Persian Ram a Red Horse


Iran is ready to bring about its Messiah. It will do all that is necessary.

Zec 6:1¶And I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and, behold, there came four chariots out from between two mountains; and the mountains [were] mountains of brass.

This prophecy mentions the chariots came from between 2 mountains. In the Iran map, we see a desert space between the 2 mountains.

Only Turkey and Iran have active mining areas that involve 2 mountains, and Iran is boldly identifying itself as the one interested in doing what is necessary to bring about its Mahdi vision, which includes

1. Destruction of Israel

2. Death of Saudi Prince Abdullah

3. World war and chaos

See also:

4 Horses – 4 Horns – 4 Beasts – of Zechariah and Revelation.

Goat – Ready to Fly Again


From the News:

Iran outlines its vision of upcoming End Times in its movie “The Coming”

Reference (1):

Ever since the Iranian Revolution of 1979, the Islamic rulers of Iran have declared themselves representatives of God on Earth, believing their mission is to pave the way for the reappearance of the last messiah, the Shiites 12th Imam Mahdi.

One of the most important events to securing the reappearance of the last Messiah, as called for in the Hadith, is the annihilation of Israel and conquering Beitol Moghadas (Jerusalem).

They state with conviction that Islam will soon conquer the world and all infidels will be destroyed.

*** For those who believe Islam is a religion of peace, you need to understand that unless you are Muslim, you are a target for execution in these plans. So, convert, or die.

The pursuit of nuclear bombs by the radicals ruling Iran is directly connected to this belief, as war, chaos, and lawlessness.

This movie has been produced in Iran by an organization called “Conductors of The Coming” in collaboration with the Iranian president’s office and the Basij (Iranian paramilitary force).

Reference (2):

According to the Iranian documentary (you can see a translated version here), the second coming of the Mahdi will occur in the near future.  

The documentary is based in Twelver Muslim theology to which many of Iran’s highest leaders subscribe.  Twelver Muslims are a branch of Shia (Shiite) Islam.

Although the Mahdi is not mentioned in the Koran, his return is discussed the hadiths, collections of narrative sayings by Islamic leaders.

Some of the signs of the Mahdi’s return discussed in the film include fear, earthquakes, and sedition throughout the world. 

Cultural decay, such as adultery, homosexuality, and women not wearing the hejab (head scarf and/or veil) are also cited.

Iraq, home to many of the world’s Shiites, is mentioned.

Twelvers believe that Iraq will be central to the conflicts that precede the Mahdi’s return as well as the eventual  capitol of the Mahdi’s worldwide Islamic caliphate. 

****Note: In this post, I predicted that Iran would act to take over Iraq, which is the basis for the current civil war going on there now. This helps to consolidate the “beast.” Now, Iran admits it.  This is what is behind the war in Iraq.

Bible predicts outcome of Iraq War


In the final battle against Israel, Iraqi forces will march under flags that say “Alghovah.”

The film focuses on the Shiite guerillas allied with al-Qaeda.

The death of a Saudi king named Abdullah is one of the key signs of the Mahdi’s return.

The current king of Saudi Arabia is named Abdullah and is suffering from an unspecified and possibly life-threatening illness.

The Twelvers believe that Palestine (Israel) is also central to their end-time prophecies. 

Imam Ali, the first imam after the Sunni-Shia split, said that Jews would come from the west and take control of Palestine while Arabs were divided. 

According the film, Jewish control would last “until the time that the Arabs rid themselves of the influence of others, take back control of their affairs, and once again have strong determination. 

At that time, they shall conquer the land of Palestine and the Arabs will be victorious and united.” 

The destruction of Israel is the most important event marking the Mahdi’s return.


Marianne’s thoughts: politics + religion

1. What does Alghovah mean? I hope someone can tell me.

2. Iran admits it needs the death of Saudi Prince Abdullah for the Mahdi to come.

So how will this come about?

Will Iran wait passively for a natural death, or will it instigate something that causes him to die before his time?

3. Iran admits in the film, and elsewhere before now, that its greatest goal is the destruction of Israel.

4. So what is the best, most efficient way for Iran to have the Prince Abdullah die, and destroy Israel at the same time, to make the Mahdi show up?

Possibly, a direct attack on Saudi Arabia, and have it blamed on Israel?

Since the world is becoming, in a satanic way, anti-semitic, the world will believe this.

Will this bring about a direct invasion of Israel by the nations?

Will this invasion be stopped, by allies, or God himself?

