Wings of Babylon

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The wings of the 4th beast of Daniel and Revelation

are important to interpretation of prophecy.

"The first was like a lion, and it had the wings of an eagle. I watched until its wings were torn off and it was lifted from the ground so that it stood on two feet like a human being, and the mind of a human was given to it. (Daniel 7:4)

The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. (Revelation 13:2)

Notice that the wings are removed from the first beast in Daniel 7.

This, then, is followed by 3 more beasts.

Revelation describes the last beast, which still has no wings.

Some interpret the lion as England, and the wings as America.

As the wings are plucked off, this indicates to some that America became independent from England.

This interpretation is also used to identify these wings as the same wings of an eagle, which rescues the “woman” in revelation 12.

I disagree.

If the wings were really America, then the first beast would be the last beast instead, with no more beasts to follow.

Also, wings on an eagle does not necessarily equal wings on a lion.

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Daniel lived during the time of the Babylonian empire.

He was carried off in 597-605 BC ( depending on which historical reference is used) by Nebuchadnezzar, the Assyrian, but was still living when Assyria was overthrown by the Medes and Persians.

The lion with wings represented Babylon at the time, as shown by history, and the wings plucked off indicated the loss of power at its downfall.

The plucked wings then showed the near future of the current empire.

They could also represent the humbling of Nebuchadnezzar, and how he had a more acceptable heart before God after his 7 year punishment.

Babylon was defeated by the Persians in 539 BC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Jerusalem_(597_BC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity

· 597 BCE

Babylonian king Nebuchadnezar captures Jerusalem.

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· 597 BCE – 587 BCE

Jews are deported to Babylonia.

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· 587 BCE – 539 BCE

Jewish exile in Babylonia.

· 539 BCE

Fall of Babylon, conquered by Cyrus of Persia. Return of the Jews.

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· 485 BCE

Babylon is destroyed by Xerxes, King of Persia.

· 321 BCE – 315 BCE

Seleucos rules the satrapy of Babylon.

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· 312 BCE

Seleucos conquers Babylon and founds the Seleucid dynasty.

c. 304 BCE – 64 BCE

Rule of the Seleucids in Mesopotamia.

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The beast I saw resembled a leopard, but had feet like those of a bear and a mouth like that of a lion. The dragon gave the beast his power and his throne and great authority. (Revelation 13:2)

In Revelation, the lion still has no wings and is reduced to just the mouth of the last beast. So its power has diminished even more, but it is still present as an active player, and it is the part of the beast that “speaks.”

Body of a leopard = Grecian empire. Except for the modern Macedonia/ Greece area, the whole region today is Islamic. The entire region is almost the same throughout time, except that different regimes are in control.

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Feet of a Bear = Medo Persia. Feet represent movement, and we now see a mass movement from this area to western countries. Includes Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Azerbaijan, and Wgypt.

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Mouth of lion = Babylonian empire. The mouth speaks for the rest of the beast.

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It is easy to see that these countries today are Islamic. And, as predicted the lion, which includes Saudi Arabia, and Mecca, the religious capital, is the center of power, and the other countries follow its instructions.

The Lion today does not need wings.

It is now carried by the feet of the Iranians / Medo Persians.

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95 Responses to “Wings of Babylon”

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  2. Ayah Allah God Signs the TRUTH:-
    Genesis 10 The Table of Nations
    14 and Pathrusim, and Casluhim–whence went forth the Philistines (USA)–and Caphtorim (UK).
    Philstia clan nations: USA (Ashdod), Australia (Ashkelon), Canada (Gath), NZ (Ekron)
    http://ekey-esir.blogspot.sg/2013/12/blog-post_10.html

  3. Bear symbolises resurrection because it is as though it dies in winter by hibernating then comes back in spring. There is one which was and is not and yet will come. Maybe Persia will return and hence it is symbolised as a bear in Daniel and perhaps in Revelation as part of this combined beast or empire combined with a lion element as feet and leopard element as main part. Leopards speak mostly today of Africa don’t they? (Why Greece, Marianne?) Lion? Yes, I like the link back to Daniel and Babylon without wings. So maybe we have Africa having a future rise to prominence combined with a defeated Iraq and revived empire of Iran. Sounds like Islam having a new golden age, doesn’t it. But the image of the first beast hints at an empire that copies the Roman Empire so as to make people worship the Roman Empire – United States? United Nations? No idea. Probably decades in the future for all I can guess. Will probably all make sense when it happens and perhaps it is yet to happen considering the passage in Revelation follows the Apocalyptic events of destructions coming from out of Heaven which sound like they are still yet to come like that. God does know though, doesn’t He.

    • stephen

      the bible interprets itself. the leopard was greece, not africa….that is what the angel told daniel, and history confirmed the interpretation. history confirmed each beast as it arose after the other.

  4. Reading and contemplatingh prophecy is intriguing to me. It also makes my head spin.

    There are those who believe that Daniel’s leopard is Germany, and as the leopard had bird’s wings, that represents France. Germany and France collaborated on the design of “Leopard tanks” and both are founding members of the European Union.
    https://www.endtime.com/blog/depth-look-four-great-beasts-daniel-7/

    “Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.” Daniel 7:23 (KJV)

    Marianne – would you please elaborate on, how, if the wings were America, the first beast would be the last with no more to follow? I’m interested in where your line of thinking leads.

    Denise

    • denise

      many today put the old symbols on new countries. to me, the old symbols still belong on the old countries. although i could be wrong

      in daniel, the lion w wings was the first beast…..one of three beasts that would come during ancient times….the last beast is the one from revelation…..it is a combination of all three earlier beasts

      so the first beast is only a part of the final beast, not the whole thing

      • OK. So, after the wings were plucked from the first beast, the wings do not appear again on the second beast, but appear on the third, the leopard. And the wings have doubled? On the lion the wings were of an eagle, two wings? The third beast, the leopard, has four wings. (Perhaps not important.)

        In Dan 7:4, after the wings were torn off of the lion, ” … it was lifted from the ground … ” Who or what “lifted up” the lion?

        Maybe I am thinking this through too much. I am just trying to understand, how the wings (or the lack) of the fourth beast, play a significant part interpreting prophecy. The fourth beast does not have wings? Then the wings today are irrelevant?

        I am trying to make the connection of the relevance of the wings in relation to prophecy, which was your opening statement.

        Denise

        PS: I am not challenging you. You must know that some of us out here take your words to heart and our intent is to learn and grow.

