 by saying Jacob’s descendants would be as numerous as “the dust of the earth” and they would eventually spread to all four directions of the earth from the ancient region of the Promised Land. In an event of major (but not generally appreciated) significance, Jacob’s name was later changed to “Israel” (Genesis 32:28), and he fathered the 12 sons who became the namesakes of the “12 tribes of Israel.” These sons were birthed from four different mothers (see Genesis 29-30, 35:18), so their divergent DNA pools ensure that their descendants would form nations with different characteristics and temperaments.

    A Prophesied “Nation and Company of Nations”:

    Blessings given to Joseph’s Children
    When Israel died, he passed on the birthright blessings to the descendants of his favorite son, Joseph, who was the eldest son of Israel’s favorite wife, Rachel. However, since Joseph already had two sons at the time Israel bequeathed his blessings, Israel gave these blessings jointly to the two sons of Joseph, who were named Ephraim and Manasseh. Israel gave prophetic blessings or statements about not only Ephraim and Manasseh, but about all of his 12 sons which were to be fulfilled in a time called “the latter days.” This blessing ceremony for the sons of Israel has two phases and is recorded in Genesis 48-49.
    .
    In the first phase of this ceremony described in Genesis 48:8-22, the “birthright” blessings (which included national greatness, large populations, controlling key “gates” of their enemies, etc.) were given to Ephraim and Manasseh in a private ceremony attended only by Israel, Ephraim, Manasseh and Joseph. The second phase of this ceremony is described in Genesis 49 where all of Israel’s 12 sons were present and blessed by Israel. Genesis 49:1 states that all the blessings conveyed in these ceremonies would be fulfilled in “the latter days.” Those familiar with Bible prophecy understand that our modern times are the “latter days” of biblical prophecy. Those unfamiliar with this topic are referred to my article, Are We Living in the Biblical Latter Days?, available at http://www.stevenmcollins.com.

    […]

    I urge you all to read this!
    It is really a MUST READ
    !

    http://stevenmcollins.com/html/usa_in_prophecy.html

    .
    .
    @ Marianne, hi,
    did you research about which powerful men are behind the
    New World Order?
    Who do you think is this, who has the power and has worked behind the scenes for long to usher the world into a already existent fascistic (private-corp-controlled) police state, installing world organisations to control the globe and bringing up the False Messiah?

    Iam really curious about what you have learned 🙂

    PS Please read Zech. 13.

    • Hi Silvan,

      having to look at the new world order is a separate task. there are several groups which want world control. It will be ac competition.

      The steve collins opinion may or may not be completely right. TO me america has to fall, leaving Israel alone with its God in the final hour before Jesus returns.

      If ezechiel 38 is applied to the USA, then Russia will attack us, and be supernaturally defeated by God. This will make us stronger than ever, and still able to partner with Israel.

      ISrael is MORE than Ephraim and Manassah. It is all tribes besides Judah. Scripture says that Israel and Judah will be untied as two sticks become one in the last days, so if one gets attacked, the other one does too.

      • Hi Marianne,
        Jesus said in Matt 12

        24But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

        25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

        26And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand? ”

        Cp also Lk11,17 and Mark 3, 24-25

        This indicates the oneness of the dark forces.
        I dont think there is a competition. Between whom?
        Satan is the leader, there is no other leader who could or would dispute with him.

        REQUIRED for ruling the world is that all evil powers work for the same goal.
        You will surely not find any scripture which theys in the latter days are competing Antichrists! Quite the converse.
        .
        My sister, i would still love to hear from you your opinion, who are Satans minions today who are powerful and wealthy enough to create global structures etc. and prepare the way for global ruling of the (one and only) false Messiah.
        The Illuminati families doesnt consist mainly of “jewish” families, there are other tribes too involved.
        Maybe they are even not Israelites but serpents seed, Nephilim, or satanic bloodlines. Who knows. However, the tangible powerful dynasties behind the governments, global institutions and the (central)-banking system are the Rothschild and Rockefellers (anglo-american).

        Just basic research would reveal that.
        .
        .
        Regarding Israel, God is very clear in the Bible who is Israel, and you said right, NOT JUST Ephraim and Manasseh. Steven Collins doesnt even say this.
        Israel is the “western” world, including Australia.
        .
        Israel and Judah will stick together. Yes, they do.
        I believe, scripture makes it clear that the war between Russia (and allies) and us will be on HORSES. Due to an EMP-Attack which will fry all electronic devices, America will likely not be able to fight at Jerusalem with Judah.
        .
        .
        Regarding the righteousness of Judah:
        Zech 13:
        1In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

        2And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land. …
        7Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

        8And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

        9And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
        .
        .
        They have idols and 2/3 will be CUT OFF…
        Very clear, innit?
        I really hope you open your mind to this new input.
        Please reconsider and you will see, that your fulsome love for the State Israel is a little bit TOO much and makes you obviously a littlebit blind for some prophecied things. The tribe Judah is not the biblical Israel.

        • Hi Silvan

          If evil people are that united, we would not be having wars between evil or corrupt countries right now. Satan is not that united at this time. His unity is achieved by conquest, threats, and brainwashing.

          Zech 13 refers to Jerusalem. Who owns 2/3 of Jerusalem?
          Look here:
          https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/jerusalem-will-be-divided-under-2-governments/

          more than 2/3 of Jerusalem is NOT Jewish. The Jews are less than 1/4, maybe 1/5 of the area.

          The NON – Jewish area is the part that will be cut off.

          Muslims with their mosque, and mostly Catholics and Armenians. Muslims will be defeated and killed, and Christians will be either raptured, or killed in the tribulation.

          In the “american” ezechiel war, assuming that it represents Israel, it is predicted that we would WIN the war, according to scripture. So we will still be around to defend Judah.

          I do see some logic, but for different reasons, that America would be invaded by Russia. About 1/2 of the world’s Jews live here, and “Israel” is wherever the Jews are. Israel is really a nation of people, not necessarily a geographical area.

          For the Ezechiel war, I would still expect to see an attack in the middle east.

          In Zech 12, the attack is against Jerusalem, not a distant country.

