Counting the Omer to the Last Week of Daniel

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Young Israeli soldiers at the Western Wall in 1967, and now, 2009.

Counting of the prophetic omer begins with June, 1967, the recapture of Jerusalem.

Yeshua, Jesus, said that the generation that saw this, and other signs, would not pass away until all things had been fulfilled.

Mat 24:32 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh:

    *** Israel is the fig tree.  It has already been born in 1948.  It put forth leaves in the summer (June), when it was mature (1967).

Mat 24:33   So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, [even] at the doors.

Mat 24:34   Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

Jesus meant that this generation of  soldiers would live to see what they offered their lives for – a free Israel, ready to receive their Messiah – the greatest harvest Israel could ever hope for.

Daniel’s prophecy of the last week, of 70 weeks:

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Dan 9:27   And he [the prince that shall come] shall confirm the covenant with many for one week [the last week]: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

The Last week and First Fruits

The book of Revelation (Chapter 7) indicates that the 144,000 (First Fruits to the Lord) are to be sealed before the Time of Trouble

The Feast of First Fruits is Shavuot, which is 50 days after Passover. 

Counting the omer to First Fruits.

Shavuot commemorates the time when the first fruits were harvested and brought to the Temple, and is known as Hag ha-Bikkurim (the Festival of the First Fruits).

We count each of the days from the second day of Passover to the day before Shavu’ot, 49 days or 7 full weeks, hence the name of the festival. 

The counting of the omer is over when we get to the 50th day, which is Shavuot itself.

The countdown of 49 years starts June, 1967

In Israel’s history:

Shavuot occurred on June 15, 1967 — just a few days after the liberation of the Old City of Jerusalem in the Six Day War (June 5-10, inclusive)

This marked the maturity of the generation of Israel that had reborn (returned to homeland)  in 1948.

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Relationship of Shavuot, counting of the omer, and the prophetic First Fruits for Israel on the Hebrew calendar:

It has now been 42 years since the liberation of Jerusalem.

YHVH – God is counting the omer:

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God’s puzzle for us – can we predict (somewhat) the time of Jacob’s trouble, and the last week, using the feast of First Fruits, and counting the omer?

Will June 12, 2016 be significant in prophecy?

Counting the omer stops on June 11, 2016, and June 12, 2016 will be the beginning of the 50th year

since the liberation of Jerusalem in 1967.

On the Hebrew calendar, the First Fruits is the last spring feast for 3 ½ months before the Fall Feasts.

Brain teaser:

Does 2016 represent the beginning of the “last week” of Daniel, the middle of it, or the end of it?

If June 12, 2016 is the beginning of the week, then the “last week” of Daniel starts in June, 2016.

If June 12, 2016 is the middle of the week, then the “last week” of Daniel starts about December 12, 2012.

If June 12, 2016 is the end of the week, then the “last week” of Daniel starts in June, 2009.

Remember, that in any harvest, the first fruits are “first,” and not the “only” fruits, meaning there is “the rest” of the harvest to come.

Remember, that Jacob’s trouble is only 3 ½ years, or 42 months. Daniel speaks of one week., or 7 years.

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My definition of the “last week” – 3 ½ years are accounted for – the others are not specifically given- it just adds up to 7 years:

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Since First Fruits occur before the 3 1/2 months of summer, and before the Fall Feasts, I am assuming that the First Fruits (Shavuot) of 2016 (who are the 144,000) will precede the 3 1/2 years of Jacob’s trouble. 

This would also mean that the 6 seals would come before 2016 as well.

Remember also, that the popular date, December 21, 2012 is not a biblical date, but a Mayan one.

This world was created on God’s calendar, not the Mayan, and He promised a new heaven, a new earth, and eternal life for those who trust in Him.

So, will the 1967 Jerusalem date calculations be useful in evaluating what will happen next?

We will soon find out.

Note:  I could be off by a year here, also.

See also:

The 144,000 and the rest of the Jews Click here for more.

 


100 Responses to “Counting the Omer to the Last Week of Daniel”

  1. The Lord said to me:

    ‘You are the first kind.’

    • Long story made short. I truly believe the rapture is going to happen this Yom Teruah 2009. Why do I say this. Well for past 6 years the Holy Spirit has been showing me 918 on digital clocks at work, home, and in my car. This has been my burning bush experience. Then I started to see it in on license plates while I was driving. Then I would see it on house addresses. At first I thought I was losing my mind because September 18th is my birthday and I felt I was also going to die that day, but then the Holy Spirit was urging me to dig deeper because I saw a DVD of the Matrix movie last year and when Neo’s alarm clock goes off the time was 9:18 on his clock. At that point you could have pushed me over with a feather because I knew beyond a shadow of a doubt G-d wanted me to know something important. Yes I am saved and I am a bible believing Christian, but I was a sleeping unaware of my Hebrew roots Christian. I knew nothing about the Feasts of the Lord, until I discovered Hewbrew4Christians.com. I was stunned and the more I checked into how the Hebrew calendar worked the more I became convinced that God does reveal secrets to his servants. We need to watch and pray. It does not matter what we call ourselves if we have accepted the Lord Yeshua as our savior Check out rapture2009.org and look at a Jewish Holiday Calendar and see how many holidays have September 18th in it for the next few years. Another good website is rapturesite.com

      Peace,
      Chandra

      p.s Chandra means like the moon in sanskrit. Yom Teruah is determined by the new moon. Erev Rosh Hoshanah is September 18th at 6:44 pm which is also a Shabbat. God uses signs to get our attention. website: http://www.rapture2009.org.

      • Hi Chandra

        interesting thought about 918. There is much discussion now about the time of Jacob’s trouble, but no one is sure about when hte rapture would take place.

        The feast of trumpets would make sense. Scripture says something about the “last trump,” although it does not distinguish between the last trump blown on the first day or on the last day.

        Maybe, the High holy days is the right time for a rapture.

      • Well?

  2. VERY interesting Marianne! I always LOVE when you send me new updates from your site!! =) It’s always GOOD STUFF!! =)

    LOVE,CATRINA

  3. Hey Marianne- What do you think of this video? Love-Catrina 🙂

  4. A small correction. The Feast of Shavuot is 50 days after the Feast of First Fruits, which always falls on the first day of the week following the weekly Sabbath with commences after the Feast of Unleavened Bread begins. For example, if Passover began on a Tuesday evening then the Feast of Unleavened Bread would begin on a Wednesday evening. Though the first day of Unleavened Bread is considered a Sabbath, the counting of the Omer wouldn’t start until after the weekly Sabbath, or Saturday evening at sunset, which also happens to be the Feast of First Fruits. And actually, you are to count 7 weeks of Sabbaths (49 days) and then celebrate Shavuot on the following day (50 days).

    This doesn’t pertain to the overall message you are communicating, but I hope it clarifies a bit.

    Keep up the good work!