If Israel is destroyed, then the Messiah Jesus has nothing to return to.

5. There are several possibilities I see at this point:

a. The invasion of Israel could only be stopped by an antichrist figure, posing as Messiah. This starts the time of Jacob’s trouble, during which Israel is preserved in a wilderness experience.

b. Israel would be destroyed, and then rebuilt by Messiah. Some people believe this because Ezekiel mentions the Messianic kingdom in chapter 34, v 23-29, before the state of Israel is mentioned as “reborn” in chapter 37.

c. The antichrist would arise before an invasion, starting Jacob’s trouble, and the Battle of Armageddon occurs later, destroying him with the return of Christ.

Regarding possibility in (b), I do not see Israel being destroyed, since Jesus is predicted to return at Armageddon, and save Israel. The Messianic kingdom is established after that.

This is mentioned indirectly in Daniel, and directly in Zechariah, and Revelation.

Also, how would God gather the Jews to Israel when half of them are dead already? And why would he wait until half are dead, when His primary objective is to save them, not let them die?

Also, in the same chapter 34, v 11-16, God mentions gathering the Jews from all countries, and bringing them into their own land. And this is mentioned before the Messiah promise in v 23-29.

Also, if the Messiah has come in Chapter 34, why does Edom claim Israel as its own in Chapter 36, prior to an invasion that God destroys?

Personally, I think chapters 35-39 describe actual events, while chapter 34 is focused on the promises that precede the events. The promises are repeated in chapter 40: 27-29, after the events.

The Messiah will show up once in End Times, not twice.

And Israel was only predicted to be reborn once, not twice.

Furthermore, Zechariah 14 describes how all nations will come against Jerusalem, and the Lord Himself stops them. Half the city (Palestinian) goes into captivity, as the tribe of Judah is free to fight for itself.

Finally, Joel 3 describes the battle in the Valley of Jehoshaphat, which is Armageddon, occurring after the land of Israel has been divided, and before the Messiah comes.

But then, the Lord shows up in verse 16 and saves them.

Simultaneously, the sun and moon and stars turn dark, which is what Jesus said would occur at the time of His coming to save Israel.

So, it makes sense that the current State of Israel, reborn in 1948 is legitimate, and awaiting its Messiah, to protect it from its enemies.

It will not be reborn a second time, as this was never predicted to occur this way.



Anyone who follows Iran to its final destruction is foolish. It wants to create chaos and destruction in the entire Middle East to bring about its goals.

The Creator God is NOT a god of chaos. Satan is.

Iran has created plans of destruction, based on the writings of human men in the hadiths, not the writings of God.

Iran needs to understand that God does not destroy the righteous, but the wicked.

Iran also needs to understand that God does not need Iran’s help, which wants to force events, to bring the Messiah.

This attitude makes God look dependent and weak, which is an insult to God.

God is more than capable of carrying out His Divine Plan Himself.

Scripture predicts end time events will start with a

white horse (false peace),

a red horse (war),

a black horse (famine) and

a pale green horse (death).

This will affect the entire world.   Who will God protect?

God has a plan of salvation for the Muslim world, as well as everyone else. 

Scripture says that He wishes that NONE should perish.

If they turn their trust toward Jesus, then they have hope, depending on their behavior, and pureness of heart.

I believe that Jesus will reveal Himself to whoever seeks Him in truth.

If Muslims, or anyone else, try to force God into actions contrary to His will, it will not work, and they will suffer.

I pray for the Muslim world. There are many souls now in danger: both Muslim and Non- Muslim.

See also:

Iran in the End Times (Qiamat)

Iran will be defeated

47 Responses to “Persian Ram a Red Horse”

  1. Just musings on my part about “Alghovah” but considering Islam call their God Allah, it appears they are taking the name Allah and putting it with Hovah. Interestingly, Hovah means ruin or disaster.

  2. We do not have to fear about Muslim or any other countries which will gather to destroy Israel ,because the Lord assures us that He Himself will gather them together and will destroy all of those who seek to destroy His Holy Land the place of Jesus birth.

  3. Marianne
    Every time I hear of this it brings me back to psalm 83.
    “They lay crafty plans against your people; they consult together against your treasured ones.
    4.they say, ‘come,let us wipe them out as a nation; let the name of Israel be remembered no more!’
    5. for they conspire with one accord; against you they make a covenent-
    6. The tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites, Moab and the Hagrites,
    7. Gebal and Ammon and Amalek, Philistia with the inhabitants of Tyre;
    8. Asshur has also joined them; they are the strong Arm of the children of Lot.”