        • denise

          you can challenge me. when i focus on a certain issue, i may not focus on anything else.. 🙂

          I think god lifted up the lion

          true, the leopard had wings also….the wings to me represent swiftness of movement. I am not sure how swift babylon was, but greece had a reputation to be very swift. in daniel 8, the goat with no wings also represents greece. it “flies” across the face of the earth to defeat the ram (medo persia), which is now replacing the bear as a symbol.

          why the change in animals for the same nation?, I am not sure

          but in general, to me, wings show quickness, and therefore more power, and to have the wings clipped or plucked, slows or immobilizes the animal.

          the end time beast does not have wings, but it is also massive in size, with many parts ( mutiple heads etc), it is far reaching in power, so it does not have to be swift to conquer…because it already HAS conquered through its own methods

          the wings of an eagle shows up in revelation 12 to rescue israel….eagles did not have usually an OT meaning,,,,I think….so it may be a reference to the USA….not sure

          • Thanks, Marianne. Of course, yes, any of us who put our thoughts out there for the public to read are able to be “challenged.” Perhaps a better word for what I was trying to say is that I was not intending to be “argumentative” which is different from spirited debate or challenge.

            Yeah, the wings, two or four, the first beast or the third … “plucking” or “plucked” or “torn off” sounds quite purposeful and not so pleasant.

            When I think of “wings” the greatest image I have is that of the Ark of the Covenant that is depicted with two angels and their wings stretching back towards each other.

            The 4th beast, regardless of how large, or its basic make up, it has “iron teeth” (Dan 7:7) Iron rusts when in contact with oxygen and water, especially salt water.

  5. Brilliant! Thanks Marianne. I completely missed that the beast in Revelation matched three of the four beasts in Daniel 7:4-7. So all three pre-Roman empires will come back as one combined empire to force the world to serve a copy of the Roman Empire. The three combined into one will have changed a little in that the Babylonian element and Greece element will be wingless while the Persian element might be a full revival (like a bear returning after hibernation). In the Daniel 7 prophecy the bear is on its side perhaps that is like a bear about to hibernate. In Revelation something comes back into being having ceased to be. Perhaps that means all three returning as one or perhaps that is Persia being fully restored (I’m putting a lot of weight on a bear symbolising decline and full restoration but there is no proof that is an intended meaning of the bear). Excellent! Many thanks. Sorry for my slowness. Greece plus Babylon plus Persia combining as one empire and being destroyed along with the remnant Roman Empire and copy Roman Empire by Christ at His return. Got it.

    • Wings are important here, yes. Seen on lion and not bear but seen on leopard and not combined beast. Whatever those wings symbolise the Babylonians had under Nebuchadnezzar but the Persians did not have but the Greeks had twice what Babylonian empire had and the new combined empire to come will not have.

      • Wings? Greece had lots. Daniel 8:5 it spread without ever touching the ground implying its tendency to not establish roots as it went as Alexander conquered leaving only small footprints behind to rule after each conquest. Bent on conquest and expansion far more than on settling and establishing itself. So no wings might symbolise a focus on establishing provincial power by spreading slowly and surely without so much focus on ever new conquest or expansion. This will be a combined Greek and Persian (Iranian?) and Babylonian (Iraqi?) power that is not focused on expansion but rather on establishing power close to home, perhaps.

    • I have to make correction to my own comment about beast forcing world to worship a copy of the Roman Empire: I was missing it that the possibly-Greece-Mesopotamia-Iran empire is the *first* beast (which comes out of the sea) while it is the second beast coming out of the land that causes the world to serve the copy of the first beast. I must revise some of my thinking on this. It is the *second* beast that forces the world to be in the service of the image of the revived (back to life) part of the first beast. So maybe that means an image will be made of the bear part which is the animal which hibernates and revives. Persia of Cyrus did revive after the Greek overthrow when it became the Parthian Empire. So it seems it may be an image of an Iranian part of the new Empire that will be idolatrously worshipped rather than an image of the Roman Empire. Completely blows my views apart. Thank you Marianne for the helpful clarification of such important prophecies.

  6. Maybe it is a combination of Greek and Persian and Babylonian empires but it could just be a combination of their characteristics. Speed and ferocity of conquest and spread like a leopard. Strength and fearsomeness like a lion. Strength and slowness but sureness like a bear. Minus extreme speed of conquest of wings. But still a combined force more awful than one such past empire on its own.

    • What characterised Cyrus and Persia as like a bear? They weren’t as quick in conquering as Alexander and the Greeks but were inclined to let their conquests live and carry on as before rather than destroying cultures to replace them quickly with their own perhaps as Alexander did quick, agile and lethally ferocious like a leopard (with wings!). Persia under Cyrus was almost friendly to its conquests. Alexander certainly wasn’t. So the new empire will have some parts like Alexander and some like Cyrus. Cuddly elements and ferocious elements. Then there is the lion element like Nebuchadnezzar full of absolute power and sovereignty and only establishing its own power rather than allowing local powers to develop under it. This too is an element of this new power.

