Third Temple being built
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At first, I thought the 3rd temple would be built on
the Temple Mount, but Israelis are building one in
Mitzpe Yericho.
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Will end time wonders ever cease?
I also would have thought they would have called this the “School for the Cohanim (priests) and Levites for service.” But they are calling it the Third Temple.
Jews in the town of Mitzpe Yericho are taking practical steps to prepare for the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem, by preparing descendents of Cohanim (priests) and Levites for service.
At the Mitzpe Yericho school, Temple priest hopefuls learn exactly how to conduct the daily Temple service and offer the required sacrifices.
The school will include an exact replica of the Temple, so hence there is a 3rd temple now.
“Today is really a historical event for the Jewish people,” organizer Levi Chazan said as another part of the school was completed. “It is the beginning of the work for the Third Temple.”
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The timing of the work on the school is particularly appropriate due to recent Muslim riots against Jewish visits to the Temple Mount,
Baruch Marzel said. Marzel is a long-time Land of Israel activist and parliamentary aide to MK Michael Ben-Ari.
Reference:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133801
Heaven Awaits 
Maybe the Third Temple is a third type of body?
Strange times.
The true third temple is the restoration of the true body of believers into one congregation, free from denominations and cults, yes our bodies are His temple and we will be restored into unity and see revival of the Church of Acts, which most likely will be a persecuted, underground church when the one world religion is installed.
I believe that we are in an era where we are close to end times as we know them. The 3rd temple must be built and then – anytime, maybe right away maybe years from now – the anti christ will be revealed and will need to seat himself / herself-whoever, in the temple to fulfill one of the last prophecies. Preparation of everybody is necessary now for this event and the revealing of the beast / satan and at this time – Christ will return – no doubt…
@ JudKast Your comment just shows how much you know about bible prophecy. How can the anti Christ be a woman?
you are correct, we are the temple; however the third temple that is being built will be the one the anti-christ will dwell in at the beginning of the last 3 1/2 yrs of the tribulation professing he is god.
Hi. in reply funny you should say that about the church of Acts. The pastor of the church I go to was adamant that there would never be an Acts type church again. I think he meant it wasn’t relevant now? Why would he say that? I’ve only been there a couple of weeks after leaving a large church after over three years. The people at my new church are very nice but something doesn’t feel right and I don’t know why. They were going to merge with church of Christ but didn’t for some reason. I don’t know if I should continue going there or if its just my flesh. Anyone have any ideas?
dear alana
it sounds wrong…..it is not your flesh, it is theirs.
find somewhere else to go or just stay home with the Lord.
bad churches can do a lot of damage.
Thanks Alana for noting about Bad Churches….indeed, most groups of people end up creating higher levels of SINergy, even though many of these originally formed to follow Jesus–the earliest churches ended up dispersed/destroyed also, God never promised to keep any particular local organization of believers together….there’s a great film out about a lot of what’s happening now within/without the church which is sure to have major impact…check out (TRAILER) AGE OF DECEIT 2 – Alchemy and the Rise of the Beast Image for more details (and fasten your seatbelt!)
From the Diaspora
JM
Hello JM, thanx for your advice to Alan against seeking to join nice looking physical organizational religions as the church of Christ, for there is no such a thing. Rather true believers wherever each one is, form the body of the church of Christ. But touching on films from Hollywood, Bollywood, Nollywood, and any other wood, to a greater objective they are all produced to give a new outlook/redefine history hence, corrupt truth, and to a lesser extent make money. What is holly about wood, if its not about the abomination of worshiping under the green tree as it is written throughout the bible? No actor can serve two masters (God and Satan; Truth and Lies; Light and darkness) and remain in this so called hollywood territory. On the other hand, you need only the invisible 1% lie (leaven) to make the whole truth (unleavened). Remember, in the book of Revelation God calls His church to get out of Babylon (evils of the world), to which hollywood is at the centre. Just satisfy your hunger and quench your thirst with the WORD OF GOD, which is the bread of life.
Look for the fruits.if it has good fruit,maybe you should stay.
If it has bad fruit,or no fruit,keep looking.keep praying and reading God’s word.he will guide you.
God will bless you for seeking him.we need to be around other believers.the relationship part is so important
to who this may concern, history is repeating itself there is first a 430 yr. period when israel came out of the exodus, followed by a 100 yr period, followed by a 70 yr. period. I will give you a clue after 430 yrs. God was going to give his promise land to the nation of Israel, if history is repeating itself, so.. find the 430 yr. period for todays Israel. The bible was written so we would know the second coming of christ, thats why God is the only living God, because hes the only one who can tell whats going to happen before it happens, this brings him and only him all the glory.
they are not building a temple there just a school for descendants of Ahron to learn the duty of the priests.
godssecret
yes. there is a school. But if you listen to what they are saying, they are also building an exact replica of the temple there, so the priests can practice.
Well, as you say, practice for the real thing!
Fire coming out of the temple mount??
The real thing is going to start happening on 21 May 2011, which is the 17th day of the 2nd month of the Biblical Calendar. Exactly 7000years after God shut the door of the ark on the 17th day of the 2nd month in the year Noah 600.
Jesus was the Temple and He was “rebuild” on the 3td day after His demonstrated how He paid for our sins on the cross on Friday 1 April AD 33.
Please dont fall for the “fruitless cursed figtree”
May God have mercy on each on of us.
AS of March 16th, 2010…Construction of Third Temple begins…Yeah!!!
Are you talking about the temple being re-built on May 21, 2011
Johannes, what was that you theorized (but taught as fact) about 2011? Just checking…
Shriners who are masons originate from the muslims and in particular Mohammed’s son in law… Shriners were originally a police like force that kept the masses in line.. Their red fez they wear is said to be red because of the blood of their vicims when they cleaned their swords on their hats..So I am sure Obama could be a mason..
Barak Obama, a black man, a mason? I don’t think so
black men can be freemasons
http://www.grandlodgescotland.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44&Itemid
I am not familar with third temple… I only know of two… The temple Jesus build which is his church God indwells… Zech 6-12..And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name [is] The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
And isaiah 14-13 which could be considered the third temple
I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the SIDES OF THE NORTH: I think this is satans dome of the rock. IS THIS NOT IN JERUSALEM ..Isaiah48-2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, [is] mount Zion, [on] the SIDES OF THE NORTH, the city of the great King.
strange name DOME OF THE ROCK…considering Jesus said to Peter ” Thou art Pteter and upon this ROCK I will build my church… and Peter and the apsotles are the foundation of Christ’s church..Jesus being the chief corner stone..
Dome means ROOF, CEILING..and Jesus is the ROCK..Strange name…dome of the rock..
I do not remmeber seeing anything about a third temple in scripture…
ruth
Ezechiel predicted a temple which has not been built yet.
I have been waiting for it to happen for as long as I can remember…
The “rock” that Jesus said He would build His church upon was not Peter or the apostles. It was the answer to the question, ” Who do men say that I am?” Peter confessed who he believed Jesus to be, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” ( Matt. 16:13-18) what distinguishes a Christian from the rest is the truth they hold in who Jesus is. He is not Elijah, or a prophet, or a moral teacher, or the brother of Satan, or one of many gods, or an enlightened human on a higher plane. He is the Son of the living God, and this belief makes me apart of the Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against me because I will rise when He calls my name to eternal life. Maranatha!
All the Jews need really, was an ALTAR and necessary tools for the sacrifices……not an elaborate timewasting temple…end-time things are speeding up, just watch, after Xmas….
……Something else: “trust in the Rock/Jesus Christ”…not RockeFELLER who is everywhere in the mix!!!
Ed
Jericho,
some say is one of the oldest city in the world … but Puma Punku is by far much older.
It defies logic to say the least. Some scientists believe it to be atlantis … but definitely pre flood. It is said to be at least 17,000 thousand years old or older.
Some say the sons of god built this or ‘nephilim’, but it defies reason in its structure and technology.
On Temple-building….I possess a typed architectual design-copy of the Temple somewhere buried in my boxes. They have to improvise now for the morning/evening sacrifices of Ex.29:39, Dan.9:27. This makes the A’christ ‘covenant’close.
This will probably not be the approved temple of the Lord acc.to Ezek.40-…but
The KJV Dan.9:27 reads “he shall confirm the covenant” ((but God said there shall be no peace…till He come))…but Luther (German is often clearer) says “er wid vielen den BUND/cov. schwer machen” d.h. (A’chr.makes it difficult with hardships) and
the Linguists say “berith” meaning covenant/league…until the sacrifices are overturned and replaced with the probably ‘image’-abomination after 3 1/2 yrs. —–I still think this will be more an ok rather than a written agreement/covenant ??? Maybe things clarify more ???
Ed
Ed
Ed
I know that back around fall of 2009 they started building the alter that is needed for cleansing so after hearing about this third temple it makes me wonder. Also there is now a president over the eruopean Union. Whom wil arise the anti christ. they plan to divide into ten sections all this is happening altogether at the same time.
HI mark,
I saw that about the temple. If the Jews are excited about it, we should be also. I think it is awesome to see prophecy unfold right in front of our eyes.