    16. “fill their faces with shame, THAT THEY MAY SEEK YOUR NAME, o Lord,”

    Also Isaiah 19:16ff.
    16. In that day, the Egyptians will be like women and tremble with fear before the HAND THAT THE LORD OF HOSTS SHAKES OVER THEM. 17. And the land of Judah will become a terror to the Egyptians. Everyone to whom it is mentioned will fear because of the purpose that the Lord of Hosts has purposed against them. 18. In that day there will be five cities in the land of Egypt that speak the language of Canaan and swear allegiance to the Lord of Hosts. One of these will be called the City of Destruction.” 22.” and the Lord will strike Egypt, striking and healing, and they will return to the Lord, and He will listen to their pleas for mercy and heal them.”
    23. In that day there will be a highway from Egypt to Assyria, and Assyria will come into Egypt, and Egypt into Assyria and the Egyptians will worship with the Assyrians. 24. In that day Israel will be the third with Egypt and Assyria, A BLESSING IN THE MIDST OF THE EARTH.”

    Zech. 10:10 “I will bring them home from the Land of Egypt, and Gather them from Assyria, and I will bring them to the Land of Gilead and to Lebanon. 11B. The pride of Assyria shall be laid low, and the scepter of Egypt shall depart.”

    My conclusion, Many of the powers of the muslim world will Plot to attack Israel, But God will cause confusion amongst the attackers (Much like Jehoshaphats war in II Chron 20) and the lord will use it as a time to Gather The tribes of israel back to Israel. Israel will also take over many of the lands of this first wave of end times battles. Turkey, Iran, Iraq, etc will not be involved in this war. After this war the fifth seal will begin, as Satan will be “furious with Israel” and go after Those “who hold to the testimony of Jesus.
    Note: No antichrist yet. Iran won’t get involved until Gog and Magog war. Though they will send their brothers to slaughter.

    Keep preaching to the Muslims, especially those in Egypt and Assyria(Syria).

  4. According to Daniel the “fierce leader” of the last days will be opposed by the kings of the north and south, and some news from the east worries him.

    So he is not that popular.

    Maybe, and hopefully, there will be an awakening among those of Egypt and Assyria which will help oppose the antichrist.

  5. The Mullas do not think they represent G-d. They think they represent Allah.

    Allah is a purly Arabic word that means the god. At the time Muhammad grew up, the kabba had 360 gods. One of which was the moon god. Muhammad’s family worshiped the moon god, and when Muhammad was strong enough he made everyone worship the god, or die. It has gone on now for about 1400 years. The god is the moon god Sin.

    Allah Akbar means Allah, or the god is greatest of all other gods at the Kabba.

    They worship the god, and it is not the G-d of Moses. Therefore, they are of Lucifer, and will be destroyed.

    There should be a regional war where Hizboallah, Hamas, and Syria get their butts kicked by Israel. That sets up WW111.

  6. Marianne
    Alghovah is probably a reference to the name of God Jehovah, a perversion thereof placing the name of Allah in front. I am not a hebrew or Arabic scholar, but Rev 13:1 “…with ten diadems on its horns and BLASPHEMOUS NAMES ON ITS HEADS…” gives some reference perhaps.

  7. here is the english version

    • I watched the above video. At first I thought the video was made years ago and they were “predicting” sadaam being killed, but evidently it was made a few months ago….

      Despite this, the fact remains that they earnestly believe in The Coming of “their messiah” who is really the Anti-christ. They are planning to destroy Israel and take over Jerusalem.

      WE KNOW who comes to stop this-the TRUE MESSIAH. SOOOOOO if their “messiah” is soon approaching (we need to watch who the flag is passed to by Ayatollah Khamenei-this will be “their last messiah”/our AC), then we KNOW that Jesus Christ/Yeshua is also soon approaching!!!

      To be honest, I kinda feel sorry for them. They seem to genuinely believe that they are defeating evil, when in fact, they are ushering in THE EVIL. When they realize what they have done, this will be more than devastating to say the least.

      AND I thought it was interesting that they too see the feemasons as “evil” just as Christian’s do….hmmmm wonder what role the freemasons are playing in this plot. This is the only ‘common belief’ that Christians and Muslims have-the elite/free masons/EU are evil. ha!

      And notice they refer to “their messiah” as the “rising of the SUN Imamat”

  8. This battle is much bigger than just Israel..Revelation 3-9, 10 says satan’s synagogue will tempt the entire world..
    Armageddon means mountain or high places in Hebrew…The dragon, beast and false prophet gather them into the high places of Baal,, meaning Islam…
    But I am sure Israel will also be part of these great battles..