    • Hi Gina,

      I sort of said that, but I could have been more clear. The counting goes on for 49 days, and Shavuot is on Day 50. But, I should have used June 13, 2016 above instead of June 12th, to indicate the 50th year. I can try to correct this some time today. thanks.

  5. Hey everyone……the comments somehow got deleted….so I added them back.

    marianne

  6. Hi,

    Tell me what do you think of this page?
    http://www.christianinconnect.com/ltsigns.htm

    Time is so very short!
    Not the time to play!
    The seven angels of Fire
    have been given a mission …
    from Heaven!

  7. Oral tradition recorded from the Vilna Gaon advises Jews to observe carefully when the Russian fleet (Magog) passes from the Black Sea through the Bosporus to the Mediterranean. “It is now the time to put on your Sabbath clothes because the Messiah is coming.”

  8. Hi Marianne,

    The reaping of the First Fruits by God is not the way people think.
    There has to be a separation from the physical.
    At least this is my understanding.

    I am providing a link of an experience ….

    http://www.electsfire.com/home.html

  9. Side discussion with Gina…….as to when first fruits is celebrated…apparently, there are 2 interpretations of this….here are thoughts as to how to resolve this…



    What Gina shared:

    They cannot both be the correct interpretation. It depends on how you lay out Lev. 23. Both verse 10 and verse 17 talk about a first fruit offering but they are 50 days apart! You have raised some good questions and I guess it just has to be studied out.

    Here are two opposing views:
    Early view, posted at http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=9&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjudahhimango.com%2Fbob%2Ffeast%2520of%2520first%2520fruits.doc&ei=RGtSSvGuAoSa8gTa2sWDBA&usg=AFQjCNF-tili8Wm17-38ill4YNHDyEw5EA&sig2=eLOujrZzOAOG9Y_QHbOc4g

    Late view, posted at http://fkiprofessor.xanga.com/480899238/item/

    My thoughts:

    I think it is related to when the barley is ready ( ABIB). You cannot have first fruits of a harvest that is not ready yet. Passover month cannot commence until the barley is abib, or somewhat ripe. If it is abib, then Passover takes place, and the wave offering occurs during the feast of unleaven bread. If it is not abib, then jews have to wait a month before having passover.

    http://www.karaite-korner.org/abib.shtml

    One account I heard was that the first barley stalks are “marked” for the wave offering ahead of time before Passover. (In the same way, the 144,000 are “sealed” before the time of Jacob’s trouble) They are tied off as almost ready. Then Passover comes, and a sample of this is what is waved during Unleaven bread.

    Comparing to the resurrection of Jesus, remember when he rose, he told others not to touch him yet, he had not arisen to the Father yet, and so he was not quite ready. Jesus was “abib.”

    On Pentecost, the harvest was complete, and the Feast of First Fruits was celebrated as then the entire field was harvested. In the same way, the harvest for Jesus was the descent of the holy spirit upon the apostles, and the salvation of 5000 people in one day.

    those are my thoughts…what do you think?

    • Of whom are you asking this question?

      • anyone…..we are trying to figure out why there are 2 first fruit feasts, or it just seems that way.

        • If the barley stalks are marked … and I am not saying they are not …
          for the wave offering …
          I can for CERTAIN assure you that this is not the same as the 144,000
          being marked by the Angel of God.

    • Here is a thought that strikes me between the eyes …
      Jesus says :
      I have not yet gone to My Father and … To your Father.

      But I don’t think this has anything to do with Abib

      Another thing here you cannot say the entire field was ready …
      because the field is the ‘WORLD’
      and so the entire world was NOT harvested.
      Further the gospels had not yet been preached to the entire world.

  10. Marianne,

    I just don’t understand you.
    You are looking at harvest timeS in ISRAEl.
    Are you looking for the physical harvest of Barley as first fruits unto The Lord??
    Are you looking for the timeSS when every year is different? (in Israel)
    Are you looking for knowledge of 144,000 sealed with The Father’s Name?

    I must come from another world … because I do not understand??
    In your own words your question gives the answer.

    If I was asking what time it is in N.Y.
    What sense would it make if I answered you ‘the time in California is …’
    I am sorry because … I don’t know the times of harvest IN Israel.

    • hi abigail

      I am thinking of another post….so it is a bigger picture than just the barley…..

      don’t stress over it….. you would have to be able to read my mind….and my mind has not finished thinking yet

      however, remarks people make are food for thought for me

      so sometimes, even a small remark you make can help me solve a puzzle.

      so go ahead and write any thoughts you have….they are always welcome

  11. Hi Marianne,
    It might be a little speculation on my part, and might be an incorrect assumption, but from my calculations of the day of the First fruits redemption occurs on May the 9th 2011 in Australia, as we are earlier in changing the day seeing we are East of Jerusalem.
    As you are aware of how I arrived at that date 40 years – i.e. 1967 – 2007 – from Jerusalem’s Unification. Adding the last seven years from Rosh Hashanna (5766/5767) which ends also coincidentally JUST LIKE the Gregorian Calendar 6/7/’67 or a succession of 6’s and 7’s … This Hebrew NEW YEAR of 5767 being the “starters pistol” for the last week of years.
    Getting back to the 9th of May 2011, I arrived at that date from counting 1,335 days that Dan.12:12 [Hint 12×12=144] says that those who “Wait” will be “Blessed”. If you are WAITING you must be EXPECTING! I don’t know if those in the USA have the same word to describe a WOMAN who is Pregnant, but the Expectant Woman is portrayed in Rev.12:2. And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
    …This is also a play on words with more than ONE meaning.
    As I see it, the Devil is cast out of heaven and confined to our earth to make way for the Firstfruits. Another HINT 12×12=144 …
    Rev.12:12. Therefore rejoice, [ye] heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
    …After digressing a little, this May the 9th 2011 [1335days wait] is 50 days AFTER Shushan Purim. I understand it is something to do with Queen Esther’s dealing with the DEATH decree on all Jewish people?
    …Bye the way, May 9th 2011 is Yom Hazikaron [If it has any significance]- Going to our promised Land?

    • Olef,

      Those who wait will be blessed …
      Reminds me of when The Lord says: ‘Blessed are those who have not seen yet believe.’

      And the unspoken yet heard :’Blessed are they who have seen but have delayed’.

      Brilliant!! Of course they are willing to wait because they have seen.
      And of course it is precisely as a woman who is pregnant.
      She knows what glory she carries within her womb…
      because she feels Him Move.
      And of course that ‘Holy Glory is attached to the Throne of God.’
      And yes she does cry to be delivered or to bring forth the holy essence of God.

      And yes the devil pursues her to ‘try’ to destroy her because of what is within her.
      And yes the earth does help her.

      I find it amazing that you can link this to Queen Esther, because the sealing of God has everything to do with Esther.
      … THE GREAT MASK OF THE LORD….