Hey Marianne,
Don’t they also need the Ark of the Covenant? Wasn’t that found in 1982 by Ron Wyatt?
hi lyndsey
The Jews know where the ark is. When and how they use it is up to them. They are smart, and anticipate some negative movements by their enemies. I think they would have to have perfect peace before they bring out the ark.
Hi Marianne,
Does this also mean that there is a Red Heifer born and ready?
hi lyndsey
There are some arrangements that have been made. They have some prospects in Israel, and are trying to do selective breeding. They also have an agreement with an American rancher, who raises Red Angus, and who has some good candidates.
King David was not permitted to built a Temple unto The Lord. Why?
Because he was a man of war.
Freemasons however revel in blood.
If the third temple is built now … it will not be by the true and real Israel.
Freemasons always seeks a temple … and they do masquerade as jews.
Have you notice how the Churva resembles a catholic church?
Just found your site today 4/11/10 , find it fascinating. Watched the “building of the 3rd temple” video, equally fascinated. One question is about Drudge report. I am a frequent reader of them and don’t remember this particular newscast on their site. You didn’t mention it, (or did you?) but it appears that Drudge Report is part of this NWO , masonic media front. Do you find that correct? Why would construct their front page as a pyramid if they aren’t part of it? Another question pertains to the rebuilding of the temple. Why would it be an “abomination of desolation” if its the jews who are building it? I mean, I thought they were God’s chosen ones? And lastly, why would the protestants want to rush into the endtimes and help usher the jews into building this temple? Is this the same reason why so many protestants are behind israel?
Thanks
dear katie
Form what I can tell, the Drudge report is just an opinion newsletter that goes out to subscribers. It addresses various topics, mainly political. I really do not know if it is connected to the NWO or not. It seems somewhat conservative in nature.
It is not who builds the temple that makes it an abomination. It is the future Antichrist who defiles the temple who commits the abomination. He sets up an image of himself and calls himself god.
Protestants are not rushing the end times. They just recognize the times we are in. They watch the news, and match it to bible predictions.
Much of what you hear reported on TV was predicted in the bible. This means the soon return of Jesus, because he gave certain signs of his return. These are being fulfilled now. About the only thing that has not happened yet is the Gog war.
But all the predictions is a big topic….in itself, no room in the comment section for it.
THIRD TEMPLE – A HOLOGRAM?
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.04/holyland.html
http://www.humanifesto.org/yitzhak_hayutman/index.htm
EXACT DESIGN OF THE THIRD TEMPLE AS EXPLAINED BY RAMCHAL 17TH CENTURY KABBALIST:
http://www.azamra.org/secrets.shtml
hi gavriel
I am surprised at them. That is the silliest idea I have ever heard. A hologram supported by a blimp for a temple?
The Israelis should have never given the temple mount back to the Arabs. Now this is a mess. Arabs do not share. They are not generous. They take but do not give back.
Prophecy says that the image of the beast will be set up in the temple. How is it going to get up there? I guess another blimp will have to carry the image to the temple in the air…..
no one can see anything up there!
Oh well, something else to waste good money on. There are poor people that could use the money more than the blimp.
such idea would have other purpose, other than simply not annoying Arabs…I think events of Armageddon would frighten people to the extent that they would be more frightened of God than Arabs, and convince them to re-institute the sacrificial system IMMIDIATELY…in such way holographic Temple would have a purpose of accompanying the sacrificial rituals, until physical Temple is built, which would take many years…
That still does not make sense. Are they going to fly up in the air to perform sacrifices?
Altar would be actually built of stone, hologram would give perspective for the rest of the Temple. Actually, the real Temple location is not at the site of the Muslim Dome, but in an empty area just opposite the western wall under the trees.
but there are no trees on the Jewish side, only the muslim side…how are sacrifices going to happen there? They won’t let any jew or christian near that area.
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remember the prophecy in the book of revelations regarding outer courtyard of the Temple being trampled by the gentiles? if we place Temple accurately opposite the western wall (under the trees in the muslim area), then Dome of the Rock will be placed just at the location of the outer courtyard (in the north side), area allowed to be trampled by the gentiles…
but they still are not going to let the Jews under the trees to do sacrifices…
Maybe some leader will appear with enough influence to implement re-institution of sacrifices, maybe it will be antichrist himself…
Or maybe, immidiately after defeat of Gog’s army, everyone fearing and in awe of God’s retribution will find it necessary to rebuild the Temple…notice, that last chapters of Ezekiel have chronological order…ch. 37 rebirth of Israel; ch. 38&39 Gog and Magog; ch. 40 -43 rebuilding of the Temple…
The Muslim temple is the image of the beast desecrating the temple…
i wish i could make something for god to put in his temple
hi benny
The Jews have everything they need to furnish the temple. Now, all they need is a building.
Hi everybody, my name is Patrick, I asked Y’hovah to forgive me of my sins in the name of Yeshua and to come into my life. He sent to me the Holy Spirit and has been cleaning my robes with the Blood of Yeshua. Now that I have been able to obey all 10 of His commandments with God Almighty receiving all the glory, as I can do nothing on my own, He has shewed me some really awesome information in His Word. Two Hebrew letters in the first verse of Genesis were not translated into English text “xn” the Aleph and the Tav (the First and the Last/ the Beginning and the End), also found in the book of Revelation.
In the book of Daniel 1:1,2 seems to be the first time the daily sacrifices were taken away in the 3rd year reign of King Jehoikim 606 B.C., I then learned the Dome of the Rock was stood up in the year 684 A.D.
In the book of Daniel 12:12 I found some dusty old numbers. In History, I found 1290 solar years from the time the daily sacrifice was taken away to the year Dome of the Rock was stood up. If the Hebrew meaning of Allah is moon god and they worship Allah in the Dome of the Rock, would this not me an abomination to the Lord? Is the Dome of the Rock not stood up right were the left wing of the temple was and is to be? Is this a subject that has been sealed up till the end? I believe that one must be at the Beginning to know the End, if you know the Beginning, you will know the End. The End is the Beginning!!! If 1290 = solar years, could the 1335 = solar years? 684+1335=_______ . If Israel put forth its branch in 1948, will the majority of those born in 1948 still be alive in or around 2019,”give or take a year”? The testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy. It is exciting to see prophecy take place before our eyes, however, it is very clear in scripture that true believers will be handed over to Great Tribulation and the Lord will return in great Power and Glory immediately after the power of the Holy people is completely shattered. This is very scary, however, greater is He that is in me, than he that is in the world. Yeshua died on the cross to heal us from sin, he did not heal us to sin. Are not the Words of Yeshua,”Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more”.
Read Revelation 12:17 and tell me who the dragon makes war with.
Read Revelation 14:12 and tell me the patience of the saints.
Read Revelation 22:14 and tell them who may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city.
Man can not obey God’s 10 commandments with out His help!!! This is why He gets the Glory, you can obey His Big 10 if you ask Him!!! He will pick you up if you fall, just as you picked up your children or a child when they were learning to walk. Walk with God Almighty my friend, He is separate from sin, His Son died for you, this proves He loves you!!! He is coming very soon, even so come Lord Jesus, amen, amen and amen!!!
According to my calculations on a the dome of the rock, It was built between 688ad-791ad, with 598bc being the end of sacrifice. not sure how you got your start date, but I backtracked from 586, the year of exile began to when the temple was pillaged, by looking at the years the kings before the exile served, so my dates are slightly different than yours. Note also the 70 years from 1948-2018 (or 19) Also 1948-1260= 688ad?
I know Marianne has different dates than I do, but we are all in the same ballpark, which is soon! As for the dome on the rock being the abomination of Daniel, I think it AN abomination, But not THE abomination that causes desolation.?
hi Patrick
We are all getting about the same conclusions you are. It is mind boggling that all this is happening, after thousands of years of waiting.
Hi Dru & Marianne, I used Kent Hovind’s Longevity Chart to get from Adam to Joseph. His chart is very accurate; my NKJV Bible listed Terah to be 27 yrs old, so I looked up the Hebrew verse and it translates Terah being 70 yrs old, so I believe Kent Hovind’s Chart to be very accurate.
So then I started off with Isaac, Jacob and Joseph, my calculator and the Scripture to get through the Kings down to the 3rd year reign of King Jehoikim being 3558 yrs from Adam, I believe the Israelis could not properly do there sacrifices because King Nebuchadnezzar took some of the Golden Utensils & put them in his treasury. I can email my math sheet to you, it has the Bible verses and numbers on it. Soon I will have more ink to print more copies of my timeline and I can send you a copy. I have sent 14 timelines out to people I know, however, after 3-4 weeks they have yet to have time to look at them. I would really like to hear someones comment on my timeline, maybe I have a mistake somewhere that someone could reveal with God’s Word. His Word is awesome!!! And yes, after thousands of years, Trueths hidden from us till the time of the end, is phenomenal, even hidden in plain view!!! God Almighty is awesome!!! And to think that He sent His only begotten Son down from heaven to die on the cross for someone like me. If He loves me this much, He can love anyone who will turn to Him!!!
Patrick,
Here is another reason why I go with the later dates, 2019-2026 for the tribulation. Jesus ministry started 27ad, 2026 would be the last year of the second millenial day. As you may or may not know, 27ad at the start of Jesus ministry, is when God’s kingdom began (its in Johns gospel, but can’t recall verse). Jesus said he would rebuild the temple in three days, it was always assumed that this referred to his death and resurection, but it has the double meaning of millenial days?