  10. I received an email out of Israel today, they were praising
    God that he kept them. It seems that the Japanese according
    to the email were going to help Tehran, Salehi and Koro hide
    the proof of what they are really doing.

    As Dru said God will orchestrate things we don’t even know why or how he keeps them in safety as I am certain he does for us also. Those who think they will harm his children are saddly mistaken. let us remember to give him thanks and the Love and prayers from us that he deserves. He neither slumbers nor sleeps.

    I also want to let you know last night I dreamed that I saw a map of the world. I saw a lassoe come out and pull Moscow up off the map, just as if someone does to an animal when they take it against its will. Let us pray for those who trust in the arm of God in Russia; I then saw a light like day light but it was obscured by haze or smoke?

    • Consecration of Russia to The Sacred Heart of Jesus and Mary, per message of Fátima?

      • maybe God is restraining Russia from getting involved at this time. People everywhere need prayer. The Russians need God as well as anyone else. They have no control over what their government does.

        • Call me crazy but I don’t fear Putin. Medvedev is the bad apple of the two. Our family deals with international adoptions, and we have great relations with Russia. I cannot say nor know anything of Catholicism or Christianism because I haven’t traveled there (yet). They are very simple and poor people, and we help orphanages all over Russia with clothes, blankets, furniture, appliances and such. No Mickey Mouse nor anything American culture! Our family’s int’l adoption agcy is Whenever you guys wanna look at cute adopted babies. 😀 Cheer you up!

  11. Things have gone from bad to worse in Iraq. Iran will fill the vacuum just as soon as the Americans leave. Iran wants their oil. Since we lost so many American lives there to protect the Iraqi’s, but they did not appreciate our help (who can blame them) then the one thing we could do is at least help pay for the war by taking as much oil from Iraq as we need to pay for the war. Sorry to say, obama will tuck his tail between his legs and cut and run. A total waste of American life, a completely ruined Iraq, and we get nothing in return.

    • hi JRA

      The problem with Iraq is that heathen rule there, and Iran and Iraq have been at war since before I can remember, and this means going back to my childhood. Ishmael’s arm is against everyone, even his own brethren, and that was predicted long ago by God himself. A tiger cannot change his stripes.

      The fighting was there before we came, and will continue after we leave. We did go some good there, but we should have left long ago.

      But the bible predicted that a coalition of nations would invade “Babylon” and bring it down, and make the king afraid like a woman and hide.

      And this was fulfilled by Sadaam when he hid in that hole.

      The bible also predicted that people would give up on Babylon, leaving it to the creatures of the desert.

      So it must have been in God’s plan that we go, and that will we will leave. It has bought time for Israel, and given it time to build up its strength.

      So, that is a good outcome, but it came with a heavy price of lives. I believe that every soldier that fought, suffered and died there will have his reward in heaven. I pray each night that God will protect our soldiers, and bring them home safely.

      • Hi Marianne
        I have difficulties to understand your statement that it has bought time for Israel to build up its strength. The US has given Egypt half of military support she gave to Israel and now Obama threw Egypt into hands of Muslim Brotherhood.Europe started Libyan war.
        There has been a long time a fight in the ME between Sunnis and Shiits, nothing to do with Israel. Who’s gonna form the caliphate? It’s also the goal of NWO, to get areas united like EU. Iran’s goal is Saudi oil and leadership in the caliphate. These recent revolts are made by purpose from outside. Brotherhood is targeting clearly Egypt and Libya. Saudi already gave up Syria and Lebanon but now they try to get Syria back. Obama’s answer to Syrian revolts was command Israel to give up Golan to support Assad. Jemen is important because it’s controlling the sea route to Suez. My estimate is that Saudi will loose the fight and as soon as Americans are away from Iraq, Iran takes over with the aid of majority of Shiits there. Also Egypt is still question mark. Brotherhood has now better hand but FM recently expressed interest towards Iran. Hamas is not in power in WB because of Israeli control.
        After 1967 war Pentagon determined where the border between Israel and Jordan should be for secure borders. Somewhere inside area A. Ever since Carter the US has tried to force Israel to 1967 border and in my understanding this is the biggest factor why Israel fame is nonexistant in the world. When the world has been hearing decades from US State Department of poor palestinians and that Israel does not belong there we see the result. I see that by purpose US has weakened Israel. Only because US presidents follow instructions from NWO (CFR,also Olmert and Netanyahu members) which tries to get Israel behind 1967 line but strong enough to start WWIII for exmple after massive Arab attack as in Psalm 83 which is in the creation or Israeli (US?) attack to Iran.