      AMAZING!!!!

      We are expecting!
      And we are patient.
      And of course

      • … those who have seen and delayed did so for your good…
        because seeing what lays ahead and loving what they see ..
        they would not achieve it only for themselves.
        Like Esther knew that if the people died … so would she …

        • And I must add here that the saviorS (many) are the 144,000 sealed servants of The Lord!!

          As it is written:

          Nehemiah 9:27 Therefore you delivered them into the hand of their adversaries, who distressed them: and in the time of their trouble, when they cried to you, you heard from heaven; and according to your manifold mercies you gave them saviors who saved them out of the hand of their adversaries

          Obadiah 1:21 Saviors will go up on Mount Zion to judge the mountains of Esau, and the kingdom will be Yahweh’s.

          A lot of meat here …
          Like the riddle of Samson.

  12. Riddle of Samson is interesting…

    “Out of the eater came forth meat, and out of the strong came forth sweetness.” Judges 14:14

    Simple interpretation of the riddle as Delilah interpreted words of Samson related its meaning to her people, that the carcass of a young lion which Samson had killed with his bare hands had attracted a swarm of bees who produced honey therein.

    But, Samson’s riddle may be a prophecy that the descendants of the tribe of Dan will one day try to destroy the tribe of Judah in jealous revenge for God’s judgment on their idolatry. From the carcass of the young lion [Judaism] the tribe of Dan [typified by the bees] will attempt to produce a golden age [symbolized by honey].

    Could explain why tribe of Dan is missing from 144,000 sealed servants of the LORD.

    Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. Psalm 22:12

    Strong bulls of Bashan = Sorcerers from the tribe of Dan persecuting Christ’s servants via sorcery of the Sacred Calf.

    • Dan’s symbol is the serpent … and yes they are missing from those accounted worthy
      to bear The Name of God.
      The carcass of the young Lion … killed by the ‘hands of Samson’ laid in the hot sun
      until … ‘Samson came back that way’…..
      It is then that Samson finds the honey.

    • The bull means the bull market, the idolisation of wealth and money. Created by the tribe of Dan in the West, meaning the elect by the Lord will be persecuted financially, will not be able to buy or sell without the mark of the beast of which the bulls of Bashan (the wealthy godless) are a part of. The Sorcerers from the tribe of Dan are the economists and brokers who deal and generate in illusions and money making manipulations. They are also the ones who operate in secret and secret societies – the serpent, illuminati, masons etc.

  13. Hi Marianne,

    You say the world was ‘created’ on Gods’ calendar not on the Mayan.
    And I find that amazing and well hidden.

    The Mayan date of the winter solstice is not about ‘creation’ is it?
    And if it is … on the dead of winter, then the dead of whom or what?
    I think the ‘big event’ portrayed by the mayan calendar …
    refers to ‘the big bang’.

    And you know I am not a big bang theorist!

    • Mayans worshipped Lucifer, so it is he who revealed them the calendar in his own interests. December 2012 is in Jewish year 5773 – the year when Mashiach begins to reveal his power in the world, and Antichrist will try to sabotage that, that’s why I beleive “abomination of desolation” takes place after 5773 not earlier…

      • hi gavriel

        it never hurts to know what the devil is up to. so, i can see how keeping 2012/5773 in mind is not a bad idea.

        • The power of the Mashiach will slowly begin to descend in the world, but the Antichrist and his followers through sorcery will try use this for their own purpose, as far that it will appear as if fire descended on the sacrifice of the prophets of Baal, while sacrifice of Elijah will seem rejected – this will be the ultimate test. As it says: “And it shall be one day that shall be known to the Lord, neither day nor night; and it shall come to pass that at eventide it shall be light.” Zech.14:7 – Blessing will be mixed with curses, it will be almost impossible to distinguish one from another.

          • Shalom, you write “the power of our Mahiach will slowly begin to descend in the world”. Really that is an very interesting point, can you describe it more? As i read this, the “indigo-children” came in my mind. If they are real (dont know), Yeshua could be influencing them with his power and the New-Ager would use them for their own purpose.
            Gavriel, were you jewish before you got christian?

      • Yes I know .. I have visited many of their sites and am very knowledgeable in their history of sacrifices to their deities.

  14. When we look at the one week of Daniel as seven years … we seem to be forgetting that the seventh year is a Sabbath.

    • excellent point……that makes the suffering one year less..

      • Also when you look at seventy weeks … you must remember the Sabbath.
        This Law of God applies to all numbers.
        And that is why the fourth commandment of god begins with …
        “REMEMBER.’

        • To continue here when we look at Ezekiel …

          we find that The Lord him a prophecy to enact. Ezekiel lay on his right side for 390 days for the 390 years of iniquity of the children of Israel. Then he lay on his left side for 40 days for the 40 years of the iniquity of the people of Judah. The total years of iniquity were 430 years. (390 + 40 = 430).
          For 430 years God’s people refused to keep the sabbaticals and the Jubilees holy to God. The land was kept from its rest during the 70 sabbath years.
          Ezekiel 4:4 -6
          So this was for 70 Sabbaths without rest.

  15. According to tradition, occupation of the Holy Land by Antichrist will last 9 months, based on Micah 5:2 “Therefore, He shall deliver them until the time a woman in confinement gives birth (=9 months). And the rest of his brothers shall return upon the children of Israel.”

    This 9 months probably take place in the seventh year.

    • So, the “one hour” is 9 months? Or is the world domination broken after one hour, but AC remains in Jerusalem for 9 months?
      “And the ten horns which you saw are ten kings, who have not yet received a kingdom, but they receive authority as kings with the beast for one hour. These have one purpose and they give their power and authority to the beast. REV 17”

      And, what does “receive” in this scripture mean? Did Jesus mean Judah will receive the false Messiah?
      “I am come in my Father’s Name but you will not receive Me. Another will come in his own name and him you will receive.”
      (John 5:43)

      • “I the LORD will hasten it in its time.” – Isaiah 60:22

        How can the LORD hasten it, if it happens in its time? IT’S A MIRACLE!

        “And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.” – Mat. 24:22

        Time of Jacob’s trouble which are to last 3.5 years in the merit of the righteous will only last 9 months, 9 months will be like one hour and one hour will be like a blink of an eye – for the sake of the elected!

  16. Are we not all awaiting for Mashiach Ben David?
    In Florence, Italy is a despicable statue sculpted by Michaelangelo , whom the world praises as a ‘superb artist’.
    The David of Michaelangelo. How many times replicated and sold and bought?
    It is an abomination to The Lord!
    King David in the nude!
    King David uncircumcised!
    A Sculpture of King David!
    How far has man gone from God?
    Every representation of Jesus the child … uncircumcised!
    The Lord has put this on my heart and I must speak against this abomination.
    How much has Rome sought to mock The Lord???
    How blind the people are??? yes how blind!!!
    The day is coming and I tell you A TRUTH …
    EVERY KNEE WILL BOW!!!
    And woe to those who have mocked Him!