Of course we all could be sitting here in 2027 feeling the great disappointment again. you never know.
Dru,
What is the date of Jesus’ ministry based upon his birth date discovered by Rick Larson on Star of Bethlehem?
Larson said 2bc was birth. the start of his ministry in all timelines I have seen is 27AD.
are your calculations based upon the jewish calendar of 360 days per year?
Patrick –
Please check out the following link when you get a chance…
http://jesussays173.blogspot.com/2013/07/date-of-jesus-return-before-proceeding.html
Hi Dru,
Very interesting point of views. We may very well be seeing 3 fold meanings as well; one could also calculate (John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I shall raise it up.) as also being 1 day equaling 1000 years.
When Jesus rose from the dead on the 3rd day, was it the beginning of the 3rd day or the end of the 3rd day?
We are his new temple.
“1 Corinthians 6:19 What? know yea not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which yea have of God, and ye are not your own?”
If one calculated between 2000-2999 solar years, would 2030 A.D. be the start of a third day (in 1000yrs equals one day as onto the Lord), or 2030 x .9857 = 2000.971 in lunar yrs, thus making the yr 2000 A.D. the beginning of a third 1000 yr day from Yeshua’s death upon the cross?
Also the slaughters that took place between 538 A.D. & 1798 A.D. equal that of 1260 yrs and I believe the guillotines will be used through out the world for 1260 days and Immediately after the Lord will return in great power and glory and this power can be found in Isiah 24:19 and not limited to, lol.
God Almighty is very powerful, similar descriptions of His power can also be found in nearly (if not) every book of God’s Word. In Jan. 2010, I started resting from Friday evening to Saturday evening, during this time frame, my family and I read God’s Word and so far every book in the Bible that I we have read, prophecies about Yeshua and the end times.
Hi Lyndsey,
the below link has information on the birth of Christ and I have found it to be nearly undeniable.
http://www.versebyverse.org/doctrine/birthofchrist.html
Does God use wicked men to punish His people when His people turn away from Him? Or, Does He simply remove His hand of protection during these times?
I believe the Holy Spirit will soon be poured out upon His chosen soon and we will be given a little holp during the Great Tribulation.
Joel 2:28-32
[28] And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
[29] And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
[30] And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
[31] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
[32] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.
Note: I have not set any dates and the yrs I have picked are most likely wrong, lol. But I know the time is coming very quickly!!!
To everyone reading, God loves you greatly, He sent His only begotten son to die on the cross for you, come join the temple of the Lord God Almighty, He will send his Holy Spirit into you and you will know He Is Real. Today is the Day of Salvation.
Revelation 3:19-22
[19] As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
[20] Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
[21] To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
[22] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
Patrick,
As I mentioned three millenial days began when Jesus ministry began, in 27 AD. It was three prophetic days till he was raised from the dead, and 2027 would be the start of the final millenial day. According to Luke Jesus was crucified on the sixth hour, or 12:00 noon (Jewish way of stating hours) I am sure his “punishment began in the morning hours. He Rose again at the start of the third day, the first day of the week. As I am assuming he will will come again and rule starting the third millenial day.
As for the questions regarding lunar vs gregorian calender, the only thing that is unaccounted for is the .25 day for which we have the leap day every four years. This might push the dates out another 2 years. My arguement againt this is that the Jewish would have adjusted the calendar to fit specific feasts and solar events.
Also, I would imagine the prophets dates were written for our time, and for our time to understand? perhaps.
Hi Patrick
The article of the birth of Christ you gave is very good. Conclusions are essentially the same I wrote in “Star of Betlehem” site based on Stellarium analysis.
I have some notes to make to the written article. Venus is designated to be star of Ishtar (as somebody said this name is pronounced like easter) and many people still to day celebrate it with the same manners as in ancient times. Father of the lies stole it to be his morning star and symbol of fertility. The Lord never gave it to him but people believed the lie. But the conjunction of Jupiter and Venus was not the sign of the birth of Jesus but rather confirmation to Gen.3:15 “..her seed..shall bruise thy head” and June 17 2 BC that was shown in the skies adding that now the time has come. This is how I understand the reason for this brilliant conjunction. Jupiter is the real morning star of Jesus.
In their timing of the event they determine that birth happened before the moon set. They obviously regard part of the leg below knee to be foot. Webster’s tells it’s the lowest part of the leg. I would not agree this timing unless there are also some other reasons to accept it.
Fertility of Mary was in no way dependant upon astrological invention of fertility of Venus and therefore remarks of that do not belong this kind of article.
The last sentence of the article is astounding, Jesus started his service 29 AD at the age of 31. The explanation might be that they wanted to tie the time with 33 AD Cross. But why?
Dru,
27 A.D. may very well be accurate.
Did you check out the link I posted?
If the birth of Christ was at dusk on Tishrei 1, 3 B.C.”Day of Trumpets” exactly when (from earth, the moon appeared to be under the sun for it’s 3 hrs and as the 12 stars appeared to be above the sun as described more accurately in Revelation 12:1,2 & proven in astronomy) we can then take what is written in:
Luke 3:21-23
[21] Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
[22] And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
[23] And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
So then, 3 B.C.+ the beginning of 30 yrs would calculate around the month of Tishrei 27 A.D. and Jesus was baptized.
So then, how long did He live as flesh and blood before he was nailed to the tree?
And are there any historically dated records of an eclipse that took place when he was on the cross?
If virgo takes place every 30 yrs, it may have taken place at His baptism too.
27 A.D. seems to be backed with scripture and the signs in heaven.
3 rd question; is there a solid date for when the Dome of the Rock was stood up?
“And are there any historically dated records of an eclipse that took place when he was on the cross?”
I think that there is from what I understood from Rick Larson on the Star of Bethlehem videos…
Patrick.
What I got from my research on the dome of the rock, was that it was built from 688-691 AD There may have been orders to build it before then, but I am unsure. I Got the info from wikipedia, and some timeline of the Holy Mount. How accurate that is, is a question mark. Lyndsey could point you in the direction of locating years of eclipses, as I am not a techno wiz like she is!!!
There is a verse, I believe in the Gospel of John that says the kingdom of God began when Jesus ministry began. It was in reference to the Law Being fulfilled. Old testament under the law, New testament is fulfills the law? I looked for it, but could not find it on short notice. I will keep looking.
Is this it?
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Throughout the book of John, chapter 15 and 19, it specifies which OT prophecies were fulfilled by Jesus…
http://bible.cc/john/19-36.htm
http://www.bing.com/search?q=holy+bible+and+john+and+law+fulfilled&pc=Z018&form=ZGAFDF
Luke 17:20,21 is close. “…The kingdom of God is not coming with signs to be observed, 21. Nor will they say ‘look here it is!’ or ‘there!’ For the KINGDOM OF GOD IS IN THE MIDST OF YOU”
That might be the one I am referring to.
“Lyndsey could point you in the direction of locating years of eclipses, as I am not a techno wiz like she is!!!”
awwww 🙂 (secret is google) LOL, but thank you!
Best educated guess using Rick Larson’s star of bethlehem findings is that the eclipse took place approx 4:51 pm on April 3, A.D 33.
Moon was already eclipses (blood red) as it was rising.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/star-of-bethlehem-the-science/
Dru,
Use caution, because the Messiah was promised to King David. The Messiah was prophesied all through my Father’s Word and many have believed on Yeshua before He fulfilled Scripture.
As for the Old being under Law and New being fulfilling Law:
Matthew 5:17-48
[17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
[19] Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
[20] For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
[21] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
[22] But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
[23] Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
[24] Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
[25] Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
[26] Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
[27] Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
[28] But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
[29] And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
[30] And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
[31] It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
[32] But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
[33] Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
[34] But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:
[35] Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
[36] Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
[37] But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
[38] Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
[39] But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
[40] And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
[41] And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
[42] Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
[43] Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
[44] But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
[45] That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
[46] For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
[47] And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
Revelation 14:9-12
[9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11] And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
[12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
Friends beware-
The teachings of the Nicolaitans have been a stumbling block for many, for their belief is based upon a recognition of the mercy of God as the ground of salvation, however, they make the fatal mistake that man can freely partake in sin because the Law of God is no longer binding. Yeshua did not abolish the Law, he brought more in depth meaning to God’s 10 commandments. Man can not obey His big 10 with out His help, this is why He gets the Glory. Yeshua is the Great Healer, He will heal you from sin.
John 8:12
[12] Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
Yeshua is THE LORD OF RIGHTEOUSNESS
Tell me, will sin be permitted in the 3rd Temple that will be built in Israel? So, it is to be Holy? Does Holy mean: to be separate from sin? If you are a member of God’s temple, should you not be Holy? Allow the Master Builder to attach you to the Corner Stone and believe what Peter said about Paul, for it is not bad. Stand upon the Rock because the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Holy, Holy, Holy is the Lord God Almighty!!!
Who Was, and Is, and Is to come, amen…
Off the subject a little bit, I was reading in Genesis 49, could it be that archers were sent to assassinate Jesus? If they where, could Yeshua’s arms have been strengthened by God Almighty to catch the arrows before impact. Yeshua was infact in the line of Joseph. Yeshua is awesome!!!
