Stone of Abel

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A clue to the near location of Eden, after Adam and Eve were expelled?

Stones were often used to mark territories of individuals, or groups.

 

1Sa 6:18 And the golden mice, [according to] the number of all the cities of the Philistines [belonging] to the five lords, [both] of fenced cities, and of country villages, even unto the great [stone of] Abel, whereon they set down the ark of the LORD: [which stone remaineth] unto this day in the field of Joshua, of Beth Shemesh.

While the Garden of Eden was “sealed” and so we debate its location, we can assume, since Adam and Eve were on foot, that they did not stray far from the entrance of the Garden.

Also, a location where Abel was still alive would be a clue to their new home after the expulsion.

There is a place in Israel called Beth Shemesh ( House of the Sun, or Sun Temple).

On a modern map it is south of Jerusalem.

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There is a place in the outskirts of Jerusalem named Adam.

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There is also an ancient map which locates “ABEL” near the sea of Galilee.

Green marks the ABEL locations and red marks Beth Shemesh, Notice they are not far apart:

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So, it is possible that the “Stone of Abel,” son of Adam and Eve, is a marker for where he grew up?

If so, then maybe the location of the original Garden of Eden is nearby.

Other thoughts on the Garden of Eden:

Garden of Eden and the Trees of Lebanon

The Garden of Eden and the Tioran Land Drift Theory


32 Responses to “Stone of Abel”

  1. The Bible speaks of a land that is as the Garden of Eden before the great army that cause men to become desolate.. Joel 2-3..
    This chapter in Joel is about the end time army that causes Christians to become desolate when they fall away from god and embrace Islam and Koran…The Koran is the abomination that causes desolation. of Matthew 24-14,15…It is also the roll-book that is a curse of Zechariah 5-1,3…CURSE is spelled ALAH in this verse..

    Joel 2-4..The appearance of them [is] as the appearance of horses; and as horsemen, so shall they run……… This is the great army of the apollyon of revelation 9-7 and chapter..
    We are witness of these events now… Christians are as the garden of Eden before sin but after their fall to the Islam god they become desolate of God almighty….
    This garden of Eden is of the spiritual nature of man, not about location..as is also Isaiah 51-3..

    To me personally the garden of God is whereever Jesus is…

    • 1313truth You said – This garden of Eden is of the spiritual nature of man, not about location..as is also Isaiah 51-3..

      To me personally the garden of God is whereever Jesus is…

      Amen brother Im one of the few that believe that as well. Its in the Heart of man. Not a geographical location. Same with Heaven and Hell. Its a Condition of the heart of man and his Mind and will. There is a Heaven we will go to after we die – Its back into God – we came from God and go back to God just like Jesus did. Amen.
      Wherever God dwells becomes a heavenly condition for the Man and Woman. But wherever Satan dwells becomes a wicked, and evil man or woman as was Cain but not Abel. One had a heart for God – Love – and Cain had a heart for empires, and rulership and would do anything to get that power and become as gods. Every great war that mankind has fought even unto this day came from the Wicked one.

      I JOHN 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother’s righteous.
      I JOHN 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
      I JOHN 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Shalom and Peace

  2. God said He declared the end from the beginning….All I have said is in Scripture
    I think the two trees in the garden are comparable to Satan’s gospel of Koran and Christ’s Gospel…Both the trees are defined as wisdom….One is God’s wisdom and the other is Satan’s version of god’s wisdom..Likewise with the two Gospels today…The gospel of Christ causes men to be reborn in the likeness and image of god and gives him eternal life as would also the tree of life…..The Koran gospel brings death and causes men to become desolate of god and remade in the image of its author Satan, as did also the tree of knowledge of good and evil… Cain was of the first example of a man in the likeness and image of Satan..He was a liar and a killer…

    I think the Genesis story really happened but I think also it is being repeated for judgment and for the removal of the tares from Christ’s kingdom…

    Paul did warn us in 2 Corinthians 11-3,4,14 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled EVE through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. ..For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or [if] ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with [him]. …And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

