Woman, the Sky, and her Wilderness x 2


A timeline for the tribulation?

Why does she flee there twice?

Just my thoughts.

I will revise with good comments and critiques

Reference for astronomical configurations  (Doug Maxwell):


Revelation 12

The Woman, Child and Dragon

1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

Possible interpretations

Virgin Mary

Natural Israel, with 12 tribes

Church or spiritual Israel, with 12 apostles

Alignment of Virgo constellation with other planets, Sun, Moon and Jupiter, which occurred on September 23, 2017, the stars would involve neighboring constellations at that time, especially Leo

2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth.

moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars.

Possible interpretations

Jesus born about September 3, BC?

Historical Mary but symbolic


3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads.

Possible interpretations

Ancient Rome, Herod

Satan, Antichrist, the “Beast”

Nibiru solar system, sun , red planet, with 7 planets, 10 moons


4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born.

Possible interpretations

Stars are fallen angels coming to earth to create chaos and wickedness, think of who is in power at this time.

Herod killed all newborns up to 2 years old in Bethlehem, trying to kill child

Satan inspired Herod

Nibiru system near Virgo constellation in 2017

clip_image006Nibiru near Virgo at some time point, currently it is in Orion


5 She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne.

Possible interpretations

Child is Jesus, who is male, and ascended into heaven

Child is Bride, but usually Bride is female

Child is Church

Child is represented by Jupiter, the King planet


6 Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days.

Possible interpretations

Historical Church goes into hiding after ascension, this did not happen, especially not for 1260 days

Nibiru system with Virgo alignments 2017 represents the calendar start time of the Bride going into her secret place (Psalms 91) for 1260 days, from 9/23/17 to about 3/4/21, as the War in heaven starts.

Bride sees the danger and recluses herself from the worldly church in prayer.

As in the parable of 10 virgins, only half were ready, as only they had their oil. They got this by spending time in the secret place, while the others didn’t.

So the rest of the Church is NOT in the wilderness at this time. It is still in the world.


Satan Thrown Out of Heaven

7 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought,

8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer.

9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Possible interpretations

Once cast down, this starts the tribulation

The antichrist should appear on the scene about this time.

I see no astronomical application here.

So Satan is Satan.

AS each fallen angel is defeated, it gets cast down to earth, creating anger and chaos.

We can see this now. Violence has increased.

10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death.

Possible interpretations

Saints, both in the world and the Bride as well, have been battling the enemy, and some have lost their lives in the war. They are martyrs, and go under the altar in heaven. (Rev 8, 9, 14, 16)

12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.”

Possible interpretations

Angel would not rejoice at woe coming to the earth.

But the Bride has been taken to heaven, and she rejoices at her rapture and rescue.

The Woman Persecuted

13 Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child.

14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent.

Possible interpretations

Spiritual Israel, the Church that was not ready before, and Natural Israel are now persecuted

Church now flees into the secret place, hopefully, or saints escape areas of persecution to find safe havens.

Natural Israel flees from enemies, some say to Petra, or maybe the USA, or another place open to Jews. The earth helps the Jews.

15 So the serpent spewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood.

Possible interpretations

Satan is the false accuser of the brethren. He is spreading slander to destroy Spiritual and Natural Israel

He is also spreading slander against those in leadership trying to restore righteousness. This is a relentless flood.

16 But the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the flood which the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to make war with the rest of her offspring, who keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Possible interpretations

Righteous nonbelievers come to the aid of :

Jews, who have the commandments of God


Christians, who have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

There will always be those who are stuck in the world, stay asleep and never find the secret place. The will suffer the most. Let us pray they endure to the end.

So summary:

9/23/17 – 3/4/21 wilderness of Bride, war in heaven

Rapture of Bride

3/4/21  – 9/23/2024  wilderness of Church, tribulation, seal 1 – 6

Wrath of god starts at 6th seal,  Rev 6, Matthew 24

2024 – 2027 Wrath, which may be shortened, p;us restoration of earth

2027 is 2000 years after birth of Yahshua / Christ in 3 BC


Final Thoughts

So there are 2 visits to the wilderness, but they are different groups


First the Bride goes, as she is the Wise Virgin. Then she gets raptured.

Then later, the Foolish Virgins, finally awake, go there as they are being persecuted.

Jesus said to watch the signs in the sun, moon and stars.

The Nibiru system and the Virgo alignment in 2017 simulating Rev 12 may possibly just be a signal that events are about to begin. (This is just a theory so far)

It could also be that this “sign” does not signal an actual start time, but there is an unknown gap in time, between it and the beginning of tribulation events.

It may just signal that we are in the proper season for events to begin.

If this is a correct date, and the antichrist comes to power, then there will be a covenant with many.

The scripture does not say covenant with Israel, but with many, which may mean an alliance with enemies of Israel against Israel. Any peace talks are deception. Also, Israel may be involved, as the sacrifices and offerings are mentioned.

Daniel 9


He will confirm a covenant with many for one `seven.’ In the middle of the `seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing [of the temple] he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

Also, for the antichrist to have real power, he would have to control America as well.

It seems like Donald Trump has created a block until he leaves office.

This may be why there is such a flood of slander, anger, and hate against President Trump.