Genesis 49:22-24
[22] Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
[23] The archers have sorely grieved him, and shot at him, and hated him:
[24] But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel:)
To know the End, you must be at the Beginning! If you know the Beginning, you will know the End! The End is the Beginning! Yeshua was there with God, when God created the heaven and earth.
Patrick
You said the beliefs of the Nicolaitans “…Makes the fatal mistake that man can freely partake in sin because the Law of God is no longer binding.” I am not sure where you Got this info on the Nicolaitans. Translated from greek, Nikos =conquest, Laos=people of conquest, Tan forms the plural. Literally, Nicolaitans Translates as One who conqers the people or Laity. In other words, this is a group of people that have put themselves in authority over the people in the church. Sound Familiar?
I peter 5:1-3 elaborates on this even more, saying: “So I exhort the elders among you, as a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, as well as partaker in the glory that is going to be revealed: 2.Shepherd the flock of God that is among you, exercising oversight, not under compulsion, but willingly, as God would have you; not for shameful gain, but eagerly; 3. Not DOMINEERING over those in your charge, but being examples to the flock.” Being a shepherd is akin to being a servant of the sheep. teaching them, and feeding them, and guiding them. In other words, the Nicolaitans are a priestly class that takes Glory for themselves, putting themselves above the members in the church rather than being brothers and sisters in Christ as God commanded.
As for the Law, Grace, and sin in the life of a Christian: I think the New testament is clear, Not an Iota of it is annulled. There are however those amongst the church, who fall victim to the ritualism of the pharisses. In other words, they obey the law to the letter, but they do it with the wrong motives. This is the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. They crave to sit in the seat of Moses because of the honor associated with it rather than with the attitude of wanting to serve the flock. This sort of ritualism and legalism lacks the transformation of our hearts. In other words, They are obeying the law in order to glorify themselves, rather than being sanctified by the grace of God through the work of the Holy Spirit in us. It sounds like this is what you are talking of as well. At any rate, with this sanctification, we cannot take credit or glory for the work, for the work is done by God. All Glory is his for the tranformation in my heart. That being said, I am still in the process of being transformed by the Spirit. Thus I still am relying on God’s grace. I do not think that this sanctifying work ever ends in this life, because we are still in our sinful flesh. Until the Lord transforms our flesh, we will always be vulnerable to the flesh. But Through Christ Jesus, and by his blood, we can have victory over sin and death.
As a Note on the Greek, Laodiceans is derived from the greek words LAOS, and DICE which mean conquerors or rulers, and Dice means Judgement. Literally, the conquerors will be judged. Or another way to put it, “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.” I Peter 5:5b
With this in mind, I boast about the work of the spirit in me by God’s grace, not by my own works and adherence to the law. All my authority is nothing apart from God’s grace.
God bless.
Dru,
http://www.wordoftruthradio.com/questions/38.html
This is where I got that info on Nicolaitans.
I have also read those web sites, where you had gotten your info, and I do not disagree.
I sense you are displeased with me?
I looked back on my writings, and realized I typed way to much.
I am sorry, it is amazing so much can fit in this little box.
I did not realize that I was stepping upon your authority.
I thought this was a neat way to share the good news about Yeshua, I’ve never been on a blog before. Many people can see this right?
If you read what I wrote about God’s 10 commandments, you will see that I repeatedly gave Him glory for helping me obey His big 10. Did I not proclaim this 1st in my writings?
I have nothing to gain? Gee, I’m not really sure what you mean about gain’en somethen?
Any ways, sorry for that to?
However, it is very clear in God’s Word who will the drink from the river of life and enter the gates into the City.
God’s 10 commandments are based on Love.
And as for the Jews, they did not obey God’s big 10, and this can be found stated in:
Matthew 15:1-9
[1] Then came to Jesus scribes and Pharisees, which were of Jerusalem, saying,
[2] Why do thy disciples transgress the tradition of the elders? for they wash not their hands when they eat bread.
[3] But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
[4] For God commanded, saying, Honour thy father and mother: and, He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.
[5] But ye say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;
[6] And honour not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have ye made the commandment of God of none effect by your tradition.
[7] Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,
[8] This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
[9] But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
Dru, I am seeking the Truth as to when Jesus was born, when He was baptized and when He died on the cross to better proclaim the Good News of the Beginning & the End.
This is like focusing in on the Corner Stone of the Temple.
May God bless you Dru.
Just verify 2 things I wrote above:
I believe the teachings of the Nicolaitans to be error.
And the Jewish leaders in Yeshua’s days are the Jews I was referring to, it is not my wish to offend Jews in general, there are many Jews who obey God’s 10 commandments and hold the testimony of Yeshua.
You stepped on no toes. I Have no authority, and do not want any. What I have is God’s. I will comment later on the other stuff, I have to run.
Patrick
I am not displeased with you? Not sure where you got this Idea. I agree with your concept on the nicolaitans as well, using mercy as a license to sin. Pride has a way of doing that, and I speak from experience. Pride is what we use to put ourselves on a pedestal, so that we can lord over others. When we glorify ourselves, we begin to think that we deserve this or that, and begin to demand it. I am guilty of this as we all are in one respect or another. God by his Grace chose to knock me off that pedestal, therefore, I have no authority, nor do I want it. I would rather have Him be glorified than myself, for without Him, I am nothing.
Now you talk of keeping the ten commandments, But I feel it is the commandments of Jesus that we are to strive to keep. I am not saying that the ten are not to be followed, but that Christ’s commandments are what true obedience is.
1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart. This sums up the first four commandments. In other words, you can keep the first four commandments externally, but if you do not do them out of love in your heart then you are a law breaker, as the pharisees were. The only way to truly love God from our hearts, is to dwell in his Grace, Or remember the cross. This is why we hold the communion in our churches, “In remembrance of Me (Jesus)” and his sacrifice on the cross.
2. Love your neighbor as yourself. This sums up the other six commandments. Again, we can be truthful, or whatever for all the wrong reasons. Our love for others is to be an expression and transfer of God’s love for us. In other words, we love ourselves, because We are the object of God’s affection and Love. Again, it brings us back to the cross, for that is where God’s love manifested itself.
3. The third command as written in John 13:34 is: “A new commandment I give unto you, that you Love one another: just as I have loved you, you are also to love one another.” Or John 15:12,13 “This is my commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends.” This command is different from the second in that its basis is to Love as God(Jesus) has loved us. This command tells us to not only love others, but to forgive them, as God forgives. Or show mercy and grace towards others, as God has shown his mercy towards us. Or lay down our lives for others, as Christ layed down his life for us. This is far more than the ten commandments. We could not accomplish this were it not for Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross. Ask any person that has been in difficult situation in their marriage, how hard it is to forgive our spouse. Or how hard it is to show mercy and love for someone who has wronged us in our time of need. There is no greater Love than this. This command also has a promise: “You are my friends if you do what I command you. 15. No longer do I call you my servants, for the servant does not know what his master is doing; but I have called you friends, for all that I have heard from my Father I have made known to you.” (John 15:14,15) In other words, we are to be Christ like in our dealings with others, and we will be rewarded with being friends of Jesus and revalation of truth through the spirit.
This is the obedience which we are being sanctified for. This is what being a new creation in Christ is. This is the fulfillment of the law in us. Not just the law of Moses, but the law of God. This is the sanctifying work that is not, and will not be completed until the second coming. If we exalt ourselves, God will never be able to accomplish this in us. For Love and humility go hand in hand, and are expressions of Christ on the cross. For Jesus Humbled himself, to die on the cross for our sins, because God IS love. I say this not in a condemning way, But in the sense that the Holy Spirit is never finished with his work in us. By dwelling merely on obedience to the law, we are not reching the fullness of love, which is being Christlike.
As for the dates, I am not an authority on them, but the ones I shared with you are the ones the Spirit revealed to me. We will have to wait and see, and be ready for his return.
God bless, and may he be glorified.
Well said friend.
Dru,
Though I have a low self esteem, and I hate my life past, it lifts me up to boast of the Lord. I humbly ask you to forgive me if I seem boastful nor do I wish to have any authority. Though, I try my hardest to obey God’s 10 commandments of Love I am not perfect and daily the Lord molds me as well.
May God Almighty “Y’hovah” bless you Dru fully in accordance of His will in the name of Yeshua.
Hi Patrick,
There’s no doubt in my mind that you love God and wish to obey Him. Perhaps I misunderstand you regarding God giving you grace to keep the Law. The plan of salvation, as you know, was to get God back into His creation, that is, you and I. The power of sin keeps us separated from God. When we sin it is the deceptive power of sin that disguises itself as our thoughts. At this point it is our decision to yield or not to yield. And of course it is a fatal mistake for the believer to think that he/she must come to place of spiritual growth and maturity to defeat the power of sin.
The real issue is that sin isn’t so much what we do wrong as much as it means that we are wrong to begin with. The forming of the “new creation” in 2 Cor 5:17 is the beginning of Christ living in us. Obedience can only happen as Christ literal lives in us. He obeys through us as we consent to His presence in us.
I am thankful for your willingness to follow our Mater into the Kingdom! Blessings on you.
Hi everyone, You guys are great!!!
So then, it is safe to say the birth of Christ was in 3 B.C and He was baptized in 27 A.D. and he may have died on the cross in 33 A.D.