          • Who is the House of David?
            .
            One post you say, “Israel is not just Ephraim and Manasseh” (which is NOT Judah) and the other post you say Israel is everywhere where Jews are. That is contradicting.
            .
            Ezekiel 38 is the last war, when the Messiah comes, or not? I think the fight against the tribes of Israel (USA etc) and Judah are in the same period of time, so it “doesnt matter” who wins, because Jesus comes.
            Where does scripture say, that Israel fights in Jerusalem together with Judah?
            .
            Its so sad for me that you are not willing to invest time in researching the NWO, shadow-government, the private FED, 9/11, Jesuits, Freemasonry, etc…. you would understand that the Illuminati, led by Rothschild and Rockefeller and the Jesuits, are so powerful and real, and behind most wars, events, secret organizations today and the last nearly 200+ years. 9/11 was an falseflag attack, Marianne, like it has been often in history.
            When you do not your research and open your eyes, you just cant see the TONS of evidence that is already here. Its NO conspiracy theorie anymore!
            I will just give up to write with you about many topics (not about all), if you are not willing to educate yourself in this things. Its just too SAD for me and wasted time, because i know what i know and iam more than 100% sure about it. Just sad..
            Get on http://www.infowars.com for example and watch the Docus. Alex Jones is a confessing brother of us, and a real hero in the Truth Movement.
            If you dont want, it would nearly berak my heart.
            The cuttingedge ministry is also very informative.
            PLEASE Marianne!
            Bye

            • Silvan,

              I have over 100 emails a day…and each one takes time…..I cannot cover both politics and religion…that is too much to do…I am already overwhelmed with just biblical discussions.

              There is a lot of work behind the scenes that you do not see me do. I put in 80 hours a week just on the biblical topics. I cannot handle the workload that would come with a political category. I know the Illuminati exist, but I have not the time to correctly identify who is who.

              The term Israel does not just belong to the “Non-Judah” tribes. It is used many times to refer to ALL 12 tribes.

              I think calling the 911 attack a false flag attack is slander. and the only “proof” is contrived and deliberate, to tear this nation apart.

              We have enemies in government that, yes, wish to destroy this nation, and join the NWO, but the Bush administration did not deliberately instigate 911.

              The godless, atheistic democratic party that is in power now started this rumor to destroy their political opponents, to win the next election in 2008, and the slanderous poison went around the world.

              It was also an attempt to discredit Christians in public office. They were successful. Being a Christian is now considered a “right wing terrorist.” and a candidate for either the detention camps, or just elimination.

              To pay for this treachery, God will come against this godless group in judgment. Many are going to die here. Almost half in the near future, as people in the last election sold their greedy, hateful souls to the godless haters, to see if they could wipe out Christianity in America.

              • I can see, you did not view the facts and evidence about 9/11.
                And you have admitted this the sentence just before, that you dont have the time to.
                Nevertheless you think to know the truth.
                Weird.
                .
                All parties are at the top controlled through the CFR.
                All presidents, be it Bush, be it Obama are family related.
                You dont see how much it takes on interconnected relations and power for long times to form the shape of the world we have now and in the future one-world-government. Thats just naive. (Sorry!)
                You are in fact denying the reality of conspiracy, but they are existing on the global scale since some long time now, which is just NECESSARY for the world governance.
                Just look at what 9/11 has brought for possibilities for the shadow-government. Without 9/11 we wouldnt have police states now and no dictatorial states soon and much more.

                • Silvan

                  “facts” presented to us may be lies. Unless I have a lot of time to pursue it, I will not automatically swallow every “fact” that comes along. The internet is full of lies right now.

                  We have had dictators for centuries – long before 911.

                  WHile I think some things are true about the NWO, it is the “everything is jewish and the fault of the jews” opinion that makes me suspicious.

                  Most people in the world are not jewish.

                  and most people in world leadership are not jewish….

                  and most likely, most of the Illuminati are not jewish either.

                  • I DO NOT SAY ITS A JEWISH CONSPIRACY !!!
                    .
                    You dont read carefully, i said two hours ago, i believe the Illuminati are NOT mainly jewish!
                    .
                    Invest time into the case of 9/11!
                    .
                    RIGHT we had dictators before 9/11 –
                    G U E S S WHAT DICTATOR HITLER DID ????
                    A FALSE FLAG ATTACK!
                    .
                    YES, i agree, the internet is full of lies, BUT the evidence which is presented in the case of 9/11 is easily identifiable as NO LIES, but TRUTH, you WILL SEE
                    !
                    IF YOU WOULD JUST
                    L O O K
                    AT IT !
                    HOW do you really want to know if it really is the truth or lie if you have
                    NOT L O O K E D at it carefully!?
                    Put your emotional barriers away and your prejudices over board.
                    Question everything what you have heard from the controlled media.
                    The great deception has thrown its shadows already, dear Sister Marianne!
                    Our Lord may guide you to the truth.
                    “If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. ”

                    My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.
                    http://www.infowars.com

                    • Silvan,

                      Stop getting mad at me. I love you like a brother.

                      I know enough about the NWO to know it is real.

                      What do you want me to do about it?

                    • Silvan

                      my apologies, about the Jewish conspiracy behind the NWO.

                      I got your argument mixed up with Morgan’s.

                    • Iam just very concerned that you could fall for governmental and media lies. The next falseflag will come, if it be the pandemie or dirty bombs or sth. else with which the shadow-governments are able to declare Martial Law and get America and the EU into dictatorship. 9/11 brought us into the situation we are in now, on the edge to dictatorship through the Patriot Acts, Cybersecurity Act, MIAC-Report, and many more.
                      Please dont take on any account the vaccines, even if they are mandatory. They are produced at the moment by Baxter Inc., who shipped bird-flu contaminated vaccines around the globe! It was intentional. This Pandemic is PERFECT for the Elite, in timing shortly before the financial system collapses completely, and for making profit with medis, and for fulfilling their plans for reducing population. Also for restricting constitutional rights as freedom of movement etc.
                      I know that the Illuminati are giving hints in Movies or TV. 9/11 was e.g. in the Lone Gunmen to see before, or in the Illuminati Card Game! NOW there is “Operation Blackjack” at the Telegraph, an offensive and disgusting picture-story, which shows dirty bombs exploding in London, NY, et.al., on June 22nd. It pictures the attack as a falseflag attack. Than Martial Law, detention camps, and the emerging of the Northamerican Union and the Amero is shown. Obama is also depicted. That is not fictional, i can somehow feel it. June 22nd.. Remember the speak from Biden, that Obama will be tested by a huge crisis within 6 months? “Mark my words, mark my words” he said. Further, i believe that the Mayans, Incas, and the other ancient civilisations who predicted “the end” (due to a Star) for Dec. 2012, are right. They had much high-knowledge from the fallen angels (Gen. 6 / Book of Enoch), “Quetzi” for example 😉
                      So, we know for sure, that 3,5 years back from 12/21/12 is …JUNE 22nd 2009.
                      And 3,5 years AFTER 12/12 is the tetrad on feastdays, which occured in history just on most important events for Israel and Judah.
                      I hope the rapture is real. If, than our Lord Jesus comes in a FEW DAYS!!
                      Your brother,
                      Silvan

