You cannot have both Muhammad and Jesus
The hardest thing one can do, I think, is to give up, and turn away from, everything you have ever believed in. It tears at the spirit, but it can also be a healing experience. Acknowledged is the respect Islam has for Jesus. But Muslims have to search their souls, and seek only God, not man, for the truth. Muhammad’s teachings are so opposite those of Jesus, that there is no way to follow both, in one religion.
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Also, do you want peace, or war? Do you want truth, or lies?
You cannot have peace, when the world is full of lies. So, seek the truth, and find the peace.
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Sometimes a Picture Really is Worth a Thousand Words.
This is a graphic presentation, contrasting the teachings of Muhammad and those of Jesus. The content will look familiar to most people, but it is time to make a decision, while one still can. It is not time to complain, or defend personal or group views, but to seek what God wants. The end times are here, and both Muslims and Christians, as well as the rest of the world, can even sense the future is not good. Destruction and war is ahead.
I am not implying that “ALL Muslims are alike,” but pointing out what their Quran teaches, even if they do not follow these teachings. But ALL Muslims are human, and do want to be happy and secure.
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Sincere intent behind the presentation.
I love the Muslims. I want to help them.
Many people in this world are actually seeking God and his truth, and they will find it. A gentle message will be sufficient. Others will not find God, unless a disaster happens, or a strong message is sent. I try to balance messages, so that there are some of both, because I care about people, even if they hate me, or want me dead.
I love people. I do not want anyone to be destroyed by the wrath of God in the future. I seek revelation for them, to help them avoid the pain and destruction.
The evil spirit of offense is already out there, to create chaos, war, and destroy everyone. I am not the source of it, but I am pointing it out.
The purpose of this, or any post of mine, is to stimulate people to think. There are many in danger of being destroyed, if they do not wake up.
Do I remain silent, when people could be helped? Do I ignore what is happening in the world? Do I turn a blind eye, or say something? I want everyone to seek God, not man, and find out his will for them and this earth. God does not want anyone to perish.
We all have to evaluate what we have been taught, in whatever religion we may have been raised in, and find God’s real truth, and reject the errors. It will break mental and spiritual bondage if we do.
I have had to do this, so I am sympathetic toward others who must also do this.
The videos
It is not a time to justify personal positions, and get caught up in doctrinal differences. It is time, instead, to cling to God, seek His holy will, and turn our backs on everything negative and evil.
We will have to face God someday soon, who will judge us on our choice. Our religious leaders will not be there to defend us. We will be on our own. We will either suffer, or rejoice, for our decisions.
What is really in our hearts right now? Are we willing to make painful decisions, and do what is right? Every religion has to make this decision, and they cannot wait any longer.
Here are the video presentations
There are 2 videos – Part I and Part II
What will be your decision?:
Videos here (PowerPoint presentations)
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Thoughts:
The Bible says you reap what you sow.
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If we sow love, we reap love.
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If we hurt others, we will be hurt.
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If we show mercy, we will receive mercy.
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If we work for peace, then we will avoid war.
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If we allow violence, we will be given violence, and not peace.
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If we allow innocent people to be harmed, and do nothing to protect them, then we will experience harm.
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If we rebel against God, He will reject us.
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If we obey Him, we will have his protection.
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If we create terror and death, we will be destroyed.
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Who will be your God/god, and what does he stand for?
What is your decision? Who will guide you – Muhammed or Jesus? You cannot have both.
I ask all Christians, everywhere, to pray for the Muslims. Their souls are in our hands. Will we abandon those who really want the peace and love of God?
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The torture, maiming, enslaving of women, and killing of human beings in the name of a religion doesn’t even make sense to a rational human being, yet the followers of the Muslim religion not only commit these crimes against humanity, but they do so with impunity. Jesus not only forgave those who killed him, but provides his boundless grace to provide a way for man who is sinful, a way to get to heaven despite his sins. Yet there are 2 billion followers of Islam that need to be given the gospel of Jesus Christ so that they can make a choice. There is no other way to get to heaven unless it is through Jesus. I feel sorry for those who reject Jesus to continue to kill in the name of their religion. Death, and the torments of hell await anyone who rejects Jesus’ offer of salvation. We live in evil times and Jesus is about to return to judge the nations someday soon. May all Muslims turn their hearts to Jesus, for there is no other God who can provide salvation for man except for HIM, Jesus Christ.
Since when did Muslims ever slaughter, kill or rape?
Those that do are not Muslims
Afsar,
This negative activity does go on. We get reports about every 2 weeks from persecuted people. There are videos on the internet with this material as well. I also understand that this activity does not represent all Muslims.
Dear Afsar
You mohammadens have been, slaughtering, killing and raping since 632 A.D. Best wake up, as you all will be held accountable at the CROSS, just like everyone else. They dont call JESUS CHRIST the “LION of JUDAH” for nothing. Even your own Q’uran states This FACT.
What will Muhammad do, all that written in the Bible [Both in new and old] and we find him accordingly. So read your Bible carefully before showing your stupidity. for better understanding follow these article-
https://faruquez.blogspot.com/2016/05/messiah-who-was-promised-messiah-jesus.html
Hi JRA
Thank you for the reinforcing comments.
blessings
marianne
Thank you for inciting hatred?
Just what I’d expect from a Typical Jewish Zionist
Thanks for your work!
Islam is the very curse [as in Genesis] as it spills over the world for subjugation. Europe is already in the process of Islamization.
In them I find the only candidate to satisfy all the description of the False Prophet from the Book of Daniel to Book of Revelation.
Life is, I’m afraid, but a means for them to eat and dispose for their power and pride.
What would be horror beyond horror than Islamic conquest of the world. 9/11 is a kid’s play thing for them. I would prefer tsunami; pandemic would be much more merciful relief. Yeah, they chant ‘the merciful One’; merciful only for those become subjugated to their power.
You know what surprises me about Christians?
You think you know everything, have you ever stopped and though, WHAT IF?
WHAT IF THE BIBLE IS A LIE?
WHAT IF HAS BEEN ALTERED?
Thats what you tell Muslims to do isnt it?
Hey, Muslims #1, what if?
Hey, Muslims #2, what if?
So hypocritical, get over yourselves
Thank you Oun,
The battle is in the mind, not the world. If we can change someone’s mind, we can help change their behavior, and eternal destiny.
blessings
marianne
Oh, but I think the battle for Christians and Jews is only in the world
IRAQ, OIL, MONEY, POWER, LEBANON, AFGHANISTAN, SYRIA, IRAN, PALESTINE, I can go on forever, literally
Back to 2000 B.H when the Zionists cut one of our prophets in half with a saw
For Muslims, the battle is only ever spiritually, that is true jihad, fighting Sha’taan, or “Satan” as the Jews and Christians copied it
Afsar,
The only true life is the spiritual one. Avoiding sin is what Jesus taught.
IN every culture, including yours, we have examples of sinful people rejecting the commandments, and peace, of God.
Wake up, Church! Antichrist is already here….so quit waiting for “him”, because he’s a “them”!!! And did any other nation get ‘raptured out’ before they were massacred or enslaved by ‘Allah’? I do not think so…….We Americans think we are too special for tribulation. But just wait a minute, it will come here, I am sad to say.
My friend Jim. It isn’t a matter of “we Americans think we are too special for tribulation”. It is a matter of who chooses Jesus as their Lord and Savior who will not go through the tribulation. If you think things are bad now, wait until you find yourself in the tribulation. All the evil taking place in this sinful world right now doesn’t come close to when the Antichrist himself is here. It is possible that he is here now, but the tribulation is yet to come. Jesus did not say in Revelation 3:10 that He would keep “we Americans” from the tribulation. He said it to those who believe in Him that He would keep “you” (Believers in HIM) from the hour of trial that is going to come upon the whole world to test those who live on earth. That’s just one reference to the Church not being here during the tribulation. There are several more. My point is, if things are this demented in our world today, it is almost too much for the human mind to conceive of what the Antichrist will do to those who are left behind to experience the horrors of the tribulation. Be ready, my friend. It is later than you think. Written in Christian love. JR
Hi Jim and JRA
I am grateful to see such passionate commitment from both of you.
My thoughts:
According to Jesus, all true believers will experience tribulation. How this is defined will be unique for each person and time period. 100 years ago, or 1000 years ago, or 2000 years ago, there was tribulation for true believers.
What we are in now, seems to have a finality about it. Those who “pass their testing” and demonstrate their faith under fire (which could be a lifetime of suffering, or a shorter period of intense suffering) should not have to go through a greater tribulation again.
Those who have failed still need to pass their test of faith, and go through the future testing. It will be a global event, and all those living will be included.
That is just how I see it. Thanks for your remarks and contributions
blessings
marianne
We have as a nation committed every error on the list. And have not done everything God has encouraged us to do. We have slain 2 million of people for whom Jesus died also. We have created terror and death upon innocent civilians. Elderly, children, women. Yes. We are beginning to reap and shall reap what we have sown.
cassandra
Hi Cassandra,
It is good to hear from you. Can you explain more where your data comes from? like What countries or certain wars? Thanks.
The USA is obviously not totally innocent of evil things. But I can see other countries just as active, or more active in this evil.
blessings
marianne
None “more active” let me assure you.
Hi Cassandra,
Yes, we have done evil in the sight of God. No one is without sin, but even the “best person” in the world who doesn’t know the Gospel of Jesus Christ is just as lost as the most evil person in the world. God created man in his own image, but he fell into sin in the Garden of Eden, and there is only one way to receive redemption and get to Heaven, and that is through Jesus’ blood that was shed for us. By His blood he offers us forgiveness and the right to be with Him in eternity. He gives us that choice. It is up to each and everyone of us to make that decision. JR
Islam is truly a religion of peace however there can be no peace until all have submitted to Islam.
Jim where does it say He keeps us from the hour of trial? Book chapter and verse please. I have in my bible several refrerence to trials but it is not something we get to avoid but rather we should rejoice when suffering from it.
1 Peter 4:12 Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:
1Peter 4:13 But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ’s sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
There is tribulation which as scripture and history has shown is ‘persecution’ of the saints for there belief in Christ. That is also the trials you will face for His sake.
Wrath however is only a day and starts when the sixth seal is opened. Said too quite specifically something of which the saints are NOT appointed unto.
Better get ready, learn His promises hold on to them in your hearts, learn to encourage one another. Hope for the best prepare for the worst. You will be there Jim
In the name of Allah, the most merciful, the most beneficient. I have never heard a Christian or a Jew ever say this:
“Islam is truly a religion of peace”
You have hit the nail on the head David
Or Daw’ood, as Muslims call him
It is true America deserves a lot of wrath. Homosexual marriage, abortion, abuse of children, love of money…However, all those who believe Christ died for all human sin will be seen by G-d as clean from sin.
Those who follow Mohamed, who enjoyed murder, and rape will not have Christ as their protector at judgement day. Those who are innocent, Christ will have mercy on those whom he will have mercy.
Islam is nothing more than another Satanic religion. It just has more followers.
Religion of peace, it is not.
Look at how poor, filthy and disgusting Pakistan is, yet they even, do not allow Homosexual marriage, stone them to death.
This is how bad USA is, there will be changes in Pakistan, wait another 5 years, they will unite with the Middle East and become a world superpower
Hi Afsar,
I do not consider Pakistan filthy and disgusting. I have friends there, and would never view them this way. They want to be happy, just like everyone else.
They have problems to overcome, but what they want are opportunities to overcome these problems, and have a good life.
Christians u r so fool and stupid. You think that the life of a great Prophet like Jesus Christ (may peace be upon him) was so inferior that it should had been sacrifice for you stupid fool sinners. and now you are free to do any great sin because Jesus gave his life for you to enjoy doing sin . (Very funny concept lol )
When ever u like hang your father also and tell the world u did this to further clean yourself from sins as the washing powder you produce by killing Jesus has expired.
You Christian think we Muslim cannot have both Muhammad (p.b.u.h) and Jesus together. This again is another big proof of your superficial knowledge of about Islam and Quran. This shows you are ignorant. According to Islam God send 124,000 prophets during different era and to different places and nations. You cannot become a Muslim unless you have faith on all these 124000 prophets. You tell us Muslims that we cannot have both Muhammad and Jesus together where as we already have 124000 prophets including Jesus and Muhammad. Islam is the only religion who has acknowledge Jesus Christ as Prophet and his Mother Mary (may peace be upon her ) to be the most pious woman ever lived on earth. It is only Islam who has acknowledge that Jesus Christ is alive and the second time coming of Jesus during the end time to kill Dajjal (Anti Christ). We Muslim clearly know who is antichrist.
A bunch of ignorant stupid people spreading terrorism in the name of Islam don’t represent Muslims neither they represent Islam or have got anything to do with Quran. These bunch of illegitimate terrorist who r funded by you stupid American to destabilize our peaceful country are busy like you doing sin in the name of Allah and Quran, like you Christian do sin in the name of Jesus as he was killed for u to do sin openly.
You Christian don’t need to give us Muslim your stupid and ignorant concepts. Just like a new edition of any book will have more latest and advance information then the old versions .Similarly Quran is the latest edition of all the Divine books send by God to his prophets. Quran is latest and Advance then all other divine books which were actually send to people of those past era. Quran is universal. Its information is unique and most of the information is like a code which can only be understood when u will have all the basic concepts clear.
When you Christian talk about Islam and Quran do thorough research otherwise your stupid superficial third degree inferior information has no effect on highly educated Muslims having clear concepts and vision about their religion and Quran .Quran is the only book which is extensively read all around the world and billions of Muslims have memorize it also. Quran is daily taught in Muslim school every day. Billions of Muslims recite it every day.
You Christian are so busy doing sin and not have time to open your Bible. Your children learn all the sexual activity (which I think is very important in your society) before they learn any thing else. Your kids have advance knowledge about how baby is produce before they complete their primary education. Your way of living has no link with bible.You don’t have proper knowledge of your bible and you write articles about Quran and Islam so strange and try to teach us Quran and Islam is bad . Go and first study your Bible then come and talk about Quran. You cannot pollute our minds.
From all the information you have on this web site shows that education system in your country has decline. No more research done. Or may be you have fake universities giving fake degrees that’s why you write all this rubbish and nonsense.
Next time try to up grade your knowledge.
Jesus is the son of God, and muslims do not believe this. Jesus is greater than Muhammed.
Jesus offered his life to pay for our sins. this was an act of divine love.
Rightttttttttttttttttttt………………………..
hi Leatherneck,
Right now, many aspects of society in every country is following the same negative path….
religion will not save them….only Jesus will.
thanks and blessings
marianne
You know you enjoy answering me more than Leatherneck, after all, he is only a false ambassador
Yes, Afsar,
You are always welcome here. Much doctrine in Islam is based on refuting confusing doctrine by the early Catholic church. I try hard on this site to show what the orginal truth was, as taught by Jesus.
You are correct Leatherneck, What I worte only reflects their way of thinking. They believe it is their duty to spread as they say, ‘the only true religion’ to all nations. There can be no peace until all have submitted to Islam only tells me they will go to great lengths to further their cause.
A true muslim may take your head should you confess the Lord Jesus. It is for them the greatest of blasphemies to confess His Sonship, cruxifiction, and resurection. It will be your fiery trial, that is what it means when the saints shall be given into his hand, you will be facing tribualtion when you are persecuted for standing on that solid Rock.
Cheers David. Do you know what Leatherneck means? I am a sheep dog, and my teeth are long and sharp.
USMC Platoon Sgt.
Semper Fi! Leatherneck and God bless.
I’m a retired chief boatswains mate, hooligans navy 1980-2004 Semper Paratus!
Oh one more thing let us not forget to pray for the house of Ishmael (God hears) and love them as Christ loves them. That they too may know Yeshua the Son of God and be saved.
hi david,
I agree. Let us all pray. It is awful to think there are about 2 billion Muslims that do not know who Jesus really is. That many people are our burden, and responsibility in these final days.
blessings
marianne
I do not have any problem with praying for peace, and I liked the Navy folks I worked around. But make no mistake, those who follow the true example of Mohamed will cut your head off, and rape your wife.
The State Department continues to allow the religion of peace into this country. I believe to help change the culture. Notice all the court cases as Islam speads. The New World Order has to get our culture changed to a point of conflict.
It’s working. Throw in illegal aliens who do not want to be American, drive drunk, murdering Americans, anchor babies, MS-13 drug dealing, jail costs, and free healthcare. Well, you got yourself a huge problem that will change American culture to no culture at all. Just like Europe.
Put me in charge before it is to late.