  3. I have heard that it is somewhere in Mangolia in fact when i was young i saw this film about a couple of man i believe they were pilots who’s plain crashed in the alps where the snow hardly ever melts . in this movie they were rescued by the people who lived in Paradise .there was this old man who claim to be over 2 thousand years old yet he looked like he was 65 and a women who was a thousand and looked as if she was 20 .but the man did not wanted to stay and so one of them fail in love with this young thousand years old and ask if she wanted to go with him .now the one in charge warned that if she would leave paradise she would go back to her original age .she kept on lying to her man but by the time she got out the door that let them out she returned to her real age and never left the site .She died instantly as her body decade right in front of her man ,The Pilot found his way back to civilization and of course told everyone about what had happen many expeditions were made at the time .but they could never find the location nor the entrance to paradise.

    • That sounds a lot like the movie “Lost Horizon (1937)” starring Ronald Coleman. It is about the mythical land of Shangri La.
      Never guessed it was based on a true story…
      🙂

    • How do we as a people know what bible is truth .. the Christian bible was rewritten by at least 3 white kings… and was written in their own version… in the end of revelations it is written.. not any person should change not one word of the holy scriptures.. amen when I was a child the bible my grandparents read to me was different… it wasn’t the king James version because that’s just what that is it’s his version of gods word…

      • zeke

        All bible should say and mean the same thing, no matter what words are used.

        one version will say “thee” and the other version will say “you”…so there really is no difference

        one passage will say “garment” and another will say “clothing”.. still the same meaning

        I have not read all versions to compare, but use the king james version to see what the meaning is, and the other bible should mean the same thing

        so they all should be “the truth”

        I use the new king james version.

        the bible was written by jews (prophets and kings) over 2000 years ago, and as far back as 4000 years ago, not modern man, of all races and countries, who just translated it.

  4. I recently saw a show on the History Channel about the Garden of Eden and here it is in a nutshell:
    A researcher decided to use satellite photos to look for the convergence of the 4 rivers mentioned in the bible that were supposed to meet in the Garden of Eden. Two of these, the Tigris and the Euphrates, are still around but the other two have apparently dried up.
    So he looked for “fossil streambeds” that may have reached the Tigris and Euphrates rivers at one time in the past. He concluded that this confluence was located SE of Iraq, now flooded by the rise of sea level.
    The location makes sense since it is very close to where scientists consider the “Cradle of Civilization” to have been located. But the truth is, there is no way to ever be sure since there would not be any relics to indicate that anyone ever lived there, let alone specifically Adam and Eve. So any investigation is surely an exercise in futility.

    • That may be true about Iraq, but the logic is wrong.

      The Tigris and Euphrates flows DOWN from the mountains of Turkey.

      Also, these rivers may be just so named after the original ones, once Noah’s flood occurred, and the landscape with different.

  5. Peace!

    Can I copy that picture of Stone of Abel. It certainly looks like a well or the place where they store crops. I think you must have heard Mr. Ron Wyatt’s work and how he found Golgatha. And this picture have got like cross above it. Like four face kerubs.

    There is a mercy seat BELOW the mount Golgotha. But this picture shows me that we can go deeper. BELOW the mercy seat there may be storing place for the purifying water (Hezekiel) or storing place for wheat and other crops.

    This picture is so full of symbols and ideas all kind that I fell in love with it.

    Peace!

  6. Adam wasn´t satisfied with how Eve looked like so God created a new Girl to Adam her name is Lillit? What happened with her? Maybe Eve had the children and Lillit was his lover?
    The reason why we men are chasing women is because we wants to have our rib back.

  7. All you need to do to open your eyes is to read the book:” Slave Species of God” by Michael Tellinger. Just google “Zulu Planet” or “Michael tellinger”. Really an amazing history book, but will also strengthen your religious belief.

    • derick

      I looked at the sites. It may seem that some “people” lived there, but there is no proof that they were humans. the bible records that fallen angels were here before man was created.