                      PS: Who is the House of David?
                      PPS: I also have to apologies, because i said, Morgan would be 100% right, i meant everything he said except that he blamed it only on Jews. If Rothshild and the highfinance, one branch of power of the Illuminati, happens to be jewish, it is how it is. Its not antisemitic if one mentions that. (By the way most people today are descendants from Sem, Noahs son.)
                      Its not impossible, that the satanistic NWO-Elite/Illuminati are direct descendents of fallen angels/satan, i.e. hybrids. The DNA from the human side would be still there, so they are keeping their tribal identity, which would make them whatsoever to half either saccaeic, jewish, or else.

      • One response to Morgan , i have to say this:
        Hi Morgan,
        even when you are (or you think to be) right in your opinion and cant believe someone rejects your facts, you cant argue with anger or detraction when you really want to follow your and our saviour and god.
        (By the way with that way you cant persuade ANYONE, because the doors to the hearts and minds of your discussionpartners are immediately shut.)
        You are breaking the greatest Law with this behaviour you have shown here.
        Remember, when you dont LOVE your brethren in Christ you are not loving god. You may wanna think more about what love is or more important just FEEL it. It will make you really FREE and happy.

        • Hi Silvan,

          I know a soldier of the United Nations … he is just a soldier, you know the ones who wear the blue helmet … anyways he has worked as an engineer on Mount Hermon for a few years … a while back.
          Some of our discussions can at times be very revealing.

          I tend to agree with you about false flags attacks, but many Nations have used this to their advantages, many times throughout history.
          All is fair, you know in war and in love.
          Now for the NWO it has been in the cards for quite a while.

          Now, as for the head of this monster, which it is, since we are speaking globally, the Vatican is its’ head.
          Do you not know that it is the Vatican who decides everything here on the earth. (it believes it is god)
          The U.N. operates under the Vatican.

          The Vatican has been in existence for many centuries.
          It controls, banks, sciences, histories, religions, governments etc…
          The Vatican is very crafty in its doings.
          And so many believe that this power is good … but it is the last of great empires and so we should know who rules behind this great power.
          It has played the card game for a long time and is the expert on the chess board.

          • Hi Abigail,
            Yes i too believe Rome is the absolute head.
            This “beast” has never ended, yet.
            But will according to scripture, when the Harlot Babylon is destroyed.
            I believe the enlightened Elite are receiving their instructions directly from Rome.

  22. “Do not fret because of evil men or be envious of those who do wrong; for like the grass they will soon wither, like green plants they will soon die away.”

    Psalm 37 vs 1-2

    • Hi White afrikaner

      That is good advice. I think I am too tired of this world to fret or worry. I am planted where I am for a reason, so I will stay and do what God wants me to do.

  23. If anything, the Russian poeple, in particular the Christians have suffered extreme hardships and discrimination at the hands of the communists for nearly 100 years almost destroying the fabric of society and the Holy Orthodox Church. But God has heard and seen the suffering and delivered them from communism. Approxiamately 100 million Christians were murdered in Russia, including the Priests and all professed servants of Christ. In Russia at the moment the Churches are full to beyond capacity every single day and the Prime minister himself is a Christian and supporter of traditional Christian and family values. Only yesterday I was looking at a crumbling statue of lennon amidst the ruins of a failed system. It is no secret that the Bolsheviks were a jewish movement, and that most top party officials were jewish, this however does not entitle Christians to behave in an anti semetic manner. Christ himself was a Jew as too were all the Apostles. I believe that the western mind has been brainwashed to such an extent that every single Russian is looked upon with suspicion and an innate fear, when in fact they should be embraced as brothers and respected as Christians who were prepared to pay the ultimate price for their faith. Communism and its evils have been defeated by the faith and strength of Gods poeple. The west yet has to under go the persecution that Orthodox believers have undergone in Russia. I myself am not Russian, but live there now after leaving my land of birth South Africa which has been over run by a savage nation of Satanic proportions, where murder and rape are the order of the day. I consider myself to be in exile amongst brothers in faith and values. If America is to be attacked it will more than likely be from within herself, or as a direct result of her policies in the world arena where she is in conflict with many nations. Christians in America should not fear the Russian poeple, but rather look to their own countrymen and politians as the source of greatest danger and evil. Remember that Satan is the prince of lies and possesses an intelligence beyond that of human understanding. All we need to concern ourselves with is the law handed down to us by the Holy Apostles from Christ Himself. If we obey these laws and remain faithful then nothing can harm our salvation. We need not concern ourselves with worldly things as these will soon pass away with the inevitable reckoning of death and judgement day. Why are we so immersed in trying to find out when this judgment will be upon us? It is quite simple really. The moment that you are physically dead it is too late for changes and redemption. Now is the time of your judgement, every single living moment is an oportunity to be delivered from evil. Stop looking at the Jews and the Russians or the Muslims with a tree branch in your own eye.

    • Hi White Africaner,

      I agree with you about the Russian people themselves. Americans accept the Russians as friends. Many of them come here on visas to study and work, and sometimes stay on as citizens. It is the government of Russia that has been at odds with America, not the people in general. Remember that not all Russians are Orthodox Christians, and there is an atheistic element there.

      I do not agree with the statement

      Bolsheviks were a jewish movement

      “Jewish Bolshevism” was a slander publication campaign used against the Jewish minority to persecute them as well as the Christians, and blame them for all the social ills in Russia.

      Only 3.7% of the rank-and-file Cheka agents were Jewish at that time. We do not know if they were voluntarily involved or drafted or forced into it. On the eve of the February Revolution, the Bolshevik party had about 10,000 members, of whom only 364 were ethnic Jews.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Bolshevism

      Jews had been a persecuted minority in the Russian Empire. They had endured a form of racial segregation in the Pale of Settlement, as well as sporadic pogroms. In the period from 1881 to 1920, more than two million Jews left Russia.