Hey leatherneck
write in your name and I will vote for you. Maybe what we need is a “protest group.” all the negative people give their opinions. we should too.
blessings
marianne
Islam will bring only good, and whatever is going to happen will happen
See you all in another life
Afsar,
Islam will not give you salvation. It’s not a question if something is good because the Lord say’s, Romans 3:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God
Afsar,
Here’s the only solution you have, God states, Romans 10:9 If you declare with your mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Haha Brian, guess what?
I believe that Jesus (Isa; Peace be upon him), is a very respectable human, and something that I can never be, and I believe that god WILL raise him from the dead, and I don’t know if I’ll be saved, but I know that you won’t
Afsar,
Jesus was raised from the dead. Did Muhammed rise from the dead? Jesus died on the cross for our sins for he shed his blood to save us all. Did Muhammed do that for anyone? You may not see it now but I pray that you someday experience the love of God, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Islam is a false religion. All false religions are from Lucifer. Mohamed enjoyed murder, just like Lucifer.
Marianne;
A video on this subject for those who visit this web site:
Like all other other Prophets Jesus (Isa) is a Chosen Slava of Alah:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=0a0_1187716974
Shalom;
Kittii
Hi Kitti
Thank for planting “seeds” of information on my different pages. Jesus, of course, is not a slave, but the son of God. I would recommend however, to present a video that shows the error in Muslim thinking, rather than a straight Muslim teaching without correction.
But it helps for people to understand what Muslim theology teaches, even if it is wrong (like they do not believe that Jesus was crucified – which means we are not saved through the atonement of his death). Some of what they say is true, since some is borrowed from the bible.
We also have to recognize that Muslims sincerely believe what the quran teaches, so we have to consider this in witnessing to them.
Marianne, I understand your thoughts on your religion, and I can understand everything you are trying to say
But you don’t know Islam
Have you ever sat amongst Muslims?
Yes, you claim there are 2,000,000,000 Muslims on Earth, but what if I told you there isn’t, what if I told you there is only 100,000 or so true Muslims, and I have sat in the company of these Muslims, and these are true Muslims, they havent told me this, I know it
Nothing anyone in any religion can say, do, act, manipulate, or even torture me to think otherwise
If a person was to follow the examples of Muhammad (Peace be Upon Him), then he is a true Muslim, and just by his actions, he can convert the entire world to Islam
All I ever hear christians ever say is, “in a perfect world…”
A true Muslims perfect world is following the examples of Muhammad (Peace be upon him), no music, no television, no violence, no hatred, just one connection, the connection between them and Allah (SWT)
If I were to confess, I’d say that I have never experienced this feeling, but just by listening to the stories of people that have, I know that Islam is the true religion
So, Marianne, take on board what I’ve just said before summing up someone elses religion, and as for all of Leathernecks responses
You might not be intelligent enough to work this out Leatherneck, but I’m sure Marianne will, why don’t you stop acting as though your an ambassador of your religion?
There are way to many negatives of muhammad for islam to be correct.he performed no miracles, and did not show any signs of a true prophet.
Hi Afsar + others
I have knows Muslims who were peaceful. My computer technician is one, who maintains my computer. I went to graduate school with some Muslims as well. We were fine together.
What people are doing here is one group is reacting to negative behavior in the other group. But both groups have had negative histories as well.
The past is over. What isolated people do in certain areas may or may not represent that group.
People need to focus on their own behavior, and show they have peace and love in their hearts.
If you want to discuss specific doctrine, that might clear up some misunderstandings.
I realize the truth hurts Afsar. In a correct history book you will fine Mohamed murdered, and raped. You can not get away from that dude.
That is who you follow. Prove history wrong Afsar.
Over.
There is only a few true history books, you know what they are called?
The Hadith
I don’t believe in anything else, as it was composed by Zionists themselves
Mr Ambassador, only you and I know the only reason your posting on this website is to have a laugh, your petty comments prove that
Dear Afsar,
Where was the outrage from the Muslims after the Mumbai massacre? This is not history. This is current events.
Revelation 20:4. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were BEHEADED for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Mohamed imprisoned the Qurayza in Medina, and had their heads cut off. 600-700 men murdered by your false apostle.
How many examples would you like?
In Islam, these are the laws on a prisoner:
If you decide to imprison somebody, you must first pass through all the Sharia laws, once all the laws have been passed and there is no other alternative, and the convict is a danger to himself or to other people, he must be imprisoned
When imprisoned, the person looking after him must feed him, before he feeds himself
He must pay more attention the prisoner, more than he pays attention to his own family
So many prisoners in Saudi Arabia have become muslim, after seeing there (muslims) humbleness and simple way of life
Do you want examples now Mr Ambassador?
Heard of the BBC Reporter who became muslim after she was imprisoned?
Who went on to publish books and speeches on Islam?
Has the BBC even called her name after she became muslim?
Heard of Brian Lara becoming muslim?
Need more examples?
Theres one difference between the examples I give, and the examples you give, mine are reality, yours is/were false
According to the Quran, beheading is the best way. Yes, that has made quite an impression around the world. Remember, the muslims put out their own videos to brag about doing this. Everyone has seen them.
Lol,
People turn to false religions every day Scene, that does not make what Mohamed did false. I am confident the Jews that got their head cut off for not worshiping a false moon god would like to answer your statement.
You moon god worshipers can call me names all you want. Sticks, and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me.
Good luck, and please don’t cut my head off.
Marianne;
When I submitted that video on the Muslim teaching about Jesus; you said it would be better to submitt a video that shows the error in Muslim thinking. Unfortunately, I don’t think they make enough of those kinds of videos. Maybe that’s awake up call. Let me put out the video again, since probably a lot of the bloggers missed it and it gives others a chance to comment. I will comment. You can’t have both Jesus and Muhommand because Jesus is not a prophet. He said in John 14:6 I am the Way, the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father but through me. Muslims teach Christ was not crucifed. In I Corinthians 1:23 it says: but we preach Christ crucified, to Jews a stumbling block and to Gentiles foolishness. II Corinthians 15:20-26 but now Christ has been raised from the dead, the first frits of those who are asleep. For since by a man came death, by a man also came the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ all shall be made alive. But each in his own order; Christ the first fruits, after that those who are Christ’s at his coming. then comes the end, when He delivers up the kingdom to the God and Father when He has abolished all rule and all authority and power. For He must reign until He has put all His enemies under His feet. The last enemy that will be abolished is death.
Here’s the video: Jesus will Return (at least we agree he will return, that’s a start)
Kittii
well for over a billion of people today would not know and believe in Jesus to be the real Christ, a fatherless boy born to a Virgin Chaste Mother named Marry as the Messiah, they got to know Jesus through Muhammad thus having both Jesus and Muhammad together the same time, there fore the notion of not being able to have them both is therefore practically proven false in the light of prevailing facts!
In fact Jesus and Muhammad both are of the same view on Usury, homosexuality, capitalism, monopoly, women wearing hijab(nuns r proof), eye for an eye, and most of all gold being the Great Seal Being seal instead of the so called modern great seal which is a mark of the beast(usury) $$$ according to Biblical traditions on antichrist but one eye being the sign from Muhammad itself concludes the very same that paper currency especially dollar in itself is the mark without which no sale or purchase is possible in world today from domestic Amercian affairs to International economic trade. The very fact is that in 1970’s dollar peg’s Gold as world reserves, thereby mark of beast replaces the divine great seal(gold) and we enter an age of economic blasphemy and a trick to hoard up real money from hands of common people, where it belongs by divine law of equality and justice!
i find our times very exciting, for this time there is not one single Christian group standing up for the values preached by Jesus nor is witnessed fighting those who blaspheme the name of GOD by potraying a messiah to be a woman as miss liberty while Jesus was no miss, and his book was no joke to be easily mocked at by the constitution and replaced by others as law! Despite the fact Christians claim to be only who believe in Jesus and his second comming, only people we can witness to be on that welcome trail are Muslims! The good being called evil and the evil being branded good just as it was to take place before the second coming!
anyways my fair personal deep view on subject shows that God is known through His Laws in nature and around us, since there is only A1GOD, therefore there can only be A1Law, word A1Lah needs to be seen in reality through grammer of the language. Be it moon Sun, planets, galaxy’s, hurricanes, typhoons or each and single of the snail shell designs, the r18ht hand of A1GOD is clearly visible through the only orbital rotation’s existence on each North pole, something displayed each year during Hajj by orbiting of Kaba in Makkah by Muslims, but sadly yet to be understood in light of modern advances of science that interpret the signs!
You want peace? there is only one way to achieve it, A1Law for all, UNlaw is a complete deception in name of peace! I suggest Muslim and Christians unite economically, expect Muslims to shift there reserves to Euro for it has no graven images, a thing vital to adhere to both according to Christian and Muslim faiths, and to some how return to the Real Great Seal, the bullion asap.
This action surely seems to destroy non Christians and non Muslims altogether economically, but also prove a great strength for the American people and their states to chose by free will against the usuristic clutches of Jewish owned economic system and currency named dollar, the one eyed $$$! Where $ represents divine mark of 18, an add up of 666, to be found on each human hand in Aramiac, Arabic digits as a divine sign, displaying the writ of right hand universally in nature’s clock, and something that matches the rotation we use to open each and every corked bottle with it!
ha le lu eiya, or la elaha il Allah, ever notice how similar they both sound? yet they all mean the same too, no God but A1GOD, no law but A1Law! ONe who submits to A1LAW of A1GOD/A1Lah makes Peace and is thus a Peace-maker(Muslim)just as do not only the moon but all the stars planets galaxies and thus keeping the peace! Our refusal to that will only turn into a wrath be sought by our own hands and actions where we stand alone in opposition to the whole universe itself, a absolute loss, lest we repent and let repent!
dear i-Ahmed
salaam alekum
I do acknowledge what the Muslims believe about Jesus. I appreciate the respect they give him.
My point was that the beliefs of Christianity and Islam are different about who Jesus is.
Christianity sees Jesus as the Messiah, son of God, and son of man.
Islam sees Jesus as only a prophet, and only a man.
The problem is that traditional Christianity has done a poor job of explaining what is meant by the expression “son of God.” and this has caused doctrinal confusion. There are not 2 gods, or 3 gods.
I go by what the original bible says, and not what the Catholic church teaches.
Jesus was a spirit who was in heaven before he came to earth to be born. He was called the Angel of the Lord, and appeared many times in the Old Testament. This includes a visit to Abraham and Moses at the burning bush.
Because God was his creator and Father, he is called the son of God……All the angels were called “sons of god” in Genesis.
In the bible, the first man Adam was also called the son of God, because he had no earthly father…only God was his Father.
In the same way, Jesus had no earthly father, and so his father is God.
I think you have a good idea that people should work together in peace. But we also need to have our individual right to believe as we choose preserved. No one religion should “conquer” the other one. It is up to God to reveal himself to each person and help them believe who he is.
If people can just be in peace, then Jesus will solve the differences in personal beliefs when he comes. He will explain everything we need to know.
marianne,
Muslims beleive that Jesus was a “philosopher”, “decent person” and “good preacher”…this kind of “respect” strips the world of its Saviour and LORD, by “lukewarming” God’s plan for salvation; It makes it worse than devil-worshippers (who actually know who Jesus is) or those who deny Him;
Dear Marianne, wa alekum al Salaam and thanks for your reply.
I like to answer or rather comment on few things you brought up.
First of all view of Islam is not an Islamic view when it contradicts with Quran and same stands for the View of Christianity when contradicts Bible. Quran and Bible are the only proofs we have to authenticate why we the Muslims, Christians and Jews say that there is only A1GOD, our personal or traditional views need not to be allowed to replacxe the significance of the the HOly Books, that includes Torah itself too.
Your said views of Christianity and Islam are different, i dont know what proof you have about that claim from the Holy Books, or perhaps you need to know about all three books before we call their teachings different from eachother. Here is my proof, Jesus is called as ROOH(spirit) of A1-lah(A1GOD) by God himself in Quran, it is not correct to divide the believers in one and same God based on this claim that Islam does not teach us same as Christianity when it comes to Jesus not only being just a man, but a man powered or assisted by Spirit of GOD too plus that he was no ordinary man, but a Messiah as well. I dont know where you got the notion of Islam not recognising Jesus as Messiah, Islam did not come and say Muhammad is Messiah, we are rather taught by Muhammad through word of GOD that Jesus is Messiah.
If Muhammad was not true Messenger and the Comforter promised to come according to Jesus after him, there is no way that he would have taught us about Jesus what false Prophets would claim for them selves. The Title of Messiah remains with Jesus and is not a title of Muhammad, something that should suffice remove many doubts and misconceptions carved up by trouble makers against the comforter sent to re affirm that Jesus is the Messiah and will return surely.
Only a false Prophet can claim to take the title of Messiah for himself when it only belongs to Jesus, dont ignore this great fact that Muhammad not only informed us of a Messiah and turned us from idolatory to believing in A1GOD, but despite having been accepted as Prophet from A1GOD by whole of Arabia, he never claimed the title of Messiah nor did miss quote name and characteristics of the one who owns the title, Jesus son of Marry born without a Father like Adam but Fathered by A1GOD who fathered them as well just as He father’s us all, yet remains one and is undivide able, the word sustainer is more worthy when applied to GOD than father, and removes confusions caused!
Its matter of translation error, or imperfection. For example GOD is the King of Kings, dont make kings sons of GOd, simply put, GOD is not father to any one nor has one, likewise has no father but father’s(provides) for all!
Like Adam Jesus is just a man, different from us all rest based on lack of genetic father, but Adam is even higher in that difference for he was not born of a womb either like did Jesus, if Adam is not Son of GOD and just a man, than how come son of man(son of Adam) be called so?
Original text and language of Bible is not English, because Jesus did not speak English. If u translate the only first person speech directly from Jesus about his being son of any one, we only find ‘SON OF MAN’! Son of GOD reference we find is not first person speech but rather some second or third person narrating his view and words.
NO where in Bible Jesus refers to himself as SON of GOD but Rather SON OF MAN only! in his langauage it means bani-Adam(son of Adam)!
Bible and Quran dont conntradict about Jesus being Messiah and a child born without a father to a Saint Lady who was a born and raised NUN who wore Hijab and no man ever touched her and both bible and Quran clearly state that Jesus and Adam are like father like son story! neither had a father, yet Adam was born without a mother too, it in itself is enough to provide a food for thought that our own personal views and misunderstanding have dragged us far away from the reality still available in both Quran and Bible to be compared and found accurate on this matter and that there is no contradiction about it.
Its about who’s word u take more seriously, Bible, whe it says God is not man? when Jesus is repeatedly affirming and confirming same by calling himself Son of MAN and never Son of GOD, available to be looked up even in present day all versions of Bible! Grammer has alot to do with translating a language from one to another. Without its proper use, meanings can be distorted mistakenly in just one stroke of pen.
Quran is present and includes all the teachings of Torah and Bible which both sadly are no longer available to check the modern day translated versions, but if it was not for Quran’s original text and language preserved miraculously dot for dot for over 1400 years has been a great divine help in understanding true meanings of divine words used in it. Langauge of Quran is the closest kin to the langague of English translation of Bible.
Present day Bible is collection of words of GOD, Prophet Jesus, his helpers and others who caught the word from others about Jesus. Original pure word of GOD is not available in seperate book as is so in the case of Quran for last 1400 years. Words of Prophet Muhammad are recorded through his followers in seperate books and kept aside from Word of The-GOD!
A priest is called Father, by no means he becomes father of any but rather father’S our spirituality by providing us with guidance on the matter. like wise the word Rabbi (suatainer)is applied in Judaism for a priest, but Islam out of respect neither use word father for GOD since sutainer is more appropriate word for GOD who father’s us all nor the word ‘Rabbi'(sustainer) is used for a priest in Islam keeping it exclusively for A1GOD who father’s(sustains) all but is in no need of any to sustain H1m!
hope to continue a talk on this again next time. Glad to be able to share!
Dear i-Ahmed
salaam alekum
Maybe this will clarify my views. I will give reasons. I will not seem like the “typical Christian” with my answers.
Some quick points:
1. the bible is correctly translated. The problem is how people interpret it….they can put meanings there, that were not intended…and then listeners think the original text contained those errors…..I hear people frequently misinterpret and misquote the bible.
2. When Jesus said he would go to the Father so that the Comforter could come, he also told his followers to go to a special location and wait for the Comforter. Logically, they could not wait over 500 years for Muhammed to come, because they would all be dead by then.
The Comforter that came was the Holy Spirit of God, which flooded the room with holy fire, and the people began to speak in other tongues (languages). This ability was to help them spread the good news of Jesus to other countries that had these languages.
3. There are direct quotes from the bible in which
a. the Father God declares Jesus as his son at the baptism of Jesus by John
b. the devil calls Jesus the son of God.
c. the disciples call jesus the son of God, and he accepts this title.
d. the priests who questioned Jesus were angry, saying he claimed he was the son of God
e. Jesus refers to himself as the son of God in a prayer to the Father God before he raises Lazarus from the dead.
f. Jesus shocked and angered the leaders when he said..
