Support Israel- oppose 1967 borders
Netanyahu to come to USA this weekend. Obama wants to push ISrael back to pre – 1967 borders.
This will destroy Israel and open it to attack on all sides. please call and write local senators and congressmen to oppose this. leaders in both houses:
Tell them you
oppose going back to pre – 1967 borders…to keep current borders…..no more land for peace.
Speaker of the House (R) Boehner
202-225-6205 phone
202-225-5117 fax
Senate Minority Leader (R) Mitch McConnell
202-224-2541 phone
202-224-2499 fax
If we don’t support Israel now, we will suffer very, very soon for it.
Heaven Awaits 
This is very serious. Obama wants to push his OWO agenda world-wide and force our best ally to give back their OWN LAND to its most bitter enemy. G-d will judge us most severely should we let this happen. September 2011 is the moment of truth. Either our country stands by Israel, or we risk being judged by G-d swiftly and very harshly.
Israel is the very KEY in the return of Christ. No matter what anyone believes, Israel is the “CHOSEN PEOPLE” and everything, and I mean everything is based on what happens to Israel. When the forces of the North move down on Israel – hold onto your seat, because the end is close, God will not allow Israel to be destroyed. It’s important that America supports Israel no matter what Obama or any other congressional entity says.
Hi, JRA!
I “whole-heartedly” AGREE with you in every way on this issue…as I believe “most” ALL Christians (amongst others), DO! However, with ALL 545 politicians that “represent” the over 300,000,000 people of the U.S. are in “bed” with the President…what chance do “WE, the People…” have of “changing” their minds…AS THEY NO LONGER REPRESENT US!
Sure…”they” (the politicians), WILL concede “small” issues to “allow-the-masses” to BELIEVE they are representing “us”…but in the long-run, all they are doing is “bleeding-us-to-death” and into “SLAVERY!!!”
OR AM “I” THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN “RECOGNIZE THIS???”
HAS ANYONE CHECKED OUT “OUR”, BILL OF RIGHTS, LATELY???
There are so many “RED-LINES” through it…
don’t bother,
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I have written SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN about the Christians being murdered all over the world by the muslim devils..THEY DON’T CARE…
THE MUSLIMS KEEP SCREAMING ABOUT IRAEL AND ACCUSING THEM OF AUTHROSITIES TO COVER THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT MUSLIMS ARE DOING ALL OVER THE WORLD.. kILLLING CHRISTIANS AND STEALING THEIR LAND..
Jews at least have the capacity to defend themselves.. These Christians do not…
This battle is much bigger than just Israel…They are part of it, but it is worldwide..The devil plans to own this entire world and divide it up among his muslim devils..
Psalms 94-16..Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? [or] who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?
Muslims blasphemy law punishable by death is that Jesus is not son of god… This puts al Christians under a death penalty from muslims..They have killed what they deem unbelievers for 1400 years and no one notices…
Plead the blood of Jesus over the leaders so they can repent and make godly decisions even the Pope.
Obama plans today to announce to Egypt, Tunisia and other muslim nations that are rebelling abainst their governments that he is going to redistribute our wealth to them …..Meanwhile we are losing our homes our jobs and are facing bankruptcy… He also plans to steal our retirements in the next week or so..It is time to replace this monster..before America dies…
Maybe he should our national debt along with the money.
sorry…Marianne…but, that falls into the category of, “Wishful Thinking!” 🙂
Then write to the Israel Embassy and tell them you support them.
info@washington.mfa.gov.il
Understand that Muslims succeed because they do not take “no” for an answer to their demands.
You are too willing to hear the word “no.”
I have King Jesus’ DNA in my bones & have an affinity for Israel even as a small child in TX & Hollocaust victims. Pray for Israel’s leadership.
Plead the blood of Jesus over the nation and national debt and over the negative& ungodly atmosphere above/below USA.
