Jesus, the Hallel, and the 4 day gap in prophecy

2000 years ago, Jesus told the unbelieving religious leaders what season and holiday he would return, by mentioning the words from a special prayer. How does the Hallel fit into, and shape, Messianic prophecy?

Traditional predictions about Jesus fulfilling all the Feasts

Spring: First Coming

Pesach – Crucifixion

Omer – Resurrection

Shavuot – Holy Spirit

Fall: Second Coming

Trumpets – Tribulation (trouble + wrath= 7 years total)

Atonement – Second Coming

Tishri 11-14 – 4 day gap with nothing going on (3 ½ days would take up 4 calendar days)

Tabernacles – Millennium

There are some theories that say Jesus will return on Rosh Hashannah or Yom Kippur. There is no basis for that at all. This is what I see:

Fall: Second Coming – Marianne’s view

There is a tribulation phase and a wrath phase. Each represents about 3 ½ years, or the tribulation phase is “10 days,” while the wrath is 7 years. Jesus returns between the 2 phases.

Trumpets – “Tribulation of 10 days”

Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

This means either:

(a) “10 days of danger,” culminating a prior 3 1/2 years of “trouble, temptation”

(b) a 10 year period of tribulation, if a day = a year, that culminates in a final, more intense 3 ½ years.

(c ) “10 days of danger,” which will then be followed by a 7 year period of wrath.

Christ returns for saints in the air, at the last trumpet (the shofar sounds multiple times, at the beginning and end of the holiday), and takes them off the earth.

***The predicted timing of the last trumpet:

Mat 24:29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

****Rev 6:12 Identifies this (sun and moon) as the 6th seal being opened. This means the “tribulation phase” is over by the 6th seal. The 7th seal is a waiting period of ½ hour (Rev 8:1).

Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Mat 24:31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

So, the sequence here is a tribulation phase of 10 days (not the traditional 7 year definition), Jesus coming, great trumpet sound, saints end up in the clouds.

Notice, Jesus does not say he is coming back to earth at this time, only that he gathers the saints from the position he is in – in the clouds.

So this means there is more to come. What is coming next is the time of wrath (Rev 6:17). He is removing the believers out of the way so they do not get hurt.

Atonement – Jewish faithful are sealed, but not taken, since they are not saved yet. They are to be protected by the sealing. This is necessary also before the wrath starts. (Rev 7:3)

By Rev 7:14, the tribulation phase is over, the Christian believers are gone, and the Jewish faithful are sealed. The time of wrath is to begin.

The 7th seal is then opened. There is silence for about a half an hour, and heavenly hosts remain standing. This is to signify the first ½ day of the next 4 days. The next 3 ½ days is the wrath.

½ + 3 ½ = 4 days.

Tishri 11-14 – 4 day gap with LOTS going on (3 ½ days would take up 4 calendar days) This is the time of wrath.

It is interesting that a typical Presidential administration is 4 years, although this might be totally irrelevant.

Tabernacles – Erev (evening before, on the calendar) Sukkot. This would occur on the evening of the 4th day, or the end of the 3 1/2. Jesus returns for faithful Jews, and saves all of Israel. This definitely gives them something to celebrate. Millennium starts.

Why I think this (application of Jewish thought and interpretation of their own feasts):

Trumpets (Rosh Hashannah) –10 days of Awe- Time of repentance and judgment. Gates to heaven are open at this time, for inscribing and sealing the faithful in the book of life. It is our “last chance” to get ourselves right before the heavenly Book is closed for another year.

Rev 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast [some] of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

What I think here, is that there will be a time of temptation/trouble, mentioned in

Rev 3:10 Because thou [church of Philadelphia] hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

It does not say wrath here, just temptation. So it is a time of testing, to see if we pass the final test of our faith.

Atonement (Yom Kippur) – Book of Life is closed at sundown when the Gates of Heaven are closed for another year. This is when Jews say the faithful are sealed in the Book of Life. The Christians are already sealed with the Holy Spirit, so they are taken. The Jews will be preserved during the wrath because they have this Atonement seal.

Recall the sealing of the 144,000. This occurs on Yom Kippur, as the “gates close” at the end of the day.

If we meet in the air, then we are not meeting on earth. This means there is more to come

Tishri 11-14 period of Wrath starts against unbelievers. The Jews go into hiding as much as possible. (Rev 12)

Tabernacles (Sukkot)– 8 days- Jews fulfill the Hallel prophecy during this time, Jesus comes for Jews who finally believe, ends battle of Armageddon, Millennium. Bible says Jesus comes in the evening.

Zec 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, [that] at evening time it shall be light.

Why Messiah would come for the Jews at Sukkot, and not Trumpets, or Yom Kippur

Recall, Jesus said he would come for the believers immediately after the tribulation. However, one of Christ’s admonishments to the unbelieving religious leaders of his day was:

Mat 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed [is] he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

***This is part of a prayer called the Hallel, and is only recited at certain times.

The blessing in Matt 23 – found in the Hallel – is ONLY recited during Sukkot during the 3 Fall Feasts.

Hallel reinforces the return of Jesus to the remaining Jews on the Feast of Tabernacles.

A few verses later, the following discussion occurred about the Master’s return.

Mat 24:2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.

Mat 24:3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Although they were different discussions, they were linked. Jesus was telling the unbelievers when to expect him back, and then the believers what to expect before He returned in the next chapter. Jesus would have to come at different times as each was ready.

What is the Hallel?

Hallel (Hebrew: הלל‎, “Praise”) is a Jewish prayer—a verbatim recitation from Psalms 113-118, which is used for praise and thanksgiving that is recited by observant Jews on Jewish holidays. Hallel consists of six Psalms (113-118), which are said as a unit, on joyous occasions.