“Before Abraham was, I AM.”
This indicated that he existed from before the time of Abraham, meaning he had some kind of divine quality….which they were not prepared to hear
this is explained further, with proofs in this document:
jesus-as-sog-4-internet-version.pdf
The key to understanding this whole issue is
what did it mean? What does Son of God mean?
The question should never have been how many Gods there are, because even Jesus said there was only one God.
Jesus, nor anyone else, never said he was God, to be part of a set of 3 gods. He said he was “son of God,” so what did this mean? The definition of “son of God” is the problem.
Remember, Jesus always taught on the spiritual level, and only used physical examples to illustrate his points.
The correct position, from my perspective, is that Jesus pre-existed in heaven before he incarnated physically as a human on earth.
This gave him divine qualities, as a heavenly being. All the angels and other heavenly beings were all considered to be “sons of God.” and this is mentioned in the Old Testament.
I also believe that Jesus proved himself to be superior to the others in heaven, and that he had a spiritual relationship in heaven with the Father God as a real “spirit son.” This was a special bond of love and devotion.
When he came to earth as a human, this relationship continued, and was the reason he was so empowered by God to do miracles, including raising people from the dead. This empowerment, and loving father-son relationship with God, made him the Messiah. He could explain the Father God better than anyone else in history, because he had an intimate spiritual relationship with his Father God.
This is also the reason he is so empowered that he will be able to return to earth in a second time, to finish his work, and defeat the evil one.
See other related links as well:
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Matt.23:9. And call no [man] your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
1John 3:1. Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
John 14:9. Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou [then], Show us the Father?
10. Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
11. Believe me that I [am] in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works’ sake.
Mark 12:29. And Jesus answered him, The FIRST of all the commandments [is], Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
(…No Trinity?)
Deuteronomy 6:4. Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God [is] one LORD:
make your point clear…thanks.
Ahmed,
Hi hope you are well.
There are people who follow Jesus. I am sure you have not made an exhaustive search. Does not the Bible says “Wide and broad is the way to damnation and many walk down it and straight and narrow is the way to salvation and few find it.”
Muhamad is not a prophet sanctioned by God. Your Jesus is not the Jesus of the Bible is it?
Love,
John
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This Week’s Guest
Brigitte Gabriel
June 2-8, 2008
Brigitte Gabriel lost her childhood to militant Islam, when militant Muslims from throughout the Middle East poured into Lebanon and declared jihad against the Lebanese Christians. Now she is exposing the radical Islamic strategy to dominate the United States.
Christians point to Jesus and Jesus Christ leads you to the Father. When will Christians be ready? Abba said ‘Bring the Christians to me’. However, that takes a willingness on behalf of the Christians.
? What are you writing about? When will Christians be ready makes no sense.
Ready for what? Calling a spade, a spade?
Eliakim;
Please go over and read what I wrote to Mahmoud on
Dr. Reagan did a chapter on “Arabs in Prophecy”
The Bible has blessings for the Arabs too. We are all in his plan. I want to see things through Biblical eyes not geo-political eyes.
I’m not a big Brigitte Gabriel fan. She was featured at Calvary Chapel’s Challenge of Change Conference. So was Glen Beck a Mormon. I attend a Calvary Chapel.
I prefer Wafa Sultan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wafa_Sultan
I think we can find criticism on just about anyone if we want to.
Those who follow Muhammad murdered a Jewish family. The youngest child was three months. Hamas then had a party passing out candy.
Classic moon god worship. Known has the false god Allah, or the false god Sin.
GOD GAVE US OPPORTUNITY
BUT INSTEAD OF EXTERMINATING DEVILS AFTER 9/11
WE EMBRACED “TOLERANCE”
WE HAD OUR CHANCE
WE HAD OUR CHANCE TO CLEANSE AMERICA
WE HAD OUR CHANCE TO ELECT SARAH PALIN
NOW IT IS TOO LATE
YOU CANNOT HAVE MUHAMMAN AND JESUS
YOU CANNOT HAVE DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN
YOU CANNOT HAVE BLACKS AND WHITE
YOU CANNOT HAVE OBAMA AND SALVATION
YOU HAD YOUR CHANCE AMERICA
informed rational freedom loving people have all the reasons in the world to fear islam…
the twin fogs of political correctness & ignorance must be dispersed before western society better understands this menace. even a brief review of islamic theology & history quickly exposes the deadly roots of this evil ideology….
Mohamhead was a 7th century murdering warlord who rose to power on a river of blood surrounded by thugs and gangsters using intimidation, violence, deception and trickery to expand their criminal empire while mercilessly suppressing and killing their opponents and enriching themselves on stolen booty.
The evil koran is a collection of sayings and speeches by this diabolical madman claiming divine guidance from some mythical sky-god which has inspired generations of crazed fanatics to abhorrent behavior resulting in historys worst ever crimes against humanity starting 1400 years ago and still continuing even today.
Islam is just another fascist totalitarian ideology used by power hungry fanatics on yet another quest for worldwide domination and includes all the usual human rights abuses & suppression of freedoms.
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I don’t see this greeks mythology salvation idea in Judaism or in any teachings of Prophets.the original gospel was in aramaic and Paul like people who is author of almost all new testament has burnt original gospel.you know if i wanna translate gospel in my native language i will get a translation of gospel not original gospel and different versions of gospel contradict each other.If trinity faith was primary objective of jesus as we don’t have trinity concept except in greeks Zeus and his human son Hercules why not he preached in his life which he spent with people, wasn’t he preaching? and guess what a person who never ever met Jesus introduced trinity, his name paul who had close relations with roman pagans (same faith of Zeus and herc).Moses didn’t said eat pork nor any Prophet said so including Jesus infact pork is forbidden now christian teachings shows paul is their God as he says eat pork and they are doing
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christians says that jesus was sent for humans only e.g he died on cross for us.
and christians are not ready to accept next Prophet which is the final Prophet Muhammad and his life was so made to set a perfect practical example for the worlds that’s why The first person on Hart’s list is the Prophet of Islam Muhammad. Hart asserted that Muhammad was “supremely successful” in both the religious and secular realms. He also believed that Muhammad’s role in the development of Islam was far more influential than Jesus’ collaboration in the development of Christianity. He attributes the development of Christianity to St. Paul, who played a pivotal role in its dissemination.[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_100 ] God can send angel to Humans as prophet ,messanger or God can speak directly but it’s the test to believe in unseen God that’s why dajjal or antichrist will be send by God and he will claim he is God and he will be blessed with so much powers and sending a human messanger to humans is best choice as messanger spents life with humans and not only preaches them but also performs it by practicaly to set practical example for people e.g if He married a 9 year old girl then God has made it easy for humans that they can marry and also 6 year old girl can become pragnant and this is from God “Certainly you have in the Messenger of Allah an excellent examplar for him who hopes in Allah and the Last Day’, and remembers A1lah much”. “And We have not sent you but as a mercy to the nations. “”The best of you is one who is best for his family, and I am best amongst you for my family”. http://elazhar.com/prophetstories/Chapter1-2.htm ““Indeed, in this [Quran] is notification for a worshipping people. And We have not sent you, [O Muhammad], except as a mercy to the worlds.” (Quran: 21:106-107)
some examples:
A Mercy Towards his Enemies
The prisoners of war taken captive at the battle of Badr were amongst his bitterest enemies. Nevertheless, he made sure that they were given the best of treatment. Among them was Suhayl bin ‘Amr who was a fiery speaker and was denouncing the Prophet . ‘Umar one the Prophet’s closest companions, suggested that two of his lower teeth be pulled out so that he might not be so vile in his speeches. The Prophet replied: “Were I to do this, Allah would disfigure me on the Day of Judgement, despite the fact that I am His messenger.” (Hadith)
In Makkah, his people inflicted him with every kind of suffering, eventually forcing him to emigrate to Madinah, and then waged war on him for five years. However, when he conquered Makkah without bloodshed in the twenty-first year of his Prophethood, he asked the Makkan unbelievers who were awaiting his decision about them: “How do you expect me to treat you?” They responded unanimously: “You are a noble one, the son of a noble one.” He announced to them his decision:
“You may go free! No reproach this day shall be on you; may God forgive you.”
A Mercy for Children
Allah’s Messenger was particularly compassionate towards children. When he saw a child crying, he sat beside him or her and shared his or her feelings. He felt the pain of a mother for her child more than the mother herself. Once he said: “I stand in prayer and wish to prolong it. However, I hear the cry of a child and cut the prayer short for the anxiety which the mother is feeling.” (Al-Bukhari)
He would take children in his arms and embrace them. He was once hugging his beloved grandsons, Hasan and Hussain, when Aqrah bin Haabis told him, ‘I have got ten children. So far, I have not kissed any of them.’ Allah’s Messenger responded: “The one with no pity for others is not pitied.” (Al-Bukhari and Muslim)
A Mercy for Slaves
The Prophet strongly enjoined the duty of kind and generous treatment upon slaves, servants and labourers engaged in manual work. Jaabir related the Apostle of Allah as saying: “Feed them with the food which you eat, clothe them with such clothing as you wear, and do not cause trouble to Allah’s creatures.” The Apostle is further stated to have said: “Those whom Allah has made your dependents are your brothers, servants and helpmates. Anybody whose brother has been made subservient to him ought to feed him with the food he eats and clothe him with the clothes he wears; command him not to do that which he is unable to do and if it becomes necessary to do so then he should help him in doing the job.”
A Mercy for Animals
His compassion encompassed not only human beings, but also animals.
The Prophet forbade his companions to keep the unintelligent creatures hungry or thirsty, to disturb or to overburden them. He commended that kindness and putting them at ease were meritorious acts tending to bring man nearer to Allah. Abu Hurairah reports the Prophet as saying: “A traveler who was thirsty saw a well in the way. He got inside the well and when he came out he saw a dog licking mud due to thirst. The man realised that the dog was as thirsty as him, so he got into the well again, filled his leather sock with water and carried it out holding it with his teeth. Thus, he quenched the thirst of the dog. Allah was pleased with this act of kindness and pardoned his sins.” The Companions asked: “O Messenger of Allah is there recompense in the matter of beasts and wild animals also?” The Prophet replied: “There is recompense in regard to every creature that has a living heart.”
‘Abdullah bin ‘Umar related that the Prophet said: “A woman was cast away to hell only because she had withheld food and water from her cat and refused to set it free so that the cat might satisfy its hunger by eating worms and insects.”
Once on return from a military campaign, a few Companions took away the chicks of a bird from their nest to stroke them. The mother bird came back and when it could not find its chicks in the nest, it began to fly around screeching. When informed of the matter, Allah’s Messenger became angry and ordered the chicks to be put back in the nest. (Abu Dawood)
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I have some Questions which i always wanted to ask
according to christians faith you need to just believe Jesus died for your sin and he will take all of your sins, now what if christian slaps,swears,beats someone unjustly etc this is little example.How he will be judged on the judgment day?did jesus take all of his sins?if only faith is enough then i think satan also believes in God afterall he has seen God he was in paradise he knows those all things? but because of his deeds i think he was rejected and he will be in the most toughest part of the hell
Is this justice to punish innocent and oppressed and rewarding guilty one?God is the knower of everything he knows who will be in hell and in paradise think again he can send hellish into hell withought sending you on earth for a test but then what will happen you will ask God you are so unjust what we did? why we are going to hell.so open your eyes adam and eve sinned this made them to leave paradise and there are People who lived before christians before paul who don’t had trinity and crucifixion faith including Prophet like Abraham,Noah,Mosses,jacob etc and yet they preached simple that is islam (submission to one God).
‘God does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned’ (Surah al-Baqarah 2:286)
“Should Fatima, daughter of Muhammad, commit theft, I would certainly cut off her hand”.
The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) asked one group of his companions, “Do you know who the bankrupt person is?”
They said, “A bankrupt person amongst us is the one who has neither money nor property.”
The Prophet (pbuh) said, “The bankrupt person of my nation is he who would come on the Day of Resurrection with prayer and fast and giving great amounts in charity. And at the same time, he would come having abused this one, and slandered that one, and consumed the wealth of the other unlawfully, and shed the blood of yet others and having beaten others. Then any person whom he has wronged will be given from his good deeds on that Day. And if his good deeds are exhausted until he clears the account concerning all of the people he has oppressed, the sins of those people whom he has wronged will be thrown unto his account and after that, he will be thrown into the hellfire.” (Muslim)
so if anyone gets punished in this life like stonning till death for brutal adultry or cutting hand for theft he/she will be in paradise because they get their punishment and hence justice is done like a killer of someone is judged and court gives orders to hang him till death, samelike christians burnt witches alive samewise Jesus told to cut your body part if it makes you to commit sin for it is better to cut it otherwise whole body will be in hell
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When most people hear the word jihad the first thing that comes to mind is Holy War by Muslims against all non-Muslims. Is this the actual meaning of jihad, or has this term been misused?
Muhammad led by example and his example was one of love, forgiveness and admonishing people to do good deeds and purify themselves through prayer, fasting and charity truly the great jihad.
Prophet Muhammad said,’ The best jihad [struggle] is (by) the one who strives against his own self for Allah, The Mighty and Majestic.”
Ali ibn Abi Taleb wrote to his governor in Egypt, ‘Oh Malik always remember that if a man is not your brother in faith he is your brother in humanity’ (Ordak 86)
In Islam God has said ‘There is no compulsion in religion,’ (Holy Qur’an 2:256).’ ‘ When Muhammad and his followers returned victoriously to Mecca not one drop of blood was shed, and all that were there were forgiven. If jihad ‘holy war’ was to be waged against all non-Muslims all the pagans of Mecca and Jews and Christians in Medina would have been killed.
Christians are not ready to accept Muhammad because he was a rapist, and a murderer. Plus, the god, or Sin, known in Arabic as Allah is a false moon god. One of 360 false gods at the kaabba whom Muhammad made the only one.
Allah Akbar! The god is greatest. Greatest of what? Greatest of all other gods at the pagan shrine called the Kaabba.
Is that clear enough for you?
Leatherneck ” the god, or Sin, known in Arabic as Allah is a false moon god”
Quran 41:37 And from among His Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun nor to the moon, but prostrate to Allah Who created them, if you (really) worship Him.
Allah is name of The God, in Arabic language. Al = The, Ilah = God; Allah = The God Eloah/Elohim in Jewish scripture
Muj2h1d
Peace.
The trinity was not started by Paul. it was started by the catholic church.
If you read the letters he wrote, he identifies the Father in Heaven as God, and the God of Jesus, as Jesus as Lord.
The relationship between Jesus and the Father is described, but vaguely, in the old testament scriptures. Jesus was in heaven before he came to earth, and he has a father-son relationship with the Father. So he is entitled by the Father to be called his son. It has nothing to do with marriage in heaven.
Muhammed was more successful than Jesus because he used the sword ( war) to conquer other peoples. Jesus did not come to conquer, but to bring peace, and the forgiveness of God.
Hart is a man and his opinion is his opinion. It is not the opinion of God the Father.
Jesus was kind to the children, and did not marry one.
Christians who commit sin, and do not repent will be punished on judgment day. Forgiveness is available to any christian who is sorry for their sins.
Faith in Jesus and acceptance of forgiveness when one is sorry for sins is what gets one into heaven. Satan is not sorry, so he will go to hell.
Good deeds will not save anyone. You need forgiveness to get to heaven. Only Jesus can save us.
Marianne
How can you say muhammed was more successful then Jesus. It is more people who calls them selfs Christians than Muslims today. Jesus is the most succesful man.
Have you ever heard of Christians being fed to the lions in Rome?
The Romans found that the MORE they murdered of the Christians, the more Converts were made, so they decided to accept Christian philosophy, and added the Pagan Traditions, as well as introducing substitutes, and making the Caesar the Pope who would take the place of Jesus as God’s mediator for mankind. Peter was NEVER a POPE!
“Christianity” today is Pagan Catholicism & (Catholic) Protestants!
Muhammed is more successful than Jesus?……. Wait, the game isn’t over yet! Read Revelation Capter 19!!!
sam
in the Koran it says that eradicating the Jew from the Arab peninsula. We believe and know that God is on the Jews’ side and that the Jews are God’s first covenant, so we believe that Islam is Satan vagaries.
ISHMAEL, SON OF THE COVENANT
Before Dajjal (anti christ) can come to rule the world from Israel, Israel has to wage a big war of territorial expansion. The corrupted Jewish Torah says that the holy land that God gave to abraham (peace be upon him) extends from the river of Egypt to river Euphrates of Iraq.