Good morning Marianne .I read your post re- Obama wanting to bring Israel back to 1967 and fell that this is not right and would like to help .So I am suggesting this: Write a letter specifying what you want everyone to do .include email address of intended receiver and place a link so that everyone may sign it and them send it to the to the intended receiver.
Hugs Rosa
Remember that Jesus is time, space & he controls timelines of history he is Alpha/Omega and everything in between according to Collosians. He is the reconciler of all creation. According to the book of revelation He also controls the realms of life & death. He is Lord of the visible and invisible.
Just watching Obama. Imposing his will on the middle east, I thought he was against imperialism? The economic imperialism is a preview of imposing a world currency, the middle east has always been resistent to this. He just ommitted the “creator” from “inalienable rights” again!! 1967 borders!!! I hope Netanyahu refuses to meet with him. What an embarrassment!
Yeah dru! You got it right, “…imposing his WILL…”
AND did you the “Headline”??? “Obama is going to outline ‘HIS VISION’ for the Middle East…” Are “we” Christians the only people that can “see” what is happening???
“MY” faith is strong…very strong…but when I look around…it sends “shivers” throughout my “body-and-soul” when I realize what is about to come!!! For Jesus said, “…ALL these things must come to pass…” before He returns! And the “meek” shall inherit the Earth!
Someone mentioned (recently) that “Christians” are the “weakest” group in the world…but “we” are NOT! “WE ARE THE STRONGEST…IN FAITH!” AND, happy to be the “meekest!”
“God Bless everyone, in the name of, Jesus Christ!”
All Christians should pray daily for Israel….and for the Christians who live in muslim lands..
http://virtualjerusalem.com/news.php?Itemid=3631
“In his speech on Thursday morning regarding Middle East policy, American President Barack Obama declared that a two-state solution is imperative to the security of the middle east, and that the borders must be based on the 1967 borders of the state of Israel with agreed upon territorial exchange. This, the president claims will provide “security” for both sides.
“The borders of Israel and Palestine should be based on the 1967 lines with mutually agreed swaps, so that secure and recognized borders are established for both states. The Palestinian people must have the right to govern themselves, and reach their potential, in a sovereign and contiguous state.
As for security, every state has the right to self-defense, and Israel must be able to defend itself – by itself – against any threat. Provisions must also be robust enough to prevent a resurgence of terrorism; to stop the infiltration of weapons; and to provide effective border security. The full and phased withdrawal of Israeli military forces should be coordinated with the assumption of Palestinian security responsibility in a sovereign, non-militarized state.”
I think we should at least try to put forth efforts in contacting our congressman so that on the day we stand before G-d we can say that we stood with Israel.
They may or may not care and it may or may not change anything…todays’ speech told me it wouldn’t, but at least I tried.
We are accountable to no one but the G-d of Israel. What will you say?
Israel must hold fast until the 2012 elections.
The CFR controlled US government just got this country in more hot water the the G-d of Israel. As if these last few years of irregular weather, and earthquakes were not enough.
My gear is ready, but it was never meant to help survive the wrath of G-d the Fsther.
The prophecies have been written and will be fulfilled. I called both numbers to voice my strong disapproval over the President’s agenda about the 1967 borders. As disgusted as we all feel about this, the endtime game will play out as it has been written. I believe as Lyndsey, this is doing our part and for conscience sake before the Father. This whole middle east thing was contrived and manufactured by the powers that be, to put Yisrael in this position. Tunisia, Egypt, Syria, Libya, and so on are nothing in this. Yisrael is the big prize here and later on the “Big Satan” (that’s the United States in case anyone doesn’t know the terminology). In this time, it is better to be counted with Yisrael, than sitting on the sidelines. It is better to be in harm’s way, with the Father having our backs, than to sit this out thinking it will mitigate our troubles.
Pray for the peace (Yah’s peace) of Yisrael
Well said Al!!!
We can also email PM BiBi at this link….A lot of Facebook friends have already done this after hearing his speech.
http://www.pmo.gov.il/PMOEng/PM/Write+to+PM/
Dan 11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge [and] increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
It looks like the USA just “divided the land for gain.”