These occasions include the following:

The three pilgrim festivals:

Passover, spring

Shavuot, spring,

and Sukkot, fall.

and Hanukkah and Rosh Chodesh (beginnings of the new month). Many Jewish communities, especially those that identify with religious Zionism, recite Hallel on Yom Ha’atzma’ut (Israeli Independence Day). Some also recite it on Yom Yerushalayim (commemorating the re-unification of Jerusalem in 1967).

On Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur, Hallel is not said at all, because as the Talmud states (Arachin 10b): “Is it seemly for the king to be sitting on His Throne of Judgment, with the Books of Life and Death open before Him, and for the people to sing joyful praises to Him?” Since Rosh Hashanah is the day of Judgment, every person should be filled with fear and awe at his impending judgment. He should be careful to avoid anything that might bring him to levity or that might distract him from the gravity of this day.

Jesus (Yeshua) fulfilled the major Feasts with his life.

Born the end of September around 3BC, it is believed that he was born during the fall feasts of the Lord, possibly Sukkot, the feast of Tabernacles, as it celebrates God dwelling with man.

Jesus then went onto to fulfill the Feast of Passover, First fruits (Resurrection) and Shavuot (Pentecost). Hallel is prayed.

The next Feast in line would be Sukkot again. Hallel is prayed. Jesus would return as they are reciting the Hallel.

Jesus will finalize the redemption on what would be considered his real birthday, Sukkot.

Simchat Torah fulfilled.

Once Sukkot is finished, a special holiday is celebrated in which the Jews “Dance with the Torah.” The Torah is the Word of God.

Won’t it be great for them, to finally dance with the real Word of God, when He arrives as their Messiah?

Blessed [is] he that comes in the name of the Lord !!!!!


14 Responses to “Jesus, the Hallel, and the 4 day gap in prophecy”

  1. […] the words from a special prayer. How does the Hallel fit into, and shape, Messianic prophecy? Click here for […]

  2. Wow! You sound like our Rabbi! Thank you so much for sharing all your insights with other Christians! Like my husband says, we as if we are neither fish nor fowl. Christians think we are trying to judiaze them and Jews think were are no longer Jews. Praise G-d that to those who know Him and love Him, we are one in Messiah!

    as you said…Baruch haba B’Shem Adonai!

    trish

  3. Shalom Trish 🙂

    Henay mah tov ,veh mah nahyim, shevet ahchim gam yachad!

    simchas and nachas
    marianne

  4. Your Hebrew is good! It’s hard to get a consensus when you transliterate, where did you learn ?? ….I think you’re really Jewish !!

  5. Shalom Trish!

    I am not really that used to transliteration. I wing it as I go. I am used to the actual Hebrew. I hang out a lot at the local Chabad house, attend shul, and I have danced Israeli for 5 years. That is an older favorite song for the “elderly set” like me.

    blessings
    marianne

  6. The problem with this scienario is Rev 1: 9-20 and John who is in Heaven, sees 7 golden lampstands before the throne of God and asks the Angel what they are? The Angel answers, these are the churches, which makes the saved already in Heaven standing before the Throne of God! I see Rev 2:10 as the Apostate Church suffering 10 days then redemption comes!

    • hi phil

      Do you really think the book of Revelation is written in chronological order? The beast does not show up until chapter 13, when the tribulation is over. Just a thought.

  7. I knew it! I knew He would save us! As a mother wants her children to be safe so does our Messiah! I am excited now more than afraid and truly just can’t wait to meet him! Waiting breathlessly!!! 🙂

  8. I am also fascinated with this subject, since I anxiously await seeing the face of my Savior. I believe he will fulfill all prophecy and come on the first feast of fall around the last week in September to the first week in October, depending on the year. I fully expect it to be somewhere between 2011 and 2017, but how awesome if it were this year! I love fall, it’s my favorite season. What better time to meet the Lord!

    • hi Tammy

      I agree. I also love the fall….my birthday…and it would be a great birthday present to leave and go to heaven. I was born around the feast times.

  9. Greeting’s in the name of Jesus Christ Brother,

    I am samuel raja from India.i am doing full time ministry with out any denomination.I had finished M Div.I want second coming bible studies book or DVD. I ex painting our Jesus Christ will come 2015?it is correct brother.what’s ur thoughts.
    .kindly give more details about that details.

    God bless u

    Rev.P.SAMUEL RAJA,
    U 127 MURUGAN COMPLEX
    KOVAIPUDUR,
    COIMBATORE,
    TAMIL NADU
    INDIA
    PIN CODE 641042,
    samraja777@gmaiom

  10. P. Samuel Raja;
    That is so cool you live in India and want to study the Bible. I don’t believe in date setting but I do believe we are getting closer every day. I believe it will happen in my lifetime.

    I don’t think you will find any contradiction of their teaching with Marianne’s. I just have disagreement with timing, that’s all.

    The Book of Revelation has a special blessing for anyone who reads it.

    Revelation 22:7
    Behold I am coming quicly! Blessed is he who keeps the WORDS OF THE PROPHECY OF THIS BOOK.

    There are two excellent teachers you can listen to on the internet for free and won’t have to spend any money.

    J. Vernon McGee has a international radio program in over 200 languages. You might find it in your native language. It’s in English too.

    Jon Courson has an excellent Old and New Testament Commentary.

    http://www.joncourson.com/teaching/teachings.asp?book=revelation

    http://www.thruthebible.org/site/c.irLMKXPGLsF/b.4104203/k.79AD/International_Ministry.htm

    http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/thru-the-bible-with-j-vernon-mcgee/listen/

    Chuck Missler:Revelation

    http://www.khouse.org/6640_media_serve.php?show_id=480&show_day=monday
    http://www.khouse.org/6640/CD005-1/

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