That is a lie. Whoever corrupted the Torah wrote that in their just so one day the Jews could take all that territory. The Zionist Jews consider all that land to be the holy land of Israel. For Israel to conquer that Land, Israel will have to wage a big war on the Arabs (specially Arabia and they will destroy Al-Aqsa mosque to build solomon’s temple in jerusalem which Muslims will not tolerate) by making excuses that Israel is now in danger, that’s why they are working on to show the world that Muslim’s are terrorists but in reality they are behind terrorist activities
The laws of physics are not negotiable. Do some research on the events of 9/11 and you will find that the official U.S. government conspiracy theory of what happened on 9/11 is a total lie…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAOy7XzXYWA
Israel cannot wage a big war when Muslims still have a powerful weapon in their hands. What is that powerful weapon?
That Power full weapon is obviously Pakistan nuclear weapons! That is why the Zionist Nato alliance today is in Afghanistan.Nato invaded Afghanistan since 2001 and 11 years have passed but still Talibans who don’t had shoes to wear are still fighting against 28 countrys which are very advanced in technology and army, history shows no one ever succeeded to conquere Afghanistan as there are scholors who say Afghanistan is the khorasan about which Prophet Muhammad prophecised that last imam mehdi will appear there. Their primary goal is to get rid of Pakistan’s nuclear weapons and to break Pakistan into bits and pieces
As you see israel is waiting for anti christ they don’t believe isa (Jesus) is messiah but they think the true messiah will make them rule the world so they are on anti christ side his army .” we (christians) believe and know that God is on the Jews’ side”??? do you know dajjal (anti christ) will claim he is the God and he will have powers blessed by Allah because that will be a test, no human have seen Allah in this life will see in hereafter and Allah isn’t blind but dajjal will have one eye.So making such statement can prove one thing that you believe dajjal anti christ is the God?
God has sent many messengers to them and they have killed messengers like yahya (John the baptist) when God sent another Messenger Isa (Jesus) they tried to kill him When Prophet Isa was thirty-three years old, the blasphemers among the offspring of Israel plotted to kill him, but Allah saved him from their harm. Ibn, Abi Hatim and An-Nasa’iyy narrated that Ibn Abbas said:
Prophet ^Isa was in session with twelve of his elite companions in a house. He told them that among them would be who would blaspheme in the future. Then he asked them, “Who among you would want to be made to look like me, be killed in my place, and be my companion in Paradise.” The youngest among them stood up and said, “Me.” Prophet ^Isa told him to sit, then repeated his same question. Again, the same young man said, “Me.” Again, Prophet ^Isa told him to sit, then again asked the same question. After the same young man volunteered for the third time, Prophet ^Isa received the Revelation that this young man would be the one who would be made to look like him and killed instead of him. Prophet ^Isa was raised to the sky from an opening in the ceiling of the house. When the Jews came after Prophet ^Isa, they saw that young man, whom Allah made to look like ^Isa. They took him, thinking he was Prophet ^Isa, and crucified him.
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they are christians (UK) who gave place to jew in palastine, they take Muslims of middle east like subhumans as they took real americans (Aztec,Mayans etc) they colonize and kill people who own those lands and do forcibly whatever they want .The most important thing christian 28 nato countrys support israel like funding them and providing them weapons (the anti missile system in israel is provided by USA) and they are fighting wars for israel infact christians are not following isa’s (jesus) teachings but their faith is a U turn back to ancient greeks which have father God and their human son like Zeus and his human son hercules which were destroyed by God and which is not preached by Jesus but Paul and his followers paulins who started church system and burnt the original Gospel which was in Aramaic making their way to corrupt Gospel this enables any sect in christianity to make changes according to their faith since there is no original Gospel who will notice what changes you are making except God and as Marianne said “The trinity was not started by Paul. it was started by the catholic church” but still Jesus didn’t started it.Christianity has undergone huge changes which is corruption in religion they publish new gospels with changings because their gospels corrupted by men were useless in modern age as people have gained knowledge and they investigate much.The corrupters of it have represented very bad image of Prophets e.g in Gospel it is written that Prophet Lot was drunked and had sex with his two daughters and many more things like Prophet asked a girl to commit illegal sex with him and for this he will give her a goat, Moses and his men raped 3-year old slave girls,Women as war booties in the Bible,Coveting the neighbor’s wife and another man’s wife.,Judah and the prostitute. No punishment!,Lot’s offering of his daughters as prostitutes!,Favoritism to Lot over the innocent children!,David committed Covet, Adultery and Murder!,David’s selective murder was never condemned!,Jesus too broke the Mosaic Law!,Jesus lusted after Mary Magdalene!,Digital Defloration to virgins in the Bible. Fingers inserted into virgins’ vaginas before marriage in the Bible!
http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_muhammad_true_prophet_3.htm, hence pagans corrupted it so badly,.If christians claim they are on true path which leads to truth why then they drink wine when a prophet in their gospel drank wine and had sex with his daughters so is the case with christians they drink and make blunders in their lives. Bible of Corinthians 11:4-16 which includes: “ And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head.“ so is the old saying but we don’t see christians covering head but we find no difference between atheists and christian women .christians (28 nato countrys) are on anti christ side who have brought back enemys of prophet Isa (jesus) back to the place where Isa will appear again and lo jew will try again with anti christ to kill Isa (jesus son of mary).
According to christians 28 nato countrys any threat to israel our ally is threat to us.There are only Muslims who are waiting for last imam mehdi and prophet Isa to come and Prophet Muhammad has commanded Muslims to join them against their enemys
Quran Al-Ma’idah chapter number 5
51. O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies; some of them are allies of one another. Whoever of you allies himself with them is one of them. God does not guide the wrongdoing people.
55. Your allies are God, and His Messenger, and those who believe—those who pray regularly, and give charity, and bow down.
56. Whoever allies himself with God, and His Messenger, and those who believe—surely the Party of God is the victorious.
57. O you who believe! Do not befriend those who take your religion in mockery and as a sport, be they from among those who were given the Scripture before you, or the disbelievers. And obey God, if you are believers.
58. When you call to the prayer, they take it as a joke and a trifle. That is because they are people who do not reason.
59. Say, “O People of the Scripture! Do you resent us only because we believe in God, and in what was revealed to us, and in what was revealed previously; and most of you are sinners?”
60. Say, “Shall I inform you of worse than that for retribution from God? He whom God has cursed, and with whom He became angry; and He turned some of them into apes, and swine, and idol worshipers. These are in a worse position, and further away from the right way.”
you believe so many lies, I will not respond to all of them.
the bible is not corrupt. it is true.
you believe in fairy tales, and the quran will never save you from what is coming on this earth.
the catholic church was wrong about some things, but is still closer to the truth than you are.
the jews have have 4000 years to conquer your lands, and they have not bothered. They will not do this.
the last war will be caused by iran trying to destroy Israel.
the prophets were real men, and were used by God,
all men have sinned, and that includes Muhammed.
Muhammed was not a prophet. He predicted nothing that came true, and he practiced war, not peace.
the promise of land by God to ISrael will be accomplished by God, not Israel.
George Galloway telling a man that the U.K. had no right to give Palestine to Israel
“Muhammed was not a prophet. He predicted nothing that came true”
The Verses in the Quran That Mention Future Events Which Later Came to Pass
One example of the events foretold in the Quran is the victory of the Romans over the Persians within three to nine years after the Romans were defeated by the Persians. God has said in the Quran:
The Romans have been defeated in the nearest land (to the Arabian Peninsula), and they, after their defeat, will be victorious within bedd’ (three to nine) years…. (Quran, 30:2-4)
Let us see what history tells us about these wars. A book entitled History of the Byzantine State says that the Roman army was badly defeated at Antioch in 613, and as a result, the Persians swiftly pushed forward on all fronts.1 At that time, it was hard to imagine that the Romans would defeat the Persians, but the Quran foretold that the Romans would be victorious within three to nine years. In 622, nine years after the Romans’ defeat, the two forces (Romans and Persians) met on Armenian soil, and the result was the decisive victory of the Romans over the Persians, for the first time after the Romans’ defeat in 613.2 The prophecy was fulfilled just as God has said in the Quran.
There are also many other verses in the Quran and sayings of the Prophet Muhammad that mention future events which later came to pass.
http://www.islam-guide.com/
Click to access islam-guide.pdf
http://harunyahya.com/en/works/870/
http://kaheel7.com/eng/
Muj2h1d
You are spamming my site with long comments. You cannot proselytize here.
The quran was written many years after Muhammed dictated whatever he said. Events could have been easily written in after they happened.
The description of the 40 days in the womb is completely stupid, and proves Muhammed was making things up. Everyone knows that a baby is in the womb for 9 months. Every day in the womb is significant, not just the first 40 days. So Professor Marianne says that “professor simpson” and muhammed were wrong. No educated person would ever say that.
I am not interested in the quotes of stupid or imaginary people.
Since allah does not agree with Yahweh on holy teachings, allah is not Yahweh.
Allah is the name of a moon god. Muhammed got his name from that.
Muhammed violated his treaty as usual. Muhammed spread Islam by conquest, and trickery and deception, not because the conquered were attracted to Islam.
The same is true today. If people convert, they are deceived. I know many people who left Islam as well.
FYI . I will have to block you if you persist in dominating this site with your propaganda. If you feel the need to write something, you should consider having your own page.
we have hafiz who memorize Quran.whenever angel gabriel used to reveal verse or verses of QUran not only Muslims wrote it but also Muslims memorized it.Usualy all scholors have memorized Quran and we have Madrasas where Muslims send their children and children memorize Quran there.So we have children who have memorized Quran but there is no christian who have memorized bible.
[In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days…]1
the first 40 days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis.
[If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones….]2
According to modern science, the end of the sixth week (42 nights) is the time where the foetal development of the limbs is at its height. This is the peak of the rapid development that occurs between the fourth and eighth week
The above video is posted by mistake
here is the relative video to the reply
Which book has been preserved, Bible or Qur’an?
Absolutely right
White?what?
>Dear leatherneck<
We see in Deuteronomy 22:28 that if a man rapes a single woman then she will be forced to be his wife, while if a man rapes a married woman in Deuteronomy 22:25, then he shall be put to death. There is absolutely no punishment for the rapist of a single woman in the Bible.
The Punishment in islam for rapist or committing illegal sex willingly if he/she is unmarried then 100 lashes and if he/she is married and he/she is brutal in this crime then stoning till death but if he/she had repented before he/she was taken to account then no punishment. “Say: ‘O My slaves who have transgressed against themselves (by committing evil deeds and sins)! Despair not of the Mercy of Allah, verily Allah forgives all sins. Truly, He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Soorah az-Zumar (39): 53]
“And whosoever does evil or wrongs himself but afterwards seeks Allah’s forgiveness, he will find Allah Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.” [Soorah an-Nisa (4): 110]
Hadeeth 1: Umar Ibn al-Khattab (radhi allahu anhu) relates that some prisoners were brought before Allah’s Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) and amongst them was a woman who was frantically searching for someone in the crowd. When she found a baby amongst the prisoners, she took it in her arms, cradled it next to her chest and suckled it. So Allah’s Messenger (Peace be upon him) said: “Do you think that this woman would ever throw her child into the fire?” We said: ‘By Allah, Never!’ So he said: “Allah is more merciful to His believing servants than that mother could ever be to her child.” [Saheeh al-Bukharee (10/426) and Saheeh Muslim (18/80)]
Hadeeth 2: Abu Hurayrah (radhi allahu anhu) relates that Allah’s Messenger (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) said: “Indeed, before Allah created the creation, He decreed for Himself, ‘Indeed My Mercy prevails over My Anger.” [Saheeh al-Bukharee and Saheeh Muslim (17/68)]
Hadeeth 3: It is recorded in the two Saheeh, the Hadeeth of Abu Said (radhi allahu anhu) from the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu alaihi wa-sallam) about the man who killed ninety-nine people. Later on, he regretted it and asked a worshipper among the children of Israel whether he could repent. He told him no, so he killed him, thus completing one hundred. Then he asked one of their scholars whether he could repent. The scholar said: ‘What is stopping you from repenting?’ Then he asked him to go to a town where Allah was worshiped. He set out for the town, but death came to him while he was on the way. The Angels of Mercy and the Angels of Punishment disputed over him, so Allah commanded them to measure the distance between the two towns; whichever he was closer to was the one to which he belonged. They found that he was closer to the town he was heading for, so the angels of mercy took him. It was said that when he was dying, he moved himself (towards the town), and Allah commanded the good town to move closer to him and the other town to move away. [See Fath al-Baree (6: 591)]
“And never give up hope of Allah’s Mercy. Certainly, no one despairs of Allah’s Mercy, except the people who disbelieve.” [Soorah Yusuf (12): 87]
“And those who, when they have committed Fahisah (illegal acts) or wronged themselves with evil, remember Allah and ask forgiveness for their sins; – and none can forgive sins but Allah. And do not persist in what (wrong) they have done, while they know.” [Soorah al-Imran (3): 135]
“And of no effect is the repentance of those who continue to do evil until death faces one of them and he says: ‘Now I repent.’” [Soorah an-Nisa (4): 18]
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Prophet Muhammad (SAW) never harmed any of God’s creatures. He told all Muslims to treat even animals with kindness, not cut down trees etc. How can you presume that he’d hurt a human?????????
The Qur’an tells us that Mohammad (pbuh) was not only a Prophet but a Messenger of Allah. The Qur’an tells us that when Allah sends His messenger in a people, these people are not allowed to live on Allah’s earth if they reject the messenger. It tells us that these people are given time in which to make up their minds and to present all their objections against the messenger . It tells us that when the All-knowing Allah decides that these people have been given adequate time and that they are now absolutely clear of the truthfulness of the messenger and thus are not left with any excuse for their rejection, but still are persistent in their rejection then Allah directs His messenger to migrate from the area and then He destroys all those who have rejected His messenger. The Qur’an refers to the peoples (nations) of the messengers of old – Nuh, Hud, Lut, Sho`aib, Salaih, Musa’ (pbut) – and narrates the result of their rejection. It addresses the people of Mohammad (pbuh) – the Bani Ismai’l – and tells them that if they do not accept the message of Allah’s messenger (Mohammad) their fate shall be no different from those nations that have gone before them (See Surah Al-Qamar, the whole surah especially verse 43 – 45).
Our dear Prophet Mohammed (s.a.w.w.) “never killed an innocent person”.
During the conquest of Mekkah even he gave options to the enemy to accept Islam or go to the kuffar’s leader (abu sufyan)’s house and they will not be harmed.
Our Prophet’s behavior is examplary. He knew where to proceed and fight and where to stop. Its so important to decide “not to kill” a person when that person is right under you but our Prophet (s.a.w.w.) never and I repeat “never” killed an innocent person.
It was due this awesome good behavior of his that people accepted Islam in large number.
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Allah commanded Prophet ibrahim and his son ishmail to built a place of worship that’s kaaba and it’s the place where Ibrahim called people to worship Allah but as time passed after Ibrahim satan strayed people and they started to worship idols the very same example we can find in the case of Mosses when he left his people his people started to worship a calf and also they have corrupted Torah e.g they removed or changed commands which they did not like to obey
Allah means The one God and islam means submission to one God.Those idols in kaaba were destroyed by Muslims as we see ibrahim destroyed all idols except one idol when his people returned and asked who destroyed our Gods he replied why don’t you ask this idol who is safe.kaaba was made again worshiping place of Allah and every year from whole world Muslims go there and worship Allah.In prayer Muslims recite O Allah send your blessings upon Muhammad and his People like you bestowed your blessings upon ibrahim and upon ibrahim’s people….
Quran chapter 112 Al-Ikhlas
1) (Muhammad,) teach them: He, Allah, is the Only One;
2) Allah is the Eternal One upon Whom all depend
3) He Who creates without a partner, and Who was not created
4) and there is none comparable to the One.
As a further testimony to the unity of the One who has created all of mankind, note the striking similarity in the Bhagavad-Gita written in India a thousand years earlier:
You are the One Creator of all the worlds,
and of that which moves and that which does not move,
You alone are fit for worship, You are the highest Teacher,
In all the worlds there is none equal to You.
– Bhagavad-Gita 11:43
Quran 2:255
Allah! There is no God save Him, the Alive, the Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtaketh Him. Unto Him belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and whatsoever is in the earth. Who is he that intercedeth with Him save by His leave? He knoweth that which is in front of them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His knowledge save what He will. His throne includeth the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them. He is the Sublime,the Tremendous.
Rapists are punished in the bible. If made husbands, they are required to honor their wives, which is more than Islam requires. In Islam, husbands can beat their wives.
Islam will kill an innocent woman who has been raped. This happens all the time in muslim countries. the rapist goes free.
you need to get your brain off of sex and violence, and find the truth
Muhammed practiced violence and he did kill innocent people, who did not agree with him. He forced people to submit to him, or die.
