What kind of “Church” are You?

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Jesus prophetically describes 7 kinds of Christians in the 7 churches in Revelation. Only one is promised relief from the trials that will overtake the world. Which type would really describe you and me?

For those who dreamily await the rapture, with sin in their lives, it might be good to review what Jesus said about them. Maybe many of us are too overconfident, and should re-evaluate our relationship with God.

The types of Christians:

Ephesians: (+) cannot bear evil, patient, work hard

(-) left their first love

Smyrnans: (+) works, tribulation of “10 days”,              poverty of spirit, faithful

(-) none, they will be martyred

*** This type either gets killed immediately, escaping most of the 3 ½ years, or they are already dead before the time of trouble actually starts, having been through their own tribulation.

Pergamosans : (+) works, do not deny Jesus name

(-) idols, sexual immorality,                                    Nicolaitans (elders rule the laity)

Thyatirans: (+) love, service, faith, patience, works

(-) Jezebel spirit, false prophecy, sexual

immorality, idols

****This type is promised “great tribulation.”

Are you a Jezebel?

Sardisians: (+) has name of Christian

(-) spiritually dead.

Laodiceans: (+) nothing

(-) neither hot nor cold, lukewarm,      makes God vomit, rich, so do not need God, prosperity seekers.

Philadelphians: (+) open door, little strength, but persevere, obedient

have not denied my name

(-) little strength


*** “I will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.” (Rev 3:10)


This is the real “Bride of Christ.”  She is pure, and without spot or blemish.

The Church joins Israel in the wilderness:

For those who do not believe any part of the Church will go through the tribulation, look at Revelation 12.

I often wondered that the “woman” is mention twice, each time for 3 ½ years persecuted and escaping into the wilderness.

But there are actually 2 women, one coming forth from the other, and they are both experiencing the time of Jacobs’ trouble together.

Woman #1 Israel is the woman with 12 stars, who gave birth to the Christ child, Jesus, Yeshua. The Church came after the child goes to heaven, so it did not give birth to Him. Israel is persecuted by Satan, and flees to the wilderness for 1260 days (3 ½ years – the time for Jacob’s trouble).

Woman #2 – Israel, but now has grown to include the church, who has the testimony of Jesus Christ (v. 17). The woman escapes to the wilderness for a time, times, and half a time. (the same 3 ½ years)

Both the fallen Christians and the Jews are in the wilderness together, to escape the wrath of the dragon, Satan. God is showing mercy to both groups, as they both carry His name, and call upon Him for help.

So which type are you – what does your conscience tell you?

In writing this, I was quick to identify with the Philadelphians, as being weak but faithful.

But then my conscience touched me.

Have there been times when I denied His name?

Were there times I did not admit I was a Christian?

Have there been times when I was NOT faithful?

Have I always been obedient?

Have there been times when I put money or the cares of the world first, before God?

Are there idols in my life that I do not admit to? Even my opinions can be idols.

Am I as “alive” in devotion as I should be, or am I really spiritually dead at times?

Oh, God in heaven, please forgive me. I am not what you want yet. Please help me in my desire to please you. Make me acceptable unto you, before it is too late. I cannot do it on my own. Give me a humble and contrite spirit, oh God, my King.

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44 Responses to “What kind of “Church” are You?”

  1. Hi Marianne,

    For the first part of your post addressing the seven churches, each one of the churches are called to OVERCOME. I think it clear that since all is called to OVERCOME then it is not a special group or a special type of ‘church’ that receives favor from God but only ‘he’ who overcomes.
    Revelation 2:7 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. To him who overcomes I will give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the Paradise of my God. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 2:11 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. He who overcomes won’t be harmed by the second death. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 2:17 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the assemblies. To him who overcomes, to him I will give of the hidden manna, and I will give him a white stone, and on the stone a new name written, which no one knows but he who receives it. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 2:26 He who overcomes, and he who keeps my works to the end, to him I will give authority over the nations. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 3:5 He who overcomes will be arrayed in white garments, and I will in no way blot his name out of the book of life, and I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 3:12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will go out from there no more. I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from my God, and my own new name. (WEB WEY BBE DBY NAS NIV)
    Revelation 3:21 He who overcomes, I will give to him to sit down with me on my throne, as I also overcame, and sat down with my Father on his throne.

    What do you think?

    • Hi abigail,

      I thought of that too, about overcoming. But this is for those who do not repent, and do not overcome. I sure hope they do repent, and fix themselves.

  2. In Newark, NJ there is a Religious
    broadcasting sation named WFME.

    WFME at 94.7 FM carries the satellite
    feed of Family Radio.