For how long did He do the will of our Father after His baptism to the cross?
Can we back 6 yrs up with Scripture?
Can we debunk this idea with Scripture?
Hi Patrick
My understanding is that Jesus’ service lasted 3.5 years, 1260 days being the same time as has been promised to satan in Rev. 42 months.
Hi Seppo,
Very good, can you find this in Scripture?
Hi Patrick
There is still one open question to me. Priesthood age is 30 years. Is it counted from conception or birth. Maybe somebody knows the answer based on Torah. This might be element in determining the time when His service started
Hi Seppo,
Excellent question, I could only guess at birth.
We may have to seek the scriptures, just as one would search their couch for a valuable coin lost in the bottom thereof, lol.
Lord willing, this Friday evening to Saturday evening, my family and I shall seek the answer to how long did Yeshua serve as questioned above.
Hi Patrick
As a starting point I would start with the Jesus’ basic teaching “Follow me”. The two witnesses in Rev. 11 served 1260 days and after that they were three and a half days dead before Spirit woke them up and they were lifted to heaven. Their authority shows that they were true followers of Jesus and it would be hard to believe that they didn’t follow also Jesus’ pattern.
I am now in the middle of move and next few days are very busy. Very little time to start searching details.
hi Patrick
My impression is that he died in 30 AD. Many think he had 3 years of ministry, but this time is not recorded. From what IS recorded, he celebrated ONE Passover, which would indicate one year of ministry, or a ministry that ended on passover. He could have celebrated other Passovers, but that is not recorded.
Here is some discussion on it.
http://www.doig.net/NTC15.htm
Hi Marianne,
This was my impression as well, infact I have 30 AD on my timeline, however, if I my calculations are incorrect, I shall change it to what is correct, I really wish to know the Truth.
Marianne
From what I have read, there were two passovers mentioned in the Gospels, and one which was not mentioned in 28 Ad.
This excludes the passover at his crucifiction, making 4 total passovers. Or approximately a 3 year period. I have been looking at some timelines which put Jesus baptism in 26 AD autumn, making his ministry 3.5 years??
what are the references ( book, chapter and verse) which document 4 passovers?
John 2:13, John 5:1 (possibly?) John 6:4, John 11:55.
As I said, the second one is not found any where. John 5:1 talks of an unknown feast?
Marianne
The reason many see three years in Jesus ministry, is that the Gospels deal with different parts of Jesus Ministry. The Gospel of John Talks about the early years more than any of the other gospels. It talks about things like Jesus first cleansing of the temple, which is different from the others, and Jesus Co-ministry with John the baptist. Matthew was told to follow Jesus the latest, therfore his Gospel skips these early years.
On another note, Did you Know that there were more disciples, when Jesus called 12 to be apostles? (See Luke 6:12-16) Therefore disciples and apostles are not synonomous. I did not know that until I just read that passage. You learn something new every day!!!
ok..thanks…I never noticed before ( number of passovers).
I think that in the very beginning of His ministry Jesus told the length of His time corresponding Elias draught. Further confirmation are the facts that there was enough bread for the widows and he raised widow’s child from the dead, similar features like Jesus did. Also during Jesus’ time heaven was shut up to the Jews as prophecied in Isaiah 6 which draught lasts still today.
Luke 4:25 But I tell you of a truth, many widows were in Israel in the days of Elias, when the heaven was shut up three years and six months, when great famine was throughout all the land;
9 And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; and see ye indeed, but perceive not.9 10 Make the heart of this people fat, and make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed. 11 Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate,
Good morning everyone,
Lyndsey, Marianne, Dru & Seppo, I am glad to be with people who are diligently seeking the Truth. I had to labor yesterday and today as well, my labor is always more so on Fridays and I have to go now.
Before I go, may I share some numbers that came to me in prayer last night:
365/2=182.5+365+365+365=1277.5 Solar Days/Yrs
360/2=180+360+360+360=1260 Lunar Days/Yrs
Oh, Wisdom translated in Hebrew and read backwards reads Knowledge and she was there in the beginning with Y’hovah, Yeshua & the Holy Spirit. Found in Proverbs Ch.8-10 and not limited too.
I must go now, be back this evening, may God Almighty send to us His Wisdom.
Please pray for me, that I may reflect Yeshua in my life to those whom I go to help today.
hi patrick
something to keep in mind.
Since the jewish calendar has to have the Passover in the spring, their calendar adjusts periodically to include a second month of adar. So one Lunar year may include 13 months.
Here is one for you 360 x 6= 2160 +30=2190
Or 365 x 6 =2190 The thirty is the leap month added every seventh year. The only thing not accounted for = .25 day X6= 1.5days.
In 360-calendar leap month of 30 days is added every 6th year to keep pace on solar calendar. The missing .25 days is taking care of in 40 year cycle. At first six cycles of six years making 36 years and then the next cycle is only four years and the last of these years is with leap month. So you get 33 years of 360 and 7 years of 390 days. Result is 11880 + 2730 = 14610 days(/ 40 = 365.25).
After 40 years a similar seven year cycle follows etc.
Plain Lunar calendar year is basically 12 x 29.5 = 354 days.
so we are back to using the solar calendar after all.
everything seems to come back to the number 40?
Not looking for any more math, just a comment.
Marianne, did the Jubilee year have anything to do with the calendar, or how does it fit in?
The Jubilee year is just the 50th year after a sequence of 49 years.
Although some have been counting the jubilees since it became a law, we are only supposed to count them while Israel is in the land.
Jesus announced his ministry in a Jubilee year, and he will return in one as well.
The Jubilee year is just the 50th year after a sequence of 49 years.
Although some have been counting the jubilees since it became a law, we are only supposed to count them while Israel is in the land.
Jesus announced his ministry in a Jubilee year, and he will return in one as well.
So it is dependent on current events and not history? Or when Israel has all twelve tribes in it, and has control of its promised territory?
Now that Jubilee, if I understand it correctly is announced with a shofar on Yom Kippur or day of atonement?
Jubilee has nothing to with the shofar or Yom Kippur. Those things happen every year.
Leviticus 25:8 and following:
8. “You shall count seven weeks of years, so that the time of the seven weeksof years shall give you 49 years. 9.Then you shall sound the LOUD TRUMPET on the tenth day of the seventh month. On the DAY OF ATONEMENT you shall sound the trumpet throughout all your land. 10. And you shall consecrate the fiftieth year, and proclaim liberty throughout the land…”
those are separate commandments and events.
Yom Kippur
Jubilee
10th day of the seventh month is day of atonement, is it not? I see that section of scripture all referring to Day of atonement, and year of Jubilee.
I guess I am not seeing where this is two different commandments.
Read also Hebrews 9:25-28
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-is-the-next-Jubilee-year.htm
That was one of the articles I viewed.
Marianne
I do not know how much more in context a verse can be than these verses in Leviticus. I even looked it up on a jewish website, where I saw that the Shofar was to be blown on Yom Kippur to announce the Year of Jubilee. I had to find a biblical backup for this which led me to Leviticus. I am just not seeing two different commands. Hebrews 9:28 places Jesus second coming on the Day of atonement. You really have to read the whole of chapter 9 to get this, and infer a little.
dru
Jubilee only occurs once every 50 years. So only one Yom kippur per 50 years is in a jubilee year. When the shofar is blown for jubilee, it is done on Rosh Hashannah
Where is this in the bible, or is this tradition? I think those verses clearly put it on the day of atonement. Rosh Hashannah is 10 days before the day of atonement, and is often associated with trumpet blasts (Aka Feast of trumpets), But the day of atonement is not associated with trumpet blasts, except on the year the pronouncement is made. This makes more sense to me because, It would not go unnoticed.? I think before you dismiss this, you need to research it. As I said, the Bible verses I quoted are pretty clear to me, and I await comments from others.
Therefore, Assuming Israel is regathered, and numbered, there will be a proclamation of a year of Jubilee with the sounding of the shofar on the day of atonement.? How long does it take divy up the land by tribe, and family is the question?
Marianne, you must remember that the last time this proclamation was done was nearly two thousand years ago, 27 or 28AD. I am sure people will “hear” it.
Dru
From Rosh Hashannah to the end of Yom Kippur is the 10 days of awe. It starts with a shofar and ends with one.
Rosh Hashannah is the beginning of a new Jewish year, so the shofar would announce the new year, which might be a Jubilee year, once every 50 years.
AFter 10 days, the shofar is blown again at the end of Yom Kippur.
This signals the end of the 10 days of Awe.
Maybe me and marianne are the jews holding everything up 🙂 LOL
according to Rabbi Baruch S. Davidson, all jews (ten lost tribes) must return to Israel before they will begin counting the jubilees.
However, my thoughts are that G-d is still counting them (I hope) or we will never get outta here!
Also, I read somewhere that this verse is talking about Jubilee years instead of “years”:
Genesis 6:3Then the LORD said, “My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years
*the original translation is allegedly 120 JUBILEE YEARS*
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/513212/jewish/When-is-the-next-Jubilee-year.htm
And here is this link. I won’t even pretend that I understand it but since you guys are doing math and trying to figure all this out, then maybe you can understand what this person is doing…:)
http://biblocality.com/forums/content.php?171-120-Jubilees-from-3816-to-2015
*I do KNOW that Jubilee years are important; I do KNOW that there are different kinds of Jubilee years; I do KNOW that the Feasts of the L-rd play a BIG PART in figuring out the prophecies.