      Expulsions, deportations, arrests, and beatings became the daily lot of the Jews, not only of their lower class, but even of the middle class and the Jewish intelligentsia. The government of Alexander III waged a campaign of war against its Jewish [citizens]… The Jews were driven and hounded, and emigration appeared to be the only escape from the terrible tyranny of the Romanovs.

  24. Yes the Russian soil is drenched in blood and I agree that there is no denying Jewish suffering at the hands of certain elements. We as Christians are not in a position to judge anyone regardless of what we have been led to believe by the media and so called history books. “Expulsions deportations ect” were a reality for many millions of people besides the Jews and this is something that seems to be continually overlooked whereas the Jewish persecution is shouted from the roof tops. I shall endeavor to better research the Jewish factor regarding communism in Russia. Incidently the Russian royal family was recently cannonised by the Orthodox Church. Interesting conflicting opinions and data that make for a good topic of discussion. (grin)

    • Hi White Afrikaner

      I was just showing some balance. There is so much negative stuff out there now……It is best to question everything.

      I totally support any group who is being persecuted, including the Russians. For a long time, the Jews had no voice either. There is Christian persecution around the world. Someone today reminded me of Orissa, where this goes on daily. Then, there are the Arab countries, and China. The list is long.

  25. Hi Marianne.

    Yes I commend your balanced perspective and have closely followed many of your views and reactions to sometimes hostile and blatantly evil people. This shows a level of self restraint and good example for other Christians. Negativity is one of Satans tools but the darkness that it brings with it only serves to make your light burn brighter.

  26. Hi Marianne.

    Something of interest re the Jewish involvment in the Bolshevik regime in the period 1917-1919:
    Published in a rare French Edition of Mr Wiltons book in Paris 1921 under the title “Les Derniers Jours des Romanoffs”. These points were excluded from the American and British editions of “the last days of the Romanovs” published in 1920. The lists compiled were on the basis of official reports and original documents.
    62 members of the central committee- 5 russians,1 ukrainian,6letts(Latvians),2 germans,1 czech,2 armenians, 3 georgians, 1 Karain (a Jewish sect), and 41 Jews.
    The Extraordinary Commission (Checka or Vechecka) of Moscow: 1 German, 1 Pole, 1 Armenian, 2 Russians, 8 Latvians and 23 Jews.
    The Council of the Poeples Commissars (Soviet goverment): 2 Armenians, 3 Russians and 17 Jews.
    Further data from the soviet press, out of 556 important functionaries of the Bolshevik state including the above mentioned in 1918-1919 there were: 17 Russians, 2 Ukrainians, 11 Armenians, 35 Latvians, 15 Germans, 1 Hungarian, 10 Georgians, 3 Poles, 3 Finns, 1 Czech, 1 Karaim and 457 Jews. The names and details of all of the above members are available and officially documented in the Journal for Historical Review.

    • Hi white afrikaner.

      These are strange numbers, since other sources indicate they were a minority in participation and in the population in general.

      The big question is why were they there, and what was their part?

      It would be hard to imagine these people as ordering the persecution of their own people.

      Also, remember, all these people are dead now.

      No matter what the numbers are, they seem to change from one reference to another..who are the authors, and what is their credibility? I have found modern thinkers who are biased against many groups, and they have outstanding credentials and are celebrated at universities.

      The same was true in Nazi Germany. Great thinkers were killers also. So who and what do we believe?

      For me, we have to judge people on an individual basis. For example, I am an American, but I am the opposite of Obama, and I did not vote for him. However, some could say someday, that all Americans are the same, and assume they are all like Obama. This would be very incorrect.

      From what I know of the Jewish people, they only want peace, and the opportunity to live their lives without terror. This sounds like most of us.

      I guess if we look hard enough, we will also find Catholics, Protestants, Pentecostals, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, Pagans, Luciferans, Witches, etc, in governments, trying to take control and discriminate against others.

    • Hi white afrikaner.

      These are strange numbers, since other sources indicate they were a minority in participation and in the population in general.

      The big question is why were they there, and what was their part?

      It would be hard to imagine these people as ordering the persecution of their own people.

      Also, remember, all these people are dead now.

      No matter what the numbers are, they seem to change from one reference to another..who are the authors, and what is their credibility? I have found modern thinkers who are biased against many groups, and they have outstanding credentials and are celebrated at universities.

      The same was true in Nazi Germany. Great thinkers were killers also. So who and what do we believe?

      For me, we have to judge people on an individual basis. For example, I am an American, but I am the opposite of Obama, and I did not vote for him. However, some could say someday, that all Americans are the same, and assume they are all like Obama. This would be very incorrect.

      From what I know of the Jewish people, they only want peace, and the opportunity to live their lives without terror. This sounds like most of us.

      I guess if we look hard enough, we will also find Catholics, Protestants, Pentecostals, Muslims, Hindus, Atheists, Pagans, Luciferans, Witches, etc, in governments, trying to take control, and discriminate against others.

  27. From a scholarly point of view it serves one well to investigate in great depth all possibilities and view points and then to discern the truth from the fruit of the tree. Conspiracy theories abound and the majority of them are founded upon nothing more than pure conjecture and wild imaginings that are made to fit certain events. I do however believe that 90 percent of the Russians I have spoken to, some of which have experienced first hand the tyranny of communism, have been truthful in their accusations. Just down the road from where I am now sitting an entire monastary of monks and priests was slaughtered one by one after professing their faith. They were forced into barrels that had sharpened spikes driven into them. These barrels with the monks inside were then rolled down the hill. It is a long steep hill and I have walked it a number of times. At the bottom of the hill the next monk was made to clean out the chunks of meat and push his barrel up to the top of the hill. This is just one of many true stories I have uncovered over here. Where there is smoke there is fire. One has to get to the bottom of things without succumbing to mass media propaganda and deceptions. This said I feel it is every Christians duty to remove the blinkers and view everything politicians, the media and big corporations want us to believe with utmost suspicion.

    • Hi White afrikaner

      I agree with you. I hear many criticisms of the Catholic church, but the critics fail to see the martyrdom of many monks, nuns and lay people.