    Familyradio.com is the website of the Worldwide
    Christian Ministry.

    Harold Camping is the founder of the network
    and I’ve often listened to his speeches over my
    FM radio.

    Mr. Camping says the Church Age in the USA ended
    around 1980 or so and that today God does not
    use the churches.

    Harold Camping is an elderly man but is
    quite knowledgeable in theology.

    Tune in on your transistor radio if you live
    in the Newark/NYC area. 94.7 FM. They broadcast
    24 hours a day.

  3. The main problem is this – ‘PRIDE’. Or maybe I should call it in its’ puny little word –
    ARROGANCE.
    People have NO fear of God! They deny Him, they reject Him , they hate Him and they mock Him.
    God Himself will humble them and I can’t wait for the day.
    This time He will shake Heaven and earth.
    Those that despises Him and think they have no need of Him will be confounded.
    I don’t try to coax any into accepting the Truth.
    These do not know the Power of God, but they will soon recognize it.

  4. I wish to share with you a dream of a different kind.
    dated 17/09/08

    In my dream I saw a waterfall, a cascade.
    It was carved beautifully out of multi colored stone,
    a very geometric form, like a staircase.

    I was curious of it and as I approached it, I saw an animal
    guarding the structure.
    At first glance I thought it was a pig.
    But as I looked closer I saw it was a dog.
    A very ugly and sick dog.
    I said to myself, ‘Don’t touch it!’
    And I passed by it.

    As I reached this manmade waterfall, I saw that it barely had water falling.
    I saw adjacent to the structure a stone block.
    So I decided to sit down
    and as I sat there I realized that many babies had been sacrificed on this block
    as an offering to the waterfall so that there could be more water falling.
    I also knew that I could be made a sacrifice to this as well.

    So in my dream I left that scene and travelled away on foot
    by road

    And then I saw the most amazing thing!!
    A ways away a Powerful and Beautiful Waterfall
    that filled the ENTIRE Heavens and Earth.
    It is hard to describe Its’ Magnificence but any earthly falls
    pales in comparison.
    The Waters were gushing out with such Strength
    and causing a Glorious Mist full of rainbows and colors.
    Never had I seen something so Awesome.
    The Mountain reached to Heaven
    and was of unalterable Solid Rock.
    I saw this and then I woke up.

    So laying there on my bed, I thought about my dream and its’ meaning.
    I heard in my Spirit, ‘A choice of Service.’
    Finally I got up and made and had coffee,
    still thinking about my dream.
    And as I sat there quietly,
    I understood the dream and its’ meaning.
    And The Lord told me, “BRAVO.”

    You see, the first waterfall represents the spirit of the worlds’
    churches.
    Hardly any gospel nor Truth comes forth and
    what does come forth is through sacrifice,
    which is so attached to its’ way of thinking.
    It is MANMADE and it is guarded by pigs and dogs!!

    The Truth is PRICELESS!
    Jesus Christ is Priceless!
    And I know you know the meaning of the second Waterfall.

    It is not a small thing that I speak to you about!!
    If I could scream it out so the whole world would hear, I would!!
    A CHOICE OF SERVICE!!
    and whom will you seek with all your heart and live??
    Abigail

    • Hi abigail,

      Your dream makes me want to get away from the world, go to a beautiful park, and live there forever.

      • Pray for the church to repent as the preachers keep pimping the gospel and their products by putting their names on the bible, etc. We’ve all blasphmed the Holy spirit but
        i’ve never spoken words against.

  5. Harold Camping is by biblical definition NOT a prophet of God. He has predicted the 2nd coming over and over and of course been wrong each time. He preaches the end of the church age so that you will not put $ in the plate but in his radio show, also he has some other really odd theology, but thank you for calling and sharing. [his famous line]
    Marianne, I love the Humility picture. I wish I found it for my latest post!
    What kind of church, great question!

    • Hi Willaroots,

      Well, I figure each one of us is the church to others. When we are humble, not proud or wanting money, we get the second waterfall, as Abigail mentioned.

  6. Hi Marianne,
    I’ve tried to email you this phenomenal photo but it was returned to me by Yahoo as permanent error. So here I’ll post the long link.

    http://www.space.com/php/multimedia/imagedisplay/img_display.php?pic=090404-chandra-nebula-02.jpg∩=Red+represents+low-energy+X-rays,+the+medium+range+is+green,+and+the+most+energetic+ones+are+colored+blue.+The+blue+hand-like+structure+was+created+by+energy+emanating+from+the+nebula+around+they+dying+star+PSR+B1509-58.+The+red+areas+are+from+a+neighboring+gas+cloud+called+RCW+89.+Credit:+NASA/CXC/SAO/P.Slane,+et+al.