        • hi Seppo

          The reason I said Israel was given time to strengthen itself, because the American military is very pro-Israel.

          Israelis soldiers have been trained in American technology that is crucial to them defending themselves.

          They have also had time to build bomb shelters all over Israel to protect its citizens.

          Unlike Arab states, they do not waste money given to it on promoting riots and lining the pockets of fat terrorist leaderships.

          They invest in the best equipment, training, education, technology, security systems,intelligence, warfare strategies, and general infrastructure.

          Israel someday soon will face “Jacob’s trouble,” in which the Israelis will seem defeated anyhow, due to antichrist activities, and international hatred.

          But this time they have been given is also important to prepare for that time, in spiritual strengthening. They know what is coming, and they know god is on their side, and will help them if they are faithful.

          Finally, the news about the jihad…..the shiites and sunnis are having a contest to see which one will produce their Messiah. The Mahdi has to show up before the Christian Jesus too, so the race is on.

      • Marianne, remember that St. Jeanne D’Arc is their Saint. I asked if I could sent to the troops anything to pray or so they can hold on to their faith, but it’s policy they don’t carry anything religious; it endangers their lives if they’re found w/stuff like that.

  12. I just noticed yesterday’s article with a title “Iran and the Final Grand Jihad” with plenty of battle plans

  13. ALGHOVAH… Al means the…alghovah means “the G-hovah” sounds like…i.e. the jehovah.. A satanic play on words to make people think allah is Jehovah

  14. Jeremiah 30:10,11
    “Then fear not, O Jacob my servant, declares the Lord,
    nor be dismayed, O Israel; for behold, I Will save you from far away,
    and your offspring from the land of their captivity.
    Jacob shall return and have quiet and ease, and none shall make him afraid.
    11.For I AM with you to save you, declares the Lord, I will make a full end of all the nations among whom I scattered you,
    but of you, I will not make a full end.
    I will discipline you in just measure, and I will by no means leave you unpunished.”

    Jeremiah 31:2,3
    “Thus says the Lord: ‘The people who survived the sword found GRACE in the Wilderness;
    when Israel sought for rest,
    3. the Lord appeared to him from FAR away. I have LOVED you with an EVERLASTING LOVE;
    Therefore I have continued my FAITHFULLNESS TO YOU.'”

    These are two distinct events talked about by the prophet Jeremiah. The first “rescue” leads to “discipline and regathering” For Israel, The second to Grace and rebuilding (see 31:4). Note there is a time of “rest and ease” between the two. A time of “peace” perhaps. Jeremiah 30:24b “…In the latter days you will understand this.” refering to the Jewish people.

    • “I will make a full end of all the nations among whom I scattered you,”

      I never knew this…thanks Dru 🙂

      I guess that means that America is……well “full end”

  15. At this point in time Marianne, the whole world including Israel is under a curse due to the nations not doing the will of God. Read Malachi 3.

    Some say that the White Horse mentioned in Rev 19 is Jesus Christ. However, the one known as Christ does not come until after New Jerusalem is built. In Rev 22 it clearly says, ‘Behold I am coming soon’ that means he does not arrive before then. Also New Jerusalem will not be built in Israel. Most Christian scholars have completely misunderstood the texts.

    Anyhow watch the earthquakes around Greece because the prophecies predict that Judah will be flooded and that would mean Gaza as well.

  16. Now back to the White Horse in Rev 19, one can find the White Horse in many cultures. In Judaism it is the ACHARIT, the last. To the Hindu’s it is the Lord KALKI. The horse is called FAITHFUL and TRUE because Christ predicted that a FAITHFUL servant would come to feed his true followers. The horse is called TRUE because the person is the one that is the TRUE prophet that God promised to Moses and that is why Malachi mentions the promise made at Horeb. Christ also stated that the Spirit of Truth, the Paraclete would come to give glory to his REAL teachings, that is another reason why the horse is called TRUE. What does the horse represent? The horse is the person that God rides, the horse also represents freedom.

    As he said ‘I tell you TRULY’.

    • The horse was never named.

      Revelation 19:11-21
      The Rider on the White Horse

      11 I saw k heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, WHOSE RIDER is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself.