      The Orthodox branch is very conservative, and from my contact with them they seem very devout. I have Russian friends who have told me that their faith is something they keep very private in Russia.

      The torture you mention sheds light on their privacy in devotion. There are most likely more Christians in Russia than we think, because so many are secretive about it, to avoid persecution.

  28. Yes every Christian Doctrine has its virtues and a commonality in Christ. Hopefully we will see Christians united someday. Remember that if you are recieving excessive criticism then you are probably doing something noteworthy. Keep up the good work. Bye for now.

  29. Hi White Afrikaaner,

    Hoe Gaan dit ? en wat maak jy in Rusland jong ? Ek is ‘n Sendeling, in was jaare in Suid Afrika, en my vrou is Suid Afrikaans.

    Your numbers about the Jews in the “bolshevik” comittee’s ,is very correct, as it was a complete “Zionist” operation, and “communism” (really sociallism) was the brain child of Clinton L. Roosevelt,(A Jew) in 1841, and only “accredited” to “Karl Marx”(aka Moses Levy Mordechai) A Jew.
    Amerika is fast asleep, and the Zionist “atrocities” brought about upon South Africa by the Zionists and their IMF, and “Openheimer” control, through the Rothschilds/Rockefellers, will soon be played out here in the U.S., as people refuse to accept the truth about the sinister zionist movement.
    But one of these days, the prophecies of “Siener Van Rensburg” will come to pass, and the South African people will remmember their God, and run the zionist Jews out of South Africa, and take back their rightfull leadership of that precious contry.
    You can contact me by clicking the box below with my name, wich brings up my website,

    Morgan Sorensen

    • Morgan,

      While it may be true that SOME, but not all, Jews have been involved in political schemes, just like EVERYONE else, which means NON- JEWS, it does NOT mean that you can generalize a few into a majority and blame all social ills on the Jews.

      Zionism is from God, not man. It was prophesied that in the last days, the Jews would return to Israel, and that all nations would turn against them.

      Because of this Jesus Himself, would come to defend them at Armageddon.

      If Jesus is willing to defend the Zionists, then you should be more careful with your anti-Semitic speech.

      All those who had fought against Israel, both in speech and action, will be judged by God.

      If you do not want to be judged by God on this anti-Semitism, then you should view things more fairly.

      Roosevelt was a Protestant, not a Jew.

  30. Hi Morgan

    Nice to read some Afrikaans. Makes me homesick. Siener Van Rensburg is a highly respected figure of Afrikaner South African history and he was most certainly a Christian of the true sort. He wasnt the type to mince his words either and called a spade a front end loader. The truth of the matter is that greed for money and power is what fuels most wars and acts of hostility at the hands of so called civilized poeple for example the English during the boer war.The average boer was not interested in the gold of the witwatersrand but felt a strong bond to his trditional way of life which as everyone knows is farming. At the end of the boer war when a 3rd of the boer population had been decimated at the hands of the British, the surviving boers were subjected to terrible poverty similar to that been experienced right now by more than a 3rd of all Afrikaaners in South Africa. The laws in South Africa do not allow a white man to find work even if he is highly skilled. I envisage that within the next 5 years that nearly half of all Afrikaners will be in this predicament. It grieves me beyond expression to see this happening to my people once again. During the National Party era, everyone had access to housing, healthcare, education ect. There was law and order and most blacks and whites lived in harmony within the same country. I grew up with black friends as did most young Afrikaner boys particularly on the farms of South Africa. We had a mutual respect for one another and interacted on certain levels but allowed the other to live his own culture within the framework of the Apartheid system.It worked and was not the demonised evil system that has been portrayed by so many western agitators and left wing communists. I will not say that Apartheid was a flawless system and will not deny that there was alot of social injustice becuase of the segregation laws. However it was a far lesser evil than what is now ravaging through the land. There were sinister motives behind the creation of the new South Africa with the aim to once again secure South African mineral wealth. We only need to look at whose who in the Zoo to see what corporations are benifitting from the mayhem. Our Nuclear technology is now in the hands of the Chinese- during the Apartheid era we supplied Israel with Nuclear assistance. Our diamond fields. Our gold ect are in the hands of unscrupulous vermin that would sell their souls for just a wiff of money. The sad truth is that many of the guilty are in fact Jewish owned corporations and Politicians, however I must stress this and that is that I do not for one minute believe that all Jews are bad or that the Jews involved are in anyway religious. It takes an Athiest with no fear of God to commit such evil regardless of his race. I have personally fought in a war against communism that the world was oblivious as have most South African white men of my generation and have seen first hand how the gradual decay took place once the communists came into power under the guise of democracy. I see this happening again on a much larger scale worldwide and particularly in the West where poeple are gradually been desensitised to what evil is realy staring them right in the face. My wife and I have never and will never allow our kids to watch television for example as this is just one of many desensitising tools used to destroy the fabric of Christian society. If we want to make a difference we must start with our younger generation and educate them in the ways of the world, so that they can see the truth for what it is. However it should not be done in a manner that offends.

    • Hi White afrikaner,

      The situation in South Africa is a tragic one. I have several posts on here about South Africa, the terrible conditions, and the Seiner prophecies.

      WE need to all pray for those that live there and experience such horrible abuse.

      May God be with them all, and protect them from the oppressive society that has taken over.

  31. Marianne,
    what do you think about Netanyahus speech?
    Israeli leader endorses Palestinian state
    Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed a Palestinian state beside Israel for the first time on Sunday, reversing himself under U.S. pressure but attaching conditions such as having no army that the Palestinians swiftly rejected. (June 14)
    http://www.onenewsnow.com/vidPlayer.aspx?videoId=13745

    Treason? He seems to betray Judah.

    • Silvan

      Netanyahu did not betray Judah. The USA betrayed him, and Israel, by twisting his arm, and forcing him into it.

      Giving away land for peace has been America’s idea, not Israel’s

      Israel is just trying to keep us as an ally, But we will betray her in the end.

      • Ok.. does he have no faith in G-d or scriptures?

        .
        Todays headline!
        New York drill for possible nuke war

        Press TV
        Monday, June 15, 2009

        US security authorities have conducted a semi-clandestine nuclear fallout drill in the City of New York in order to be prepared “for the worst.”

        The NYC Police Department (NYPD) in unison with the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) carried out a massive almost-covert anti-nuclear exercise codenamed ‘New York, you have a problem’ in order to gauge the metropolitan promptness in responding to such attacks.