  7. 1. Babylon would be an END TIME GREAT NATION (Rev 17,18; Isa 13:6).
    2. Babylon would have a huge seaport city within its borders (Rev 18:17).
    3. The Great City Babylon is the home of a world government attempt (Rev 17:18).
    4. The Great City Babylon would be the economic nerve center of the world (Rev 18:3).
    5. Babylon would be the center of a one world Luciferian religious movement (Jer 51:44).
    6. Babylon would be the center for the move to a global economic order (Rev 13:16).
    BABYLON THE NATION
    1. Babylon would be the youngest and greatest of the end time nations (Jer 50:12).
    2. Babylon would the QUEEN AMONG THE NATIONS (Isa 47:5,7; Rev 18:7).
    3. Babylon would be the most powerful nation in the world (Isa 47, Jer 50, 51, Rev 18).
    4. Babylon would be the HAMMER OF THE WHOLE EARTH (Jer 50:23; Rev 18:23).
    5. Babylon is called a lady, and has the symbol of the Lady (Isa 47:7-9).
    6. Babylon would be the praise of the WHOLE EARTH (Jer 51:41).
    7. Babylon is center of world trade (Jer 51:44; Rev 17:18; 18:19).
    8. Babylon would grow to be the richest nation in the world (Rev 18:3, 7, 19, 23).
    9. All nations that traded with Babylon would grow rich (Rev 18:3).
    10. The merchants of Babylon were the GREAT MEN OF THE EARTH (Rev 18:23).
    11. Babylon is a huge nation, with lands, cities, and great wealth (implied throughout).
    12. Babylon is nation “peeled”, or timbered, a land of open fields (Isa 18:2).
    13. Babylon is land quartered by mighty rivers (Isa 18:2).
    14. Babylon is a land that is measured out, and populated throughout (Isa 18:2).
    15. Babylon destroys her own land, with pollution and waste (Isa 14:20, 18:2, 7).
    16. Babylon is a land rich in mineral wealth (Jer 51:13).
    17. Babylon is a the leading agricultural nation of the world (Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
    18. Babylon is the leading exporting nation in the world (Jer 51:13; Rev 18).
    19. Babylon is the leading importing nation of the entire world.(Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
    20. Babylon is a nation filled with warehouses and granaries (Jer 50:26).
    21. Babylon is the leading INDUSTRIAL NATION OF THE WORLD (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51; Rev 18).
    22. Babylon is noted for her horses (Jer 50:37).
    23. Babylon is noted for her cattle, sheep and other livestock (Jer 50:26, 27; Rev 18:13).
    24. Babylon is noted for her fine flour and mill operations (Rev 18:13).
    25. Babylon is a nation of farmers and harvests huge crops (Jer 50:16, 26, 27).
    26. Babylon is a huge exporter of MUSIC (Rev 18:22).
    27. Babylon’s musicians are known around the world (Rev 18:22)
    28. Babylon has a huge aviation program (Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10).
    29. Babylon’s skies are filled with the whisper of aircraft wings (Isa 18:1; Jer 51:53).
    30. Babylon has a huge space industry, has “mounted up to the heavens” (Jer 51:53).
    31. Babylon fortifies her skies with a huge military aviation program (Jer 51:53).
    32. Babylon is portrayed as a leading in high tech weapons and abilities (Jer 51:53; Hab 1:6-10; implied throughout).
    33. Babylon is a nation filled with warm water seaports (Rev 18:17-19).
    34. Babylon is a coastal nation and sits upon MANY WATERS (Jer 51:13).
    35. Babylon trades with all who have ships in the sea year round (Rev 18:17-18).
    36. Babylon is nation filled with a “mingled” people (Jer 50:37).
    37. Babylon is a SINGULAR NATION founded upon OUT OF MANY, ONE (Isa 13, 47, Jer 50, 51, Hab 1).
    38. Babylon is a REPUBLIC or a DEMOCRACY, it is ruled by many counsels (Isa 47:13).
    39. Babylon’s governmental system breaks down (Isa 47:13).
    40. Babylon is bogged down with deliberations and cannot govern properly (Isa 47:13).
    41. Babylon’s leaders use astrology, seers and mystics for guidance (Isa 47:13; Rev 18:2).
    42. Babylon labored in the occult from her very inception (Isa 47:12).
    43. Babylon falls to the occult just before her end by nuclear fire (Rev 18:2)
    44. Babylon was born as a CHRISTIAN NATION (Jer 50:12).
    45. Babylon turns upon its heritage and destroys it all in the end (Jer 50:11).
    46. Babylon’s Christian leaders lead their flock astray in prophecy and salvation (Jer 50:6; implied Rev 18:2).
    47. Babylon’s Christian leaders are “strangers” in the Lord Houses of Worship (Jer 51:51).
    48. The people of Babylon are deep into astrology and spiritism (Isa 47:12; Rev 18:2).
    49. Babylon becomes the home of all antichrist religions in the world (Rev 18:2).
    50. Babylon is a nation of religious confusion (Isa 47:12-13).
    51. Babylon turns upon its own people and imprisons and slays them by millions (Jer 50:7,33; 51:35; 39; Dan 7:25; Rev 13:7; 17:6; 18:24).
    52. Babylon sets of detention centers for Jews and Christians and rounds them up for extermination (Jer 50:7, 33; 51:35, 49; Rev 17:6; 18:24).
    53. Babylon has a mother nation that remains in existence from her birth to death (Jer 50: 12).
    54. The mother of Babylon has the symbol of the LION (Dan7:4; Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38; Psalms 17:12).
    55. The mother of Babylon will rule over her daughter her entire life (Dan 7:4; Jer 50:12).
    56. The mother of Babylon will be a state of major decline as the end nears (Jer 50:12).
    57. Babylon is considered to be a lion’s whelp (Eze 38:13; Jer 51:38).
    58. Babylon will have the symbol of the EAGLE and builds her nest in the stars (Dan 7:4 EAGLE WINGS; Isa 14:13-14; Jer 51:53).
    59. Babylon turns totally antichrist and is the leading antichrist power at the end (Rev 18:2; Isa 14:4-6).
    60. THE KING OF BABYLON is called LUCIFER, the ANTICHRIST (Isa 14:4-6).
    61. The King of Babylon will rule from THE GREAT CITY BABYLON (Isa 14:4-6; Rev 17: 18).
    62. A world government entity will rise up to rule the world from BABYLON THE CITY (Isa 14; Hab 2, Rev 13, 17, 18).
    63. This world entity will be a diverse entity, different than all other ruling bodies of the world (Dan 7:7, 23).
    64. This entity will be a TREATY POWER ENTITY (Dan 7:7, 23 DIVERSE).
    65. This entity will rise up and use the military power of Babylon the nation to RULE THE WORLD (Isa 14:4-6; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13, 17).
    66. Babylon is a huge producer and exporter of automobiles (Jer 50:37; Rev 18:13).
    67. Babylon is a nation of CRAFTSMEN, experts in their trade (Jer 50, 51, Rev 18:22).
    68. Babylon is noted for her jewelry of gold and silver (Rev 18:22).
    69. Babylon is a huge importer and exporter of spices (Rev 18:13).
    70. Babylon is a huge exporter of fine marble products (Rev 18:22).
    71. Babylon is noted for her iron and steel production (Rev 18:12).
    72. Babylon has huge corporations that have bases around the world (Rev 18:23, implied throughout)
    73. Babylon is a nation of higher education and learning (Isa 47:10, implied throughout).
    74. Babylon is a nation with a GREAT VOICE in world affairs (Jer 51:55)
    75. Babylon is a VIRGIN NATION, untouched by major war (Isa 47:1).
    76. Babylon has a vast military machine (Jer 50:36; 51:30; Hab 1 & 2, Rev 13:4).
    77. Babylon will be instrumental in the setting up of Israel in the Middle East, and is the home of God’s people (Jer 50:47; 51:45).
    78. Babylon will have a major enemy to her north (Jer 50:3, 9, 41).
    79. Babylon’s enemy will lie on the opposite side of the world, over the poles (Isa 13:5)
    80. The enemy of Babylon will be a FEDERAL OF NATIONS (Jer 50:9).
    81. The enemy of Babylon will be largely Muslem in make-up (Jer 50:17; Rev 17:16; Psalms 83:5-12).
    82. The enemy of Babylon will have nuclear missiles capable of reaching Babylon (Jer 50:9, 14,; Rev 18:8, 18).
    83. The enemy of Babylon will be noted for her cruelty (Isa 13, 14, Jer 50, 51, Rev 17, 18).
    84. The enemy of Babylon will also have a huge aviation military machine (Jer 50:9, 14, Rev 18:8, 18 implied throughout).
    85. The enemy of Babylon will come into Babylon unnoticed (Isa 47:11, Jer 50:24; 51:2, 14).
    86. Babylon will be filled with her enemies brought in under the guise of peace (Dan 11:21).
    87. Babylon will have all of her borders cut off, and there will be no way of escape (Jer 50:28; 51:32).
    88. Babylon will be destroyed by nuclear fire (Rev 18:8; Implied throughout)
    89. Babylon is land vast land with huge cities, towns and villages throughout (Implied throughout).
    90. Babylon will have been a huge missionary nation for Jesus Christ (Jer 50:11; 51:7).
    91. Babylon would be a home to multitudes of Jews who leave (Jer 50:4-6, 8; 51:6, 45)
    92. The people of Babylon would not know their true identity (Jer 50:6, implied throughout).
    93. The people of Babylon would think they are God’s elect and eternal (Isa 47:7-8, Rev 18:7).
    94. The people of Babylon would enjoy the highest standard of living in the world (Rev 18:7).
    95. The people of Babylon would grow mad upon their idols (Jer 50:2, 38; Hab 2:18).
    96. The people of Babylon would go into deep sins of all kinds (Rev 18:5).
    97. The nation Babylon dwells carelessly before the Lord (Isa 47:8).
    98. Babylon becomes proud, haughty, and does not consider her end (Isa 47:7-8).
    99. Babylon deals in the occult, in sorceries and drugs (Isa 47:9, 12; Rev 18:23)
    Steward? C Best on America being Babylon the Great