Let me know what you figure out 🙂
Shalom Shabbat!
AND AND AND don’t forget the lunar/solar eclipses/tetrads occurring ON JEWISH FEAST DAYS in the years 2014/2015….so maybe that will give you a reference? 🙂
file:///C:/Users/Lyndsey/Desktop/tetrad.htm
I know I am not an expert in the feasts. But again, what you are saying is not in Leviticus for the day of atonement, so is this tradition then, or somewhere else in the Bible? I will leave it at that.
The services end at nightfall, with the blowing of the tekiah gedolah, a long blast on the shofar. See Rosh Hashanah for more about the shofar and its characteristic blasts.
http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday4.htm
Lindsey
Thank you for your input. My concern is that we are adding to the bible with this feast stuff. No offence, but that is why I am asking for the biblical references to the things that have been added. I remember reading in Esther I believe that they added to the feast of Tabernacles. So I am just trying to figure out where this stuff came from.
Now on the section in leviticus, I do not see how there are two commandments in those verses that I quoted as marianne said? I see that their is a trumpet blowing to announce the year of Jubilee on the day of atonement? This is the one year that no one knows when the next one will be because it is based on current events, and not the calendar. Even the years in Jesus time for the year of Jubilee are unclear. one said 27/28 ad, the one you posted said 29 ad.
At any rate, Hebrews 9 seems to indicate that the second coming of Christ will be on the day of atonement when the shofar announces a year of Jubilee. I am, however, reading alot into that passage? Zechariah 14:6 says “and on that day there shall be no light, cold, or frost 7. and there shall be a Unique day, which is known to the Lord (But Not the People) Neither Day nor night, but at evening time there shall be light.” It then continues in chapter fourteen to talk about celebratin the feast of booths, which begins 5 days after the day of atonement. You brought up the dual eclipses on Holy days, It is a rare, yet not unique event. since a solar eclipse falls on the first of the month (Lunar calendar), The day of atonement will never have a solar eclipse. Rosh Hashannah is the only feast capable of this. But probability also says that it is the most likely (only) feast for this to happen on. Therefore, your claims of this being unique, Is questionable. A Lunar eclipse is not dependent on what phase the moon is in, But is closer to the full moon. Again, what I am saying, is that having an eclipse on rosh Hashannah is not unique. And implying that this is the day of the Lord is possible, but unlikely.
I guess what I am saying is that if your looking for a solar eclipse, Rosh Hashannah is the only feast it could occur on. Zechariah says “but at evening time there shall be light” I believe this is referring to the “light” of God’s glory. The lights of the world (sun) could be blocked by the fire and smoke of God’s wrath. Just some thoughts.
Dru,
The eclipses and tetrads are occurring ON ALL OF THE JEWISH FEAST DAYS! This is VERY VERY UNIQUE. I gather from your comments that you didn’t click on the links I gave to you or read further into what is truly happening 2014/2015.
Sigh…..
You Have got to show me the link. the ONLY feast day a solar eclipse can occur is Rosh Hashannah, as it Has to occur during a new moon. This is basic physics, or logic. Sun,blocked by moon, therefore we see the darkside of the moon. No? The Jewish calendar is based on lunar cycles. Total Lunar eclipses are closer to the full moon. therefore the one time you definately cannot have a total lunar eclipse is on Rosh Hashannah, as it is a new moon holiday. Have you looked at Nasa sights to confirm the videos you are watching?
again, I just looked it up. Sept 13th 2015 is the only solar eclipse that falls near a Jewish feast. It is a day before Rosh Hashannah, a partial eclipse, over south africa, and indian ocean. Does not sound unique to me. I looked from 2014-2016 and that is what I found.
Since there are anywhere from 2-5 eclipses per year, and they all fall on the new moon, if there are 2, you have a 1/6 chance of one being on rosh Hashannah, If three, 1/4 chance. You get my point it is not unique. I will look up lunar eclipses later.
lunar eclipses 2014-2015 = 4total. apr 4 2015 falls on passover, and is not visible from israel. sept 28th 2015 is the feast of the booths, and is visible in Israel. As with Rosh hashannah, most of the rest of the feasts are calculated from the lunar schedule. with the full moon being the guide. so odds of a lunar eclipse on a feast day, >1/12 for feasts based off of full moon probably around 1/144 for it to be visible in Israel. Just a guess.
Here are the dates of Lunar eclipses for 2014-2015:
april 15th 2014 not visible in Israel
Oct 8th 2014 Not visible in israel. day before feast of booths
april 4 2015 passover, not visible in israel
sept 28 2015 feast of booths, this one is visible in Israel.
Note the feast of booths is based on fullmoon, and lasts six days. there is a high probability of having a lunar eclipse fall on it.
The last 3 Feasts yet to be fulfilled/WILL BE fulfilled upon Jesus return:
Rosh Hashana/Feasts of Trumpets
http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday2.htm
The name “Rosh Hashanah” is not used in the Bible to discuss this holiday. The Bible refers to the holiday as Yom Ha-Zikkaron (the day of remembrance) or Yom Teruah (the day of the sounding of the shofar). The holiday is instituted in Leviticus 23:24-25.
Shofar: Click to hear it blow!The shofar is a ram’s horn which is blown somewhat like a trumpet. One of the most important observances of this holiday is hearing the sounding of the shofar in the synagogue. A total of 100 notes are sounded each day. There are four different types of shofar notes: tekiah, a 3 second sustained note; shevarim, three 1-second notes rising in tone, teruah, a series of short, staccato notes extending over a period of about 3 seconds; and tekiah gedolah (literally, “big tekiah”), the final blast in a set, which lasts (I think) 10 seconds minimum. Click the shofar above to hear an approximation of the sound of Tekiah Shevarim-Teruah Tekiah. The Bible gives no specific reason for this practice. One that has been suggested is that the shofar’s sound is a call to repentance. The shofar is not blown if the holiday falls on Shabbat.
Days of Awe
http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday3.htm
The ten days starting with Rosh Hashanah and ending with Yom Kippur are commonly known as the Days of Awe (Yamim Noraim) or the Days of Repentance. This is a time for serious introspection, a time to consider the sins of the previous year and repent before Yom Kippur.
One of the ongoing themes of the Days of Awe is the concept that G-d has “books” that he writes our names in, writing down who will live and who will die, who will have a good life and who will have a bad life, for the next year. These books are written in on Rosh Hashanah, but our actions during the Days of Awe can alter G-d’s decree. The actions that change the decree are “teshuvah, tefilah and tzedakah,” repentance, prayer, good deeds (usually, charity). These “books” are sealed on Yom Kippur. This concept of writing in books is the source of the common greeting during this time is “May you be inscribed and sealed for a good year.”
Yom Kippur
http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday4.htm
…In the seventh month, on the tenth day of the month, you shall afflict your souls, and you shall not do any work … For on that day he shall provide atonement for you to cleanse you from all your sins before the L-RD. -Leviticus 16:29-30
Yom Kippur is probably the most important holiday of the Jewish year. Many Jews who do not observe any other Jewish custom will refrain from work, fast and/or attend synagogue services on this day. Yom Kippur occurs on the 10th day of Tishri. The holiday is instituted at Leviticus 23:26 et seq.
The name “Yom Kippur” means “Day of Atonement,” and that pretty much explains what the holiday is. It is a day set aside to “afflict the soul,” to atone for the sins of the past year. In Days of Awe, I mentioned the “books” in which G-d inscribes all of our names. On Yom Kippur, the judgment entered in these books is sealed. This day is, essentially, your last appeal, your last chance to change the judgment, to demonstrate your repentance and make amends.
Hey Dru,
When learning about the Feasts, notice that the Jews do not understand why they are required to keep these Feasts or what they mean. When we learn about the Feasts we are coming in with a new perspective, KNOWING who the Jewish Messiah is and by reading and learning about the Feasts, our eyes are opened to the meaning of the Feasts and how they apply to Jesus’ first coming AND HIS SECOND COMING!
Let me know when you get your WOW moment 🙂
dru
you are looking at a mitzvah string, where God gives a list of commandments, bakc to back. if you look at the day of atonement, it has nothing to do with announcing a jubilee year.
Lev 16:
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0316.htm#29
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http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Scripture/Parashah/Summaries/Behar/Strangers/strangers.html
thanks
Thank you alienated. Third paragraph of that post says the same as I am saying.
Hi alienated,
Thanks for this link, this helps me understand why the Lord lead me to register as a sovereign & sojourner. Thank you Thank You Thank You
All 3 of you are welcome. 🙂
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Marianne
On a slightly different topic, How far are you allowed to walk on the Sabbath? I could look it up, but since your here…
…..usually a half mile to a 3/4 mile at the most….
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/484235/jewish/How-far-am-I-allowed-to-walk-on-Shabbat.htm
this is up to interpretation.
More than that is considered “work.”
Hi everyone,
A couple months ago, I read some where that, the day of atonement was an unknown day of 2 days following the Feast described herein and is determined by a blue moon and no one knows which day it is until the blue moon is revealed Is this correct? Or, am I confused with something else.