      The rider = Jesus/Yeshua

  17. So on that basis how can the White Horse = false peace? It can’t.

    • The other “white horse” is in Revelations 6

      The Revelation
      of St. John the Divine

      The Seals
      1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
      2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: Zech. 1.8 ; 6.3 and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

      According to the reference given above, in Zechariah 1, the angel explains who the riders are on the horses in the book of Zechariah…”These are they whom the LORD hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth.”


      Not sure if the riders on the horses in Revelations 6 are also the riders on the horses in Zechariah 1

  18. Now as far as Japan is concerned that as fulfilled another biblical prophecy.

    Proverb 31

  19. I glanced through your article and since you seem concerned with Bible Truth. I will point out one that should be obvious. You have an image of Christ on your article which is typical of images of Christ. However, the bible states that he would not be desired for his beauty. Some short years after Christ’s death the Apostle Paul taught that even nature itself teaches that it’s a shame for a man to have long hair. Yet recurring images of Jesus Christ as a beautiful man with long hair seem to be the norm. If you can’t get minor things right how can you expect to get bible prophecy right which comes NOT just because of much study but by the Spirit of Truth.


    • Sounds like a RELIGIOUS spirit to me!

      I like the picture. And no I don’t think this is a true pic of Jesus, AND I don’t think the fact that he has long hair has anything to do with “the price of tea in china”! ha!

      Called by Jesus Christ,

      You have a very critical spirit and should be aware of this!

    • hi Called by Jesus

      Well, that is the best picture I could come up with, since he did not leave a picture behind of himself. I wanted something peaceful and pleasant looking.

      Since they did not have barber shops back then, it is hard to define what “long” and “short” meant in terms of hair at that time. Today, it is easier.

  20. Oh the picture of the dove doesnt look like a real one either. We have some that fly around the steel mill I work at. Ok Im being silly.

    We wanted a God with a face and hands and the Father supplied us with his Son. We all want to get a look at Him, and soon we will get our chance.

  21. Joke:

    A dad told his teenage son that he had to cut his hair before he would buy him a car. Teenage son replied “but dad, Jesus had long hair”. The dad replied “yes he did, and he WALKED everywhere he went”! Ha!

  22. I suppose creating God in an image pleasing to us is pretty common today.
    Some use statues to help them worship, others uses images – I worship God in Spirit and in Truth.
    No statues or false images are needed.
    As easily as false images of Christ are created to comfort those who use them so is a false image
    of the Word of God
    Have you ever heard of someone who has died being preached into hell?
    Does that mean that everyone that dies is going to heaven?
    False images of comfort do not justify a distortion of the Word of God.
    Truth is hardly accepted and falsehood is easily justified.
    Its funny that people can see End-Times and End-Time prophecy but can’t see where the
    scripture said the last days would be like the days of Noah – where 8 souls were saved as the world
    denied Noah’s teaching and stayed happily in darkness until the rain began to fall.
    The whole world isn’t saved and the book of Revelation is fulfilled in: The Devil Would Deceive the Nations: Sure the Muslims are false
    but what about false Christianity?


    • HI Brooks

      The purpose of the images on this page are to

      1. add a visual image to the concept discussed.

      2. Help divide one section from another.

      They are not intended to be objects of worship….we worship the person of Jesus, not a picture.

    • “Have you ever heard of someone who has died being preached into hell?”

      *what are you talking about?

      “Does that mean that everyone that dies is going to heaven?”

      *only those redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ/Yeshua go to heaven when they die

      “False images of comfort do not justify a distortion of the Word of God.”

      *are you JUDGING that Marianne, a spirit filled Christian, who also worships in Spirit and IN TRUTH, as well as intercedes on behalf of MANY has “distorted the Word of G-d”? I disagree!!

      “The whole world isn’t saved and the book of Revelation is fulfilled in: The Devil Would Deceive the Nations: Sure the Muslims are false
      but what about false Christianity?”

      *are you saying the entire world must be saved before Jesus Returns (where is that in the scriptures?)

      *false christianity? again, are you JUDGING a spirit filled Christian who worships in spirit and IN TRUTH?

      With your statements above I highly question your credibility and statement as a Christian! You are screaming “judgement” and “critical spirit”…in case you were unaware!

      Why don’t you read through the rest of Marianne’s blog site before JUDGING and Criticizing without lack of knowledge/without understanding.

  23. Brooks,

    I first want to say I pray that these words will not harm you or discourage you as a Sister in the Lord. I pray that they will instead open your eyes and that this writing be
    received in a Godly manner.