    • there is a babylon, and a mystery babylon…they are different

      • They might be different but why not assume they are the same Babylon since God does not create confusion and the beast out of the sea involves Babylon. No reason then to connect them with USA or EU or Britain at all. Seven hills are mentioned about Babylon the Great but only to say it sits on such hills. The hills are an obvious allusion to Rome but the Roman Empire is merely the seat of this new emergence of Babylon which comes after the Roman Empire but builds upon it in some way. I would stick with it being the (future) land of the Euphrates and Tigris and joined with Media and Persia as Kurdish and Iranian components plus Greece.

        • Changed my mind: It seems so clearly to be Rome in Revelation 18. The city that rules over the kingdoms of the world, in a present tense written in Roman times yet still it has all that fashion luxury and sells luxury goods everywhere. Revelation 18 starts:
          “After these things I saw another angel coming down from heaven, having great authority, and the earth was illuminated with his glory. And he cried mightily with a loud voice, saying, “Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and has become a dwelling place of demons, a prison for every foul spirit, and a cage for every unclean and hated bird! For all the nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth have become rich through the abundance of her luxury.”

    • I hope you didn’t type all that out ☹️

  8. I notice the beasts all describe an empire but each is mainly built up by a single great ruler. So the lion in Daniel 7 is Babylon but it is also about the reign of Nebuchadnezzar. The bear in Daniel 7 is Persia but it is also the Persia of Cyrus. The leopard in Daniel 7 is Greece but it is also Alexander’s conquest for Greece. So too in Revelation 13 the combined beast out of the sea is the Empire but several times is referred to as an individual such as perhaps the Empire’s great ruler and conqueror.

  9. There is a link that might be from the new beast back to Daniel 7 Rome too perhaps when you see that Daniel 7 Rome has tem heads and so does this Revelation 13 beast so I always took it to indicate that the beast empire in Rev 13 starts with a modern equivalent of the Roman Empire and in particular is reminiscent of Europe with its royal houses based on the Roman Empire prince electors system. Maybe I am wrong.

  10. I do tend to agree that the Rev 13 beast is most likely being described the way it is by God so that it points to Daniel 7 and hints at it being the same nations behind it – Mesopotamia (Babylon), Iran (Persia) and Greece.

  11. One of the best videos to watch concerning these final days foretold is (click on the bluish text below to watch) :

    Daniel Unsealed – World History’s Response to Biblical Prophecy

    And of course the final leg of the countdown to the Day of the Lord at :

    http://risen-from-the-dead.forumotion.com/

    • thank you

    • Edwardpalamar said from risen-from-the dead.forumotion.com
      Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit,

      as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.

      The Second Coming of Our Lord Jesus Christ has begun!

      The Return of Our Lord is an Act of Justice, Love, and Mercy!

      The Judgment is Everlasting : Eternal Peace is coming!

      Against the falling, passing, wicked world and all its works!

      Today is Friday, February 10, 2017 A.D., the 1,613th day of the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14.

      The Civil Year of 2017 A.D. is in celebration of the

      Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Our Blessed Mother and Ever-Virgin Mary.

      Great and Holy Thursday, March 24th, 2016 A.D., is the 1,290th day of Daniel 12:11.

      Ascension Sunday, May 8, 2016 A.D., is the 1,335th day of Daniel 12:12. (cf. Malachi 4:5 below*)

      The First Year of Judgment began September 1, 2015 A.D. (the Final Day of Indiction) and

      the following First Sunday of Advent, November 29, 2015 A.D.

      The First Sunday of Advent, November 27th, 2016 A.D., the Day of the Lord, the Day of the Great Illumination,

      the Day of Triumph for the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the conversion of Russia, the end of World War III, in fulfillment of the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14 concluding December 29, 2018 A.D. (*Malachi 4:5)

      The day foretold that the world would be saved through Our Lady’s Brown Scapular and Holy Rosary.

      I received Christian baptism on Sunday, January 8, 2017 A.D., 1,987 years after baptizing Jesus in the River Jordan. (JA Note: So you baptized Jesus Christ 1987 years ago. Then you are the oldest living human on planet earth since Creation).