    • AMEN !
      But sad for our relatives and friends who are not awakening to the truth, the TRUTH, Yeshua Lord in essence

      • They have tried their hardest to pollute the seed of God.
        The Lord is full of pity for those who are blind.
        But … The Fury of The Lord is reserved for those who mock Him,
        for those who despises Him,
        for those who DO evil,
        and for those who in their hearts say ‘there is no God.’
        And the Wrath of The Lord is reserved for those who lead man
        to follow doctrines of devils!!

    • well, abigail….you did it again.

      I never looked at David’s private parts until you pointed out he was uncircumcised.!!!!!

      • I never did either … until The Lord woke me up a couple of nights ago and
        told me all about it.
        Actually I might have seen Michealangelos’ David back in the 60s’ in a book in art classes.
        Had not ever thought about it all these years.
        And so just to inform you that it is God who is very upset.

  17. Here I will praise The Holy Name of The Lord.
    He is the reason that I Live.

  18. Concerning the 144,000 sealed of God …
    It is written in psalms 32:20
    ‘He sealed me and concealed me
    In His Secret Place.’

  19. israeli soldiers playing….


  20. Hi Abigail,
    I am a little curious about that verse you quoted from Psalms 32! As my bibles [All translations I posses], have got only 11 verses, thus your quote from verse 20 has got me puzzled.

    • typing error … psalms 31
      Very good of you to have picked that up.
      I realized it after submitting the comment … and decided to leave it intact …

  21. Hi Marianne ,

    I think you are right …
    2009 is the start of seven yrs. Tribulation.

    • p. s.

      After submitting the above comment … I just happened to take note of the comment ##
      It reads comment – 11666
      Strange???
      This is very strange!!

    • I thought that if you followed the years of Daniels’ 70 years there were only 31/2 not accounted for and if we took the trodding of Jerusalem from Alexanders meeting with the priest outside Jerusalem from his dream which is 333 bc and add the 1967 of the uniting of Jerusalem divided by the Gentiles and restored to the Jews as a restored nation in 1967, the 2300 years that the angel told Daniel that the time of the Gentiles is filled then the Blessed are those that come to the extra 45 days would be added to 1967 would be 2012 plus the last 3 1/2 years so when Jerusalem was restored whole after being divided as the posting says uh would be the 2016 of the Omer. I have always assumed that this time of Jacobs Trouble is passed and still do since the time of the Judgement on the gentile nations began in 1967. I do not doubt the troubles on the earth today are the beginning of the Lords’ dealings with the gentile nations because these are His mercy calls which always precede His judgements. Israel is His instrument now to judge the beast of Islam. Of this I have no doubt for she is as sheaf of fire and He has set Israel in place for this last Judgement call for the Nations to repent of their hatred to His people. I did appreciate the counting of the Omer on this site since I was of course not acquainted with it before and it seems to fill up the rest of these scriptures. Hmmmm! So much to learn from our eldest brethren the Jews, thank you.

  22. This is a video on “The Real Truth about Israel and Jerusalem” The only reason I’m posting is is goes with the first picture of the post.

    This is really different; The web site is http://www.youtube.com/user/ThePeaceOfIslam#p/a

    But it’s Christian.

  23. Mordechai Ben David Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Marianne;

    okay;
    What does Ve’ata banim shiru shiru La Melech, Betiferet mefoar,ve’ashrai avadav oy avadav, hamashmiim bekol shivcha mean?

  25. Why do only the guys have fun?

  26. Awsome stuff Marianne, you are spot on, If this helps, my Orthodox Jewish husband who loves Yeshua was told in a dream last year that the beginning of the end was 2013. I think your counting of the omer is the middle of the tribulation, then there will be Israeli elections again, could this be the last 31/2 years of Jacobs troubles? we will see. However everyone knows this will be BB last term of office, but who will come after is the question and whoever they are will they be betrayed etc….

    The End Times

    12 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered. Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake [the rapture]: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt. 3 Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. 4 But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.”

    5 Then I, Daniel, looked, and there before me stood two others, one on this bank of the river and one on the opposite bank. 6 One of them said to the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, “How long will it be before these astonishing things are fulfilled?”

    7 The man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, lifted his right hand and his left hand toward heaven, and I heard him swear by him who lives forever, saying, “It will be for a time, times and half a time. When the power of the holy people has been finally broken, [the removal of the holy spirit [the restrainer of satan, all my words in brackets] from the earth along with his elect who’s new names are written on white stones, revelations 2-17; this was how ancient Greeks used to get elected with black and white stones, my words] all these things will be completed.” [Then the time of Jacobs trouble commences, the last 3 1/2 years, my words]

    8 I heard, but I did not understand. So I asked, “My lord, what will the outcome of all this be?”

    9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

    “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days (the rebuilt temple used by the ‘interfaithist’, read Ezekiel 8. Blessed is the one who waits for [the Lords return before they act or react in protest against the beast etc.] and reaches the end of the 1,335 days. Daniel 12

    1335-1290= 45 days, also counting the omer.

    Could the rapture be after the first 3 1/2 years, the date you have stated above counting the omer June 2016, the exact day and hour of which no one knows.

    • hi crystal

      I see the 45 days at the end of Jacob’s trouble, not he beginning. maybe 45 days from the end of the high holy days to Hannukah, and the purification and re-dedication of the temple.

      the significance of Shavuot 2016 will be more evident as time passes. Like I said above it could signal the beginning, middle or end of trouble.

      My sense is that we will all see trouble, but Yeshua said to endure to the end, and that he would come back when the sun turned dark, the moon turned red, etc. (Matt 24) This happens at the 6th seal.

      possibly the 6 seals take 3 1/2 years.

      I would expect the full time of trouble to start and end in the fall, since those feasts need to be fulfilled. Unless I am wrong, and Yeshua can be seen as fulfilling all of them while he was here.

      If he can be seen as fulfilling all of them, then jacob’s trouble can start at any time of year.

      also possible is the rapture of the bride in the spring ( wheat and barley harvest) and then a second coming for the rest of the harvest in the fall ( olive and grape harvest)

      Harvest Times in the Last Days

      • Hi there Marianne, thanks for your reply, but during my daily bible study the Lord revealed to me the soft barley are the elect and are not to be beaten or crushed when they are harvested but are to be merely shaken up in the air (the clouds) for the chaff to be sifted out, it is the (first) of the grain harvest on Shavout. Then counting the omer come the wheat harvest after the barley that must be literally trashed. As for the grapes, well they must be crushed but this all comes after the barley harvest which is the first.

        • Ooppss, wheat must be THRASHED or threshed out.

        • Crystal and Marianne,

          Excellent information (research) within this post and your additonal “insights” are a blessing, thank you Lord.