        According to an AP report on Friday, hundreds of NYPD officers and FBI agents participated in the drill that involved the detection of a gamma-ray emitting device concealed in the heart of the urban area.

        The group was also accompanied by an elite corps of federal weapons specialists who, under a US attorney general mandate, found a simulated “nuclear device” and diffused it.

        Commenting on the nature of new threats on the City area including ‘dirty bombs’ and other unconventional explosive devices, head of FBI’s New York office, Joseph Demarest, said, “It’s something we’re very concerned about.”

        Reflecting Demarest’s comments, FBI’s counterterrorism supervisor, Don Always, told reporters, “Hopefully, we’ll never have to do this for real.”

        “But if we do, we have to do it right the first time,” he went on to say.

        Security forces have reportedly tested new hi-tech detection gadgets and other gizmos in the operation.

        New York City authorities have frequently expressed concerns over a sudden occurrence of such attacks capable to claim numerous lives.

        A dirty bomb is an explosive device equipped with nuclear, chemical or biological containers, which could be blown up without having to use sophisticated nuclear detonators.

        The news of the NYC nuclear fallout drill comes in the wake of an assessment last week in which the Missouri Congressman Todd Akin warned of a looming nuclear threat on the US’s West coast cities as adversarial regimes such as North Korea expand their nuclear and rocket launching capabilities.

        The 62-year-old Republican Congressman advised the US administration to seriously consider current nuclear issues threatening US security, which demanded a fortified scheme to tackle the potential issues.

        .
        Now see this..
        http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturepicturegalleries/4315740/Blackjack—Part-2.-A-slideshow-story.html?image=7

        • Silvan

          Prophecy says that there will be a covenant. It does not say it will be Israels fault.

          Israel has had so many covenants that have gotten broken by arabs that they cannot tell one from another now.

          I think Israel is weary of the pressure, and it is not thinking about prophecy, but of survival.

          It is clinging to the USA, as the godless American leaders bully it into submission.

          When America falls, this will be the final reason why.

  32. Washington’s Blog
    Tuesday, June 16, 2009

    The Miami Herald is running a story entitled “Alleged 9/11 mastermind: `I make up stories’ “.

    In the story, the Herald notes:

    Accused al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed complained that interrogators tortured lies out of him…

    ”I make up stories,” Mohammed said …

    In broken English, he described an interrogation in which he was asked the location of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden.

    ”Where is he? I don’t know,” Mohammed said. ‘Then he torture me. Then I said, ‘Yes, he is in this area or this is al Qaeda which I don’t know him.’ I said no, they torture me.”

    This is not new. It has already been documented that Mohammed confessed to crimes which he could not have committed, and that he said that he gave the interrogators a lot of false information – telling them what he thought they wanted to hear – in an attempt to stop the torture.

    The only thing that’s new is that a mainstream American media outlet is covering the story.
    ___________________________________________

    Corporate news giant imitates Communist China, Soviet Union and North Korea, blocks dissenting voices to promote Obama health care agenda

    State Run News: ABC Turns Programming Over To Government

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    Monday, June 16, 2009

    Completely dispensing with any notion of independence or impartiality, ABC News is set to mimic the likes of Communist China and North Korea by completely turning its news coverage over to the government and excluding any dissenting opinions to promote President Obama’s health care agenda.

    The night of Wednesday June 24th will officially herald the open commencement of state run news, imitating similar systems in historical dictatorships such as the Soviet Union, where Pravda was the official propaganda organ of the Central Committee of the Communist Party from 1912 to 1991.

    In China, the vast majority of news outlets are completely owned and controlled by the Communist Party. Negative viewpoints about government policy are blocked and news developments that could reflect badly on China are ignored and censored. An almost identical system of media also exists in Stalinist North Korea.

    Still, at least the Chinese and the North Koreans don’t try to hide the fact that the press is state run, unlike ABC News, owned by the corporate giant Walt Disney Company, which masquerades as an independent news outlet yet in little over a week will completely turn over its news coverage to act as enthusiastic propagandist for the government’s health care “reform” program.

    The coverage will be in addition to ABC News’ regular programming, which is already vehemently pushing the government’s agenda on this issue.

    “On the night of June 24, the media and government become one, when ABC turns its programming over to President Obama and White House officials to push government run health care — a move that has ignited an ethical firestorm!,” according to the Drudge Report.

    “ABCNEWS anchor Charlie Gibson will deliver WORLD NEWS from the Blue Room of the White House.”

    “The network plans a primetime special — ‘Prescription for America’ — originating from the East Room, exclude opposing voices on the debate.”

    In a complaint to ABC News, Republican National Committee Chief of Staff Ken McKay called the decision “astonishing,” noting that ABC had rejected a request that dissenting voices from all sides of the political spectrum be represented.

    ABC News’ announcement that they will openly turn over their news coverage to the government while censoring dissenting opinions goes one step further than the Bush administration, who at least made the effort to keep their fake news scandal a secret until it was exposed in 2005.

    Under Bush, the government produced fake news packages and distributed them to local news networks around the country, most of which aired them without question. The fake news packages were also broadcast on a national level by CNN. Reporters and pundits were also paid off by the government to promote specific policies.

    • Silvan,

      Truly … what do you expect??
      Hypocrites are hypocrites.
      Media in any country is subject to the government.
      Propaganda has always been used.

      I’ve travelled a lot … and not as a tourist.
      Some countries will not tell its people of any crimes at all.
      Others manipulate the facts.
      It’s all the same.
      Why trust any man??
      Trust The Lord only.

      • Abigail, i thought you’d know me a little better by now.
        Iam aware that all massmedia is lying and twisting facts.
        They are owned by a very few elite-families, manipulating almost everyone in every case, for bringing up the NWO.

        I posted because surely not everyone here knows that.
        🙂

        • Silvan,

          Although I used that opportunity to speak my mind … my remark was not aimed towards you.
          I personally am very thankful for your diligence!
          I mean this in all sincerity!
          Thank you,
          You are a caring person.

      • Most people, even some or many christians, get their news from the mainstreammedia.
        I hope everybody wakes up, and gets to true investigative journalism in the internet, as long as it will be possible.
        The cybersecurity act gives Obama the power to shut it down completely.
        There are enough good sources, like
        http://www.wnd.com
        http://www.infowars.com (Alex Jones is a christian)
        http://www.raptureready.com/rapnews_db.php
        (excellent collection of daily news from other sites)
        .