I disagree. DaOne has spoken, but has not made Israel do anything. I believe this is a prelude to the September vote in the UN.
He did his part for the Umma. Now, we will see how it washes out between now, and Sept.
Matthew 24: 6-8
And you will hear of wars and rumors of wars. SEE THAT YOU ARE NOT ALARMED,FOR THIS MUST TAKE PLACE, BUT THE END IS NOT YET. 7. For nation will rise against nation, and Kingdom against Kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places. 8. ALL THESE ARE BUT THE BEGINNING OF THE BIRTH PAINS.”
Yes Lindsey, I am still seeing the false tribulation. Next step? Netanyahu will agree to the 1967 borders so long as it gains control of the Holy Mount? Perhaps after a short war?
2 Thes. 2:1-4 “Now concerning the coming of our lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you brothers, 2. NOT TO BE QUICKLY SHAKEN IN MIND or ALARMED EITHER by a spirit or a spoken word, or a letter seeming to be from us, TO THE EFFECT THAT ‘THE DAY OF THE LORD HAS COME’. 3. Let no one DECEIVE you in any way. FOR THAT DAY WILL NOT COME, Unless the Rebellion (*) COMES FIRST, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of Destruction (Perdition), 4. who opposes and exalts himself against every so called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat IN THE TEMPLE OF GOD, proclaiming himself to be God.”
* What is the rebellion? The abomination that causes desolation?
Note also that he proclaims himself to be God, Not Jesus. If child sacrifice is the abomination, I will let you put two and two together.
I Timothy 4:1-2 “Now the Spirit expressly says that in LATER TIMES some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to DECEITFUL SPIRITS and TEACHING OF DEMONS, 2. Through the insincerity of LIARS whose CONSCIENCES ARE SEARED,”
I John 2:18,22 ” Children, it is the last hour and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therfore we Know that it is the last Hour. 22. Who Is the LIAR but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.”
You get the Idea, their is a whole lot of lies and deceit going on in these predictions. The day of the Lord does not come until after the abomination that causes desolation. We need to know and understand what this is.
YES!…dru! I hear ‘ya!
As the Scriptures clearly point out, except for the “Day and the Hour”, ALL else shall be “revealed” to those who are “vigilant!” AND, as I am discovering, when the Scriptures refer to, “…abomination…” and “…desolation…”, it does NOT necessarily mean a “physical” (earthly) “abomination and desolation”…ONLY! Thee, “abomination”, may be (and probably IS), a so-called, “religious belief” and/or “way of life!” While the, “desolation”, is probably the result of some “nuclear” catastrophe…or worse!
“All-In-All”, we must remain “vigilant!”
God Bless, dru!
sorry Dru…you crack me up with this “false tribulation”….I think we are seeing before us the prophecies being played out. I don’t think G-d mentioned there would be a false trib then a real trib…maybe I am just not following you…but a false trib would confuse G-d”s elect….and G-d would not do that.
And a white house rep stated after the speech that Obama will most assuredly be visiting a mosque so as to show support to Islam!!! HELLO!
Almost like it would deceive the very elect if it were possible? All I am saying is the possibility exists, and to be wary of it. I realize that I am looking at muslim prophecies for this.
Are you familiar with the decoy that the allies set up for the d-day invasion, putting Patton in charge of the “false” first army. How much more of a decoy will Satan be able to come up with.
I do also see what you are seeing, and am keeping my eyes open, and my house in order. But what I do not get is that all the muslims, mormons, etc. are saying what you are. In a way, this disturbs me. You may well be right, this is it, But what is the implication if it is a decoy.
I know it is not possible to deceive the elect, but that verse implies that this deception will be attempted. Why do you think so many “Tares” in the churches will betray others? Or be led astray? Think of the fifth seal.
aaaaaahh! dru…the Scriptures DO say, “SOME OF the ELECT WILL BE DECEIVED…” NO ONE from any class, race, or “belief” (religion), will be “immune” from Satan’s “deceitful ways!” Make NO mistake about this one! “Keep the FAITH!” and be always, “vigilant!”