          Again, here is the words of knowledge given on November 14, 2012.

          November 14, 2012 – in a humble mid-week bible study in a little church within a small Iowa town, the Lord came to us with a word of knowledge.

          That evening (only 6 of us attending this bible study), one woman said the Lord led her to read John 4:34-38, that week and she wanted to share this with us.

          “Jesus said to them, ‘My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work. 

          Do you not say, ‘There are still four months and then comes the harvest’? 

          Behold, I say to you, lift up your eyes and look at the fields, for they are already white for harvest. And he who reaps receives wages, and gathers fruit for eternal life, that both he who sows and he who reaps may rejoice together. For in this the saying is true: ‘One sows and another reaps.’

          I sent you to reap that for which you have not labored; others have labored, and you have entered into their labors” (John 4:34-38, NKJV).

          When she finished reading, I knew the message within the verses (“in 4 months”) and said, “I can add to those verses. The Lord gave me Joel 2:21-24 over a year ago.

          “Fear not, O land; Be glad and rejoice, for the Lord has done marvelous things!

          Do not be afraid, you beasts of the field; For the open pastures are springing up, and the tree bears its fruit; The fig tree and the vine yield their strength.

          Be glad then, you children of Zion, and rejoice in the Lord your God; For He has given you the former rain faithfully, and He will cause the rain to come down for you— The former rain, and the latter rain in the first month [Nisan].

          The threshing floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with new wine and oil” (Joel 2:21-24, NKJV).

          These words of knowledge tell me ~ there will be a revival coming in 4 months (November 14 to March 14 is 4 months),  which is the first month in the Hebrew calendar [Nisan]. It is the harvest and He is preparing us to take in (John 4:34-38).

          Then, later that evening during prayer time, the Lord entered our room:

          My heart became “big” and “warm”, the room became “full” like I was underwater (scuba diving experience), without the ear pressure; the woman who read from John began speaking in tongues; then, the Pastor interpreted – “the Lord says to prepare strategically.”

          Once the Pastor spoke – the room and my heart returned to normal. I then said to Pastor: “I know what the Lord is telling us” (John and Joel verses included).

          “The foolish will be turning to the wise asking “tell me about Jesus!” This is not just about a community or region, this is a worldwide revival. Prepare for a great harvest.”

          Please, read Zechariah chapters 1 and 2.

          Zachariah is very prophetic with a great deal of information. Does this apply to 2013? Maybe.

          The 11th month and the 24th day as written within Zachariah chapter 1:7-9 is sunset Feb 3 into the 4th (Gregorian). 

          The red horse in Zachariah just may be the same red horse as the second rider with 2 Seal.

          Zachariah 1:7-8

          “On the twenty-fourth day of the eleventh month, which is the month Shebat, in the second year of Darius, the word of the Lord came to Zechariah the son of Berechiah, the son of Iddo the prophet: I saw by night, and behold, a man riding on a red horse, and it stood among the myrtle trees in the hollow; and behind him were horses: red, sorrel, and white. Then I said, “My lord, what are these?” So the angel who talked with me said to me, “I will show you what they are.”

          Very good interpretation of these verses are located within this link.

          http://focusonjerusalem.com/manamongthemyrtletrees.html

          Blessings
          Psalm 84

          • dj

            It is with excitement, joy and dread at the same time that I wait for what is next. For me, it is the excitement, but for those I love who are lost, it is with dread. I pray that all unsaved loved ones are reached and saved and can come with us when the Lord calls us up.

          • Thank you DJ for your kind words and the link, I quickly checked out the document, looks pretty good, so am excited to read. Below is the excerpt from the end I thought good for posting, as it inspired me immensely.

            ” This story climaxes in the midnight hour of secrecy when a most unlikely heroine, an accursed Gentile (typical of the Gentiles of this age), who had found grace in the eyes of a mighty Jew of wealth (typical of Jesus Christ), places herself at his feet to claim the right of kinsman redemption, and this virtuous woman is accepted. In turn, the precious fruit of their marriage becomes “A Restorer of Life” to Israel (Ruth 4:15 & Romans 11:31).

            Hebrew scholars tell us that the phrase, “[God] Who did not withhold His kindness,” is only found in two places in the Hebrew Scriptures— the story of Isaac and Rebecca (Genesis 24:27), and the story of Ruth and Boaz (Ruth 2:20). Both of these stories, I believe, were
            designed of God to prefigure this present Age of Grace.

            All praise, honor and glory be to God the Father and to His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord. The Holy Spirit inspired James to write and make reference to the church of Jesus Christ as being “brought forth by the Word of truth so that we might be, as it were, the firstfruits among His creatures” (James 1;18).

          • Hi DJ I had made a mistake in my blog, the link you supplies looks good too so I will research it further and get back to you if anything comes to mind. However, the document I was refering to in my posting was the link given by Accepted below: http://www.separationtruth.com/resources/Pentecostal+Rapture+new.pdf

            this is worthy of a read also and worth a look… I do apologise for my distinct lack of experience at web chat sites.

        • hi crystal

          I can also see your viewpoint. To me, it is still very possible that the wheat can come with the barley if they are tested in time and are found faithful. Some wheat have been tested, and some have not right now. The testing has to be done before June of the year of the rapture.

          • Yes you are indeed correct Marianne, amen I hope so too as the whole of our lives is indeed a testing time is it not? More for some than for others, so we all have no excuses left anymore which is why the Lord comes this time round as the God of Justice. However, he also revealed to me and my husband by Bible study and our dreams that the shaking of a sieve for the barley I was talking about above is when the earth will be severely shaken by a great comet that will make a close fly by, thus the sun being eclipsed & turning to sackcloth and the moon eclipse turning it to blood. There will be sever earthquakes all over the place and great land masses will sink into the sea, where they are fracking the earth is turning it into biscuit crumbs that will sink & collapse, crumble.

            Then after this because what’s left behind dust themselves off and still do not consider the Lord the comet, after its slingshot round the sun, will return to hit the earth. Then the sea will become like wormwood etc., My husband saw it hit off the coast of Asia in the Pacific ocean in the Asia Pacific region. My husband virtually saw a massive explosion of a volcano in Indonesia that would cover most of Australia in hot ash etc, then sink under the sea all except for Perth (the remnant), but this was being currently weighed in the balance. So over the last 3 years we have & are both been fighting the great spiritual battle to save the nation right now. And I must say it’s been an AWESOME adventure, not for the faint hearted that’s for sure, but one you would certainly never regret. But once we study the Lords word to receive his holy spirit we are then required to put on the armour of the Lord to commence his work. eg. be useful, purposeful, fruitful in both spirit and truth, word and deed, manner and form. Then we will be tested in the fire of the real world, then you will have had the dross fired out of you, to become like a precious jewel unto the Lord a highly refined metal like silver or Gold; which is what you become from the testing that wealth brings you), very few succeed in this one, as the temptations and bondages are weaker when your poor and simply cannot afford to waste your money on things that you idolise or will idolise and send you to an early grave.