    Isn’t that celestial sign Awesome?

  7. Hi Marianne,

    If you make the image into a negative image you will see the nail mark in the wrist of the hand where the bright light is coming through and also if you look closely there seems to be a woman in the hand.
    Fox has also another link for a crown of thorns
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513038,00.html
    Awesome times we are experiencing!

    • What picture are you talking about?

      • Hi Gyod,

        The image that I am speaking of is the one that you provided a working link for. And I do thank you for that.
        I see the hand of God in that image and like I said if you make a negative
        image of this you will clearly see what I am speaking of.
        Thanks again for providing a proper link.

  8. Before I go to bed tonight, I am led to post this link for all of you.
    Enjoy this prophetic music!

  9. Ok, it is nice music, but prophetic?
    The has nothing to do with prophetic.
    The term is used much too often.

  10. I see in this combination of songs a true message to the bride.
    A new creation, a new wineskin if you will.
    A perfect blend of the entire tree from its’ roots to its’ fruit.

    I think that music expresses about the divine plan of God what words may fail.
    I see in this assortment a parable.
    Yes the heavens will be rolled up like a scroll and we shall behold Him,
    And yes we will go home after work.
    And yes there will be a wedding, between Heaven and Earth.

    The events of this new biblical year seems to be filled with ‘honey’ to accomplish the perfect will of God.
    I may be wrong and maybe events will not unfold as hoped for, and maybe it is a blessing to remain, but in my heart with great fear I want to go home.
    I have seen great doors pushed open suddenly and with great strength.

  11. The Lord says: “That’s My Church… they look like nothing…. yet one day they open their
    mouth … and will stun the world!”
    Here is another prophetic song sung by Susan Boyle.

    I dreamed a dream in time gone by
    When hope was high,
    And life worth living
    I dreamed that love would never die
    I dreamed that God would be forgiving.

    Then I was young and unafraid
    When dreams were made and used,
    And wasted
    There was no ransom to be paid
    No song unsung,
    No wine untasted.

    But the tigers come at night
    With their voices soft as thunder
    As they tear your hopes apart
    As they turn your dreams to shame.

    And still I dream he’ll come to me
    And we will live our lives together
    But there are dreams that cannot be
    And there are storms
    We cannot weather…

    I had a dream my life would be
    So different from this hell I’m living
    So different now from what it seems
    Now life has killed
    The dream I dreamed.

    Do you think The Lord is speaking?!!

  12. Here is a link to Susan Boyle

    • Hi abigail

      Susan is truly amazing….her voice is a gift from God.

      • Marianne, you began your post saying that, quote; “Jesus prophetically describes 7 kinds of Christians in the 7 churches in Revelation, only ‘one’ is promised relief from the trials that will overtake the world” (end quote)
        Then you conclude with Rev.3:10 (the church of Philadelphia).

        Atually there are three churches in this pssage that are promised this ‘relief’. But as in the church of Philadelphia, it is only ‘part’ of that church which are promised this “relief”, as those in verse 12, (who are also part of the Philadelphian church) do NOT get this ‘relief’ as they are told to ‘overcome’. The ones that are promised ‘relief’, are the “first fruits” from that church.

        If you notice carefully about Thyatira, the same promise is given ‘the few’,(the first fruits) “as many as have not this doctrine”….”I will put on you no other Burden”…But that which ye have already, hold fast till I come.” Then in verse 26, the rest in Thyatira, are told that those who “overcome” and who “keep Gods works unto the end, to him will I give…” etc. Christ’s reference to his coming (as in Relief) is promised here to Thyatira.

        This scenario is repeated in Sardis, as in Rev.3:3, Christ speaks in the ‘opposite’, by promising that if “they did not watch” He would “come upon them as a thief”. The converse or opposite is also true, that ‘if they did watch’, then Christ “would Not come upon them as a thief”.
        This ‘group of firstfruits’ from Sardis, is further mentioned in verse four, as “a few names, that have not defiled their garments”, and the rest that are ‘ovecomers’ told in verse five that they “will be clothed in white….. .” etc.etc. So there are actually three church types discussed, that will have ‘first fruits’ that are ‘given relief’ as they are part of the firstfruit order called “the 24 elders” . It is around this
        ‘small group’ of ‘firstfruits’ that the erroneous teaching of the pre-trib rapture has been concocted. Please visit my website, and check out my book, “None dare Call It Deception”. (just click on my name below)

        Morgan Sorensen

        I also want to agree with “willahroots” that harold Camping was Not God’s prophet, and has propagated a lot of False doctrine.