Ask yourself, at-every-turn, “What Would Jesus Do?” (wish i would’ve learned that at an earlier age!), AND I’m pretty sure (not “absolutely” sure…just “pretty” sure) WE will come up with the “truth!”
REMEMBER…EVERYONE…Satan “mixes” truth with “false truths”…CONSTANTLY!!! AND, furthermore, Satan IS very very very, knowledgeable of the Scriptures…never doubt Satan’s “cunning” ways!
Bob
What Scripture? I was referring to the revalation one. Are you saying that the Holy Spirit and salvation will be “taken away” from the “elect”? I Know there will be some who think they are among the elect, but are not.
Where does it say that in the scriptures Bob….never read that. It says IF IF IF that were possible….it isn’t possible to deceive a child of G-d. Especially for those who have the HS inside of them…to lead them into all truth.
We are home. Again thank you for your prayers. Thought you might like these.
Everyone has to keep the prayer line going and help to stand on the wall for the nation of Israel. I love you guys what great people. It might not be long before we meet God in person at the rate things are going.
Be blessed in the name of Jesus Christ.
http://thedailybeck.com/2011/05/17/glenn-beck-tv-show-may-17-2011/
http://www.newsmax.com/?s=al&promo_code=C4C4-1
Pattie
Be careful with Glenn beck. He is pushing his mormon faith on his shows. I do find some of his criticisms inciteful, but his motives are questionable. He is pushing for ecumenism, and inclusion of his faith as mainstream “Christianity”. Look up Mormonism and the White Horse prophecy, and you will see what he is up to.
THE WHITE HORSE PROPHECY of Joseph SMITH may still happen, just give it some time. ” There will come a time when the US CONSTITUTION will hang by a silk thread ( NOW)…….and will be restored by the return of THE WHITE HORSE with a little help from the LDS. Other than JESUS, Smith was the only PROPHIT who predicted his own DEATH 5 days prior to being LYNCHED!
This Article is not good for USA.Provoking people against Obama.Then no peace in USA.Then USA go down. Dollor will go down.Then no controller to the world.How about NATO? France President? If no controller then Iran? Then Anti Christ might appear.
hi sunimal
This is not to provoke anyone. Obama is ignorant of US history and Israel history. To propose that Israel go back to 1967 borders is to propose that Israel be destroyed. This is what almost happened in 1967, during the Yom Kippur war. The land Israel has now is important to its national security.
You are absolutely, RIGHT…Marianne! AND Sunimal, unfortunately you are, WRONG! When, “WE, the People…”, DO NOT find a President, worthy of the Office, “OUR” Constitution “provides” a means by which he can be “removed!” THAT PROCESS IS ONE OF THE “RIGHTS”, “WE, the People…”, of the United States of America, “still” enjoy, as citizens of a “FREE” country!
Unless, of course, you “feel” the U.S. should, “…go back to pre-1776…” borders!!!
EXCUSE ME…BUT I AM AN AMERICAN…AND “PROUD” OF IT!!! But right now…ASHAMED of the way, “WE, the People…”, have allowed “our” Bill of Rights be usurped over the years…
hi Bob
If we help divide the land of Israel, and push it back to 1967 borders, our own land of America may very well be divided physically, and pushed back to 1776 borders as well.
Hey Sunimal,
Being pro Obama will NOT keep peace in the United States, will not
keep the dollar from crashing, and will not keep the anti-christ
from taking power. All of these things are coming and coming
quickly. There is nothing any of us can do to stop it. Yisrael
is the apple of Yah’s eye. Be pro Yisrael and the things of the
world cannot hurt you.
Proverbs 11:4 (King James Version)
4Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.