        Regarding the offensive picture-story on the Telegraph about new Falseflags and dirty bombs i mentioned and posted the link:

        Remixx World
        Wednesday, June 17, 2009
        I was listening to the Jason Bermas “The Infowarrior” show tonight and one of his callers had an interesting comment about a code in the controversial multi-part London Telegraph “Operation Blackjack” art series. The Blackjack series is controversial, because it has no real artistic merit except for perhaps being a blueprint for the introduction of global government.

        Jason’s caller mentioned a weird hexadecimal code in Part 5 of the series. The screen cap is below.

        Weird Hexadecimal Code and Possible Warning in Telegraphs Operation Blackjack Part 5
        If you type this number (74686973206973206e6f742073696d706c7920656e7465727461696e6d656e74) from the ID card into a HEXADECIMAL to STRING converter, then you get the following message:

        “this is not simply entertainment”

        This may indeed be a warning or an elaborate comic book. If it is warning, then I want to give thanks to this caller!
        http://www.prisonplanet.com/weird-hexadecimal-code-and-possible-warning-in-telegraphs-operation-blackjack-part-5.html

  33. I mentioned earlier, that there were also NYPD and FBI drills in New York on June 13.
    ( http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=98036&sectionid=3510203 )

    Now i learned on the PrisonPlanet-Forum that NORAD is conducting drill from 18 to 24th.

    On 9/11 NORAD was conducting drills, that mimicked the ACTUAL Attacks of 9/11 !
    On 7/7/05 british anti-terror forces were conducting training exercises which mimicked the ACTUAL attacks of that day.

    This NORAD drill starting TOMORROW drill will deal with a nuclear bomb and a virus being released!

    Here in this comment is a quote from the NORAD web site:

    “Norad Drills. June 18th-24th 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sADiCCi_sbY
    This is the one that will deal with a nuclear bomb and a virus being released. Here is a quote from the NORAD web site:

    “PETERSON AFB, Colo. – North American Aerospace Defense Command and U.S. Northern Command are planning to conduct a combined exercise June 18 – 24 that will incorporate several military exercises with a National Guard exercise. These linked exercises are referred to as ARDENT SENTRY 09. Events will take place in multiple venues across the country including Iowa, Kansas, Oregon, Wyoming, and off the East and West Coasts.

    The exercise will allow several Department of Defense organizations and some federal and state partners to implement plans and respond to a variety of notional events. Historically, exercises like these have helped both DoD and other agencies review their processes and procedures and focus their future training efforts on closing gaps and identifying areas that need additional attention.

    Major AS 09 venues include:

    * NORAD’s AMALGAM DART exercise involving air defense activities at Camp Rilea, Oregon;
    * The National Guard’s VIGILANT GUARD exercise focused on civil support with major activities in Des Moines, Iowa and Topeka, Kansas; and,
    * A Nuclear Weapons Incident exercise (NUWAIX) with a U.S. Air Force response near Cheyenne, Wyoming;

    The activities in the vicinity of Camp Rilea will involve the deployment of an Army National Guard ground-based air defense system that will be integrated with Air Force airborne systems (AWACS and fighters) and a Navy Aegis Destroyer. (Media interested in covering this event should contact Mr. Al Eakle at 1-850-283-8080)

    Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and Nebraska National Guard units will respond to multiple events in Iowa and Kansas including simulated train derailments and foreign animal disease. (Media interested in covering events in Iowa should contact LTC Greg Hapgood at 515-971-6385; for events in Kansas, contact Sharon Watson at 785-274-1192)

    In Wyoming, Air Force Space Command will respond to an incident involving a simulated nuclear weapon. (Media interested in covering this should contact Capt. Sharbe Clark at 719-554-3815).”

    Then there is this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI4EyCPhxMY NLE 2009 will be a terrorism prevention scenario. It is assumed that there are terrorists who have came into the US from the Southwestern border with Mexico as well as domestic terrorists operating in the U.S.. There has already been an attack and rather than doing the usual response drill, this exercise is for apprehension and detention to prevent another attack.

    Lets not forget that FEMA arrived in NYC on 09-10-2001 for a search and rescue drill. Norad was running Viligant Guardian on 9/11. The ATF wasn’t in the Murrow building the day of the bombing in OKC. The British government was running a drill on 7-7.

    This is crazy like I said in the earlier post. They “drill” for the attack this month and “drill” for martial la next month. Nice time line if the exercise goes live.”

    Another comment:
    “Seriously- Blackjack is the “world version” of the TV-Serie Jericho.

    5 to 6 maybe more plot points of the blackjack series are key plot points of the TV series.
    Heck even an episode where the main characters learn what happened to the world, the title to that one is BLACKJACK.

    If those aren’t connected i’d be really surprised. Cause either its a writer/comic guy who made an innocent adaption off that plot…

    Or its to be taken seriously. You decide.
    And another comment – notice the name of the drill:

    “Found another Homeland Stupidity Drill taking place today in Wisconsin.

    “On Wednesday, June 17, Children’s Hospital of Wisconsin and Froedtert Hospital will participate in a large-scale community disaster exercise in partnership with units of the U.S. military.
    The training exercise is known as “Red Dragon.” It is the first full-scale drill to be conducted in the nation in which the military assists civilian hospitals. The drill will involve hospital staff, local emergency response services and federal/military personnel and other resources.
    Red Dragon, which is part of the U.S. government’s Homeland Defense Initiative, will be the largest exercise in the nation this year. Hospitals in seven counties throughout southeastern Wisconsin will participate.
    If you are visiting the Milwaukee Regional Medical Center that day, please note:
    -Doyne Ave. near Froedtert’s Clinical Cancer Center will be closed. Traffic will be re-routed.
    -During your visit, you may see military personnel, vehicles and tents. Near our hospital. This is all part of the drill.
    -We will continue to provide the highest level of patient care. For more information visit the home pages of our Web sites: http://www.froedtert.com and http://www.chw.org.”

    Remember also Israel held a major citizen drill recently!
    And a few nukes went missing.
    If it is really happening, the scapegoat for the bombs will likely be Northkorea, or maybe also Iran.