      JA Note: The Day of the Lord here above is a reference to the Antichrist, I suspect because the real Day of the Lord covers both the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments of Revelation and they will not occur until the rapture of Believers occurs (8-300 million globally) on the Day of Trumpet and then Armageddon occurs on the Day of Atonement in 2018.

      This one caught my attention: the Day of Triumph for the Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the conversion of Russia, the end of World War III, in fulfillment of the 2,300 day cleansing period of Daniel 8:14 concluding December 29, 2018 A.D. (*Malachi 4:5)
      This one is during Chanukkah week and would be the Dedication timeframe by the Messiah (Jesus Christ) for the third Temple.
      According to some the Great Tribulation began January 1, 2017 and goes to 2020 Chanukkah. the End of Sin is 2024.

      • The 2300 days seems to me to start with Antiochus Epiphanes and his ending of the Temple sacrifice around 167 BC ? and if a day is a year that puts the end of it around 2132 AD which nicely ties with Epistle of Barnabas prediction of Christ returning and starting a seventh millenium of sabbath rest 6000 years after Adam is created

        • … which leaves less than around twelve decades for Greece to regain its empire united with Iran’s Persian comeback and Iraq and Levant revived Babylonian empire – plus all those plagues of apocalypse completing first – so a lot still to happen before 2300 ‘days’ is over ( or was that 2400 ‘days’?).

        • stephen

          this is jewish calendar date 5777 after creation

          if this is correct, we are only 223 years from 6000 years

          • I tried my own calculation taking more than a decade of research and got 5877 exactly 100 years different from Anno Mundi by Jewish reckoning. It was obtained by plugging scriptural years into a spreadsheet and some years were ambiguous with gaps and contradicting texts so I was surprised to even find exactly 100 year difference. Biblical literalist chronology has a nice article in Wkipedia here but differs a lot from mine which I think I have made more rational and combined with other canonical scriptures from Ethoptic canon like Book of Jubilees. Wikipedia article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_literalist_chronology still interesting for comparison.

          • so yes but looks to me like it is only 123 years

          • Actually I dont have the exact numbers on hand right now but there is an error of about some 200 plus years in the rabbinical counting having to do with the destruction of the first Temple. Technically we are already in the year 6000. It is time. You

        • The beginning of the 2,300 days of Daniel 8:14 coincides with the beginning of the 1,290 and 1,335 day periods of Daniel 12:11 & 12, respectively, specifically, September 12, 2012 A.D. There has been a key given to open unto that date, specifically Quatrain #95 of the fourth book of Centuries by M. de Nostradamus : my brother’s lapsing into coma on February 12, 2009 A.D. unto his passing.

      • Actually both Adam and Moses are resurrected, too.

  12. Marianne,

    I don’t know if you would be interested… but I am looking for someone to talk to and pray with about some issues that are going on. Very hard times in my family. Someone who understands the spiritual side of things and from what I have read, you seem like you definitely understand. If you are interested, please let me know. God bless you.

  13. The ten toes are the same as the ten heads of the beast in Dan,. 7 an the ten heads are current Muslim nations.
    DANIEL 7 (4 beasts) Lion (England, Ephraim), Eagle wings (America, Manasseh)– Bear (Russia)– Leopard, (Europe) –Ten horned beast (Muslim nations) Three horns (Iraq, Libya, Egypt) were wrenched out to make room for the small horn (ISIS) with eyes and a mouth boasting arrogantly. (8 horn left) these Muslim will be consumed by fire. The other three three beasts will be allowed to live a little longer. These are the nations now fighting in Syria can not be denied..I guess you can consider this as WW3.

  14. Marianne, regarding year BC of year 1 Anno Mundi it seems to me to hinge on the year of the Exodus and I doubt that the Pharoah of the Exodus was Rameses the Great. I think I would put it 100 years earlier. I have calculated year 6000 AM will be around 2132-2133 AD using scriptures of the Ethoptic canon. It seems most reasonable to me but that was when I knew of less sources and of no other opinions and if I calculated it today I might interpret some scriptures differently such as historical events foretold in the Book of Enoch.

  15. Could this combined Greek-Mesopotamian-Iranian empire to come be a fulfillment of Joel chapter 2 too? Jesus alluded to such prophecy being fulfilled (just) before His return alluding to the sun turning to sackcloth and moon to blood. Medes are part of the Joel scourge and these are said to have the Kurds as their counterpart and the bear beast is the Medes and Persians, is it not.

  16. All seems to be AFTER the apocalyptic global scale catastrophes of the Seals and Woes and Trumpets and I don’t get the impression from how Revelation describes them coming from Heaven above that they have happened as it describes yet.

    • stephen

      I think the seals have been open for a long time..antichrist spirit, famine, war, pestilence, and martyrdom…as they climax in global horror, the 6th seal will occur. the wrath then happens very quickly after that

      • Those things have always existed but Revelation describes events specifically descending from heaven in sequence and it doesn’t sound like the same thing to me – but I did spend a long time contemplating events in history like the smallpox catastrophe and Conquistadors, etc., to ponder whether they might fulfill Revelation. Just that listening simply to Revelation being read (Bible Gateway has audio recording free online) it strikes me this is something unknown in history.

        • Revelation is easy to understand once you unlock the mystery of it by tying it to Leviticus 23. Revelation 12-19 is a repeat of the Tribulation Hour of Rev 6:12-17 to Revelation 11.
          Revelation 2:10. You shall have 10 days/years of Tribulation. The Day of Trumpet to Day of Atonement is called the Days of Awe. But within this set is the final year of Days of Awe. The rapture begins on the Day of Trumpet and it ends one year later on the Day of Atonement with Armageddon. This year is divided into 5 months of Trumpet Judgments and 7 months for the Bowl Judgments. One judgment per month. That is why these days are shortened unless you prefer 6 years of Trumpet Judgments and one year of Bowl Judgments. So which one is shorter: 2550 days or 365 days?
          On the Day of Atonement following the rapture is an global earthquake (axial poleshift) and then the first Trumpet Judgment begins on the first annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles. Then watch for the next one because there will be no electricity at the time but there will be the moon days. So watch the phases of the Moon especially the first sliver of the new moon and the full moon. This is a heads -up people.

          • I get that Revelation, when trumpets are mentioned, will evoke thoughts of the Feast of Trumpets for Jews but what indication does that give about timescales? Why so much confidence that there are timescales that can be discerned even though none are mentioned? Or are timescales mentioned?