The word righteousness simply means doing the right thing. Support
the things that Yah loves and resist and stand against the things
He hates. It is the way to life, regardless of how it looks in the
world.
Obama is looking more like a better candidate for THE Anti Christ after this last “stunt” of his!
wait to see who cooks pig on the altar, and declares himself god.
Really? Cooks PIG?
Or the Mahdi? I was reading up on him, and saw that as a kid he went to a catholic school and was “listed” as a Muslim on its registers, though not a “practicing” one.
The conclusion of the article is that he was a universalist, (whatever god works for you kind), with socialist and communist liberation theology mixed in. Nice Mix HUH?
He has to get a head wound first, and be indeweled by Lucifer the Sun god. Then, he can be the Anti-Christ.
Obama is a pawn of the Bilderberg agenda for global government. The Anti-Christ will be loved by the world for bringing peace. A Nephilim?
The solidarity I see, is unique and enjoyable. I rarely involve myself in politics, only due to personal health and a strong correlation that it makes for an unhappy life. I vote and consider the importance of weighing in on a topic.
So with a strong, but calm tone. I address, Sunimal Fernando: Hard conversations must occur friend, if they are painful or upsetting, than we must persevere and know communication does not mean violence or as you said “no peace”. No one needs to fear debate, just a strong, calm tone (and… a powerful foundation of belief) is needed.
Faith has always fascinated me. Baptist upbringing… lingering 😀
peace and the jazz it brings,
D3m0n32
Netanyahu totally destroyed Obama’s proposed “peace plan” that obama proposed in his speech of Thursday. You could see that Netanyahu is a real diplomat who gave obama a history lesson, then a total refutation of obama’s ideas of pushing Israel back to the 1967 borders. Netanyahu calmly said that would NEVER HAPPEN. Good for him. It’s about time a REAL diplomat got right into obama’s arrogant face and told him NO. Besides, who does obama think he is telling ANY nation what to do? And you know what the saddest thing of all is? Obama will probably get re-elected by the most ignorant electorate this country has ever had due to it being totally dumbed down and our own history re-written by the schools, and the REAL accounts of history not being taught at all. But like Lyndsey has already said, it’s going to happen. It’s going exactly as G-d has said in the Bible. The Rapture is coming sooner than we think, thank G-D!
Another day and hour has come and Gone.
Now what is Harold Camping going to do? What other scam does he have in mind when he comes out of hiding? He’s a false prophet who will be judged very severely by G-d someday. Yes… there is a Rapture coming for sure, but NO ONE knows the day or hour except for G-d HIMSELF.
In the words of GPS…”recalculating” LOL
Agree with Christ coming back soon. Hopefully, there will be a rapture, but not entirely supported by scripture. Reverend Camping, I am sure does not believe he is a False Prophet but many think he is. He is just flat out wrong in trying to figure out the Day and Time of Christ’s return. There will be many more other False Prophets that will be true False Prophets that will deceive many, even the very elect, if they could and lead many to Perdition. We must vigilantly pray for each other that many will not be decived or misled.
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/middle-east/israel-and-palestine/110520/israel-jewish-palestinian-obama-netanyahu-video
I wonder if Jesus was sold for 30 pieces of silver. How much does a President of the free world get for selling himself as payment for
dividing Gods’ country and Land? Judas hung himself after wards what will happen regarding to this?
Islamization of America.?
I just read you post without looking at the video. At this moment, I have yet to see the entire video. However, when I read your post, I thought perhaps you were talking about how, downtown New York City comes to a “halt” everyday, when hundreds of Muslims(?), stop “dead-in-their-tracks” and kneel-down to “worship their God”.
A VERY UNSETTLING VIEW!
I am a believer in spiritual freedom but this Muslim thing about stopping traffic during their prayer hour is absurd. Sure allow the prayer BUT NOT AT THE DISRUPTION OF EVERYONE ELSE IN NEW YORK. If they are on the streets and praying in the streets holding up traffic – that is subject to a traffic violation or better yet – TO THE EXTREME – RUN THEM OVER- in a humane way – THAT WILL STOP IT.