      • That is not a very clever reply.. Read the book!! You may discover who the real Satan is. I beg you, get educated so that you can avoid being mislead. Many people understand the Bible the way they PREFER and not what is being said. You only get educated by reading “fearlessly”. If the Holy Spirit lives within you, you will not get derailed. I get the impression that you have not read every single word in the Bible. The Creator gave you a brain to discern.

        • derick

          I have read the bible countless times, and I read it every day.

          The fallen angels were here first, when man appeared, they produced hybrids, nephillim, with human women.

          I do not consider the nephillim human.

          They are a different species.

          • You still have not read the book. It has little to do with religion and everything with history. You can buy it online from Zulu Planet for less than $10 US. Many people do not understand the prophecies of the Bible because they don’t know history. They expect prophetic happenings in the future of things that already happened long, long ago. A good Bible concordance or Bible encyclopaedia will be helpful. Please remember that millions of Dollars/Pounds etc have been spent during the ages by academics studying the Bible and its history.

      • Not true, God saw everything was good by the seventh day (angels included), Satan and the other angels fell after the seventh day but before Chapter 3 of Genesis. Mankinds fall didn’t happen exactly after creation.

        • jonathan

          you would have to prove that. there is no account of angels being created during the 7 days, or falling after 7 day creation
          .

          and mankind could only fall after it was created on the 6th day

          • When i said exactly, i meant instantly after creation. Gen 2:1 “THUS THE heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.” There are three known heavens, air (host are birds and any other flying creatures Gen 1:20), space (stars, planets, Sun, Moon… Gen 1:14-18) and heaven (God/holy trinity and angels). Angels had to be created from the days 3-6: Day 3 because the earth, as an object excluding plants and animals, was created and day 6 because that was the last day anything was created. Day 3 is importanted because Satan, or Lucifer, and the other angels were cast to the ground (earth) in Ezekiel 28: 12 . . . and Isaiah 14: 12 . . .. Even though these were said to kings, they are representing Satan’s fall. Isaiah say he “shalt be brought down to hell”, but not that he was cast to hell, hell is where he will be punished because hell was built for him.”Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:”
            Matthew:25:41

  8. Marianne

    I don´t understand what you mean. Men introduced sin in this world, wars, slavery, nuclear weapons, Islam, Buddism, protestantism etc, Donkeys having sex with women in movies, Homo sexuals, poverty,drugs etc.
    We have a brain??????????

  9. Your Spirit was here before a man was ever made out of dust. At everybirth there is a little angel = spirit ready to move in that little flesh home. It was Gods life. He is Eternal = no beginning and no end. The Bible says that “we were in Christ before the foundation of the World Eternal beings.
    Job 38 – When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? = 2 kinds of gods of men. The Morning Stars – then there is the sons of God – Jesus was the Morning star – the others were sons of God to begin with but sold out for the tree of Death = The tree of Carnal Knowledge desire – Adam and Jesus were both called a Morning star – Abel was a morning star. He knew he was a fallen son and repented and gave a Blood sacrifice. but Cain was a fallen son of god and gave a a sacrifice also but is was not excepted. Plants do not have blood in them. It was the Blood that was tainted with sin that caused the fall. This is why God HAD to become the 2nd. Adam with the Royal Blood of GOD in His veins to cleanse us from all sin by HIS BLOOD. Its every mans choice today. What tree are you eating from. Adam like Father Abraham birthed 2 seeds. One Rightous but one Wicked. Jesus said in the parable – He sowed seed – but then satan came behind him and sowed seed as well. Produced two kinds of believers. A Real Believer and a Make believer – then the unbeliever the world – 3 is perfection. You would never know what light is unless you seen the darkness as well. Shalom

  10. the garden of eden is in ETHIOPIA,i may have no much proof and convincing info but it was in ethiopia

  11. In the beginning all land of earth was joined together. The Garden of Eden was located in present day Missouri USA. After a long time man sinned and God parted the land thus we have continents. Thus many nations were made. When we leave our body(death), God will reveal many things to us. Science is man’s doing,God works different and his goal is to bring to pass the immortally and eternal life of man.

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