All great prophets talk only about God in their writings.
Muhammed talks about himself and exalts himself as the greatest prophet, when he killed people and had sex with children.
Allah is not the Yahweh of the Tenach. He is a different god.
True, there is one god, but you do not know him yet.
Deuteronomy 22:28 if a man rapes a single woman then she will be forced to be his wife, while if a man rapes a married woman in Deuteronomy 22:25, then he shall be put to death. There is absolutely no
punishment for the rapist of a single woman in the Bible. So as you see clear advantage for a male:
1. if he likes any beautiful women and she rejects his proposal then bible advices him to rape her then she will be forced to marry him.
2. if you have migrated to a christian country and you need green card the easy solution bible offers is find any rich women and rap her.
Drunkers always beat their wives at little mistakes however in islam sometimes when it becomes necessary to stop women e.g if women has bad character islam advises to stop her or she will stray and it will not only cause trouble for her on the judgment day but for man too.we should stop women lest one day when we return back to home and we may find our women having sex with our neighbour and also parents should stop their children.
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“Every one of you is a guardian and everyone will be asked about his subjects. Imam is a guardian. He will be asked about his subjects. A man is the guardian of the persons in his household. He is answerable about them. A woman is the guardian of her husband’s house. She will be asked about her responsibility. The servant is the guardian of the articles of his master. He is answerable about this responsibility of his, “
(Bukhari)
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Deuteronomy 20:13-20
13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword (even the unarmed ones):
14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the LORD your God.
19 When thou shalt besiege a city a long time, in making war against it to take it, thou shalt not destroy the trees thereof by forcing an axe against them: for thou mayest eat of them, and thou shalt not cut them down (for the tree of the field is man’s life) to employ them in the siege:
20 Only the trees which thou knowest that they be not trees for meat, thou shalt destroy and cut them down; and thou shalt build bulwarks against the city that maketh war with thee, until it be subdued.
In the following verses we see the following:
1- All men, including the unarmed ones, were to be executed (Deuteronomy 20:13).
2- All women and children were to be taken as spoils of war (Deuteronomy 20:14).
3- For the others, kill and destroy every creature that is breathing – that is all men, women, children and animals (Deuteronomy 20:16-17).and destroy & kill until it be subdued.
Notice that in point #1 above, all men, women and children had to be killed. Keep in mind that one of the ten commandments says “Thou shalt not murder. (Exodus 20:13)”. In other verses in the Bible we see more terrorism to even “suckling children”:
1 Samuel 15:2-4
2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I remember that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid wait for him in the way, when he came up from Egypt.
3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
4 And Saul gathered the people together, and numbered them in Telaim, two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand men of Judah.
A praise for dashing little children against rocks as a form of revenge:
Psalm 137:8-9
8 O daughter of Babylon, O destroyed one, O the happiness of him who repayeth to thee thy deed, That thou hast done to us.
9 O the happiness of him who doth seize, And hath dashed thy sucklings on the rock!
I find it to be absolutely ridiculous that the bible feeds us all kinds of lies and contradictions about “love your enemy”, and yet, we see mass slaughter of suckling infants and innocent boys, girls, unarmed men, women (old and young), and innocent domestic farm animals by the tens of thousands! It is clear that the inconsistent man-altered, man-corrupted and morally corrupt bible is nothing but a false book, and can not be a Divine and Perfect Holy Book!
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Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran:
“On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our apostles with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land. (The Noble Quran, 5:32)”
“Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loveth not transgressors. (The Noble Quran, 2:190)”
Allah Almighty also Commanded UNCOMPROMISED Justice:
“O ye who believe! Stand out firmly For justice, as witnesses To Allah, even as against Yourselves, or your parents, Or your kin, and whether It be (against) rich or poor: For Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (Of your hearts), lest ye Swerve, and if ye Distort (justice) or decline To do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted With all that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 4:135)”
you already copied and pasted this argument from somewhere.
I am not going to answer it again.
get your mind off sex and onto God – Yahweh
actually there is nothing to reply as your bible is speaking itself of corruption
you do not interpret the bible properly.
your own thinking is corrupt..
get your mind off sex and onto the true God.
“you do not interpret the bible properly.
your own thinking is corrupt..”
If you tell me where i can find the original Gospel in aramaic i promise i will interpret word to word in my native language but i know christians will not tolerate it they will try to kill me and burn original gospel and they will reject gospel as they rejected
The Gospel of Barnabas
True Gospel of Jesus, called Christ, a new prophet sent by God to the world: according to the description of Barnabas his apostle. Barnabas, apostle of Jesus the Nazarene, called Christ, to all them that dwell upon the earth desireth peace and consolation.
http://barnabas.net/
there is another Gospel found in palastine which also confirms Jesus is the Prophet of God and it perfectly contradicts with gospels that christians have in church
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Jesus warning his followers
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Paul who never ever met jesus and his followers preached another jesus trinity concepts etc trinity which wasn’t preached by Jesus and we don’t have original gospel but we have another gospels
Barnabas was not an apostle.
It sounds like you can read english, so read the bible you have available.
Th book of barnabas was written in the 16th century, which is proof he was not there in the time of Christ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Barnabas
it is fake, and is most likely written by a muslim, not a christian.
Barnabas was a Jew born in Cyrus. His name was Joses,
and due to his devotion to the cause of Jesus, the other apostles had given him the surname of Barnabas; this term is variously translated as “Son of Consolation” or “Son of Exhortation”.
He was a successful preacher with a magnetic personality. Any one tormented by the clash of creeds found solace and peace in his company. His eminence as a man who had been close to Jesus had made him a prominent member of the small
group of disciples in Jerusalem who had gathered together
after the disappearance of Jesus. They observed the Law of
the Prophets, which Jesus had come, “not to destroy but, to
fulfil” (Matthew 5:17). They continued to live as Jews and
practiced what Jesus had taught them. That Christianity could
ever be regarded as a new religion did not occur to any of
them. They were devout and practicing Jews distinguished from their neighbours only by their faith in the message of Jesus.
In the beginning they did not organise themselves as a separate sect and did not have a synagogue of their own. There was nothing in the message of Jesus, as understood by them, to necessitate a break with Judaism. However, they incurred the enmity of the vested interests among the Jewish higher echelon. The conflict between the Jews and the followers of Jesus was started by the Jews because they felt that the Christians would undermine their authority.
ACTS 12: 25
“And Barnabas and Saul returned from Jerusalem, when
they had fulfilled their ministry, and took with them John,
whose surname was Mark.”
ACTS 13: 1 and 2
“Now there was in the church that was at Antioch certain
prophets and teachers, as Barnabas, and Simeon, that was
called Niger, and Lucius of Cyrene, and Manaen, which had
been brought up with Herod the tetrach, and Saul.
“As they ministered to the Lord, and fasted, the Holy
Ghost said: Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work
whereunto I have called them.
ACTS 14:11 to 15
“And when the people saw what Paul had done, they lifted
up their voices, saying in the speech of Lycaonia. The gods are come down to us in the likeness of men.
“And they called Barnabas Jupiter, and Paul Mercurius.
“Then the priest of Jupiter, which was before their city,
brought oxen and garlands unto the gates, and would have
done sacrifice with the people.
“Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of,
they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out.
“And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are
men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye
should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which
made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are
thereon.”
The gulf progressively began to widen. During the siege
of Jerusalem in 70 A.D., the Christians left the city; and refused
to take part in the Bar Coachaba rebellion in 132 A.D. These
two events brought to the surface the difference between the
Christians and the Jews.
The question of the origin of Jesus, his nature and relation
to God, which later became so important, was not raised
among these early disciples. That Jesus was a man super-
naturally endowed by God was accepted without question.
Nothing in the words of Jesus or the events in his life led them
to modify this view. According to Aristides, one of the earliest
apologists, the worship of the early Christians was more purely monotheistic even than of the Jews.
With the conversion of Paul a new period opened in
Christian Theology. Paul’s theology was based on his personalexperience interpreted in the light of contemporary Greek thought. The theory of redemption was the child of his brain, a belief entirely unknown to the disciples of Jesus. Paul’s theory involved the deification of Jesus.
The Pauline period in the history of the Christian Church
saw a change of scene and principles. In place of the disciples,
who had sat at the feet of Jesus, a new figure, who had not
known Jesus, had come to the forefront. In place of Palestine,
the Roman Empire became the scene of Christian activity.
Instead of being a mere sect of Judaism, Christianity not only
became independent of Judaism but also became independent of Jesus himself.
Paul was a Jewish inhabitant of Tarsus. He had
spent a long time in Rome and was a Roman citizen. He
realised the strong hold which the Roman religion had on the
masses. The intellectuals were under the influence of Plato
and Aristotle. Paul seems to have felt that it would not be
possible to convert the masses in the Roman Empire without
making mutual adjustments. But his practical wisdom was not acceptable to those who had seen and heard Jesus. However, in spite of their difference, they decided to work together for the common cause.
As recorded in the Acts, Barnabas represented those who
had become personal disciples of Jesus, and Paul co-operated
with them for some time. But finally they fell out. Paul wanted to give up the Commandments given through Moses about things to eat; he wanted to give up the Commandment given through Abraham regarding circumcision. Barnabas and the other personal disciples disagreed. The following sentences in the Acts give a hint of the rift:
“And certain men which came down from Judaea taught
the brethren, and said, “Except ye be circumcised after the
manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.”
“When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissen-
sion and disputations with them, they determined that Paul
and Barnabas should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question” (Acts 14:1 and 2).
After this rift, there was a parting of the ways. In the
Acts, Barnabas disappears after the rift, because the recording
of the acts of the Apostles was done by the followers of Paul.
Because of Paul’s compromise with Roman beliefs and
legends, Pauline Christians grew in number and grew in
strength. A stage was later reached when kings were used as
pawns to further the ends of the Church.
The followers of Barnabas never developed a central organ-
ization. Yet due to the devotion of their leaders their number
increased very fast. These Christians incurred the wrath of the
Church and systematic effort was made to destroy them and
to obliterate all traces of their existence including books and
churches. The lesson of history, however, is that it is very
difficult to destroy faith by force. Their lack of organization became a source of strength because it was not so easy to pick them up one by one.
Modern research has brought to light odd facts about these
Christians. They are like the crests of waves and looking at
them one can visualise a whole body of ocean not yet visible.
We notice that up to the 4th century A.D. there existed a
sect known as Hypisistarians who refused to worship God as
father. They revered Him as an All Mighty Ruler of the world,
He was the Highest of all and no one was equal to Him.
Paul of Samasata was a Bishop of Antioch. He was of the
view that Christ was not God but a man and a prophet. He
differed only in degree from prophets who came before him
and that God could not have become man substantially.
Then we come across another Bishop of Antioch viz Lucian.
As a Bishop his reputation for sanctity was not less than his
fame as a scholar. He came down strongly against the belief
of Trinity. He deleted all mention of Trinity from the Bible
as he believed it to be a later interpolation not found in the
earlier Gospels. He was martyred in 312 A.D.
Next we come to the famous disciple of Lucian viz Arius
(250-336 A.D.) He was a Libyan by birth. Peter Bishop of
Alexandria ordained him a Deacon but later excommunicated
him. Achilles the successor of Peter again ordained Arius as
priest. Alexander the next Bishop of Alexandria once again
excommunicated him. Arius however had gathered such a
large following that he became a headache for the Church.
If kept out of Church he could be a great danger to her but
he could not be accommodated within the Church as he wanted to establish the unity and simplicity of the Eternal God. He believed that how so ever much Christ may surpass other created beings he himself was not of the same substance as God. He was as human being as any other man. The teaching of Arius spread like wild fire and shook the very foundation of the Pauline Church. The controversy that was simmering for three hundred years suddenly became a conflagration. No man dared to oppose the organized Church but Arius did,and remained a headache for her whether he was ordained a priest or was excommunicated. During this time two events changed the history of Europe.
Emperor Constantine brought a greater part of Europe
under his rule and secondly he began to support the Christians without accepting Christianity. To the soldier prince the different creeds within the Christian faith were very confusing. In the Imperial Palace itself the controve sy was raging not less fiercely. It appears that perhaps the Queen Mother was inclined towards Pauline Christianity while his sister Princess Constantina was a disciple of Arius. The Emperor was wavering between the two faiths. As an administrator he was interested only in uniting all the Christians within one Church.
It was at this time that the conflict between Arius and Bishop
Alexander became so widespread and so violent that it became a law and order problem. So the Emperor anxious to maintain peace in the newly unified Europe had to intervene.
In 325 A.D. a meeting of all denominations of Christianity
was called at Nicea (Now Isnik, a village). Bishop Alexander
was not able to attend the conference and he deputed his
lieutenant Athanasius, who subsequently succeeded Alexander as Bishop of Alexandria.
The conference had many prolonged sessions. Emperor
Constantine could not grasp the full implications of the eccle-
siastical confrontation, but he was very clear in his mind that
for maintaining peace in his realm the support and cooperation of the Church was necessary. Accordingly he threw his weight behind Athanasius and banished Arius from the realm. Thus the belief of Trinity became the official religion of the empire. Fearful massacre of Christians who did not believe in Trinity followed. It became a penal offense to possess a Bible not authorized by the Church and according to some estimates as many as 270 different versions of the Bible were burnt. Princess Constantina was not happy at the turn of events. The Emperor ultimately was persuaded to accept the faith of the men he killed. The result was that Arius was called back in 346. The day Arius was scheduled to visit the Cathedral of Constantinople in triumph, he died suddenly. The Church called it a miracle. The Emperor knew it was a murder. He banished Athanasius and two other Bishops. The Emperor then formally accepted Christianity and was baptized by an Arian Bishop. Thus Monotheism became the official religion. Constantine died in 337. The next Emperor Constantanius also accepted the faith of Arius. In 341 a conference was held in Antioch and Monotheism was accepted as a correct interpretation of Christian faith. This view was confirmed by another Council held in Sirmium in 351. As a result Arianism was accepted by an overwhelming majority of Christians. St. Jerome wrote in 359 that ‘the whole world groaned and marvelled to find itself Arian’.
In this context the next important figure is that of Pope
Honorius. A contemporary of Prophet Mohammed (peace be
on him) he saw the rising tide of Islam whose tenets very much r esembled those of Arius. As the mutual killings of Christians was still fresh in his memory he perhaps thought of finding a via media between Islam and Christianity. In his letters he began to support the doctrine of ‘one mind’, because if God has three independent minds the result would be chaos. The logical conclusion pointed to the belief in the existence of one God. This doctrine was not officially challenged for about half a century. Pope Honorius died in October 638. In 680, i.e. 42 years after his death, a council was held in Constantinople where Pope Honorius was anathematized. This event is unique in the history of Papacy when a Pope was denounced by a succeeding Pope and the Church.
The next two personalities of this faith that deserve mention
were members of the same family. L. F. M. Sozzini (1525-
1565) was native of Siena. In 1547 he came under the influence
of Camillo a Sicilian mystic. His fame spread in Switzerland
He challenged Calvin on the doctrine of Trinity. He amplified
the doctrine of Arius, denied the divinity of Christ and repu-
diated the doctrine of original sin and atonement. The object
of adoration according to him could only be the one and only
one God. He was followed by his nephew F. P. Sozzini (1539-
1604). In 1562 he published a work on St. John’s Gospel
denying the divinity of Jesus. In 1578 he went to Klausonburg
in Transylvania whose ruler John Sigisumud was against the
doctrine of Trinity. Here Bishop Francis David (1510-1579)
was fiercely anti-Trinitarian. This led to the formation of a
sect known as Racovian Catechism. It derives its name from
Racow in Poland. This city became the stronghold of the faith
of Arius.
Among the present-day Christians a large number of men
and women still believe in one God. They are not always vocal. Due to the crushing power of the Churches they cannot express themselves and there is not much communication between them.
In the end it will be of interest to quote Athanasius the
champion of Trinity. He says that whenever he forced his
understanding to meditate on the divinity of Jesus his toilsome and unavailing efforts recoil on themselves, that the more he wrote the less capable was he of expressing his thoughts. At another place he pronounces his creed as:-
There are not three but “ONE GOD”.
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In 325 C.E., the Nicene Council was held, where it was ordered that all original Gospels in Hebrew script should be destroyed. An Edict was issued that any one in possession of these Gospels will be put to death.