For some reason, I don’t think they would last long on the streets of New York holding up traffic! Even the muslim cabbies would probably “do” something about it.
Hey dru!
I couldn’t believe it myself…I think I have the video or pictures of it somewhere on my computer…I’m just not sure where it is…when I find it, I’ll post it!
Given the pressure that the US is putting on Israel regarding land for the Palestinias, is it any wonder that the country is experiencing the tornadoes and flooding across the heartland? If Israel submits to the pressure, I would not be surprised if the country isn’t shaken to its core by a huge earthquake across the New Madrid Faultline. The Rosicrusians have a projected map of the divided country in which the country is literally split in two. Support Israel. Pray for Israel and for the future of America. The future looks bleak.
Interestingly, Joplin MO is in the center of the USA
The Rosicrusians, or rosy cross, are pagan New Age. What do pagans know?
An earthquake the size of which divides America would be an earthquake never seen before, except maybe Noah’s flood. It is not written of in the Bible. There will be an earthquake like the one you write about on the Mount of Olives when Christ returns, and steps foot on earth.
Hate to break the bad news to you, but Jesus will never set foot on the Earth again, it says so in the Scriptures!
Hi Bob,
Ummmm, could you please explain that above statement
and supply the scriptural references that you used to substantiate your interpretation.
I am interested as to how you arrived at that conclusion.
Thanks.
What’s the problem Bob?
Been away for a moment.
However, if the following is not true, then I guess you have found a “contradiction” in the Bible, which, “by-the-way”, would be a “FIRST!”
Thessalonians 4:16-17 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up (harpazo) together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and thus we shall always be with the Lord.
The reference that Marianne made is to the time when Jesus “was” here on Earth! Not to his “Second Coming!” After all, why would Jesus “need” to set foot on Earth if He is to “…change us…and raise us to Heaven…”???
Just a thought!
God Bless!
Hi Bob
Thanks so much for your response.
There are many differing theories and points of view within the church regarding scripture.
And I certainly don’t claim to be “the be all and end all” of authority.
I think that Yeshua already has that position. lol.
However, after my years of study I will briefly paraphrase as to what I believe will occur, and to what it is that the verses you provided, refer too.
Yeshua died for our sins and was resurrected as the “firstfruits”.
The parable in Matthew 25:1-13 (as well as others) refers to a specific event. I believe that it is describing what specifically, Yeshua is looking for as a prerequisite to be considered worthy enough to partake as His bride.
The event itself is commonly referred to theologically as being the rapture, though “harpazo” sometimes translated as being “caught up” is the correct Greek transliteration.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 is speaking of this event. It is also referenced again in 1 Corinthians 15:50-55.as well in some other verses.
This is where the church itself is caught up to meet the Lord in the air, with either resurrected bodies of the dead in Yeshua, or changed in the twinkling of an eye bodies, for those still living.
These chosen will return with Yeshua to heaven to be betrothed to Him.
These references can be found in, John 3:29., 2 Corinthians 11:2., Rev. 21:9 and 22:17., and can be substantiated in Rev. 19:7-9. where it is written that an actual “wedding ceremony” will take place in heaven.
With Yeshua being the firstfruits, this resurrection then becomes the second set of fruits.
And I believe, (though I am not going to go into it in any detail as to why here), that scripture reveals that this event will take place prior to any of God’s tribulation taking place on the earth. Luke 21:36.
It is only after this event, that the tribulation and God’s wrath will begin.
The chosen will be celebrating their honeymoon so to speak, up in heaven at that time.
During this same time, (but after the resurrection of the bride) the 144,000 will also be caught up.
Then after the time of the tribulation,
Yeshua will return to establish His millennial kingdom here on earth.