            Then you are an OVERCOMER, you will have overcome all those nasty things complaints at the 7 churches and you will receive the rewards or the crowns of them. These are the gifts of the Holy Spirit within you when you overcome, then you will be barely unto the Lord a precious thing already tested by the fire of your life for loving the Living God and a faithful witness of his Son Yeshua. Which you will not be able to stop nor to help as this witness unto the Lord will bubble out of you and your mouth like a fountainhead at every opportunity and in everything you do wherever you are, etc. Then you will become like Barley, not to be thrashed, as you had already been thrashed in your life, to find yourself at the Lords feet already, he will not thrash you again. No, you will be RAPTURED or lifted up when these crucial times take place and at the crucial moment.

            This applies to everyone, both Jew and Gentile since the resurrection of Yeshua.

            However, the Lord also revealed to my husband in his dream that those who died a righteous life in the Lord, their souls returned to the Lord in heaven as living souls (as their souls were alive before they died, they were not spiritually dead); as the Lord is the Lord of the Living and he is SPIRIT. It was their bodies only that were buried. It is those (the Saints) & the Angels who would return with Christ to collect their bodies and those of us alive would transfigure to immortality and rise to the balconies of heaven (the clouds) where the women and children will remain, then the men would return to earth with Christ & the angels to go to war & shepherd those in Israel etc left behind, (the 2nd 3 1/2 years). Then when this is done, the new Jerusalem would come down out of the clouds as a bride adorned for her husband, or literally as brides adorned for their husbands, so to speak. 🙂 to claim their inheritance and dominion, (administration, to Gods laws, justice etc) as princes under Yeshua.

            So yes, can you imagine that, the likes of us will one day be literally fighting alongside Gideon, Judah Macabee, David all the ancient patriarchs and mighty men, wow, awesome stuff, my husband saw this in his dream too. The Lord also said to us we can already do this now in spirit and can receive their mantles if we like. All under Yeshuas mighty direction, revelation, etc, as he always reveals to my husband and I where and what to do next and where and what’s to come in advance, as he always prepares his children in advance. And we always ask him everything so we will not get caught in the hidden snares and traps etc. He is literally a Lamp unto our feet and we absolutely do no waiver of those stepping stones not to the right nor to the left. And we know all this both my husband and I from experience.

            The Lord also revealed to me by studying Paul that this is in fact the priestly order of Melchizadek, a priest by experience who’s word is power (effective) in the Lord (like Yeshua). Not by the inheritance of title as it was in the past for priests like Eli; who could not manage his wicked sons. This is why we must WAIT upon the Lord, if there’s no power (Holy Spirit) then the Lords not in it, or yet. Nothing you do will work or be effective, then when the Lord comes, your visitation, then you will know what to do, when, how, why, what for and the provision to do it. Then you’re on the eagles wings… 🙂

            THIS IS WHY IT IS SO IMPORTANT BE IN LOVE WITH THE LORD YESHUA. Literally ALL ELSE must and does come after that, including your husbands, wives, children, families, relatives etc., you must not idolise nothing, for the Lord indeed is jealous for you and will tolerate! ANYTHING to come between you and him first! and foremost… and how will you know how and where to walk & what to do anyway… Then all else will be added unto you, pressed down, running over, etc, etc… am sure you know the verses, if not, read them YOURSELF, :-)) I am sorry if I digressed too much or went bit off track, my fountainhead just went off, Praise The Lord… :-)))

            • Or the comet I mentioned above, the tail will send debris to hit the earth and a small comet may come out of that to slam into the pacific. Am not sure, but the comet will hit, which is what wipes out a third of everything.

            • Ooops, the Lord above will Not tolerate anything to come between you and him.

            • hi crystal

              I agree with that. Some call the “comet” planet x. the planet that is coming is actually a second sun, with planets around it and a huge debris field, which includes comets. the debris field has a lot of iron oxide in it, which comes off the second sun and is red in color. the debris field is what will send off your comet which will hit earth.

              From what I can understand, the first pass will shake the earth (6th seal), at which the Lord will rapture those who are ready, and then at the second pass, orbiting around, a comet and more debris will be let loose and hit the earth, (2nd and 3rd trumpets).

              • Wow, Marianne, that first passing is the ‘Barley being shaked in the sieve’ that the Lord showed me, I think in Amos… to be caught up in the air. The first harvest… there is both jew and gentile here.

                the 144,000, I think, are the first fruits of literal Israel (this includes those gentiles grafted in of course) at the end of the 3 1/2 years upon the testimony of the 2 witnesses Moses & Elijah. To be protected (concealed), shepherd and raised up & made immortal also, could this be at the time the 2 witnesses are told to ‘come up here’? could the 144,000 be going up with them to return for the threshing of the wheat harvest when Yeshua returns to the Mt of Olives with all the immortals.

                • if the 3 1/2 years of jacob’s trouble are finished by the 6th seal, I think the witnesses will also go up with everyone else

                  • Humm, Hi Marianne, I think the rapture is the going up to meet the Lord in the clouds only, then 3 1/2 years later will be his touching down on the Mt of Olives with all his host behind him. So technically speaking there could be two raptures so to speak. One of the barley after the first 3 1/2 years when the Lord comes as a thief in the night, one is snatched up while the other is left in the field etc., this is when the restrainer of satan (the Holy Spirit) is removed from the earth and his grace is removed from the church as the body of Christ has been raptured.

                    Then the other time of transfiguration for the wheat, olives & grapes could be after the second 3 1/2 years, when the wheat has received their thrashing, but do not harm the oil (olives) and the wine (grapes), these are those who have been anointed (oil) and sealed (by the in filling of the the holy spirit – wine) upon the testimony of the two witnesses and the 144,000 who follow the lamb wherever he goes. When the whole world will see the Messiah coming, as lightning flashes from east to west to touch down on the Mt of Olives. Could these be going up to meet the Lord when the Lord calls for the two witnesses to ‘come up here’ just as the Lord and his host are on their way down to the Mt of Olives?

    • Hi Crystal,

      Welcome to the site. 🙂

      You won’t be aware of this but I thought that I’d pass this on because it may be a confirmation of sorts to the dream that your husband experienced last year.

      On March 15th. 2012 I had my 40th. anniversary of being born again, and I wasn’t expecting anything out of the ordinary to occur at all, though in the past there have been some have been some significant supernatural occurrences that have taken place.
      Any way’s on April 17th. I felt the presence of the Lord ask me to start a fast. (Prior to this I had never fasted before once.)
      So having started this fast, I started to have Visions each night consecutively for the next 7 days, with the last Vision on April 23rd. 2012, being 40 days after my 40th. year anniversary.