If this is true, I would guess the clouds would change the moon’s appearance from blue to red. Rev.6:12 and in other places darkened Ezekiel 32:7
Rev. 6:12
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
Ezekiel 32:7
[7] And when I shall put thee out, I will cover the heaven, and make the stars thereof dark; I will cover the sun with a cloud, and the moon shall not give her light.
There are many other references to this in many areas of the Scripture.
I copy and paste Scripture quotes from:
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/browse.html
fast and easy
This would be o do with the return of Yeshua.
“no man knows the day nor hour” hmmm
and I thought this was the 2 days that start Rosh Hashana/Feast of Trumpets ? no?
there you go with the “nor” again?
🙂
Was there a 50 yr Jubilee anytime around yrs Yeshua came down from His thrown to walk the earth as flesh and blood?
good question! then we can start counting from His Jubilee! 🙂
actually, Jews are not observing jubilees now until all 12 tribes are back in Israel.
see this comment on this page.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/will-messiah-come-this-next-jubilee-year/#comment-44601
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http://www.growthingod.org.uk/jubilee.htm
Hi Lyndsey,
The Lord has given you a great skill with finding these links.
I shall print this one and read it before I go to sleep.
Good night all.
Thank you for the link Marianne,
My wife, and I have recently received our passports, both of our families came out of Germany before Hitler started gett’en out of hand & all, we may both have Hebrew ancestry, as most people probably do as well.
I have strong thoughts that we will soon be called to the Hills of Judea, I think of it everyday and I pray that I will have the strength to go when called, also that our flight will be before winter, and I would be afraid to fly on the Sabbath Day, I think people will be captured or the planes will crash on that Sabbath Day.
So then,is it safe to say the Birth of Christ was Tishrei 1, 3 BC and He was baptized in 27 AD?
And now we read to find how long He served between baptism and the cross?
Thanks to all who have offered up Scripture and links to help in this quest, may God Almighty be so with each one that we may find the Truth. Praise be to Yeshua!!!
hi Patrick
I really hope I do not have to head for the Judean Hills. That is a long way for me, and there are no hills near my house. I would have to travel 3 hours to get to them.
Hi Marianne,
(Not just any hills:) When I read in nearly every book of God’s Word (both old & new testaments) I see God prophesying about what was going on in Israel’s time, then I see Him prophesying His Son coming in flesh and blood and dieing for me to be healed from sin, then I see Him prophesying His Son coming in Power Glory and Great Wrath on the Last Day, then I see little sentences mixed there in describing a people being delivered from every nation to be nurtured in the Hills of Judea for 3 1/2 yrs while the seed of the woman who is nurtured is persecuted for the 3 1/2 yrs until God Almighty comes to gather all His people up, then His Wrath falls upon the wicked, I keep thinking that earth will then pass through the debris trailing behind planet X just after planet X misses the earth, thus causing the earth to reel to and fro like a drunkard and causing the earth to be completely burned just like Sodom & Gomorrah.
Weather God calls me to Jerusalem during this time, or I have to face the guillotine, I look forward to being with Yeshua, I fear for my children greatly and if the Lord shall deliver us from the guillotine on wings of eagles, I wish to have the oil in my lamp and my children at my side and we will leave this country.
Maybe I am off base or something, it’s just that most books in His Word contain these clues listed above.
The End is scary, however the End is the Beginning and I love the Last Day, it is a great day of rest.
Our adversary will be locked down for 1000 yrs and I wish not to be deceived, neither now, nor when Satan is released from the Abyss.
The link Lyndsey posted last night is very interesting.
hi Patrick
The future may be different for each of us. All we can do is prepare and wait. God can handle anything we can’t.
Patrick,
There are two theories regarding the date of Yeshua’s of birth.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Christmas/christmas.html
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/star-of-bethlehem-the-science/
http://www.alphanewsdaily.com/Warning%201%20Israel%20Jerusalem.html
Good morning everyone,
Tishri 1 seems to be the date of the Birth of Christ, eay?
and this would be Yom Kippur. Jubilee yr. (3 BC?)
baptized 27 AD (around Tishri)
Very good Dru.
I was a little startled when I clicked on the horn to blow, lol, I was anticipating a low sound, and my speaker was turned up alittle bit too, that was perty cool.
Has anyone found any scripture to verify the above dates and when Yeshua died on the cross? Nison 1 Passover/Unleavened Bread/Firstfruits (30 or 33AD?) (Served 3 1/2 yrs or 6 yrs?)
and Pentecost “Shavout” (sabbath of sabbaths) being 50 days after Firstfruits.
Lyndsey, do you have any info on when the link “growthingod” was written? Very interesting info on Jubilee, Yom Kippur and sabbath days, not sure bout their dates though, however the author is on to a good study. A lot of reading with the authors links.
A funny thought came to mind this morning, it would be hard to see the dates written on the corner stone of a building if you are a stone of the building, I believe our Father gave us just enough info to get us in the ball park other wise people who lived 1-2000 yrs ago would put off stepping down from their thrown and allowing Yeshua to be seated as King of their heart, as it is our nature to put things off to the last minute. Many things are written of Yeshua in the Old Testament, He is The King of Righteousness and we are His temple, and all Power, Glory, Honor and Wisdom belongs unto Him, Yeshua is the Beginning and the End.
hi Patrick
Tishrei 1 would be Rosh Hashannah (Feast of Trumpets) and Tishrei 10 would be Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement).
I have always wondered about the comment made by Jesus when he said that we would have tribulation 10 days.
https://heavenawaits.wordpress.com/you-will-have-tribulation-10-days/
This is the ONLY time on the Jewish calendar where there is a specific, well defined period of 10 days.
When the abomination occurs, the Jews will flee Jerusalem. Possibly, they are exposed to this tribulation for 10 days while they organize to flee the city. After that, they are sheltered in the wilderness by God.
history update on that link is january 2008 to last update on july 18, 2010
Thank you
Good morning everyone,
I believe I have a couple mistakes on my timeline.
I found a link for everyone.
I searched for a link about the 70 wk vision given to Daniel.
I rejected one site because it contained images of heaven, then I found this site:
http://www.daniel70weeks.com/
I have only read 4 pages and I shall read the rest in God’s speed.
I also believe the 3rd Temple of the Jews will have to be built on the Holy Mount. And this can not take place till the a short war takes place when Israel is attacked, this could be next & seems to started with an attack by an alliance of 4 and 3 are nuked and 1 left to fear Judea.
Then the Jews 3rd Temple.
Then the Abomination of Desolation
Then the Great Tribulation
Then the Great Earth quake etc.
Then believers gather to the Lord.
Then the surface of the earth utterly burned.
Dru’s choice of the latter yrs are more accurate then my choices.
I must make changes to my timeline, and even then my changes may be still be inaccurate, as we well know “no one knows the day or the hour”. We must continue to watch and be awake and alert.
http://www.escapeallthesethings.com is a link that has been helpful in my studies also.
Though, these links we find can help us seek the Truth, we must always prove them with God’s Word.
Friends, thank you for helping me seek the Truth.
May God Almighty bless each and everyone of you with His Great Wisdom and Understanding to help others see the Truth.
Praise be to Yeshua!!!
Hi Patrick,
I am just wondering as to why you rejected what was said on one site that you found, simply because it had images of heaven on it?
God merely states that images should not be worshipped in place of Him, not that images are wrong or sinful.
God Himself commanded Moshe to create images.
Numbers 21:8 (the serpent.)
Exodus 25:18 (the cherubim.)
So images in themselves are not the problem. It is instead how man responds to them.
I think that to be a good Berean, we listen, (or read) what others have to say, then confirm it within scripture, test all things, and keep that which is true.
Hi alienated,
Those are good points, however two times “Thou shalt not” is used in Exodus 20:4&5 to do with images, I simply noticed the images as an indicator that the site was corrupted. If one is willing to persist in breaking one of God’s 10 commandments, then how could Mercy been given them when they have rejected the Light and loved darkness? If one loves darkness he hates the Light.
[4] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[5] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
[6] And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
The One who sits at the thrown of my heart defended against His adversary with His Father’s 10 commandments.
I abide in Him just as He abides in His Father and He in me. When I do wrong He tells me (daily), this is why I hate myself, however when I step down from the thrown of my heart and allow Yeshua to sit as my boss, peace beyond comprehension passes over me as if I have drank from the river of life already.
We are to Love God with all our heart and soul in 4 ways.
We are to Love our neighbor as ourselves in 6 ways.
Yeshua brought a deeper definition to these commandments when He left His thrown to become flesh and blood. As Dru said above, Jesus died on the cross to fulfill the law in us.
God delivered the Hebrews from the slavery of Egypt.
Yeshua paid the price for us to be freed from the slavery of sin. If one sins, he is a slave to sin. When the Light beams on our sin and we turn not away from sin, we retract back into darkness and reject the Light.
When Great Tribulation comes, one who faces the guillotine will over come Satan’s strong deception(s) by using the 10 commandments of love with the testimony of Yeshua.
Psalms 119:86-87
[86] All thy commandments are faithful: they persecute me wrongfully; help thou me.
[87] They had almost consumed me upon earth; but I forsook not thy precepts.