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
Quran 2:79. So woe to those who write the Scripture with their own hands, and then say, “This is from God,” that they may exchange it for a little price. Woe to them for what their hands have written, and woe to them for what they earn.
http://barnabas.net/life-of-barnabas.html
“it is fake, and is most likely written by a muslim, not a christian”
why didn’t christians saved Gospel of barnabas and the original Gospel in aramaic, Muslims don’t need to save them if christians had their job done honestly and if gospel confirms Islam is the truth you call may be it is written by Muslims that’s because you know The one gospel the original one is lost and we have so many Gospels.Hebres”, an Aramaic work which was used by the Nazarenes (as the early disciples of Jesus were called), who denied the divinity of Jesus and regarded him only as a great prophet.An old Gospel found in palastine confirms Jesus is Prophet of God and it rejects trinity.
Church declared whomever will have original Gospel will be killed
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
“Th book of barnabas was written in the 16th century, which is proof he was not there in the time of Christ”
The first Gospel to be written was that of Mark. it was written at Rome at least forty years after the so called crucifixion of Jesus. The Gospel as we have it today is considered to be an expanded version of Urmarcus, about which Papias, an early Christian writer, has the following to say:The elder Johi used to say, Mark having become Peter’s interpreter, wrote down accurately whatsoever he remembered. It was not, however, in exact order that he related saying or deeds of Christ. For he neither heard the Lord accompanied him, but subsequeitly as I said attached himself to Peter who used to frame his teaching to meet the wants of his hearers, and not as making a connected narrative of the Lord’s discourses. “we have it by Mark himself or by some other person, “It was written after Peter’s martyrdom (65 A. D.), and at a time when Mark, who had not himself been a disciple of Jesus, apparently had non of the personal disciples of Jesus within reach by whose knowledge he could check his narrative.
The Gospel of Matthew was written in Greek at Antioch about 90 C. E. The author made use of at least two lost documents – ‘Q’ and ‘Urmarcus’. “But a close examination of the treatment he gives to his borrowings from Mark shows that he allowed himself great freedom in editing and embroidering his material in the interest of what he regarded as the rightful honouring of the great Master.
The third Gospel, the Gospel of Luke, was written somewhere in Greece about the year 80 C.E. for the benefit of “the most excellent” Theophilus, probably a high official of the Roman Empire. It is an apologetic addressed to non-Jews. The writer, who was the friend and travel-companion of St. Paul, made use of at least lost documents, two of these were identical with those used by the writer of Matthew’s Gospel and the third was peculiar to himself.
Luke, who wished to bring his Gospel in line with the Pauline point of view, took greater liberties with his sources than the writer of Matthew’s Gospel had done.
The Gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke are called “the Synoptic Gospels” because they proceed on the basis of the same lost document and have much in common. The Gospel of John is very different from these. The divinity and pre-existence of Jesus are affirmed in this Gospel alone, though never as a claim put forward by Jesus himself.In the opening lines the writer of this Gospel makes the claim that the divine Logos, the Word or Reason of God, which created the world, had become incarnate in Jesus. The Gospel of Jolui was written at or near
Ephesus between the years 110 and 115 of the Christian era by some unknown writer who was antisemitically incl’med and represented the Jews as the enemies of Jesus Christ. No independent scholar regards it as the work of John the So. of Zebedee, who, according to R. H. Charles, Alfred Loisy, Robert Eisler, and other scholars, was beheaded by Agrippa I in the year 44 C.E., long before the Fourth Gospel was written. Modem Biblical scholars doubt the genuiness not only of the writer’s own views expressed in this Gospel, but also of the words put by him in the mouth of Jesus Christ. C. J. Cadoux’writes “The speeches in the Fourth Gospel (even apart from the early messianic claim) are so different from those in the Syoptics, and so like the comments of the Fourth Evangelist both cannot be equally reliable as records of what Jesus said.
Rev. T.G. Tucker writes:
“Thus Gospels were produced which clearly reflect the conception of the practical needs of the community for which they were written. In them the traditional material was used, but there was no hesitation in altering it or making additions to it, or in leaving out what did not suit the writer’s purpose”
There were many other Gospels written , including the one called “The Gospels according to the Hebres”, an Aramaic work which was used by the Nazarenes (as the early disciples of Jesus were called), who denied the divinity of Jesus and regarded him only as a great prophet. Towards the end of the second century the Gospels of Mark, matthew, Luke and John were included in the Canon and the rest were declared to be heresied and accepted as scriptures, the Gospels did not have that sanctity which they have now and no one felt any compunction in altering them if anything contained in them did not suit his purpose or the purpose of his sect. Even after they were included in the Canon and declared to be the Word of God, Changes continued to be made in them, as is clear from the different early extant manuscripts. Referring to this, Professor Dummelow of Cambridge writes in his famous Commentary on the Holy Bible:”A copyist would sometimes put in not what was in the text, but what he thought ought to be in it, He would trust a fickle memory, or he would make the text accord with the views of the school to which he
belonged. In considering how far the four Canonical Gospels faithfully present the inspired message or Gospel of Jesus we must bear the following facts in mind: (1) that no written copy was made of the inspire sayings of Jesus in his life time;(2) that the earliest records of the saying of Jesus, which were made shortly after the depature of Jesus, when the glorification of
Jesus had already begun, have all been. irretrievably lost; (3) that in the Gospels, which were ten between 70 and 115 C.E. on the basis of some of those los documents, the -aterial contained in the. was handled rather freely, the Gospel-writers feeling no hesitation in changing it for what they considered to be the greater glory of Christ r to bring it in line with the views of their sector; (4) that none of the Evangelists had know Jesus or heard him speaking; (5) that the Gospels ,were written in Greek, whereas the language spoken by Jesus was Aramaic; (6) that they were composed to propagate the points of view of the different factions and that they were chosen from many others which represennted different view-points; (7) that for at least a century after they were written they had no canonical authority and could be and were actually changed by the copists of the different sects to serve their own purpose; (8) that the earliest extant manuscripts of the Gospels — Codex Sinaiticus, Codex Vsticanus, and Codex Alexandrinuc-belong to the fourth and fifth century and no one knows how much the Gospels had been changed during the centuries in which no manuscript is available; (9) that there are considerable diffeerences at may places among the various extant manuscripts of the fourth and fifth century; and (10) that
the Gospels taken as a whole are full of contradictions
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
I just read all your garbage.
You quote heretics and aethists, and maybe even muslims….
none of them were with Jesus.
Barnabas never wrote anything.
All the gospels agree with each other, and agree with Paul.
All the gospels were written by eye witnesses who lived at the time of Christ.
Anything written by those who were NOT witnesses was excluded from the bible. To say that the apostles were NOT witnesses and some guy in the 16th century was a witness is stupid. It is also stupid to accept the words and opinions of men who wrote that garbage you quote, as they were NOT witnesses either.
Someone named Barnabas wrote something in the 16th century,,, he is NOT the same Barnabas, just as someone TODAY named Muhammed is NOT the prophet you worship as a god.
The Barnabas that was with Paul was the cousin of Mark, who was the son of Peter, and neither Mark or the original Barnabas would not have contradicted Peter. Peter was an eye witness, and so were the boys as they grew up. All of them were in agreement.
Jesus was directly quoted by all the 4 gospels, and he DID say he was the son of God, as well as the son of man, since he was both.
If you ever read he bible, you would know that.
But you wan to believe some men who wrote heresy 2000 years later, who intentionally do the work of Satan, to discredit Jesus.
If you want to study a lie, study the quran. it is filled with misinformation about god and Jesus, and loves sex and violence. it is a book of heresy.
You are totally lost spiritually.
Unless you read the bible for the truth, and stop quoting every heretic on earth, you will stay lost, and will suffer for eternity, and will not be with God when you die.
Marianne! Muslims don´t have any brain and eyes so I understand that they obey a man that is not a prphet and calls himself prophet.
Islam is a copy of Judaism and Christianity. i have travelled to one of their country and they are selling a lots of fake clothes. They have no problem with it because they know that their religion is a copy and fake too. I´m so tired of this Muslims. Muhammed tokk a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was 9. He murdered people. He took his sons wife as a wife. He haven´t said anything about future and it happenend so he is not a prophet. He is Satans prophet that why he can´t talk about future because Satan doesn´t know anything more than the Bibel about future. Jesus and the holy spirit will soon burn them up.
Istone “He took his sons wife as a wife”
“Muhammad is not the father of any of your men , but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things. (The Noble Quran, 33:40)”
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had 3 Sons all of whom passed away during infancy and he had four daughters.
Istone “Muhammed tokk a 6 year old girl and had sex with her when she was 9”
http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_muhammad_true_prophet_3.htm#lot
in this link you can read point number 11.Prophet Muhammad and Aisha.
Istone ” He haven´t said anything about future and it happenend so he is not a prophet. He is Satans prophet that why he can´t talk about future because Satan doesn´t know anything more than the Bibel about future.”
Dr. T. V. N. Persaud
“The way it was explained to me is that Muhammad was a very ordinary man. He could not read, didn’t know [how] to write. In fact, he was an illiterate. And we’re talking about twelve [actually about fourteen] hundred years ago. You have someone illiterate making profound pronouncements and statements and that are amazingly accurate about scientific nature. And I personally can’t see how this could be a mere chance. There are too many accuracies and, like Dr. Moore, I have no difficulty in my mind that this is a divine inspiration or revelation which led him to these statements.”
Professor Simpson studied the following two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad :
{In every one of you, all components of your creation are collected together in your mother’s womb by forty days…}2
{If forty-two nights have passed over the embryo, God sends an angel to it, who shapes it and creates its hearing, vision, skin, flesh, and bones….}3
He studied these two sayings of the Prophet Muhammad extensively, noting that the first forty days constitute a clearly distinguishable stage of embryo-genesis. He was particularly impressed by the absolute precision and accuracy of those sayings of the Prophet Muhammad . Then, during one conference, he gave the following opinion:
“So that the two hadeeths (the sayings of the Prophet Muhammad ) that have been noted provide us with a specific time table for the main embryological development before forty days. Again, the point has been made, I think, repeatedly by other speakers this morning: these hadeeths could not have been obtained on the basis of the scientific knowledge that was available [at] the time of their writing . . . . It follows, I think, that not only there is no conflict between genetics and religion but, in fact, religion can guide science by adding revelation to some of the traditional scientific approaches, that there exist statements in the Quran shown centuries later to be valid, which support knowledge in the Quran having been derived from God.”
Dr. William W. Hay “I find it very interesting that this sort of information is in the ancient scriptures of the Holy Quran, and I have no way of knowing where they would come from, but I think it is extremely interesting that they are there and that this work is going on to discover it, the meaning of some of the passages.” And when he was asked about the source of the Quran, he replied: “Well, I would think it must be the divine being.”
Professor Tejatat Tejasen “During the last three years, I became interested in the Quran . . . . From my study and what I have learned from this conference, I believe that everything that has been recorded in the Quran fourteen hundred years ago must be the truth, that can be proved by the scientific means. Since the Prophet Muhammad could neither read nor write, Muhammad must be a messenger who relayed this truth, which was revealed to him as an enlightenment by the one who is eligible [as the] creator. This creator must be God. Therefore, I think this is the time to say La ilaha illa Allah, there is no god to worship except Allah (God), Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, Muhammad is Messenger (Prophet) of Allah (God). Lastly, I must congratulate for the excellent and highly successful arrangement for this conference . . . . I have gained not only from the scientific point of view and religious point of view but also the great chance of meeting many well-known scientists and making many new friends among the participants. The most precious thing of all that I have gained by coming to this place is La ilaha illa Allah, Muhammadur rasoolu Allah, and to have become a Muslim.”
http://www.islam-guide.com/
Click to access islam-guide.pdf
http://harunyahya.com/en/works/870/
http://kaheel7.com/eng/
Evidence of Muhammad’s Prophethood
http://www.islamreligion.com/category/38/
“get your mind off sex”
there was a time when christians used to burn witches alive but later if any man wanted to mary other woman or wanted to get rid of her he started to accuse his woman of learning magic and today is the time when christians have same lifestyle, wishes like atheists, we see them wearing same clothes like pagans and atheists wear,some christians claim wearing short skirts etc make them comfortable but they forget that there are people who want to be naked protesting in europe for this cause.Christians don’t think illegal sex is any big issue e.g A German christian said he commits illegal sex with her girlfriend because church tells him condom is forbidden in married couple so before marriage he is using it and he knows his sister goes out with her boy friend with same purpose, but he thinks there is nothing wrong in it.He asked me if only i prove it wrong using bible then he will think and i thought in my mind this is something really very hard task.
Quran 16:63 By God, We sent messengers to communities before you, but Satan made their deeds appear alluring to them. He is their master today, and they will have a painful punishment.
As a Muslim i pray to Allah that he show you and all Humans the true path and save us from hell, truly He will admit to His Mercy whom He will
you are full of confusion and false ideas.
where you live is a place where women get raped, with all their clothes on, and the men go free.
I live in Sweden and here we have 9 millions of citisens and 400 000 of them are muslims. But most of the rapist here are muslims. Thier so called prophet was a rapist so they don´t have problem with raping girls.
I said this before. I live in Sweden and less than 5 % of the population is muslims but the rapists here are 50 % muslims.
They don´t have problem raping girls since Muhammed did the same.
Dear Istone i have seen you just posting your own personal thoughts which have nothing to do with fact “Marianne! Muslims don´t have any brain and eyes so I understand that they obey a man that is not a prphet and calls himself prophet.Islam is a copy of Judaism and Christianity”, “most of the rapist here are muslims. Thier so called prophet was a rapist so they don´t have problem with raping girls.” Everything you have claimed is nothing but a big lie and before accusing you should check your own first, lets see who don´t have any brain and eyes. What if the bible were filled with thousands of contradictions and errors? Would you still think it was the “inspired word of God?” What if it had only one truly irreconcilable contradiction? One absolute error that could not be fixed? Could it have come from the Mind of God? if the bible is the inspired word of God, not only should it have no errors or contradictions, it should not even give the appearance of having such problems. It should be a book that no human mind could produce. And if God has given the bible to us through authors He has “inspired”, should he not “inspire” the translators as well? Why would He allow His Word to be corrupted by incompetent men?
“For I am merciful, saith the Lord, and I will not keep anger forever.” (Jeremiah 3:12)
“Ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn forever.” (Jeremiah 17:4)
“If I testify about myself, my testimony is not valid.” (John 5:31)
“Jesus answered: Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid.” (John 8:14)
“And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.” (Matthew 28:18)
“the whole world is under control of the evil one.” (1 John 5:19)
And Jesus said, “For judgement I am come into this world.” (John 9:39)
“I came not to judge the world” (John 12:47)
“For God so loved the world” (John 3:16)“Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” (1 John 2:15)
“Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 5:16)
“Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.” (Matthew 6:1)
“Jacob said, ‘I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.'” (Genesis 32:30)
“No man hath seen God at any time.” (John 1:18)
We should fear God (Matthew 10:28)
We should love God (Matthew 22:37)
There is no fear in love (1 John 4:18)
Foolery
“But anyone who says ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.” (Jesus) Mat 5:22
“You fools!” (Jesus) Luke 11:40
“You blind fools!” (Jesus) Mat 23:17
“How foolish you are” (Jesus) Luke 24:25
“But God said to him, ‘You fool!’ ” (Jesus) Luke 12:20
“You foolish Galatians!” (St. Paul) Galatians 3:1
“You foolish man” James 2:20
(Also – Psalms 14:1 and again at 53:1 – you have to think me a fool because I have said in my heart that there is no God – oops, both of us in hell now!)
Rejoicing
“Do not rejoice when your enemy falls, and let not your heart be glad when he stumbles… If your enemy is hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he is thirsty, give him water to drink… He who rejoices at calamity shall not go unpunished.” [Prov. 24:17; 25:21; 17:5]
“The Lord will rejoice over you to destroy you” [Deut. 28:63]
“The righteous will rejoice when he sees the vengeance, he will bathe his feet in the blood of the wicked” [Ps. 58:10]
Mercy
“Blessed are the merciful” [Matthew 5:7]
“Leave alive nothing that breathes. Show them no mercy.” [Deut. 7:2]
“The Lord hardened their hearts… that they might receive no mercy.” [Joshua 11:20]
“I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the Lord: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them. A curse on him who is lax in doing the Lord’s work! A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed.” [Jer. 13:14; 48:10]
Love?
“I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children.” (Leviticus 26:22)
“Now kill all the boys. And kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourself every girl who has never slept with a man.” (Numbers 31:17-18)
“The Lord commands: “… slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women” (Ezechial 9:4-6)
“When the Lord delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the males …. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.” (Deuteronomy 20:13-14)
“You will eat the fruit of the womb, the flesh of the sons and daughters the Lord your God has given you.” (Deuteronomy 28:53)
“The Lord said to Joshua […] ‘you are to hamstring their horses.’ ” (Exceedingly cruel.) (Joshua 11:6)
“… Go and smite the inhabitants of Jabesh-gilead with the edge of the sword and; also the women and little ones…. every male and every woman that has lain with a male you shall utterly destroy.” (Judges 21:10-12)
“This is what the Lord says: Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have; do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass …. And Saul … utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.” (1 Samuel 15:3,7-8)
“The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their women with child ripped open.” (Hosea 13:16)
“A curse on him who is lax in doing the LORD’s work!