      This last vision was of the text of Revelation 1:3. as recorded in the King James Version with the last 5 words, “THE TIME IS AT HAND” vibrating and shimmering and in larger type, and that while looking at these words, I then heard and audible Voice proclaim them out loud with authority. (which I don’t mind saying at all, totally freaked me out!) And if one were to delve into the etymology of the original Greek and its root word definitions, those last five (5) words could be easily translated and defined as meaning, “For the time when things are brought to a crisis, and the decisive epoch that those that are close to God have waited for is now.”

      Now, this fast ended up lasting for a total of 40 days, (which consequently happened to leave me exactly 40 lbs. lighter to boot) but what is significant here is this, the fast itself culminated on Shavu’ot, and that during this fast I understood that the “gathering or rapture” would take place on that date.
      I had previously thought and believed that it would take place on Yom Teru’ah, but now during that time I was fasting, I was confident that it was going to definitely be on the last Shavu’ot, and was amazed and totally confused when it didn’t occur. However, simply because it didn’t occur on the last one, does not mean that it won’t on one in the future.

      Since then I have searched out some studies on the net to see if this topic and date has been researched by others in depth and have found this one to be of particular interest. It is 33 pages long but well worth the read.
      Here’s the link…. http://www.separationtruth.com/resources/Pentecostal+Rapture+new.pdf

      Be Blessed in Yeshua HaMashiach, our Most Holy and Precious Savior.

      Amen.

      • Ooop’s,
        Sorry for the double “have been some’s” above.
        lol.

      • Hi there Accepted, I had mistakenly posted my reply to you above thinking you were DJ, please read my response to him. Thank you all for your warm welcome and wonderful blessings.

        • Hi Crystal,

          No problem regarding the mix up. lol.
          I have been wondering though, when did your hubby receive his dream last year? Does he or you remember the approximate date?

          Be Blessed In Yeshua HaMashiach our Most Holy and Precious KING.
          Amen.

          • Which dream? we have lots and I’m not to sure what I have mentioned in my discussions. But being told 2013 was the beginning of the end revelation was sometime between Hanukah 2011 and early January 2012.

  27. Hi Crystal,

    Always enjoyed listening to Jack. Reading his work is good too, thank you. I attended a Four Square fellowship for a few years, experiencing a prophetic vision and “word of knowledge” in the same evening during a retreat (2004). But, Jack is a little off on his Darby “Pre-Tribber” view.
    If Pre-Trib means the full 7 years, Jack missed the “signs” and 3 seals. Oh, well.

    Found Mark Blitz study of Feasts more concise and precise – Mark is Hebrew by birth/life, loves our Massiah as a full time Pastor/Teacher.

    In the first five minutes of this presentation there is a wealth of information. The longer you view, the more good Hebrew intel. Seriously good.
    I’m not into “rapture” dialogue as much as preparing as His servant and warrior in His Army (Joel 2:11) for the work He calls us to do, until He comes in the clouds to gather us unto himself or we go to sleep in His arms.
    Passover 2013 will be very revealing and speculation will shift to a Mid-Tib rapture (Pentacost). Maybe? I don’t think so. I think Fall Feasts: Trumpets or Day of Atonement
    2016. Those 2 Feasts have more than one day. So, no one could know “the day or the hour” literally. The purpose of those Feasts are also applicable to “the end of the age and His soon coming.”
    Blessings to you as we all prepare our vessels (filled with oil) and remaining in fellowship with like minded believers within our home.

    I found Mark

    • Hi DJ,

      Well I certainly don’t disagree with you regarding the importance of ensuring that our personal relationship with Yeshua is paramount.
      That He is our First Love, the Rock of our Foundation, and that we rely upon Him solely in Faith.
      But you never did bother to read that link that I asked you to read did you?
      Sigh…. I forgive you. lol.
      But seriously bro, please consider it.

      Be Blessed in Yeshua Melech Hakavod.
      Amen

      • Accepted,

        Yup, I was distracted by something and didn’t check out the link. Got some time today/night and Monday. Please send the link via a reply here.

        There is so much confirmation coming from reliable sources (Marianne included), that our speculation, interpretations and some
        debating will be shifting to a wilderness experiences.
        So, for the next few week – let’s dialogue as we prepare our lamps and fill our vessels with the Kingdom (His righteousness, peace and joy in the Spirit).
        Blessings
        Psalm 20

  28. Accepted,

    I read this yesterday (Crustal sent the same Jack link/message).

    Jack is a good teacher but trying to hard, using false “data”. He also missed a sign (09/29/11) and 3 seals.

    Jack pins the Jubilee year to 1948 (nation of Israel established) so that the next Jubilee (50 yrs) occurred in 1998. Then, we add 50 years and that equals 2048. 

    Jack missed the Jubilee count, the fig tree count, and unless he has updated this study – he missed the first 3 seals. He missed the sign in the heavens on 09/29/11 too.

    “The question that stirs our souls is not, “Will there be?” but, “When will be the Pentecostal Rapture of the Church of Jesus Christ?”  In the context of Romans 8, the Spirit of God does not appear to be informing us that the antitypical Pentecost will fall upon a literal Jubilee year in Israel.  It was true that the particular Pentecost that fell upon a Jubilee year in Israel was in 1998.

    As I have acknowledged, the Holy Spirit certainly did not set that date! The Holy Spirit has set a date all right! But that date is the perfect timing when God knows that the “fullness (50th) of the Gentiles has come in.”

    In turn, the Rapture of the Church will take place on schedule.  The reason this is true should be obvious to all!  This particular Firstfruits Harvest Feast has literally been named by the exact Date of its observance—”Weeks” or “Pentecost (50th).”

    After the counting of seven weeks, on the fiftieth day they were to offer two loaves of bread as a “New Grain Offering,” to be “waved” in the air before the Lord.  The Date of its observance is a main feature in its observance and in the typology!”(page 33).

    Thank you Jack, but after Passover 2013, we all know that we are in “Great Testing”. Then, those folks who where “Pre-Tribbers”  will be looking for a “rapture” every day. Some will expect a rapture on the next Feast day,  (Pentecost 2013), but they just don’t not know the hour. They know the day but not the hour.

    Jubilee Years:

    1967 was a Jubilee year. On the 7th day, at the end of the 6 Day War, Israel held Jerusalem. Jerusalem untied under Israeli governance as the spiritual/national capital. Today, this remains an issue. Even the US does not recognize Jerusalem as the capital because it is under dispute. Yet, on that day – the 7th day – Israel claims The City of David.

    50 years before 1967, there must be as significant event to be considered a Jubilee year. 

    1917. The fall of the Ottoman Empire and “Palestine” was open to Jewish settlement. An international agreement was made with the principle purpose “that Palestine should be reconstituted as the National Home of the Jewish people.”

    Going back from 1967, every 50 years, back hundreds of years, there is a significant event every 50 years.

    The next Jubilee (1967+) begins 2017. 