            • Here are just a few reasons for date setting.
              1) Aleph-Tav in Genesis 1:1 and Lamid Aleph-Tav in Genesis 1:1 ((4000 year and 6000 year)
              2) 4th day events ==Genesis 1:14
              3) Sabbaths (Gen 1:14; Leviticus 23)
              4) Years (Genesis 1:14; Leviticus 25–Shemitah and Jubilee years especially Lev 25:20-23)
              5) Isaiah 61:1-2 = Leviticus 25
              6) Zeph 1:14-16 Day of the Lord is a Day of Trumpet and Alarm
              7) Psalms 17=1917; Psalms 47=1947; Psalms 48=1948; Psalms 67=1967; Psalms 114-118=2014-2018.
              8) Deut 24:5–1 year and Last year
              9) John 6:40, 44, 54 1 year and last year
              10) Daniel’s timeline 1260 days, 1290 days, 1335 days
              11) The Day the Flood began (2nd month and 17th day–November)
              12) Revelation 2:10 10 days of Tribulation =Ten years of tribulation
              13) Haggai 2 (9th Month and 24th Day) Chanukkah Eve (December 24th, 2016–Jardalkalatgmail.blogspot.com)
              14) Psalm 90:4; II Peter 3:8 –A Day = 1000 years as 1000 years = a day.
              15) Genesis 6:3 And man shall live 120 years/Jubilees (2017; Psalm 117). Every 20 Jubilees = 1000 years. 120 Jubilees = 6000 years. Adam to Exodus 50 Jubilees; Exodus to 2017 = 70 Jubilees. 50+70=120 Jubilees.
              16) According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord is a one year event and covers both the Trumpet and Bowl Judgments of Revelation– 3 places where a day = a year (Isaiah 34:8; Isaiah 61:2; Isaiah 63:4). It is the year of the “Lord’s vengeance” or God’s wrath (Revelation 6:17).
              17) Numbers 14:34 where a day = a year
              18) Ezekiel 4:6 where a day = a year.
              19) Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth shall pass away, … but of that Day and Hour no man knoweth not even the angels in Heaven. Day and hour refers to Leviticus 23 (Passover, Pentecost, Day of Trumpet, Day of Atonement)
              20) I Thess 5:1 Seasons= Leviticus 25/23= Gen 1:14
              21) 38 years (Deut 2:14)
              22) 40 years/Jubilles (Psalm 95:10)
              23) 50 years/Jubilles Matthew 1:17 may indicate around 50 years
              24) 70 years (Psalms 90:10)/Jubilles
              25) 80 years (Psalms 90:10)
              26) 100 years (Genesis 15:13, coupled with Gen. 15:16)
              27) 3 days of darkness–History repeats itself.
              28) 7th Trumpet Judgment (Rev 11:15)
              29) Reve 12:1 Day of Trumpet in the Jubilee year
              30) New Moon (first sliver of the new moon)
              31) 11th month 24th day (Zech 1)
              32) latter day, last day (Jn 6:40, 44, 54), that day, Wrath of God, Fire of God (Day of the Lord). According to Isaiah, the Day of the Lord is a one year event and covers the Trumpet Judgments for the first 5 months and then the Bowl Judgments for the last 7 months and is tied to Psalm 118=2018 as the year. Also tied to this verse is Deut 24:5. The Day of the Lord begins on the Day of Trumpet with the rapture/gathering/resurrection and ends on the Day of Atonement with Armageddon. This is known as the Days of Awe.
              Other Verses pointing to the date. Psalm 83;Ezekiel 38- 39; Luke 17:33-37; Rev 19:17; Rev 20: 4, 7,8-15; Rev 21:1. Shalom

              Now about the Sabbaths and how they are tied to Yeshua/Jesus. Matthew, Mark, Luke says the Son of Man is L-rd even of the Sabbath. That means to me that everything occurring with Yeshua will occur on a Sabbath, 4th day, Rosh Chodesh (first sliver of the new moon), full moon, or the 7th day of Feast of Tabernacles.
              Yeshua was conceived in 4 BC at Chanukkah (Festival of Lights and Feast of Dedication) on a Sabbath either on Dec. 15th or the 22nd. Born in the Fall on either Yom Teruah (Day of Trumpet) or on the first Annual Sabbath of Feast of Tabernacles in 3 BCE. Messianics teach Feast of Tabernacles. He was circumcised on the 8th day (A new beginning) on the Second Annual Sabbath. According to Stellarium (free Astronomy program) and Torahcalendar.com, He was born on Yom Kippur in 3 BC (Stellarium -4). He began His ministry in 27 CE and baptized either in January (Michael Rood Chronological Gospels) or Day of Atonement (Biblical Astronomy article). Entered Jerusalem on a donkey in 29 CE (Shemitah year) on Abib 10 (Saturday), Month 1. Died on Passover (not a Sabbath) on Wednesday (4th day and 4th candle called the Christ candle or servant candle of the Menorah (7 candles)) (each candle represents a day and 1000 years). Buried on Thursday (Wednesday night by the time the first three stars came out which starts a new day). Possibly the men came out of the tomb when the stars had appeared and closed the tomb after the stars came out. This Day was the Feast of Unleavened Bread Annual Sabbath. Rose 72 hours later at the beginning of the Feast of First Fruits.

              • I get the impression Jesus said He is lord of the Sabbath because He is the Son of Man from before He came as God’s top man and this is to explain His authority to apply the Sabbath not just to Jews but to ‘man’ (by saying “the Sabbath is meant for man, not man for the Sabbath”) and to say it is ‘for’ man implying all can benefit from it by God’s intention and The Son of Man’s authority.

                • You are correct. Jardalkalatgmail.blogspot. c o m has more information on the Sabbaths. Even signs in the sun, Moon, and Stars are happening on the Sabbaths. 4 so far for the year. I had 20 last year. 9 the year before 6, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1. I hope for 20-40 this year. Tonights is a triple hitter.

  17. You are totally right Marianne this whole beast is basically Islamic.

  18. Not just Islamic but Shia Islamic.

  19. Regarding where we are in years Anno Mundi, using sacred texts like those of the greater Ethoptic canon, Ken Johnson has done very good quality and comprehensive work which I like (biblefacts.org). I recommend his books and translations.

  20. Strange about Greece, from a present day point of view. A bit silly to speculate perhaps but maybe a situation like a migrant situation (especially with a Shia country growth in power and developing of Empire) will draw them into this new empire in some way, if Greece is going to be the leopard major component of it. We don’t know for sure how long there is for it all to develop (if indeed it is still future, which seems most likely to me).