  34. There is more hexadecimal code:
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4590866/Blackjack—Part-4.html?image=16

    Guess what it says!
    .

    This Is The Number…

    54686973206973207468652066696e616c207761726e67206f 6e207468​ 69732073697465202d20616c6c206675727468657220776172 6e696e6773​ 2077696c6c20626520676976656e206f6e206a61636b626c61 636b31322e​ 696e666f2e2042657761726520417264656e742053656e7472 792e204265​ 20616c65727420666f722053656d69732062656172696e6720 7468652073​ 756e2069636f6e2e204e6f7420616c6c206665646572616c20 617574686f​ 7269746965732061726520696e766f6c766564

    This Is The Translation…

    This is the final warng on th?is site – all further warnings? will be given on jackblack12.?info. Beware Ardent Sentry. Be? alert for Semis bearing the s?un icon. Not all federal autho?rities are involved

    Check This Out Too…!!!

    http://www.jackblack12.info/jackblac…Blackjack.html

  35. What are semis, Marianne?

  36. Hi Marianne,

    Well have you heard this news!!??

    Rome, June 17.
    “Soon the world will admire the Ark as described in the Bible as the container of the Tablets of the Law which God gave to Moses,” says Abuna Pauolos, the Patriarch of the Orthodox Church of Ethiopia. He is in Italy for the “G8 of Religions”, and will meet Pope Benedict XVI tomorrow for the first time.
    http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=149138
    http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=n&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adnkronos.com%2FIGN%2FMediacenter%2FVideo_News%2F%3Fid%3D3.0.3437775502&sl=i

    Didn’t even know there was a G8 of religion.
    Did you??
    Well what can one expect ?
    I mean hey … Rome after all1

  37. Now , now here is a man I like!!

    On Sunday, Netanyahu told his Cabinet there would be no limits on Jewish construction anywhere in “unified Jerusalem.”

    “We cannot accept the fact that Jews wouldn’t be entitled to live and buy anywhere in Jerusalem,” Netanyahu declared, calling Israeli sovereignty over the entire city “indisputable.”

    “I can only imagine what would happen if someone suggested Jews could not live in certain neighbourhoods in New York, London, Paris or Rome. There would certainly be a major international outcry,” Netanyahu said.

  38. I believe that Israel will give up so much land that the A-rabs will take it over, and I believe that the anti-Christ is of ISLAM

    • hi madjewess

      Agreed. The bible said the antichrist would take over Jerusalem. That it has UN approval kind of makes it official, since all nations are predicted to go against Jerusalem.

      • Marianne, why is it that, I see this, and you all see this, but nobody else sees this?
        Whats really weird is…How can you be ‘pro-Israel’ when we know that satan will take control there?
        I try to always say “The PEOPLE” of Israel, b/c we know that that govt is terrible.

  39. What I mean, is that I support the ‘PEOPLE of Israel’.. that are Holy, Torah abiding Jews, also Messianics and Christians there.

    All, I know, is please OH GOD, save us and help us in this terrible time coming.
    Shalom, Lord Bless you and keep you.
    In the name; YeShua, everlasting son of the living God.
    Isaiah 60
    א קוּמִי אוֹרִי, כִּי בָא אוֹרֵךְ; וּכְבוֹד יְהוָה, עָלַיִךְ זָרָח. 1 Arise, shine, for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
    ב כִּי-הִנֵּה הַחֹשֶׁךְ יְכַסֶּה-אֶרֶץ, וַעֲרָפֶל לְאֻמִּים; וְעָלַיִךְ יִזְרַח יְהוָה, וּכְבוֹדוֹ עָלַיִךְ יֵרָאֶה. 2 For, behold, darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the peoples; but upon thee the LORD will arise, and His glory shall be seen upon thee.

    • hi jewess

      The antichrist is not an Israelite, and his character does not reflect that of Israel.

      It is not that ISrael is evil, and deserves to be taken over.

      It is more that Israel has been betrayed, and being victimized.

      Zech 12 describes how all nations turn against and abandon tiny Israel, as its enemies prepare to invade and destroy her.

      Zech also describes the holy fire that comes upon the leaders of Judah and the courage of the people, which draws the Messiah to their aid.

      As a person, I have also been in the situation that Israel will be in. It takes the deepest point where we are weak and helpless when God shows up.

      It will be the scariest time, but it will also be the threshold of the greatest joy Israel has ever known in its existence.

      • Marianne,

        I really want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. You just set my mind at ease.
        Israel has many enemies indeed, and within they are terrible.
        I hope we live to see this day come to Israel. They have been through enough.
        Shalom. God keep you safe, and your family, and draw you closer to Him to teach great things.

  40. I am sorry if I have to disagree… because I got a very very clear picture that falls all puzzles into place for the first time. I understood the dreams what it is trying to tell me.
    First of all, first dream was about a dragon came out of the land.. second was about another dragon raised out of the sea/water… that means.. they are OUT and HERE now already.. New president in Germany is already taken place.. HE is the one all MUST be careful and avoid. HE is the antichrist.. plain and simple. He have the bloodline history of 800 years between Germany and Europe.
    Another dream was shown about the comet ( rock ) mix with blood and fire… means ?? ah ha.. rockets… World War 3.. how and whom ? Same man above I speak of. Let me give you his name.. Meet Baron Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg… He sure does carry his forefathers bloodline of 800 years.. He wants to take Europe.. why ? Because of nukes that can destory the world… surprise surprise…
    Now.. next dream I have seen so far… during or after war I am not sure which.. there will be horrible shifts and changes in earth.. that would throw all buildings to the ground.. and something in space will cause this earth wobble and drunk.

    So, please… I am very sorry to have to put this out front for once and all.. because I have been listening for a long time.. watching for all signs and puzzles to fall into places.

    Here it is. God wants all to be aware…. for Satan is out and ploying now.. right now.. this year.. welcome. And secondly.. God is coming.. oh yes very very soon.. but his wrath is unspeakable.
    So please.. pray! for all including yourself. Make sure to leave any space time commit your time with God.. everyeay anytime anywhere… It is critical.. and very important.

    I will leave this at the moment for you. Germany is eying Jerusalem right now.. so be ready, dear children.. Be ready …
    God wants everyone to be aware.. forgive me for posting this as I am requested to do so. Blessings 🙂

    Big hugs and prayers to all

  41. Cattasang kahang baby.

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