At that time He will bind satan for a 1,000 years, then resurrect those that either weren’t selected as being worthy to be the bride the first time, but remained in the faith, and did not accept the mark of the beast or worship his name and were killed for doing so, those that had also escaped this death and remained alive, and those that came to the faith and truth of who Yeshua was, during the time of the tribulation.
Scripture states that those that are caught up, will rule and reign with Him on earth for a 1000 years.
2 Tim. 2:12, Rev. 5:10, Rev. 20:6
I know that their are people that frequent this site that will disagree with this premise, and that is fine.
However, I could decide to respond and post a “sizable” study that I am almost finished in conducting that I think would satiate their doubt.
These are just my thoughts in respects to my understanding and interpretation Bob. I don’t claim that they are absolutely correct. However I do believe them to be biblical sound.
Blessings
Oh and Bob,
To answer your question that you pose. I will answer it with a question myself.
You ask, “After all, why would Jesus “need” to set foot on Earth if He is to “…change us…and raise us to Heaven…”???”
I ask if one goes to heaven when they die as soul/spirit being a child of God, why do we require a resurrected body if we are not to utilize it in the physical realm?”
Whom am I to argue??? However, most of what you have written is “based” on certain premises, of which I am not totally in agreement with…particularly that of “…the Tribulation…” But then, I am far from being an authority on the subject. I do however “know” someone who is and that is, “Thomas McElwain!” AND he “was” a BIG contributor to “Proof Directory”…although he is no longer involved as much as he used to be due to “other” commitments.
So…suffice it to say, I will not “argue” your viewpoint as you are entitled to it! 🙂 AS for the “resurrected body”??? Jesus does NOT say we are “resurrected”…HE says we receive “NEW” bodies!!! Almost like a “newborn” child (the one we have in womb is for a “watery” environment, upon birth, we discover a “new” body that requires “air”, etc.)!!!
just a thought!
Hi Bob,
That’s okay.
Thanks for not wanting to argue or debate it all, because I am placing my energies in this study, and it is taking a considerable amount of time.
You sound like a Post Tribber though, so when I am done, I may just post this study on the site.
I leave you with Luke 24:45 and I hope that Yeshua blesses you with that in the future.
Darn skinny columns. Grrr. 🙂
Blessings
ha! ha! “skinny skinny” column lol 😉
Had to look it up!
“Pre/Post Tribber” 🙂
Really, I’ll wait to see what God has in store for us!
I’d be interested in what you come up with nonetheless! Good Luck with your studies!
Sincerely,
Bob Wise
hi Bob
Zec 14:3 ¶ Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Hi Marianne,
Yes exactly, as well as other verses that state the same.
It all goes back to what I was talking about earlier with you, where someone accepts an error as a truth, then has to apply any further study, to fit accordingly to that preconceived error.
I would also ask Bob, ” Why do we require a resurrected body if we are not to utilize it in the physical realm?”
However, I am interested in hearing his response to the question posed above first.
Blessings.
Who says that “Heaven” is NOT a PHYSICAL REALM??? Jesus certainly does not as he said to His Disciples, “…there are many “rooms” in My Father’s House…”
Actually, if you look at what the weather was like during the time between 1910 and 1930 (I believe), you will find that it was a “tumultuous time”, also. However, at that time, there were very few people affected by this type of weather as the land was not a populated AND there were NO satellites to record it!
But, nonetheless, the weather “was” terrible! Just as it is now! More and More, I have come to realize, that when the Bible speaks of, “weather”, It is not always speaking of the “physical” aspect of “weather”, but in reality, the “unrest” of the population of the world and governments and Christianity (and the lack thereof).
It is easy to see how a “wind” can refer to how “ideas” go from, place-to-place, “as if” blown by a “wind”. Or how “groups” of people or governments could be suddenly, divided, “as if” by an “earthquake!” And if you take a, “step back” and “look around”, you just might…see it for what it really is!
this explains the need for defensible borders for Israel.
http://www.youtube.com/user/shaharclips#p/a/u/0/k2hZ6SlSqq0
I DO NOT “pretend” to know everything there is to “know” about Scripture! Heck, I can’t remember much about yesterday, for that matter! So forgive me if I don’t “entirely” agree with all that you and anyone else “posts!” ALL I know is that the Scriptures do not contradict from one point to another!