        Morgan Sorensen

        • Hi Morgan,

          What you say is true. I was basing my comment on the possibility that they did not change their ways, and failed, or refused, to overcome. Maybe I should have made that more clear.

  13. This was E-Mailed to me.

    • Abigail, I watched that ‘you tube’ clip you posted. That guy speaks with a South African accent, (where I was for many years)

      What he is saying, is in ‘generality’. We know Christ is coming, but this man gives no ‘New information’. There is no ‘urgency’ in his voice.
      He does not act like a man who has been before the “throne room of God”.

      Up through the years, I have seen several such characters. This man sounds more like a ‘kook’ who wants to be in the ‘limelight’. He does not even quote the scriptural passages correctly or completely. My feeling is, do not listen to such people, as they are not “in touch” with God, but generally turn out to be ‘false prophets’ like Todd Bentley, et al.

      Morgan Sorensen

  14. No one is perfect, no not one. If we have accepted Christ as our savior and repented of our sins, we do belong to God. We are in His hands and nothing can pluck us out. We are called to live as closely to his Will as we can, asking for His help and guidance and forgiveness each day. Hopefully we are closer to the person God wants us to be with each passing day, but there will be hills and valleys. At any time we could be almost any of the churches.

  15. Marianne, Have you watched the other four or five videos by the same man? what did you think about his video “the bible is not the word of God”? it was very hard for me to see it his way. he also has another video claiming if you are not completely absorbed with following Christ every minute of the day to the point of not watching television or anything else you are not born again. i would be very interested in hearing your take on his videos. God bless you and your wonderful work. mike

  16. Is this the way you think of God?

    “The Longer I live, the more I realize the impact of

    attitude on life. It is more important than the past, than education, than money, than circumstances, than failures, than successes, than what other people think, or say, or do. It is more important than appearance, giftedness, or skill. It will make or break a company…a church…a home.

    The remarkable thing is we have a choice every day regarding the attitude we will embrace for that day. We cannot change our past…we cannot change the fact that people will act in a certain way. We cannot change the inevitable.

    The only thing we can do is play on the one string we have, and that is our attitude…I am convinced that life is 10% what happens to me and 90% how I react to it.

    And so it is with you…we are in charge of our attitudes.”

  17. praise God from whom all blessings flow.

    Proverbs 3: 5,6 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart
    and lean not unto thine own understanding. In all they ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct they paths.

  18. Marianne;

    This web site:

    http://www.alittleleaven.com/

    is very cleaver on this You Tube on Joel Osteen. Look for the subtitles:

    Kittii

    • Hi Kitti,

      Sounds like the Laodicean church a little bit :-\

      ….well, I hope the people there really love Jesus, and are willing to have their faith tested.

  19. You have touched my heart yet again, i am so glad God has directed me to your site, it has helped me more than i could ever express. I have not been the child of God that i could be, in fact i have been increasingly disobedient and lazy this year since i lost my job. It was a jolt to the old ego but now i see that it is no reason to become so selfish. Only God can help and i love Jesus so much, but i have been a huge let down for awhile now and i thought i knew it all and you know what, i realized i didnt know squat. Anyway i’m rambling but God bless you again and again, keep it up.

    • hi jonathan

      I understand your situation. I lost my job too. Now I am making up for all the lost time, when I was “too busy” for God. Just trust Him and you will have your “daily bread” from heaven.

  20. Can you explain the + and the – again…are these the personaility traits of the believer? And the “works” are what the believer believes he must do?

    • yes.. + is what God said that was good about the church, its good points….then he said some negative things (-) that needed to be corrected.

      Works are any human effort – physical, mental, etc, – that are intended to serve God. Works are good, and should accompany faith, and the grace of God, which is what saves us.

  21. . i recently had a very bad experience with a “BIKER CHURCH” in Florida when i needed a church family the most! i saw and heard many things they said and did that was even aginst what they were suppose to belive AND what they were preaching! even that same day! i couldnt belive it! and even worse i tried to convince someone to give them a chance and trust them and it only caused more harm to both of our lives. we also witnessed actual abuse at a church function of mental and phsycal abuse towards a very young man that was hardly in his 20s that was truely aginst the law! this occoured just within minutes of a new assistant pastor arriving to meet the church and they covered it up!! he was NOT informed of the true happenings in the church! it sickened me to see how people needed this church and it was only damaging to thier souls thier lives and thier own personal freedom/choices the” preacher man” had no experience or training and has already lost atleast half the congrigation due to the new church bi laws that he has no right to make only god has that right! BE VERY CAREFUL WHO YOU TRUST THERE ARE THOSE OUT FOR THIER OWN AGENDA EVEN IN A CHURCH

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