A curse on him who keeps his sword from bloodshed!” (Jeremiah 48:10)
Is this really the “word of God” or the cruel thoughts of Bronze age warriors?
Did you know this was in the bible? If not then are you shocked? If you did know it was there then is Christianity really about a healthy loving relationship or is it a case of the Stockholm syndrome?
The bible god admits he performs evil acts. (As if the above was not proof enough!)
A Christian wrote: “God did not create evil. Evil is simply the state where God is not present.”
If “God did not create evil” then what of the following?
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
Exodus 32:14
And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.
Joshua 23:15
Therefore it shall come to pass, that as all good things are come upon you, which the LORD your God promised you; so shall the LORD bring upon you all evil things.
Judges 9:23
Then God sent an evil spirit
1 Samuel 16:14
But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him.
2 Samuel 12:11
Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thine own house
1 Kings 9:9
…therefore hath the LORD brought upon them all this evil.
1 Kings 14:10
Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam
2 Kings 6:33 …Behold, this evil is of the LORD;
2 Kings 21:12 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.
2 Kings 22:16 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place
2 Chronicles 34:24 Thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon this place, and upon the inhabitants thereof…
Nehemiah 13:18 Did not your fathers thus, and did not our God bring all this evil upon us, and upon this city?
Jeremiah 4:6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring evil from the north, and a great destruction.
Jeremiah 6:19 Hear, O earth: behold, I will bring evil upon this people
Jeremiah 11:11 Therefore thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will bring evil upon them
Jeremiah 25:29 For, lo, I begin to bring evil
Jeremiah 35:17 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them:
Jeremiah 44:2 Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel; Ye have seen all the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, and upon all the cities of Judah
Jeremiah 45:5 …behold, I will bring evil upon all flesh, saith the LORD:
Jeremiah 49:37 …I will bring evil upon them, even my fierce anger, saith the LORD; and I will send the sword after them, till I have consumed them:
Micah 1:12 …. evil came down from the LORD
Micah 2:3 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, against this family do I devise an evil
“Exodus 22:29-30 “You shall not delay to offer from the fullness of your harvest and from the outflow of your presses. The first-born of your sons you shall give to me. You shall do likewise with your oxen and with your sheep: seven days it shall be with its dam; on the eighth day you shall give it to me.”
Ezekiel 20:25-26 Moreover I gave them statutes that were not good and ordinances by which they could not have life; and I defiled them through their very gifts in making them offer by fire all their first-born, that I might horrify them; I did it that they might know that I am the LORD.”
In Matthew 27:5, Judas threw down the pieces of silver in the temple, he departed and he went and hanged himself.
But in the Acts of the Apostles 1:18, Judas kept the silver and purchased a field with it; he went into it and falling headlong, he burst open and all his bowels gushed out.
That is a contradiction. Did Judas throw down the money in the temple, or did he purchase a field with it? He cannot have done both. He cannot have both hanged himself and threw himself face down into a field and exploded. One account MUST be false (or both are). Which one should you believe? Why should you be placed in this position of having to choose between scriptures as to which one is true and which one is false? Who purchased the field? Judas or the priests? Both of these stories cannot be true at the same time. This one example leads to the honest and inescapable conclusion that the bible is not wholly true and consistent– that it is flawed.
Has anyone seen God?
John 1:18 “No man hath seen God at any time.”
Genesis 32:30 “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
Exodus 33:20 “Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.”
Exodus 33:11 “And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend.”
I John 4:12 “No man hath seen God at any time.”
Isaiah 6:1 “In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.”
Job 42:5 “I have heard of thee by the hearing of the ear: but now mine eye seeth thee.”
Has anyone seen Him and lived? Or not? It says both. Both statements can’t be true.
Mark states that Jesus was crucified in the “third hour”, (MK 15:25), while John states clearly that Jesus was crucified “about the sixth hour.” How can he be crucified in the sixth hour if he had already been crucified three hours earlier? Also, Matthew, in 27:28, states that Jesus had a scarlet robe put on him (the Greek word for scarlet here is kokkinos), while John states, in 19:2-3 that the soldiers dressed him in a purple robe (the greek word for purple here is porphurous).
If you think that these are just differences in opinion or perception, you might want to think again. You are then admitting that the “Word of God” is subject to interpretation.
As Robert Green Ingersoll stated so well:
“The question is, were the authors of these four gospels inspired?
If they were inspired, then the four gospels must be true.
If they are true, they must agree.
The four gospels do not agree.”
(About the Holy Bible – 1894).
Who was Moses’ father-in-law?
Exodus 3:1 Jethro was the father-in-law of Moses.
VS.
Numbers 10:29, Judges 4:11 (KJV) Hobab was the father-in-law of Moses.
Does God tempt people?
James 1:13 “Let no man say I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man.”
VS.
Genesis 22:1 “And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham.”
Are we all sinners?
Romans 3:23 “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.”
Job 1:1 “There was a man . . . who name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright.”
Romans 3:10 “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.”
Genesis 7:1 “And the Lord said unto Noah, Come thou and all thy house into the ark; for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.”
Psalm 14:3 “There is none that doeth good, no, not one.”
Luke 1:6 “And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.”
“… the earth abideth for ever.” — Ecclesiastes 1:4
VS.
“… the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.” — 2Peter 3:10
Jesus stated that he was the only person to ascend up into heaven, thereby denying all the other biblical ascentions.
“No man hath ascended into heaven but he that descended from heaven, the Son of Man.” — John 3:13
VS.
2 Kings 2:11 “And as they still went on and talked, behold, a chariot of fire and horses of fire separated the two of them. And Eli’jah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.”
Hebrews 11:5 “By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had taken him.”
2 Corinthians 12:2-4 “I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago was caught up to the third heaven–whether in the body or out of the body I do not know, God knows. And I know that this man was caught up into Paradise– and he heard things that cannot be told, which man may not utter.”
Error Number One:
Leviticus 11:20-23 states that there are winged insects that go around on all fours. This is completely false. All insects have six legs.
Error Number Two:
Leviticus 11:6 states incorrectly that rabbits chew their cud. They do not– this is wrong. Why didn’t God know this? And why would the All Powerful Creator of the Universe really care whether or not people ate rabbits anyway?
Error Number Three:
In Exodus 17:14, God states quite clearly: “Then the LORD said to Moses, “Write this on a scroll as something to be remembered and make sure that Joshua hears it, because I will completely blot out the memory of Amalek from under heaven.” BUT, didn’t God just permanently preserve a record of them in the bible? How could the memory of them be blotted out from under heaven?
Error Number Four:
Isaiah, in 30:26, thinks that someday “the light of the moon will be as the light of the sun”. This was written in the days when people thought the moon gave off it’s own light. It does not. There is no “light of the moon”.
Error Number Five:
Matthew 4:8 states that there is a high mountain from which all the kingdoms of the world can be seen. There is no such thing. (Note: This implies a flat earth.)
Bishop Eusebius (who was well known for saying that it was permissible for Christians to lie in order to further the kingdom of god). This is stated directly in the New Testament, where Paul writes in the 3rd Chapter of Romans “For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory, why yet am I also judged as a sinner?”
The New Testament gospels were written 65-120 C.E., and the names of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were attached to the books that bear their names much later by the early church. Matthew and Luke were constructed from Mark, and John is thought to be written even later by early church leaders. These books were not divided into chapters and verses until the Middle Ages. There is no evidence that these people actually lived at all. Many believe that Paul is the real figure behind the spread of Christianity, and that the Jesus story was constructed by him. The messiah construct was very common 2000+ years ago. Consider Mithra, a messianic figure who pre-dated Christ by several hundred years, and who also was born of a virgin, had a last supper and was crucified, and rose into heaven. And he had 12 apostles. Other messiah figures also had 12 followers– representing the 12 signs of the zodiac.
Christians often write to tell their various “true interpretations” of some of these verses.
2 Peter 1:20 “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.”
2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.
your unbelief and lack of understanding does not make the bible untrue.
The volume of your comment is too much.
If you want to ask a question, ask one at a time.
Do not ask a large volume of questions, because no one is going to read all that, and bother to answer every question.
Death of Judas: yes, he threw down the money, and the priest purchased the filed. in acts 1:18, it was acknowledged it was his money that purchased the field, but it did not say he purchased it directly…..it was indirect, since he gave the money back to the priests, and they made the purchase.
The apostles all lived and were real people. A heretic’s opinion is irrelevant.
Matthew 4:8 describes a supernatural vision experienced by both the devil and Jesus, as they discussed the kingdoms of the world
Seeing God. No one can see the Father except jesus. Visions people had in the old testament where they saw the Lord was referring to seeing Jesus, who was with the Father in heaven before he came to earth. (John 6:46)
Time on the cross. He was condemned in the sixth hour, which is 6 hours from sunrise, which is about noon. He stayed on the cross for about 6 hours total. In context, in the third hour, he was already ON the cross, they divided his garments. In other words, he was on the cross for 3 hours before they divided his garments. You have to understand the context.
Muslims preach “another Jesus,” and will suffer in eternity for rejecting who Jesus really is, unless they stop doing the work of the evil one and rejecting the Messiah.
Marianne
like i said before Jesus was living with us but is in the Vatican now and he doesn´t want muslims to convert to Christianity. So there is need for us to preach the truth for muslims. Muhjadin2 refers to the Bibel but is a muslim that says a lot of that person.
Jesus (peace be upon him) don’t wants Muslims to convert to christianity but he wants christians to convert to Islam
According to the Guinness Book of World Records, Islam is the world’s fastest-growing religion by number of conversions each year.
Quran Surah al Imran 3:54 They planned, and God planned; but God is the Best of planners.
34,000 Americans have converted to Islam following the events of September 11, and this is the highest rate reached in the U.S. since Islam arrived there.After the 9/11 more and more People are asking about islam and converting to islam
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There was also the case with the Treaty of Hudaybiyya.Unbelievers of mecca thought they will win because of this treaty but they were wrong and because of this treaty conversion rate increased greatly e.g The Prophet traveled to Al-Hudeybiyah with 1400 men. Two years later, when the Meccans broke the truce, he marched against them with an army of 10,000.Mecca was taken without any fight and all were forgiven this attitude lead people to accept islam.http://www.mostmerciful.com/prophecy2.htm
And he said, The LORD came from Sinai, and rose up from Seir unto them; he shined forth from mount Paran, and he came with ten thousands of saints: from his right hand went a fiery law for them.[Deuteronomy 33:2] http://www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm
He Who hath given thee the Quran for a law will surely bring thee home again [Quran 28:85]
“a fiery law” The only “Law” from the Almighty God that has come
to Arabia in its history, which judges between the wicked and
benevolent, the evil and good, the immoral and moral,
the corrupt and virtuous, is “the Criterion” (Ar. al-Furqan),
a synonym for the’Holy Qur’an’.
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Amazing!!! the absolute truth about Muhammad in the bible – full movie
Lot is acknowledged as a sinner.
You will not admit Muhammed committed incest with a child, so you are hopeless.
God send his messengers to deliver message,to guide and warn people if messengers will be sinners who will follow them, God can use angels or he by himself can deliver his message but God sends human messenger to humans so that he not only delivers but also God makes events in messengers life such that their life become a practical example for us a model to follow which has no flaw and which everyone who wants to seek guidance can just follow them but you can’t follow what is written in bible about messengers who sinned and never repented.So calling lot or any messenger a sinner is not a good idea.
Lot was NOT a messenger.
And muhammed was not Gods messenger but Satans thats why he couldn´t talk about future bacuase satan doesn´t know about the future.
Masiah forever!
How are things during Ramadan?
You do realize Muhammad murdered, and raped. In Islam the only ones innocent are Muslims. Muhammad heard voices in a cave. Voices from a fallen Angel.
The kaabba is a pagan shrine. Muhammad made everyone worship the moon god.
“We did not send the Messenger before you without revealing to him: ‘none has the right to be worshipped except I, therefore worship Me.'” (Quran 21:25)
This conveys that all forms of worship, whether it be praying, fasting, invoking, seeking refuge in, and offering an animal as sacrifice, must be directed to God and to God alone. Directing any form of worship to other than God (whether it be an angel, a messenger, Jesus, Muhammad, a saint, an idol, the sun, the moon, a tree) is seen as a contradiction to the fundamental message of Islam, and it is an unforgivable sin unless it is repented from before one dies. All forms of worship must be directed to God only.
Jesus instructed us to pray to the Father, and in his name.
The only way to the Father is through Jesus, according to jesus.
Christians and Muslims revere Lot as a righteous man of God.[Jesus is a descendent of Lot through David’s great-grandmother Ruth, who is descended from Lot’s son Moab. The Qur’an does not include any references to Lot’s drunkeness and incestuous relations. He is regarded as a prophet of Islam.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lot_(biblical_person)
Lot was no prophet. He was related to Abraham. The same Abraham that never built the kaabba, or was anywhere near it.
Islam, and the Koran is of the world. That is why it is loved by the world.
this just proves the Quran is corrupt. Lot was NOT righteous and was NOT a prophet. The Quran does not talk about Muhammed’s incestuous relationships either, but both he and Lot are guilty.
So God commanded angels to save lot and his followers and destroy all of his people who were homos and guilty including lot’s women
it is true Lot was saved, but not because he was righteous.
he was saved because Abraham prayed for him.
{“Good deeds will not save anyone. You need forgiveness to get to heaven. Only Jesus can save us.”}
Good deeds are your real wealth in hereafter. you will leave your worldly money when you die and if you had done any injustice in this life then in hereafter God will give your good deeds to the person who suffered same like we pay Money in this life.If you will have no good deeds than you will take his sins and thus there are stages of hell.
[Eph2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Eph2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. (KJV) It is called accepting His finished work at Calvary for your sins.
Jesus came into the world to save sinners. We are born into this world in sin and need to be saved..]
minimum requirement to save ourselves in christianity:
[Acts16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. (KJV)]
[Accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour is acknowledging him as your Lord and Saviour..Believe that he died for YOUR sins That is why God sent Him into this world..if you think it is wrong, you will never be saved.You MUST be born again (John 3:7)..That is the only way to get into heaven..John 14:6 Jesus says “I am the way the truth and the life.”]
don’t you see clear advantage and unjust system in such faith
you are born christian and i am not when you were child you were told about this faith and you got it i need to search because i am not born christian and you were born christian you got it so easily.
But what about salvation in Christianity
[It is a gift offered by GOD himself to the world..]
why i need to struggle and there are people who don’t need to they are born christians
[He sent HIS Son into this world to save sinners.God has said that Jesus is the only way.1Tim1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. (KJV)]
there were so many generations of people who lived without having such faith.jesus can’t be only way.
[God is offering this gift to you..All you have to do is acknowledge that you are a sinner and need to be saved. If you are sincere. god will save you..]
why i need to search struggle fight with my people reject my faith ……
Islam means submission to one God, anyone in the world can believe there is only one God by searching looking into his creations e.g science, but how he will get jesus died for him such faith like trinity
unlike christianity in islam we will asked for our works according the knowledge we had
[YOu cannot get saved by works..Jesus Christ finished the work at calvary 2000 years ago..There is nothing you can do but believe that it was for your sins that He died an by believing you will be saved..]
look it’s simple if you are born Muslim so you have knowledge like about saying prayers 5 times other commands etc so born Muslims will be asked according to knowledge they had and for non Muslims they will be asked according to the knowledge they had both will struggle in this case
[In christianity there is not struggling for Christians]
if God prefered or loved chrisitans more than us?
because you are born christians
[He loves us all equally and to show that to us all. He sent His Son,and punished Him as Calvary, so we could all be in heaven. It doesn’t matter if we are Muslim,or Arabs..Wl all need to be saved to get into heaven..]
well i don’t see any justice in this faith and some are born christian already in paradise they don’t need to be on Earth.God says in The Quran ‘And no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another. And if a heavily laden soul calls [another] to [carry some of] its load, nothing of it will be carried, even if he should be a close relative. You can only warn those who fear their Lord unseen and have established prayer. And whoever purifies himself only purifies himself for [the benefit of] his soul. And to God is the [final] destination’ (Surah Fatir 35:18)
[John14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. (KJV)
He is the ONLY way to heaven…]
there were so many generations who lived before christianity and they had no source to get these faiths like trinity jesus died for sins …
there lived prophets of God like abraham etc this shows this faith isn’t the only way
we have got trinity concept by catholic church
no Prophet, messenger or anyone preached such faith
The clear drawback in this belief, you can do as you wish, you will remain a sinner unless and until you believe in the salvation through jesus. So, even if you remain sinful, you are still going to get saved. Where is the justice in this belief?
Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
“The two feet of the son of Aadam will not move from near his Lord on the Day of Judgement until he is asked about five (matters):- 1) about his life – how he spent it; 2) about his youth – how he took care of it; 3) about his wealth – how he earned it; 4) and where he spent it; 5) and about that which he acted upon from the knowledge that he acquired.”
you are rich or poor in this life you will go to heaven but you will be rich or poor there
there are people who are very poor who struggle alot and there are people who are born rich no problem? are they equal?
same wise there are people who give charity do good deeds sacrifice for other but on the other hand there are people who have just simple faith, are they equal?
this is making trade with God you spent your money in the way of God or you do good deeds you will get reward doubled and multiplied by God and your sin will remain as it was and God may forgive it on these basis there are stages of paradise for different people
Muj2h1d
Good deeds only benefit us if we accept the salvation of Jesus, who died for our sins. Otherwise, we are unforgiven, and present our good deeds, which are contaminated with our sins.
Even wicked people do not believe in God or obey him can do good deeds. So good deeds alone cannot save anyone from hell.
Why are you quoting the bible and Paul if you think they are both corrupt?
The bible indicates we need to do more than believe ABOUT Jesus.
We need to also accept his death on the cross, as he paid the penalty for our sins. We need to make him Lord of our lives.
Muslims cannot do this. They believe jesus never died on the cross.
How we are born is irrelevant. Everyone has a choice in what they believe, and can change their lives and future destiny. Those born into a Christian family are not automatically saved. They still have to choose Jesus as their savior.
The Old testament people were considered saved if they believed in the coming Messiah, and obeyed god.
If you remain in sin, you are NOT saved.
The will of the Father God is that we accept his spirit Son Jesus, and what he did on the cross, to save us from hell, and if we repent and obey as well.
Those who reject the redemptive act of jesus will not enter heaven.
To reject this is an insult to God the Father, who sent Jesus for this purpose, and Jesus volunteered to do this, he was not forced. He did it because he loved the Father and us.
To reject the redemptive act of jesus is to say God wasted his time sending Jesus to save us from hell.
Jesus volunteered to do this, he was not forced. He did it because he loved the Father and us.”
I thought Christians believe in one God but it sounds like two different brains.
Say (O Muslims): We believe in God and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. (Quran 2:136)
G-d has more than one part. Just like humans have more than one part. G-d so loved the world he sent part of himself to live among men, die, and rose from the dead to gain the deed of Heaven, and earth. Adam lost it to the creature that spoke lies to Muhammad.
Muhammad was insane with lust, and power. He murdered, and raped most of his adult life. Islam is of this world system, and so was Muhammad.
God is just like human?God so loved that he kicked Adam and eve out from Paradise because they sinned and they were punished than God Punished his son for Adam Eve sin? oh! God So angry Punished his own son unjustly total unjust fake God.
Do you call it crime if God kills children…kills using earthquakes, floods…?God has made you and you kill innocent ants when you walk and kill insects?, do you think you will rape and God has punished Jesus for it?Guess what having such faith will not get kick from paradise like adam and eve got because Hell is the destination.
God has created everything including evil,He can do anything and you can’t call it Crime and God doesn’t need your fake story, He can forgive anyone without any crucifixion drama.God’s son visited few people and other world ignored isn’t this injustice? In islam God sent his messengers to all People isn’t this justice?
Islam has very strict punishment for rape.Your whole statement is false.
Crime rape ranking:
1.France (10,277) <Has Banned Niqab
2.Germany (7,292)
3.Russia (6,208)
4.Sweden (4,901)
5.Argentina (3,276)
6.Belgium (2,786)
7.Philippines (2,585)
8.Spain (2,437)
……..
109.Indonesia (0.7)
110.Syria (0.6)
111.Burma (0.5)
112.Lebanon (0.5)
113.Turkmenistan (0.5)
114.Yemen (0.4)
115.Saudi Arabia (0.3)
116.Pakistan (0)
Rapes happen in muslim countries. They are not reported due to persecution of women, and rights of men over women. Also honor to family forbids reporting.
Those are a people who have passed away; theirs is that which they earned and yours that which ye earn. And ye will not be asked of what they used to do. (Quran 2:141)
We are not born sinners if you think we are then what about those innocent babies who die without having faith in Jesus (died for their sins).
Muj2h1d
There is only one God. And there is only one spirit son of god.
We are born into sin, and have a sin nature. However, jesus declared the young children innocent, and that we should be like them.
“There is only one God. And there is only one spirit son of god.”
1 God and 1 spirit son of God
1+1=?
a) 1 b) 2
Bible says 1, christian says 1 and Math says 2, Muslim says 2
we cannot have both mathematics and bible
you will fail if you follow bible
are you and your father the same person?
because you are his son, does that make you everything your father is?
my father is Human and so i am and there are no 2 Gods but one God, you said son of God, like we watch in movies Zeus,Hades,Poseidon these greek mythology God’s had relationship with human females and they got Sons half man half God.Mary was virgin and Holy.God wasn’t born a thing which was born like you call son of God isn’t God thing but it’s creation of God.
I am not talking about Greek mythology.
If your father is the king of your country, it does not make you king.
You are a prince, and royalty, like your father, but you are not the king.
The Father is God.
He is king
Jesus is the son.
he is the prince.
Jesus father (God) is king in universe and Jesus will be king on earth. God can go into his son and talk through him then we have 3 in 1 God. Father, holy spirit and son is one God. Islam denies this beacuse God hasent spoken through them since they havent said anything about future and it happenend. SO Islam is Satans Thing.
When God is one and is immortal why He would need a son ??? If any person has a son it means that when this person will be old and has to retire or eventually will die, his son will take over his business / work.
You Christian think God will die and his son will replace him as a God eventually one day. So it means there is more then one God. You Christian are going against the teaching of Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was a human like we are made from flesh and bones.
God who is the supreme power ,creator of all the universe does not need a son. According to Quran the definition of God is:
” God is one.He does not need any thing or is not dependent on any one for any need. Neither God is father of any one nor God is son of any one. And no one is equivalent to God”
You Christian are waiting for God to retire or die so his so called son takes his position and he will create more fools like you who will further claim that now grand son of God is born then you will hang grandson of God to clean your sins.
Latest definition of Christians “Very very fool people born without brain in their skull .Develop greater tendency to become homosexual. May be are product of homosexual marriages. Most of them are illegitimate and claim their ancestors were Apes who only Darwin can recognize. Their DNA test confirms they have not change and are genuine Apes even the holy Jesus Christ gave his life to make them human but still they remain Apes.
God has a son because he WANTED a son. God does not need us either but he made us, because he wanted us.
Jesus was divine in heaven before he came to earth…he was above all the angels…..only then he became human, so he could teach us in person.
God will not retire. Neither will Jesus retire. Both have eternal natures…..
Homosexual marriage is a sin. and the muslim, and christians who do this are going to hell….and yes islam permits homosexuality. the madrasas are full of this. and imams have sex with boys.
hey marianne peace,
“Whoever usurps even one span of land of somebody, its depth through the seven earths will be collared to his neck.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, ‘Book of Oppression.’)
“Whoever takes a piece of land of others unjustly, he will sink down the seven earths on the Day of Resurrection.” (Saheeh Al-Bukhari, ‘Book of Oppression.’)
http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/299/
http://library.thinkquest.org/28327/html/universe/solar_system/planets/earth/interior/layers_of_earth.html
peace to you also.
stealing land is stealing, which is against the 10 commandment, law of Moses.
i am talking about seven layers of earth, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) told it 1400 years ago
The quaran says stuff like jesus is wrong, but then on the very next page it goes on to say … yet he did get this right and will even quote him. islam are a bunch of confused and repressed people. they are just trying to take that repression out on the only people who really could probably do something about it. because they are messed with all the time psychologically and all.
Peace be unto you my friend,
A wise man opens his eyes to all religion. You said its not time to talk about other religions yet you think people should pray for Muslims for believing in Muhammad. I’ll pray for you. Jesus and muhammod are not the same personalities but I think you should read all religion and not just yours because I have and I’ll tell you this when you connect all the dots their one in the same. They are different because of how they went about things. Jesus was thought to be dead on the cross he wasn’t dead at all just down to the point they thought he was. He found refuge in a safe place where he could think and form a plan. When he came back he was a different man because right before he “died” he ascended into heaven where he changed into the personality of muhammod that’s why their different and just because their different you don’t have to pick one. Your missing the points in the rules of the game heck your missing the rules that are stated clear as day in your own religion. Wake is right we are one I don’t think you know the meaning one. We are all connected all religions just have different names the characters plays the same part only thing that changes is the name of the person playing the role. You can’t be close to god unless you except all of that.
Jesus changed into Muhammod?
that is ridiculous.
the death of jesus was not a game, where he tricked people.
Jesus was not dishonest, and would have never had the strength to get down from the cross and do all that. He was beaten and crucified.
THAT is the truth.
youtube.com/watch?v=0gx0bWEqYQk
good for him.
he has courage to say that.
there is a price for this priest head for telling the truth.
muslims are evil.
there is a lot of talk about the ten commandments here on this blog. It is written in the quran that if muhammed wants a girl she must divorce her husband = adultery
Peace be upon you people,
Let us think: Who’s sacrifice is the greatest? Christian’s Jesus (AS) figure who died on cross for Humans (Who is God and Bible says It is easy for God to do anything) or Imam Hussain (AS) a man who not only died in Karbala desert for Humans+Jinns but he sacrificed his whole family, Who’s is the greatest sacrifice Christian’s Jesus (AS) figure who died on cross for one day or Imam Hussain (AS) and all of his family and his Shia (Followers) who were restricted from food and water for 10 days in a desert but still they all fought like lions and got martyred.
The Greatest Sacrifice of Imam Hussain (AS):
http://www.imamreza.net/eng/imamreza.php?id=5900
O Allah, let Your Peace come upon Muhammad and the family of Muhammad, as you have brought peace to Ibrahim and his family.
Jesus is yhe greatest sacrifice….he was holy and had no sin, being the son of God, he gave his life to pay for the sins of others.
hussain was a common sinner..who died like a lot of people, he was nothing special and did nothing for no one.
hussain went out food for 10 days….nothing special…I have even done that..
Jesus went out food and water for 40 days.
Marianne I think you should follow the foot step of Jesus Christ as soon as possible and give your life on cross also to further pay for the sins of Christians. Come on create a good example for other Christians and kill yourself also on the cross.
Jesus wants u fool to follow his foot steps. We are anxiously waiting for the new sacrifice on the cross ……………………………….so hurry up. The history can be repeated. May be your sacrifice will prevent Christians from homosexuality.
I do not have to die for my sins. Jesus took my place.
the bible orders against suicide and murder….something jihadists do not understand.
no human is pure enough to die for the sins of others…which is why Jesus volunteered to do it…he was pure
Marianne, I considered Jesus (AS) of Christianity vs Imam Hussain (AS) of Islam.
we believe: There are Fourteen Infallibles and Hussain (AS) is The Fifth Infallible and our third Imam out of 12 Imams [The 12 Divinely Commissioned leaders of the Ummah after the Prophet (S)]
God says in the Bible “Whosoever is born of God DOTH NOT commit sin. . .” 1 John 3:9
Imam Hussain (AS) is very special to us, like Jesus (AS) is to you.
He (AS) and his brother Imam Hassan (AS) are the leaders of men in Paradise.
Imam Hussain (AS) said: Have you not read the Book revealed on my grandfather the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a.) that declares, ‘Wherever you are death will overtake you, even if you are in lofty towers.’ (Surah Nisa: Verse 78).
Allah, Glorified be He has declared, ‘Through a group of them, for whom martyrdom is necessary, will come out of their homes towards their places of rest (Surah Ale Imran: Verse 153). If I remain unmoved, then through whom will this blatant and disgraced nation be tried? Who will occupy my grave at Karbala? That Karbala which Allah has chosen for me from the very day on which the earth was stretched out (Dahwul Arz1), and He has made it a refuge for my Shias (Followers) so that it be a place of peace for them in this world and the next.
Imam Reza (AS) said “…If you cry for Husain (AS) to the extent that tears flow over your cheeks, Allah will forgive each and every sin that you have committed, be it small or big, little or more.’
Imam Sadiq (AS) said, “Everyday and every night, Allah looks towards the earth a hundred thousand times and forgives whomsoever He wishes and chastises whomsoever He wishes. He is particularly forgiving with the visitors of the holy grave of Imam Hussain Ibne Ali (AS) and with those for whom the visitor will intercede on the Day of Qiyamat, whoever they may be.” The narrator asked that if that person (the interceded one) is already worthy of hell fire? Imam (AS) affirmed, “Even if he is already worthy of hell fire provided he is not a Nasibi (one who bears malice against the Ahle Bait (AS) and an enemy of the Ahle Bait [Muhammad,Fatimah,Ali,Hassan,Hussain and Nine descendants of Imam Hussain] (AS).”
If you are interested, here is the brief Story of Imam Hussain (AS):
http://hammorabi.blogspot.com/Imam%20Hussein/Imam%20Hussein.html
Being “born of God” has a special meaning, and does not mean just created, because everyone is created. Born of God in bible means that someone has accepted Jesus as the son of God and Savior for sins, and that his death on cross brings forgiveness.
Since your Imam Hussain is not born again, in the bible definition, he is still considered an unforgiven sinner.
That is what makes our religions different.
I appreciate the fact that you have a hero to look up to.
I worked for an Indian/ Muslim company 15 years ago in Johannesburg! As a Christian my belief held no sway with them, and I heard the most incredible nonsense, like something from Aessop’s fables’ like how Muhammad touched the Moon and split it into two halves, while similataneously turning it Red! That Jesus was only a Prophet! My take on the believers of Islam is that they are a naive and indoctrinated people. Islam is Satanic as it stands for EVERYTHING that is against the TRUTH of THE MESSIAH , JESUS taught. Mark my words that ‘the Anti- Christ’ WILL be a Muslim!
Muslims know why we get cold.
Satan sleeps in the nose in the night (sahih bukari vol1, bok2, h 462).
LOL! 🙂
Some verses from I slam that HamAss loves.
1. Infants cry at birth because Satan touches them (Sahih Bukhari Volume 4, Book 54 Hadith 506)
2. Satan laughs when you yawn (Sahih Bukari Volume 7, Book 71, H 635)
3. Satan sleeping in your nose at night (Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1, Book 2, H 462)
4. Satan farts (Sahih Bukhari, Vol 1, Hadith 582)
5. camel urine is medicine (Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, H 590)
6. Black seeds cures all diseases (Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 71, H 592)
7. To eat 7 dates cure against all poisons (Sahih Bukari Volume 7, Book 65, H 356)
8. Even monkeys adopts Sharia (Sahih Bukhari, vol 5, Hadith 3849)
9. Satan is left handed (Sunan Abu Dawood Book 27, Hadith 3768)
10. Black dogs are devils (Sahih Bukhari, Book 4, Hadith 1032)
LOL
MUHAMMED TRIED TO TELL THAT HE IS A FALSE PROPHET!
Muhammed said in quran 69:44-46
“allah” will cut the aorta out of the false prophets
Muhammeds death bed confession
Bukhari 5:59 : 713
I feel as my aorta is being cut of
Abu Dawud 34:4498
This is the time when it has cut of my aorta
Source:Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, no. 17: narrated Jabir bin ‘ Abdullah: When I got married, Allah’s Apostle said to me, ‘ what kind of woman do you marry? ” I replied, “I have married me with a ‘ wife ‘.” He said: “Why don’t like virgins as you can caress?” Jabir also said: Allah’s Apostle said, “Why did you not married with a young girl so that you can play with her and she with you?”
more verses that Mohammed was a pedophile
Where are the examples showing why you can’t have Jesus & Islam in perfect unison. I am Muslim my first cousin is a Catholic priest. I believe Jesus will return to Earth and pray behind Prophet Muhqmmad PBUH. Thank You for your reply.
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dear Ahmad
I understand that is the teaching of your faith, but you have to understand that the Jesus you believe in is not the same Jesus in the bible. You do not believe in he is the Son of God, which is a spiritual sonship, not a physical one like humans.
and many of your teachings, Jesus would not agree with. you also are taught he did not die on the cross, which he did, according to bible. that was his main purpose here.
as Son of God, he already has the power of heaven, so he would not need the help of a human man, like Muhammed, to achieve victory in battle against evil. Jesus also would not accept the role of “helper” for Muhammed.
Muslims believe the bible is corrupted, but it isn’t. read the gospel of John, and compare it to your religious teachings. you will see you do not believe the same things jesus taught.