I rely upon “Proof Directory” for most interpretation as “they” have done most of the “in-depth” study to confirm one Scripture after another basing “their” interpretation on Scripture and presenting it for you…in detail!
Like I said before, “I like the idea that I may not have to die!”
God Bless!
Hi Bob,
That stupid thing reached its end. There wasn’t even a “reply” area to click and reply with. lol.
I just wanted to say thanks in regards to your Good-Luck wishes in my studies, and say that I’ll try to find you here when it is done and post it for you. I warn you now that it will be long though. One thing tends to lead to another when you do these.
However, whenever I do them I always learn more myself, and the purpose ultimately is to also share them, so that hopefully they can somehow edify the body.
Until then,
Be blessed.
Sin brings death, look at Adam and Eve . Jesus Christ if we repent and accept Him as our Lord and Savior . His Holy Blood will wash all our sins away . He is our hope and ever present help in time of trouble. HE is our great High Priest. HE says fear not for I am with you always even unto the end of the world. He is the one who holds our right hand and no one can take us from Him as He will never let us go. God bless.
ISRAEL is the land God choose for the Jews to live and also will be our future home . The Lord has ingrafted us into the vine so we too are a part of Isreal . The Word in our Bibles tells men they should love their wife like they love their own body can we Christians not help but love Isreal in the same way the man was told to love his wife. Israel is a part of us too and our heiritage also . What person does not love his or her heritage.
How many of you have heard about this case?
http://www.radicalislam.org/action/stop-honor-killings
not sure about this one in particular, but this is common practice among muslims.
“…but this is common practice among muslims…”
WOW! the way you phrased it…so “matter-of-fact” and “common”…almost, “as if” it “should be” ACCEPTED!!!
NO!…Marianne, I “know” that is NOT what you meant!!! I “know” it “disgusts” you as much as it “disgusts” ME! However…I am “sure” that “Muslims”, in fact, accept this as a “way-of-life!”
In case no one has “noticed”…the Muslim community has already “divided” we Christians as “we” continue to “bicker” about “whose” man-made Religion “we” should follow instead of concentrating on simply following the “teachings of Jesus Christ!”
That’s…Okay! The Scriptures say ALL these things MUST come to Pass before Jesus returns to “Unite Us All In Heaven!”
Beheading and honor killing should never be accepted.
In general, evil is “common” now, but it does not mean I endorse it.
However, Muslims do accept it, and that is the danger of it.
For all of those who come to this site and love God but love not any other man especially the Jews. Here are Gods’ words for you this day.
Isaiah 53:1-
1. Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
2. He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root only out of dry ground. he had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
3. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering. Like one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4. Surely he took up our infirmities and carried our sorrows, yet we considered him stricken by God, smitten by him, and afflicted.
5. But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed.
6. We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7. He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.
8. By oppression and judgment he was taken away. And who can speak of his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living; for the transgression of my people he was stricken.
9. He was assigned a grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death, though he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth.
10. Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer, and though the LORD makes his life a guilt offering, he will see his offspring and prolong his days, and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
11. After the suffering of his doul, he will see the light (of life) and be satisfied; by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many, and he will bear their iniquities.
12. Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
13. “Sing, O barren woman, you who never bore a child; burst into song, shout for joy, you who were never in labor; because more are the children of the desolate woman that of her who has a husband,” says the LORD.
If you don’t know this women is Israel and that he loves her the way he loves you, I suggest getting on your knees and praying for you need deliverance. We are living in times where the devil is entering believers. It is know different than when Jesus told Peter get the behind me satan.
I am sick and tired of women claiming to be Israel the women in Revelations or those who think God isn’t going to save Israel when he said out of his own mouth he is going to save her?