Trump’s presence is delaying the devil’s plans.

If so, then let us be vigilant and follow events around us closely, and find our way to the secret place.

By next March, 2021, we will see if this is a correct viewpoint.

If not, I will re-evaluate Revelation chapter 12.

Please feel free to contribute to this important topic with your comments.

Related posts:

Dream Multiple Nukes

Signs in the Heavens


Nibiru 2

Nibiru 4

The Final Days You Tube Channel

Dream – Banks March 3rd

16 Responses to “Woman, the Sky, and her Wilderness x 2”

  1. Last Days to repent and battle the enemy. Days ahead will define the rapture as for the rapture before it happens God will send a big sign and revival in the spirit and starting in the House of God

  2. http://endtimepilgrim.org/bozflight.htm

  3. 2067 minus ‘times plus time and a half’ (2500 years) is the year Malachi died. End of prophets beginning of church.
    2067 minus Times of Gentiles (2000 years) is the year Menehem invaded the 2nd Temple and murdered all the priests, ending the Temple Era, beginning the Times of the Gentiles.
    2067 minus Days of Noah (120 years) is the reestablishment of the state of Israel.
    1897 – Zion Conference
    1917 – Balfour Declaration, Jerusalem in Gentile hands (Allenby captured it in Dec, 1916), end of Ottoman Empire
    1947 – Partition of Palestine, founding of modern Israeli state
    1967 – 6 Day War, Israel in physical possession of jerusalem for first time in 3000 years
    2017 – Trump moves US Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. Jerusalem offically recognized as capital of israel (as it should be).

    The modern calendar is off by about 3 years. So 2000 years since Christ has come and gone but His return has been delayed by 70 years. Israel was put in “timeout” by God for 70 years because of national sins and rebellion (no temple/statehood by the hands of Assyria and Babylon). God said He would restore the years He took away. From Jesus birth until Menehem’s rebellion was 70 years. So the Times of the Gentiles begins in AD67.

    The wilderness has been several places. Sphinx was lion with wings of eagle. Babylon had the same critter as a mascot. William 1, first king of England had same on coat of arms.
    Modern US was founded by England in a wilderness out of 12 Crown colonies (Caroline split later north and south – prophetic – The US civil war was between north and south and south Carolina started the war.
    England remained the LIon and the US chose the Eagle.
    Clothed with the Sun – The sun never set on the British empire, and does not set of the modern American empire.

    The moon under her feet – Only the US has left footprints on the moon. The first Lunar landing module was named the Eagle.
    When Abraham left Ur it was the center of moon worship. When Joshua crossed the Jordan against Jericho, it was the center of moon worship. When Israel marched around Jericho on the 7th day the walls fell flat and each man *walked up over it* and took the city.
    The second US president, Thomas Jefferson, stated the US Marines to combat Islam’s sea piracy. Islam came from moon worship and uses the crescent moon as part of its emblem. The British defeated the Ottoman empire in WW1 and the US is the only reason Islam has not been able to conquer the modern world.

    Now about Covid. This fake pandemic has stopped the Moslem invasion of the West. Everyone is locked down in their own country.

    The rabbis say we are in the year corresponding to Duet 32:20.
    God made everyone to wear mask in public to hide his face from us. God uses modern cultural references sometimes. 911 is the number called in the US for emergencies. 9/11 was the day of the destruction of the Twin Towers in NYC. 20/20 vision means you can see clearly in modern US culture. It refers to the results of the common vision test. However, with people walking around with masks on no one can clearly see your face. Read the verses preceding (Duet 32:17-19).

    This section of Dueteronomy is called the Song of Moses. Remember Moses was the only man of his time that God spoke to “face to face, as a friend.” When Moses came down from the mountain after speaking with God, his face glowed so much that the people were afraid to look upon him and made him wear a veil (mask).

  4. Marianne, I would encourage you to read this article: https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-woman-of-revelation-12

    and then read Micah chapter 4.

    The church/Israel goes to the field (America) and then to Babylon (wilderness)

    Song of Solomon says that Jesus will go to Babylon to bring back the church/Israel from the wilderness and marry them.

    God bless.

    • It is a fusion metaphor-I forgot to mention that we are not told where Mary and Joseph fled to after the resurrection of Christ and 70 A.D.. Were they still alive when Rome destroyed Jerusalem? I think they maybe fled to two places: Egypt again and then possibly somewhere else. It would probably be wise to do more research on this. God bless.

      • rainynights88

        I guess that is a good interpretation also.

        However I think Joseph was dead by that time. at the cross, Jesus asked John to take care of his mom.

        So since John stayed in the Mediterranean area, I assume Mary did as well.

  5. Isaiah 24 : 6 Curse to all, earth’s inhabitants are burned up. And very few are left.
    10 Ruined city lies desolate. Entrance to every house is barred.
    No Wine.
    12 city is left in ruins.
    13 on earth , to all nations.
    22 kings on earth punish after MANY DAYS
    23 moon abashed and Sun ashamed
    24 LORD will reign on mount Zion and in Jerusalem.
    Population decrease started now ?
    Entrance to house closed for relatives and friends.
    Cities lock down, ruins in future ? Due to quarantine curfew.
    22 after MANY days means ? Not many years

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