If one wishes to sit on the thrown with Yeshua and reign for 1000 yrs, should he not step down from his thrown and allow Yeshua to sit as King?
1 John 2:1-7
[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.
Alienated, humbly I come before not only you with these writings, be not offended by me.
May God Almighty give freely to you and the reader Wisdom, who was His daily delight when He laid the foundations of the earth, in the name of Yeshua.
Hi Patrick,
Again, God says in verse 5 His intent to be applied to verse 4. That being, “Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them.”
I believe that we have to read scripture in context to receive the correct understanding as to what is being said, or conveyed. Sometimes that means ignoring the numbers of verses and of the chapters themselves.
These were incorporated some 1500 years after the original texts, and can sometimes be problematic.
As I said above, images in themselves are not the problem. It is instead how man responds to them.
I would also ask, that you please not say that you hate yourself. I say that for a couple of reasons.
One would be by posing the question, “Do you hate me”?
I suspect, (or hope) that your answer would be “no”.
My response would then be, “Why not? For I am just as flawed as you are, and am only saved through the blood of Christ as well.”
Another would be because we are all of the same body, so therefore logically, to hate yourself, is to hate the whole.
Above you wrote some verses from 1 John 2:1-7, but what was the commandment that he was referring to that the receivers of this epistle knew from the beginning?
The answer is revealed in 3:11. “For this is the message that you heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.”
So I ask you, “How can you love your neighbor as you love yourself, if you don’t love yourself as God loves you”?
I am certainly not suggesting that we should be puffed up and proud, however I am saying that we should also be aware that we are deeply loved by Yeshua, in a way that is beyond our human capabilities to fully comprehend. And with that knowledge, we are lifted up, able to surrender, and shine our light, His light, to the world.
You are a brother in Yeshua, and we all fall short of God’s grace as a human being. Hence the necessity for our Lord to die on the cross for us.
Please don’t beat yourself up. Rejoice in the Lord instead.
Blessings
A lot of different thoughts are being discussed here, but remember people, the Temple being built is ALWAYS God’s will. Most people, Jews and Gentiles alike have no understanding of temple service. Firstly, most of the offerings are eaten by priests/levites/the person who brought them. Other offerings aren’t food at all, such as incense. The temple service can cause spiritual people to be elevated to levels where they can better understand God’s will, and even prophesy. Things in the bible that often trigger prophecy are incense offerings, being anointed (esp in new testament), music, praise, and before all of these, purity. Purity can be obtained by asked Jesus for forgiveness, but for a priest to properly fulfill the commandments regarding purity he has to follow a more strict lifestyle than the rest of Israel to ensure himself fit for service. Everything that I have listed just now was found and will be found in the Temple. So, right now, there’s no way to know all of the individuals involved in this project. But wherever God’s will is being done, there are surely believers there, and probably God loving Jews who just haven’t come to knowing that the Messiah has come, and definitely major Christian donations. After being built, prophecy will definitely increase in Israel and Jews will start finding out the truth, and they don’t have to hold by Rabbinic Judaism in order to follow the Torah. Honestly, Rabbinic Judaism is probably the biggest thing stopping the third Temple from being built. God can come through from the top ranks or the bottom ranks- what I mean by that is you can have a king like David who ruled over all of Israel and sanctified an entire nation, or you can have apostles like Paul who went to the poor and lowest classes in the nations to find believers and start a grassroots enlightenment. If those who are in charge of the Temple choose to do the will of YHWH, they will be rewarded in this world and the next, and they will expose Rabbinic Judaism and modern Christianity for what they are and provide the real way for people to get to know God and follow his commandments and love his only Son, Yeshua. And if they don’t, they either won’t do anything, or they’ll go to the dark side and it will be up to us blog-posters and street-preachers to take a beating to spread the word of YHWH.
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2027 CE is when the Tribulation Temple will go up I believe.
Many celestial events match the timing of the consecration of the
Second Temple and May 7, 2027 CE.
Many
We will see….
May The Lord Bless His Holy Temple. May The Lord be with us.
The Third Temple will be built after the Wars of Gog and the nasi [ Kohen Gadol ] will start sacrificing and the Messiah [ Mashiac ] will sacrifice every Shabbat.
The reinstitution of the animal sacrificial system and the third temple will be the greatest insult to the blood of our beloved redeemer in the history of the world. It will be saying to all, “See, we are God’s chosen people, because God has replanted us and given us back the Temple, now we can have forgiveness of our sins once more.” This practice will shout to the world what the Jews today believe and continue to teach, that the blood of Christ is just ordinary blood like any man. That Jesus is not the Messiah, and in doing so will fill the cup of wrath of divine judgment to the top and be the very reason that a loving and merciful God will unleash the last plagues and bowls of wrath. Don’t be fooled by the “great deception” coming on all the world, the old covenant is over, only the blood of the lamb can bring forgiveness of sin. Jesus said, “This is my blood of the New Covenant, shed for you, for the forgiveness of sin.”
Lee,
You really don’t understand what is happening in all of this. It was Yah personally that blinded His people, Israel (the Jews) to the fact that Yahshua was the Messiah. They were blind for two days (2000 years) while Messiah was gathering the Gentiles from the nations through salvation in His name. Not until 1948, when Israel became a nation again, was that blindness even lifted. Since then more than a million Jews have found and received their Messiah, with many more to come as we get nearer to the end. The Christian Church has enough blasphemy, sin, and lawlessness in their midst to waste their time condemning the Jews. Yah will see to the salvation of the Israel.
Look to yourself and stop condemning others!
I doubt that this is the end times temple. The Bible I have not read conserning this comment, but shouldn’t the muslim dome be destroyed, which will create war against Egypt and Israel? As in muslims and Christians, then the Jerusalem 3rd Temple gets built? I’m just asking.
if the dome gets destroyed either by attack or earthquake, the jews will be blamed and that will definitely start a war.
if a third temple is built, in place of the mosque, I will be surprised…since the jews will be attacked for the fall oof the mosque….if a third temple is built beside the mosque, I think that might be politically possible with antichrist involvement
Apparently the Pope has said somthing about building a ecumenical temple in Jerusalem, then the ‘Fundamentalist Extreemist Muslims can be put down along with the Fundamentalist anything which isn’t NWO’ists. I have heard that The British Freemasons are trying to arange building a temple there, too, and some Jews.
Hanukkah at Temple Institute: Working to Rebuild the Temple
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/174557#.Updmuo1Sbbd
earthquake or erosion under he dome of the rock.
ezechiel’s temple
Thank you everyone, i was fascinated by your discussion here. Shalom!
It is in the prophecy that the temple eill be rebuild, I thank God to this unfolding truth happening in my life time.
I am glad to see this happening at my life time
Following the ancient prophecy.
they say some are nuts when they put stufe like thies one paper but thies will be my frist why a man say that he is god thier is but one god to the sky is a moon that is red on the earth thier is a man that god has made jan 26 in his right hand something came forth * now thing are more to meets the eye. now thier is to much to note thank you good for your son and now it starts
Nov. 3rd, i am as sure as the sun comes up every morning there will be a new temple built. Pray and watch.
See new book THE PLACE from Tate Publishing. Details at http://www.until-we-see.com
The devil is the leader of Catholicism red eyed freak black shadow red/white light gleaming out the cracks in his skin looks like a smoldering coal man extremely good looking white man about 5’8″ black slicked back hair black eyes skinny athletic build gold chain something king Louie 16 would of worn rings with huge stones on every finger black business suit shoes and sunglasses I am the wittness in revelations destroyer angel seeker 2nd coming of Christ I have 2 white beams of light shooting out my eyes and spears of white light shooting off of me in every direction the end is near all organized religion will come together and worship him the beast and will go across the world to destroy and kill everyone and everything so he can eat them and then use their souls as energy to go against God and then be destroyed in the next 3 years he will sit himself in this temple and make everyone believe he is the saviour and then kill everyone after branding his food (people) in the foreheads he is a douche harasses me everyday every night like a plague you mortals cannot see him for he has no body look for a red glaze in the eyes of people for who he dwells and if you take a pic of a preacher and don’t see a white glow around them run for they are evil organized religion is of the devil the true church of God is coming
NO! THE 3RD TEMPLE IS A PHYSICAL SPACE WHERE THE ANTI-CHRIST IS GOING TO SIT UPON THE THRONE AND MAKE MANY JEWISH PEOPLE, ALONG WITH THE ENTIRE WORLD REPRESENTATIVES TO BOWL DOWN AND WORSHIP HIM AS THE messiah, WHOM THE JEWS AWAIT UNTIL THIS DAY, NOT RECOGNIZING JESUS CHRIST AS THE TRUE MESSIAH AND GOD,
THE ANTICHRIST WILL RULE THE WORLD FOR A TIME AND PERSECUTE THOSE WHO BELIEVE AND OBEY GOD THROUGH JESUS THROUGH HIS WORDS IN THE BIBLE. YOU WILL START SEEING IT IN 2017. FOR IT IS WHEN THE YEAR OF JUBILEE ENDS, FROM THE TIME ISRAEL WAS GIVEN BACK TO THE JEWS.
The construction of third temple is saying that the wrath of god is closer than ever. So we should love our saviour more than any thing.like the temple we should be holy.STAND AND BELIEVE!!
amen