    I take it since you say called by Jesus Christ that the statement you made means something to you?I doubt that you would want to offend the Lord, and I think you surely since you say called by Jesus want to follow his teachings in the New Testament, Right?

    I further want to have a good Christian attitude of a sister toward you. So then what I have to say let it be in a Godly way. Let this information be taken in love. If we love the Lord then all of the Bible should mean something to you.

    Here are a few versus I would like you to read, I feel they will speak to you:

    Galatians 5:22
    But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

    Romans 13:13
    Let us behave decently, as in the daytime, not in orgies and drunkenness, not in sexual
    Immorality and debauchery, not in dissension and jealousy.

    I Corinthians 6:09
    Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes
    nor homosexual offenders.

    I Corinthians 6:10
    nor thieves nor the greed nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

    II Corinthians 6:06
    By pureness, by knowledge, by longsuffering, by kindness, by the Holy Ghost, by love unfeigned,

    Here is the things expected of Gods’ children:

    I John 3:14
    We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brothers. He that Loves not his brother stays in death.

    Ephesians 4:31
    Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.

    Now I am not certain of what you are accusing Marianne of but I am willing to Plead her case with you. You see the person you are attacking has Arthritis and is a person I believe who truly loves the Lord.

    The Bible says:

    I Chronicles 16:22
    (Saying), Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

    She spends many hours preparing study information for Brothers and Sisters. Marianne is a ministering person for God. This is like a church to many, even though it is on the Internet. Many if they didn’t have this encouragement, place to enact with others of Gods’ children, they would have no interaction with any Brothers or Sisters in Christ. I am certain you are unaware of this fact.

    She prepares Bible studies that make Brothers and Sisters in God to think. She has a debilitating disease of Arthritis. If she hasn’t prepared a new lesson or some form Of challenge I seen people drop her an email saying this is there only interaction with the word and Gods’ children.

    So when you inter a space and let your words fly against another and care not about the damage you are causing, should you think again? I say it can’t be so, either you don’t know how accusing your words are or you have no knowledge of how words can come across in email type scenarios, which this is. No one can see your face; no one can worship with you to see your hands held up to Heaven, no one could witness to your speaking in tongues.
    But people can since what appears to be a form of attack?

    It is a wonderful place to study the word of God, to look at where we are in timeProphetically.

    Now if you are stating that the photo of God becomes an idol. Then are these not the words to judge your own judgment with. The word clearly states that the LORD doesn’t want us serving with our time, our minds, our money or anything. We are to put nothing before our God. What was putting before him Jesus Christ is God. Is anyone bowing down to the photo? No we know it isn’t God. Is it the God of some strangers and not
    the true living God? NO, Please identify to me and every other person who doesn’t maybe know how to confront this situation in a Godly manner what you are saying.

    Leviticus 26:1
    “’Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

    Exodus 20:4
    “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

    Exodus 23:24

    Do not bow down before their gods or worship them or follow their practices. You must demolish them and break their sacred stones to pieces.

    Deuteronomy 5:8
    “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

    Deuteronomy 16:22
    and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the LORD your God hates.

    Deuteronomy 27:15
    “Cursed is the man who carves an image or casts an idol- -a thing detestable to the LORD, the work of the craftsman’s hands- – and sets it up in secret.” Then all the people shall say, “Amen!”

    So I pray to the Lord that you will read and let your heart hear the way it came across. Painful, hurting and hard even for the other members who come to this site to hear with
    out speaking. According to the word all things are to be done Godly and with wisdom.

    I hope after reviewing this that you will consider your words and apologize to Marianne I know God will bless you for doing the right thing. Don’t feel bad if it was just the way
    Your words came across but wasn’t where your heart was or is.

    As we are all required to follow the word:

    James 4:11
    Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.

    Romans 14:13
    Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother’s way.

    I pray that the Lord will bless you and that we will see you joining in the study of the Lords word and things going on in the times we are in prophetically.


  24. Well said Pattie! 🙂

  25. I normally don’t bother with blogs as most people are going to believe what they want and no one is going to change their mind. I found this to be true even when they are clearly and obviously wrong – and even when I prove it by reading word-for-word out of the Bible. I prefer to stay with what the book says and check my opinion at the door. I’m sure there is plenty of the Love of Jesus here so that you can all uplift and confirm one another – I have been confirmed by the Spirit of Truth and don’t need your confirmation. I won’t trouble you or you musings anymore but would appreciate if if you pull me off your e-mail list as I Never asked to be on it in the first place. I have much to say in the spirit of truth but this is not the place for me to say it – that place is where it may do some good.