  21. So maybe the apocalyptic catastrophes must happen first unless they have happened already.

  22. After consideration it seems the wings are the wisdom or genius of the conquerors at the height of their success. Nebuchadnezzar’s was stripped when he became mad (Daniel 4).

    • Alexander had three philosophers for pairs of wings, perhaps: Socrates, Plato and his personal tutor Aristotle. Not bad for genius to set you on your way to conquest.

  23. The four beasts foreshadowed the four empires that would follow. The first beast is obviously Ancient Babylon but it also foreshadows America. One can continue this train of thought onward to conclude that the last beast will be the revived Holy Roman Empire. The wings were plucked from Babylon and they are in the process of removing them from America. This should cause us to wonder what do the wings represent??

    • Correction: Americas partnership with England…their brotherhood disentegrates which could form the modern Babylon.

  24. The lion is England…in Revelation Babylon the Great is an nation of seaports… Saudi Arabia is not. Bad interpretation. Sorry.

  25. To me it is a relief to find this first beast is NOT USA or England or even the EU. As for the second beast though, it is not clear what that will be except it comes out of the land, not sea. It makes an image of the first beast’s part that nearly went but came back so maybe that will be an image of Persia. It doesn’t seem to be an image of Rome like I was told by a politically zealous friend years ago. Rethink still going on.

    • If America follows the pattern of Babylon in its prosperity and its continuing treachery and immorality it will be the lion without wings and Russia will be the bear… They will together form an alliance which is probably what our leaders are planning on.

  26. But this will all be in a post-apocalyptic world.

  27. Whatever the wicked leaders of America are plotting they will not aucceed. Jesus will triumph for those who love Him and those who are born again. I say along with David ” Deliver me O Lord from the evil man preserve me from the violent man; which imagine mischiefs in their heart continually are they gathered together for war. They have sharpened their tongues like a serpent adders poison is under their lips. Keep me O Lord from the hands of the wicked; preserve me from the violent man who have purposes to overthrow my goings. Psalm 140: 1-4

  28. The wings are the means of escaping the whipped up sea in which these empires emerge. Look at the late eight and all the seventh centuries BC in Wikipedia, say, and see what it looked like for the four winds to whip up the sea – constant rebellions and sackings all around the civilised world. Nebuchadnezzar was able to use wit and wisdom to rise above it. He married a Mede and so escaped being subject to overthrow by the warlike Medes. This is such a picture of coming times because again the empire will rise out of the sea – the warring rebellious nations.

  29. Thanks again Marianne, here is how I’ve summed up this new prophesied penultimate empire:
    Our Lord Jesus, by revelation from His God and our God, has left us in Revelation 13 a powerful sequel to the prophecy given to Daniel in Daniel 7. The angel showed Daniel that the lion in Daniel’s prophetic vision was Babylon and the bear was to be Persia and the leopard was to be Greece so when God showed the future Beast empire as a mixture of leopard and the lion and the bear it is quite clear what this means. When the beast empire is shown coming out of the sea this too recalls the same detail in Daniel’s prophecy of the lion, Babylon (Neo Babylonian empire led by Nebuchadnezzar), coming out the sea stirred up previously by the four winds of Heaven. The nations around the world were in turmoil as Nebuchadnezzar took power after decades of rebellions and scourges and city sackings all over the world (Scythians, Medes, Egyptians and the like all scourging the earth). In the Revelation vision it is a sea not said to be whipped up like this but with Satan as a dragon newly cast out from Heaven standing there on the shore of the sea. This Revelation beast combines those empires as one combined empire. The terrifying reality worse perhaps than the world-ending turmoil of the decades before Nebuchadnezzar’s rise is that the dragon will be furious having been forced down to the earth out of heaven and will vent that fury like never before by how totally he gives his power to this new beast.

  30. These empires of lion (Neo) Babylon and bear Media-Persia and leopard Macedon-Greece did not last much more than 50 to 100 years at their height with each having a few successive ‘kings of kings’ (Persia having four) with reigns of up to a few decades on average. So the new combined future Beast too might only last fifty to a hundred years perhaps before it is to be conquered by Christ. So my speculation is that it might appear within fifty to a hundred years from now. Perhaps less, say a few decades from now: Just pure guesswork with a bit of research behind it. I’m basing this guess on the possibility my own chronology of an approx 2132 AD beginning of sixth milennium. If the rabbinic date of the sixth millenium around 2232 AD is correct that would put my guess of the emergence of this empire forward to perhaps over a century from now. If my own estimate is right and my guess is right that the apocalyptic events preceding its rise have yet to happen then those terrifying events could maybe happen in the 2030s, this empire emerging not long afterwards when Satan has been cast down. The rabbinic Anno Mundi would make me tend to think the early 22nd century. (Lots of guesswork I must emphasise and acknowledge.) Horrible thought but with redemption in sight it has a silver lining.

  31. Seems from chapter 10 of Revelation that this Beast empire mixing the ancient three empires will arise when there is a temple and Jerusalem is powerful and two witnesses are martyred by the Beast as it rises – apparently in Jerusalem where the temple is. So it does not look imminent but would be obviously arising if it has this set of signs to show believers it has come, including sign of these martyrs rising and ascending to heaven and a great earthquake in Jerusalem followed by hail storm.

    • correction – chapter 11, not chapter 10, tells of the rise of the beast empire and two witnesses killed by it in Jerusalem

  32. Revelation 11 is key to knowing whether its apocalyptic events are happening because there is clear reference to the literal city of Jerusalem (“where our Lord was crucified”) and there is mention of a literal, physical temple there: It is at this time that the Beast Empire appears; when two martyrs it slays will rise from the dead in full view and ascend before an earthquake splits the city into three. It all seems literal in this passage. If this hasn’t happened then the following chapters have yet to happen too. So since a literal, physical Jerusalem Temple is not built with Gentiles trampling its outer court like chapter 11 relates it is pretty clear we are not seeing yet the events of the following chapters and the Beast is still to arise as a world empire of the order of those ancient world empires. I reckon decades of Empire rule have not yet started and will not start until that Jerusalem Temple is built and we will see it rise when the two martyrs rise.