    Meaning – 2016 is the year before entering into God’s Rest. Feasts of Trumpets, Day of Atonement and Feasts of Tabernacles 2016 are going to hold significant events, before entering into God’s rest.

    Please watch Mark Blitz and his Hebrew study of Feasts days. If you don’t, okay.  

    Accepted, please accept this as my last and final reply to “rapture”,”Pre-Tribber”, “Pentecost Rupture” and other related posts/topics or questions.

     Would you do me a small favor? 

    You write that John Parsons (Hebrew for Christians), is a dear friend of yours.

    Please contact him personally, sharing with John that I contribute money to his work, quote him within posts (full credit/citation) and that within these two links there are some insights that could be helpful to his studies.

    We only have less than 60 days until Passover week. Then, all our interpretations, speculations and conjectures with long explanations of the end of the age and His soon coming with shift focus to personal wilderness experiences for the next 3.5 Hebrew calendar years, leading up to Feasts of Trumpets 2016.

    “Lost” Ark? God Forbid!

    Signs in the Heavens

    Blessings
    Psalm 40

    • I just thought I would throw this out there.

      according to some calculations, march 19-26, 4001 BCE was considered creation week.

      http://timeinthebible.com/?page_id=23

      seems things will end as they begun.

      March will be a significant month in any year.

    • Hi DJ,

      Obviously there was some confusion regarding that particular link, (I had suggested that Crystal and her husband take the time to read its content, and then she had also posted it also within her response, thinking that I was you), or something along those lines???

      Any way’s….. As you know, I would be the last person that wouldn’t respond with a resounding “Yes” to anyone that might inquire as to whether or not we are approaching a significant precipice. However, that doesn’t mean that I necessarily agree with all of what is being stated by others at this time.

      Many have been saying that Obama is the anti-Messiah based upon what are now, a few historical events. Which to me personally, (though I could most definitely be wrong), would suggest if anything, that he may be merely the first horseman of Revelation 6:1,2., and not the anti-Messiah.

      Some, (such as yourself), believe that an alignment of constellations that occurred was the heavenly sign that is described within Revelation 12. Others believe that it was the Jerusalem UFO. If either or both of those just happen to be wrong, then all of the corresponding calculations based upon their significance would also happen to be wrong, and the hermeneutics of others could still very well possess some validity.

      As I have said, I believe due to the imminency that I experienced during that last Vision, that something is indeed in the works. However due to the very first Vision, (which you may recall consisted of Scripture popping up in windows on a computer screen), I also believe that there is too much that is still “sealed up” and that no one has a complete understanding of eschatological events yet.

      This has all placed me into a utter state of Trust in the Lord, and instead of jumping on the latest band-wagon, I am instead watching and waiting within that state of Trust. The God Almighty is Sovereign and events will unfold just as He has planned. Amen.

      Regarding John, …. You are more than welcome to mention my name to him, (or even my nickname since you are aware of both of them), and let him know that you and I have corresponded in the past, but you can easily contact him yourself through his website. Both he and I are aware of Mark Blitz as well, and would agree with some things, and disagree with others.

      Be Blessed in Yeshua our Most Holy and Precious Savior.
      Amen.

  29. Crystal,

    Nice interpretation and insight!

    Okay, what about Rev 6:6 “don’t harm the oil and wine”?

    The 3rd seal is economic and the oil/win will not be harmed beyond the opening of this 3rd seal ~ throughout the remainder of the revelation, (assumption).

    The 144,000 are sealed, not harmed at all. 

    So this financial group (NWO), we understand as “the beast” (groups you listed) can not and will not harm the oil and wine. 

    What do you think?

    Blessings

    • Hi there DJ, I will give you the same reply I reply I gave to Marianne, for the oil and the wine not to be harmed beyond the 3rd seal, as they will not have the mark of the beast to engage in financial transactions to buy and sell and earn income, so will probably fall of the map or radar so to speak (become hidden) by the Lord as they will become dependent on him for their provision to overcome their dependence on babylon. It is in this way they will be hidden and safe till the Lord comes. No they won’t harm them
      for many reasons as they believe they are utterly powerless thinking in their worldly terms so imagine they will leave them to starve to death etc, for them to come round to receiving the mark of the beast etc.

      This is the stupidity of thinking in worldy terms – economic santions and the like. These are all the tools the beast uses today, spiritual wisdom they consider as folly so cannot understand it nor relate to it by their own experiences etc. But it is on this level that Gods people will operate and so be hidden, or fall of the radar while the world destroys eachother. And we also know in Isaiah 54:16-17 “See, it is I who created the blacksmith who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its work. And it is I who have created the destroyer to wreak havoc. No weapon forged against you will prevail and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord and this is their vindication from me, declares the Lord.”

      This means the Lord is in control of everything and causes evil to destroy itself in its own confusion, etc. But the Lord and his word is a lamp unto my feet I will OBEY and not waiver to the right nor to the left. So blessed are they who ‘wait’ the 45 days, for the Lord to touch down on the Mt of Olives. Blessed are those who remain hidden in other words till the Lord comes, then you can go to war. But the last 3 1/2 years are the time of the AC & the leviathan and his false prophet – interfaith the gentiles will trample half Israel & Jeruselem & the new temple under foot (the two state solution for the philistines) so will do what they please so in this time, read Zachariah 14 it gives you a complete picture of this time. So you are to remain quiet, conceled in your trust on the Lord – no protesting etc., no mater what they do in this time till the Lord makes his touch down at the end of the 7 year period or the last 3 1/2 years

      I think the rapture is the going up to meet the Lord in the clouds only, then 3 1/2 years later will be his touching down on the Mt of Olives with all his host behind him. So technically speaking there could be two raptures so to speak. One of the barley after the first 3 1/2 years when the Lord comes as a thief in the night, one is snatched up while the other is left in the field etc., this is when the restrainer of satan (the Holy Spirit) is removed from the earth and his grace is removed from the church as the body of Christ has been raptured. Then the other time of transfiguration for the wheat, olives & grapes could be after the second 3 1/2 years, when the wheat has received their thrashing, but do not harm the oil (olives) and the wine (grapes), these are those who have been anointed (oil) and sealed (by the in filling of the the holy spirit – wine) upon the testimony of the two witnesses and the 144,000 who follow the lamb wherever he goes. Then the whole world will see the Messiah coming, as lightning flashes from east to west to touch down on the Mt of Olives. Could these be going up to meet the Lord when the Lord calls for the two witnesses to ‘come up here’ just as the Lord and his host are on their way down to the Mt of Olives?

  30. just a yahshua fulfilled pesach, unleavened bread ,first fruits , pentacost .He will also fulfill the last three as well trumpets his 2nd appearing yom kipper the day of wrath sukkot he tabernacles with his people in the mellinium . not enough room for complete study. Remember they are Yahweh feasts not the Jews feast. This is his time clock.

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