    • Hi Brooks,

      I took you off the email list as you requested. Sorry you seemed to have a hard time. I was not offended by what you said.

      If you ever want to get put back on the email list, let me know.

      Be blessed.


  26. Marianne
    “My heart recoils within me, my compassion grows warm and tender. 9. I will not execute my burning anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim; for I am God and not a man, The Holy one in your midst, and I will not come in wrath. 10. They shall go after the LORD; He will roar like a lion; when he roars, his children shall come trembling from the west; 11. they shall come trembling like birds from EGYPT, and like doves from the land of ASSYRIA, and I will return them to their homes, declares the LORD.” Hosea 11:8b-11

    Joel 3:11-12 “Hasten and come all you surrounding nations, and gather yourselves there. Bring DOWN your warriors O LORD. 12. Let the nations stir themselves up and come up to the Valley of JEHOSHAPHAT; for there I will sit to judge all the SURROUNDING NATIONS.”

    Marianne, Earlier in chapter 3 of Joel he talks of gathering all the nations in the valley of Jehoshaphat, but in these verses in Joel he only talks of the surrounding nations Gathering there to be judged. To me these seem like two different events, what are your opinions on this? I put the Hosea quote in to show the first war will result in a regathering of the lost tribes of Israel out of Egypt and Assyria, the result of this first war.
    Also, My understanding from the original battle of Jehoshoaphat (2 Chron. 20) occurred somewhere between the dead sea and Jerusalem, while many scholars say it refers to Megido (Armageddon), which is in northern Israel. Do you have any thoughts on this? Perhaps they are two different battles separated by time?

    Psalm 23 also seems prophetic when we begin looking at valleys.!

    • hi dru

      It seems that the Hosea event precedes the Joel event. The surrounding nations have no one to attack, if the Jews are not there yet. Unless it is referring to the other half of the Jews still living in the west in America.


      Joe 3:2 I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and [for] my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.

      Joe 3:14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD [is] near in the valley of decision.

      Joe 3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. (THis is the 6th seal, which Jesus says in MAtt 24 he will come for his saints) and there will be an earthquake at this time)

      Joe 3:16 The LORD also shall roar out of Zion, and utter his voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD [will be] the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of Israel.

      THE battle in the valley of Jehosophat occurs AFTER the complete dividing of the land….(which has started but is not complete yet, since the Palestinians want more land, and plans to to finish this soon).

      This would be the same battle as described in Zech 14, where the Lord shows up and splits the Mount of Olives.

      Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.

      Zec 14:3 ¶ Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.

      Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which [is] before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, [and there shall be] a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

      Revelation describes the battle of Armageddon , which occurs after the 6th vial, which is way after the 6th seal (Joel + Zech)

      16:12 ¶ And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.

      Rev 16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs [come] out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

      Rev 16:16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

      Rev 16:17 ¶ And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

      Rev 16:18 And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, [and] so great.

      Rev 16:19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

      Rev 16:20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.

      Rev 16:21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, [every stone] about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

      It does not mention the Lord showing up here, only that the wicked are destroyed.


      1. Hosea describes the return without a battle, and seems to precede the end time battles.

      2. Joel and Zechariah are describing a battle that precedes the Lord coming for his saints.

      3. Revelation (Armageddon) is describing the punishment of the wicked during the time of wrath….this is later on, after the all saints are removed, including the saved Jews.

      • Marianne
        So your saying there are three distinct events? perhaps that is where my confusion is coming from. would you say the Hosea event has already occurred (1948) or is yet to occur? I also posted earlier on the two different events in Jeremiah 30,31, the first leading to regathering, the second leading to redemption, would you say that the first one there is the same as Hosea? What about all the talk among Prophetic pundits of the 12 tribes coming back to Israel? Also, revalation talks about the dragon turning his attention away from Israel and beginning to attack the saints (Christians) after his attack on Israel is swallowed up (rev 12 I believe). My interpretation of revalation places this event btwn 4th/5th seal. What I guess I am asking is what events in the OT and specifically in the prophecies directed toward Israel refer to the “swallowing up” of satan’s attack. Could this be 67 or 73 wars?
        I know there are a lot of questions in there, but I am just trying to get a timeline of Revalation to meet with the timeline of OT prophecy and in particular Israel in prophecy. You were talking about 2015 being the date on another page, I’m thinking 2018/2019 for end of tribulation with 2015 being roughly mid trib?

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