  33. The Beast is primarily a leopard. It has a lion as head and bear as feet but primarily it is a leopard. The angel told Daniel (Daniel 7) the leopard is the empire of Greece. Look at how the original leopard grew. The Ancient Greek Empire took shape by alliances between cities (perhaps the leopard’s spots?) that happened quickly led by one ruler Philip of Macedon and it may well be that the new Greece Empire will form as alliances are quickly made between cities while maybe Iran (the bear) and Iraq (the lion) are only joined with later. It might be like the first such empires where it took two or three reigns in succession to fully form as other empires are either conquered or united through alliances and marriages by these successive rulers. It might be the leopard’s first powerful rising ruler forms alliances as before then fights major battles and later successors bring in the lion as head and the bear as feet. All over decades like before. An indicator it is happening is Rev 11 where there is rule over Israel and Jerusalem has a Temple.

  34. So Marianne, you do a great job and continue doing it of packing up those thoughts and bringing them home and setting others an example of it. Revelation is what Christ says so this applies: (2 John verse 9) “Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son.” We have to keep reigning in our thoughts and keeping them if they are in line with the teachings of Christ (and the revelation of Him within us and hope of future revelations of Him) and dropping them when they are contrary. (1 Peter 1:13-15: ” Wherefore having girded up the loins of your mind, being sober, hope perfectly upon the grace that is being brought to you in the revelation of Jesus Christ, as obedient children, not fashioning yourselves to the former desires in your ignorance, but according as He who did call you holy, ye also, become holy in all behaviour,”)

    • stephen

      thanks for all your contributions….people may not realize it, but some of my posts come from new thoughts or issues that commentators like yourself bring up. so this website reflects other people’s ideas as well, and not just mine

  35. Marianne, indeed but you filter out the wayward and publish the more sober ones you are ‘bringing home’, which is very helpful and faithful

  36. So this Beast will arise when Jerusalem has a Temple and the Beast will reach a pinacle of power where for a short time it has power of all the world. How long it takes to reach this maturity might, I think, be similar to the time the original beasts of Neo Babylon onwards took which was rapid at first but prolonged over decades to reach full power. But what will happen between now and then to indicate the approach of it? I think it is still to come the revelation in Revelation 9. A third of all mankind being killed by forces of evil originating at the Euphrates with the loosing of powerful spirits bound there. Maybe we have it beginning with the Iraq violence we see but it will grow, it seems to be saying, until it affects the whole world enough to kill a third of it – billions. Evil apocalyptic torments will lead up to this but maybe then there will be a high chance of not surviving to see the awful rise of the Beast.

  37. Maybe this Rev 9 violence from the Euphrates preceding the rise of the Beast will be the Armageddon foretold by Enoch and Ezekiel. If so it would explain the subsequent growth in power of Jerusalem and its gaining of a Temple. It might fit with Armageddon in Ezekiel’s prophecy.

  38. I don’t think any of this will be happening until chapter 8’s third of trees being burned up and all grass being burned up ( all grass on Earth I would take it).

  39. Maybe Islam is incidental and maybe democracy is more characterstic since the beast is like a leopard (like the Ancient Greece Empire) but only has mouth like lion and feet like bear (Iraq and Iran). The leopard seems the main component and with dragon’s power (Satan). I think what we see in present IS is a hint at the dragon power it will have but we are not at a stage of seeing it yet but some components might be forming decades before the full manifestation. What we see is chaos and enmity against Israel so this might be chapter 9 prerequisites forming which might put us before chapter 8 or at its start with the four angels at the Euphrates about to be released after a period of natural massive catastrophes some in answer to the prayers of the people of God (chapter 8 beginning). Out of it chapter 9 will grow and might result in Armageddon enemies of Israel attacking but Ezekiel 38 fulfilled with their demise preparing a way for Temple to be built as Jerusalem is strengthened by victory from God, preparing way for chapter 11. So I would conclude Islamic enemies of Israel supported by Russia as in Ezekiel 38 could rise up led by the four spirits released at the Euphrates (after a period of huge disasters burning up trees and grass – sun turning dark in smoke of it – like Joel 2) but war heightened in Megiddo (Enoch and Ezekiel) and all these turned on eachother to their destruction and leaving Israel to rise and Jerusalem to be dominant with a Temple but still so corrupt that saints try to flee it in adversity hence called Egypt spiritually in Rev 11. By this time the Beast will have risen with Satan empowering it so it kills the two witnesses in Jerusalem.

  40. I tend to think the sixth seal is probably to haapen next and soon: Sun turning to sackcloth because of some massive apocalyptic event (Rev 6). Then perhaps soon after that (after a pause with protective spiritual sealing of the saints) the next seal (seventh, Rev 8) being a burning up of the third of the trees and all of the grass. So the Beast might be forming at early stages but it might be some time before it has its time of power (Rev 11 and 13).

  41. We could be seeing democratic US plus Kurds plus Iraq starting a new empire. The leopard might be a democratic force since democracy started with ancient Greece. We might see an alliance with Iran too as time goes on. The sign of it being the beginning of The Beast would be firstly a big apocalyptic catastrophic event including an earthquake darkening the sun with say dust or the like then a pause then an apocalyptic burning of trees and grass by another huge event then a huge scourge from the Iraq and Iran area spreading worldwide killing a third of the world’s population including perhaps the Armageddon of prophecy against Israel but failing and leaving Israel intact and hugely encouraged and everyone left in fear of God. The Beast would appear out of this as Satan gives an alliance of western forces plus Iraq and Iran his full power.

  42. Hi Marianne, check out my Book, The True Understanding of The End-Times, Re – Israel and the Church, author is Lance Morgan. I explain several things in it, the rise of the antichrist, the when and where, how he will attack Israel after his covenant with the Muslims/Islamists (Dan.9;27). the rapture, its timing and who shall be in it or left behind….the war on Jerusalem, the Great Tribulation, etc etc…these arose out of a great vision i had from the Lord of the antichrist which caused me to do an in-depth study, for about 7 yrs. some of what i see you write here are similiar to what is in my book. You may get the book at WestBow Press Website.

  43. Main body will be the leopard. That was originally Macedonia. Philip of Macedon and Alexander. Revelation 11 shows it comes out of an abyss. Abyss can be described as when a political state plunges into one in terms of political chaos. Look at Macedonia today. Maybe it is teetering so it can rise. Albania is mainly Muslim too. Joining in future with the lion and bear?

  44. And those 4 horses that run with 4 seals – Islam. See the Arab Rebelliom Flag. White. Red. Black. Green (Greek word translation pale. The False Prophet’s crew built an abomination on the Temple Mount.

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